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Miguel Maduro: Former Chair of FIFA’s Governance Committee on the Gianni Infantino saga, Kevin Lamour dismissed as FIFA COO · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Infantino. This is FIFA getting a bit of utu, getting
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  Speaker 1: a bit of retribution. FIFA has sacked senior official Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Lamore after he criticized Infantino's plan to sell part of
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup to investors, which well, no one really
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  Speaker 1: liked now being dropped, but Lamore has accused Infantino of
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  Speaker 1: lacking openness and also intimidating staff. Comes as Scotland with
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  Speaker 1: draws its support alongside UEFA Asia the I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: name them, they're not supporting it. Miguil Maduro is former
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  Speaker 1: chair of FIFA's governance Committee, was brought in back in
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to clean things up, and he joins me
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  Speaker 1: live Miguil, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: The question is whether Infantino should even be eligible to
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  Speaker 1: run for president again. Should he? He shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's rather clear in Article thirty three, paragraphs
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  Speaker 2: two of the FIFA Status that no president can serve
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  Speaker 2: more than three terms of office. He's running for his force,
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  Speaker 2: so I think that makes it tangidly clear that he
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be allowed to run again.
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  Speaker 1: And he's trying to get by on a technicality. Right,
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  Speaker 1: he's saying his first term was only two years, and
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  Speaker 1: you're meant to have three four year terms. Therefore he's
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  Speaker 1: short and he's due another one.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that is what is invoking, But there is no
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  Speaker 2: basis in the text of the rule or the purpose
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  Speaker 2: of the rule for that. The text of the rule
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  Speaker 2: makes dis no distinction between whether the terms take four
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  Speaker 2: years or three years. It also doesn't distinguish whether he
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  Speaker 2: was elected. The president is elected in an extraordinary ordinary Congress,
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  Speaker 2: so there's no textual basis on the rule to make
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  Speaker 2: such a distinction. But furthermore, and perhaps even more importantly,
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  Speaker 2: he clearly goes against the spirit of the rule. When
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  Speaker 2: the rule was adopted in twenty sixteen, when they were
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  Speaker 2: trying to reform FIFA already, then it was clear the
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  Speaker 2: objective was not well presidents to be present for more
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  Speaker 2: than twenty twelve years, so not to allow people to
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  Speaker 2: be present for as long as the other lange I've
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  Speaker 2: been president or beletter, I had been pleasure as president,
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  Speaker 2: and if in continue is allowed to run again, you
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  Speaker 2: will be present longer than platter. So it clearly goes
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  Speaker 2: against what was the spirit of the rule itself.
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  Speaker 1: Miguel, you were born in twenty fifteen, as part of
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  Speaker 1: a push to clean it up, to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: the corruption within faith. What's what's Infantino like? We hear
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  Speaker 1: a lot about him. What's he like?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I as the chair of an independent committee, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't important to me not to have a very close
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  Speaker 2: personal relationship with it. So my relation with him was
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  Speaker 2: mostly institutional. But if someone that gets into the room
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  Speaker 2: and he sees is an odd mixed step, it's in
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  Speaker 2: someone that is you see, it's shy, but at the
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  Speaker 2: same time once very much to please everyone in the room.
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  Speaker 2: But I think above all the problem, and for me
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  Speaker 2: this is important, is not Infantina himself. In continue should leave.
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  Speaker 2: He should not be allowed to run again, as I said,
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  Speaker 2: even because the rules determined that. But FIFA has much
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  Speaker 2: deeper and structural problems. If we simply replace Inventino without
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  Speaker 2: changing the governance of FIFA, we will end up having
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  Speaker 2: someone else that will be like Inventino or even worse.
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  Speaker 1: You've described it as a political cartel with no scrutiny.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so basically FIFA claims to represent it different stakeholders
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  Speaker 2: of football, but in fact it doesn't is dominated by
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  Speaker 2: a corporal of people of insiders that select who comes
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  Speaker 2: after them to a large extent, where many categories of
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  Speaker 2: stakeholders people related to football are not represented or not
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  Speaker 2: properly represented, from women to supporters, for example. And in
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  Speaker 2: addition to that is then not subject to any effective
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  Speaker 2: mechanism subjects and balances, and independent than accountability. So these
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  Speaker 2: two things make it severely flawed in governance terms.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like the Kremlin.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like any authoritarian regime with a high degree
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  Speaker 2: of concentration of power that is, moreover not subject to
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  Speaker 2: any formal accountability.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you for that. Mcgammaduro, former Chair of
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  Speaker 1: Faith as Governance Committee. For more fam Earlily Edition with
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