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INTERVIEW: Sherri Shepherd Talks 'Angel in the Rubble,' Becoming The First Woman To Play Genie On Broadway's 'Aladdin', Drama & Comedy, Dating + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up.
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  Speaker 2: Every day I wake up.
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  Speaker 1: Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y'all finished or
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  Speaker 1: y'all done?
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  Speaker 3: Morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: It's DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are
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  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club. Lawn LaRose is here as well. We
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  Speaker 4: got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. She came in like the Terminator.
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  Speaker 2: That's what she said.
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  Speaker 1: Dressed all in black, leather jacket, shades on.
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  Speaker 2: Looking good.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you don't have a job. You got to elevate.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Sherri Shepherd. You're welcome. You've been outside, though.
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  Speaker 3: I've been seeing you everywhere. I've been seeing you with
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  Speaker 3: your son.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen you at premieres. We've seen you at Essence.
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  Speaker 2: You've been outside, though. No, no, here's the thing. When
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  Speaker 2: you get let go from your job, you got to
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  Speaker 2: be out there in the streets because you got to
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  Speaker 2: show people, I'm here, I look good, I'm employable. But
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  Speaker 2: you never stopped hustling.
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  Speaker 1: You always did stand-up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm always hustling.
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  Speaker 1: You're always in a movie or something.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Always had several jobs. But that's why, because I hustle.
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  Speaker 2: I never stay in one job and sit in complacency.
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  Speaker 2: I'm always looking at the next thing. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: how we have to do as brown folks. You always
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  Speaker 2: have to look at what's next. You know, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: always on my team. Don't get complacent just because I'm
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  Speaker 2: going on cool and going, hey, family, because that stuff
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  Speaker 2: could be pulled out from under you in a minute.
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  Speaker 5: Do you ever get to the point, though, where, because
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  Speaker 5: I feel like when I think like that, it gives
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  Speaker 5: me like an anxiety feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Like, when do you ever just enjoy what you're doing?
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  Speaker 2: I do. I enjoy it. I'm always present. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: love what I do. You know, you get disappointed. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when they took the show, I was devastated.
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  Speaker 2: And you did call me Lauren. I was like, oh. Hello?
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  Speaker 1: She called me nosy.
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  Speaker 2: She was not trying to give me no time. No. No,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let me tell you about Lauren. She was like,
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  Speaker 2: because I was like, hello? I'm just feeling, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, is this on the record?
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  Speaker 2: And she was like, she said no. And you didn't.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't say anything. But, you know, you're present. You
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  Speaker 2: have a good time. But when it's over, I don't
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  Speaker 2: sit in it. I go, what is next? And probably
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  Speaker 2: it's because I'm a mother, too, because I got to
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  Speaker 2: pay for it. for all of this stuff for my child.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta pay child support. So it's those kind of
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  Speaker 2: things coming in my head. I'm just, I'm used to working.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's nothing to take personal, though, because,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you canceled a bunch of daytime talk shows.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that format, it might have ran its course.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe we have to do it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit different, but they say that with everything, Charlamagne.
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  Speaker 2: They said that with soap operas. They canceled a whole
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  Speaker 2: bunch of soap operas. And look, soap operas are back.
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  Speaker 2: Beyond the Gates has gotten nominated for all of these Emmys.
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  Speaker 2: And I think things come back around. They said that
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  Speaker 2: there would never be a single talk show host because
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  Speaker 2: there was a time when I was trying to get
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  Speaker 2: a job as having my own talk show. And they
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  Speaker 2: were like, we don't do single. We do panels. And
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  Speaker 2: then now you see all kinds of just singular. So
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  Speaker 2: everything goes. It comes back full circle. So maybe not now,
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  Speaker 2: but it'll come back around.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a cheaper way to produce them. And
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  Speaker 1: I think they have to be live.
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  Speaker 2: I think that there are some people who they want
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  Speaker 2: to see it on TV. They don't want to watch
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  Speaker 2: a podcast. There's six million podcasts around. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people have approached me about doing a podcast. I already
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  Speaker 2: have two podcasts out. It's hard work. So I like
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  Speaker 2: doing a talk show the way I grew up with them.
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  Speaker 2: So right now it's just, you know. I got to
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  Speaker 2: do it for four seasons. It was amazing. I have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of ideas that I want to do, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's not the time.
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  Speaker 3: What do you miss the most about it?
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  Speaker 2: You know, being able to give a platform to people
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  Speaker 2: who would not be able to have a platform. Being
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  Speaker 2: able to have the power to say, you can come
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  Speaker 2: on my show, even when I got pushback. Jane Kennedy
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  Speaker 2: was trying to write a book, and nobody would give
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  Speaker 2: her a book deal. And I said, John Murray said
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  Speaker 2: to me, you should say something. And I was able
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  Speaker 2: to say, y'all know Jane Kennedy. Those who know, know.
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  Speaker 2: She need to write a book. Y'all, somebody give her
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  Speaker 2: a book deal. And she got a book deal. And
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  Speaker 2: she credits me with doing that. So being able to
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  Speaker 2: do that, have Kiki Shepard. on the show from Showtime
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  Speaker 2: at the Apollo to give her her flowers. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when I hear something, when a scandal goes on, to
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  Speaker 2: be able to call and say, would you come on
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to do it with love. So being
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  Speaker 2: able to meet people and, you know, folks that I
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  Speaker 2: think are icons, that's what I miss. Being able to
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  Speaker 2: give that platform. Top three guests that you enjoy? My
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  Speaker 2: top three, Michelle Obama, Oprah, just... and Whoopi. I know
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  Speaker 2: there's somebody white in there. Hannah Wadsworth. Somebody white in there,
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: But that's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, people that I've always wanted to interview, being
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  Speaker 2: able to say, I got a talk show, come on
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  Speaker 2: and talk to me. People that I was in lust with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I could sit them across the couch from
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  Speaker 2: me and that was cool too. But it just was,
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  Speaker 2: that was always my dream. It was always my dream
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  Speaker 2: to have a talk show and I did it well.
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  Speaker 2: That's the one thing I can say. I did it well.
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  Speaker 2: I was the only one who would do stand-up. right
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  Speaker 2: from the get-go. They do that at nighttime, the boys.
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  Speaker 2: I did it in the daytime. So I know what
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  Speaker 2: I brought. Girl from your wardrobe. You gonna miss me?
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  Speaker 6: Your wardrobe, your hair, everything. You were so cute sitting
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  Speaker 6: up on that couch. I just wanted to give you
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  Speaker 6: your flowers for that too.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, girl. And the fashion. And the hair. All
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  Speaker 2: of that. You were so cute.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: So shout out to your stylist and, you know, Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Harrison Crite, thank you so much. He has styled me
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  Speaker 2: towards the end. So it was just amazing.
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  Speaker 5: When you came back and did your episode where you
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  Speaker 5: like addressed us and let us know like how you
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  Speaker 5: were feeling, it was really emotional for you.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, we talk, but people were like
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  Speaker 5: really upset for you. Like they felt like you just
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  Speaker 5: deserve to be able to like let us know like
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  Speaker 5: your people on your own.
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  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, it was one girl at Essence.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, I just want to fight somebody. I
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  Speaker 2: just want to fight. Here's the thing with like the
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  Speaker 2: difference between me and Jimmy Kimmel. Black folks will go,
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  Speaker 2: they will, they will ride for you. But if you say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, go ahead and strike and don't watch the network.
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  Speaker 2: They like, wait a minute, reasonable doubt. It's on this network.
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  Speaker 2: You know, wait a minute, beauty and black. I can't be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they ain't going to cut off all their stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that people consider me, you know I'm
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  Speaker 2: a celebrity, you know I'm in a certain financial level,
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  Speaker 2: but I think people knew I was real. That I
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  Speaker 2: was sitting there, that I was your sister, I was
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  Speaker 2: your cousin, I was your auntie. They knew they would
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  Speaker 2: get real from me. And I think that that's what
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  Speaker 2: they related to me and I made a heart connection.
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  Speaker 2: Talk shows, people have to know that they could hang
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  Speaker 2: out with you, but they also want to know that
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  Speaker 2: you would hang out with them. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: that that's what I created. And they love that. And
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  Speaker 2: I was just real. You know, if I made mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: I just talked about my life. And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what affected people so much because it was a heart connection.
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  Speaker 7: What do you think you've learned about like not confusing
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  Speaker 7: the end of an opportunity with like just the end
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  Speaker 7: of relevance?
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  Speaker 2: You know what? I work too hard. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: think that when people come up to me, I was
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  Speaker 2: at the U.S. Open, and it was so many influencers.
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  Speaker 2: I just did not know their names. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're dead in that for next year.
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  Speaker 4: Next year, they're saying they're not inviting that many influencers
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  Speaker 4: anymore because it.
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  Speaker 3: Got out of hand.
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  Speaker 2: All envy. You know what? It's a whole other level
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  Speaker 2: being an influencer. You got to not care about nobody.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, excuse me, little young one. I
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  Speaker 2: want to see Coco Golf. Would you, like, move out
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  Speaker 2: the way? And she's like, ah! She kept doing what
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  Speaker 2: she was doing. And these influencers have teams of people
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  Speaker 2: with cameras. But I think that they kept coming up
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  Speaker 2: to me. I didn't know them, but they were like,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Sherri, you're an icon. You're a legend. I was
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  Speaker 2: getting mad because I'm like, I'm still here. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a legend yet. You are! You think you got a
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  Speaker 2: dad to.
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  Speaker 1: Be a legend?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a dad to be a legend. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a legend. You're a living legend. Yeah, say that.
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  Speaker 2: Say that. Like, Z-Way hugged me. And I love Z-Way. Like,
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  Speaker 2: she kept hugging me. I think I reminded her of
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  Speaker 2: her mother or somebody. Because she hugged me. She hugged me.
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  Speaker 2: She goes... this is such a mother-daughter moment. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, say auntie-niece. I'm getting at the age where
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear all of that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: mind auntie. Don't be calling me mom. But then I said,
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  Speaker 2: damn it, I actually could have. I actually could have
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  Speaker 2: somebody Z-Way's age be my daughter. But I love that
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  Speaker 2: all the influencers were calling me auntie. I don't mind auntie.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot of respect. It was a lot of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, respect. And they just regarded my wisdom. So
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  Speaker 2: as far as the relevance, I work really hard. And
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  Speaker 2: I think I've been in things and people see how
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  Speaker 2: hard I work. I'm not one of those ones where
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  Speaker 2: you go, Sherry's just lucky. I work hard. Even if
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  Speaker 2: you in bed with me and you feel my feet,
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  Speaker 2: you go, this is a hard worker.
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  Speaker 3: This girl be walking.
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  Speaker 2: And working hard.
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  Speaker 1: I like people who put people in position. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we all know John was the.
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  Speaker 2: Right, he was the executive producer.
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  Speaker 1: Because of you.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 7: So, you know, you worked on The View where you
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  Speaker 7: was one of several women on the panel, but then
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  Speaker 7: you had Sherri Sheppard's show. What's the leadership lesson nobody
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  Speaker 7: teaches you about becoming.
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  Speaker 1: Just the boss?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think people realize the behind-the-scenes stuff that you
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  Speaker 2: have to go through. I think that's why I defended
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  Speaker 2: Tyra Banks so much about America's Next Top Model when
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  Speaker 2: people got on her because you see what you see
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  Speaker 2: And you see it 20 years later or 10 years later,
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  Speaker 2: and it's very much different. People don't see the battles
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  Speaker 2: that we have to fight, the battles that a Tamron
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  Speaker 2: Hall has to fight or a Jennifer Hudson, because you
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  Speaker 2: have people who are at the top. They don't look
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  Speaker 2: like me. So they don't know the things that I
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  Speaker 2: know about our culture. And there's things that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and also I came following the queen, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: I haven't to prove myself that I was different with
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  Speaker 2: people who had produced a talk show for her. you know,
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  Speaker 2: I had to retrain everybody to think differently. And they, like,
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  Speaker 2: why are you bringing Dr. Bobby Jones on? We don't
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  Speaker 2: know who he is. But I know, and I know
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  Speaker 2: my audience knows who he is. And it's somebody that
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  Speaker 2: I admired. So that's the thing. I think people don't
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  Speaker 2: see the battles that I have to fight just to
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  Speaker 2: bring you, you know, what is relevant to the culture.
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  Speaker 2: That was, it was a lot of that. It was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that.
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  Speaker 4: How difficult was it for, as a mom, because you
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  Speaker 4: have a child, you just said you put him in college.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I did. Don't make me start crying.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen y'all on the train with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So how difficult was that, not being there and doing
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  Speaker 3: the show and.
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  Speaker 2: All of that? You have to, this is why it
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  Speaker 2: was harder for Kelly Clarkson. I think when you have
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  Speaker 2: small children and it's just you doing a talk show,
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  Speaker 2: it's very, very difficult. Jeffrey was when I got that
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  Speaker 2: Sherry show, he was 17 going on. I was able
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  Speaker 2: to leave him. at home by himself, because he had
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  Speaker 2: his unique challenges. So I didn't have to worry about
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  Speaker 2: him too much. But when you're doing it all yourself,
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  Speaker 2: I would get there early in the morning. I would
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  Speaker 2: be the one to turn off the lights at nighttime.
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  Speaker 2: So it's hard to have two little toddlers, and then
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  Speaker 2: your ex-husband dies, and then you're doing another show. It
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  Speaker 2: was very hard on Kelly Clarkson, which is one of
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  Speaker 2: the reasons why she ended her show. Her family was
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  Speaker 2: more important. As your kids get older, it's a lot easier.
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  Speaker 2: And you do need help.
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  Speaker 5: I had nannies.
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  Speaker 2: I had nannies helping me with Jeffrey. You just do.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't put him in daycare. So it got easier
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  Speaker 2: because he was older. The time was right. But as
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  Speaker 2: far as the leadership, I learned it was so nice
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  Speaker 2: to have my interns. I taught them a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different things. I taught them to the girls. I taught them,
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  Speaker 2: deepen your voice, because they would always come in and go, hi.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, people ain't going to take you seriously.
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  Speaker 2: Lower that voice. It appears as if you're confident when
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  Speaker 2: your voice is lower.
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  Speaker 1: What if that's not the irregular speaking voice?
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm like, I want to teach you
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  Speaker 2: how to adapt in this world that you have to
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  Speaker 2: move in. I wanted to teach the girl. It does.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I sound like a man right now. Barbara
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  Speaker 2: Walters taught me to lower my voice. I used to go,
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  Speaker 2: everybody take a little time to enjoy the view. And
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  Speaker 2: she was like, lower your voice.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: It makes you appear more confident. It does. And I
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  Speaker 2: would tell my I call them in my interns. I
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  Speaker 2: would tell them that I would teach them things. I would.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like people going around me who didn't smile,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and but they didn't realize. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: if I got a smile every day. I want to
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  Speaker 2: see some smiles because you're representing me. I taught them
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  Speaker 2: about being on time. We used to have one girl.
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  Speaker 2: She was always just getting there and late and falling asleep.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, but this is what people are judging you.
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  Speaker 2: And then she said, well, I'm going to curse them out.
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  Speaker 2: But she was amazing. She was brilliant. And we and
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  Speaker 2: I kept fighting for her. because I knew how brilliant
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  Speaker 2: she was. She just didn't have it on the outside.
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  Speaker 2: And I taught her how to do things differently, how
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  Speaker 2: to move differently, because she's brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: You kept falling asleep, you say?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, we had to change up our
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  Speaker 2: meeting style.
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  Speaker 1: She was bored.
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  Speaker 2: She was bored. So, you know, which taught me something.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I loved about leadership, really being able
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  Speaker 2: to teach these producers, especially, you know, our young black
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  Speaker 2: and brown ones, This is how you have to move
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  Speaker 2: in the world. This is how you, you can't take
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  Speaker 2: everything personally. You can't go curse people out. That's not
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  Speaker 2: the way we operate in the business world. Maybe back
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  Speaker 2: in sixth grade, you can go slap them upside the head,
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: but you can't do that. You can't go in their
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  Speaker 2: office and just be going off. It's not the way
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  Speaker 2: you would move.
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  Speaker 7: I just wanted to record the show. Men do not
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  Speaker 7: use the first two pieces of advice. Do not tell
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  Speaker 7: women to lower their voice. Do not tell women to smile.
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  Speaker 2: Now you go to HR.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Now you go to HR. You better not.
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  Speaker 5: Talk about changing up the.
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  Speaker 1: Lower your voice.
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  Speaker 5: Shut up.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to HR.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to HR. You're going to HR.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right. You know she got a fire.
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  Speaker 2: You know Jess got a fire. You know it. It's
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  Speaker 2: all recorded. You'll never fight back.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, hey.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Because you got the recordings. I didn't hurt him. I
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: heard the recordings.
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: This is a liability, okay? I'm trying to get all
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: the assets. But talk about changing up just like your content.
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: Because I remember one time reaching out about a story
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: I had broken and John was like, you know, we
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: love you, we support you, but we try to keep
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: things a lot more light and positive, which was so
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: different for that time space. Because, you know, Wendy would
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: get into her thing. Did you get pushback from the
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: network for trying to do that as well? Even though
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: daytime is light, we knew, okay.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. You know, it's like, because they were used to
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: dealing with Wendy. So it was a lot of, why
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: don't you do this? Because it'll go, we need viral moments.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: But I.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Also, I also have to consider I am an actress.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: I still have to work beyond this. Again, that was
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: where I was like, you know, I would like this
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: thing to last 9, 10, 15 years. But in all probability,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: it probably won't. And I still have to have a career.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: beyond this. So what it look like if I'm sitting
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: in a chair and I'm just use you Charlamagne and
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: I'm doing a scoop on you and I'm talking about
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: you and now the show in and you got a
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: big blockbuster movie that I want to audition for. Now
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm not working. I don't know
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: why I'm not going in auditions because Hollywood didn't close
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: up on me. That is what I do. I am
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: an actress. So I always had to consider, you know,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: what I was going to say about people, how I
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: could do it in a light way, how I could
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: do it funny and with love. Because I don't want
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: to go somewhere and then I'm too, you know, at
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: this age, I don't want somebody coming up to me going,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: I don't like what you said about me. Because I
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: don't remember what I said.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: But it's still your opinion.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. But it's still my opinion. But also,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: let me tell you something. Actors, entertainers, we all have
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: very long memories. Somebody could have said, you know this, Jess.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Jess knows this.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Jess knows this. I've seen it. It's like I'm sitting
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: there looking at the person going, Jess don't remember what
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: she said about, you know, we're comics. That's what we do.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: But people have long memories, and they will hold that
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: against you for the next 30-something years, and you have
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: moved on with your life. But didn't Brandy stop performing
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: for a long time? Because she said, I think I
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: remember her saying.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: We love it, man.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: We love it.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: In 30 years is the number. That's what Tommy Davidson
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: told you. You're a clown. Did he say that?
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: He said it, but it was about something else. It
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: was about something else.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: You're a clown, Sharika.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you, 30 years they remember, and I
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: always tell comics, don't sleep with the other comics. It'll
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: take you 10, 15 years to get your reputation back.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: We know this, don't we, Jess? Girl.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: Is that why you don't like, because you dress down
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: purposely on stage when you perform.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: I'm not revealing at all.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Because it's more women that come to a comedy club, too.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: You don't need to be, you want the women on
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: your side. You don't want the women. But I think
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I was saying about Brandon, I don't want to leave it.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I think I remember, I don't know. that one time
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: she stopped performing, she had anxiety because there was some
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: girls in the audience whispering about her. And that stays
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: You said Brandy?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I think it was Brandy. The fact that.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Brandy can hear people whispering is crazy.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Well, not, but you just see them. You could see
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the first couple rows. And I think, and it gave
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: her performance.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: If it's not Brandy, you just made up some shit.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: And I just made up some stuff which is going
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to go viral. Like, Brandy don't have enough! And here's
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: the thing. And now people that really like me, and
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: this has happened, I tell you. I have said things
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: which I thought was in love because I literally would
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: sit with Norman Baker and Brittany and the folks who
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: helped me craft my stuff, and I go, we got
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: to be tender here. And I thought I was tender.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And that's the problem with doing stand-up. I come out
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and say something, and they be like, so-and-so want to
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: talk to you. And I'm like, damn. And literally, I
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: have had phone calls from celebrities going, I saw what
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: you did. Who would tell me they love the show?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Until I said something. And they would call me and go,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I don't like what you said. And then I'd have
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to be like explaining, you know what, I'm just a comic.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: And they'd want to, even one celebrity was like, call
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: me and if you're going to talk about me, just
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: let me know. I ain't got that much time. Like,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I don't have, I don't, you got... five minutes to
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: craft a story and it's not that big of a
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: deal to me but but the person was like you
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: know if you just talk to me we could do
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: a whole thing about and I go that ain't funny
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: yeah and trying to explain myself it was really I
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: was it was happening and I was just like I
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: can't do this and one time I remember I called
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: a celebrity because I was going to talk about her
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: mother So I said, let me call and let her know.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about your mama. And she said, okay,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: what are you going to say? So I told her
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the jokes and she said, okay, well, I don't think
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: that's true what you're saying. And I go, but I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: a comic. So I'm kind of embellishing. Now, meanwhile, they're
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: going three minutes, three minutes. And she goes, okay, so
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: tell me everything you're going to say again. And I
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, I don't have... time to do it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And she said, well, let me call her. And I said, okay,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I just got, and I said it and everything was fine,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: but I said, I can't go through this.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Was she a friend or something though? No.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: It was somebody that I would see a lot. It
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: was somebody that I would see a lot always. So
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm going to talk about you.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: How many times have you had to apologize to somebody?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. And see, I'm not, I'm not one.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Like I remember talking to DL one time, DL Hughley.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And he said, I don't apologize for nothing. I say,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not that type of person. I never want anybody
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: to feel badly about, from something that I say. So
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I would, but I would try to explain. And that
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: wears on you. It really does.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Which is one person you apologize to that y'all made
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: up from there.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: We know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to tell because then they're going
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to be calling me again. So I'm just saying I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: did get those phone calls when I would, just in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: fun and just in a loving way. And let me
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: tell you, everybody who's called me, we've all made up.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: We're all good.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: But that's another thing I didn't want to go like
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: be an essence and run into somebody. And now you
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: going off on me and I don't know what you're
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: going off about because I don't care no more. So everybody,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: we're all good.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: You said, you talked about the Nia Long situation.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: We ain't running to each other.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: But you apologized, didn't you?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't apologize. I didn't say nothing wrong. Oh. No,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't say anything wrong.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Just making stuff up now?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: But see, again, but here you go.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Because Nia, there was some comments where she was upset, right?
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But here it is again. Like that happened so long ago.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember. She ain't thinking about me. I'm
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: not thinking about her. And now, again, it becomes viral.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: This is, you know. So that's why I say entertainers
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: have very long memories. Because people will ask. No, I haven't.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: But she's in L.A. At some point, we will run
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: into each other. And what I'm going to say is
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: we need to talk.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: We're grown.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Let's just talk so that we can both come in
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and say hi. Me and Kenya Moore made up. We
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: were both on Watch What Happens Live. And we couldn't
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: stand each other. We couldn't stand.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was just bad between us. The chemistry
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: was not good. Shady Boots, Andy Cohen was in there
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: stirring stuff up. And then she said something on G's
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Twitter and I said something back. But we started at
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: a Broadway show and it was like, we're grown. Why
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: are we doing this? We're very, very cool now.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Broadway, congratulations. Oh my goodness.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: What a segue.
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: The first woman to play the genie in any Disney
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: produced Aladdin in the world.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: In the world.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I can't even believe it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I've been starting. I've been taking my dance lessons and
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: vocal lessons, and I officially start my rehearsals next week.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I am working seven days a week. 10 to 6. Oh,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: my gosh.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Listen, so if you still had that show, would you
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: be able to do that?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I would not have been able to do this.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: So when you come in, you sit down and say,
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: for me not to have a job, listen, you always booked,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: and I love that you are on Broadway.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: What was that? When you're about to be on Broadway,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: what was that? Oh, my gosh.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: First moment was when he called you, like, all right,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: this is what he wants you to do.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: When they called me, because I had went in to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: meet with the producers for the Broadway show, Ann Juliet.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And I was so anxiety ridden. I had taken two
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: singing lessons. I knew it. Back five years ago, I said, Sherri,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: take singing lessons because something is going to happen. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I was just too busy. So I was like taking
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: lessons for that. They had wanted to see me. And
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: then they called. They wanted to cast a woman. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: they made the offer. Like, it wasn't even I had
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: to audition. They made the offer. So that's why I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: tell people, even when I go through anxiety, I go,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: they already know who you are. They know what you do.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: They know you're not a professional singer. They know you
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: got voted off Dancing with the Stars. They've done their research.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And they came to you and made the offer. So Sherri,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: walk in what God wrote. Don't spit in his face. Exactly.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And act like, you know, so I'm not a professional singer,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to be a professional singer now. So
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: it was absolutely amazing. And it was a dream come
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: true because I never really told people I wanted to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: do Broadway. I got to do it when I played
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Cinderella the Evil Stepmother with Keke Palmer. We did it
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: on Broadway. But I didn't have any solos. I think
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I got three or four solos.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Did you agree right away?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, right away. I was like, what?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Because it scared me. I do things that scare me.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I was so scared. I was like, yes, I'm going
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: to do it. The first solo, You Never Had a
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Friend Like Me, is about eight minutes long. It's singing, dancing, tap.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: It's all the stuff that I can't breathe doing. When
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I went and watched the genie a few weeks ago,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: he ran up and down them stairs. You know how
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I go up and down the stairs? I look where
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going. He wasn't looking. He just ran up and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: down the stairs. My sciatica started acting up right there
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: in the seat. But I said, you know what? I'll
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: be the first woman. And I'm so excited because little
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: girls will now be dressed as the genie. And that's
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: what I love, that they will go think outside the box.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Think of the possibilities. I can make wishes come true.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe I could be president. I love the fact that
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: this is how you plant the seed in young kids.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: You said something I think is very powerful. You said
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: that you were afraid. And you always do the things
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: that you're afraid to do.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Expand on that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I just, if it scares me, then I know that's
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: when you really need God. But I just, I think
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that you can't dream and explore if you don't do
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: things that scare you. Because life is too short. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: don't know, Charlamagne, if it's because as I get older
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and I see people passing away. Life is too short to...
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: to wake up and say, I wish. What if I did?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: If only I. You don't want to live with those
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: kind of regrets. Even if you do it and it
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: don't work. I'm doing it for three months. And I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: had to talk to my therapist because I had a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: panic attack. Because I said, what did I sign up for?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And my therapist said, so he says, so you're doing
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: it for three months. He said, how long has Aladdin
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: been going, the whole franchise? I said, I don't know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: 20-something years. He said, so do you think if you
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: missed a couple lines and you ran out of breath,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to tank the whole franchise? And I said, no.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I had to laugh. You know, and put it in perspective.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So I like to do things that scare me because
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: otherwise I wouldn't have a full life and I wouldn't
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: be able to sit in that chair on the talk
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: show and really expound on a bunch of stuff because
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I've lived a lot of life. And I know if
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you run towards the things that scare you, you're gonna
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: have a really good, there's a lot of blessings on
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the other side of fear. But most people can't get
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: past the fear to get to what the good stuff is.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of open doors. There's a lot
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: of opportunities. But if you scared and you just sitting
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: there and you going, I'm gonna wait to the right time.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I met a comic who was like, I'm waiting till
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I get a whole 50 minutes. Ain't nobody gonna put
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you on stage doing 50 minutes. Do the five, just
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: get on stage, just do it. Everything else will work out.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I think about Robin Williams.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: I think about Will Smith when they played the genie.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: What is your version going to look like? And how
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: do you not compete with the ones that they've already done?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Because I'm not them. I can only bring what I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: can bring. I never compare myself to anybody. Otherwise, I
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: would have never had a talk show when everybody kept saying,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: how you going to do this? what Wendy does. I'm
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: not her. When I did The View, I wasn't Star Jones.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I'm Sherri. And it works for me because I know
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: who I am and I know what I bring. So
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: all of the genies, if you go to Broadway now,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: they're big black men, bald head. They got a lot
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: of personality. They're singers. I'm five feet. I was 5'1,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: but I guess I lost the inch somewhere along the line.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: When I say age... Girl, I'm doing Pilates and Kegels
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: like I wouldn't believe. If I stretch my vagina, maybe
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I'll get taller. I was going to say, how do
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Kegels make you taller? I don't know, girl, but I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: doing everything. I done lost an inch. So I'm five
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: feet tall. I'm tiny, which means I got to bring
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: all of the joy, all of the smile, all of
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: my personality, all of my sass.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm bringing all. And you know what's going
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to come through the joy that I bring. And that
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with any of the other genies.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So I don't even think about that. I will call
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: them and ask for advice on how do I pace myself?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: How do I, you know, make it through 10, 12
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: shows a week? But I will not compare myself to them.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Because number one, I'm the only woman. So that's what
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I know going in. There's nobody to compare myself to.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And I know that these kids, these little girls are
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: going to be wide-eyed going, it's somebody that looks like
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: me that they don't do now. So why compare yourself
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to other people?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: This is very, very random.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Speaking of fear, when you said you do things out
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: of fear that you wouldn't usually do.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You played the hell out. out of being scared on straw.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I've never seen somebody look so scared in my life.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: It was so believable.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Like you were just, you are so afraid of what
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Taraji character, like would do you. I just, I was so,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: I think I was just so flabbergasted.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Like, yo, she really looks scared of shit. Well, I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: was scared. I mean, I know, but acting, I'm like, yo.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: But in the acting part of it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: That's amazing.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: But I tell you what the fear was in that movie.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Taraji is a beast. Taraji is trained. She went to Howard.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: She is trained. So working across from somebody, people don't
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: really let me come in for dramas. They know me
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: for comedy. And I can do comedy with my eyes closed.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Drama I can do, but I never get the chances
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: or the opportunities to do it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: I think that's why I was so, I'm like, I
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: never seen you in this light where a drama where
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: you had to be serious and scared.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You could do a drama. Comics are really good at
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: doing drama because you have to get on stage and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: be vulnerable. And so you can do comics. Robin Williams
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: did it. Whoopi Goldberg. We play drama, but we don't
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: get the opportunities. So when Tyler Perry called me and
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: did it, And I was on the set, plus he
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: operates so differently. But when I was, Taraji, if you
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: say cry, she just starts, tears just start coming. But
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: if you say Sherry cry, I gotta go, Tahini. You know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and I gotta go and I gotta dream every, if
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: y'all don't stop laughing at me. One on two. Like
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I gotta think of like horrible, horrific things. to get
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to that space. So I had to lay on the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: floor in my trailer for hours getting my stories together,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: how I felt about this woman, what is it like
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: to work at the bank, for me to get the emotion.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm like Taraji can do Taraji was such a beast.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: She would be playing. She'd be crying. Give me my money.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: And then she go, you know what, Tyler, how many
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: times you been on Sherry show? Because I was on
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Sherry show twice. And then they start joking. Everybody laughing.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, excuse me, dramatic actress. I'm trying to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: do my stuff. Good job. Go back to the drama
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: of it all. I'm not trained like that. So I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: really have to work hard at it. to make it believable.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Did you audition for the role?
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: At this point, I don't audition for a lot of stuff.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You asked for it on TV.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I asked for what? Didn't you ask Tyler to put
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you in something on TV? I did, but there wasn't auditioning.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I just thought he was looking out because you put
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: him on blast on TV. Well, I also believe in asking, too.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I say that to everybody. But I think Tyler's known
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: me for a long time, and he's seen stuff that
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I've done. So he wrote it, and he was like,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I want you to do it. So I didn't audition.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Angel in the Rubble.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Angel in the Rubble. Very dramatic.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Intensely dramatic.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: That's this Saturday. It comes out this Saturday.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: That's this Saturday.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: So it's the Janelle Guzman story who was one of the,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: was she the first survivor?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: She was the last survivor in the 9-11 attacks.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: How did you.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Get that role? Was that a phone call or like,
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: how did you? That was an offer.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's one thing about being in
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: this business 30 years and people, you have to have
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: a good reputation because people call me and they offer
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: things to me. So they saw me in Straw. So
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that's what it was. They saw me in Straw. The drama.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And they came to me and they said, we want
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: you to play Janelle Guzman. She worked at the Port
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Authority and she was a Trinidadian lady. And she was
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the last rescued, but she was buried alive for 27
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: hours before she was rescued under 13 feet of concrete
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: in the last tower that fell.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: So many stories. I don't even remember that story.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of stories. She wrote a book because
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: somebody put their hand through the air hole, a firefighter
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: named Paul. And every time she thought she was going
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: to die or pass out from pain, he would say,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: wake up. They're coming. They're coming. So when they finally
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: rescued her, they never found this Paul person. Never. First
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: of all, who could put their hand through 13 feet
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of concrete? So he was real. So she wrote a book.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I thought he was just an angel. Was he real?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Was he real? She wrote a book called Angel and
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the Robo because she felt God sent an angel. Because
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: how can you put your hand through 13 feet of concrete?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: That's true. No, you can't do that. So they found her.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Might have been Paul the Apostle.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So he said his name was Paul. And she
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: never found him, so she wrote that. So it's based
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: off of her book, A True Story. Now, with the fear-
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Did he say his hand was black or white? I
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: think in the movie he was white. Does it matter?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: It's always color about you. You're a white angel. I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: need a black angel. Why would your hand be black?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I think it was white. But the fear came in
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: there when they offered it to me. I took it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And then she's alive. So playing a person who's alive,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you know, when they're dead, you can give them that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You can give what you want. So I sat with
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: her for three or four hours and two hours on
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a Zoom just to kind of get her personality and
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: what she went through, her and her husband. And she's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: like amazing. And, you know, she it was she was
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: supposed to get her leg amputated. They didn't. That was
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a miracle. She had a steel shaft in her jaw.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: You know, so she's a very joyful person. And Trinidadian,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, and everybody kept saying, don't sound Jamaican.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Every time somebody do a Trinidadian accent, it's always Jamaican.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: So I had that pressure on me.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Can we hear the accent?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: No, you're not going to be able to get it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Why, why, brethren?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: See, you're doing better than me. That's Jamaican.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: He don't even know.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I was on a 28-city comedy tour, so I wasn't
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: able to work on the Trinidadian accent. And I said, oh,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: my gosh, everybody's going to. But thankfully, they didn't want
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: a Trinidadian accent. They wanted everybody. It was kind of
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: in and out of it. A couple of the things
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: that I did, they cut out. Because I'm a perfectionist.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I did work on a Trinidadian accent. But they cut
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: it out because they wanted everything to be, you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: with English.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: How did they know she was there?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: She was under 13 feet.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's why she wrote the book.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: They didn't dig her out and just say, you know what,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: everybody's dead. How did they know that there was somebody
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: still alive there?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: It was also a dog that sniffed her out. Shout
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: out to all the dogs. They've all passed away who
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: were working tirelessly.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: How do you know all the dogs died?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Because I went to the memorial and I saw all
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of the, did you go, Charlamagne? Well, then that's why.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You meant like actual professionals?
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Yes. The working dog. Charlamagne, where are you at today? Hello, knock, knock.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like dogs.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: What is going on with you?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: How do you know these dogs?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with you, y'all?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Charlamagne.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I have a dog down there right now.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I'm still here.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: What you talking about?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Don't kill me.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I'm a living legend dog. There's a pug. A French
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: poodle going to get me. Really? No, they were working
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: dogs who worked till their paws bled. Like if you
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: go to the memorial, they have a whole room of
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: these dogs who knew they were trying to find people.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: They've all passed away. People adopted them, but they're gone now.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: And there was a dog that sniffed her out. But exactly.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: It talked about how she found her faith in God
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: because she lost everybody that she worked with. They all
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: passed away. They were running down the stairs because they
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: knew nobody was coming to rescue them because they kept
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: saying to everybody, stay there. So they went down the
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: back stairs and what happened was the stairs opened up
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and swallowed most of our colleagues. She kept going. They
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: opened up and she fell in. And then, you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: she was buried alive. And that's to be buried alive
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: and not think anybody's going to come rescue you. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: can't even imagine. But you have to put your imagination first.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: in that. And I had to think of every, I
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: told my people, I said, I can't do another one.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I'm crying. I want to rob a bank next time.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Something was the drama, but let me just rob a bank.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: But you got to think of all the stuff. And
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: so for me, I'm a mother. That was the car.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: When she was talking to her, her daughter, I was like,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: I wonder what y'all's conversations were as moms, because she
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: didn't think she would make it back to her baby.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: She was trying to make it back to her baby.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And that's a parent's biggest fear, I would assume. And
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: that's what you would go through if you have children.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: If you were buried alive, that'd be the first thing
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you'd be thinking about. Not your man, your two kids.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And so that's where I went. Because I had to
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: cry different ways. I had to cry when I thought
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: God had abandoned me. I had to cry, so I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: had to go... go through all of the episodes with Jeffrey.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I would never get to see him graduate. What if
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: he went and joined the military and came back with
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: full honors? I never would be there. What if he
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: whispered in my ear, mom, it's okay. You can go.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Everything would bring me to tears with my son. You know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: then I think of other stuff. If, what if I
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: never saw my husband again, what that would be like.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Those are, but you have to make your brain believe
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: that that's true. So your brain is going through a
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: lot of trauma. It was very, very difficult to do
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: What was the smallest detail she gave you that just
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: unlocked the character for you?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was one small detail. It was
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: what she was going through when she was laying there.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Because the stuff was sitting on her head. She couldn't
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: move her head. She couldn't move her legs. So when
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: you're still, all you can do is call out. If
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you didn't have a guy before, you call out to
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: him when you think you're going to die.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: 27 hours?
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: 27 hours. And that feels like.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Days.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: She had no water. She was dehydrated. Like I said,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: she had a steel shaft in her. And going through guilt,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: survivor's remorse. Why am I here and my friends are
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: not here? What is so special about me? And now,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: you know, she lives a life of joy. She tells
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: people about her God. And, you know, she shows that
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you can go through difficult circumstances and come out still victorious.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: She's got two other kids. She married the man she
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: was with. She wanted to be out in the streets.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: She said, I wanted to be out in the streets
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and be Whitney Houston. You know, I wanted to sing.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But she married a boyfriend. She has two other kids.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: And she's just a bundle of joy.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Have you ever had your own version of that?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Where, like, I guess life scripted away.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I was buried alive. My second husband.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Almost died.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: My second husband.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Concrete on your back.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: My second husband.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Where life scripted.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: Away everything superficial and you just find yourself having to
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: negotiate with God.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Like. Yeah, I think probably when I went through that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: second divorce and everybody hated my guts about, you know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: and I was like, it was like I had nothing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get any deals. I wasn't getting called for auditions.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Like that, you know, people, I'm used to people really
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: liking me. And when I went through that second divorce
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and there was a child involved, people assumed things about
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: me that weren't true. And it was, I was getting
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: served with subpoenas every time I looked around. They served
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: me at Essence Music Fest. They served me at, you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: When I was somewhere else, I was trying to work.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I had gotten let go from The View. I didn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: have any money. I was paying for these attorneys. I
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: literally was at rock bottom. And I would cry. But
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I had my ride or dies. I had Niecy Nash.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I had Kim Whitley. I was trying to do stand-up.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: It was just like, and I had this son with
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: special needs. I felt like the whole world had just
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: crashed around me. I had to listen to everybody talking
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: about me. And when I tried to explain to a
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: couple of the bloggers, that was a mistake. Because there's
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: one girl, she got some popular thing. And I said,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: let me just give you the real of what's going on.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: And she took a clickbait and it just messed me up.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: My publicist mom was like, why would you do that?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I just tried to set the record straight. It worked
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: against me. And I felt like everybody in the world
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: hated me. And that was hard.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: I was going to ask, do you want to like,
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if you want to explain
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: kind of like where, like what the... Not the back
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: and forth, but what the tension was at that time
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: that made people feel like.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of people did not know
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: about fertility. Because back then, gestational carrier, fertility, that was
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: rich people problems. That's what somebody told me one time
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: when I tried to explain. He said, this is what
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: rich people go through. Now, fertility is very, very common
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: with folks. And I think that people thought that I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: abandoned my biological child. What they didn't know was this
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: was way before it was a lot of... You know,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's about as much as I could
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: talk about. I'm still under, you know, I still get
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: emails where like I'm a sue you because you talking
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: about me, you know, and there is a child involved.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: So out of respect for his child, I don't really
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: say anything. But he knows. I know. Niecy Nash knows
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: because she curses him out every other day. That's why
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: you got to have right at that, friends. When I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: tell you that girl, I don't care what you see
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: her on. If something come out, she will call him
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: because she still got his number and curse him. I
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: can't do it. But Niecy Nash will curse a person
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: out like you wouldn't believe. She from Compton. Shout out
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to that friend. Yeah. So, you know, that makes me happy. Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: But I really, you know, I had a respect for
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: his son. I won't talk about that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: So what did God say to you in that moment?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: He told me to be quiet. So when all this
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: stuff was swirling about me, God said, be quiet. Just
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: don't say nothing. Don't, you know, you ain't got to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: lash back out. Try to explain. I will deal with it. And,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: you know, and also I was broke, too, because I
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: was paying for so many attorneys, Charlamagne. This was a
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: case that was going on in L.A. because the judges
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: didn't want to release it because it was a celebrity case.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I had to fight it in New Jersey. I had
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: to fight it in Philadelphia. I was paying for everybody's attorney.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: That divorce cost me a million dollars, $ 200, 000. Damn. It
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: was so expensive. I was broke. And people think because
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: they see you on TV and they see you in movies.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Them movies you did a year before. Those little guest stars,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: they pay very little. If your expenses are more than
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: your income, you broke.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I was never driving around in a Rolls Royce. I
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: was never, you know, I was renting a house. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: lost my house. I was, I owe the IRS so much.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Real life. The day I paid off the IRS and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: they sent me, it was when I had the Sherry
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: show and they sent me a receipt. It said paid
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: in full. When I tell you I was on the floor,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I couldn't because it said paid in full. And I
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: was like, thank you, Jesus. So people don't know that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I got a job on Soul Man because Cedric just
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: was took pity on me because I had no money.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And Niecy was on there. And they gave me this
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: job on Soul Man. I flew back and forth. My son,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: they was calling me from his school every day going,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you're not here. Where are you? I'm trying to work.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I'm a single mother. I did everything except short of
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: sell something on the street. And that's only because of
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: my age. They didn't want the old ones. All right.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I can't say that word on TV. But short of.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you, it was some comics
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: that came and it was like, I help you out,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: but you know what you got to do. Set it off.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: You don't never want to be in a bind to
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a comic. You can't help me just because you want
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: to help me. I mean, I help you, but them titties. Ooh. Golly.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in a bind, Nate.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: When it was all over.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: What stopped you from going on a revenge tour?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: You know why? Because that wasn't going to do me
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: no good. You don't forgive people because of them. You
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: really got to do it for yourself. I've seen people
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: who are bitter. You know, they'll be like, oh, he
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: cheated on me and he did this and he did that. Well,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: when did it happen? 20 years ago. At some point,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: you got to let it go so that you can
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: move on. I'm happy. I'm joyful. I don't like you
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: can't you can't mess with my joy. And that's only
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: because I had to let stuff go. And I was
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: talking about it too much. Even my friends was calling
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: me going, girl, it's too much. You know how much
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: you turn men off? When you sitting there, you always
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: got to bring it back around to the exes and
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: why you triggered it. That's not even attractive. So you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: have to let it go so you can move forward.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: It doesn't serve a purpose.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to the other.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, go ahead. Because I was about to move on
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: to something else.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm going back to the genie, so go ahead. Okay.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: First romance.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I have one.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Your first romance novel you writing? Oh, it's called Life
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: is a K-Drama. Because I'm obsessed with K-dramas. I watch
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: them till four in the morning.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: You used to.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Talk about this a lot on the show. I do,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I love. That's the Asian stuff? I'm starting to take
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Korean lessons, yes. So C-dramas are Chinese dramas. J-dramas are
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Japanese dramas, but they all call them K-dramas. They're Korean dramas.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: For Korean. For Korean. K for Korean. Where the dogs at?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: K for Korean. That was a callback to you, Charlamagne.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: They got dogs?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: That was a terrible segue, Char.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: That was a terrible segue. I tried. I'm a comic.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You got to try.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious. You're going somewhere else, man.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: You got your dog back.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: They're not in English they got.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Subtitles They got subtitles. I listen to them in Korean.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I read the subtitles. Because it ain't nothing like watching
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: a Korean drama and it sounds like a Malibu surfer.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: It don't even read the same. So I like to
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: watch them because you know what? It's a slow courtship.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: They don't just jump into bed. Like what happens to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Korean dramas? They go into the room and then they
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: come out the next morning. Like, you don't see it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Or they'll be wrestling with each other and then it's
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the next morning. That's when you know they're about to
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: have sex. Sometimes I like that. I like sometimes when
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: they get into bed and they're sleeping with people. But
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: it's like a courtship. It's like, you know, it's raining
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he's there with the umbrella.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Or she slips and falls and he's catching her. And
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: they have really great storylines. And so I watch them
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: until 4 in the morning. I'm so tired. but I'm
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: obsessed with them. And so what I started seeing was,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: it's a Korean drama, but black women, there's a lot
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of interracial relationships. There's a lot of black women who
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: are married to Korean men. Why can't I see a
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: black woman? And if you don't see it, do something
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: about it. And I told my agent, I said, I
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: would love to see a black woman and a Korean man. Like,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: why can't we get the rich man? And so he said,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: my literary agent, he's Korean. He said, I like it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: So I teamed up with a Korean American romance writer,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: She's been on the USA bestseller list. I'm on the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller list. So we collaborated. And I
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: was with my friend Melba from Melba's Comfort Food. And
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I saw what a boss she is. She's got like
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: five restaurants, Melba. And she's about to open one over
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: across the daggone world. And she's got two in Jersey
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and one in Wollman Rink and one at Grand Central Station.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: And I saw how she moved. And I said, what
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: if it was a woman who had like a soul
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: food restaurant? And so what it is, is in Korea,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: her red velvet cake recipe went viral. So they want
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: to bring it over and make it international. So when
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: she travels to Korea, she thinks she meets a bartender
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: who's this gorgeous Korean man. But he's actually the heir
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to the Cheval. And that's like a conglomerate. a powerful,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: like Samsung or, you know, Ikea. He's the heir to
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: all of this power and all of this money. And
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: she thought he was a bartender. So she has to
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: leave because she is a son who's had special needs
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: because I had to put my life in it. And
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: she rushes home. And he's like, he don't know who
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: she is. But he's so attracted to that caramel skin.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: And he's just, it's just something about Keisha. His name
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: is Seo Joon and Keisha. And he travels across the
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: world to find this woman. And it turns out this
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: is the business that they're trying to get. So it's
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the clashes. And in K-dramas, there's always something that breaks
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: them up. There's always a problem. And they have to
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: come back together. And she introduces him to everything Harlem.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Dapper Dan, the art, the culture.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: The sound.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: He in Harlem. He outside. He's in Harlem.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: He's completely in Harlem.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: He outside on Sundays at the block party.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: At the block party. And so he doesn't know that world.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And she introduces him to that world. But then she
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: has to go to Korea and that world. Of, you know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: people who are very rich who don't accept her. And
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: they have the racial stuff that they have to deal with.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And the sex is so good. I mean, her name's Keisha.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And her name is Keisha. And the intimate scenes, they
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: don't show those on K-dramas, but they some for your mama.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: This is romanticizing kind of like, I mean, because you're dating, right?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: This is you romanticizing kind of how you want your
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: situation to play out.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: See how she just glowed when she did that? See
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: that glow? See that little glow? Where the dog at?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Who you dating? Girl. He's good. Oh, so you've narrowed
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: it down. No, I'm not narrowing it down. I'm just dating.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I just don't talk about it. I just, you know,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's some stuff. I think people put
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: their relationships out too soon. And it's always taken over
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: social media. And then the moment y'all have an argument,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: now you gotta go delete all of those pictures. You
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: gotta ask everybody, can you please respect my privacy? But
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: you've made it so that everybody knows everything about you
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and your guy. And so he didn't ask for this.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: He does not care about Hollywood. I asked him if
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: he wanted to meet Tom Cruise. And this is what
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: he said. He said, we about to go see him
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: in the movie. Why I got to meet him? I
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: love that. He in the movie. He doesn't care that
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I flirt with everybody. So his family says, how you
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: let Sherry, you know, flirt with all of these people?
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: He go, yeah, but you don't see, he don't see
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: what she look like set it off when she got
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: a prison braids in. I see that. He's Asian. Is
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: he Asian? No, he's not Asian.
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: Once you mentioned set it off, I knew he wasn't Asian.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I have the same thing.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, he's not.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, he's a black man. And you know what?
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And this is what I love. He inconveniences himself for me.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: You know, this is the sexy thing. I'm going to
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: tell you what he said. He said, God forbid something
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: happen to you. I will always, always take care of Jeffrey.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Number one. He said, because I love him like he's
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: my own son. And he said, and Sherry, God forbid
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: something happen to you, I'm going to be the one
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: wiping your ass. I'm going to wipe the spit off
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: your mouth. At this age, that was very sexy. When
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: a man say, I'm the one that's going to wipe
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: your ass. See, y'all don't know that. Wait till you
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: get over here.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: No, he know that. He just learned how to wipe
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: his ass.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: He ain't just talking about to wash his butt.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: You didn't see that story?
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: That is not true.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: She's been on a comedy tour and getting ready for Broadway.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: That's not true.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: But he was viral.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Because you said what? I've been with my wife for
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: 31 years, right?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: So we were young, right?
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Here's the headline. Look at the headline. Just don't even
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: let him look.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: It's DJ MB says wife Gia taught him to wash
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: his butt properly. Yeah, because he didn't know, so.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: So as a man, a lot of men don't know
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: how to wash.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Their ass, right?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: They just let the water run down. Oh, they just wipe, right?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: So my wife, we take a shower together.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: A long time ago, she taught me how to get
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: up in there and wipe my ass.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: And my dumb ass sitting on air and.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: See, that's the thing. That's why people love you because
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: you open up and you say things. That's right. Because
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of men.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Don't say open up right there. We're talking about my ass.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: Forget it.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Then we can do a movie. Oh, jeez. Such children. Y'all,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: every day. Every day, y'all. Every day.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get a resource now.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of men who feel the way you do. Absolutely.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Because a lot of men... Hell, who is Mila Kunis
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: from the 70s show? Ashton Kutcher. There's another one who
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: said they just let the water run down their body.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Those are white people.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: It's It's still. There's a lot of men, they will
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: never say, you know why they will never say it?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Because everybody going to make fun of them. So they
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: don't want to open themselves up to a woman and
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: be vulnerable. But it's good. See, because she loves you.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: She smelled that shit.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to, I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: to be the woman.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: She's soft in the blow.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Cause that's what we got to do with me. You
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: got to soften the blow. And that's what she told
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: all her friends. I guarantee you. Envy, I guarantee you.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: She done got with her friends and when they went
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: out drinking. Your ass is the subject. But she also
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: told him how good you are in bed. She did
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: tell him that. So we always balance it out. No, no, no, no, no.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I was trying to help you. That's another story. Let
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: me pull up that headline. Oh, my God. Envy. If
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: you can't wash your booty, you got to be good
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: in the bedroom. Something got to give. Envy. She couldn't
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: climb that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Ten years.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Admit it. His wife faked orgasms. Envy, you talk too much.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: That's what she said. That's what she said.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: For 10 years.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Now I got to explain. I've been with my wife
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: since 16. Since you were 16.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: How long you been with her? He got to give context.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: He got to give context. You got to make it
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: seem like it was last year. You got to give
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: me some context. So you don't really know what she's doing.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Exactly. So you watch a porn and it's bang, bang, bang, bang.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: And you realize it's not.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: We took each other's virginity.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: And we had to learn each other.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: And you had to relearn each other. Exactly. I got it.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: So she faked it for a while.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Until what age? Until last Tuesday. That's something about last Tuesday.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: When we did it and we wrote the book, so
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: many men and so many women said, I fake it too.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I'm glad. You got to do it very slowly. Kissing
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: is very important to women.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: I know now.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: You got to explain now.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I know now.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you wanted me to tell you. No, no, no.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: He started giving him tips. I'm going to let you know.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Because when a woman gets a certain age, you got
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: to know what you're doing. You got to know where
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: you're going, whether you're going east, west, north, south, and you.
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: Got to do it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I got it now, Sherri.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I'm good now.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I got six kids now.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I'm good. His nose is red like Rudolph. If you
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: do need something, you can always call me. I'm good, Sherri. Okay,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying. Any more stories you want to share?
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: You the one sharing them.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: I know we got to wrap, but I said I'm
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: happy for you. You talked a lot about like your
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: dating life and figuring out or lack thereof on your show.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: I think this is like an update for us.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Well, this is really good because he he this is
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: you when you know you got a good one. He
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: inconveniences himself for me. He tries to make sure he's
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: my peace. He always, it's like he listens. You know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: so he, you know, this Hollywood thing, he don't want
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: me to give a script to nobody. He ain't trying
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: to get a picture with nobody. It ain't none of that.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: He's very secure in who he is. Like he's coming
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to see me at my screening of Angel and the Rebel.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: It's tomorrow. He already told everybody I'm the purse holder.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: And he's OK with it. He don't want to get
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: on the red carpet. He don't want to be known
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: as the boyfriend. And he's a leader. He is a
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: man's man. So it's some stuff. He'll tell me, I'm
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: not one of your employees. And I'm not one of
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: your employees because I'm used to being bossy. But he
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: can handle all that, you know, and he makes room
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: for me. He always is there. So I got, don't
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I got a good one, Simone? You talk about taking
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: it slow, but... I got it going so bad that
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: we broke up and Kim Whitley called me and she said,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: can I have him? All my friends. When you get
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a certain age, you can do that. She was like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: screw that girl, Cole. Look, he's a good man. When
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: we broke up, everybody was sad when we got back together.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, the driver that I have almost crashed
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: into a tree. They love him. Because they see how
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: much he loves me and how good he treats me.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: And I have been out with a lot of people.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I have been out with celebrities. I have been out
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: with rich people. When I tell you, I need to
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: write a book. Towards the end, because then you know
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. Because these celebrities, my gosh.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Lord.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Narcissistic.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Would you do the marriage thing again because of him?
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: The marriage thing? At first I wouldn't, but I would.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Partnership is, I like marriage. But yeah, I would. I would.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: He's a good one.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: You sound free.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I'm very free.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: This leads me to my last question, right? Like the genie, right?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: The genie.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: The genie spends like the.
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: Whole movie granting everybody else's wishes, but he wants his
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: own freedom.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: And it's like for you, you spent decades entertaining people,
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: making people laugh, raising a family. When did you start asking,
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: what do I wish for to be free?
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I think probably very recently because Jeffrey is now at
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: college and he's finding his independence. He don't even call me.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: He ain't called me. It's been three weeks. He calls
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: me when he can't find his password. But because now
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I know that he's learning how to be independent, now
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I can focus on What does Sherry really want? And
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: what do I really want to do? Because I know, okay,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: he's working. He's going to be good. So I think
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: right now. And I'm not apologizing for anything. I'm just living.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: If you know my heart, you know my heart. I'm
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: not going to spend my time apologizing for something. I'm grown.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: When people say, why you didn't tell us about who
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: you're dating? Because I don't have to. I'm grown. I'm grown.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: So I like where I am right now. I have
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: my relationship with God. We're good. You know, when people say, oh,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: at one point I lived with him, you know, and
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: people was like, you know what God say? Me and God,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: we good.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: We good.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: That's the least of his worries. But so right now
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I'm in a very good place.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Great. I'm happy for you.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: So watch my movies on Lifetime this Saturday. This Saturday.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: This Saturday, 8 p.m.
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  Speaker 3: Eastern Time.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: And I wanted to shout out your breast cancer campaign.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: No questions.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to shout out. Oh, girl, I thought
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: you were saying this. I was like, wait a minute. No,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: you got a campaign to get the breast cancer. I'm
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: going to shout out your breast cancer. Shout out to
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: your breast cancer. Like, what? And I said, all my
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: big breasted sisters, consider a breast reduction. It was the
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: best thing I ever did ever. And breast cancer awareness.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: We really go get the mammograms. Because it's really, we
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: have very, you know, it's dense tissue and sometimes we
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: can't tell. So go get the mammograms because it will
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: save your life. Absolutely. What'd I do with the meat?
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I told him to put it in my booty. I
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: don't think that was paying attention. I was like, no,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I'm serious. All that breast meat, put that in my booty.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Put that in my booty.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I do not have a black girl booty. Give it
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: to me. Put it on my hips and my booty.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And they probably gave it to some other person. They
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: walking around with my titties on their ass.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Sherri Shepherd, ladies and gentlemen.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Love you guys.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: See you, girl.