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8-12-26 Hour 3 - Pushing Peyton Watson to return/John-Michael Liles/Improving Little League sports · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Moser, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so why is Nelly playing waffle House by the
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  Speaker 2: Jonas Brothers because they have been selected as the halftime
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  Speaker 2: show at the game in Australia between the Rams and
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  Speaker 2: the Niners.
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  Speaker 3: Heck yeah, heck yeah, I've been on that show.
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  Speaker 2: As Caesar would say, how do they die?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I don't know much about the Jonas brothers. I
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  Speaker 4: know they're incredibly popular. I don't listen to a lot
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  Speaker 4: of their tunes. I like, that's a little.
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  Speaker 5: Poppy, little catchy.
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  Speaker 4: But I do know you ever see the movie Midway,
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  Speaker 4: the New Midway movie that came out a couple three
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  Speaker 4: five years.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it was that the rate of a film.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty good, and you know me,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a World War two amateur historian, so I really
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  Speaker 4: liked it. But I thought Joe Jonas was really good
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  Speaker 4: in it. Okay, good talk.
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  Speaker 3: Well, sorry, I'm trying to read this article.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't seen this yet, but apparently in the Hoop
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  Speaker 6: Collective it's that podcast ESPN has with Ryan win Horse
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  Speaker 6: and Anthony Slater and all their big NBA guys.
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Slater said this.
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  Speaker 6: The Nuggets were repeatedly checking in on Peyton Watson as
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  Speaker 6: he recovered from a hamstring strain during their playoff series
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  Speaker 6: in April, when Watson never played or seemingly had any meaningful.
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  Speaker 3: Progress in his recovery. Quote.
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  Speaker 6: Part of the belief from Denver in his continuing to
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  Speaker 6: sit out was that he was trying to protect his
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  Speaker 6: pending restricted free agency and not hurt himself any further
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  Speaker 6: with so much at stake on a personal level. This
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  Speaker 6: decision process apparently bothered the Nuggets, who watched Aaron Gordon
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  Speaker 6: push himself to play just by calf tightness suffered mid series.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think.
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  Speaker 2: I think we'll never know the real answer. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know a guy's injury except the guy that's number one,
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  Speaker 2: number two. There's certainly suspicion of that, right if you're
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets or it happened to be yes, But I've
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  Speaker 2: a I'm always of the belief that competer competitors want
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  Speaker 2: to compete at the highest level. If the advice from
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  Speaker 2: his agent was, hey, let's sit this one out and
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  Speaker 2: protect you. I get it in one respect, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't get it in the other. What better way to
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  Speaker 2: make big money on the open market than by proving
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  Speaker 2: at the highest level that you can produce.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly right, That's what I think about. He stood way
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  Speaker 6: more to gain than to lose. If he goes out
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs and puts up twenty two a night.
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  Speaker 6: That only helps his.
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  Speaker 2: Cause you're making whatever you want. Sign the check right now.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't understand the logic there, because if I'm
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  Speaker 2: the agent and can you go, well, let's go and
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  Speaker 2: let's put a some numbers.
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  Speaker 4: I would be lying if I said, oh, that never
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  Speaker 4: crossed my mind.
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  Speaker 5: But it did cross my mind.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it crossed everybody's mind, because so I don't Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah it was.
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  Speaker 5: It's a long process, and it doesn't it doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you want your team to win and you're
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  Speaker 4: locked in this battle with Minnesota, and you know you're
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  Speaker 4: hoping that everybody can be available even though they can't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it crossed my mind, but I have no proof,
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  Speaker 4: and I it's hard for me to call out a
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  Speaker 4: guy who's been legitimately dealing with something if he's stretching
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  Speaker 4: it out.
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  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know I have at.
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  Speaker 2: The end of the day, and there's no way to
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  Speaker 2: prove it. At the end of the day. I think
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  Speaker 2: competitors want to compete, all right, But if that choice
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  Speaker 2: was made to preserve, and that choice was given to
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  Speaker 2: him by his agent, then his agent made a grave mistake.
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  Speaker 5: I just here's what's.
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  Speaker 3: Tough for me.
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  Speaker 6: I'm always, I'm almost always going to side with the
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  Speaker 6: players when it comes to discussion like this, and what
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  Speaker 6: I mean by that is trust that they're telling the
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  Speaker 6: truth that they're hurt.
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  Speaker 3: And here's why.
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  Speaker 6: Because even with the possibility of his contract, you know
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  Speaker 6: up in the air doesn't want to get hurt before
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  Speaker 6: blah blah blah. I think that is obviously a factor
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  Speaker 6: in this. We just talked about the story of Kevin
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  Speaker 6: Durant had this happened to him, where he was basically
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  Speaker 6: being called soft by his own organization when the Warriors
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  Speaker 6: were in a playoff run and he comes back saying,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, my calf still doesn't feel totally right
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  Speaker 6: and his achilles blew up the game.
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  Speaker 3: He returned.
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  Speaker 6: Because he waited and waited and waited, and they they
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  Speaker 6: basically if I remember right, fit correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 6: There were whispers that were probably coming from the organization.
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  Speaker 6: They wanted to get it out there, like he's been
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  Speaker 6: cleared by the doctors. We don't know why he's not
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  Speaker 6: playing Boom Hill's Pop. Yeah, And this same conversation happened.
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  Speaker 6: If you guys remembered, it was like a year and
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  Speaker 6: a half after Jamal's knee injury.
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  Speaker 3: Remember, we kept waiting like, is he gonna play in
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Is he gonna play? And I was like, well, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the doctors seem like they cleared him. Maybe the guy
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  Speaker 6: just doesn't feel right. And it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 6: go out and say the reason he didn't sit out,
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  Speaker 6: or the reason he didn't play, was because he didn't
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  Speaker 6: want to further injure himself.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that's what we're talking about here. He was scared
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  Speaker 3: he'd play poorly.
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  Speaker 6: If he's scared he's going to injure himself again, wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: that tell you he didn't feel totally one hundred percent?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? You know the shameful thing and I've said this
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  Speaker 2: before when you look back at the Nuggets window of
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  Speaker 2: opportunity and they did win a title, they did do
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  Speaker 2: something that's never been done in Denver. Can they win
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  Speaker 2: again remains to be seen. But those two years without
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  Speaker 2: Jamal are two years they took away from that championship
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  Speaker 2: window when they indeed could have won. Oh for sure,
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  Speaker 2: they could have won before Jamal Murray went down at
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  Speaker 2: Golden State. And I'll never forget the play. I'll never
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  Speaker 2: forget the moment I was doing the radio call with
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  Speaker 2: Case at the time. I'll never forget it the moment
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  Speaker 2: he went down. I turned to cous I said that
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  Speaker 2: that may have cost him a championship because that team
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  Speaker 2: was hot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was.
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  Speaker 6: I still remember it was like a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 6: after the ag trade and we're like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 6: this team looks every bit like one that could compete.
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  Speaker 4: They were smoking at the time, and Vic I remember,
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  Speaker 4: like it was yesterday too, and he just went down
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  Speaker 4: the lane and couplam. I mean, that's just you never
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  Speaker 4: and that's not like hey, I haven't been training or
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  Speaker 4: I haven't been you know, doing the right things or
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  Speaker 4: getting enough rest. That's just a human body with a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stress on it going down the lane and exploding.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel bad too, because I honestly thought when
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  Speaker 4: KD was dealing with that calf, I'm liked it kind
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  Speaker 4: of feels like.
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  Speaker 5: He's milking this, you know, that's the other thing.
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  Speaker 4: And then his calf, he comes back in his cap,
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  Speaker 4: the killes explodes and I was completely wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It's also the other reason why he was so satisfying
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  Speaker 2: to win that title when they did, is that they
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  Speaker 2: had to overcome that, yeah, a major injury from one
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  Speaker 2: of their star players to get back on top of
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  Speaker 2: that horse. And right, you know they did that, right,
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  Speaker 2: but it cost him two years.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's totally fair if this story is true
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  Speaker 6: that the Nuggets were wondering to themselves, is he sitting
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  Speaker 6: out because of the contract status or or what. But
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  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, again, if there's a
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  Speaker 6: fear he's going to hurt himself again, wouldn't that tell
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  Speaker 6: you that he didn't feel one hundred percent? And look,
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  Speaker 6: I know there's plenty of guys. Most guys aren't playing
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  Speaker 6: one hundred percent in the postseason, but it's different when
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  Speaker 6: you have hamstring that chipop that you return from and
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  Speaker 6: pop it again immediately. That would put you in a
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  Speaker 6: different mind space, wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 4: I think anytime you've done with an injury like that,
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  Speaker 4: there's always gonna be questions in your own head until
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  Speaker 4: you actually get out and play and you get the
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  Speaker 4: necessary reps and the necessary games in it, and then
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  Speaker 4: you believe again. But I think there will always be
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  Speaker 4: until that happens and you get through all of that,
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  Speaker 4: there's always that question mark in your own head.
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  Speaker 6: A couple of notes here from the Broncos. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if you guys saw this yesterday. They are going
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  Speaker 6: to in Week six gonna wear those throwbacks against the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 6: So that's when you get the old D back on
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  Speaker 6: the helmet.
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  Speaker 4: There's another one too, there's Week six, and there's another
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  Speaker 4: game as well. Isn't there a Week six?
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  Speaker 3: Hang on?
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  Speaker 4: Hang on, it's a game against the Chargers. I think
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  Speaker 4: they're going to wear the throwbacks as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the last week of the season. They're a gay teen.
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  Speaker 6: So Week six and Week eighteen are also wearing those
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  Speaker 6: the really dark uniforms with the dark helmets or white
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  Speaker 6: helmets called Midnight Navy. They're doing that twice this year,
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  Speaker 6: in Week three and Week sixteen against the Rams and
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  Speaker 6: the Bills. So there's a couple more uniform changes now
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  Speaker 6: in that Sportico article or you guys remember.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on real quick though on do you see the
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  Speaker 4: video released by the Denver Broncos regarding that throwback against
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks with all the old you know, Lway highlights
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  Speaker 4: and and all this kind of stuff. And I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was pretty well done by the Denver Broncos. But Brett,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Seattle Seahawks were in the AFC West.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so that.
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  Speaker 4: Probably I mean for old timers like Vic and me, Vic,
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  Speaker 4: that's fun. That's a fun throwback to the old Jim Zorn,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Steve Largent looking crap versus Olweigh and company.
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  Speaker 4: That's gonna be I just you know me, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: uniform guy.
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  Speaker 5: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Do yourself as a favor. There's a there's a piece
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  Speaker 2: of video somebody preferred me to it. It's on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Steve Largent story. I think Dennis Smith and
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  Speaker 2: Steve Largent. I think it's Dennis Smith and it follows
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  Speaker 2: Steve Largent and the story about how he got hit
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  Speaker 2: very hard in the game and waited all season hit
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  Speaker 2: him back. I can't remember who the other player of
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  Speaker 2: the Bronco was. It's fascinating stuff, just about holding a
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  Speaker 2: grudge for an entire season and waiting to get back
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  Speaker 2: at a player. And back then because they shared the
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  Speaker 2: same division, the Broncos and Seahawks, that was I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to call it a scorching rivalry bind any means,
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  Speaker 2: but they hated each other because they played against each
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  Speaker 2: other twice a year.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it was safety Mike Harden. That's who it was.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not large and unconscious with an illegal helmet, mangling forearm, hit.
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  Speaker 5: To the face, That's who it was. Uh. And then
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  Speaker 5: he waited. Yeah, he waited all the way. It was weak.
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  Speaker 2: One of the eighties season, used to play basketball with
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  Speaker 2: Mike Harden at the West Rec Center. That dude would
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  Speaker 2: show up. You know we were at the time, we
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  Speaker 2: were young kids in high school, like, who's who's the
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  Speaker 2: former Broncos. Oh, that's Mike Harden. He was merciless dude.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't one of those dudes who'd be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'll take it easy on the kids. He would just
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  Speaker 2: throw people out of the way.
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  Speaker 4: So Brett it wasn't until week fifteen that Harden had
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  Speaker 4: a pick and Largent returned the favor and lit him up.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't wait.
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  Speaker 6: Last thing here real quick, and we got to get
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  Speaker 6: to John Michael Lyles in about five minutes. So Sportico
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  Speaker 6: had the release of all the most profitable or i'm sorry,
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  Speaker 6: the most valuable teams in the league. So like the
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  Speaker 6: Cowboys are valued at fifteen and a half billion dollars
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  Speaker 6: right now, what are.
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  Speaker 5: The Rams with their play, with their place?
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  Speaker 3: The Rams are second, they're twelve point seven.
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  Speaker 5: There go.
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  Speaker 6: The Lakers just sold today for twelve and a half
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  Speaker 6: billion dollars. So the Walton Penner group, they bought the
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  Speaker 6: Broncos four years ago for four point six five billion dollars,
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  Speaker 6: big money, and what they're worth today four years later
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  Speaker 6: double nine point one eight billion dollars is the estimate.
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  Speaker 6: So that dude was his name, Mark Walter, that owned
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  Speaker 6: the Lakers for a year before he flipped them today
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  Speaker 6: for two and a half billionllion dollars. It's now worth
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  Speaker 6: over double of what they paid four years ago, and
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  Speaker 6: it's a forty percent increase from last year, probably in
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  Speaker 6: large part thanks to the Seahawks selling for nine million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Also, the Vegas franchise the expansion franchise that's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: go in Las Vegas in the NBA. Yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stories about how this Lakers deal got done
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  Speaker 2: because that group that just bought the Lakers was in
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  Speaker 2: on Vegas and they knew they weren't going to win
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  Speaker 2: that bid, so they pivoted, pivoted to the Lakers. So
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  Speaker 2: in on that Vegas deal of the Waltons, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: same Waltons who owned the Broncos have shown interest in
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  Speaker 2: I can't prove it, but there's there's some Laker sorry,
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  Speaker 2: some Vegas talk there. Jerry Colangelo's group. He's got a
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  Speaker 2: group that he put together for Vegas. I say, we
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  Speaker 2: put together a group for Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: What are the rules?
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  Speaker 6: Isn't there some sort of rule for ownership in different sports?
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  Speaker 4: Can you not?
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  Speaker 2: All those rules don't mean a thing anymore. There's listen,
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  Speaker 2: there's a select us to what was the rule.
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  Speaker 6: That you couldn't own them in the same market or
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  Speaker 6: something like that, or there's something.
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  Speaker 3: Surrounding that that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the NFL had a rule if you owned
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  Speaker 4: an NFL team, you could not own a team in another.
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  Speaker 3: Market, or you couldn't own it in another market.
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  Speaker 5: Of any other sport that had that also had an
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  Speaker 5: NFL team.
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  Speaker 3: Well that that couldn't be because.
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  Speaker 2: The Conkys had.
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  Speaker 6: But no, the Krokys had the Rams and the Aves
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  Speaker 6: and the Nuggets and years ago and.
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  Speaker 4: Had to transfer ownership officially of the Avs and the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: I think mosers making up rules.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you could own an NFL group, but
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  Speaker 6: it couldn't be in the same market as the other teams.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what the rule was.
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  Speaker 2: Look it up, Moses. The point is there's only a
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  Speaker 2: select number of people on Earth who can afford to
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  Speaker 2: pay these price tags, So why, you know, what are
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  Speaker 2: we doing? It's me.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: The historically, the NFL and forced strict ownership rules, including
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  Speaker 4: a mandatory thirty percent minimum stake for a controlling owner,
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  Speaker 4: a strict ban on cross ownership of other major sports
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  Speaker 4: team outside of an owner's home market, total prohibition on
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  Speaker 4: corporate or public ownership, and a cap of twenty five
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  Speaker 4: twenty four to twenty five total stakeholders. When Stan bought
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  Speaker 4: the Rams, he had to transfer the Abs and.
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  Speaker 5: The Nuggets to who Josh No, I think I think
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  Speaker 5: it was his wife.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: But they but they ditched that back in twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't apply anymore.
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  Speaker 5: No, it doesn't apply anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess is that really transferring ownership? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you're you.
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  Speaker 6: Give it to your wife, sue me.
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  Speaker 4: If I say, sue me exactly, let's find out sue me.
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  Speaker 3: The controlling owner is my dog. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now what Well, dog legally can't own a sports franchise
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  Speaker 4: because it's not a human being.
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  Speaker 3: What if you had what was that ape that Jane
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  Speaker 3: Goodall could talk to with sign language? What about that?
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  Speaker 5: Is that Coco or something?
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  Speaker 3: Or Coco? Is it Coco?
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  Speaker 5: Was it a gorilla? Or was it a chimpanzee?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 5: No, wait, which one was the chimps? And which ones
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  Speaker 5: was the gorilla?
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it?
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  Speaker 5: No, it wasn't Coco.
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  Speaker 3: The smoking monkey in North Korea that was just ripped
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  Speaker 3: through PAXAE.
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  Speaker 2: The two named for me, the two most legendary franchises
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  Speaker 2: in the sport of basketball NBA, Boston Celtics and mel
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  Speaker 2: both have been sold here in recent years, the Lakers twice.
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  Speaker 5: What do you say, red flag? What are you saying
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  Speaker 5: that the value the value went up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that that that that doesn't happen. That
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 6: And the most recognizable in the NFL as the Cowboys
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  Speaker 6: and Jerry Jones is like.
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  Speaker 5: Take this team over my dead body.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't never get in control ownership of this.
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  Speaker 2: He's an incredible businessman. Look at what he's done with
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Look at the value of the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 2: May not you what's your poet?
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  Speaker 5: May not show so pissed off? Agreed with you, buddy
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  Speaker 5: just a little bit. No, you settled down, Jarah.
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  Speaker 7: Mike Well to shut up.
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  Speaker 4: Let me answer.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one of the problems I have with us,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: we in the media is we have these takes on
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: how people should run teams and all that, and most
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: of us in the media have never run a business
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: in our lives. We have as much business acumen as Nelly.
• 16:45
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• 17:24
  Speaker 8: Oh not much? Thanks for having me, guys.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: So, hey, I saw your your pel buddy, James love
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: it Broncos.
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: The other day he was, oh really, I was brother
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: in law law.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if you wanted me to say that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know what what the deal is.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: Well, I was with James last week in Mexico. His
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: wife turned forty. That's my wife's sister. So we had
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: a little a family trip down to Mexico last week.
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: And funny enough, I was actually with James a couple
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: weeks ago up at Frost Creek when he shot a
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: sixty at Frost Creek.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: What that's when you just got to stop playing?
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: It? Was?
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: It was so disgusting to watch an eagle and ten
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: birdies at Frostcry.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I heard a r and I'm not going to mention
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: names that he beat a very reputable PGA player.
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: He did.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: He did five shots at Castle Pines.
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: What he There's that they had a game recently and
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: I believe he was getting one on the front and
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: I think he beat him by three on the front
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: and that player told him he's never getting another shot.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: Now. Yeah, it was explained that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: It explained James a little bit.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: James is a former. I mean he's a he's a
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: a PGA tour player.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, if you sixty, you should be well. He
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: played at du so he's a du alum.
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: He was.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: He was more than a decade on the web, dot
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: com and Canadian tours. Played a number of PGA Tour
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: events from Calgary originally, So yeah, figure that one out.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: The golfer in the family is from Calgary and the
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: hockey player the family is from Indiana.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: So yeah, it's we're we're a little bit backwards, I.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Guess, Johnny. Have you ever played with Will Lutts, the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Broncos kicker.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I played. I played with him a few weeks ago.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: James runs a Friday game at Cherry Creek Country Club
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: and I played with Will a few weeks ago and
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: Will won the member guest at Cherry Creek.
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: I say, a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, good player.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Yes, Johnny tell us about the alumni game there. First
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: of all, are you participating? Are you playing in this thing?
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: I am playing in this thing against all the red
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: flags that my body seems to be gaining.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: When you got back, when you got back from Mexico
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: and you got on the ice with the boys, how
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: close were you to puking?
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: I don't feel great. I'll say that Joe. I got
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: the ice the day before we went to Mexico with
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Joe and we were Joe's got Joe's playing in the game.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: And it's funny because we got on the ice of
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: this place called Elevato two.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: So it's a skills rink.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: It's about a third the size of a normal rink,
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: so you're not really doing you know, full on wind sprints.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: But yeah, we were wheeling around and I didn't feel great.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: And then I went to Mexico for a week and
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: I and I you know, that definitely didn't help because
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: we all know, you know, the margarita is down there
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: and the tacos and everything, and I helped myself to
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: quite a few. But it was fun getting on the
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: ice with Joe again. And sounds like he's gonna he's
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: gonna skate in our alumni skate this week as well,
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: and he's excited.
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: To play in the game. And we got we got
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: a great group. Yeah, I mean, you.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: Know, Helmer Pagliano. Paul Stasney's coming back. Sounds like, you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: he's probably gonna start on the du team, but obviously
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: played for the Avs.
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: Peter Stasney is coming in now as well.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Oh you're kidding.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: So no, Pistol Pete's coming in.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Is he gonna be like tournament? Yeah? Is he gonna
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: be like a like a coach or something or just
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: hang out? Well, So I.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: Did get a text from Yon Pauli's brother and he said,
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: should Pistol bring his gear? And I said, let's get
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: let's get a triple, you know Stasney line at some
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: point of of Paul and Pistol Pete.
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: I think it would be sick.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Dude for people to see that Pete staff Peter Stadsny's
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: skat in person. I mean, I know he's older now,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I get that, but just to see him on the
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: ice in gear for everybody will be probably the first
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: time in their lives. That's amazing.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: Please do some cool stuff.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: We got some, I said, I said, bring the gear absolutely,
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: so he's uh, he's coming in and uh yeah, it's it's.
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: Gonna be awesome.
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: Mos. You and I might be playing together in the
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: golf tournament, so I am pumped to watch.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: You pound the ball.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh there it is.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Yes, sure, there's so less more about the alumni game
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: here in a second, I do want to get your thoughts.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: You know, it's not like some dark storm cloud, but
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: there is some sort of cloud that's hanging above the
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: start of the season for the Abs, which is Kel
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: mccarr's contract, And I would assume you'd like to get
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: that done before the season starts, just so it's not
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: there when you're in the middle of the year. Here's
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: the question, though, Celebrini's it's an eighteen point eight million
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: dollar a year contract cale could very easily be like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: I want to be the highest paid in the league.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Do you think he will?
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: You know what I listen, if he wants to, he
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: it's deserved, right, Like if he wants to be the
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: highest paid player in the league, albeit for how long?
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Like if Quinn hughes waits and wants to be the
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: highest paid player in the league. And you know, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: Caale and Quinn are looking at each other saying who's
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: going to sign first? And then that you know the
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: next guy's going to sign one hundred grand more per year?
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: You know, is that does that factor into the equation?
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: I'm I'm just this is you know, no behind the
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: scenes stuff.
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: I think Cale, knowing what.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: The Avs have and what the window looks like, I
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: think Cale is listen, it's going to be a number,
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: But I don't know that it's eighteen point nine.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: I think it's somewhere, you know.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: You know, he talks to the ABS and says, hey,
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: what what makes sense allowing us to keep this group
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: together and have the biggest window possible. But listen everything
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: that Cale uh that that that is a possibility for Kale.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: He has earned And you know, Joe Saffeckt doesn't go
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: into that press conference when when at the end of
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: the year saying we will get Cale signed and he
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: will finish as an av Nobody says that unless he's
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: never going anywhere, right like that just it just doesn't happen.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: And those are the players that that they don't go anywhere,
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: and and Cale is that guy. So I I yes,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: I think a deal gets done. It's to me, it
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: seems like everybody's just kind of enjoying their summers and
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: and it'll get done. I mean, you look at Nathan
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: McKinnon when his deal got signed. I mean it was
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: the it was the AVS golf tournament. I believe he
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: came on the radio and you guys broke the news.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they all gathered in the in the clubhouse, closed
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: the doors and then heard some celebrating going on.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh okay, yes, and you know, Jenny again,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's any worry from either side. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: think that everybody realized this is going to get done.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Like Joe said at the conference, he he's gonna be
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: an Avalanche for life. You know, that's just the way
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: it is. And in all honesty, when you're talking about
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: one of the best to ever play the game, which
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: is what he's gonna go down as I believe when
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: he's done, future Hall of Famer. You know, he's got
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: more Norrises in his future, hopefully more cups in his future.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like a no brainer.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Just pay him.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: You know what do you want? Carol? All right? You
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: know whatever?
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, is there a happy medium that makes sense?
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: Because yeah, I mean, you have Nathan McKinnon under contract,
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: But it's it's the guys that you're able to keep
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: if you can, if you can, you know, say he
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: takes I mean Lesten. I'm throwing this out there because
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: I think Elliott Freeman talked about it, like does he
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: want eight years or is the cap gonna go up
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: significantly where in three or four years he can hit
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: another home run. And let's be honest, like he deserves
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: to hit another home run if that's if that's a possibility,
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: but is there a number in there that allows them
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: to keep those depth guys that are so valuable come
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: playoff time.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, your podcast recently with Matthew could chuck with so good?
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: Oh thanks?
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: He he he's unreal, Like it's funny. I I played
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: with his dad, which I like that is I hate
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: saying that. God right, yeah right, Like I'm not like
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: I'm forty five. It's not you know, like I, well,
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: thank you, I appreciate you, but I appreciate you. This
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: is as good as I look right now. I'm tanned
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: from Mexico. I got a haircut yesterday. This is as
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: good as I look. So it's all downhill from here.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: But he's an unreal guy. And and it's so funny
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: like playing with his dad on on the US teams
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: over the years when I was younger, and just like
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: he's he's very similar to his dad. And it's funny
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: because you know I got to you know, hang out
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: with him. Uh, you know, helped him ended up, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: buying a place a few years ago in Vail, So
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: I helped him with that. And then now he you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: he's up there in the summer a little bit, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: you know, I got to golf with him. He was
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: there when James shot sixty at Frost Creek and you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: loved every second of it. But then you know, we
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: had a little little throw down. I was able to
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: get Keifer and Riker to drive up for for an
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: afternoon and the four of us played and uh, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: we were like, hey, we got to get you on
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: the podcast. And he's like absolutely.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: He's like, I love you guys. You guys are a riot,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: because you know that's that's what happens. But literally first
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: hole Keifer.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: I don't know how, but he was on in two
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: on a par five and Matthew from the whoops. No,
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: we didn't play the tips the Keifer will never ever
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: play the tess. We played the one ups. I did
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: talk Keifer into buying a new driver, so I'm going
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: to say that's why he was on in two because
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: he hit his driver a lot better.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: A new driver. My goodness, all right, go on.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: He bought a new driver and new irons in the
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: same round after playing with me up in Vale.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: So that's yeah, it's he.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: He he got off his wallet, but Matthew had his
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: gold medal in his bag.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: I don't know why, but he walks away. He told Keifer.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: He goes, He said to Keifer, he goes, you gotta
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: mark your ball with this gold medal, like absolutely, So
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Keifer marks the ball with the gold medal and he's
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: sitting there and this is like a thirty footer for eagle,
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: and he goes, I feel like I'm gonna make it now,
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: and he puts the ball down and he rolls it
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: in and Matthew walks up and puts the gold medal around.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: With the gold medal, I would.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Have kept it, just sprit for the cars, the car
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: and just take off.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: So I just said, this is as good as it
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: gets for me. That's as good as it gets for
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: Kyle Keith eagling one and walking off the green with
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: the gold medal. But it was awesome. Matthew's unreal. He
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: had a blast with us. We had a blast with him.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: He was awesome on the podcast. And yeah, that Florida
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Panther team is looking good. Uh this year we talked
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: about a bunch of stuff, you know, with his brother
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: during the round and whatnot.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: But yeah, it's Uh, I'm excited.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Moj I'm vi miss it to Buddy Cayner.
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: I'll see you at the golf tournament. I'm excited to
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: see you.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: You know, Johnny, I did say this, and I'm gonna
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: ask you about the weekend coming up here, not this weekend,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: but the following weekend. Uh.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: I told the.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Boys that it was like it was a couple three
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: years ago we were maybe the last game in Veil
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: and that at the Little party. Matthew and I I'd
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: never really talked to him before, but covered his dad
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: and so we just got to talk and is having
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: a beer for like twenty minutes. I'm like, I just
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: didn't realize how good of a dude this.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Guy really is.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's an under dude, but but he's a
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: great dude. So he backs up everything you said. That
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: being said, Hey, if everybody wants to go to this,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: so you want to check out what's going on, especially
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: the game. It's Colorado Avalanche dot com slash back to Hockey,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: and I mean, but it's more than just the game,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Johnny fan.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: But the fan fest.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: The tournament of course is sold out, but it's it's huge,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: it always is, but there's a lot going on.
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there is the fan fest beforehand.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: So Friday, we've got a golf tournament that's sold out,
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: but but we've got you know, Peter Forsburg's coming in,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: like I said, Joe's and we've got a party on
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: Saturday night with a bunch of the sponsors, kind of
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: VIP party thing. There's a three on three tournament they're
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: doing for kids, I believe at Family Sports on.
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: Saturday as well. That the ADS Youth Hockey has put together.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: This is year one.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: I think that ten you is is close to sold out,
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: but there's still some availability at twelve of you and
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: fourteen U. Our alumni are going to be there for
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: that fan fest on Sunday. It's open to the public.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: You don't need a ticket to go to that, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: we'll be signing autograph. Apparently there's a dunk tank, which I.
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: Just found out about that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Apparently I am in Awesome and maybe high Note, maybe Riker,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: although I'm not sure.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Riker getting some treatment on top of his head, so
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: I saw that to go.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's I don't know if he's allowed to go
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: with the dunk tank, so he may just be chirping
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: off to the side, but.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: He's doing full turkey.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, No, he didn't do turkey. He didn't do turkey.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: He's doing some sort of treatment on the on the
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: boulder for the Colorado Waterfall.
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: He's he's not doing the front. He's on the boulder.
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: He apparently.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: I talked to him yesterday and he's got some baby
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: hairs coming.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: So he's very excited.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: And if he is not allowed to go in the
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: dunk tank because of it, I'm pretty sure he will
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: avoid it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna make that excuse for sure.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: You know what he is?
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: This is like this is like Selick shaving off the
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: mustache or something like that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: It's it's this Riker is known for that patch. What
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: do we do?
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you gotta look. So we have these shots
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: from behind.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm not looking so great, Johnny, You're still there, Keith,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: for obviously is a lost hanging on, yeah, and hanging on.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: But Rikers.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: It's gone from like the size of a silver dollar
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: and now it is like a dinner plate on the
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: back of his head. And the problem is is that
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: the front is going to get to that part soon, bro,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, it's gonna get there
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: pretty quick.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: So wait, we're a side salad.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Now he's gonna be full side selling. That is correct.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: It's you know, you know like in the spring when
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: the melt happens and the water really rushes over the boulders.
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: Rikers in full spring melt.
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: Right now, and he's trying to get to you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: midsummer where the melt is stopped and it's just a trickle.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Again.
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  Speaker 4: This is really cool with the people. I mean, if
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: you don't have a ticket to the game or you
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: can't get one, it's gonna be huge. You can still
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: go and get autographs and all that kind of thing.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: That's really cool. So check it up.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Psachic Forsburg, Heyduke, It's all on August twenty third, Magnus
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Arena visit.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Ryan Miller's our goalie. Oh nice, the twenty ten Olympic team.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: I called in a favor. We we had a tough
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: time our ABS alumni goalies.
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: We weren't able to.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: We weren't able to get Max Laquah like last time
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: Peter Budai wasn't available, tried to get Pavel Franco's and
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: so I called in a favor. Ryan Miller from the
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: twenty ten US Olympic team is going to be a
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: net for the ABSTE.
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  Speaker 8: He's one of my best buddies.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, longtime NHL guy, I think seventeen years in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: ANHL at one point all time winning is US born goaltender,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: possible Hall of Famer.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: He is up for the Hall of Fame this year.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: So a lot of cool names playing in this game
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: on the AVS alumni as well as the du.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Alumber Colorado Avalanche dot com slash back to Hockey for tickets.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: We have tickets will give away tomorrow on the show.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: But Johnny, you're the best, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: And you tell Yanni and Paulie the old man. I
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: don't care if he plays half a shit. I don't
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: care what it is. Peter has got to get the
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: gear on. This would be his I mean, it would
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: be history, dude.
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: I know. Trust me. It's in the works.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: As you know me.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: I'm always working on it, all right, Johnny apreciated, Johnny
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Say John Michael Isles again. August twenty third, Magnus Arena
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  Speaker 6: Individual Avalanche tickets go on sale this Friday at ten am.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: You can get the seats you want for the games
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: you want at Colorado Avalanche dot com.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: But make sure you're listening all day on Friday, we'll
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: be giving you chances to win tickets to opening Night,
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: and whether you buy them or win them, Friday's a
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: big day for the Avs fans.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: On Altitude Sports Radio VIC.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine Peter Stasney, I mean he wore obviously
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: the Nordek sweater forever Hall of Famer, one of the
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I wish him and his brothers could have
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: been there at the beginning, you know, when they were
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: just young hockey players, had to defect. Crazy story about
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: how he defected to get to play hockey in North America.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Well, Kaner defected from Nebraska.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: You'd be careful at Stasney family's Miller North Mustangs.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Yo.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: They certainly did.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: But the funny part is, I mean, Vick, we're talking
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: about midnight, midnight car chases and gunfire and it's it's amazing.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: But this guy is one of the best of all time.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: And to see Peter Stasney in an AVS sweater would
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: be magnifique.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: Pre all three five oh four, oh nine to two
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: five so lot to get to your stick ring. We
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: have ESPN on these TVs in here. It's a Little
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: League World Series going on right now. I just watched
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: his kid almost hit He hit a ball that almost
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: hit him in the face.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Amazing. You know what's what's so funny they have all
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: of these.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Whenever they put the graphics up of the kid's names,
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: they are playing the Little League World Series. It's always like,
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: this is Joe Johnson. He's a fourth grader. His favorite
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: athlete is this guy? Or his favorite movie is this
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: One of them said favorite movie was Twisters, like that
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: Twister sequel that just came out recently last year or
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: something like that. I said, that's a terrible choice. Then
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: I remember he's like, damn, I'm about to chill out.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: The eleven year old loves the Godfather.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, I caught myself. I'm like Twister.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: The kids like I love Malty's Faulty.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: I've always been picking up Ballguart guy, Hemphrey Bollguart guy,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: you know my whole life?
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Hell, what is he not?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: No?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Steve McQueen The Great Escape, You don't know that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: That is such a good movie. Don't even get me started.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Big fan of twis Angry Men over Here.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: That is such a good movie too, Dude, all the
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: stars in that one midnight run was a great movie.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: So anyway, all I gotten myself for being stupid, but
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: I was like Twisters.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, yes, no taste.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Speaking of the Little League World Series, did you see
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: that Tulsa is out? Oh?
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: God?
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I had a lot of money on Tulsa I don't.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Know what is that the one that was using an
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: illegal player?
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: Yes, oh they had they had the what like a
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Danny al Monte situation or well.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: No, apparently the kid never he doesn't live there, he
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: doesn't eat nothing.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: That sports.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Now kids are transferring high schools from states away.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: That's everything now in sports it starts young.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh entering wrong birth years and all. I mean,
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: just I'm not sure they tried to do that, but
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: it's it. That's just the way it went down.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You know, sit with me on this one for a second.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: And then they ruined you ruin it for all the
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: other kids who are doing it right. It's just it's
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: a bummer.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've always had this take, and I'm
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: glad now I have a form to share it. I've
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: always believed that youth sports shouldn't be based on age.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Vic, I get distracted.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: There's a kid that looks like Ryan Howard that plays
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: for IOWA right there.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Listen to me again. Should not be based on age
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: because some kids develop faster than others.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you something right now.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: It's it's it was such a learning experience in my life.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: This is what sports do kids. I can remember it
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: to this day. We played against Team Puerto Rico in
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: a tournament when I was eleven years old. They had mustaches,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: we did not, and they threw the ball in a
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: manner in fashion not like an eleven years That was violent.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, all stars like twelve years old down. Yes, an
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: entire roster of kids, three times.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Through a lineup, Vick, I'm telling you, twelve years old
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: we are are. Our all star team won our region, right,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: and we had to go to Richmond, California, the Bay
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Area to play the next bigger region.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Were you the manager, the.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Starting pitcher, I'm not kidding you. He was like six
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: to one with a mustache.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Bro, I'm not kidding.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: And just based on the parents, you go, we're not
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: there's they ten runned us right away. And then dude,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like, there's there's where all of us kids in
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the dog got are going.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: There's no there's no way this kid is my age.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: It's like a guy with the falsified handicap on the
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: golf tournament. I'm telling you that's why youth sports should
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: not be based on age. When I I got in
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the batter's box against Saint Cathariness is an eighth grader,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and I saw Jeff Fasquas we had a full beard
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: looking at me. I'm like, come on, I'm in eighth grade. Yeah,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do with this?
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Brett?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Needless to say, it was a It was a wasted
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: trip down to UH to Richmond, California because these kids
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: and then they everybody's like six foot and they're hitting bombs
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: off me.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I was a starting pitcher.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: I got run out of the game. It sucked. It
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: was terrible. I'm like, there's but I'm pitching the high
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: high school team. Hold on twelve. You were the starting pitcher? Well, yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: I was a good ballplayer back in the day.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Did you exceed your your pitching velocity that you displayed?
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Of course?
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: Field did they make did they make the highlight package
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: from that game of your pitches to this?
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: Did you pitch it? Did you pitch your boat shoes?
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: Did you did.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: You complain after the game? I had the wrong shoes.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I could play back in the day, I could play it,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: and I got absolutely roped by by these guys.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Are probably in double ang on. I don't know how
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: we got it this fast. Thank you, Nellie. We actually
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: got audio of Mosure right on the mound that day.
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: It was this, Oh my god, dude, we had good
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: ball players on that team.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Coming up to the plate the second batter of the game.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Dude, well you know how it goes, Brett when you
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: when you stand in there. Now, I have a good player.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, we had some really good players on my team.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: But when you see he's like you've never seen from
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: another kid. You know, You're like, there's no way that
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: that kid is twelve.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: There's no way.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Oh all right, terrible.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: By the way, we're a couple of days away from
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: the first preseason game for the Broncos, and the Broncos
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: don't really have a center right now, at least for
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: the moment. They're switching guys in and out. I still
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: wonder who is going to play in this preseason game.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: It's always.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It's always funny. It's just the most obnoxious sound. The
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: high pitch.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: You think, the high pitch sneeze is just crazy to her.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: But did you guys hear Sean Payton was asked, are
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: are starters gonna play in the game? He goes, oh, yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: there's starters is gonna play? They go, what about bow Nick?
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: He goes, We'll see. It's like, okay, so what what's
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: the line here on starters and whatever? Who's gonna play
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: on Friday? I like when Starter's playing preseason. I know
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: that the Rams take this approach where they don't play
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: the Rams preseason. They'll sign people off the street and
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: just be like, you're gonna take the hits in that game.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: It ain't gonna be Stafford. He ain't doing that.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: But is there a line that you think for veterans,
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: like X amount of years in the league, you don't
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: gotta play any snaps sort of thing.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I think that. I think honestly, Vick, I'm of the
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: belief it's football. Yeah, but even the starters should get
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: a series. You cannot mimic NFL. You can't mimic the speed.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: If the other starters. But I don't see any reason
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: why Bo wouldn't play.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: You cannot mimic National Football League speed and hitting.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: You can't.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: And guys need to take hits, and guys need to
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: give hits because what's been going on in Broncos camp
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: ain't nothing. The first real hit, I mean, the first
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: hitting period will be the first time anybody's actually brought
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: to the ground of the Denver Broncos will be Friday
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: night against Atlanta any other guys, it is, so it's
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: just me that you've got to have some of that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Do you know what happens on every single play in
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: an NFL game? For the most part, somebody gets tackled,
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: But you don't practice tackling because you can't because you're
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: scared people are gonna get hurt if you practice tackling.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: So your only practice is when the game starts. It's
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: always the weirdest thing.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: You just brought up the Rams, VIC.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: When I look at the Rams if this Aaron Donald
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: thing comes to fruition, do you realize how stacked this
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: team is on both sides of the football. Yeah, pretty
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: good effort, Kyron Williams. Pooka Davonte Woodington, Arkansas. I mean,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you that's the team to beat period.
• 42:11
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• 42:12
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• 42:55
  Speaker 5: So let's set the stage.
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: This is how Brett began things.
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  Speaker 3: Power Ball.
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  Speaker 6: It's a billion dollars with a B, which is with
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  Speaker 6: with a what with a B? You're kidding, So it's
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  Speaker 6: it's a tenth of what the jets are worth.
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  Speaker 3: We chance to win a billion.
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  Speaker 2: You can buy an NFL team with that. Think about
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  Speaker 2: it again.
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  Speaker 3: A tenth.
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  Speaker 5: Uh pow power Ball?
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was my dismount. Powerball did.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: A to all endorsers. Those are the best commercials. The
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  Speaker 5: Bick.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: When you jumped into that spot, you didn't know what
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  Speaker 4: was going on. You thought we were back on the program.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: You had you had.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: No idea what the hell was actually happened.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I don't do spots like you guys do. I don't
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: read copy.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I just start talking. I just let the copy read me.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: Everybody get a get a fire pit. Nick, you know
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: what was in the copy? You're totally right, wasn't The copy.
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  Speaker 3: Was Powerball get one. That's what they had written.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Love you.
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  Speaker 3: You're paying attention. Uh Powerball get one today