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256: Sister Wives Recap - One on One Part Four - Season 19 Finale! · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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  Speaker 1: of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my real
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  Speaker 1: We are here for the conclusion finally of Sister Wives
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  Speaker 1: season nineteen. We're gonna be recapping the fourth out of
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  Speaker 1: four of the tail alls.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going astrol.
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  Speaker 1: My god, I am so over it. I can't even
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  Speaker 1: We're at base camp two. Yeah, base camp too, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm acclamating it. So thank you in advances. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I just have to warn everybody my energy is a
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  Speaker 1: little low tonight because my husband, her freaking husband. My husband.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I love don't get me wrong, we love him
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  Speaker 1: very much. He traveled yet again.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: He got his big ol' tixis body on a plane,
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  Speaker 1: went to Boston, and the day before he comes home
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  Speaker 1: he texts me yet again.
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  Speaker 2: Every time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting sick, every time, every every time time he travels,
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  Speaker 1: literally every time.
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  Speaker 2: It's always at the end of his trip.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: He'll message you late at night, I'm getting sick, I know.
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  Speaker 1: And then he brings that crud home to me, and
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  Speaker 1: then within four days or whatever, you're still getting sick,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm starting to get sick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Plus, I'm just over it with sister wives. I'm stas.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm a little weird or if I just
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  Speaker 1: don't get that is why. If I'm just I ain't
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  Speaker 1: got nothing for these people. Not over it, nothing, Any
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  Speaker 1: takeaway from you after watching the final tell all, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I got two takeaways. Okay, one, I'm also
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  Speaker 2: over it. I'm so tired of it. After this tell all,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't remember anything. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: y'all are saying. I don't care what y'all are saying.
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  Speaker 2: My second takeaway is that it's too much Cody and Robin. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like so many clips of Cody and Robin. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care about these people. I don't care about
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  Speaker 2: your dumb love story.
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  Speaker 1: Your sex before marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Lightning bolts, and your pussies.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't give it.
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  Speaker 1: I know nobody does. No, that's your thought. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: think we all agree. I think we can go sign
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  Speaker 1: on that one. My thought is just I need a break.
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  Speaker 1: I just need a break. I think next week, if
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  Speaker 1: we could just take a week off, sounds great before
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  Speaker 1: we dive right back into rewind and I know, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Plaid phill is coming back? When is that again?
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  Speaker 2: July July something? July eighteenth, twenty is?
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was like in the beginning of July.
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  Speaker 1: I don't tell July, like we're still commiserating as to
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  Speaker 1: whether we're going to watch that, so before we start
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  Speaker 1: watching anything new and covering the old stuff too, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I just need a week, yeah, to take a break,
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  Speaker 1: to get into coffin with some of those little brown
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  Speaker 1: kids and just just have a moment to myself in
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  Speaker 1: the dark. That is what I need. I think that's fair, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And so next week we are not going to be here,
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  Speaker 1: from us even though we take a one week break
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  Speaker 1: please and thank you. All right, well, take it away
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  Speaker 1: for this final recap of season nineteen, episode twenty nine,
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, absolutely insane, way too long for a season in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion. But we start off wrapping up the conversation
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  Speaker 2: from last week about the freak and luggage Rag who
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  Speaker 2: Cares and Robin getting her needs met aka her box it,
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  Speaker 2: And then we talk about Cody and his obsession with
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  Speaker 2: appearances and people looking good who cares, which we talked
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  Speaker 2: about a lot.
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  Speaker 1: We had already talked about this to death, I mean
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  Speaker 1: to my death in a coughin I'm dead.
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  Speaker 2: Like we're talking about the camping story again and showing
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  Speaker 2: the clip of Christine in the U haul with David
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  Speaker 2: talking about the camps we.
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  Speaker 1: Had already seen. First of all, we saw it the
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  Speaker 1: first time they aired it hut out, and then we.
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  Speaker 3: Saw it the second time during the tail all the
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  Speaker 3: year we played it, Yeah, and now we got to
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  Speaker 3: watch it again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we have to talk about it again
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  Speaker 2: about how Cody is self centered and he only cares
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  Speaker 2: about appearances.
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  Speaker 1: Yes we know, duh, Yes we know. Tell me something
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard it.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that was interesting about this was that
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  Speaker 2: Robin with her hard jaw, is denying the camping story
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  Speaker 2: even though it's literally on film.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't she know that it's on film? Doesn't know that
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  Speaker 1: Hunter was getting upset because no, he was helping. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: she know that there is footage of her putting on
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  Speaker 1: her beat makeup and getting herself together out in Big
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  Speaker 1: Bear or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't recall, gosh, I don't recall I remember pitching in.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I pitched in, though I like cooked her something.
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  Speaker 2: I took turns cooking. I did my fair share. They're
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  Speaker 2: just poking fun at me. That's not true, she says, yes,
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  Speaker 2: when it's on film. I'm just like, why aren't we
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  Speaker 2: calling her out?
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  Speaker 1: Like why would it cost you production to just roll
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  Speaker 1: the tape? I wunder and just roll the damp tape.
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  Speaker 2: They show it in the clip like they show like
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  Speaker 2: a montage to us. I don't think they showed it
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  Speaker 2: to them.
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  Speaker 1: Watch the clips.
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  Speaker 2: She won't.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe Sukie could have said something like, well, if
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  Speaker 1: you had watched the clip, then we just showed you
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  Speaker 1: you would have saw yourself put in the makeup on.
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  Speaker 2: She would have just said some shit like oh, they
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  Speaker 2: edited it, they edited it out. I was actually helping,
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  Speaker 2: like she probably would have just made it up. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like Robin.
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  Speaker 1: Lies on lies on lies on lies.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, why can't would it kill you to tell
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  Speaker 2: the truth once in your life.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't know how, No, she is not in her No.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all. And then we have David on the
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  Speaker 2: couch for some reason talking about polygamy, talking about how
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  Speaker 2: it's all about control, how he apparently dated other ex
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  Speaker 2: polygamous women and the men just completely ruined them. But
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  Speaker 2: thank god for.
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  Speaker 1: CHRISTINEO Diamond in the Rough. Yeah, that was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of an ify commentary a lot of women in general.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean he does have family members, sisters, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: specifically who are in or were in polygamy, so he
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  Speaker 1: did have some observations. But yeah, it sucks. Polygamy is
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  Speaker 1: terrible to women, polygamy is terrible for children, and he
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  Speaker 1: knows it and he's seen it firsthand.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to hear those comments from the women, though,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like David's the one that's
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  Speaker 2: articulating it. But I'm like Christine, like you have said
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  Speaker 2: a million times on our episodes, like Christine was the
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  Speaker 2: one championing polygamy and advocating for it and these earlier
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  Speaker 2: seasons like it'd be cool she just said, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: realized that polygamy is actually fucking bad for women. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and not empowering at all. And really awful.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really good point because we do see Christine
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  Speaker 1: advocating for herself and calling things out in the relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Cody and within the family structure, but like, she's
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  Speaker 1: really not commenting a lot on polygamy in general or
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  Speaker 1: the religion in general, even though she has left it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if she believes anymore. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the status of her faith is. It would be
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  Speaker 1: great if we could get something from her on that.
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  Speaker 1: But no, but no, but alass nothing for us Raccoons,
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  Speaker 1: the dubut nothing at all, the faithful fans of this
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  Speaker 1: freaking show. Maybe it'll be in her book, which we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to buy for thirty four dollars inflation.
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  Speaker 2: That's not even written by her, I.
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  Speaker 1: Know, it's totally AI chat GPT.
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  Speaker 2: And then we talk about Cody putting himself first, like
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  Speaker 2: we didn't already know that, and we have Mary defending
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  Speaker 2: the fact that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ending this season hating Mary again. Oh my god, Mary,
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were worthying of. No. I thought you
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  Speaker 1: were trying to show up for women. I thought you
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: were doing some motivational speaking for women to encourage them
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  Speaker 1: to better their lives. And this is what you're giving us. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course he puts himself first, but so do I,
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  Speaker 1: so does everybody every once in a while. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: miss me.
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  Speaker 2: With that, she feels like she's the worst. It kind
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  Speaker 2: of feels like she thinks that she's being so profound
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  Speaker 2: by saying that. No, I see all sides of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so diploma.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: Everyone can be kind of selfish. Sometimes it's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not what we're saying. We're saying that Cody objectively
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  Speaker 2: always puts himself first.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was, as a matter of fact, abusive
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  Speaker 1: to his wives. Yeah, at least on television, we saw
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  Speaker 1: him be verbally and emotionally abusive to his wives and
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  Speaker 1: to his children. Hello. And so if you want to
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  Speaker 1: be some sort of paragon of values and what women
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  Speaker 1: should be doing in terms of advocating for themselves, then
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  Speaker 1: call the crap out honestly.
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  Speaker 2: But she can't do.
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  Speaker 1: It, which is why I don't trust her. Me neither,
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  Speaker 1: and that she's worthied of.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so talk about trusting how she said
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  Speaker 2: last episode, I don't know who to trust. I can't
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  Speaker 2: trust you.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody can trust her, God, nobody can trust her.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have Christine saying that she was never
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  Speaker 2: really respected from Cody or by Cody as a wife,
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  Speaker 2: as a mother, as a person, and Cody was calling
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  Speaker 2: her a shitter wife instead of sister shy.
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  Speaker 1: That's a crazy Was that a joke? I don't think
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  Speaker 1: is he walking around calling them sh It's kind of funny,
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  Speaker 1: but terrible, very bad. But do we think that back
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  Speaker 1: in the day, like during Lehigh and certainly in the
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  Speaker 1: beginning when they moved to Vegas, that Cody really didn't
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  Speaker 1: value her for being a mom and taking care of
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  Speaker 1: all of his whole mess of kids.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to say, because I feel like if Cody
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  Speaker 2: was the same person that we see now back then,
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  Speaker 2: even slightly, I could see him not really respecting her.
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  Speaker 2: But like, at the same time, I wonder if Christine's
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  Speaker 2: just painting it bad because like their whole marriage was bad.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's the case. But at the same time, Christine
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  Speaker 2: was the basement wife, so maybe she wasn't really respected
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  Speaker 2: because she was the one stuck in the basement and
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  Speaker 2: forced to take care of all the kids and homeschool
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  Speaker 2: them and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just I find it kind
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  Speaker 1: of hard to believe that he never valued her, or
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  Speaker 1: that he never worked for the family and worked to
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  Speaker 1: please his wives. I think once Robin entered the scene,
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  Speaker 1: that is when everything shifted. Yeah, that is when things
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  Speaker 1: got bad, and all of the marriage is zilla except
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  Speaker 1: for Robinson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. And then the last part of this section
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  Speaker 2: was Cody talking about how he was mean to the
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  Speaker 2: og wives only as a reaction to them being did
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  Speaker 2: not believe it was Counterpunchy was.
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  Speaker 1: Saying that like that it was reactive abuse, Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: being abused by these women who were trashing me on TV,
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  Speaker 1: and so of course I'm going to react to that.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're the one.
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  Speaker 1: Who did the knife and the kidneys. Christine is sitting
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  Speaker 1: there peaceible, saying nothing, and you're the one screaming.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw all.
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  Speaker 1: Of those meetings you had with her at the big
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  Speaker 1: Mormon conference table negotiating your divorce. She was eminently respectful.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't ask for hardly anything but what she put
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: into her own house in order to leave. Like, what
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: are you talking about the only person who started the
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: campaign against the wives and the kids who you called
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: assholes by Yeah, how you called your son's assholes and
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: you've called out Maddie, that's you. Yeah, none of that
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  Speaker 1: was reactive. I just couldn't believe it. And I think
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Robin said something somewhere in this episode as well, like
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: that her family was taken from her. Yes, I'm like
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: that the family and the dream was taken from you. No,
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  Speaker 1: you destroyed it. You had a hand in dismantling it.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: But the language that they used to describe what's happened
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  Speaker 1: when we've all seen it is just so wild and
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  Speaker 1: disturbing to me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they're like straight up delusional. Like when he's saying this,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you for real right now? Like that's
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: how you person this situation? Like are we gonna forget
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: about the fact that you told Christine that she was
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: repulsive when she ate nachos and that you were never
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  Speaker 2: physically attracted to her and that you didn't want to
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: have any intimacy with her whatsoever. But that's not mean.
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  Speaker 2: That's just you telling her the truth that you're gonna
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: cut off an intimate marriage with her, and then she
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  Speaker 2: leaves you, and that's mean. So now it justifies you
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: screaming at her and saying all this bullshit for the
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: last couple of seasons, and I think Robin said at
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  Speaker 2: some point, like, you know, I feel like really bad
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: because the world only gets to see this one version
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: of Cody, which is this mean version, and it's the
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: worst version of him, you know, but he's actually like
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  Speaker 2: a good guy though, right, Like okay, miss me with that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think she was trying to say that for
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  Speaker 1: the last three to four years specifically, like this version
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  Speaker 1: of Cody has been like who people have been seeing,
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  Speaker 1: but that that's not who he is. Like he's the
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Cody from way back in the day. Sure now emerging
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: from his angry season, his mannosphere hate, and he's starting
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  Speaker 1: to be happy again. So but I'm just like, yeah, no, yeah, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: He's always been problematic, and.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like somebody talked to him. I feel like
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: somebody in production talked to him about how he came
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: off the last couple of seasons. Was like, dude, they
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: pulled a scandalal and like, hey, we have to rehab
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: your image a little bit, right, right, let's kind of
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: turn the tide so that way people stop hating you
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: because you're actually insane. But I don't know, I just
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: couldn't believe he said that. I was really mean because
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: they were mean to me.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: For he and Janelle is the Ariana Maddox in this
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: scenario because she's just like, I just don't care, like
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: at all, don't I'm just gonna walk out in this
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: entire situation. I'm not going to comment on it. Like whatever,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: they can do, whatever they want to do. I'm over
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  Speaker 1: here living my best life with my farm on farmers
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  Speaker 1: only dot com or whatever, and I'm good, yes, And
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a sexual earth mama girl, I'm a Taurus. Has
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: she been watching us?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like watching I kind of felt like.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: It, and we have been out here saying that she
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: does give some sensual sl and she's got that Taurus
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: sensuality governed by venus. Yeah I get it. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I get what she was putting down.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: I loved that She's like, I'm a Taurus. I'm an
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: earth mama. I love everything earthy food, one sex. I'm like, yes, girl,
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  Speaker 2: me more. Oh my god, find yourself a real man.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Get your back blown out.
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  Speaker 1: And she's talking about watching her kids who are married
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  Speaker 1: and the relationships that they have and how the husbands
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: and she must be referring to Caleb. How Caleb dotes
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: on Maddie and how they're so connected, and she's like,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'm ready for a relationship like that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I would love to see that me too. I would
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: love to see Janelle's dating journey instead of talking about
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  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin and when they first met, because that's
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the next clip that we get to where we go
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: to that stupid date in the addict of Josephine's Beastroom, right,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: and Cody and Robin are recounting their love story and
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the lightning bolts that they felt in both of their
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: pussies and now they just fell for each other instantly.
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  Speaker 2: Cody starts crying watching the clip back.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I hate him so much. I feel like he's performative emotions. Yes,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: oh my god.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I was just like, I feel like he does that
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: just so maybe we think that he's a human being
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: right with feelings. I think so, And I'm like, I don't.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think of you as a human being. I
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: think you're a demon possessed, balding, saggy balls.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Piece of shit, a piece of shit.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Leyton Topin's homosexual.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe probably end when we talk about it, because he
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: referred to it as his sexuality. I don't want to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: talk about my sexuality.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Ain't nobody talking about his sexuality when you're talking about
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: your sexual experience. I caught that you're the one who
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: said you had them. And when he comes back the
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: next day, I guess, presumably to talk to Suki. Yeah,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden about his sexuality and it was
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: a dangerous unsafe topic to discuss, Like, why is this
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: so unsafe.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Because you had a homosexual experience.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And he did say that they thought his high school
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: friends thought he was not just gay flamboyantly gay, flamboyantly
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: gay in high school.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: That means Robin probably pigs him. I've been saying I.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Feel and there's no shame in that. And if they
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: like that, I love that great, I guess. But yeah,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, that was an interesting turn
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: of phrase.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I saw that I heard.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, did you pick up on that?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like you gay. And we've had several people
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: comment on YouTube saying the same thing that they think
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Cody's gay.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean a little bit around the edges.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at the very least bisex sicoal, Yeah, a
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: little bi curious. Sure, I don't know, but he's taught
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: he talks about in this clip at Josephine's Bistro, back
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to how he told Robin like within a month of
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: dating about his college gay sex experience because she was
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: so trustworthy and she what did he say? Laid him
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: down in a rose garden of trust.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I immediately started drawing up merch on our canva. Did
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you see it?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I saw it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: It's a big at raccoon in the rose garden and
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: it's the rose Garden of trash, Like we need that shirt.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I hate it so much for real. Yeah, So I
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: just thought that he was being so ridiculous, and I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: think Janelle addresses it in this episode when she talks
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: about how extra he's being. Why, Like, what's he getting
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: out of talking about these subjects? Like previously, he never
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about sex, never want to talk about money,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But here he is talking about both of these things,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and for what reason? To show us just how much
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: he loves Robin and how real their union is, therefore
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: maybe validating why he threw his entire rest of his
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: family away. Yep, that makes sense to me.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think Janelle's clocking him every time she makes
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: a comment. I feel like she's right on the nose,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: because I think she said something like he says all
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: of this shit about how Robin was safe and how
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the OG three were not safe and he couldn't be
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: vulnerable with them because they were so unsafe, and how
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: it was all bullshit that he's just making up because
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: he's just trying to justify all the reasons why Robin
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: is so perfect. And I thought that was kind of
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: an interesting like phrase, because maybe Cody doesn't think Robin's
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: like super perfect, but she's the only one that's left.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm conflicted on that because I do
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: think he is one hundred percent sprung for her. Yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I think he is in love with her, but I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily buy into their meat cute and how that
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: went down. And furthermore, like somebody correct me if I'm wrong,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I could a swore in season one, which we have
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: covered in our rewind like Mary was the one who
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: said and like Cody and Mary talked about the fact
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: that Mary introduced Robin to Cody and yeah, my friends,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and I thought that I thought that that was established,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and now we have Mary saying I never introduced them.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like people are just making that up
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: in the Twitter sphere, and I'm like, what do you mean.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like you asked about it. Yeah. Well, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: it's like the the way that they're recounting it is
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: so weird. Like Cody talks about his lightning bolt and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: his pussy when he saw Robin at church, but they
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: didn't actually meet. They just saw each other from like
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: opposite side of the room.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And then and he stared at her like in a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: trance with a heart on, like just watching her, a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: little noodle on, just watching her, and she was looking
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: at him, and then she had to look away because
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: he was being a pred and that was scary.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they didn't actually talk. Yeah, that's when
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: apparently Robin got her lightning bolt, and clearly Cody got his.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't until some other time when him and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Mary were in a car and they were on the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: side of the road or something like that, Robin and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: her cousin and her cousin's husband or something.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Something like that. But then they said that they met
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: at a dance.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but they were talking on the side
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of the road, and Cody's like, yeah, I didn't really
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: speak to her because I was a little bit embarrassed.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Completely was in a trance because of her beauty. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was dissociating it was in the fifth dimension with you
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: because of the beauty of it at all. So I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: didn't say anything. And then at some other point there
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: was a church.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Dance that they all went to.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Is anybody else curious, like what kind of music they're
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: listening to? You at a Mormon church dance?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Mormon hymns?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: No Mormons have him of course? Oh yeah, okay, but
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like really what kind of means?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Then he goes on to like quote the dance by
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Garth Brooks at some point like maybe it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Was Oh yeah, I was just trying to envision it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: It was very strange.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: The kids bought version of Garth Brooks song.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: But like, also, did Cody say at one point like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Robin actually gave him the ick because she was married,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: oh yeah and had divorced. Like he was not interested
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: in the least adag Yeah, I thought, he said. And
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so now what about what you said
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: all those seasons ago? Is all of that just a lie?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Or are you lying now? Make it makes sense.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, all of it I think is a lie
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: because they, like Christine said, they were so in love
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they had to hide it. So what else were they hiding?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: And then they had this long courtship of a year,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: which Janelle comments on, and this is where she says,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: we've seen it already in the brevious, that if she
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: had a year long courtship with Cody, she probably wouldn't
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: have married him, and that a married man having a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: year long courtship is not necessarily appropriate. But they still
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: did it anyway, and Christine even makes the assumption like, well,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: what else were they doing? He was very comfortable at
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: her house, even in her bedroom, and so maybe they
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: fucked before marriage. I'm paraphrasing, but it's basically what Christine said.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: So where do we land with that? Do we think
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that they were sexually intimate before they actually had this ceremony? Yes,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: because when they panned to Robin and Suki has the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: nerve to ask her whether she had sex before marriage
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: with Cody, Yeah, Rob is like, absolutely not. I mean,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: all we did was church kiss. There was nothing there.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: She's such a liar, I don't know.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: She seemed kind of convincing to me. Like she was
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: so taken aback that anybody would ever question that. But
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: then I go back through the rolodex of my mind
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: to season one during the wedding where she and Cody
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: pick out the wedding dress and pretend that she's going
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to go shopping with the other wives, and everything is
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a lie.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, So I think she was lying.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And her engagement photo with Cody, like she is,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: she got that pushing it up against that nck. She
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: pressed into the neck of that man as if they
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: were acquainted one with the.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Other, And Christine says that too. She's like they were
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: awfully comfy in their engagement photos. So yeah, I think
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Robin has just been saying that lie for the what
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: last twelve thirteen years that they've been together, So I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: think she's good at lying it. But they one hundred
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: percent we're fucking before marriage, right.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And this is where Christine I think is right and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: is very believable when she's like they have to hide it,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and she has said in the past during these tellaws
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that yeah, Cody I think fell in love yeah, and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: did not really know what that felt like until he
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: met Robin. But because they were in the family that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: they were in and now they had a television show
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: on top of that, they had to hide it. But
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that's a lie. Yeah, And you didn't tell the truth
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: about the scope and the scale of your feelings, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you led me on and then you turned off the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: intimacy and you didn't respect the things that I was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: bringing it into the family, And that's a lie. So
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it's just betrayal after betrayal after betrayal. But exactly Cody
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and Robin cannot not just acknowledge that. They can't even
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: admit that, No, they can't even approach admitting to that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: No. In fact, Cody talks about all of this stuff
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: we're saying as just being internet bs that everybody's saying
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: that we had the intentions of only being together as
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: just a bunch of drama. There was no real intent
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to do that or just to be with each other.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: But we fell in love. And then he goes on
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to say that polygamy doesn't work if you actually fall
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: in love, and he fell in love hard, and so
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: it's like he's admitting it without really admitting it, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: that's what's so annoying about it, Like, why, yeah, you
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: just say that you fell out of love the second
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you met Robin. With all the other wives, you could
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: have released them back then, but you wanted the money,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you wanted the show, you wanted the big houses in
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the cul de Sac, and you, I guess you tried
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to make it work, but like you didn't know.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And he can't admit that it was Robin that changed everything.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And so this is why he says something like, well,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: with Mary, it did start off as a love match
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and a love connection, and it was very sweet and romantic,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: but it died by like a thousand paper cuts or
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: whatever you set like something like again shifting the blame
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: back onto them. But really he's blaming Mary and their
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: behavior for the reason that their marriage didn't work, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: not Robin. And that's where he needs to be honest
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and truthful, and honestly, I wouldn't care, Like if you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: just came out and said, yeah, it was a thunderbolt
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: ride him a pussy yeah, And I just I could
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: not I could not even consider my other wives the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: same anymore, Like everything changed on that day. Like if
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you could admit that, I could accept that, and I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: think for the other women and the kids could act.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But it's the fact that you just lie over and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: over and over again, and you have the temerity to
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: do so while there is a visual record of you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: doing the things you said you didn't do. It's crazy,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it's so, it's crazy making. It's a gas lighting, all yes.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: With Robin. It's like, why don't you just say it,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just say that you knew you had
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: him ninety nine percent of the time and that you
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: understand why the other women felt like they were abandoned,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Like you just don't care. You only care about your money.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Do you think like that would make you look worse
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: than what you're doing in order to cover up the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: fact that he was with you all the time, which
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: everybody already knows. Right, It's the thing, It doesn't make
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: any sense.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't understand how they think, Like I
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: wonder if they actually believe all the lies that they're saying,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: If they're like so in denial about the fact that
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: they just fell in love with each other, you think
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: they're just lying.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I think they know that they're lying. Yes, then what
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and nobody's stopping them? And that's the thing they can
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: do that with impunity. Nobody's rolling the tapes so Kia's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: not call them about Sukiana hasn't even watched the seasons, right,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: she didn't even know that Cody was a wrestler or
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: like what kind of athletics he did. Like, there's a
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: lot of things that she just doesn't know in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: in the canon of Sister Wives, and so she can't
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: retort with something salient and say, well, what about this?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: What about that? And so nobody ever does. And you
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: even hear him at the end of this episode telling
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: everybody to turn off the cameras, cut the camera.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: So is he in charge of production? Why is production
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: just doing what the fuck Cody's telling them to do.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Why doesn't anybody push back? Because I'm telling you right now,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: this is all he has, sister does all Cody and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Robin have? Sure, so you could absolutely push back. Why
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: aren't we doing that? I thought we got a new
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: production house or like a new person in charge of
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the production house. It's like, where is the change? Why
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: are we continuing to coddle this man? And he was
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: triggering me, Beatrice with the way he was looking at Sukian. Oh,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: there is something about it that reminded me of my
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: abusive father. Just like the he slows down and turns
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and very threateningly looks at her and says, I'm not
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: talking about that anymore. Yeah, I'm just like, there is
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: a verbal threat, yep, and it's menacing to me. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that he wasn't physically threatening her in the moment,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: But I wonder about how he conducts himself behind the scenes.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in his various marriages and even with Robin,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're scary. There's parts of you that are
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: scaring me.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: It's really freaking weird that production and Suki are like
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say that they're scared of him,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: but they just placate him a lot. And I'm like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: why aren't we buying him? Like why are we even
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: allowing him to say I'm not going to answer that
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: or not going to talk about that. If he wants
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to get up off set and leave and not get
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: paid for two other tellols let him fucking go because
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I don't show his character. I don't know why we
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: have to like keep him on or like try and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: be nice and say thank you for your account on
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: ability when he gave absolutely none.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Like, honestly, where's the value added? With Cody and Robin
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: because they don't tell the truth. They just obstruct and obfuscate,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: like they screw up the timeline. They confuse the audience
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: because they're telling us that something didn't happen that we
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: already watched happen. And so what are they actually adding
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to the story of Sister Wives at this point? Why
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: couldn't we just get rid of them or have them
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: be friends of like they do on the Bravo shows
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and the Real Housewives. Robin can be a friend of
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: no one, Cody can be a friend of I don't know.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Is there a kid there's still who is she be
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a friend of Mary's. Yes, he can travel to Parawan
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: every once in a while, and we can see what's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: going on with Cody. But like they do not have
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to be major cast members in the show. Get rid
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I know. It's so weird. And I noticed his comment
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: at the end where he's like, cut the cameras, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you just saying that to feel like
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you're a big man, like you're the director, but you
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: actually aren't, like nobody's listening to you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Well, they did, they cut the They do listen to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: him and that's the question. Why why they do though, well,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and you know that they do because they don't challenge
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: him ever. And he is so puffed up with the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: power of that he understands. Ain't nobody going to be
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: pushing him around. He can get away with whatever he
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: can try and front with Suki like this, and nobody's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: going to do anything about it, And so he does it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have moral character, He doesn't have virtue in
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: my personal opinion, to talk to a woman like that
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and to stare at a woman like that, to lean forward.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And he did it last year. He did and nobody
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: talked to him last year when he did it.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: No, I know he's comfortable to just do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It again this year. Oh my God, give me five
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: minutes with that small little man. Give me five.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Minutes with that small little bab you would be I.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Will teach him a lesson. I will teach that man
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a lesson. I wouldn't be scared to do so. God,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And I just feel it's on the tip of Suki's tongue.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But she's a smart woman. I actually went on her
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Instagram to because I wanted to see if there was
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: any new posts from her, because she hadn't posted pretty
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: much at all through thee she got so much hate, right,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: but there were a couple of clips from her interview
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: with Sarah Frasier, and then there were people on the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: posts just kind of slamming her, like why didn't you
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: ask her? Why didn't you ask them the questions? Why
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: don't you know what you're talking about? And I just
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: left her a message and said, hey, I think you
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: did a good job. I know it must have been
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: very difficult to have to finesse this interview employee strategy
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: just to get them to say anything like you did
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a good job and thank you very much, because I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: just feel like, what a thankless job Suki has.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I mean really though, And like I'm of two minds
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: with Suki. It's like I get that you have to
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: tread lightly with these narcissistic demons like Robin and Cody,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I understand, And like maybe she's held to a certain
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: contract with production too, like maybe they're like you can't
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: ask him certain things or you can't do these kinds
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: of things. I get that it's difficult. Well, it's just
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: so fucking frustrating to watch it, and I just don't
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: understand why Production does this, and like, why we are
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: being so kind to Cody and Robin, Like when everyone
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: in the entire world hates them, like every single I
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: don't think there's anybody that's like, you know what, I
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: think Rabbit's a good person.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And yeah, and they're hated bulls. Yeah, and their actions
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: have they become hatterable people. Right, It's not like we
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: hate them in a vacuum. It's they've done terrible, despicable things.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: That we're not addressing to their family, and.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: We're just not able to talk about any of it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And if we do, they're just gonna lie about it
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and we're not going to challenge them.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Well, and it's like with Cody getting
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: mad at Suki for asking him about his homosexuality, and like,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you're the one that problems up, dude. I think you're
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the one that talked about your college gay sex experience, right, didn't.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: He gets so angry because he frames it as some
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: sort of a trap, like she was asking inappropriate questions
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and he was so kind to be generous and give
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: her some information, but like she kept pressing it and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: he's really angry about it. I'm just like, get over yourself, dude, Honest,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you're the one who's mentioned before that you had a
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: pre marital relationship in college or whatever. Did he even
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: go to college? Did he go to college? Maybe associates, okay,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: but whatever. But you're the one who've already entered into
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: evidence that bit of information.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: So I don't know why you're so upset about it.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. You're the one that brought out
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: the story, but then you don't want people to ask
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: you about it.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe because if we dig a little deeper, maybe we
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: can find out who it was that you actually had
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a pre marital affair with. And what if it's a bead,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: it probably it probably is juice.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I would love to know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: You imagine if Harry actually is a man out there
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that like fucked Cody Brown, he's just like sitting on
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: that secret, just waiting for the perfect time to talk
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: about it. I would love that.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would love it as well. And it would
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: be perfect karma for him because I do believe that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: he never told Christine and Janelle about that pre marital
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: affair because it was an ego thing, like he didn't
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: want to bring shame upon himself or show himself to
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Janelle and Christine as if he didn't have the appropriate
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Mormon values, right, So that's why he didn't.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Do it well. And it would make sense because Janelle
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and Christine were like pretty heavy in the faith, I mean,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: not that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Mary was married before those well yeah, and she had
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: gotten a deep dick in from from Mary's brother. Yeah,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: she really.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Would have been fine with yeah, but that's it was
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting that he says this, and he's like, oh,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't tell the otherwise because they weren't safe. Because
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Christine talks about how she felt like that was a
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: big betrayal, like just another one to add to the list,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: because apparently after twenty seven years of marriage, like I
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: was just not safe, Like I don't know what I
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: did to not be safe. And it's just like, well,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Cody didn't love you, Like that's just what it is.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: He didn't care, he didn't care about and he neglected you.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: By the time we meet you Christine in season one,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: he's neglecting you and he's not sharing about you at all.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: And maybe he was a great husband before, but we
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: just never saw this is the only relationship we've ever seen.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Even then, I questioned how good he was because he
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: was like the first guy she was ever really with,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: so she didn't have any other frame of reference. He
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: probably was doing the absolute bare minimum. I thought it
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: were fine, yep, and it's sad. And then we get
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: to the last clip of the episode, which is about
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the Sedona marriage retreat, and then Suki asks the dumb
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: fucking question, the dumbest question to ask you.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: No, First, she asked, Christine, are you happier now or
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: were you happier then in the season that you went
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: to Sedona and had to get in your circle and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: tell everybody that you were completely disconnected from her husband
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and unloved truly, like, are you happier now? Obviously? Yes,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I'm happier now. I'm monogamous and married to David. He
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: breaks my back, he blows my back out. He blows
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: my backout. Sorry, I'm tired, he blows my back out.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I'm financially independent. I have like four homes or would
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: have I lost forty pounds, I'm in great shape and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I'm in my life. I got a titty tattoo. That's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a dumb question, Suki.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: So I'm just like, why are we even asking, right?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: So stupid to like waste the last like twenty minutes
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: of the episode, like, are you happy we live polygamy again? Janelle?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Are you open to polygamy? Mary? Are you open to polygamy?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: We've already asked good questions.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Robin, are you open tot polygamy? Right? And it's like
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: all the same answers that we've already said, Like Mary
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: will never do it again because she's gonna be monogamous.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Although she believes that polygamy can work in the right situation.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Yep. Janelle says she's kind of open to it, but
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: then she looks at her monogamous you know kids and
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: their marriages, and it's like, oh, yeah, maybe I want that. Yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: maybe I want one man to give me a dig down,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: right and only that. And then Robin is like, well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I'll only do it if I get a crazy guarantee
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: that it'll work, and then I can siphon all of
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the money for my other sister wives and they will
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: not complain about it, and only if Cody's okay with it,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: but he's not okay.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: With it, and only if Sister Wives is canceled, unless
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Cody considers getting another wife, because if they give us
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: an ultimatum, then we'll absolutely do it, yeah, or we'll
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: end up on marriage boot.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Camp exactly, Like could you imagine?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I would love it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I would love that they still do that. I would
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: actually watch that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: If it was Cody, we would recap it. He would
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: all be in the dumpster together, be so good.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: And then Cody talks about they talk about like if
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin ever break up, that they would never
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: speak badly of each other because they have so much
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: deep love for each other.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: She would throw him under the bus in a hot minute.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: That's like, look what she did to her first husband.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: She would take all of your kids and leave. And honestly,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I kind of want that to happen me too. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: don't want to.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Just sit there in Flagstaff in shock, Oh my god,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: having lost everything, that big ugly new mansion foreclosed ponds,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Rob skipping out of town with some new aub daddy.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Who you got? You got? Nobody be calling it Mary
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: in parauad You're dating into Bud and marry so awesome.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Mary would take him back in a heartbeat.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: As of this filming of this, tell all, I kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of feel like she would.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Dude, if Robin left him and he had nobody else,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: and no young girl wants to fuck that guy. He
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: would totally go to Mary, and Mary be like, oh
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: my god, I've been waiting for this day. Mm hmm,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: am I worthy?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Don't want to like shit all over Mary, but like
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I do this epic of her, I'm just like, I'm
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: so tired of her defending.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: She could have done it so much differently.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: She's like trying to like position herself as like, oh,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just like being nice and like I'm being the
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: bigger person by not talking badly. It's like, but we
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: want you to talk badly.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: We need truth tellers. We need people to expose the hypocrisy.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: We need you to be honest. It's very, very important
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: that you are. But let's keep in mind again we
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: say that this was filmed in October of last year,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and I think what we had one month of episodes
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that were out by that point. Yeah, So when Mary's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: filming this, she hasn't seen the entire season like the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: rest of us have seen, so she doesn't see all
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the other things that Cody has said, to include calling
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Jen and her friends bitches and such, which made her
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: very upset. So maybe that will be the impetus for
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: us to get like a different Mary with a little
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: bit of fire in truth Telling for season twenty. But
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I highly doubt it because she disappoints us season after
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: season after season, and I think it's okay to call
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: it out. Mary, you can do so much better, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you should.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: And the other layer to that is like, maybe she
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: just needs to get her back.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Look, maybe she needs to meet like a real man,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a good man, good somebody who takes care of her,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: puts her first, and she can see what that life
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: is really like, because did she ever have that with Cody. Yes,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: they had young love, maybe they were their first loves,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: but she's probably never had that kind of a relationship
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that so many of us have been able to enjoy.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: So I do think that would in a moment change
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: her parents.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Oh definitely, because she says in this episode it's been
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a very very very very long time since she's gotten
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a good deep dicken, And so I'm like, maybe you
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: need that, because maybe you'll see the light and you'll
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: realize that simping over Cody Brown is not the.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Look, not at all.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And I guess that's kind of how we ended the
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: episode with Sukie thanking everybody for their time, and she
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: really hopes that one day we could do it all
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: on the same couch with everybody in the same room,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: and Cody's like, that's never gonna happen because I'm the director.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: And then she thanks Cody for his vulnerability and his
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: honesty and his accountability, and that shit pisses me off
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, what honesty? What accountability? He hasn't been
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: accountable for literally anything, literally, and the.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Name one thing that he was actually accountable for in
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: this tale all.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Like, I guess he admitted to actually loving Mary back
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: in the day and he actually did love the OG three,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: but that's literally it. Oh And I forgot to mention
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: that when she asks them, would they do it all
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: over again?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Would they do polygamy all over again? Yeah? And Cody
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: says no. Yeah, he says no, even if I went
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: back in time, I still wouldn't do it again.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: That was wild because I thought when he was saying no,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: he was saying I wouldn't do it now, yeah, like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: it would never be a polygamist again because I've already
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: failed it that But like he did say that he
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it all over again, didn't.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: He Yes, he said I would not do it over again.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And then he backtracks and he's like, but I mean,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I'm grateful for my kids and the experience that I had,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: but like, I still would never do it again. And
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: then he literally calls it a waste of time, Like, okay,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: but everybody else is mean though, right when you're talking
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: about your eighteen children and how that was a waste
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: of time and how this family that you created with
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: your sperm and everything was a waste of time and
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't do it over again.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Well, he was just being reactive. Yeah, we can't blame
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: him for.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: That reactionary abuse because he's a trauma victim.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: That's right. Handle him with kid gloves, very gentle with
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Cody Brown.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I hate him, man, I hate him and his goblin
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: wife and I hate them.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I just hate like on our planet right now, just
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: people getting away with so much horseship, I know, being
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: like absolute bastards and demons on the planet, and it's
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like unchecked, there's no accountability, and I'm like, this is
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: just metastasized in the form of Cody Brown just getting
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: away with it and prospering, even though he's a wicked
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: person and he's treated people deplorably. It's like David crying
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: out to God, Why Father, Why do the wicked prosper?
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And then here I am struggling in the wilderness. That's
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: how I feel.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Why does coldy Why do they.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Get to prosper? I don't understand. But God is in
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: charge of all that. Vengeance is mine saith, the lore.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: And they don't deserve it, so it will come.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's universal checks and balances in play at all times,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: so I'm just not going to be upset about it anymore.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take this summer off yep with the
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: rest of you raccoons, enjoy myself. I'm not gonna worry
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: about these people. You know, it's been ten months that
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: we've been doing.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: This ten ten months, and this season ten months.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Oh did you start in September? I think we did September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June. Bitch, bitch, June, bitch.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. Ten months with a month long hiatus
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: in the middle of this season was absolutely way too long.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: If season twenty is another thirty episodes. I'm going to scream.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I will be very upset. I'm going to scream,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and it's not because we know it's going to be bad,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and it is because they're going to give us nothing
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and we already know about Coyote passic. There's nothing new
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: under the sun that you could give us. But it's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: because they will be enriched yep by thirty episodes worth
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: of content.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I wish we knew how much
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: they got paid per episode because I'm just like really
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: waiting for their inevitable foreclosure and they're inevitable bankruptcy because
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: these two jobless losers are just using sister wives yep
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to pay for their mortgage.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, after they, in my opinion, stole all the money
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: out of the family LLC YEP and stole away with
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: it so they could have all their tacky assets.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I love the OG three, but like,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: these OG three are not suing him for every fucking
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: penny that he stole from them.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, it's not right. And then we
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: have Christine though ye who does currently have an active lawsuit,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and she will get access to those financial records. I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: would imagine her attorney's going to have to figure out
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: how much Cody's making every year, and then she's going
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to be able to figure out her child support from that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: But I don't think we're going to be privy to
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that information.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Wish we could be.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I wish.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is it, This is it. This is
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the end, my friend, we made. Wow, God put me
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: out of my misery. Dude, stick a fore me so
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: over it. But you know what, I've enjoyed recapping it
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed meeting with y'all every week and talking about
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the Sister Wives. And believe me when I say we're
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: going to continue our conversation on Sister Wives. We're going
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: to pick up in season six of Sister Wives to
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: do our rewinds. Not next week, but we'll start it
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the week after that, and we will continue to have
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: our conversation owns about what we're going to be watching
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: this summer because there are some options. People did write
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: in with their opinions with a lot of them, so
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of opinions, and so we're considering all of that.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But right now, like you, we just need a break
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: from this horseship. Take a nap, that's absolutely right in
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a coffin. Yeah, take a nap in a coffin. Well,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: is there anything else that we need to say to
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: these beautiful raccoons before we get up on ada here bhs?
• 45:56
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• 46:02
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• 46:04
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• 46:07
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• 46:10
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• 46:12
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• 46:15
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• 46:18
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• 46:21
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• 46:24
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• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you and pease, oh my mite it