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Samhain Stories: The History Of Halloween · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  A hocus pocus. Lack of focus.
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  A podcast that mixes neuro divergent, shy talk and a host
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  of topics open a big metaphorical cauldron.
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  Topics such as witchcraft, paranormal happenings, true
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  crime, conspiracies and anything creepy, kooky, mysterious and
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  spooky. I'm your resident middle-aged
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  white guy with a podcast. And now that autumn has truly
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  landed, I've realised that I'm in the autumnal stages of life.
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  Now that I'm 40, I'm beginning to wither like the trees around
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  me. As my beard shows patches of
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  white like the flecking of seasonal snows, I'm reminded
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  that before long I too will meet the cold darkness of winter, AKA
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  death. And I'm joined, as always, by
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  our Hostess with the most chest. This year she has many options
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  to dress up for Halloween. Will she be a slutty nurse?
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  Or maybe a slutty maid? Or even a slutty cheerleader?
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  Either way, it'll make a change from what she dresses up as
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  every other day. A slutty autistic with
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  generalized anxiety and worships demons and has bad taste in men?
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  It's Danny Thomas. Are you okay?
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  Do we need to talk after this episode?
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  That's, that's the, that's, that's the most fun I've had
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  with the darkness and autumn. Autumn has landed and the fun,
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  the fun of summer is over. It's time to get cozy, get
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  creepy. You know the fires are going to
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  be light and the smell of turf is going to be in your nostrils.
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  We can see the leaves dropping on the ground and as I sit in my
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  room, Storm Amy is battering the windows outside.
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  It is the season to be spooky. It's Halloween, baby.
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  Hell yeah. So every episode from now up
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  until Halloween is going to be Halloween themed in some some
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  way. We'll find out how to make that
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  work. But.
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  Yeah, we'll, we'll figure it out.
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  But, you know, you know what, like, you don't listen to this
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  podcast for its organizational properties or, you know, being
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  on top of anything but yeah. You've been known to be on top a
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  few times. Well.
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  I'd hate it up there so I don't quite a lot.
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  And. I can't stand it.
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  And any guy that's like, oh, get on top and they always try and
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  like pull you on top and you're just like 8 here.
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  No, that's. It.
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  Was like you're looking at my. Shins, I can feel you looking at
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  my shins. I like it anyway I can get it
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  so. I mean, yeah, that's that is
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  that's fair. I'm a skilled but passive lover.
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  I'm like ladies, it's it's your choice.
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  But either way it's going to be medium strength.
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  It's. The most that Brannigan thing
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  you've ever said? Look who came crawling back like
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  a bird on its belly. Birds don't crawl.
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  They've been known to. Best writing?
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  He's so good. Well, there you go.
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  There's a there's Futurama's Kick things off, so the.
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  Simpsons, technically. Speaking of our organizational
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  skills, I texted you today and said, will we do the podcast
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  about Halloween in the most general, general sense of it.
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  And you were like, yeah, we'll record tonight and then that's
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  it. So this, this could be
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  interesting. It's.
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  You did say that you wanted to go into like, the history of
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  Halloween. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So I didn't do any research.
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  So this is your baby here. This is like, this is all you.
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  I know it's a Celtic. It originated.
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  And like if people argue it's either Ireland or Scotland, I
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  would say Ireland. But yeah, I mean, that's all I
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  know. Well.
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  I'm, I'm not going to drag us to same difference, but it's an old
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  Celtic tradition. So not only would it be Irish
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  and Scottish, but it would have actually been rooted kind of all
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  throughout like Europe as we know it.
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  Because as the Gauls came and conquered all of Europe, the
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  Gauls who then like they are the Gaelic people, who we, we come
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  from basically the, the, they would've practiced all of these
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  Celtic traditions and they would've kind of lasted more so
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  in the likes of obviously Ireland, Scotland, Wales, for
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  the most part, the Isle of Man, even there's places on the
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  Iberian Peninsula that would still kind of hold those Celtic
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  traditions because the Celtic people obviously settled all of
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  Europe. It's just that Ireland was kind
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  of too much for like just a bridge too far for the Romans to
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  come and kind of really kill off the Celtic culture.
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  Yeah. And all the way.
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  Over. There, I suppose I'll just kind
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  of get into it. I also don't really have nots,
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  but I just have like bullet points that are going to A to
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  remind me of stuff because like again, just to remind people.
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  I don't know if I, I tell you all the time, I'm riddled with
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  ADHD and I'm not right in the whole fucking ball of notes.
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  So what I'll do is I'll take in information.
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  Eh, not only am I riddled with ADHD, but definitely I've had
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  enough concussions throughout my time to have some form of brain
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  damage. So Swiss cheese brain over here
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  is going to give you what you get.
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  If I don't like it. If anyone wants to, eh, tell me
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  I'm wrong in the comments or eh, you know, just find us on like
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  some social media. Instagram probably is the only
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  place where you really are and or just comments underneath on
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  Spotify and. We won't see it.
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  That's all Alex's job. Alex will deal.
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  With I'll look at it, but like I again, say what you want, I just
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  want the engagement. I'm a lonely old man and.
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  You just want to argue with people in comment sections.
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  You're at that age now Where? Actually, I've I've gone, I've
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  gone, I've reverted back to a being a little kind of I'm I'm
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  testing out jokes in comment sections now and I don't have
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  eh, I don't want recently on Garin noon post that has got
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  like 350 likes in an hour and I was like, Oh yeah, Oh, I forgot
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  about this dopamine, this 2010 Facebook status dopamine.
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  I can't stand him. I just don't think he's funny
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  and he's funny to people who aren't Irish, like don't have an
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  Irish accent because that's all. To me, and I'm Irish.
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  As you're old, you're middle. He's funny to middle-aged Irish
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  people. He just has he he's he has
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  quirky observations, Danny, and I'm sorry that you don't have
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  the brightness in your life to accept that kind of phone in.
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  I think the kind of. Phone you have is making fun of
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  Taylor Swift fans. That's the kind of phone you
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  have. I'm not.
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  I didn't. Play.
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  I didn't play. For spiteful fun.
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  You said none. Of them know how to ask your
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  back and they all give 2. That's.
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  Facts. That's facts.
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  We will tell. You.
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  I'll. Tell.
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  You. I'll tell you for a fact that I
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  know at least 150 who knows how to arch your back and does not
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  give 2 deep blowjobs. One of my friends actually and.
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  It's my sister. No, it's.
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  One of one of my friends messaged me about it and I was
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  like when I said oh not one of those girls knows how to Irish
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  your back and he. Just said he's.
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  Doing anal isn't the personality trait.
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  Danny, I was like. You fucking got me.
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  I was like, yeah, you know what, Spot?
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  Like I deserve that. I did deserve that.
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  And then he and then he was like, ha ha, ha.
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  Anyway, can I get some? It's like.
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  We're not joke. Absolutely.
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  Very good. Right.
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  Ow. Get off me.
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  So tell that hockey player to get out of the room.
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  We're going to do a podcast now. I'm in an abusive relationship
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  with my cat. It's just he just beats me
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  randomly. Awful.
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  I'm. Just sitting here, you'll
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  randomly attack me and I'm just like, sorry, I'm so clumsy these
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  days. I keep falling down the stairs.
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  I'm walking into the the catchment.
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  Anyway, go on Halloween. OK, eh.
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  So Halloween would get its roots, as we were talking, in
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  Celtic tradition and at first it would have been known as Sawin.
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  Now to our North American listeners are people from all
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  over the world. This is spelt S AM Hain.
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  It looks like Samhain, but it's pronounced Sawin.
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  We have a different language. It does not work in English the
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  same way as English does. I would.
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  Not come at us, just the. Americans.
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  I've heard a few Americans actually say it like that as
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  well. Like American American witches
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  quote quotes. Like you can't even say the name
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  of the actual holiday. Yeah.
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  All. Right.
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  It's called Sawan now. Celtic culture would have had a
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  lot of feasts for different occasions.
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  And obviously some of our, uh, well, maybe the best known one
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  in Ireland here would be Inbul, which is in the start of
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  February and it is like the start of spring.
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  And the Catholic Church would have adopted it for, uh, Saint
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  Brigid's day. And this is kind of what happens
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  over time the, the Catholics end up taking our, uh, old Pagan
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  festivals and, you know, rebranding them for Catholicism.
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  But we won't get there just yet. Let's talk about Sawan.
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  Sawan is the festival that would have been celebrating the end of
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  the summer and the start of the winter.
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  So Ireland or Celtic Ireland, the Celts, sorry, would have
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  only really kind of considered two seasons.
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  They have the late season and the dark season, the late season
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  obviously being the spring and summer months and the dark
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  season being the autumn and winter months and the the break
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  between these two. So a summer is called a Saura or
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  Sauric, depending on what way you might pronounce things here
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  in Ireland and on Taurig, Creocon, Taurig is the end of
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  the summer and they would have, uh, celebrate that calling it
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  Sawin. That is the name of the
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  festival. This festival would have been
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  where, uh, clans, uh, the Kelton are, were very clannish.
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  So clans would all gather in one kind of area.
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  Uh, here in Leinster, Tara is famous for being like where the
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  high kings are from. So a lot of the the families
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  from around Leinster would head to Tara and they would meet up
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  with different clans and celebrate the end of the light
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  season and the beginning of the dark season.
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  It's kind of when everything is harvested and now nothing is
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  going to grow. So this is the time to celebrate
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  the light as we go into the darkness.
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  How to celebrate the light? We build big ass bonfires.
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  So this is what the Celts did. They built bonfires.
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  It's sad. Now, a lot of this is kind of
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  the Celts didn't write anything down.
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  You know, they're apparently very clever people, but they
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  just didn't have a written language.
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  So. Everything that we know about
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  this is kind of brought down generationally from word of
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  mouth and then written down by the Christians when they came.
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  So, eh, what I'm going to say is kind of like based, let's say
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  it's based on a true story. So I don't get in trouble for
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  like be like, this is actually what Kel's did.
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  Some fucking guy is going to get unfrozen out of our lifted out
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  of a bog someday, and he's going to be like, that dickhead was
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  spreading falsehoods about my people.
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  And so the, the, the kind of idea is that the families would
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  have quenched their own fires, their own hearth fires, and
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  headed to this big communal gathering, this massive
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  celebration called Sawan. And they would leave Sawan with
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  the fire. So they will take some of the
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  bonfire, the embers from the bonfire and bring it home.
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  And they'd laid their heart again when the festival was
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  over. And during this festival date,
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  obviously partake in all kinds of Pagan rituals.
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  But what do the, the, the, the main thing is they would be
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  paying tribute to like chieftains and stuff like that.
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  So they'd be offering gifts kind of like paying taxes to these
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  chieftains and like, you know, B bringing your tribute, such as
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  like whatever you had grown, you know, that year, like whatever
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  the harvest was. And and also did have a, it was
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  it was a celebration of this time of the year when the veil
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  was lifted. And we talk about the fairies a
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  lot here, Dan. So there's something like
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  otherworldly about Ireland. We have the in our folklore, we
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  have this underworld and we've talked about a lot here, but I
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  don't know which God damn episode was thrown in the bin,
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  which ones went out there. But we talk about fairies a lot
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  here. Standard fucking sneaky
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  bastards. Yeah, Everything that you're
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  taught in Ireland growing up is that they are tricksters and
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  they're not to be trusted and you're to watch yourself.
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  I think we actually only talked about it the episode before last
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  as well. I think I went on a tangent
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  about them, just about the fact that, like, they are sneaky and
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  then people who buy these like, fairy doors, it's like you're
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  inviting that into your home. They're going to take your baby.
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  Remember we were talking about Changeling, that Irish movie,
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  and it's like the tree surgeon guy from the UK.
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  Did I dream this? Because you've looked so lost.
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  You know, I we did talk about the change like my when you're
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  saying tree surgeon, I don't know what the fuck you're
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  talking about. Well, he's actually, he's in the
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  movie, he's a tree surgeon and he comes over from England to
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  this forest somewhere up in the West and he has to live there.
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  And like, I think they're going to be cutting down trees for
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  whatever. And then they're these, this
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  farmer and his son are like intimidating them and trying to
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  get him off the land. And it seems like these are the
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  bad guys. In the movie.
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  But they're just trying to like, save him from the fairies, and
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  then the fairies take the baby and swap it with one of them
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  because that's what they do. They.
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  Kill Kay. We've talked about this on the
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  podcast before then. Yeah, we definitely.
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  Well then, let's stop I. Know I I can't stop I can't I
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  just I hate them so I hate those fairy.
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  Bastards so much. So anyways, the fairies are, as
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  Danny has explained, the. Fairies.
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  Are. Pretty, pretty nefarious, nasty
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  kind of characters. They're not what where we would
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  be taught like in fairy tales where they've got tanker Bell,
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  you know, everything is nice and sweet in Ireland.
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  She's. Conked as well, though she's a
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  little cunt as well. She's just a little thinker,
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  Bell. Rat.
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  Yeah, just demanding attention, screaming at people.
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  She's a little fucking. Street trash.
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  OK. We can go into your your issues
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  at Dingerbell if that's. No moving on for another day.
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  OK, so your your sweet idea of fairies isn't really how it's
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  expressed in Irish and Celtic culture.
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  And so we've got like an underworld and if you fall into
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  that underworld, it's a spooky, creepy place and you might never
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  get out of it. So it's this is where Salwin
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  gets kind of spooky. The veil is lifted during these
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  three days. So like the 31st of October,
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  which is the celebration of Salwin itself.
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  And the following two days, the 1st of November and the 2nd of
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  November, it's going to lose 3 days where like it's, it's the
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  veil is open. And eh, the, the other worlds,
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  not just the other world, the other world, so the fair Elm,
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  but also the dead. So people are celebrating their
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  dead at this time as well. And eh did kind of, you know,
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  pay tribute to their ancestors and stuff like that on, on this
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  time. And what people would do, eh,
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  because they're pagans and they would get fairly, you know,
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  raunchy and the bar just in this kind.
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  These kind of parties were a lot of writing, probably taking
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  shrooms, I'd imagine. Why not?
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  Like, why wouldn't you be? And they would dress open animal
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  skins and try to look as scary as possible to warn off the evil
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  spirits that might come true. The veil while it is at its
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  weakest, so while the the spirits and the fear people are
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  coming from the other worlds, if you look scarier than them, then
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  you had the power and you could scare them away.
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  So this is the idea of wearing costumes.
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  This is the earliest idea of that.
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  Also around the time, if you if you think about it with the with
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  with. With Celtic Ireland, it in
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  October, we're here now. It gets starts to get pretty
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  dark pretty early. So with this darkness kind of
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  comes real kind of spookiness. But when you lace A bonfire, it
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  kind of illuminates the world in a way that you wouldn't normally
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  see the darkness because like, let's face it, human beings
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  aren't great with, eh, with their eyesight.
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  And if you have just like a torch or a Lantern, eh, then you
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  only get to see so far. You get what I'm saying?
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  So if you light a bonfire, you're kind of lighting up a
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  whole area. And then what will happen is the
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  lice will attract insects. And who eats insects in Ireland?
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  The little bats. So if you think about the the
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  bats would come in, eat these insects that are gathering
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  around the bonfire. So now in Halloween, we always
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  have this thing like the bats are a spooky symbol of
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  Halloween. Well, they could go back as far
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  as Celtic times because they have been symbolized like well
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  before modern, uh, depictions of Halloween having bats around the
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  place. So if you're ever wondering why
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  bats are so prevalent with Halloween, it's not just because
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  of the kind of, you know, uh, Dracula and monsters come out
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  during Halloween. It could be because physically
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  bats would show up around these large bonfires.
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  That's an interesting one, I thought anyways.
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  Yeah, I like that. Also with the veil, the thing
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  you said about the veil being Sinnest and stuff, there is a a
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  whole thing of when it comes to like working with magic and
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  deities and things like that. Especially like when it comes to
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  working with demons, there are a lot of like different days of
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  the year that are kind of the best days to work with certain
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  demons, right? And they'll, they'll give you a
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  list. It's like, oh, like the third
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  Wednesday in June or like whatever the fuck it is.
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  But every single demon will work with you on a Halloween.
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  But it's really dangerous to work on the Halloween because
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  like you said, along with them being there, everything else is
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  there as well. And it's very easy for them to
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  just walk in behind them really quickly.
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  Well, the door is still open. So there's that whole thing
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  where like people advise against it unless you're working in like
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  groups and things like that, which is really interesting
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  because it's like any slight door ajar at all.
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  And that goes back centuries and centuries of like, you don't do
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  witchcraft on Halloween unless there's strength in numbers to
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  ward off people. So I'm going to have to dress as
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  a silly cheerleader when I'm doing to even work on Halloween.
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  Yeah, OK, so you're, you're still going to do demon work on
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  Halloween? I'm yeah, I think so.
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  I think I'm going to like chance it and see I've got like my
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  protection wards and stuff up and like I feel like if I can
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  just do a good protection spell just to see what happens.
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  But yeah, I definitely will because it fall.
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  What days is it? Excuse me, what days of fall on
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  this year? Friday No.
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  Friday falls on a Friday night, yeah.
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  You. Ever see that thing where it's
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  like how imagine if Friday's hurting landed on Halloween?
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  Would not be spooky? Yeah, you're fucking idiot.
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  Get off. The Internet.
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  Just get off the Internet, you don't know how calendars.
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  Work. But yeah, I like it's apparently
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  it is. It's a good, a dangerous time to
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  do it, but I'm gonna do it. Friday is the spookiest day as
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  well. It is the spookiest day, but
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  it's also the best day for like, love, magic and stuff like that
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  because it's Venus day. Because I was led to believe
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  that Fridays are the day of the week.
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  That is kind of the demonic day. Yeah, it would be.
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  It's kind of like a lot, a lot of like rituals.
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  Well, a lot of the rituals that you would do out of selfishness
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  are done on Fridays. Like you've got well, the worst
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  kind, the worst day for demons is Sunday.
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  That's when people can do their domination work and their
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  baneful work. Saturdays are like for blasts
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  and through obstacles. So again, that would be anything
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  kind of baneful curses, hexes Mondays, right?
• 25:04
  Like spiritual and healing, because the moon Tuesday is
• 25:08
  that's Marsh, that's communications and communication
• 25:11
  spells Wednesday's healing, Thursday's for money,
• 25:16
  prosperity, Friday for love and lust and sex and things like
• 25:21
  that. And then, yeah, it's it kind of
• 25:24
  everyone has their own day. Every demon has their own day
• 25:26
  that they prefer. Some demons will come to you at
• 25:29
  any time if you're offering something.
• 25:30
  Others will just be like, did you have a look at the fucking
• 25:34
  calendar and the time of the day before ringing me?
• 25:39
  And they'll just be like, no, fuck off.
• 25:43
  Like if he's like literally any of the books is like, oh, don't,
• 25:46
  don't invoke him like after 8:00 PM or he prefers to be invoked
• 25:51
  before noon and it's like, we're just he has to go to the bank or
• 25:54
  something. He has to be.
• 25:55
  Done sound a lot like Andy's. Yeah, they.
• 26:03
  Are. It's like things to be doing now
• 26:05
  better than listening to you. I'm just surprised that demons
• 26:11
  work on the same kind of, you know, like the fact that time is
• 26:18
  a concept for them. I would have imagined that like
• 26:22
  demons being so kind of order, worldly and powerful and from a
• 26:27
  completely different dimension, that time and space would work
• 26:31
  differently for them. But.
• 26:33
  This is like all from. From.
• 26:35
  Grim wars over hundreds of years and are like maybe they're the
• 26:40
  times that they've tried to work with this demon.
• 26:42
  Maybe it averages out as only working better on this specific
• 26:45
  day. So over the hundreds of years,
• 26:47
  it's probably like, well, I read this in Pope whatever is
• 26:50
  grimoire, so I'll try it this way and then it just kind of
• 26:54
  rolls down the lines. But I don't really wait for
• 26:58
  specific days and mine always kind of work.
• 27:00
  So like, I don't know. I don't know.
• 27:05
  But yeah, apparently Halloween is the best day.
• 27:07
  We should do like a live ritual on Halloween.
• 27:11
  Yeah, you can. I'll be.
• 27:13
  I'll be down here safe invoking any spirits.
• 27:18
  You can just watch it and it'll be like that.
• 27:20
  What's that movie that they made in in quarantine?
• 27:23
  Just host, I think it was called.
• 27:25
  And it's just like this group of friends that have like a like a
• 27:28
  zoom night in and then like this demon that they've summoned like
• 27:34
  picks them off 1 by 1 in their houses and they're all just
• 27:36
  watching each other die on Zoom. It's.
• 27:38
  Actually, a good movie sounds sounds like a clever concept to
• 27:43
  be honest. With you, yeah, it was, it was
• 27:44
  really well done as well. It was quite good.
• 27:46
  And then all obviously shap like shap shot really cheap on
• 27:51
  webcams. So I really enjoyed it.
• 27:53
  That was great. Anyway, go on.
• 27:58
  I went off on a tangent there. No, what a shock, Danny.
• 28:04
  You. On this podcast.
• 28:08
  Actually. Someone was messaging me last
• 28:13
  night and night before, and you would love this because the
• 28:17
  question he asked me was literally all right, so what's
• 28:19
  so great about sharks? And I was like, do you have 3
• 28:23
  1/2 hours? They're over 400 million years
• 28:27
  old, they're older than the dinosaurs, and we still don't
• 28:28
  know fuck all about them. That's so cool.
• 28:31
  You're just. Like they're they're older than
• 28:33
  trees. Yeah, yeah, 400 / 400 million
• 28:38
  years old and we don't know anything about them.
• 28:41
  You. Know some stuff about them.
• 28:44
  I know, but like it's like, oh, there's like a.
• 28:45
  Fucking older than trees. A gathering of like hundreds of
• 28:49
  hammerhead sharks at a full moon and this one point and they're
• 28:53
  all female and it's just like, what are they just God forbid
• 28:56
  girls have a night out. Do you know?
• 28:59
  What I mean? Yeah, like literally.
• 29:02
  That's that's just Bristol City center.
• 29:04
  Yeah, like fucking like Sarah the Hammerheads getting hitched,
• 29:08
  she's got little sash on and then all the rest of them are
• 29:10
  fucking locked and round in circles.
• 29:13
  Like yeah, anyway. Somewhere, somewhere out there
• 29:16
  there's a fucking male hammerhead shark that was like
• 29:21
  lobster cuffed to a coral reef with a lot of squid ink all over
• 29:26
  his face with like pictures of little shark Dicks.
• 29:32
  I just made an underwater world for myself that I'm loving.
• 29:44
  There will be no accusations, just friendly.
• 29:51
  We Can't Sing together because I'm still not sure how well
• 29:55
  synced we are. Sort that out, Alex.
• 30:01
  Right, let's get back to this. So Celtic traditions, eh, from
• 30:07
  eh Sawan. We've got our, our bonfires and
• 30:10
  bats and costumes and dead and all kinds of celebrations and
• 30:17
  the Celts love this kind of thing.
• 30:18
  Obviously we're eh, we're having great time at all these
• 30:23
  celebrations and and then comes the party poopers, the Roman
• 30:30
  Catholic Church. So even before the churches
• 30:35
  around the Romans had to obviously come along and conquer
• 30:41
  the, the Gaul, the the Gallic people and drive the Celts,
• 30:48
  maybe not drive them outlet me kind of.
• 30:51
  So when you, as we know Danny as a colonized people and if you
• 30:57
  remember your roots now that you're over there living off of
• 31:01
  Thatcher's tits and we, we are colonized people.
• 31:05
  So we know how it works to colonize.
• 31:08
  You don't just come in and and kill everybody off you.
• 31:12
  You kill a lot of them. If, if you've got South America,
• 31:15
  it's, it's, it's pretty easy that like, you know, eh, the flu
• 31:18
  might do it for you. But yeah, eh, when, when it came
• 31:22
  to like colonizing, eh, the, your border countries and stuff
• 31:27
  like that. You don't just go and kill
• 31:31
  everybody. That's, that's hard work.
• 31:33
  Eh, What you do is you come along, you defeat them in
• 31:38
  battle, and the people that are left is you try to integrate
• 31:42
  them to your society. You make them assimilate with
• 31:45
  you. Yeah.
• 31:47
  Well, that, that was kind of what the Romans were trying to
• 31:50
  do. And maybe not so much like the
• 31:52
  likes of Jenga's can and lads like that.
• 31:55
  Like they'll actually go along and be like, you can do whatever
• 31:57
  you want, just know that I'm your king.
• 31:59
  Yeah. That's the way he did it.
• 32:01
  But the Romans didn't. The Romans like to influence.
• 32:04
  So, eh, they came along and eh, they tried to assimilate the
• 32:12
  Celts into their culture. And when the Catholics came
• 32:16
  along, that meant what we've seen in Ireland a lot is taking
• 32:22
  Pagan holidays or Pagan rituals and rebranding them as Catholic.
• 32:27
  You know, things like Easter and Christmas and every single
• 32:34
  holiday you might think of. The Romans have rebranded A
• 32:38
  Pagan holiday, and the same would go for Sawan.
• 32:43
  Now let's see if I have any kind of notes for this.
• 32:51
  OK, Yeah, so right. No, I don't.
• 32:54
  This is very short. So the Romans would have had the
• 33:00
  Roman Pagan ritual, or a festival for the dead would have
• 33:06
  been called Feralia. It was again, very similar to
• 33:11
  Sawan, but this would have happened in May, I believe, and
• 33:19
  the Roman Catholic Church, when they came to when Christianity
• 33:24
  took over the Roman Empire, basically they changed this
• 33:30
  holiday into their own day of the dead, but also celebrating
• 33:37
  it in a very Catholic way. So let's celebrate the Saints
• 33:41
  and specifically like Mary and a few of like the top Saints that
• 33:49
  Jesus would annoy, you know, Jesus's pals like Peter and.
• 33:54
  Jesus and pals. Jesus, Jesus and pals biggest
• 34:00
  biggest pyramid scheme you've ever seen.
• 34:02
  And so by the the 7th century is when the the church would have
• 34:10
  like the the Catholic Church would have been like rebranding
• 34:14
  this eh Pagan festival are are kind of every Pagan festival and
• 34:20
  All Saints there eh, would have been changed from May to
• 34:27
  coincide with Sawan, the Celtic festival, because you can't
• 34:31
  really change what the Celts are doing.
• 34:33
  So let's just join them and tell them that their day of the dead
• 34:40
  is now our day of the dead and you're now Christian.
• 34:44
  So you will celebrate your day, day of the dead like us.
• 34:47
  But we're going to do it on the same day as you already had just
• 34:51
  thought it was easier for for her dead them to be able to
• 34:54
  convince the Celts that they can do if they can still have their
• 34:57
  celebration. OK, this sort of religion is
• 35:00
  easy to kind of fucking like it's easier on the palace.
• 35:04
  And so All Saints there would have been known as Hallows Day,
• 35:11
  Hallow being like holy day or like you know, the Saints
• 35:15
  you're, you're hallowed as a St. you are hallowed.
• 35:18
  So it was called Hallows Day and that took place on November the
• 35:23
  1st. So the 31st salon was now
• 35:27
  changed to All Hallows Eve. So Hallows Eve, like Christmas
• 35:33
  Eve, it's the evening before Hallows Day.
• 35:38
  Yeah. So that would have in the end,
• 35:42
  went from, eh, All Hallows Eve to Hallows Eve to Halloween,
• 35:48
  kind of just, you know, that's the way language happens
• 35:51
  sometimes. Eh, I think the Scots mostly
• 35:54
  get, eh, blamed for Halloween, eh, hitting the the end at the
• 35:59
  end. But I don't know, like, let's
• 36:01
  not give the Scots credit for everything.
• 36:03
  They're, you know, they're not that great.
• 36:05
  They became very prominent very fast so.
• 36:11
  No fighting them at all. Unlike the Welsh, the Welsh held
• 36:17
  their. Ground for a while, so.
• 36:20
  The. Welsh, the Welsh and even
• 36:22
  fucking in the runnings. They're lap dogs for the Brits.
• 36:26
  Let's. I don't want to get back.
• 36:27
  In the way they fought for their language, they fought for the
• 36:31
  language and the language is still very, very prominent
• 36:34
  today. There's they, they still,
• 36:36
  they're still a bunch of like affluent places in Wales.
• 36:39
  There's like the schools still teach it and like, yeah, they
• 36:48
  did. And then there's like a the
• 36:49
  whole thing with Charles. So when Charles was like back in
• 36:53
  his uni days, he went to College in Aberystwyth and he had to
• 36:59
  learn Welsh because he was going to be the Prince of Wales.
• 37:02
  And he was actually taught by a Welsh nationalist who wanted
• 37:07
  nothing to do with the Crown, like hated it, but he was like
• 37:10
  basically the best of the best that there was.
• 37:12
  He taught him Welsh. He gave his whole like, what
• 37:16
  would you call that speech? Yeah, coronation of like.
• 37:22
  Still. Coronation if he's a Prince.
• 37:24
  So I'm not too sure he was always a Prince, but I think it
• 37:27
  was to accept the title of Prince of Wales.
• 37:30
  OK, Yeah. Or whatever it was.
• 37:33
  And so like, basically he gave that speech in Welsh and no one
• 37:38
  knew he was going to do it, but he got so close to this guy and
• 37:42
  his family. And then like, I think the guy
• 37:46
  himself was just like, obviously hating the crown, hated
• 37:50
  everything it stood for and everything.
• 37:51
  But I think he was just like, actually, like, this kid is a
• 37:53
  nice person that doesn't, you know what I mean?
• 37:56
  And they kind of remained friends for years until that
• 37:59
  chap died. But.
• 38:01
  Yeah, they do. Still, they are.
• 38:02
  Very nationalist then, is he, if he got if he just got kind of
• 38:06
  sweat. Oh, this kids very nice kid
• 38:08
  he's. He didn't agree.
• 38:09
  He's a monarch in fucking kids clothing, he's a filthy colonial
• 38:15
  power, he's a fucking Leech on society and he represents
• 38:20
  everything you. And I.
• 38:22
  As Irish nationalist, people should fucking hate Danny.
• 38:26
  No, I know that I agree with you, but I'm just saying this is
• 38:30
  how it happened with that professor, that he basically was
• 38:33
  like, all right, he actually has a willingness to learn the
• 38:36
  history of Wales and why we reject the crown, like a lot of
• 38:40
  us reject the crown and like the language and things like that.
• 38:43
  He has respect for the language because at this point he did
• 38:48
  want to change. Oh, I just cop.
• 38:51
  It's not the TV, it's me echoing.
• 38:55
  Are you? Are you not wearing earphones?
• 38:58
  No, but. I'm ask me, I can hear me and I
• 39:01
  thought that there was like a TV on.
• 39:06
  No, that's, that's that was annoying me.
• 39:08
  I was just like. Why are you watching telly it
• 39:10
  was possibly recording? But yeah, anyway, so he had
• 39:14
  wanted to change, like, a lot of things.
• 39:16
  And he was like, in his youth he was like, oh, when I come to
• 39:19
  paradise, when I come to power that.
• 39:20
  And then he was told basically, when you come to power fucking
• 39:23
  nothing, Like nothing's going to change.
• 39:27
  And he like was trying to get the Queen to step down long
• 39:30
  before she died as well because he was like, well, you're
• 39:33
  getting too old now, you're out of touch.
• 39:36
  I just think he's because he wanted to shag his fucking sexy
• 39:39
  stripper who are divorced Diana, but whatever.
• 39:44
  Sexy stripper. Who are she?
• 39:48
  That is a downgrade, I don't care.
• 39:50
  I know she was sexy to him. Like did you hear the fucking
• 39:54
  tampon phone call? Yeah, I heard some weird fucking
• 39:59
  dirty. Literally said he wanted to be
• 40:02
  her tampon. Yes.
• 40:05
  Imagine being Camilla Parker Bowles tampon.
• 40:08
  Imagine, imagine being the king of the United Kingdom of Britain
• 40:14
  and Ireland. Sorry Britain and Northern
• 40:19
  Ireland for anyone fucking comes at me for that one.
• 40:22
  I did get very nationalist a minute ago and then I said and.
• 40:27
  I had a. Dream I had a dream recently
• 40:29
  that I became a superhero and eh, people were like, what kind
• 40:34
  of, eh, what kind of crane? Like I, I was like Superman.
• 40:38
  And then it was like, what kind of crimes are you going to
• 40:41
  fight? I was like, hold on.
• 40:43
  And I just flew to England and eh, held King Charles's neck
• 40:50
  until we had the six counties back.
• 40:53
  And it was the best feeling ever.
• 40:55
  I could fly, I could do whatever.
• 40:57
  The only thing I wanted to do was get the six counties back.
• 41:00
  And then I was like, and now, and now to Gaza.
• 41:03
  And then I kind of woke up. But I, I was, I was, it was one
• 41:07
  of those lucid kind of dreams, but I, I was able to control,
• 41:10
  you know, like when like you're in between like dreams and.
• 41:13
  It's like us. You're my favorite kind of
• 41:15
  dreams. We should do a whole lucid dream
• 41:17
  thing because that's fascinating as well.
• 41:19
  But I was kind of in between, like the waking world.
• 41:24
  I was in the state I was in the fucking sawan of being awake and
• 41:30
  being asleep. I was in there, not quite in.
• 41:32
  I had a foot and boat realms and yeah, all I wanted to do was get
• 41:38
  the six counties back. I.
• 41:40
  Need this is for Fermana. Yeah.
• 41:46
  Where are we going with this? I don't know where we're going
• 41:49
  with this, the Wales and the language, but yeah, no, that it
• 41:53
  was that. Like they are still unlike all
• 41:55
  the signs and everything. They still have all the Welsh
• 41:57
  and all the signs. Like we'd have the Irish and
• 41:59
  stuff. They don't have it in Scotland,
• 42:03
  but yeah. They have they have Scots
• 42:06
  Gaelic, but like, it's. Not on the signs.
• 42:10
  Prevalent up there? No, not on the signs.
• 42:12
  Sorry, I thought that's what you meant.
• 42:15
  No, I mean on the sign they still have like and if you get
• 42:17
  into like lifts, this is like lifts going up and it's like
• 42:20
  lift dimin Giovanni and it's like like floor 3.
• 42:25
  Clown Pimp. Yeah, floor 3 is clown.
• 42:28
  Pimp. Clown, clown, clown.
• 42:32
  Maybe it's not clown, but that's how I hear it.
• 42:34
  Clown pimp is floor five. Yeah.
• 42:38
  Clown pin. Lifting.
• 42:40
  What is it? What say 5 pin?
• 42:44
  Pimp. Because.
• 42:47
  It's funny because. We're in a Celtic Celtic, eh,
• 42:53
  Gaelic and Irish Gaelic is kind of a it did.
• 42:59
  We've I've gone through this as well, but the PS and the C's are
• 43:02
  mixed up. So like, obviously our fight, he
• 43:04
  was cool. Like, so I was kind of like, Oh
• 43:06
  yeah, is there's just like per week, you know?
• 43:10
  But obviously a change is over time.
• 43:12
  But it's just when we call our head our crown, and they call it
• 43:18
  their pyong, yeah. Yeah, so it's flower clower,
• 43:25
  which the lady in the lift, it sounds like she's saying clown
• 43:28
  flower, flower pimp, pimp is is spelled pomp.
• 43:33
  So clower, double LAW or PUMP? Interesting.
• 43:42
  Well there we go. We've drifted off into Celtic
• 43:44
  language as a game, as we are one to do every now and again
• 43:48
  because she's over in Wales and I am interested in that shit
• 43:55
  now. Some of the words.
• 43:56
  Do the same though like the C is trawl.
• 43:58
  Yeah, yeah. Like the words that don't have
• 44:01
  PS&C's in them kind of do sometimes match up, except the
• 44:07
  Welsh do kind of refuse to stick vowels in their words a lot
• 44:11
  like. Oh they do.
• 44:12
  Yeah they do. They'd rather have AW than like
• 44:15
  AI. Think it's like AOW double OO.
• 44:20
  Yeah, like club is CLWB for no fucking reason.
• 44:28
  Very funny though. Very funny that they're like oh
• 44:32
  this new like WS didn't exist. And then they're just like we
• 44:36
  got to use it. All the time.
• 44:39
  Yeah, like an old English, like they didn't have WS, they just
• 44:44
  had to use and then they started using and it was the same AV
• 44:46
  like they like. Yeah.
• 44:50
  But then like eyes and JS were the same thing and they just saw
• 44:55
  all you was the same letter and the sound J made was just an
• 45:00
  eye. With the little.
• 45:02
  Take underneath sort of alphabet was yeah.
• 45:04
  And he is let's not get into this fucking etymology of
• 45:08
  language. And I was in the middle of
• 45:11
  something the Catholic Church actually came along then and
• 45:15
  repurpose all the the days. So then that's how we got
• 45:19
  Halloween from all Hallows Eve, the day before All Saints Day.
• 45:25
  They have All Saints Day on the 1st of November and on the 2nd
• 45:29
  of November they call yeah, that's, that's All Saints.
• 45:35
  Just got what you? Did there?
• 45:37
  Don't forget like I do. Like a bit of.
• 45:39
  All Saints. Fucking love All Saints.
• 45:48
  And. Then they're they're cover of
• 45:52
  Under the Bridge. That's better than the original
• 45:54
  because Red Hot Chili. You, you, you say.
• 45:59
  That kills me because like Red Hot Chili Peppers, I guess I get
• 46:03
  the. Hand you're you're over the age
• 46:06
  to like them though. They're like they've seen them
• 46:10
  I've seen any other band live. There's that five year like you
• 46:15
  got those five years on me in those five years are Red Hot
• 46:19
  Chili Peppers phones. They like, you know, do you kind
• 46:22
  of like you liked them before they got like, lame?
• 46:26
  Yeah, I liked them before every song was about California,
• 46:30
  although most even at that. Stage.
• 46:32
  What about? California.
• 46:39
  Right, Christians and yes, they came along and repurposed the
• 46:44
  holidays. They made Halloween All Hallows
• 46:48
  are they made Sao and All Hallows Eve.
• 46:50
  It got charmed to Halloween. And that's kind of like, yeah,
• 46:56
  you have to think about Halloween like this.
• 46:59
  When people say like, where does Halloween come from?
• 47:01
  Halloween in its iteration now doesn't come from Celts, but it
• 47:07
  doesn't come from Americans. It comes from like a mix of all
• 47:11
  of that and everything in between.
• 47:14
  Like what is what? Like I I had it like in today to
• 47:20
  like the baking of a cake, but let's say the baking of a barn
• 47:24
  brack, which is a very traditional Halloween, eh, fruit
• 47:28
  cloth. So.
• 47:29
  The Ring in US. Anybody out there is not from
• 47:31
  Ireland, have a look at maybe getting yourself some bam brack.
• 47:36
  It's absolutely the law. Just put 1/4 of an inch of water
• 47:42
  on it. Just make yourself a nice
• 47:44
  mogati. Just fucking sit up there, sack
• 47:46
  shell and peanuts and eat and fucking barn brack baby.
• 47:50
  It's that's Halloween to me. It's called barn breath over
• 47:54
  here. Oh, really?
• 47:56
  But it is still, yeah, it's still the same.
• 47:58
  Thing stupid Welsh Celtic bastard.
• 48:01
  I know, I know it's called, it's the same fucking thing.
• 48:04
  And then I, I would set it. I was like, do you still do you
• 48:06
  put the ring in it at Halloween and they're like, what?
• 48:10
  No, And I was like the ring that like you nearly fucking choked.
• 48:14
  But that was part of the fun. No, what?
• 48:16
  The Ring. Apparently.
• 48:18
  Apparently there was more stuff than just the ring in the back.
• 48:20
  OK, we're we're going to get side tracked, but this is
• 48:22
  Halloweeny here people. Yeah.
• 48:25
  Is the, the fruit loaf of, as I said, that people would, uh,
• 48:28
  traditionally ease around Halloween time and, uh, there
• 48:34
  was order. It still is.
• 48:36
  Now what they do is they put a ring, a little kind of plastic,
• 48:41
  gold looking. Ring a lucky bag ring.
• 48:45
  Yeah. And if you're the one that pulls
• 48:48
  out the ring, then you're going to get married next, Sir.
• 48:51
  If you're already married, you're going to have great look
• 48:53
  or whatever it is. And so it's just a nice
• 48:56
  tradition. But in the originally,
• 48:58
  apparently in the bar and Brack, there was a bunch of things like
• 49:00
  fucking looked like, eh, it looked kind of like the pieces
• 49:06
  in the Monopoly board. I'll just scattered around the
• 49:09
  bar and Brack and they all meant different things, you know, I
• 49:12
  don't. Know like you got.
• 49:13
  The Celtics had the top hat in the race car, but like.
• 49:18
  It's just a little. It was only there was stuff that
• 49:22
  was buried in there and all meant different things.
• 49:24
  If I would have thought about this earlier on, I would have
• 49:26
  looked up those things. But yeah, you can.
• 49:32
  You can do that. And I'll get into like different
• 49:34
  traditions that came about because of Halloween and where
• 49:39
  it landed. So in medieval times, the
• 49:44
  European customs that came with like the the Catholic kind of
• 49:50
  influence. Now on this same day was
• 49:53
  something called Souling. So on a lot of these that these
• 50:02
  Catholic religious festivals, people would be going door to
• 50:07
  door and what you would be doing is given the given the people
• 50:10
  stuff because eh, the celebrations of Catholicism, eh
• 50:14
  was about sharing with people and like giving to the less
• 50:18
  fortunate. That's why eh, like Christmas
• 50:20
  time, we still have the likes of caroling and then people giving
• 50:23
  money to charity for carols. And you know, the door to door
• 50:27
  caroling, we don't really see it as much anymore.
• 50:29
  And little kids every now and again will show up and look for
• 50:32
  money for singing songs terribly at my door and.
• 50:37
  No change. I always can't say no.
• 50:41
  No. Speak English no.
• 50:43
  Dewey No. Celebrate no Celebrate your
• 50:47
  Xmas. We.
• 50:49
  Like the hawk is where they from.
• 50:51
  We don't celebrate the speaking English in the shop the other
• 50:56
  day. Yeah, Lion bastard.
• 51:01
  It's funny that you say that the, the, the Carol thing.
• 51:03
  So there's a tradition here. I love that.
• 51:06
  I love that. Like, so this is I want to
• 51:07
  actually get a tattoo of this. I don't know if you've heard of
• 51:11
  the Mary Clewid. No.
• 51:14
  What? What is this?
• 51:15
  So the Mary Clewid is basically the story behind it.
• 51:20
  I can just say the word Clewid because it has 2L's.
• 51:23
  That's how you say it like clinically, clinically.
• 51:27
  Scarlets. But so the Mary Clewid was
• 51:30
  basically, back in the day, you would go to people's houses with
• 51:37
  this horse's head, right? Right.
• 51:40
  Very fucking godfather draped in a sheet.
• 51:44
  And you'd carry it around on a stick.
• 51:47
  And then you'd basically be like, let me in to sing for you
• 51:52
  or you're going to have a curse. So they just tell me this.
• 51:57
  When was this? Is this a Halloween tradition?
• 52:00
  This was a Pagan. Yeah, it was Christmas.
• 52:03
  Oh, Christmas. Mary Kaywood Yeah, like the the
• 52:07
  carols and stuff, it kind of came from there.
• 52:09
  So it just starts to be tradition.
• 52:10
  So now they'll do like a a parade every year and Christmas.
• 52:13
  And then Mary Kay would leads the parade just as terrifying.
• 52:16
  Like obviously it's a plastic horse's skull with a sheet on it
• 52:19
  and it like jingles and everything, and people just walk
• 52:23
  around, like walk behind it. Just Carolyn through the
• 52:26
  streets. It's actually pretty cool.
• 52:28
  Interesting. In Scotland as well, they don't.
• 52:31
  They celebrate Hogman A instead of A.
• 52:34
  Well, not instead of Christmas, but alongside Christmas and A.
• 52:37
  Very just I'd like to learn. More about these old kind of
• 52:41
  Celtic or like just ancient traditions that came true and
• 52:45
  see what way they they work. Because obviously in Ireland we
• 52:48
  have our own kind of traditions that would come up through the
• 52:53
  ages. But like, I don't think we have
• 52:55
  anything as kind of weird as bringing our own horses heads.
• 52:59
  I'll show you a picture of her. She's actually like, she's
• 53:01
  pretty cool. I love her.
• 53:03
  Umm. Very, very hills have all these
• 53:05
  kind of fucking business. Here when you've no I'll sit
• 53:07
  there I sent it to you now have a look at your phone, but it's
• 53:09
  not that creepy when you look at it my.
• 53:11
  Phone, Danny is where my notes, my very small notes are.
• 53:17
  I look at it later, OK. Alright, fine.
• 53:19
  But let me get back to before I forget, I want to get back to
• 53:23
  what was in the Brac. So I would never eat a Brac
• 53:30
  again. Now it's gone because I was
• 53:35
  looking for the Mariclood. There you go, Right.
• 53:38
  So what was in the Brac was the I have lost it again.
• 53:45
  This is Halloween. This is Halloween.
• 53:51
  Right. What the fucking?
• 53:57
  You know this is fucking absolutely doing my ADHD in
• 54:03
  fucking haven't you tell. Me, right.
• 54:08
  OK, so a ring, right? So we know meant marriage within
• 54:13
  the year. AP No marriage in the coming
• 54:17
  year. A stick or a matchstick?
• 54:20
  An unhappy marriage or disputes. A cloth or a rag in the brack.
• 54:27
  I don't know how that would even work.
• 54:29
  That was bad luck or poverty. A coin, good fortune or wealth.
• 54:34
  A bean, a future without money and a medallion is taking up
• 54:40
  your religious orders. So I guess becoming a nun or a
• 54:43
  priest or whatever. Must be some size of a brac
• 54:45
  these lads has. I know I was like today, the
• 54:48
  tradition continues, though with fewer items for 60 reasons,
• 54:52
  which many of the other trinkets are no longer used.
• 54:54
  A ring is still commonly included and commercially sold.
• 54:56
  Halloween barn bracks in as a symbol of good fortune.
• 55:03
  Yeah, a rag. Interesting.
• 55:05
  Yeah. Do you know what the funny one
• 55:07
  is? The only ones I kind of doubt
• 55:08
  that didn't ring a bell with me were the coin and the rag.
• 55:10
  I didn't know what the rag was, but I remember my mother telling
• 55:14
  me that they would have something that you'd be biting
• 55:17
  into the barn brack and like, next, that you'd pull out a bit
• 55:20
  of cloth. Like it's just turn you off
• 55:22
  completely because like, yeah, texture of cloth on your tongue.
• 55:26
  But I've had like. They used to wrap it in the the
• 55:28
  ring in the. Paper.
• 55:31
  Yeah, and that does my head and I can't even like they always
• 55:35
  say that's the best for writing spells is on parishment paper
• 55:38
  because it burns nice. It doesn't.
• 55:39
  Oh, yeah. And I'm just like, I can't do
• 55:42
  it. I can't touch it.
• 55:43
  Just reminds me of the brac, the rings that used to be wrapped in
• 55:46
  it. I can't.
• 55:47
  I can't do it. It's like, I hate this.
• 55:49
  Hate it. Anyway, Got.
• 55:52
  To get back to where I was and lo and behold, I do remember
• 55:56
  where I was. We were talking about door to
• 55:58
  door traditions. So again, like with Catholic
• 56:02
  traditions, what they would do is most of most or all of these
• 56:06
  festivals would have had their own kind of door to door giving
• 56:11
  to the poor or giving to the needy what you have.
• 56:15
  And this ass Halloween or All Hallows Eve was called Souling.
• 56:24
  What little kids would go from house to house and they would
• 56:31
  say that they would be performing prayers for the dead
• 56:34
  of your family. So we'll go and say some prayers
• 56:38
  for your dead. Tomorrow.
• 56:39
  It's All Saints Day and the next day is the day of the dead.
• 56:43
  And so we're going to come to your house and you're going to
• 56:47
  give us something nice for us to say prayers for your dead
• 56:52
  relatives. And kind of like a like a Dios
• 56:56
  de Muerte kind of a thing where like their day of the dead, they
• 57:01
  would celebrate their their ancestors and stuff like that by
• 57:06
  praying to them. And like this was kind of that
• 57:10
  tradition, but kids were going around and they were exchanging
• 57:13
  their prayers for little cakes. And apparently the little cakes
• 57:17
  were like little spiced cakes, like what we would probably end
• 57:21
  up making like a bar and brack. But like these will be at the
• 57:25
  time when, when the winter is coming in, they'd make a little
• 57:27
  spice kind of a cake because it warmed you up when the cold was
• 57:32
  coming in. And they'd have these cakes at
• 57:35
  the cross on the top. And they were called soul cakes.
• 57:39
  So kids would be exchanging prayers for the souls for these
• 57:43
  soul cakes. And this is kind of like the
• 57:46
  start of your door to door tradition for Halloween.
• 57:50
  And in Ireland, we, we didn't have, we'll get onto it like
• 57:54
  trick or treating later because it's, it's a relatively new
• 57:58
  thing. And even in my lifetime, we
• 58:01
  wouldn't have called it trick or treat and we wouldn't have
• 58:03
  knocked on the door and said trick or treat.
• 58:05
  We would have said a penny for the puka and a puka in, in, in
• 58:14
  Ireland, a puka would be like, umm, a ghost or like the
• 58:21
  boogeyman. So we would be saying a penny
• 58:24
  for the Pooka. That's, that's what we what we
• 58:27
  do. What I what are you cracking up
• 58:30
  by, Danny? I'm being I'm doing pretty well
• 58:33
  here. You're doing.
• 58:35
  No, sorry, you're doing great, but it's just used to like.
• 58:39
  We're. Telling ghost stories and you're
• 58:41
  a kids we should always just. Go Pooka skill which is a.
• 58:44
  Ghost. Story.
• 58:47
  Not even a scary thing to say, but just like.
• 58:50
  Ghost Story. Oh.
• 58:56
  Like. No, I used to have a cat called
• 58:58
  Pooka as well which is which is really funny but.
• 59:00
  I think yeah, but Pooka would have been like a kind of a cat
• 59:04
  name, wasn't? It Yeah.
• 59:06
  I don't want some cats called Puka.
• 59:09
  That's. The the dog in Anastasia was
• 59:14
  called Puka. I doubt that's anything got to
• 59:17
  do with the Celtic. Because that was Russian, but
• 59:19
  still like, yeah, the dog was called Puka, which I always,
• 59:22
  always. Had a look at myself because the
• 59:25
  storm is going off today. I didn't go to the barbershop
• 59:31
  and I've just looked at myself and have you ever seen Jumanji?
• 59:36
  All right, Alan. I am Alan Parrish right now,
• 59:39
  just after London out of. That movie.
• 59:43
  Right. Oh, sorry.
• 59:45
  Go on. We should, we should, we should
• 59:47
  do an episode on that, on the films that like traumatized us.
• 59:50
  I think that would be a really good.
• 59:51
  Jumanji, one of my favorites as a kid.
• 59:53
  No, I love it, but one part of it used to scare me constantly.
• 59:58
  Monkey monkey kid. No, no, no, not even that.
• 1:00:01
  It's when they're downstairs and they first hear the drums in the
• 1:00:05
  attic. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:06
  Put the shits up me because I could not imagine that.
• 1:00:09
  Like the rest of the movie is fucking great but I loved it.
• 1:00:11
  But like that, that always just creeped me the fuck out
• 1:00:14
  something. Weird the kid transformed into a
• 1:00:16
  monkey. Fucked me up.
• 1:00:19
  Like a little. Joke because his tail was going
• 1:00:22
  up his own arse I think. And do you know what else is
• 1:00:25
  like really fucking? What are we?
• 1:00:26
  This is our next episode. I'd like that's not Halloween
• 1:00:29
  themed. I don't care.
• 1:00:30
  But the witches where they they're snatching children and
• 1:00:35
  then the children show up in the paintings, then they're locked
• 1:00:37
  in the paintings and then they stuff the like opening thing of
• 1:00:41
  it. I mean, not Big Sexy Angelica
• 1:00:43
  Houston, but the opening of it is like that little girl and she
• 1:00:46
  goes and her little brother goes missing and he's snatched by the
• 1:00:49
  witch and, like, he's just playing in the tree and she's
• 1:00:52
  like, come down. I have choked.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah, it's like. That's traumatic, I told you.
• 1:00:57
  My scary. I told you my most traumatic
• 1:01:00
  movie as a kid. Yeah.
• 1:01:03
  Earnest, scared, stupid. Telling you freaked me out.
• 1:01:08
  I remember like one thing that scared me so much when I was a
• 1:01:11
  kid was you played like the original, like the first ever
• 1:01:15
  Resident Evil game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:18
  So I would have been. 656 when that.
• 1:01:22
  Came out? What year did that come out?
• 1:01:24
  Must have been 9596. It would have been 90, yeah,
• 1:01:28
  9590 cousin. Didn't Resident Evil 2 come out
• 1:01:30
  in 98, didn't it? So.
• 1:01:32
  Yeah, well, whatever. The first one was right.
• 1:01:35
  And I used to love sitting in my brother's room.
• 1:01:39
  I'm just watching him play PlayStation all day.
• 1:01:41
  I just like, I just love doing it no matter what.
• 1:01:43
  He was playing. And he was playing Resident
• 1:01:45
  Evil. I shouldn't have been allowed in
• 1:01:47
  the room to watch and play that, but whatever.
• 1:01:49
  There's like a scene when they first go into the old house and
• 1:01:52
  then they call upstairs and then the zombie is just like Lent
• 1:01:55
  over eating this corpse. And then he just like hears them
• 1:01:59
  and like turns to the camera. I had nightmares about that for
• 1:02:03
  fucking months. Months.
• 1:02:06
  I was terrified of that for and I still think about that.
• 1:02:09
  You know, I'm, I'm just gonna, I'm, I'm gonna cut you off on
• 1:02:12
  this one and I'm gonna tell you why.
• 1:02:14
  And it's not because I, it's, it's not because I'm and I want
• 1:02:17
  to get through a Halloween episode because I did, I
• 1:02:19
  automatically went, I have a great contribution to this.
• 1:02:24
  But I know why I have a great contribution to this because
• 1:02:28
  we've talked about this. Have it.
• 1:02:30
  On the podcast, it was obviously the second third of an episode
• 1:02:34
  where you're like, I'm, I'm too drunk to care about what I'm.
• 1:02:38
  Sorry. I did tell you, I did tell you
• 1:02:41
  that I played Resident Evil 2 and only got as far as the
• 1:02:45
  police station and stopped. Oh yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Because the arms came out. You got like 2 fucking third
• 1:02:52
  like 13 minutes into the fucking game at that point.
• 1:02:55
  Yeah, that. Was it?
• 1:02:57
  That was it. I was like, I was a big.
• 1:03:00
  Hard fan like Silent Hill and everything so fucking good like
• 1:03:04
  but I even have. That those those Slender Man
• 1:03:07
  games. Yeah, I don't like those Like I
• 1:03:10
  watch like my. Games fuck me up.
• 1:03:12
  Oh. Some of my favorite like
• 1:03:14
  streamers are like those guys that play the horror games and
• 1:03:16
  then get the shit scared out of them.
• 1:03:17
  I love it, but I'm watching them like and I love horror movies.
• 1:03:21
  I just can't handle a game. Like I play the immersion of it.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah. And I'm just.
• 1:03:27
  It's because you're moving into a space where something is going
• 1:03:30
  to jump scare you. It's not like if the camera is
• 1:03:33
  following it, you can at least like look away.
• 1:03:35
  But when you're controlling the camera, then you're like
• 1:03:38
  watching where you're going with like.
• 1:03:40
  I know I don't like it, I don't like it and I love horror games.
• 1:03:43
  I just like I don't like it like I play like days gone and I just
• 1:03:46
  like the amount of times I'm just like oh shit myself because
• 1:03:49
  the zombie will come out of nowhere and like Matt used to
• 1:03:52
  always slag me for it. Or like you'll get chased by a
• 1:03:53
  horde and getting chased by anything in games.
• 1:03:56
  I just I can't deal with it, especially a fucking horrid as
• 1:03:59
  zombies. There's like fucking hundreds,
• 1:04:01
  hundreds of them coming after you and I'm like.
• 1:04:05
  Just trying to like run a nail I.
• 1:04:06
  Panic, I can't handle it, especially if I'm on a
• 1:04:08
  motorbike. I'm like, and I'm like, I love
• 1:04:14
  horror movies, horror games. I just can't deal with being
• 1:04:17
  chased or going into a dark place where I know there's going
• 1:04:20
  to be something that jumps out. Like I could go into a dark
• 1:04:22
  place on my own, like in the physical realm, I wouldn't be
• 1:04:27
  scared. But if I'm in a game much, it's
• 1:04:29
  like, no, I don't know, I don't like it.
• 1:04:32
  Dumb scares are the ones they're they're the guys I'll get you.
• 1:04:36
  Yeah, anyway. Let's.
• 1:04:38
  Jump back into this. We did some good detours here
• 1:04:40
  though. Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  We like we could make an episode on like.
• 1:04:44
  Bruni an hour. In so like, come on.
• 1:04:46
  Yeah, to be honest with you, like we're getting there in the
• 1:04:50
  modern Halloween soon, so. Yeah, we're getting to the end
• 1:04:53
  of your notes. So it's the longer we drag it
• 1:04:55
  better. Yeah, well look, to be honest
• 1:04:59
  with you, we've only gotten through 2 lines of my notes, so,
• 1:05:02
  and there's another 4 lines left.
• 1:05:07
  No, the so, along with the door to door sauling as it was
• 1:05:11
  called, eh. What would have came along in
• 1:05:15
  eh, like the medieval times would be eh the practice of
• 1:05:20
  gazing, which would be wearing. Costumes very dirty.
• 1:05:26
  Eh, sorry, say again. It all sounds very dirty.
• 1:05:30
  Guising like a guy's. Geising yeah guys in this her
• 1:05:36
  last night should have fucking seen her guys.
• 1:05:39
  In the key offering. Dirty.
• 1:05:41
  Mind. I'm pure of heart though.
• 1:05:49
  Jesus Christ and Guising was the practice of wearing costumes and
• 1:05:55
  performing tricks or songs for rewards.
• 1:05:58
  So again, we kind of get into the wearing of costumes in
• 1:06:03
  England. Like medieval, like England you
• 1:06:07
  would have had mummer bands. So these mummers were just like
• 1:06:11
  actors who would have travelled around and there.
• 1:06:14
  So you're like you'd hear it in likes a game of Trons and fancy
• 1:06:17
  stuff are like medieval stuff where mummers were the guys who
• 1:06:21
  put on players. They travel from town to town to
• 1:06:24
  put on plays. Well, Murmurs also would have
• 1:06:27
  like loved the festival. So they'd show up in towns and
• 1:06:30
  they'd dress themselves up and they'd make their money by
• 1:06:34
  performing, you know, like either kind of plays or music
• 1:06:42
  tricks, this kind of stuff. That's, that's again, would have
• 1:06:46
  become a part of medieval Halloween celebrations.
• 1:06:52
  And so let's get to how Halloween kind of gets a little
• 1:06:59
  bit modern. So we've gone through the, the,
• 1:07:02
  the Celtic why? Oh, I forgot why I was talking
• 1:07:05
  about Bambrack. We just went off on such a
• 1:07:07
  fucking tangent that what I was explaining was that I've heard
• 1:07:12
  Halloween being described as like baking a cake.
• 1:07:15
  That's why I mentioned Bambrack. And you couldn't have the cake
• 1:07:21
  without all the ingredients. And like the, the kind of
• 1:07:26
  beginnings of a Halloween, true sowing is kind of like the eggs.
• 1:07:32
  And then you've got the medieval point of Halloween or the, the
• 1:07:39
  Catholic part of Halloween. Or they, they could be like the,
• 1:07:42
  the, the flour and the milk. And then when we get to America,
• 1:07:46
  it's when you start putting all these ingredients together and
• 1:07:49
  start adding the little flares and the finishing touches.
• 1:07:53
  Umm, so in eh, like when the, the Americas got colonized,
• 1:08:01
  North America was kind of colonized by eh Puritans.
• 1:08:05
  We've gone through this kind of, I think eh before when, when it
• 1:08:09
  came to talking about like spooky, eh, like the goal
• 1:08:12
  stories and how they kind of, eh, came over and like got rid
• 1:08:16
  of all the kind of native culture and came along and just
• 1:08:20
  brought Jesus and that was it, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
• 1:08:23
  So the Puritans came over and these filthy Protestants weren't
• 1:08:29
  like us, uh, lovely, genuine Catholics who never did anything
• 1:08:33
  wrong. And they hid these, these filthy
• 1:08:37
  Protestants who after the, the Reformation in Europe would have
• 1:08:42
  kind of started to, uh, look at things kind of more a black and
• 1:08:49
  white Christian than kind of holding on to Pagan traditions
• 1:08:53
  and stuff like that. So they looked at it in a way
• 1:08:55
  that like there was just good and there was just evil.
• 1:08:58
  There was just God, there was just the devil, there was just
• 1:09:00
  angels and there was just demons.
• 1:09:02
  So when they landed in America, they kind of dealt with Sawan or
• 1:09:13
  All Hallows Eve, not at all like they were like, this isn't for
• 1:09:17
  us. We're not going to celebrate
• 1:09:19
  anything that is kind of like, eh, demonic or anything that
• 1:09:23
  like might have like witchcraft connotations.
• 1:09:27
  You remember we're talking about the witches in Puritanical, eh,
• 1:09:31
  America? I accuse goody bad wife.
• 1:09:34
  Like, basically, yeah, you've got people acting a little bit
• 1:09:37
  fucking naughty, eh? And let's fucking call her a
• 1:09:41
  witch and we'll burn her at stake and we'll hang them or
• 1:09:45
  we'll do whatever. We, we, we, we're going to kill
• 1:09:47
  all these women because now we're afraid that the demons
• 1:09:51
  have got them or like that they are, uh, practicing witchcraft.
• 1:09:56
  So again, these Puritans, they just don't want anything to do.
• 1:10:01
  They won't wait like something that could be demonic.
• 1:10:04
  They wouldn't want to bring that presence into them.
• 1:10:06
  They want to be goodly people who just worship, worship Jesus
• 1:10:16
  and God and have dry, horizontal straight back sex.
• 1:10:24
  They don't they, they don't want to have any kind of crack at
• 1:10:31
  all. Now they would have had in
• 1:10:36
  America harvest festivals obviously when it came to
• 1:10:42
  November in like North America, we they also would have been
• 1:10:49
  kind of celebrating this like let's like not look at the likes
• 1:10:53
  of Florida or like, yeah, Texas or these hot states.
• 1:10:57
  And but if we think about like Middle America and the north of
• 1:11:03
  North America or the north of the USA, you've got places that
• 1:11:08
  would have been celebrating kind of the same seasonal changes as
• 1:11:11
  us, just to a little bit of a different degree.
• 1:11:14
  And so they would have brought their European kind of times
• 1:11:20
  that they they celebrate the harvest and brought to America,
• 1:11:25
  but now it's a very American kind of a thing.
• 1:11:28
  And that's where we get the likes of Thanksgiving from, eh
• 1:11:32
  Or let me just backtrack just a second because I didn't have it
• 1:11:34
  in my N while I want to wear to kind of talk about how eh
• 1:11:39
  Britain had kind of adopted eh eh, some Halloween celebrations
• 1:11:47
  in to the 5th of November or Guy Fox Day or Bonfire Night, as
• 1:11:55
  they call it. So yeah, that's that That's kind
• 1:12:00
  of changed Halloween in Britain a little bit more.
• 1:12:03
  So it kind of, that's why we don't really associate eh
• 1:12:07
  Britain with Halloween as much as we do with Ireland and
• 1:12:10
  obviously America, because what had happened was eh in fucking,
• 1:12:16
  I want to say some year between 1400 and. 80 Lady.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah, 19/19/99 eh? A fella called Guy Fox was sick
• 1:12:34
  of these reformers, these Protestants, these bastards, and
• 1:12:38
  I don't want to guess the king that was in charge at the time,
• 1:12:42
  but let's just say he was Richard.
• 1:12:48
  He probably. Were Richard or Charles?
• 1:12:49
  But I'm going to say he was Richard and he didn't like that
• 1:12:52
  he was a Protestant king, eh, And he wanted to bring back
• 1:13:00
  Catholicism and he came up with a plot called, I think it was
• 1:13:07
  the the Gunpowder Plot. Was that what they called it?
• 1:13:10
  And. They were going.
• 1:13:11
  To blow up Westminster so they had a lower barrels of gunpowder
• 1:13:15
  ready and they were going to fucking set off eh this these
• 1:13:20
  barrels and explode Westminster and Bush and get rid of all the
• 1:13:24
  monarchy and bring it back to a a Catholic country.
• 1:13:29
  Get rid of all these filthy, eh, putting your eh, toasting fork
• 1:13:35
  in the cupboard, eh filthy, filthy fucking Mary had sex
• 1:13:42
  Protestant. Bastard fucking.
• 1:13:46
  And as they brought a their celebrations over to the 5th of
• 1:13:51
  November where there would have been having the bonfires on the
• 1:13:55
  5th of November because Guy Fox was actually burnt to death and
• 1:13:59
  apparently his body was quartered and sent all over the
• 1:14:04
  place to give a warning to any would be Catholic usurpers.
• 1:14:08
  And the reason why they have fireworks, it's fireworks night,
• 1:14:12
  is because if Guy Fox was successful in his plot, this
• 1:14:18
  Gunpowder Plot, that you would have seen Parliament go up like
• 1:14:24
  fireworks. And so they mockingly use
• 1:14:27
  fireworks to celebrate Guy Fox. They and they burn effigies of
• 1:14:33
  Guy Fox, which they just called Fox and eh, our guys and they
• 1:14:40
  yeah, so they celebrate that. So kind of Halloween shifted
• 1:14:45
  over. They still had Halloween, but
• 1:14:47
  all that kind of fun fireworks stuff and bonfires, they kind of
• 1:14:51
  kept that to the for the 5th of November.
• 1:14:55
  But we. Still.
• 1:14:56
  Go over to America. And so did you want to add
• 1:14:59
  anything there for the the Guy Fawkes off the you, you have
• 1:15:02
  you? You've been out for Guy Fawkes
• 1:15:03
  Night, Have you? Obviously.
• 1:15:05
  Well. They don't like go out for it
• 1:15:07
  like they again, it's just like some stuff that we would do on
• 1:15:10
  Halloween they do like. So the bonfires, things like
• 1:15:14
  that. People would just go and stand
• 1:15:15
  and watch a few bonfires. There's fireworks and things,
• 1:15:18
  but like fireworks aren't really like a huge Tang in Ireland for
• 1:15:23
  these things. I mean there's like there's
• 1:15:24
  fireworks night in Wexford. I don't know if you have that
• 1:15:27
  anywhere else, but that usually it marks it's in October, but it
• 1:15:31
  marks the, they've done it for years.
• 1:15:33
  It marks the opening of the Wexford Opera Festival.
• 1:15:37
  So I don't know if there's like a fireworks or like night around
• 1:15:41
  the rest of the country. Kildare, we just have fireworks
• 1:15:45
  month where a bunch of. Illegally fucking Dick heads.
• 1:15:51
  Go up to Northern Ireland and get a bunch of selection boxes
• 1:15:56
  and Roman candles and bottle rockets and catch on wheels or
• 1:16:00
  whatever the fuck they have and they bring them down here and I
• 1:16:04
  dog has a terrible month and yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:07
  I mean, our cat used to like we what when I lived like obviously
• 1:16:11
  was a housing estate and then the really rough housing estate
• 1:16:13
  was kind of like a little bit ways from us.
• 1:16:15
  Now air cat never kind of like travelled that far.
• 1:16:19
  He usually kind of just stayed around like our cul-de-sac that
• 1:16:23
  we were in, like he was a bit of a homebody, but like he'd be in
• 1:16:27
  the whole time just shaking and hiding under the sofa because
• 1:16:29
  like just the noise and it's just, it's horrible.
• 1:16:32
  Like they get so scared of it and like he's fought.
• 1:16:35
  I think he's a bit of an adult to be honest.
• 1:16:38
  He doesn't react to loud noises at all.
• 1:16:40
  He just doesn't care. But like it should be fucking
• 1:16:43
  like illegal in like residential areas.
• 1:16:47
  Like there's a few places like because I live so high up, we
• 1:16:49
  can see. Danny, you know what's illegal
• 1:16:51
  here? Like in any place.
• 1:16:55
  They don't really do anything about it though, do they?
• 1:16:57
  They're just they, that's what I mean.
• 1:17:00
  And like you can see here. So like, because I, I live on
• 1:17:02
  the 17th floor, when it's like fireworks night, we go upstairs
• 1:17:05
  to the 22nd and you can literally go to any part of the
• 1:17:09
  any side of the building and see a display basically.
• 1:17:13
  And I think that's fine because they're controlled and their
• 1:17:15
  actual shows or whatever. But like you fucking like for
• 1:17:18
  the next months now, two months, it'll just be constant fireworks
• 1:17:23
  or fucking scumbags in housing estates and it's just the worst.
• 1:17:27
  You have frozen. Are you just staring at me or
• 1:17:30
  are you frozen justy? So you give us a new entry.
• 1:17:53
  Hello, welcome back. Like a focus.
• 1:17:56
  I'm about to die and Danny's a slut, right?
• 1:18:02
  So where were we were filthy Protestants in in America?
• 1:18:09
  We've got you our guidebox, the tour and we are now back in
• 1:18:13
  America that a bunch of. You don't want to go to Canada.
• 1:18:22
  A bunch of Puritans came over to colonize North America, and what
• 1:18:30
  they brought over with them was no crack at all.
• 1:18:33
  So they didn't really celebrate Halloween the same way.
• 1:18:35
  They didn't like these Pagan customs.
• 1:18:37
  They didn't like talking about ghosts and ghouls and goblins
• 1:18:41
  and all this kind of weird shit because basically they thought
• 1:18:46
  it was an affront to their very eh trace stringent God.
• 1:18:54
  The kind of God that only less than saying boring hymns and
• 1:18:59
  they're not allowed to any car wheels or say things like praise
• 1:19:04
  Jesus and. Actually, yeah, these.
• 1:19:09
  Oh yeah, go on, go ahead, Pretty.
• 1:19:11
  Quick question, sorry, have you watched the Righteous Gemstones?
• 1:19:14
  No, I I haven't. I know I showed Danny by.
• 1:19:17
  Incredible. No, it just, it just reminded me
• 1:19:20
  because she said about the I'll give you my now my now password
• 1:19:24
  because it is like £20 a month, but like you get every.
• 1:19:28
  Year this. Is why.
• 1:19:32
  You're friends. I'm like, literally, I'm like an
• 1:19:37
  Irish mommy, but instead of forcing food on people, I forced
• 1:19:39
  my logins to things because I'm just.
• 1:19:41
  Like I've got, yeah, I've got my eh, I've got Prime, Netflix and
• 1:19:48
  Disney. And I give my login to any,
• 1:19:53
  anybody who needs them. So if you need any of those,
• 1:19:56
  Danny, I'll, I'll, I'll hook you up.
• 1:19:58
  And I've got I've got Ahmed's net Netflix, umm, I've got my
• 1:20:03
  own prime just because I use the next day delivery and same day
• 1:20:06
  delivery over here all the time. Yes, yes.
• 1:20:09
  Umm, but I might snake the Disney and just half at which
• 1:20:12
  each month just sent you the. Fucking. 7.
• 1:20:15
  I'll. Have it.
• 1:20:17
  You don't have to have it with me.
• 1:20:19
  You'll. Just get no, Elise was like, oh,
• 1:20:22
  I might upgrade because I was gonna like obviously stop using
• 1:20:24
  Ahmed's Netflix. And then she was just like, I, I
• 1:20:26
  can upgrade mine so I can have two different devices on it.
• 1:20:29
  So you can give me the £8 a month.
• 1:20:30
  And I was like you fucking English.
• 1:20:33
  Tiger. But, and I know someone's
• 1:20:38
  probably at home listening to this.
• 1:20:40
  Obviously no one is at home listening to this.
• 1:20:41
  But if anyone is at home listening to this and tells me.
• 1:20:46
  We are an oil rig podcast. We are the.
• 1:20:50
  Night Shift at the Graveyard podcast.
• 1:20:54
  Nobody anywhere is listening to this.
• 1:20:59
  Well, if you are going to complain that I am supporting
• 1:21:01
  Disney, they took that money out of my account in March.
• 1:21:05
  I forgot that they did it and I what am I going to do?
• 1:21:11
  Fucking just saying all to that content.
• 1:21:16
  It's it the money spent guys, the money spent.
• 1:21:19
  I didn't go do a comedy show on Riyadh, OK?
• 1:21:21
  I just have the money. They basically.
• 1:21:25
  That comedy show. That money from me?
• 1:21:29
  It is that comedy show was heartbreaking actually.
• 1:21:31
  That is just another little slide now, but that is fucking
• 1:21:34
  heartbreaking not. Gonna be our detail or not Gonna
• 1:21:36
  talk about Riyadh? I want to talk about Riyadh, but
• 1:21:39
  I'm just like, literally, I saw. So you know Zach Woods, who
• 1:21:42
  plays Gabe on The Office? And yeah, I love him.
• 1:21:45
  He's he's very and so far very vocal about how.
• 1:21:50
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and he just like he is so
• 1:21:54
  funny. Yeah.
• 1:21:56
  Shingles didn't didn't accept it, but like, he's the fucking,
• 1:21:59
  he's top of the game now. He doesn't need fucking chump
• 1:22:02
  fucking Israeli, Saudi money. Wherever the fuck Riyadh is, I
• 1:22:06
  don't know one of the country. Party like the money must have
• 1:22:09
  been insane if if the likes of Chappelle and and like they'll
• 1:22:14
  they'll go over and do it Well, Chappelle probably wouldn't mind
• 1:22:17
  anyways, but Bill. Burr.
• 1:22:19
  Has what got me. He's got so much money.
• 1:22:23
  Wilbur got me because he's one of my favorites, but also he's
• 1:22:26
  very aligned with my politics. Like, so, yeah.
• 1:22:29
  So like I, I was kind of gutted when I saw it at bar.
• 1:22:35
  My favorite comedian of all time is, you know, a sellout like and
• 1:22:42
  like Pete David, like his justification of as well is just
• 1:22:45
  doubling down on selling out like, and it's just breaking my
• 1:22:49
  heart. This this is the thing though,
• 1:22:52
  right? If and like again, like Pete
• 1:22:54
  Davidson, his dad was a firefighter who died in 9/11.
• 1:22:57
  All right, that's a whole thing on its own.
• 1:23:01
  If Bill Burr had of just come out and said are you going to
• 1:23:05
  fucking say no to that paycheck? Fuck you, I'm taking the money.
• 1:23:08
  I would have more respect for him saying.
• 1:23:10
  That one, that's exactly what I said, that if you just listen,
• 1:23:16
  this, this money is too much to say an author, I'd say OK, but
• 1:23:20
  because he went, he went over and was like, umm, I'll this
• 1:23:26
  place is just like America. I couldn't believe how like,
• 1:23:30
  like us they are. And then he explains.
• 1:23:32
  Like he's like the. Fucking fuck off.
• 1:23:34
  Hack. What, when he was saying like, I
• 1:23:37
  thought, eh, we, we, umm, we'd be told that we can't talk about
• 1:23:42
  a bunch of stuff. And apparently that's the way it
• 1:23:45
  was at the start. But then the producer said you
• 1:23:46
  can't have comedy unless we're free to speak.
• 1:23:49
  So he whittled them down to you can't talk bad about religion or
• 1:23:55
  the Saudi royal family or any cultural kind of, eh, funny
• 1:24:00
  thing about eh, Saudi Arabia that you find funny because that
• 1:24:04
  will be disrespectful to the Saudi people.
• 1:24:06
  And you can't talk about like this, that and the other thing.
• 1:24:08
  And it's like, oh, then it's then you're not, you are
• 1:24:12
  restricted. And that's like you're going
• 1:24:13
  over to a place where you're talking about freedom of speech
• 1:24:16
  in America and this whole Charlie Kirk thing that brought
• 1:24:19
  up this did the Kimmel stuff and all like everything that came
• 1:24:23
  out with that. And it's like we're losing our
• 1:24:25
  free speech and all the comedians banded together to
• 1:24:29
  say. Like, get Kimmel back.
• 1:24:30
  It's like. We don't agree with Jimmy
• 1:24:32
  Kimmel, but fucking you gotta have free speech.
• 1:24:34
  And then they go over there and accept money to go and to to
• 1:24:39
  tell jokes that are they're restricted in their speech to
• 1:24:42
  tell jokes for a bunch of fucking eh monarchs who are
• 1:24:46
  still eh, enslaving people and putting journalists into little
• 1:24:52
  pieces. Like what?
• 1:24:53
  And homosexuality. People.
• 1:24:56
  Is gay over there? They're fucking killing people
• 1:24:58
  just for being gay. Like it's just a horrible
• 1:25:00
  fucking place. And it's like, this is The thing
• 1:25:03
  is also Cynthia Nixon, she used to play for anyone who watched
• 1:25:06
  Sex and the City. She played Miranda in Sex and
• 1:25:08
  the City, and that's one of my favorite shows of all time.
• 1:25:11
  But she did this really fucking stupid, out of touch TikTok and
• 1:25:16
  just being like, and we're cancelling all of our Disney
• 1:25:19
  subscriptions. Yeah, yeah, we'll really miss
• 1:25:21
  Only Murders in the Building. And yeah, we will miss Abbott
• 1:25:24
  Elementary. But I'm not coming back to
• 1:25:26
  Disney until Jimmy Kimmel is allowed back.
• 1:25:29
  And it's like, boycott Disney. It's like, yeah, you're
• 1:25:31
  boycotting for fucking Jimmy Kimmel, not anything to do with
• 1:25:34
  the fucking genocide that they're actively fucking
• 1:25:37
  funding, OK? Fuck.
• 1:25:39
  Off. Like honestly, but it's like,
• 1:25:42
  yeah, if it feel better how to come out and just been like,
• 1:25:44
  yeah, I'm fucking I'd like to see you come and say no to that
• 1:25:48
  money for no matter like you know what I mean, but like.
• 1:25:50
  The mard if. So if they said to me right now
• 1:25:53
  come over here and tell a few jokes and they offered me 10
• 1:25:56
  grand, I would fucking do it and a happy.
• 1:26:00
  I'm poor. I am young Kapoor.
• 1:26:03
  I am so fucking. I'm so poor.
• 1:26:07
  I I'm fucking I. Am poor.
• 1:26:10
  I'm the other side of poor. I am in a hole that I I.
• 1:26:15
  AM. Poor I wouldn't do it for 10
• 1:26:17
  grand. Now because Danny, you could if
• 1:26:21
  you wanted, just lift your top up at some lad will give you
• 1:26:24
  money no one. Wants to see my tits.
• 1:26:27
  You've got you've got a last resort.
• 1:26:29
  My last resort is walking into the sea and stop holding my
• 1:26:33
  breath. I don't have the like my I
• 1:26:38
  don't. I'm not against someone get in
• 1:26:42
  the bag if they need the bag. But Bill Burr doesn't need his
• 1:26:46
  bag. Bill Burr has got his bag.
• 1:26:48
  Bill Burr has been doing fucking Hollywood movies.
• 1:26:51
  He's a producer, he's a director.
• 1:26:53
  He's a fucking movie star Now he's a stadium.
• 1:26:56
  Fucking sellout merchants. Who?
• 1:26:59
  Do you a fucking blood money sellout merchants?
• 1:27:02
  Who do you think, though? Who do you look down on more for
• 1:27:05
  doing this? Him or Pete Davidson, whose
• 1:27:07
  father was. Killed like Pete Davidson I'd
• 1:27:10
  look at and I'd be like he doesn't open his mouth about
• 1:27:13
  stuff like he hasn't come out and been like he.
• 1:27:18
  Has. Been whitewashed to fuck.
• 1:27:21
  He's removed all his tattoos. He's very conservative now.
• 1:27:26
  He's like, yeah, no, he. Doesn't seem like someone who
• 1:27:31
  has like, you know, is walking around what an agenda.
• 1:27:34
  But like Bill Burr is the same guy who said let's fucking kill
• 1:27:37
  the billionaires and that he championed Mangione.
• 1:27:41
  He was someone who said billionaires shouldn't exist if
• 1:27:44
  you have a, if you have a billionaire, Eh, why can't we
• 1:27:48
  just keep them as like, let them have 900 million and give away
• 1:27:53
  that 100 million like, and then he's talking about socialist
• 1:27:58
  stuff. Mm hmm.
• 1:28:01
  And as a. Liar and he goes and players for
• 1:28:02
  the fucking the trillionaires. He goes and fucking and and goes
• 1:28:06
  and fucking where like in that building at in the first few
• 1:28:12
  rows, you've got all these diplomats and fucking
• 1:28:15
  businessmen and wealthy people. And then you've got the upper
• 1:28:19
  echelons, IE the fucking the the ruling class are behind them.
• 1:28:25
  And then in the way in the fucking back are the normal
• 1:28:28
  people of Saudi Arabia. And we've seen it with these WWE
• 1:28:32
  shows, like it's like you come. In Romania there next year.
• 1:28:37
  Yeah, well, you've, they're haven't wrestled that.
• 1:28:39
  This is it. They've sold WrestleMania, said.
• 1:28:42
  Well, they bought wrestle. The Saudis have bought
• 1:28:44
  WrestleMania because there is a price for.
• 1:28:47
  That's what I mean. If.
• 1:28:50
  Like, I'm not surprised that WE have sold, like sold their souls
• 1:28:55
  to eh, to to the Saudis because like, it's not exactly what like
• 1:29:01
  the kind of thing that you expect them not to do.
• 1:29:03
  Like, you know, they'll get their money anyway.
• 1:29:04
  Like, but like then you get to see wrestlers who you have
• 1:29:08
  respected work for the Saudis and be like, oh, this person.
• 1:29:13
  I thought like CM Punk, like you would have looked at that and
• 1:29:16
  said that person is never going to fuck in, uh, lower himself to
• 1:29:20
  that. And then they handed him a
• 1:29:21
  fucking bag and he took it. And then we can be disappointed
• 1:29:25
  in people who betrayed their morality and their politics and
• 1:29:30
  take the money. But like, I'm not going to say
• 1:29:33
  to some fucking jobber on the show who's not making nearly the
• 1:29:38
  CM Punk money and who hasn't been vocal about politics
• 1:29:42
  against the likes of the Saudis. Like CM Punk has called it blood
• 1:29:45
  money. He gave out to WE for fucking
• 1:29:48
  working with the Saudis before he went back to WE and himself
• 1:29:51
  worked for the Saudis. So we can be disappointed in CM
• 1:29:53
  Punk in the same way as we can be disappointed with Bill Burr
• 1:29:57
  because he is someone who has shown social politics.
• 1:30:00
  Now don't get me wrong, he's still a centrist in the way he
• 1:30:04
  thinks. Because you have to be to be a
• 1:30:06
  good comedian. You have to be able to sit on
• 1:30:09
  the fence and be able to poke fun or see the humor in both
• 1:30:14
  sides. But yeah, he his politics did
• 1:30:18
  lean very socialist in that. Absolutely.
• 1:30:21
  He says we shouldn't have billionaires and people
• 1:30:24
  shouldn't be starving around the world.
• 1:30:26
  And then he goes off and works for the Saudis who are eh have
• 1:30:31
  human rights violations out the fucking whizwa and fucking are
• 1:30:36
  chopping up journalists and imprisoning people for eh free
• 1:30:41
  speech for expressing their lifestyles that go against their
• 1:30:45
  culture. And it's a hypocrite.
• 1:30:49
  It's a hypocritical move. And if you look at anything that
• 1:30:52
  Bill Burr has put out in the weeks since eh, the September
• 1:30:58
  October Riyadh Comedy Festival and people are just like they're
• 1:31:03
  I went. I scrolled today out of like.
• 1:31:06
  Yeah, and. I didn't see one single a
• 1:31:10
  positive comment towards Bill Barr.
• 1:31:14
  It's crazy. And this this is the thing.
• 1:31:17
  And it's just like every, I know worry every, every man has his
• 1:31:20
  price like it's just a fact, like.
• 1:31:23
  Every man's got his price for the $1,000,000 man.
• 1:31:30
  You can. You can buy anyone.
• 1:31:32
  Like essentially no one is above being bought.
• 1:31:35
  But it's. Again.
• 1:31:42
  But it is, again, it's just a case of like just fucking say
• 1:31:44
  that. I I just, I would have more
• 1:31:47
  respect for you to say I yeah, I can't say no that.
• 1:31:51
  But like money is very important to me and that's a huge amount
• 1:31:54
  of money. Say that money is more important
• 1:31:56
  than my politics. That amount of money is more
• 1:31:59
  important than my politics. Fucking say that.
• 1:32:02
  I'd be like, you know what? Fine, you're at least you're
• 1:32:04
  honest about it. Tell me this, right, the stories
• 1:32:07
  of like, influencers going over there and getting shit on by by
• 1:32:12
  the wealthiness in. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:16
  Do you think there's a price for the likes of Bill Burr?
• 1:32:20
  Like if they said Billy, Billy Burr, Billy Big Head, you can
• 1:32:27
  come over here to Saudi Arabia, but we're all going to fucking
• 1:32:30
  take turns shating on you. Do you think there's a price
• 1:32:33
  there for a man like that? I.
• 1:32:34
  Think there's there is a price on any man for anything.
• 1:32:39
  I truly believe that it might be very, very high, but these
• 1:32:43
  influencers that are going over there, it's not the same
• 1:32:46
  bracket, right? It's and no one fucking cares.
• 1:32:49
  It's been proven that there's like Israeli companies that are
• 1:32:53
  like buying influencers like to say this, to say that, to not
• 1:32:58
  say this, to not say that, right?
• 1:33:01
  That these women who were going over there and getting shot on,
• 1:33:04
  they're not getting paid that much.
• 1:33:06
  Like I know a girl who has gone over there, right?
• 1:33:11
  Fuck it, she's not gonna listen. Redacted.
• 1:33:13
  Worked for Emirates airline right?
• 1:33:18
  Yeah, Alex, just blank out the word.
• 1:33:20
  Just I want, Alex, can you do me a favor because I've been
• 1:33:22
  trying, I've like wanted to say this for ages, but can you just
• 1:33:25
  record yourself saying? Redacted and just flip.
• 1:33:30
  That in yeah, like I just want. I just think that.
• 1:33:32
  Would be the best thing ever. Just like and then fucking.
• 1:33:35
  Redacted. On my arse came all the way in
• 1:33:38
  my fucking arse. I wasn't like I wasn't walking
• 1:33:41
  straight for a week and then. Redacted at the audience.
• 1:33:46
  Yeah, so she, she she worked for like Arab Emirates and she
• 1:33:51
  worked there or whatever. And like she was who are in the
• 1:33:54
  box off herself to these fucking like shakes or sheiks or
• 1:33:57
  whatever the fuck you're calling them, right.
• 1:33:59
  And everyone had been saying it, but she was just like, she would
• 1:34:05
  just be like, yeah, fuck you, whatever.
• 1:34:06
  It came up in conversation. I was like, yeah, sure, you're
• 1:34:08
  you're writing rings around yourself.
• 1:34:10
  And with the Saudis there, apparently she was like and I
• 1:34:13
  was like and. She was like.
• 1:34:17
  Would you say no to that money? To 50 KA night?
• 1:34:19
  Would you say no? Like. 50 KA night, she's like
• 1:34:23
  for a fucking pale blonde Irish girl, 50 KA night is a bad night
• 1:34:26
  for me and I'm just like. What is it fucking?
• 1:34:30
  Fair play to her. That's fine.
• 1:34:32
  If she had said that, that's fucking the Phil Burr is like,
• 1:34:35
  you know what? Yeah, I let them run a train on
• 1:34:37
  me for like 2 million and I built.
• 1:34:41
  You know what? Fair play to you.
• 1:34:43
  So I know someone personally who worked for Abrid.
• 1:34:47
  I keep saying Abrid Emirates Arab Emirates as an air Hostess
• 1:34:53
  who was essentially a high class hooker for the sheikhs.
• 1:34:59
  Sheikh. Is it Sheikh or Sheikh?
• 1:35:01
  I don't think the iron. Sheik.
• 1:35:03
  I think. But then you hear other.
• 1:35:05
  People say we, we say sheiks. Reason I feel.
• 1:35:08
  Like I'm being racist by saying chic.
• 1:35:09
  Chic sounds like a racist word. I don't.
• 1:35:13
  Maybe that's just me. Anyway to go back to the
• 1:35:14
  influencers? They're not even.
• 1:35:17
  They're not getting. Paid that much, That's about 10
• 1:35:20
  grand to have what they call a potty party now.
• 1:35:25
  I don't know about you. 10 grand for multiple.
• 1:35:29
  Men to shit on my chest. Over the course of the evening.
• 1:35:32
  That's not. Enough.
• 1:35:34
  Not for me. I wouldn't do it.
• 1:35:36
  Fucking Katie Price goes out there and does it.
• 1:35:38
  There's videos of that. There's proof of that She.
• 1:35:39
  Only got 10 grand for that whole party.
• 1:35:41
  That whole party, yeah, There's videos online over here.
• 1:35:45
  I don't believe it. Yeah, like.
• 1:35:47
  Yeah, she's. Making she's.
• 1:35:49
  Bankrupt. She's bankrupt.
• 1:35:52
  Because. She has like.
• 1:35:53
  Fucking horrible messy divorces with three.
• 1:35:55
  Different men and she's still paying off.
• 1:35:58
  She's got kids to support. She's got she's she's, she's
• 1:36:00
  bankrupt. 10 grand to have Jordan.
• 1:36:04
  Like remember when she was Jordan?
• 1:36:06
  Go out and shit on Jordan's chest?
• 1:36:09
  And now? She 10 grand for that and then
• 1:36:11
  in there's influencers or certain influencers that are
• 1:36:13
  making maybe fucking more than her.
• 1:36:15
  Can you say allegedly here that no, it's all there's a video?
• 1:36:20
  There's no There's a video that gets I've seen.
• 1:36:22
  Video. OK, so I'm going to say
• 1:36:25
  allegedly. Allegedly.
• 1:36:28
  Allegedly. Allegedly.
• 1:36:30
  OK, I like to just. Record yourself thing.
• 1:36:32
  Allegedly. And so so any Azaria.
• 1:36:41
  Comedy Festival that was that happened.
• 1:36:47
  Yeah, right. Which products are over?
• 1:36:49
  In America, these products are over.
• 1:36:52
  In America, they're not really doing much in the way of
• 1:36:54
  celebrations, but something spectacularly magical happens.
• 1:37:01
  This lovely, magical time, there was an influx.
• 1:37:05
  Of. Irish people into America?
• 1:37:08
  I wonder what could have caused that?
• 1:37:11
  Or beats me. Oh no, sorry.
• 1:37:13
  It pity it was me because it was the Irish Famine, or as we like
• 1:37:18
  to call it, the Irish Holocaust. The Great.
• 1:37:22
  Yeah. And it wasn't, it wasn't the, IT
• 1:37:25
  was disturbing, basically. Yes, it was OK.
• 1:37:29
  Like so just through this quick disclaimer, no Irish person.
• 1:37:32
  Can mention famine. Without saying that the famine
• 1:37:34
  wasn't actually a famine, it was a Holocaust.
• 1:37:36
  The blight did hit all of you. It took out there was the Irish
• 1:37:40
  people at the time were. Highly.
• 1:37:42
  Reliant on potatoes. It's not because we're stupid
• 1:37:45
  and we just like eating potatoes.
• 1:37:46
  It's because at the time, the British, who were colonizing us,
• 1:37:49
  yeah, were trying to kill all of the Irish people so that they
• 1:37:53
  could repopulate Ireland with their landed Gentry.
• 1:37:57
  The English people, the Lords to come over and take over the
• 1:37:59
  land. So they were taking away all of
• 1:38:02
  the good Irish food. We still had beautiful,
• 1:38:07
  beautiful pigs and cows and all kinds of stuff.
• 1:38:11
  We weren't allowed to fish. Ireland is an island, we know
• 1:38:15
  it's an island. We couldn't get out there to
• 1:38:17
  actually fish without the Brits killing off people and taking
• 1:38:23
  whatever the cat they had held up by soldiers and all of this
• 1:38:28
  food we were forced to harvest and.
• 1:38:30
  Put onto their boats and send it back to them.
• 1:38:33
  Put onto boats and shipped back over to England and eh,
• 1:38:37
  anything. That was coming in like eh
• 1:38:39
  America and some other eh places felt bad for Ireland.
• 1:38:44
  They heard about the starving. They didn't know that we were
• 1:38:46
  being starved. They just thought we were dumb
• 1:38:49
  Irish Hicks, eh, starving ourselves because we only eat
• 1:38:53
  potatoes and they sent boats from America, from France, from
• 1:38:58
  all over the world. And those eh, were intercepted
• 1:39:02
  by the Brits and they just took all that food as well.
• 1:39:05
  And anyways that's can I just before we move on for that, I do
• 1:39:10
  just want to say it's really. Quick, I promise.
• 1:39:13
  And but it's described as like Paddy Wack in the show is, but
• 1:39:16
  it's the House of Guinness, that new show.
• 1:39:18
  And is, is really, really good. And it does go into the famine a
• 1:39:22
  little bit and how they kind of had no idea what was going on
• 1:39:26
  beyond Dublin because the rich bricks never did back then.
• 1:39:29
  But yeah, it is if you know nothing about it and you're not
• 1:39:32
  from Ireland, because there's a lot of historical inaccuracy.
• 1:39:37
  What House of Guinness, It'll give you a rough idea of it.
• 1:39:39
  Because that woman from Fair City, that everyone, that's
• 1:39:42
  that's the thing everyone knows her from.
• 1:39:43
  She's an old hag in the starving village that tells the story of
• 1:39:48
  it. Which woman?
• 1:39:49
  Oh, what was she? She had the black hair.
• 1:39:52
  I think she was the criminal. She was a.
• 1:39:54
  She was a she. I was in a movie with her 1° of
• 1:39:58
  Justice one. Degree of justice.
• 1:40:00
  I was. Was it me?
• 1:40:01
  The black hair and the the dark, the black in eyebrows, Yes.
• 1:40:06
  Yeah, yeah. Sorry.
• 1:40:07
  That just oh. I have to.
• 1:40:09
  I have to Google it now do me a favor.
• 1:40:10
  Yeah, and Goo and when you're doing it, IMDb her and see if.
• 1:40:14
  She was in that left the wrong one in the movie I was in
• 1:40:17
  anyways, that's that's the famine.
• 1:40:19
  While Danny's doing that, I want to get back to Halloween because
• 1:40:23
  we have been here a while. And so the Irish came to America
• 1:40:28
  and with them, they brought the customs from Halloween back over
• 1:40:33
  there. The Protestants that were living
• 1:40:35
  there, we're not celebrating it in the same way.
• 1:40:38
  But the Irish, and to a lesser extent of Scott, Hilda, Ray,
• 1:40:43
  Hilda. Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:40:45
  OK, Sorry, Hilda. Faye, I was.
• 1:40:47
  I was. In there, Sultan, Yeah.
• 1:40:49
  Look at her. Look at.
• 1:40:51
  Her. And.
• 1:40:53
  Movies her. IMDb and tell me is she left the
• 1:40:56
  wrong one in Hilda as the yeah I was in a movie there.
• 1:40:58
  I, I Chad to her. You see, I love her.
• 1:41:03
  I only know we're from Fair City.
• 1:41:05
  And I was like, literally. She's just that person.
• 1:41:07
  I was like she puffed up and I was like, oh, she's from Fair
• 1:41:09
  City because my mom used to watch it all the time and I was
• 1:41:11
  like, don't know who she played. Well, I know who she but I don't
• 1:41:14
  know the name of the person she played.
• 1:41:15
  I think it was nieve or something.
• 1:41:17
  I don't know. She doesn't have an IMDb.
• 1:41:24
  Well, I guess she's in. Letter on one in sure.
• 1:41:27
  Go on. Yeah, whatever.
• 1:41:29
  And yeah, the Irish came over to America, and with them they
• 1:41:32
  brought the. Celebrations of.
• 1:41:33
  Halloween. The way we would kind of know it
• 1:41:36
  now and well, well, not quite yet.
• 1:41:39
  So when they come over, eh, it's, they're, they're all
• 1:41:44
  coming over like from the, the famine happened in the 18 and
• 1:41:51
  the Eighties, 40s and 50s. So the Irish.
• 1:41:55
  All eh came over. And.
• 1:41:58
  Umm Originally what they would bring with them is the old kind
• 1:42:03
  of Irish traditions of ghost stories and fortune telling and
• 1:42:10
  playing pranks. This was a big one.
• 1:42:12
  The playing pranks became a big one.
• 1:42:14
  I love a prank and by like let's say.
• 1:42:19
  Let's. Say it wasn't the family
• 1:42:22
  friendly affair that we would. Have now.
• 1:42:24
  So what happened is the, these Irish came over and they were
• 1:42:27
  kind of a little bit poor, eh, it wasn't a great time for them
• 1:42:32
  that the Great Depression was kind of happening.
• 1:42:35
  And in the early 1900s, eh, they, they were now needing an
• 1:42:42
  excuse to kind of rebel and to kind of freak out.
• 1:42:46
  And this Halloween celebration kind of became that day because
• 1:42:50
  let's face it, we were all wearing kind of homemade
• 1:42:54
  costumes and no one was seeing who we were and we were all
• 1:42:58
  fucking Jarred up and drinking the whiskey.
• 1:43:00
  And so let's get into the developments.
• 1:43:02
  Like it was about mischief. Like back back.
• 1:43:05
  I love that word. The different back in them days
• 1:43:09
  they. Kind of changed the the.
• 1:43:12
  Night. To Mischief Night and it became
• 1:43:14
  this kind of purge night where you know, they weren't around
• 1:43:18
  killing anyone, but they were causing absolute havoc.
• 1:43:21
  So what they would do is they would, uh, go on, uh, like the
• 1:43:25
  small things were would be like taking someone's cart and
• 1:43:29
  dismantling it and putting on the roof of a shade and making
• 1:43:32
  it again. And then they'd run off going ha
• 1:43:34
  ha ha ha. But the kind of big harmless the
• 1:43:38
  the big destruction of property. So they would.
• 1:43:41
  Have been like. Smashing.
• 1:43:42
  Out windows and. By.
• 1:43:44
  Like maybe the, the the NTH degree would have been, they
• 1:43:46
  were like burning down places and this was getting kind of out
• 1:43:51
  of hand. And every year it was getting a
• 1:43:53
  little bit worse. And it was kind of a way for
• 1:43:57
  them to like let off steam with the protests, like people who
• 1:44:00
  had money as well. So they'd smash like, like, uh,
• 1:44:05
  local businesses in their towns and stuff like that were like,
• 1:44:08
  well, just like smash the windows out.
• 1:44:09
  And you know, I was a little bit of jealousy as well.
• 1:44:12
  I suppose these, uh, these kind of poor Irish immigrants and
• 1:44:16
  everybody else, I suppose would have joined in because like
• 1:44:19
  that's the crack that was happening.
• 1:44:20
  So it became this mischief night.
• 1:44:22
  And, uh, in the America, they, they decided like, we have to
• 1:44:26
  change this, Like this has to actually change.
• 1:44:29
  So it became like a conscious effort in kind of kind of cities
• 1:44:34
  and bigger towns to kind of change the look of Halloween.
• 1:44:40
  So they made it more family friendly and they started having
• 1:44:43
  things like Halloween parades and like costume competitions
• 1:44:50
  and things like this making it more wholesome.
• 1:44:52
  And they kind of out in the suburbs.
• 1:44:55
  What was happening now was they were kind of communities were
• 1:45:02
  kind of building up and there were.
• 1:45:04
  Not, not quite like. In the cities where everybody
• 1:45:07
  was kind of, uh, we didn't really know each other outside
• 1:45:12
  of their own little communities, but when it came to the suburbs,
• 1:45:15
  they were now making these kind of man made communities where
• 1:45:19
  people all kind of got along. And, you know, as we kind of
• 1:45:23
  said before, you've got these places where white picket fences
• 1:45:25
  and everyone is proper and, and nice.
• 1:45:28
  And what they've done here is to keep people away from the
• 1:45:30
  mischief that kind of made it more wholesome.
• 1:45:33
  And this was actually like a conscious effort from town
• 1:45:36
  councils and stuff like that to like, OK, we've got to get ahead
• 1:45:39
  of this and we've got to make mischief kind of go away.
• 1:45:43
  And this is where the the likes of trick or treating woulda
• 1:45:47
  woulda came in, where the old tradition of Souling, as we were
• 1:45:51
  talking about, kind of got reintroduced, it would seem.
• 1:45:57
  And instead of this time kids coming around for, for like,
• 1:46:04
  praying for souls, now, it was kind of a bribe.
• 1:46:11
  So trick or treatment? Yeah, it wasn't.
• 1:46:13
  Like I'm gonna. You give me a treat I and I'll
• 1:46:18
  have like tricks for basically give me a treat or I'll fuck
• 1:46:21
  you. Up.
• 1:46:21
  Yeah, so. I was like, give me a treat or
• 1:46:23
  I'm a. Fuck this place up.
• 1:46:25
  I'm like it's. Going to turn back and
• 1:46:27
  misgivably and that's kind of eh, what would have what would
• 1:46:32
  have came eh, what would have became trick or treating.
• 1:46:36
  So trick or treating isn't actually it's a term that rig
• 1:46:39
  really only kind of became popular since like the somewhere
• 1:46:45
  in and around the between the 20s and the 50s maybe yes,
• 1:46:50
  Danny, I have to pee. I have to pee.
• 1:46:52
  Hold that fault. Don't even know where I.
• 1:46:59
  Was Danny? I really had to piss.
• 1:47:02
  I'm sorry. I'm sorry so.
• 1:47:05
  Halloween. The Irish.
• 1:47:12
  People playing tricks. And.
• 1:47:14
  And stuff. On the.
• 1:47:16
  Rich. Neighborhood.
• 1:47:17
  Basically we got a trick or treating from the.
• 1:47:21
  Idea of this being a mischief night and they're making it
• 1:47:26
  wholesome and all that shit, and then it became a swapping.
• 1:47:33
  Tricks. For treats, so you now got a
• 1:47:36
  treat and you'd leave people alone and you wouldn't fuck up
• 1:47:39
  their whole property or whatever they had.
• 1:47:44
  So let's get into like, like kind of different ideas around
• 1:47:49
  Halloween that would be now kind of seen as very American, but
• 1:47:52
  would also have kind of come from old folklore and stuff.
• 1:47:57
  So what we associate Halloween with now is like is costumes.
• 1:48:02
  And of course, we were already talking about costumes being a
• 1:48:08
  way to kind of disguise yourself while you were smashing things
• 1:48:11
  up. But the costumes also predated
• 1:48:14
  that to being like from Celtic tradition, open to the murmurs
• 1:48:18
  and stuff like that. But if you think about the time
• 1:48:23
  we're at now, we're at the early 20th century and cinema is
• 1:48:29
  becoming prevalent. So pop culture actually starts
• 1:48:34
  to have an influence on Halloween fairly early.
• 1:48:38
  You've got things like the the Gothic writings that would have
• 1:48:43
  happened in Britain and Europe like a couple of centuries,
• 1:48:49
  maybe just a century before before this, where you get the
• 1:48:54
  likes of Frankenstein. And obviously as Irish people we
• 1:49:01
  know all about Dracula written by Bram Stalker, Big Bram.
• 1:49:06
  Those are kind of like the two big ones.
• 1:49:08
  But there's also like. Stories about.
• 1:49:10
  Wolfman and all kinds of these, like monsters and ghosts and
• 1:49:17
  ghouls and things like that. And with the kind of with the
• 1:49:24
  movies becoming so popular now, the obvious thing would be Go
• 1:49:29
  and the talkies this kind of IP even before.
• 1:49:35
  The Talkies. When it was just the silent
• 1:49:37
  movies, we had movies with these monsters, and this obviously was
• 1:49:43
  able to capture the imagination of people having these horror
• 1:49:47
  movies, these monster movies happen.
• 1:49:49
  You could now visualize these monsters from these old stories
• 1:49:54
  that were repurposed into gothic novels and then into movies
• 1:50:01
  basically. And, you know, you had the likes
• 1:50:04
  of vampires and werewolves and Frankensteins and you could now
• 1:50:08
  visualize what these things were.
• 1:50:10
  And now we can make our own costumes.
• 1:50:12
  And people were like Halloween was now back to becoming the
• 1:50:16
  celebration of monsters and ghouls.
• 1:50:19
  But it was heavily influenced by pop culture pretty pretty early
• 1:50:26
  as well. And so that's why we have the,
• 1:50:30
  the likes of the pop culture costumes coming into play.
• 1:50:34
  And with that, eh, and with umm, the people exchanging treats for
• 1:50:41
  tricks now was a way to monetize for businesses.
• 1:50:46
  So if you think about it, if you're kind of like a big
• 1:50:50
  business, I don't know what they are at the time.
• 1:50:52
  Like if you've got like Sears or whatever it is, these guys who
• 1:50:57
  are eh, Sears, like, I don't know, I don't know what America
• 1:51:00
  had at the time, but like gimbals, gimbals is gone.
• 1:51:04
  Just I don't know what these. Places are your.
• 1:51:08
  Gimbals. They would have capitalized.
• 1:51:10
  On the fact that people were. Dressing up for.
• 1:51:12
  Halloween. So then.
• 1:51:13
  They started mass. Producing.
• 1:51:14
  Halloween costumes. And this is when also instead of
• 1:51:19
  like handing out things like candied apples and balls of
• 1:51:24
  popcorn that you are now able to capitalize on this.
• 1:51:29
  And companies like the Mars company, Reese's and Hershey's
• 1:51:36
  started mass producing candies for the likes of Halloween.
• 1:51:40
  So if we didn't have Halloween, I don't know if we would have
• 1:51:42
  the same kind of introduction to mass produced candies and also
• 1:51:48
  mass produced costumes. So that that's kind of where
• 1:51:53
  that came. And and again, you've got the
• 1:51:57
  likes of witches as well. So if you think we go back to to
• 1:52:02
  puritanical and puritanical America, where they all went mad
• 1:52:08
  with these witch trials, They had this image of the witch,
• 1:52:12
  which was this like hag who had a broom and a cauldron.
• 1:52:17
  Everybody had a broom and a cauldron back in the day.
• 1:52:19
  And most places would have, would have cats as well, because
• 1:52:22
  you wanted to keep the the rodents out of your house.
• 1:52:23
  So they did have a cat knocking around.
• 1:52:25
  But this kind of image of the witch kind of stuck and because
• 1:52:31
  it was from that era. So this eh broom raiding eh
• 1:52:36
  portion in the cauldron making a hag with her black cat kind of.
• 1:52:41
  It was also single women as well.
• 1:52:44
  It was like, well, this was it, the.
• 1:52:46
  Whole. Horror behind, of course, I was
• 1:52:49
  single Danny they. Were ugly ugly.
• 1:52:50
  Bitches, thank you, I feel. Great about this episode.
• 1:52:56
  Look at me, Lord. Hope like I've been like a happy
• 1:52:59
  single for like 2 years. Me and my.
• 1:53:02
  Cat in my tiny. Apartment with my cauldron and.
• 1:53:05
  My broom, it's fine, whatever, I don't even care.
• 1:53:09
  These kind of mainstay, kind of. Ghosts and ghouls and monsters
• 1:53:16
  that were coming from folklore were now entered into like when
• 1:53:21
  when could you talk about witches?
• 1:53:23
  On the same kind of time you could talk about everything else
• 1:53:25
  spooky and weird. And it was Halloween and it was
• 1:53:29
  a kind of a this time that people started getting into more
• 1:53:32
  of the like I'm I'm a dress up like a sexy witch, you know, not
• 1:53:37
  and not like, you know, like you have the legs of bewitched.
• 1:53:39
  Well, eh, Samantha becomes a sexy witch and she's not this
• 1:53:42
  old hag that people were kind of thinking of and eh, so I don't
• 1:53:46
  know, that's the side of the sexy witches, the side of the
• 1:53:49
  sexy, eh, costumes. But you know, it could be as
• 1:53:52
  it's as good as dresses as Andy really how how Irish my Britain
• 1:53:56
  is when you were like, oh, like Samantha and Bewitched.
• 1:53:58
  I was like there was no. Samantha in Bewitched, thinking
• 1:54:02
  of the band Gas. If I like me there.
• 1:54:07
  And. Here's.
• 1:54:14
  Here's. A big.
• 1:54:15
  Tradition. In, let's say, I'll go through
• 1:54:17
  some actually smaller. Traditions as well that kind of
• 1:54:19
  aren't as prevalent anymore, but the Irish brought over and some
• 1:54:23
  kind of games with them that you would have seen like like the
• 1:54:28
  likes of bobbing for apples. I think the more Irish version
• 1:54:31
  of a would have been having the dangling apples from the the
• 1:54:34
  strings. Well, the likes of bobbing for
• 1:54:37
  apples or I forget what the the slacking.
• 1:54:42
  I forget what they did the the apples dangling were that what
• 1:54:46
  the name of that one is, But it was well, that's the dangling
• 1:54:49
  apples is more hygienic than the bobbing.
• 1:54:51
  The bobbing was fucking disgusting.
• 1:54:53
  Yeah, everybody. Put in their faces like water,
• 1:54:55
  but like slobbering all over apples.
• 1:54:57
  And then you. Still, you just still just put
• 1:54:59
  them back in the fucking. Thing.
• 1:55:01
  Anyway, I'm sorry, but yeah, the idea of this, this kind of.
• 1:55:07
  Bobbing for apples actually had significance.
• 1:55:09
  So when you had like a small communities and a match, may a
• 1:55:16
  way of matchmaking Halloween would have been you've carved
• 1:55:19
  the initials of one of the single girls in the town into
• 1:55:22
  the back of an apple. I didn't know that.
• 1:55:24
  And the guys will go bobbing for the apples and whoever they
• 1:55:27
  pulled out, that's who they were.
• 1:55:28
  Going to get. Matched up with to get an apple
• 1:55:30
  make. Oh, for fuck's sake.
• 1:55:33
  Yeah, Goody Thomas. Anyone want to swap?
• 1:55:38
  She's. Definitely got a broom and a.
• 1:55:40
  Cauldron. And a.
• 1:55:41
  Swappy Thomas for Murphy come. Here.
• 1:55:45
  So yeah, those kind. Of traditions.
• 1:55:48
  There was. Also, like when you were bobbing
• 1:55:50
  for apples, there was kind of a significance to when you were
• 1:55:53
  able to get it, like we were talking about with the the
• 1:55:56
  different symbols in the barren brack and what they meant.
• 1:55:59
  But Bob and for apples also meant the same thing.
• 1:56:01
  If you could get the apple in one bite, you're going to get
• 1:56:04
  married within the year. If you got it in two, you are
• 1:56:07
  going to have a marriage, but it wasn't going to be happy.
• 1:56:11
  And if you got it in three, you're going to be single for
• 1:56:16
  the year again until next Halloween.
• 1:56:18
  You know, this kind of these kind of traditions and but one
• 1:56:22
  of the biggest traditions that we have.
• 1:56:25
  And one of the biggest? Symbols is pumpkin carving so
• 1:56:29
  the the Jack O Lantern is like this amazing tradition in
• 1:56:37
  America where we could open a pumpkin.
• 1:56:40
  We style the pumpkin into the fashion of like a scary face or,
• 1:56:46
  or these days you could kind of stencil anything on your
• 1:56:49
  pumpkins. That was become a very
• 1:56:51
  elaborate. Yeah, there's like a, There's a
• 1:56:54
  whole like a. People's Etsy.
• 1:56:57
  Shops. Thriver in this.
• 1:56:58
  Time of year because they. Like design these cool stencils
• 1:57:01
  that you can buy and like have themed pumpkins, which I think
• 1:57:04
  is is great. Like Elise has her own pumpkin
• 1:57:07
  carving kit. Yeah, which is pretty funny.
• 1:57:09
  I like, I like, you know, carving a pumpkin.
• 1:57:13
  As like. An activity.
• 1:57:14
  Yeah, she she loves things like that and like our building is
• 1:57:18
  doing like a Halloween party the.
• 1:57:19
  Sheriff's because it falls. On the Friday.
• 1:57:21
  On the 31st and then on the 30th, there's like a pumping
• 1:57:24
  pumpkin carving competition. And they're like, Elise is here
• 1:57:28
  so much now that normally the events are just for residents,
• 1:57:31
  but she's just like, they e-mail her about it now.
• 1:57:34
  So they're like, she found that there was like a pumpkin carving
• 1:57:37
  thing. And she was like, Oh my God, are
• 1:57:38
  we doing this? And I was like, I don't know if
• 1:57:40
  I'm going to be free or OK, well, I'm going to enter the
• 1:57:43
  competition and just use your apartment number.
• 1:57:46
  And I was like, OK. And she was like, we should do
• 1:57:50
  it together. And I was like, I'll watch you
• 1:57:52
  carve a pumpkin. While I drink that's.
• 1:57:54
  Fine. And she's like, OK, but yeah,
• 1:57:58
  no, I I do get why it's fun. I like.
• 1:58:00
  Watching it but I do get why people like.
• 1:58:02
  Doing it you have to have a strong wrist and patience and I
• 1:58:05
  just have a strong wrist to no patience so I can't do it.
• 1:58:10
  OK, more more information. On any sex life.
• 1:58:17
  Pumpkin. You brought out there like
• 1:58:19
  pumpkin carving pumpkin. Carving is a.
• 1:58:24
  Tradition. That would have originated in
• 1:58:27
  Ireland. This is weird though.
• 1:58:30
  There's no pumpkins in Ireland. How is that just the I hear you
• 1:58:34
  all saying, well, in Ireland we didn't actually carve pumpkins.
• 1:58:38
  Eh, it's, it's eh, also like a, a European thing, eh, They would
• 1:58:43
  have carved turnips And so an expensive kind of a, a Lantern
• 1:58:49
  would be a metal Lantern. Ireland not very rich people.
• 1:58:54
  So what they would do is cut out a root vegetable.
• 1:58:57
  Turnip is a nice Hardy vegetable.
• 1:59:00
  So if you cut the turnip, you take out the contents, cut a few
• 1:59:04
  holes in it, you've got yourself something.
• 1:59:06
  That will hold. An ember and will work as a nice
• 1:59:11
  kind of organic makeshift Lantern.
• 1:59:14
  And this is what we would have, we would have called a Lantern
• 1:59:18
  back in the days just carved out turnip.
• 1:59:21
  Now the carving of the turnip into a ghostly kind of a skull
• 1:59:30
  face would have come from in and around Halloween, people will
• 1:59:35
  tell the story because like again, in Ireland folklore, we
• 1:59:39
  talk, we tell a lot of ghost stories.
• 1:59:41
  We've talked about this before about our, we have like banshees
• 1:59:46
  and leprechauns and Celtons and things like that.
• 1:59:50
  And we love telling the ghost story.
• 1:59:52
  But the, there's a particular story that has influenced
• 1:59:56
  Halloween more than any other story.
• 2:00:00
  And this is the story of stingy Jack.
• 2:00:02
  So stingy Jack is an old Irish folklore.
• 2:00:07
  He's also called Drunken Jack or I'm thinking I've dated both.
• 2:00:11
  I'm pretty sure 03/3 for three. And so this Jack was.
• 2:00:19
  A terrible. Terrible.
• 2:00:21
  Occur a. Scourge.
• 2:00:23
  He was apparently a blacksmith, but as his names would let you
• 2:00:29
  know, he was an unsavory character, a kind of a guy who
• 2:00:33
  just undesirable and yeah, an undesirable.
• 2:00:36
  Exactly Danny, he went out and got.
• 2:00:38
  Drunk. He didn't care about anybody
• 2:00:40
  else. He didn't care about anybody's
• 2:00:42
  property. He lied, he cheated.
• 2:00:46
  He Stei, he stole. He he would do all right.
• 2:00:53
  He's Celtic. He he he is sorry that I got
• 2:00:59
  half said a word wrong Danny, but.
• 2:01:01
  Stingy. Jack.
• 2:01:04
  I'm drunk enough to find it hilarious.
• 2:01:05
  I'm sorry, Stingy Jack. We've come to.
• 2:01:08
  The. Point of the podcast where I now
• 2:01:10
  have to. Keep Danny, you're carrying it.
• 2:01:13
  Machine is giddy, drunk and. Stingy Jack.
• 2:01:18
  One day was. He was came upon by the devil.
• 2:01:23
  And me, every fucking Sunday night.
• 2:01:30
  And he? Don't after a game.
• 2:01:33
  I shouldn't have worded it like. That and.
• 2:01:36
  But the. Devil jumped.
• 2:01:38
  Out in front of him in in the middle of the road and the devil
• 2:01:42
  said Stingy Jack it's time for you to come to hell and you've
• 2:01:47
  been bad all your life and literally it's time for you to
• 2:01:52
  come to hell with me. And stingy Jack said I I will do
• 2:02:00
  but but you have to do me a favor 1st.
• 2:02:05
  And I don't know why you did that.
• 2:02:08
  That was like you. I know, I don't know why the
• 2:02:11
  devil did this, but. Stingy, Jack said.
• 2:02:14
  I have. To.
• 2:02:15
  I have to pay my way in into into hell, as is tradition.
• 2:02:22
  So could you turn yourself into a coin and I can pay with you?
• 2:02:26
  And the devil for some reason said, yeah, I think the devil
• 2:02:29
  kind of admired Jack a little bit.
• 2:02:31
  I think the devil was like, this guy is the kind of guy I want to
• 2:02:34
  help this little prick. He's a dirty bastard.
• 2:02:38
  And I'm going to, I'm going to give him.
• 2:02:40
  Grant him this request. And he turned into a coin and
• 2:02:45
  jumped into Stingy Jack's hand. And Stingy Jack put the devil in
• 2:02:51
  his pocket beside a crucifix. And the devil Stingy Jack.
• 2:02:58
  Stingy Jack had. Tricked the devil.
• 2:03:01
  And the. Devil in his.
• 2:03:02
  All his coiny wisdom was like, let me out, let me out here,
• 2:03:05
  Jack. And Jack said not until you let
• 2:03:09
  me live for another year. And the devil said right, OK,
• 2:03:14
  you've made a deal with the fucking queer fella And, and I
• 2:03:20
  respect it. That's it.
• 2:03:22
  You've you've got another that wouldn't fly.
• 2:03:24
  Of art. So now the stingy.
• 2:03:28
  Jack knows that. He's going to.
• 2:03:29
  Hell, do you think that stingy Jack?
• 2:03:31
  Is going to use. This year of his life to kind of
• 2:03:36
  repent, repent and say like also I need to get into heaven, I
• 2:03:40
  need to get into heaven. So.
• 2:03:42
  I better be good. No Stingy Jack dobles down and
• 2:03:44
  goes fucking. He's like I have literally got
• 2:03:47
  the devil in my pocket every now and again so I am going to go
• 2:03:50
  fucking balls to the wall. And he had the worst, most
• 2:03:53
  departures year of his life. And a year came and went and.
• 2:04:01
  The devil showed up again, and he.
• 2:04:03
  Said stingy. You have been a worse back than
• 2:04:06
  you ever were. You better pack your fucking
• 2:04:10
  bags. You are coming to hell with me.
• 2:04:13
  This, this is it. This is Game Timer Cindy, Jack
• 2:04:16
  said. All right, all right, but you
• 2:04:19
  got me. You got me.
• 2:04:21
  All right, Lucy, you got me. But I tell you what.
• 2:04:25
  I'm I can only, I'm fucking, he goes.
• 2:04:29
  I'm fucking, I'm starving. I'm absolutely.
• 2:04:32
  Starving. And would you pluck me an apple
• 2:04:36
  from that tree there? And I'll be on me.
• 2:04:40
  I'll I'll have the apple and I'll be on my way into level
• 2:04:42
  goals. You know what, Jack?
• 2:04:45
  You seem all right. I'm going to pluck yet this out.
• 2:04:49
  You seem like the kind. Of Guy.
• 2:04:50
  So the devil again turns and goes to pluck the apple, which I
• 2:04:56
  think is very symbolic, by the way.
• 2:04:58
  And as he's doing this. Yeah, who was prepared?
• 2:05:01
  He knew the year was coming, so he pulls out.
• 2:05:04
  A bunch. Of crucifixes out of his pocket
• 2:05:06
  and surrounds the tree. Surrounds the tree and
• 2:05:10
  crucifixes that the devil is a is is.
• 2:05:12
  Plucking this apple. From and it ever turns around
• 2:05:15
  and goes ah fuck. Oh my God I hope no one will
• 2:05:18
  call this bollocks. Don't put this on TikTok.
• 2:05:21
  So the devil is absolutely fucking and and Jack Jack.
• 2:05:31
  Says to the. Devil, I let you out if you give
• 2:05:35
  me another year and the devil says you've got me, you've got
• 2:05:41
  me. So a year comes and goes again,
• 2:05:48
  and this time Jack knows. His days are numbered.
• 2:05:53
  He is falling ill and he dies and he marches up to the pearly
• 2:06:04
  gates to the the devil obviously doesn't show up, obviously is
• 2:06:07
  done with him. So Jack matches up to the early
• 2:06:10
  gates and he goes, God, as you can see, the devil doesn't want
• 2:06:15
  me. I'm coming in.
• 2:06:16
  And God says yeah. And your fucking little
• 2:06:18
  bollocks. You've been an absolute who are
• 2:06:20
  all your life. You're not coming in here.
• 2:06:23
  And Cindy, Jack goes off Fuck. So he goes back down to the
• 2:06:28
  earthly realm. And he's like, oh.
• 2:06:30
  What's? What's going on?
• 2:06:33
  I'm going to Oh no, I'm going to be walking around here with no
• 2:06:36
  purpose for the rest of my life. This is going this is a
• 2:06:39
  bollocks. So he actually heads down to
• 2:06:42
  hell now where I don't know where this guy is getting there
• 2:06:45
  like maybe he's because he's in between the the 2 worlds.
• 2:06:47
  He can go to heaven, hell or whatever he likes, but I there's
• 2:06:52
  somewhere in fucking. He's probably an expert, but he.
• 2:06:55
  He. He makes there's a lot of hell.
• 2:06:59
  He probably is. The basement didn't.
• 2:07:01
  Lock the hall, I guarantee it's way.
• 2:07:02
  Down to hell. And he says to Satan, Satan.
• 2:07:06
  Listen, I know, I know, what a deal, but I would rather be in
• 2:07:11
  hell than be wandering aimlessly on the mortal plan for the rest
• 2:07:16
  of my life. Let us see.
• 2:07:19
  And I'm ready to come. And the devil looks out at.
• 2:07:23
  Him and says. Oh, rotten.
• 2:07:26
  Cunt. You tricked me.
• 2:07:29
  There's absolutely no way you're coming in here.
• 2:07:32
  And he says what I. Will do this for you.
• 2:07:35
  He takes some embers from the fires of hell and he puts them
• 2:07:39
  into a Lantern, calves out of a pumpkin or out of a sorry a
• 2:07:44
  turnip, drops it into the turnip and hands it to Jack.
• 2:07:48
  So now Jack of the Lantern or Jack O Lantern.
• 2:07:52
  I love this story is wandering around the Irish countryside.
• 2:07:57
  Now. In Ireland, we've, I think we've
• 2:07:59
  talked about this before in Ireland, because we've got bogs,
• 2:08:02
  we have a phenomena known as a in some, I think in, in Rome,
• 2:08:09
  they called it a fool's fire. We were counted as the will of
• 2:08:15
  the wisp, this little Faye goblin that is running around
• 2:08:20
  with and he lights fires and because that's his thing, he's
• 2:08:24
  called the will of the Wisp and he lights fires, but also it was
• 2:08:26
  attributed to Jack O Lantern, Jack of the Lantern.
• 2:08:30
  So if around Halloween, uh, in rural Ireland on these bogs,
• 2:08:34
  when you've seen these, uh, just because there's like methane gas
• 2:08:38
  and different kind of chemicals coming out of the bog.
• 2:08:42
  Yeah. Now and again they would ignite
• 2:08:44
  and light a little fire and people would see them from a
• 2:08:46
  distance and they would say around Halloween that that's
• 2:08:50
  Jack O Lantern wandering around with his soul for all of the
• 2:08:55
  turn. I love that.
• 2:08:56
  So I love that story. I've never heard that.
• 2:08:59
  I can't believe. I've never heard it.
• 2:09:01
  Yes. It's.
• 2:09:01
  Pretty good. So when we got to.
• 2:09:03
  A got to America. The Irish got to America.
• 2:09:05
  They were. Making Jack O lanterns out of
• 2:09:10
  turnips and discovered, holy shit, this, this big pumpkin
• 2:09:15
  looking thing is way easier to carve.
• 2:09:18
  And that's where we get the carvings of the pumpkins looking
• 2:09:23
  like evil heads. And we call it Jack O Lanterns.
• 2:09:27
  And even in America, I love that.
• 2:09:29
  Yeah, they've now made, they've now made Jack O Lantern, this
• 2:09:32
  scarecrow with the Lantern for the head kind of a thing.
• 2:09:37
  I do believe that they were having pumpkins eh way before.
• 2:09:41
  Like you know, anybody came like that then they have.
• 2:09:44
  So probably caravan pumpkins eh back years ago.
• 2:09:48
  But the Irish are the ones that brought over the idea of a
• 2:09:52
  Lantern and called it the Jack O Lantern.
• 2:09:55
  So that's eh when you see the lakes of eh these kind of eh
• 2:10:03
  cultural changes in. Halloween a lot.
• 2:10:06
  Of them did come from Ireland and that's what we are pretty
• 2:10:10
  proud of it and yeah so Halloween then kind of turned eh
• 2:10:15
  because it became umm like it's America were like you know big
• 2:10:22
  capitalist nation over there so they were going to monetize a
• 2:10:26
  lot of this stuff so the sad as I said mass produced in the
• 2:10:28
  candies mass produced in the costumes the costumes got better
• 2:10:32
  every year and then they started coming up with things like
• 2:10:35
  haunted houses Halloween parties and eh the horror movies became
• 2:10:43
  integrated into this as well so umm in the yeah 70s and kind of
• 2:10:48
  wait before. So before you get into that, I
• 2:10:52
  do just want to go back to the. To the Jack O Lantern story.
• 2:10:55
  And. So the Satan thing, he was very
• 2:10:58
  like kind of almost lenient to an extent with him and is
• 2:11:05
  really, really interesting because he is like depicted
• 2:11:07
  obviously like in the Christian writings and stuff like that as
• 2:11:11
  like the fucking be all end all of evil.
• 2:11:13
  And he's this fucking you know what I mean?
• 2:11:15
  That's the ultimate thing that you should be scared of.
• 2:11:18
  But in every single like demonology text, he's just a guy
• 2:11:24
  like he's just a people manager essentially who isn't working in
• 2:11:28
  like favor of the business. His job is to look after like so
• 2:11:32
  a delivery manager would look at the business where his job is
• 2:11:35
  like to look after the people. So he's very much like a soft
• 2:11:37
  touch like the Lightbringer Lucifer, like you what I mean.
• 2:11:42
  So it is just really funny how it's just like he can be so
• 2:11:45
  easily swayed to be like, dude, I trusted you, come on.
• 2:11:48
  Because that's like how he's like picked all the time.
• 2:11:51
  I think as well as that, like in Ireland, we like having the
• 2:11:55
  idea. That we can trick the devil.
• 2:11:58
  So yeah. And you can.
• 2:12:00
  You can. We kind of want the devil to be
• 2:12:03
  foolish. Like we're all more like we.
• 2:12:06
  We fear the devil like in in Ireland.
• 2:12:11
  I know like I grew up in a house that like we fear the devil.
• 2:12:14
  I didn't know he lived in my bedroom at the time but was just
• 2:12:20
  shooting in. The devil once lived in my
• 2:12:22
  house, and I don't think it. Was the devil.
• 2:12:24
  But. It sounded like it does.
• 2:12:29
  It did. Sound like Baphomet, Yeah.
• 2:12:33
  And the things that your your sister had said that he was
• 2:12:36
  saying did sound like Baphomet. But they're both very separate,
• 2:12:40
  separate demons. And like, if you go down into
• 2:12:42
  demonology and stuff and like the ultimate kind of be all end
• 2:12:45
  all that's taught to be the the king of hell is Satan, Lucifer.
• 2:12:49
  He's absolutely not like he will make the calls, but he's got big
• 2:12:54
  bastards behind him. That will be like, I'm gonna
• 2:12:58
  fucking slaughter this person and burn this village to the
• 2:13:00
  ground. And he's like.
• 2:13:02
  If you could hate you or to sign off on that, but you know what I
• 2:13:05
  mean? He's very much just like kind of
• 2:13:08
  the the mayor of this of, of hell basically, we'll say, and
• 2:13:13
  you've got other little demons that are like and essentially
• 2:13:17
  construction workers that are surly and angry about something.
• 2:13:20
  And they're just like. I'm going to go fuck this dude
• 2:13:22
  up. And then Satan's like, alright,
• 2:13:23
  fine. But yeah, it is, it is, it's,
• 2:13:27
  it's just funny. I know I'm, I will get back on
• 2:13:30
  to it. I'm just saying, I think it's
• 2:13:31
  really funny that like Satan, Lucifer or whatever you want to
• 2:13:33
  call him is always seen as the big bad where there's so much
• 2:13:36
  worse than him that he just has to be like, he doesn't deal with
• 2:13:41
  all of this. And it's like.
• 2:13:43
  It would. It sounds so funny that it's
• 2:13:45
  like that would be something that if you did just send
• 2:13:47
  Lucifer up to deal with, he'd be like, oh, you one more chance,
• 2:13:52
  you fucking stupid, Mick. That's fine.
• 2:13:56
  Yeah. Oh, you got me again, Jack, Why
• 2:14:00
  are you on? It.
• 2:14:01
  One of the most famous Irish sayings.
• 2:14:03
  Is. May be half an hour in heaven.
• 2:14:05
  Before. The devil knows you're dead.
• 2:14:06
  So like it's, it's one of those things that like in Irish
• 2:14:09
  culture is about like tricking the devil so that like you can
• 2:14:13
  get away from this. You're always 1.
• 2:14:15
  You have to keep one day ahead of the devil.
• 2:14:17
  That's kind of the idea here. And I think that's that that
• 2:14:21
  story kind of lent itself to your like, he met a fool of the
• 2:14:26
  devil in that story. But like, I don't know if that's
• 2:14:28
  yeah, you know, if that's really the way people would have viewed
• 2:14:33
  the devil. But like back in the day.
• 2:14:36
  And so we we can move on there like Jack with the Jack O
• 2:14:40
  Lantern. We'll we'll get into a now what
• 2:14:43
  Halloween has kind of become. So these haunted houses and the
• 2:14:50
  Halloween parties we talk about where to bring the old
• 2:14:52
  traditions in, that kind of stuff, trick or treating now is
• 2:14:55
  crazy, insane. Well, pop culture has kind of
• 2:14:58
  entered the fray. Yep.
• 2:15:01
  Not gonna go. No, I'm not going to cut you
• 2:15:03
  off. It's not.
• 2:15:03
  I just have a question to ask you.
• 2:15:05
  So the haunted houses. And stuff you've seen some of
• 2:15:07
  them like really intense, scary ones, unlike you have.
• 2:15:11
  What is it called? Like Mckamey, Mckamey Manor,
• 2:15:15
  those things, would you do? They're not a big thing in
• 2:15:17
  Ireland or the UK. Would you do one of those?
• 2:15:20
  Like would that be fun to you or would it be from my researchers?
• 2:15:23
  Over 4000 and I think that was probably, eh, a survey a few.
• 2:15:27
  Years ago or sort of probably way more there's over 4000 eh,
• 2:15:30
  paid haunted houses happening in in the USA, eh, every year.
• 2:15:36
  Yeah, which is like a massive number of of eh like I know of
• 2:15:40
  the USA as a big place, but like that's that's a massive number
• 2:15:42
  of of and how the houses so they're obviously and I in
• 2:15:47
  Ireland here we McKay me manner. Oh yeah, I've been to that.
• 2:15:51
  But like that's kind of. Just hot.
• 2:15:54
  Guys in masks. Like I have a thing for, for
• 2:15:56
  masked men. So they might not be hot, but
• 2:15:58
  they just like, but there are like certain haunted houses that
• 2:16:01
  you can go to and they have like levels of them in the States
• 2:16:03
  especially. And I know like my, my niece has
• 2:16:05
  recently been to 1. She's 18 now.
• 2:16:07
  I'm like, you can go to things. I'm so old, but yeah, there's
• 2:16:11
  like levels, so there's one there.
• 2:16:13
  It's just. Like you go.
• 2:16:14
  In if you have any phobias, you have to list them before and
• 2:16:17
  then they'll tell you if you can or can't because a lot of the
• 2:16:19
  time they're throwing live things at you or whatever.
• 2:16:22
  There's other things you can't go in.
• 2:16:24
  If you have like heart conditions, then you get to the
• 2:16:27
  ones where you have to sign like the waivers and stuff.
• 2:16:29
  And then you get to the likes of like Mckamey Manor, which for
• 2:16:32
  fucking insanity that it's still running, but that is more just
• 2:16:38
  like a fucking perverse, like people just want to test their
• 2:16:43
  own limits and how far they can. Go like that's.
• 2:16:46
  Yeah. And like it's a lot of the time
• 2:16:48
  they're like they're, it's a wait.
• 2:16:50
  List. It's a really.
• 2:16:51
  Fucking long wait list, but apparently the the timing like
• 2:16:56
  spikes are in Halloween because people want to do it for
• 2:16:59
  Halloween for whatever reason. But it's literally so Mckamey
• 2:17:04
  Manor. If you're not aware of it, we
• 2:17:05
  could do a whole episode on it. But it this guy is like an ex
• 2:17:08
  Marine and he's actually been held and tortured for I think
• 2:17:15
  several weeks. They kept him in a cell and
• 2:17:16
  tortured him in Iraq. So he knows what the fuck he's
• 2:17:19
  doing. He's brain damaged to fuck and
• 2:17:22
  to do this he's he's not been shut down because he takes every
• 2:17:26
  fucking legal box on how to get away with this.
• 2:17:30
  Like the the clause? That he has.
• 2:17:32
  You sign and it's like a document of like, I think it's
• 2:17:35
  like a hundred 150 pages. Ironclad fucking contract to be
• 2:17:40
  like, you might die. You might, you know, like
• 2:17:44
  whatever the fuck happens. You might like Ruin.
• 2:17:46
  A lot of your. Why are you staring?
• 2:17:48
  Are you frozen or you're just staring?
• 2:17:51
  I'm trying to talk about this. The haunted houses.
• 2:17:53
  Just let me get through it. And but basically.
• 2:17:55
  Unlike he, they do like horrible things, like people have almost
• 2:17:58
  died. No one's actually died.
• 2:18:00
  They've died after because they've killed themselves.
• 2:18:01
  Because one of his torture methods is to go through he went
• 2:18:05
  through this one guy's like social media, hacked into it,
• 2:18:08
  found that he was cheating, dangled all of the stuff on the
• 2:18:11
  screen was like flipping through the screen.
• 2:18:14
  All these text messages, all these sex tapes he made with
• 2:18:17
  this random girl to send them back to his wife can't be
• 2:18:20
  fucking what? It's real.
• 2:18:22
  You look it up, it's on them that you know showed.
• 2:18:25
  Also called Dark Tourist. On Netflix, Yeah goes to the
• 2:18:29
  yeah goes to the McKinney Manor House, McKinney.
• 2:18:32
  Manor, and he does it all the time.
• 2:18:34
  It's. A wait list do people go to like
• 2:18:36
  Tesla limits? Oh yeah, that instead of
• 2:18:39
  sleeping. Fantastic.
• 2:18:41
  Oh, it's so interesting, but. Yeah, basically he was.
• 2:18:43
  Like this this guy was like cheating on his fucking long.
• 2:18:46
  Term partner and he had like 3 kids and he was brought into a
• 2:18:49
  room and he was like, this isn't so bad.
• 2:18:50
  Like, you know, the whole like experience hasn't been that bad
• 2:18:53
  so far. It's been a bit like, you know,
• 2:18:55
  sensory deprivation and a bit panicky.
• 2:18:58
  He got sit in a chair, he's tied to the chair and just every
• 2:19:02
  fucking text. Him.
• 2:19:03
  And this woman have ever exchanged the sex tapes, the
• 2:19:07
  fucking pictures, everything. And then it was like on the
• 2:19:11
  screen, projected onto the screen, not like his wife's
• 2:19:14
  fucking e-mail address because an e-mail was being composed.
• 2:19:19
  All of these fucking images and videos are being dropped into
• 2:19:22
  this e-mail subject line. You should know about your
• 2:19:25
  husband and it's the the fucking object is to get you to be so
• 2:19:30
  fucking terrified that you just tap out and you don't get your
• 2:19:34
  money back. If you tap out, if you can make
• 2:19:36
  it all the way through until they're done with you, you get
• 2:19:39
  your money back. It's like $500 entry fucking fee
• 2:19:42
  or something or to to a grand and it's you're signing away
• 2:19:46
  your life. You're basically being like you
• 2:19:48
  have to have a medical exam to be like my heart won't give out.
• 2:19:52
  I'm in perfect health to do this, this and this.
• 2:19:54
  What would they get you with me? Oh dude, anything.
• 2:19:59
  If they're like. There's a staircase over there
• 2:20:03
  and you have to run up a toy. So like no stairs?
• 2:20:10
  I like I don't have the fucking. I don't have.
• 2:20:13
  The where I don't have anything that they could like hold over
• 2:20:17
  me, but I'm just like, no, you're going to fucking drown me
• 2:20:19
  or you're going to do something. I'm like and I'm not even afraid
• 2:20:21
  of that. I don't I think my life is too
• 2:20:23
  boring for them to get me with anything.
• 2:20:25
  I if I had something to, I'm not squeaky clean by any means like,
• 2:20:29
  but I would say. Like.
• 2:20:30
  That. I'm so open that like, I'm, I
• 2:20:34
  don't keep deep dark secrets, you know what I mean?
• 2:20:39
  A rare a rare thing like that they do.
• 2:20:42
  A full background. Like he's in the.
• 2:20:44
  Fucking Navy, like they do like a full background check on their
• 2:20:46
  that's the thing. Like they just like just yeah, I
• 2:20:49
  just go into a room, I think. You're like, oh, you're going.
• 2:20:51
  Into a butterfly museum and you're like, no.
• 2:20:55
  But like, so that's the thing, like I don't, I don't think that
• 2:20:59
  my life is that interesting for them to get that.
• 2:21:00
  But like they do a background check on you.
• 2:21:02
  They find out what makes you take what you've been through,
• 2:21:04
  like everything that they can about you, which is fucking so
• 2:21:06
  scary. So like, they obviously were
• 2:21:08
  just like, oh, this man's cheating.
• 2:21:10
  That's how we get him. So they put him through all of
• 2:21:12
  the physical torture that he was a very fit dude, like very
• 2:21:16
  active. And, you know, able to fucking
• 2:21:18
  power through that. And he's like, what else you
• 2:21:20
  got? And I was like, how about your
• 2:21:22
  whole fucking life going down the drain all on a projector?
• 2:21:26
  In front of him. And he was just like, out, I'm
• 2:21:29
  out, I'm out. And then it's fucking crazy.
• 2:21:32
  But like. I kind of love it, like I kind
• 2:21:36
  of would love to. Do some.
• 2:21:38
  I wouldn't. I never.
• 2:21:39
  Would but I love horror movies and stuff like that because I
• 2:21:42
  love being scared and I think the idea of being that fucking
• 2:21:46
  scared, I've never been that scared before and I'm very
• 2:21:49
  interested to see what that would be like as a physical
• 2:21:52
  sensation. You know what I mean?
• 2:21:54
  And and then you've got like the likes of that obviously aren't
• 2:21:58
  the same as like haunted houses in the States where like someone
• 2:22:00
  fucking chases you through an old big fucking building built
• 2:22:04
  specifically for you to not fall and hurt yourself and sue them.
• 2:22:09
  But I still didn't fucking panic you.
• 2:22:11
  I once went to like. It's a place called Lily Moore.
• 2:22:15
  Just. Outside.
• 2:22:16
  Of eh, like I would kind of in rural there and it's where they
• 2:22:22
  kind of have like a pet and zoo, but they also have like loads of
• 2:22:25
  like activities are out there and they had eh, it's out in
• 2:22:31
  like in the bog and they have like this tractor pulling a
• 2:22:35
  bunch of carriages and they turn it into a ghost train.
• 2:22:39
  And I love that. I did it one year and I sat in
• 2:22:46
  the ghost train. How old?
• 2:22:49
  I feel like a bunch of kids all over the place and a clown,
• 2:22:54
  which I'm not afraid of by any means.
• 2:22:56
  Like I don't care about clowns. I bought a clown came running at
• 2:23:00
  me with a chainsaw swinging and all the kids went fucking like a
• 2:23:06
  real 1. Yeah, like an actual chainsaw,
• 2:23:08
  but there's no chain on it. But like, you know, you like,
• 2:23:10
  still like. It's running.
• 2:23:11
  It's a. Running chainsaw, yeah, it's
• 2:23:15
  very creepy like and the guy that was wielding.
• 2:23:18
  The clown that was. The fucking clown that was
• 2:23:21
  wielding the chainsaw was my friend.
• 2:23:23
  I knew him. But the thing about it is I know
• 2:23:27
  people who are good at. Did you know at the time that
• 2:23:29
  you knew him? Oh yeah, but he's the Georgie.
• 2:23:33
  He's actually a, he's a, he's a Colin.
• 2:23:35
  Malone, he's be cool brother. He's a.
• 2:23:36
  Very good. Actor, he's a oh, OK, he's a,
• 2:23:39
  he's a really good actor and. Eh.
• 2:23:44
  He was. He was dressed as a clown and
• 2:23:49
  eh, this is like as he was caught in his teeth when he was
• 2:23:50
  acting. He's done a lot of theatre work
• 2:23:52
  and my friend who now works in TV, so she works on like Vikings
• 2:23:58
  and a lot of the UMM like Netflix shows and stuff like
• 2:24:02
  that where she does a special effects makeup and she was
• 2:24:05
  caught in her teeth here at the same time.
• 2:24:07
  So she made she made a fucking clown and.
• 2:24:12
  This guy is a. Fantastic actor so he has method
• 2:24:15
  as fuck like and I know it's him I love it yeah I'm this is broad
• 2:24:20
  daily I'm surrounded by children I was the.
• 2:24:22
  Most scared? Person in that carriage.
• 2:24:27
  I was also another story that to veer off.
• 2:24:29
  Even more. Is Jordan a comic?
• 2:24:31
  No, I like it. Jordan Comic Con.
• 2:24:34
  They had this kind of little walk.
• 2:24:35
  It wasn't even like a. Haunted house just a.
• 2:24:37
  Walkway where you get to walk through, like the deck of, eh,
• 2:24:42
  like a corridor and the deck of Alien the movie.
• 2:24:45
  Now, you know, we love that wheel.
• 2:24:47
  That's amazing. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:24:50
  And I'm walking through. So and I can hear like little
• 2:24:53
  screams. Happening like when I'm waiting
• 2:24:55
  in the queue to go into this thing.
• 2:24:57
  So I know somewhere as enamorphous coming out and and
• 2:25:00
  again, I love the movie, love it.
• 2:25:03
  It's like I didn't know it was like people are like, so you
• 2:25:05
  like horror movies. I like, I like sci-fi movies.
• 2:25:08
  Like that's a sci-fi horror movie.
• 2:25:09
  OK. I get it right.
• 2:25:11
  So it is. It is.
• 2:25:12
  Yeah. I'm walking through and as I get
• 2:25:14
  to the end I'm like oh. So.
• 2:25:17
  At some like this must be the point when does Animorph jumps
• 2:25:20
  out and gets you because like now I'm anticipating this.
• 2:25:24
  I know it's a person in a costume.
• 2:25:26
  I know I'm in a fucking pretend spaceship and I know I'm looking
• 2:25:30
  now out at the patrons of Comic Con and I'm like, oh, I just
• 2:25:34
  have to walk past this point and I'm out and I'm safe.
• 2:25:38
  I'm the safest person ever. Ah, fucking name for Denimov
• 2:25:42
  drops down behind me. So no, yeah.
• 2:25:46
  So we don't know. Like I think that's coming out
• 2:25:48
  from drops out of. The ceiling behind me.
• 2:25:51
  And I screamed words that I would only use in a podcast and
• 2:25:56
  I screamed a lot of words where a lot of children were.
• 2:26:00
  And I legged it. I would.
• 2:26:01
  Oh, no, I know. And like I I know, I know, but
• 2:26:05
  I'm. Like, you know.
• 2:26:07
  You're not in danger, but yes. Yeah.
• 2:26:09
  But I do. Kind.
• 2:26:11
  Of get immersed into it. OK.
• 2:26:14
  Yeah. I mean, I think we.
• 2:26:16
  I need to get back to this fuck. I need to.
• 2:26:17
  Put a cherry on the top of this. Fucking pumpkin.
• 2:26:19
  Here I'm. Sorry, I'm just having a great
• 2:26:21
  time talking about this because I've got so much more things we
• 2:26:23
  can talk about on. Haunted houses and it's a lot of
• 2:26:25
  fun, but well, fine. What I read, it's how it's how
• 2:26:29
  we want baby. Oh yeah, that's true.
• 2:26:32
  Actually, yeah, OK, we just let's pull out extra podcasts.
• 2:26:35
  Focus. And.
• 2:26:37
  Yes, and it's finished the boring.
• 2:26:38
  Part and and we'll. So, ladies and gentlemen, now
• 2:26:44
  come to. The modern times.
• 2:26:46
  Of Halloween. This is the conclusion to our
• 2:26:50
  whatever. I don't I can't even tell how
• 2:26:53
  long this is recording is because we've had to record a
• 2:26:58
  couple of segments of this. And so if it is 3 hours long,
• 2:27:04
  congratulations, you've yes weirded true to shit and got to
• 2:27:08
  the end of Halloween. What we now have is this
• 2:27:12
  Halloween where we've got haunted houses and trick or
• 2:27:16
  treat and these the colours which are black and orange are
• 2:27:23
  very, they're synonymous with Halloween.
• 2:27:27
  And people would kind of think that maybe it's because of the
• 2:27:30
  pumpkin. But black and orange was
• 2:27:31
  actually prevalent in Halloween celebrations for centuries.
• 2:27:36
  And it would go with the black being the black of night and the
• 2:27:39
  orange being the orange of the fire from the bonfires or the
• 2:27:45
  orange of the leaves that would be falling around, you know,
• 2:27:49
  falling. Like the Americans are so stupid
• 2:27:51
  that they can't say we have to say leaves are falling.
• 2:27:55
  It must be fall. What a bunch of fucking idiots
• 2:27:58
  fall. And if you're listening from
• 2:28:00
  America, thank you for your patronage.
• 2:28:02
  Yeah, we, we do have quite a few American listeners, I will say.
• 2:28:07
  Yeah. OK.
• 2:28:08
  Thank you for. Listening.
• 2:28:10
  Americans put the date the right way around and.
• 2:28:13
  Stop calling the fall so they're not.
• 2:28:15
  We've just lost all two of our listeners now.
• 2:28:17
  Well, they should say aluminium the.
• 2:28:19
  Right the the correct way then and.
• 2:28:22
  Aluminum. Aluminum.
• 2:28:24
  We just learn another. Anyways.
• 2:28:28
  We've come to the end the conclusion Halloween isn't just
• 2:28:33
  one thing, and it's not attributed to one people.
• 2:28:36
  It's an amalgamation of a lot of things, from ancient
• 2:28:41
  celebrations to folklore spoken down over years to pop culture,
• 2:28:49
  spanning from novels to movies to all kinds of influences.
• 2:28:58
  We've got, we've now got horror movies that are based entirely
• 2:29:02
  around Halloween. We've got, uh, customs that span
• 2:29:08
  generations and that have crept in and out of the celebrations
• 2:29:13
  of Halloween like sauling and trick or treating.
• 2:29:16
  It's become this, eh, beautiful time that a lot of people
• 2:29:20
  actually find it to be their favorite time of year, like
• 2:29:24
  myself and maybe yourself, Danny.
• 2:29:26
  I love it where we like that it's after getting a little bit
• 2:29:29
  dark, the weather. Is getting a little I love.
• 2:29:32
  The long evenings, yes, I do love the long evenings.
• 2:29:35
  Yes, it gets. Dark.
• 2:29:37
  The weather gets a bit cold. You want to get cozy.
• 2:29:39
  You want to get into your. Comfy non your blanket?
• 2:29:42
  Yeah, you're going to eat a little bit more.
• 2:29:45
  You're going to. Scare the shite out of yourself
• 2:29:47
  with some. Halloween movies.
• 2:29:50
  No one knows if I'm fat or if I'm just wearing layers.
• 2:29:53
  The answer is both. Like it's so nice.
• 2:29:56
  Great. Jokes on you guys, I'm fat and
• 2:29:59
  wearing layers. So, so Halloween is this
• 2:30:04
  beautiful? Mix of.
• 2:30:07
  History. Folklore, uh, the celebrations
• 2:30:12
  from, uh, different, umm, different cultures throughout
• 2:30:17
  the years. And what we have now is just
• 2:30:20
  this, uh, lovely kind of, uh, entering into this season of
• 2:30:27
  autumn, winter, this, this, this, as the Celts called it,
• 2:30:31
  the dark side of the year. And that what, what we kind of
• 2:30:35
  consider the most depressing months.
• 2:30:39
  And so we try and lift our spirits a little bit with some
• 2:30:42
  fun stuff to do. And we've got Christmas.
• 2:30:45
  We've got obviously in America, they've got Thanksgiving, which
• 2:30:49
  will be the, the harvest festivals.
• 2:30:52
  And we've got Halloween, this lovely little kind of, eh,
• 2:30:57
  introduction to the cold, to the dark, to the mysterious, to the
• 2:31:02
  spooky. And we fucking love it.
• 2:31:08
  It's the best. And just to give you like a
• 2:31:11
  little bit more of like an. Insight into the.
• 2:31:13
  The Irishness of it. So we have is it new range the
• 2:31:16
  passage to yeah. So that's only ever fully
• 2:31:20
  illuminated on 2 days of the. Year, and that is.
• 2:31:23
  September. 21st Which is the eh, no, December. 21st, which is the
• 2:31:29
  fucking hell, Sorry, it's this. It's December.
• 2:31:33
  It's December. Sorry, it's December.
• 2:31:35
  I don't know why I said September.
• 2:31:37
  It's December 20. 1st, which is the shortest day of the year and
• 2:31:41
  then June 21st, which is the longest day of the year and
• 2:31:45
  that's that. Literally if you see it like
• 2:31:48
  they so they used to show it all the time on the news growing up.
• 2:31:51
  It's just like oh, live footage of fucking new range.
• 2:31:54
  Like it's like I just fucking just just record it, speed it up
• 2:31:57
  and show it tomorrow. Like we don't need to sit here
• 2:32:00
  and watch it. What's that guys do?
• 2:32:01
  Halloween. I'm just.
• 2:32:04
  Saying it just makes. How deeply ingrained.
• 2:32:07
  All of. That is.
• 2:32:11
  In like fucking is ingrained. Into the Celtic thing.
• 2:32:14
  And new range actually predates the Celts, so and I and I.
• 2:32:19
  Believe whatever. I believe it predates a lot more
• 2:32:22
  than that. It also predates some of the.
• 2:32:24
  Pyramids. Of Giza.
• 2:32:27
  So there you go. Not the Great Pyramid, but some
• 2:32:29
  guy Ozer and. Some of them.
• 2:32:32
  Were small the. Lesser pyramids.
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  So, ladies. And gentlemen.
• 2:32:36
  This has been just the heavy episode.
• 2:32:40
  And has I'm sorry for forcing Danny to stop talking about
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  things like what we thought about haunted houses and fucking
• 2:32:49
  ah, we'll, we'll do that next week.
• 2:32:51
  I'll give you a whole fucking thing because that was so.
• 2:32:54
  Much fun and I feel like. Just, I just want to horrify,
• 2:32:56
  just see with how fucking real these things get and the
• 2:32:59
  horrible things that have happened at these houses a lot
• 2:33:04
  might be one of our, our, we'll, we'll come up with what we're
• 2:33:06
  going to talk about in the. Weeks.
• 2:33:08
  Coming up but we'll definitely talk about these haunted houses.
• 2:33:10
  I you've you've Mccainy manners. The first thing you have to look
• 2:33:15
  up. OK, you've.
• 2:33:16
  You've piqued my interest a lot more.
• 2:33:18
  Than. Trying to find out more about.
• 2:33:20
  Women getting shit on by Saudis and just just watch that Dark
• 2:33:26
  Tourist episode first. And he?
• 2:33:30
  Goes into a little bit and then just yeah, go from there.
• 2:33:33
  But it. Is it's fucking rough.
• 2:33:35
  But yeah, anyway, I've been Justy.
• 2:33:38
  She's been Danny. Ladies and gentlemen, that's
• 2:33:42
  been Halloween. I've been Danny, she's been
• 2:33:45
  Justy. And thank you for hanging out
• 2:33:49
  with us for a spell. Goodbye, Alex.