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What We See Today Versus The History Of The Jews And The Left From Batya Ungar Sargon · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Thank god? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic, looking forward to sharing a conversation with you,
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  Speaker 1: because in reality, you're breaking down something that we need
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  Speaker 1: to be talking about. And I mean, this is one
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  Speaker 1: of those things that I get. The more and more
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  Speaker 1: I dig in, the more and more I say, this
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  Speaker 1: isn't lost in history. We've just not been taught this
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  Speaker 1: in history. And then along you come, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: my eyes are wide open, my heart is wide open.
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  Speaker 1: Please share with me even more.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so kind of you. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much for having me and for those really lovely words. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I do feel that we sort of have lost the
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  Speaker 2: first three hundred years of American Jewish history. And I
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  Speaker 2: really wanted to write this book to reclaim it because
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think of Jews as
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  Speaker 2: a minority and a pressed minority, but actually the founding
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  Speaker 2: fathers never saw Jews that way. They saw us as
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  Speaker 2: sort of founding partners in the creation of this great nation,
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  Speaker 2: which explains why America has always had this love affair
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  Speaker 2: with its Jews, has always treated its Jews so well,
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  Speaker 2: uniquely in the history of humanity, and I think especially
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  Speaker 2: American Christians sort of organized their religion around the idea
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  Speaker 2: that Jews are precious again, uniquely in the history of humanity,
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to really uncover all of that lost
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  Speaker 2: history while also explaining why Jews ended up kind of
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  Speaker 2: voting for Democrats for one hundred years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what's really interesting about this is that
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  Speaker 1: this is really a very peaceful place from my heart,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like the first time that someone has said,
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  Speaker 1: we weren't wearing labels back in those early days to
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  Speaker 1: three hundred years ago. We Okay, so we all went
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  Speaker 1: into separate buildings when it came to our places of study,
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  Speaker 1: but there were there were we were all working together.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm picking up on this is that
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that we can still be this unity
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  Speaker 1: if we just know the history before we get here
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  Speaker 1: in this moment of now.
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  Speaker 2: That is so beautifully put. I like, wow, that's so beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: It's so true. Like they never saw Jews as other.
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  Speaker 2: They respected their religious freedom, they protected their religious freedom,
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  Speaker 2: they understood that they worshiped their God differently, but they
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  Speaker 2: never saw them as other or as different. Fundamentally as Americans,
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  Speaker 2: there was this real eplace rob Us Unham that they
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  Speaker 2: saw Jews as kind of like the proof of concept
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  Speaker 2: of what this great nation could be. And I think
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  Speaker 2: you're so right. Today obviously so much more unites us
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  Speaker 2: and divides us as Americans, but we really don't see
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  Speaker 2: that reflected in the media and in our politics. So
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  Speaker 2: I think the people telling the great American story are
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  Speaker 2: often trying to divide us when you're so right that
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  Speaker 2: most of the history really kind of flies in the
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  Speaker 2: face of that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is to me a part of our two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty year anniversary, because this is a part
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  Speaker 1: of our history. And the thing is those you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's I'm not asking anybody to drop their guard. What
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is get people to understand the
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  Speaker 1: path and the process of how it is that we
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  Speaker 1: became this great nation, or as they all say, this
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  Speaker 1: this big pot of all these people that came from everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: We are a nation of all people, and in my
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  Speaker 1: heart I believe in all people. We got to live
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  Speaker 1: that path.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much an America two fifty book, because
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  Speaker 2: it's it's not just about this beautiful history, but it's
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  Speaker 2: about the uniqueness of this nation. America was seen as
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  Speaker 2: the promised land for the Christians who came here and
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  Speaker 2: the Jews who came here, and to me it still is.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, of course, there is rising anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 2: especially on the left, there's a lot of that. I
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  Speaker 2: talk about it a lot in the book. It's also
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  Speaker 2: a little bit on the right. Sadly, there's you know,
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  Speaker 2: just this kind of tendency now to blame Jews, blame
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  Speaker 2: Israel for whatever is going wrong, and that is definitely there.
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  Speaker 2: But I still feel so utterly optimistic about our future
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  Speaker 2: as American Jews and our future as Americans, because from
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  Speaker 2: the minute the first Jew stepped foot on American soil
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  Speaker 2: in sixteen fifty four, it was like the soil itself
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  Speaker 2: rejected Jew hate because you would have people like Peter Stuyvesant,
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  Speaker 2: the first official that they encountered, a rank anti semit
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  Speaker 2: He tried to force the Jews to leave, and they
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  Speaker 2: sued in and one and again and again and again.
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  Speaker 2: He would try to inflict on them indignities and oppression
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  Speaker 2: and deprive them of the rights that the Christians had here.
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  Speaker 2: And again and again they would take him to court,
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  Speaker 2: and they would win. And we're talking about less than
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  Speaker 2: a decade after fifty thousand Jews were murdered by Cossacks
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  Speaker 2: in the Khmelnitsky Massacre. Less than a decade later, Aser Levy,
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  Speaker 2: the Jewish founding father, was suing Peter Stuyvesant for equal
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  Speaker 2: rights and winning in a court of law. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the soil itself rejected jew hate. And when you're living
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  Speaker 2: on soil like that today, it's a betrayal of that history.
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  Speaker 2: To not feel utterly optimistic and hopeful and confident about
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  Speaker 2: the future.
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  Speaker 1: You got to understand how much this hurts my heart
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  Speaker 1: to hear this about this country. And the reason why
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  Speaker 1: is because I live in a forest where there is
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  Speaker 1: living proof that people were here in the fourteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 1: and so to hear the story like this and I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, what else do I need to learn
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  Speaker 1: about this soil that which I stand on right now?
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  Speaker 1: That I need to know? And things like this open
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  Speaker 1: up my eyes to dig in deeper their dude, and
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  Speaker 1: find out what really happened, and what happened before you
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  Speaker 1: even planted your feet in this forest, because that is
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  Speaker 1: so important to me to understand that. And you're you've
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  Speaker 1: got the guts to make this happen.
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  Speaker 2: That's so kind. I felt the same way when I
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  Speaker 2: read this. There's a story that, uh, it's hard for
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  Speaker 2: me to get through without crying. But the first Jews
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  Speaker 2: who came here, they were twenty three refugees from Recife
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  Speaker 2: in Brazil, and they had been blown off course. They'd
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  Speaker 2: been intending to go back to Amsterdam, and they'd been
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  Speaker 2: beset on by pirates and then rescued by a front captain,
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  Speaker 2: Captain Delamotte, who brought them to New Amsterdam because that's
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  Speaker 2: where he was going. But when they got here, he
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  Speaker 2: refused to give them back all of their belongings because
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  Speaker 2: he said that they owed him money for the true
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  Speaker 2: and they had no money because the pirates had taken
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  Speaker 2: it all. And so what happened was. There was a
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  Speaker 2: lengthy court battle, and you know, they kind of went
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  Speaker 2: back and forth because on the one hand, the colony
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  Speaker 2: their policy was to embrace and welcome new immigrants, but
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  Speaker 2: on the other hand, they felt that they couldn't just
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  Speaker 2: ignore the claim of Delamotte. So what was decided was
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  Speaker 2: that the Jewish, the Jews furniture and belongings would be
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  Speaker 2: sold at auction and the money that was raised would
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  Speaker 2: be used to pay off Delamotte. And when the Jews
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  Speaker 2: walked out of the courthouse, they found their new Christian
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  Speaker 2: neighbors had bought up all their furniture and all of
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  Speaker 2: their belongings and just handed it back over to them
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  Speaker 2: in what was the first act of you know, Christian
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  Speaker 2: charity to Jews in the United States of America. It's
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  Speaker 2: just like an utterly incredible, incredible story. They were so shocked,
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  Speaker 2: these refugees who had never known anything of persecution, to
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  Speaker 2: be greeted with such kindness. And I think this was
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  Speaker 2: sort of the building blocks fund. This laid the foundation
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  Speaker 2: of American Jewish life and our friendship with our Christian
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  Speaker 2: neighbors going forward.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you started this off by talking
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  Speaker 1: about them. Being from Brazil because my wife is Jewish,
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  Speaker 1: I am Christian. And one of the strong things that
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  Speaker 1: she is really kind of really shared with me and
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  Speaker 1: helped me understand is that because she'll sit there, she
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  Speaker 1: has the guts to say this, what you think we
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  Speaker 1: all came from juwvil, That is not true.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: You need to sit there and look at world history
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  Speaker 1: and start looking at what really goes on. And then
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  Speaker 1: to hear that you're talking about Brazil. You warm my
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  Speaker 1: soul when you talk like that, because you're she's right,
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  Speaker 1: and you're right. It didn't just happen. Oh this little
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  Speaker 1: dot on the on the wall over here, that's causing war.
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  Speaker 1: It's not causing war. We just got to work together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with that. Yeah. It's funny because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people will say, well, well, I don't
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  Speaker 2: hate Jews, I just hate Israel, or I just have
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  Speaker 2: a problem with Israel. And the problem with that is
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  Speaker 2: that you know, most American Jews, most Jews worldwide, are
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  Speaker 2: not very religious people. Right, their religion, their spirituality is
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  Speaker 2: their cannet to other Jews into the land of Israel.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're saying to me, well, I have room
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  Speaker 2: in my movement for Jews but not Zionists. You're basically saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, eighty five percent, ninety percent of Jews take
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  Speaker 2: a hike. There's no room for you here. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's really important for people to understand. You know,
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  Speaker 2: why Jews take Israel personally. Obviously, we're Americans. You know,
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  Speaker 2: our loyalties are to the United States of America, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel that very strongly. But the idea that somebody
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  Speaker 2: could say, well, I don't think Israel has a right
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  Speaker 2: to exist, you have to co sign that if you
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  Speaker 2: want to be part of this movement. You know, that's
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  Speaker 2: not something that any Jew with any dignity is going
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  Speaker 2: to accept.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There is more on the way
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  Speaker 1: from Batia from News Nation the name of the book,
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  Speaker 1: The Jews and the Left we are back. I hope
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  Speaker 1: your PR department is allowing you to speak with other
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  Speaker 1: people such as the you know, likely the Tony Katz
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  Speaker 1: of the world and the Mark Levans, because I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear everybody's points of direction, because these two guys
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  Speaker 1: are the ones that said, go go listen to everybody else,
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  Speaker 1: go listen and and then and then come up with
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  Speaker 1: with the story and then and then to to have
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with you and to hold your book and
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  Speaker 1: to read your book. You're you're opening up so many
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  Speaker 1: different paths here, especially when it comes to our current
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  Speaker 1: situations in this country where a New York City mayor
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  Speaker 1: is saying things and you're going, whoa, WHOA hold on, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: take a picture, but but you know, use a wide lens.
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  Speaker 1: I want the full picture, not a one man's opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It is so interesting because they'll kind of try
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  Speaker 2: to cloak what are very anti Jewish views in the
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  Speaker 2: language of you know, social justice, and they'll make up
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  Speaker 2: smears about Jews, Jews who support Israel, Israel apac you know.
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  Speaker 2: And what it does is it makes Jews feel very
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  Speaker 2: alienated and oftentimes from a party that they have supported
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  Speaker 2: for a hundred years. So it's a it's a very
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  Speaker 2: challenging moment right now. I think for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: American Jews, most of them two thirds of them are Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: and yet after October seventh, they were completely abandoned by
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. Donald Trump actually got a record number
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  Speaker 2: of Jewish votes in twenty twenty four since Reagan. You
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  Speaker 2: got about thirty five percent and it'll be very interesting
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  Speaker 2: to see, you know, down the road, what comes next,
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  Speaker 2: if there's more, you know, Jewish attrition to the right
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  Speaker 2: or less. See.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you brought up October seventh, because
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  Speaker 1: I still think that that was a Beatles moment, a
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  Speaker 1: pivotable moment where the whole world changed, everything changed, and
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  Speaker 1: we need books like this that say, okay, now that
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  Speaker 1: you know the change, understand the change, and understand the people,
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  Speaker 1: and I just we just need the education and it
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  Speaker 1: can't sit on the back burner anymore, and we need
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  Speaker 1: people to bring this forward, like yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you saying that. It's funny because when
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  Speaker 2: I first wrote the book, there was so much anti
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  Speaker 2: Semitism on the left, like coming up from people like
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  Speaker 2: Mom Donnie, this anti Zionism. You know, Charlie Kirk was
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  Speaker 2: still alive, and I was always thinking, I can't wait
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  Speaker 2: to share this book with him about how Jews are
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  Speaker 2: like heritage Americans and how we were here from the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought about him almost every day that I
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  Speaker 2: was writing it. And then he was assassinated and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the unity on the right started to fall apart,
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  Speaker 2: and some far right voices including you know, Tucker Carlson
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  Speaker 2: and Nick Fuentes and Candice Owens and Alex Jones started
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  Speaker 2: to really promote the same kinds of anti Semitic, anti
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  Speaker 2: Jewish conspiracy theories that you usually see on the left,
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  Speaker 2: and I started to think, wow, did I write the
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  Speaker 2: wrong book moment. What you did see, though, I think
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  Speaker 2: in the intervening time, was a lot of pushback against
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  Speaker 2: it on the right, starting with President Trump on My
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  Speaker 2: News Nation show. I had Republican senators, Republican congressmen, Republican
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  Speaker 2: members of the Cabinet really pushing back and saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't like Jews, this is not the party
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  Speaker 2: for you. Go to the other side. That's where you belong,
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  Speaker 2: because we don't tolerate that here. And so that was
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  Speaker 2: very heartening to see. I will say, in the wake
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  Speaker 2: of this Iran deal situation, you're seeing a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of it. This instinct to blame Israel for all
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  Speaker 2: of our problems is you know, look, obviously you have
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  Speaker 2: to be able to criticize Israel. It's a sovereign nation.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very powerful sovereignation. I criticize it frequently. The
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  Speaker 2: problem is when you have this knee jerk feeling at
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  Speaker 2: the pit of your stomach that probably if something's going wrong,
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  Speaker 2: probably it's Israel's fault. That is something that you should
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  Speaker 2: really if that is something that you've noticed about yourself,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to take a long, hard look in the
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  Speaker 2: mirror and ask yourself why you started to think that,
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  Speaker 2: because it is not the case. Ever. You know, people
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  Speaker 2: were trying to say, Israel force Donald Trump into the
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  Speaker 2: warn Iran, as if Donald Trump is a person who
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  Speaker 2: can be forced to do anything.
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  Speaker 1: Wake up, you know, you really do bring up a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting points. It's like, if you're going to be
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  Speaker 1: on this team, you have to do this, this, and this,
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  Speaker 1: and it's all of those situations. So I swear to
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  Speaker 1: God that I find myself saying where's my ball? I
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  Speaker 1: want to go home. I don't want to play this
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  Speaker 1: game anymore. And the thing and as news continues to
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  Speaker 1: spin and those oh, those accusations get inside my soul.
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  Speaker 1: I can hear my heart beating in my throat when
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  Speaker 1: I read these stories or I experience these stories. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why, because I'm even my own church, we are
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  Speaker 1: a people church. We are for every person. So when
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  Speaker 1: I hear of this division, It just and I sit
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  Speaker 1: there and I go, please, please help me, help me
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  Speaker 1: understand why there's division, and what can we do as
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  Speaker 1: peacemakers and activators.
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  Speaker 2: Completely completely? And that's the exact question I'm always asking myself,
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  Speaker 2: is like, what can I do to be a unite
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  Speaker 2: or and not a divide or how can I speak
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  Speaker 2: the truth so that it both gives comfort to the
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  Speaker 2: people who are already agree with me, but also could
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  Speaker 2: potentially convince somebody who doesn't already agree with me. I
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  Speaker 2: think that for us as media figures and communicators is
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  Speaker 2: really important because I think it's very easy to go,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like Defcon five and to really blast the
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  Speaker 2: people that you think are wrong. But when you do that,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of alienate everybody who's not already in agreement
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  Speaker 2: with you. And we can't control anybody except ourselves. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I pray for in the morning is for God to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when I speak, to open my mouth and
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  Speaker 2: to make me speak in a way that can be
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  Speaker 2: heard by people who don't agree with me, because I
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  Speaker 2: so totally agree with what you said before that more
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  Speaker 2: unites us than divides us as Americans, and like that
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  Speaker 2: is what my heart beats for. That is the purpose
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  Speaker 2: of everything that I do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, and I know I'm running out of
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  Speaker 1: time here, but it's one of those things. And like
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  Speaker 1: I said in the very beginning, it's that we all
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  Speaker 1: have this assumption that we think we know when in fact, okay,
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  Speaker 1: have you been to the other side?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know?
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  Speaker 1: And it was a preacher that once said to me
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  Speaker 1: he was in my studio at iHeart and he and
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  Speaker 1: he goes, I have to read that book about the Atheist.
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  Speaker 1: And I said why because I have to know what
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  Speaker 1: the other side is doing, and and and and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that this is where we are in history.
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  Speaker 1: We have to know. Why do we have this strong opinion?
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, go see the other side. Now, come
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  Speaker 1: back to me in a year or so and tell
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  Speaker 1: me what you learned.
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  Speaker 2: It's so true. I think a lot of the negative
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  Speaker 2: politics are coming from a kind of hopelessness that young
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  Speaker 2: people feel, where they don't see themselves as sort of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, woven into the fabric of American society. They
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  Speaker 2: feel rejected, they don't see a pathway to the American dream.
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  Speaker 2: And I think whether they're on the left or on
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  Speaker 2: the far right. That leads them to look for a scapegoat,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is extremely natural, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the thing to fight because that's despair, right,
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  Speaker 2: and that is the thing we need to be fighting against,
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  Speaker 2: is the despair and just doubling down on this idea
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  Speaker 2: that you know, you have agency, You have choices in
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  Speaker 2: every moment of every day, no matter what your struggle is,
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  Speaker 2: you have choices. You're an American, you are one of
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  Speaker 2: the freest people to ever walk planet Earth, you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and like to give into despair when you've been given
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: that privilege, the greatest privilege on God's green Earth. Yes,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I think is a real mistake, and I think but
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the only way to really convince them of this is
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: with a lot of love.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: In my view, I love where your heart is. You
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: got to come back to this show anytime in the future.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you anytime.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, God bless and protect you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, thank you so much.