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Joba and the Mouth 2-19-26 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  It it it's the worldwide sports radio network.
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  The Major League Baseball Player Association's executive director
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  Tony Clark was forced to resign from his position after an
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  investigation revealed impermissible benefits nepotism,
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  including an affair with his sister-in-law, as well as more
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  corruption from the now former head of baseball's union.
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  As debates were already expected to be contentious over the new
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  collective bargaining agreement to replace the outdated system
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  that will expire on December 1st of this year, the question is
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  are the players better off without Clark as lucrative labor
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  talks start eating up or will this almost it surely help in
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  bringing about the first baseball strike since 1994?
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  ESP NS Brian Winhorst says LeBron James is likely to head
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  back to the Cleveland Cavaliers next year to finish out his
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  storied career if he is willing to take a big pay cut.
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  Winnorse believes that there's a 99% chance LeBron will team up
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  with Spider, Mitchell and the Boys to make one last run for
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  the King back in his hometown. Will LeBron make the decision to
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  take his talents back to Cleveland or are we being held
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  witness to the final chapter of the NB as all time point leader?
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  And before we call our shots and say all righty then to Woody
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  Johnson and The Jets, we will take a ride on the concrete
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  jungle carousel and let you know what's the scoop with all the
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  teams in the tri-state area on another all gas, no brakes,
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  Wheeling and dealing, styling and profiling.
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  Live Thursday night edition of Jabba and the Man.
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  A significant they're going to have a ton of money to spend why
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  not putting in one of the top three offensive players in the
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  league we're going to be looking at Aaron Judge and saying that
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  he can't win the big game, Michael Jordan said I played 8
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  engine games you don't see the bunk doing that a.
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  Game where? You got to go from the floor.
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  I told you giant things. Saquon Barkley at this.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, it's been a crazy, crazy week.
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  Today marks another day where I went to doctors.
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  I am absolutely one of those guys that don't like going to
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  doctors, seeing dentists. And today I was actually jumping
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  from one doctor to another. Last night we had a meeting and
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  I couldn't make the meeting because I wasn't feeling good.
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  I starting to spit up phlegm. And I know anybody understands
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  when you getting sick, you think that you have, you know, I don't
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  know, you have a cold, you have the flu, you have COVID.
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  Well, last night, I don't know what was wrong with me.
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  So I dozed off. I went to sleep.
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  I winded up waking up at 10:45 PM and I was coughing up green
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  crap and I didn't know what it was.
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  So I was up all hours of the night doing everything to try.
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  I, I mean, how many people have told me to drink peroxide or,
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  you know, gargle peroxide because your throat's hurting
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  you or do other things, drink lemon juice or anything?
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  I I was trying everything, calling friends.
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  My girlfriend's a nurse, so I was asking her what should I do?
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  Try to feel better. So I woke up this morning, I
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  went to a doctor and then I went to a dentist to measure a crown
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  because I am trying to, you know, my teeth, I have very nice
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  teeth. I take good care of it.
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  But over the last couple of years I've, oh, I've had
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  problems with it when it comes to cavities and, and making sure
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  that none of my crowns would break.
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  So today I was measured for another crown and I the one
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  thing I don't know if anybody knows this, I'm allergic to
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  Novocaine. So I cannot have Novocaine.
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  So I, I don't do sleeping gas or whatever the hell they do.
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  So what they do usually I went to a new dentist today because I
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  have a new insurance company. So I, she was like amazed that I
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  wouldn't take anything. And she was like, what, what do
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  you want to do? And I, I was like, do you have
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  any straps? Because they usually strap me to
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  a chair. My old dentist strapped me to a
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  chair because I do it naturally. So they didn't have any straps.
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  She thought I was crazy. Like, I was in like an insane
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  assignment and I said, just drill it.
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  And she's like, Are you sure? And I was like, yeah, drill,
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  drill my drill, drill the cavity out or whatever the hell you
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  doing so we can measure for a crown.
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  So she was doing it and she's like, you OK?
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  You OK? But I, I don't know if anybody
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  knows this. If you've never used Novocaine
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  or you never used any of that stuff, eventually your gums go
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  numb because it it's it's so painful.
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  Your whole body starts to, I mean, you start to sweat all
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  this stuff because of pain. So my body is so used to it.
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  And she's like, just absolutely amazed.
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  She kept stopping. She's like, you OK?
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  You OK? I was like, yeah, just get the
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  whole, get the thing out of my mouth.
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  So she drilled it and she measured it.
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  And at the end of my, my time over there with the dentist, she
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  was like, I, I've never seen that before.
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  I've never been in a patient. The last time I've seen this was
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  my parents when I was in the like the 1970s because they
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  didn't really have all the stuff that they have.
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  Now She's like, I've never seen anybody have, you know, do
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  cavities or even root canals. What do you do with root canals?
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  I said I I've had two root canals one time and, and the
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  last root canal I had, they didn't, they didn't give me any
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  novocaine because I'm allergic to it.
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  I'm definitely allergic to novocaine.
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  Like my face blows up. I'd be rushed to a hospital.
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  I would need an EpiPen for novocaine.
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  So they have all different things they have like sleeping
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  gas or laughing gas or whatever the hell they do.
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  But they, this particular dentist didn't have it.
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  So I was like, just just do it. And she was like, after the, I
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  told Brittany, because Brittany after I got back to the, you
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  know, got back home and she was here collecting all my laundry.
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  She was like, well, what did they do?
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  I said they were drilling out my mouth and shaping up for the
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  crown. She's like, are they, did they
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  give you anything? I said, you know, I'm allergic
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  to novocaine. So she's like, what did they do?
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  I said, they just drilled it out of my mouth.
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  So my mouth went numb and my mouth is starting to just come
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  back and I'm starting to feel that I'm in pain.
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  So I just want to let everybody know I'm here doing the show.
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  But it's I am definitely in pain right now dealing with all the
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  different vibrations on one side of the mouth and the other.
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  Social media. Have you ever gone into a
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  dentist and ever have that done to you?
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  I mean. Obviously not without novocaine.
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  Not without novocaine. I had my wisdom teeth pulled
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  when I was in college. Actually my my wisdom teeth came
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  up so I didn't have to worry about.
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  That Oh, wow. OK, Yeah.
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  So all four of them actually popped out when I was like 1819
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  years. Old yeah, I I think it was after
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  my freshman year in college, I had it pulled with, with the
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  Novocaine. I remember I was like 3 days.
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  I felt very like twisted in my mouth a lot of the time.
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  And then I attempted to front on that Friday, I somehow was able
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  to broadcast a soccer game that my college network was
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  broadcasting. And I I toughed through it, but
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  I definitely was still feeling some of the effects of it.
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  She was like absolutely amazed. Even the nurse that was there or
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  the medical assistant that was, you know, holding my hand, she
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  was like, I have never seen that before.
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  I've never seen somebody not take novocaine, not take
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  anything and deal with the pain that you're probably dealing
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  with. And I'm like, after you get used
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  to it, I start, I realized that I was allergic to novocaine when
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  I was like 22 years old. Wow.
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  So, and I, I remember I was rushed to the hospital because
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  my mom, they all of a face, all of a sudden my face like blew up
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  like literally my lip blew up massively.
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  So I was rushed to the hospital and they, they told me that I'm
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  allergic to novocaine and thank God you were rushed to the
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  hospital. You could be deadly, you know,
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  deathly allergic to it. So I, I, so they gave me, I now
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  I always carry around, I don't know if anybody does this.
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  I carry around an EpiPen because if anything happens, I touch
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  novocaine. I can definitely be allergic to
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  it. So that's the only thing I'm
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  really that I know that I'm allergic to that and certain
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  grass because I've had the I went to the allergy doctor and
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  and they tested me for all those different things.
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  But novocaine is like the one thing that I'm deathly allergic
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  to. My friend Mike, he's allergic to
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  strawberries. If he touches a strawberry, he
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  can. He could.
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  He could die. From my uncle's the same way.
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  He's allergies like 4 different fruits, strawberries,
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  blueberries, I think it's Peaches and pineapple.
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  It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.
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  I didn't believe it until my face blew up.
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  So I'm always worried. I always tell her, you know,
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  make sure there's no novocaine around me.
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  I don't want to be, I don't want to be rushed to the hospital.
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  But that's why in my, in my car, I actually carry an EpiPen.
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  So because I don't know, I mean, who carries around novocaine?
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  I mean, what are the chances you bumping into novocaine?
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  But anything's possible. So I'm always careful when I go
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  to a dentist anyways at 8:30 we were talking to former 12 year
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  Pro Bowl running back I'm at I'm in Green.
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  He's going to be joining us. He's never been on a show.
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  I remember Green when he was playing for the Green Bay
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  Packers, those Brett Favre teams and he was their go to man.
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  One of the more unique running backs of the 90s.
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  He was fun to watch. Looking forward to get him on.
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  Say thank you to the myth because myth reached out to Mr.
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  Green and Green is obliged us. He is going to be joining us a
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  little bit later in the show, but this story has been beating
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  on the surface. I mean, absolutely beating on
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  the surface. Tony Clark resigns as the head
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  of the MLB Players Association ESP.
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  NS Jeff Passan reports that the head of the MLB Players
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  Association, Tony Clark, has stepped down from his position
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  after an investigation uncovering and inappropriate
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  sexual relationship with his sister-in-law who was was a
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  union employee working with Clark in the Arizona offices.
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  Clark's wife's sister, Francis Clark, yes, was the only
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  employee employee outside of Clark that had access to the
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  special. I'm sorry to the specially made
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  league office Clark had built for himself.
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  The inappropriate relationship was uncovered in an ongoing
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  federal investigation by the Eastern District of New York,
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  which apparently started in 2023, the same year the
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  sister-in-law was hired by the union.
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  The Athletic reports that Deputy Executive Director Bruce Meyer,
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  who has been with the MLB since 2022, was the unanimous voted
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  and was unanimously voted as the interim executive director of
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  the MLBPA. The MLBPA voting subcommittee
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  included veteran pitcher Chris Bassett and the best pitcher in
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  the game, Tarik Scubal. Scubal has said he believes that
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  the MLBPA is stronger than ever and believes that Meyer can do
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  just as well, if not better than Clark in contract negotiations.
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  The biggest issues in the CBA seem to revolve around the
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  deferred Dodgers adding Kyle Tucker this offseason, leading
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  to calls for salary cap from owners.
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  The current CBA expires December 1st and the MLBPA says they want
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  to do everything they can to not, I mean not have any games
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  cancelled in 2027 and the season.
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  I will say this, I don't know much about this story besides
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  what has been posted all over social media.
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  It's been a laughingstock, an absolute laughingstock.
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  And it's something that really. But first of all, that beer that
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  Tony Clark has, it's got to go. It's absolutely got to go.
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  It's ugly, ugly as sin. He looks like Santa Claus, you
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  know, lost his best friend. I don't know.
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  He actually looks like an elf, like Santa's elf.
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  Nevertheless, you think about this story and, and there's a
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  lot of scandals, a lot of scandals of power, a lot of
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  these big name owners. How many times have we seen
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  stories from billionaire guys get caught with cheating on
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  their wives or cheating on their their best friends sisters,
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  girlfriend. I mean everything.
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  We've heard so many stories over the years where people use their
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  power to get what they want. Tony Clark has been the voice of
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  the players for many, many years.
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  And you think about the story and, and the backlash that this
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  is going to collect, not only from the league as it's, you
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  know, as a whole, But when you try to compare all the leagues,
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  the NBA, the NHL and the NFL and all the scandals that have
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  happened over the years, this is a scandal that you would be
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  shocked about. Because think about it, Tony
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  Clark ran the MLBPA. He built the Arizona office.
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  He hired his sister. I'm sorry.
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  His wife's sister, right? Am I right?
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  It's his wife's sister. Just to sleep with her.
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  I mean, think about it. Why did he hire her?
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  I mean, she's making $100,000 a year.
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  That's good money. I mean, what is she doing?
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  Probably nothing. What do you need to do at the
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  MLBPAI mean besides negotiate contracts?
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  What is she making? Making phone calls and answering
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  him. She's making 100K, so
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  automatically that would be fishy.
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  But the fact, the fact here is you look at the MLB and the
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  strike which could happen at the end of this year.
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  There's no negotiations. And they wanted to start
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  negotiations September 1st. That's what I've heard.
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  And now you bring in Meyer. Now I know Tarek Scubble came
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  out and he says that it might be in a better position than it
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  ever was with Tony Clark, and that's great.
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  Tarek comes out, he speaks for the players.
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  That's great to hear. But there are more things going
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  on in the MLB that meets the eye.
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  Think about it, when everything that's happened, the betting
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  scandal, the Otani scandals we have seen and it's happened
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  strategically over the last three seasons.
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  And now you you talk about the deferred Dodgers, which
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  everybody is talking about and speaking about, and the fact
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  that the Dodgers have won back-to-back championships.
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  They've won three out of the last six.
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  They've dominated baseball. Why?
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  Because they figured out a way to manipulate the salaries and
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  the salary cap with deferred money.
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  No, deferred money's been around forever, but now the league and
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  owners need to look at this as a problem for baseball because
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  nobody wants to see one team dominate every single year
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  because they're buying players and getting the players to
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  agree. Hey, you know what, We're going
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  to bring you on with a signing bonus of 60 million, but we're
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  not going to pay you for 12 years or we're going to pay you
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  minimum amount of money because we're all about winning
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  championships. And Tony Clark was set up in a
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  position where he was going to be the face of this
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  negotiations. One of the more important times
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  for baseball to hit it out of the park.
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  Think about it, Literally hit it out of the park because baseball
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  has been growing. The WBC is around the corner.
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  This could take baseball to another level.
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  All the stars want to play in the WBAWBC right now.
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  Think about it. Aaron Judge has never been,
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  never played for Team USA, Never.
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  Not, not in his time here in the major leagues.
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  You think about all the players that have agreed to play in the
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  WBC because they they want to play for their stars and
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  stripes. They want to play for their
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  Puerto Rican flag. They want to play for, you know,
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  the Mexican flag, their colors. And it's not like that anymore
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  because baseball, with all the money these players are being
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  divided out to, there is no salary cap.
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  This is the only sport out of the four major sports that
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  doesn't really have a salary cap.
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  And I believe it's been a problem forever.
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  We, we, me and Jabba, off air, have argued this over and over
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  and over again. Finally, Jabba has agreed with
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  me that something needs to be done with the Dodgers.
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  Now, he never said that the baseball's going to need or
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  should push for a salary cap, but even if they negotiate
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  something with the deferred money, there has to be some kind
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  of cap to the salary. And then you, you talk about
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  Clark in this scandal and how it affects the negotiations, while
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  it affects it enormously, because if you look at Meyer,
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  Meyer has not been in these conversations.
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  It's been all Tony Clark. Now you're bringing another
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  front guy, an interim guy. He might not be the guy in the
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  future, but he's there now where he has the player's ear and
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  unanimously he has every single player of the MLBPA behind him.
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  And you wonder if he's put in this position to fail because
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  baseball, especially the owners, are in the driver's seat.
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  They know that they they smell blood and they know that the
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  situation that the MLB players are going to be in in the
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  offseason is either you negotiate a deal that's fair to
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  the owners and fair to the league as a whole, or we're
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  going to go strike and, and the players are.
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  Are going to be pushing for it why because hey, you know what
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  if we're we're in the driver's seat and we're pushing for this
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  the owners are going to try to push this forward when the
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  owners are multi billionaires. Do you think the owners give a
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  crap if they're set out 5060 games this season next season
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  where they're going to get what they want where there is some
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  kind of cap where the players aren't going to be making
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  seventy $80 million a year 100% and Tony Clark was the middle
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  man. He was the guy that was going to
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  be the driver in this, you know on this bus and now the bus is
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  completely crashed with his sister-in-law literally crashed
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  with his sister-in-law. I know everybody makes jokes and
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  there's memes out there that it's going to be really awkward.
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  Thanksgiving and Christmas, great.
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  I I could give a crap about the Clark family and how they get
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  along with one another inside and out of their house.
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  Who's sleeping with whose wife? I mean, this is a soap opera.
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  The fact here is how does this affect the MOB and negotiations
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  when December 1st comes around and it's going to come around
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  quick. It always does.
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  Baseball is going to go quick. We're going to have a new
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  champion at the probably before December.
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  And then we're going to be wondering, where does baseball
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  go? Do they go into 2027?
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  Like what was it 9596 when they went on strike where they missed
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  practically every every part of the season?
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  Or did they come to a negotiation where it makes sense
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  for the owners and it makes sense for the players?
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  And you know, the players are not going to agree to a salary
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  cap. They're just not, absolutely
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  not. So how does this work when you
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  have a new guy in office and he doesn't know where these
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  negotiate conversation, negotiating conversations have
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  gone over the last, I don't know, 62 weeks, seven months
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  because he wasn't in that room. He wasn't in those
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  conversations. He knows about them.
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  The players now have voted him in to put him in that position
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  to figure out how he can negotiate these deals.
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  But negotiations when it comes to multi billion dollar deals
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  are not going to be easy to make.
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  And and again, going back to the Dodgers, the Dodgers have really
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  spun the wheel their way. And everybody's going to say,
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  like Jabba has said over the last couple of months, he says,
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  well, every team can do what the Dodgers did.
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  Not necessarily. When you bring in players like
• 22:44
  Friedman or Betts or Otani, they got to believe that at the time
• 22:49
  when they're sitting with negotiations, they got to
• 22:52
  believe that this team is built good enough to run away with the
• 22:56
  championship. Now at the in the beginning, the
• 22:59
  Dodgers had to negotiate deals with Mookie Betts and Friedman.
• 23:02
  They gave him a a thought or they they set up a platter and
• 23:06
  they had to believe that they were going to finish that food.
• 23:08
  That food was edible enough to finish the season, to finish
• 23:13
  everything off, to win championships.
• 23:15
  Now you think about it and you look at the Tucker deal, it
• 23:20
  works for Tucker. It doesn't work for the league
• 23:22
  Tucker signed. What was it, a 4-5 year deal?
• 23:25
  Four years on 200 and 6200 and 40 million.
• 23:28
  Dollars which you can opt out after the second year.
• 23:30
  So he's getting money up front so he's happy and no matter
• 23:34
  what, if it doesn't work out with the Dodgers, he's in the
• 23:37
  driver's seat 2 years from now where he can opt out and make
• 23:40
  even more money. So to me, the players are, and
• 23:45
  that's why the owners are really forcing their hand on this.
• 23:49
  They're going to force their hand on it because they have no
• 23:52
  control right now. It's the players that have all
• 23:55
  the control because of all the money they're going to be
• 23:58
  bringing in when these contracts contracts come to fruition.
• 24:01
  Think about it. If you're a superstar or even a
• 24:04
  partial superstar in the league, let's say you're the 5th best
• 24:06
  player on that roster. Now you're making those fifth
• 24:10
  players on that roster are making no less than 30 or
• 24:14
  32,000,000 a year and the best players are making 40 or 50
• 24:19
  million a year and it's not sustainable anymore.
• 24:24
  And the owners are looking at that.
• 24:25
  So now you have guys like Tony, Tony, Tony Clark who's been out
• 24:30
  there, he's been in front, he's been on the front line speaking
• 24:33
  for the the players and and trying to figure out how this is
• 24:37
  going to work in negotiations in 2000, at the end of 2026, going
• 24:41
  into the 2027 season. And you wonder after this
• 24:47
  scandal, are the owners in the driver's seat because now the
• 24:51
  players are sitting there. We had a leader, we had a guy
• 24:55
  that just created a huge problem, which has been the now
• 25:00
  it's going to go into the season as the biggest story going into
• 25:04
  the baseball season, you're, you're looking forward for
• 25:06
  pitchers and catchers. And, and, and obviously going
• 25:09
  into the new season and going into spring training, you don't
• 25:12
  want to hear that the strength of the players union is, is
• 25:17
  starting to tip the owner's way. And it is, it's starting to tip
• 25:21
  the owner's way and, and the commissioner works for the
• 25:24
  owners, he doesn't work for the players.
• 25:27
  So the commissioner and and Rob Manfred or Manfred or Manfred as
• 25:32
  Jabba calls him, you sit here and you wonder how does this,
• 25:37
  how is this going to work with a new representative and the
• 25:41
  players trusting this new representative who has no
• 25:44
  understanding of where the negotiations were going?
• 25:47
  I mean, obviously he's going to, he's got all the paperwork.
• 25:51
  He's got all the players that were in those conversations with
• 25:53
  Tony Clark to give him information.
• 25:55
  But he's going to be the guy that's going to be standing
• 25:58
  there and speaking for the players in front of all these
• 26:02
  owners and in front of the commissioner of baseball,
• 26:05
  wondering how do we protect the players and how do we make sure
• 26:10
  there's no strike going into 2027?
• 26:13
  The two things I think Clark really emphasized when he was
• 26:15
  the head of the MLPA was the fact that they weren't going to
• 26:18
  have a salary cap and the pitchers that were injured and
• 26:21
  like I guess some of those selected position players too
• 26:23
  that had long term injuries with Tommy John surgery and stuff
• 26:25
  like that. Those that money was not going
• 26:28
  to come out of the of the GM's pockets, which I think helped
• 26:32
  him get insurance policies. You talked about that with
• 26:33
  Garrett Cole last year when he got hurt, that they would still
• 26:36
  make that money anyway and it wouldn't have to be an unpaid
• 26:39
  thing. And it was a good negotiation at
• 26:40
  the time for compromising in that sense.
• 26:43
  Now you look, you bring in somebody new in Bruce Meyer that
• 26:46
  does not have a lot of experience, is even a deputy
• 26:49
  executive, kind of was a figurehead for a lot of Clark's
• 26:52
  things. Maybe that's why guys like
• 26:53
  Bassett and Schuble believe that they have a still strong union,
• 26:57
  which I do believe they do. It's just a very difficult
• 26:59
  extreme as well when you're judging owners that are I think
• 27:02
  the most extreme in either direction too.
• 27:05
  It's very rare in baseball. I think compared to these other
• 27:07
  sports where you see owners that are on this like good middle
• 27:10
  ground of wanting to pay players reasonably and go from one
• 27:15
  extreme like the Dodgers and go to the other extreme like the
• 27:17
  Pirates that are cheap asses that don't that don't know how
• 27:19
  to control their players and don't pay anyone.
• 27:22
  It's rare that you see an Atlanta Braves, like Houston
• 27:24
  Astros type organization. That's kind of somewhere in
• 27:27
  between. And that's where I think you're
• 27:29
  also looking at the the divide to be still a lockout.
• 27:32
  I think even regardless of who the players association was.
• 27:35
  Do I still trust guys like school ball to be forceful?
• 27:38
  Yeah, because look at how he was in his own contract negotiations
• 27:41
  with the Tigers. They were a big example of that.
• 27:43
  He wanted arbitration case, thankfully, but the Tigers were
• 27:46
  low balling in the whole way. There will be samples of that to
• 27:50
  an extent. Will it be enough to prevent a
• 27:52
  lockout though in this extreme direction?
• 27:54
  I still don't know. I think it was even going to
• 27:56
  happen regardless. And I just really don't know if
• 27:58
  you could trust Bruce Meyer at this point to to save any
• 28:00
  chances of that one. Yes, there are some owners that
• 28:03
  still are going to try to be cheap anyway.
• 28:05
  But there's a lot of owners that are annoyed at what the Dodgers
• 28:07
  are doing now. And that's why I think they're
• 28:09
  still inevitably, I think regardless, going to go on
• 28:11
  strike as it was. There's no doubt baseball is
• 28:14
  going on strike. There's no doubt about it.
• 28:17
  This is just a story that's going to push it for that to
• 28:20
  happen. But Tony Clark and and the story
• 28:23
  and again, we don't know the full story.
• 28:25
  It just came out. Everybody's making jokes.
• 28:28
  It is funny. It's laughable because obviously
• 28:31
  you have a voice, the guy that has been the voice for the
• 28:34
  players for what, 10 years now, eight years now he's been
• 28:37
  running the show and and figure out negotiations.
• 28:40
  Remember, what was it a couple of years ago when we were
• 28:42
  talking about the minor leagues and what the players are making
• 28:45
  and, and Tony Clark was the guy that negotiated them a little
• 28:48
  bit more money. He was the guy that stood there
• 28:51
  and, and spoke about how important paying these AAA guys
• 28:55
  was, was not enough. And, and how are they going to
• 28:58
  take care of their families and, and move forward playing
• 29:01
  professional baseball? How are they going to last in
• 29:03
  the minor leagues to be the next superstar in the major leagues?
• 29:06
  So Tony Clark was the the face of that negotiation.
• 29:10
  Now, you would have expected Tony Clark was going to be the
• 29:13
  guy that's going to change baseball, give baseball an
• 29:16
  opportunity in, in this particular predicament that
• 29:20
  they've put themselves in. And, and, and again, the reason
• 29:23
  why I say the players put themselves in this situation is
• 29:25
  because they don't want to agree to any salary cap.
• 29:28
  They don't want to agree to any of it.
• 29:30
  And then you think about the Dodgers and what the Dodgers
• 29:32
  have done and a lot of the players that we've had on the
• 29:34
  show, not all of them, but most of them have come out and said
• 29:38
  that, say that they agree. If if the Dodgers want to do
• 29:40
  that, it's legal, why shouldn't they be able to do that?
• 29:44
  But here's the problem, since the Dodgers started to do that
• 29:47
  and everybody says, well, everybody can mimic it, that's
• 29:49
  not true. They cannot copycat what the
• 29:52
  Dodgers did. Everybody's got to agree to it.
• 29:54
  The every single player that they're negotiating a deal with
• 29:58
  has to agree to terms on how this is going to work.
• 30:03
  I mean, do you think Mookie Betts was sitting there?
• 30:05
  Now, Mookie Betts got a lot of his money and Friedman, there
• 30:07
  was some deferred money with Betts and Friedman.
• 30:10
  But I, I mean, half of these guys that we've seen over the
• 30:14
  last couple of years have come to an agreement because they
• 30:17
  want other players to come and join them to win more and more
• 30:20
  championships. But here's the problem with
• 30:23
  baseball. If you're expecting these teams
• 30:25
  to win championships and everybody's going to say go back
• 30:28
  to the Yankees in the 90's, the Yankees did not do that.
• 30:31
  I'll go back to it and I am going to stand up.
• 30:34
  Not because I'm a Yankee fan and I'm wearing a Yankee hat.
• 30:37
  That's not true. That's not why I'm sticking up
• 30:39
  for the Yankees. If anybody knows me on the show,
• 30:41
  I am fair about who I think the Yankees are and even all my
• 30:45
  teams. I'm not going to sit there and
• 30:47
  stick up for all my teams and be a Homer.
• 30:49
  I'm not Aaron Fishman. I'm just not.
• 30:53
  But here's the facts. Easy.
• 30:55
  That's true. I'm not Aaron Fishman.
• 30:57
  You're wearing a Yankee hat. But you know, you're right.
• 31:01
  Nobody wants to be. But here's the fact.
• 31:04
  I'm just, I'm speaking the truth here.
• 31:06
  I, I, I, I want to go into why I think the Yankees cannot be
• 31:11
  compared to what the Dodgers are today.
• 31:13
  One, the New York Yankees built around a core.
• 31:16
  They built around players they drafted over the years.
• 31:20
  You talk about how you define an organization, you got to define
• 31:24
  it in the minors. The Yankees brought in, I'll say
• 31:26
  it again, Derek Jeter, they drafted Bernie Williams, they
• 31:29
  drafted Andy Pettitte, they drafted Mariano Rivera, they
• 31:33
  drafted Jorge Posada. They built around a core of five
• 31:37
  players. They call it the core 4, but
• 31:39
  they were really five players. And what they did is they
• 31:42
  developed those players and then brought veterans around them.
• 31:45
  Were successful, a success, successful in their professional
• 31:50
  spots in the past or weren't as successful with their teams like
• 31:55
  Scott Brosius, who was a good player but not a great player
• 31:58
  until he went to the Yankees and they brought them to a team that
• 32:02
  had good camaraderie and and that changed everything.
• 32:05
  Scott Brosius became a subpar player at best to a playoff MVP.
• 32:11
  OK, you talk about guys like Charlie Hayes, a journeyman Wade
• 32:16
  Boggs, Hall of Famer. But at the tail end of his
• 32:18
  career, he played for Tampa, he played for obviously the Red
• 32:21
  Sox, played for the Yankees. His career was pretty much after
• 32:25
  he turned 3233 years old, his career was pretty much jumped
• 32:29
  from one team to another and try to figure out how to win a
• 32:32
  championship, which he never won with Boston.
• 32:35
  So you think about all the players, that's just some Rodger
• 32:38
  Clements, David Wells, I could go on.
• 32:39
  Jimmy Key, I could go on and on and on with some of the players
• 32:43
  they brought to this organization.
• 32:44
  What the Yankees did was completely different and
• 32:47
  everybody says they bought their players.
• 32:48
  They only bought their players in 2009.
• 32:51
  Me and Job. I've had that conversation
• 32:53
  again. Think about it.
• 32:54
  AJ Burnett, remember him. Mark Teixeira, remember him.
• 32:59
  CC Sabathia, remember him? They spent $500 million in an
• 33:03
  offseason because they wanted to win a championship.
• 33:06
  Actually, Hal and Hank wanted to win a championship for their
• 33:09
  father, who passed away in 2010, 2011.
• 33:12
  They wanted to make sure that their father had an opportunity
• 33:15
  to experience another championship before he parted
• 33:18
  ways with the earth. And they did that.
• 33:21
  But when they made a move for Alex Rodriguez, Alex Rodriguez
• 33:24
  was thrown to the Yankees. They failed.
• 33:27
  The Red Sox failed to seal the deal, and the Yankees jump in
• 33:30
  and stole them from them. And over the years, yeah, they
• 33:33
  brought Jason Giambi. They brought players in that
• 33:36
  didn't succeed. But what the Dodgers have done
• 33:39
  is completely different. And you're going to say how?
• 33:42
  How is it different? Simple.
• 33:43
  It's very simple. The Dodgers have one guy they
• 33:46
  drafted on their complete roster and in their lineup.
• 33:50
  Do you know who that is, Speedy? Π has, I believe.
• 33:53
  No, it's their catcher. Oh, Smith.
• 33:55
  Smith is their guy. He, he's the guy.
• 33:58
  He was the face of that offense over the last, last couple of
• 34:02
  years. They brought, they drafted
• 34:03
  Smith. They brought they, they put
• 34:05
  Smith centerfold as their their guy that they're, I guess they
• 34:08
  built around from their organization.
• 34:10
  And then who did they bring in? They brought in stars.
• 34:13
  They brought in good players, Hernandez, Edmonds, they brought
• 34:16
  in all these guys, Friedman bats, Otani.
• 34:20
  That's what they did. They bought their way into a
• 34:23
  championship. Look at their pitching staff.
• 34:27
  Are any of those guys guys that were developed by the Dodgers?
• 34:31
  No, they were not. So when you look at the Dodgers
• 34:34
  and you compare the Dodgers to the Yankees, they're
• 34:36
  uncomparable. They're uncomparable because
• 34:40
  what the Yankees did in the 90s, nobody thought was ever going to
• 34:43
  be matched. Why?
• 34:44
  Because baseball is so different now with the rule changes and
• 34:49
  even with 162 games, a lot of these managers aren't pitching
• 34:53
  them every fifth day. They're pitching them every 6th
• 34:55
  or 7th day because they want to save their arms for the
• 34:58
  playoffs. It's different.
• 35:00
  It's completely different because of analytics war.
• 35:03
  As we know, we're trying to figure out how analytics bring
• 35:07
  baseball to the forefront of professional sports, which it
• 35:11
  has been over the years. I got to give baseball a little
• 35:13
  bit of credit because they designed ways of adding new
• 35:16
  statistics and data that makes you sick to your stomach.
• 35:20
  It really does. I am not a statistician.
• 35:23
  I'm not a data analysis guy, but I sit here and I you're telling
• 35:26
  me what all these different analytics are different things
• 35:30
  that have been brought to the forefront that help baseball
• 35:34
  recognize you as a defensive player, a base dealer or a power
• 35:38
  hitter. It makes you sick to your
• 35:39
  stomach. And then you have guys like Tony
• 35:41
  Clark who sits in the back end making all the money and he's
• 35:46
  the guy that sits there and listens to the players woes.
• 35:49
  That sits there and gives the players some information of what
• 35:52
  the owners are saying about them and then goes there and pretty
• 35:56
  much sleeps with your wife or sleeps with your girlfriend or
• 35:59
  sleeps with your aunt or, you know, sleeps with whoever.
• 36:02
  I mean, it's pathetic. And now baseball, and I'll say
• 36:06
  this, the players union, it it it's to me, it's set up in a way
• 36:10
  where I don't know if Myers was the right guy unanimously being
• 36:15
  picked maybe as a puppet to the players.
• 36:17
  Maybe that's what it is. Unanimously he was picked
• 36:19
  because, hey, you know what? We're going to tell you what to
• 36:22
  say, Meyer, and you're going to do what we tell you to do and
• 36:24
  you're going to make millions and millions of dollars.
• 36:26
  If it doesn't work out well, we'll find some other idiot to
• 36:29
  do that too. So I think it's a big problem
• 36:32
  and I don't know how this is going to work for the players
• 36:35
  when these owners, these multi billionaires are sitting there
• 36:37
  with their lawyers and telling you go after yourself.
• 36:40
  We're going to we're we're going to drive a seat now tell Tony
• 36:43
  Clark to go sleep with your wives.
• 36:45
  Go go tell them to sleep with your aunts or uncles.
• 36:49
  It to me, it's really, really bad for baseball.
• 36:52
  This is not a story like betting on baseball or steroids as
• 36:56
  everybody blew it out of proportion.
• 36:58
  But this is bad. Really bad, yeah.
• 37:00
  Again, you also mentioned the discrepancy of contracts too in
• 37:03
  baseball. That I think is also a bigger
• 37:04
  extreme. I'm not saying obviously,
• 37:06
  obviously the Dodgers are one extreme into the other, but I
• 37:08
  think it seemed like the Giants, obviously they're paying Rafael
• 37:10
  Devers a ton of money, but their next biggest contract is not
• 37:12
  great. And like you said, how much is
• 37:14
  the fourth or fifth highest paid player on the team making?
• 37:16
  It might be like 15,000,000 a year or 20 million a year if
• 37:20
  anything. And then even the lower market
• 37:21
  team. So they might have that one big
• 37:22
  contract and they just have a big drop off after that too.
• 37:26
  And that's been a problem for a while.
• 37:27
  That was even before we're talking about this with the
• 37:29
  deferred money, with the lockout.
• 37:31
  I think that was even happening before that were remember how
• 37:33
  long it took somebody like Eric Hosmer to sign when he signed,
• 37:36
  before he signed with the Padres and it took him until the end of
• 37:39
  that, that spring training. The Yankees did that with
• 37:42
  Mayhew, I believe when they signed him too.
• 37:43
  Like they took forever. It really took to the end of
• 37:46
  that because I just weren't sure because he was a not a power
• 37:48
  guy. He was a bat batting champion.
• 37:50
  Obviously he was a good, great defensive player when the
• 37:52
  Yankees brought him in and then they settled on A7 year
• 37:55
  $81,000,000 deal, which at the time seemed like a bargain,
• 37:57
  maybe didn't age well, but he still was a pretty good Yankee
• 38:00
  for the most part until maybe the last couple years.
• 38:02
  And that's the problem I think that I think MLB has because
• 38:05
  they want to pay those stars, especially the younger stars.
• 38:07
  They want to pay them all very quickly.
• 38:09
  And that's why you're seeing obviously a Braves model that I
• 38:11
  think other teams are now starting to replicate, but took
• 38:14
  a while for them to replicate. I think Fish, you brought up
• 38:16
  with the A's recently. They did it with Brent Rooker,
• 38:20
  they did it with Langoliers. They they've done it with
• 38:22
  they've done it with Jacob Wilson.
• 38:23
  I think it was the one you were talking about.
• 38:25
  And now I you want to see teams replicate that to an extent with
• 38:29
  younger teams if they're going to be continuing to have a
• 38:31
  payroll discrepancy. But now with the potential
• 38:34
  lockout looming, like, do you want all that money going
• 38:36
  against you when you don't even know how these players develop
• 38:38
  if they take a year off from baseball?
• 38:39
  So there's a lot of factors in with a lot of different young
• 38:41
  teams and just a lot of teams all in different places.
• 38:44
  Yeah, no fool over there in, in I guess not Oakland anymore, I
• 38:47
  guess Sacramento for the time being.
• 38:50
  They they've jumped on that Soderstrom, Lawrence, Butler,
• 38:53
  other guys they've they've locked up.
• 38:56
  It's a smart model. The Braves did, it didn't work
• 38:58
  out for them because everyone got hurt this past year and they
• 39:00
  had some down years, but they've been really competitive because
• 39:03
  of that model without a top payroll.
• 39:05
  But this is the the worry, right, Errol?
• 39:07
  Now Tony Clark's gone, Meyer's in there.
• 39:10
  He's only been with baseball for three years, right?
• 39:12
  Since 20/22/23. Whatever it was as the deputy,
• 39:16
  how well is he going to represent the fact that the
• 39:18
  players have certain wants as well in this negotiation?
• 39:22
  It's not just this deferred money with the salary cap.
• 39:25
  It's also, you know, like revenue sharing.
• 39:29
  How is that going to work going forwards with the streaming
• 39:31
  dollars? That's one of the main issues,
• 39:34
  how the players are going to get compensated for that, how that's
• 39:37
  going to replace the money from the regional networks.
• 39:40
  Like yes, network and SNY are still doing well, but throughout
• 39:44
  the country these places have failed.
• 39:46
  Like, I think it's just like TB, like the Turner stations have
• 39:48
  still done. And obviously they're, they're
• 39:50
  bigger than a regional station, but there's, there's very few
• 39:54
  like baseball things that have survived.
• 39:57
  So the model is being changed and there's a lot of fights
• 40:00
  about how that money is going to go and who's got the players
• 40:03
  interests. Not a good look for the players.
• 40:05
  And they're probably better off holding out than even trying to
• 40:09
  make a deal right now if this is what it is, Because I, I, I'm
• 40:12
  really concerned. And then Clark on top of it.
• 40:14
  Man, it reminded me immediately of the Bobby Petrino story years
• 40:17
  ago. When he's like trying to get
• 40:19
  away on the motorcycle, he gets in an accident with his mistress
• 40:22
  and then they try to cover it up like, you know, he didn't have a
• 40:25
  mistress who he was pretending to his assistant.
• 40:27
  You know what I mean, Pet? Getting paid on the school dime.
• 40:29
  That's exactly what he did here, except it's even worse.
• 40:32
  It's so much worse because they have these labor talks coming up
• 40:36
  and now he's screwing the entire league of players on top of
• 40:39
  screwing his wife's sister. And then think about it.
• 40:42
  You're not just breaking up your marriage, you're breaking up
• 40:46
  like family. You're wrecking your first
• 40:48
  cousins, your second cousins, your aunts and the aunts and
• 40:51
  uncles in there. Like everything that you're like
• 40:53
  connected to is screwed up. And that is just I mean, that's
• 40:58
  all time scumbag behavior and he's got to go and I don't they
• 41:03
  did it. They put Meyer in because I
• 41:05
  think they're really desperate. They don't know what to do, He.
• 41:07
  Stepped down. It's not like they fired him.
• 41:09
  He stepped down right away. When this story came out, he
• 41:12
  ran, He made sure that he gave his papers in and he wants to
• 41:15
  disappear off the face of the earth because he not only is his
• 41:19
  family brought to the forefront and his wife, I feel bad for his
• 41:21
  wife because she's she's in the middle of this.
• 41:25
  She has nothing to do with it. And and she's in the middle of
• 41:28
  it. Think about this.
• 41:29
  His wife and her sister. OK, think about that.
• 41:33
  How how disrespectful can you get when it comes to being, you
• 41:39
  know, a man And and you're going to go out there and you're,
• 41:42
  you're all about when you get married, You're, you're there to
• 41:44
  death through your part. And then you're sleeping with my
• 41:47
  sister. How long has this been going on?
• 41:49
  You know, so think about it. And maybe this was the whole
• 41:52
  point of why you think about baseball as a whole.
• 41:56
  All the different allegations that we've seen over the last
• 41:59
  couple of years, how baseball's brushed everything under the
• 42:01
  rug. I was thinking, hey, this story
• 42:03
  came out. If if this story never came out,
• 42:05
  does baseball brush this under the rug?
• 42:08
  Because the Otani stuff, I mean, Tony Clark is not Shay Otani.
• 42:12
  Shay Otani is the national phenom.
• 42:15
  He's a superstar all over the world.
• 42:17
  So baseball made sure they protected their young superstar
• 42:20
  and made sure that they can continue making billions and
• 42:23
  billions of dollars. This guy the baseball don't give
• 42:25
  a crap about. So what did baseball do?
• 42:27
  Baseball and the owners, we're excited about this.
• 42:30
  Why? Because now they don't have to
• 42:32
  deal with Tony Clark anymore. They don't have to deal with his
• 42:34
  craziness and, and him stepping up there and, and, and telling
• 42:38
  the owners to go kiss that kiss their asses.
• 42:40
  No, now the owners are sitting there and saying, OK, we're in
• 42:44
  the driver's seat. We don't have to deal with Tony
• 42:46
  anymore. And now we have to deal with
• 42:48
  some rookie who knows nothing about the position he's in.
• 42:52
  And and you have a bunch of billionaires saying, OK, this is
• 42:55
  what we're going to do. You don't like it, Well, tough.
• 42:57
  This is the deal we're giving you.
• 42:58
  If not, what you guys can go to strike.
• 43:00
  We're still going to be in the driver's seat.
• 43:02
  And you guys are going to be asking for scraps because we're
• 43:05
  not going to give it to you the way you have asked over the
• 43:08
  years. Because the union has always
• 43:10
  been in the driver's seat. The players union has always
• 43:13
  been that way. And we we know what happened in
• 43:15
  9596 because of what happened in 9596 is the same thing what
• 43:20
  we've seen over the years. But here's the bad thing.
• 43:22
  We have seen organizations completely fall apart as we know
• 43:26
  what happened to the Expos. The Montreal Expos could not
• 43:29
  afford to miss that season, that year and they did.
• 43:33
  And with being that they lost all that money they had to sell
• 43:36
  the team and eventually Jeffrey Laurie move them to where to
• 43:41
  Washington and in in Montreal. And I believe if the if that if
• 43:46
  9596, it never went to strike baseball, never went to strike
• 43:50
  Montreal. The Montreal Expos would still
• 43:52
  be here. They'd still be a part of the
• 43:54
  major leagues, and probably. They were the best team in the
• 43:56
  league, Errol that year. They were the best team in the
• 43:59
  league, probably would have won the World Series too.
• 44:01
  That's, that's that was my take there.
• 44:03
  I with all the talent that they had, Pedro Martinez and Vladimir
• 44:06
  Guerrero and all those talented players that have Galarrago I
• 44:10
  think was on that team. They had guys that are Hall of
• 44:12
  Famers. They might have had 7.
• 44:14
  Walker. Yes, 7 or 8 Hall of Famers that
• 44:17
  were part of that organization and they were traded away, moved
• 44:20
  away. I remember John Wetland, he was
• 44:23
  the Yankees closer when they won, they won their first
• 44:26
  championship in 96. So the Yankees were absolutely
• 44:29
  in the driver's seat when they got players of that, that Expo
• 44:32
  team. So I'm just saying when you look
• 44:35
  at where baseball's at now, I don't think any teams are in
• 44:37
  those predicaments anymore because there's so much money to
• 44:40
  be made with the new TV deals and, and all, all the different
• 44:44
  ways they can make money off of hats and jerseys and and merch.
• 44:48
  There's no way that any of these teams are in, in bad, a bad
• 44:51
  position where if they miss the season or owners, they miss the
• 44:54
  season, they're they're going to lose out.
• 44:56
  They're not because they own other businesses and they have
• 44:59
  other opportunities to make money.
• 45:01
  It's the players that are going to lose out on this.
• 45:03
  After what Tony Clark did. This is bad.
• 45:05
  This is, this is bad for the players, not the owners, not for
• 45:09
  baseball. And I know everybody's going to
• 45:11
  say, well, the owners want baseball to keep on going.
• 45:13
  And, and I'm, I do believe that I think the owners are behind
• 45:16
  what they want baseball to do in 2000, 26 and 27.
• 45:20
  That's as far as 27 season is, is to have a season.
• 45:24
  Here's the problem. If they miss the season and they
• 45:28
  lose money, they have ways that they can use that through
• 45:31
  insurance policies. There are so many ways that
• 45:34
  these owners are still not going to lose as much.
• 45:37
  But not having a season, the, the fans are going to lose out.
• 45:40
  The players are going to lose out.
• 45:41
  Remember, each player that missed the season, they miss out
• 45:44
  another year of money and another year of compensation
• 45:48
  that that they're going to lose. And you're talking about players
• 45:51
  like Garrett Cole that's going to miss out on $38 million.
• 45:55
  How about, how about Juan Soto, $68 million he's going to miss
• 45:59
  out on. You think Juan Soto wants to
• 46:01
  miss out on $68 million? Not a chance in hell.
• 46:04
  Because if I'm not mistaken, if you go on strike, you don't get
• 46:07
  those contracts, you don't get that money.
• 46:08
  I don't. I don't know if that's true.
• 46:10
  So there's labor lockout. The contracts are null and void
• 46:13
  until they come back. That's right.
• 46:14
  So think about this. Juan Soto misses out on 68,
• 46:19
  $1,000,000. They don't want that.
• 46:21
  Players do not want that. So they thought by having Tony
• 46:25
  Clark negotiate this deal before September 1st, that would put
• 46:29
  them in a driver's seat to have a season in 2027.
• 46:32
  There is no way there. It's going to start the season
• 46:34
  without without going on a strike because they got to pull
• 46:38
  the first of all, you're going into a season and a lot of these
• 46:40
  players want to concentrate on the season.
• 46:43
  The union doesn't want these players to worry about next
• 46:46
  season. They want to worry about this
• 46:47
  season and how they they, they, they fight to, to continue
• 46:50
  making their money and, and get these teams into the playoffs
• 46:53
  and win a championship. So they're not even going to be
• 46:56
  speaking about until September 1st or September, you know, in
• 46:59
  sometime in September when the playoffs are going on and the
• 47:02
  seasons practically over. So unfortunately you're
• 47:06
  wondering as a baseball fan, and I know there's a lot of baseball
• 47:08
  fans, including Speedy, who it's just favorite sport, Josh
• 47:11
  Silverberg, who, which is his favorite sport out of all the
• 47:14
  sports that don't want to see another or one season of their
• 47:18
  God-given lives miss when it comes to baseball and getting a
• 47:22
  chance, Oh, quote, UN quote, the Mets winning the World Series.
• 47:25
  But the Mets and the Dodgers are the reason why this strike might
• 47:28
  go to fruition because of all the money that they've been
• 47:30
  spending and, and, and obviously the deferred money that the
• 47:34
  Dodgers completely have taken. Take an advantage.
• 47:36
  Of yeah, that's aren't smart enough to use deferred money,
• 47:38
  unfortunately. Well, they are actually.
• 47:40
  They did with the contract with Beau Beauchet.
• 47:44
  Finally, after all these big contracts before that, Max Shers
• 47:47
  are Justin Verlander. Yeah, they did.
• 47:48
  So that's the thing though, right?
• 47:49
  Like that's why the owners want a salary cap, because most of
• 47:53
  the owners in the league don't want to do the deferred dollars,
• 47:56
  because what the deferred dollars are is just what stock
• 48:00
  guys do, hedge funds guys do on Wall Street all the time.
• 48:04
  They're just creating future debt against the value of the
• 48:07
  franchise, which isn't worth close to the value.
• 48:10
  So it's just like, it doesn't matter.
• 48:13
  It's like they're trading stocks and the future debt, it doesn't
• 48:17
  apply. They don't have to pay instead
• 48:18
  of revenue sharing the same if it's deferred to a later
• 48:21
  contract. So it's like a loophole that
• 48:23
  they're exploiting. And until other teams do the
• 48:27
  same thing as the Dodgers and leverage their future with debt,
• 48:31
  they're going to keep winning. Or you do a salary capping and
• 48:36
  just nip it in the bud. Or you just say no more deferred
• 48:39
  contracts exceeding this amount of money and all the deferred
• 48:41
  money has to count against both today's salary cap and and then
• 48:44
  the penalty when it you know you're paying it out like Bobby
• 48:47
  Bonilla style. Speaking of deferred, LeBron
• 48:50
  James is back in the tabloids, ladies and gentlemen, ESP.
• 48:54
  NS Brian Windhorst reports that LeBron James has a 99% chance to
• 48:59
  return to Cleveland if he is willing to take a pay cut next
• 49:04
  season. LeBron has a player option on
• 49:07
  his current deal worth about 52.6 million and a full no trade
• 49:12
  clause. Reports say that he's unlikely
• 49:15
  to sign his player option unless he can work work a sign and
• 49:19
  trade with the Lakers to wherever he wants to go.
• 49:24
  Wonder Windhor says that only what the only way the Cavaliers
• 49:29
  would be interested in bringing him back is if he plays for a
• 49:34
  veterans veterans minimum or a deal That would still keep the
• 49:39
  Cavaliers under the mid level tax exception, which next year
• 49:44
  is projected to be just over 14,000,000.
• 49:49
  The Cavaliers still believe that LeBron James can be a highly
• 49:52
  productive player in small spurts, but knows that he is not
• 49:58
  the same two way player for for the regular season.
• 50:02
  Windhor says that Donovan Mitchell is fully on board with
• 50:05
  bringing LeBron James, saying it would be a dream to play with
• 50:10
  somebody he grew up watching. LeBron is averaging 22 points
• 50:15
  per game, 7/7 .1 assists per game, 5.8 rebounds per game with
• 50:21
  a 50.2% field goal percentage in 36 games for the Lakers this
• 50:28
  season. Uh oh, are you hearing this
• 50:32
  ladies and gentlemen? Are the Cavaliers trying to buy
• 50:34
  their way into another championship?
• 50:38
  That's here's the thing, I like LeBron James.
• 50:42
  Everybody thinks that. I hate the guy I write all these
• 50:44
  stories to, to take shots at this man.
• 50:47
  I think he's the second greatest basketball player to ever play
• 50:49
  in the NBA. If you want to make him the
• 50:51
  third, if you think Kareem Abdul Jabbar is there or Magic Johnson
• 50:54
  or Larry Bird, whoever, Will Chamberlain, whoever, Bill
• 50:58
  Russell, you want to put him there at second, Nobody's better
• 51:01
  than Michael Jordan. I don't care what LeBron James
• 51:03
  says today or what he says after he retires 20 years from now.
• 51:07
  He's not better than Michael Jordan, but the Cavaliers with
• 51:12
  the roster they have in play and in place, they can absolutely
• 51:17
  win with LeBron James with Mobley and Mitchell and the
• 51:22
  talent that that James Harden. Now, I don't know how that
• 51:24
  works, but if there's anybody that can play with James Harden
• 51:27
  and get James Harden playing at a top level, it's LeBron James.
• 51:31
  And how about this trading James Harden for Kyrie Irving?
• 51:36
  Would you would you think that's a little outlandish?
• 51:39
  I don't know. Kyrie Irving going back to the
• 51:42
  same team that drafted him. That makes sense.
• 51:45
  Now, I do believe Dallas is going to be looking to trade
• 51:49
  Kyrie Irving if he comes back 100% healthy.
• 51:52
  I do believe that. And why not bring the two guys
• 51:55
  that were there when they won a championship and knocked off the
• 51:58
  Golden State Warriors? LeBron James is a unique
• 52:02
  individual. He is not as defensively savvy
• 52:05
  as he's been over the years. This guy could have won
• 52:08
  defensive player of the year at the top of his game probably
• 52:11
  five times. Never did because at the time
• 52:14
  you had Draymond Green, you had all these guys.
• 52:16
  Go Bear. There is a lot of great
• 52:18
  defensive players in the league. And as good as LeBron is, LeBron
• 52:22
  was the best player in the world.
• 52:23
  They're not going to. Michael Jordan I think is the
• 52:25
  last player I could remember that one defensive player of the
• 52:28
  year, the MVP and won a championship in the same year.
• 52:32
  I I think he's the only player that's ever done that.
• 52:37
  But LeBron James is a guy that you can win with a guy going
• 52:42
  back home to Cleveland, a guy that's been back in Cleveland
• 52:45
  not once, but twice. And now this would be 1/3 time
• 52:49
  and to go and, and try to win a championship with Cleveland.
• 52:52
  And here's the thing, LeBron going over there to Cleveland
• 52:55
  automatically makes him the favorite to come out of the
• 52:58
  East, even with the Knicks as good as they are in position,
• 53:01
  unless they get Giannis. If the Knicks get Giannis, I
• 53:04
  would say the Knicks are probably highly favorites are
• 53:06
  coming out of the East. But if the Knicks don't land
• 53:08
  Giannis or if that doesn't happen, I, I, I would say
• 53:11
  Cleveland is the favorite with the talent that they have over
• 53:14
  there. I don't know how it's going to
• 53:16
  work with the coaching staff, but I, unless LeBron James,
• 53:20
  we've seen this before. We've seen this before with, you
• 53:23
  know, the Cleveland Cavaliers coach over there.
• 53:25
  And you know, I, I love him because I root for him.
• 53:27
  He's a Long Island native, but if LeBron James wants JJ Redick
• 53:32
  there or whoever he wants Tyron Lew was because he's probably
• 53:36
  getting fired at the end of the season.
• 53:39
  Thank you Clippers, but this story that LeBron James wants to
• 53:44
  go home and 9099% chance that he could go home.
• 53:48
  I don't think this is much of a story because it's very
• 53:51
  expected. If LeBron James wants to play
• 53:54
  another year won't be with the Lakers.
• 53:55
  I said that a couple of months ago.
• 53:57
  There's no way LeBron James goes back to the Lakers the way
• 54:00
  they're built. It's Lucas team now.
• 54:02
  It's not his and he knows it. And how do you know it?
• 54:06
  Because during the offseason when Luka Doncha got that
• 54:09
  extension, he was the only one of that his teammates, Lucas
• 54:14
  teammates that didn't show up to the press conference.
• 54:16
  Everybody else did, which tells you that LeBron James don't give
• 54:20
  a crap, but LeBron James loves Cleveland.
• 54:25
  Did you see his final game in Cleveland this year?
• 54:28
  Him going back home and they have all the videos and, and all
• 54:31
  the, the success that he had over there.
• 54:33
  The King coming from, you know, the, the place that he grew up
• 54:37
  in. It's, it's a great story.
• 54:40
  I'm not taking shots at LeBron James's success.
• 54:42
  I mean, if you look at his numbers, 22, seven and five,
• 54:45
  it's nothing to sneeze about. I mean, this guy, I mean, he's
• 54:49
  40 something years old and he's putting up these kind of
• 54:51
  numbers. It's pretty amazing.
• 54:54
  But here's the thing, as good as LeBron James has been in the
• 54:58
  year in his career and what he stood for, for the league and,
• 55:02
  and everything of that magnitude, how many things has
• 55:06
  LeBron James done throughout his last 10 years that make you
• 55:10
  shake your head? The brawny James story is a is a
• 55:13
  story that's going to be held in, in many people's opinions,
• 55:17
  probably the for the next 20 years.
• 55:19
  This is not the fact that LeBron wants to play with his son Bryce
• 55:23
  and and maybe Bryce gets drafted by Cleveland.
• 55:26
  I I don't see it, especially if LeBron goes there and Donovan
• 55:29
  Mitchell and and all them are there because Bryce is expected
• 55:32
  to be a lottery pick. Not this year, but maybe next
• 55:35
  year. So I don't know how that works
• 55:38
  unless somehow Cleveland negotiates a deal or LeBron
• 55:40
  James spins his magic wand and and gets Bryce to play with him
• 55:46
  over there and gets Bronie to be traded over there with from the
• 55:48
  Lakers, which I don't think anybody wants Bronie.
• 55:50
  So that might be a shoe in for LeBron James to make that move.
• 55:54
  But the league is run by LeBron James.
• 55:57
  He's run the league so to think that that he has a no trade
• 56:02
  clause and him taking less money wouldn't be beneficial for his
• 56:05
  brand, it absolutely would. Think about it, LeBron James
• 56:09
  doesn't get the 52.6 million he takes a pay cut.
• 56:12
  Let's say he takes 15,000,000 next year, Mike, 15,000,000.
• 56:18
  They get a chance to win a championship and he wins his
• 56:20
  fifth championship, which ties Kobe Bryant.
• 56:23
  You know how much money that brings to his forefront in the
• 56:26
  future? With all his endorsements and
• 56:28
  all the sponsors that he has, you're talking about hundreds of
• 56:31
  millions of dollars. So if you look at it in LeBron
• 56:34
  James's way, the guy's 42 years old, going to be 42.
• 56:39
  He's a multi billionaire, He's a richest athlete in professional
• 56:42
  sports right now. What does he own?
• 56:44
  He owns his own production company.
• 56:46
  He owns everything. His own podcast, which is
• 56:49
  probably one of the top five podcasts for basketball in the
• 56:52
  country. I mean, everything the guy
• 56:54
  touches turns to gold. So do you think unless he's that
• 56:58
  greedy, and I don't think LeBron James is as greedy as people
• 57:00
  think he is when it comes to money, because he's going to
• 57:02
  make money hand over fist no matter what.
• 57:05
  He's got his own insurance company so he doesn't need 52.6
• 57:10
  million but if his greed is is going to be there then he would
• 57:14
  take it if it was Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh.
• 57:16
  I don't see Chris Bosh or Dwyane Wade taking a pay cut to go and
• 57:20
  play for his hometown LeBron. LeBron James 100%, 100%.
• 57:26
  If LeBron James has an opportunity to go over there and
• 57:30
  and get to play with his home hometown.
• 57:32
  I know he doesn't. He's not a big fan of the owner.
• 57:35
  We all know that. But he gets to go and play with
• 57:37
  Donovan Mitchell and that kind of talent and they don't have to
• 57:40
  trade anything. It's another John Tavares move.
• 57:43
  I mean, but John Tavares never won.
• 57:45
  LeBron James goes there. He's almost a shoe in.
• 57:48
  Unless Giannis goes to the Knicks to be the contender to
• 57:51
  come out of the East. Yeah, and we talked about the
• 57:53
  NBA being rigged, its angle, too.
• 57:55
  You know, the refs are going to be on their side.
• 57:57
  Oh, we want this amazing story. Yeah.
• 57:59
  You want this amazing storyline if this is Lebron's final year,
• 58:02
  to go win it with this core in Cleveland once again, because
• 58:05
  that was the storylines before. That's why the Cavs and the
• 58:07
  Warriors played four straight years in the Finals because
• 58:09
  those two teams just got very popular.
• 58:11
  LeBron versus Steph Curry, who's the, quote, UN quote, face of
• 58:13
  the era, which I got overblown a bit because LeBron was always
• 58:17
  better than Steph Curry. But nevertheless, there were
• 58:19
  people that like our friend Owen, that believe that Steph
• 58:22
  Curry was better. It's the young fan.
• 58:24
  They loved the fact that this guy who came into the league, by
• 58:27
  the way, grew 2 inches after the fact he came to the NBA.
• 58:30
  Remember when he came into the NBA, he was like 6 foot less
• 58:33
  than he was almost at six one, He grew like 2 1/2 inches over
• 58:38
  the last couple of years and now he's 6 foot 3.
• 58:40
  So he wasn't the guy that's going to do these tomahawk
• 58:43
  dunks. He wasn't a Jaylen Bronson that
• 58:46
  can get up there and jam the ball.
• 58:47
  As a matter of fact, I think Steph Curry in his career has
• 58:50
  jammed the ball no more than 8 or 10 times.
• 58:52
  Yeah, I probably I was it's funny because I was I was
• 58:55
  editing the you guys you have the Chris Paul short on Monday
• 58:57
  would dial it up and I was editing the video for that.
• 58:59
  There was like 1 pop up video that said every time Chris Paul
• 59:02
  tried to dug and Chris Paul was probably not the same size as
• 59:04
  Steph Curry. So think about that.
• 59:05
  But yeah, it's one of those things where with the Cavs right
• 59:09
  now, I think Kobe Altman, the GM is trying to not turning it into
• 59:12
  the LeBron has to control everything types in now.
• 59:15
  Obviously it's gonna be for one year if they do take this kind
• 59:17
  of thing on. And financially is it maybe I I
• 59:20
  mean, I I guess maybe there's a chance for us.
• 59:22
  How about? This if he's willing to take
• 59:24
  less money and you want to spread out the contract and you
• 59:28
  want to make sure that he gets 52.6 million, you get, you
• 59:32
  extend him, you give him one year with a player's option and
• 59:35
  he gets what, twenty, 22 million or 20 million next year or
• 59:40
  19,000,000 next year. And then his final year on his
• 59:43
  farewell tour, he makes 23 million.
• 59:46
  He's not making 56 or 52,000,000, but he's making,
• 59:49
  what, $15 million less? And he gets a farewell tour and
• 59:53
  he gets all the options. And.
• 59:55
  And by the way, it's a chance to win another title, which would
• 59:57
  tie Kobe Bryant, maybe wins two of them and ties Michael Jordan,
• 1:00:02
  where he says I'm the greatest, I'm the greatest.
• 1:00:05
  So think about that, yeah. That's where I feel like he
• 1:00:07
  might still have to make that kind of move anyway because this
• 1:00:09
  core for the Cavs has grown pretty organically outside of
• 1:00:12
  obviously the Donna Mitchell trade was a trade, but this
• 1:00:14
  Corey grown pretty organically before that.
• 1:00:17
  But they've had issues in the playoffs.
• 1:00:18
  They lost against the Pacers last year when they were the
• 1:00:20
  number one seed. They were the most efficient
• 1:00:22
  team, I believe, besides the Nuggets two years ago in NBA
• 1:00:25
  history and they still lost in five games to granted, they were
• 1:00:29
  kind of banged up, but they still lost in five games to an
• 1:00:31
  Indiana Pacers team that they had a lot more talent than last
• 1:00:33
  year. And this year they finally got
• 1:00:35
  some good depth of three-point shooting.
• 1:00:36
  So it is a good chord that has a chance.
• 1:00:38
  But if they still fail in the playoffs again, regardless of,
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  yeah, they're not the better team than the Knicks or the
• 1:00:42
  Pistons or anything like that, but it's still an East that we
• 1:00:45
  know is not as good as the West. So if they don't win the East
• 1:00:48
  again this year, they might feel like, OK, we need a guy that can
• 1:00:50
  still elevate themselves in the playoffs.
• 1:00:51
  And James Harden definitely is not going to be that guy.
• 1:00:54
  And I agree with you, I think James Harden for Kyrie Irving
• 1:00:56
  swap makes a lot of sense because Kyrie Irving is not the
• 1:00:59
  usage rate guy that James Harden is.
• 1:01:01
  And Donovan Mitchell can definitely be helped by that.
• 1:01:04
  And obviously they're going to fans are going to embrace it.
• 1:01:06
  The fans love LeBron, obviously the fans love Kyrie.
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  And if they can make the money work, which I think they can, I
• 1:01:10
  think Altman is a smart enough guy to make that kind of thing
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  work. It definitely makes sense if
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  LeBron is willing to take it worse.
• 1:01:16
  He is going to take it because it's going to help him build his
• 1:01:19
  brand over there in Cleveland. Remember all the billboards they
• 1:01:22
  had over there when LeBron James was there?
• 1:01:24
  King is back over Cleveland, and everybody knows that Cleveland's
• 1:01:28
  a great time a town. We've heard it from Goody, we've
• 1:01:31
  heard it from Jabba. They all said Cleveland's a
• 1:01:33
  wonderful place to be when it comes to sports.
• 1:01:36
  So the billboards would the King is back, Your Majesty is back to
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  win another title. I mean, it would be huge for his
• 1:01:44
  brand. So to sit here and say, oh,
• 1:01:47
  well, he's going to lose about $40 million.
• 1:01:49
  Is he really? I don't see it.
• 1:01:51
  And LeBron James owns restaurants over there in
• 1:01:53
  Cleveland. He's from Akron.
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  I mean, I mean, it's great. Even some of the, I mean, sorry,
• 1:01:59
  I, I was saying, I would say contract, but not contracts.
• 1:02:02
  All the different school activities he's built in the
• 1:02:05
  summertime for these children over there in Akron and in
• 1:02:08
  Cleveland would be beneficial for him to be there and promote
• 1:02:12
  it and build it even more. So those organizations, those
• 1:02:15
  sponsors, those investors that are helping LeBron James take it
• 1:02:19
  to another level. What do you think they're going
• 1:02:20
  to do? They're going to pay him.
• 1:02:22
  So he's not losing anything. He's gaining for, and I'll tell
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  you this, Le Bron James is one of the more unique and
• 1:02:31
  intelligent business owners. He the guy knows how to run a
• 1:02:36
  unique business. He wanted to create a production
• 1:02:39
  company. He loves Space Jam.
• 1:02:40
  He grew up a Michael Jordan. Well, he's the king.
• 1:02:42
  He's the best player the NBA seen since Michael Jordan in his
• 1:02:45
  eyes. So what did they do?
• 1:02:47
  They remade the Space Jam saga and who did they bring in?
• 1:02:51
  They brought in his production company to run it.
• 1:02:54
  Now you have NBA players like how about this Steph Curry, the
• 1:02:57
  GOAT? I mean that new, that new
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  cartoon that they've they've put together and Steph Curry's
• 1:03:03
  written it and he's been, I don't think he's a voice in it,
• 1:03:05
  but he's like the director of it.
• 1:03:07
  I mean, now all these NBA players are now have their hands
• 1:03:10
  dipped into all these different businesses and ways that they
• 1:03:13
  can bring their brands to the forefront.
• 1:03:16
  LeBron James knows how to build a brand.
• 1:03:18
  He's copycatted as everybody has of Michael Jordan.
• 1:03:22
  Air Jordan is not just a name, It's not just a brand.
• 1:03:25
  It's a livelihood you have if you don't own a sneaker, a pair
• 1:03:29
  of sneakers, if you don't own a pair of Jordans.
• 1:03:31
  Every one of us, I guarantee you, every one of us, or at
• 1:03:35
  least I would say 90% of Americans, own a pair of
• 1:03:39
  Jordans. Why?
• 1:03:41
  Why? Because of who Michael Jordan
• 1:03:43
  was, what he stood for, dominance, and who he is as a
• 1:03:47
  player. It's pretty unique.
• 1:03:49
  It really is. There's nothing more to say and
• 1:03:52
  nothing to argue about that. As far as the LeBron James saga
• 1:03:55
  and the story, the only thing I could say and finish off as far
• 1:03:59
  as I'm concerned with LeBron James is if LeBron James
• 1:04:03
  believes that the Cleveland Cavaliers have a chance to win a
• 1:04:08
  championship if he goes there, why wouldn't he sign an
• 1:04:11
  extension to try to win #6 Think about that.
• 1:04:15
  He is always said that he's the greatest basketball player of
• 1:04:19
  all time. That's what he says.
• 1:04:20
  He's argued that he's been on the SPS numerous amount of times
• 1:04:24
  and he's got his own friends and family and even his old
• 1:04:28
  teammates like Carmelo Anthony who played with him at this tail
• 1:04:30
  end of his career or even Chris Paul or Dwyane Wade or Chris
• 1:04:35
  Bosh that believe cold heartedly that LeBron James is the
• 1:04:38
  greatest basketball player of all time.
• 1:04:40
  Well, if that is true, why aren't you trying to break the
• 1:04:44
  the greatest basketball player as we believe of all time?
• 1:04:48
  Michael Jordan's number of six, That doesn't mean that he's
• 1:04:52
  going to be compared to Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan
• 1:04:55
  won 3 championships back-to-back times and did it in a way that I
• 1:04:59
  don't think we'll ever see a player do it.
• 1:05:01
  But the fact here is if he wants to consider it and he wants to
• 1:05:05
  challenge people on the argument, well, how many
• 1:05:08
  championships you have? You got to win 6, you got to win
• 1:05:11
  6. And that's all I'm going to say
• 1:05:12
  about LeBron James as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:05:15
  And I, I think that that's an interesting take.
• 1:05:17
  And I think if I was LeBron James's agent or I was, which by
• 1:05:21
  the way, I don't even think his best friend.
• 1:05:23
  Oh, is that rich, Paul? Anymore, I don't think Rich Paul
• 1:05:25
  is his. Agent anymore mighty have fallen
• 1:05:27
  or. I think.
• 1:05:29
  I think they're no longer working together as far as I'm
• 1:05:31
  concerned. Allegedly mighty have fallen.
• 1:05:33
  Rich, Paul. I'm not positive on that, but I
• 1:05:36
  I was reading a story. I don't think Rich Paul and him
• 1:05:38
  are working together anymore. And they and they grew grew up
• 1:05:41
  together as far as Rich Paul pretty much made a name for
• 1:05:44
  himself. Oh, they are I I'm pretty sure I
• 1:05:48
  read something that they're. Not if they're not, it must be
• 1:05:51
  because of that great Roddy James.
• 1:05:52
  I'm never going to get anywhere in the NBA.
• 1:05:54
  It's interesting. I honestly, it doesn't really
• 1:05:56
  matter. Rich Paul has been one of the
• 1:05:59
  worst negotiators in the NBA and, and everybody drives to him
• 1:06:03
  because of who will LeBron James is.
• 1:06:05
  He's been LeBron James is confidant and, and everything
• 1:06:09
  LeBron James touches when it comes to business has turned to
• 1:06:11
  gold. I I'm not lying about that.
• 1:06:13
  Go look at what LeBron James has done.
• 1:06:15
  So anyways, all right, ladies and gentlemen, we call this the
• 1:06:19
  Concrete Jungle Carousel. We have the concrete jungle and
• 1:06:22
  we're going to start off with some basketball news because
• 1:06:26
  it's the only sport that's really in season currently.
• 1:06:29
  So starting off, Jalen Brunson talked to Vanity Fair, Errol, he
• 1:06:34
  wants to be paid a massive contract in 2028 and said that
• 1:06:39
  he made sacrifices for the Knicks to build a championship
• 1:06:42
  contender beginning with his four year $156,000,000 contract
• 1:06:47
  when he could have waited and got in a five year, $269 million
• 1:06:52
  Max contract. Obviously he'll be eligible for
• 1:06:55
  a bigger contract than that with the inflation. 2028 four year
• 1:06:59
  323, supermax deal. He waits an extra year, five
• 1:07:03
  years 418. It looks like the Knicks are
• 1:07:07
  going to try to do well by him because let's face it, they did
• 1:07:12
  build a contender. There's no question and I do
• 1:07:15
  believe Jalen Brunson has taken less over the last two
• 1:07:19
  contracts. Remember when he he signed with
• 1:07:21
  the Knicks? He signed, I think it was a two
• 1:07:22
  or three-year deal worth about 60 something million.
• 1:07:24
  What a steal because Jalen Brunson became a superstar here
• 1:07:28
  in New York, became the face the captain El Capitan, as Hart says
• 1:07:32
  on his on their podcast. So we we understand what type of
• 1:07:36
  player he is. He could go down as the greatest
• 1:07:38
  nick of all time. But here's the thing.
• 1:07:41
  Does it benefit the Knicks to give him a $450 million deal for
• 1:07:46
  five, five years if he wants to win multiple championships?
• 1:07:50
  He has a chance now if the Knicks bring it together and
• 1:07:54
  continue to build this with Leon Rose and worldwide W to win
• 1:07:58
  multiple championships, not one and become, I wouldn't say a
• 1:08:01
  dynasty, but one of the elite teams that they have not been in
• 1:08:04
  over the last 50 years. So if I was Jalen Brunson, I
• 1:08:08
  understand he's in New York. Taxes are high, but you have an
• 1:08:12
  opportunity to make money in many different ways with some of
• 1:08:15
  the sponsors. You you're going to get more
• 1:08:17
  being here than anywhere else. Why would you take a 5, a 500
• 1:08:22
  million or 400 and $50 million Max contract if you know it's
• 1:08:25
  going to hurt the team? That's the only thing I'm going
• 1:08:26
  to argue. I'm not taking shots at Jalen
• 1:08:28
  Brunson. I love Jalen Brunson.
• 1:08:30
  He deserves a big contract. I just, it doesn't hold well for
• 1:08:34
  the Knicks. Doesn't help the Knicks if he
• 1:08:36
  takes that kind of contract. Yeah, I worry about it with the
• 1:08:38
  injury history too, because he's always had one injury or maybe
• 1:08:41
  even 2 in some seasons per year too.
• 1:08:43
  Now you're going into at the 2028, you're approaching 30
• 1:08:46
  years old at that point. Is it going to be worth it for
• 1:08:49
  even giving the four year 323? I think if they can make it
• 1:08:51
  work, if he stays healthy, the four years, 323 might be good.
• 1:08:55
  I wouldn't do the five years, 423 or whatever it is after
• 1:08:59
  that. I do worry about the injury
• 1:09:01
  history. Fish, I was telling you in the
• 1:09:02
  read off, they're like smaller guards.
• 1:09:04
  Look at somebody like Damian Lillard, who barely has played a
• 1:09:06
  lot with Portland. Now even this year with
• 1:09:08
  Milwaukee, I worry about that kind of thing.
• 1:09:09
  I don't worry about the injuries.
• 1:09:11
  I'm worried about how it benefits them to give them that
• 1:09:13
  contract to bring in free agents and be in a championship
• 1:09:16
  contending team. And by the way, they just gave
• 1:09:19
  up five first round draft picks for Mikhail Bridges.
• 1:09:22
  And every other year they're going to be getting those
• 1:09:24
  contracts, getting those picks and, and, and be being that the
• 1:09:28
  Knicks are so good, those picks are going to be bad.
• 1:09:31
  But as these guys get older, they're only going to get worse
• 1:09:35
  and eventually they're going to fall flat on their face.
• 1:09:37
  And those picks could be lottery.
• 1:09:38
  Picks, yeah, we talked about it too, like the Knicks are kind of
• 1:09:41
  in that three-year core for a championship as it is.
• 1:09:43
  And that's where a lot of those picks, I think outside of the
• 1:09:45
  last one, are going to be in. So if the if the Knicks don't
• 1:09:48
  win a championship in that span, yeah, then maybe you're starting
• 1:09:50
  to question it with the core. But if they do and yeah, maybe
• 1:09:53
  there's a little more leeway to get Brunts in the deal.
• 1:09:54
  But if they don't, yeah, there's some questions.
• 1:09:58
  Yeah, you know, the other team in New York should be mentioned.
• 1:10:01
  Brooklyn Nets are in full on tank mode right now.
• 1:10:05
  Porter junior is playing tonight, but the it's not close.
• 1:10:10
  We mentioned Cleveland earlier. Cleveland is whooping up on the
• 1:10:14
  Nets as we speak in the first half.
• 1:10:15
  It's not they're already up by like 20 something.
• 1:10:17
  They're 15 and 38 right now. They're being, they're talking
• 1:10:21
  about being drafting unless they hit big on the lottery somewhere
• 1:10:24
  between 4:00 and 7:00 in this year's draft.
• 1:10:27
  So I wanted to pull up ESPN's big board of draft prospects
• 1:10:31
  that are in the four to seven range right now.
• 1:10:33
  The top three are Peterson, Debansa and then Boozer at 3,
• 1:10:38
  according to ESPN. This is from a week ago.
• 1:10:40
  Boozer sitting there. For I'm jumping on him and I'm
• 1:10:43
  opening with, I'm opening my doors with wide hugs and kisses
• 1:10:49
  because I think he's the best player in this draft camp.
• 1:10:52
  Boozer, I'm hearing that like the top three, it's like a top
• 1:10:54
  three and then everybody else type of a draft.
• 1:10:57
  So I'd be shocked if he gets out of the three.
• 1:10:59
  But 4 is sitting there is Caleb Wilson from North Carolina.
• 1:11:02
  He's 610 and 19 years old. He's.
• 1:11:06
  A pretty darn good ball handler and shoot shooter for a guy
• 1:11:10
  who's 610 and still growing into his frame.
• 1:11:13
  People are very excited about him.
• 1:11:15
  Obviously he's got the hand injury, but he's someone to
• 1:11:18
  watch. The Houston kid.
• 1:11:19
  Flemings is 5. Kingston Flemings another 19
• 1:11:24
  year old freshman. People are talking about him.
• 1:11:26
  He had a 42 point game against Texas Tech last month.
• 1:11:30
  Big time player for a team that's a top five team.
• 1:11:34
  Then you have Waggler from Illinois who's got big numbers
• 1:11:38
  and a Mint who we've heard a lot about as well from Tennessee,
• 1:11:43
  another 610 wing type. You know one of these you kind
• 1:11:47
  of freak athlete types sitting there.
• 1:11:49
  After that, you have a couple of names from Arkansas.
• 1:11:52
  Cuff junior Mikhail Brown from Louisville puts up points in a
• 1:11:56
  hurry at 45 points against the NC State.
• 1:11:59
  And rounding out the top ten, they have some guy from New
• 1:12:02
  Zealand. I think that no matter where the
• 1:12:05
  Nets are sitting and and the Nets could actually jump from 4
• 1:12:08
  or 5 or even 7 to 1 and they'll get a top three player, the Nets
• 1:12:12
  are going to do whatever it takes to try to get one of those
• 1:12:15
  top three players. But this is a good draft.
• 1:12:18
  We've heard this many, many times by many different guests
• 1:12:21
  that we've had on the show in the past said that 2027 is the
• 1:12:25
  year to make sure you you scavenge up as many draft picks
• 1:12:29
  you possibly can. And the Nets have done it.
• 1:12:31
  I think the Nets could really rebuild their team if they he
• 1:12:34
  could get a Cam Boozer there or, or, or one of these young studs,
• 1:12:38
  maybe a Wilson. They get one of these guys and
• 1:12:40
  then build around the other two picks that they have later in
• 1:12:43
  the in the first round and the the amount of money that they
• 1:12:46
  have in free agency. And honestly, Porter junior
• 1:12:50
  could be traded in the offseason to get themselves another first
• 1:12:53
  round talent. So I I think they're in the
• 1:12:55
  driver's seat. The Nets are not going to be
• 1:12:57
  good for another, I would say probably 5 years.
• 1:13:01
  They have Sean Marks at least they have stability over there
• 1:13:04
  in, you know, as an executive, he's been there a long, long
• 1:13:07
  time. I remember when he was brought
• 1:13:08
  in taking over from the Spurs and he's still in the driver's
• 1:13:13
  seat. So maybe if they can get the
• 1:13:15
  right guy in there and the and they put the right players in
• 1:13:17
  position, they can draw a free agents like free agent like
• 1:13:20
  Giannis of that magnitude to come and play over there.
• 1:13:23
  So it's a possibility. Yeah, it's interesting because
• 1:13:25
  Sean Marks, I think when he, when they brought him over
• 1:13:28
  there, they brought him there to do the rebuild.
• 1:13:30
  And obviously Billy King was the best that he had inherited.
• 1:13:34
  And Kenny? He created the mess.
• 1:13:36
  But yeah, Billy King, Billy King and.
• 1:13:38
  Sean March created a mess over there too.
• 1:13:40
  I was going to say if he learns from his mistake and not do that
• 1:13:43
  kind of thing again, when you're trading all these good young
• 1:13:46
  players for Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant and James Harden,
• 1:13:48
  who they won two playoff series, congratulations with that
• 1:13:52
  amazing big three, and they couldn't even sell playoff
• 1:13:54
  tickets there. Yeah, if he doesn't do that
• 1:13:57
  again, then you actually let it build organically like you've
• 1:13:59
  seen the Rockets do now, like you said, obviously.
• 1:14:01
  OK, see, that's the model you really want to get on before
• 1:14:03
  that big trade with Shake of the Styles and Jalen Williams.
• 1:14:06
  If they do that, yeah, they'll be in good shape.
• 1:14:07
  Otherwise, yeah, it'll still be same old Nets.
• 1:14:10
  Well, they got a lot of young guys.
• 1:14:12
  You would assume that they're gathering them to trade for
• 1:14:15
  somebody big to pair with hopefully a top three guy into
• 1:14:18
  this year's draft. It would make sense on a lot of
• 1:14:21
  levels. But again, this is a Nets
• 1:14:23
  franchise that seems to get it wrong a lot.
• 1:14:25
  Let's go to baseball. I think it's it's time we talk
• 1:14:27
  about some offseason baseball. Let's start in the Bronx with
• 1:14:31
  the Yanks, friend of the show Brian Hoke reports.
• 1:14:34
  Aaron Judge called the Yankees offseason tough to watch,
• 1:14:39
  especially when they were very passive early on with the winter
• 1:14:42
  meetings. Watching the Mets sign guys away
• 1:14:46
  from the Yankees, watching the Red Sox make trade after trade.
• 1:14:49
  The Orioles sign guys. Pete Alonzo adding pitching.
• 1:14:53
  He the ads, Judge ad man. We're the New York Yankees.
• 1:14:57
  Let's go out there and get the right people, the right pieces
• 1:15:00
  and to go out there and finish this thing off.
• 1:15:02
  He wanted the guys back, Trent Grisham, Schmidt, Goldschmidt
• 1:15:05
  and Bellinger, but wishes they could have done more.
• 1:15:09
  I heard this story and, and I he's the captain and he's really
• 1:15:13
  speaking for the fans and he's a he's a fan of the New York
• 1:15:17
  Yankees. He wants the Yankees to pull the
• 1:15:19
  trigger and land some superstars.
• 1:15:21
  This wasn't the offseason to really bring those superstars in
• 1:15:25
  the air. They really wasn't.
• 1:15:26
  If you look at the free agency market, they got Bellinger, who
• 1:15:30
  was one of the best free agents out there.
• 1:15:32
  They signed him, they gave him an extension.
• 1:15:33
  It's not like they struck out on him and lost him.
• 1:15:36
  They if they added Kyle Tucker, was that enough for him to be
• 1:15:39
  happy about? No, I I think the fact here is,
• 1:15:43
  is there wasn't enough out there where the Yankees could have
• 1:15:46
  pulled the trigger, where it would have made Yankee fans
• 1:15:48
  happy or even some of the players there.
• 1:15:50
  I think next offseason if the Yankees strike out on bringing
• 1:15:54
  another superstar in after the strike here, if there is a
• 1:15:57
  season, well then I think that Aaron Judge won't be happy with
• 1:16:01
  the organization. He's not going to ask for
• 1:16:03
  himself to be traded or anything.
• 1:16:05
  I don't I've never heard, I never heard or seen a captain
• 1:16:08
  ever do that. But I'm sure he will air out his
• 1:16:11
  opinions to it. I don't honestly, what he said
• 1:16:14
  to Brian Hope isn't surprising. It wasn't like he was out there
• 1:16:17
  and saying, oh, we're we're not a championship team.
• 1:16:20
  We're not even making the playoffs with this roster.
• 1:16:22
  No, he didn't say that. All he said is he he didn't
• 1:16:26
  understand that why the Yankees didn't go out there and open up
• 1:16:29
  their their pockets, even though if you really look at it, they
• 1:16:32
  really did. It's not like they struck out
• 1:16:35
  and didn't add a superstar player or not a superstar, a
• 1:16:38
  star player to a roster that a lot of teams were after.
• 1:16:41
  Seven teams were after Bellinger and the Yankees got him on a
• 1:16:45
  good contract. So I don't know where the
• 1:16:47
  complaining should be. Not from El Capitan or anybody
• 1:16:51
  else on this Yankee roster. They're still a contender.
• 1:16:54
  They're probably the best team in the American League, even
• 1:16:57
  with some of the acquisitions some of those other teams made.
• 1:16:59
  It's interesting because I think the trends of the Yankees of
• 1:17:02
  what was available realistically for them this offseason have
• 1:17:05
  gone against what they've tried in the past and hasn't worked.
• 1:17:08
  Like, yeah, OK, a lot of people are thinking the Yankees need to
• 1:17:10
  go improve their bullpen, too. But we've also seen off seasons
• 1:17:13
  with the Yankees getting these flashy relievers and then
• 1:17:16
  flaming out or getting hurt, stuff like that.
• 1:17:19
  Same kind of thing with the catching position, anything like
• 1:17:22
  that. They weren't never really in on
• 1:17:24
  Tucker. They were never really in on
• 1:17:25
  Bragman, I don't think as much as people think.
• 1:17:27
  And those were the probably the two biggest names beside
• 1:17:29
  Bellinger's bringing it back to to get.
• 1:17:31
  So if they got more in quantity, fine.
• 1:17:34
  But maybe it's more of a shot at Brian Cashman with all the
• 1:17:35
  comments he was making at the beginning.
• 1:17:37
  Smartest the smartest thing to do is bring up Spencer Jones.
• 1:17:41
  I don't want to hear about oh, we're going to trade him he's
• 1:17:44
  he's not a peace or we're going to block him we're going to
• 1:17:47
  block him you have a young stud right now in your farm system.
• 1:17:51
  See what you got from him, see what you what he's made of
• 1:17:54
  coming up and being called up in the major leagues.
• 1:17:56
  What is he going to do? Hit three home runs in spring
• 1:17:58
  training and you're going to walk out on him and say well,
• 1:18:02
  we're going to move him. We don't think he's any good.
• 1:18:04
  I last year he was the best player in spring training and
• 1:18:07
  they sent him down to AAA. It doesn't make any sense.
• 1:18:09
  If you want to surprise, you want to make the Yankee fans
• 1:18:12
  happy, don't go out and say pretty much tell.
• 1:18:15
  Tell all the Yankee fans your best left-handed prospect, your
• 1:18:18
  young stud power hitter who has almost identical numbers like
• 1:18:22
  Aaron as me and Fish were pointing out during during
• 1:18:26
  offset of the show and trying to compare his numbers to Aaron
• 1:18:29
  Judge. You're going to you're going to
• 1:18:31
  just move them because he doesn't fit the culture.
• 1:18:33
  He doesn't fit the roster that's built right now with the New
• 1:18:36
  York Inc. And that's why I think these
• 1:18:38
  jabs are not necessarily at the free agent moves themselves.
• 1:18:40
  It's the way I think Cashman's operated.
• 1:18:42
  And maybe it's deterred players away.
• 1:18:44
  Obviously, we've heard Java say that with certain free agents
• 1:18:46
  when he was there that maybe Cashman just negotiated him
• 1:18:48
  wrong too. And maybe that's why Jones and
• 1:18:51
  Dominguez, that recent story too, maybe be judged the wrong
• 1:18:53
  way. Well, let's go across town and
• 1:18:57
  talk about the Mets. There was a very weird story.
• 1:19:00
  If you think this the Yankee story was weird, the Mets story
• 1:19:02
  is even stranger. Uncle Stevie, Stevie Money Bucks
• 1:19:07
  over there says that the as long as he's owner of the New York
• 1:19:12
  Mets, they will never, ever have a captain, despite speculation
• 1:19:18
  last year Francisco Lindor was going to be named captain of the
• 1:19:22
  team. You know, there was a lot of
• 1:19:25
  talk about it. And that frustrated Brandon
• 1:19:28
  Nimmo, who is now no longer part of the team.
• 1:19:32
  We've heard some weird, you know, stuff ranging from they
• 1:19:36
  just didn't get along to they had political arguments that
• 1:19:40
  made the clubhouse awkward. Regardless, he's gone now.
• 1:19:45
  Lindor, who's the longest tenured player on the team after
• 1:19:48
  Pete Alonzo, Jeff McNeil and Nimmo were gone this offseason,
• 1:19:51
  says he respects Cohen's decision and says the label
• 1:19:55
  wouldn't change. The type of leader and
• 1:19:56
  personality is in the locker room.
• 1:19:58
  But Errol, it feels like a pretty like direct shot at the
• 1:20:03
  leadership. Going on with this team.
• 1:20:05
  Absolutely does. And and Pete Alonzo I thought
• 1:20:08
  was the face of the organization, the polar bear.
• 1:20:10
  They winded up not even offer him a contract.
• 1:20:13
  He goes to free agency and goes to the Baltimore Orioles.
• 1:20:16
  And I I wouldn't be surprised if he hits 4550 home runs and when
• 1:20:20
  he plays the Mets and he meets the Mets this year, he drives
• 1:20:22
  the ball down their throats. But here's the facts.
• 1:20:26
  None of those guys that are on that roster right now are
• 1:20:28
  homegrown players. None of them as as as far as I'm
• 1:20:31
  concerned, star players that are on that roster.
• 1:20:34
  Lynn or Soto, they're not from the organization.
• 1:20:36
  So I could understand Steve Cohen coming out and saying,
• 1:20:39
  hey, you know what, none of those guys are going to be
• 1:20:42
  captains. We're not going to have
• 1:20:43
  captains. Because I I think that obviously
• 1:20:46
  as far as the organization is concerned, they're more worried
• 1:20:49
  about a casino being built over there and making sure that
• 1:20:52
  there's money being printed over there and him paying players or
• 1:20:56
  drawing players to come and play over here to try to win
• 1:20:59
  championships for the fans. To me, it's all about winning
• 1:21:02
  championships. Why does anybody to give a crop
• 1:21:05
  about who the captain is? They haven't won a championship
• 1:21:08
  since 1986. It's how many years?
• 1:21:11
  30 years ago? 40 years ago?
• 1:21:14
  To me, it's all about winning championships.
• 1:21:16
  So why does anybody care who the captain of the New York Mets is?
• 1:21:20
  Is it Captain America or is it some ass sitting out there
• 1:21:24
  paying tickets, $500 tickets to go and watch this disgraceful
• 1:21:28
  team choke at the end of the season?
• 1:21:30
  Yeah, it's a problem when you're announcing this kind of thing.
• 1:21:33
  I'm not really advocating for the mention of 1 captain anyway.
• 1:21:36
  I've always argue with that with the Rangers too.
• 1:21:38
  Like the Rangers switching their captains every year because they
• 1:21:40
  keep training all the other ones.
• 1:21:41
  But the overall leadership dynamic has to be there if you
• 1:21:45
  want this team to go anywhere. And outside of maybe Lindor and
• 1:21:49
  Simeon, I don't really see any guys that are definitively good
• 1:21:52
  leader. I think Soto was just a flashy
• 1:21:53
  name, great player, but I I never really was amazed by any
• 1:21:56
  leadership quality with him. The Shed's the same kind of way.
• 1:21:59
  I don't think he really is has that kind of thing and you need
• 1:22:01
  that kind of thing with more of your starting lineup guys, but
• 1:22:04
  even your pitchers too, like there are a lot of young guys
• 1:22:06
  all at once. Like who are you going to be
• 1:22:07
  able to trust? I just think they have a problem
• 1:22:09
  that they're not a well operated team.
• 1:22:11
  They're just a bunch of money, money hungry guys right now that
• 1:22:15
  are hoping to win and hoping a mixed bag of all this can win a
• 1:22:17
  championship. You can't trust him and these
• 1:22:19
  comments really don't help. It just feels like a guy who
• 1:22:22
  tried to make a team on a video game and didn't worry about like
• 1:22:25
  the chemistry aspect of everything that's going to
• 1:22:27
  happen in the people's lives and the relationships.
• 1:22:30
  It might get ugly, but, you know, let's let's leave out some
• 1:22:33
  hope for the Mets fans. See, I'm not just such a hater,
• 1:22:36
  Errol. It's not.
• 1:22:36
  It's not everything. Give me a break.
• 1:22:39
  You're trying to be nice. I was nice, I was being nice.
• 1:22:43
  Don't you think? I don't think you're being nice.
• 1:22:45
  This will be the ultimate test. It's.
• 1:22:46
  Typical Aaron Fishman, you know, locating what nice is and what
• 1:22:51
  bad is. And I mean locating because he's
• 1:22:54
  probably in Washington, DC right now and trying to figure out,
• 1:22:57
  hey, you know what, let's talk about New York fans here in New
• 1:23:00
  York. So it's like all over an Almanac
• 1:23:02
  of craziness. Another tow job as we all know.
• 1:23:06
  Nice job we miss you, Job we miss you.
• 1:23:08
  Don't tell your Don't tell your friend Danny about Toast,
• 1:23:11
  though. Yeah, as as we all know.
• 1:23:13
  Or we can use the old myth breaking news.
• 1:23:16
  I'm putting you on a leash now. We could do it that way or we
• 1:23:19
  could do it this way. Breaking news.
• 1:23:20
  They call me the ladies man and Mr. Steal your girl.
• 1:23:23
  Oh well, hopefully he's not stealing anybody's girl or.
• 1:23:26
  I feel like Nathan needs to start, like he needs to meet and
• 1:23:29
  start representing Rex Ryan. I feel like Nathan and Rex would
• 1:23:33
  have plenty of interesting conversations that nobody should
• 1:23:35
  hear that they would enjoy with each other.
• 1:23:38
  But that's a whole another story.
• 1:23:39
  Let's talk about those Jets, Errol Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets.
• 1:23:46
  Fox Sports reports The Jets are very interested in Bears D back
• 1:23:50
  Nashon Wright favourites to sign him with the huge amount of cap
• 1:23:54
  space they have. He was for the Bears.
• 1:23:56
  If you remember last year. He's the guy who's coach in
• 1:23:59
  college was murdered during the season.
• 1:24:01
  It was in Oakland. We talked about that story.
• 1:24:04
  He was very emotional the game after.
• 1:24:06
  I think he had an interception that game.
• 1:24:07
  He had a very good. Player.
• 1:24:08
  For the Bears, good player, he's one of the top corners on the
• 1:24:12
  market. Another corner on the market
• 1:24:14
  expected to hit free agencies. Tyreke Woolen with Super Bowl
• 1:24:17
  Championship Seahawks. He was the guy.
• 1:24:19
  If they were going to pick on someone, he was the guy they
• 1:24:21
  picked on. He made a couple of blunders
• 1:24:23
  famously didn't cost them against the Rams ultimately, but
• 1:24:27
  it could have. He's the next guy that people
• 1:24:29
  would take at corner. But obviously The Jets and the
• 1:24:31
  Giants we'll talk about too. Also very interested in corner.
• 1:24:34
  And then Speaking of those Giants, there's a guy on the
• 1:24:37
  Giants The Jets are apparently homing in on and it's our 5 foot
• 1:24:42
  one slot receiver. I'm sorry, 5 foot eight slot
• 1:24:45
  receiver Wandale Robinson who in the I think in the combine had
• 1:24:50
  the shortest arms ever recorded for a receiver at the combine.
• 1:24:54
  He had a lot of drops but this year he was 1000 yard receiver.
• 1:24:58
  Had better fantasy stats than Justin Jefferson after neighbors
• 1:25:02
  went down. He was the only guy that looked
• 1:25:04
  like an NFL receiver on that team.
• 1:25:07
  As far as The Jets are concerned, any corner right now
• 1:25:10
  would be an absolute home run for them.
• 1:25:12
  So I, they're going to look at woolen.
• 1:25:14
  I I'd stay away from woolen because I don't know if you want
• 1:25:17
  to bring somebody like that in your locker room unless you can
• 1:25:19
  control them. So that's, I wouldn't go, I like
• 1:25:22
  the kid from the Bears. I, I think that's something that
• 1:25:25
  The Jets are going to look at and The Jets have a lot of
• 1:25:27
  money. The Giants don't.
• 1:25:28
  They're going to be looking at corners, but they can't even
• 1:25:31
  afford their own players as Robinson is going to be
• 1:25:33
  available. That that's the number one guy
• 1:25:35
  I'd be targeting if I was the New York Giants to bring him
• 1:25:38
  back. Because you don't even know if
• 1:25:40
  your neighbors is going to be back and he's going to be 100%
• 1:25:42
  this guy. Robinson this year was a
• 1:25:45
  phenomenal player. You could put him in the slot.
• 1:25:46
  You can put him on the outside. He was really Jackson darts #1
• 1:25:51
  target all season and long, and to lose him in free agency is a
• 1:25:55
  catastrophe. I don't care what any Giant fan
• 1:25:57
  says, you could go after a wide receiver at #5 but are they
• 1:26:01
  better than Robertson? I I was very impressed with
• 1:26:03
  Robertson all season long. I did not think he was this good
• 1:26:07
  because over the last three years he couldn't stay healthy.
• 1:26:09
  But when he had a chance to spark and be a lightning rod for
• 1:26:13
  Gable, and then obviously what they did in the second-half and
• 1:26:16
  what kind of numbers he put up, he was a pro ball player.
• 1:26:20
  He he to me, he'd be the best slot wide receiver in the
• 1:26:23
  league. So my question here is with The
• 1:26:25
  Jets is are they going to put themselves in the right position
• 1:26:29
  to land these guys and not overpay for them?
• 1:26:32
  If they overpay for these guys, they're going to put themselves
• 1:26:34
  in salary cap hell for next year if they decide to move on from
• 1:26:39
  Aaron Glenn. You do not want to bring a coach
• 1:26:41
  in that's going to try to maneuver cap cap space in the
• 1:26:45
  next two or three years to get him you know, on point for the
• 1:26:49
  players that he wants to run his offense.
• 1:26:51
  So if you, I don't think Aaron Glenn's the guy, as we've heard
• 1:26:55
  many people say, they don't overpay for players this
• 1:26:59
  offseason, Wait until the next season where you're loaded with
• 1:27:02
  draft stock and you're loaded with money, where you could put
• 1:27:05
  the right guy in position to get the players that he wants.
• 1:27:08
  Yes, I was going to mention that with Neshawn, right, because I
• 1:27:10
  think it is a big disclaimer that both the Giants and The
• 1:27:13
  Jets have made this mistake in the last 10 years.
• 1:27:15
  The Giants did it with James Bradbury.
• 1:27:17
  He had two really good years in a row at the end of his career
• 1:27:19
  at Carolina, but those were his only really two good years.
• 1:27:22
  The Jets bid on the same thing with Tremaine Johnson and both
• 1:27:25
  those contracts really backfired for those teams.
• 1:27:28
  Nashon Wright kind of feels like that same kind of thing.
• 1:27:30
  He's been a product of a good secondary for a while.
• 1:27:32
  He played well when those guys were hurt at the throughout this
• 1:27:34
  year. Is it a flash in the pan though,
• 1:27:36
  and can you trust that kind of thing for that much money that
• 1:27:39
  he's going to demand because he was one of the interception
• 1:27:41
  leaders in the league? I don't know.
• 1:27:42
  Robinson's another interesting 1.
• 1:27:44
  He improved very, very good as a route runner and a deep threat
• 1:27:47
  this past year. Don't pay over 15,000,000 for
• 1:27:49
  Robinson and I would land. Him, I was going to say Khalil
• 1:27:52
  Shakur was that same kind of thing.
• 1:27:54
  Buffalo gave him three-year, $45 million contract.
• 1:27:57
  I wouldn't exceed that if I were, if I were any team going
• 1:28:00
  after Robinson because Robinson height wise much more
• 1:28:02
  deficiencies than Shakir does. Yeah, I personally would rather
• 1:28:05
  have Shakur in that deal. But just before we leave The
• 1:28:09
  Jets, Vera Tucker, you know, obviously lots of injury
• 1:28:13
  history. He's probably someone that
• 1:28:16
  they'll try to bring back on a low low cost 9.
• 1:28:18
  Million a year, I think 9 million.
• 1:28:20
  Makes sense. I think it's I think it's going
• 1:28:22
  to be less than half of that. It might not be very much just
• 1:28:24
  to see if he can still play. It's like that with the injuries
• 1:28:27
  with him. Bruce Hall though, looks like
• 1:28:30
  him and Kenneth Walker, the third who we'll talk about in
• 1:28:33
  the Sportsman in a little bit, are going to be the top 2
• 1:28:36
  running backs on the market. He wants around 13 million plus
• 1:28:40
  Breece Hall. If they tagged him it would be
• 1:28:43
  around 14 1/2. They're going to tag him so.
• 1:28:45
  They're 100%. That's what they're looking at
• 1:28:47
  right there with Hall. They're going to tag Breece
• 1:28:50
  Hall. There's no question they are.
• 1:28:51
  The Jets aren't just going to let him go and get nothing for
• 1:28:54
  him. They were expecting a third
• 1:28:55
  round draft pick for him. They didn't get it from Kansas
• 1:28:58
  City. Who knows if Kansas City gets
• 1:29:00
  Breece Hall, they make, I believe they make the playoffs
• 1:29:03
  and maybe make a run. They struck out on that because
• 1:29:06
  they don't want to give up a third round pick, which is very
• 1:29:08
  surprising. I think Breeze Hall is the type
• 1:29:10
  of guy that Kansas City's going to go after.
• 1:29:12
  I could see that happening. Kansas City will overpay for him
• 1:29:16
  because they need that star running back over there with
• 1:29:18
  Patrick Mahomes and we'll see. Maybe Tyree Kill will follow
• 1:29:22
  after that and they'll be a contender.
• 1:29:24
  But Breeze Hall is going to get franchised and The Jets are
• 1:29:27
  going to get something back for him.
• 1:29:28
  They want a third. They'll probably get 1/3 for
• 1:29:30
  him. So we'll see.
• 1:29:31
  I think that's the approach that The Jets are going to have to
• 1:29:33
  take. Like why would they let him go
• 1:29:34
  walk for nothing thing and not trying to accumulate that draft
• 1:29:38
  stock too. There's going.
• 1:29:38
  To be they don't have any third round picks this yeah right.
• 1:29:41
  So. Giving them even more of an
• 1:29:42
  incentive when you look at all the four teams remaining had
• 1:29:45
  good running games in the in the playoffs and even even the teams
• 1:29:48
  in the divisional round. So it's a different theme this
• 1:29:50
  year. That's going to be valued from
• 1:29:51
  what we talked about on Monday where they're are they devaluing
• 1:29:54
  the running back position? I think a team will bite this
• 1:29:55
  offseason. Yeah, if they let him go I'd end
• 1:29:57
  up with like a third round comp pick for 27 I believe if they if
• 1:30:02
  they do their math right. Unless, unlike how Joe Shane did
• 1:30:04
  it with Saquon Barkley, that's another story.
• 1:30:07
  Speaking of those Giants, the Giants are not as flush in cat
• 1:30:12
  money whatsoever as The Jets. Looks like they're going to have
• 1:30:15
  to do some finagling. They've talked about possibly
• 1:30:18
  cutting and likely cutting Bobby O'kereke, their starting
• 1:30:23
  linebacker for the last couple of seasons.
• 1:30:25
  Just hasn't been very effective out there.
• 1:30:28
  Probably can get similar results from a much cheaper player and
• 1:30:32
  he's going to want more money after this season anyway.
• 1:30:35
  Tight end is a guy and Isaiah likely coming from the Ravens as
• 1:30:39
  a name to watch, as is the big ticket name that the Giants are
• 1:30:43
  looking at, which is Ravens center Tyler Linder Baum, the
• 1:30:47
  second ranked center in the league last year according to
• 1:30:50
  PFF. Other guys we mentioned Neshawn,
• 1:30:53
  right? And then there's Colts wide
• 1:30:54
  receiver Daniel Jones's favorite deep ball target this season,
• 1:30:58
  Alec Pierce. Defensive tackle DJ Reader is
• 1:31:03
  another name, and they may trade Thibodeau to try to free up some
• 1:31:06
  of that cap room. Pierce makes a lot of sense for
• 1:31:09
  the Giants if they decide not to go for a wide receiver at #5
• 1:31:13
  they could trade out of that spot and still land a wide
• 1:31:16
  receiver if they can extend and add more picks.
• 1:31:20
  Second round would be more likely where the Giants probably
• 1:31:23
  go if they they don't bring a wide receiver in in the first
• 1:31:27
  round. But Tate's a guy that I've heard
• 1:31:29
  that the Giants are very intrigued speak to, very
• 1:31:30
  interested in. They'll wait until the combine
• 1:31:33
  to really see if he's 100% healthy.
• 1:31:35
  But to me, I think that the Giants are not really going to
• 1:31:38
  have much much to move and and much to trade.
• 1:31:41
  Now Thibodeau, they could sign and trade him.
• 1:31:43
  But it's what I'm hearing it's Dexter Lawrence is where they're
• 1:31:47
  going to try to move his contract to, to free up some
• 1:31:51
  contract money where they can add maybe 2 pieces for one.
• 1:31:55
  I think it's a big mistake if the Giants decide to move Dexter
• 1:31:58
  Lawrence. I I still think he has a lot
• 1:32:00
  left in him. He has been the cornerstone of
• 1:32:03
  their defense. It would be a huge mistake after
• 1:32:05
  having one bad season because he wasn't 100% healthy because you
• 1:32:09
  like what Burns did. He had one Goodyear.
• 1:32:11
  And as far as I'm concerned, when you, when you see Burns is
• 1:32:14
  a good player. I'm not saying he wasn't good
• 1:32:16
  with Carolina. He was a good player.
• 1:32:18
  He was a top 12, top 13 linebacker, but he had an
• 1:32:23
  unbelievable year this year. Can he do it over and over and
• 1:32:26
  over again? And I still think Dexter
• 1:32:28
  Lawrence, even though Dexter Lawrence was not at the top, you
• 1:32:31
  know, at the top of his game this year, he created double and
• 1:32:34
  triple teams that helped Burns. Really, it opened up for Burns
• 1:32:37
  to be the player he was. I, I just, I think it's a big
• 1:32:40
  mistake if they let go of Dexter.
• 1:32:42
  Lawrence, I'm not hearing that about Dexter.
• 1:32:44
  He's the guy because of the contract that he has.
• 1:32:47
  There's no reason to because they can wait till the very end
• 1:32:50
  and then do the extension void years thing with his contract
• 1:32:53
  and free up that room after like all those things where like you
• 1:32:57
  can only spend so much of the money.
• 1:32:59
  This is a way to like cheat and open up more money later on and
• 1:33:02
  they'll use it if if there's like a big name that comes out.
• 1:33:05
  He had a down season for his standards last year as far as
• 1:33:08
  the stats. He was an all world player the
• 1:33:10
  two years consistently before that dude.
• 1:33:12
  Not much this year. 4 minutes ago, 4 minutes ago.
• 1:33:15
  A heavy as far as I'm I'm reading right now is Giants
• 1:33:19
  facing difficult decisions on keeping Dexter Lawrence on a all
• 1:33:22
  season. I've seen like 5 stories that
• 1:33:25
  they're looking to. Possibly, I'm just saying that
• 1:33:27
  was listen to the. I'm just telling you.
• 1:33:28
  Catino and Schmelk and all the Giants beat writers and
• 1:33:32
  Visignano and they're all just kind of saying that he's
• 1:33:34
  probably going to be more of a down the road situation unless
• 1:33:37
  like you said, if someone wants to give first round picks.
• 1:33:40
  I don't know, I think they get one for him and maybe a second.
• 1:33:43
  But you don't trade him if you can't, you know what I mean?
• 1:33:46
  There's they'll get. They'll get what The Jets got
• 1:33:48
  for Quinton Williams. They'll get a first.
• 1:33:50
  He should be worth more than Quinton Williams is a better
• 1:33:52
  player than. Quinton Williams Quinton
• 1:33:54
  Williams was better than Dexter Lawrence this past year and.
• 1:33:56
  I would disagree with that. They're different players, Like
• 1:33:59
  they're one's a three tech, one's A1 tech, but but like
• 1:34:02
  they're both very good. This I'm saying that this year,
• 1:34:05
  going into after the season that Dexter Lawrence have, I'm going
• 1:34:09
  to say Quinton Williams was better, especially when he went
• 1:34:11
  to the Cowboys. He certainly woke their defense
• 1:34:14
  up. That's right.
• 1:34:14
  You know, like, they needed a guy like him.
• 1:34:16
  So good for them. I'm getting them.
• 1:34:18
  Let's get off of this and get into just finishing up.
• 1:34:21
  Not much Western New York sports right now to talk.
• 1:34:24
  Obviously, hockey's in the break right now for the Olympics.
• 1:34:27
  We'll talk about Olympic hockey on Monday.
• 1:34:30
  But the Bills want to talk quickly about their weird story
• 1:34:33
  about vandalism at their their stadium that's being
• 1:34:36
  constructed. Apparently there's a reward for
• 1:34:39
  $100,000 for some graffiti found all over the place inside the
• 1:34:44
  building of New Highmark Stadium.
• 1:34:46
  It's apparently they're seeing, they think it might be an inside
• 1:34:48
  job. Who knows?
• 1:34:49
  The Bills are just wacky like that.
• 1:34:51
  But the the guys that they need are obvious.
• 1:34:53
  They had no pass rush and they had no receivers.
• 1:34:57
  So Trey Hendrickson is just sitting there for them.
• 1:34:59
  There's no way he's going to the Bengals.
• 1:35:02
  They don't have to pay him as much as he got previously
• 1:35:04
  because he didn't have the big season.
• 1:35:06
  He's a big man. Let's talk about the wide
• 1:35:09
  receivers because it's obvious we mentioned the couple with
• 1:35:12
  Alec Pierce already and Wandale Robinson, but Mike Evans is the
• 1:35:16
  name everyone's talking about for the Bills.
• 1:35:18
  Makes so much sense as the outside receiver red zone threat
• 1:35:22
  Pickens is available likely, you know, unless he gets tagged or
• 1:35:26
  something like that. And then, you know, like Juan
• 1:35:31
  Jennings from the 49ers might come available as well as.
• 1:35:34
  A kind of I'd stay away from it today.
• 1:35:36
  It's Mike Evans that's the guy and automatically that makes him
• 1:35:40
  a contender. They need they need a guy that's
• 1:35:42
  going to dominate on the outside, go up and get the ball.
• 1:35:46
  Josh Allen has not had a player of this magnitude.
• 1:35:49
  If Mike Evans go ever, I don't care.
• 1:35:51
  You want to say Diggs was great, that's fine.
• 1:35:54
  He is not Mike Evans. This guy's a Hall of Famer.
• 1:35:56
  He he's a tough player go up for the ball type of player, red
• 1:36:01
  zone dominance. He's everything you want in a
• 1:36:04
  wide receiver for the next two years.
• 1:36:06
  To have Mike Evans at the top of his game and, and fairly healthy
• 1:36:09
  too. I mean, he misses a significant
• 1:36:12
  amount of games here and there, but I mean, he misses like two
• 1:36:15
  or three games this season, but he still plays a significant
• 1:36:17
  amount of games. So I, I, I'm going to tell you
• 1:36:20
  this right now, Mike Evans would be the slam dunk for them.
• 1:36:22
  I, I, I, you could bring in a Trey Hendrickson, he'll take
• 1:36:25
  less money. Mike Evans would take less
• 1:36:27
  money. And if they do, if they bring in
• 1:36:29
  those two guys, contenders, Super Bowl contenders, they're
• 1:36:32
  the favorites are coming out of the AFC.
• 1:36:34
  Slam dunk Mike Evans trade makes perfect sense.
• 1:36:36
  I think you trade a big bodied receiver.
• 1:36:37
  Back, you don't have to give up much.
• 1:36:39
  I would say you either give up Josh, yeah, Josh Palmer and
• 1:36:42
  maybe not even a third round like maybe get a third round
• 1:36:44
  yeah, because they have so many big bodied receivers Buffalo,
• 1:36:46
  But you need you can need one that actually has good talent.
• 1:36:49
  Coleman's been obviously streaky with all the off field issues
• 1:36:51
  that he had. I'm more worried about their
• 1:36:52
  interior than I am with their outside fish.
• 1:36:55
  But still at the same time you want to explore the market.
• 1:36:58
  If you can get Hendrickson, Maybe if the Giants do trade
• 1:37:00
  Thibodeau, that's an option for them to where you have to give
• 1:37:02
  them like a third or fourth round pick, which I don't think.
• 1:37:04
  But I'm more worried about their second guy next to Ed all very
• 1:37:08
  personally. He.
• 1:37:08
  Doesn't get back healthy. Yeah, I would imagine.
• 1:37:10
  I'm looking at the Bills draft and I'm thinking they're going
• 1:37:13
  for the beef this year on the defensive side.
• 1:37:16
  It would make a lot of sense to me.
• 1:37:18
  So let's just finish up. Let's talk a little college.
• 1:37:21
  Who Big East basketball, two big teams this year, UConn, Huskies
• 1:37:25
  and Saint John. So we're going to focus in on
• 1:37:27
  them until the big until the dance.
• 1:37:29
  But as far as the UConn got knocked off by Creighton, it was
• 1:37:34
  pretty bad. They were home favorites, 15 1/2
• 1:37:37
  points. They gave out 91 points.
• 1:37:39
  Dan Hurley called the defense an absolute.
• 1:37:41
  Joke. Lost his mind in a press
• 1:37:43
  conference went a little viral, said they're playing with fire.
• 1:37:47
  They're kind of in a range right now where they could be a 2-3
• 1:37:50
  and if they, I hope not, maybe even a four seed, but probably
• 1:37:54
  A2 or a three seed the way it's going right now, St.
• 1:37:57
  John's it's. Good for both of them. 12 game
• 1:38:00
  win streak right now, third longest in college basketball
• 1:38:04
  only behind Liberty and undefeated Miami of Ohio.
• 1:38:07
  But one of the games there was a huge fight and St.
• 1:38:10
  Second leading scorer Bryce Hopkins got fouled by Duncan
• 1:38:14
  Powell. Speedy, you said you were
• 1:38:16
  almost. Harold and I had him on the show
• 1:38:17
  five years ago and funny, Funny Story.
• 1:38:21
  So the first time we were supposed to have him on the
• 1:38:23
  show, he left his phone in his locker so he couldn't get it.
• 1:38:27
  So we had to reschedule with him.
• 1:38:28
  And then he became, I think, one of our first video interviews we
• 1:38:30
  ever did on Stream Yard. It looked like he had like the
• 1:38:33
  Daniel Bryan front face lock in on on him and that play
• 1:38:39
  obviously suspensions for three games for Hopkins, for Powell,
• 1:38:44
  for pulling Hopkins down by the head.
• 1:38:47
  I will say this, I think UConn is going to be a Final Four
• 1:38:51
  team. I think St.
• 1:38:52
  John's could be an Elite Eight Final Four team.
• 1:38:55
  I think both teams in the way they've played and, and, and
• 1:38:58
  recruiting some of the older players in St.
• 1:39:01
  John's, I think Pitino obviously knows what he was looking for,
• 1:39:04
  what he was missing in the the March Madness tournament last
• 1:39:08
  year they didn't have enough offense.
• 1:39:09
  Well, this year they've been better offensively.
• 1:39:12
  They've shot better at the three-point line.
• 1:39:14
  I think St. John's could be very deep, very
• 1:39:16
  dangerous because of their defenses, defensive prowess and
• 1:39:20
  the youth and obviously the veteran players that they have.
• 1:39:22
  You gun they're young, they have all these 18 and 19 year olds,
• 1:39:26
  but I think Danny Hurley is so aggressively funny on and off
• 1:39:31
  the court. He yells at the other teams
• 1:39:33
  players. He he's to me, he's the the
• 1:39:36
  heart and soul of that team. And I think UConn are so
• 1:39:40
  dangerous for these tournaments just because Danny Hurley is, he
• 1:39:44
  coaches the game completely different than everybody else in
• 1:39:47
  the nation. I Uconn's dangerous.
• 1:39:49
  I think they have the size and they have the ability to score
• 1:39:53
  in many different ways. And of course the defensive
• 1:39:55
  prowess that they have there. There could be my favorite to
• 1:39:58
  winning the whole thing this year.
• 1:39:59
  Yeah. The only team with those kinds
• 1:40:01
  of exceptions a little iffy with the offensive efficiency.
• 1:40:03
  A very young team which usually doesn't win titles.
• 1:40:05
  In today's game, they. Got two guys that could be.
• 1:40:07
  Danny Hurley is the one coach I could trust to make that kind of
• 1:40:10
  thing work and still win a title.
• 1:40:11
  Like you said, Saint John's looks better offensively.
• 1:40:13
  Older and very well coached. Much more deeper offensively
• 1:40:17
  thanks to thanks to Hopkins. They have two, I think two other
• 1:40:20
  guys that are scoring over 15 a game too, which is something
• 1:40:22
  they did not have last year. So definitely a good sign.
• 1:40:24
  They'll probably be like a three or four seat unless they win the
• 1:40:26
  Big East tournament, then they might be, they might be a 2, but
• 1:40:28
  it doesn't matter. They need to build a good
• 1:40:30
  foundation. They're doing that.
• 1:40:33
  And that's it for the carousel. We'll spin again next week.
• 1:40:37
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, we call this the deuce of the
• 1:40:40
  day. The deuce of the day.
• 1:40:44
  You log not a log. I don't have a log but.
• 1:40:53
  One of my favorite Christmas movies, A Christmas Vacation,
• 1:40:57
  and I love that part. You like, you like.
• 1:41:00
  Anyways, it seems like Kevin Durant again is back with his
• 1:41:05
  Twitter accounts, ladies and gentlemen, and boy oh boy is he
• 1:41:08
  pissing people off. Durant, who has more than 19.3
• 1:41:12
  million followers on his public Twitter accounts, is accused of
• 1:41:17
  using another and unanimous anonymous account with a handle
• 1:41:21
  called at Get Higher 77. Screenshots of group chats
• 1:41:27
  involving the account or that account show that Get Higher 77
• 1:41:32
  criticizing current Rocket teammates like Saginn and Jabari
• 1:41:38
  Smith Junior, as well as other teammates like or former
• 1:41:41
  teammates like Devin Booker, James Harden and Tremont Green
• 1:41:45
  and Russell Westbrook. Oh my God, does this guy ever
• 1:41:50
  learn? Does this guy actually ever
• 1:41:53
  learn about just keeping these Twitter accounts to himself?
• 1:41:57
  How many Twitter accounts do you need, Kevin?
• 1:41:59
  How many things do you need to hide and why are you throwing
• 1:42:03
  your teammates under the bus? Doesn't make any sense.
• 1:42:05
  This guy is been the best player on every one of those rosters.
• 1:42:10
  When you think about the the OKC Thunder with Harden, Russell
• 1:42:13
  Westbrook and and the talent that they had over there and
• 1:42:17
  obviously striking out against Miami the one year that they
• 1:42:19
  made it to the finals and then going and jumping ship, he went
• 1:42:23
  to the Brooklyn, Kyrie Irving and James Harden.
• 1:42:25
  How did that work out over there?
• 1:42:27
  Everywhere is going. The only time he won was with
• 1:42:30
  Golden State because he had Steph Curry and and and Thompson
• 1:42:34
  and Draymond Green in their primes of their career.
• 1:42:37
  He was the best player on the team, but he needed to join
• 1:42:39
  forces and now he's joined forces with Twitter once again
• 1:42:44
  with 78910 Twitter accounts and throwing teammates under the
• 1:42:48
  bus. When is he going to get popped
• 1:42:50
  in the face? This man needs to be knocked the
• 1:42:53
  hell out. All I see now is he going to
• 1:42:56
  these weddings and dancing and prancing around doing his what?
• 1:42:59
  What do they call it? The crab dance?
• 1:43:01
  A guy can't dance for crap. He's a goofy 6 foot 11
• 1:43:05
  ridiculous personality who has nothing good to say about
• 1:43:08
  anybody but himself and he calls himself the greatest offensive
• 1:43:11
  talent the NBA has ever seen. The only thing he's great at is
• 1:43:15
  hiding away behind his Twitter account.
• 1:43:17
  So my deuce of the day goes to the one we call Kevin or Durant
• 1:43:23
  or Mr. Twitter himself X whatever you call it, Kevin
• 1:43:26
  Durant. When we come back, ladies and
• 1:43:28
  gentlemen, we will be talking to former 12 year Pro Bowl running
• 1:43:32
  back Amen Green. He'll be joining us.
• 1:43:36
  We're going to be very happy and enjoy full attack.
• 1:43:39
  And I'm just kidding, I love Mr. Green.
• 1:43:42
  I watched him play for the one we call the Packers.
• 1:43:45
  I know Brett Farve, I love Brett Farve and I love the way Green
• 1:43:49
  ran the ball in the time that he dominated the league.
• 1:43:51
  So when we come back, we'll have our man Green joining us.
• 1:43:54
  But first, our sports minute with the 1:00 we call Fish.
• 1:44:00
  This is the Jabba and the Mouth Sports minute.
• 1:44:04
  All right, guys, Iron Fishman here with your sportsman.
• 1:44:07
  I got a couple of stories before we go through the scores this
• 1:44:09
  evening in an effort to put some extra fuel in that tank.
• 1:44:13
  The Dallas Mavericks, after trading away Anthony Davis, who
• 1:44:16
  they traded Luka Doncic away for in less than a calendar year
• 1:44:20
  after acquiring them after firing Nico Harrison, will go
• 1:44:23
  down as one of the worst gems in NBA history.
• 1:44:25
  Have announced that star point guard Kyrie Irving, who has
• 1:44:28
  missed the entire season so far recovering from a torn ACL
• 1:44:32
  suffered last season, will not return to the court this year.
• 1:44:35
  Irving's agent, agent Chatella Riley told ESPN Shyam Shirani on
• 1:44:40
  Wednesday. This is about Kyrie being 1000%
• 1:44:43
  when he comes back and giving himself the best chance to chase
• 1:44:46
  a championship next season. Irving, for his part, is also
• 1:44:50
  excited for the future prospects with the franchise.
• 1:44:52
  This decision wasn't easy, but it's the right one.
• 1:44:55
  I'm grateful for The Mavericks organization, my teammates and
• 1:44:57
  our fans for their continued support throughout the process.
• 1:45:00
  I'm looking forward to coming back stronger next season.
• 1:45:02
  The belief and drive I have only inside only grows and I want to
• 1:45:06
  send a huge shout out to all of my brothers and sisters out
• 1:45:10
  there who've torn their ACL or got an injured doing what they
• 1:45:13
  love to do every day. Thank you for the inspiration.
• 1:45:16
  No Fear. Since acquiring the Irving, The
• 1:45:18
  Mavericks were able to get the NBA Finals in the curiously
• 1:45:22
  short lived union with him and Luka Doncic and have been 75 and
• 1:45:25
  50, 53 with him in the lineup as opposed to a record of 42 and 75
• 1:45:29
  without Irving. The Mavericks will look to add 1
• 1:45:32
  of the top prospects in a loaded 2026 draft to pair with Irving
• 1:45:35
  next year along with rookie sensation Cooper Flag.
• 1:45:38
  After this obvious tank job is over this year, the Super Bowl
• 1:45:43
  winning Seattle Seahawks announced on Tuesday, according
• 1:45:45
  to sources into ESPN, that Super Bowl MVP running back Kenneth
• 1:45:49
  Walker, the third, will likely not be tagged and will be an
• 1:45:53
  unrestricted free agent this offseason.
• 1:45:55
  Walker, who will turn 26 in the middle of next year at 135
• 1:45:59
  rushing yards and 161 total yards in the Super Bowl, not
• 1:46:03
  including a 60 plus yard TD run that was negated by a penalty in
• 1:46:06
  a game where he could do very little wrong.
• 1:46:09
  Walker it appears will be getting a nice payday for his
• 1:46:11
  efforts as the Seahawks will not be giving him the franchise or
• 1:46:14
  transition tag to allow him to get that big second contract
• 1:46:18
  most players dream of. Walker and The Jets running back
• 1:46:21
  Bruce Hall, as we talked about earlier in the show, are
• 1:46:23
  expected to be the top backs on the free agent market likely to
• 1:46:26
  get well over 10 million a season in their next deals
• 1:46:29
  despite losing backup running back Zach charbonnay in the
• 1:46:31
  playoffs to a tourney seal, likely costing them all the next
• 1:46:34
  season. The Seahawks will apparently
• 1:46:36
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• 1:46:39
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  What's up, Mr. Green? Not much.
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  How you guys doing? We're good, man.
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• 1:50:07
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• 1:50:09
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• 1:50:11
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• 1:50:16
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• 1:50:18
  We just lost. We just got knocked out of the
• 1:50:20
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• 1:50:21
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• 1:50:24
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• 1:50:27
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• 1:50:30
  Experience, you know, watching the playoffs for all teams, but
• 1:50:34
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• 1:50:38
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• 1:50:41
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• 1:50:44
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• 1:50:47
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• 1:50:49
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• 1:50:52
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• 1:50:56
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• 1:50:58
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• 1:51:02
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• 1:51:05
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• 1:51:08
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• 1:51:12
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• 1:51:15
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• 1:51:18
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• 1:51:22
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• 1:51:26
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• 1:51:29
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• 1:51:32
  You know, that's what that game was about.
• 1:51:34
  And the Bears turned it on. They knew they had to you know
• 1:51:37
  what they they figured out what they needed to do and they
• 1:51:39
  already had that experience from the previous game when they beat
• 1:51:42
  them and shows your field just a few weeks, you know, prior.
• 1:51:45
  So that right there was the edge that Chicago had going into that
• 1:51:49
  game and then finishing the game because they had already
• 1:51:52
  finished the game before and beat my Packers.
• 1:51:55
  So it's just now mentally, I tell, I say people, I tell
• 1:51:59
  people all the time, You know, this game is not a hard game to
• 1:52:01
  play physically when you match up evenly.
• 1:52:04
  It just comes down to who is thinking clearer and then has
• 1:52:08
  that emotional push at the right time to then execute and not
• 1:52:12
  hesitate in any thought process from blocking to throwing a pass
• 1:52:16
  to catching the ball. You know, not all that
• 1:52:18
  anxiousness and nervousness that comes in to that might make you
• 1:52:22
  pause. That's where the game is won and
• 1:52:24
  lost and it's that close. It's just a fine line.
• 1:52:26
  It wasn't nothing where it was, Oh my God, it was this margin of
• 1:52:29
  this much that the, you know, the Packers lost by or they
• 1:52:32
  should have won by. It's just now they have that
• 1:52:35
  experience clocked in. So what's going to be
• 1:52:37
  interesting is this next coming seasons in the season to come
• 1:52:39
  where Jordan Love and that Packers offense, along with the
• 1:52:42
  defense is going to be facing with Caleb.
• 1:52:44
  And they got experiences. So we're going to see some
• 1:52:46
  battles, you know, coming up in the next few years between these
• 1:52:49
  young teams because they're still young and they got young
• 1:52:52
  leaders, you know, in terms of the quarterback position and the
• 1:52:54
  head coach position, you know, be between Ben and mad and
• 1:52:57
  already the animosity that's been created.
• 1:53:00
  But phantom handshakes or whatever you want to call it.
• 1:53:02
  And then the Packer Packer fans where I had to get on my fan
• 1:53:05
  base a little bit because I'm like, you don't raise a petition
• 1:53:08
  for another coach to apologize to another coach.
• 1:53:09
  No, we we got to be grown ass men and women and take AL like
• 1:53:12
  AL, you know, we took the L. That's it.
• 1:53:15
  You know, I never went over down to Chicago and say Urlacher,
• 1:53:18
  Hey, man, we got to get the position.
• 1:53:19
  Y'all didn't win that lap. No, take that like a grown
• 1:53:22
  person and call it a day. Aman you, you have a guy like
• 1:53:26
  Tucker Kraft who was becoming a superstar this year.
• 1:53:29
  He was the best tied in throughout the first half of the
• 1:53:33
  season. He was unstoppable.
• 1:53:35
  He had that game that he had three touchdowns.
• 1:53:37
  He was putting up ridiculous numbers as a tight end.
• 1:53:40
  He he was looking at like, like the next Travis Kelsey, the next
• 1:53:43
  George Kittle. I mean, he was playing that kind
• 1:53:46
  of football. And then having the injury that
• 1:53:48
  he had and being knocked out of the season, I definitely believe
• 1:53:51
  it hurt the development, development of this offense this
• 1:53:54
  year. Jordan Love, who was really
• 1:53:56
  Tucker Craft was his his go to guy really throughout the
• 1:54:00
  season. Losing him at the tail end of
• 1:54:03
  the season really affected him. Why do you think Tucker Craft is
• 1:54:06
  that type of player? And he's the guy, He's the go to
• 1:54:09
  guy moving forward IN20002627? Oh, man, because he has the
• 1:54:13
  talent. I mean, he has the mental, he
• 1:54:14
  has the physical. He's a dude, as I call it in my
• 1:54:17
  book. You know, guys that know how to
• 1:54:19
  get on the football field and they draw attention and then
• 1:54:23
  even if they draw the attention, you can't stop them.
• 1:54:25
  That feeling for a defensive player is dismantling.
• 1:54:28
  And I love it when I see it when when I see the I remember when I
• 1:54:31
  used to look across the offense of the defensive line, offensive
• 1:54:33
  line and see Warren said get that kickstand.
• 1:54:35
  You put that hand on the hip, he breathing hard.
• 1:54:37
  I'm like, we got him. We got game over.
• 1:54:39
  And so that's, you know, that's the type of dude that Tucker is.
• 1:54:42
  You know, when you get him doing tight end reverses, he's part of
• 1:54:46
  the tish push now. You know, he's holding on to the
• 1:54:48
  rock. That saves Jordan from getting
• 1:54:50
  banged up doing that. So that's a bonus there.
• 1:54:52
  And he just had that mentality once I saw the film of when he
• 1:54:56
  got drafted, you know, a couple years ago, I said, oh, they got
• 1:54:59
  to do. I saw him catching the ball and
• 1:55:01
  running and stiff forming. And what you see right there on
• 1:55:04
  on film, right there against the Rams, he was doing that at SDU.
• 1:55:06
  So I'm like Rs and SDU state. I was like I said, Oh, we got a
• 1:55:11
  we got to do. So I'm excited about him and how
• 1:55:13
  he develops and the injury. It's just a bump in the road.
• 1:55:16
  He's going to come back full goal another.
• 1:55:19
  And then that weapon, you know, another weapon for Jordan's
• 1:55:22
  arsenal that has a bunch of young ride receivers that are
• 1:55:24
  hungry. You got a young veteran running
• 1:55:26
  back with Josh Jacobs and I love his style.
• 1:55:29
  I say I'm a little taller than him.
• 1:55:30
  So that makes that's only makes the difference between him and
• 1:55:33
  I. So he's me.
• 1:55:33
  I could say many me, but he's he's a big man on campus running
• 1:55:37
  the ball. And I like that because then the
• 1:55:40
  offense is not just one one way balanced.
• 1:55:43
  You know, it's not just run heavy.
• 1:55:44
  You got to you got to stop the pass.
• 1:55:46
  And if you don't, you know what we going to beat you up in the
• 1:55:48
  middle between the A&B gaps with with Josh and Emmanuel Wilson as
• 1:55:52
  well. He coming off the bench to
• 1:55:54
  running, running the ball very well.
• 1:55:56
  You know, the one part that that was I say kind of the sucky part
• 1:55:59
  of the end is Zach, Tom and Lee Davis from the free agent from
• 1:56:03
  San Francisco having the injuries that slowed them up.
• 1:56:06
  You know, that was something that as a pro and at any level,
• 1:56:10
  you know, when you have key players beat up, you see the
• 1:56:12
  difference on the football field of, of how effective they are.
• 1:56:16
  You know, when they're 50%, you know, out there just trying to
• 1:56:19
  get it going to when they're 100%.
• 1:56:22
  So you saw that towards the end of the season.
• 1:56:24
  I want to go to the team you started your career with, the
• 1:56:26
  Seattle Seahawks, obviously winning the Super Bowl MVP,
• 1:56:27
  being a running back in Kenneth Walker, your position now
• 1:56:30
  there's a discussion of whether they they resign him or not.
• 1:56:33
  He wants 13 million a year. Obviously the running back
• 1:56:34
  contract market has not been great.
• 1:56:36
  What are your impressions? Obviously, the Seahawks
• 1:56:38
  dominance with the Super Bowl, for one, with their defense and
• 1:56:40
  their running game and with running back contracts in
• 1:56:42
  general across the NFL. I'll say yeah, with my
• 1:56:45
  impression of the game. Amazing.
• 1:56:46
  I knew both teams had defenses, but I didn't realize they were
• 1:56:50
  ranked one and two right behind each other, Right.
• 1:56:52
  And you saw the difference, though, and it was basically
• 1:56:56
  watching what I watched in person in New York when Seattle
• 1:57:00
  played Denver, when Peyton was trying to get another one.
• 1:57:02
  And the Legion of Boom said, no, not today.
• 1:57:06
  You know, we go get some pick sixes.
• 1:57:07
  We go get AK. What's that?
• 1:57:09
  KJ running a interception back, right?
• 1:57:11
  So that was the same thing. They had the defensive line.
• 1:57:14
  They had the linebackers doing their job.
• 1:57:17
  And they're, you know, balanced tackling, you know, making
• 1:57:21
  plays, getting the ball tipped and just putting pressure on
• 1:57:23
  break to where eventually he was, he was pushed in a
• 1:57:27
  situation where, you know what, I got to throw this ball up to
• 1:57:29
  see what happens. You know, that's where the
• 1:57:31
  turnovers happen. And then when you when the
• 1:57:33
  defense does that, they pretty much got the game in hand.
• 1:57:35
  And you know what wasn't much scoring early, but it came
• 1:57:38
  later, you know, so I like it. I always liked some from the
• 1:57:41
  time he got on the team. Kenny Walker the third he is
• 1:57:44
  he's a shifty back and he's a small back, but he runs hard and
• 1:57:47
  another. So he's kind of a another
• 1:57:49
  throwback guy like Josh Jacobs that we have in Green Bay.
• 1:57:52
  So watching him run, it's fun, you know, because he he sets up,
• 1:57:57
  he's almost got that Le'veon bell patients where he sets up,
• 1:57:59
  takes his time walk through the hole and then boom, he's
• 1:58:01
  exploding through the hole and he's passing.
• 1:58:03
  And that for a defender, trust me, that's a sucky feeling to
• 1:58:07
  see the running back get past you and you're like, God bigger.
• 1:58:09
  He was right here. It's like, no, he's gone, you
• 1:58:12
  know? So that offense along with what
• 1:58:15
  a Darnold did you know, because he helped kept that patience,
• 1:58:19
  that experience that he's gained from being a Jet first rounder
• 1:58:22
  to a backup 49er. To why are you trying to kill
• 1:58:24
  me? I'm in.
• 1:58:25
  Why are you killing me here? You had to mention it.
• 1:58:28
  You had to bring up The Jets. You had to every single ex
• 1:58:33
  athlete that comes on the show, they got to slip that in.
• 1:58:36
  They had to. Slip the New York Jets.
• 1:58:37
  It's business. Got it.
• 1:58:39
  I got it. Just.
• 1:58:40
  We just met, OK, We just met. So it's business.
• 1:58:43
  It's all business. I'm just freaking facts of what
• 1:58:45
  I saw on the field and I'm breaking making it down because
• 1:58:49
  what he did in Minnesota and then come to another team, and I
• 1:58:51
  told this to Josh Jacobs for his first year.
• 1:58:54
  I'm like to do what you did, come into this team as a Packer
• 1:58:57
  and become a Pro Bowl player, not just regardless of his
• 1:59:00
  position. That's not an easy thing to do.
• 1:59:03
  You know, it took me a couple years when I got traded, then it
• 1:59:06
  was in my second year. O1 is being where I became a Pro
• 1:59:09
  Bowler. So to do that year one out of
• 1:59:11
  the chute, you know, from a team where you got, you know, free
• 1:59:15
  agent, let him go from the Raiders and he goes to Green Bay
• 1:59:17
  Pro Bowl first year, that's magic.
• 1:59:19
  And he did it again this year. So, so no business, always
• 1:59:22
  business, just spitting facts. Man, business.
• 1:59:24
  No pleasure. I mean no pleasure for me when I
• 1:59:26
  hear that. As soon as you bring up The Jets
• 1:59:29
  and I can remember Sam Donald getting drafted as the third
• 1:59:32
  pick, youngest quarterback ever drafted.
• 1:59:34
  And I was so pissed off when The Jets traded him for a two and a
• 1:59:38
  four and watch this guy win a Super Bowl and hoist that at
• 1:59:41
  Lombardy Trophy. I was like why me?
• 1:59:43
  Why me as a Jet fan? As it always is said by the way,
• 1:59:48
  for everybody to know, we are talking to former 12 year Pro
• 1:59:51
  Bowl running back, a man Green played in from 1998 to 2009 long
• 1:59:57
  career with the Seattle Seahawks, the Packers and the
• 1:59:59
  Texans. IA lot of fans want to know what
• 2:00:02
  type of quarterback Brett Favre is in the locker room and what
• 2:00:06
  type of quarterback Aaron Rodgers is.
• 2:00:09
  You know, you got a chance to get to know both guys.
• 2:00:12
  What? Type of personalities are both
• 2:00:15
  these guys. I say Brett, he is in the locker
• 2:00:18
  room the fun. He's a fun going guy.
• 2:00:20
  He doesn't like the room temperature to get below 98°.
• 2:00:25
  You don't want it to be cold and uncomfortable and nobody having
• 2:00:28
  fun. So he played a lot of practical
• 2:00:31
  jokes. He had a fart machine on the
• 2:00:32
  daily. He will pour water bottle a full
• 2:00:36
  thing of cold water on your head just to wake you up or Gatorade
• 2:00:39
  to really mess up your practice uniform.
• 2:00:41
  That was him and Aaron was the I say more, I say sneaky about the
• 2:00:46
  practical joke. He was a joker too, but he would
• 2:00:49
  be more inside joke ish, kind of like the new generation is, you
• 2:00:53
  know, having inside jokes, laughing amongst a couple of the
• 2:00:57
  quarterbacks or what have you. And so but it but it but a solid
• 2:01:00
  teammate and somebody that you want to go out there and make
• 2:01:03
  sure you're protecting them. As you know, as that was my job.
• 2:01:06
  I, I called, I, I in my head, I was the last line of defense for
• 2:01:10
  both guys when, you know, I played more with Brett, but the
• 2:01:12
  few times I had with Aaron, I'm like, I'm, I'm the, I'm the
• 2:01:15
  Kevlar, you know, we got the electric fence with the
• 2:01:18
  offensive line and I'm not, I'm literally stuck to the, the, the
• 2:01:22
  quarterback's body. So I'm, it, I'm the last person
• 2:01:25
  that somebody's going to try to walk through to get to the
• 2:01:27
  quarterback. So I made sure I protected them
• 2:01:30
  both. And I say off the on the field,
• 2:01:35
  Brett was one of those guys that he's a physical guy for
• 2:01:38
  quarterback, a guy that you know, he's going to, if you get
• 2:01:41
  past a lot of scrimmage, he's going to do something that is
• 2:01:43
  going to probably piss the head coach off.
• 2:01:45
  You don't throw a block or trying to run somebody over and
• 2:01:48
  be like, Brett, save that for me and Dorsey or whoever else is
• 2:01:51
  running the ball or bubble catching the ball.
• 2:01:53
  Let us do the running. You do the throwing and the
• 2:01:56
  reading the coverages and stuff like that.
• 2:01:58
  And say, Speaking of cover, just every now and then we had to
• 2:02:00
  tell him, hey, man, you can't throw the ball in there.
• 2:02:02
  You know, three guys, you got three giants right there.
• 2:02:05
  You have three jets. Don't throw the ball.
• 2:02:06
  Throw it to the out of bounds or to me.
• 2:02:08
  I'm in the flat, wide open, you know.
• 2:02:11
  But you love him. And he gave it all he could and
• 2:02:14
  he was a big kid. And then Aaron to seeing him
• 2:02:16
  when I was with him young and developing preseason ball, he
• 2:02:20
  played a lot. We, we had more time then and
• 2:02:22
  there. And then obviously training
• 2:02:24
  camp, the way he threw the ball in practice, the way I've seen
• 2:02:26
  him throw the ball in some of the games I had early with him.
• 2:02:29
  And then I see later in O 9. I knew right away, I say this is
• 2:02:32
  the next dude, he just going to have to wait his turn.
• 2:02:34
  You know, when he got there, it was O 5 and he didn't get on
• 2:02:37
  that field to I say 2008 he was on it a little bit in O 7, but 8
• 2:02:41
  was when Coach McCarthy gave him the keys to the car.
• 2:02:44
  And we didn't know it was going to be another 20 years slate and
• 2:02:48
  Super Bowl win and all that, but we knew that this is another
• 2:02:52
  dude, that I'm fortunate for the Packer organization to have
• 2:02:56
  decades of another great quarterback.
• 2:02:58
  And that just makes it all easier to try to game plan,
• 2:03:02
  offense, defense, to make sure that team is doing what they
• 2:03:04
  need to do offensively to move the ball.
• 2:03:06
  Mike McCarthy just was hired to do a job over there in
• 2:03:10
  Pittsburgh, his hometown, his home city, and I love Mike
• 2:03:13
  McCarthy. I thought that the Giants should
• 2:03:15
  have hired Mike McCarthy if they want to develop a quarterback.
• 2:03:18
  Jackson Dart, he developed Aaron Rodgers.
• 2:03:21
  He. He's damn good at doing that.
• 2:03:22
  Yeah, and Dak Prescott, too. Look at what Dak Prescott's
• 2:03:25
  numbers transitioned into when he took over there for the
• 2:03:28
  Cowboys. I thought the Giants did a
• 2:03:30
  disservice for Jackson Dart. Not that John Horrible's not a
• 2:03:32
  great coach. I thought Mike McCarthy was a
• 2:03:34
  better fit. What type of coach is Mike
• 2:03:38
  McCarthy for all the Pittsburgh fans that get to know who he is?
• 2:03:42
  I say coming in first year, usually what he does is he gets
• 2:03:46
  to know everybody. He gets to know the lay of the
• 2:03:48
  land. He starts off with his in the
• 2:03:50
  locker room with his players and then coaches, obviously GM as
• 2:03:54
  well. And then he gets to know the
• 2:03:56
  town, but he already knows the town.
• 2:03:57
  He's one of those townies. He's a townie.
• 2:04:00
  He's from that area. So that is going to be his
• 2:04:03
  comfort zone. And then once he gets in and
• 2:04:07
  introduces himself and everybody, he treats everybody
• 2:04:09
  like a man, like a grown ass man.
• 2:04:11
  He tells you, shoots you straight.
• 2:04:13
  When you want to hear something you want to hear, he's going to
• 2:04:14
  say it. When you don't want to hear
• 2:04:15
  something you don't want to hear, he's going to shoot you.
• 2:04:17
  She's going to tell you, you know, so and and and for me, I
• 2:04:22
  didn't want it any other way. I had my mom and dad raised me
• 2:04:24
  that way. My dad, you have to always never
• 2:04:27
  beat around the Bush. You know, when I when I was in
• 2:04:29
  trouble, I was in trouble. You know, when I needed
• 2:04:32
  something corrected, it got corrected.
• 2:04:33
  So having coach McCarthy and coaches like him through my
• 2:04:36
  throughout my career, from college to pro, those are the
• 2:04:39
  coaches I like the assistants that don't matter this long.
• 2:04:42
  You can read me the riot at any time, but coach me help me get
• 2:04:46
  better. And that's what he did.
• 2:04:48
  We had, I remember my first year with him in O 6.
• 2:04:51
  It was just, it was kind of a miscommunication on a few
• 2:04:54
  instances where I've misread the schedule, like when we needed to
• 2:04:57
  be on the practice field, but right before practice.
• 2:05:00
  And if I know you guys heard of Lombardi time was quite a 10
• 2:05:03
  minutes before. And I remember I came out, I
• 2:05:06
  think practice special team practice was just wrapping up
• 2:05:10
  and I was probably like 10 minutes.
• 2:05:12
  I was like 5 or two minutes. I was within 5 minutes of our
• 2:05:15
  next practice and he comes over to me.
• 2:05:18
  He said AG, I need you to get here a little early.
• 2:05:20
  I'm like, I'm on time though. He's like just a little bit
• 2:05:23
  because you know, the younger guys are watching you, one of
• 2:05:26
  our leaders. And I'm like, first it kind of
• 2:05:28
  bugged me a little bit, but then it clicked like argue with, I
• 2:05:30
  was like, OK, coach, I got you, you know, And it took a little
• 2:05:33
  bit for me to get used to that because I was already early.
• 2:05:36
  But he wants to get, you know, get there so he kind of can have
• 2:05:39
  the leaders of the team, like I was one of them and show the
• 2:05:42
  rookies like, this is how we do it.
• 2:05:43
  We get out there 5-10 minutes early to make sure we have that
• 2:05:47
  leadership. Because he knows it's not just
• 2:05:49
  him leading the team along with the coaches.
• 2:05:51
  It's like it's the players at certain positions that been
• 2:05:54
  there for a minute or just shows this is how you play football.
• 2:05:57
  This is how you're being for a professional and go out here or
• 2:06:01
  practice to then transition over into the game field on Saturdays
• 2:06:04
  on preseason fall or Sundays on game day coming the regular
• 2:06:07
  season. So last year we had one of your
• 2:06:10
  teammates on the show, one of our favorite interviews we ever
• 2:06:11
  did that was Leroy Butler. Safety got inducted a few years
• 2:06:15
  ago. He actually some great Brett
• 2:06:16
  Farve and Reggie White store. Hall of Famer Speedy.
• 2:06:18
  Hall, I said all. Of favor, I said all of the hall
• 2:06:21
  of. Favor give her some respect, I
• 2:06:22
  said. He got.
• 2:06:23
  Inducted in the Hall of Fame 3 years ago.
• 2:06:24
  We interviewed him when he was in his car and his son was in
• 2:06:27
  the backseat, but we interviewed him.
• 2:06:28
  Yes, and it was the best car service many of our guests have
• 2:06:31
  ever had, but OK. He also, yeah, it was also
• 2:06:33
  funny. He was also making Errol seem
• 2:06:35
  like he was like 10 years younger than he was.
• 2:06:36
  It was and it was funny like. So what was your experience like
• 2:06:41
  with him? He was kind of towards the end
• 2:06:43
  of the career when he went to Green Bay.
• 2:06:44
  But how was he on and off the field?
• 2:06:46
  Oh, he was great guy. He was a solid teammate.
• 2:06:48
  And like when I got there in 2000 and a lot of those guys
• 2:06:51
  were still there, part of the Super Bowl team.
• 2:06:54
  The 1916, you know, in my head, I was so focused and locked in
• 2:06:58
  like when I got traded along with a couple other things, like
• 2:07:01
  not one to go back to the Midwest, but I'm like, I'm going
• 2:07:05
  to a place where they've been in the Super Bowls.
• 2:07:08
  You know, this team in particular, not the
• 2:07:09
  organization, but this, these 11-12 guys to an offense, 11-12
• 2:07:14
  guys on defense. They just were at 2 Super Bowls.
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  They lost the Denver and one then the other one they, they
• 2:07:18
  beat the New England Patriots. So I'm coming into a place where
• 2:07:22
  I got to be on my best behavior and I got to be a playing grade
• 2:07:26
  A football, like top in football no matter what, even in
• 2:07:28
  practice, you know, and my first mini camp, I remember just
• 2:07:31
  walking in that huddle being a fan like, man, this is Brett
• 2:07:35
  Favre, this is William Henderson, across the ball is
• 2:07:39
  Gilbert Brown and then Leroy Butler.
• 2:07:41
  He had a couple sacks in the Super Bowl.
• 2:07:43
  I was like, OK, man, that means I kind of come out here and be
• 2:07:45
  that dude that they expect me to and that's why I got traded
• 2:07:48
  here. So that's it started at day one.
• 2:07:51
  And then the other part that made it easier was the fact they
• 2:07:54
  walking me in just like I was a part of the game for the last
• 2:07:57
  couple years. It was no hazing.
• 2:08:00
  It was no, you know, giving me a hard time about anything.
• 2:08:03
  It was like, hey, man, how you doing?
• 2:08:04
  You know, you just got traded from Seattle.
• 2:08:06
  A so and so was in Seattle and it was all welcoming.
• 2:08:09
  So that open arm style from even Dorsey and William Henderson,
• 2:08:13
  the running backs, right, running back fullback where
• 2:08:15
  obviously as at a place with a great guy, you know, person
• 2:08:19
  Ricky Waters. But he knew he had a competitive
• 2:08:22
  nature about himself that he knew that I was the incumbent
• 2:08:25
  running back and he knew I was one of those dudes that could
• 2:08:28
  push him, you know, and get him out the job.
• 2:08:30
  But you know, it's like I said at the part when I mentioned The
• 2:08:33
  Jets, it's business, not personal, and you got to
• 2:08:36
  understand. That it's a lot of personal with
• 2:08:38
  the New York Jets, yeah, it's a lot of.
• 2:08:40
  Personal. But.
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  Dorsey, you know, he took me in, you know, and that helped me in
• 2:08:46
  my process of transitioning over as a Packer and get into the the
• 2:08:49
  offensive playbook, which was Coach Sherman who was there in
• 2:08:52
  Seattle with me, but then brought me over and kept his
• 2:08:54
  same verbiage, which is that helped me a whole lot in the
• 2:08:56
  next couple years to transition over and become one of the guys
• 2:09:00
  at in Green Bay. We are talking to former 12 year
• 2:09:03
  Pro Bowler. Yes, Pro Bowl running back on
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  Man Green. Played from 98 to 2009 with the
• 2:09:09
  Seahawks, the Packers and the Texans.
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  Mr. Green, 2003 was your greatest year.
• 2:09:14
  It was unbelievable. You had 15 touchdowns.
• 2:09:18
  You had over 1800 yards. You were unbelievable.
• 2:09:21
  You really, you were having a Saquon Barkley year where it was
• 2:09:26
  just unstoppable. Yeah, you were, you were
• 2:09:28
  sensational and honestly, for like a three or four year stand,
• 2:09:32
  you were the best running back in the league.
• 2:09:33
  You can argue you were a top three running back and all of
• 2:09:36
  football. That's how good you were.
• 2:09:38
  It's an amazing actually. It was four years.
• 2:09:40
  That was just back-to-back 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004.
• 2:09:44
  Everybody knew who you were, how dominant you were.
• 2:09:47
  What was that trigger that switched you into being an elite
• 2:09:50
  running back? What gave you that thought that
• 2:09:53
  you can be an elite running back in this league?
• 2:09:55
  I knew it. Once I got drafted, it just I
• 2:09:57
  was pissed off and I was a third round pick at Seattle.
• 2:09:59
  That that's what that's what happened.
• 2:10:01
  That's what started it and I became a special teamer because
• 2:10:04
  I could, you know, they drafted or they they free agent Ricky
• 2:10:07
  Waters in from the Eagles and he was the big money back.
• 2:10:11
  So that's why I learned business, right.
• 2:10:13
  They going to pay the, you know, the guy who's going to get paid
• 2:10:15
  the most is going to get the ball regardless of who's better.
• 2:10:18
  I learned that year 1. And so I was like, you know
• 2:10:20
  what, all right, I'm going to make this.
• 2:10:22
  I'm going to make lemon lemonade out of lemons.
• 2:10:24
  I'm not going to be sour puss. Oh, man, I'm not starting.
• 2:10:27
  I'm not the guy. You know what?
• 2:10:29
  I'm going to go back and bust some heads on this kickoff
• 2:10:30
  coverage, you know, make some plays on punt return and then
• 2:10:34
  whatever happens, happens. I became the third down back my
• 2:10:38
  rookie year. I end up setting a record for
• 2:10:40
  conversions of third and one and fourth and one my rookie year,
• 2:10:43
  and then same thing my second year and then boom.
• 2:10:46
  That's why Mike Sherman traded for me in the trade with Fred
• 2:10:49
  Vincent and a fifth round conditional big, you know, right
• 2:10:51
  before the day before the draft and they Seattle.
• 2:10:54
  Robbery. Yes, and they drafted Sean
• 2:10:58
  Alexander, another great back out of Alabama to Seattle and I
• 2:11:01
  get the Green Bay so even bigger chip on my shoulder like, oh, I
• 2:11:04
  see what they'll see what the game plan was here.
• 2:11:06
  You know, make Mike Holborn. He labeled me a fumbler and
• 2:11:09
  which I knew I wasn't. Sometimes you just have a bad
• 2:11:11
  game. Sometimes you have some bad
• 2:11:13
  moments as a young player and you get stuff in your head and
• 2:11:16
  you got to shake it out and I did.
• 2:11:17
  I always knew I so I shook that off and that's why those four
• 2:11:20
  years went the way those did. You know things after that, you
• 2:11:24
  know, some things going on off the field with my family.
• 2:11:26
  So it was kind of distracting a little bit in 05.
• 2:11:29
  Tore my quad and all that and but came back 06, got the 1000
• 2:11:33
  yards again and, you know, went free agency, free agent to the
• 2:11:37
  Texans. Didn't quite work out there.
• 2:11:39
  And that's sometimes the way the ball bounces.
• 2:11:41
  But always for like those four years, like you mentioned, it
• 2:11:44
  was those between my draft years to then transit into Green Bay.
• 2:11:48
  Look, give me an opportunity to prove that a Nebraska running
• 2:11:52
  back can do the job of an NFL running back, because that was
• 2:11:55
  the question. He's he's a Nebraska back.
• 2:11:57
  He's a system guy. He's only got that because they
• 2:11:59
  got big hogs up front blocking for him and you got an option
• 2:12:02
  offense that's 50 years old. I'm like, damn sure works, you
• 2:12:06
  know, So what's the what's the problem?
• 2:12:08
  But I wanted to approve all that from all the scouts that looked
• 2:12:12
  me over and just thought I was a guy that couldn't last four
• 2:12:14
  quarters. That wasn't fast.
• 2:12:16
  Well, I rent a 4140 at my pro day.
• 2:12:18
  I don't think a lot of people know that I rent a 417 and a 418
• 2:12:22
  and you still think I'm not that dude.
• 2:12:24
  But OK, I'll get opportunity to prove it.
• 2:12:25
  And when I do, I'm I'm hit you with a knife and turn and twist
• 2:12:30
  and say, hey, you should have drafted me for everybody that
• 2:12:32
  passed me over in the in the 98 draft.
• 2:12:35
  That was kind of my mindset for every team I played against.
• 2:12:38
  You know what's funny, Because we have a Nebraska guy in
• 2:12:41
  Joplin. I was wondering, what does that
• 2:12:43
  do mean? It seems like every Nebraska
• 2:12:45
  person that we've had on the show that played for Nebraska
• 2:12:48
  football or Nebraska sports was like, oh, he's that dude, He's
• 2:12:51
  that dude. He's that dude that we actually
• 2:12:54
  created a segment, which we're going to call it.
• 2:12:56
  He's that dude. So now I'm starting to realize
• 2:12:59
  where this is coming from. It's all from the the cornfields
• 2:13:02
  in Nebraska. That's Prince Mukamara.
• 2:13:04
  He's that dude. So no, no, he's that dude.
• 2:13:06
  I'm that dude. We're all that dude.
• 2:13:08
  I, I, that's what I'm starting to read here.
• 2:13:10
  The running back position has been an important position over
• 2:13:15
  the last two years. And we look at the elite running
• 2:13:18
  backs in the NFL. And I got a chance to meet
• 2:13:20
  Ashton Genti at the Heisman the year before this past anymore,
• 2:13:25
  and I thought he was the Heisman Trophy winner.
• 2:13:28
  I love what he did for Boise stayed he he's got a great
• 2:13:31
  personality. He was such a likable person.
• 2:13:33
  And I thought he got robbed. And then I got a chance to watch
• 2:13:36
  him this year with the Raiders. And I think the Raiders didn't
• 2:13:38
  use him right. They didn't have the they didn't
• 2:13:41
  have the offensive line. Like you said, you needed the
• 2:13:43
  beef up there. They didn't really protect him.
• 2:13:45
  What do you think a running back going into the NFL needs to know
• 2:13:50
  to make them understand the speed of the game in the
• 2:13:53
  transition from college to the NFL?
• 2:13:56
  That the speed of the game for running back is going to come a
• 2:14:00
  lot easier because we are in the thick of it.
• 2:14:03
  So we're right in the offensive line in terms of ISO plays,
• 2:14:06
  counter outside zone pitch plays now the RPO action.
• 2:14:10
  So you're going to get it early, you know, come preseason ball
• 2:14:14
  and then by that time you played a lot of preseason ball probably
• 2:14:17
  like y'all say for example, Gente did because he was that
• 2:14:19
  dude, because they had you know, they had other people behind
• 2:14:22
  him, but he would he was drafted first round for a reason.
• 2:14:25
  That makes it easier. And the really the other part is
• 2:14:27
  a lot of people don't really, I don't think they see this is the
• 2:14:30
  elephant in the room. Run plays are the same from the
• 2:14:33
  high school level all the way up to the pro level.
• 2:14:35
  That's. True ISO at a high school level,
• 2:14:37
  it's the same ISO you run at Nebraska, the same ISO you run
• 2:14:40
  at Boise State. To the I say my so you're going
• 2:14:41
  to run it. The Raiders power, power gap
• 2:14:46
  counter, outside toss outside zone.
• 2:14:49
  It's the same footwork. So he's not having to think
• 2:14:53
  about, OK, I got to learn cover 3 coverage and I got to learn
• 2:14:56
  when they're going to blitz from the backside to the place.
• 2:14:59
  What happens on the mug when the linebackers in an A&B guy, What
• 2:15:02
  do I that's past stuff, OK, but you can live and learn and make
• 2:15:06
  mistakes, but then pick it up fast.
• 2:15:08
  But the run game, what we already do is we've been doing
• 2:15:11
  it for 1215 years since Little League and I think a lot of
• 2:15:14
  people missed that. I'm like a lot of the run plays
• 2:15:16
  that. I ran.
• 2:15:17
  In Little League, I was running at Green Bay, I was running at
• 2:15:20
  Seattle, I was running at the Texans.
• 2:15:22
  So that means for 30 plus years I've been doing this since I was
• 2:15:26
  yay high to a grasshopper. So it's like, OK, you know, but
• 2:15:29
  for the quarterback position, that's a whole different thing,
• 2:15:31
  right? You know, you got players from
• 2:15:33
  the players to the DCS that are disguising coverages, They're
• 2:15:37
  cheating, making a cover three look like a cover 1.
• 2:15:40
  You know, it's all that for us. The run game is like, okay, we
• 2:15:43
  run. You get the ball, you read your
• 2:15:45
  blocks just like we did and 5th grade, you watch the double team
• 2:15:49
  up to the linebacker, then you make your cut off of that.
• 2:15:51
  Nothing changes. So if you have the talent and
• 2:15:53
  you know that going into every game plan, then you're going to
• 2:15:57
  do things that everybody's going to be like, Oh my God, why is he
• 2:15:59
  doing that? I'm like, oh, because I paid
• 2:16:01
  attention. Oh, I got it.
• 2:16:02
  So Armand Green is telling you all, all the players out there
• 2:16:06
  that want to get into football, be a running back.
• 2:16:08
  So if you have the athletic ability and you don't really
• 2:16:12
  have to know anything, just learn what you're learning in
• 2:16:14
  high school and peewee football and you're going to do that you.
• 2:16:18
  Do have you do have to know something?
• 2:16:20
  I'll say that one. I say after that, after that,
• 2:16:23
  was it Mark? You got to be the hammer, not
• 2:16:26
  the nail. There you go.
• 2:16:28
  All right, don't, don't be somebody that absorbs hits.
• 2:16:31
  Give it out. If you're going to be a runner,
• 2:16:34
  be that dude. Be like, OK, I want to make it a
• 2:16:36
  problem. I want to make the defenders not
• 2:16:38
  want to be around me, basically. And I remember one game it was,
• 2:16:43
  it was my Seattle, Seattle, couple years, I can't remember
• 2:16:46
  what game, rookie year maybe. And we played against when they
• 2:16:49
  were still the Houston Oilers, not at Tennessee Titans.
• 2:16:52
  And Max Strong, my full back, you remember that name?
• 2:16:56
  Great full back, great full back, great guy off the field,
• 2:16:59
  family man, awesome dude, great full back on the field.
• 2:17:02
  And he had one and he went to Georgia.
• 2:17:04
  We played the Oilers and one of the guys on the Oilers was his
• 2:17:07
  teammate at Georgia was a linebacker.
• 2:17:09
  I can't remember who it was, but I remember Matt comes up and
• 2:17:13
  grabs me on the shoulder after we're walking in.
• 2:17:14
  He's like AG, he said. I don't know what you did, but
• 2:17:17
  one of my boys I went to college with said till #30 to slow his
• 2:17:20
  ass down. He's running too fast and hard.
• 2:17:25
  I'm like me. You're doing it right, man.
• 2:17:27
  You're right. I mean.
• 2:17:28
  I said I'm back. I can't do that.
• 2:17:30
  I'm I'm fed. I'm pedal to the metal for four
• 2:17:32
  quarters. I know I'm not.
• 2:17:33
  I was even. I was just on special teams dead
• 2:17:35
  blocking people in the tackle. And he's like, slow down.
• 2:17:37
  I'm like, I ain't slowing down. I ain't getting cut.
• 2:17:39
  What's your problem? You better speed up with me.
• 2:17:41
  Come on. There you go, You know.
• 2:17:43
  Keep up with the Greenster. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:17:46
  My last question I'm on Nathan was telling me you do a lot of
• 2:17:48
  stuff since you've retired from the league with gaming.
• 2:17:51
  You actually caught taught at Lakeland University a actually
• 2:17:54
  an E sports class. You have your own gaming company
• 2:17:57
  now and you've also done some broadcasting work, so talk about
• 2:17:59
  some of the stuff you've done off.
• 2:18:00
  The field man, a little bit of everything.
• 2:18:01
  So yeah, I coached at Lakeland University for almost 2 years
• 2:18:05
  where I first semester was a Madden Championship national
• 2:18:09
  title. Curtis Dokey.
• 2:18:10
  Shout out to my man Curtis Dokey who was the player that I
• 2:18:12
  coached. 13 and no season and we beat, I believe Mr. Mcgiggles
• 2:18:17
  from Carthage College in in the in the NECC for a national
• 2:18:22
  title. Second, we were runner up the
• 2:18:23
  second semester in the fall. And then about 12 or 13 playoff
• 2:18:28
  bursts between Overwatch, Call of Duty, Fortnite players, FIFA,
• 2:18:33
  Super Smash Brothers, Rowing Boat 6, Siege, League of
• 2:18:36
  Legends, all those games. I've been a gamer since the age
• 2:18:38
  of 5. My dad did that because he was
• 2:18:41
  APC guy. He was a guy at a aviation
• 2:18:45
  facility in north of California in South Central LA or Northup
• 2:18:49
  Aviation, which is similar to Boeing.
• 2:18:51
  And that's when it started for me.
• 2:18:52
  And so now I've turned it into a the next passion, just like
• 2:18:55
  football. I love doing it.
• 2:18:57
  I love video games, but also I love the part that relates to
• 2:19:00
  football or baseball. Basketball is the team aspect
• 2:19:03
  and some of the skills you learn, you know, accountability,
• 2:19:06
  you know, dedication, hard work. When you think about video
• 2:19:09
  games, you probably don't think that because you think about
• 2:19:11
  Pac-Man and some of the retro games.
• 2:19:13
  Legend of Zelda, Yeah, those are the fun games.
• 2:19:15
  Oh, I love, I love Zelda. Love.
• 2:19:17
  Yeah, But yeah, you look at the games today that are more
• 2:19:20
  competitive, right? Call of Duty, Fortnite, Madden,
• 2:19:23
  you know, NBA2K, you know, those games are have they have
• 2:19:27
  leagues. So now at the college level, all
• 2:19:29
  around America and around the world, they are universities,
• 2:19:32
  they're esports organizations that now just like NBA players,
• 2:19:36
  just like NFL players, they, they get drafted or they get
• 2:19:39
  picked up, they get signed and they got to practice, they got
• 2:19:42
  training, they got to work on their mechanics and all that.
• 2:19:45
  And so did that at Lakeland, transferred over to Nebraska,
• 2:19:49
  had a couple. I started that program there,
• 2:19:51
  helped that program get off the ground.
• 2:19:53
  And now, you know, I just end up doing my own thing, consulting
• 2:19:56
  now on the road. I do E sports camps for kids,
• 2:19:59
  middle school, high school, then down to middle school kids to
• 2:20:02
  teach them how to, you know, play video games the proper way.
• 2:20:05
  You know, when you're going to be in a team setting.
• 2:20:07
  Look, you got to hold your own. You got to be accountable for
• 2:20:09
  your role. If you're going to, you know, be
• 2:20:12
  a tank in Overwatch or you're going to be the DPS in a in a
• 2:20:16
  matchup like Marvel. I was anything I like.
• 2:20:19
  That's a great graphic. I love it.
• 2:20:22
  Oh man, but but yeah, teaching those fundamentals and so I'm
• 2:20:26
  doing that as well. Have a couple podcasts and Mind
• 2:20:28
  Greens Gamers Lounge, just one that's on Twitch, do that every
• 2:20:31
  Wednesday at 2:00 PM. And then I do my believe in
• 2:20:34
  Packers within the Believe network where I break down the
• 2:20:36
  Packers and the season and all that and that's why I know about
• 2:20:39
  them very much. And then now getting ready for a
• 2:20:42
  combine, and I'm glad Le Four got resigned.
• 2:20:44
  They needed to do that because him not being resigned would
• 2:20:47
  have been a problem for many reasons.
• 2:20:49
  So good job with a goodie kiss, getting him signed back on and
• 2:20:52
  getting ready for the combine. But then another job.
• 2:20:56
  I say not job, but I say job. Yeah, I got brought into him.
• 2:21:00
  I got moved down to Houston two years ago and a neighbor of
• 2:21:03
  mine, we became friends. Even though he's a Bears fan and
• 2:21:06
  a Buckeyes fan, he's a great guy.
• 2:21:09
  And I met his brother. So Ken and Keith and we're both
• 2:21:12
  part of company business that Ken came up with is called
• 2:21:16
  emerging due diligence where we are AM and a company.
• 2:21:20
  So we're working in acquisitions and for mergers and some I never
• 2:21:23
  thought I'd be a part of. But what I found out is talking
• 2:21:26
  to Ken about it, that once we do call to work with a company,
• 2:21:30
  they have to learn leadership development.
• 2:21:33
  They got to learn some of those leadership skills, become some.
• 2:21:35
  Sometimes at the top of a Fortune 500 business, the CEO,
• 2:21:40
  the head, the founder may be the problem.
• 2:21:42
  You know, like, for example, the Detroit Lions 10 years ago, that
• 2:21:48
  wasn't the players on the field. It was the people up top, the
• 2:21:51
  people that own the team, the Fords, they couldn't figure out
• 2:21:54
  their right from left or do the business right.
• 2:21:56
  Same with the Cowboys, right? Jerry Jones even know he's a
• 2:21:59
  good businessman. Sometimes the good businessmen
• 2:22:02
  and women, they don't get out the way of themselves to let
• 2:22:05
  football coaches be football coaches or BGM.
• 2:22:07
  Let the GM be the GM and he's the GM, you know, I'm saying, so
• 2:22:11
  teaching that leadership side of it, accountability and stuff,
• 2:22:14
  that's my job with it. Keith and Ken, him and his, him
• 2:22:18
  and his brother, they are the part of the guys that do all the
• 2:22:20
  financial due diligence. Make sure this company that
• 2:22:22
  we're going to work with is going to be somebody that
• 2:22:25
  obviously is going to have success and have the awareness
• 2:22:29
  to basically make pivots if they need to and certain investments
• 2:22:33
  and pivots when they don't need to.
• 2:22:34
  And so that's where we all come in as a team.
• 2:22:36
  So I've been working on that too.
• 2:22:38
  That's why I'm sweating, you know?
• 2:22:40
  Are you? You don't look like you're
• 2:22:42
  sweating. Yeah, but but no, in that space,
• 2:22:45
  A space that I never thought I would be in in in the financial
• 2:22:47
  space at the end of my football career.
• 2:22:49
  So doing real good with that. We got a couple projects going
• 2:22:52
  and I know one of them is a team over in England that we're a
• 2:22:56
  part of and their their ownership.
• 2:22:59
  And it's so fun. Like man, I get to go watch a
• 2:23:01
  pitch over and in in in England and get a spot of T governor and
• 2:23:06
  also I love that aspect. I like the Green St.
• 2:23:11
  Hooligans. I love that movie.
• 2:23:13
  That's like. My favorite fantastic movie.
• 2:23:16
  I love that. Movie I bought it like I I saw
• 2:23:18
  it at Best Buy. I was in Green Bay when it came
• 2:23:20
  out and I just it's something told me to buy it.
• 2:23:23
  I said this one I saw the actors some of the actors are still
• 2:23:26
  acting today doing fantastic job and something told me to buy it.
• 2:23:29
  I watched that movie and I'm like, OK, they got us on fan
• 2:23:35
  bases 100%. I know Packer fans are crazy.
• 2:23:37
  I know bear fans are crazy. I know Cowboy to Raider fans
• 2:23:43
  Stealer. No, you only got nothing on
• 2:23:45
  soccer fans over in over in Europe and Asia and Africa where
• 2:23:48
  other countries. Beat the hell out of each other
• 2:23:50
  and exactly it's like it. It's to me.
• 2:23:53
  Other than Philly fans. Other than Philly fans, Philly
• 2:23:56
  fans, after they win a Super Bowl, they're out there picking
• 2:23:59
  up horse dump and putting it in their mouth.
• 2:24:01
  I mean, some of the stuff that Philly fans do is this
• 2:24:03
  absolutely ridiculous and we've had a lot of ex foot Philly
• 2:24:07
  players that have come on this show and didn't even know that's
• 2:24:09
  what Philly fans do. They were paying attention in It
• 2:24:12
  doesn't take much I knew right away, like the difference
• 2:24:16
  between Packer fans and Philly fans, but I also knew Packer
• 2:24:19
  fans could get a little rowdy, right?
• 2:24:21
  So, for example, remember when Randy Moss scored the touchdown
• 2:24:25
  and Lambeau? He faked like he was mooning the
• 2:24:27
  crowd. That's right, I do remember that
• 2:24:29
  game. He got that from the crowd
• 2:24:31
  because the crowd moons the away team by the away team locker
• 2:24:34
  room on the north side of the South side of Lambeau Field.
• 2:24:38
  That's what I knew. So I wasn't mad at Randy.
• 2:24:41
  I'm like he just returning the favor to the fan boy did.
• 2:24:43
  You know, let me tell you, you know, by the way, we just so
• 2:24:47
  everybody knows we are talking to 12 year pro ball running
• 2:24:50
  back, former pro ball running back.
• 2:24:53
  I'm on green. He's he's this the first time
• 2:24:55
  he's been on a show. He's been sensational before we
• 2:24:57
  let you go and and I know you're a busy man as you're sweating
• 2:25:01
  and I'm sweating too because and we want you to that's.
• 2:25:04
  What I need to? Do by the way, this is this is a
• 2:25:06
  great interview. And then obviously you've never
• 2:25:08
  been on a show. We'd love to get you back on the
• 2:25:10
  show. I think.
• 2:25:11
  I think you're sensational. I think you have a great
• 2:25:13
  background not only with EA Sports and and all the different
• 2:25:17
  video games, E Sports as they call it.
• 2:25:20
  It's pretty amazing what you're doing.
• 2:25:21
  Offset of football. Who is the biggest pain in the
• 2:25:24
  ass on the football field? Who talked the most crap and who
• 2:25:28
  was the guy that you just love to play against?
• 2:25:31
  Every single. Game by the one that talked the
• 2:25:33
  most trash was weren't sad he talked the most even when I'm.
• 2:25:37
  I'm like walking away trying to ignore him #30 Green talk to me
• 2:25:42
  come on, brother, I'm like shut up, don't talk to me, talk to
• 2:25:44
  Brett, leave me alone. The guy that was a problem,
• 2:25:51
  Yeah, on the football field, his teammate, Derrick Brooks.
• 2:25:54
  Oh, my God. You talking about a problem?
• 2:25:57
  He knew where he was smart. He's old.
• 2:25:59
  Whenever time you run the ball, a gap, B gap, don't matter.
• 2:26:03
  He's hitting you right in your face.
• 2:26:05
  And then his teammate on top of that, another Hall of Famer,
• 2:26:07
  John Lynch. Like, God damn it.
• 2:26:09
  Like what the hell going on? I got to look left and right and
• 2:26:12
  I still we're 47. I remember my first play in
• 2:26:15
  Green Bay as a back in Tampa. Sorry packet.
• 2:26:18
  We're in Tampa Bay and Dorsey gave me a warning.
• 2:26:20
  He said AG when we get when you come off the hollow every play,
• 2:26:24
  whatever you do, find 47 pre snap, check the you know, check
• 2:26:28
  the perimeter, see where he's at because he likes to hide.
• 2:26:31
  Sometimes safeties like to do this, and he's like a
• 2:26:34
  linebacker. It's not fair.
• 2:26:36
  He says so, 547 And of course, break the huddle. 92 blasts.
• 2:26:40
  Green, right, 92 blasts. I checked the perimeter.
• 2:26:42
  Goddammit, where's 47? I can't find him.
• 2:26:45
  He came out of nowhere. And here's the and Brett goes
• 2:26:47
  into cadence. You know, green 80, green a
• 2:26:50
  shit, right? Take the ball.
• 2:26:51
  I'm like, oh, I got a hold. Boom, I cut back.
• 2:26:53
  Oh, there's 47. God damn it, that hurt.
• 2:26:55
  Oh my God, that hurt. They were Tommy Boy when he got
• 2:26:58
  hit with the the 2 by 4 by David Spade.
• 2:27:00
  Yes. That's what it's like.
• 2:27:02
  It don't hurt right here. It don't hurt right here, but
• 2:27:04
  right around. Here it hurts.
• 2:27:07
  I walked back to the other like, God damn it, Dorsey was right.
• 2:27:09
  I said. I didn't doubt Dorsey.
• 2:27:10
  I didn't. I trusted him and he was dead on
• 2:27:13
  and never happened again after that.
• 2:27:14
  Trust me, I knew where 47 was that most of the time and then a
• 2:27:19
  guy that I say, even though he's a Hall of Famer, we knew how to
• 2:27:24
  deal with this dude was Mr. Urlacher down in Chicago.
• 2:27:27
  We knew between me, my fullback and my offensive line, he was
• 2:27:30
  light in the ass. We love him that I love him to
• 2:27:33
  deaf. He is my dude.
• 2:27:34
  He's a good friend of mine. We talk a lot, we trash talk.
• 2:27:36
  It's all fun and games, but we just knew that we had Will
• 2:27:40
  Henderson. He was 61250.
• 2:27:41
  I remember 55. I was 61220.
• 2:27:45
  Prime weight was 218 and you got me both of of us running
• 2:27:49
  downhill along with Mike Wall, Marco Rivera, Mike Flanagan,
• 2:27:52
  Evan Berry, Mark Tauscher clad Clifton.
• 2:27:54
  You ain't once we get rolling, we like told coach Sherman don't
• 2:27:57
  even call nothing else other than 9296 counter gap and 95.
• 2:28:03
  Just let us run that the rest of the drive because we got we got
• 2:28:06
  Urlacher on skates the whole game like let's go.
• 2:28:09
  So so yeah, that's that answer. I know that I probably, I think
• 2:28:12
  that hit them all for all your questions there.
• 2:28:14
  You did. And by the way, Brian Urlacher,
• 2:28:16
  I I've seen some of in his weight training when he was
• 2:28:19
  playing, he was benching like 550 like 10 times off the.
• 2:28:23
  Chest he had a good upper body. He did his side upper but he but
• 2:28:26
  if you check out check out his calves.
• 2:28:30
  Now I could see. That's why he was so fast.
• 2:28:32
  Like when you get that linebacker so fast because you
• 2:28:35
  look at his legs. He was a sprinter.
• 2:28:37
  I mean, he had the talent, but it's like, oh, wait a minute,
• 2:28:40
  you can't. Forklift.
• 2:28:42
  You can't move things. I mean, I mean, I hate to say
• 2:28:45
  it, but I think what's in that? Jerome Bettis, he trucked them,
• 2:28:48
  too. Oh, yeah.
• 2:28:49
  That was a weakness. We exposed it.
• 2:28:51
  Did you have in some cases, did you have some cases?
• 2:28:53
  I love the Packers and and the Chicago Bears when they played
• 2:28:56
  against one another every time, just like I I couldn't stand
• 2:28:59
  watching The Jets play the Patriots because I knew what was
• 2:29:02
  going to happen. A whole nother story.
• 2:29:04
  But anyways, I don't want to get into The Jets and Patriots, but
• 2:29:08
  E sports is now going to be an Olympic sport just so for all
• 2:29:11
  the fans to know that E sports will be a part of the Summer
• 2:29:15
  Olympics I think in 2028, so 20. 28 in LA.
• 2:29:20
  Yeah, I know you're excited. About that, I'm going to be out
• 2:29:22
  there, man. I'm sure if I got a hitchhike
• 2:29:25
  and get Scout some tickets, I'm trying to get in the stadium in
• 2:29:30
  the room. Hey, I know Snoop Dogg.
• 2:29:32
  I know he's going to be a part of Olympics on some level.
• 2:29:33
  So I'm going to hit a Snoop, be like, hey man, again, help my
• 2:29:36
  brother out there. You are.
• 2:29:37
  There you go, Green St. Hooligans.
• 2:29:40
  I see it. I like it.
• 2:29:42
  I like it. Got the got the little salt and
• 2:29:43
  pepper in the beard there. You go, you got to have a little
• 2:29:46
  bit of salt and pepper, you know, like I love salt and
• 2:29:49
  pepper, you know, as the hip hop group and you know.
• 2:29:51
  Awesome group. Yeah, what a man, what a man,
• 2:29:54
  What a man. What a mighty good man.
• 2:29:56
  Anyways, that was for you, my friend.
• 2:29:58
  I'm not a singer, but that was for you.
• 2:30:00
  Anyways, we love you. Amen.
• 2:30:03
  And you to me, you're one of my favorites.
• 2:30:06
  As far as interviewers, I've interviewed thousands of people
• 2:30:09
  over the years. But I think you're just down to
• 2:30:11
  earth. You're straightforward.
• 2:30:13
  You shoot from the hip. And and I love that about you.
• 2:30:15
  And to me, it defines who you are as a player, as a teammate
• 2:30:20
  and as a person. So thank you for joining us.
• 2:30:21
  We'll, we'll be in touch, my friend.
• 2:30:23
  We will I'll be back when and like I said, I love when I the
• 2:30:25
  day I found out Jabba was from Nebraska, I'm like, oh, he's
• 2:30:29
  another dude that people don't think that exists.
• 2:30:32
  Hold on. I told people that.
• 2:30:34
  Hold on. They're like you from Droba.
• 2:30:36
  I'm like, yeah, Droba one it's. Like.
• 2:30:39
  Do I have to go? I'm sorry.
• 2:30:41
  Well, so, so just so you know, Nathan who got you on the show
• 2:30:45
  and yeah, he's great. So we we have a sound board of
• 2:30:48
  Nathan of just some of his great takes.
• 2:30:50
  You already hear some of them. I think you're going to like
• 2:30:52
  him. All right, here you go.
• 2:30:54
  Here we go. Breaking news.
• 2:30:55
  I got to go back off now. Breaking news, Do you want to
• 2:30:59
  jerk me off? Breaking news, I'm putting you
• 2:31:01
  on a leash now. Breaking news.
• 2:31:04
  Smell my ass breaking. News Bagel Almost like each
• 2:31:08
  other. We all love each other.
• 2:31:12
  Oh, we got Jabba too. We got Jabba too.
• 2:31:15
  I had to take, I can't imagine. And I was a baseball player too,
• 2:31:17
  almost. I got, I was getting scouted by
• 2:31:20
  the KC Orioles when I was in a sophomore in high school, played
• 2:31:24
  outfield. So that is amazing.
• 2:31:27
  I can't. I won't be able to get that
• 2:31:28
  picture out of my head if I see once I see Nathan.
• 2:31:31
  He tasted the ball roll. But what the radio roll?
• 2:31:34
  Dude, every every time niffing goes out in public, he wears
• 2:31:38
  this blue blazer. I call him the blue Blazer man.
• 2:31:41
  Yeah, he does. And I tell him all the time.
• 2:31:42
  Just get just have all these athletes sign and and sign the
• 2:31:47
  sign the jacket and then just frame it as something after a
• 2:31:52
  while. I mean, do you wash it?
• 2:31:53
  Does it actually get washed? I would hope so, but sound
• 2:31:58
  probably there's a potential that it doesn't.
• 2:32:00
  I listen, man, he has got the the the weirdest as far as style
• 2:32:05
  I've ever seen. He wears a red polo with
• 2:32:09
  camouflage pants with a blue blazer.
• 2:32:11
  I mean, this guy, he, he needs some help.
• 2:32:14
  I need to help him. I need to take him out.
• 2:32:17
  This makes my pecker. As we all there he is he's
• 2:32:19
  hanging out with there he is. We love the door there he is him
• 2:32:23
  and chador having some of that nice soup.
• 2:32:26
  Anyways, we love you man. Let's stay in touch and yeah,
• 2:32:31
  let's let's get some E sports work in here.
• 2:32:33
  Maybe I maybe I'll play you some Madden.
• 2:32:35
  How about that? Maybe we'll interact and we'll
• 2:32:38
  interact off and maybe I'll play you in Madden.
• 2:32:41
  We'll we'll, we'll hook each other up on that.
• 2:32:43
  How about? That that sounds good.
• 2:32:44
  I know you're not a Giants fan. No, you a Jets guy, but the one
• 2:32:49
  dude over there, that's a dude scataboo.
• 2:32:51
  He's a Madden player and he streams on Twitch.
• 2:32:53
  There you go. Yeah, Scataboo 44 is his twitch
• 2:32:56
  channel, might want to check him out.
• 2:32:57
  E is pure entertainment. Look at that and you got you got
• 2:33:01
  three giant fans. He got poops over here, Tommy
• 2:33:04
  poops, he got the speedster. And then we have Mr. Aaron Fish
• 2:33:07
  Fishman, our executive producer, posting up all those nice
• 2:33:10
  graphics that you've. Been oh, that's a fan.
• 2:33:13
  He did a fan. Hey, look at that fantastic job
• 2:33:15
  gives. You a nice little applause.
• 2:33:17
  Oh, there I am. They got the song.
• 2:33:20
  I mean, I should be the front man, right?
• 2:33:22
  There. There it is.
• 2:33:24
  I I look sexy. You know, Salt doesn't have
• 2:33:26
  anything on me. And Pepper, you know, I love
• 2:33:28
  you, baby. Anyways, thank you all, man.
• 2:33:31
  We, we love you. We'll talk to you soon, buddy.
• 2:33:33
  Sounds good everyone have a good night.
• 2:33:35
  There it is. All right, Nathan.
• 2:33:37
  See you the 1:00 we call Mr. Green, Mr. Green Paper Chaser.
• 2:33:42
  We love them all, man Green. And for all the Green Bay Packer
• 2:33:46
  fans, it like rolls off the tongue, rolls off the tongue,
• 2:33:51
  rolls off the tongue. Aman, Aman, Aman, Aman, Aman.
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  Come on, speedy. Aman, Aman, Aman, Aman, come on,
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  Aman, come on, fit. Come on.
• 2:34:01
  Aman, Aman, Aman, come on. Poops.
• 2:34:03
  I'm going to withhold for now. He tastes himself anyways.
• 2:34:08
  I tried, I tried. I'm just trying to flow with
• 2:34:12
  the, you know, with Aman. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
• 2:34:16
  we call this all righty, then all righty, then all righty.
• 2:34:26
  All righty, all righty then, all righty.
• 2:34:29
  Then we are going to get into the new segment we do with
• 2:34:32
  Errol's literary work on www.worldwidesportsradio.com.
• 2:34:41
  Here's the graphic, the topic of the article we're going to
• 2:34:43
  discuss today. I will read some of the article.
• 2:34:46
  Speedy will then read some comments that Redditers.
• 2:34:50
  And if you are interested in getting your comments read,
• 2:34:52
  please go to Reddit and join the conversation.
• 2:34:56
  Woody Johnson is the topic of the day.
• 2:35:00
  I'm going to share the screen of the website and again,
• 2:35:05
  worldwidesportsradio.com, the rah rah shish, everyone's
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  picking out the website. It's one of the hottest websites
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  out. There it is right over 100
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  hundred and 15,000 views so far for the week for the month.
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  So we're we're going to break 200,000 for the first time.
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  So for all the fans out there, thank you for reading the
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  stories and and checking out our post Go ahead.
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  That's pretty great. That would make us over 200,000
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  of both downloads and then website views each month.
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  So crushing it guys keep keep telling everybody about it.
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  If they would like good entertainment, come check out
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  the website, come check out the show Woody call the plays.
• 2:35:43
  Johnson strikes again. How to pay 12 million and still
• 2:35:48
  micromanage like it's fantasy football.
• 2:35:51
  There he is, Mr. Woody Johnson. Jet fans, gather round.
• 2:35:55
  Bring your coffee, your rage, and maybe a helmet, because this
• 2:35:59
  ride's about to get chaotic. So let's break this down in
• 2:36:02
  plain English with Errol Marx energy.
• 2:36:06
  Aaron Glenn has hired his head coach.
• 2:36:07
  He's ready to build his staff. He's about to bring in Don
• 2:36:10
  Martindale, AKA Wink, AKA Blitz, from the parking lot for a
• 2:36:15
  second meeting and in the NFL interview speak, that's
• 2:36:18
  basically you're in the elevator, where's your office?
• 2:36:22
  Then boom, enter Woody Johnson, cigar in mouth, clipboard in
• 2:36:26
  hand, like he's the defensive coordinator and the boss of the
• 2:36:29
  cheerleaders. Hey, Aaron, I'm paying you 12
• 2:36:32
  million, so I expect you to call the place.
• 2:36:36
  Wait, what? You pay a coach a dozen
• 2:36:37
  $1,000,000 to hire his guys and then you turn around and
• 2:36:40
  micromanage him like you're choosing toppings at a pizza
• 2:36:42
  bar? That's not leadership.
• 2:36:45
  That's fantasy football energy. All right, we're going to start
• 2:36:49
  with this one. Just a more generic one.
• 2:36:51
  This is Dan Stevens, 6515. Aaron Glenn prove this year he
• 2:36:55
  had no clue what he was doing. Thank you Dan for giving us your
• 2:37:00
  own opinion. I I agree that he was up and
• 2:37:02
  down all season long. But think about this, Dan, they
• 2:37:05
  had a chance to win eight games this year.
• 2:37:07
  They choked against the Broncos at the tail end of the game they
• 2:37:10
  chose to get. They choked against the Tampa
• 2:37:12
  Bay Buccaneers, actually choked against the Steelers in the
• 2:37:16
  first game of the season. That right there is 3 games they
• 2:37:19
  could have won, which would have made them six.
• 2:37:22
  It would have gave him six wins. So yes, he didn't look like he
• 2:37:25
  had any clue. A lot of coaches in their first
• 2:37:27
  season did Dan Campbell actually know or even look like he had a
• 2:37:31
  clue in his first year with the Lions.
• 2:37:34
  He didn't, so I agree with you. He looked like he didn't have a
• 2:37:37
  clue. That doesn't mean you throw him
• 2:37:38
  out and give up on him. That's all I'm saying.
• 2:37:40
  All right, the next one. This is all Shawl Parish.
• 2:37:44
  They should blame Aaron. He hasn't made a single decision
• 2:37:45
  that makes sense. He's gaslighted the fans.
• 2:37:47
  I think you were dumb with this shitty attitude, including this
• 2:37:49
  offseason. Thank you all Shall Parrish for
• 2:37:52
  giving us your take. And I agree with you.
• 2:37:54
  I don't like how he speaks to the media and, and how he speaks
• 2:37:57
  to the fan and he doesn't want to give the media any
• 2:37:59
  information that's going on outside of the locker room.
• 2:38:03
  He doesn't want to give you any injury reports.
• 2:38:05
  So I agree with you. I think he needs to be more
• 2:38:07
  upfront with the with the fans and, and, and obviously the
• 2:38:10
  media. You're here in New York.
• 2:38:12
  You should be open to giving the answers.
• 2:38:14
  But I got to give Aaron Glenn a little bit more credit, even
• 2:38:18
  though he looks like he doesn't give enough.
• 2:38:20
  At least he's not doing the things that other coaches have
• 2:38:23
  done, like Robert Sala airing out information to broadcasters
• 2:38:28
  and different personalities offset out of the locker room.
• 2:38:31
  And then how about Mike Petten throwing players in and the
• 2:38:34
  organization under the bus when he was with Rex Ryan?
• 2:38:37
  So at least Aaron Glenn isn't doing that.
• 2:38:39
  But I agree with you, he should be more upfront with the fans.
• 2:38:42
  All right, let's go to one that actually features Robert Sala.
• 2:38:45
  So he kind of agrees with you about Woody Johnson.
• 2:38:47
  This is Pierce, SD 8654. He's the the only owner to ever
• 2:38:51
  get an F on an NFL PA report card, and that's all you need to
• 2:38:53
  know about the way Woody Johnson runs the team.
• 2:38:55
  But hence why Sala and Bowls got another job elsewhere.
• 2:38:58
  All right, so Pierce, thank you for giving us your take.
• 2:39:01
  Here's the thing, I could careless what any magazine or
• 2:39:05
  any report card is giving me as an owner.
• 2:39:08
  He spends money, does he not? He opens up his pockets, does he
• 2:39:11
  not? The only thing that I could take
• 2:39:12
  shots at Woody Johnson now this offseason is the fact that he
• 2:39:16
  would not bring in Wink Martindale because he would
• 2:39:19
  rather pay his coach $12 million.
• 2:39:23
  If you're going to complain about a couple of measly
• 2:39:25
  millions of dollars when you're that you're the owner of the
• 2:39:28
  team, you're a multi billionaire, there's a problem.
• 2:39:30
  But as far as him getting graded an F, I mean, there are a lot of
• 2:39:33
  other organizations and a lot of other owners that you can give
• 2:39:36
  FS to, which they didn't. He gave him an F fine.
• 2:39:39
  Is he a smart guy? He's an intelligent businessman,
• 2:39:42
  not very good football man. So I agree with you, I grade him
• 2:39:46
  an F2. But who cares what I think?
• 2:39:48
  Who cares what any of these magazines or anybody's writing
• 2:39:51
  and giving your take to? So who cares?
• 2:39:53
  All right, this one from what it's time you'll know there's
• 2:39:55
  some organizations where the primary goals to win the Super
• 2:39:57
  Bowl every year. The Jets are not one of those
• 2:39:59
  teams on the ownership and front office level.
• 2:40:01
  All right, So what is it? What?
• 2:40:03
  What is it again? All.
• 2:40:04
  Right, so we got. When is it time?
• 2:40:05
  What? Is it when is when it's time?
• 2:40:07
  You'll know. OK, when it's time, you know,
• 2:40:08
  thank you for your your take on that.
• 2:40:10
  And I agree, maybe The Jets don't know as an organization
• 2:40:13
  what to do. And The Jets have made a lot of
• 2:40:15
  mistakes over the last couple of years with the coaches, Bambi,
• 2:40:18
  obviously, Todd Bowles, Eric Mangini, you name it, they've
• 2:40:22
  made it. They've stuck out on coaches and
• 2:40:24
  they stuck out on players. They struck out on getting rid
• 2:40:27
  of Sam Donald for a second and 4th and he wins the Super Bowl
• 2:40:30
  with another team in Seattle because they should have just
• 2:40:32
  SAT and and really developed him.
• 2:40:34
  Jamal Adams came out on social media to attack The Jets with
• 2:40:37
  that. So you're not wrong about that.
• 2:40:39
  But there are other teams going back to the primary source of
• 2:40:43
  all these other organizations that have completely bombed 1
• 2:40:46
  here in New York, the New York Giants.
• 2:40:47
  Have the Giants done the right thing for their organization
• 2:40:50
  over the last couple of years? Yes, they won in 2007.
• 2:40:53
  Yes, they won in 2011 and knocked off the undefeated
• 2:40:55
  Patriots. But look what they've done in
• 2:40:57
  the last couple of years when it came to coaches and GMs. They
• 2:41:01
  have struck out and the ones guy that they had and Tom Coughlin
• 2:41:04
  they gave up on. So I agree The Jets are an
• 2:41:06
  organization that completely falls flat on their face, but
• 2:41:09
  there are organizations all through the league that are not
• 2:41:12
  successful. All right, last one Haas Mir 12
• 2:41:16
  Jet fancy to stop going to the GameStop buying merchandise and
• 2:41:18
  make him sell. Do the right thing and hopefully
• 2:41:20
  he'll sell the team to someone who will bring them back to
• 2:41:22
  respectability. Haas, Mir, thank you for your
• 2:41:24
  take. Here's what I'm going to say.
• 2:41:26
  Nobody's going to stop buying merchandise.
• 2:41:28
  Nobody's going to spot, stop buying tickets because The Jets
• 2:41:31
  are going to find ways to give you a good deal.
• 2:41:34
  Now that we've seen this over and over and over again, when
• 2:41:37
  teams are really, really bad, they're not going to sell out
• 2:41:40
  and all that other stuff. Here's the thing, we're in New
• 2:41:42
  York. The New York Knicks have been
• 2:41:43
  bad for 2530 years. They sell out Madison Square
• 2:41:46
  Garden. The Rangers have been up and
• 2:41:48
  down. They ever won a championship
• 2:41:49
  since 1994. They still sell out games.
• 2:41:51
  The Islanders over the years, even at the UBS Arena, the UBS
• 2:41:56
  Arena, they sold out more games than they the Brooklyn Nets
• 2:41:59
  because they're James Harden and Kyrie Irving trying to sell
• 2:42:02
  tickets out of the stadium because nobody gave a crap about
• 2:42:05
  the basketball team. What I'm saying is here in New
• 2:42:07
  York, as long as their teams here and as long as their teams
• 2:42:12
  that are competently playing those games and not choking and
• 2:42:16
  I meet choking, not showing up to the games, they're going to
• 2:42:18
  sell out as many tickets as they possibly can.
• 2:42:21
  And if they don't, they'll sell them on StubHub or something
• 2:42:24
  else. And and by the way, everybody's
• 2:42:26
  they're going to buy merch because the jet fans are the
• 2:42:28
  most dedicated fans in I believe in the NFL.
• 2:42:31
  It doesn't matter how bad The Jets have been over the years.
• 2:42:34
  They sell out games, they buy jersey.
• 2:42:36
  Do you know that The Jets have the 10th most sellable jerseys
• 2:42:40
  in all of the NFL? Did you know that I could
• 2:42:42
  believe that their jerseys sell. They're in the top ten in all of
• 2:42:47
  the league when it comes to merch.
• 2:42:48
  Why The Jets stink. What it tells me is the fans are
• 2:42:51
  dedicated behind the behind the players and behind the
• 2:42:55
  organization. So that's never going to happen.
• 2:42:57
  So I agree with you, right? Why not show up to the games?
• 2:43:00
  That's not going to stop anybody buying tickets or even going to
• 2:43:04
  games and buying merch. So thank you to all the the guys
• 2:43:08
  that gave us your takes. We really appreciate you.
• 2:43:10
  We'll be doing this every single week and I'll give you my take
• 2:43:13
  to it. And I listen, I agree with all
• 2:43:15
  the Jet fans. The Jets are not a very smart
• 2:43:17
  organization, but there How many great organizations are there in
• 2:43:21
  the NFL 7 8. I'm going to say you mentioned
• 2:43:25
  in your article there's a couple owners that are worse.
• 2:43:27
  I definitely agree with you on the Browns and the Panthers.
• 2:43:29
  There are a lot of bad owners. I mean, Miami, you're going to
• 2:43:32
  tell me Miami has a great ownership over there?
• 2:43:34
  I mean, come on, guys. I understand that The Jets are
• 2:43:37
  not an organization you want to play for, but the Giants haven't
• 2:43:41
  won since 2011. The Giants have lost as many
• 2:43:43
  games as the New York Jets have in the last 10 to 12 years.
• 2:43:47
  You're going to tell me that John Harbaugh made the right
• 2:43:50
  decision going to the New York Giants over any other team and
• 2:43:53
  other any other organization? No, it was about money.
• 2:43:56
  It's always about money. That's all I'm going to say
• 2:43:58
  about that. And, and listen, if The Jets
• 2:44:01
  fire Aaron Glenn at the end of the season, which they probably
• 2:44:03
  might, they'll bring in John Gruden or somebody else that
• 2:44:07
  will take the reins of this organization and get more power.
• 2:44:10
  And it's all about power in professional sports and money.
• 2:44:13
  That's all that matters. If you get the money, you get
• 2:44:15
  the power. They don't care where the team
• 2:44:18
  is and where the organization is going to lead to.
• 2:44:20
  So that's all I'm going to say about that.
• 2:44:22
  And ladies and gentlemen, that is all I got for.
• 2:44:25
  All righty then. All right, we got call your
• 2:44:28
  shot. I'm not an X.
• 2:44:30
  'S and O. 'S guy, right?
• 2:44:31
  I'm not a tactician. I'm a motivator in the classic
• 2:44:34
  sense of the word. You know Lombardi, Charles
• 2:44:35
  Lindbergh, that nun over in India, like those people call
• 2:44:39
  your shot all righty, then that one over like a Fardon church.
• 2:44:47
  I like that. Well, all righty then, was the
• 2:44:49
  last segment. This one's call your shot.
• 2:44:51
  This one is the one where we get to make some outlandish,
• 2:44:55
  probably really good money in Vegas, if you could get odds on
• 2:44:58
  it type of predictions, but ones that we think are going to
• 2:45:03
  happen for reasons because we are just great sports fans and
• 2:45:07
  pay real close attention. We all got one tonight.
• 2:45:09
  Errol, what's the order? I'm going to go speedy fish me.
• 2:45:14
  Here we go. All right, so fish, I'm going to
• 2:45:16
  bring up a a a team that you brought up and dial it up.
• 2:45:19
  And I'm going to bring up one of the Reno Johnny's betting pits
• 2:45:22
  from last week. Unfortunately, by the way, we
• 2:45:23
  will not have let's parlay tonight.
• 2:45:24
  Neither Johnny nor W can make it tonight.
• 2:45:27
  So but I'm going to bring up one of Johnny's winners from last
• 2:45:29
  week, and that was the Miami Ohio still undefeated.
• 2:45:31
  But I am going to call my shot to say not only do they not
• 2:45:34
  finish undefeated this year, they will lose at least once in
• 2:45:37
  the regular season. They will not even win their
• 2:45:39
  conference. There are two other really good
• 2:45:41
  teams. Akron, who's made the tournament
• 2:45:43
  a lot, and Kent State who's made the tournament a few times too.
• 2:45:45
  I think one of them upsets them in the Maxion championship game
• 2:45:50
  in addition to one of them beating them in the regular
• 2:45:52
  season as well. Two losses heading into the
• 2:45:53
  tournament. No need to wear a Speedo.
• 2:45:58
  Yeah, interesting. One where they have the speedos
• 2:46:01
  like to try to distract the other team That that I'd
• 2:46:05
  probably be annoyed and I guess it would distract me.
• 2:46:08
  Well, my call at your shot is for Speedy, your favorite team,
• 2:46:11
  and I kind of gave you some clues about this.
• 2:46:13
  I was. Curious on what this was?
• 2:46:15
  Let's. Say, I think the Mets are going
• 2:46:18
  to make a trade from somebody for the AL East for their
• 2:46:22
  infield arrow this year. And I kind of zeroed in on the
• 2:46:26
  target because I do not believe Jorge Polanco was the first
• 2:46:29
  baseman. I think it is absolutely
• 2:46:31
  ludicrous to think that at like 35 or like I think he's only 32,
• 2:46:35
  but he's been hurt. A lot, yeah.
• 2:46:37
  Simeon's 30. 5. Right.
• 2:46:39
  Simeon's 35 next to him. It just seems like they have a
• 2:46:43
  lot of guys that play second base and they're going to try
• 2:46:45
  one at first. I think they need to get a guy
• 2:46:48
  who plays some first and can hit some DH for them too.
• 2:46:52
  His name's Andy Diaz. Andy Diaz is on an expiring
• 2:46:55
  contract for the Rays. It's not that expensive.
• 2:46:58
  I want to share the screen and show you his baseball savant
• 2:47:01
  numbers. And listen, baseball savant
• 2:47:04
  Errol, you don't need to know too much.
• 2:47:05
  You just need to know red means good, blue means bad.
• 2:47:08
  So look at all the F in red on his Baseball Savant charts.
• 2:47:13
  When you have a 353 expected weighted on base, that means you
• 2:47:16
  are a damn good player. He's in the 80th percentile of
• 2:47:19
  kind of like power hitters. That's what that means in the
• 2:47:22
  league. A lot of double S, 2025 homers.
• 2:47:25
  But look, he has three seasons. Last three years.
• 2:47:28
  His down year was 281 with a 755 OPS.
• 2:47:32
  That's better than anything the the Mets could hope for from
• 2:47:35
  that position right now. And his Goodyear.
• 2:47:38
  Take a look at what he did IN2023330.
• 2:47:42
  He had 22 homers, 522 slugging, so that means he had something
• 2:47:45
  around 40 double S double that year.
• 2:47:49
  This is a guy that the Mets are destined to give probably too
• 2:47:53
  good of a prospects for a rental, but is going to be on
• 2:47:57
  the team and city. I like that.
• 2:47:58
  I like that one fish. I would hope that would be a
• 2:48:00
  good move over. I definitely like him more than
• 2:48:02
  Polacco. If you remember too, I that bad
• 2:48:04
  year two years ago, he was the one before they trained for
• 2:48:06
  Chisholm that I said the Yankees should have trained him for at
• 2:48:08
  the time. Yeah.
• 2:48:10
  He's a good player. I like.
• 2:48:12
  It all right, I've got 2 predictions.
• 2:48:15
  June 14th is going to be the biggest watched event in UFC
• 2:48:23
  history. So here's my prediction.
• 2:48:26
  This UFC card is going to be the one of the biggest watched UFC
• 2:48:30
  end of all time in professional sports.
• 2:48:33
  Yes, I believe that this card at the White House is going to be
• 2:48:39
  as big as the Super Bowl, as big as as big as as big and watched
• 2:48:45
  as the Super Bowl was this year. When it comes to numbers, one of
• 2:48:49
  the top three, top five of all time.
• 2:48:52
  I believe that's how many people are going to be watching this
• 2:48:55
  UFC White House event in on June 14th and you know who's going to
• 2:49:00
  be making it to this event as he's been training and doing it
• 2:49:04
  really quietly. Conor McGregor.
• 2:49:07
  Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the return of Conor McGregor on this
• 2:49:11
  card is in. It's evitable.
• 2:49:14
  And how do you what would be inevitable?
• 2:49:16
  That's right, inevitable because I believe, I don't know if it's
• 2:49:19
  Chandler, but I believe that his next fight and might might be
• 2:49:24
  his only fight to return will be against Nate Diaz.
• 2:49:28
  The return of Conor McGregor won't be against Chandler, it
• 2:49:32
  will be against Nate Diaz as both guys are training right
• 2:49:36
  now. Nobody knows why.
• 2:49:38
  I believe it's because of this UFC White House card.
• 2:49:42
  June 14th Expect expect Conor McGregor versus Nate Diaz 3 as
• 2:49:49
  they both return to the Octagon. Wow, pick revolving around your
• 2:49:53
  least favorite MMA fighter. I'm just predicting it and I, I
• 2:49:57
  think it's going to happen. I think Conor McGregor will be
• 2:49:59
  back. I think you'll be on this card.
• 2:50:02
  And why not? Nobody wants to see him fight
• 2:50:04
  Chandler. Chandler never wins fights.
• 2:50:06
  But Nate Diaz, I believe Nate Diaz won both fights.
• 2:50:09
  I think he got robbed on the second fight.
• 2:50:11
  And why not have a trio, a trilogy to finish their careers
• 2:50:15
  off in the Octagon in front of the White House, in front of
• 2:50:18
  Donald Trump and all the fans that are going to be watching
• 2:50:21
  it. It will be big for the UFC.
• 2:50:22
  It's going to be enormous and I think it will be on that card.
• 2:50:27
  So that's my prediction and the top five watched event in sports
• 2:50:33
  history. That's my prediction.
• 2:50:35
  That's how big it's going to be, ladies and gentlemen.
• 2:50:37
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, when we come back, No, let's
• 2:50:41
  parlay. But we got tic tac no.
• 2:50:43
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• 2:50:49
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• 2:50:54
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• 2:50:58
  Got a couple more stories and then we'll go through the
• 2:51:00
  basketball scores tonight. When the 2020 sixth MLB season
• 2:51:04
  begins in about 5 weeks, Yankees fans are going to have some
• 2:51:07
  changes in their broadcast as the YES Network has
• 2:51:10
  significantly pared down its roster of voices and
• 2:51:13
  personalities. Yankees will go with David
• 2:51:15
  Cohen, Paul O'Neill and former manager Joe Girardi as analysts
• 2:51:19
  alongside longtime play by play announcer Michael Kay.
• 2:51:22
  Ryan Ruko will work as case filling when he is out and for
• 2:51:25
  other select dates. This removed longtime analysts
• 2:51:28
  and sometimes play by play announcer John Flaherty, who
• 2:51:31
  announced his departure earlier this offseason along with
• 2:51:33
  analysts and former Yankees Todd Frazier and Friend of the Show
• 2:51:37
  Jeff Nelson. Justin Shackle will also be
• 2:51:39
  moved from a play by play fill in role back to the studio role
• 2:51:43
  along with Frazier, while Flaherty, who is often critical
• 2:51:46
  of the Yankees front office in recent seasons, and Nelson will
• 2:51:49
  not be on the broadcast in any capacity.
• 2:51:52
  In last year's unofficial announcer rankings done by Awful
• 2:51:55
  Announcing, the Yankees finished 23rd in broadcast, while the
• 2:51:58
  crosstown Rockville Mets ranked second.
• 2:52:02
  Some injury news out of Milan for the captain of Team Canada
• 2:52:06
  and the Pittsburgh Penguins, Sidney Crosby, who left Team
• 2:52:09
  Canada's quarterfinal win against the Czech Republic in
• 2:52:12
  the second period after getting hit along the boards by Radko,
• 2:52:15
  Goodish and Mark and Nakash and doubling over in pain on the
• 2:52:20
  bench after first. Fears that Crosby, who set the
• 2:52:23
  record for points in Team Canada Olympics history earlier this
• 2:52:26
  tournament, would be out for the semis and finals.
• 2:52:28
  Slash bronze game but reports into ESPN say Crosby has game
• 2:52:32
  the game and may still be available.
• 2:52:34
  We're not going to put anyone in harm's way.
• 2:52:37
  Team Cannon Lightning head coach John Cooper told the media.
• 2:52:39
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• 2:52:42
  more again in 24 hours since Crosby has not been ruled out,
• 2:52:46
  the team has not had to announce a fill in captain as of yet.
• 2:52:49
  But one candidate for that role, Drew Dowdy spoke about the
• 2:52:52
  potential loss of Sid the kid from the Canadian squad.
• 2:52:55
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• 2:52:59
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• 2:53:03
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• 2:53:07
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  And we got two more segments as we call this.
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  Tick tack no. Morris.
• 2:55:24
  Right in the butt. We get the prizes cheap because
• 2:55:29
  they're stolen. No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 2:55:40
  Go ahead, Speedy, what we got. You mentioned some Olympic
• 2:55:42
  hockey during your sports medium.
• 2:55:44
  We'll we'll start with that USS. Next opponent is Slovakia, who
• 2:55:47
  actually was the bronze medalist blowing out Sweden in 2022, the
• 2:55:50
  last time before they allowed NHL players back in.
• 2:55:53
  However, that Slovakia team did have the number one and #2
• 2:55:56
  overall picks in the NHL draft this year, both getting drafted
• 2:55:59
  into the Eastern Conference. You guys get multiple guesses.
• 2:56:01
  Name the two teams that had those players.
• 2:56:04
  You said this year 2000. 22 NHL Draft.
• 2:56:07
  They had the 1st and 2nd overall pick.
• 2:56:10
  Which two teams drafted them? Slovakia.
• 2:56:14
  From a Slovakia Jesus, I have no idea.
• 2:56:19
  Did you say the conference or no?
• 2:56:21
  The East Yep to Eastern Conference.
• 2:56:23
  I'm going to. I'm going to guess.
• 2:56:24
  Yep. What do you got?
• 2:56:25
  The Blue Jackets? Nope.
• 2:56:27
  I get one more. Yep, we got one more.
• 2:56:41
  I'm going to guess again, what do you got, Ottawa?
• 2:56:43
  Nope. The Sharks Eastern.
• 2:56:47
  Conference. They're West.
• 2:56:48
  Oh, I thought you said the. I didn't say I didn't know you
• 2:56:50
  didn't say that. All right.
• 2:56:51
  And give me the devils. Devils is 1.
• 2:56:54
  Yes they were. The number two overall pick was
• 2:56:55
  Simonemic. So who else sucked in the
• 2:56:59
  Eastern Conference a few years ago?
• 2:57:03
  That sucked really bad, Tommy. You want me to help you?
• 2:57:07
  Yeah, you can take one of my picks.
• 2:57:09
  I was going to guess I'm just looking at the teams now, the
• 2:57:11
  Blue Jackets. That was already guessed, I
• 2:57:13
  said. The Blue Jackets.
• 2:57:14
  All right, never mind. So then, yeah, you can just go
• 2:57:15
  ahead and take my picks. I'll say Sabres.
• 2:57:18
  Nope. Worst.
• 2:57:23
  So like, that was the second pick, the first pick who's the
• 2:57:28
  Slovakian first overall pick a few years ago.
• 2:57:30
  Errol the Hurricanes, not the Hurricanes.
• 2:57:34
  These were in the freaking finals.
• 2:57:37
  Hurricanes are always good, so they wouldn't be picking at
• 2:57:39
  2:00. Times, No.
• 2:57:44
  Was this one of the really bad Canadians Years?
• 2:57:48
  Yes. It was.
• 2:57:51
  Oh. Which is funny because it was
• 2:57:53
  actually the year after they made the Phantom Cup in the 56
• 2:57:56
  game season. They fell off badly the next
• 2:57:59
  year. Yeah, you're a Slovaksky it.
• 2:58:01
  Was the first over the winner? Don't ask me how to pronounce
• 2:58:03
  that. I think the Nith man is ready to
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• 2:58:06
  Oh, how wonderful. We've been graced by his
• 2:58:09
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• 2:58:11
  Thanks for for everybody for letting me join your home dog
• 2:58:16
  hang out with you on my blue blazer.
• 2:58:17
  And Fish, he was one of the players I think you mentioned
• 2:58:19
  got a contract of the offseason. Slakovsky, he was right.
• 2:58:23
  Three guys. That's what it was.
• 2:58:25
  You're not naming that. I didn't realize he was picked
• 2:58:29
  though it. Was the number one pick.
• 2:58:30
  It was. It was a question mark at the
• 2:58:31
  time. He was a bigger winger but
• 2:58:32
  usually wingers unless you're like freak.
• 2:58:35
  I don't know if I like fast, don't usually go that quickly.
• 2:58:37
  I don't know if I. All right, Speedy, what's next?
• 2:58:42
  All right, so that will I will shift to some college
• 2:58:43
  basketball. I was talking about Miami of
• 2:58:44
  Ohio in the in my Collier shot. So obviously they're one of the
• 2:58:47
  undefeated teams. The only other undefeated team
• 2:58:50
  from the state of Ohio was 1960 Ohio State, which actually
• 2:58:54
  they're starting forward. One of their starting forwards
• 2:58:56
  end up being a legendary college basketball coach.
• 2:58:59
  Who was this player? Who was this player turned great
• 2:59:02
  coach? Oh man, what school you said?
• 2:59:05
  Say that again to. Me.
• 2:59:05
  So this was 1960 Ohio State. They're starting.
• 2:59:09
  One of their starting forwards became one of the best coaches
• 2:59:12
  in college basketball history. Oh, Fallens, no clue.
• 2:59:19
  I didn't tell you, forwards Ohio State?
• 2:59:28
  Yep. You played for Ohio State in the
• 2:59:29
  6061 season. They lost to the championship
• 2:59:32
  game, so they didn't finish off the full undefeated season, but
• 2:59:34
  they were in the regular season. I'm going to take you guess what
• 2:59:36
  are you at, Pat Riley? Nope.
• 2:59:39
  College coach? Oh, you could rescind that.
• 2:59:41
  College coaches. Oh, college.
• 2:59:42
  Coach legendary college coaches. You could get it I guess though.
• 2:59:45
  College. You're thinking of the famous
• 2:59:47
  Texas Western. College coach.
• 2:59:54
  College coach. Forward 1960s.
• 3:00:00
  That's hard. Man, so 1960, that means the guy
• 3:00:03
  is probably dead, right And he's or like 8080 something.
• 3:00:09
  So it's going to be like someone like old time.
• 3:00:13
  I'm going to say Bobby Knight it.
• 3:00:17
  Is Bobby Knight. Very good.
• 3:00:18
  Wow, I was. Going to say.
• 3:00:19
  That, but I thought it was going to be too easy.
• 3:00:21
  Anyone. Good job, Fish.
• 3:00:23
  I thought. That.
• 3:00:24
  Maybe I, I, I, I heard that he was Ohio State.
• 3:00:28
  I already watched that that. Was not going to get.
• 3:00:31
  That. All right, we're going to go
• 3:00:33
  down here to the corner. Speedy, don't let me sweep you
• 3:00:38
  right now, all. Right, We're going to go back to
• 3:00:39
  Olympic hockey, so in that USA versus Canada gold medal game in
• 3:00:44
  2010 and name two of the three Stanley Cup champions have
• 3:00:47
  scored for Canada in that game. In 2010, yeah.
• 3:00:53
  In 2010, Yep. I'll go Jonathan Tayes.
• 3:00:59
  That is 1. Yep.
• 3:01:01
  Oh, I'm going to sweep. I'm going to do it all by
• 3:01:04
  myself. This is what a perfect game.
• 3:01:06
  Oh my God. I mean, it feels like it's too
• 3:01:10
  obvious. So I I don't want to say it, say
• 3:01:12
  it. He's the all time leading point.
• 3:01:15
  Sidney Crosby. Yep, that was the.
• 3:01:18
  That was the easier one. I didn't know if you would get
• 3:01:20
  the other. Timmy, give me some.
• 3:01:22
  Award give me some bells and whistles for that one look at
• 3:01:24
  that this is this is makes my perfect game as long as she's
• 3:01:30
  using dude watch and taking care of my 2 hole I'm.
• 3:01:32
  Good. Tic Tac.
• 3:01:33
  No. Perfecto, I'll.
• 3:01:36
  Give you a. Wow, breaking news I need.
• 3:01:38
  Britney hope so. Breaking news.
• 3:01:41
  I got to go back off now. Breaking news, Buck Bug.
• 3:01:45
  You can't hear me. You can't hear it amongst all
• 3:01:47
  this. Suck my Indo.
• 3:01:51
  I love Lisa Ann. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
• 3:01:56
  that was Tic Tac. No?
• 3:01:58
  And now we have fish. Now we have Doo Doo.
• 3:02:02
  What's that smell? Pass liquor.
• 3:02:06
  Hold up. What is that smell?
• 3:02:08
  What's right smell? Wow, you don't see that every
• 3:02:15
  day. My rear end is burning.
• 3:02:21
  Wow, wow. That's all I can say.
• 3:02:25
  Oops. Gets no coots.
• 3:02:30
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is the final segment of the
• 3:02:34
  night and it's pretty simple. We're going to tell you a story
• 3:02:37
  and we're going to tell you what it smells like it it could be
• 3:02:40
  any story in sports or it could be something else.
• 3:02:43
  Whatever floats your boat and whatever makes you hard as
• 3:02:47
  somebody gets hard every single night when he does this.
• 3:02:50
  Do you want to jerk me off Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
• 3:02:53
  we're going to go. Nathan, are you doing this?
• 3:02:56
  Are you a part of this? I don't have anything.
• 3:02:58
  All right, so you just sit and listen.
• 3:03:00
  Here we go. I got to go back off now.
• 3:03:03
  Anyways. He's going to probably do that
• 3:03:05
  after in his jail cell anyways. I'll go with fish.
• 3:03:10
  Tommy, Speedy me. Here we go.
• 3:03:13
  Smell my ass. OK, let's get it going on.
• 3:03:16
  What's that smell? The one I've got for you boys
• 3:03:19
  tonight is the smell of oil money.
• 3:03:25
  Yes, the Dallas oil money that has been spent, $1,000,000 worth
• 3:03:31
  for the debuted rookie jersey of Cooper Flag recently at
• 3:03:37
  Sotheby's private auction, $1,000,000 for the jersey he
• 3:03:42
  wore the first game of the season this year.
• 3:03:44
  Put up 10 points and 10 rebounds on October 22nd.
• 3:03:48
  Flag obviously is having a pretty great rookie season.
• 3:03:52
  Maybe not a world beating, but a pretty great rookie season.
• 3:03:55
  But it appears that the collectors market, especially in
• 3:04:00
  the Dallas area, is all over the future prospects of 1 Cooper
• 3:04:05
  Flag that $1 million investment might be just that over some
• 3:04:11
  time as he goes forward. So what does it smell like?
• 3:04:14
  I looked up what crude oil smells like.
• 3:04:17
  It smells like a complex, pungent mixture of gasoline,
• 3:04:21
  kerosene, diesel and sulfur, which is rotten egg smell.
• 3:04:26
  That's I guess. What?
• 3:04:27
  How far it is? The smell of money in Dallas.
• 3:04:31
  I have no sack. All right, Well that's
• 3:04:37
  interesting for my what's that smell?
• 3:04:39
  I'm going to actually not even take the route of sports for the
• 3:04:42
  first time. I'm taking that non route of
• 3:04:50
  sports and we're actually going to go into the realm of movie
• 3:04:52
  business, go with people who have been living under a rock
• 3:04:55
  and don't know who Academy Award winner Nicholas Cage, who that
• 3:05:00
  is. Then you guys are living on a
• 3:05:01
  rock, like I said, but basically Nicholas Cage, for those who
• 3:05:08
  don't know of I was about to say lives under a rock voices,
• 3:05:13
  what's it called? Basically voices a Spiderman in
• 3:05:17
  the in the animated series known as Spiderman into the Spider
• 3:05:20
  verse for those who aren't familiar with that.
• 3:05:22
  It's pretty. Pretty popular animated series
• 3:05:25
  basically on top of that in the show, Nicolas Cage, like I said,
• 3:05:28
  voices the sort of spider noir vigilante spider man in the
• 3:05:31
  show. Well, I don't know who decided
• 3:05:34
  it was a good idea, but we now have Nicolas Cage coming to
• 3:05:37
  Amazon Prime Video with his own spider noir film.
• 3:05:41
  I don't know if it's going to be a film show yet it doesn't look
• 3:05:44
  all that great everybody. I got to be completely honest
• 3:05:46
  with you and considering that he has this movie with Amazon Prime
• 3:05:50
  coming out with. Him portraying John.
• 3:05:52
  Madden. I don't really understand what?
• 3:05:54
  Who wants to see Nicolas Cage best Spider man in the year
• 3:05:57
  2026? It's just that probably as good
• 3:06:00
  of going out and seeing someone like Pete Carroll getting the
• 3:06:03
  job of the Raiders coach. So what does that smell like?
• 3:06:07
  Well, in honor of the Madden movie I just mentioned, it's
• 3:06:09
  going to smell like the most rancid and rotten Turk Duncan
• 3:06:13
  that you can imagine being shoved up the one and only Lisa
• 3:06:18
  Ann. So there we go.
• 3:06:20
  Oh dildo, can I touch it? I love Lisa Ann Cage.
• 3:06:24
  That's great fish. All right, if I said if you
• 3:06:28
  ever, if you don't ever want to get a shot at Lisa ad maybe you
• 3:06:30
  have to be a animated spider man.
• 3:06:33
  Actor, my pinky is bigger than yours and.
• 3:06:35
  It probably is, but I'll stay with college basketball for
• 3:06:38
  mine. This is kind of a duel.
• 3:06:40
  What's that smell? Two different storylines, both
• 3:06:42
  centering around the same person.
• 3:06:43
  A interesting week for UCLA head coach Mick Cronin.
• 3:06:47
  So on Monday he comes out. So Houston head coach Calvin
• 3:06:51
  Sampson was taking shots at their basketball program for not
• 3:06:55
  doing enough with NIL deals. Mick Cronin responds by venmoing
• 3:07:00
  him a dollar and saying, oh, here, here's some a little
• 3:07:03
  charity to help you out with with the funding of that.
• 3:07:06
  So that was Monday and then on Tuesday against Michigan State
• 3:07:10
  when they were getting blown out badly.
• 3:07:12
  Their their center Stephen Jamerson the second did a
• 3:07:15
  flagrant foul and before the referees could even address that
• 3:07:19
  action to whether it was a flagrant one or a flagrant 2, he
• 3:07:22
  ejects him from the game. Doesn't even just bench him,
• 3:07:25
  doesn't even do anything. Just discipline just throws him
• 3:07:26
  out of the game. Tommy is a response.
• 3:07:29
  I guess it's a flagrant too. No need to consult from the
• 3:07:32
  referee. So a double double duty for Mick
• 3:07:34
  Cronin of an eventful. Week for him.
• 3:07:37
  For the UCLA head coach. So what does that smell like?
• 3:07:39
  Well, Lonzo, Lonzo Ball was a UCLA alum and he had a very
• 3:07:43
  dramatic father. Thought he could beat Michael
• 3:07:46
  Jordan. So when he loses 777 and nothing
• 3:07:49
  in their hypothetical pickup game, it smells like lavar
• 3:07:52
  balls, jock strap and tears. Never going raw.
• 3:07:59
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, our final.
• 3:08:02
  What's that smell goes to the Olympics and Elisa Liu, who wins
• 3:08:07
  the gold medal for skating. Women's gold medal 20 year old
• 3:08:12
  Olympic now gold winnow gold medal winner.
• 3:08:16
  A California native after two years removed and unretired.
• 3:08:21
  She wins the gold medal and it's just an amazing story When you
• 3:08:26
  think about somebody that walked away from skating and then comes
• 3:08:29
  back and and it competes. She's a world champion and then
• 3:08:33
  complete competes in an Olympics in Milan, who she was definitely
• 3:08:38
  going to be a medal contender, but wasn't going to wasn't
• 3:08:42
  expected to even win the gold and to pull off this long skate
• 3:08:46
  and do what she did. It's an amazing, amazing story.
• 3:08:49
  So congratulations to Elisa Liu for winning the gold medal for
• 3:08:54
  the women's skate and sensational story.
• 3:08:57
  Retired 20 year old retired, stepped away from skating,
• 3:09:01
  didn't want to do it anymore, came back after an injury and
• 3:09:04
  just blew everybody away in the last two years in the world
• 3:09:07
  champion championships and now the Olympics and wins her first,
• 3:09:10
  maybe not last gold medal. She's only 20 years old.
• 3:09:13
  Maybe she competes in four years.
• 3:09:15
  We'll see what happens. But great story.
• 3:09:17
  She just won herself a lot of money.
• 3:09:20
  Let me tell you, endorsements and all the, the great things
• 3:09:24
  that Olympic winners win over the years, sponsorships.
• 3:09:28
  This girl has a smile on her face.
• 3:09:30
  And by the way, what is that thing between her teeth?
• 3:09:33
  I, I've been wondering, you know, what is that?
• 3:09:35
  I guess it's an earring or some kind, I don't know, but I, I
• 3:09:40
  love everything about her. She, it's a great story.
• 3:09:42
  Congratulations to her and congratulations to all the gold.
• 3:09:46
  Oh, by the way, congratulations to Team USA women's hockey for
• 3:09:50
  winning the gold medal against Team Canada in overtime.
• 3:09:53
  They were down 1 nothing going to the third period.
• 3:09:56
  Take it to overtime and win the gold medal against Team Canada.
• 3:10:00
  So great story as well. Congratulations to Team USA
• 3:10:03
  Hockey as well. Anyways, thank you to Aman Green
• 3:10:08
  and and thank you to Neff for landing another great guest.
• 3:10:11
  So thank you to him. Shout out to Jabba Chamberlain.
• 3:10:14
  We will obviously have Jabba in the very near future.
• 3:10:17
  I know Jabba is taking care of, you know, obviously his family
• 3:10:21
  and spending some time with his son.
• 3:10:22
  So congratulations to Carter on a great pitching, you know,
• 3:10:26
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• 3:10:28
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• 3:10:32
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• 3:10:34
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• 3:11:26
  them fish with the back end stuff.
• 3:11:28
  Tommy poops with the video and audio there.
• 3:11:30
  I'm doing the salt and pepper. You just made my nipples hard.
• 3:11:35
  I don't know if I made his nipples hard, but I it made my
• 3:11:37
  nipples hard looking at that sexy face doing whatever the
• 3:11:40
  hell I was doing. Yeah, we'll be back on Monday.
• 3:11:44
  Who do we have on on Monday? All right, joining the show.
• 3:11:46
  Another one. Thanks to Nathan for getting him
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  at 8:30. Another former Seahawks,
• 3:11:50
  Seahawks, Cowboys, Ravens and Colts former safety Ken Hamlin
• 3:11:53
  will be joining us. He tastes himself.
• 3:11:56
  I doubt he tastes himself. Oh, somebody does.
• 3:11:58
  This makes my pecker. Hard.
• 3:11:59
  Well, there is somebody that probably gets his pecker rammed.
• 3:12:03
  I got to go back off now. The all the all we call the only
• 3:12:08
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• 3:12:12
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• 3:12:17
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