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8/31/26 -- Dan Ball W/ Matt Coday, Breanna Morello, Jeff Dornik, Ethan Forhetz, Jeremy Portnoy. · Real America with Dan Ball

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Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America tonight, the debate over data
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Speaker 1: centers is reaching a boiling point, and new reports suggest
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Speaker 1: that the Chinese Communist Party is.
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Speaker 2: Fueling the opposition online.
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Speaker 1: This in a desperate attempt to kneecap AI innovation in
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Speaker 1: the U.S.
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Speaker 2: So China can control it all. Trump says he won't
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Speaker 2: let that happen.
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Speaker 1: Plus, the Department of Transportation shutting down hundreds of truck
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Speaker 1: driving schools for issuing commercial driver's licenses to people who
0:25
Speaker 1: are literally illiterate, like a bunch of criminal illegal aliens.
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Speaker 2: Gee. I wonder where that's happening.
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Speaker 1: And the defense team for Carmelo Anthony is appealing his
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Speaker 1: recent conviction for the murder of Austin Metcalf, arguing that
0:39
Speaker 1: he didn't get a fair trial?
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Speaker 2: Really?
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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Ball, and Real America starts right now.
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Speaker 2: Good Monday evening. Take it easy, folks. That was AI.
1:17
Speaker 2: I'll explain in a minute.
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Speaker 1: We begin the program tonight with an update on the
1:20
Speaker 1: ongoing conflict between the U.S. and Iran, starting with that
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Speaker 1: video you saw that President Trump posted. Now, again, the
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Speaker 1: clip generated by artificial intelligence posted over the weekend is
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Speaker 1: a stark warning from 47 about what the U.S.
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Speaker 2: Military could do to Karg.
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Speaker 1: Island, also known as Iran's oil exporting hub, if the
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Speaker 1: terrorist regime doesn't negotiate. This warning also comes amid the
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Speaker 1: first wave of military exchanges between the U.S. and Iran
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Speaker 1: in about a month. Got to remember, the last few
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Speaker 1: weeks have actually been kind of calm. While nothing was
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Speaker 1: being negotiated, no one was firing at each other. To
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Speaker 1: that point, here's the situation.
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Speaker 3: U.S.
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Speaker 1: Forces struck Iranian rocket launchers, I'm told, on Laraq Island,
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Speaker 1: which is in the Strait of Hormuz, on Sunday. stopping
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Speaker 1: the IRGC from using them to place more mines into
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Speaker 1: that waterway. The Pentagon says their goal was to protect
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Speaker 1: civilian shipping, and several Iranian fighters were also killed. Unsurprisingly,
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Speaker 1: Iran swiftly retaliated by firing missiles at two U.S. bases
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Speaker 1: in Jordan. President Trump now vowing to hit back harder
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Speaker 1: than the last strike.
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Speaker 2: He made the remark earlier today.
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Speaker 1: Without sharing any details, his statement comes as a pivotal
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Speaker 1: moment marked by rising gas prices here at home and
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Speaker 1: new extremes. economic sanctions against Iran. So, why we will
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Speaker 1: have to, I guess, wait and see if the regime
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Speaker 1: will crack, have some other major news from the world stage,
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Speaker 1: and it could bolster, let's hope, our economic growth here
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Speaker 1: at home.
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Speaker 2: On Friday, the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Entering into a new oil deal with Venezuela that could
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Speaker 1: give us control of 65 billion barrels of oil, effectively
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Speaker 1: creating the world's second largest private oil company, and the U.S.
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Speaker 1: would have a 100-year lease on the oil fields down there,
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Speaker 1: leading to new projections of, guess what, much lower gas
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Speaker 1: prices across the board. Let's get it done before midterms,
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Speaker 1: President Trump. You know what happens if gas is high.
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Speaker 1: People always vote with that pocketbook. In fact, we're already
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Speaker 1: adding the new oil supply, I'm told, to our national
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Speaker 1: strategic oil reserves, and that's just the beginning. Now, there
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Speaker 1: are other benefits to come.
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Speaker 2: Vice President J.D.
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Speaker 1: Vance says we're already seeing them take hold right here
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Speaker 1: at home.
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Speaker 4: We're actually already seeing significant increase in oil production out
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Speaker 4: of Venezuela, which is one of the reasons why, despite
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Speaker 4: a lot of people predicting that oil prices would go
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Speaker 4: to $ 200 a barrel, they're obviously higher than they were
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Speaker 4: a few months ago. But they're sort of much more
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Speaker 4: stable in part because what we see coming out of Venezuela.
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Speaker 1: So with all this oil from Venezuela, things have been
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Speaker 1: calm in Iran. Shouldn't we soon see gas prices plummet?
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Speaker 2: I hope so. I know you do.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about in California where I live because
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Speaker 1: we already pay $ 1, $ 1. 20 more than everybody in the
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Speaker 1: entire country. So hopefully it'll start coming down. But let's
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Speaker 1: ask the expert. Our first guest tonight is President, Oil
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Speaker 1: and Gas Workers Association, Matt Cody on Real America for
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Speaker 1: the first time. Matt, thanks for coming on. You got
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Speaker 1: the inside track a lot better than some guy sitting
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Speaker 1: out here on a news set in California. So I
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Speaker 1: would imagine when I hear millions of barrels of oil
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Speaker 1: that should be coming into our pipeline, well, I'm not stupid.
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Speaker 1: I know supply and demand. If the supply goes up,
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Speaker 1: prices are supposed to come down. So should we see
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Speaker 1: the pain at the pump coming down hopefully in the
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Speaker 1: next few weeks maybe?
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Speaker 5: You know, we'll see the pump prices coming down over
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Speaker 5: the next few weeks just because of clearing the Strait
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Speaker 5: of Hormuz. And that's what's so important over there is
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Speaker 5: that 20 percent of the world's oil supply goes through
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Speaker 5: that strait. Now, President Trump from day one delivered on
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Speaker 5: his promise to lower gas prices for all Americans. This
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Speaker 5: conflict in Iran, of course, has dragged out longer than
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Speaker 5: any one of us would like to.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 5: But yes, whenever we look at energy prices, the main
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Speaker 5: driver of inflation, as those come down, so will everything else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what people forget. It's like, you know, I
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Speaker 1: get people are upset how much beef's costing. President Trump
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Speaker 1: tried to tackle that, upset some ranchers. Now he's trying
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Speaker 1: to help the ranchers out. It's like you do one thing,
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Speaker 1: you're going to upset somebody over here. So he's trying
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Speaker 1: to not upset the apple cart and keep it all together.
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Speaker 2: And I get that. What a hell of a tough job, right,
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Speaker 2: to do.
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Speaker 1: But with the conflict in Iran and the straight being
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Speaker 1: blocked for months on off, on off, and people, let's
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Speaker 1: be real, the speculators on Wall Street saying, well... You know,
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Speaker 1: we think there's going to be less supply, so we'll
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Speaker 1: gouge everybody. That can't keep lasting if, again, the supply
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Speaker 1: goes up.
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Speaker 2: And I thought I saw, and.
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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, Matt, before the markets closed
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Speaker 1: on Friday, I think a barrel of oil was around $ 86, $ 85.
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Speaker 1: At the peak of the war, when we were paying
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Speaker 1: almost $ 6 out here in California, we reached almost $ 120
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Speaker 1: a barrel, right?
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Speaker 5: No, you're absolutely right. And of course, in California, you
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Speaker 5: can thank your incredible governor, Gavin Newsom, and anti-oil and
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Speaker 5: gas policies that the state of California has enacted for years.
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Speaker 5: You know, I talked with my friend David Tongapah, a
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Speaker 5: state assemblyman in California. He says that California conservatives are
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Speaker 5: on the front lines against crazy. And he's absolutely right,
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Speaker 5: because it is flat out insane for states like California
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Speaker 5: and countries like Germany and others to get rid of
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Speaker 5: oil and gas and to make themselves dependent and the
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Speaker 5: non-foreign nations.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And try to listen.
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Speaker 1: I understand saving the environment and everybody wants us to
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Speaker 1: use wind, solar, electric batteries, all that crap.
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Speaker 2: Fine. But the infrastructure is not there.
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Speaker 1: So you just can't convert to all that and get
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Speaker 1: rid of all your coal, your natural gas and your oil.
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Speaker 1: To me, that is asinine to even think you could
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Speaker 1: do that. We know the last administration here was trying
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Speaker 1: to push that down our throats.
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Speaker 2: It didn't work out too well, right?
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Speaker 5: And I'm glad that you mentioned the last administration because
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Speaker 5: in November 2022, whenever Joe Biden issued a license to Chevron,
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Speaker 5: to resume oil production in Venezuela. Democrats cheered Joe Biden's
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Speaker 5: policy back then. They should jump on board with all
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Speaker 5: Americans and cheer President Trump's policy to import Venezuelan crude,
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Speaker 5: because that's the way our Gulf Coast refineries are set up,
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Speaker 5: is to process a heavier crude. And so when President
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Speaker 5: Trump says it will lower gas prices for all Americans
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Speaker 5: for years to come, he's absolutely right.
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Speaker 2: Well, you just answered my next question.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, once this conflict with Iran
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Speaker 1: is over and that oil is flowing from Venezuela, something
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Speaker 1: we have never had to benefit our nation, you're going
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Speaker 1: to have millions of extra barrels a day, which again, supply, demand.
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Speaker 1: With that much supply, I got to imagine they'll plummet.
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Speaker 1: I remember his first term, he got it down to
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Speaker 1: like what was it, 41 or $ 42 a barrel? And
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Speaker 1: gas in some of the Midwest and Southern states was
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Speaker 1: down to like a buck 30 or something.
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Speaker 2: It was really cheap.
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Speaker 5: President Trump has always delivered for Americans on gas prices.
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Speaker 5: You know, Ryan Zinke, the current Congressman who was at
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Speaker 5: the Department of Interior under President Trump's first term. And
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Speaker 5: then of course, Rick Perry at Department of Energy in
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Speaker 5: the first term. President Trump had some heavy hitters who
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Speaker 5: knew what they were doing.
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Speaker 2: In those agencies.
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Speaker 5: And I spoke with DOE today. Of course, President Trump
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Speaker 5: has two big heavy hitters again and Secretary Chris Wright
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Speaker 5: and Secretary Doug Burgum.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I'll end on this. I see a headline here.
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Speaker 1: You can throw it up that says later this week,
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Speaker 1: the president's going to meet with all of the big U.S.
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Speaker 1: refinery heads and chat with them. What do you think
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Speaker 1: that conversation is going to be about, Matt?
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Speaker 5: Number one, can we continue this output, this throughput? Can
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Speaker 5: we continue at the rate that we're doing right now? Also,
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Speaker 5: what can we as a country do to make the
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Speaker 5: refinery margins better for those old companies, ultimately being able
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Speaker 5: to pass on the savings to American workers and families?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Amen. Let's see it.
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Speaker 1: We want you guys to make a good living in
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Speaker 1: the business and we'd like to keep our living the
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Speaker 1: way it is. So we don't want to be paying five, six, seven,
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Speaker 1: eight bucks a gallon. We want to see that $ 2
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Speaker 1: or less gas again. And I know we can get
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Speaker 1: it there. Matt Cody, president of the Oil and Gas
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Speaker 1: Workers Association. Thank you, brother, for coming on.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Thanks, Dan.
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Speaker 2: Yep. Take care. All righty, coming up after the break, the.
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Speaker 1: Controversy over data centers being built all around the U.S.
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Speaker 2: Continues. Look, I'm skeptical. I don't want to see it.
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Speaker 1: But President Trump is pushing for America to build their
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Speaker 1: own centers and control them. That way our data doesn't
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Speaker 1: end up in the hands of China. And trust me,
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Speaker 1: they're trying, folks. Plus, cracking down on immigrants who have
9:52
Speaker 1: no business being behind the wheel of an 18-wheeler. We're
9:55
Speaker 1: going to fill you in on what the Trump administration
9:57
Speaker 1: is doing to try and make our highways safer out
9:59
Speaker 1: there for you. and me. And then a bit later,
10:01
Speaker 1: the search continues for Americans still missing in Nepal after
10:05
Speaker 1: that massive, deadly flood wiped out entire.
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Speaker 1: So there's only 64 days left till the midterms. We
10:53
Speaker 1: know there is no room for error. If Republicans don't win,
10:57
Speaker 1: let's be real. Democrats are going to wreak havoc for
11:00
Speaker 1: the next, well, at least two years. So if we
11:03
Speaker 1: want to win, we better settle a bunch of the
11:07
Speaker 1: major issues. Obviously, we talked earlier about getting gas prices
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Speaker 1: down with the conflict in Iran and with now getting
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Speaker 1: barrels of oil from Venezuela.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully that will take care of itself, I'm praying. Another
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Speaker 2: big one, though.
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Speaker 1: A lot of folks, especially in mid and small towns
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Speaker 1: and rural areas, are very concerned about those data centers
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Speaker 1: popping up next door to their ranch, their farm, their community.
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal.
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Speaker 1: We have to compete against China, our biggest adversaries, when
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Speaker 1: it comes to these data centers, okay? And they're right
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Speaker 1: now trying to build the world's most advanced AI systems.
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Speaker 1: They're putting up centers everywhere. And so obviously if we
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Speaker 1: don't do it and they create them, and they do
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Speaker 1: it under different shell companies in this country, they're going
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Speaker 1: to rule AI. They're going to be able to have
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Speaker 1: access to our data. And President Trump doesn't want that
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Speaker 1: to happen. Earlier today, he threw his full support behind
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Speaker 1: data centers. On Truth Social, he said communities that want
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Speaker 1: to be successful and rich should support them. Now, historically,
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Speaker 1: he's been in favor of their construction, viewing them as
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Speaker 1: essential to our country's advancement and security.
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Speaker 2: But of course not all Americans are on board. And
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Speaker 2: I got to say, I'm one of them, right?
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Speaker 1: I want details, details, details before I go, yeah, it's okay,
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Speaker 1: build one of those in my neighborhood. People are concerned
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Speaker 1: about the impact it's going to have on their community,
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Speaker 1: like their utility bills. These places, these data centers, they
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Speaker 1: use so much water, so much electricity. It's a big deal. Now,
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Speaker 1: Vice President J.D. Vance offered a unique solution to the
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Speaker 1: issue earlier today ahead of his trip to Michigan.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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Speaker 4: They're an important part of the AI economy. When people
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Speaker 4: build them, they have to build the power plants along
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Speaker 4: with the data centers. I think probably 99% of the
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Speaker 4: backlash to data centers has come in areas where building
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Speaker 4: a data center means higher utility and higher electricity for
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Speaker 4: the people on the ground. So I think what these
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Speaker 4: companies have to do is take advantage of some of
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Speaker 4: the federal deregulatory efforts that we've undertaken. If you build
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Speaker 4: a data center, you should be putting power back into
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Speaker 4: the grid, not taking it out. And if that is happening,
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Speaker 4: I don't think the data centers are that controversial. It's
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Speaker 4: when the utility bills get so much higher, that's when.
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Speaker 6: It's a real problem.
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Speaker 2: Totally agree. That's what I hear from viewers all the time.
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Speaker 1: I don't want one of those built over here and
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Speaker 1: my electric bill going way up or my water bill
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Speaker 1: going way up. Totally agree with you all. Now, I
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Speaker 1: think that's... an idea to consider, right? Because we know
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Speaker 1: who will benefit if we don't build them here. China
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Speaker 1: will benefit. Chinese bots are already being deployed. Opposition to
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Speaker 1: data centers on social media, including on X. The site's
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Speaker 1: safety team has flagged hundreds of thousands of accounts on
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Speaker 1: X and other social media.
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Speaker 2: And guess what? They're bots. It's fake.
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Speaker 1: But what they're doing is they're convincing Americans that data
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Speaker 1: centers are horrible, that they're a security concern, a threat,
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Speaker 1: that your bills will go up, that you don't want
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Speaker 1: them in your neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: Think about that.
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Speaker 1: China literally is having social media bots tell you on
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Speaker 1: social media, don't allow data centers because they want to
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Speaker 1: control them all. Trump economist and frequent guest on the
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Speaker 1: show here, Steve Moore, walks through all this in a
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Speaker 1: brand new op-ed he dropped, per his words in this article.
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Speaker 1: Data centers aren't just buildings, they're economic engines. and they
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Speaker 1: play an integral role in helping America's economy grow into
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Speaker 1: the next century. So, if again, they don't make utilities
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Speaker 1: go up, they're gonna build their own infrastructure, they can
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Speaker 1: create jobs, but bigger picture, we don't let China control it,
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Speaker 1: then I think I maybe would be okay with some
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Speaker 1: data centers.
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Speaker 2: But let's ask our next guest to weigh in.
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Speaker 1: Joining us now to discuss this very heated debate about
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Speaker 1: AI and data centers, is Jeff Dornick, tech entrepreneur and
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Speaker 1: CEO of the social media platform Pickaxe.
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Speaker 2: Jeff, nice to see you again. Weigh in, my friend.
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Speaker 1: What do you think about data centers and what do
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Speaker 1: you think about what the vice president said? Hey, don't
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Speaker 1: think they're that bad as long as they build their
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Speaker 1: own infrastructure so it doesn't jack up our rates.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what J.D. Vance said is a very
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Speaker 6: good point. And I think that this is where the tension,
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Speaker 6: especially heading into these midterms, I think really lies. It
15:26
Speaker 6: seems like what President Trump is focusing on is what
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Speaker 6: is good for America as a whole, as an entity.
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Speaker 6: How do we beat China? And he's looking at everything geopolitically,
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Speaker 6: foreign policy. He's looking at who's going to win national
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Speaker 6: security-wise and all that. And I get where he's coming from.
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Speaker 6: But then the tension comes back to really what makes
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Speaker 6: America America, which is what the founding fathers originally intended
15:46
Speaker 6: based on the individual. And so then that you're dealing with, okay,
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Speaker 6: the individuals oftentimes, at least as it's been enforced up
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Speaker 6: to date, it's the individual people that are dealing with
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Speaker 6: the higher cost of electricity and dealing with water running out.
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Speaker 6: And there was locations up in Nevada where they were
16:03
Speaker 6: have rolling blackouts because the AI data centers were sucking
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Speaker 6: all the power out of the power grid. And so
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Speaker 6: there's definitely real world concerns there. And I think that
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Speaker 6: that's where the tension is. I think the concern that
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Speaker 6: I have from a messaging standpoint with President Trump, is
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Speaker 6: he's not addressing those individualized concerns. He's looking at it
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Speaker 6: from the big picture.
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Speaker 2: At least J.D.
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Speaker 6: Vance was at least acknowledging that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And then bigger picture, over the consumers' concerns about our
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Speaker 1: utility bills going up, over to what President Trump's saying,
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Speaker 1: the national security issue. If we don't build it, China's
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Speaker 1: going to. And then they're going to control all of
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Speaker 1: our data. That's no good, correct?
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: That is very true.
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Speaker 6: Now, I think that this is where, again, the conversation
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Speaker 6: gets a lot more nuanced, is that, yes, especially when
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Speaker 6: you're looking at national security, you're looking at, you know,
16:49
Speaker 6: like cybersecurity, like all that kind of stuff. It is
16:52
Speaker 6: vital that we win not only the AI race, but
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Speaker 6: the quantum computing race. I think those two things, I
16:57
Speaker 6: think quantum computing is actually even more critical than the
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Speaker 6: AI race because of the computation power that's going to
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Speaker 6: be coming along with quantum computing. To me, it's vital
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Speaker 6: that America wins that. At the same time, we shouldn't
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Speaker 6: treat that as blanket cover for all AI development that
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Speaker 6: is like literally going to be replacing people's jobs.
17:15
Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 1: Getting people out of business. Agreed.
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Speaker 6: Plagiarizing their content, you know, cutting them out of the
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Speaker 6: royalty structure. Like there's definitely a lot of problems that
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Speaker 6: are going and we can't treat it as if this,
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Speaker 6: you know, AI development is a blanket cover.
17:27
Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 6: For all AI development.
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Speaker 2: I don't like the dirty artwork, Jeff. Regulation, but we
17:31
Speaker 2: need some regulation when it comes to AI. Yep. We do. Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead. Yep. Final one to you since you're a
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Speaker 2: social media guy.
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Speaker 1: Those bots that China have put up to convince Americans
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Speaker 1: that everything data center is horrible and bad.
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Speaker 2: How do we determine?
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Speaker 1: I know on X you can go in and look
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Speaker 1: where the person's from and it'll say Australia or Egypt
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Speaker 1: or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Is that the best way to tell something's a bot?
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Speaker 2: How do you know it's a bot?
17:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, oftentimes you can tell there's oftentimes a bunch of
17:58
Speaker 6: numbers at the tail end of the username. It was
18:01
Speaker 6: really interesting, specifically with those bots that X uncovered. They
18:04
Speaker 6: talk about the number 200,000. Well, they uncovered a bot
18:07
Speaker 6: farm of 200,000 bot accounts, but only 200 of them
18:11
Speaker 6: were actually pushing AI data center propaganda. So more than
18:15
Speaker 6: 99% of them were not. But everybody acts as if
18:18
Speaker 6: that was actually the entirety of the bot farm. And
18:22
Speaker 6: so and then there was an analysis of those accounts specifically,
18:27
Speaker 6: and they had almost no impressions, no views. So I
18:29
Speaker 6: think we also have to be careful on the propaganda
18:31
Speaker 6: on the flip side that we that we claim that
18:33
Speaker 6: all the critiques of AI data centers is coming from
18:35
Speaker 6: China when a reality is very limited impact.
18:38
Speaker 2: Sure.
18:38
Speaker 1: I mean, my hometown in northwest Ohio with about 4000 people,
18:42
Speaker 1: they had a massive city hall meeting a few weeks back.
18:44
Speaker 1: They had to move out of city hall and go
18:45
Speaker 1: over to a park pavilion there. because so many people
18:48
Speaker 1: were PO'd thinking a data center might be coming to
18:50
Speaker 1: my hometown. They put it on pause now while they
18:53
Speaker 1: review everything, and I feel like that's small communities across
18:55
Speaker 1: this country, and they should. They should be leery, they
18:57
Speaker 1: should ask questions, and they should want to make sure
18:59
Speaker 1: their utilities never go up. Jeff, appreciate you as always.
19:03
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming back on the program.
19:04
Speaker 6: Thank you, appreciate it.
19:05
Speaker 2: Yep.
19:06
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19:13
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Speaker 7: Today, what we are announcing is an emergency executive shutdown
21:02
Speaker 7: of 110 driving schools.
21:07
Speaker 2: Thank you. Appreciate that, Mr. Duffy.
21:09
Speaker 1: I've got a teenager driving on our roadways here in California,
21:12
Speaker 1: and I'm positive illegals are driving 18-wheelers, and I'm worried
21:15
Speaker 1: to death as a parent.
21:16
Speaker 2: So thank you again. Mr.
21:18
Speaker 1: Duffy, our transportation secretary, making that huge announcement right here
21:21
Speaker 1: on OAN earlier today.
21:23
Speaker 2: And I say, close more of them.
21:25
Speaker 1: If they're giving drivers licenses to people who can't even
21:28
Speaker 1: read our freaking street signs and understand English or shouldn't
21:31
Speaker 1: even be in our country, why are they getting licenses?
21:36
Speaker 2: Sorry. Learn the language.
21:38
Speaker 1: Come here illegally, not illegally. Then go to the driving school.
21:42
Speaker 1: Then you can go drive. But if the schools are
21:44
Speaker 1: going to allow it, then you've got to hold them accountable.
21:48
Speaker 1: On that note, a couple hundred driving schools around the
21:50
Speaker 1: country are gonna be closed or already closed because they
21:54
Speaker 1: literally passed people who effectively are illiterate and yes, have
21:59
Speaker 1: approved and given licenses to a bunch of illegal aliens.
22:04
Speaker 1: According to Secretary Duffy, 110 CDL schools accounted for more
22:07
Speaker 1: than 5,000 violations of English proficiency requirements, and he says
22:12
Speaker 1: that's the tip of the iceberg. Worse yet, these schools
22:15
Speaker 1: and their instructors lied to the federal government about their
22:18
Speaker 1: abilities to actually train these prospective drivers, which means what?
22:23
Speaker 1: You're endangering American taxpayers out on the roads we pay for.
22:30
Speaker 7: You have instructors who aren't certified who are allegedly training
22:33
Speaker 7: the new truck drivers to operate on American roadways. And
22:38
Speaker 7: they oftentimes didn't have classrooms. One school that were shutting
22:43
Speaker 7: down was so flippant, as they told us, their classroom
22:45
Speaker 7: was the school bus that was in the backyard. That
22:48
Speaker 7: was the classroom for which they were training new truck drivers.
22:53
Speaker 7: So you have fraud throughout the school system.
22:57
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. But I mean, come on.
22:59
Speaker 1: Look at all the fraud they've been uncovering with learning centers,
23:03
Speaker 1: with hospice centers, with Medicaid and Medicare fraud, I mean,
23:07
Speaker 1: with food stamps, and.
23:09
Speaker 2: Now with truck driving schools.
23:11
Speaker 1: It is, all the nonprofits were surrounded by nothing but fraud.
23:16
Speaker 1: That's why I'm so glad the Trump administration actually created
23:19
Speaker 1: an anti-fraud task force and is going after this. Speaking
23:24
Speaker 1: of combating fraud, Let's talk about nonprofits, the good old NGOs.
23:28
Speaker 1: Team Trump also investigating whether some of the tax-exempt nonprofits
23:32
Speaker 1: out there in our country are abusing their charitable status.
23:35
Speaker 2: Of course they are. Couple of them they're looking at? Oh,
23:39
Speaker 2: two real gems. CARE. You know CARE, right? Center for
23:44
Speaker 2: American Islamic Relations?
23:46
Speaker 1: Uh-huh. It's a front for the Muslim Brotherhood. They should
23:48
Speaker 1: disband them and throw them out of the country. Anyway,
23:50
Speaker 1: CARE and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Also, the Open
23:54
Speaker 1: Society Foundations.
23:55
Speaker 2: You know that one. That's the George Soros one.
23:58
Speaker 1: Well, they're evaluating all of them, looking to see if
24:01
Speaker 1: maybe we need a full-scale audit, maybe some penalties, maybe
24:04
Speaker 1: take away their nonprofit status for lying.
24:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:08
Speaker 1: Were these groups to lose their tax-exempt privileges... we'd likely
24:11
Speaker 1: be talking about well over $ 100 million in annual tax revenue.
24:18
Speaker 1: Please go after him. There's a whole lot more as well.
24:21
Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Scott Besant laying it all out.
24:24
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
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Speaker 8: We are examining where tax-exempt status has been exploited, where
24:30
Speaker 8: charitable entities have become financial conduits for foreign influence activity,
24:36
Speaker 8: and how those entrusted with stewardship of these organizations have
24:40
Speaker 8: instead enabled violence. Where the evidence leads, we will not
24:46
Speaker 8: hesitate to follow.
24:48
Speaker 2: Go get them.
24:49
Speaker 1: Joining us now to weigh in on all these investigations
24:51
Speaker 1: and all the crazy fraud that they're uncovering. I mean,
24:54
Speaker 1: I knew stuff was bad, but did you know it
24:56
Speaker 1: was this bad? He's the investigative journalist over at OpenTheBooks.com,
25:01
Speaker 1: Jeremy Portnoy, back on Real America. Jeremy, where shall we begin?
25:06
Speaker 1: Let's talk truckers just for a quick second, because that
25:08
Speaker 1: one blew me away. I knew that there were a
25:11
Speaker 1: bunch of Blue and a couple red states who had
25:15
Speaker 1: issued the CDLs to people that should not be on
25:17
Speaker 1: our roadways. But I didn't realize the schools themselves that
25:21
Speaker 1: give you the certificate to then take to the state
25:23
Speaker 1: and get the license were corrupt as hell and fraudulent.
25:26
Speaker 2: That one blew me away. Right.
25:29
Speaker 9: And that's flat out illegal. You're not allowed to be
25:30
Speaker 9: a licensed truck driver. If you can't read English, you
25:33
Speaker 9: have to be able to read the street signs. This
25:35
Speaker 9: is an example where we've actually seen the Department of
25:38
Speaker 9: Transportation expand a bit under President Trump. which was surprising
25:42
Speaker 9: because we talked so much about Doge and those efforts
25:44
Speaker 9: to downsize the federal government. But once we got the
25:46
Speaker 9: federal payroll, we found their hiring has actually gone up.
25:50
Speaker 9: But if those new federal employees are being used to
25:52
Speaker 9: conduct meaningful oversight like this and close down these fraudulent
25:56
Speaker 9: trucking agencies, then I'd say that's an example of tax
25:59
Speaker 9: dollars well spent if we can go after this fraud.
26:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:02
Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of how much money is not coming
26:05
Speaker 1: into the coffers, let me move from the trucks to
26:07
Speaker 1: the other thing I brought up there with Scott Besant
26:08
Speaker 1: is the charities, right? We already knew Southern Poverty Law
26:13
Speaker 1: Center was corrupt. Now we know that they were manufacturing
26:16
Speaker 1: the hate. CARE, don't get me started on CARE, despise
26:20
Speaker 1: the hell out of them. But so many other NGOs,
26:23
Speaker 1: and we saw how corrupt they were during the four
26:25
Speaker 1: years of Biden-Harris with the invasion at our southern border, right?
26:28
Speaker 1: They were set up in countries... down by the Darien
26:31
Speaker 1: Gap and stuff in South America, helping to facilitate bringing
26:35
Speaker 1: all these illegals up.
26:36
Speaker 2: So I'm so glad.
26:37
Speaker 1: They're going after this, but you're talking about hundreds of
26:40
Speaker 1: millions of dollars in taxes if the Trump administration can
26:44
Speaker 1: prove they defrauded their donors and take away that, what
26:47
Speaker 1: is it, a 501c, right? Get rid of that tax exemption.
26:51
Speaker 9: Right, and we actually found earlier this year federal funds
26:53
Speaker 9: flowing directly to CARE, grants that were, sorry, funds that
26:57
Speaker 9: were granted to the state of California and to New
26:59
Speaker 9: York City that they then disperse to CARE. And once
27:03
Speaker 9: that happens, it's very hard to conduct meaningful oversight of
27:06
Speaker 9: that money, right? Because CARE can then subgrant it to
27:09
Speaker 9: another organization, which can sub-subgrant it to another group. And
27:14
Speaker 9: that money then doesn't really appear in any public spending
27:16
Speaker 9: documents that we at Open the Books or another nonprofit
27:19
Speaker 9: group can analyze. And so that's why we've always been
27:22
Speaker 9: calling for a lot more oversight of these tax-exempt groups,
27:25
Speaker 9: because it's very, very hard to track what they do
27:28
Speaker 9: with their money, even though a lot of it originates
27:30
Speaker 9: from your federal income taxes.
27:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they've got channels to stick it through, so
27:34
Speaker 1: by the time you start looking over here, it's already
27:36
Speaker 1: moved three different ways, and you don't know where the
27:38
Speaker 1: hell the money went.
27:39
Speaker 2: Our money went.
27:40
Speaker 1: Well, I'll commend the Trump administration, because I'll tell you what,
27:42
Speaker 1: throw these headlines up. $ 13 billion they've already uncovered in
27:47
Speaker 1: federal contractor fraud. So, you know, these non-bid contracts that
27:52
Speaker 1: agencies have been signing up for decades with certain contractors,
27:55
Speaker 1: they just bill the hell out of the American taxpayer.
27:57
Speaker 1: Trump said, no, no, no, we're going to go look
27:59
Speaker 1: at the numbers, and they've uncovered 13 bill there. How
28:03
Speaker 1: about blocking more than $ 1. 6 billion in improper Medicare lab
28:08
Speaker 1: payments as well? That's just one huge number in this
28:12
Speaker 1: whole busting of fraud when it comes to Medicare, Medicaid.
28:16
Speaker 1: the learning centers, the hospice centers. There's so much fraud
28:20
Speaker 1: in almost every facet of government. And I can't believe, Jeremy,
28:24
Speaker 1: final word to you, why in the heck has no
28:26
Speaker 1: one ever, ever, ever gone after it like this before?
28:29
Speaker 2: Hmm, I wonder why. Democrat or Republican president? Nobody has.
28:34
Speaker 2: Not in my lifetime. I've never seen it.
28:37
Speaker 1: Right.
28:37
Speaker 9: It's been going on for so long. This money that
28:39
Speaker 9: you put up here is unfortunately just the tip of
28:41
Speaker 9: the iceberg. We already know federal government self-reports about $ 250
28:47
Speaker 9: billion of improper payments every year. About half of that
28:50
Speaker 9: comes from Medicare and Medicaid. We only get those reports
28:54
Speaker 9: once per year, but so far in 2025 under Trump,
28:58
Speaker 9: we didn't really see a meaningful decrease yet. So hopefully
29:01
Speaker 9: we keep getting these press releases throughout 2026 that they're
29:04
Speaker 9: going after this fraud. We'll get the next update on
29:07
Speaker 9: November on the cumulative total of how much has actually
29:10
Speaker 9: been stopped from going out the door. but we definitely
29:12
Speaker 9: want to see it decrease from $ 250 billion a year.
29:15
Speaker 9: That's just an absurd amount of money.
29:16
Speaker 2: You think?
29:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Jeremy, thanks for all the great work you
29:19
Speaker 1: guys do at Open the Books. You're uncovering it all
29:22
Speaker 1: the time. Appreciate you so much.
29:23
Speaker 2: Have a good day, brother. Thank you, Dan. Yep.
29:26
Speaker 1: All righty, coming up next, believe it or not, rescuers
29:30
Speaker 1: are still pulling people alive out of the mud and
29:34
Speaker 1: debris in Nepal.
29:35
Speaker 2: Look at that.
29:36
Speaker 1: After that massive, deadly avalanche turns into a cataclysm, flood
29:41
Speaker 1: that wiped out entire villages. And there are also folks
29:45
Speaker 1: searching for dozens of Americans who are on vacation.
29:48
Speaker 2: Or living there. We're going to tackle that when we
29:50
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30:36
Speaker 1: The image is still coming out of Nepal. What you
30:38
Speaker 1: just saw right there, police officers rescuing a little girl
30:41
Speaker 1: from the rubble over the weekend. By the way, that
30:44
Speaker 1: was nearly a week after that country got hit with
30:48
Speaker 1: that colossal flood. It all started with an avalanche and
30:51
Speaker 1: then a dam breaking with billions of gallons of water.
30:55
Speaker 2: On top of the mud, the debris.
30:56
Speaker 1: The ice, the rocks, the timber, just, I mean, entire
31:01
Speaker 1: villages were completely flattened, destroyed. More than 4,000 people still missing,
31:10
Speaker 1: and dozens of them are Americans. More than 9,000 people,
31:15
Speaker 1: we're told, have been.
31:16
Speaker 2: Rescued so far.
31:18
Speaker 1: But those rescue efforts, of course, are facing major hurdles.
31:21
Speaker 1: This isn't like a normal flood. Say after a hurricane
31:25
Speaker 1: in Florida where the water recedes back out to the ocean,
31:28
Speaker 1: it goes away and you can clean up. There is literally,
31:31
Speaker 1: I mean, look at it, probably millions of pounds of
31:35
Speaker 1: mud and debris that buried people. Additionally, the death toll
31:40
Speaker 1: has risen over the weekend. As of today, we can
31:43
Speaker 1: confirm at least 950 deaths. And they expect that number
31:50
Speaker 1: to rise quite a bit, folks. People are now using
31:53
Speaker 1: hydropower to try and blast the mud out of different
31:59
Speaker 1: places to try and find anyone that still might be alive.
32:02
Speaker 1: At least 900 workers are thought to be stuck in
32:05
Speaker 1: tunnels and underground. That's what's really scary, how they're going
32:10
Speaker 1: to get them out. While international rescue teams are aggressively
32:14
Speaker 1: using air pumps, controlled blasts, and big excavators to try
32:18
Speaker 1: and save people, now they're getting bad weather.
32:21
Speaker 2: On top of all that mud. and flooded water and debris.
32:25
Speaker 1: At least 40 bridges were destroyed. So moving around the
32:29
Speaker 1: landscape's complicated for the people and the equipment, obviously. Despite
32:33
Speaker 1: the circumstances, there's always a silver lining, some good news
32:36
Speaker 1: to look for, right? For instance, security personnel recently rescued
32:40
Speaker 1: a 97-year-old woman from the flood debris.
32:43
Speaker 2: Look at that.
32:44
Speaker 1: She's now recovering. Took them about four hours to get
32:48
Speaker 1: her out, they say. Her great-nephew said that she looked
32:51
Speaker 1: like a warrior. returning from battle when they first saw her.
32:55
Speaker 1: And a little more good news. The headmaster of a
32:57
Speaker 1: local school saved the lives of 900 students and 16
33:02
Speaker 1: faculty members due to an early warning about the flood
33:07
Speaker 1: from his accountant. His accountant rushed into the classroom last
33:13
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, sounded the alarm, told everyone get out of
33:16
Speaker 1: the school, and they did just in time. Unfortunately, thousands
33:21
Speaker 1: of others Never got the warning.
33:23
Speaker 2: We've seen the video.
33:25
Speaker 1: Literally, the people are running with the floodwaters directly behind
33:28
Speaker 1: them and just overtaking them.
33:31
Speaker 2: Officials say $ 4.
33:33
Speaker 1: To $ 5 billion to rebuild, but obviously nothing can replace
33:38
Speaker 1: all the lives lost.
33:40
Speaker 2: So how are things going? What do people need?
33:44
Speaker 1: What do the rescuers that are traveling from America need
33:47
Speaker 1: as they go over to help look for Americans and
33:50
Speaker 1: the people of Nepal? Ethan Forens is the national spokesman
33:53
Speaker 1: and VP of public engagement for Convoy of Hope. He
33:55
Speaker 1: joins us once again to discuss how this amazing charity
33:58
Speaker 1: is lending that helping hand.
33:59
Speaker 2: Ethan, nice to see you.
34:01
Speaker 1: And I swear, I just said this to you the
34:03
Speaker 1: other day, I'm tired of seeing you, my friend. This
34:07
Speaker 1: one was just, wow. I mean, how could anybody, predict
34:12
Speaker 1: and get a warning out about this one, right?
34:14
Speaker 2: Started as an avalanche.
34:16
Speaker 1: I watched this video of the snow, rock, debris, trees,
34:21
Speaker 1: then turning into water, then hitting one of their reservoirs,
34:25
Speaker 1: which I forget how many billions of gallons it had.
34:28
Speaker 2: It then broke free. There were workers. There's the video.
34:31
Speaker 1: It just decimated that little town and village. Pretty much,
34:35
Speaker 1: I would imagine, killing everyone in sight.
34:37
Speaker 2: Here's more. Those bridges knocked out entire towns.
34:41
Speaker 1: Again, the death toll at 950, Ethan, but with 4,000
34:44
Speaker 1: missing and we're told around 100 of them were Americans.
34:48
Speaker 2: I mean, we always hold out for hope, right? Absolutely.
34:52
Speaker 10: That's what we have to do. And thank you for
34:54
Speaker 10: telling a few of those stories of hope. There's still
34:56
Speaker 10: hope to be found in this story. As the days
35:00
Speaker 10: go on, though, the more difficult it will be. That
35:03
Speaker 10: video that you were showing is just unthinkable what happened there.
35:07
Speaker 10: I saw it for the first time and I thought
35:10
Speaker 10: it was I thought it was AI generated because I
35:13
Speaker 10: couldn't contemplate that something could.
35:15
Speaker 2: Be that bad.
35:16
Speaker 10: But that tidal wave of mud and debris and water
35:21
Speaker 10: and other buildings that had come down previously, all hitting
35:26
Speaker 10: that hotel area and literally you see the before and
35:29
Speaker 10: after and it's down to bedrock now. So Convoy of
35:32
Speaker 10: Hope is there. We had some great partners on the
35:35
Speaker 10: ground already because one of the things that puts Convoy
35:38
Speaker 10: in a great position whenever these sorts of horrible incidents
35:42
Speaker 10: happen is that because we feed so many kids around
35:45
Speaker 10: the world every school day, right now, 677,000 kids every
35:49
Speaker 10: school day around the world we feed, and we have
35:51
Speaker 10: our women's empowerment program in so many places, And our
35:54
Speaker 10: agriculture program in so many places, Nepal is no exception.
35:58
Speaker 10: So that whenever this happened and we first got word
36:01
Speaker 10: of it, we were able to get money to our
36:03
Speaker 10: teams there and they were immediately able to get the supplies.
36:07
Speaker 10: There's been difficulty in getting it where it's needed. Obviously,
36:10
Speaker 10: the bridges are out, roads are out, but they've been
36:13
Speaker 10: doing their best to get it to survivors of the storm,
36:16
Speaker 10: who many of them literally ran from their homes and
36:20
Speaker 10: turned around if they were fortunate enough to get away.
36:23
Speaker 10: turned around to see their entire community wiped away.
36:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
36:27
Speaker 1: I just noticed in that video, a lot of helicopter
36:30
Speaker 1: action over there, having to literally crane in the supplies,
36:33
Speaker 1: the front end loaders, the bulldozers, they're having to, they're
36:36
Speaker 1: having to chopper them in because they can't truck them
36:38
Speaker 1: in or drive them in.
36:40
Speaker 2: Um, just so devastating.
36:42
Speaker 1: Something else I noticed the folks that did have enough
36:46
Speaker 1: warning to realize it was coming right through that direct Valley.
36:50
Speaker 1: were smart, you'll see in a lot of the video,
36:51
Speaker 1: they're running for high ground. Instead of running away from
36:54
Speaker 1: the water down valley, there was a handful of construction workers,
36:57
Speaker 1: I noticed in one of those clips, where they just
36:59
Speaker 1: went up and getting up a few feet, they were
37:02
Speaker 1: able to get away from the rushing water.
37:03
Speaker 2: It just has to be so.
37:05
Speaker 1: Devastating when you think about 1,000 dead, 4,000 missing, 100
37:10
Speaker 1: or plus Americans were there vacationing, some living there. I
37:14
Speaker 1: don't know the numbers, Ethan, if you've been in touch
37:17
Speaker 1: with the State Department, do we know Have any of
37:19
Speaker 1: these 95-plus Americans been found yet?
37:23
Speaker 10: They're working on it, but so far, not that I'm
37:25
Speaker 10: aware of, sadly. You can imagine the situation that Americans
37:30
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37:32
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37:35
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37:39
Speaker 10: to this point, as we get closer to a week out,
37:43
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37:45
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37:47
Speaker 10: are always stories of hope. Long after you think that
37:51
Speaker 10: people could be pulled out, I saw that in Venezuela firsthand.
37:56
Speaker 10: People can be pulled out of the rubble alive and
37:59
Speaker 10: it really buoys the emotions of the searchers who were
38:04
Speaker 10: doing God's work out there, digging hands in Venezuela and
38:10
Speaker 10: here as well, but literally with their hands in buckets.
38:12
Speaker 10: There's heavy machinery there in Nepal that's able to help
38:15
Speaker 10: with it. But you're right, getting it to those locations
38:18
Speaker 10: is tough.
38:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, when you look at the mud right there
38:21
Speaker 1: and you see vehicles flipped upside down that were big, huge,
38:24
Speaker 1: earth-moving things at some of the construction sites, and they're
38:27
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38:31
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38:33
Speaker 1: searcher can dive through like flooded water and look for someone.
38:37
Speaker 1: This is heavy, thick mud debris. And chances are, but again...
38:43
Speaker 1: Still got to hold out hope. That young girl found
38:45
Speaker 1: over the weekend, that was probably what? A Saturday rescue
38:48
Speaker 1: from a Wednesday? You're talking almost five days. Most people
38:51
Speaker 1: are like, no, you don't make it two or three
38:52
Speaker 1: with no water. Yes, God works in mysterious ways and
38:55
Speaker 1: they still find people.
38:56
Speaker 2: So we got to hold out hope for that. Ethan,
38:59
Speaker 2: what do you need from us?
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Speaker 1: And I wanted to just commend the Trump administration that
39:43
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39:47
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39:50
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40:04
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40:09
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40:12
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40:12
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40:13
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40:15
Speaker 1: All righty, coming up next, our friend, independent journalist Brianna
40:17
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40:20
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40:24
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40:28
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40:31
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40:34
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40:36
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Speaker 2: They're stealing our children. They're lynching them. Look what they
42:23
Speaker 2: just did to that little boy. Carmelo. Yeah, Carmelo. Carmelo,
42:31
Speaker 2: look what they just did to that kid.
42:34
Speaker 1: Huh?
42:35
Speaker 2: Look what they just did to that kid. I'm sorry.
42:39
Speaker 1: This might piss some people off and I really don't care.
42:43
Speaker 1: Why is it that if a black man, and this
42:48
Speaker 1: is a man, He's almost 18 years old.
42:50
Speaker 2: He knew what the hell he was doing.
42:51
Speaker 1: Previous text messages now revealed, prove he knew what he
42:55
Speaker 1: was doing. I'll explain with our next guest. Why is
42:58
Speaker 1: it that certain people in the black community, if someone
43:01
Speaker 1: commits a crime, It's all of a sudden the white
43:04
Speaker 1: man's fault and the poor kid didn't do anything.
43:07
Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with color.
43:09
Speaker 1: You stab somebody in broad daylight with witnesses, you're supposed
43:12
Speaker 1: to pay for it. Nobody did anything to this poor
43:16
Speaker 1: little black kid. And that actress is sitting there acting
43:19
Speaker 1: like somebody did something to him because of the color
43:23
Speaker 1: of his skin.
43:24
Speaker 2: No, he stabbed another human being to death. The kid.
43:33
Speaker 1: Ma'am, you mean the murderer who stabbed another high school
43:37
Speaker 1: student right in the frigging heart in front of his
43:39
Speaker 1: fellow classmates. Nobody stole this little child away. Nobody drug
43:44
Speaker 1: him behind a car. Nobody strung him up in a tree.
43:47
Speaker 1: Like some people have said, oh, they lynched him in
43:49
Speaker 1: the courtroom.
43:51
Speaker 2: He committed a frigging crime.
43:54
Speaker 1: By the way, today now he's 19 years old and
43:57
Speaker 1: he killed a young man named Austin Metcalf. Let's remember
44:00
Speaker 1: what happened. on April 2025 in Frisco, Texas. Now, this
44:06
Speaker 1: young man, not a kid, just got 35 years in
44:10
Speaker 1: prison for that murder a few weeks ago when he
44:12
Speaker 1: was convicted back in June. Thank God the justice system
44:15
Speaker 1: in that case worked. Now his defense team's fighting the conviction. Oh,
44:21
Speaker 1: of course, they're gonna appeal. They think that poor Anthony,
44:24
Speaker 1: that kid, didn't get a fair trial. Sorry, evidence points
44:31
Speaker 1: to he did. The jury listened.
44:34
Speaker 2: He's guilty. End of story.
44:36
Speaker 1: Of course, they're saying it wasn't fair and they lost because, oh, what,
44:40
Speaker 1: the judge was corrupt or something? Earlier this month, they
44:43
Speaker 1: had a hearing to request that new trial, arguing that
44:46
Speaker 1: an informal agreement with prosecutors affected their trial strategy. Then
44:50
Speaker 1: why'd you take the deal? So, by the way, here
44:53
Speaker 1: was the gentleman's agreement behind closed doors between attorneys on
44:57
Speaker 1: the prosecution and the defense side. They agreed not to
45:01
Speaker 1: show certain information they thought could be inflammatory, okay, from
45:06
Speaker 1: both sides.
45:08
Speaker 2: So the jury never saw.
45:10
Speaker 1: Some text messages that the young kid Antony had sent
45:14
Speaker 1: talking about stabbing people. And of course, there was some
45:18
Speaker 1: social media posts from Metcalf's past that some people thought, well,
45:22
Speaker 1: maybe they'll think that's a little prejudice or racist or
45:25
Speaker 1: something like that. So they agreed, you know, we won't
45:28
Speaker 1: bring either in. Well, I'm sorry, just because the white
45:31
Speaker 1: kid might have posted something the black kid didn't like,
45:34
Speaker 1: you don't stab them. But if there's text messages from
45:37
Speaker 1: the young black man talking about his anger and wanting
45:41
Speaker 1: to stab, I think his girlfriend or somebody, our guest
45:43
Speaker 1: will fill me in, then yeah, that's information that the
45:45
Speaker 1: jury should hear.
45:46
Speaker 2: But even without that information, they still found him guilty.
45:50
Speaker 1: So, Now the appeals process expect to be happening over
45:53
Speaker 1: the next few months. And we've got some insight from
45:56
Speaker 1: the prosecutor who proposed this gentleman's agreement. His name, Greg Willis.
46:01
Speaker 1: He's the DA of Collin County, Texas. And he was
46:03
Speaker 1: just interviewed by our next guest. Here's a little sample
46:07
Speaker 1: of that.
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Speaker 12: Can you talk a little bit about the agreement and
46:09
Speaker 12: why you agreed to it?
46:11
Speaker 3: Well, we proposed it and they agreed to it. And
46:14
Speaker 3: it was very straightforward, is that the trial itself needed
46:17
Speaker 3: to be about what happened under the tent. in those
46:20
Speaker 3: very few seconds. That's what he was charged with. He
46:24
Speaker 3: was charged with conduct during those six seconds, if you will,
46:29
Speaker 3: and the time leading up to that where everybody's under
46:31
Speaker 3: the tent. And so a fair trial would be to
46:36
Speaker 3: limit what the jury heard to what happened instead of
46:41
Speaker 3: the jury possibly making a decision based upon either young
46:46
Speaker 3: man's reputation or alleged prior bad acts.
46:51
Speaker 1: And you know who she is, Brianna Morell, independent journalist.
46:54
Speaker 1: That was her getting that exclusive interview. She joins me
46:57
Speaker 1: now to talk.
46:57
Speaker 2: More about it.
46:58
Speaker 1: So Brianna, before I saw you post that interview with
47:01
Speaker 1: the DA last week, I remember hearing the defense say
47:03
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago that because the original judge had
47:07
Speaker 1: come out right before sentencing or something and said, A
47:11
Speaker 1: simple phrase, when a reporter asked him, did the jury
47:13
Speaker 1: get it right? Yeah, I think the jury got it right.
47:15
Speaker 1: They thought the judge was being biased before sentencing, so
47:18
Speaker 1: they wanted a whole new trial, mistrial because of this judge.
47:20
Speaker 1: Then another judge comes in, looks at it, and says, no,
47:24
Speaker 1: it's not a mistrial. You can appeal to the higher court,
47:27
Speaker 1: but we're not doing a mistrial and a whole retrial.
47:29
Speaker 1: Then we hear about this gentleman's agreement, and you correct
47:32
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. What were the things that both.
47:35
Speaker 2: The defense and the prosecution decided not to show? Did
47:38
Speaker 2: I get it kind of right?
47:40
Speaker 1: Some social media posts from Metcalf, who was killed, and
47:44
Speaker 1: some text messages talking about stabbing from the convicted murderer.
47:48
Speaker 12: Well, for Austin Metcalf, and he's the victim in all
47:50
Speaker 12: of this, there was apparently a juvie record regarding a
47:53
Speaker 12: graffiti incident, which included racial slurs that may have been
47:57
Speaker 12: used in that incident. Now, he wasn't alone there. He
47:59
Speaker 12: has a twin brother named Hunter. And just my speculation
48:02
Speaker 12: involved in all of this, since the prosecutor openly told
48:05
Speaker 12: me that we were the first ones to initiate this
48:06
Speaker 12: agreement and wanted to do this, for me, I think
48:10
Speaker 12: probably the family was trying to protect the twin brother
48:13
Speaker 12: who's still alive in this situation from that type of
48:15
Speaker 12: information from getting out there. So that's just probably the
48:17
Speaker 12: reason why they started in the first place. But everything
48:20
Speaker 12: regarding the murderer, Carmelo, you got spot on. And, you know,
48:25
Speaker 12: I asked the prosecutor flat out, I mean, do you
48:27
Speaker 12: think you would have gotten more than 35 years if
48:29
Speaker 12: the jury heard this? I mean, this is some pretty
48:32
Speaker 12: damning stuff. And the fact that the girlfriend said an
48:34
Speaker 12: hour before the killing... was trying to get school officials
48:37
Speaker 12: to know that Carmelo was stalking her and allegedly had
48:40
Speaker 12: sent her threatening text messages. The prosecutor said, you know,
48:43
Speaker 12: I just think the jury got it right and he's
48:44
Speaker 12: going to leave it at that. But again, I mean,
48:47
Speaker 12: this might have been something that was initiated because of
48:49
Speaker 12: the victim's family and all of this.
48:50
Speaker 2: So wait, let me back up.
48:52
Speaker 1: You just said those text messages that he sent to
48:55
Speaker 1: his girlfriend or ex-girlfriend at the time She was trying
48:58
Speaker 1: to contact school officials because she felt they were threatening.
49:01
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that said something about stabbing.
49:03
Speaker 1: And that was an hour or so before he actually
49:05
Speaker 1: stabbed Metcalfe.
49:07
Speaker 2: She was trying to get school officials. She was warning
49:09
Speaker 2: them about this kid.
49:11
Speaker 12: So we haven't seen the text messages directly that the
49:13
Speaker 12: prosecutor spoke about in the courtroom. But what they said
49:15
Speaker 12: in the courtroom is they said that there was a
49:17
Speaker 12: breakup that happened and that this girl felt like she
49:19
Speaker 12: was being stalked by Carmelo. And so she came forward
49:22
Speaker 12: to school officials. And then it was, this isn't the
49:25
Speaker 12: exact verbiage that was used, but it was something to,
49:27
Speaker 12: I'm going to do something crazy. And for those at
49:30
Speaker 12: home who were wondering this whole time, like myself, why
49:32
Speaker 12: would Carmelo show up to a track meet with a knife?
49:34
Speaker 12: It was always so strange to Now it makes sense.
49:36
Speaker 12: I don't think it, this is my opinion. I don't
49:38
Speaker 12: think that knife was meant for Austin Metcalf. The knife
49:41
Speaker 12: was meant for her. And I think that he was
49:43
Speaker 12: frustrated and upset and was just in his head. And
49:46
Speaker 12: the first person who came at him who challenged him
49:49
Speaker 12: is what he ended up plunging that knife into Austin's chest. And,
49:52
Speaker 12: you know, throughout the trial, and I want to keep
49:54
Speaker 12: highlighting this while they sit here and cry and say racism, racism,
49:57
Speaker 12: racism to them. It's important to note that the majority,
50:00
Speaker 12: and I asked the prosecutor this, he confirmed it for me,
50:02
Speaker 12: they're all minors who testified that I'm alluding to right now.
50:05
Speaker 12: But the ones who sat there and witnessed all of this,
50:07
Speaker 12: they were black and Hispanic, and they all testified against
50:10
Speaker 12: Carmelo Anthony. They called it murder. They said this was
50:13
Speaker 12: not self-defense. They said this was provoked by Carmelo. And
50:16
Speaker 12: so it's important to note, while those on Carmelo's side
50:18
Speaker 12: want to continue to raise spades, that the jury, first off,
50:21
Speaker 12: it wasn't an all-white jury. We also talked about this.
50:23
Speaker 12: It's almost 50% minority, but they all want to race-bait.
50:26
Speaker 12: So there's a lot of lies to all of this,
50:27
Speaker 12: and we sat down and we debunked those lies.
50:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing that the majority of the students
50:35
Speaker 1: that testified on the prosecution side were minority kids, and again,
50:40
Speaker 1: no one stuck up for Carmelo, the young kid. Look
50:44
Speaker 1: at what they're doing to that kid, that young little boy. Sorry,
50:46
Speaker 1: he was a grown-ass man. He showed up with an
50:50
Speaker 1: ax to grind against that girlfriend, ex-girlfriend. And like you said,
50:54
Speaker 1: poor Austin told him, get out of our tent. And
50:57
Speaker 1: so what'd he do? He got enraged and he stabbed
51:00
Speaker 1: the poor kid right in the heart. And now they
51:02
Speaker 1: want to make this a racial case and act like
51:04
Speaker 1: he only got found guilty and is only going to serve.
51:06
Speaker 1: And I say only because I think if you take
51:08
Speaker 1: another life, you get life in prison with a death penalty.
51:10
Speaker 1: So he's going to serve 35 years if he even
51:12
Speaker 1: serves 35, right? Because they'll let him off with good
51:14
Speaker 1: behavior in.
51:15
Speaker 2: 20, 25.
51:16
Speaker 1: So he'll be 39, 40 and get out.
51:20
Speaker 2: Guess what? Austin never gets out. He's dead.
51:24
Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's a heartbreaking part in all of this.
51:26
Speaker 12: And just to add more, just confirmation that the guilty
51:29
Speaker 12: verdict was the right verdict. When the defense put up
51:32
Speaker 12: a witness on the stand, and I talked to Greg
51:33
Speaker 12: Willis about this, there was a witness who was put
51:35
Speaker 12: up on the stand by the defense on Saturday. And
51:37
Speaker 12: that witness openly, when being cross-examined by the prosecution, admitted
51:41
Speaker 12: that Carmelo provoked the incident. So their own witness who
51:45
Speaker 12: witnessed it physically was there, physically saw it. They had
51:48
Speaker 12: some issues we disagreed with, but based on everything said, yeah,
51:53
Speaker 12: Carmelo provoked it. So everyone knew Carmelo was in the
51:56
Speaker 12: wrong that witnessed it. And not a single person stood
51:58
Speaker 12: up for his defense. And that's also another thing I
52:00
Speaker 12: asked Greg Willis about, you know, we all thought he
52:03
Speaker 12: was going to testify. We all thought he was, is
52:04
Speaker 12: this self-defense claim? If it's self-defense, then tell me why
52:06
Speaker 12: you had to defend yourself. But he did not defend himself.
52:09
Speaker 1: Where was Austin's weapon? Where's the self-defense? Did he punch him?
52:12
Speaker 1: Did he beat his butt?
52:13
Speaker 2: No.
52:14
Speaker 1: So what's the self-defense? His words enraged you, so you
52:16
Speaker 1: got a knife. Again, I don't care what this graffiti
52:19
Speaker 1: incident was months or years before with his brother. It
52:21
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Carmelo and that evening. And
52:24
Speaker 1: one more thing, I noticed this headline. Was this in
52:26
Speaker 1: those text messages? At one point, did Carmelo Anthony threaten
52:30
Speaker 1: to shoot up his school? Where'd that headline come from?
52:34
Speaker 12: The shooting itself, I believe that was from a previous message.
52:37
Speaker 12: I'm not sure the, I don't remember the exact relevance
52:40
Speaker 12: of this. Keep in mind, too, the prosecution outlined that
52:43
Speaker 12: Carmelo had a record going back to when he was
52:45
Speaker 12: six or seven years old.
52:46
Speaker 2: Oh, geez.
52:47
Speaker 12: He was also put into a behavioral program over at
52:49
Speaker 12: LSU as well. And then there was another incident involving
52:53
Speaker 12: a teacher that he assaulted, I believe was the allegation
52:56
Speaker 12: that was brought forward. There was another assault that was
52:58
Speaker 12: also brought forward.
52:59
Speaker 1: You're describing a pattern here, Brianna, to me. A kid
53:01
Speaker 1: who's been troubled since he was a little kid. Now
53:04
Speaker 1: he's a man and he killed somebody.
53:06
Speaker 12: Well, Dan, his own family won't sit there and admit
53:07
Speaker 12: that he was wrong in all of this, and I
53:09
Speaker 12: think that's the problem here. You have a family who
53:10
Speaker 12: sat here and said, defend yourself, defend yourself. At best,
53:14
Speaker 12: what might have initiated this was a push, a light push,
53:16
Speaker 12: which was described as the witnesses. So when your own
53:18
Speaker 12: parents tell you that you could defend yourself at all costs,
53:21
Speaker 12: there's a lot of issues for this kid, and it's
53:23
Speaker 12: quite obvious that the parents should also be involved in
53:25
Speaker 12: being prosecuted as well.
53:26
Speaker 1: Look, I've been pushed in a crowd before because somebody's
53:29
Speaker 1: being a rude you-know-what. That doesn't give you the right
53:32
Speaker 1: to whip out a knife or a gun and kill them.
53:34
Speaker 2: The jury got it right. The judge got it right.
53:37
Speaker 1: The defense and this family and these celebrities and these
53:40
Speaker 1: people that have been down there sticking up for him, black, yellow, red, white, indifferent,
53:45
Speaker 1: because there's been all kinds down there during this trial
53:48
Speaker 1: saying that he's innocent and his self-defense.
53:51
Speaker 2: All you are nuts. Go look at the facts.
53:54
Speaker 1: Listen to the eyewitnesses who, by the way, are black
53:56
Speaker 1: and brown, not just white, and then sit down and
53:58
Speaker 1: shut up.
53:59
Speaker 2: Adults are talking. Brianna? Great work. Great interview. Thank you.
54:02
Speaker 12: Thank you, as always.
54:03
Speaker 2: Yep. And, folks, that does it for another.
54:06
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54:08
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54:10
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54:12
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54:16
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54:20
Speaker 1: another round. 8 Eastern, 5 Pacific. Until then, you all
54:23
Speaker 1: know what to do. Be proud Americans out there.
54:25
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