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Mac & Bone Show - Jessica Charman Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Charlotte FC. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the beautiful game of soccer. Jess has the
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte FC-DC United game on Apple on the road on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday evening. But you know we're going to have some laughs, too,
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  Speaker 1: because Jess is here. Jessica Charman joins us on the
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  Speaker 1: Mac and Bone Show. Jess, what's going on? What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing very well. You gave me a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a PTSD talking about traffic violations. I got a very,
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  Speaker 2: very stupid one like three years ago. And what's crazy
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  Speaker 2: in Georgia is they send you a video of you
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  Speaker 2: in the mail doing said traffic violations. So you have
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  Speaker 2: to scan a QR code and watch yourself make the mistake.
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  Speaker 2: It is horrendous.
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  Speaker 3: You got to like watch your film. Jess was just
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  Speaker 3: coming out of a drive-thru by any chance.
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  Speaker 2: I wish it was. Honestly, it would have probably been
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  Speaker 2: less embarrassing. Look, I'll be completely honest. This is a
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  Speaker 2: bad one. It was a school bus violation, but this
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  Speaker 2: is what happened, right? I was five lanes. I was
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  Speaker 2: five lanes away from said school bus. Five lanes. There
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  Speaker 2: was no center console. And so I guess like five
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  Speaker 2: of us probably got the tickets. But you scan the
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  Speaker 2: QR code, you watch yourselves, and you're just like, Jess, stop. Jess, stop. No,
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  Speaker 2: you haven't stopped. Yeah, it was bad. I am mad.
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  Speaker 3: That's that.
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  Speaker 2: I try not to drive between the hours of school buses.
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  Speaker 2: They terrify me.
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  Speaker 3: That could have been even worse, Jess. You could have
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  Speaker 3: been driving on the other side of the road, like
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  Speaker 3: in England. At least, yeah, at least you got the
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  Speaker 3: right side of the road down pat.
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  Speaker 2: This is so not soccer, but my dad on a
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  Speaker 2: college campus at Clayton State once was driving on the
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  Speaker 2: wrong side of the road. He got pulled over. Bad
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  Speaker 2: Andy tried to get out the car, tried to get
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  Speaker 2: out the car, because in England, you get out the car.
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  Speaker 2: And so they... Get back in the car, sir. Get
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  Speaker 2: back in the car, sir. It was terrifying. This is
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  Speaker 2: my first time here. College campus. Traumatized from that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's hilarious. And so that's interesting. In England, you
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  Speaker 1: get out of the car. Yeah, that's a no-no here because.
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  Speaker 3: They don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: People don't have weapons.
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  Speaker 3: We don't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, some people do, but they're not meant
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  Speaker 2: to have weapons, if you get what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you can't legally have a gun here. So they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: get out of the car, sir. You're fine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Very interesting cultural differences. Poor fat Andy. Poor fat
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  Speaker 1: Andy must have not had any idea what he was
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  Speaker 1: getting screamed about.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Let's talk soccer.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about Charlotte FC right now? Seven
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  Speaker 1: unbeaten in their last seven MLS games. I was a
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  Speaker 1: little bummed just they didn't hold the lead. against Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: the other night but that's on the road it's still
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  Speaker 1: I'll take that point Cincinnati really needed that game like
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  Speaker 1: I just I I don't know I feel good vibes
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  Speaker 1: with Charlotte right now what do you think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I feel good vibes too I think it's really
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  Speaker 2: funny when you look at the two road games in
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  Speaker 2: a row right with Montreal and Cincinnati before that run
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  Speaker 2: if you'd have said Charlotte takes four points from two
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  Speaker 2: road games everyone would have been like yeah sounds great
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  Speaker 2: I'll take it The issue was because of the way
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  Speaker 2: that Cincinnati match played out and the lead and scoring
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  Speaker 2: and showing resilience coming back after conceding early and then
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  Speaker 2: being in the lead so late in the game. It
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  Speaker 2: was one of those that felt a little bit like
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  Speaker 2: Toronto away that I did with two goal leads. And
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  Speaker 2: then you ended up in a 3-3 draw as well.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're going to be picky, which I think
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  Speaker 2: Charlotte fans have a right to be picky with the
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  Speaker 2: standard that they're expecting from their squad now, you need
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  Speaker 2: to turn that match into three points. But in the
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  Speaker 2: same vein, a point still keeps you in and around
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  Speaker 2: that chase for the top four, top three spots. I
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  Speaker 2: have to say that it has to be top four
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  Speaker 2: for Charlotte, right? This... eastern conference is wildly close and
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to end up slipping into sixth or
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  Speaker 2: seventh and ending up playing against a nashville or into
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  Speaker 2: miami realistically in the play no way.
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  Speaker 1: And you want to have that home field although i
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  Speaker 1: say that and knowing that we had it last year
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  Speaker 1: They got to win. They got to advance in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm with you about four top four and third
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  Speaker 1: is there. That's doable. But Chess, they've got to advance
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, too. They got to make progress. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's been great to be in the playoffs because I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to take that for granted as a Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: sports fan because it's not guaranteed.
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  Speaker 3: But don't they have to advance, too?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what's so funny, right? Because obviously now
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  Speaker 2: that I work with the league, I pull these numbers
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  Speaker 2: for teams and there are teams that have missed playoffs
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  Speaker 2: for five, six years straight, right? And Charlotte's only failed
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  Speaker 2: to make postseason. I'll call it postseason because of the
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  Speaker 2: first year in the play-in game, which people would say,
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  Speaker 2: they haven't made playoffs. I mean, they're in the postseason,
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  Speaker 2: it counts. They've only ever failed to make it one time.
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  Speaker 2: So it has been successful in terms of being in
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  Speaker 2: and around the mix of staying alive in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: The issue is, True progress is progressing, right? And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying that Charlotte needs to win an MLS Cup
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  Speaker 2: in order to be successful this season. It will be
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  Speaker 2: a dream come true and the city would really benefit
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  Speaker 2: from it. But I do feel like you have to
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  Speaker 2: advance in round one playoff I mean, an Eastern Conference
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  Speaker 2: final even would be a success. But I do have
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  Speaker 2: this opinion where, particularly with the strength of players that
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  Speaker 2: are on this squad, with the fact that Dean now
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  Speaker 2: has added the consistency, he's been in the managerial position
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  Speaker 2: for longer than any other gaffer. It's like, what's next?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think making playoffs is enough right now
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  Speaker 2: with the quality of roster and the results that this
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  Speaker 2: team has had. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Jess, what have you thought of Maxie? What he adds
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  Speaker 3: to this team and compare and contrast a little bit
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  Speaker 3: this attack with Maxie compared to what it looked like
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  Speaker 3: with Zaha in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love him. I think that he's a sort
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  Speaker 2: of player as a commentator. That is your dream because
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  Speaker 2: he makes you excited. Naturally. Anytime he gets the ball,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of shift up. You stand a little closer.
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  Speaker 2: You try and, you know, put your head through that
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  Speaker 2: glass because you know, something good is going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I think his attitude is brilliant. I enjoy watching him.
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  Speaker 2: He seems like he... What's funny is, right, yesterday I
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  Speaker 2: was looking back at old highlights of him and he
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  Speaker 2: hasn't changed the way he plays. He gets the ball,
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  Speaker 2: he shifts, he moves through players. There's something so energetic
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  Speaker 2: about the way he dribbles with the ball. Where he's
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  Speaker 2: different from Wilfred Zaha, as we saw it with Zaha,
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  Speaker 2: is more of a goal scorer and assist bringer. Maxi
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  Speaker 2: right now is showing that he cares more about setting
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  Speaker 2: up other players. But the biggest thing for me is...
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  Speaker 2: I think he's truly a team player. And that's not
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  Speaker 2: to say Wilf wasn't a team player, but there were
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  Speaker 2: times where Wilfred Zaha would have a choice to take
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  Speaker 2: a shot or square and he would go for the shot.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're seeing the reason that Max hasn't scored
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  Speaker 2: yet is because Alan San Maxime is always looking to
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  Speaker 2: make his teammates better. And we've talked a lot about
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  Speaker 2: Leo Labada and his improvements. I think that Leo Labada
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  Speaker 2: works really hard in the World Cup break and has
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  Speaker 2: come back with a great attitude. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's a coincidence that Leo Labada looks so much better
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  Speaker 2: when Alan San Maxime is on the pitch either.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You see Maxie cut inside and find Abada
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  Speaker 1: over there on that other wing a bunch. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Abada's confident now. That's another reason why I feel good
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  Speaker 1: about this team. And I have to tell you, I
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  Speaker 1: was a Zaha defender, Jess. You know how polarizing he was, right?
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  Speaker 1: And when a player is always, like, angry like that, right?
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  Speaker 1: You're talking to Jess here. I'm sure she played that way.
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  Speaker 1: Fans didn't like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That negative stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The issue with Zaha was at times it took away
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  Speaker 2: from the game, right? There's one thing that a player
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  Speaker 2: gets angry. And look, I learn messy, right? I know
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  Speaker 2: that people that either love him or hate him, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, those means of low messy when someone upset
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  Speaker 2: him in the world cup, like drew Bellingham and then
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  Speaker 2: his eyes switched and he turned it into a positive thing.
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  Speaker 2: Messi knew how to channel his anger. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if Zaha always channeled his anger and frustration.
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  Speaker 3: No, good point.
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  Speaker 2: There were examples where he did. I remember clear examples
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  Speaker 2: where he was fouled and then he went and scored
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  Speaker 2: on the team. But there were times where it felt
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  Speaker 2: like that frustration took away from the team and unsettled
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  Speaker 2: the team. I mean... Don't we still kind of agree
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  Speaker 2: that the reason why Charlotte was struggling in that first
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  Speaker 2: round of playoffs last year is because he was unavailable?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that all went down on one way.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't make Charlotte lose in the playoffs in a
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  Speaker 2: round of three, but it didn't help.
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  Speaker 3: No, that hurt. That hurt.
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  Speaker 1: And you don't, yeah, Maxie, you just sense it's all,
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  Speaker 1: you know, positive vibes and my God, he's.
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  Speaker 3: Electric and his passing range, Jess. I didn't know the
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  Speaker 3: passing range was that good. He's special. What about the headband?
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  Speaker 2: Would you wear a Gucci or Louis Vuitton headband if
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  Speaker 2: you could afford one?
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  Speaker 3: If I could afford one? Jess knows what we make
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  Speaker 3: around here.
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  Speaker 2: I know I can't afford one.
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  Speaker 3: It works for him.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I would look goofy, Bone, if I
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  Speaker 1: tried to. First of all, I'd look goofy playing any
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  Speaker 1: sport at this point at 52. But if I tried
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  Speaker 1: to rock the headband, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Not sure it's working. But it works for him, man. Jess,
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  Speaker 3: I went through a soccer playing headband phase when I
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  Speaker 3: was younger. I looked like Elmer Fudd wearing a headband
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  Speaker 3: playing fullback.
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  Speaker 2: Were they the thick ones that had like the sweat, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like a proper sweat headband too? Because I
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  Speaker 2: remember trying one of those. I'm like a tomato when
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  Speaker 2: I exercise.
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  Speaker 3: A tomato?
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  Speaker 2: A what?
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  Speaker 3: I could be in.
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  Speaker 2: The best a tomato, a tomato. I could be in
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  Speaker 2: the best place of my life. And people, people would
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  Speaker 2: still be like, it's so bad. People like Jesse, you're okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm just, you know, I've just been running,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm okay. Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: People literally think I was going to collapse.
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  Speaker 1: You get red face. That's the way my wife is.
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  Speaker 1: Like when she, like she gets, and she's passed it
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  Speaker 1: on to our kids. Leah, that's a, that's hilarious. So
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  Speaker 1: y'all go tomato. Y'all go tomato in England.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tomato.
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  Speaker 2: I then think potato. We say potato, but it's tomato.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. You don't go potato?
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine? I would like some of those crispy potatoes.
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  Speaker 3: That does sound a little bit highfalutin there.
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  Speaker 1: Jess, before we let you go, I do need to ask,
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  Speaker 1: are there no games in Canada this week?
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  Speaker 3: How did you get there?
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  Speaker 1: The assignment in D.C.? Because I have to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's Charlotte, you had the Montreal game, or whether
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  Speaker 1: it's like I'm flipping around on Apple and it's another game.
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  Speaker 1: They send you to Canada. Why are you the designated
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  Speaker 1: Canada announcer, it feels like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I have you want to know what's fun I
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  Speaker 2: do have one more Montreal game this season it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be with Lloyd I'm going to get to commentate
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  Speaker 2: again with Lloyd Sam in October.
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  Speaker 3: But no, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: I believe I'm done with Canadian assignments. Maybe they put
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  Speaker 2: me in D.C. back to back weeks because they know
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: maybe my citizenship exam might finally be scheduled. So I'm
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: walking around and doing some research for my test while
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: I'm there. I'm like, oh, that's the monument. Did you
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  Speaker 2: know museums in D.C. are free because of the taxes
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  Speaker 2: as well? So you just walk in and you're like, oof.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to learn about the U.S. and be
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  Speaker 2: very patriotic while I'm over there.
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  Speaker 3: You keep going to Canada, you might get dual citizenship there.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. I'm going to have triple.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have three passports at this rate, right?
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  Speaker 3: There you go. There you go. All right, Jess, good
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  Speaker 3: catching up with you. We love you, Jess. Look forward
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  Speaker 3: to hearing you on Saturday night. Thanks for coming on, Jess.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime, boys. Have a good rest of your show.