Latest / Bussin' With The Boys / Dale Earnhardt Jr.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The boys. Yo, it's the boy Zach the intern. It's
- 0:05Speaker 1: not Will.
- 0:05Speaker 2: He's taking the day off and has given me the
- 0:08Speaker 2: extreme pleasure in introducing today's guests. Let me just go
- 0:13Speaker 2: ahead and tell you today's guest is one of the
- 0:16Speaker 2: most anticipated ones since we've started this podcast. The boy
- 0:21Speaker 2: Dale Earnhardt Jr. Said down with us today and had
- 0:23Speaker 2: a awesome conversation. We talked a lot about Redskins football,
- 0:28Speaker 2: football in general. Then we dive deep into his plane
- 0:32Speaker 2: crash they had back last year and kind of how
- 0:34Speaker 2: his outlook on life has changed and how that event
- 0:39Speaker 2: changed his life. Then me, being his biggest fan, I
- 0:44Speaker 2: get to ask him some of the questions that I've
- 0:45Speaker 2: always wanted to ask him and it's just really cool
- 0:49Speaker 2: moment for me. So, without further ado, here's NASCAR's most
- 0:54Speaker 2: popular driver and my personal hero, Delle Earnhardt Jr.
- 0:59Speaker 3: I'm on, baby, do you this morning? Mam is pregnant,
- 1:01Speaker 3: not feeling too hot and Dale, what's up?
- 1:04Speaker 4: Man?
- 1:05Speaker 5: Sounds like my house?
- 1:06Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 1:07Speaker 4: They're pregnant too.
- 1:08Speaker 3: How far all stressed well? Tailings due July sixteen, So
- 1:13Speaker 3: we're right around the corner right now. And this whole
- 1:16Speaker 3: this whole craziness going on. I don't even know if
- 1:17Speaker 3: I'll be able to do in the labor room or
- 1:18Speaker 3: anything like that. What does your wife do?
- 1:21Speaker 5: They're doing October.
- 1:22Speaker 4: But I've.
- 1:24Speaker 5: I've read a lot about some of the challenges that
- 1:26Speaker 5: women they are pregnant are facing. Man, they're you know,
- 1:29Speaker 5: the father's not able to be in there sometimes, and
- 1:31Speaker 5: they're even not even having the same doctor they've been
- 1:34Speaker 5: working with, and it's just crazy.
- 1:35Speaker 4: It sucks.
- 1:36Speaker 5: I can't imagine.
- 1:36Speaker 3: That's go ahead.
- 1:39Speaker 5: Sorry, I was just gonna say, it's just super stressful
- 1:41Speaker 5: for us to imagine for the wife, it's got to
- 1:44Speaker 5: be over the.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Top, no doubt. It's definitely what you feel super helpless
- 1:48Speaker 3: sometimes is you're not like you're just like, hey, I like,
- 1:51Speaker 3: I know you don't feel good, but you haven't felt
- 1:53Speaker 3: it in the wild, Like what can I What can
- 1:54Speaker 3: I do? And it's like a lot of times you
- 1:56Speaker 3: can't really do anything about it. And my daughter, my
- 1:58Speaker 3: daughter's going through a phase or she's two and a
- 2:00Speaker 3: half and she's going through a phase of like trying
- 2:02Speaker 3: to figure out boundaries. Yeah, so she's trying to make
- 2:05Speaker 3: her decisions all time, and for some reason, she's made
- 2:07Speaker 3: a decision that she's not a fan of Dad right now,
- 2:10Speaker 3: and so like we're in this tuggle war battle, like
- 2:13Speaker 3: she's always wants mama right now, and Mama's like kind
- 2:15Speaker 3: of doing like turn nert like nest and do her thing.
- 2:18Speaker 3: So this morning I've been running up down the stairs
- 2:20Speaker 3: trying to wrangler and all that. So that two and
- 2:23Speaker 3: a half, she's about to be three in.
- 2:24Speaker 5: July, and I got two months. She'd been two in
- 2:28Speaker 5: April thirtieth.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and she's thirty right away.
- 2:33Speaker 5: Yeah, she's pretty me and her pretty tight right now.
- 2:35Speaker 5: I hoping that hoping that's pretty, that stays consistent.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Well are you guys, Oh, go ahead, we'll say.
- 2:43Speaker 6: I was gonna say, are your guys well just kidding,
- 2:47Speaker 6: I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask, since you
- 2:49Speaker 6: guys are both pregnant, are like the appointment you guys
- 2:51Speaker 6: are having now?
- 2:52Speaker 4: Like I don't know anything about that.
- 2:53Speaker 6: You don't have the kind of you don't have to do,
- 2:55Speaker 6: are you guys get on the phone and they kind
- 2:57Speaker 6: of tell you.
- 2:57Speaker 5: Hey, we can mean yeah, all the central stuff for
- 3:02Speaker 5: not you know, for for every for our for our safety,
- 3:05Speaker 5: for their safety, you know, they just said it's not critical,
- 3:08Speaker 5: don't come in.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Our r O B G y N was basically like,
- 3:12Speaker 3: if you unless it's emergency, pretty much don't don't contact
- 3:15Speaker 3: me or don't come in, ye right, And so it's
- 3:18Speaker 3: I mean, you know how this is too when we're like,
- 3:21Speaker 3: you're pregnant. That I hate when people say you guys
- 3:23Speaker 3: are right now you and I are. We we did
- 3:25Speaker 3: the we did the fun part and now it's they
- 3:27Speaker 3: got the hard part right. But it's one of those
- 3:30Speaker 3: things that's like, you know, everything feels different and weird,
- 3:34Speaker 3: and their body is growing and morphing all the time.
- 3:36Speaker 3: It's just like can't feel comfortable. And if it was
- 3:39Speaker 3: if it was us, like men had to get pregnant,
- 3:42Speaker 3: we we go. You couldn't even talk to me if
- 3:47Speaker 3: I get sick, it's game, he can't and you can't
- 3:51Speaker 3: talk to me at all about nothing.
- 3:52Speaker 5: So I will say selfishly, right when this all went
- 3:59Speaker 5: down and they tell us that our visits were all canceled,
- 4:02Speaker 5: we were two weeks from going to get blood tests
- 4:04Speaker 5: to make sure everything's okay, plus find out sex, and
- 4:07Speaker 5: we haven't done that. So that's been driving me crazy
- 4:10Speaker 5: because we wanted to find out. We wanted to know.
- 4:14Speaker 5: It's freaking me out. I want to know, you know, more.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Than more than anything of like finding out the sex.
- 4:19Speaker 3: It's like that blood test. If you know everything's kind
- 4:21Speaker 3: of progressing our way, that's a big load off your
- 4:23Speaker 3: shoulders for sure. Just I was big on wanting a
- 4:28Speaker 3: little a little boy, because I don't know, you know
- 4:31Speaker 3: you yere, I had a brother. You know, you just
- 4:34Speaker 3: use you as.
- 4:35Speaker 5: You know your dude.
- 4:36Speaker 4: You want a little you.
- 4:37Speaker 3: I know, I want to you stereotically, just want to
- 4:40Speaker 3: throw the ball around with my buddy, not saying can't.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Any person that watches this podcast, I know when't get
- 4:45Speaker 3: bill balls too, Like I dated a softball player in college,
- 4:49Speaker 3: but like, uh, I don't know, man, Like it was
- 4:52Speaker 3: just it was something I really wanted. And then, you know,
- 4:54Speaker 3: one day I was like totally cool that. I was like,
- 4:56Speaker 3: you know what, actually I'd be totally fine with another girl.
- 4:58Speaker 3: And then we found out the sex. We weren't to
- 5:00Speaker 3: find it out, and I'm having another girl. So I'm
- 5:02Speaker 3: also that I'm like Kobe out here, man, Yeah, pretty.
- 5:05Speaker 5: I'll be okay with another girl too, I am. I was, Yeah,
- 5:09Speaker 5: I was so much fun and Amy's amazing, So just
- 5:12Speaker 5: having more versions of them on the on the property
- 5:16Speaker 5: to be awesome, no doubt, I really, you know either way,
- 5:22Speaker 5: I don't have any feelings about it yet. I'm sure uh,
- 5:26Speaker 5: once we find out, and if it is a boy,
- 5:28Speaker 5: I'll have all these thoughts and things that I never
- 5:30Speaker 5: even expected.
- 5:31Speaker 4: So if if you do, will be the third No.
- 5:35Speaker 5: No, no, no no. We already have a name now. We
- 5:37Speaker 5: got a name. The name Yeah, So we had a
- 5:41Speaker 5: name for a boy before I was born a couple
- 5:43Speaker 5: of years ago, and it's such a cool name. And
- 5:46Speaker 5: I was like, well, if we have a boy any
- 5:47Speaker 5: other you know, that's the name. So I like it.
- 5:50Speaker 5: I will keep it a secret. But girl names are tough,
- 5:54Speaker 5: man be couldn't The girl name took forever to figure
- 5:58Speaker 5: out girl.
- 5:59Speaker 3: The girl name was it are and came a lot
- 6:00Speaker 3: easier than the boy names because I don't know. I
- 6:04Speaker 3: got a buddy who's got the coolest name for a son.
- 6:06Speaker 3: You can steal it if you want because you don't
- 6:07Speaker 3: know him, but I can't steal it, and I want
- 6:09Speaker 3: it real bad. His name was Stetson, and I thought,
- 6:12Speaker 3: I was like, that name is badass man. That is
- 6:14Speaker 3: a great that's it's awesome. Yeah, if we were gonna
- 6:19Speaker 3: have a boy, I want to name it Whalen and
- 6:21Speaker 3: then yeah after whaling Jennings. Yes that yeah, dude, that's that.
- 6:28Speaker 3: I think those old country names are awesome. They're strong,
- 6:31Speaker 3: they're powerful. They set the tone. Yeah, you're setting you're
- 6:36Speaker 3: sitting in the tone with that background. Man, you got
- 6:37Speaker 3: the help basically one step above the leather helmet on
- 6:40Speaker 3: the redskins right there, and then you know who's held it's.
- 6:44Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty five day. But oh really check this. So
- 6:50Speaker 5: are we recording to podcasting?
- 6:53Speaker 6: Oh, you're bustling with the boys.
- 6:54Speaker 4: That's well.
- 6:58Speaker 5: I don't want to run them run. I want to
- 7:00Speaker 5: save it for the podcast. But I went to I
- 7:04Speaker 5: had an appearance for a racetrack. So Talladego Mo Speedway
- 7:09Speaker 5: sent me over to the College Football Hall of Fame
- 7:11Speaker 5: and so I went over to that building, huge building.
- 7:13Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys have been there, and I collicked
- 7:15Speaker 5: helmets and I have probably I don't know about eighty
- 7:19Speaker 5: to one hundred helmets different college teams and probably about
- 7:23Speaker 5: a third of the NFL. And I was at this
- 7:28Speaker 5: appearance walking around in this college Football Hall of Fame,
- 7:32Speaker 5: really cool place, and they got this huge rack of
- 7:35Speaker 5: helmets on the wall, and they surprised me with having
- 7:41Speaker 5: Dave Butts come in and he I knew it immediately
- 7:46Speaker 5: when I saw him. And he comes walking up and
- 7:47Speaker 5: he's got this helmet in his hand and I look
- 7:49Speaker 5: at it and I'm like, I wonder, why the hell
- 7:51Speaker 5: is he carrying a helmet around and it's beat the
- 7:53Speaker 5: hell and I was like, that's a real helmet. And
- 7:57Speaker 5: he walks up to me and he handed it to me.
- 7:59Speaker 5: He's like, here, once you have this, and I was like, oh, man,
- 8:03Speaker 5: you got kids. Certainly your boys or somebody in your
- 8:06Speaker 5: family wants this. And he's like, ah, they don't. They
- 8:08Speaker 5: probably won't appreciate as much as you. I said, well,
- 8:10Speaker 5: listen here, I'm gonna keep this saying and if you
- 8:12Speaker 5: ever wanted you telling boys there, you know, they can
- 8:14Speaker 5: have it right back. I'll get right back to them,
- 8:16Speaker 5: but I'll be the keeper for a while. So, uh,
- 8:19Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of game warn or game
- 8:20Speaker 5: use stuff, particularly from you know, the eighties or seventies,
- 8:23Speaker 5: some of that historical stuff. So Dave was a great
- 8:26Speaker 5: lineman for the Redskins on the Hogs. Hogs offensive line
- 8:29Speaker 5: is what they called it. And yeah, yeah, so I
- 8:33Speaker 5: was a big I was really appreciative that he did
- 8:36Speaker 5: that and got some Elvis Presley stuff over my shoulder.
- 8:39Speaker 5: My mama was a huge Elvis fan, and I was
- 8:42Speaker 5: a little boy. She would keep me on the weekends.
- 8:44Speaker 5: Dad would go racing and I'd stay at mama's house
- 8:46Speaker 5: and she had Elvis playing all the time in her
- 8:48Speaker 5: house all the time, just twenty four to seven Elvis
- 8:51Speaker 5: singing long. So I know, being an Elvis fan over
- 8:53Speaker 5: that what made Yeah. Well, so when I was little,
- 9:01Speaker 5: I guess around nineteen eighty two. The first game I
- 9:04Speaker 5: really remember watching was the Redskins against the Miami Dolphins
- 9:08Speaker 5: and Super Bowl. And my mom and dad divorced in
- 9:13Speaker 5: seventy eight and she moved to Norfolk, Virginia, Chesapeake Bay.
- 9:16Speaker 5: Nothing but Redskins fans up there. So when I go
- 9:19Speaker 5: visit her, everything was Redskins. If you went into the store,
- 9:23Speaker 5: all the sports stuff was Redskins decals, whatever. In the
- 9:27Speaker 5: convenience store, everything was Redskins logos, and so she would
- 9:32Speaker 5: buy me helmets and uniforms. I still have, like these
- 9:35Speaker 5: jerseys and these old tiny little helmets with the plastic
- 9:38Speaker 5: guard on them from when I was like twelve years
- 9:40Speaker 5: old getting these guests for Christmas. And we didn't have
- 9:44Speaker 5: a team in Charlotte, we didn't have a team in
- 9:45Speaker 5: North Carolina. It was basically we had a lot of
- 9:47Speaker 5: in North Carolina back then in the eighties.
- 9:50Speaker 4: We had a lot of.
- 9:50Speaker 5: Falcons fans, Redskins fans, and there were Cowboys fans all
- 9:54Speaker 5: across the country, and so it was kind of mixed bag.
- 9:59Speaker 5: But when the Panthers came at that point, I was
- 10:01Speaker 5: so invested. We'd won Super Bowls, Joe Gibbs, all that
- 10:05Speaker 5: good stuff was happening, and I just couldn't change, man.
- 10:10Speaker 5: And I'm still as die hard today, I guess as
- 10:13Speaker 5: I was any point, even after everything we've been through
- 10:16Speaker 5: over the last couple of decades been real hard. But
- 10:19Speaker 5: when you're in, you're in.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Man.
- 10:21Speaker 5: I can't imagine undoing all that investment, emotional, personal investment,
- 10:26Speaker 5: and trying to pour it back into something else I
- 10:29Speaker 5: really want. You know, people always ask me about the
- 10:31Speaker 5: Panthers and whether I pull for them, and I do,
- 10:34Speaker 5: and because the you know, a successful sports team in Charlotte.
- 10:39Speaker 5: I live thirty minutes from downtown, and a successful sports
- 10:43Speaker 5: team in that area, man is great for everybody, great
- 10:45Speaker 5: for business, great for everything, And so I want them
- 10:48Speaker 5: to win a lot. If Sins can't win, I want
- 10:50Speaker 5: the Panthers to win, it'll.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Be the Titans. So you can't can't be mad about that.
- 10:58Speaker 3: I was actually very upset.
- 11:00Speaker 5: M Yeah, we we we It's been frustrating, but you know,
- 11:05Speaker 5: we got a new coach. Ron's coming in. You know,
- 11:10Speaker 5: I always say that every off seasons a reason for
- 11:14Speaker 5: new hope, right, And when you're a Redskins fan or
- 11:18Speaker 5: or a fan of a team that's been notoriously kind
- 11:21Speaker 5: of struggling to put it together, every year is like
- 11:25Speaker 5: a time to wipe the slate clean emotionally and personally
- 11:29Speaker 5: and and and start new. And I love to. I
- 11:33Speaker 5: mean every day I'm checking my phone for any piece
- 11:36Speaker 5: of news. I can't get enough. I can't soak up
- 11:39Speaker 5: enough information, just opinion articles, whatever it is about who
- 11:43Speaker 5: we're what we're going to do in the draft, or
- 11:46Speaker 5: how things are going with training camp, what the positional
- 11:48Speaker 5: battles are and all that stuff. So year round, you're
- 11:51Speaker 5: you're a fan, right, and trying to find positivity and
- 11:55Speaker 5: and and hope and anything you're reading about the team
- 11:58Speaker 5: and the changes they're making.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Uh.
- 12:01Speaker 5: Jay Gruden was a great coach, a lot of fun.
- 12:03Speaker 5: I enjoyed him as our coach. But yeah, I mean,
- 12:07Speaker 5: after a certain period of time, when you're sort of
- 12:09Speaker 5: having the same results, maybe it's time to for everybody
- 12:12Speaker 5: to do something different. And so I feel like, if anything,
- 12:15Speaker 5: maybe he was just as relieved as we were to
- 12:18Speaker 5: be making a change to try something else. And Ron
- 12:22Speaker 5: seems to be so respected by the people that he coaches,
- 12:26Speaker 5: and uh, kind of a tough, defensive guy. You know,
- 12:28Speaker 5: we need somebody to come into the organization, and all
- 12:32Speaker 5: organizations needed. I believe in ruling with iron fist. You know,
- 12:36Speaker 5: when we talk about NASCAR and rules and rule breakers
- 12:39Speaker 5: and cheaters. You know, nothing wrong with cheating, getting creative,
- 12:43Speaker 5: but if you get caught, I want you busted hard.
- 12:46Speaker 5: I mean I want you, I want I want the
- 12:47Speaker 5: sport to come down on you hard man, you know,
- 12:50Speaker 5: and set an example. It's more about the perception, you know,
- 12:53Speaker 5: putting that perception out there that we run this show,
- 12:56Speaker 5: you know, and.
- 12:58Speaker 4: You can see you can say shit on here.
- 12:59Speaker 5: Bro Yeah, that's what we need. Run this ship man,
- 13:03Speaker 5: So we need our coach to be tough, and he's tough.
- 13:09Speaker 5: Run I don't think takes any ship off anybody. So
- 13:12Speaker 5: we'll see how it goes.
- 13:13Speaker 3: You followed all the all the draft stuff right now.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Obviously us picked number two. You're seeing Chase Young, You're
- 13:18Speaker 3: seeing Chase Young everywhere? Yeah, were you excited about that?
- 13:22Speaker 5: You know? I am? You know, and uh, you know
- 13:25Speaker 5: we picked We've picked it too before and uh with
- 13:29Speaker 5: with Robert Griffin and and uh all that was, uh,
- 13:33Speaker 5: you know, going so well that first year things were awesome,
- 13:37Speaker 5: team looked amazing and and and then things kind of
- 13:39Speaker 5: went south. But you know, so we've been here before.
- 13:44Speaker 5: We've we've we've been at number two before with opportunity
- 13:47Speaker 5: and and and uh, I think all the Redskins fans
- 13:51Speaker 5: out there are kind of tempering their expectations. Of course.
- 13:54Speaker 5: I think if we draft Chase we're gonna be happy.
- 13:56Speaker 5: We'll just see how kind of what kind of player
- 13:58Speaker 5: he becomes in the NFL. The rumors about maybe you know,
- 14:03Speaker 5: the Interesting Tour or anybody else for that matter, obviously
- 14:08Speaker 5: sound and look like smoking mirrors. But you know, and
- 14:12Speaker 5: I like our quarterback that we have now. But I
- 14:15Speaker 5: think toa is, you know, if he's healthy, if the
- 14:19Speaker 5: hip is good, and if he can go out there,
- 14:20Speaker 5: I think he you know, he's gonna be a great quarterback.
- 14:22Speaker 5: And so you can't pass on great quarterbacks, right, you
- 14:25Speaker 5: can't give up the opportunity to draft a great quarterback.
- 14:27Speaker 5: And so I don't know if I have a problem
- 14:29Speaker 5: with whatever they do. If they trade back, I'm open
- 14:31Speaker 5: to it. I feel like we got all new guys
- 14:34Speaker 5: in there running the ship. You got the front office changed,
- 14:38Speaker 5: you got the coaching staff change. So I think I
- 14:42Speaker 5: I think if we had the same people in the
- 14:43Speaker 5: same positions as we did last year and the years
- 14:46Speaker 5: before and they traded back, I'd be disappointed. But now
- 14:49Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, hey, maybe these guys know what
- 14:50Speaker 5: they're doing.
- 14:52Speaker 3: Well. There's a lot of depth in the draft too,
- 14:54Speaker 3: especially like receivers super heavy in the draft. Off of
- 14:57Speaker 3: the tackle super heavy in the draft. Because I'm like,
- 15:00Speaker 3: obviously playing in the NFL is one thing, but like
- 15:02Speaker 3: once you have your team and you kind of like
- 15:04Speaker 3: you've been playing on it for a little bit, you
- 15:05Speaker 3: always like that the free agency in the draft, like
- 15:08Speaker 3: it's it's it is an exciting time of the year.
- 15:09Speaker 3: It's like a new transition. Like you said, it's like
- 15:12Speaker 3: new hopes or like for me, I'm looking at all
- 15:14Speaker 3: these boards and seeing what what the drafts strong and
- 15:16Speaker 3: all that, And I've seen a couple of things saying
- 15:19Speaker 3: that Chase Young might go one. Overall, he's that, he's
- 15:22Speaker 3: that talented all that. So if Chase goes one, were
- 15:26Speaker 3: you thinking Joe Burrow? Are thinking tua?
- 15:27Speaker 4: If you had I mean that's true, you're saying tua.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Yeah, you're saying you saying a lot of tua. But
- 15:34Speaker 3: there's that chance you only want.
- 15:35Speaker 5: To pick away from Burrow, right, I think you would
- 15:37Speaker 5: take him? You know which one?
- 15:39Speaker 4: Which one you take?
- 15:42Speaker 3: Joe?
- 15:42Speaker 5: Yeah, because of the health strictly, because you know the
- 15:46Speaker 5: health concerns with two of there's just so many questions
- 15:48Speaker 5: marks Unfortunately, you know, consider you know how everybody's locked down.
- 15:54Speaker 5: Nobody can see anybody. We can't really you know, nobody
- 15:56Speaker 5: can move around because of the virus stuff that we're
- 15:59Speaker 5: you know, coaches and evaluators aren't able to really get
- 16:02Speaker 5: their eyes on these players and sit down and spend
- 16:04Speaker 5: time with them. That's that's hurting I think to at
- 16:07Speaker 5: this particular point because he once prove to everybody that
- 16:10Speaker 5: he's helped him ready to rock. But Joe, I like
- 16:13Speaker 5: Joe a lot. But what do you guys think about
- 16:14Speaker 5: his personality? So you know, he's he's a brash guy,
- 16:18Speaker 5: ain't afraid to lay it out there, be himself. How
- 16:21Speaker 5: do you feel that guy that that's awesome in college
- 16:25Speaker 5: in a in a college atmosphere. How do you think
- 16:27Speaker 5: that transitions over to the NFL if you're drafting, if
- 16:30Speaker 5: you're a personnel guy, or you're a coach and you're
- 16:32Speaker 5: drafting him, do you just let the guy run and
- 16:35Speaker 5: do his thing? Do you kind of rain him in
- 16:37Speaker 5: a little bit, tell him how to maybe add a
- 16:38Speaker 5: little professionalism, a little polished to what he's doing.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Well, you got to take this one. I'll go after you.
- 16:44Speaker 4: Now.
- 16:44Speaker 6: Are you saying it from a way that he's like
- 16:46Speaker 6: edgy out there outside of play?
- 16:48Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of like a gamic man kind of guy.
- 16:50Speaker 5: You know, he kind of reminds me of that in
- 16:52Speaker 5: his personality a little bit.
- 16:53Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, in my opinion, I don't think you
- 16:56Speaker 6: should ever, you shouldn't micro manage him. So you got
- 16:59Speaker 6: to let him himself and let him lead with his
- 17:01Speaker 6: personality and stuff. But if there's some things that you
- 17:03Speaker 6: have questions about off the field, like yeah, you just
- 17:06Speaker 6: have some guys around him, or you just mentor him
- 17:08Speaker 6: along the way, but you gotta let him be himself
- 17:10Speaker 6: because you want to be as comfortables possible the moment
- 17:12Speaker 6: he steps in the door, you know what I'm saying.
- 17:14Speaker 6: And then say he stepped into the Tips facility like Taylor,
- 17:18Speaker 6: like all the boys and the leaders and stuff would
- 17:19Speaker 6: be around him that he would be himself.
- 17:21Speaker 4: But I know Raves and those guys everybody would kind
- 17:24Speaker 4: of ads some that.
- 17:25Speaker 6: Professionalism that you're talking about, But you definitely don't want
- 17:27Speaker 6: to try and change to him because that kind of
- 17:30Speaker 6: makes him who he is.
- 17:30Speaker 4: He kind of has that swag about himself, that confidence
- 17:33Speaker 4: that he plays with. But that would be That's what
- 17:35Speaker 4: I would do if I was a coach.
- 17:39Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 17:39Speaker 3: For there's a lot of the times like being professional
- 17:42Speaker 3: is a good thing. I myself, Dale, I am not
- 17:44Speaker 3: a professional person professional approach right in a lot of ways.
- 17:49Speaker 3: But I do think like being you is what got
- 17:52Speaker 3: you into the position you were. They're just like you
- 17:54Speaker 3: for racing just like me for football, well for football,
- 17:57Speaker 3: like those are those are things that like being ours,
- 17:59Speaker 3: like you got yourself And just for me, speaking from
- 18:02Speaker 3: personal experience, when I was at Michigan my senior year.
- 18:05Speaker 3: When I was at Michigan, they told me, hey, you
- 18:08Speaker 3: need to be literally use the words of vanilla. You
- 18:10Speaker 3: have to be mister like all American, clean cut, like
- 18:14Speaker 3: you know, business guy the whole time. And I was
- 18:16Speaker 3: I was drinking the kool aid like no one's business.
- 18:18Speaker 3: I was drunk on Michigan. So I was like, absolutely,
- 18:20Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent in it. And so I did it,
- 18:23Speaker 3: and really along the way, like lost myself. I really
- 18:26Speaker 3: wasn't like the same person. If anything, my ego got bigger.
- 18:30Speaker 3: I thought I was better than I was. I thought
- 18:32Speaker 3: I was bigger than I was my last year, and
- 18:34Speaker 3: it kind of ruined that senior year for me that
- 18:36Speaker 3: could have been way more special than it actually was.
- 18:38Speaker 3: And then I come to the Titans and the kind
- 18:42Speaker 3: of similar thing happened to me my second year. I
- 18:44Speaker 3: was stolen into a leadership role right away, and they
- 18:47Speaker 3: were telling me how to act and be myself, and
- 18:49Speaker 3: my career was someone on the rocks. They were talking
- 18:51Speaker 3: about replacing me in the draft with Lanry Tunsel, which
- 18:55Speaker 3: they've got he's got extraordinary lungs and had that video
- 18:58Speaker 3: go on the draft because all worked out for me
- 19:00Speaker 3: in that way. But I mean after that, after that,
- 19:04Speaker 3: my second year, I realized, like, you you got to
- 19:06Speaker 3: be yourself and people can tigure to leave it. But
- 19:09Speaker 3: if you're a hundred percent yourself, you cannot be mad
- 19:11Speaker 3: with the result that you get. You know, and there's
- 19:14Speaker 3: but there's a level like you can't just be off
- 19:15Speaker 3: the rail. You can't be Joe exotic. I don't know
- 19:17Speaker 3: if you've watched that documentary that things why you can't.
- 19:20Speaker 3: You can't be Joe exotic, but you can. You can
- 19:22Speaker 3: have your flair, you can have your things that make
- 19:24Speaker 3: you you, and then still be a team player, be
- 19:27Speaker 3: the guy that can come in and because I kind
- 19:29Speaker 3: of like a quarterback that's like, for lack of a
- 19:32Speaker 3: better word, doesn't give a shit, like I'm gonna sling
- 19:34Speaker 3: this thing, I'm gonna throw in there. Brett Farbas that way.
- 19:37Speaker 3: Jake Cutler, you know you always picture him with a
- 19:39Speaker 3: cigarette hanging out of his nuse. He doesn't give a shit.
- 19:42Speaker 3: And uh, one of my friends. I used to be
- 19:44Speaker 3: super close with Zach Mettenberger. He was the same way
- 19:46Speaker 3: he came in. We were playing the Patriots. Marcus Mariota
- 19:50Speaker 3: got hurt. We were playing the Patriots, like week eleven
- 19:52Speaker 3: my second year or two and fourteen was three and
- 19:56Speaker 3: thirteen year. We actually got better than the year before,
- 19:58Speaker 3: and we're gonna pick at one, but we were playing
- 20:00Speaker 3: the Patriots. Get absolutely donkey, not even a chance, and
- 20:04Speaker 3: Marcus gets hurt, just salting the wound, and I'm kind
- 20:08Speaker 3: of like leaning down in the huddle, and someone comes
- 20:11Speaker 3: in and I started, I'm starting the smell, and I started,
- 20:14Speaker 3: I start smelling like Skull winter Green or like Copenhagen
- 20:17Speaker 3: the winter Green. I'm like, I know that, I know
- 20:19Speaker 3: that smell. And I look up and I'm not joking.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Zach had the same face mask as the one behind you.
- 20:26Speaker 3: He had the bar down the middle, he had the
- 20:29Speaker 3: one strap across the top, and he had a fat lip.
- 20:31Speaker 3: I swear to god it was that far outside of
- 20:33Speaker 3: his lips. And first play throws to Delaney Walker. Delaney
- 20:39Speaker 3: is running across the middle, stiff arm's a guy hurdles
- 20:42Speaker 3: a guy like just absolutely barrowing through the entire Patriots
- 20:45Speaker 3: defense and scored. Still lost by twenty one points, but
- 20:48Speaker 3: damn it, I will remember that forever. It was one
- 20:50Speaker 3: of the coolest ding things I've ever seen in my
- 20:52Speaker 3: entire life. And he just did He just didn't give
- 20:54Speaker 3: a shit. I mean, obviously his career is not where
- 20:56Speaker 3: he wants it to be in all that, but like,
- 20:57Speaker 3: at the same time, you gotta love the situations like that,
- 21:06Speaker 3: guys in the locker room going to like, man, you
- 21:08Speaker 3: see that, that's pretty cool, and he you know, and
- 21:11Speaker 3: and you kind of respect those types of things. You
- 21:13Speaker 3: still got to perform and do all that stuff. But
- 21:15Speaker 3: Joe's got I think he has the talent. I'm not
- 21:17Speaker 3: a quarterback guru.
- 21:17Speaker 4: I don't know about Yeah.
- 21:19Speaker 6: Yeah, well what would you if you're if you're the
- 21:20Speaker 6: head coach, what would you want to do?
- 21:22Speaker 5: Now, well, there's you know, as a broadcaster in in
- 21:28Speaker 5: in racing, I love our guys to be, you know,
- 21:32Speaker 5: really colorful and and we got to have the villains,
- 21:34Speaker 5: we got to have the heroes, We got to have
- 21:37Speaker 5: all the players and all the personalities in the in
- 21:40Speaker 5: the I guess controversial guys even kind of have a
- 21:43Speaker 5: place to bring awareness and interest to our sports get
- 21:47Speaker 5: people watch. So I kind of want that, and I
- 21:49Speaker 5: like players that are that way. I certainly wasn't, you know,
- 21:53Speaker 5: a fan of vanilla players throughout the Riskins histories. I
- 21:56Speaker 5: like John Riggins. I liked him because of the way
- 21:59Speaker 5: he was as a person and how he he didn't
- 22:01Speaker 5: give a damn either when he was you know, you know,
- 22:04Speaker 5: when he was playing. He kind of did his own thing.
- 22:06Speaker 5: But I also like guys like Daryl Green and Arn't
- 22:09Speaker 5: Monk that were role models and and just workming like
- 22:12Speaker 5: and you can depend on them. Art was Art was
- 22:15Speaker 5: going to run the pattern, he was going to catch
- 22:16Speaker 5: the ball, He's gonna get a first down. And yeah,
- 22:20Speaker 5: Ryan Carriden is another great guy. Uh that that's a
- 22:23Speaker 5: great role model. But I like the bad guys too.
- 22:25Speaker 5: I like the guys that that are that are mouthy.
- 22:27Speaker 5: Dexter Manley was one of my favorite players. He was
- 22:29Speaker 5: pretty rough around the edges, and so as a coach,
- 22:35Speaker 5: I think, you know, you definitely want your guy to
- 22:38Speaker 5: have some personality and bring some you know, bring some
- 22:41Speaker 5: color to the locker room. I imagine, just as long
- 22:44Speaker 5: as you're succeeding on the field, studying and doing all
- 22:47Speaker 5: the job, doing your job right, doing your job and
- 22:49Speaker 5: working hard and understanding everything that that is required your position.
- 22:53Speaker 5: I suppose that you can be whoever you want. And
- 22:57Speaker 5: I think that's why people I mentioned Jimmy Mann. I
- 22:59Speaker 5: think that's why he worked his deal work. He was
- 23:02Speaker 5: out there. He was colorful, but he won, you know,
- 23:06Speaker 5: and he and he played well and he was tough.
- 23:08Speaker 5: You know, he could, he could, he he could play
- 23:11Speaker 5: in some pretty difficult situations.
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- 25:56Speaker 4: Dude, you're a huge football fan. This is like an
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- 26:00Speaker 3: That's what it's kind of what it's become. Our podcast
- 26:02Speaker 3: is low key football.
- 26:03Speaker 6: Well.
- 26:03Speaker 4: I knew he was.
- 26:04Speaker 6: I knew he was a Skins fan, but I ain't
- 26:06Speaker 6: know like the depths right here.
- 26:07Speaker 5: Dude, you're you're a sport I've just been throughout the years.
- 26:13Speaker 3: I had Russ Grim as my offensive line coach.
- 26:16Speaker 5: Wow.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Really he was a Yeah, it was like two years ago.
- 26:19Speaker 3: That guy kept he had a refrigerator in his office
- 26:22Speaker 3: and he had it was full of bud light at
- 26:24Speaker 3: all times and the only time. Dude, he is He
- 26:28Speaker 3: was like the most legendary like guy you would run
- 26:31Speaker 3: through a wall four and some of his stories, I mean,
- 26:34Speaker 3: I can't tell really any of them on a podcast,
- 26:37Speaker 3: but he was. He was an unbelievable guy. He like
- 26:42Speaker 3: fifteen fifteen office line was statistically the one of the
- 26:46Speaker 3: worst in the entire league. And then Mike Malarkey brought
- 26:50Speaker 3: in Russ Grim pretty much the same guys like literally
- 26:54Speaker 3: no one different. I think we drafted Jack Conflin in
- 26:56Speaker 3: the first round that year, eight overall, and statist turned
- 27:00Speaker 3: into the number one off offutilne in the league. And
- 27:03Speaker 3: Russ does not teach technique. He does not teach like
- 27:07Speaker 3: you know, stepping over a bag and waddling up to
- 27:10Speaker 3: a linebacker. What he teaches is camaraderie with the boys.
- 27:13Speaker 3: Like he teaches you to be like you are playing
- 27:16Speaker 3: next to you, find out what you played for visually,
- 27:18Speaker 3: and then play for these guys and you're good. And
- 27:21Speaker 3: I've never been a part of a title whole line
- 27:23Speaker 3: in maybe twenty sixteen, that whole entire group was just
- 27:26Speaker 3: like always together, bandon brothers mentality, like got down and
- 27:31Speaker 3: dirty and I and then pretty much all that had
- 27:33Speaker 3: to do with Russ. So I can't imagine him back
- 27:36Speaker 3: in the day being a hog. All those guys out
- 27:38Speaker 3: there just killing people. I think they're like a turnover
- 27:42Speaker 3: margin plus like five, like it was, it was an
- 27:46Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculous number like that Will like the turnover margin
- 27:49Speaker 3: was insane.
- 27:50Speaker 6: Liked he send you, didn't he send you a photo
- 27:53Speaker 6: of like is don he have like a fake limb or.
- 27:55Speaker 4: Something like that?
- 27:57Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, he ended up losing his leg. He cut
- 28:01Speaker 3: his he cut his foot, uh in the middle of
- 28:04Speaker 3: the year, and he never took care of it ever,
- 28:06Speaker 3: not once. Actually, like they literal would tell him, hey, Russ,
- 28:10Speaker 3: you gotta walk on this treadmill. He'd be like, well,
- 28:11Speaker 3: you know, I walked from here to my car and bag.
- 28:14Speaker 3: That's enough walking for me. And he just he was
- 28:16Speaker 3: this old school guy man couldn't tell him nothing and
- 28:19Speaker 3: ended up having some medical stuff going on when we
- 28:23Speaker 3: were playing the Patriots in divisional round where he couldn't
- 28:26Speaker 3: really stand up or anything and ended up losing his
- 28:29Speaker 3: right leg. But I called him up and true Russ
- 28:33Speaker 3: Grim fashion, I'm like, hey, man, like, how you doing.
- 28:35Speaker 3: You are right? He's like, yeah, you know, it's all
- 28:38Speaker 3: good socks or buy one, get one free. Now I
- 28:40Speaker 3: only have to pay did not literally not a care
- 28:43Speaker 3: in the world. Sent me a picture. He's he's out
- 28:46Speaker 3: at the pool, got his lego bandaged up with some
- 28:49Speaker 3: girl picking up like, you know, picking up a drink
- 28:51Speaker 3: for him and turned butts out there. He's just like
- 28:54Speaker 3: the double thumbs up, you know. And he's just the
- 28:58Speaker 3: man just lives his best life. He is the way
- 29:01Speaker 3: I don't know, like if you had all the money
- 29:04Speaker 3: in the world and didn't care and it was just like,
- 29:06Speaker 3: whatever's gonna happen happened. Then he is. He is an
- 29:09Speaker 3: all time guy. I can't say enough good things about Russ.
- 29:11Speaker 3: He made me a fan of the Hawks.
- 29:12Speaker 5: Him and Clinton Diddier came out to the race in
- 29:14Speaker 5: the mid nineties and I got a picture of me
- 29:16Speaker 5: and them two standing in my dad's race and holler,
- 29:19Speaker 5: that's awesome. Yeah, as soon as you mentioned the name man,
- 29:22Speaker 5: that picture comes to my mind. And I remember the
- 29:26Speaker 5: first time I saw you know, Joe Gibbs became an
- 29:28Speaker 5: owner in our sport, uh and has become extremely successful
- 29:32Speaker 5: championship owner. And I knew that he had owned drag
- 29:36Speaker 5: racing cars and been in motorsports before, and when the
- 29:41Speaker 5: word came that he was going to own a race
- 29:43Speaker 5: team in our sport, you know, I got really excited.
- 29:46Speaker 5: And I remember the first time I saw him at
- 29:50Speaker 5: a racetrack, and uh, I was screaming at him and
- 29:53Speaker 5: hollering at him like like a huge fan, but uh,
- 29:56Speaker 5: which I was, But I you know, I just couldn't.
- 30:00Speaker 5: I was seeing him in person. It was like seeing
- 30:02Speaker 5: you know, your favorite celebrity walking around and there's Joe
- 30:05Speaker 5: Gibbs walking it, walking around at Atlanta Motor Speedway is
- 30:08Speaker 5: after the race, and he's walking down through the pits.
- 30:11Speaker 5: Everybody's kind of cleaning up, picking stuff up and getting
- 30:13Speaker 5: out of there and getting ready to go home. And
- 30:14Speaker 5: there he is. And I was like, Joe Gibbs, Joe Gibbs,
- 30:17Speaker 5: I couldn't Yeah, And now.
- 30:22Speaker 3: I flipped out, man, fan boydal.
- 30:27Speaker 6: Were you that way when I came to the racetrack
- 30:29Speaker 6: and road with you?
- 30:34Speaker 5: It will will man, It's it's been crazy and ever
- 30:39Speaker 5: ever since.
- 30:41Speaker 6: Question, it's different now like Gibbs, Yeah, like back then,
- 30:48Speaker 6: I never even met a player.
- 30:50Speaker 5: You know, I've never even met a player. I've been
- 30:51Speaker 5: watching them guys on TV on the whole life, and
- 30:53Speaker 5: I mean, to meet a player would be insane. And uh,
- 30:57Speaker 5: here's the coach, the guy that leads them. And ever since,
- 31:01Speaker 5: you know, since then, I've been able to to be
- 31:04Speaker 5: around the organization a little bit and spend more time
- 31:07Speaker 5: and getting to know some of the guys. I mean,
- 31:10Speaker 5: I'll tell you one thing, man, I don't this is
- 31:12Speaker 5: I don't mind, I don't care. It's embarrassing, but who cares.
- 31:14Speaker 4: I was the Angelo Hall so oh, d Hall.
- 31:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I was at a game. I don't even know.
- 31:26Speaker 5: I can't remember what game it was. But I was
- 31:27Speaker 5: walking down the hall and the d Backs are all
- 31:32Speaker 5: huddled up doing their thing, right, you know, twenty feet
- 31:35Speaker 5: from the field, getting ready to go out for the game.
- 31:38Speaker 5: And I know I can imagine, like what that moment's like. Uh,
- 31:42Speaker 5: you know, those guys are tuning into each other, They're
- 31:46Speaker 5: getting in their zone. There ain't nothing going on as
- 31:49Speaker 5: far as they know outside that bubble. And I come
- 31:52Speaker 5: walking by and d Angelo Hall looks and goes, what's up, Junior?
- 31:56Speaker 5: And I was like, I can go home now. This
- 31:59Speaker 5: is gonna getting better. I don't care if they went
- 32:01Speaker 5: by a hunter be better than this moment right here.
- 32:05Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean he was a beast and such
- 32:08Speaker 5: a cool guy. But for him to acknowledge me, and
- 32:12Speaker 5: even in that moment when they're really getting ready to
- 32:15Speaker 5: buckle down and and things couldn't be more serious, just
- 32:18Speaker 5: flew me away.
- 32:19Speaker 4: Man.
- 32:19Speaker 5: I couldn't believe. I've had a couple of other experiences
- 32:22Speaker 5: like that, but man, that first.
- 32:26Speaker 4: The halls all time you are huh, yeah, the hall
- 32:29Speaker 4: is all time.
- 32:29Speaker 6: It was my first year that It was the year
- 32:32Speaker 6: we went to the playoffs and we lost the Green
- 32:34Speaker 6: Bay But when we made that run and clinching division
- 32:37Speaker 6: against the Eagles, I had sack Sam Bradford and I
- 32:40Speaker 6: did this funny little like gentleman's dad thing, And like
- 32:43Speaker 6: the next week, U the Hall s with his kids
- 32:46Speaker 6: and they're playing a board game and his kids like, oh,
- 32:47Speaker 6: I'm doing the little company.
- 32:48Speaker 4: They start dabbing, and the Hall.
- 32:49Speaker 6: Sends it to me, and I was just thinking, like, man, yo,
- 32:52Speaker 6: d Angel Halls text me what his kids are doing.
- 32:54Speaker 6: That's imitating me, And I thought it was like the
- 32:56Speaker 6: coolest thing in the world. But the Halls all time, man, Yeah,
- 32:59Speaker 6: he's great.
- 33:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:01Speaker 4: Sorry about all the Redskins talk, Taylor, I know, man,
- 33:04Speaker 4: what else?
- 33:04Speaker 3: You love it? It's interesting just to just to learn
- 33:08Speaker 3: about that stuff, because, like I mean, Tennessee does have history,
- 33:12Speaker 3: be coming from the from Houston and all that, but
- 33:14Speaker 3: like those team to have like one of the most
- 33:17Speaker 3: rich histories of all the NFL teams. So it's fun
- 33:19Speaker 3: to learn about you growing up. And I mean, obviously
- 33:22Speaker 3: I learned a little bit about with Will he put
- 33:24Speaker 3: there for so long and had so much success there
- 33:26Speaker 3: and his you know, coming from an undrafted guy. You
- 33:29Speaker 3: got it, buddy, you're putting your friends on the podcast,
- 33:31Speaker 3: all be nice. You e've been just to be able
- 33:36Speaker 3: to be undrafted and then to come and you know,
- 33:38Speaker 3: have the story he did. Will's you know, five ft
- 33:41Speaker 3: ten white guy doesn't belong in the NFL, but he's
- 33:49Speaker 3: been doing it. You know what I'm saying, This will
- 33:50Speaker 3: be your apro and so I don't I don't doubt
- 33:52Speaker 3: that was be on our team this year. Will. Would
- 33:54Speaker 3: you ever go back to the Redskins?
- 33:56Speaker 4: I would? I would? You know they're there, Yeah, I
- 33:58Speaker 4: mean I I do.
- 33:59Speaker 6: They're like there's been that salty bitterness, but it has
- 34:02Speaker 6: it has nothing to do with like my uh starting point,
- 34:06Speaker 6: Like the Redskins is where I started everything, you know
- 34:08Speaker 6: what I mean, Like that's where I have the majority
- 34:10Speaker 6: of my relationships. That's probably why I got better when
- 34:12Speaker 6: I was when I left, because you're so close to
- 34:14Speaker 6: an organization.
- 34:16Speaker 4: Uh.
- 34:16Speaker 6: But yeah, I I for sure would if they were,
- 34:18Speaker 6: if they through their hat in the ring, I would
- 34:21Speaker 6: for sure consider going back to the Redskins.
- 34:23Speaker 3: Dude?
- 34:24Speaker 5: Does all the turnover make that decision easier?
- 34:28Speaker 6: I mean there there there's a couple of decisions that, like,
- 34:31Speaker 6: you know, happen that you're kind of like, Okay, they're
- 34:33Speaker 6: they're they're going toward a better direction. I won't say
- 34:37Speaker 6: exactly those decisions you probably know, but but yeah, man,
- 34:42Speaker 6: you just knew how hard the guys worked in the
- 34:44Speaker 6: locker room and how hard actually a lot of those
- 34:46Speaker 6: coaches worked.
- 34:48Speaker 4: And so when when stuff wasn't happening.
- 34:50Speaker 6: It's such a hard place too, because DC is like
- 34:53Speaker 6: this media frenzy of creating bad stories and stuff like that.
- 34:57Speaker 6: You don't really get it as much Taylor picture like
- 35:00Speaker 6: ten Paul Kaharski's in DC.
- 35:02Speaker 4: Not that Paulkaharski.
- 35:03Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's just he plays the good Dylan
- 35:05Speaker 6: role in Tennessee. But it's more like people have real
- 35:08Speaker 6: agendas and vandettas with tearing some of the Redskins apart sometimes.
- 35:13Speaker 6: And so it's like that all the time, Like when
- 35:15Speaker 6: RG three was happening, and her cousins like, I won't
- 35:17Speaker 6: go down all.
- 35:17Speaker 4: Those rabbit holes just because we have a podcast with
- 35:19Speaker 4: Dayla and our junior.
- 35:20Speaker 6: But uh, that's why I think so interesting too, is
- 35:23Speaker 6: your uh you're telling these stories and it's just you know,
- 35:28Speaker 6: you have your own status in the NASCAR world, and
- 35:30Speaker 6: to hear stories about you talking about the Hall and
- 35:33Speaker 6: even though you didn't talk about any of the stories
- 35:35Speaker 6: with me, but like the old Hogs and the Redskins,
- 35:38Speaker 6: it's just cool to kind of hear that stuff and
- 35:40Speaker 6: everybody's I don't know, everybody gets excited and you seem
- 35:43Speaker 6: to love football and.
- 35:44Speaker 4: The Redskins and it's fascinating.
- 35:46Speaker 5: Yeah, well, appreciate it.
- 35:47Speaker 4: Man.
- 35:48Speaker 5: We don't make our memories that we've been telling. We've
- 35:49Speaker 5: been telling each other for a couple years now. We're
- 35:52Speaker 5: going to drink some beers in Nashville.
- 35:54Speaker 4: Dude, I know, and no one ever believes me, And
- 35:56Speaker 4: I'm like, dude.
- 35:56Speaker 3: Yeah, we all have. We've all we've all been that
- 35:58Speaker 3: group text talking about that three of us.
- 36:02Speaker 6: Taylor like, I want, I actually want to do like
- 36:05Speaker 6: through chat, but I feel like you would think I'm
- 36:07Speaker 6: like weirdly flexing.
- 36:08Speaker 4: So I have this weird battle on my head on
- 36:11Speaker 4: not to say too much.
- 36:12Speaker 3: You know, Dale, will you and I will me, we'll
- 36:14Speaker 3: we'll we'll get each other's numbers from each other. It'll
- 36:16Speaker 3: be it'll be fine. Everything will work out. It'll be fine, Dale,
- 36:18Speaker 3: It'll be fine. I'm doing it right now.
- 36:21Speaker 6: Anyway, Taylor, Hey, here's a here's actually a good pivot point,
- 36:24Speaker 6: since we're talking about our new blooming friendship right here,
- 36:28Speaker 6: this trio Dale you have, you're known to have a
- 36:34Speaker 6: western a full Western town commute with a saloon where.
- 36:37Speaker 4: You actually host parties. And we talk about our friendship.
- 36:40Speaker 6: But I've yet to receive that invite.
- 36:44Speaker 4: Here's an opportunity. You invite the boys the next time
- 36:46Speaker 4: you have it.
- 36:47Speaker 5: Yeah, take Taylor, he'll get he'll.
- 36:49Speaker 4: Get a private jet. He'll fl me and him to
- 36:54Speaker 4: Charlotte and we'll go to one of these parties. Tell
- 36:56Speaker 4: us about those parties.
- 36:58Speaker 5: Well, I have to tell you the the Western Town
- 37:03Speaker 5: is a legit Western town. It's it's got a saloon,
- 37:06Speaker 5: a big giant saloon, hotel rooms upstairs, got a bank,
- 37:12Speaker 5: got to share this office with two jail cells. Got
- 37:14Speaker 5: a church. I've actually had my friend of mine use
- 37:17Speaker 5: that Western Town church and all that to get married.
- 37:20Speaker 5: Had about one hundred people down there. It's got a
- 37:24Speaker 5: straight it's got to rode down the middle the whole thing, right,
- 37:27Speaker 5: And I was I used to live across the street
- 37:32Speaker 5: from my dad's race shop, and I had a part
- 37:34Speaker 5: I had a club in my basement of my house,
- 37:36Speaker 5: and we just would trash it. I mean just you
- 37:39Speaker 5: could do your floors. Your shoes would stick to the
- 37:41Speaker 5: floor by the end of the night or the next
- 37:43Speaker 5: day trying to clean up the place because it was
- 37:45Speaker 5: so messy. And so when I moved to this new house,
- 37:48Speaker 5: in this new piece of property, I said, I want
- 37:49Speaker 5: to place to party. We're still partying, we're still drinking,
- 37:53Speaker 5: raising hell, and I want a place to do it.
- 37:55Speaker 5: But I don't want it near my house because I
- 37:57Speaker 5: would I would, I would smoke cigarettes. I let every
- 37:59Speaker 5: bolth cigarettes and they're chilling and crashing and tearing up stuff,
- 38:03Speaker 5: and it's just like it would ruin the whole house, right,
- 38:06Speaker 5: And so we built a Western Town built a saloon.
- 38:09Speaker 5: And I saw Willie Nelson had bought this piece of property.
- 38:13Speaker 5: I'm watching sixty Minutes and Willie Nelson is on it.
- 38:16Speaker 5: And he bought this piece of property that had a
- 38:18Speaker 5: Western town movie set on it with a bunch of sides,
- 38:21Speaker 5: and he finished out the saloon so he could go
- 38:23Speaker 5: in there and hang out. And I thought, that's great idea,
- 38:27Speaker 5: That's what I'll do. So we drew it on a napkin,
- 38:30Speaker 5: and we hired a bunch of local contractors. They came
- 38:32Speaker 5: out here and they built it, and we run power
- 38:36Speaker 5: to it. And we've had it down there for fifteen, sixteen,
- 38:40Speaker 5: eighteen years. It's been down in a long time. And
- 38:41Speaker 5: we used to party all the time, like every week
- 38:46Speaker 5: after the race on to about Wednesday, and then we'd
- 38:49Speaker 5: chill out. But these days we don't party down there
- 38:54Speaker 5: as much as I wish we did. But now it's
- 38:57Speaker 5: like we have it now. We use it like for
- 39:00Speaker 5: family day, for our company outings, and I've rented it
- 39:03Speaker 5: out for commercials and music video shoots and stuff like that.
- 39:06Speaker 5: And but the beer cooler still down there, is still cold,
- 39:09Speaker 5: there's still beer in it, there's still liquor as on
- 39:12Speaker 5: the bar. And anytime you guys want to come over here,
- 39:15Speaker 5: I guess when I have a party, I have to
- 39:16Speaker 5: let you know if make it out.
- 39:21Speaker 3: Yay, hold on, I'm fired up Dale. I'm from from
- 39:26Speaker 3: Cave Creek, Arizona. All right, people in that town, it's
- 39:30Speaker 3: literally a small town. There's no franchise lout in it.
- 39:33Speaker 3: We let a dairy queen in the eighties and that
- 39:35Speaker 3: was a huge deal, right, the whole town gathered around
- 39:37Speaker 3: for that thing, very fired up. But well, yeah, but
- 39:42Speaker 3: it's got like a nice charm.
- 39:44Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't want to compare. I really don't want
- 39:46Speaker 6: to disrespect them.
- 39:47Speaker 3: We shouldn't we just and so you own a like
- 39:53Speaker 3: just owning a western town. I don't know. I don't
- 39:54Speaker 3: know a bus, and I'm very proud of that.
- 39:57Speaker 5: But that's where that's how it starts.
- 40:00Speaker 3: What's that? Oh, oh, Jude, I'm I'm one hundred percent.
- 40:02Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this. When we have
- 40:03Speaker 3: a bus with your with your number on it, of
- 40:05Speaker 3: course I know. It's pretty killer. It's pretty killer. I
- 40:08Speaker 3: love to say. It's the reason why we bought it.
- 40:10Speaker 3: It was two grand, that's why we bought it. But
- 40:12Speaker 3: the character that came with it was beautiful. It doesn't
- 40:15Speaker 3: have all.
- 40:15Speaker 5: I have a bus, what you do? I have a
- 40:18Speaker 5: bus on my property and it's the same as y'all's.
- 40:21Speaker 5: It's got a couple uh dynants in it. We put
- 40:24Speaker 5: some old old bench seats like out of an old
- 40:27Speaker 5: Chevy Seville and stuff like that in it to sit
- 40:29Speaker 5: and chill. And it's like a bar inside the bus
- 40:31Speaker 5: and we painted it like the Bull Durham bus from
- 40:33Speaker 5: the movie Bull Durham.
- 40:35Speaker 3: Yeah, the great movie, great movie.
- 40:37Speaker 5: Five hundred dollar bus. All we got into it and
- 40:39Speaker 5: it's a great place to sit and have a drink.
- 40:41Speaker 5: But uh, that's how it starts, man. You get a bus.
- 40:44Speaker 5: Then the next thing, you know, you want something a
- 40:45Speaker 5: little larger, you want something a little different. And I
- 40:48Speaker 5: went with the western town theme. I don't know which
- 40:50Speaker 5: guy what you guys will go Taylor.
- 40:52Speaker 4: Taylor would for sure do that, dude. I can see
- 40:54Speaker 4: him like loving dude.
- 40:57Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I think a western town might be
- 40:59Speaker 3: the next move on the start looking for places. I'll
- 41:03Speaker 3: probably I'll probably buy the whole town of Bonta, Missouri
- 41:05Speaker 3: and go make myself a western town.
- 41:07Speaker 5: We started with basically just the square Yeah, we just
- 41:13Speaker 5: started with the saloon. I mean, it's just a square
- 41:15Speaker 5: room and that's what it started as. And we, over
- 41:18Speaker 5: a period of several years, just kept adding things to it.
- 41:20Speaker 5: I'm like, well, we got to have a Berkemtowe shed,
- 41:23Speaker 5: so we built a mercantile shed, and then we had
- 41:26Speaker 5: to have a doc. We had to have a place
- 41:28Speaker 5: a barber. Western town's got to have the barber shop. Man,
- 41:33Speaker 5: It's just a facade. It's like a it's like the
- 41:35Speaker 5: front of it, and it's like two feet deep inside
- 41:37Speaker 5: the windows, and you just got kinds of stuff sitting
- 41:39Speaker 5: in there that makes it look like a barber shop.
- 41:40Speaker 5: It's not real, but the saloon's entirely functional.
- 41:44Speaker 4: Have you been?
- 41:45Speaker 3: Have you been to Catalina Island and areas in California?
- 41:48Speaker 4: I have it.
- 41:49Speaker 3: Okay, So I had this great I made. I'm in
- 41:52Speaker 3: California right now. I mean as neat as you can
- 41:54Speaker 3: actually see the island from where I'm at. Weird, flex,
- 41:57Speaker 3: That was stupid but.
- 42:00Speaker 4: To say.
- 42:03Speaker 3: But so I had this great idea last year. It's
- 42:07Speaker 3: like Valentine's Day weekend. I'm like, you know what, I'm
- 42:09Speaker 3: gonna take my wife to Catalina Island. So we go.
- 42:13Speaker 3: We had a helicopter. The helicopter takes Catalina Island. That's
- 42:16Speaker 3: part of the story. I'm not actually trying to flex again,
- 42:18Speaker 3: And uh, there's actually two parts. This turn just turned
- 42:20Speaker 3: into a two part story. So buckle Updale, and we're
- 42:24Speaker 3: flying with this guy, and this guy's telling all these
- 42:26Speaker 3: crazy stories to us, and he starts telling us about
- 42:30Speaker 3: how he was a pilot for a bunch of athletes
- 42:33Speaker 3: and he was a he was Kobe Bryant's pilot and
- 42:37Speaker 3: he would fly Kobe everywhere all the time. And long
- 42:40Speaker 3: story short, like of that story, there's two, there's none
- 42:42Speaker 3: coming up. That was the pilot that was with Kobe
- 42:44Speaker 3: when he unfortunately passed away. It was it was crazy.
- 42:48Speaker 3: It was it was a crazy game.
- 42:49Speaker 6: But he was an.
- 42:49Speaker 3: Unbelievable he was Ulie guy. From a little bit of
- 42:51Speaker 3: time we got to know him. But we flew to
- 42:53Speaker 3: Catalina and in the front when we first flapt, You're like, wow,
- 42:57Speaker 3: this is the cutest town I've ever seen in my
- 42:59Speaker 3: entire life. It's like this tiny little island. They have buffalo.
- 43:02Speaker 3: It's beautiful. And then you get like one block in
- 43:05Speaker 3: and you realize, like it's just a It literally is
- 43:07Speaker 3: like a stage prop set. Like everything's nice in front,
- 43:10Speaker 3: and then you get like you get like one block in,
- 43:12Speaker 3: it's kind of like, you know, like there's stuff all
- 43:14Speaker 3: over the ground. Things are kind of dirty. It's it's
- 43:16Speaker 3: a it's a little rough and we were there in
- 43:18Speaker 3: the winter time, so it wasn't like a tourist time, Mike,
- 43:22Speaker 3: it was it was ah, that little Harry there for
- 43:24Speaker 3: a second. Dale it was a little sketchy getting out
- 43:26Speaker 3: of there, a little nervous.
- 43:27Speaker 5: What about the buffalo. So there's this buffalo hanging out.
- 43:31Speaker 3: So there on the island. Some guy and like, oh,
- 43:35Speaker 3: took him from Idaho or whatever and brought all these
- 43:38Speaker 3: buffalo to Catalen Island to film a Western movie. And
- 43:42Speaker 3: once he finished the Western movie, he's like, well it
- 43:45Speaker 3: toss more to take these buffalo back. He just left
- 43:47Speaker 3: the buffalo there. And now they're like and now like
- 43:50Speaker 3: indigenous there. I guess like they can't go back. Hold
- 43:52Speaker 3: they like they've like had generations of like this born
- 43:56Speaker 3: and now these now these buffalo are just like well
- 43:58Speaker 3: we're just Cali buffalo. Now we just we just chill
- 44:00Speaker 3: out here on this two mile radius island. It's a
- 44:03Speaker 3: creat it's a it's a weird it's a weird setup
- 44:06Speaker 3: because it's very it's all based on tourism. And but
- 44:09Speaker 3: there's a high school, there's like an actual town and
- 44:11Speaker 3: then they'll like to get on ferries go to Long
- 44:14Speaker 3: Beach to play football games. Ah yeah, So it's a
- 44:17Speaker 3: it's a weird setup, not even airport or nothing. But yeah,
- 44:20Speaker 3: that's my story about kind of a western town.
- 44:22Speaker 6: The second business for the boys comes to us from FreeFly.
- 44:28Speaker 6: A couple of weeks ago. I got a box of
- 44:30Speaker 6: clothing from this company, and you know, I think they're
- 44:34Speaker 6: based out of don't quote me on this. I think
- 44:37Speaker 6: they're based out of North Carolina, just because one of
- 44:39Speaker 6: my good buddies was telling me about free Fly before
- 44:41Speaker 6: they even shipped us this box. And it's not because
- 44:45Speaker 6: they were shipping it to us. I just heard about
- 44:46Speaker 6: it already, and so then when they shifted there, I
- 44:49Speaker 6: was like, hey, yo, free Fly just shipped us a
- 44:51Speaker 6: bunch of stuff, and he's like, yeah, let me know
- 44:55Speaker 6: how the clothing is. The clothing is made from Get this.
- 44:57Speaker 6: The clothing is made from bamboo, butter soft bamboo, and
- 45:01Speaker 6: it's fucking unbelievable. You take this stuff out and you
- 45:04Speaker 6: feel it, and you're like your first thought is like, Okay,
- 45:06Speaker 6: it's gonna be another clothing brand that kind of feels
- 45:08Speaker 6: like the polyester, like the you know, the dry fit
- 45:11Speaker 6: stuff you wear for workouts. I grab it, I pick
- 45:13Speaker 6: it up on my Holy shit, I'm like, hey, babe,
- 45:15Speaker 6: like check out this material.
- 45:16Speaker 4: Throw it over to her.
- 45:17Speaker 6: She grabs and she's like, Yeah, this is like the
- 45:18Speaker 6: softest shit I've ever I've ever felt.
- 45:20Speaker 4: She's like, who's this from? Like the cat's called free Fly.
- 45:24Speaker 4: I can't wait. I've been wearing it, you know, just
- 45:26Speaker 4: on our walks.
- 45:27Speaker 6: Around the area right now, around the green ways or
- 45:30Speaker 6: by the park because obviously quarantine. But I can't wait
- 45:33Speaker 6: to get on the golf course with these bad boys
- 45:35Speaker 6: working out in it, all that fun stuff. Here's the
- 45:38Speaker 6: background on free Fly. Free Fly was founded by Montana
- 45:42Speaker 6: by a Montana fishing guy and two Nike marketers. They
- 45:45Speaker 6: identified a big problem in the outdoor world with their
- 45:48Speaker 6: clothing because it was too complicated and too uncomfortable.
- 45:51Speaker 4: Together, they quit their jobs, big.
- 45:54Speaker 6: Swinging dick move right there, and made it their mission
- 45:57Speaker 6: to create the most comfortable shirt imaginable. On top of
- 46:01Speaker 6: being super super comfortable, free Flies bamboo clothing has upf
- 46:05Speaker 6: some protection, wix away moisture and won't hold odor hold odor.
- 46:10Speaker 6: I can attest to that. I'm a big pit guy.
- 46:12Speaker 6: I'm a big pit sweater dude, and low backsweater, and
- 46:15Speaker 6: this stuff wicks away at the pits and it doesn't.
- 46:18Speaker 4: Hold your odor.
- 46:19Speaker 6: So you know that smell when you first put on
- 46:21Speaker 6: one of those dry fits from like Nike or Ditas
- 46:23Speaker 6: or one of them, And usually you gotta wash it
- 46:25Speaker 6: right away because you can smell yourself because the material
- 46:27Speaker 6: just doesn't mesh well. Not with free Fly. Odor doesn't
- 46:33Speaker 6: show right away. It wicks away moisture. All this mon
- 46:35Speaker 6: stuff from fishing to hitting the gym or lounging around
- 46:39Speaker 6: the house. This stuff is unreal comfortable. Boys, you can
- 46:42Speaker 6: get twenty percent off. Oh in girls, my bad shot
- 46:43Speaker 6: out to girls too. You can get twenty percent off
- 46:45Speaker 6: when you visit FreeFly apparel dot com backslash bussing again.
- 46:50Speaker 6: That's FreeFly apparel dot Com backslash bussing for twenty percent
- 46:53Speaker 6: off your entire order.
- 46:55Speaker 4: Go check them out. They're for the boys.
- 46:57Speaker 6: If they're for the boys, we're for those boys. Now
- 47:00Speaker 6: back to this Banger podcast with Dale Junior. Shout out
- 47:03Speaker 6: to boy Dale, it's a mac. I can't wait for
- 47:06Speaker 6: you guys to finish this episode. Yo, Taylor bringing up
- 47:12Speaker 6: the Kobe Bryant's pilot. You actually gotten a recent crash back?
- 47:17Speaker 4: What was that in August last year?
- 47:19Speaker 5: Yeah? Sometimes can you.
- 47:21Speaker 4: Can you tell us about that a little bit?
- 47:22Speaker 6: And then can you also tell us probably how you
- 47:25Speaker 6: guys probably sat back and reflected after seeing the Kobe
- 47:28Speaker 6: news and thinking you were in something you know, similar,
- 47:31Speaker 6: something that could have been you know.
- 47:32Speaker 5: So yeah, well you know the you know, where do
- 47:40Speaker 5: I even start the We were in a really you know,
- 47:46Speaker 5: we were in a bad accident and very scary, you know.
- 47:52Speaker 5: We I've flown all my life, and I think, you know,
- 47:57Speaker 5: I look back and I flew wrote in king Air
- 47:59Speaker 5: prop planes and Brazilians prop planes and just anything. I
- 48:04Speaker 5: never have questioned it, right, I got on it. Here,
- 48:07Speaker 5: here we go, We're going somewhere. I don't even I
- 48:09Speaker 5: don't even care when I never questioned it. I got
- 48:12Speaker 5: on every plane whatever. I never looked at it and went,
- 48:14Speaker 5: I don't want to get on that. I figured it's good,
- 48:17Speaker 5: We're good. I trust. I trust what's happening here, no
- 48:20Speaker 5: matter what it was. And we fly as race teams.
- 48:23Speaker 5: We fly private even on you know, even the team
- 48:27Speaker 5: planes are privately owned aircraft. We rarely have ever flew commercial.
- 48:33Speaker 5: And so you know, for all these years, you know,
- 48:39Speaker 5: I just took it for granted that I was you know,
- 48:41Speaker 5: putting my trust in all the people that either you know,
- 48:44Speaker 5: were the mechanics on these planes or the pilots on
- 48:46Speaker 5: these planes, and and the history of the plane itself.
- 48:49Speaker 5: So I got a brand new plane from Cessna. It's
- 48:53Speaker 5: a really nice plane, and I'm we're flying it. We've
- 48:55Speaker 5: been flying it a while, and we've landed it into
- 48:57Speaker 5: that airport before, and it was a great day. And
- 49:00Speaker 5: we're flying on in there, and I remember being a
- 49:03Speaker 5: couple of miles from the airport looking down the ground.
- 49:06Speaker 5: Everything's going just like it's supposed to go, and uh,
- 49:10Speaker 5: we came down in to land and we landed.
- 49:14Speaker 4: We bounced.
- 49:15Speaker 5: Basically when you land a plane, you kind of want
- 49:17Speaker 5: to land the rear tires first, obviously, and then then
- 49:20Speaker 5: bring the tail, bring the nose down. And when we landed,
- 49:23Speaker 5: we landed sort of flat, and a plane bounced back
- 49:26Speaker 5: up in the air. And when it landed the first time,
- 49:28Speaker 5: it shut all the blinds and so now we can't
- 49:31Speaker 5: see out. We just know we bounced up in the air.
- 49:34Speaker 5: And I don't know if we're ten feet in the
- 49:36Speaker 5: air or one hundred feet feet in the air, right,
- 49:39Speaker 5: but I know we got to get down on that runway,
- 49:42Speaker 5: and it's not a really long runway, and we don't
- 49:44Speaker 5: have a lot of time to be bouncing and taking
- 49:46Speaker 5: up you know, taking up time trying to get the
- 49:47Speaker 5: plane on the ground. So we came down again just
- 49:50Speaker 5: as hard, if not harder, and uh, the land again
- 49:54Speaker 5: on the right side broke again. You know, the the uh,
- 49:58Speaker 5: the the blinds are shut, so you've got no reference
- 50:01Speaker 5: of what's going on outside. You don't know what you
- 50:03Speaker 5: don't know what's up and up, up or down left
- 50:06Speaker 5: and right. You're just kind of in this tube moving
- 50:09Speaker 5: And so I could tell the plane that was tilted
- 50:11Speaker 5: when we came down the same time, and I thought,
- 50:13Speaker 5: in my mind, I'm like, mechanically, we're broken the right
- 50:17Speaker 5: side gear and now we're on the wing and that
- 50:21Speaker 5: wing dragon and that tail, that that stuff dragging sort
- 50:24Speaker 5: of turned the plane started to turn the plane, and
- 50:26Speaker 5: in my mind again the mechanical and narrow race car
- 50:29Speaker 5: driver Mine starts thinking, now we're the plane's turned, the
- 50:34Speaker 5: plane's turning with the wing, the left wing up in
- 50:36Speaker 5: the air, and that's that's probably gonna try to create
- 50:38Speaker 5: some lift and bring the plane up in the air,
- 50:41Speaker 5: and you know, and and cartwheel the plane, So you know,
- 50:46Speaker 5: you're thinking you're gonna be You're you're gonna die. You know,
- 50:49Speaker 5: you're thinking in that moment that that this is this
- 50:52Speaker 5: is how it's gonna happen. And so you're you know,
- 50:58Speaker 5: in a lot of situations when you're for example, you're
- 51:00Speaker 5: racing a car and it's dangerous and you're crashing, you
- 51:04Speaker 5: never think ever that you never give up hope that
- 51:08Speaker 5: you're you're gonna get out one piece or you're gonna
- 51:10Speaker 5: you know, you never think about getting injured. But anytime
- 51:13Speaker 5: trying to put this in and trying to articulate this,
- 51:15Speaker 5: but you know, you assume risk. You know, when you
- 51:20Speaker 5: when you're running out a guy and you're gonna tackle
- 51:22Speaker 5: him and you lined up for a really bad angle
- 51:26Speaker 5: and you're gonna hit this guy really hard and it
- 51:28Speaker 5: might hurt you, it might hurt him, but you're taking
- 51:30Speaker 5: that risk. You assume that. You know it. You know
- 51:32Speaker 5: you're not gonna die. You don't never think in your
- 51:34Speaker 5: mind you could die, but you might hurt yourself and
- 51:37Speaker 5: you might hurt him. But you got to take you know,
- 51:39Speaker 5: you put yourself in a position. You do that with racing.
- 51:42Speaker 5: You never do that with airplanes, and so here we
- 51:44Speaker 5: are and the plane starts to starts to turn, and
- 51:48Speaker 5: I'm thinking it's gonna lift, create and lift like that,
- 51:51Speaker 5: like the way it's positioned, and it ended up going
- 51:58Speaker 5: off the runway, which broke the left side gear and
- 52:03Speaker 5: uh got the planet, got the plane back on the
- 52:05Speaker 5: ground to where it wasn't going to create lyft underneath it,
- 52:09Speaker 5: and then it got really rough. We haen we we
- 52:12Speaker 5: went down into sort of a ditch ravine area and
- 52:16Speaker 5: when it hit that, that was extremely violent, and we
- 52:21Speaker 5: slid a little bit further and it came to stop,
- 52:24Speaker 5: and uh, I started hollering for Amy. The whole interior
- 52:31Speaker 5: of the plane doesn't isn't recognizable anymore. Panels and things
- 52:34Speaker 5: are or are or moot missing and loosen in different places.
- 52:39Speaker 5: Everything's moved, and uh, you know, just trying to In
- 52:45Speaker 5: that moment, you just sort of think, am I broken?
- 52:48Speaker 5: And I got my daughter Ailah, and I got I
- 52:50Speaker 5: got to look at her and check her, and she's,
- 52:53Speaker 5: you know, screaming, and I'm thinking, God, please don't let
- 52:56Speaker 5: nothing be wrong with her. Please don't let nothing be
- 52:59Speaker 5: wrong with my girl. Right, And so I look at
- 53:02Speaker 5: her real quick and I said, you know, as far
- 53:06Speaker 5: as I can tell, and just this split second, you
- 53:08Speaker 5: know she's gonna be okay. I hand her to Amy.
- 53:11Speaker 5: Amy's trying to get her barons, and I was like, Amy, check,
- 53:14Speaker 5: I look really good. Just that's all you need to
- 53:16Speaker 5: do right now is look at her and check her legs, arms,
- 53:20Speaker 5: and check her head as she gonna you know, she
- 53:22Speaker 5: got any kind of bruise on her head or head
- 53:23Speaker 5: her head or anything, I don't know. And so I
- 53:26Speaker 5: gave Amy that responsibility in that moment. And then I
- 53:30Speaker 5: because I wanted to find a way out. I wanted
- 53:33Speaker 5: to figure out how I knew we had a hatch
- 53:35Speaker 5: in the back. You know, we got the door, the
- 53:36Speaker 5: planes kind of leaned over. I'm thinking, I don't know
- 53:39Speaker 5: if we know them the front door, because that way
- 53:41Speaker 5: of the plane's position, probably not gonna be able to
- 53:43Speaker 5: get that open. So I'm thinking, get that hatch in
- 53:45Speaker 5: the back of it. Let's create an opportunity to leave.
- 53:48Speaker 5: So I went back there and I'm seeing smoke coming
- 53:52Speaker 5: out of the toilet, and so Black Dark picked smoke.
- 53:55Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I hollered up to the front.
- 53:56Speaker 5: I was like, we're on fire.
- 53:57Speaker 4: We've gotta go.
- 53:58Speaker 5: Y'all need the plane. The pilot sure up. They're doing
- 54:00Speaker 5: all they're trained to do a series of things when
- 54:05Speaker 5: they're in the situation. They got to fire off the extinguishers.
- 54:08Speaker 5: They got to shut this down, turn them, you know.
- 54:10Speaker 5: They you can't climb, you can't leave motors running and
- 54:12Speaker 5: carry it on. So they're doing all the things as
- 54:14Speaker 5: fast as they can to get everything to where the
- 54:16Speaker 5: plane is as safe as possible and the circumstances it's in.
- 54:21Speaker 5: So they're up. They're doing that right when when when
- 54:23Speaker 5: I saw the smoke, I was like, yeah, come on, man,
- 54:25Speaker 5: we're on fire. We gotta we gotta move a little faster.
- 54:29Speaker 5: I couldn't get that hatch open. And uh, I'm I'm
- 54:32Speaker 5: trying to like, he'll get that hatch open, and I
- 54:33Speaker 5: can't get it open. That smoke's getting worse and worse.
- 54:37Speaker 5: We'd we'd went through a chain link fence and had
- 54:39Speaker 5: wrapped around that door and wouldn't allow the door to
- 54:42Speaker 5: open away I needed it to. So we're trying to
- 54:46Speaker 5: get that open. It ain't happening. And I turned back
- 54:49Speaker 5: and I hollered at the other pilot and I said,
- 54:51Speaker 5: I can't get it open. Amy hollers at him and says,
- 54:55Speaker 5: try the front door one more time because we had
- 54:58Speaker 5: tried it and couldn't get it to move. And he
- 55:00Speaker 5: goes up there to the front door and turns a
- 55:02Speaker 5: handle and kicks it and it popped open about two inches,
- 55:06Speaker 5: I mean two feet. And so we climbed up the stairs.
- 55:09Speaker 5: So the stairs are now it's the stairs when the plane.
- 55:12Speaker 5: When the door ups up, you know, you walk up
- 55:14Speaker 5: the stairs. Well, now we're walking. We're climbing up the
- 55:17Speaker 5: bottom of the stairs or to get out of the plane.
- 55:21Speaker 5: And so the lead pilot goes to get out of
- 55:25Speaker 5: the plane to build. Then he's like, hand me the baby.
- 55:28Speaker 5: So I go up there to hand him the baby.
- 55:30Speaker 5: Now I get out of the plane, and I'm still
- 55:34Speaker 5: a bit.
- 55:37Speaker 4: I can't.
- 55:39Speaker 5: In the entire time all this is going on, I
- 55:41Speaker 5: still am not one hundred percent sure that Island is okay.
- 55:48Speaker 5: During this whole process, I'm still wanting I still need
- 55:51Speaker 5: more information about Isla, my little girl. You know, it's
- 55:55Speaker 5: like dominating my thoughts and I still, you know, with
- 56:02Speaker 5: my head injuries and the issues that I've had with that,
- 56:05Speaker 5: I'm thinking, man, she's not even two years old.
- 56:07Speaker 4: Yet she can't.
- 56:08Speaker 5: I can't have her dealing with stuff like that. And
- 56:13Speaker 5: so anyways, I'm just I need to know. I need
- 56:16Speaker 5: to see her, right. And so I took a step
- 56:19Speaker 5: to go because he took off running. The pilot I
- 56:22Speaker 5: gave him is leant and he takes off running. I
- 56:23Speaker 5: climb out and I'm like, come back, I gotta see you.
- 56:28Speaker 5: I got check ala damn he's running. I can hardly walk.
- 56:31Speaker 5: My back is tore all the hell and I could
- 56:35Speaker 5: hardly move. And so he took off until turn around
- 56:38Speaker 5: and I'm helping Amy get out, and the damn grass
- 56:42Speaker 5: was on fire underneath us. It was crazy as hell.
- 56:44Speaker 5: It was like in the movies. And then we had
- 56:47Speaker 5: to pull our dog out and then our second pilot
- 56:50Speaker 5: come out. It was just a really I haven't talked
- 56:55Speaker 5: about her relived it in a long in a while,
- 56:58Speaker 5: but it was very, very scary, you know. And then
- 57:02Speaker 5: you're riding to then they put Amy in her own
- 57:05Speaker 5: ambulance with island. Then I'm in an ambulance by myself,
- 57:08Speaker 5: and I still don't know if Island's one hundred percent,
- 57:10Speaker 5: and I'm really tore up emotionally. The guy riding in
- 57:16Speaker 5: an ambulance. Did the coolest thing ever. He calls the
- 57:21Speaker 5: other ambulance on his cell phone and puts my wife
- 57:23Speaker 5: on the phone and gives it to me and so
- 57:25Speaker 5: I can talk to her. And I said, you know,
- 57:26Speaker 5: finally I was like, Amy, got a chance to really
- 57:29Speaker 5: look at Isla and take take you know, see what's
- 57:31Speaker 5: going on with her. She okay, And you know, so
- 57:35Speaker 5: I kind of finally got some relief of because that
- 57:38Speaker 5: was so stressful. And you know, Amy, I've been in
- 57:43Speaker 5: race car crashes, flips, just really bad stuff, caught on fire,
- 57:50Speaker 5: done all kinds of crazy stuff in race cars. So
- 57:52Speaker 5: when you crash a car, even really badly, the first
- 57:56Speaker 5: thought that you really have is, well, we got another
- 58:01Speaker 5: car in the hauller because we take two to the racetrack.
- 58:03Speaker 5: It's a backup car, is what they call it. I
- 58:05Speaker 5: wonder how good that backup car is? Is it as
- 58:07Speaker 5: good as the one I just crashed? That's your first thought.
- 58:10Speaker 5: You don't think about damn, that was a close near
- 58:13Speaker 5: death experience. You don't never even think about stuff like that.
- 58:15Speaker 5: You just think, man, I gotta get back on the track.
- 58:17Speaker 5: How do how good is the other car? Let's go,
- 58:20Speaker 5: you know, load that loaded, load to crash. One up,
- 58:23Speaker 5: we'll get the other one out. Let's go. And so
- 58:26Speaker 5: I was seasoned, and when it happened, I got out,
- 58:29Speaker 5: you know, all that happened. As soon as I knew
- 58:31Speaker 5: everybody was okay and everybody was healthy, I went into, Okay,
- 58:35Speaker 5: what's this? Uh you know, how what what's the next move?
- 58:38Speaker 5: What do we need to do. There's got to be
- 58:40Speaker 5: some rules, regulations, steps we need to take. Uhh, the
- 58:45Speaker 5: financial ask, you know, fallout or whatever.
- 58:47Speaker 4: You know.
- 58:48Speaker 5: I'm starting to go into that mode, you know. And
- 58:51Speaker 5: uh and and man, I really in a week was
- 58:54Speaker 5: back on a plane, or even sooner was back on
- 58:57Speaker 5: a plane flying now, a little bit more nervous about
- 58:59Speaker 5: landings and so forth, but I got right back to it.
- 59:03Speaker 5: Amy on the other hand, had a harder time with it.
- 59:04Speaker 5: She that was like completely life shattering or altering for her,
- 59:09Speaker 5: and she still struggles today with getting comfortable to fly.
- 59:13Speaker 4: Now.
- 59:13Speaker 5: I admit, I cannot put my daughter on a plane
- 59:16Speaker 5: right now. I still ain't. She remembers it happening when
- 59:23Speaker 5: we take her own planes now, she has a reaction
- 59:26Speaker 5: when we take off, when we hit turbulence when we land.
- 59:28Speaker 5: She used to not you know, but now she has reactions.
- 59:31Speaker 5: She remembers something about that day. And now she gets older,
- 59:36Speaker 5: five ten, twenty forty years old, She's not going to
- 59:39Speaker 5: remember what happened to her when she was younger than
- 59:41Speaker 5: two years old, but for now she does, you know.
- 59:44Speaker 5: So I don't like taking her own planes. I don't
- 59:46Speaker 5: like putting her through that stress. I feel selfish because
- 59:49Speaker 5: I'm taking her where I want to go. She has
- 59:51Speaker 5: no idea where we're going, no idea. She's not her
- 59:55Speaker 5: wish to get on this plane and go to wherever
- 59:57Speaker 5: we're going in our destination, and I feel selfish for
- 59:59Speaker 5: doing it. So I don't like putting her on planes
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: because she doesn't enjoy it and it stresses her out.
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: So that's the hard part for me. Otherwise I'm comfortable.
- 1:00:10Speaker 5: I've already gotten another plane.
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: I'm back.
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: I still kept one of my pilots from that from
- 1:00:16Speaker 5: that incident, and I'm back in the air and I'm
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: back going. We went to uh We went to therapy.
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: I believe in therapy, you know, I believe in talking
- 1:00:28Speaker 5: to somebody you've got problems. We all got stuff. We
- 1:00:31Speaker 5: got to deal with. I got stuff from my childhood
- 1:00:33Speaker 5: that I still need work on and probably don't put
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: enough time in. But so we went right to a
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: therapist to say, hey, is there anything you can do.
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: We're ready to work. So me and Amy did a
- 1:00:46Speaker 5: little bit of work there which helped us. She continues
- 1:00:50Speaker 5: to do some work with some with some with some
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: folks to to help her understand how to comfortably fly
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: and get back and you know in the flying her
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: on a regular basis. Uh, but she's way behind, you
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: know me, She's probably where any of anybody else would
- 1:01:05Speaker 5: be given the situation. But I think, uh, you know,
- 1:01:14Speaker 5: when when you hear about you know you, I don't
- 1:01:20Speaker 5: you know, I don't know how to I don't know
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: how to articulate the the emotions when you see something
- 1:01:26Speaker 5: like that happened to Kobe. I think the the initial
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: reaction that you have is that you know, there's lives
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: destroyed and and people's hearts are broken. I can I
- 1:01:48Speaker 5: kind of related more to losing my dad than than
- 1:01:51Speaker 5: than our plane crash, right because you know, Kobe lost
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: his life, his daughter and and and other people on
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: the plane. There's people here that are hurting and and
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: sad and just there's a hole and man, it never
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: you're never gonna feel You're never gonna it's never gonna
- 1:02:09Speaker 5: be the same, you know, And so that that that
- 1:02:14Speaker 5: part is that's the worst part, is that you know
- 1:02:22Speaker 5: that their hearts are so broken, and uh, you know,
- 1:02:26Speaker 5: and and I don't you know, I always uh you know,
- 1:02:32Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like that, I don't know,
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: I always felt like I don't know if this is
- 1:02:43Speaker 5: a defense mechanism, if it's b S or what. But
- 1:02:47Speaker 5: I felt like when I got here, my destiny was
- 1:02:50Speaker 5: already made, you know, when I when I was born.
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: I know I'm responsible for the decisions I make. And
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: this might be getting a little bit in the weeds,
- 1:02:59Speaker 5: but I feel like that I'm just gonna live my
- 1:03:03Speaker 5: life and whatever's destined to happen to me, however I'm
- 1:03:06Speaker 5: supposed to go, is how I was already decided. And
- 1:03:11Speaker 5: so that I think it's probably BS to be honest
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: with you, but it leaves me without responsibility of it.
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: I know I need to make what decision to do
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: what I need to do for my family. I don't
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: need to do anything stupid. It's gonna put me at risk,
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: but you know, I it's the only way that I
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: can live without fear, without worry. I lost my mom
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: last year to lung cancer, and for for for the
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: last probably six or eight months, I have done nothing
- 1:03:46Speaker 5: but worry about dying and leaving my daughter too young?
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: You know, Man, am I gonna be around when she's
- 1:03:53Speaker 5: If I died at sixty seven or so, like my mom,
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: my daughter would be twenty two. I mean, how would
- 1:03:59Speaker 5: that affect her? God? I got to live longer, you know.
- 1:04:04Speaker 5: And so stupid. I know that's silly. And my wife
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: is annoyed to death by my by mine by the
- 1:04:11Speaker 5: way I am, I'm just weird, but.
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: So I real quick, real quick, I don't I don't
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: think what you're saying at all is bs. I think
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: it's almost a uniquely beautiful way to live life, because
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: I mean, yes, you don't want to leave your family,
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: tor really and I kind of a very similar in
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: the way you are, as like, I'm kind of just
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: I don't want to live in it and the fear
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: I don't want to go If I go out in
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: the ocean for whatever reason, I don't want to think,
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: oh what if a shark gets me? Some things that
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: are statistically probably not going to happen a plane accident,
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: for instance, Like statistically, that's not going to happen to you,
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: you know, And it's I think the way you're living
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: is a lot of ways that people should try to
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: live because you don't live with barriers. You don't live
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: in a situation where I can't do this or I
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: can't do that. If anything, it seems like an amplifize
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: because I hear the emotion in your voice. It seems
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: like an amplifize. The love you have for your family,
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: the love you have for your daughter, the love you
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: have for your next kid is like you're making you
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: don't know how long you're gonna have. And like, I
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: think that's the crazy thing about Kobe is like I mean,
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: I grew up watching Kobe. Like everybody talks about Kobe
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: Lebron and Michael Jordan, and it's like I didn't never,
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: never really saw Michael play, you know, And I've obviously
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: Lebron played like Kobe was like a figure, like an
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: untouched figure, like a Greek god type of guy that
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: we see so little in the sports world. And for
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: someone like him to go in a situation that's so sudden.
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: It really puts things into perspective. But it also shows
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: that like if you look at the way Kobe lived
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: his life, if you look at the way he handled himself,
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: what he did in such a short time when he
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: was retired, I think he wanted, uh what he was
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: nominated for a gold and glower, an Emmy or something.
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: I think he won an Emmy. His family loved him,
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: had four daughters, he had, he was he did so
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: much with with quality that like the quantity doesn't matter.
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: I mean, we can all live alive to eighty and
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: be shitty, or we can you know, or we can
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: be lived to forty and be an incredible person, you know.
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: And that's that's the decisions we make on a day
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: to day basis. So I think, I mean, I understand
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: why you would think that's BS, but in a lot
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: of ways, I think it's a beautiful thing. And I
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: try to live my way, well my life that way
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: as well as trying to let's not fear of the
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: unknown of the possibilities. Now, I'm sure it's very different
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: when you've been in situations like that plane crash, like
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: some of the car crashes you've been in watching situations
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: like your dad like I can't, I can't imagine those things,
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: and then to watch situation like what happened your dad
- 1:06:44Speaker 3: and then say, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: gonna race, I'm gonna keep racing. I'm gonna keep doing this.
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: That's It says a lot about your character and how
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: much you do believe that you're you know, on an
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: arrow from point A to point B, you know, and
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: and without anything getting in your way.
- 1:06:57Speaker 5: That's the way I feel. I feel like that my
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: destinies already chosen, and I live that way because I
- 1:07:03Speaker 5: don't want to live in fear. I don't want to.
- 1:07:06Speaker 5: I don't want to avoid opportunity and avoid experiences out
- 1:07:13Speaker 5: of fear. And and I don't want to certainly imprint
- 1:07:16Speaker 5: this on my this fear on my child, you know,
- 1:07:19Speaker 5: and and and create you know, fears and unrealistic things
- 1:07:23Speaker 5: for her. So but I do you know that there's
- 1:07:30Speaker 5: I'm just now getting sort of free of. I was
- 1:07:33Speaker 5: really way free of the plain incident that that for
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: me has subsided pretty good, and I don't have it
- 1:07:39Speaker 5: doesn't affect me in my day to day. It took
- 1:07:42Speaker 5: a while me and Amy would sit around and just
- 1:07:47Speaker 5: tell each other every five minutes. Man, I just thought
- 1:07:49Speaker 5: about it. Man, I just thought about it. Man, I
- 1:07:51Speaker 5: just I just thought about that moment. We were doing
- 1:07:53Speaker 5: it all day long, every day, and we don't anymore.
- 1:07:58Speaker 5: It doesn't come up in my thoughts like it used
- 1:08:01Speaker 5: to my mom's death. That's starting to subside a little bit,
- 1:08:05Speaker 5: that worry of dying at fear of man, did I
- 1:08:08Speaker 5: take care of my body? Did I do the things
- 1:08:10Speaker 5: I needed to do to to give myself the opportunity
- 1:08:12Speaker 5: to to see my child grow up and and and
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: be who she can be. All that worry is starting
- 1:08:18Speaker 5: to subside a little bit. It sucks, though, how those
- 1:08:21Speaker 5: events in your life can certainly grab a hold of
- 1:08:24Speaker 5: you and steer you the wrong way or get your
- 1:08:26Speaker 5: you know, get your mental your mental state sort of
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: sort of locked up for for a while. And that's
- 1:08:35Speaker 5: why I believe in the therapy, you know, just going
- 1:08:38Speaker 5: and if you need it, if you need to talk
- 1:08:39Speaker 5: to somebody. I mean, there's some really really good therapists
- 1:08:41Speaker 5: out there. Me and Amy's met this one lady named Jane,
- 1:08:45Speaker 5: and uh, I was a real real bad boyfriend, just
- 1:08:49Speaker 5: not I just not. I just was. I can't. I
- 1:08:54Speaker 5: had no concern for Amy what made her happy. It
- 1:08:57Speaker 5: was about me what I wanted to do in the moment.
- 1:09:01Speaker 5: And man, I was selfish, so selfish, I'm why she
- 1:09:05Speaker 5: hung in there, but she did. But we met this
- 1:09:08Speaker 5: lame named Jane Man and James fixed it, fixed me,
- 1:09:13Speaker 5: fixed she fixed my ship.
- 1:09:15Speaker 6: Man.
- 1:09:15Speaker 5: She made me the man I wanted to be and
- 1:09:18Speaker 5: the husband I wanted to be. And we didn't meet,
- 1:09:21Speaker 5: and Amy would have never made it have we not
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: met Jane, you know. And I think I'd been through
- 1:09:25Speaker 5: therapy when I was a kid, and but I never
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: really believed in it like that until until we met Jane.
- 1:09:32Speaker 5: When Jane did what she did for me and my
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: wife and our relationship, she basically guaranteed me a happy
- 1:09:38Speaker 5: life in marriage, something I wanted but didn't know how
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: to obtain. And uh, ever since then, man, I've been
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: I've been a believer in it. If you if I
- 1:09:48Speaker 5: feel like I need to need a little tune up,
- 1:09:50Speaker 5: I call her up.
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: That's awesome.
- 1:09:53Speaker 4: Yeah, that's man. I appreciate your insight.
- 1:09:56Speaker 6: You have every reason in the world to kind of
- 1:09:57Speaker 6: have those defense mechanisms up or worrying because of you know,
- 1:10:01Speaker 6: all the experiences you've been through with Lucy and your mom,
- 1:10:03Speaker 6: your dad, the plane crash, like being a father, a husband,
- 1:10:07Speaker 6: all this stuff. So I love I think the insights
- 1:10:10Speaker 6: awesome here and we definitely appreciate you being so open
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: about and candid with everything like that was I could
- 1:10:17Speaker 6: you can, like Taylor said, you can definitely see the
- 1:10:19Speaker 6: passion and the emotion and everything behind what you're saying
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: with I know we're running out of time, but we
- 1:10:25Speaker 6: would be We would be terrible bosses to our to
- 1:10:30Speaker 6: our young little Zach who's listening behind the screen right now.
- 1:10:33Speaker 6: Who I You know, everybody is a huge day fan
- 1:10:36Speaker 6: in the racing room, but this man, Zach, he did
- 1:10:39Speaker 6: not sleep with this night, and I know he would.
- 1:10:43Speaker 6: We have to bring him on the same a couple
- 1:10:44Speaker 6: of times. Maybe ask about I racing or your Hall
- 1:10:46Speaker 6: of Fame. Nudge like he's all about it, bro Zach,
- 1:10:50Speaker 6: get on here, dud, Zach, let's go back.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, no, I appreciate you talking to me.
- 1:11:02Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: They I don't know if they hyped it up enough.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: But I'm a huge fan and I admire you a
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: lot for the person you are the racer that you are,
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: just your social presence, you as a business person. So yeah,
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: so it's it's an honor to finally meet you after
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: twenty years.
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: I guess I've been very nice. Yeah, that's real kind Zach,
- 1:11:20Speaker 5: thank you A question for him?
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I got a question or two for you.
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: And now I had to I had to really think
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: about this. It took me a while, but I guess
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: I started watching you, like I guess my younger like
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: teenager years, And that's kind of like when like Steve Latart, y'all,
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: you and Steve Watart got together. Yep. So do you
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: feel like you as a person or like you as
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: a racer?
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: Like do you feel.
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: Like like did he have an overall effect on you
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: as a person or a driver? I mean, I mean
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: you definitely started having success again. Yeah, five wins, thirty
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: six top tens or thirty six top Yeah, thirty six
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: top tens something or seventy four tops? Uh, you had
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: thirty six top fives. I mean, I like Steve with
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: tartle loot. I thought, y'are good together.
- 1:12:08Speaker 5: Steve was my crew chief in the last several years
- 1:12:14Speaker 5: of success that we had at a HINDRT Motorsports in
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: my career one day till five hundred and twenty fourteen, but uh,
- 1:12:21Speaker 5: probably about six seven races there and a short sp
- 1:12:23Speaker 5: spent of time, and then he went to broadcasting and
- 1:12:27Speaker 5: h I cried the moment that I heard that he
- 1:12:31Speaker 5: was going to leave at the end of the year.
- 1:12:33Speaker 5: I cried, a grown man, I think forty years old roughly,
- 1:12:39Speaker 5: and I called him and I was like, dude, this
- 1:12:41Speaker 5: rumor can't be true. And He's like, I do that.
- 1:12:43Speaker 5: Gotta be home, get more time with my kids. I
- 1:12:46Speaker 5: gotta do it. And I was like, but we're just
- 1:12:47Speaker 5: doing so good, how could you leave? But anyhow, we
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: became the best of friends and we still are today.
- 1:12:56Speaker 5: And he was one of the reasons, big reasons why
- 1:12:58Speaker 5: I went into broadcasting, because I because I get to
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: hang out with him again. I'm back in the booths
- 1:13:01Speaker 5: with my buddy. But Steve's approach to crew chiefing, he's
- 1:13:10Speaker 5: basically kind of like a coach. He was a cheerleader.
- 1:13:13Speaker 5: He's so there's a lot of ways that guys go
- 1:13:15Speaker 5: about this. When I raced with Tony Eury Sr. Early
- 1:13:18Speaker 5: in my career, we called him Rosie because his cheeks
- 1:13:21Speaker 5: were always red, and he was always mad, and he
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: would just chew your butt and uh, he hardly ever
- 1:13:28Speaker 5: praised you, but man, you can make a mistake, and
- 1:13:31Speaker 5: he was there on you. And he intimidated people right,
- 1:13:36Speaker 5: and he people wanted to bust their butts to not
- 1:13:39Speaker 5: get in trouble. That's why he ran his show and
- 1:13:43Speaker 5: it was effective. Steve A. Tart was the other way around,
- 1:13:47Speaker 5: or vastly different. He was a cheerleader. You know, we
- 1:13:50Speaker 5: run a good lap, he'd say that. He'd say, hey,
- 1:13:53Speaker 5: that's a great lap, keep going. Or if we were
- 1:13:56Speaker 5: having trouble that day, you know, he was always positive, man,
- 1:13:59Speaker 5: we're gonna turn this around. And he was one of
- 1:14:01Speaker 5: the first people. So most crew chiefs, most crew chiefs,
- 1:14:08Speaker 5: car owners, they believe that they have built you the
- 1:14:11Speaker 5: best car, and they believe that if it's not going well,
- 1:14:16Speaker 5: you need to change something. And that's pretty much how
- 1:14:19Speaker 5: most of the people approach it to the driver. They
- 1:14:22Speaker 5: put it on the driver, like, hey, man, what are
- 1:14:25Speaker 5: you doing wrong? And Steve A. Tart was the first
- 1:14:29Speaker 5: guy that ever told me after a race, we got
- 1:14:33Speaker 5: to get these cars better. I had never heard that
- 1:14:36Speaker 5: in my life, and he goes, Man, we just got
- 1:14:40Speaker 5: to get the car better. It's not good enough. I'm like, damn,
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: you saw that too. That is so nice to hear,
- 1:14:46Speaker 5: because you can't drive a slow car fast. I mean
- 1:14:49Speaker 5: it's a slow car. And so there's these moments where
- 1:14:52Speaker 5: you know, he just was so so good, and Dude,
- 1:14:57Speaker 5: I would get out of the car and I'd go
- 1:14:59Speaker 5: I I'd be like, man, that guy believes in me.
- 1:15:02Speaker 5: He believes I can do it. I'm coming back next
- 1:15:05Speaker 5: week and I'm gonna give him my best because he
- 1:15:07Speaker 5: believes in me. He thinks I can do this. And man,
- 1:15:10Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's so good. It's such you know,
- 1:15:13Speaker 5: he was just perfect, and uh, you know he he's
- 1:15:18Speaker 5: he's a great friend. We still communicate a lot. But man,
- 1:15:21Speaker 5: I'm glad you asked that question because I love praising
- 1:15:24Speaker 5: old Steve.
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: I enjoyed, like I enjoyed watching y'all.
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: And I think that announcement about him leaving came out
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: before the Daytona five hundred, So then y'all won the
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: Daytona five hundred, and that probably just made it all
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: the more special.
- 1:15:38Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny because he went into that final
- 1:15:41Speaker 5: season knowing that it was his last and he called
- 1:15:45Speaker 5: that whole season the strategy like a wild man. You know,
- 1:15:50Speaker 5: usually if you're nervous about making a mistake and losing
- 1:15:53Speaker 5: your job, you're very conservative. Well, he knew he wasn't
- 1:15:57Speaker 5: gonna be working there next year, so he called the
- 1:15:59Speaker 5: strategy for each race really aggressively, really loose, like, hey, man,
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: let's do it. Let's let's hey, let's put it out there.
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: We'll stay out here, we're not pitting, stay out there.
- 1:16:08Speaker 5: This might win, might not. We're doing it. And we won.
- 1:16:12Speaker 5: We won both of poke. Yeah, both Mark on this
- 1:16:17Speaker 5: wild strategy. He would have never did that strategy the
- 1:16:19Speaker 5: year before that, and he knew. He's like, hey, now care,
- 1:16:22Speaker 5: I'm not here next year, so let's go. And it
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: was awesome. Is that, dude?
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: Is that the year that you also ran out of
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: fuel in the last lap at Charlotte Charlotte?
- 1:16:32Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:16:32Speaker 5: I think been two thousand before. Yeah, no, I remember Heartbreaker.
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: I remember that you wanted to win the World six
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: hundred so bad, and last lap you're leading backstretch. I
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: think you run out of fuel and you're like, it
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: comes over the radio art, I'm out of fuel.
- 1:16:47Speaker 5: It hurt. Yeah, we did that. Remember at the Vegas
- 1:16:51Speaker 5: that happened to brack Yeah, almost one Vegas man.
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you can always look back like it's
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: so close.
- 1:16:58Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's no close though.
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say it's good to be close and
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: you look back on them. But it's been really cool
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: watching you out on I Racing too. I started I
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: racing back in November, and then all this has started
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: coming up now, so it's cool to see you back
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: out racing again.
- 1:17:11Speaker 5: I was on the service since so started in two
- 1:17:14Speaker 5: thousand and eight, but then I took like a seven
- 1:17:16Speaker 5: year break and I came back in November two. It's
- 1:17:18Speaker 5: me and you came back right about.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, okay, Yeah.
- 1:17:21Speaker 5: It's fun.
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: That't rocking. He's rocking up. Busting with a boy's car.
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. I can graphic design, so I love the
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: busting with the boys car.
- 1:17:29Speaker 5: I'm gonna make sure I put your name down and
- 1:17:32Speaker 5: so I can send you a friend requiest.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's go.
- 1:17:37Speaker 4: Let's get this the busting of the boy's car. Dude.
- 1:17:39Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to see this car. Anyways, I'll send
- 1:17:43Speaker 5: you one.
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: I got a picture of it right here because I
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: sent it to Will. Let's see, Will, what's crazy?
- 1:17:49Speaker 4: Zach?
- 1:17:50Speaker 3: That's crazy? You and Dale don't text me. That's wild.
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: Blows my mind, man, Taylor.
- 1:17:57Speaker 6: When you got off the phone, when you got off
- 1:17:59Speaker 6: the phone the other night, I forget what brought it up.
- 1:18:01Speaker 6: But Zach was sitting there and he was like, y'all
- 1:18:02Speaker 6: want to show you? Uh there they run like TV
- 1:18:05Speaker 6: like the iRacing thing looks like a legit NASCAR race
- 1:18:08Speaker 6: commentators are talking the whole time. He's got a full
- 1:18:11Speaker 6: on busting with the boys car like and it looks real.
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: It's crazy.
- 1:18:17Speaker 5: Which one are you?
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: I'm in the three car?
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:18:20Speaker 5: Oh boy, that looks good.
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: Let's see.
- 1:18:22Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all right, I like it.
- 1:18:26Speaker 4: I like that. Look at that.
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: I like that number font man.
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a throwback.
- 1:18:32Speaker 5: Yes you know.
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: Yeah, but no our race in the league and they've
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: got like commentators and everything. So yeah, no, I that
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: it's it's really cool.
- 1:18:41Speaker 5: It is fun. So I'm gonna be doing that here
- 1:18:44Speaker 5: in to be it. I got We're gonna run. There's
- 1:18:47Speaker 5: an indie race on ye yeah, this Saturday on nb CSN,
- 1:18:51Speaker 5: and I gotta go practice at three o'clock for that,
- 1:18:52Speaker 5: But I'm looking forward to it. IM a little nervous.
- 1:18:55Speaker 5: I haven't spent a lot of time in the Indy Car,
- 1:18:57Speaker 5: I know.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: Do you ever want to do the Indy Car double?
- 1:19:00Speaker 5: No, that's much work. Yeah, I'd be flying. You gotta fly,
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: you got you know, you've you gotta be in for
- 1:19:08Speaker 5: Indy for the eighty five hundred. You got to be
- 1:19:09Speaker 5: there all month, right, they got this whole thing right,
- 1:19:13Speaker 5: And not only do you got to practice and drive
- 1:19:14Speaker 5: the car, qualify race, but they have all the obligations, requirements, media,
- 1:19:20Speaker 5: fan engagement, all that stuff happened in all month long parade.
- 1:19:23Speaker 5: You got to be in all that stuff. Plus you
- 1:19:25Speaker 5: have it happening on the flip side at the Coke
- 1:19:27Speaker 5: six hundred, this whole thing during the whole weekend. I mean,
- 1:19:31Speaker 5: the back and forth. It's too much. I couldn't do it. Yeah,
- 1:19:34Speaker 5: yeah I will.
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: I remember watching Kurt Busch do it and then like
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: everything that he went through, and I think I think
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: Saysny like sponsored him and like flew him back and
- 1:19:42Speaker 2: he got like IV's as soon as he got done
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: with the Indy five hundred to get back to Charlotte.
- 1:19:47Speaker 5: As as grumpy as he is, I can't believe.
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's an interesting dude. But I I
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: really appreciate you like talking to me and like taking
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: my questions.
- 1:19:56Speaker 5: I guess the problem, buddy. I'll see you online, man.
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, that'd be awesome.
- 1:20:01Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm glad this have it because that
- 1:20:04Speaker 6: got to ask a lot of the good racing turn
- 1:20:07Speaker 6: it somewhat into the racing theme. But there we appreciate you.
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: Man.
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: You got to thank you very much for this conversation.
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
- 1:20:14Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 1:20:14Speaker 6: Whenever everything gets back to normal, will have to get
- 1:20:17Speaker 6: you on that bus, dude.
- 1:20:18Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna come to Nashville. We're gonna drink
- 1:20:20Speaker 5: some beers from running down the street, fool. We'll get
- 1:20:23Speaker 5: in the bus, we'll do a podcast.
- 1:20:25Speaker 6: I love it all right, all right, man, Hey, thank
- 1:20:28Speaker 6: you very much. Great.
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: Me and Exact will be there with coffees. I'll be
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: waiting for you to thank you very much.
- 1:20:39Speaker 5: May you take it easy, man,