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S8 E1 Breaking News! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Ashley and I are back and
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Speaker 1: we are ecstatic for this podcast. This is a special podcast.
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Speaker 1: We don't plan on putting a podcast out today, but
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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation is blowing up. It's all over the news.
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Speaker 1: Everything's crazy. I have people like my grandma, my aunt,
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Speaker 1: my mother, friends on the street knowing what in the
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Speaker 1: world is going on with the Bachelor. There's got to
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Speaker 1: be something in that Bachelor water because everybody's in the news.
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Speaker 1: The one person that is also in the news of
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Speaker 1: my coast actually Ike and Eddie. Ashley. Your parents, Yes,
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Speaker 1: the parents unite for the first time. How was it.
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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to call that breaking news, but
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Speaker 1: it was very important news for happening for Jared and myself. Um,
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Speaker 1: and it went so well. It was crazy. When they
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Speaker 1: first met, well, we always knew that they were going
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Speaker 1: to get along splendidly, but from the first dinner I
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Speaker 1: could just see it in my parents eyes and his
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Speaker 1: parents eyes that they just loved each other. My mom
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Speaker 1: like almost cried saying goodbye to his mom today. It
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Speaker 1: was adorable. Um, and we had four five straight family
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Speaker 1: dinners together. Not one awkward silence, so much talking and
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Speaker 1: they connected so well. It was amazing. Were you worried
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Speaker 1: at all going into this about like kind of the
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Speaker 1: dynamic or the awkward silence? And I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: that's a big step, a huge step. I wish for
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Speaker 1: entertainment sake that I could say that we were anxious
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Speaker 1: about it, but we weren't at all. They have very
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Speaker 1: we were raised in very similar families, just like very nurturing,
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Speaker 1: fun loving, warm, funny parents, and they just bonded really well.
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Speaker 1: Can we get one really good story at first? Off,
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Speaker 1: how did Lauren, your sister handle this whole thing? Uh?
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Speaker 1: Which did she handle it? Well? We had her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: came because her sister, my sister's birthday is today. Uh
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Speaker 1: so she wanted to have her boyfriend of course on
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Speaker 1: the cruise, and because she would have been legit the
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Speaker 1: ninth wheel without him, of course he came. Because then
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Speaker 1: we also had Jared's sister, Shannon and her now husband.
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Speaker 1: They got married last week on the cruise and so
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Speaker 1: there were ten ten people, five couples. Lauren had met
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Speaker 1: Jared's parents before and she neither are going to get
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Speaker 1: along well, she um she had a great time. She's
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Speaker 1: very comfortable with his parents too, which is really nice
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Speaker 1: because Lawrence basically my find me swin and always with me.
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Speaker 1: Is is this the boyfriend that Lauren has that wear sunglasses?
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Speaker 1: Yessses up a lot this time. No way, it was great.
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Speaker 1: It was such a good man. Yeah, good for him. Well, Astley,
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Speaker 1: I'm ecstatic for you. I know that even though you
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Speaker 1: say you're not anxious, I I believe you. But that
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Speaker 1: is a big step in a relationship. And uh and
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Speaker 1: I feel like from here on out, I mean, what
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Speaker 1: other large kind of I guess benchmarks do you need
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Speaker 1: to get passed and up into the wedding day? Um,
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Speaker 1: when you do officially book the wedding, which I think
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Speaker 1: was probably going to be doing this week. My dad
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't stuff without him. We
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Speaker 1: have to just spend it. The check and that we
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Speaker 1: should have the venue locked down in an official day. Um.
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Speaker 1: The other nice thing about your parents getting along is
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Speaker 1: we could actually do holidays jointly, you know which My
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Speaker 1: parents can come up to an island for Christmas and
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Speaker 1: they can come down to Virginia for Thanksgiving. That's really
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Speaker 1: nice because a lot of people have to choose which
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Speaker 1: family to go to. But that was feeling that my
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Speaker 1: family is going to actually want to hang out with
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Speaker 1: the hay Bends more. Uh, this is just a love
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Speaker 1: story that keeps on giving. I appreciate this is good stuff.
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Speaker 1: Um Hey, Ashley, I'm excited for you and Jared to
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Speaker 1: what do you mean? You guys got to find a
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Speaker 1: travel peacefully. Some of the breaking news this week includes
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Speaker 1: Becca m is pregnant. There was yeah grumbling for a
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Speaker 1: couple of months now, but now it is confirmed. And
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Speaker 1: Joe is now on Dancing with the Stars and his
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Speaker 1: lady Kendall. Is he hard to talk about both things?
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Speaker 1: Let's get Kendall on the line. Hello, Hello, Kendall, Hello there,
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Speaker 1: how are you loving? Good? Evens on the line as well,
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Speaker 1: and we just want to on your love story. Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much? Story actually, but you say what long story?
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Speaker 1: It is a very crazy one. The crazy ones turn
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Speaker 1: out the best in a long run, I think. So
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Speaker 1: you can officially like challenge yourselves and almost go through
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Speaker 1: a couple of years of experience within a couple months.
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Speaker 1: So it's been fun. It seems like you and Joe
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Speaker 1: have definitely done that. Now he's living in l A. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's great for you. Are you trying to help him
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Speaker 1: along with his dancing skill so he gets to stay
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Speaker 1: in l A as much as possible? Oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 1: He's it's really cute because he's actually like putting so
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Speaker 1: much of himself into it, which I didn't expect because
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Speaker 1: he's this guy is literally never danced before. I can
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Speaker 1: barely get him to dance, and so now that he
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Speaker 1: found out he was drinking at the starts, he's completely
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Speaker 1: its embracing it, which is so awesome. And so yeah,
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Speaker 1: I practiced some of this that worked with him. It's
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Speaker 1: it's your love story, I mean, just so everybody knows
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Speaker 1: out there, Joe the Grocer or Joe kindled guy uh
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Speaker 1: from Bachelor period. I was announced to be on Dance
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Speaker 1: with the Stars, which is a huge deal considering a
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Speaker 1: guy that gets sent home night one. Still shocking. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how that happens, um but great for Kendall
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Speaker 1: gets announced to be on Dance with the Stars, which
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Speaker 1: is a big deal. We also this year's cast on
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Speaker 1: Dance of the Stars is Alexis wren of On A Lynch,
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Speaker 1: Nicky Glazer, John Schneider, Mary lou Rhette, and DeMarcus where
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Speaker 1: Bobby Bones, Danielle I'stead Wampablo the Passy, Joe the Grocer, Tannascy,
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Speaker 1: Nancy McKeon, Millow, Milo Mannheim, geez, I'm not good anyways.
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Speaker 1: Um Kendall, I'm so intrigued by your love story. I
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Speaker 1: found myself and I know you as a person a
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Speaker 1: little bit so frustrated with you, uh relating with you
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Speaker 1: at times. You took us through a roller coaster ride
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Speaker 1: and and America reacted to it. Okay, So we got
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Speaker 1: to see that play out. What happened post show that
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Speaker 1: made you say, yeah, Joe, you are my guy. I
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Speaker 1: think the crazy thing is you you go on paradise
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Speaker 1: if only a couple of weeks, so you don't really
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Speaker 1: know someone fully. And so after Chicago when we met up, um,
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Speaker 1: we weren't really official until the next couple of times
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Speaker 1: that we had bet each other. So he had flown
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Speaker 1: to l a Um and he came for a ben
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Speaker 1: tell all and we had hung out at that point.
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Speaker 1: And I think it was when I was driving him home.
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Speaker 1: While driving him to the airport, that really cheesy song
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Speaker 1: came on about not wanting someone to leave. I remember
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Speaker 1: crying in the car and he was comforting me, and
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Speaker 1: they're just weird. I remember thinking that he actually extended
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Speaker 1: his trips. I remember thinking that this might be the
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Speaker 1: last time, can actually be together. So it's just really sad,
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Speaker 1: and I think there was something about saying goodbye that
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Speaker 1: made us really not want to but actually really want
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Speaker 1: to work on it. And so, um, I think he
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Speaker 1: called me when I was He called me a couple
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Speaker 1: of days later and he but you know, we can't
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Speaker 1: not be together. It each try and because it distant
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Speaker 1: is something that really scared us. And so you know,
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Speaker 1: I was like a percent in and I think we
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Speaker 1: just decided to be a hunder and since then, So
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Speaker 1: my question is when you guys were like just when
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Speaker 1: you kind of broke up with him in the finale week,
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Speaker 1: was it just because then the word engagement was thrown
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Speaker 1: around because I think that you're ready to like maybe
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Speaker 1: be boyfriend girlfriend with him, but you definitely didn't want
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Speaker 1: him to propose. And I think that's completely understandable and
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Speaker 1: very very normal. Yeah, then you may have not looked
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Speaker 1: the greatest on the show, but mainly this isn't that moment.
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Speaker 1: But mainly it's because you were freaked out by engagement, right, Um,
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Speaker 1: it's definitely the engagement part. I think I was also
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Speaker 1: freaked out trying to figure out if the relationship can
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Speaker 1: actually work into the real world because we see off
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Speaker 1: the side of the country and both of us are
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Speaker 1: very invested in our friends and family and work and
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Speaker 1: so um, I've never had a long disis relationship, so
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Speaker 1: really freaked me out, Like I had absolutely no idea
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Speaker 1: how I would be able to do that, and UM,
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Speaker 1: I don't think he did either. We're thinking maybe l
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Speaker 1: a UM, and I just allowed the doubt to kind
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Speaker 1: of get in my head. I mean, as you guys know,
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Speaker 1: like grow so many days you're not you don't hang
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Speaker 1: out with a person at all. So that night I
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Speaker 1: went to bed with a lot of fears, all the
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Speaker 1: questions that I didn't really have answers to, and then
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Speaker 1: the entire next day I just allowed those to kind
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Speaker 1: of infest my mind, and by the time night hit,
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Speaker 1: I just was kind of a feeling like I made
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Speaker 1: up my mind and had made the right decision. And
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Speaker 1: I think as soon as I made that decision and
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Speaker 1: talked to him about it, I instantly regretted it. And
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Speaker 1: it was almost as if you don't know how to
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Speaker 1: go back once he's committed to something, so honestly, honestly,
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Speaker 1: I think from somebody who's been in paradise and knows
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Speaker 1: exactly the way it works. Like you mentioned, you don't
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Speaker 1: get to see that person during the day. You literally
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Speaker 1: go um like sundown to sundown without seeing them, and
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Speaker 1: it's a lot different. And when I was watching it,
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Speaker 1: I was like, I know what she's looking like on TV,
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Speaker 1: but I also know what she's springing out about and
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Speaker 1: think this is how I am someone that own things everything.
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Speaker 1: So when it came to that point, I definitely mi
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Speaker 1: mind is my worst enemy, and so I allowed it
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Speaker 1: to kind of take over, which was something that I
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Speaker 1: shouldn't have done. Kindle, I'm just like a lot of
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Speaker 1: the country. I really loved your love story with Joe
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Speaker 1: because I felt like it was it was real, like
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Speaker 1: you could just see two people who are trying to
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Speaker 1: be authentic, who are trying to be honest, who are
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Speaker 1: trying to make this weird like months of Paradise work. Uh.
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Speaker 1: But yet also I kind of and and this is
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Speaker 1: what I could have been wrong. And I'm just a
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Speaker 1: fan of you, so I don't really know what I
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Speaker 1: just you know, watch I felt like it was so
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Speaker 1: serious to you that you didn't want the kind of
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Speaker 1: aura or whatever the expectations of Paradise to affect some
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Speaker 1: think that could be really great, and so I respected
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Speaker 1: a little bit of you pulling back, not for the
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Speaker 1: breakup piece of it, but just because, like you said,
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Speaker 1: this could be something really special. And my question for
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Speaker 1: you now is now, do you guys off the show
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Speaker 1: you've met back up again? Do you believe this could
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Speaker 1: be something very special? Oh? Definitely, definitely. It's so crazy
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Speaker 1: how well I feel like are relation to exercited because
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Speaker 1: of Paradise, but apparently keep using knowing each other pretty well.
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Speaker 1: But it was afterwards that complete like leaps the bound
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Speaker 1: you know, so I think it's actually exercising in the
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Speaker 1: real world. Is being able to be him in his
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Speaker 1: element in Chicago and be in my element in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing that I really needed in order to
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Speaker 1: take the risks to be like this kind of relationship
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Speaker 1: is definitely worth it. I didn't want to be in
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Speaker 1: Laila Land with the whole seeing each other every day
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Speaker 1: in Paradise on the beach, you know, with like Saty
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Speaker 1: food and Margarita's, Like I think that was I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to be stuck in that world. I let's test
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Speaker 1: it out. The don't want you know, it's interesting, could
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Speaker 1: didn't offend you. Go no, no asked, please, I am.
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Speaker 1: I think all my questions about the relationship are answered.
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Speaker 1: I I was a little frustrated with your kindle. You
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Speaker 1: didn't come off bad. You know. Actually I both think
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Speaker 1: that last moment was not your best moment, but it was.
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Speaker 1: It was real. It tore you up a bit. I
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Speaker 1: just wanted to know because I haven't been on paradise
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Speaker 1: and and I want to see you and Joe do well,
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Speaker 1: uh you know whatever that means, um, and so I
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Speaker 1: just want to know kind of what led to this
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Speaker 1: moment now where you're looking at him again and saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: you're my person. I think that's awesome. So, um, actually
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Speaker 1: take it away. I was gonna say that sometimes the
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Speaker 1: bachelor bubble is the best point of your relationship, and
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Speaker 1: then some sometimes people are even stronger outside it, and
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Speaker 1: those are the amazing relationships, not really, you know, obviously
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Speaker 1: are successful. So it sounds like you and Joe are
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Speaker 1: on the right track actually by flourishing the real world. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: I want to move on from that and talk about
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Speaker 1: how your friend Becca m is now pregnant. I know,
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I found out. I literally found out
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Speaker 1: right before I went on Paradise, and I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: She just told me she was pregnant, and I didn't
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Speaker 1: know if she was gonna keep it or what was
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Speaker 1: going to happen. And then I went to through through
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Speaker 1: the entire season of Paradise and then came back and
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Speaker 1: she told me that she was keeping the baby, and
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Speaker 1: I was just so excited for her because it's you know,
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Speaker 1: she's just such a nurturing, a nurturing spirit, and she
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Speaker 1: put so much of love and thought into everything that
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Speaker 1: she does. So I'm just excited to see I don't know,
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Speaker 1: her engraced in like taking care of a baby. I
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Speaker 1: think there was gonna be a great parents. Is this
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Speaker 1: the boyfriend that she's had since February Marching? Yes, yeah
15:48
Speaker 1: he is. He's so great. And was she going to
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Speaker 1: um not keep Paradise because she was in a committed
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Speaker 1: relationship before she found out to your pregnant. Um? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so that was because of the reason. I'm I think
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of other reasons why she decided that
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Speaker 1: to do Paradise, but that was definitely one of the
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Speaker 1: main reasons because she had recently met Graceton and although
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Speaker 1: the relationship was very new, it was growing, and they
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Speaker 1: feel like that was something that she wanted to experience
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Speaker 1: and not throw it away just to you know, go
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Speaker 1: on a show. And I also feel like she wanted
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Speaker 1: to kind of separate herself from the bachelor world as well.
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Speaker 1: Do you think I mean going into this however it
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Speaker 1: worked out? Um, is this something that she celebrated right away?
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Speaker 1: Did the scare or is this like the next good
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Speaker 1: best step for for Rebecca and her grace? And I
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Speaker 1: think it is. Yeah, I can imagine. I mean I
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Speaker 1: can imagine it's terrifying, you know, going into a whole
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Speaker 1: new life because your life takes such a one a
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Speaker 1: d after having a child that you go from being
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Speaker 1: you know selfisher focusing on yourself to putting everything you
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Speaker 1: have into a child. So I definitely think it's like
16:53
Speaker 1: an amazing step for them because they're already just such
16:56
Speaker 1: a funny couple and they have a lot of the
16:59
Speaker 1: same They have a lot of differences, but they have
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Speaker 1: a lot of similarities and I think that's where that's
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Speaker 1: going to shine with, you know, having a child. So
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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Is the little family, you know, Grayson was
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Speaker 1: like opening up a rock gym They're like they're kind
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Speaker 1: of like a tipster, you know, cute couple. I love it.
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Speaker 1: I I don't know, this is so cool. This whole week,
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Speaker 1: Kendall has been I mean, as you probably realate, is
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Speaker 1: like I been insane when it comes to Bachelor news
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Speaker 1: and and and you know, Joe obviously getting announced on
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Speaker 1: the Dance with the Stars is a big deal. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you're gonna be sitting in the audience clapping him on.
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Speaker 1: And then the second news, Um, you know, some of
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Speaker 1: the news was celebrated or some of the news was
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Speaker 1: worthy of celebration. Some you know, beg us to ask
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Speaker 1: more questions, but we are ecstatic. Rebecca, Uh, this is
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Speaker 1: a really really cool thing. And uh and it feels
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Speaker 1: like she has a lot of support out there from
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Speaker 1: all the ladies on your season. Have you all stayed
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Speaker 1: pretty close? Yeah? Yeah, It's crazy how we've all been
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Speaker 1: able to, you know, be very close. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know that's sanon. Becca and I live in Los Angeles,
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Speaker 1: so easy for us to you know, see each other
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Speaker 1: all the time. And we're planning because you know, baby
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Speaker 1: shower right now. But I'm also um trying to keep
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Speaker 1: in touch with everybody else that's you know, all around
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Speaker 1: the country, like I just um went to see Jackline
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Speaker 1: and New York and so, um yeah, it's an amazing
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Speaker 1: group of people and we've all been through similar things,
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Speaker 1: so we find so much comfort in handling, you know,
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Speaker 1: the ups and downs of everything that this experience is.
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Speaker 1: And my last question, Kendall is how is Tia dealing
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Speaker 1: with um Colvin be the next Bachelor? Oh? It is great.
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Speaker 1: I mean, she's very supportive. I think that they decided to.
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Speaker 1: I mean, of course they're like finally on the same page,
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Speaker 1: which is amazing. And I think that, um, they have
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Speaker 1: a lot of care and love for each other and
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Speaker 1: it's not romantic, but I think it's very much like
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Speaker 1: a very strong friendship. So um yeah, she's been nothing
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Speaker 1: but supportive from it. I I wonder if watching him though,
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Speaker 1: it is gonna be hard or can we can? Can
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19:02
Speaker 1: not that I know, I'm not that I know of,
19:04
Speaker 1: but I mean I cannot give be extremely difficult to watch.
19:07
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19:10
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19:12
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19:38
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23:09
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23:13
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't necessarily understand it. We've talked
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Speaker 1: about this before. I'm like, what's the compliment and what's not?
23:18
Speaker 1: But you and your sister both are doing these videos
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23:28
Speaker 1: you joking? What's what's happening here? I just was truly
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23:53
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23:59
Speaker 1: I Yeah, I think I've got. I think I've got.
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24:06
Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of beach body. I do
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Speaker 1: Bachelor pod or Bachelor pod to five zero zero five
26:15
Speaker 1: zero zero to get started today. A few weeks ago,
26:19
Speaker 1: we had one of our most listened to segments. I mean,
26:21
Speaker 1: we had thousands of responses to an actor about Disney. Yeah,
26:26
Speaker 1: it's it's wild that Disney movies can spark such an interest.
26:29
Speaker 1: And and during that segment, we brought up somebody that
26:32
Speaker 1: I met in Iowa at a Zack Johnson. Uh, Zack
26:36
Speaker 1: Johnson Foundation golf tournament. Uh, he's a good Ira boy.
26:40
Speaker 1: He has a lot of cool stuff going on right now.
26:42
Speaker 1: He's coming on the podcast. One of Ashley's favorites, one
26:45
Speaker 1: of my favorites, Riley Smith. Riley, are you out there? Ah?
26:50
Speaker 1: What's up y'all? Hi? It's been three years since I
26:56
Speaker 1: saw you backstage to the I Heart Festival and I
26:59
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that from Motocross and I think he
27:03
Speaker 1: may be forming with me. Yeah, I mean that's just
27:07
Speaker 1: how I say hello. But you should have told me
27:09
Speaker 1: that you that you knew me. Well, I don't know
27:12
Speaker 1: what it doesn't say motocross. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't stop
27:17
Speaker 1: anybody else. I was gonna say, I mean, Riley, how
27:21
Speaker 1: does that feel? I mean, you've done a ton uh
27:24
Speaker 1: since Motocross. But it's funny because we did this whole
27:27
Speaker 1: segment on Disney movies on this podcast from way back
27:30
Speaker 1: in the day, and we had probably the best response
27:33
Speaker 1: we've ever had on this podcast. I mean we have
27:36
Speaker 1: I don't know, like hundreds of thousands of listens every week,
27:39
Speaker 1: and I felt like we've got hundreds of thousands of
27:41
Speaker 1: responses on favorite Disney movies. Your name was brought up
27:43
Speaker 1: over and over against it. For all the work that
27:46
Speaker 1: you've done today, this generation still remembers you for motocross.
27:51
Speaker 1: How how is that? It's funny if anybody that knows
27:57
Speaker 1: me kind of makes makes fun of it. Uh, tolling
27:59
Speaker 1: in too, because you're right, like, I think I've been
28:02
Speaker 1: doing this twenty years and almost like eighty projects or
28:06
Speaker 1: something like that, and uh, I mean literally every single
28:10
Speaker 1: day someone stops me and says motocross, And uh. I
28:15
Speaker 1: would say, if if I had never worked again, I
28:18
Speaker 1: would probably be really bitter. But because you know, life
28:22
Speaker 1: went on and I kept working. It's it's it's cool.
28:25
Speaker 1: I don't mind it at all. I actually embrace it,
28:28
Speaker 1: um because when you start, when you start acting, I
28:31
Speaker 1: guess you would be, you know, ecstatic if you could
28:34
Speaker 1: have a movie that touched the generation and left the
28:39
Speaker 1: left the handprint on an entire generation. We didn't expect
28:43
Speaker 1: that when we made the movie, but I don't think
28:47
Speaker 1: I didn't even though I never I've never watched Disney before.
28:49
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what it was. I was just
28:51
Speaker 1: happy to get a job and then uh, and then
28:54
Speaker 1: one day it came out and at that time, like
28:57
Speaker 1: I couldn't even go out in public. It was nuts.
28:59
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, boy band status and uh
29:03
Speaker 1: and so it was crazy. But but now it's like
29:05
Speaker 1: it's sweet. Like when people talk about it, like I'll
29:07
Speaker 1: talk back about it and uh, embrace it. It's I
29:11
Speaker 1: think it's fine. Well, I mean, you're gonna be known
29:14
Speaker 1: that your icon that came out of my mouth. But
29:21
Speaker 1: like when it comes to heart throbs, you're one of
29:23
Speaker 1: the like early two thousand heart throbs, and I mean
29:26
Speaker 1: that's not a bad reputation to have. I guess not.
29:31
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, now my goal is to just
29:33
Speaker 1: find something in the coming years that replaces that you
29:37
Speaker 1: know that people will talk about for another twenty years. Um.
29:41
Speaker 1: So that's that's what drives you. I guess what are
29:44
Speaker 1: you working on now that, uh, that you think could
29:47
Speaker 1: be have that potential? Or I know, when when we
29:50
Speaker 1: were in Highway together it's Zach Johnson Foundation Doc tournament,
29:53
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about some of these new projects that
29:56
Speaker 1: you had coming up. Is there anything that you want
29:58
Speaker 1: to share with our listeners that you're super excited about. Oh? Man, well,
30:02
Speaker 1: you never know what it's going to be, that's the thing.
30:04
Speaker 1: And so I don't ever go into taking a job
30:07
Speaker 1: because it's you know, social status potential or I mean,
30:12
Speaker 1: I always try to take a job for the script.
30:15
Speaker 1: Then hopefully that translates and then maybe that will connect
30:18
Speaker 1: and resonate and maybe that'll be the next motocross. But
30:22
Speaker 1: now I don't know. Right now, in Chicago, I'm really
30:26
Speaker 1: excited about this new show I just started called Proven Innocent.
30:29
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's the new show. It's gonna be on
30:31
Speaker 1: Fox coming in January. We um just started shooting it.
30:35
Speaker 1: Where I'm on my way to work right now, actually
30:37
Speaker 1: in the car. We're going to uh somewhere in the Burbs.
30:40
Speaker 1: But UM, but we're filming now. We're on the second
30:42
Speaker 1: episode and it's cool. It's Kelsey Grammer. UM, a really
30:46
Speaker 1: great actress named Rochelle Lefer plays my sister and uh,
30:50
Speaker 1: it's about a group of people who defend wrongfully convicted people. UM,
30:56
Speaker 1: my sister and I on the show. We're wrongfully confused,
30:59
Speaker 1: convey to a murder and spent ten years in prison
31:02
Speaker 1: and then released and so now we're kind of fighting
31:04
Speaker 1: the good fight for other people like us. And I
31:07
Speaker 1: think it's a really hot topic right now. Like I
31:09
Speaker 1: love all the datelines and the Polizon's and the podcast,
31:12
Speaker 1: so I'm like addicted to that kind of stuff, so
31:16
Speaker 1: that my biggest fear in life is being literally somebody
31:20
Speaker 1: knocked on the door and arresting me for something I
31:22
Speaker 1: didn't do. And so when the script came along and
31:24
Speaker 1: it was to play that exact guy, like, I passed
31:27
Speaker 1: on everything else to take this job. So excited about it.
31:30
Speaker 1: Hopefully this will take off, but I just keep doing
31:34
Speaker 1: them until until one does, until one becomes the next motocross.
31:39
Speaker 1: That sounds like an amazing show, though, I'm definitely going
31:42
Speaker 1: to watch in Uman you and UM for all the
31:46
Speaker 1: girls who do, and we'll always think of you as
31:48
Speaker 1: their hearts drops from the early two thousands. Are you
31:50
Speaker 1: still sing off? I am? I am currently still single.
31:56
Speaker 1: I guess it's you know, it's always complicated, but I am.
32:00
Speaker 1: Uh oh, it's always complicated. So you should probably go
32:03
Speaker 1: over to the help I Second Dating podcast and do
32:05
Speaker 1: a little segment with them as well. Okay, all right, um,
32:11
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's so funny that I've also had met
32:14
Speaker 1: both of you guys at different times and then you
32:16
Speaker 1: had this podcast. I had a friend from New York
32:18
Speaker 1: that I hadn't talked to forever and she hit me
32:20
Speaker 1: up on text. I was like, I'm not even sure
32:22
Speaker 1: this is still your number, but Ben and Ashley are
32:24
Speaker 1: talking about you on their podcast and it's really cute
32:26
Speaker 1: and I was like, no way. So that's why I TechEd,
32:28
Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel like we need to
32:29
Speaker 1: talk to Yeah. It's uh dude, I'm so happy you did.
32:34
Speaker 1: It's it's hilaric. You've been awesome for anybody out there listening. Um,
32:38
Speaker 1: you know, we get to do this event in Iowa
32:40
Speaker 1: every year for a buddy of ours who plays on
32:42
Speaker 1: the on the tour and uh Zack. Every year when
32:46
Speaker 1: I show up. He always mentioned that Riley's there. He goes, hey,
32:49
Speaker 1: Riley dropped everything he was doing. He took off work
32:54
Speaker 1: and he came out to Iowa, which is where you're from. Uh,
32:57
Speaker 1: before Zack in this foundation to support education, um in
33:02
Speaker 1: the secret areas. So man, you're you're a great dude.
33:05
Speaker 1: And and before we send you off here, I want
33:07
Speaker 1: to know your twenty two or twenty three when motocross
33:10
Speaker 1: came out? Correct? Yeah? I think? So what is it like?
33:14
Speaker 1: I mean, because what we like to do on this
33:16
Speaker 1: podcast is kind of, uh, break down the barriers and
33:19
Speaker 1: make people feel related or at least relate a little
33:22
Speaker 1: bit to the people that they love and the people
33:24
Speaker 1: that that they feel. Our celebrities, what was it like
33:27
Speaker 1: for you as a twenty two or twenty three year
33:29
Speaker 1: old person to be considered America's heart throb? And how
33:33
Speaker 1: does that impact your life today? Wow? Good question. Um.
33:40
Speaker 1: I guess sometimes when it's happening, you don't even it.
33:42
Speaker 1: It doesn't register. It's not it doesn't feel real and
33:45
Speaker 1: it it shouldn't feel real for a lot of people
33:48
Speaker 1: in that situation and for me, Uh, we didn't expect it.
33:52
Speaker 1: And then the movie came out and then literally it
33:54
Speaker 1: happens overnight, and I remember being that young. Just me personally,
33:57
Speaker 1: the way I deal with it is I kind of
33:59
Speaker 1: run and hide. Um. It actually almost makes me sad
34:03
Speaker 1: because it's so overwhelming. When you don't under it doesn't register.
34:05
Speaker 1: It's not it shouldn't be, it shouldn't feel real. And
34:08
Speaker 1: I think when it finally does, then things really changed.
34:11
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I don't know. I mean, I
34:15
Speaker 1: just try to always keep everything in perspective. Being from Iowa,
34:18
Speaker 1: having a good family that reminds you of how big
34:21
Speaker 1: a dork you are. UM, it kind of keeps everything real. Um.
34:26
Speaker 1: But you know, in one way, I'm glad that it happened.
34:29
Speaker 1: And then I got through it and came out the
34:30
Speaker 1: other side. And and if you can, I think you
34:34
Speaker 1: see a lot of difference with the way people handle
34:37
Speaker 1: it over the years, and some people that breaks them
34:39
Speaker 1: and some people it's just a part of a small
34:42
Speaker 1: part of who they were who they are. UM. And
34:44
Speaker 1: I think that comes from your friends and your family
34:47
Speaker 1: grounding you. And if you've got people in your life
34:49
Speaker 1: that tell you how it is and are honest with you, Uh,
34:53
Speaker 1: you can use that kind of influence for good. But
34:56
Speaker 1: if you have a lot of yes men people in
34:58
Speaker 1: your life that just tell what you want to hear,
35:01
Speaker 1: it can very easily spiral a lot of control. So
35:03
Speaker 1: I mean it's a double edged sword, but it can
35:05
Speaker 1: definitely having an influence. Uh can be a positive thing.
35:10
Speaker 1: And I love when I see people use it for good. Well,
35:14
Speaker 1: we will make that we passed this message along to Colton.
35:18
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, Colton is the next bachelor. He Uh
35:23
Speaker 1: he needs this message. Uh. He's he's a good dude.
35:27
Speaker 1: He's gonna do great. Uh he is, and he has
35:32
Speaker 1: a big heart. I just saw actually on Instagram the
35:34
Speaker 1: day he posted about some puppies. Again, I mean, he
35:36
Speaker 1: loves his puppies and he loves his people, So what
35:38
Speaker 1: else could you ask for? Well, and Ben, I gotta
35:41
Speaker 1: tell you, you've got a lot of fans in my
35:43
Speaker 1: my network of friends and family. Everybody loves you and
35:46
Speaker 1: loves you and listen to your shows and and uh
35:49
Speaker 1: like when we golf together, everybody was freaking out that
35:51
Speaker 1: I knew you. I'm like, yeah, he's a buddy of mine.
35:53
Speaker 1: So if you'll do me a big favor and embarrass
35:55
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. But you just say happy
35:57
Speaker 1: thirty two, Jen, she's your future X wife. You just
36:00
Speaker 1: don't know it yet. Oh man, I would love to jin.
36:03
Speaker 1: You're beautiful, you're sophisticated. You you walk and talk with grace. Uh.
36:08
Speaker 1: Happy thirtieth birthday to you from Riley, Ashley and myself,
36:13
Speaker 1: but especially me. I look forward to many years spending together.
36:18
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ben. That's why you're a good one man.
36:20
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm so glad we got to catch up. Yeah, dude,
36:24
Speaker 1: you two keep doing you and congratulations on all the
36:27
Speaker 1: recent success. Keep it up. And for anybody out there listening,
36:30
Speaker 1: make sure you check out Riley's new show coming up
36:32
Speaker 1: when Riley It's gonna be on in January on Fox
36:36
Speaker 1: Proven Innocent, Perfect, Good, all right, we'll be walking hey,
36:41
Speaker 1: y'all keep it up. I'm gonna be listening to you.
36:43
Speaker 1: Thanks man. Yeah. Uh. Actually he's a good one man
36:49
Speaker 1: or woman. Sorry, he's a good one. Um. It's crazy
36:54
Speaker 1: to think, even today, how much those Disney movies really
36:57
Speaker 1: will affect our generation. I mean it's it's it is
37:00
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Speaker 1: Fascination has been all over the news. UM. One of
40:23
Speaker 1: the largest stories of the week, if not the largest,
40:26
Speaker 1: is the situation between Jordan and Jenna. One day, I
40:29
Speaker 1: was frustrated with like legitimately frustrated, UM because the show
40:34
Speaker 1: gets a bad rap oftentimes and a lot of things
40:38
Speaker 1: that brings on itself. UM. But then every once in
40:41
Speaker 1: a while you kind of have these relationships that defy reality,
40:44
Speaker 1: like your relationship with Jared, and you're like, this is
40:47
Speaker 1: so real. The show has brought these two people together
40:50
Speaker 1: and there in love, and I thought that, really you
40:53
Speaker 1: and I talked about it. I thought that happened for
40:55
Speaker 1: Jordan and Jenna. Week the news came out, I was like,
41:02
Speaker 1: these people are actually going to make it in the
41:04
Speaker 1: long haul. And now we hear that Jenna has basically
41:07
Speaker 1: been cheating on Jordan's since he got together, didn't they
41:11
Speaker 1: left Paradise and maybe it was all like this weird
41:15
Speaker 1: plan from the very beginning for her, No, just find
41:20
Speaker 1: somebody right, right. So we have to give credit to
41:24
Speaker 1: Reality Seves because he really did break this case, and
41:26
Speaker 1: it was it was quite something because what happened was
41:30
Speaker 1: this man who I guess Jenna had been seeing her
41:33
Speaker 1: talking to, was sending Reality Steves these messages that he
41:38
Speaker 1: was getting from Jenna, saying things along the lines of
41:42
Speaker 1: I don't even like Jordan as a person, this is
41:45
Speaker 1: all for business. I don't love him, I don't like
41:48
Speaker 1: I don't even like him, or something along the line
41:50
Speaker 1: to that, and she said that I love you. She
41:52
Speaker 1: referred to the to the other man, she said, I
41:54
Speaker 1: love you. And then on Reality Steves ended up tweeting
42:00
Speaker 1: out the night before he announced all this drama that
42:05
Speaker 1: he was going to have a lot of dirt on
42:07
Speaker 1: someone to come out the next day. And then when
42:11
Speaker 1: Jenna saw those tweets that he had dirt on someone,
42:15
Speaker 1: she immediately assumed that it was him or that it
42:18
Speaker 1: was hers that he had dirt on. And then she
42:22
Speaker 1: ends up calling Jordan's in like a panic mode, saying
42:26
Speaker 1: that she thinks that reality Steve has dirt on her.
42:31
Speaker 1: So that makes everything. See, you know, she was immediately
42:35
Speaker 1: expecting that it was a dirt on her. Obviously she
42:38
Speaker 1: did it. You know, there's no backpeddling after that, and
42:42
Speaker 1: she did. Then I think that she called Jordan's and
42:45
Speaker 1: then she called him back and they had two conversations
42:48
Speaker 1: about how worried she was about the breaking news that
42:51
Speaker 1: was going to be announced. And then the next day
42:55
Speaker 1: when it was released, Jenna didn't come groveling back to
43:00
Speaker 1: Jordan's and saying and denying anything or even like really apologizing.
43:04
Speaker 1: She just was like just she just it was just
43:09
Speaker 1: what it was. She didn't start denying anything for like
43:12
Speaker 1: twenty four hours afterwards. And this, of course, you know
43:16
Speaker 1: the way that she acted, and of course the way
43:19
Speaker 1: she acted that whole twenty four hours span make shortan
43:22
Speaker 1: believe that all of this is true. It's absolutely still
43:27
Speaker 1: crazy me. The stuff that reality Steves can pull off,
43:30
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't know how he does it.
43:31
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to know how he
43:33
Speaker 1: does it. Um, but this situation I just angered me
43:37
Speaker 1: because it's so it's very manipulative. You're messing with somebody's emotions,
43:43
Speaker 1: You're playing with somebody's heart. I mean, Jordan's kind of
43:47
Speaker 1: had this, you know character during Beckat season that we
43:50
Speaker 1: loved to hate and we love to laugh at. And
43:52
Speaker 1: then we also got to see and kind of come
43:55
Speaker 1: into one of being one of America's favorite characters on
43:57
Speaker 1: Bachelor Paradise because look like and it felt like Jenna
44:02
Speaker 1: kind of had not broken him but tame the beast
44:06
Speaker 1: and that he was his best self because of her.
44:09
Speaker 1: And then this curt it out and I can't imagine
44:12
Speaker 1: where he's feeling. Um, he's obviously devastating and heartbroken. He's
44:20
Speaker 1: he's totally blindsided and completely betrayed. I mean, how is
44:24
Speaker 1: he ever going to be able to trust anyone again?
44:25
Speaker 1: After this? He gets engaged, it's totally head over heels
44:28
Speaker 1: and love love at first sight with this woman and
44:31
Speaker 1: then she's been cheating on him or it's like not
44:34
Speaker 1: even just cheating, it's just it's a lie. It's like
44:38
Speaker 1: lying to the utmost degree for the past three months.
44:42
Speaker 1: I don't like this and it is it's it's insane
44:46
Speaker 1: and it's not okay. And that's the thing is, like
44:48
Speaker 1: we can gloss over this and anybody out there listening
44:51
Speaker 1: can be like, oh, this is just reality television. Oh yeah,
44:54
Speaker 1: you expect this kind of stuff. No, Like Jordan really
44:57
Speaker 1: cared about Jenna, like he loves this woman and so
45:00
Speaker 1: love and love and so put yourself in his shoes,
45:04
Speaker 1: say you fall in love with somebody. Take the TV
45:07
Speaker 1: piece out of this, right. I mean, we've had couple
45:10
Speaker 1: get married from this show. Like, he's in love with
45:12
Speaker 1: this woman. He thinks he's engaged, he's telling his friends
45:15
Speaker 1: and family, he's excited, he's posting on the social media,
45:18
Speaker 1: and then before you know it, he realizes it was
45:21
Speaker 1: all in act. It's crushing. It would be brutal. And
45:26
Speaker 1: somebody that can kind of help, I guess, talk him
45:30
Speaker 1: through this and get him back on track is somebody
45:33
Speaker 1: that we appreciate. It's l from men. L create an
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45:40
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45:48
Speaker 1: We were just talking about how Jordan's is recovering from
45:53
Speaker 1: not just a breakup, but a really traumatic betrayal. Are
45:57
Speaker 1: you familiar with the story? Oh, I'm opening to elier
46:00
Speaker 1: with it. Yes, So you recommend him taking the first
46:06
Speaker 1: step to recover from his heartbreak, Well, I think, you know,
46:10
Speaker 1: I see so many breakup stories through men, and I
46:14
Speaker 1: have to say, I feel like this one has the
46:17
Speaker 1: most layers because I think, like you said, the first
46:20
Speaker 1: one is the breach of trust, and then the second
46:23
Speaker 1: layer is if the texts are true, which um, you
46:28
Speaker 1: know I'm very guysally talked about. Yeah. Um. Then she
46:32
Speaker 1: was saying that the feelings for him aren't real, So
46:34
Speaker 1: that's like the second layer of heart break. And then
46:36
Speaker 1: the third layer of this is all playing out on TV.
46:38
Speaker 1: So I really feel for him, um, because I feel
46:43
Speaker 1: like normally are dealing with one or two of those things,
46:45
Speaker 1: not all three of those things at once. Um. I
46:50
Speaker 1: think the I think one of the biggest things that
46:56
Speaker 1: he will probably deal with and the struggle with once
47:00
Speaker 1: he's sort of over the shock of it all is
47:05
Speaker 1: the fact that he had made so many future plans
47:08
Speaker 1: with her, And I think that's one of the hardest
47:11
Speaker 1: parts of this type of heartbreak is that you have
47:14
Speaker 1: made a lot of plans together, Like they they were engaged,
47:17
Speaker 1: they were planning to have kids, they had asked Chris
47:19
Speaker 1: to appreciates a wedding. So so I really do think
47:22
Speaker 1: part of the morning process for him is going to
47:24
Speaker 1: be um really focusing on letting go of those future plans.
47:29
Speaker 1: It's almost like morning this future that you're you're no
47:33
Speaker 1: longer going to have. And I feel like that's going
47:35
Speaker 1: to be a really important step for him to take
47:38
Speaker 1: in order to make space for something new and for
47:40
Speaker 1: someone new in his life. So, l you have a
47:44
Speaker 1: service called mend. I know you've talked about this on
47:47
Speaker 1: Jared's podcast Help Us Like a Dating a few times,
47:50
Speaker 1: But your service it's supposed to help people step by
47:53
Speaker 1: step get over their breakup. And I've always frowned whenever
47:59
Speaker 1: I'm going through Maybe I haven't had too many breakups,
48:02
Speaker 1: but like, but a breakup of whatever means to a
48:07
Speaker 1: breakup of sorts, I always find it's the death of
48:10
Speaker 1: the day dreams that is the most hurtful. Thing exactly. Yeah,
48:16
Speaker 1: and I think you know, they took it even a
48:17
Speaker 1: step further right, Like a lot of times, I mean,
48:20
Speaker 1: just from personal experience, sometimes you're not even sharing those
48:23
Speaker 1: plans that you're making with someone, right, Like you're just
48:26
Speaker 1: thinking about all those things that you want to do.
48:28
Speaker 1: And even then it's really heartbreaking. But the fact that
48:31
Speaker 1: they actually made all of these plans, not just the
48:34
Speaker 1: two of them together, but the fact that they made
48:36
Speaker 1: all of these plans in public, you know, and everybody,
48:39
Speaker 1: like the whole world knows about all these plans, and
48:42
Speaker 1: and and now they have to uh, well, now he
48:46
Speaker 1: has to move forward and try to let go of that.
48:49
Speaker 1: I do think that that is going to be one
48:51
Speaker 1: of the hardest parts once he gets over sort of
48:53
Speaker 1: the shock of it, and just the sort of the
48:56
Speaker 1: shock that what he thought she was feeling, you know,
49:00
Speaker 1: she wasn't feeling if the texts are true. You know,
49:03
Speaker 1: I don't know how you recover. I don't know how
49:05
Speaker 1: you recover from that. I really don't. And it is
49:08
Speaker 1: to tell us as the expert here, can you recover
49:11
Speaker 1: from that? And what does it look like? Yeah, you
49:15
Speaker 1: absolutely can recover from that. And I think that's That's
49:19
Speaker 1: one of the really beautiful things that I've witnessed through,
49:22
Speaker 1: you know, the thousands and thousands and thousands of breakups
49:25
Speaker 1: that we witness with men, is that the human heart
49:28
Speaker 1: is so resilient. And I really do think that our
49:31
Speaker 1: core we are built to be resilient and to deal
49:34
Speaker 1: with struggles and challenges. And yes, this is a really
49:37
Speaker 1: hard one for all the reasons we talked about. I
49:40
Speaker 1: think there are so many layers of it, um, but
49:43
Speaker 1: you can recover. And I think the first step UM
49:48
Speaker 1: with any breakup, but especially this one, is you really
49:51
Speaker 1: have to take care of your physical body because when
49:55
Speaker 1: you're going through a breakup, there's so many physiological changes
49:59
Speaker 1: and neuro local changes. You actually start to feel like
50:02
Speaker 1: you're going through withdrawal. And a lot of people actually
50:05
Speaker 1: get sick like I don't know if you guys have
50:06
Speaker 1: ever experienced that. You get you catch like a cold
50:09
Speaker 1: or something after he goes through a breakup, and it's
50:12
Speaker 1: because your body is you know, experiencing UM. Your immune
50:16
Speaker 1: system actually gets to dressed. So you really have to
50:18
Speaker 1: take care of your body. UM. Focusing on sleep if
50:21
Speaker 1: you can't sleep, UM, you know, getting exercise so that
50:25
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50:28
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50:31
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50:34
Speaker 1: And I think that that's probably where Jordan is UM
50:38
Speaker 1: as soon as he's sort of I imagine right now
50:40
Speaker 1: he's more in the shock phase because it's passed, but
50:44
Speaker 1: pretty soon he will hit that phase where he starts
50:46
Speaker 1: to really feel it physically. You know, when I did
50:51
Speaker 1: go through one of the most traumatic breakup is things
50:54
Speaker 1: of my life. I actually lost over ten pounds in
50:57
Speaker 1: two months, and it was about six months before I
51:01
Speaker 1: went on The Bachelor, So I actually try on And
51:03
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on my my Instagram this week that
51:06
Speaker 1: I tried on address that I wore on The Bachelor
51:09
Speaker 1: when I was thirteen pounds lighter and I was that
51:13
Speaker 1: much lighter than I am now because of a breakup. Yeah. Yeah,
51:18
Speaker 1: it affects. I mean, it affects everything. Like I think
51:21
Speaker 1: that's the really interesting part about breakups that you don't
51:24
Speaker 1: necessarily know. Um, you experienced it, but you don't necessarily
51:28
Speaker 1: know everything that's happening underneath the surface. And I mean
51:32
Speaker 1: your immune system gets suppressed. Um, your heartbeat can actually change.
51:36
Speaker 1: So they've actually studied what you know, what people's heartbeats
51:39
Speaker 1: sound like after a break up. You can actually see it.
51:43
Speaker 1: And um, you know when you're looking at a heartbeat
51:46
Speaker 1: and um, you know your hormone levels are way out
51:50
Speaker 1: of whack. Um. I mean really like it's a I
51:54
Speaker 1: really think that you should get heartbreak days, just like
51:57
Speaker 1: you get six days at work, because it is that
52:00
Speaker 1: that's a difficult thing. And um, and you know that's
52:04
Speaker 1: why I think it's so important once someone's going through that,
52:07
Speaker 1: that you're not just dismissive of it and you know,
52:09
Speaker 1: telling them I will just get over it. You know,
52:11
Speaker 1: who wasn't that great anyway or she was lame anyway. Like,
52:14
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52:18
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52:55
Speaker 1: Although I'll say we do not have we have breakup
52:58
Speaker 1: reasons that sort of teh Jordan's breakup leason like infidelity. Um,
53:04
Speaker 1: but this one is this is like a complicated we
53:07
Speaker 1: need like another box for this one. France, Well, thank you,
53:13
Speaker 1: l we we hope that he listens to your stuff
53:17
Speaker 1: on then I'll let him know about it and he's
53:21
Speaker 1: then yes, and until the next time we have a
53:24
Speaker 1: heartbroken back to with a dest it on our hands,
53:26
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you them. Yeah, thank you so much, guys,
53:30
Speaker 1: thank you. By hey. Actually, we have one last person's
53:36
Speaker 1: opinion on the Jordan's situation, somebody that I I think
53:41
Speaker 1: we'll have maybe not a unique opinion on it, but
53:43
Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear his thoughts. We have one of
53:46
Speaker 1: our most consistent guests. I don't know if he has
53:49
Speaker 1: anything to do with his life other than come on
53:50
Speaker 1: the almost famous podcast. Um, we have David the Chicken Online. Now, David,
53:57
Speaker 1: you out there, David David, Are you David David? What
54:05
Speaker 1: did I do. What's up? Guys? Are you sad? Am?
54:09
Speaker 1: I sad Jordan's I feel terrible for them? He was
54:15
Speaker 1: your Now you have sympathy, absolutely, I'm first with the guy. Yeah,
54:23
Speaker 1: but you said them, Who side are you on here?
54:25
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like we've just talked to a
54:27
Speaker 1: couple of people. We've got a little bit of insight
54:29
Speaker 1: into what happened. It sounds like jin had a boyfriend.
54:32
Speaker 1: She's sitting this boyfriend's text. This whole Jordan relationship was
54:35
Speaker 1: for business and profit. Um, are you sad for him?
54:39
Speaker 1: Are you bad for them? Or how are you feeling?
54:42
Speaker 1: Like Ashley said, David, you must be sad. I'm definitely sad.
54:48
Speaker 1: I'm sad for the relationship. I'm sad for Jordan's. Um,
54:51
Speaker 1: I feel bad. You know, I feel bad. He put
54:53
Speaker 1: himself out there like that, and you know it was
54:56
Speaker 1: obviously certain was in love. And the fact that Jenna
55:01
Speaker 1: was just using it for business and had something going
55:04
Speaker 1: on on the side. I can't even imagine that. I
55:06
Speaker 1: feel so bad for the guy. It crushes you. David.
55:11
Speaker 1: Here's uh, We're not gonna keep you long. We know
55:13
Speaker 1: that you've got a busy life and We've got to
55:15
Speaker 1: keep using you for the almost famous, famous podcast and tea.
55:19
Speaker 1: If you could describe Jordan's in one word right now,
55:25
Speaker 1: what would it be. Would you say, if you're Jordan
55:28
Speaker 1: you're sitting interview, would you say a model? David, That's ridiculous.
55:32
Speaker 1: He would not describe himself as a model right now.
55:34
Speaker 1: He's heartbroken, devastated, devastated. I am a devastated guy, he
55:41
Speaker 1: would say, I am a man. Do you guys know
55:44
Speaker 1: what the best revenge would be him getting this huge
55:48
Speaker 1: modeling gig. You know, like she should be on the
55:50
Speaker 1: cover of you to now and do you really really
55:53
Speaker 1: show her? I agree? Actually, I think that's awesome. What
55:58
Speaker 1: if he had like and what if the cover was uh,
56:01
Speaker 1: what if the cover of the g Q was like, uh,
56:06
Speaker 1: breaking but not broken? Oh? I like the good that's
56:12
Speaker 1: a Zola and our cover right there. I love it. Um, David,
56:17
Speaker 1: you're the best. We're happy to hear you and Jordan
56:20
Speaker 1: your friends again. Um. We're also happy to hear it's
56:24
Speaker 1: life good for you? How school? Everything's good? Everything's great,
56:28
Speaker 1: ut and learning a lot and uh having fun down
56:33
Speaker 1: here everything. David, be a good boy, Okay, don't be
56:36
Speaker 1: going to get yourself into some trouble. I can't promise that,
56:40
Speaker 1: but um, you guys are always going whenever you want
56:44
Speaker 1: to come visit. Sounds good, buddy, Hey, thanks for coming on.
56:48
Speaker 1: All right, good to talk to you guys. Okay, all right,
56:53
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys. You know what we We still
56:56
Speaker 1: didn't cover one breaking news story. It's one that our
57:01
Speaker 1: whole family talked about on the cruise the day had happened.
57:04
Speaker 1: Our parents were like, did you hear about Amanda? Did
57:06
Speaker 1: you hear about Amanda? Everybody was asking Jared and I
57:08
Speaker 1: have we heard about Amanda and Amanda's arrest in Las
57:13
Speaker 1: Vegas last weekend. It's a very unfortunate situation, something you
57:16
Speaker 1: definitely want to don't want to hear. Um happened to
57:20
Speaker 1: a friend. But you know why, it seems to be
57:24
Speaker 1: a bigger headline than the real story behind it is.
57:29
Speaker 1: It seems like it really wasn't that big of a deal.
57:32
Speaker 1: It may have been a little push. I really want
57:37
Speaker 1: to get into, you know, the police details of it,
57:40
Speaker 1: all the security details. But we do have a statement
57:43
Speaker 1: from Amanda m So we'll read through that. But first, Ben,
57:46
Speaker 1: do you have any thoughts on Amanda's arrest. Yeah. I mean,
57:51
Speaker 1: anytime there's a mug shot, it becomes a story that's
57:53
Speaker 1: that's just not good for anybody. Nobody wants a mug
57:56
Speaker 1: shot go to bad that. This is not a good look.
57:59
Speaker 1: I've never seen name bugshot other than that one dude
58:01
Speaker 1: who like became viral with his mug shot. There is
58:05
Speaker 1: a good beauty but beautyful man. Yeah, the beautiful man. So, UM,
58:10
Speaker 1: here's the one thing I'll take away from this. Amanda
58:12
Speaker 1: is a friend. I don't know the details of this.
58:14
Speaker 1: I can't speak on the details of this. I literally
58:16
Speaker 1: have done no research. I know uh that that there
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Speaker 1: is a group of people there. I know some people
58:20
Speaker 1: from The Bachelor were also with her. Um. I have
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Speaker 1: literally dug in and I have not dug it at
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Speaker 1: all on this, and I feel weird even talking about it.
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Speaker 1: We will read your statement. But here's the one thing
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Speaker 1: will take away, and I'm sure a man it would
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Speaker 1: say the same thing. It's just not good to push
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Speaker 1: anybody anyways, especially you know your partner. Um. And so
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Speaker 1: that's one lesson learned here. Um. You know, if all
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Speaker 1: else uh is is still up to investigation. We do
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Speaker 1: know Amanda did push Bobby hard soft whatever? We don't know,
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Speaker 1: but it's just probably not the right decision. It's not
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Speaker 1: a good thing. It's not And as you're you're right. Um,
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Speaker 1: the thing is the story may be small, but the
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Speaker 1: mug shot will last forever. And that's the practic farm
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Speaker 1: about it. It really is. Yeah, So I mean with
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Speaker 1: with that, that's a good lesson learned. Don't shove your partner,
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Speaker 1: don't shove anybody. It's gonna get you into trouble. It's
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Speaker 1: not a good look. And so that's the takeaway I
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Speaker 1: can take from reading the headlines and reading the statement. Um, actually,
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Speaker 1: because you sound more like Amanda than I do you
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Speaker 1: want to read the statement? Sure, yeah, I think it's
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Speaker 1: an Amanda's publicist. But here we go. Amanda is embarrassed
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Speaker 1: and a shame this happened and sincerely apologizes to hotel
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Speaker 1: security and the Las Vegas Police Department. Amanda is a gentle,
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Speaker 1: respectful person who has never gotten physical with anyone under
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Speaker 1: any circumstance. That evening, she had a few drinks at
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Speaker 1: a bachelorette party, and when the hotel security asked her
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Speaker 1: and Bobby, her boyfriend, to quiet down, she got a
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Speaker 1: bit ramsunctious, Amanda gave Bobby what she thought was a
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Speaker 1: playful shoved. Hotel security did their job and reported the
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Speaker 1: incident to police, who interns in their jobs. Despite Bobby
1:00:03
Speaker 1: explaining that this was not an ill intended shove, the
1:00:07
Speaker 1: police still had to do their job, which Amanda completely
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Speaker 1: respect and understand. And I I think that's a lovely sament. Yeah,
1:00:17
Speaker 1: good job. I mean, I don't know, we'll see how
1:00:19
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1:00:22
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