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Will Foley be back for week 6? | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, October 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimson with John
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Speaker 1: Oceans and Bryan Sexton. Jacks Drive Time and starts right now. Gentlemen, now,
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Speaker 1: please welcome to the Field Hall of Famer Tony but
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Speaker 1: Selly earned the Hall of Fame jacket, You earned the
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Speaker 1: love and respect of the entire community. Only one thing
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Speaker 1: to see the official retirement of number seventy one by
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguar. Awesome, awesome look back at Tony Boselli's
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Speaker 1: halftime Hall of Fame ceremony and this week sounds of
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Speaker 1: the game. You can watch it on Jaguar sot com
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Speaker 1: right now as soon as it played. John But like
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Speaker 1: this because yes, we still have to remember it, we
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Speaker 1: still have to talk about it because it was that
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Speaker 1: cool John. That was funny. Now, I kid it. It
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Speaker 1: was a great moment, so long deserved. I've said it
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Speaker 1: a million times, but I mean it's uh. Uh. I
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Speaker 1: was ecstatic for him. I don't I don't hug that
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Speaker 1: many people. When he told me was in, I hugged him.
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Speaker 1: I cried the whole thing. Uh. And it was a
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Speaker 1: fantastic weekend. You were more intimately involved than I was. Well,
1:39
Speaker 1: so I said on stage on Saturday night before the
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Speaker 1: debut that they did the Rich Theater in the Villa
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Speaker 1: that four when a lot of us showed up here, well,
1:49
Speaker 1: there weren't that many of us left. When a couple
1:51
Speaker 1: of us showed up, everything was the first right. John
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Speaker 1: was running for the you know, the first draft pick,
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Speaker 1: which was Tony in the first game, the first win,
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Speaker 1: the first lost, the first touchdown, you know all that's
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Speaker 1: a first play off game. It stretched through a couple
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Speaker 1: of years. It's been a while since we've had a
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Speaker 1: first UM and there aren't that many first left. I
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Speaker 1: think the next first to go was maybe a Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl right, appearance in a Super Bowl and Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: win whatever. UM. So it was great for the franchise,
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Speaker 1: and I can't say that enough. It was really important
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Speaker 1: to the franchise to have Tony Biselli into the Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame. It's another step forward for this team. Although
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Speaker 1: it was cool too. Uh. That night I ran into
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Speaker 1: Reggie Barlow, who hadn't seen since I covered in two
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Speaker 1: thousand one. I think he left two for the Raiders,
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Speaker 1: and a couple of people with Jimmy Smith who've seen
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Speaker 1: a lot, and then other people at the event and uh,
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Speaker 1: and talking to Reggie, there was a real pride that
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Speaker 1: Tony had gone in and he was he said, hey,
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Speaker 1: when's Fred getting in? When's Jimmy getting you know? Uh,
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Speaker 1: So there's still a connection. And I think for a
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Speaker 1: long time, because there's been no Super Bowl, because there
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Speaker 1: has been a lack of success, I think some of
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Speaker 1: the alumni players UM haven't felt the connection, not necessarily
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Speaker 1: through any fault of anything. It's it's just this was
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Speaker 1: kind of blah, Well, it's just time. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: been twenty five years now. A lot of these guys
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Speaker 1: in the nineties are as old as I am, which
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Speaker 1: is old, so you want I think they want to connect.
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Speaker 1: And there's always been a pride about this team that
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people naturally miss. I know,
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Speaker 1: you gotta get the big things. But it just so
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Speaker 1: I'm wearing my legend shure today right because I was
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Speaker 1: involved in this process and I just want people to
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Speaker 1: know that as I talked to former players from all
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Speaker 1: eras John not just you know, from Tony's era, UM,
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Speaker 1: there was a strong desire to be a part of
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Speaker 1: something like this, and that's why on Friday night when
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Speaker 1: they were top golf. They had a great showing. It
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Speaker 1: was a good showing here for breakfast on Saturday morning
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Speaker 1: and for a uh some time spent at the practice.
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Speaker 1: Stunning when you saw the photo of of Tony Brackens
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Speaker 1: who was working with Um Josh and with tray bon Um.
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Speaker 1: There was a lot of that going on and so
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Speaker 1: for these guys to have the chance to reconnect with
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Speaker 1: the Franchi eyes Um and of course on Sunday you
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Speaker 1: saw how many guys showed up for the game. It
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Speaker 1: was really good. I I think it was the start
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Speaker 1: of the renewal of this franchise. We're seeing it in
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Speaker 1: the facilities. Hopefully we start seeing it on the field
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Speaker 1: a little bit more week to week. Although I think
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Speaker 1: if you're honest with yourself, you can see it already
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Speaker 1: and now you're seeing it with the alumni and you
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Speaker 1: can watch the full seventy one documentary right now on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube is so well done, and it is on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com as well. As we get into Big
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Speaker 1: Things and Big Thing one is back for more. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars stays in the colts again this weekend after just
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Speaker 1: playing them in Week two. Trevor Lawrence played very well
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Speaker 1: against this very defense, and coach Peterson wants him to
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Speaker 1: do it again. The thing is, when you play teams
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Speaker 1: defenses like this, like last week Houston, now now this week.
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Speaker 1: You know, these the lovely Smiths, the Gus Bradley's of
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Speaker 1: the world, those those coordinators. Their defense is they don't
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Speaker 1: do a lot, but what they do they do it
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Speaker 1: well and they're very disciplined. And so it's from an
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Speaker 1: offensive mindset, we have to stay disciplined, and we have
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Speaker 1: to be patient and even as play callers, you know myself,
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Speaker 1: we have to, um, you know, be patient with that
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Speaker 1: sometimes and you know, they keep everything in front of you.
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Speaker 1: They don't want to give up the big play, you know.
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Speaker 1: So uh, it's just it's just that's what's that's the mentality,
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Speaker 1: you know, and that's the mindset, um as you play,
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Speaker 1: as you play teams like that. Big thing too is
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Speaker 1: same stands whenever we talk about the jag Wars and
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Speaker 1: the Colts were always going to talk about stopping running
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Speaker 1: back Jonathan Taylor. Interestingly enough, he did not practice yesterday
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Speaker 1: and Indianapolis will pay attention to that today. But Art
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Speaker 1: and Key and really this entire defense know that this
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Speaker 1: is always the message when playing the Colts. Applying it
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Speaker 1: this week, we gotta stopped to run. We know that
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Speaker 1: they got away from the run game the first time
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Speaker 1: we played them. Um, this week they gotta feed their
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Speaker 1: work for us too. Eight. That's that's that's, that's the often. Um,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna feed him the ball. They're gonna keep feeding
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Speaker 1: it and they're not gonna stop like they did the
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Speaker 1: first game. So we gotta stop to run for at
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Speaker 1: least a half and then boom and then boom. Big
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Speaker 1: thing three. Wait, a little Jaguar is going through a
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Speaker 1: rough patch right now, back to back losses, but they
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Speaker 1: all believe they will play out of it, especially with
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Speaker 1: the help of veteran leadership. You know, I think it
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Speaker 1: takes veteran leadership. You know, it's a kind of subtle
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Speaker 1: guys in and say, hey, you know it's only week five,
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Speaker 1: weeks six, Um, you know we have so many more
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Speaker 1: games left and a whole future ahead of us, and
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Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be ups and downs in our season.
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Speaker 1: And you know that's how social media works now, is
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Speaker 1: you know, you lose one week, it's time to hit
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Speaker 1: the panic button. You win the next week. It's toim
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Speaker 1: to crowns the Super Bowl chance. You know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: just how that the world is nowadays. And so you know,
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Speaker 1: for us, the veterans that have been in this league
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Speaker 1: that know how it goes, it's just keeping everybody balance,
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Speaker 1: keeping the same approach. You don't have to do anymore
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Speaker 1: than you did the week, and just being consistent in
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Speaker 1: our approach. Brian, I knew you're gonna love that answer.
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Speaker 1: I can see you smiling when he said social media.
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Speaker 1: Everyone relaxed. Yeah, well, you know how I feel about that.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to one of those veteran leaders yesterday
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Speaker 1: about this team and really where the consistent he has
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Speaker 1: to show up first is on the practice field, and
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Speaker 1: I got the sense talking to him that there's a
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Speaker 1: ways that this young team has to go to play consistently.
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Speaker 1: You must learn to practice consistently at Doug and Mike
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Speaker 1: and all of his leaders are, you know, working to
7:15
Speaker 1: develop this team's practice habits at the same time that
7:19
Speaker 1: they're working to win games, right, And I think that's
7:21
Speaker 1: something that we overlook is they've got a lot of
7:22
Speaker 1: young guys. They got to know exactly the attention to
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Speaker 1: detail and the work they have to do on their
7:27
Speaker 1: own in the film room or at home on the iPad.
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Speaker 1: They've got to learn how to win doesn't just mean
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Speaker 1: to close out a game, it's how to prepare for
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Speaker 1: the game. And I think that it was very revealing
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Speaker 1: that this player was so honest about they still have
7:40
Speaker 1: a ways to go in terms of preparation. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: a young team, and they worked really hard in the
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Speaker 1: offseason and did impressive things to make it feel like
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Speaker 1: a veteran team. When I say they, I mean Tranbolky,
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. You brought in veterans at most positions, but
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Speaker 1: true veteran teams have home grown guy guys who grew
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Speaker 1: up in your system at every position that everybody sort
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Speaker 1: of knows naturally as a leader, and they have other
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Speaker 1: guys who don't have to necessarily always look to that
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Speaker 1: guy for leadership. It is a young team. The two
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Speaker 1: guys who made the crucial mistakes the other day we
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Speaker 1: talked about Brian Trayvon Walker and Trevor Lawrence huge expectations.
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Speaker 1: They're also two years old, which in this league is
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Speaker 1: very very young, So I absolutely thank youth is still
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Speaker 1: a factor, and the fact that they've lost close games,
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Speaker 1: tight games games at the end. Those are things that
8:33
Speaker 1: I know people are tired of it, but you've got
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Speaker 1: to learn it and you've got to have that veteran
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Speaker 1: presence to do those things consistently. They're working towards. I
8:41
Speaker 1: think it's easier right now. I mean, I know people
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Speaker 1: are started of hearing patients, but it's easier when you
8:46
Speaker 1: look at the rest of the team, the run defense,
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Speaker 1: the way the offensive line has protected the quarterback. You
8:50
Speaker 1: can see that this is just a matter of more
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Speaker 1: time for the quarterback, which Doug has talked about, to
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Speaker 1: learn to get ready for the different situations, to learn
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Speaker 1: to be patient, try to force things. His own words
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Speaker 1: post game, I was trying to force things we've seen
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Speaker 1: that we saw in Philadelphia, all of these things. It's
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Speaker 1: a little easier to be patient if you're looking at
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Speaker 1: the big picture. Now. I want to go to number two,
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Speaker 1: and that's Jonathan Taylor. He had a big game at
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Speaker 1: the end of season two one yards, and then he
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Speaker 1: broke into a huge game in November last year hundred
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Speaker 1: and seven, and the first half since then. He had
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Speaker 1: nine yards in the first in the second half of
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Speaker 1: that game, by the way, but he only had eighteen
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Speaker 1: yards here in January and and only four yards here
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Speaker 1: in the first half of the other game. Well, how
9:33
Speaker 1: did they do that? And all of a sudden the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars run defense stock up on talent. Yeah, to a degree,
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Speaker 1: But it was the offense that got out to an
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Speaker 1: early lead and put points on the board. The defense
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Speaker 1: was able to focus on the run. They fell behind
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Speaker 1: in both games. And that's going to be the way
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Speaker 1: you stop Jonathan Taylor. Is this offense get some points
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Speaker 1: on the board and frustrate them, stop the runs. You
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Speaker 1: can set up the quarterback to stand in the pocket.
9:54
Speaker 1: I get a john. But in order for this run
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Speaker 1: defense to stop a guy as good as Jonathan Taylor,
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Speaker 1: assuming he plays, he is the best running back in
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Speaker 1: the league right now. And if he is, if they
10:05
Speaker 1: get away from him, it's because you've put points on
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Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, I think I think they contain Taylor
10:12
Speaker 1: because they've done it. And from what you hear in Indianapolis,
10:15
Speaker 1: the Colts offensive line, Uh, and that whole offense, even
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Speaker 1: when Taylor was playing, was not clicking the way it
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Speaker 1: usually does. Uh. To me, the biggest factor, the biggest change. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you stopped Taylor when they stopped Taylor in week two,
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan had zero options because the two receivers were
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Speaker 1: out this week. If they stopped Taylor, which I think
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Speaker 1: they'll contain in a relatively similar way, how do you
10:38
Speaker 1: handle it when the Colts have their weapons and can
10:42
Speaker 1: maybe instead of it being what was it ten nothing
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Speaker 1: at halftime, it's ten seven, and it's it's closer. The
10:47
Speaker 1: play calls are different. Uh, That to me turns this
10:51
Speaker 1: into a different matchup. I agree it is a different matchup,
10:54
Speaker 1: but you know, he's had Michael Pittman an Ally Pierce
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Speaker 1: Now the last couple of games, he's been sacked twenty
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Speaker 1: one times, He's fumbled the ball eleven times times, and
11:00
Speaker 1: he has turned the ball over seven times. Write in
11:03
Speaker 1: terms of of interception. So and if you go back
11:06
Speaker 1: to to the merger in vent, he's the only quarterback
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Speaker 1: through five games to have that kind of statistical and
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Speaker 1: he's struggled. He doesn't look like Matt Ryan, and I
11:15
Speaker 1: think a lot of that is due to the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of pressure on these
11:19
Speaker 1: guys to put pressure on this guy, because if you do,
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Speaker 1: you can make them much less efficient. He is somehow
11:26
Speaker 1: they've won two of those three games since they played here,
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Speaker 1: and usually teams don't meander around like that for long, so, uh,
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Speaker 1: we'll see. It's worrisome. Schinn for sure is more to
11:38
Speaker 1: talk about what the Jaguars drive time in this game
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Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday. We go around the locker room
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11:55
Speaker 1: to Jaguars drive time Thursday morning, getting ready for an
11:58
Speaker 1: away game this Sunday against the Coal Since we go
12:00
Speaker 1: around the locker room from yesterday, and the big message
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Speaker 1: really from a lot of veteran guys who have played
12:05
Speaker 1: in this league a couple of years, is this balance
12:07
Speaker 1: we talk about of wanting to win right now but
12:09
Speaker 1: knowing this might take some time, and what side do
12:12
Speaker 1: you lean on. Let's hear from racheon Jenkins and this.
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Speaker 1: The NFL is just hard to win every single game,
12:18
Speaker 1: I will say that, but we want to win majority
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Speaker 1: of them. And that's where we're trying to get this team.
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Speaker 1: The mindset of this team, you know, we gotta win
12:27
Speaker 1: most of these games, you know, win the games that
12:30
Speaker 1: we're supposed to win, and you will hear the slight
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Speaker 1: game of ping pong behind all of these interviews. It
12:36
Speaker 1: never goes away. It's still I will started the ping
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Speaker 1: pong table. Do you realize that there's a big story
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Speaker 1: this week about was it the commanders? And Ron Rivero
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Speaker 1: was praising players for making the decision to get rid
12:47
Speaker 1: of the ping pong table, right, that's a story. I mean,
12:50
Speaker 1: it's a story. Every year there's there's someone that says, hey,
12:52
Speaker 1: we put the ping pong table back in because it
12:54
Speaker 1: could it promotes unity and guys want to be there.
12:56
Speaker 1: And then another coach says, we got rid of that
12:58
Speaker 1: thing because it distracted guys. How come? I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you that's a problem. If they're not seeing a story.
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Speaker 1: When he's in the locker room, most teams have players lounges.
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Speaker 1: This team really doesn't have that kind of players lounges
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Speaker 1: within the locker room. It's it's whatever, it becomes just tired.
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Speaker 1: I'm just weary. I'm a weary man on a long journey.
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Speaker 1: If you think ping pong is the problem, you've got
13:25
Speaker 1: a much bigger problem. Sometimes you are searching dramatically and
13:29
Speaker 1: desperately for a reason through two reds owners. That's the
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Speaker 1: problem ping pong. Alright, so let's go back to Christian Kirk.
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Speaker 1: This offense that played so well in Los Angeles and
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Speaker 1: against the Colts. We all got the taste of what
13:44
Speaker 1: this offense could look like, and now them themselves are
13:46
Speaker 1: trying to get back to that. It's tough, you know,
13:49
Speaker 1: when you get a taste and you know how good
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Speaker 1: you can be. We've shown it, and I think that's
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Speaker 1: the disappointing part is you know how good we can be,
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Speaker 1: and we know we haven't been living up to our standard.
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Speaker 1: Is so hy started today and I'll go into Tomorrow
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Speaker 1: and Friday of just you know, practicing to our level
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Speaker 1: expectation and looking to get out there Sunday and just
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Speaker 1: play free and play in our game plan. I can't
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Speaker 1: hear the ping pong now table. It's a pink pound table.
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Speaker 1: You did hear Christian Kirk say practicing to our expectation,
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Speaker 1: and Brian, that goes back to you and what that
14:21
Speaker 1: player was telling you. It's it's clear that that might
14:24
Speaker 1: be the message this week. There are a lot of
14:25
Speaker 1: young players that need to learn and and Doug has
14:29
Speaker 1: said this over and over. He never gets away from Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, he's not thinking about Thursday for on Thursday's
14:35
Speaker 1: thinking about Thursday and Thursday only. And that's that's a
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Speaker 1: level of maturity, that's a level of performance that young
14:42
Speaker 1: players have to learn. Um, we'd all like them to
14:45
Speaker 1: be there right now, but they're not. Yea and working
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Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, I can tell you this. The veteran
14:51
Speaker 1: player I talked to said that the other veteran players
14:53
Speaker 1: that he talks to, they're all working on it. They're
14:55
Speaker 1: all focused on taking it from their meeting rooms to
14:57
Speaker 1: the practice field to the locker room so that the
14:59
Speaker 1: pin punk game is as precise as possible. It's all
15:02
Speaker 1: about the pain PAWNK game. All right. Let's go back
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Speaker 1: to Art and Key who practiced at outside linebacker yesterday,
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Speaker 1: and this is clear. The Colts will bring their best
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. If you aren't paying attention to week to
15:13
Speaker 1: this game against the Colts, they will play angry on Sunday.
15:18
Speaker 1: You're looking out two losses we have back to back.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna come in and think, Okay, we got them.
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Speaker 1: They kind of down. They lost two games back to back.
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Speaker 1: We should take advantage of. But we gotta come here
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Speaker 1: ready to work Sunday, fine off offsets and and truthfully,
15:35
Speaker 1: the Jaguars could say the same thing about the Colts. Yes,
15:37
Speaker 1: they are struggling as well, they're squeaking by with these games.
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Speaker 1: But the Colts aren't far and away better than the
15:42
Speaker 1: Jaguars right now. That's why I think this game is
15:44
Speaker 1: so interesting. No, it's it's so the same as last weekend.
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Speaker 1: And I would maintain, I know we built up last week.
15:51
Speaker 1: I'll say a lot about the team, and it did it.
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Speaker 1: It's showed you they're not ready to be called contenders
15:56
Speaker 1: yet until they win a couple and get back into it. Um.
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Speaker 1: But I think this game now you're back sort of
16:04
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And it's been a long time since
16:07
Speaker 1: his team has been in the NFL, meaning they've been
16:09
Speaker 1: down low where you knew they weren't going to be
16:11
Speaker 1: involved very much conversation. Um. In this league, you lose
16:17
Speaker 1: disappointing games. You sometimes sink to two and three when
16:20
Speaker 1: you think you're better than that, and then if you
16:23
Speaker 1: have a bad loss at home, you go on the
16:25
Speaker 1: road and win one. And now next week, if Trevor
16:29
Speaker 1: goes up there in those three touchdowns. There will be
16:32
Speaker 1: fans writing me who wrote me this week that he's
16:34
Speaker 1: a bust, wondering why he's not higher on the nfl
16:37
Speaker 1: dot Com quarterback ranking because he's not getting love and respect.
16:40
Speaker 1: That's how the league goes. But that's what you have
16:43
Speaker 1: to do. You covered Del Rio's teams for years. I
16:46
Speaker 1: always thought were sort of in the in the muck
16:49
Speaker 1: of the NFL. They were between seven and nine and
16:52
Speaker 1: ten and six, and they lost a couple of games
16:54
Speaker 1: and they had fight back and get there. They made
16:55
Speaker 1: the playoffs a couple of times too. In that way,
16:57
Speaker 1: they were like, he was, yeah, but you've got to
17:01
Speaker 1: if this team wins this week, then I think they'll
17:05
Speaker 1: have a chance to get seven eight. Being the conversation
17:08
Speaker 1: be frustrating at times and being there if if they
17:10
Speaker 1: lose this one, you do wonder about it sort of
17:13
Speaker 1: slide in a way. I admit I worry about that,
17:15
Speaker 1: But that's what you've eventually got to break out of
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Speaker 1: and be a team that goes and wins one of
17:20
Speaker 1: these I'm not buying the whole angry Colts thing. I mean,
17:23
Speaker 1: they had a chance. They were angry when they came
17:25
Speaker 1: down here in week two. They had the score of
17:27
Speaker 1: last January, the crushing loss that painted in their locker room.
17:31
Speaker 1: They were gonna be angry. They were gonna be angry
17:32
Speaker 1: week stuff goes away after pay Yeah, there, there, there,
17:34
Speaker 1: there's not much. The fans might be loud because the
17:37
Speaker 1: Jaguars knocked him out of the playoffs and this is
17:39
Speaker 1: their first chance to see them. Um, what you're what
17:42
Speaker 1: you're going to see is a veteran team that's very
17:44
Speaker 1: well coached. That That's what I worry about is that
17:47
Speaker 1: they're so well coached and their veterans that they will
17:50
Speaker 1: know the little differences that some of the young guys
17:52
Speaker 1: on this team don't in terms of how to handle
17:55
Speaker 1: the emotion of the game. Um, but I'm not I'm
17:57
Speaker 1: not buying the angry thing he said you're gonna see
17:59
Speaker 1: The Colts, asked Jack, were just better bring their best better,
18:02
Speaker 1: a great thing on the practice field today and tomorrow.
18:04
Speaker 1: And the Colts also having some extra time to prepare
18:06
Speaker 1: for this game coming off of third tonight, they are
18:08
Speaker 1: so certainly an advantage. They are so beat up their
18:11
Speaker 1: injury report. If we're gonna talk about the injury report
18:13
Speaker 1: from week two where they were missing a couple of guys.
18:15
Speaker 1: It's even worse now, and it's in three key defensive
18:18
Speaker 1: guys safety Quitty pay, their safety Quitty pay, and they're
18:24
Speaker 1: missing nice shack Lanard uh Taylor be down their backup
18:28
Speaker 1: running back. But the thing you worry about this when
18:30
Speaker 1: we talked about on this show, the Colts since they
18:32
Speaker 1: left Jacksonville have been winning and staying close in sort
18:36
Speaker 1: of some ugly stay close games. Once Matt Ryan gets
18:41
Speaker 1: into the five minute mark, at a six minute mark,
18:44
Speaker 1: he's experienced enough, he's calm, he knows how to bring
18:46
Speaker 1: a team back right now. I don't think he's the
18:49
Speaker 1: physical player Trevor Lawrences. But late in games, Matt Ryan
18:53
Speaker 1: is still saving still years in the game. You don't
18:55
Speaker 1: want this to be a sixteen thirteen thing at the
18:58
Speaker 1: end of the game with the coal To having the
19:00
Speaker 1: ball at their own thirty because all of a sudden
19:02
Speaker 1: he's he's complete in three passes. You're in. You know,
19:04
Speaker 1: that's what you want to try to avoid absolutely, and
19:07
Speaker 1: that is around the locker room. We come back on
19:08
Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive times some he will, he won't, he might.
19:11
Speaker 1: On the Jaguars Digital Network, we are back. Jaguars drive
19:18
Speaker 1: time Thursday morning, which means it's time to look ahead
19:21
Speaker 1: to Sunday for he will if he won't, he might
19:23
Speaker 1: for this game, Brian, what he got, Well, I'm assuming
19:26
Speaker 1: that Folly plays and he practiced was a little bit
19:28
Speaker 1: limited yesterday. But look, if he plays, he will make
19:31
Speaker 1: a huge difference. I don't believe Damian Pierce has some
19:35
Speaker 1: of the success that he has running inside last week
19:38
Speaker 1: breaking tackles if Folly is there. So if he plays,
19:41
Speaker 1: he shuts down two and even three gaps that allows
19:44
Speaker 1: Davon Hamilton's and Roy Roberts and Harris even more flexibility.
19:48
Speaker 1: He is a massive difference. If he is on the
19:51
Speaker 1: field on Sunday, he won't. He won't dazzle people because
19:57
Speaker 1: that's not his game, right. Everyone keeps looking for this
19:59
Speaker 1: defensive to ackle, to penetrate and make sacks, and he's
20:01
Speaker 1: had a couple of moments where he's gotten towards the quarterback,
20:04
Speaker 1: but that's not his game. UM. So he's not gonna
20:06
Speaker 1: put up stats that have people going down totally. Um.
20:09
Speaker 1: But he might be the most important of the free
20:11
Speaker 1: agent that they signed because inside, especially in the a
20:15
Speaker 1: f C South, where you have Jonathan Taylor, now Damian
20:18
Speaker 1: Pierce and the big guy in Tennessee, Derrick Henry. You
20:22
Speaker 1: have got to have someone who shuts down the middle
20:24
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know how to jest. Let this
20:25
Speaker 1: guy get away. Um. He is a tremendously powerful and
20:31
Speaker 1: really smart interior defensive lineman. And I you know, I
20:35
Speaker 1: think if the Jaguars end up, like John said, getting
20:38
Speaker 1: into this eight nine ten win category, uh, he'll be
20:41
Speaker 1: a serious candidate for m v P. Yeah. I don't
20:44
Speaker 1: know that I said ten, but you've said before. And
20:49
Speaker 1: I think they had a really nice, nice free agency period.
20:52
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk Dakasilo con Um. I'm not sure we're looking
20:58
Speaker 1: at pro bowlers there, but in that free agency they
21:01
Speaker 1: wanted to raise the level and get uh good people
21:06
Speaker 1: who could lead to I think it's one of the
21:08
Speaker 1: better free agency classes are raising the level of talent
21:11
Speaker 1: and doing what they wanted to do that they've had
21:13
Speaker 1: in a long time. My h three each land is
21:16
Speaker 1: uh Devin Lloyd. I remembered it was looking at a
21:20
Speaker 1: piece of you brought it. Yeah, and he will he will,
21:23
Speaker 1: he might, I'll do the categories, but he will be
21:26
Speaker 1: around the ball. Uh. Jeff Logumann give me a terrific step.
21:32
Speaker 1: When I talked to him on Monday about this and
21:34
Speaker 1: he said, Devin was he had eleven miss tackles. I mean,
21:39
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, eleven tackles and five miss tackles the other
21:42
Speaker 1: day or something in that category we had. The point
21:45
Speaker 1: was he was around the ball sixteen or seventeen times,
21:48
Speaker 1: which is an insane number to be around the ball
21:50
Speaker 1: and have a chance. He won't make every tackle because
21:53
Speaker 1: he's young, he's still learning. Once he gets there finished
21:59
Speaker 1: the play, UH do the things that will eventually make
22:03
Speaker 1: him a pro bowler. In an all pro I have two.
22:06
Speaker 1: He might land, so it's h three with a little
22:09
Speaker 1: blasts um. He might get a pick because the guy
22:14
Speaker 1: has an unbelievable knack for being around the ball. And
22:18
Speaker 1: sometimes that's a sixth cent. Sometimes it's because he's so
22:21
Speaker 1: fast and reacts so well. He almost had to pick
22:23
Speaker 1: the other day early. Uh off a deflection at some point.
22:27
Speaker 1: It's not a fluke. He's always either defensing a pass
22:31
Speaker 1: making a pick. It's the last he might have excited
22:34
Speaker 1: about Brian. This is where he might wind up being
22:40
Speaker 1: the best defensive player the team's ever had, whoa I mean,
22:44
Speaker 1: and it's way early, but he has that kind of potential.
22:48
Speaker 1: He is insanely good for a young player. There doesn't
22:52
Speaker 1: seem to be any limit. And when I say best,
22:55
Speaker 1: you know there's been the guys Brackens. I think Brackens
22:59
Speaker 1: best they have who put in so much time My
23:03
Speaker 1: point in saying this and not jail and of course
23:05
Speaker 1: never quite worked out in terms of being here. But
23:08
Speaker 1: this guy's got that sort of playmaking ability that's sort
23:11
Speaker 1: of dynamic. Uh. We talked about it so gushingly after
23:14
Speaker 1: the draft that the reason I said he's gonna be
23:16
Speaker 1: the best that I wanted to circle back to that comment. Um,
23:19
Speaker 1: he hasn't disappointed at all in the first five weeks
23:22
Speaker 1: and there's nothing to make you think that he's not
23:24
Speaker 1: going to be a meteoric superstar. Um. Totally agree. Bracken
23:27
Speaker 1: says the most sacks um machine has the most takeaways,
23:32
Speaker 1: and this guy does both. So if he comes close
23:35
Speaker 1: to his potential, which is, as you said, meteoric, Uh,
23:39
Speaker 1: he's tremendous. And keep in mind because he really hasn't
23:42
Speaker 1: figured it out yet. That was the defensive Player of
23:44
Speaker 1: the Month and September Rookie of the month. There's something
23:46
Speaker 1: here with no time on the practice field, no time
23:49
Speaker 1: on the game field. In August, he did that based
23:52
Speaker 1: on pure ability alone. Now you start to mix in
23:55
Speaker 1: knowledge with the ability. Watch out. Yeah, I don't. I mean,
23:58
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to be the best, but
24:01
Speaker 1: there's been that many guys. Not a preposterous statement that
24:05
Speaker 1: quickly who look, can you go? I'm using not a
24:07
Speaker 1: rookie guy. This kid is special, yes, and certainly doesn't
24:12
Speaker 1: act like a rookie so well rounded, just the way
24:13
Speaker 1: he carries himself to and everything every aspect of the game.
24:16
Speaker 1: All right, Mike, he will he won't. He might is
24:18
Speaker 1: Art and Key. He will play at outside linebacker. He
24:22
Speaker 1: practiced there yesterday with Traybon Walker and Josh Allen. And
24:25
Speaker 1: that's because Caleb and Chason is going on injured reserve.
24:28
Speaker 1: Calebon might come back at some point in the season,
24:30
Speaker 1: but he will be placed on injured reserve, so they
24:32
Speaker 1: need more bodies here that will be Art and Key.
24:36
Speaker 1: He won't be the superstar outside linebacker that we think
24:39
Speaker 1: Traymon Walker can be and that Josh Allen will get
24:41
Speaker 1: to be. But it's a it's a great thing for
24:44
Speaker 1: art and Key to have this versatility where he can
24:46
Speaker 1: shift to this and fill a spot, and he's really
24:48
Speaker 1: excited about this. I talked to him in the locker
24:50
Speaker 1: room yesterday and he played outside linebacker in college and
24:53
Speaker 1: he was so looking forward to getting back to the
24:55
Speaker 1: position he played in college. And he said he was
24:57
Speaker 1: fired up when they told him he was making the
24:58
Speaker 1: shift and he might just stay there. This is a
25:01
Speaker 1: guy that was a big free agency signing. He was
25:03
Speaker 1: a huge storyline in training camp, a really talented player
25:06
Speaker 1: that added depth to this defense. And now we're seeing
25:09
Speaker 1: that depth come to fruition. Right when something like this happens.
25:11
Speaker 1: To have a guy that you can plug and play
25:13
Speaker 1: is huge. Well, I think I think he probably does
25:15
Speaker 1: stay there because they signed Leadbetter and Barry back to
25:18
Speaker 1: the roster, who are bigger guys. Um it. It would
25:21
Speaker 1: seem to me with Calebon down for some time, I
25:23
Speaker 1: don't know how long it's going to be, but it
25:24
Speaker 1: didn't sound like he's going to be come rushing back
25:26
Speaker 1: to put Key back there, who I think just hasn't
25:28
Speaker 1: eat Caleban lacks the instinct. He's got the athletics as
25:31
Speaker 1: somebody lacks the instinct um I think arton Key has
25:34
Speaker 1: great instincts for the quarterback. Yeah, and I think it
25:37
Speaker 1: fit in both talking about the free agency class was
25:42
Speaker 1: a really smart free agency class that added the right
25:45
Speaker 1: things in spots. Arten Key's not a superstar, but it's
25:48
Speaker 1: really good free agency signing for this sort of thing.
25:50
Speaker 1: He makes your front seven more swarmy, you know, makes
25:54
Speaker 1: it better. Uh. I also thought all training can in preseason,
25:58
Speaker 1: when everybody just hammered the Jaguars for lack of depth,
26:03
Speaker 1: I thought that whole thing all month was overrated. Uh.
26:06
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were as thin as people thought,
26:08
Speaker 1: and I think arden Key and Tyler Shatley sort of
26:11
Speaker 1: show that. I mean, they're not deepen up. Now, if
26:14
Speaker 1: there's another injury on the interior, or if there's another
26:16
Speaker 1: injury outside linebacker, then all of a sudden, you start
26:18
Speaker 1: getting into a thin area. But every team's got that. Uh.
26:22
Speaker 1: This is not the thinnest team, and I think arden
26:24
Speaker 1: Key is a perfect example of that. Ben Bar's being
26:26
Speaker 1: placed on injured reserve as well and will miss the
26:28
Speaker 1: remainder of the season. So the Jaguars getting a little
26:31
Speaker 1: bit banged up, but not like we're seeing across the NFL.
26:33
Speaker 1: As well, so relatively healthy as a whole. We come
26:36
Speaker 1: back on Jaguars Drive Time some Monday's Headlines Today. Jaguars
26:46
Speaker 1: Drive Time on a Thursday morning, predicting the results of
26:49
Speaker 1: a Monday morning. Monday's Headlines Today, Brian, what do you
26:52
Speaker 1: think him? I'm going nine plus three equals question mark
26:56
Speaker 1: nine headline. No, it's not understanding. Well here's one, there's
26:59
Speaker 1: twenty two. It's um it's nine straight losses to the Texans,
27:04
Speaker 1: but three straight wins over the Colds. I think they're
27:06
Speaker 1: gonna win on Sunday equals what do we know? What
27:08
Speaker 1: this team is? In other words, so bad it makes
27:12
Speaker 1: you think. And that's what headlines used to do to
27:14
Speaker 1: people Canton bound, because because I think they're gonna win.
27:21
Speaker 1: Uh And I don't know if I think they're gonna win,
27:25
Speaker 1: but but I want to give them one more chance
27:29
Speaker 1: before I become negative Nelly all season. I don't feel
27:32
Speaker 1: great about it, but I can see a path where
27:35
Speaker 1: Trevor goes up there, does the right thing against this
27:38
Speaker 1: cover too. I mean against the cover three plays that way,
27:42
Speaker 1: there's two. If there's two interceptions, they win, and all
27:45
Speaker 1: of a sudden, every fan is gonna be like I knew,
27:47
Speaker 1: I told you he was good. He's going to you know,
27:50
Speaker 1: there's a little of that jackal and hide Canton bounds,
27:52
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tongue in cheek because people
27:54
Speaker 1: will overreact. If they win this week, people will have
27:57
Speaker 1: them in Super John. Uh. Don't you think should be
28:00
Speaker 1: in the playoffs every year? Now? I mean it will
28:02
Speaker 1: be that. So that's my head. I think a lot
28:06
Speaker 1: of people, me included, were disappointed with the outcome on Sunday,
28:08
Speaker 1: primarily because, as I said yesterday, all the the the
28:11
Speaker 1: interest in this town waiting to take over. It's like,
28:15
Speaker 1: what did you do? Right? Um? And then when you
28:17
Speaker 1: pull back away from it and you listen to Doug
28:19
Speaker 1: in the players by Wednesday, you're like, yeah, I get it.
28:21
Speaker 1: You know, young quarterbacks gonna I just I think this
28:24
Speaker 1: is a you know, wind lows, wind loose kind of season.
28:27
Speaker 1: I think they win. But so I never waiting to
28:29
Speaker 1: get to yours anticipating Here's what just kept driving at
28:32
Speaker 1: me all week. I got an email basically from somebody saying,
28:36
Speaker 1: do you think the players will lose confidence in Trevor
28:40
Speaker 1: if he continues this pattern of being the reason they
28:43
Speaker 1: lost he was a FC Offensive Player of the Week
28:46
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I'm sorry, I'm banging the table. I know. Yeah, no,
28:49
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, correct. But that's if he
28:53
Speaker 1: continues to be this problem. He played his best two
28:55
Speaker 1: games in Week two and then he played in the
28:57
Speaker 1: cold rain that Shellann is still try to get over.
29:00
Speaker 1: How is therapy good? She's still trying to get over that.
29:05
Speaker 1: And so he had one bad game in circumstances against
29:08
Speaker 1: the defense that he just quite couldn't quite figure out
29:10
Speaker 1: that day. Let's relax. Well, hey, look, the players know
29:13
Speaker 1: who can play and who can't, and the players in
29:15
Speaker 1: that locker room believing him because they know we can plug.
29:17
Speaker 1: And my headline is it ain't over this whole entire week.
29:20
Speaker 1: I've read some scripts and some stories that if the
29:23
Speaker 1: Jaguars lose on Sunday, their season is over. Yes, it's dramatic.
29:29
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Yes, the expectations of this
29:32
Speaker 1: being a playoff team and that they can get to
29:34
Speaker 1: those eight nine wins, Yeah, that's over if the Jaguars
29:38
Speaker 1: lose on Sunday. But it's preposterous to say that this
29:40
Speaker 1: season is over. I think they do win on Sunday.
29:42
Speaker 1: But I agree with Brian, it's back and forth. I
29:44
Speaker 1: think it's a win lost type of year. One week,
29:46
Speaker 1: one week. This team started four and seven and Tom
29:50
Speaker 1: Coughlin's head was on the chopping block. They started winning.
29:53
Speaker 1: They didn't stop till they got the a f C
29:55
Speaker 1: title game. Nobody believed that four and seven. Then they
29:57
Speaker 1: were going to win another game. Let alone make it plays,
29:59
Speaker 1: Let alone get to within a game of the Super Bowl.
30:01
Speaker 1: It's never over until you are officially eliminated, until the
30:05
Speaker 1: Fat Lady sings right over when the Germans Bob, I
30:09
Speaker 1: love that movie. I love it alright, Cars Drive time
30:14
Speaker 1: on a Thursday morning. Stay with us on Jaguars dot
30:16
Speaker 1: Com all week and long for your game coverage. We'll
30:18
Speaker 1: see you here right in early Monday morning. See if
30:20
Speaker 1: those headlines came true.