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Joy Taylor x Lore’l: “Messy” Media, Boundaries & the Blocked List · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: When it's a woman asking the tough questions, they automatically
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  Speaker 1: go to like the gossip and messy. But with guys,
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  Speaker 1: is journalism, I get it. I want to turn up too,
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  Speaker 1: obviously mm hmm. You've seen me do it.
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  Speaker 2: But some people say out look means on cult old fail.
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  Speaker 2: No Jay.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome Too Personal. I'm Joy Taylor, Thanks so
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  Speaker 3: much for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: This week.
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  Speaker 3: We have a very exciting guest. Loriella's on the show today.
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  Speaker 3: She's an incredible host, media personality and recording artists. She
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  Speaker 3: hosts the Morning Hustle radio show as well as listen
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  Speaker 3: to Black Women from Madame Noir and Live Wire from
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  Speaker 3: Hip Hop Wired. So she's all over the media space.
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  Speaker 2: And we have a great.
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  Speaker 3: Chat about media, about politics and lots of other issues
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  Speaker 3: and we will get to that later. And of course
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  Speaker 3: we will talk to you a number two Personal if
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  Speaker 3: you want to be a part of the show Two
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  Speaker 3: Personal Podcasts at gmail dot com or you can dm
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  Speaker 3: us at two Personal Show on Instagram. Of course, if
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  Speaker 3: you haven't already, make sure you hit subscribe. But before
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  Speaker 3: we get to lrel, we have to talk about children.
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  Speaker 3: So I've talked about this before, but if you don't
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  Speaker 3: know this about me, I do not want to have children.
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  Speaker 3: I have never been pregnant and I have never wanted
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  Speaker 3: to have children. I've made the concession at different points
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  Speaker 3: in my life that I would have to have children
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  Speaker 3: because the partner that I was with at the time
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  Speaker 3: wanted to have kids. Thankfully, that did not happen, and
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  Speaker 3: my life is by design childless. I love kids. I
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  Speaker 3: love having a massive family. I love being able to
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  Speaker 3: be an aunt's in my nephews and nieces lives. I'm
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  Speaker 3: very active as a participant in their life. I have
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  Speaker 3: helped raise them and I try to be available to
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  Speaker 3: them and be around for them as much as possible.
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  Speaker 3: And I love having children in my life, and I
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  Speaker 3: will have many more because my family loves to have kids.
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  Speaker 2: And I have fourteen nieces.
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  Speaker 3: And nephews already, which is a joy to me and
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  Speaker 3: I'm very grateful for that. But I personally do not
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  Speaker 3: see myself as a mother. And I get asked this
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  Speaker 3: question a lot, particularly because I'm thirty eight years old,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think that it's an unfair or weird
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  Speaker 3: thing to ask someone if they want kids.
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  Speaker 2: When I date people, I ask them if they want children.
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  Speaker 3: If their answer is yes, that changes the course of
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  Speaker 3: the interactions that we're going to have, because I believe
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  Speaker 3: that if you want children, that is not something that
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  Speaker 3: you should compromise on. But I also would never want
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  Speaker 3: someone to make that compromise for me. So if I
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  Speaker 3: meet someone they want kids, that is where our paths
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  Speaker 3: usually end, at least as far as romantically, because I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't want someone doing that. And I also don't want
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  Speaker 3: someone lying to themselves about what they want to then
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  Speaker 3: later resent me for it. And I have this conversation
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  Speaker 3: with people a lot because people find it odd that
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  Speaker 3: I don't want children, so they're always like, why don't
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  Speaker 3: you want kids?
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  Speaker 2: And it's honestly.
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  Speaker 3: Just that I've physically never had the desire to be pregnant.
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  Speaker 3: I do not want the life that being a mother,
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  Speaker 3: an active mother, which is the only version of motherhood
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  Speaker 3: that I would ever want.
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  Speaker 2: Demands of you.
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  Speaker 3: I think being a parent is an extremely difficult, taxing,
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  Speaker 3: selfless thing to do if you are, of course, an
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  Speaker 3: involved parent, and that is just not what I see
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  Speaker 3: for my life. So physically I have no desire to
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  Speaker 3: be pregnant. I do not want to be a mother.
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  Speaker 3: And there are a myriad other social reasons and you know,
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  Speaker 3: personal reasons of why it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Appealing to me.
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  Speaker 3: But the main thing is, and the reason why I
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  Speaker 3: don't and the reason why I have not planned for
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  Speaker 3: it and will not change my mind, is because I physically.
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  Speaker 2: Do not want to have a child.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean I don't like children, and that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean I don't understand people making families. But what I'm
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  Speaker 3: running into recently at this point in my life is
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  Speaker 3: men who want to make a child, but they're not
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  Speaker 3: talking about building a family. So what I mean is
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  Speaker 3: I'm running into these men who I think, for some reason,
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  Speaker 3: there's been this this misconception put out on the street
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  Speaker 3: that I would be a good baby mama.
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  Speaker 2: This is incorrect.
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  Speaker 3: I want to clear I want to clear the air
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  Speaker 3: on thatd be a terrible baby mama. I'll ruin your
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  Speaker 3: fucking life. If I am a baby mama, I'm ruining
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  Speaker 3: your life. Your life is going to be terrible for
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  Speaker 3: as long as I'm in it. I want to be
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  Speaker 3: clear about that, to clear the air, because someone has
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  Speaker 3: put this rumor in the streets and it is untrue.
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  Speaker 3: I will not be a good baby mama to you
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  Speaker 3: or to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: I think that.
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  Speaker 3: There is this idea that, Okay, Joy, she's successful, she
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  Speaker 3: seems like she's got her shit together, she seems cool.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't have kids.
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  Speaker 3: It must be because she hasn't run into the right
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  Speaker 3: man who's convinced her to have a child. This is
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  Speaker 3: not true. This is not true. I fully understand people
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  Speaker 3: wanting to have children. What I do not understand is
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  Speaker 3: these men with these breeding kinks, who will come to
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  Speaker 3: me and say, oh, how are you gonna let those
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  Speaker 3: jeans go to waste? Or how could you not want
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  Speaker 3: to make a baby? We would have such a cute baby.
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  Speaker 3: Or if you don't have kids, who's going to take
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  Speaker 3: care of you when you're older? Or I really want
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  Speaker 3: to have a son so that I can carry on
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  Speaker 3: my legacy. All these things are very weird statements to me.
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  Speaker 3: What would be a rational statement to me is I
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  Speaker 3: would like to find a wife, build a home together,
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  Speaker 3: and then have a child.
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  Speaker 2: That is a statement that makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 3: Still not something I'm participating in, but at least I
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  Speaker 3: can respect the approach. But that's not the conversation that
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  Speaker 3: we're having. The conversation we're having is oh, I want
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  Speaker 3: to have a baby with you, and then when I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I think what you're trying to say is you want
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  Speaker 3: to marry me and then we could discuss having children
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, well yeah, I mean like we
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  Speaker 3: would get married eventually. So for you, it's more committal
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  Speaker 3: to marry someone than it is for you to make
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  Speaker 3: a human offspring child that you have to then raise.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think that for these men, it's in their
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  Speaker 3: mind it would be my responsibility or the woman's responsibility,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just an appealing thing to make a baby.
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  Speaker 3: This is beyond my comprehension or understanding. I really do
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  Speaker 3: not enjoy the converse, and I just implore people who
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  Speaker 3: are going down.
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  Speaker 2: This road that.
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  Speaker 3: We have to free ourselves of this idea that it
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  Speaker 3: is somehow more of a commitment to get married than
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  Speaker 3: it is to make a child. I just fundamentally do
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  Speaker 3: not understand that. It's very frustrating for me. No matter
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  Speaker 3: what you do in your life, you will be a parent.
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  Speaker 3: If you make a child. You don't have to raise
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  Speaker 3: that kid, you don't have to be involved in their life,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to live in the same continent. But
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  Speaker 3: somewhere on earth, you have a child. If you choose
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  Speaker 3: to get divorced, you don't have a wife anymore. How
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  Speaker 3: is that more committal. It's very strange to me, but
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  Speaker 3: this continues to happen to me. It's a conversation I
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  Speaker 3: have been having all year long. I think it's maybe
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  Speaker 3: because of my age. I don't know, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it's a wonderful, amazing, normal thing to want to have
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  Speaker 3: a child. I also think it's completely normal not to
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  Speaker 3: once have a child, and we should be able to
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  Speaker 3: have those conversations without introducing some weird kink about finding
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  Speaker 3: someone with the right jeans to make a baby with.
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  Speaker 3: Please stop saying that to people.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, It's time to get to Lorel love this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, My next guest is an incredible media
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  Speaker 3: personality and recording artists.
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  Speaker 2: She currently hosts three shows.
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  Speaker 3: She's a Working Woman, The Morning Hustle, Listen to Black
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  Speaker 3: Women for Madame Noir, and Live Wire for Hip Hop Wire.
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  Speaker 2: Loreel, welcome to Too Personal. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: So you had me on your show for bet weekends.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was a lot that weekend. It was
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  Speaker 1: a yeah, a lot. Sometimes I think la is a
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  Speaker 1: little blacker than it is because I come for weekends
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  Speaker 1: like that, and then when I come on regular weekends,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, where's all of our people?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? No, LA is very black?
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I see a lot of more Persian. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it is a very diverse.
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  Speaker 3: It depends on where you go, somewhere you go, but
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  Speaker 3: it's it's a very diverse city, so you can end
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  Speaker 3: up in places that are filled with certain communities.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, LA is black. La is black.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, see weekend isn't especially black, we get as
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  Speaker 3: we wanted to curry it to be, but there are
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  Speaker 3: certainly like black spaces to go.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm coming from Atlanta, so to me, that's like
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everything is relative. I guess when you when
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  Speaker 3: you comparing it to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: For sure a little different. But yeah, it was a fun.
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  Speaker 2: It was a fun interview.
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  Speaker 3: And I was talking about Aaron Rodgers, I believe on
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  Speaker 3: your show, which which has proven he's really proven me
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  Speaker 3: very wrong this year for my team. But we don't
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: want talk about Aaron Rogers. We're going to start the
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  Speaker 3: show like we always do, with a personal question.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to shout out my nephew really quickly,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Echoes who also plays on the Stailing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Brandon, my nephew plays with the Jets, which is
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. So funny. Okay, okay, I'm going to answer
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  Speaker 3: it with you. Okay, okay, So read it out loud,
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  Speaker 3: and if it's hard to read.
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  Speaker 2: What I can't read, what would say?
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  Speaker 3: If it's hard to read it, it's probably the one
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  Speaker 3: that I wrote with my handwriting.
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  Speaker 1: What's your drunk texts? Go to riz? I'm not I'm old,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know the new slang? What does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: So like when you're drunk texting? Like what's your go
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  Speaker 3: to flirt move?
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  Speaker 1: So when I'm drunk, I try to throw my phone
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  Speaker 1: in the river because I always feel so ashamed the
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  Speaker 1: next day. But I want to kill myself, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of those drunk texts.
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  Speaker 2: I always drunk.
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  Speaker 3: I drunk text the very wrong person that I shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: drunk text.
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  Speaker 1: But what is your what's your move? So what I
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  Speaker 1: don't have one. I don't have game, Like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: really good at that. I promise you I'll just hit
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  Speaker 1: them like you up?
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  Speaker 3: You do not I for promise you. I'm so's a woman.
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  Speaker 3: You really don't need more than you of that very
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  Speaker 3: effective move. I won't act like that's not in my arsenal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because like give me something, because now I feel
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  Speaker 1: a little bit whack, Like do does everybody have like
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  Speaker 1: as certain amount of things they say and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: the only one. Well, this is okay, this, this is me,
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  Speaker 1: this is my normal drunk I can't wait to hear
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  Speaker 1: it in process.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 3: Most people who are in the room behind the camera
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  Speaker 3: right now are laughing because they already know what I'm
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  Speaker 3: most say. I Am going to drop FaceTime, call someone
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  Speaker 3: and if they don't answer, I'm gonna call them and
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  Speaker 3: not like not a man like my friends, probably five
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  Speaker 3: hundred times.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, five hundred is crazy because.
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  Speaker 3: I'm exagerating, but I'm going to do it like twenty
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  Speaker 3: times until they answer, and if they don't answer, I'm
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  Speaker 3: moving on to the next friend until someone answers. And
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  Speaker 3: with men, I just get very very lovey Ah, that's
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  Speaker 3: really sweet day. It's not because I don't I don't
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  Speaker 3: you don't mean mean, you don't mean it what some
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  Speaker 3: of them I do.
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  Speaker 2: So you're no there is such a.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a strong word. Maybe I'm just exaggerating my feelings.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe there are feelings like one time, but.
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  Speaker 1: They're coming out of somewhere because they say what drunk
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  Speaker 1: mind sober thought?
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  Speaker 2: That's I don't believe in that I do. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: You believe what you say when you're drunk is what
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  Speaker 3: you feel and believe when you're sober.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because there's people that still don't speak to me
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  Speaker 1: today because the things I said to.
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  Speaker 2: Them when I was drunk. You mean drunk, did you
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  Speaker 2: do something to me?
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  Speaker 3: Ever?
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  Speaker 2: Like that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like if I'm suppressing a feeling when I get real drunk,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably gonna come out. So like there's I promise
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  Speaker 1: you there's one particular person I could think of that
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  Speaker 1: I said something to them when I was drunk, and
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  Speaker 1: I know how I felt about them deep down inside,
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  Speaker 1: but they won't tell me to this day what I
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  Speaker 1: said about them. We're not believe it with some bullshit
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  Speaker 1: now something probably very mean. I get mean, like when
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  Speaker 1: I feel like somebody has done me wrong, do they
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  Speaker 1: deserve it? But they might have felt sorry after they
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  Speaker 1: did what they did, But I still, deep down like
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  Speaker 1: felt like, fuck you. Like I don't really get over
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  Speaker 1: things like too easy. I hold grudges forever.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I'm a huge what's your son? I'm a Capricorn.
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  Speaker 1: No way, your birthday January seventeen, I'm the thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: I know I love grudges. All of this sounds like me.
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  Speaker 1: I was whatdering I was, yes because even the face
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  Speaker 1: time thing, I literally did that yesterday. I was facetiming
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  Speaker 1: all my friends and then when they tried to FaceTime
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  Speaker 1: me back, I'm like, why the fuck are they facetiming me?
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  Speaker 3: It's like, no, I love grudges because here's the thing
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  Speaker 3: about grudges. People will say that having grudges was a
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  Speaker 3: bad thing, but I just disagreeed one of the My
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  Speaker 3: grudges don't drain me, okay, Like they don't keep me
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  Speaker 3: from being positive or being happy. They don't keep me
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  Speaker 3: from like doing better. But what my grudges do are
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  Speaker 3: remind me of mistake same or remind me of decisions
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to make anymore. And so if I
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  Speaker 3: fundamentally for me, if I forgive people.
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  Speaker 2: I am letting them off. And I don't think that's.
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  Speaker 1: Right me either, now, don't I know they're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: something else too. Yeah, like I'm waiting for the other
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  Speaker 1: shooted job. So if I bring you back around after
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  Speaker 1: you did some bullshit to me, be careful, That's what
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  Speaker 1: I would say.
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  Speaker 2: You're setting them up.
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  Speaker 1: No, because it's not even that I'm setting them all
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  Speaker 1: the way up. It's like I literally don't believe in you.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like you might be around just because I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: God wants this for some reason. This person keeps coming,
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  Speaker 1: so he wants me to learn a lesson more or something.
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  Speaker 2: I promise you.
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  Speaker 1: But I do feel like the people you let back
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  Speaker 1: around will go harder for you if they like did
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  Speaker 1: something wrong to you and they didn't mean too, if
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  Speaker 1: they didn't mean to. But sometimes that's just their character.
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  Speaker 1: So they're going to do something again.
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  Speaker 3: This has been an ongoing thing for me for most
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  Speaker 3: of my life, and I've made the decision to shift,
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  Speaker 3: and it's hard for us to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I've made the decision to shift today.
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  Speaker 3: He actually, I because well, because I've.
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  Speaker 2: Been trying to find a way.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really bad with boundaries and I am even though
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  Speaker 3: I'm you know, saying I hold grudges and stuff, I
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  Speaker 3: do give people lots of chances. You literally sound like
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  Speaker 3: my twin. This is scary, we are twin. I give
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  Speaker 3: you lots of chances so that when I'm done, I'm
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel nothing for you. I have drains all
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  Speaker 3: of my life energy to to give you, and I
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  Speaker 3: just can't be that way anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to say anything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you tell fut I have to.
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  Speaker 3: I have to start like you get one chance, you
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  Speaker 3: get one chance, and even if it kills me in
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  Speaker 3: my nature to cut you off after the one thing,
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  Speaker 3: it's what I have to do. Because people keep playing
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  Speaker 3: in my fucking face like I won't stab you, and
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  Speaker 3: it is eventually I'm gonna run to the end of
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  Speaker 3: my rope, like right, the fact that I haven't stapped
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  Speaker 3: anyone this year is nothing short of a goddamn miracle.
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  Speaker 3: So I can't keep putting myself in a position for
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  Speaker 3: people to keep playing in my fucking face.
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  Speaker 1: Because we like to help people, yuh so stupid, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why, like, and we keep doing it,
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  Speaker 1: and like my friends will come to me and be like,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta let people earn it, and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: see the potential in this person, and sure enough they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do something again and again. But you know what,
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  Speaker 1: it's like the straw that broke the camel's back. Cause
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  Speaker 1: they might do shit that I don't cut them off for,
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  Speaker 1: but it'd be the stupidest thing that makes me ultimately
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  Speaker 1: cut them off and they're like, I didn't even do
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  Speaker 1: anything that bad, and it's like, bitch, it piled up
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  Speaker 1: like it was a pile of shit and then you
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  Speaker 1: put a torch to it and now we're done. So
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: it's like I do feel like we do give a
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: lot of chances. Done is done, though I'm talking about
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: like I there's no fucking way I can ever like
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: you again or anything once I really finally cut you off,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: and it takes a lot, It takes a lot. So
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the boundary thing, I feel like is what I'm learning
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: right now. I'm putting up a lot of boundaries lately,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm like finding myself being by myself because I'm like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: nobody likes a boundary.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, you know what, I saw this threat.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I wish I could remember who said it today. But
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: it's like you really find out who people are when
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: you don't give them what they want. And I really
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: felt that because everything you're saying is exactly how people
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: are with me. And what I've found is because it's
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: like the straw that broke the camel's back. Those people
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: get angry that I've cut them off, and then they
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: want to like turn on.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Me, like hold up, bitch, you remember that body? Did
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I let you bury in my backyard?
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: And then I'm telling you and now you've turned on
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: me like I should have let you cook Ben and
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Haken times before. And you're mad because I finally stopped,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: finally I stopped dealing.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: With your bullshit, and now I'm the enemy. Now that's
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: not what it is, you know. What it is.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: The resentment is that they can't be around anymore like
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: they want to be around, They want to be a friend.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: So it started tending into like hate. All you had
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to do is not be a dumb bitch. It is
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: so easy, Perriod or easy you forgot them into because
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's not just the bitch.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: The bitch is in this case and which case also
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: would apply to men.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I actually am really speaking, not not specifically
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: to relationships, but do you black people, oh, black people, Yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: a fucking course them.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: No I do something's wrong with me.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: No, once you get you get sent to haites, you
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: gotta stay there.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Something fel bad. You never feel bad. That's the bad
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: thing about me. Like I'll say I'll be for somebody forever,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and I really do, deep down have a problem with
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: them still, But then I'm like, damn, like I can't
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: just be this person, Like I'm like a sour patch kid,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like I could be very very mean, but deep down
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: like I'm sensitive and sweet, you're not.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I was just told that I'm a sour patch kid.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I am a sour patch kid, but you can't lick
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the sour off to get to this sweet.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I'm the reverse sour Patch Like.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sweet and then you keep fucking with me and
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: then I turned sour.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that mind goes like back and forth.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Well the thing with if I go as far as
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: to block you, like it's probably on site anyway. Yeah,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: so because I will, I'm also a great ignorer in.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Real life, are like, because I have black people in
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: real life, Like I'll walk past you. I saw you
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: posted that I'm dead serious, like I could have known
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you for fifteen years.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: If I'm to fuck with you no more.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I could see and I'll look through you like glass
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: like and I've done it. I literally just done it
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the other day to somebody and I didn't fel no
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: kind of way. And my friend was like, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: did you see and I'm like, no, I didn't see it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: There are definitely a lot of people that I could
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: see right now but and not not say a word
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: to and feel nothing about it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But they're gonna try to speak to you though they
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: should not do that. They should not do that. If
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you see or hear they do not do that, do
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: not speak to me.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I wants the opportunity to verbally assault a lot of people.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't come to be crying that chance. Like
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: if you're crying, like if tears running down your phone,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: well you'll never see me crying now.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Not you though, But I'm the person that did wrong,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like on their eyebrows, if their face was on fire.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I want to check on them if they're crying, if
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: they're crying about me, goodness, cry about me? Cry. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: wake up every day but feeling sadness.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if somebody's crying, it's just like I think I'm
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: telling you, I think I'm a little softer here. You
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: might be a little soft and we're starting to see.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okayo that you it's good that you are
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: that way. You should not go you shouldn't go full villain.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't gone full villain yet, but I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty close.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Do I give you this back? Oh, you don't have
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to hold don't think we don't want to put it back.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't sure. I didn't want to steal. So
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: it's going to take my paper.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: So you work in an industry where you talk to
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: do interviews with a lot of different people. Have you
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: found lately that people are not as open.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I think that with.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Me, there's like a reputation that some people just automatically
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: think unless you really know me, You're like, she's cool,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: she's gonna like, we're gonna have a fun interview because
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I like to laugh and joke a lot. But then
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a tough question or two, Like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I got to do my job at the same time. Yeah, So,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: like they like to use a word messy, which I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: don't like that because I feel like I'm very direct
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and like I'm gonna ask you what I want to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: ask you to me MESSI is like some of the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: men that act like they're not messy in journalism and
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: then like they be doing the messiest thing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Like I love him. This is like my brother.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: But Noriega, right, I was watching the interview with him
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and Dion Cole just what he was talking about Kay Sannat,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: but he didn't want to say Kaysona's name. Like Dion
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Cole was like, there was a streamer. He's young, and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: he's out there, you know, and he didn't really know everybody,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and now he's in the background like Cosanat kays Nat
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and he's like and then this particular streamer, he's like
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Kay Sannat. Now, if I was to do that, damn there,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: lose your job for something like that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: But when a man does.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It, it's just like, oh, yeah, this is a good interview. Yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton asks him everybody that he slept with.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: This is fun.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: And it's like if I ask about one person that's
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: like the most major relationship, they're like, this bitch asked
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: about offset date of being.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Married to Cardi b How dare she? And it's like
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: don't we all know this? Like isn't this but when
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I just feel like when it come to women are
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: specifically me in this space, it's always like, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: we gotta be a little more timid talking to her,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, please, I'm like the least of y'all
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: worries out here.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: You need to worry about these men. Do you feel I.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Mean people ask me this all the time, and obviously
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the answer is yes in the sports space, but do
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you feel in the like pop culture and music space
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that there is that double standard for women and men?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like they literally because I guess when
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it's a boys club, you can ask whatever you want
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: because you feel like, oh, it's locker room talk, barbershop talk.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: But then when you ask it, oh, now automatically you're
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: God's been your Wendy Williams your with shout out to
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Wendy Williams, because she definitely has paid the way for
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, not just women in this game.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: You know, like what they're doing nowadays is following.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Also, people talk a lot about Wendy like you weren't
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: watching everything she was doing and saying.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: We always watching it, like we there was things that remember,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: we knew stuff about puff years before because she was
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: saying it like y'all only knew that because Wendy was
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: saying it, so you obviously was listening to her too.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So I just think that it gets weird in the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: space when it becomes like a woman asking tough questions.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, When it's a woman asking the tough questions,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: they automatically go to like the gossip and messy. But
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: with guys' journalism, well, I think.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Whenever you come to do, especially if you have something
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: that you feel like people are going to ask you about,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: you should be prepared to answer that no matter what.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think that it's messy to ask about something.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: So for example, like when we would have athletes on
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: it or you know, anybody on who was going like
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: there's going through some sort of public thing. Yeah, if
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: they would say to me like, hey, I'll come on,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: but I'll talk about anything but that like I don't
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: want to have you on.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: So you'll turn them down.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if it depends on the format. Obviously, if
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: it's like a three question you know, super quick.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Thing like no cool.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: But if we're doing sitting down having an interview, like
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: you've got to at least be like, no comment, But
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: you can't put me in a position where I can't
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: ask you about the thing you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Know that happens to me on almost every interview. Not
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: just that, but then like all I just want things
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: taken out. I have problems with a lot of people
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: right now over questions that I asked that I took
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: out and nobody's even seen, so like, go to think
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: about that. Meanwhile, like I said, they'll go on other
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: platforms and be like, yeah, my grandfather fucked my and
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: it'll be like the craziest story you ever heard. And
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you're and you my grandfather fucked my girlfriend, and da
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: da da, and they're like and it's fine, you know
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: what I mean. But with me, they're like have be
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: for years because I asked them a question about a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: book that they wrote and it's a ten chapters about
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: one person and I asked about the person and now
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they got beef with me Gez.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: So it's just like it just doesn't make.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Sense, you know what I mean to me, It's like
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you publicly wrote it in a book. I asked you
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a question because I read the book. It took me
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: like seven hours. Bro, Like of course I'm going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: ask about the book, like I just don't understand why,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like you said, if you know it's something public and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to give the grace by like not feeding
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: into it, and I'm like, Okay, you don't want to
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: talk about this, we'll take it out or we'll like
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: at this point, I started to let people know, like, look,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: were keeping this stuff in, so please mean what you say.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm still, like I said, because I'm not, like,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to ruin nobody's career at the end
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of the day, like I've been fans of these people.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I've been an artist for years.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I know how it is, Like I will take some
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: stuff out, but to have a whole grudge about somebody
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: or with somebody because they asked a question.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Like you should be media chained, I think it's it's hard.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel the same way, like it's hard
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to offer to take things out because I've had people
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: ask to take things out from this show and then
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you know, they were not as supportive of the show afterwards,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: even though I kind of did them. It was, in
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: my opinion, in a stupid favor because I really didn't
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: even need to come out and you know, it wasn't
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: that deep. And I do also try to remember, like
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: we're not saving lives, we're not saving souls, like we're
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: talking shit on microphones, So it's really not that deep
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day. But if you're going
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: to come and do an interview, and I can speak
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: to this because I have sat down in front of
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: plenty of microphones this year and people have asked me
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: tough questions and tough questions, and I have answered them
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: how I felt appropriate or how I wanted to. But
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: there was no version where I was sitting down thinking
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: they weren't going to.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Ask me that right.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: And for the record, I never said to any of
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: these people before or after about it, about it like.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and don't get it tisted there.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Everybody hownly thing I've ever I've ever reversed, almost because
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: they asked me about something that hadn't happened yet. OK,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So my question didn't my answer didn't make any sense
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: because it couldn't have been answered properly.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, properly.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: But I knew I was going to be asked about
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: things that I necessarily didn't want to talk about or
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: couldn't talk about.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think everyone has a thing or maybe
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of things that they feel like, oh god,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I gotta talk about this again. But like when you're
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in funding a public I just don't do an interview. Yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: that's nobody is making you.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Do an interview.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: You can always say no, or you can always say
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: not right now, but we'll circle back, Like you can
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: always decline the interview. But if you're going to go
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: and talk and want to promote all these things, especially
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: depending on the platform. Right if you're getting two questions
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: with someone on the red carpet, that's probably not the
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: time exactly, you know, But if you're sitting down for
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: an hour, you should be able to whatever whatever you
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: want to ask within reason, like be respectful too, or.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Just defend your work.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Also, I think like if there's there have been incidents
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: where there's been like controversial work done and it's like, oh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about that either.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: That's weird. Yeah, Like why don't you just ask me questions?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, that's what you have to do.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: At a point.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: You just have to just turn it around because it
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: does get uncomfortable and it's just like if you don't
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: want to, but I do understand certain artists it takes
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: away from what they're promoting, which I get that too,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Like sometimes if you're there to promote an album and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: everybody just keeps talking about everything else but your album,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I could see how that could be a little frustrating.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But that's why I have different platforms. That's why you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have different platforms, right, Like I have a new show
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that I'm on Live Wire, so it hasn't premiered yet,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: it's going to be like early December. But in that show,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: we're strictly talking about music, the creative process. We give
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you a chance to be able to premiere your record
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: there first, to perform your record there, and I break
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: down with everything with them, like, okay, you're in the studio,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: who's there, when did you pick the beat? What made
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you go with this concept? That's a total different platform.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So maybe if you're an artist that don't like to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: talk about personal stuff, that'll be a platform for you.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: So I feel like it is better to meet people
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: where they are because everybody don't Like I don't think
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna sit down with Andre three thousand and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: talk about messy stuff. You get what I'm trying to say,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: but he's also not that type of artist. But I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: feel like if you're like Blueface and you come to
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: me like, don't talk about Krashan, it's like, but they
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: do that, like they do that. Like I had an
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: artist last week. I'm not even gonna say what it is,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: because I really do like this artist, but he has
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: his child's mother in his video, and they were like, well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to talk about his child's mother and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: it's the brand new video that you're coming to premiere,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, so let's not talk.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: About anybody in the video. The video.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: This song is about her. And I'm like, all right,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: so how do I do this? But they're not pivot
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and just find another way and it still ends up
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: going viral, like it ended up going viral, so it
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: works out.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: But I get it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Just I think also it's the level of respect from
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the artists. If we have a relationship, if I met
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you before, if we've done things before, we've interviewed before,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: we have no problems, Like obviously they're gonna let me
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: ask a little more questions too. But some people, when
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: they go off that narrative, they just instead of trying
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to get to know you. Like I've been promoting a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: lot of these people's album with nobody asking me to.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It might just be because I'm like, let me support them.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I fuck with their music, y'all go get So and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So's album. Nobody, no label called me and told me
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to do that. So they don't hear those things. They
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: hear when you say something not so in a good light,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: or you're reporting on something, but this is in the blogs.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Like I tend to stick to what's in the blogs
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: whatever I see on my own. I've seen something at
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: your party the other night. I'm not gonna talk about it, though,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: you get what I'm trying.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: To say, because because that's not on the blog.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: But if it hit the blog, then I'm jumping on
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: the bandwagon, like of the blog, because that's.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: My job, you know what I mean, That's what I
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: get paid to do. Report. So much happened, We had
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: a good time.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: It was it was I don't know if I should
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: put them up. I ain't had a son in a while.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: You what do you think about the state. We're just
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: gonna move on from the park. You were like, all right,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: we're gonna listen as long as it wasn't me. What
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: do you think of the states of women's rap right now?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it female rap.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Oh it's a mess, right, but then it's also great
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: at the same time, Like we've never seen as many
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: females in rap, and I think that's what makes it amazing.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It's like you have have Atlanta rappers, you have New
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: York rappers. It used to be one rapper that was
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a female, and when another one came, they had to
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: be with each other.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Now you could be cool, you.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Could pick a side, you got team beefs.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Like, I like this exciting. This is what we've been
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: waiting for.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Like we had to deal with this with the men
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: for quite some time, like they didn't have day moment. Now,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it do feel good that you see like players listening
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to yk Nice and Pluto or Sexy Red or glow
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Rilla in the locker room. That's fire to me, Like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I love that. I think that it's perfect, Like I
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: wanted to keep coming. I do feel like some of
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it sounds very similar. But we see that with the
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: men too, so it's like.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Bring it, come, bring it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Do you what do you think of the critique that
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: when the women are only talking about sucks.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: How they say that about the men, like they only
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: talk about pussy. I do miss the days of like
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: being able to have like a lover's blind moment. But
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it's like, right now, do we really want to hear that?
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny and nothing.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I do want to hear that. So this is cunning party.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I am sad, We're all sad. I'm very sad. Yes,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sad.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sad, but I think because so this is my
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: this is my overall music take, like, this is not
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: just about female rap, which I totally agree with you.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: It is an amazing time for female artists in rap.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like music in general because we are sad
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: because there is so much going on, because there's so
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: much social like social justice movements, everything is going on
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: with the governments, everything is going on internationally, Like, there's
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: so much happening, and we're at such a breaking point
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: in our society and democracy. And I don't necessarily know
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that we have the artists to properly contextualize and galvanize
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: people in this moment.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: So you think we need like a fight power records,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I do, but not just like it's at different time.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: It is, But that's why I think it's essential. Like
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I think each each time, each era has had their mess, right,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you had the eighties, you had the civil rights movement
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: like you've had You've had jazz, like you've had these
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: these music movements in each part of our history that
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: we can look back on and see them as rebellion,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and see them as ways that young people came together
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to go against institutions that brought people in that weren't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: necessarily aware of the community, brought allies in because they
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: like the music and change their perspective on things. And
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and I do know, I do think there are some
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: artists doing it. I don't want to say there are
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: no artists, yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: But.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like I get it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I want to turn up too, obviously, mm hmm. You've
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: seen me do it. Yeah, we do that when and
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: we need to write. We need that release, of course.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: But I also think, especially for young people, we need
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: somebody to be serious.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I can see that, I can see you saying that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I just think that nowadays it's changed from being in
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the message to them being out and doing things in
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the streets. You get what I'm saying. So I do
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: feel like like the reason why right now, I respect
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: what NBA Young Boy's doing, but at the same time,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, come on, NBA young Boy, Like he
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: does something great and then he'll do something to like
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: go against the great. And what I mean by that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: is he I know some of it has to do
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: with a program he has to do, but he is
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: going place to place and doing to put the guns down,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: drives and stuff like that. He's going into these communities
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and I think, I like, that's what I love about him.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: But then when you go on stage in Atlanta and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you do something crazy after you just get like honored
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: by the city and you show like right where they
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: want you to look like you know what I mean,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: we look ignorant all over again. So it's like, I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: think that there has to be a different way. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: just I'm not sure if like because even if I
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: think about, like who was that Let's talk about sex, right,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: we like around the time when it was like a
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: sex like there was issues there where it was like
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: everybody wasn't using protect. A lot of people isn't using protection.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like I get that it worked. Then I
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: just don't know, like if that like how it could
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: be cool, how someone can make it cool because nowadays,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like the kids.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Ain't ain't like that. I don't know above like they're
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: grown Like it's not like.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: That extreme though, And I just think music throughout history
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: has found ways to cut through and it really depends
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: on like what the what the artists and there.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: In the community that they build.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Because like what was the last song though? Like that
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: made a change and like because even though a little bit,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I think what Kendrick did you think we gonna be alright?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Really changed something, Like I think it's an amazing song
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and I love Kenjack.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: People was like, let's not fight it because Kendrick said
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: we gonna be all right, And that's what I'm saying.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I think it has to be more than one artist,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Like I think it has to be a real movement.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: And maybe you're right, like maybe everyone is just too
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: spoiled because part of what I think the reason that
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: we're in the state that we're in right now is
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: because everybody got a little comfortable.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: That's right. Everyone got a little comfortable.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: With things being kind of okay, and Okay, we got Obama, Okay,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: we've you know, we got Kamala like we got we're okay, yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and then these motherfuckers came out the motherfucking ground like
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: undertaker fucking everybody should I.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Mean, but we knew what was coming. We just didn't
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: take it serious. And I mean black women did.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I higher we usual as serious, but everyone else didn't
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: take it serious.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But that's what I think to your.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Point about like maybe that maybe it won't happen even
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: though it's happened many.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Other times in history when it comes to music.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: It's because there was a need, like there was a
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: need for artists to talk about what was happening.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, during the Civil rights.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: You're hoping somebody, you know what I mean, like I
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: praise somebody come because that I think that's what's going
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to be. The whole grab is like how are they
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: going to be able to do it? We are getting
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to some bad times and I think people are not
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: taking it serious. I think people are streaming joking around
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: thinking everything is funny, but they're not realizing that we're
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: all in debt no matter if you have a good
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: job or not, because you're helping family, you're helping yourself,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you're helping people around that you're not making more even
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: if you do, you're spending so much more that it's
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: not balancing out.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: So it has to be a change.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: But think about it, Like I remember back in the day,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: we could talk about Jesse Jackson, Revenu Sharpton. We don't
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: have Like I could say to Mika Mallory, I could
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: say Stacey Abrams, like we had her on our latest episode.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: To listen to black women. But it's like, if.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I do a clip where I'm talking about who Stacey
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Abrams is sleeping with, that's gonna go super viral. But
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: we had a moment on there that everybody needs to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: pay attention to and listen to, and that's it. Don't
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: have that many views, but I promise you the moment
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I have another clip with her, that's going to drop,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: it's gonna make it go crazy. But that's because I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: question our black men going out and voting. And the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: reason why I did that is because I canvas in
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Dorham in the straight Hood in Atlanta.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I was with killing Mike.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I was with Mobilized Justice shout out to them, but
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I was going door to door in the project, knocking
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: on doors like yo, please, we need to go out
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and vote. And a lot of the people there were saying,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: like our vote don't count, like you know, they don't
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: care about this. No matter what we do, it's going
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: to be the same outcome, right, And now what's happening
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Snap benefits that don't affect me.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't I'm not on SNAP.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: That's affecting the people that just finished me that it
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't affect them, you know what I mean.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think they.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Really understood because any other time it didn't affect them
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that that greatly. They still was going to be poor
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and then the hood, you know what I mean. But
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: now you're poor in the hood and hungry and maybe
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: losing your house, and because he's trying to get rid
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of that too. We didn't take this stuff serious and
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: now we are dealing with it, but not even to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the great capacity. It's going to be way worse. This
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: is year one, this is the first year. So it's
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: like we need a song, a prayer, a leader. We
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: need the Black Panthers to come back like.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: We need it. We need it all.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: We need a white paralyze at this point, I don't
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: know like we like I'm telling you.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: We need name White Wolf for you know, we need
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: all of it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, because we didn't take it
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: that serious?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yes, did you need Project twenty twenty?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I don't like you gonna lie, didn't I didn't read it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Did we really take it serious? I didn't vote for him,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: but did we really take it that serious?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody took it that serious. Yea. And
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: they continue to not take it seriously.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: And it frustrates me when you say that people don't vote,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: because to me, everything that's happening right now is was
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: plans right, Like, the education system has been deteriorating for
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: years on purpose. People can't read. People's attention spans are
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: shorter and shorter. I mean, we don't have the same
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: TikTok that there are in other countries because other countries
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: value education and they don't want their.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: People and I TikTok, Yeah, that's education.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: And also, you know, people who have no background in
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: what they're talking about whatsoever, ranting and raving and starting
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: whole movements based off of nothing, and it's all designed
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: to make us dumb. We'll make y'all dumb because I'm
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: not dumb, and I could be dumb if I leaned
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: into it. But I actively want to be educated in things,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: and I don't know everything. I know very I know
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: a whole lot about it, very very little amount, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I'm very willing to listen and learn more whenever real
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: facts and information are put in front of me. But
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: we're in a post post truth society, and what I
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: really believe, unfortunately, is that people have to literally suffer
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: like there has. We are too comfortable and people have
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: to suffer in order to understand that these things have
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: consequences that we can absolutely slip into a dictatorship. It
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: happens all over the world all the time. People's governments
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: flip influences and billionaires control everything. We're not too big
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: to fail in that way, and it can get horrific
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: and motherfuckers kill each other. Human beings are horrible. We
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: are horrible to each other. Yes, we are absolutely super
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: bad like read any book ever where, are really bad
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: to each other. It can absolutely get that bad. And
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: it's just this apathy of like like you said, like
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: this doesn't affect us, Like no, it doesn't affect us
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: until you can't vote.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Go like this this dying.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I'm a heavstage junk.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Okay, perfect.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel you now.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Now, it's just when your back is against the wall,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, that's when you really do
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: fight the hardest. So it probably is gonna get worse
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: before it gets any better. But we've always had it bad,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and we're always the one affected, and that's.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Why, that's why we always took it serious.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: And we voted, and by we were talking about black
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: women and fy, we.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Did get out and vote. Black men did get out
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and vote as well. But we needed everybody not as much. Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: we needed every single like her laugh. Yeah, they It
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: was a little annoying, but.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I read I read this though, and I can't can't.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't really need to start taking screenshots of stuff
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: so I can give people credit. But they basically said,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: like Republicans care about winning, so they don't care if
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: their candidate is the worst person that ever lived.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: They'll stick together. They're gonna vote for their candidate.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Ye.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Democrats like, how long? So much? Yeah? I like her husband.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Shit what she did as a vice president for Israel
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: as the vice president.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And no nothing and a lot of people vote, like
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: when she did her job in San Francisco, Who gives
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: a fuck?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: What you like, you're not voting for your to the person.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: You're not voting for the person who's gonna get you
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: into heaven. You're voting for the next president of the
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: United States. And unfortunately, we are in a two party system,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: so you either pick the side or that side. So
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: pick the side that most closely aligns with your morals.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: So what's gonna put money in your pocket? What's gonna
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: protect your interests? It's that fucking simple. And what it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: become is this famboy club. I'm sorry, I'm just not
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: a groupie. You fucking slobbers will drag your knees across
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: the fucking coal of dirt over these people. Well, what fuck?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: What if something happens to Bill Clinton? Why the fuck
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: do I give a fuck about Bill Clinton? Baby, I'm
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: not a groupie. You are not identify. My personality is
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: not centered around a political party. That's you.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: You're the lame. These people are crazy.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I am a complex person. I don't give a fuck
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: about this shit. Who is going to most closely align
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: with what I want in the future?
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Period?
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Fuck if I like their hair or their fucking shoes,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Losers?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Remember I remember being stuck in the house, right, because
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: this is what this guy did. I remember losing money
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: out my paycheck because we were in the middle of
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: a pandemic and nobody knew the fate of what was
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: going to happen. And I know that was all underneath
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration, and there was no way that I can, like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about annoying. He's funny sometimes though,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: like when he like get the roasting people, but he's
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: annoying at the end of the day, Like, this is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: not a Comedy Central. Now, if this was a roast, okay,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I might pick him for that because he do he
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: do be jabbing. But at the end of the day,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: if we're talking about somebody that I want to control
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: my future, it's not going to be a reality TV star.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: But that's that just shows how weak minded people are.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Because when the first the first time he was up
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: for election, I remember having this conversation with someone and
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I was like why it was a black man, and
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I was like, why do you like him? And he
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: was like, well, I like that he's not a politician.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: And I was like, that's so crazy to me, because
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: if I needed my car repaired, I wouldn't take my
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: car to a pediatrician because I would take the car
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: to a mechanic. Why would I want to elect a
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: non politician to the office of the presidency.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: So wait, that means you wouldn't vote for like Steven A. Smith.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm having this because do people take my dear friends?
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: But I'm not.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Like, do people take that serious? Because I feel like
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: he's serious. I think he is serious. But when it
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: comes to Trump, people voted for him because they thought
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: a businessman was going to make them more money. Yeah,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: but the government is not a business. It's a government.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: It's not the same thing. And the first time around,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: when it was a failure, people did not register it
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: as the failure that it was because somehow we managed
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: to put everything back together somewhat, and yeah, they was
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: able to do that. Look, for the next three hours,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I could talk about all the failures of all these parties.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, they got us
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: at the house. I say that much. And we were
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: prisoners in our own home. We were stuck inside. Were
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: you in LA or where were you?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: So I wasn't really a prisoner because I would come
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: to LA. I lived in Atlanta, but I was not
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: at Magic City. I know that a lot of people
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: was outside still going went lou Williams shut down the bub.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Didn't They don't even have the pandemic.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So for me, I did like I didn't when I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: tell you, I didn't. So I lived close to family members. No,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: they were outside, but I'm not trying to make people sick,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and like I live next to older family members that
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: like they're literally not too far from me, and there's
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: no way that I'm going to be out with people
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and then putting their health at risk. So and then
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I had to be on air every day like I was.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: If anything, I worked the most during the pandemic because
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: people were like, oh can you do this interview? You're
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: at home, so you should be in you know, I
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: had a whole setup in my house and I did.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I like when lost my day in mind, I wasn't
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: going out like everybody else.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: But when it came to traveling, that was the best
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: time to travel.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Wasn't nobody sitting next to you even if but first
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: class was trash.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: You didn't have nothing to drink, there was no meal service.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, I can't just have a little wine
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: like you had to bring.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: A nip on a plane. But like you had to
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: wear the mask. Yeah, you had to wear the mask
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: and all that. But like I say, I was, I
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: was a mask where but the plane thing was too
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: much for me. Yeah, no, we got to drop these.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I'll say, you wouldn't get on a plane with the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Oh no, of course, Well, oh yeah, because you didn't
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: have a choice.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: That'll be ready to I gotta be able to fly byby. Yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I got places to go now. I was gone everywhere.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I was out here with no flight tents. Whatever y'all
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: need was sit here.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So the worst part was eating outside. One time I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: was out here was one hundred and six degrees. I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: was at Chaconi's dying in my pasta.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Because I needed a drink served to me so bad,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Like you know.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: That was That was a hard part for me as well.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I don't I hate reminist smoke, COVID. I just never wanted.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I can't. I cannot believe that. I'm tired thinking like
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: maybe I also feel like we lost just lost two years.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I always say I'm two years younger than I am.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Should I start doing that, yes, because it's not fair.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Give me my time back like that was like my prime, Like,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: it's no way I'm letting you date during the pandemic.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: During the pandemic, did I date? I didn't at only
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I made some terrible decisions during the pandemic. Oh my god,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: that's why I did. I've forgiven myself. It was a pandemic.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I was my right mind.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Girl.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I thought I could sing. I could be accountable for that. Guy,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Did you put out a single? I recorded?
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Its one of the most embarrassing moments in my life. I
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: recorded a myself singing of Fleetwood mac And on my
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: phone and I sent it to my girlfriend's is a
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: voice note.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know, guys, I think
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I think I got this, And.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: They all at once were like, it's time for you
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: to go for a walk. Have you tasted fresh air today?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: You need to go for a walk now.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I did everything that was video editing, like I figured
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: out I wanted to learn Spanish, like I was shrying
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: everything like.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I cannot sing, which I already knew. I already knew that.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to see the video.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I've looked for it, actually because because I I've told
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: the storymade so many times and I kind of want
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: to hear how bad I sounded, like in my brain,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I can sing. But the point is my dating during
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the pandemic reflected me.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Really no, I feel like I was really I've been
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: like very focused on my career, like for the past
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: five years because I didn't do radio, like I was
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: an artist. That was what I was focused on. And
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: then like something changed and I had to like change
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: everything and I started like helping with my friend with
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: her podcast or whatever I was producing first. And I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: promise you when I feel like when you're older and
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you decide to change your career, especially being a Capricorn,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and how like career driven I am, I didn't really
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: have really time to date like a bunch of guys.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Not to say that I didn't.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I talked to guys here and there, but like I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: dated one guy and he took my focus like a lot,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and it made me realize that, like it's not time
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to be dating like that. So I will go out
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: on dates here and there, like I'll go to dinner out,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: but like, oh even now, even now, like for the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: past five years, like like I said, I had one
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: serious relationship in that five years, but like outside of
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that it's been you. Really, It's like catch me if
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you can, because my schedule's crazy. I do the morning show,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: so I wake up at four am and then I
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: do other things and I help everybody. So like sometimes
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I get two hours to sleep a day. I do
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: not want nobody in my face. And in two hours
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you think, like I talk for a living. You think
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I want to go home and talk.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: It is a thing that is It's a very difficult
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: part of this job when you have a partner or
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: you're dating someone for them to understand that when you
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: get home you don't want to talk.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to talk at all. I don't
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: want to say nothing word.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want to It's like you got to catch
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: me on the phone in the car on the way
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: home because when I want to talk, when I want
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: to talk, because the second car hits parked, I'm not
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: saying words for the rest of the night.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: And like I will look at you call me too.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I do that all the time because I'm Jane. And
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: like sometimes I think that my moment is on the
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: plane because I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be on a plane.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I got four or five hours to myself and I
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: be so happy and it never fucking fails. I don't
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: care if it's the flight attendant, the motherfucking next to me.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: They always talk to me the whole fucking flight.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: I can have ear pods that it could be an oh,
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: white man, a young it don't matter.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: It could be an Asian person that barely speaks English.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: They're talking to me, and I'm like, I must have
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a talk to me face.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe gonna work on your bitch face. I be trying,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: but some people say I look mean, so I don't
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: gold old person. No, it's certain about me that look friendly.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Lie because I don't. I do my best and all
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: look friendly. But I also short, short talk people. And
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: let's listen. You can always say hello to me. I'm
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: gonna say hello, but we're not talking the whole flight.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Don't say hello to me because we be talking the
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: whole time, like please do you?
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: But you ask follow up questions.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Now, I just don't like to be mean because every
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: time somebody say like, I'm just not mean, like and
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: it's so you don't have to be mean, but may
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: be looking desperate for like a conversation.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I know that you did you like a rising cancer
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: or something. Now you know it's crazy.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: One time I was coming from parents this is sick,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and the guy was sitting next to me. I was
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: in first class and his wife was sitting behind. This
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: motherfucker starts showing me pictures from his trip. I swear
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to God, this is how much people talk to me.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Mind you, we just came from the same place. Here's
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the Eiffel Tower, here's.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: A cost exactly. And I'm like, last night he was like,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: and now we met this person here. And then I'm like,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: y'all talk to your wife. Bro, do y'all want to
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: switch see?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, I've been talking to her all week.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, now, why isn't my turn?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: This is my night bear, But this doesn't happen to me.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I worked so hard on my fuck off face that
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: it's not that I want you to fuck off, but
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I just don't want to talk to you.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I have ear pods in and everything, and they will
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: talk to me through the AirPod.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: It's never do you get the cans. The cans no,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: but I'll get those. I promise you had stuck going
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: to talk to me. It's sickening. It's never when I
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: tell you, never fails.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: You gotta get on with the wrap. And so okay,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: I plugged this to everyone. I'm not gonna get keep.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: It's called the Pluto helmet. I got it off TikTok
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: and I don't buy a lot of things on TikTok
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: okay because that's a rip. But this is amazing. And
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: it's like a hood and the neck wrap thing. So
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: you can just like walk in with the hood and
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: as soon as you sit down, just boo and then
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: all they can see is your little mouth.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that's suffocating yourself. No, it's nice.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: It's like a little bubble.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: It doesn't touch your face real It's the best thing
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: I've ever purchased.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: So maybe they won't. The Pluto, Pluto helmet, Pluto hood.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Have you seen this thing?
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Pluto pod. I've never heard of this or I seen
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: anybody with that on. It's you look insane. But it's
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the best purchase I've probably ever made.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: It. As someone who travels a lot, you'll probably see
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: me on a plane with this helmet thing on.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I want it now. This was great. That was Thank
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you so much for coming down.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: You can follow Loreo on Instagram at starring Loreo, spell Tiring,
• 56:07
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• 56:09
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  Speaker 1: Okay, would you like my bab although it was good though,
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  Speaker 1: you've been looking good in a gym girl.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks and you killed it for Halloween. Thank
• 57:04
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• 57:07
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• 57:10
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• 57:13
  Speaker 3: I'll make sure you go check out her show The
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  Speaker 3: at two Personal show on Instagram. This question is what's
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: the craziest thing you've found while snooping in a partner's
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: phone or home. I've found an open box of condoms
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: in the trunk of his car. We were together, we
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: were not using condoms, so you can imagine my shock.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: We broke up after that. Just to be clear, but yeah,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: that was pretty crazy. I've found a lot of things
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: snooping in my partner's phone and home that I disapproved of.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I will say though, at this point in my life,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: I would never touch someone's phone, and if anyone went
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: through my phone, I would immediately leave them. I want
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: no parts of living a life with someone where I
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: feel so insecure and feel so triggered and so upset
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: and trust them so little that I feel like I
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: need to do that. I've been there, and I just
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: cannot live in that space anymore.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It is so stressful for me.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I've been put into that state of mind by men
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: who have betrayed my trust and betrayed my love and
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: my body and my space so many times over that
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: it's driven me to that point because I'm not a
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: naturally jealous person at all, and I'm a naturally very
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: trusting person, and if I choose to be with someone,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: then I choose to trust them.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if you drive me.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: To the point where I'm going through your car, we've
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: lost the plot. But I was right, and I found
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: an open box of condoms, meaning there is like a
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: certain amount of condoms that are supposed to be in
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: the box, and there was actually an open condom wrapper
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: in the box also, So.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to say it wasn't his. It's so
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: the default lie, who the fuck else is it? Who
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: else does this belong to?
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: I think he actually tried to say it was mine,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: like I put them there?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Crazy.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, I don't live like that anymore. But
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: let me know what you found in the comments.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Great question.
• 59:56
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