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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, October 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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Speaker 1: now social media's number one Smoked Meats influencer, Jay Peace Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday.
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Speaker 1: It's week six. The Jags and the Lions coming up.
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Speaker 1: We've got Jeff Lagaman coming up, Tony Boselli as well,
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Speaker 1: and then at five o'clock the Doug Moron Show. Here's
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Speaker 1: what's coming up on the program today, Jags Lions preview.
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Speaker 1: The Jags are back home. They haven't been home in
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Speaker 1: a little bit. The only home game in this month.
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Speaker 1: Stretch to back to back road games for the last
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Speaker 1: two weeks and then home this week and then out
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Speaker 1: to l A next week. So I gotta get a
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Speaker 1: little home cooking this week. Gotta get a little offensive
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Speaker 1: balance to according to Jay Gruden, will back that around
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Speaker 1: a little bit. The defense getting healthier. The front line
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Speaker 1: guys were out last week at least are back on
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Speaker 1: the practice field somewhat this week. Tony mall As we
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Speaker 1: set it for thirty and the head coach joining us
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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Radio Network at five o'clock. Jeff Logman,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars analyst, joining us now and here we go. This
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Speaker 1: is a game, Logs that you just need to get
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Speaker 1: this one after the bad taste the last four weeks.
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Speaker 1: It's a young team. They've got to get some confidence
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Speaker 1: back and and finish the game and a winning result
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Speaker 1: is is badly needed at this point, Uh, in a
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Speaker 1: big way. And uh when you when you work so
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Speaker 1: hard and you've got a young football team and you're
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Speaker 1: trying to tell them, hey, look, if we do things
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Speaker 1: the right way and we do this and we do that,
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Speaker 1: then we're gonna win. But then you continually lose. It's
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Speaker 1: hard to get some type of positive reinforcement. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just human nature that you want to have some
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Speaker 1: type of reward for all your hard work. And then
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Speaker 1: once you get to the point where, okay, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden you're real off, you know, five losses, six losses,
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Speaker 1: seven losses, then you know, all of a sudden, the
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Speaker 1: season is lost. And then it's a matter of becoming
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Speaker 1: the old term. Now you've got to be a professional.
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Speaker 1: You know, nobody wants to play football to be a professional.
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Speaker 1: You play football to win and then to advance. And
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Speaker 1: so I mean, obviously it's a very long shot for
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Speaker 1: this football team to kind of bounce back and and
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Speaker 1: get itself involved in the playoff picture. But for a
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Speaker 1: young team, look, you just want to compete. You want
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Speaker 1: to be competitive, and right now they're not being competitive,
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean a few of these games are
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Speaker 1: competitive to a certain point, but then the opponent is
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Speaker 1: running away with it, and and that's hard to stomach sometimes,
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Speaker 1: and it's hard to take, you know. And that's why
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Speaker 1: you have a lot of little sour attitudes, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, scept some. I think the first couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks of the season, things felt a little better. You
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Speaker 1: get better answers, you know, when you talk to the
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Speaker 1: players and they're a little happier, a little bit more chipper,
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Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden after four consecutive JP
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Speaker 1: not so much. That's the way it works. Got to
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Speaker 1: get those winning results in the NFL. Let's get to
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Speaker 1: the injury report today. It just came down from the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars PR staff. The list is not quite as long
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Speaker 1: as it was last week. There's still a lot of
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Speaker 1: names on the list. Guys who were full today though,
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Speaker 1: include Daniel a, quality defensive lineman C. J. Henderson, who
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Speaker 1: was limited yesterday. The cornerback full today. That's good news.
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack same exact thing. Limited yesterday, full today, That's
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Speaker 1: great news for the Jaguars defense. Brandon Lender had a
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Speaker 1: scheduled off day yesterday. He was full today. Now. Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen has been limited both days Wednesday and Thursday coming
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Speaker 1: off his knee issue. By Laviscus Chennault did not practice yesterday,
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Speaker 1: limited today, but he played last week, of course after
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Speaker 1: not much practice at all. And then most notably guys
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Speaker 1: who haven't practiced yet this week, DJ Chark, wide receiver
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Speaker 1: ty In Tyler Eifford, and linebacker Dakota Allen. The Chark
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Speaker 1: win is a little scary there, Logs. That's never good news.
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Speaker 1: In your top receiver has not touched the practice field
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Speaker 1: in two days, well, it's never good. And and it's
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Speaker 1: never good either when he only has three catches for
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Speaker 1: sixteen yards in the previous game. You know. So I
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Speaker 1: remember in the course of the game last week, there
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Speaker 1: was a point where he ended up going off to
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Speaker 1: the sideline and he was kind of limping, and obviously
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Speaker 1: that's where he hurt this ankle, which is what's on
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Speaker 1: the injury report. And uh, look, we've seen how this
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Speaker 1: team played without him, which was the Thursday night game
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Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins, and the team had like no
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Speaker 1: juice offensively. So if he's not able to play against
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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, you can't go back to that, to
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Speaker 1: that type of an offense. And then one thing I
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Speaker 1: said about after that game is that that's absolutely no
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Speaker 1: reason for your offense to have no juice sho. No
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Speaker 1: one guy, with the exception of maybe a quarterback and
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Speaker 1: an offensive system, is that important to an offense to
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Speaker 1: where you you slump that badly in one week because
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Speaker 1: of a wide receiver's absence. You got you got a
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Speaker 1: good wide receiver group, you know, Cailan Cole La Visca,
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Speaker 1: the young guy, Colin Johnson, I mean, all these guys
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Speaker 1: are and Chris Connelly, I mean, these are all legitimate
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Speaker 1: guys that can play. I'm not saying that they're superstars,
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Speaker 1: and they're not Pro Bowl caliber guys by like DJ,
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Speaker 1: but they're good enough to get you by for a
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Speaker 1: period of time. So if DJ is not available, and
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he is or he's not going
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Speaker 1: to be, they need to play better than they did
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Speaker 1: on that Thursday night game. But one more addition to
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Speaker 1: this injury report, Avery Jones limited yesterday with an ankle
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Speaker 1: on a hamstring issue, did not practice today. We'll get
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Speaker 1: to the defense a little bit later in the show Lives,
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Speaker 1: but let's start today. Let's continue on the offensive side
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Speaker 1: of the ball, and the main talking point this week
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Speaker 1: for J. Gruden, the offense of Nato was still trying
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Speaker 1: to find that balance in the offense. Gardner Minshew through
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Speaker 1: the ball forty nine times last week. Let's hear from J. Gruden. Now,
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Speaker 1: you said there's an ideal number of attempts for Gardner Minshew,
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Speaker 1: and it certainly is not forty nine times. We've won
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Speaker 1: one game and he threw the ball twenty times. We're
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Speaker 1: really probably about twenty seven or twenty eight times because
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Speaker 1: he had a couple of scrambles in there and in
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Speaker 1: a couple of sacks. So, uh, that's the ideal number
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Speaker 1: for us. Unfortunately, uh score related, we weren't good enough
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Speaker 1: on offense in the first two or three quarters to
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Speaker 1: keep the game UH close where we didn't have to
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Speaker 1: throw the ball. You know, I feel like against Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: obviously against Miami and then last week against Houston, you
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Speaker 1: take a whole quarter out of your out of the
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Speaker 1: game as far as being able to run the football
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Speaker 1: because you're playing behind, you're playing against the clock, as
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Speaker 1: well as that the other team. That kind of skews
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Speaker 1: the numbers. But in a perfect world, this offense is
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Speaker 1: built on balance, and uh to thirty times is the
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Speaker 1: target number in my opinion, which would have been the numbers,
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Speaker 1: certainly because he had some scrambles and some sacks in
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Speaker 1: that game week one to make it between twenty five
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Speaker 1: and thirty. And you see, um, you know, every time
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Speaker 1: the Jags of loss, he's had to throw the ball
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Speaker 1: forty or more times. That's not the recipe for effective
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Speaker 1: balanced offense logs, especially when you have a running game
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Speaker 1: that has been effective when it's been used. I kind
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Speaker 1: of have I don't want to say an issue with
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Speaker 1: with what Jay grew us saying, but I want to
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Speaker 1: point one thing out, and that you know, you kind
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Speaker 1: of he's kind of looking at the tempo of the
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Speaker 1: game and as to why they didn't have the number
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Speaker 1: of carries in the running game and why they threw
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Speaker 1: the ball so many times. But at the same token
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Speaker 1: in the ball game against the Texans. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: reality is in the first half offensively. You had plenty
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Speaker 1: of opportunities to actually take the lead in the first half,
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Speaker 1: you know. So it's not like the game got out
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Speaker 1: of hand because there was something that was out of
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Speaker 1: your control. I mean, the game was a one possession
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Speaker 1: game all the way until the third quarter, you know so,
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Speaker 1: And and it should have been not even a one
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Speaker 1: possession game. The Jaguar should have taken the lead at
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Speaker 1: some point because towards the end of the first half
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Speaker 1: there you had uh, what was it, third and goal
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Speaker 1: at the three, and then you had to end up
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Speaker 1: trying a little chip shot field goal and that's no good.
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Speaker 1: You get no points out of that. And then you
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Speaker 1: turn around and get an interception to the city Jones
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Speaker 1: had and then you have an opportunity to do something there,
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Speaker 1: and then you come up with no points there. And
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Speaker 1: then you have another opportunity with the fourth and one,
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Speaker 1: and that was right there in the tight red area,
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Speaker 1: and you were not able to do anything with that either.
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Speaker 1: And you know so, so all the way through up
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Speaker 1: until that fourth and one, you had control of the
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Speaker 1: game as far as you could have done whatever you
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Speaker 1: wanted to do. You could throw it, you could you
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Speaker 1: could run it. You could have balance. Uh, you could
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Speaker 1: have You can sat there and fed James Robinson the
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Speaker 1: ball a ton of times. Um I just think it
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Speaker 1: wasn't a very good game for j grum H and
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff. You know, for a couple of different reasons. One,
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Speaker 1: you didn't have balance of what the play call. And
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Speaker 1: even go even if you go all the way back,
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Speaker 1: you you roll the game back and you stop the
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Speaker 1: numbers right there at that fourth and one and you say, okay,
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Speaker 1: let's go back and let's look at what the run
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Speaker 1: pass ratio was. It wasn't very balanced at that point.
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Speaker 1: And I think that that's got to change. I think
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Speaker 1: it's putting too much on a Gardner Minshew's plate, and
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Speaker 1: you need to take a little bit of pressure off
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Speaker 1: of him, because right now your quarterback is not playing
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Speaker 1: well enough to be able to carry the load. That's
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Speaker 1: a fact. And so if he's not playing good enough
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Speaker 1: to carry the load, then you've got to take the
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Speaker 1: load off of me. You've got to find a way
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Speaker 1: to take the load and put it somewhere else. Well
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Speaker 1: here's a here's another thought about it too. Obviously, the
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Speaker 1: Texans entered the game last week the last ranked rushing
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Speaker 1: defense in football. The Lions this week are the thirty
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Speaker 1: second ranked team against the run. But when defenses are
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Speaker 1: struggling and at least statistically against the run, can they
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Speaker 1: scheme things defensively to make teams throw? You know, there's
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Speaker 1: at some point there's so many guys up front and
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Speaker 1: coming down that you have to throw the football, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, is that? Is that another way to look
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Speaker 1: at this too? Yes, I mean that can be the case.
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Speaker 1: And if you go back to the Blake Bortles era,
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Speaker 1: that's what you saw because opponents were likely we don't
10:26
Speaker 1: care about Blake Bortles. I mean, let him beat us
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Speaker 1: if if he can beat us, you know, and we
10:30
Speaker 1: don't deserve to win a football game anyway. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're not seeing that now, jpet where you're saying eight
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Speaker 1: man front, nine man fronts and crowding the line of
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Speaker 1: scrimmage and then they're darying the Jaguars to throw the football.
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Speaker 1: You're you're not seeing that. So uh, I just you know,
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Speaker 1: because when you refer back to where the opponents were ranked,
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Speaker 1: and obviously a lot of times statistics can be kind
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Speaker 1: of torked and and interpreted however you want. To us
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Speaker 1: and to some degree, but when you look at the
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Speaker 1: opponents that the Jaguars have had, and when you go
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Speaker 1: back last week, they were what Houston was dead last, right,
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Speaker 1: go back the week before that, Cincinnati was about dead last,
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Speaker 1: if not dead last, And then you go to the
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Speaker 1: week before that and it was a Miami Dolphins team
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Speaker 1: that was like twenty seven against the run. So I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're talking, you know, a three week stretch here where
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Speaker 1: you're you're facing a bottom five opponent stopping the run,
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Speaker 1: but yet you're not You're not calling In the Miami game,
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Speaker 1: I get it because you know, you kind of fell
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Speaker 1: behind and so the tempo of the game was very different.
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Speaker 1: But the Cincinnati game and the game against the Texans,
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Speaker 1: the tempo was still there that you could have continued
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Speaker 1: to stick with the run, but you you call it
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Speaker 1: a little bit more past. And look, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to get on the point of where you know, you're
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Speaker 1: trying to criticize the offensive, but because I think Jay
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Speaker 1: Gruden is a wonderful coach. I think he's one of
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Speaker 1: the best in the league. But look, offensive coordinators and
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Speaker 1: coaches can have bad games too. I mean that that's
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Speaker 1: allowed to happen, and I think that the Texans game
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Speaker 1: was a bad game for j I think it was
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Speaker 1: a bad game for the coaching staff. Offensively speaking, anyway,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are six in the league and rushing the ball.
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Speaker 1: Going back to statistics again, you can talk them anyway
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Speaker 1: you'd like, as you said, but they're they're pretty good
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Speaker 1: in terms of runs, yards per play, ninth in the league.
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Speaker 1: So when they do run the ball logs, it has
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Speaker 1: been effective. James Robinson is a big part of that.
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Speaker 1: The offensive line has certainly a major role in that
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Speaker 1: in this running game when it is rolling, can be
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Speaker 1: quite effective for the team. For this team, as you
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Speaker 1: see by the yards per play and in the run game. Well,
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Speaker 1: in his past game, I talked a little bit about
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Speaker 1: about third down as an all offense to allow you
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Speaker 1: to continue to run the football. And again, you have
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Speaker 1: those oportunities as an offense because you know you were
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Speaker 1: converting I want to say, with on third down against
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Speaker 1: the Texans dight of sixteen to be exact. So you
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Speaker 1: had the opportunities run the ball for whatever reason you
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Speaker 1: chose not to. And I think the one to the
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Speaker 1: play that you know everybody kind of shook their head
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Speaker 1: at and I think Ethan J. Gruden admitted that it
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Speaker 1: wasn't a very good call, but it was that little
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Speaker 1: wildcat sweet pass that James Robinson was gonna throw it
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Speaker 1: to James of shaughnessy. And if you want to question
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Speaker 1: the call, that that's fine because that's what people do.
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Speaker 1: You you question play calls. And I don't think it
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Speaker 1: was a very good call, But then I also look
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Speaker 1: at the play and I'll go, Okay, if it's called,
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Speaker 1: then let's look at the play and the execution of
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Speaker 1: the play. I thought the execution of the play was poor.
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Speaker 1: I thought that, uh, from from a number standpoint, and
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Speaker 1: that you had about four guys on that play that
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Speaker 1: didn't even come close to executing at the level that
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Speaker 1: it needed to be. From James Robinson to your full back,
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Speaker 1: to James O'Shaughnessy, Uh, to your tight end that was
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Speaker 1: staying in the block. Uh, there's four components on that
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Speaker 1: play that didn't perform anywhere close to where you needed
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Speaker 1: to be at. And for me, if you have a
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Speaker 1: play like that, it's gotta be you gotta be rolling downhill.
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Speaker 1: When I say rolling downhill, you're you've got the opponent
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Speaker 1: on the heels, you've got maybe a a lead in
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Speaker 1: the ballgame. James Robinson has been not a dominant player,
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Speaker 1: but has been an impact player in the game. And
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Speaker 1: at that point, James Robinson was a little bit of
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Speaker 1: an afterthought. So all of a sudden to expect the
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Speaker 1: defense to go, oh, no, James Robinson in a wildcat sweep.
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Speaker 1: We've got to come up and stop him because he's
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Speaker 1: been gash at us. Wasn't happening, so uh And obviously
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Speaker 1: that wasn't play calling at its best in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: But if it worked, I would say that's a great
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Speaker 1: play call. That's right, Yeah, that's right. And Drewden did
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Speaker 1: admit that this week that you know, it's probably a
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Speaker 1: better third down play that gives you the fourth down
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Speaker 1: cushion there. But hindsight, as you said, is let's touch
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Speaker 1: on this line. I don't know if I was a
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Speaker 1: good third down play either, JP, because you know what
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Speaker 1: you're running on third down, and if you don't make
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Speaker 1: it there, then you try to run it again on fourth. Now,
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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's that's one of those plays where
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Speaker 1: you run when you've got a lead, you know, and
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Speaker 1: you're just you're just dog piling the opponent on the
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Speaker 1: ground and James Robinson is kicking everybody's rear end. That's
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Speaker 1: I mean, for me, that's the kind of call that
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Speaker 1: I would like to say that situation for where you're
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Speaker 1: trying to just slam the door shut and and make it,
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Speaker 1: you know, a three possession game or you know, something
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Speaker 1: of that nature. But in that situation where you're where
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Speaker 1: you're behind and you're just trying to get the lead
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Speaker 1: and uh no, or we go up to score something
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Speaker 1: like that. Let's get to the Lions defense quickly. Here logs.
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Speaker 1: You go through the depth chart and it's not like
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Speaker 1: there are household names jumping off the page at you
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Speaker 1: for the Lions defense, Jeff, that went out to me
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Speaker 1: obviously the rookie corner. Who are the householding who are
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Speaker 1: the names of this Lions defense to look out for?
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Speaker 1: Chris Spielman, Robert Porche, Darius Slay. Uh. I'm joking, because
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right. I mean, it's this is a
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Speaker 1: Lions defense that that doesn't have a lot of names,
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Speaker 1: but it's got a few names now that are pretty good.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of those names you probably would recognize
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Speaker 1: have been a new England Patriots uniform and with the
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions uniform, you're probably not recognizing them because Doron
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Speaker 1: Harmon is the safety as a former Patriot. You've got
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Speaker 1: Jamie Collins who's a former Patriot. You've got uh, Danny
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Speaker 1: Shelton who played for the Patriots, Trey Flowers who played
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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. I mean, so if they were wearing
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Speaker 1: Patriot uniforms, you'd be one, I know that guy. But
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Speaker 1: they're in Detroit and not many people know that they
17:15
Speaker 1: made the move. And obviously Matt Patricia having the New
17:18
Speaker 1: England connection, that's why you see a lot of those
17:20
Speaker 1: guys who are there. But yeah, I mean to answer
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Speaker 1: your question, it's not a lot of household names. And
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Speaker 1: the reason why is because Detroit hasn't won a lot
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Speaker 1: of football games. It's no different than if you ask
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Speaker 1: somebody in Kansas City or somebody in Detroit about, hey,
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Speaker 1: do you know who plays for the Jaguars defense, and
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Speaker 1: it's probably go, yeah, yeah, yeah, plays Campbell, Yanniken Gockway,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Jalen Ramsey. But I mean it's not the case.
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Speaker 1: You know, so when when you play teams and they
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Speaker 1: win and they're good and they're on TV, it's a
17:57
Speaker 1: little bit easier to know their names. And right now
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Speaker 1: the Detroit lines haven't been very good under Matt Patricia
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Speaker 1: and so we haven't seen him a lot. We haven't
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Speaker 1: had the experience of facing him much, so you really
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Speaker 1: don't know him. Let's come back well. Founder Fence this
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Speaker 1: week gets Matt Stafford and Adrian Peterson on the other
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. Also for thirty Tony was Sully
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Speaker 1: You know, when we flipped the tape on on Monday afternoon,
22:04
Speaker 1: I was like, Damn, he's still running like he did
22:06
Speaker 1: when he was twenty two years old. Um. You know,
22:09
Speaker 1: he still has his unbelievable jump cut. You know, I
22:12
Speaker 1: think it was uh nine years ago we played him
22:14
Speaker 1: in Seattle, and I think he's still running somewhere in Mexico. Um. So, Uh,
22:18
Speaker 1: he has the ability to make people miss and he
22:21
Speaker 1: runs extremely, extremely hard and uh you see him play
22:25
Speaker 1: behind his pads. It's gonna be very important. He really
22:27
Speaker 1: likes to be able to get the ball to bounce.
22:29
Speaker 1: So I think our guys on the perimeter and the
22:31
Speaker 1: edges have to be able to tackle well. But it's
22:33
Speaker 1: a credit to him how he's taken care of his body. Um,
22:36
Speaker 1: you know, through all the years and the pounding that
22:38
Speaker 1: he's taken. You gotta give a lot of credit to man.
22:41
Speaker 1: There's a lot of uh respect for him in our
22:44
Speaker 1: building and obviously as from us as a coaching staff.
22:49
Speaker 1: Todd Wash Jaguars defensive coordinator, of course, discussing Adrian Peterson,
22:54
Speaker 1: the veteran running back and the future Hall of Famer
22:57
Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hours, PI Shadrick, Jeff Logerman, Tony
23:01
Speaker 1: Boselli coming up in just a little bit here. Um.
23:05
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you you look at this Lions offense
23:09
Speaker 1: and Matthew Staffords the first guy you look too. He's
23:11
Speaker 1: been there for a long time now as the franchise
23:14
Speaker 1: quarterback that they've added. Adrian Peterson in the running game
23:17
Speaker 1: this year, he is fifth on the all time rushing
23:20
Speaker 1: yardage list in the National Football League, about eight hundred
23:23
Speaker 1: yards shy or so. Barry Sanders, talking to Fred Taylor today,
23:28
Speaker 1: logs that kind of Fred said that, yeah, that's that's
23:32
Speaker 1: probably really what he's going after because the rest of
23:35
Speaker 1: the guys on the list are a little too far
23:37
Speaker 1: out there. But once he gets to Barry Sanders, then
23:40
Speaker 1: you might see him at some point maybe back off
23:43
Speaker 1: the accelerator a little bit. He scored three times all
23:46
Speaker 1: time against the Jags. Two of those came in the
23:49
Speaker 1: first game of the twenty twelve season in Minneapolis. That
23:52
Speaker 1: was his first game coming off his knee injury, and
23:56
Speaker 1: he scored twice that day. And that will turn out
23:58
Speaker 1: to be a great football game in Minneapolis of the
24:01
Speaker 1: old Metro Dome that day. I'm curious how much juice
24:05
Speaker 1: he really has left in the tanket sounds like wash feels,
24:07
Speaker 1: you know, it's a similar feel. I mean, he's not
24:09
Speaker 1: as huge as Derrick Henry, but Derrick Henry likes to
24:13
Speaker 1: bounce it outside and go against little guys on the
24:16
Speaker 1: outside too. Yeah, a little different though. I mean, did
24:21
Speaker 1: you see the Derrick Henry stiff arm again on Tuesday night?
24:26
Speaker 1: I mean, Adrian Peterson, not trying to criticize him or
24:32
Speaker 1: anything of that nature, j V, but he's never had
24:34
Speaker 1: a stiff arm like that. But he's a bit of
24:37
Speaker 1: great back. And and I will say that I don't
24:42
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with your fred thinking that trying
24:46
Speaker 1: to get to Barry Sanders is kind of what he's
24:48
Speaker 1: shooting for I think he's going for Emma. I mean
24:51
Speaker 1: that's three thousand, eight nine four yards away, and Adrian
24:57
Speaker 1: Peterson needs the money and he still feels like he
25:01
Speaker 1: can play, So why not go for it. Uh, they're
25:05
Speaker 1: gonna have to kick him out of the out of
25:07
Speaker 1: the National Football League. I mean that's just kind of
25:09
Speaker 1: his attitude. And he's been a great back. He've been
25:12
Speaker 1: a powerful back. And I remember when he was drafted
25:15
Speaker 1: by the Minnesota Vikings. I've got a lot of family
25:18
Speaker 1: on my mom's side that reside up there in the
25:20
Speaker 1: Dakotas area, and of course they're all Minnesota Vikings fans,
25:23
Speaker 1: and and so my cousin Dan calls me up and
25:26
Speaker 1: he says, you know, what do you think about this guy,
25:28
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson? I said, I think that the Vikings got
25:31
Speaker 1: the steal of the draft, you know, because he was
25:33
Speaker 1: a running back and he kind of fell a little bit.
25:36
Speaker 1: And he's been nothing short of fantastic. And you know,
25:39
Speaker 1: that's the reason why that he is in Detroit. Daryl Bevil,
25:43
Speaker 1: who is his first offensive coordinator with the Minnesota Vikings,
25:48
Speaker 1: is the offensive coordinator with the Detroit Lions now. So
25:51
Speaker 1: there's some filming Uh, they're familiar with each other, and
25:54
Speaker 1: Daryn Belle Bevil still believes in Adrian Peterson. He's still
25:57
Speaker 1: a good back. Now. The one thing that that Adrian
26:00
Speaker 1: Peterson does not do well that kind of I don't
26:04
Speaker 1: want to say make your offense predictable, but it certainly
26:06
Speaker 1: changes the way you look at it is that when
26:08
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is on the field, he's not a very
26:11
Speaker 1: good receiver. He hasn't been great in protection. Uh in
26:15
Speaker 1: his past. I think he's gotten better at it. And
26:18
Speaker 1: then he's got hands of stone, So that's never been
26:22
Speaker 1: his strong suit. You know, when he is on the field,
26:24
Speaker 1: you know it's either gonna be runner play action, and
26:27
Speaker 1: I think from a defensive coordinator standpoint, you don't sit
26:29
Speaker 1: there and he doesn't give you sleepless nights as a
26:32
Speaker 1: receiver threat out of the backfield. Matthew Stafford has twice
26:39
Speaker 1: played the Jacksonville Jaguars in his career. He's come away
26:42
Speaker 1: with two winning results, but he has zero touchdown passes,
26:47
Speaker 1: zero interceptions. The Jaguars in those games have turned the
26:51
Speaker 1: ball over to the Lions a few times, which helped
26:54
Speaker 1: the Lions get those two victories, but well over forty
26:58
Speaker 1: thousand yards in his career. He is the franchise quarterback
27:02
Speaker 1: in Detroit's and you know, it's what kind of play
27:06
Speaker 1: has he put out there this year? Logs uh not great. Uh.
27:12
Speaker 1: Completion percentage just a little bit over um last year.
27:19
Speaker 1: Prior to his back injury, he was having a career year.
27:23
Speaker 1: He was dominant and had the back injury. And so
27:28
Speaker 1: over the last two weeks, because the lines are coming
27:31
Speaker 1: off of a bye week, so last weekend, this week,
27:34
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of conversation, a lot of questionings
27:37
Speaker 1: from the press up in Detroit, and namely to the
27:40
Speaker 1: head coach, Matt Patrician, also the offensive coordinator Darren Bebel,
27:44
Speaker 1: about is there something wrong with Matt Stafford? And and
27:48
Speaker 1: Daryl Bebel actually came out and talked about Matt Stafford's
27:52
Speaker 1: feet and in fact that we're gonna look at the
27:56
Speaker 1: feet tonight on Jaguars All Access in the film room,
27:59
Speaker 1: because when you watch the film, a quarterback just like
28:02
Speaker 1: a baseball player when you throw a baseball, and a
28:05
Speaker 1: quarterback when you throw a football, not to oversimplify things,
28:08
Speaker 1: but can be kind of semplified that way. And then
28:11
Speaker 1: if your feet aren't in position, it's very difficult to
28:14
Speaker 1: make certain throws and in some cases to make any throws.
28:18
Speaker 1: And when you watch Matt Stafford, there's two plays that
28:21
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you tonight and JP you sit there
28:23
Speaker 1: and you watch him, and you go one of them.
28:25
Speaker 1: He's got a four man rush and then when he
28:27
Speaker 1: when he drops, he's in shotgun. He gets the snap
28:29
Speaker 1: and he take a couple of steps back and you
28:32
Speaker 1: would think that, okay, no pressure, fore man rush, confidence
28:35
Speaker 1: in the offensive line, feet would be calmed. His feet
28:38
Speaker 1: looked like he was having a couple cover zero all
28:42
Speaker 1: out blitz coming in his face. He was panicked, and
28:46
Speaker 1: he ends up throwing an interception on a pass that
28:49
Speaker 1: was intended for t. J. Hockenson in the tight red area,
28:53
Speaker 1: and it was it was terrible, And it all started
28:55
Speaker 1: with the feet. And the mind has to be calm
28:58
Speaker 1: a lot of times for the heat to end up
29:00
Speaker 1: being calm. Another throw that he had later on should
29:02
Speaker 1: have been intercepted. He's got an impending hit and so
29:06
Speaker 1: quarterback's got to have a little courage and stand in
29:09
Speaker 1: there and throw off the back foot, just like a
29:10
Speaker 1: picture pushing off of the mound. That's what he drives
29:13
Speaker 1: off of and gets his velocity and the power to
29:16
Speaker 1: make a throw, and instead he kind of just throws
29:18
Speaker 1: it up. And when he throws it up, it's just
29:20
Speaker 1: literally a wounded duck in the air. And the only
29:22
Speaker 1: reason the New Orleans Saints didn't intercept it was just
29:25
Speaker 1: because they had one guy that didn't even see the ball,
29:28
Speaker 1: that was playing man coverage and there was a safety
29:30
Speaker 1: playing from the inside that it was just too far
29:32
Speaker 1: for him to make it. But if there was a
29:34
Speaker 1: split safety, it would have been an interception, and the
29:36
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints were headed down the field for a touchdown.
29:39
Speaker 1: So Matt Stafford is not playing great. His feet have
29:42
Speaker 1: been unsettled, and you got to try to keep it
29:45
Speaker 1: that way. And I know that that's a lot to
29:46
Speaker 1: ask a Jaguars defense that hasn't rushed the pass or
29:49
Speaker 1: affected the quarterback much, but you've got to find a
29:51
Speaker 1: way to affect him because if you don't, Matt Stafford
29:55
Speaker 1: can can light you up. He's capable of making some
29:58
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30:00
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30:03
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30:07
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30:09
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30:12
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30:14
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30:17
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34:53
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34:55
Speaker 1: We want to continue this defensive conversation Logs and now
34:58
Speaker 1: we're having we're talking about the Lions, guys, but let's
35:02
Speaker 1: shift it over to the Jaguars. Now, there was a
35:04
Speaker 1: trade this week. The Jaguars traded sixth round pick for
35:09
Speaker 1: Kamala Korea, linebacker of the Titans, and the Titans seventh
35:15
Speaker 1: round picker is coming back first off Logs. What kind
35:18
Speaker 1: of deal is this? What kind of players? Karea and
35:22
Speaker 1: Cassius Marsh was cut today? But let me start with
35:27
Speaker 1: with the cut Cassius Marsh. I think almost every week
35:32
Speaker 1: you'd watch him, you'd see him be out of position
35:34
Speaker 1: and have a mental error. And if you're gonna make
35:37
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35:41
Speaker 1: a great player, you're not gonna last long. And I
35:44
Speaker 1: think that's why they decided to try to find out
35:47
Speaker 1: what they could about Korea and kareas. What kind of
35:51
Speaker 1: a player is he? He's a He's a try hard
35:54
Speaker 1: type of guy, plays hard, plays physical. Is uh, probably
36:00
Speaker 1: not super athletic and not super fast, but he's gonna
36:04
Speaker 1: give you everything he has, and he's gonna be consistent,
36:06
Speaker 1: and right now, you'll take consistent and somebody that's not
36:10
Speaker 1: gonna make a whole lot of mistakes. And he does
36:11
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of pass rush. Uh. He's
36:15
Speaker 1: not a big time pass rusher, but he does give
36:17
Speaker 1: you a little bit. Yeah, he is a you know,
36:23
Speaker 1: he's a UM. He'll be consistent, but not impactful. If that,
36:28
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not gonna change the game. Um, where
36:32
Speaker 1: all of a sudden like wow, I mean that's what
36:34
Speaker 1: you'd expect. I mean, he gave up a six rounder,
36:36
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36:40
Speaker 1: he slid. I mean, you know he I think Police
36:42
Speaker 1: started his career with the Saints and then went to Titans. Um,
36:46
Speaker 1: he's a guy who you know, I think he's probably
36:49
Speaker 1: he's more physical than marsh Um. I don't think he's
36:52
Speaker 1: as athletic as marsh Um. He's a average pass rusher. Um,
36:57
Speaker 1: but I mean he's a solid player. I mean I
36:59
Speaker 1: think it's an upgrade. I wish that mar you know,
37:06
Speaker 1: J P an Tony, I wish that marsh just didn't
37:08
Speaker 1: have the mental errors because I mean he's got he's
37:11
Speaker 1: got some physical attributes. I mean he he's got the
37:14
Speaker 1: flexibility to play special teams. He's athletic and fast enough
37:18
Speaker 1: to do that. He's athletic and fast enough to play linebacker.
37:22
Speaker 1: He actually has some decent pass rush technique. But if
37:27
Speaker 1: if you're I'm not sure of what you're doing, and
37:30
Speaker 1: you're gonna have mental airs and it's you know, it's
37:33
Speaker 1: hard to keep a guy in that capacity. And you know,
37:36
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37:39
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37:41
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37:43
Speaker 1: leading up to the Titans, and he didn't see the
37:45
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37:48
Speaker 1: bit of film. He's not moving quite as well, is
37:53
Speaker 1: what I've seen a move in the past. And maybe
37:55
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37:57
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37:59
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38:02
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38:05
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38:09
Speaker 1: can he be athletic enough and and and good enough
38:14
Speaker 1: to give you a boost. Oh, Jeff, you bring up
38:17
Speaker 1: a great point. I think about it. He's coming from
38:20
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38:22
Speaker 1: good on defense. They played better on Tuesday night. Before that,
38:26
Speaker 1: they were not good at all, and he couldn't get
38:28
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38:33
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38:36
Speaker 1: touch on a couple of guys who stood in last
38:39
Speaker 1: week in starting roles and performed pretty well. And I'm
38:43
Speaker 1: curious what kind of roles they will have moving forward
38:46
Speaker 1: after what they did last week in Houston. Sidney Jones
38:50
Speaker 1: obviously one of those, the cornerback who played very well
38:53
Speaker 1: obviously in the game in Houston, and Dwan Smoot who
38:56
Speaker 1: had a handful of quarterback hits in that game and
38:59
Speaker 1: the only Jaguar's sack. What kind of role do you
39:03
Speaker 1: see from these guys, Tony, we'll start with your lives.
39:05
Speaker 1: We'll get to you next. Well, I think Sidney Jones
39:08
Speaker 1: is gonna come in and nickel. They'll move Trey Herndon
39:10
Speaker 1: into that nickel position and Sydney Jones will be the
39:12
Speaker 1: other outside corner. I mean, I assume you know c
39:15
Speaker 1: j Henderson will be the starter again. He practiced full
39:17
Speaker 1: participation today. Um, and so I think you'll, you know,
39:22
Speaker 1: in regular personnel first and second down, you'll have C. J.
39:25
Speaker 1: Henderson Tray Herndon out there getting into the nickel, which
39:28
Speaker 1: is about the snaps. I think Sydney Jones will be
39:32
Speaker 1: the other outside corner. As far as Wayne, I think
39:37
Speaker 1: he's he's a rotational player. He'll continue to be a
39:39
Speaker 1: rotational player. Yeah. And for for me, uh, watching Sydney Jones,
39:47
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyway you can't start him in
39:51
Speaker 1: some capacity. This week. He just played too well. I mean,
39:55
Speaker 1: somebody tell me the last time a defensive back had
39:58
Speaker 1: an interception and out his hands on another one that
40:01
Speaker 1: was nearly intercepted, and then oh, by the way, he
40:03
Speaker 1: had about three past defense and was making contested catches
40:08
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver. I haven't seen that at Herndon.
40:12
Speaker 1: You haven't haven't seen that out of your first round
40:14
Speaker 1: draft pick rookie, Well, Jeff, for me, yeah, I know,
40:22
Speaker 1: but that was week one, Tony. This is now where
40:24
Speaker 1: when week five. You know, I'm not saying that you
40:27
Speaker 1: start him over your rookie. I'm just saying that you
40:29
Speaker 1: have to have him on the field in some capacity
40:32
Speaker 1: that that means a reduced role for somebody else. Then
40:36
Speaker 1: that means a reduced role for somebody else. I mean
40:40
Speaker 1: game days about performance. And I think if you if
40:42
Speaker 1: you don't play a guy like him and give him
40:45
Speaker 1: more reps and more opportunities or a starting role, what
40:48
Speaker 1: are you telling your team, H Well, we're gonna have
40:50
Speaker 1: a guy that plays really well, but he doesn't deserve
40:52
Speaker 1: an opportunity start. I think that's that's crazy. I think
40:55
Speaker 1: the same thing applies for Smooth, even when you get
40:58
Speaker 1: Josh Allen back and you've kind of had uh Calevan
41:02
Speaker 1: Chase on and Josh Allen on the field the same time.
41:05
Speaker 1: I think Smoot has earned the right after that last game,
41:08
Speaker 1: and he's got to continue to earn that right week
41:10
Speaker 1: after week. But he's earned the right to get more
41:12
Speaker 1: playtime and he may end up having in any way,
41:15
Speaker 1: you know, depending upon Josh Allen's health. But even if
41:19
Speaker 1: those guys weren't a question mark or didn't have any
41:21
Speaker 1: health issues, he deserves the right to play more. Yeah,
41:25
Speaker 1: but Jeff, I'm not. I mean, they both played well
41:27
Speaker 1: as one game, and I mean you asked the question,
41:30
Speaker 1: when's the last time a defensive back did that? Well,
41:32
Speaker 1: a week one, cjia Anderson did so. Um, but if
41:35
Speaker 1: you and I just don't see, I mean CJ. Henderson
41:38
Speaker 1: is gonna start unless he's hurt, and he's not, I
41:41
Speaker 1: cannot imagine I'm not starting him. Um. Now you're saying
41:45
Speaker 1: you would bench Trey Herndon in first and second down
41:47
Speaker 1: and put City Jones out there. Um, I guess possibly
41:51
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, the reality is you're in Nichols
41:53
Speaker 1: six times or whether um he's the actual official starter
41:57
Speaker 1: or not, he's gonna get a ton of reps and
41:59
Speaker 1: he's gonna play a lot out there. Um. As far
42:01
Speaker 1: as Smoot, I mean, there's no no chance. There's no
42:04
Speaker 1: chance he's starting ahead of Josh Allen. Um. The reality
42:07
Speaker 1: is that Josh Allen you're starting defensive end. And then
42:09
Speaker 1: the question is opposite him, is there gonna be Godstas
42:12
Speaker 1: or Smoot um as the starter. I'm fine with Smoot
42:15
Speaker 1: being the starter. I think he's probably performed better than Gostis. Um.
42:19
Speaker 1: But they're there. It's they're both rotational players. To me,
42:22
Speaker 1: they're gonna split time. And you know, and you're gonna
42:24
Speaker 1: see probably equal amount of reps by the end of
42:26
Speaker 1: the game with cabal On chase On, you know, coming
42:28
Speaker 1: on third down, some pass rush situations and being Josh
42:31
Speaker 1: Allen's backup. I mean, that's my guess. I mean, but
42:34
Speaker 1: you might be right. Maybe they make wholesale changes based
42:36
Speaker 1: on one game. No, I'm not talking about Boston having
42:41
Speaker 1: Smoot play over Josh Allen. That that's insanity, but I
42:44
Speaker 1: mean on the opposite side, for godsess, And then when
42:47
Speaker 1: you get to a subsituation, when you know, if you
42:51
Speaker 1: if you have let's say you're playing a bigger Nickel
42:55
Speaker 1: and you're looking for a defensive en. I think right
42:57
Speaker 1: now Smoot is giving you more as a pass rusher,
43:01
Speaker 1: more as a run defender than Calevan chas On. So
43:05
Speaker 1: I think that you know, when Josh is back, Josh
43:07
Speaker 1: is obviously out on the field, but then you would
43:10
Speaker 1: have to work Calevan into the rotation, but Smooth would
43:14
Speaker 1: be the primary guy. That's fair. I mean, I I
43:17
Speaker 1: can't argue. I mean, Cablon is not giving you a
43:18
Speaker 1: lot in the run game, especially pass rushing. He's athletic,
43:21
Speaker 1: but he's not in my opinion, He's still kind of
43:24
Speaker 1: honing his craft to be a natural pass rusher. So
43:27
Speaker 1: I think that's why he's very wrong. But I'll be
43:32
Speaker 1: interested to your point. I mean, Sidney Jones played really well.
43:34
Speaker 1: Um his length, he has more speed than Trey Herndon. Um,
43:38
Speaker 1: do they bench Trey Herdon and just make him the
43:40
Speaker 1: full time nickel and start Sydney outside? My guesses? No,
43:44
Speaker 1: But you know you've lost four in a row, giving
43:47
Speaker 1: up over thirty at least thirty or more points each
43:50
Speaker 1: of those games. You know why not? Well? Absolutely? And
44:00
Speaker 1: one thing I like it's about the way that Sydney
44:02
Speaker 1: Jones played is that he got his hands on receivers.
44:05
Speaker 1: And you've we've heard Toddwah talk about that for a
44:08
Speaker 1: couple of weeks now, about how he wanted his defensive
44:10
Speaker 1: backs to get his hand their hands on people, obviously
44:13
Speaker 1: in a legal fashion, and the number of catches that
44:16
Speaker 1: even if the receiver made a catch over Sydney, he
44:20
Speaker 1: was right there to to to contest the catch. And
44:24
Speaker 1: haven't seen that a ton from from Trey Herndon. And
44:27
Speaker 1: I like Trey Herndon. I mean I thought Trey Herndon
44:30
Speaker 1: as a nickel, trust me as a nickel I thought
44:33
Speaker 1: Trey Hernon an Tony. You remember the game, how physical
44:36
Speaker 1: he was coming up into the line of scrimmage, and
44:39
Speaker 1: I mean, great job, great job. So I just think
44:41
Speaker 1: maybe that, you know, you kind of maybe flip the
44:44
Speaker 1: rolls a little bit and let Tray be that nickel
44:46
Speaker 1: because DJ still on I R is gonna be out
44:49
Speaker 1: for a while. And let Sydney get more reps on
44:52
Speaker 1: at the corner spot. And and if that means starting Sydney,
44:55
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. If it means rotating Sydney in
44:59
Speaker 1: more to less than the reps that Trey Herden gets
45:03
Speaker 1: at that corner position, whatever it takes, you know, just
45:05
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45:11
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45:14
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45:16
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45:20
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49:09
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49:13
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49:17
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49:42
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49:59
Speaker 1: the office Tony to wrap the show here. The Jaguars,
50:02
Speaker 1: if if John Brown has an attempt this week for
50:05
Speaker 1: an extra point or a field goal, will be the
50:07
Speaker 1: first team in NFL history with five kickers to attempt
50:11
Speaker 1: a field goal or extra point in a five week stretch.
50:13
Speaker 1: It's never happened in league history, and for the Elias
50:17
Speaker 1: Sports Data Group, there are only four teams since the
50:20
Speaker 1: seventy merger that had five different players attempt a field
50:24
Speaker 1: goal or an extra point in a single season. The
50:26
Speaker 1: Jaguars will become the fifth all time. This is uncharted
50:31
Speaker 1: territory in the kicking game. Guys. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken,
50:37
Speaker 1: it'll be John Brown's first kick ever in a game. Um. Correct,
50:43
Speaker 1: He's never He didn't kick in high school. He played soccer,
50:45
Speaker 1: which a very good soccer player walked on it Louisville,
50:49
Speaker 1: I believe, after playing soccer Kentucky or or something. Um,
50:54
Speaker 1: and never never attempted a kick. And now he's gonna
50:58
Speaker 1: be rolled out an NFL field on a Sunday in
51:02
Speaker 1: a game and he might have to pick the winning
51:04
Speaker 1: field goal. Uh, and it might be his first kick ever.
51:09
Speaker 1: People go, I mean, he might have a couple of
51:10
Speaker 1: p A T s, but it's it's faster. I mean,
51:12
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. You see, you know what,
51:14
Speaker 1: It's happened in the NFL every once in a while
51:16
Speaker 1: and I've been on teams like you have a run
51:18
Speaker 1: of injuries that one position group, like maybe the offense
51:21
Speaker 1: line gets beat up one year or you know, dbs
51:23
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, but never the kickers because they
51:26
Speaker 1: don't do enough to get like what do they do?
51:28
Speaker 1: But we've had hips and groins and everything else you
51:31
Speaker 1: can imagine. And it's one of those years that, boy,
51:36
Speaker 1: the kicking game will be interesting on Sunday. It's been
51:38
Speaker 1: an adventure the last few weeks. Yeah, I think that
51:44
Speaker 1: Josh goby On a start working out because he's next. Yeah,
51:57
Speaker 1: he probably could. I mean Josh still looks to being
52:00
Speaker 1: in shape. But I mean this is uh, you're getting
52:04
Speaker 1: You're getting pretty far down the line when you're when
52:07
Speaker 1: you're signing the kicker who essentially had a couple of
52:11
Speaker 1: stints with I think the Cincinnati Bengals in the San
52:14
Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners, but hasn't kicked in in a real
52:17
Speaker 1: NFL game, And uh, yeah, I mean this is uh,
52:22
Speaker 1: it's gonna be crazy. I mean Logan cook Is probably
52:26
Speaker 1: every day goes in and and has to remind himself
52:29
Speaker 1: of who he's talking to and who's his his kicker is.
52:31
Speaker 1: I mean that's just just crazy. But hopefully it doesn't
52:35
Speaker 1: come down to a kick like it did last week.
52:37
Speaker 1: I mean last week, you end up having a house,
52:39
Speaker 1: can end up missing a couple of kicks. It was
52:41
Speaker 1: critical in the ball game, be perfectly honest with you,
52:43
Speaker 1: The offense should have done better anyway to where they
52:45
Speaker 1: weren't in a situation of kicking field goals except for
52:48
Speaker 1: that one that was I think at the end of
52:50
Speaker 1: the first half, the long one. The rest of them though,
52:52
Speaker 1: they shouldn't even have been trying field goal. I asked
52:55
Speaker 1: Scobie the other day, Hey, what was the last time
52:58
Speaker 1: you you kicked a ball? He said, when Cargo shorts
53:01
Speaker 1: were cool. So it's been a while and I think
53:03
Speaker 1: he's out. He's not coming back anytime. So uh, speaking
53:07
Speaker 1: of the offense, Uh, the big talk this week, bow
53:10
Speaker 1: is the balance. J Gruden wants to get back to
53:12
Speaker 1: that balance. They didn't have that last week. Forty nine
53:15
Speaker 1: passing attempts from Minshew, eight or thirteen rushes for James Robinson.
53:20
Speaker 1: That's gotta be a little more equal for this offense
53:23
Speaker 1: to really hum And Gruden said it himself. Between attempts
53:27
Speaker 1: from Minshew is ideal. Oh, this is the third week
53:31
Speaker 1: in the row they're playing a defense that's just awful.
53:33
Speaker 1: It's back back weeks where it's the last it's the
53:37
Speaker 1: lowest rated defensive rushing defense in the NFL. The only
53:42
Speaker 1: reason the Texans aren't in last place because they we
53:45
Speaker 1: didn't run the ball against them. UM. So I don't
53:47
Speaker 1: think there should be balanced JP. I think it should
53:49
Speaker 1: be an imbalance, and in balance should be giving the
53:51
Speaker 1: ball to James Robinson and whoever else you have back there,
53:54
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson or I mean, I don't care who it is.
53:57
Speaker 1: This is a bad rush defense. And we had a
54:00
Speaker 1: bad rush defense last week, and for whatever reason, um,
54:03
Speaker 1: we decided to get away from it, and um that
54:06
Speaker 1: needs to change this week. Being balanced the other way
54:12
Speaker 1: now to two consecutive games to where you had the
54:15
Speaker 1: opportunity to maintain balance and you didn't do it. And
54:18
Speaker 1: I think the disappointing thing is that you talked about it.
54:21
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't like something that you just didn't
54:24
Speaker 1: You weren't aware of and and you weren't trying trying
54:28
Speaker 1: to attain some balance. And in the past week you
54:32
Speaker 1: just you didn't have any balance. And James Robinson came out,
54:35
Speaker 1: he looked good. The offensive line was doing good, and
54:40
Speaker 1: to be honestly, you I mean run it. I mean
54:43
Speaker 1: the tackles were handling J. J. Watt, they were missing
54:48
Speaker 1: a run stuffing powerful linebacker and Bernardrick McKinney, you know. So,
54:54
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to figure out what it
54:56
Speaker 1: was that they saw that they said, Okay, let's just
54:59
Speaker 1: throw the foot all more. But you know, hopefully this
55:01
Speaker 1: week they get back some balance and hopefully James Robinson
55:05
Speaker 1: can can really have a breakout game because he's because
55:09
Speaker 1: he has a lot of opportunity, you know, because I
55:12
Speaker 1: think he's capable of of controlling a football game, and
55:15
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is capable of controlling the
55:18
Speaker 1: football game. And obviously you still have to throw the
55:21
Speaker 1: ball occasionally, but I mean you can't just come out
55:24
Speaker 1: and run a ball of the time, but you've got
55:27
Speaker 1: to have I think when you when you talk about balance,
55:29
Speaker 1: I think in last week's game, even a week before that,
55:32
Speaker 1: and then this week against the Detroit line, I think
55:34
Speaker 1: you need to find a way to be and I
55:37
Speaker 1: think that should be a goal that you you should meet. Yeah,
55:42
Speaker 1: this won't be like the Steelers regular season game and
55:45
Speaker 1: seventeen at the end of the game where they ran
55:47
Speaker 1: late what fourteen straight times for a touchdown? Remember that
55:51
Speaker 1: I feel like that. I don't think maybe why shouldn't
55:55
Speaker 1: they I mean, I mean they've been imbalanced with throwing
55:58
Speaker 1: the ball and they have not been effective. I mean,
56:01
Speaker 1: they're not scoring points if you look at it, and
56:04
Speaker 1: they're they're struggling in the red zone. At least last
56:07
Speaker 1: week they did. So why wouldn't you run it more?
56:09
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'll go back to what Jeff
56:11
Speaker 1: said about, you know, why not start Sydney Jones? Why
56:15
Speaker 1: not give more reps? I mean, based on um, what
56:18
Speaker 1: they did last week? I mean I would, I would
56:22
Speaker 1: really look at you're playing a terrible defense. They can't
56:25
Speaker 1: stop the run, run the ball being bounced that way. Right.
56:31
Speaker 1: We get Tony's take on this, that's pretty obvious what
56:35
Speaker 1: he would like to see, uh this week and we'll
56:38
Speaker 1: see if the Jaguars can can balance things out. So uh,
56:42
Speaker 1: we asked Lugs at the top of the show this,
56:44
Speaker 1: but Tony, are are partying shot with you? This is
56:47
Speaker 1: a game, you know, four straight losses. It's a young team.
56:52
Speaker 1: They need to get some a shot of confidence somehow
56:54
Speaker 1: and get a winning result this week obviously to kind
56:57
Speaker 1: of get back on the right track here, because uh,
57:00
Speaker 1: it can slide pretty quickly. But so far as you
57:03
Speaker 1: heard Gardners say, they feel like they're kind of keeping
57:05
Speaker 1: things together, but they need a winning result to kind
57:07
Speaker 1: of pay it all off. It feels like, yeah, winning
57:10
Speaker 1: cures everything. And I mean these losses are stacking up,
57:13
Speaker 1: and I think they've been bad bosses in the last
57:15
Speaker 1: few weeks. Um, you gotta find a way to you know,
57:17
Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to play good on both
57:20
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. I thought the defense played pretty
57:21
Speaker 1: well last week for three quarters. Offense gave them nothing,
57:24
Speaker 1: didn't do anything to help him out. Um, here comes
57:27
Speaker 1: to the Detroit Lions, and they got talent. I mean
57:28
Speaker 1: they got I mean Stafford might be a little bit
57:31
Speaker 1: shaky as far as protecting the ball, but guy can
57:34
Speaker 1: play quarterback, holiday there wide receiver is a big time player.
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Speaker 1: I mean they have decent um offensive line, and uh,
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Speaker 1: this is not an easy matchup. It's not a great
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Speaker 1: team as far as record wise. But you gotta find
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Speaker 1: a way to get a win somehow, some way. I
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Speaker 1: gotta get it done. This week logs. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think this is a tough matchup for the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: and and reason I say that you got to match Stafford.
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Speaker 1: And if it's not a tough match up, if you
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Speaker 1: can keep Matt Stafford from performing better than he has
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Speaker 1: recently because his feet have been bad, his accuracy hasn't
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Speaker 1: been great. But if he's on and if he's playing better,
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Speaker 1: which the Jaguars have allowed over sevent completion rate, he's
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Speaker 1: got a lot of weapons and across the board, and
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Speaker 1: that concerns me alright. So that's the final word on
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Speaker 1: the Jags Lions match up this Sunday at t I
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Speaker 1: a bank field of one o'clock kickoff time, but no
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Speaker 1: Thursday night football tonight, Tony. So it's now on a
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Speaker 1: Monday night about that things are changing. It's the world
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Speaker 1: of the pandemic. And you know what, uh to sit
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Speaker 1: back and don't make too many plans because it can
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Speaker 1: change at any moment. They can, And we'll obviously try
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Speaker 1: to get you back on those broadcasts as soon as
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Speaker 1: as possible, and we'll hear about these games as we
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Speaker 1: move ahead here. So that'll do it for Jaguars Happy hour,
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Speaker 1: Tony we'll talk to you on Sunday in the Public's
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Speaker 1: Tailgate Show. All right, sounds good to you guys. Tony
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Speaker 1: Boselli out of here, Jeff Logoman, We'll stick around and
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Speaker 1: I hope you will as well. The Jaguars Radio Network
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Speaker 1: coverage begins in just a few moments. The Doug Morone
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Speaker 1: Show is coming up next ahead of the Lions Jaguar's
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Speaker 1: matchup in Week six. Prior entire crew, Jeff Logoman and
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Speaker 1: Tony Basselli, I'm JP Shadrick, and thank you for listening
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Speaker 1: and who watching Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.