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Jags Drive Time: Monday, December 10 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bars, did you don't Jack, Jack Morris? Did you
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Speaker 1: Jack Guari's Drive Time? Ryan Sex Text, John O Sage,
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Speaker 1: Ashley sa Jeguarres Drive Time starts right now. Man. They
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Speaker 1: had the same They had to play the same thing
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Speaker 1: we had. What I'm saying, they had Sunday and they
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Speaker 1: don't buy and all that. They just sat up the
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Speaker 1: play and we did. Good morning, Welcome to Jack's Drive Time,
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Speaker 1: brought to you by our friends at jed Home Loans.
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Speaker 1: How long ago does that? See? Age is Thursday, Thursday night,
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Speaker 1: early Friday morning. Seems like forever ago. However, you wake
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Speaker 1: up the morning with Jaguars are four and nine? Uh
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Speaker 1: and so plenty to talk about. First of all, um,
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Speaker 1: how is your weekend? Which we don't We normally stay
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Speaker 1: in here, we'd normally just get right at because we
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Speaker 1: were together all weekend, but not this weekend. It was
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Speaker 1: a couple of days off. It was great. Yeah, a
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Speaker 1: break from John. Yeah. Christmas shopping. Oh, now we understand
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Speaker 1: the reason for your gloom this morning. It's it's Christmas shopping.
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Speaker 1: It's bad out there, Brian, It's bad. Would it be
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Speaker 1: as bad if if you just went out and walked
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Speaker 1: around and didn't spend a time a right there you go,
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Speaker 1: that would be fun. It's really not bad out there,
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Speaker 1: it's bad in here. And found in the back pocket.
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Speaker 1: I was all over the app and they're just blow
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Speaker 1: after blow. It was, yeah, it was, it was, And
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Speaker 1: it's not done yet. It's it's never done. It's just
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, you think you've got in your
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Speaker 1: last bank of America, you know, and then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, like the twenty second, I'm going back out
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Speaker 1: for a few things. Okay, so it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: long line. I haven't even started yet. Good luck. All right,
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Speaker 1: Oh you went to New York? How was your weekend?
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Speaker 1: I did. It was a lot of fun. It was
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Speaker 1: very cold. I'm thankful to live in Florida. You've heard
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Speaker 1: your whole life right, Yes, And then I visited the
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Speaker 1: place and they say, wow, it all makes sense now,
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Speaker 1: well I am here. Can we make some sense of
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Speaker 1: this football team? We can attempt to. I thought at
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Speaker 1: the end of the night was very logical. A matter
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Speaker 1: of fact, I thought it was going to be a
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Speaker 1: bad night for the Jags going in. I worry about it.
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Speaker 1: Anything you'd be that bad. But the circumstances I thought
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Speaker 1: piled up to make that happen. We're gonna get there
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Speaker 1: in big things first though. Um, and remember we have
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Speaker 1: to do this. Who's your Exfinity player of the game.
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Speaker 1: I don't shoot the messenger on this. Uh, this is
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Speaker 1: a sponsored segment. Um. We've said that a lot this year,
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Speaker 1: which I guess happens to before nine. Ronnie Harrison his
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Speaker 1: first career pick. He's had two nice weeks in a row.
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Speaker 1: Petie Westbrook showed up again, Cody Kessler had a high
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Speaker 1: completion percentage. Or maybe there's someone else that's your Exfinity
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Speaker 1: player of the game. It's our Drive Time Bowl on
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Speaker 1: Twitter every Monday morning, and of course it will go
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Speaker 1: through the day and the Happy Hour will be included
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Speaker 1: this afternoon. All right, let's get the big things so
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Speaker 1: we can talk about the game. All right, Big thing
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Speaker 1: one is embarrassing. Trying to find something positive from this
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Speaker 1: game is pretty difficult. When you're looking at the game.
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Speaker 1: It guarantees a losing season. The best you can do
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Speaker 1: now is get seven wins. Sean Gibson in the locker
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Speaker 1: room after the game called the loss demoralizing, and he
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Speaker 1: said he wouldn't believe anyone watched past halftime. Jalen Ramsey said,
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Speaker 1: it's just sad. Is it embarrassing to be on national
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Speaker 1: teament how this happened? So, like I said, it's sad. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: are you still locked in? I mean yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: I had limited opportunities and they ran the bar. They
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Speaker 1: ran down episode of the game. It did scream. You know,
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Speaker 1: we didn't personally, didn't have a lot of opps um
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Speaker 1: to try to make a hand change of play. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it is what it is. I go out there, I'll
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Speaker 1: do what I can do. That's all I can do
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Speaker 1: is to be honest on So we said we started
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Speaker 1: on this right off the top of the show. The
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Speaker 1: circumstances weren't good. You have a team that was fighting
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Speaker 1: for the playoffs still um and a team that was
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Speaker 1: not and that rarely works out on the road, short week.
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Speaker 1: All those things factor in. This didn't have the the
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Speaker 1: odds in the Jaguars favor to begin with. I think
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Speaker 1: the thing that they caught most people off guard and
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Speaker 1: talking to folks over the weekend is how poorly the
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Speaker 1: defense play um coming off of a performance that we
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Speaker 1: said was maybe one of the best enfranchise history against
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Speaker 1: the Colts. Well, it was again circumstances pilot and saying
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Speaker 1: these things is in no way to say that that
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Speaker 1: what happened on Thursday nights should have happened or there
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Speaker 1: wasn't embarrassing that it wasn't you know, awful, But on
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Speaker 1: the road road team Thursday night out of the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Also coming off that game with the Colts, uh, it
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Speaker 1: just felt to me like it was going to be
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Speaker 1: a repeat of two thousand and sixteen when they went
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Speaker 1: up there and we're down what was it thirty two?
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Speaker 1: I mean it was it was twenty eight to nothing
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Speaker 1: at the happen right, it was equally bad. Um, Now
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Speaker 1: you can say, well the defense played well one week
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Speaker 1: and didn't play well the next. It also matches up
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Speaker 1: much better against the Colts than it does the Titans
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Speaker 1: in terms of going back to the beginning of last year,
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Speaker 1: it's always been a better defense against the past, and
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Speaker 1: it has been against the run. So it's not again
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Speaker 1: something like what happened on Thursday is always shocking and
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Speaker 1: embarrassing and all those things, But if it was going
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Speaker 1: to happen, it was more likely to happen against the Titans.
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Speaker 1: And the Colts and say, well they they were down
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Speaker 1: twenty nine nothing two weeks ago and into or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But that was more of an outlier, and that was
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Speaker 1: more some misassignments. They got run over on Thursday. And
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Speaker 1: if if this team is going to lose on defense,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be against a team that run over that
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Speaker 1: meaning Dallas, same sort of way where they can really
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Speaker 1: run the ball. So I wasn't surprised by it. Um
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Speaker 1: and perhaps that's not good. Here's someone equipped at me
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Speaker 1: in line at publics on Friday. We couldn't score. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars couldn't score from the Titans one yard line, but
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Speaker 1: they could. You know what comes up with that? And
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Speaker 1: if if you go look at the tape, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure people don't really want to look. The minute that
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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry bounced at the line of scrimmage, I looked
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Speaker 1: and saw a huge space to the outside, no one
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Speaker 1: there but a j boy, And sure enough he bounced
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Speaker 1: it outside. And look he's he when he gets ahead
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Speaker 1: of steam running downhill, No one he's going to get
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Speaker 1: in that guy's way. You gotta go low. They go low.
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Speaker 1: But that really wasn't the touchdown that got me. It
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Speaker 1: was the one right up the middle in the third
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Speaker 1: quarter where you would have thought Jaguars would have been
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Speaker 1: able to hold onto that. Those runs make it look
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Speaker 1: like they quipped, I said, make it look like After
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Speaker 1: the game, every in the locker room said, no quit,
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Speaker 1: no quit, no quit. There certainly was a lack of
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Speaker 1: enthusiasm for taking on that big body. That's December with
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Speaker 1: losing record. Um, that is that embodies what Thursday night was.
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Speaker 1: A team that is running out the string, that can
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Speaker 1: get embarrassing. You've got three games left. Um, I don't
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Speaker 1: expect the Redskins to be able to embarrass them, but
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Speaker 1: the other two teams can do it to you. Well.
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Speaker 1: Usually what you have when teams are out of it
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Speaker 1: is they sort of go in surges and fades. And
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Speaker 1: you had a surge against the Colts, you had a
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Speaker 1: huge fade against Tennessee. Um, they usually wind up playing
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Speaker 1: better at home teams are out of it than on
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Speaker 1: the road. And again, Clays Campbell is not one to
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Speaker 1: make excuses, But when you've been around the league for
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Speaker 1: ten eleven years like Clays has, you know what Thursday
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Speaker 1: night is, and you know what it is on the road,
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Speaker 1: and uh, there. They are usually outlier games. You do
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Speaker 1: see blowouts. None of this is meant to make an
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Speaker 1: an excuse, but it happens in professional football, especially when
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Speaker 1: teams are out of it. Is that quitting, is that effort?
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I did. I did
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Speaker 1: expect over the course of say six games, they were
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Speaker 1: looking at where they were going to be out of it, right,
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Speaker 1: because it basically ended with a loss in Buffalo and
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Speaker 1: there were six games left, you figured out of those
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Speaker 1: six there's probably gonna be two real stinkers where it
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Speaker 1: looks bad, bad bad. Thursday was one, and that doesn't
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Speaker 1: address the overarching issue of why are you here? Is
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Speaker 1: this good enough? And all that? But I expect probably
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Speaker 1: one of those last two games will be the same.
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Speaker 1: They get a Red Kids team on Sunday. That's gonna
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Speaker 1: start Josh Jackson. I'm Sarry Johnson at whoever, the guy who,
8:47
Speaker 1: by the way, hasn't started since Wayne Weaver Road did
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Speaker 1: this team right? Jack de Real was the head coach
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Speaker 1: the last time that Josh Johnson started a football game
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Speaker 1: that he was playing in a charity basketball tournament last
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Speaker 1: week when the Redskins called um so you think all right, Well,
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Speaker 1: you can go and handle that um. But the question
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Speaker 1: remains how you can score, because that's the part of it.
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Speaker 1: The last what ten quarters, they have one touchdown, two
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Speaker 1: field goals in the safety. Yeah, and and since they
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Speaker 1: made the change, they have been worse on offense than
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Speaker 1: they were before. Frankly, they've had one touchdown since they
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Speaker 1: made the change, and the touchdown didn't matter. Well's be honest,
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Speaker 1: we knew that the change was going to do nothing.
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Speaker 1: It was window dressing, right. You couldn't expect Cody Kessler
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Speaker 1: and Scott Milanovitch to go in and deal with all
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Speaker 1: the injuries. I'll go back wide receiver, tight end, left tackle, right,
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Speaker 1: left guard, center, running back. It's just think we're gonna change.
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Speaker 1: But you expected to be worse and it's been. I
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Speaker 1: didn't expect you to be better. They've had basically in
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Speaker 1: at any points. The day they were down thirty two
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Speaker 1: where they scored and and uh, two of the eight
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Speaker 1: points came on a safety. So you've had two field goals.
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Speaker 1: Not good enough, not good enough, which brings us, by
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Speaker 1: the way, to another part of where December goes for
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Speaker 1: teams like this. Yes, the big thing too, is rumors.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the CBS Sports article that report that
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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin to me that the next head coach of
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now, we're not sure that this is
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Speaker 1: speculation or not, or if this is actually being talked about,
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Speaker 1: but one thing is for sure, these speculations aren't going
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Speaker 1: to end. This is just the start of it. It's
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Speaker 1: something we're gonna be talking about for months, and there'll
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Speaker 1: be more and more speculations like this to come, for sure.
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Speaker 1: Well and more importantly, UM, this is what you deal with.
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Speaker 1: Everyone starts talking about are your trading Jalen Ramsey? Are
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Speaker 1: you firing Doug Moroned? Is Tom Coughlin making a play?
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Speaker 1: I was not surprised at all to see this headline
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Speaker 1: pop up yesterday, Not at all. And buckle up. There
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Speaker 1: will be more of those things and the hard part
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Speaker 1: will be for people to filter through them. And see,
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Speaker 1: you said we'll be talking about it for months. We
10:52
Speaker 1: will be talking about this for a month. This is
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Speaker 1: going to be this will be uh decided, will be
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Speaker 1: done quickly, end of the sea and over with well.
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Speaker 1: And I have no idea if tomall be the head
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Speaker 1: coach or not it um, but this article itself shouldn't
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Speaker 1: even be looked at as a piece of journalism, and
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Speaker 1: I don't think Jason wrote it that way. It was
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Speaker 1: I forget what the phrasing was, but speculation growing or
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Speaker 1: growing that he could Yeah, but the words used, this
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Speaker 1: wasn't even a story. The way it was written didn't
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Speaker 1: indicate that he had talked to anybody. It was basically
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Speaker 1: growing feeling. I mean, he's sitting in the press box
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Speaker 1: wherever he is yesterday and they're talking about could Coughlan
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Speaker 1: con do this? Right? That's that's essentially what happens, and
11:41
Speaker 1: that's what I get that you get it. Um, there's
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Speaker 1: not much. There's not a whole lot of credence to
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Speaker 1: this particular report because the bottom line and all this
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Speaker 1: is there's only one guy who has any idea what's
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Speaker 1: going to happen. Even as far as the Blake stuff,
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Speaker 1: which again was reported last week that Blake Boards won't
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Speaker 1: be back. Um, I don't think he'll be back. I've
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Speaker 1: been saying since he got bench that he wouldn't be back.
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Speaker 1: But you don't know any of these things because the
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Speaker 1: reality is you don't know what SHOT's gonna decide about,
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Speaker 1: who's making the calls, and that goes down to and
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Speaker 1: Tom would be the first one to tell you, Look,
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Speaker 1: until Shod says this is what's happening, these are who's
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Speaker 1: making the decisions. All the decisions below that can't get
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Speaker 1: made either. So the people here in charge can say
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Speaker 1: here's what I would do. But until Shod says this
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Speaker 1: is how we're going forward, maybe he's already done that.
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Speaker 1: That's not out yet, is my point. Again. Asked this
12:41
Speaker 1: question by a neighbor yesterday, would they consider making a
12:45
Speaker 1: coaching change a year after Doug Moron comes in and
12:48
Speaker 1: takes the team to the AFC Championship Game? Would they?
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Speaker 1: And the only thing he says, well, yeah, sure, I
12:53
Speaker 1: mean if if you if they would lose out, if
12:55
Speaker 1: they lose these final three and have a four game
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Speaker 1: losing streak, if they win one of their starting three
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Speaker 1: and one and then finishing four and twelve, sure they
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Speaker 1: would consider anything at this point. That's what happens when
13:08
Speaker 1: you have a season like this. Everything gets considered, Everything
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Speaker 1: becomes a possibility. Absolutely everything. Someone said, you know, would
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Speaker 1: Tom do that? Could Tom do it? Would he coach? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Could he coach? Yeah? No, problem doesn't mean he's going
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Speaker 1: to Uh So, when you see things like this and
13:23
Speaker 1: this is this is a journalism lesson. When you and
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Speaker 1: I first started in this, this didn't exist, the Internet,
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Speaker 1: Twitter didn't exist. It was printed in the paper, it
13:32
Speaker 1: was set on TV or on the radio, and there
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Speaker 1: was accountability for it because John Osian reported or Brian
13:39
Speaker 1: Sexton reported. Um. Now today and this started almost remember
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Speaker 1: when Pete Priscoe went to CBS and all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden his his stories became a combination between a story
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Speaker 1: and a column. There was opinion based in that. Now
13:55
Speaker 1: today it's almost you just throw it against the wall
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Speaker 1: and see what sticks. And that's what that was. It's
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Speaker 1: not journalism in any way. And so a journalism rule
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Speaker 1: that you learn, whether you're at the University of Florida
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Speaker 1: or the University of campus is number one, consider the source. Right,
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Speaker 1: there are no sources cited in there at all. Just
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Speaker 1: understand that from the beginning. Am I saying it's not
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Speaker 1: gonna happen, No, because I don't know, but that's it's
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Speaker 1: my headlines down. Very little in this in terms of
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Speaker 1: speculation will matter until Shad says, until there's a release.
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Speaker 1: This is what the hierarchy is going to be The
14:36
Speaker 1: Bortle stuff makes perfect sense, But so much of what's
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Speaker 1: being reported now is Okay, I see this, this is
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Speaker 1: what's happened in other organizations. Here's what probably will happen.
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Speaker 1: But what did we say about it? In fact, I
14:48
Speaker 1: said to you after they benched him, it feels as
14:51
Speaker 1: if it feels as if he's done in Jacksonville. I
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Speaker 1: didn't say he's done. He won't be back. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I've asked some people will he be back. I've gotten
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Speaker 1: no reply that tells me he won't. I don't think
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Speaker 1: he will. Like you, it feels as if his fear
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Speaker 1: has done yet. But I can't go on and type
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Speaker 1: up a story. I can do on my own personal
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Speaker 1: Twitter right, do the same thing that Jason lockin Ford
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are talking about, like Bordle's future right, really
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Speaker 1: wide broad terms speculation is they'll let him go and
15:21
Speaker 1: designate him a post you and all that. I could
15:23
Speaker 1: look at the cap I could, I could come to
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Speaker 1: conclusions and draw them. That's where we all are these days.
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Speaker 1: And the sad part is is that we're giving credence
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Speaker 1: to it because we're still talking about it. They'll do
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Speaker 1: it on sports radio all day. Twitter will be all day.
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Speaker 1: This thing can take on a fire of its own,
15:38
Speaker 1: one of those cave fires that doesn't burn out for months,
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Speaker 1: and so many of them. Remember is you can talk
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Speaker 1: about it, and even people in the building can have
15:49
Speaker 1: opinions on what they think will happen. But the way
15:54
Speaker 1: these things usually work is you talk about it. You
15:57
Speaker 1: talk about it on on a team plane. The high
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Speaker 1: are absolutely yeah, maybe this until there's a meeting after
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Speaker 1: the season, and then there are meetings for two weeks
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Speaker 1: after the season where they say, Okay, here's what we're
16:08
Speaker 1: gonna do. This is what we're gonna do. Okay, this
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Speaker 1: is the final thing. There are still decisions to be made.
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Speaker 1: Very little will be set in stone until the final
16:19
Speaker 1: gun goes off in Houston. Gun all right, big thing
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Speaker 1: three is January. So with all those rumors that we
16:27
Speaker 1: just addressed, we know one thing is for sure and
16:29
Speaker 1: that is change is coming. So therefore you have to
16:31
Speaker 1: take advantage of these last three games being with this
16:34
Speaker 1: team that we all know. Khlias Campbell addressed that in
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Speaker 1: the locker room after the game, trying to stick together
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Speaker 1: and keep fighting. You know, we got you know this,
16:44
Speaker 1: this family, the rebuilt the show has three games left together,
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Speaker 1: right and three games left to go all and I
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Speaker 1: never year it's gonna be changed. So we're never gonna
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Speaker 1: get anywhere, you know, but we have the final way
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Speaker 1: keep fighting and save together, and we're going on for
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Speaker 1: one another, just just for respect, just for the love
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Speaker 1: of the Dame. I hate to say that I'm disinterested
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Speaker 1: in the final three games. Um, I'm not all that
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Speaker 1: interested in in them. I'm more interested in how this
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Speaker 1: plays out. Um. I found myself yesterday. Here's how I
17:16
Speaker 1: knew that I was slightly disinterested. I'm looking at the
17:20
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Niners and the Jets all winning and thinking,
17:23
Speaker 1: how does that impact the Jaguars draft position? Right? Um?
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Speaker 1: You know when they beat the Colts, they you know,
17:28
Speaker 1: they look like they will be on the cusp at
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Speaker 1: the top ten. Now, you know, sitting at four and nine,
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Speaker 1: which is only one game off of the three games
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Speaker 1: that the Jets, the Cardinals. I'm sorry, the Cardinals, the
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Speaker 1: Niners and the Raiders have could they could they get
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Speaker 1: to the top three? I don't think so. Um, I
17:46
Speaker 1: don't think a draft position already. Well, it's I don't
17:50
Speaker 1: know if it's bad, it just is well, and you know,
17:55
Speaker 1: take on a different tone. Now, the the energy whatever,
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Speaker 1: um the right word is of the Thursday night game
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Speaker 1: is over. You thought maybe after the Colts, you know,
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Speaker 1: I thought Thursday would be bad. But the only thing
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Speaker 1: that gave you hope that it might not be was, well,
18:13
Speaker 1: maybe this defense is it is just gonna take these
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Speaker 1: last five games and show this is what we are.
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Speaker 1: But I didn't have so they said they were going
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Speaker 1: to well I said that was their hope to keep
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Speaker 1: them all together. Um, so now you're looking at you're
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Speaker 1: playing a Redskins team that's out of it. Uh, You're
18:32
Speaker 1: you're playing a Texans team or it looks like things
18:36
Speaker 1: are going to be decided. There's a good chance will
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Speaker 1: be decided. So there's just not much left and you're
18:41
Speaker 1: you're into the holidays. I'll be wearing a Santa Had
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Speaker 1: at some point. So it's it's, uh, you've reached that
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18:53
Speaker 1: looking to what's going to be said after the season.
18:56
Speaker 1: You wonder if Shot I'll say something before the end
18:58
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18:59
Speaker 1: of years act. Uh. If he decides what the direction
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Speaker 1: But that's the that's the key point now because that's
19:12
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19:14
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Speaker 1: Monday morning, Ryan, Ashlyn, John, Joe, Max, the whole crew
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Speaker 1: here with you. That's straight up nine o'clock Eastern time.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you being with us on a Monday. And we've
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Speaker 1: got a couple of highlights from last Thursday's games. A couple, Yeah,
21:25
Speaker 1: just a few. I think that's all we need to see.
21:27
Speaker 1: Surprise when I sent you the email, your stings that
21:28
Speaker 1: do we want to do highlights? You're like, yeah, we
21:30
Speaker 1: gotta call highlights. Okay, a few. All right, let's go
21:34
Speaker 1: to the middle of the first quarter. And someone who
21:36
Speaker 1: has impressed us big time the past two games is
21:39
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison making a huge play in the first quarter
21:41
Speaker 1: when the game was still undecided. Yeah, and that's obviously
21:50
Speaker 1: the wrong one. Um, as Max find the one from Ronnie.
21:54
Speaker 1: I'll say that talking to the players in the locker
21:57
Speaker 1: room about Ronnie Harrison, UM is to fully appreciate just
22:01
Speaker 1: how good they think he's going to be because those
22:04
Speaker 1: guys have a lot of confidence in him. They they've
22:07
Speaker 1: seen it from him since he arrived. They talked about
22:08
Speaker 1: a guy who kind of felt like he belonged from
22:10
Speaker 1: the beginning, but all of a sudden now the swagger
22:13
Speaker 1: that he's playing with fat there, the understanding of what
22:15
Speaker 1: he's doing tells you a lot about him. Yeah. He
22:19
Speaker 1: he's showing, uh why rookies ascend in their second year
22:25
Speaker 1: because he's playing very well as he comes in now,
22:28
Speaker 1: but he's also still making rookie mistakes. He got beat
22:31
Speaker 1: where he had to grab for the inference the other night,
22:34
Speaker 1: and he had the penalty against the Colts. So you
22:39
Speaker 1: can see mistakes that he's making. That are the things
22:44
Speaker 1: that always concerned coaches about rookies. And I'm not saying
22:46
Speaker 1: that as a Chris hasn't him. It's what rookies go through.
22:49
Speaker 1: But far more importantly than that than that, is that
22:53
Speaker 1: you're seeing an incredible amount of athletic ability to go
22:57
Speaker 1: along with size. That all the things that you look
23:01
Speaker 1: forward to make you think a guy can be a
23:02
Speaker 1: big time player, you're seeing in him and the things
23:05
Speaker 1: that we're talking about, and that when Dougs asked about
23:08
Speaker 1: him this week, he'll praise him, and then he'll also
23:10
Speaker 1: talk about some of the mistakes that he's made. All
23:12
Speaker 1: those mistakes, so far from what I'm saying, are things
23:15
Speaker 1: that can easily go away once he gets that second
23:18
Speaker 1: year veteran feel for the game. You don't worry about
23:20
Speaker 1: those things. He looks like he's a real fine well
23:23
Speaker 1: and you feel good about it. Because Barrick Church wasn't
23:25
Speaker 1: even dressed the other nine. Clearly he has a six
23:28
Speaker 1: million dollar cap figure next year. He won't see that.
23:30
Speaker 1: It allows the Jaguars to clear off a little bit
23:32
Speaker 1: of cap space there, but they have a guy that
23:34
Speaker 1: looks like a long term solution there, third round pick.
23:37
Speaker 1: If you go up all right, let's go to the
23:39
Speaker 1: second quarter, you're in seven place from the seven yard
23:42
Speaker 1: line and the red zone. You came up with no points.
23:44
Speaker 1: Then obviously we know what happened to play after that
23:47
Speaker 1: Derrick Kenny yard touchdown run. It was the turning point
23:50
Speaker 1: of the game and they're handed for not a chat
23:57
Speaker 1: by a Titan defense Rashaan Fenders the first got through
24:03
Speaker 1: and got him, and that I mean just standing on
24:05
Speaker 1: the sideline. Slynn, you were there too. Uh, that was
24:07
Speaker 1: the moment, Doug said afterwards. The game was over at
24:09
Speaker 1: that point. I mean it was the dagger in the heart.
24:12
Speaker 1: You don't go in with a chance to go up
24:14
Speaker 1: nine to seven. Instead you're down thirteen to two after
24:17
Speaker 1: they missed the extra point. It was a huge emotional
24:19
Speaker 1: swing and you I don't want to say quit, but
24:22
Speaker 1: you could see the deflation on the jag board sideline.
24:24
Speaker 1: They knew how embarrassing that was. Deflation is a much
24:28
Speaker 1: better word for this thing. Quick. I really don't believe
24:32
Speaker 1: the jag was necessarily quit. But if you get one
24:35
Speaker 1: or two guys who were deflated, which I guess could
24:37
Speaker 1: be translated as quit at that moment. Uh, then you
24:41
Speaker 1: get plays like you saw what the Henry play. I
24:43
Speaker 1: got a lot of emails over the weekend. Uh, why
24:46
Speaker 1: did they go forward here? Why didn't they take points? Um?
24:50
Speaker 1: Because you're four and eight on the road Thursday night,
24:53
Speaker 1: short week, often struggles and a couple of things of
24:57
Speaker 1: legitimate reasons, why you go for it? They had been
25:01
Speaker 1: very good in this situation in the two games where
25:04
Speaker 1: Leonard Fornett had been playing against Pittsburgh and Buffalo, they
25:08
Speaker 1: had driven it in inside the tent. So among all
25:12
Speaker 1: the things over the last two months, if you wanted
25:16
Speaker 1: to make a list of things they had been good at,
25:19
Speaker 1: it's a pretty short list. But that was one of
25:22
Speaker 1: them that they had been doing well. So, Uh, if
25:25
Speaker 1: you're trying to grasp it's some sort of of an
25:28
Speaker 1: identity of what you are, of what you think you're
25:30
Speaker 1: doing well, of what you can go with. Um going
25:34
Speaker 1: into that game, if it if you had said, hey,
25:40
Speaker 1: they're on the three yard line with with two downs
25:44
Speaker 1: to do it, wouldn't you have said, well, they should
25:45
Speaker 1: run Leonard for net twice? I mean, so I didn't
25:48
Speaker 1: have a problem with that with going forward in that situation, Um,
25:52
Speaker 1: because it felt at that point like it was going
25:55
Speaker 1: to be a game where points were scarce, So getting
25:59
Speaker 1: up nine evan at that point, I do think it
26:01
Speaker 1: would have you know, made a small difference. This wouldn't
26:05
Speaker 1: have one, but it made a small difference. And I
26:06
Speaker 1: think it's an important point. Um, quit is a voluntary thing.
26:11
Speaker 1: It's a conscious decision. I didn't see that of deflation
26:15
Speaker 1: right where you just you lose that enthusiasm that is
26:19
Speaker 1: that's almost involuntary. I'm just telling you the sideline you
26:22
Speaker 1: could just after that play, Um the ninety nine yards
26:27
Speaker 1: and I turned to accidentally went, that's an NFL record,
26:29
Speaker 1: tied Tony Dorset's NFL record. That's she went, thanks genius. Yeah,
26:35
Speaker 1: why did you know it? I did not know? And
26:37
Speaker 1: did I say Tony Dorset against Minnesota. But deflation all
26:41
Speaker 1: on part right totally. But I'm dealing with someone here
26:45
Speaker 1: who's three and wasn't alive when it was seven. Yeah, John,
26:49
Speaker 1: did you see the original play? I did. Yeah, I
26:51
Speaker 1: saw it on a black and white TV on Green Willow.
26:53
Speaker 1: Line said against the bike, I watched it. Skins won
26:57
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? They yeah, okay, anything else yes, one more.
27:01
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler sacked four times for forty five yards in
27:05
Speaker 1: the top light start and the loss to the Titans
27:09
Speaker 1: offensive line and not play well. So let's go to
27:11
Speaker 1: the third quarter and see that bill to really generate
27:15
Speaker 1: much scoring this year. Let Kessler brawlers out right now.
27:21
Speaker 1: It's rolled a fumble and the Titans got on top
27:24
Speaker 1: of it. So here's the here's the deflation right up.
27:27
Speaker 1: You don't get them on fourth down and Derrick Henry
27:31
Speaker 1: goes yards. You turn the ball over the very next play,
27:34
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry goes what fifty two yard, fifty four yards? Whatever?
27:38
Speaker 1: It was? Um, the bang bang play. And that showed you,
27:43
Speaker 1: Jarl Case, he was just in the backfield all night.
27:45
Speaker 1: Well and you saw there. It was I hate to
27:51
Speaker 1: say microcosm of the season every time you see a
27:53
Speaker 1: bad play, but here's a case where Kessler literally couldn't
27:58
Speaker 1: even get his foot in the ground to turn round.
28:00
Speaker 1: And you've got I think it was Flowers turned around
28:04
Speaker 1: trying to pick him up. And you've got chat. You've
28:06
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys who they didn't think we're
28:09
Speaker 1: going to be starting. Um, we have two guys that
28:11
Speaker 1: started the year on the Giants rosterm so and absolutely
28:17
Speaker 1: Katie Barr the door before you didn't even turn around.
28:19
Speaker 1: So uh again, they've scored eight points that matter in
28:26
Speaker 1: three games or in two games. All Right, we will
28:29
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28:31
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Speaker 1: Before we get into ozone snapshot, we're going to talk
30:29
Speaker 1: about the Jaguars nationwide Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee,
30:33
Speaker 1: and that is quarterback Blake Bortles. Now, despite everything that
30:36
Speaker 1: we've said about Blake Bortles on the field, we all
30:38
Speaker 1: can agree that if there were fifty three Blake Boardles
30:41
Speaker 1: on your roster that it would be a good team
30:43
Speaker 1: to be around. Nuts for sure, Yes, as a person,
30:45
Speaker 1: he's fantastic and his foundation the Blake Bortles Foundation supports
30:49
Speaker 1: first responders and the developmental lee disabled. So let's see
30:53
Speaker 1: what he has to say about his foundation. The areas
30:56
Speaker 1: in need that my foundation supports are our first responders,
31:00
Speaker 1: so cops, firefighters, UM, paramedics, and then also we do
31:03
Speaker 1: a lot with with mentally disabled UM, so kind of
31:06
Speaker 1: the arc here has won locally that that we support.
31:09
Speaker 1: UM it's a it's a living facility. And then also
31:11
Speaker 1: back home, there's there's a Challenger League that I was
31:14
Speaker 1: involved in growing up and throughout high school. So those
31:17
Speaker 1: are those are two, um, the two things that that
31:19
Speaker 1: my foundation supports. And we talked about starting the foundation
31:22
Speaker 1: and being able to be uh you know, kind of
31:24
Speaker 1: active in the community and doing different things, and the
31:26
Speaker 1: two areas that I really wanted to focus on we're
31:29
Speaker 1: you know, mentally disabled in first responders, and both of
31:32
Speaker 1: those um, you know categories had big impacts on my life,
31:35
Speaker 1: you know, growing up playing football and ovido. All of
31:37
Speaker 1: our coaches where firefighters were cops, so those were you
31:40
Speaker 1: know a lot of mentors to me. And then I
31:41
Speaker 1: got involved at a young age with the thing called
31:43
Speaker 1: the Challenger Football League back in my hometown. UM and
31:46
Speaker 1: created some great relationships and said, you know, if I
31:48
Speaker 1: forget the opportunity to help people out, you know that
31:51
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna help out. Good dude. A
31:55
Speaker 1: lot of people in this building the cheer for him
31:57
Speaker 1: personally for the things that he does. I'm one of them.
31:59
Speaker 1: I just I've always enjoyed him. Um. By the way,
32:03
Speaker 1: have you seen J. J. Watt The patch that he
32:05
Speaker 1: wears on his jersey. It's it's the the man of
32:08
Speaker 1: the year that it's Walter Payton. I guess in a
32:11
Speaker 1: in a long coat. Uh. If I was an NFL player,
32:15
Speaker 1: that's the patch I'd want that. It's very distinctive. It's
32:18
Speaker 1: very subtle, but it says great player, great person. Yeah.
32:22
Speaker 1: When I was with the Colts, paid Manning one that No.
32:26
Speaker 1: Six o seven I think we what year it was,
32:29
Speaker 1: but it was clear out of everything that he won
32:32
Speaker 1: in his career that that was up there among the
32:35
Speaker 1: ones that matter. A great deal. One thing about Blake
32:38
Speaker 1: that um, I think most people realize, but that I
32:43
Speaker 1: guessed to be restated. For him to be as involved
32:47
Speaker 1: and as good in the communities as he's been can't
32:53
Speaker 1: have always been easy because it's not like the criticism
32:57
Speaker 1: of him and the you know, the jokes and all
33:01
Speaker 1: the stuff that you hear around Blake. The noise just
33:04
Speaker 1: started in the last two months. It's it's really been
33:06
Speaker 1: going on since he was a rookie. Um, A lot
33:09
Speaker 1: of guys in his situation could have easily gone into
33:13
Speaker 1: a cocoon just coming in here and played quarterback. Uh
33:17
Speaker 1: gone home, come in every He has managed to shut
33:22
Speaker 1: out a lot of that and still been a major
33:25
Speaker 1: factor in the community while a lot of noise and
33:27
Speaker 1: a lot of bad things have been going on around
33:30
Speaker 1: in terms of people saying things about him. So credit
33:33
Speaker 1: to him for making something that can have always been
33:37
Speaker 1: easy look easy because you always said, I mean, I
33:40
Speaker 1: think Blake everybody always says, ohways a great guy. Nobody
33:43
Speaker 1: cares about that. Well, Um, it's not always easy to
33:47
Speaker 1: be a great guy when you know people are criticizing
33:50
Speaker 1: what you're doing on the field, etcetera, etcetera. So I
33:53
Speaker 1: think I credit to him to be a Man of
33:55
Speaker 1: the Year after candidate, after everything that he's gone through
33:58
Speaker 1: and through criticism off on the yield is impressive, impressive
34:04
Speaker 1: and it does mattery. People do care about that for sure, alright.
34:08
Speaker 1: Uh time for snapshot. All right, let's go to Mark
34:11
Speaker 1: from Archer, Florida. I recently read an article that stated
34:14
Speaker 1: there is a growing chance that Tom Coughlin is going
34:16
Speaker 1: to take over as coach for the Jags. Next cut
34:19
Speaker 1: you off? Good? Are you talked? I mean, we've are
34:21
Speaker 1: you going over this topic? Growing chance? Growing chance is
34:25
Speaker 1: the one that I love, Ryan, A growing chance there
34:27
Speaker 1: was a growing chance to one pent is growing. Since
34:31
Speaker 1: we've already done this, I'll bring up a different topic. Um.
34:37
Speaker 1: I got incredible number emails this week about should they
34:41
Speaker 1: trade Jalen Ramsey? It is he a problem? And I
34:46
Speaker 1: think it stems from a lot of the same thing
34:49
Speaker 1: that this Tom cough An article. There was some story
34:53
Speaker 1: or or something where somebody was talking about Jalen Ramsey
34:55
Speaker 1: over the weekend. I guess it was Pro Football Talk.
34:58
Speaker 1: Took his quotes after that ain't totally out of context, Um,
35:01
Speaker 1: because they weren't there. You were. Did you have any
35:07
Speaker 1: problem with anything? He said, nothing? Right, nothing. Let me
35:09
Speaker 1: take a step further. And he wasn't throwing his teammates
35:12
Speaker 1: under the bus and those things. If you listen to him,
35:14
Speaker 1: he was trying, I thought, and I wasn't there for
35:17
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But I think I missed one of
35:18
Speaker 1: his questions. Um. I thought he was trying to be
35:22
Speaker 1: as stand up as he could and answer questions honestly,
35:27
Speaker 1: and I in no way thought that he was trying
35:31
Speaker 1: to shine the light on himself. Uh. And for that,
35:36
Speaker 1: I understand the internet age we live in that people
35:38
Speaker 1: take quotes and it gets aggregated it and it's like
35:40
Speaker 1: the game you know, sure well spot it up where
35:44
Speaker 1: you whisper in your friends here and all of a
35:45
Speaker 1: sudden comes out the other thing on the other side. Um.
35:48
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was that at all, And I
35:51
Speaker 1: thought that Jaalen in the last month has moved very
35:54
Speaker 1: far away from that to where I don't think he's
35:57
Speaker 1: an issue. I've been beating that drum, you know, about
35:59
Speaker 1: how professional he's been and how I've seen it. Um.
36:02
Speaker 1: So when I saw that Pro Football Talk had done that,
36:05
Speaker 1: I thought, whoa, whoa, WHOA. Did I get this wrong?
36:07
Speaker 1: Because if you recall in my quick thoughts, my last
36:10
Speaker 1: quick thought was about Jalen uh and how I thought
36:13
Speaker 1: that he had quietly throughout the course of the game.
36:16
Speaker 1: You know, further, that narrative that we've had about how
36:19
Speaker 1: he's grown, so he um was miked up during the game,
36:24
Speaker 1: and I had the chance to hear him talk okay,
36:28
Speaker 1: at a much greater level than I normally do with
36:30
Speaker 1: just him behind the bench. And I'm telling you, I
36:32
Speaker 1: was impressed with the way that he dealt with his teammates,
36:36
Speaker 1: with the circumstances with his coaches. When I read the
36:40
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk thing all, I wanted to fire off
36:42
Speaker 1: a tweet. I decided not to because they would just
36:44
Speaker 1: hit with it while you work for the team nonsense.
36:47
Speaker 1: But the reality of it was they got it out.
36:48
Speaker 1: They got it wrong. Jalen Ramsey. I wouldn't trade him
36:51
Speaker 1: at all. Great player who appears to be growing and
36:54
Speaker 1: maturing in the locker room and into a And I
36:58
Speaker 1: hate the word leadership because everyone wants to do the
36:59
Speaker 1: leadership like it's raw rock college football with it. It's not.
37:03
Speaker 1: But you talked about lead by example, man, he does it,
37:06
Speaker 1: does it at least he has the last month. He
37:09
Speaker 1: has come a long way since that really rotten Sunday
37:12
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, where on the field and on the bench
37:15
Speaker 1: he was a paint nonsense. Yeah, I think everyone will
37:17
Speaker 1: be impressed if they go to Jaguars dot Com and
37:19
Speaker 1: watch that because I was impressed watching it. And then
37:21
Speaker 1: you go back to Pro Football Talk, and it's hard
37:24
Speaker 1: to taken into context when you're not standing there in
37:27
Speaker 1: the locker room after a loss. Weil and so the
37:29
Speaker 1: other thing is Todd wash comes and puts his arm
37:32
Speaker 1: around him late in the ball game and talk to
37:34
Speaker 1: him about how impressed he was with the way that
37:37
Speaker 1: he handled himself, and he could see the way he
37:39
Speaker 1: interacted with his teammates. Um, if they watched that Pro
37:43
Speaker 1: Football talkle offer a retraction, let's hope. So all right,
37:48
Speaker 1: let's go to Jeff from Jacksonville. What are your thoughts
37:51
Speaker 1: John on the Jack's possibly trading their first round pick
37:54
Speaker 1: to a rebuilding team for a first round of their
37:56
Speaker 1: following season and maybe a lower pick the end game
38:00
Speaker 1: to put yourself in a position to get to h
38:02
Speaker 1: or Murray. I think this will give a team that
38:04
Speaker 1: AMMO to possibly trade up and get one of them. Yeah,
38:07
Speaker 1: and quite the situation we're here now where it's gonna
38:11
Speaker 1: be draft talk. Uh, that's sort of the reason I
38:16
Speaker 1: chose this. And I'm getting draft questions all the time,
38:18
Speaker 1: which I won't use very many of them. Mental life
38:20
Speaker 1: of the season. Um, that question, those sort of implies
38:25
Speaker 1: that they would be waiting for two thousand twenty. I
38:30
Speaker 1: don't think this franchise is going to be in a
38:35
Speaker 1: wait and try to build for the future kind of
38:38
Speaker 1: thing to the degree. And I got into everybody's head
38:42
Speaker 1: because that's what they did in two thousand and twelve thirteen.
38:44
Speaker 1: If you remember, Ah, there was a much more measured
38:48
Speaker 1: approach of saying, well, it's okay, we'll build for three
38:52
Speaker 1: or four years down the road. I don't think they're
38:55
Speaker 1: going to I don't think the temperature of the organization
38:59
Speaker 1: will be that they take that kind of approach. I
39:02
Speaker 1: have no idea what they're doing in the draft next year.
39:03
Speaker 1: I get that, but I don't think it's going to
39:05
Speaker 1: be well, let's tear down a lot and then build
39:09
Speaker 1: for something way out in the future. Uh. That just
39:12
Speaker 1: doesn't feel to me like something that they're gonna want
39:14
Speaker 1: to do after what happened with it last time. We
39:16
Speaker 1: not talk about how Calais Campbell belongs here next year
39:19
Speaker 1: with his salary the way that it is, not even
39:22
Speaker 1: don't even bother redoing it. He's worth the money. Why
39:24
Speaker 1: would you pay him or Marcel. Why would you pay
39:27
Speaker 1: some of these big dollar contracts to Shawn Gibson if
39:30
Speaker 1: you keep him around If you're not going to win
39:32
Speaker 1: right away? What why say, well, we're not, we're rebuilding
39:36
Speaker 1: and pay this. If you're rebuilding, you you tear it
39:38
Speaker 1: down and you clear salary cap room right away. So
39:41
Speaker 1: you go find a veteran quarterback to bridge until your
39:45
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to use him as an example, Uh is
39:48
Speaker 1: ready to go? No, there's yeah, you're you're not thinking
39:51
Speaker 1: about you're thinking about nineteen and the do they remember that?
39:55
Speaker 1: Is as silly as that might sound, Oh you're four
39:58
Speaker 1: and nine. Uh, it's not like they've gotten blown out.
40:02
Speaker 1: I mean I think when this a franchise looks at
40:06
Speaker 1: what to do next, they will with reason look at
40:11
Speaker 1: all the offensive injuries, look at everything that happened, and
40:16
Speaker 1: still look at how close this team was to being
40:20
Speaker 1: seven and six, eight and five. And I'm not talking
40:22
Speaker 1: about fooling themselves into into thinking certain things don't need
40:26
Speaker 1: to happen. But I also don't think they need to
40:30
Speaker 1: look at it and say, oh, my goodness, were so
40:32
Speaker 1: far away that we couldn't possibly compete. If it's Tom
40:36
Speaker 1: Coughlin at the top, which I still believe it is.
40:40
Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna come in and say, Brian,
40:42
Speaker 1: we're a long way away and we're gonna build one.
40:47
Speaker 1: I don't think he's by the way. You know, you're
40:48
Speaker 1: talking about a man who's in his early seventies, but
40:50
Speaker 1: he can't be thinking long term at that point in time.
40:53
Speaker 1: You're thinking about right now. He didn't think long term.
40:56
Speaker 1: Say I said that Tom was never a long term
40:59
Speaker 1: He's a coach. He's in a new role, but coaches
41:02
Speaker 1: think about today. It's the general managers. The day he
41:04
Speaker 1: was ticked off when they were ow in two and
41:06
Speaker 1: when they had no talent. So I mean, I'll never forget.
41:10
Speaker 1: After they lost the opening game to the Houston Oilers,
41:12
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not a patient man, but you just
41:14
Speaker 1: took an expansion job. You better be patient. That's not
41:18
Speaker 1: who it's not who he is. And as long as
41:20
Speaker 1: he's sitting at the top. But I'll say it again,
41:23
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about and skipping over, there's no reason
41:26
Speaker 1: to keep the high dollar guys on defense, right. You'll
41:29
Speaker 1: know very quickly if those guys are coming back, they're
41:32
Speaker 1: not looking at twenty jobs. Because why I spend the
41:34
Speaker 1: money is that it one more good Old James. Remind
41:39
Speaker 1: me again what the leaders are on this team, and
41:41
Speaker 1: is it possible Paul pas Lesnie had such a big
41:43
Speaker 1: impact on this team, both as a leader and his
41:45
Speaker 1: ability to motivate someone like Kelvin Smith that he is
41:48
Speaker 1: so very missed. Yeah, and parts of this resonate a
41:54
Speaker 1: little bit. But Paul didn't motivate Telvin Smith. Tell was
41:58
Speaker 1: probably capable of motivating self. Uh. I think there are
42:02
Speaker 1: elements of of positive miss. I think these elements of
42:05
Speaker 1: Mercedes that are miss. I think an overall losing those
42:09
Speaker 1: two guys certainly didn't help, um, But I don't believe
42:14
Speaker 1: that if they had, if they had resigned or being
42:19
Speaker 1: able to draw Paul pause lessni back, I don't think
42:22
Speaker 1: the outcome of this season is dramatically different. I don't
42:24
Speaker 1: think he's a offensive guard. I mean, so catch the
42:28
Speaker 1: ball now? Would the run defense have been better in
42:34
Speaker 1: that situation? Is he a better run stuffing player? Sure? Uh,
42:38
Speaker 1: in situation like that it might help. But um, there's
42:42
Speaker 1: been sort of a narrative of boy, if they had
42:45
Speaker 1: had paused all these miscommunications on defense, wouldn't have happened
42:48
Speaker 1: he played of place last year. He was not calling
42:51
Speaker 1: the defense there. There was a standard that he said
42:55
Speaker 1: that I think other players naturally try to live up
42:57
Speaker 1: to that I think would have helped, but it wouldn't
43:00
Speaker 1: have been the difference between four and nine and in playoffs. No,
43:03
Speaker 1: and you still have Kilis here who represents the highest
43:05
Speaker 1: virtues and values of a locker room that Paul did.
43:08
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Speaker 1: t A. Bank Field UH one final home game Sunday
45:04
Speaker 1: against the Redskins, and then they finished on the road
45:06
Speaker 1: in Miami and in Houston. A couple headlines from we
45:10
Speaker 1: are on the National Football League yesterday, here's a big one,
45:13
Speaker 1: UH and it's probably no surprise to anybody who follows
45:16
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, but Aaron Rodgers set an NFL record yesterday
45:21
Speaker 1: when he passed Tom Brady with his hold on and
45:25
Speaker 1: fifty nine consecutive passed without an interception. He nearly gave
45:30
Speaker 1: it away six plays later. I mean he hit the
45:32
Speaker 1: defensive back right in the chest. He throws so hard
45:35
Speaker 1: the guy couldn't hold on. Finished with the three consecutive
45:39
Speaker 1: passes without an interception in today's day and age. Amazing.
45:45
Speaker 1: And there's some criticism of him up there that he
45:49
Speaker 1: should be taking more chances, but that's what you're gonna
45:51
Speaker 1: get when you're four and seven and your quarterback hasn't
45:52
Speaker 1: done an interception in eight years. By the way, he
45:54
Speaker 1: is now first in NFL history in touchdown to interception ratio,
45:58
Speaker 1: one of the all time rights. Up next, another one
46:02
Speaker 1: of the old time greats, and he caught Jerry Rice.
46:05
Speaker 1: This one caught me off guard because it said that
46:06
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald catches Rice. He caught one of his records in
46:10
Speaker 1: his fifteenth season with the Cardinals. Hard to remember, you know,
46:13
Speaker 1: hard to forget just how great a player. Let me
46:16
Speaker 1: say that a gay. Sometimes we forget what a great
46:19
Speaker 1: player he is because he's played out there in Arizona
46:21
Speaker 1: the last few years without a quarterback. But he passed
46:25
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice for the most catches with one team. Jerry
46:29
Speaker 1: had one thousand, two d eighty one catches with the
46:32
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners before finishing his career with the Raiders.
46:36
Speaker 1: And yesterday, uh, Fitzgerald caught his one thousand, two hundred
46:41
Speaker 1: eighty second pass. So he got one of Jerry Rice's records.
46:45
Speaker 1: And that's significant because do you want to jump in here. Well,
46:48
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell Ashley Jerry Rice was a wide receiver.
46:51
Speaker 1: Wasn't the Widers most records? When you see Jerry Rice,
46:56
Speaker 1: I think there's no way anyone's catching that right his
46:59
Speaker 1: catch number. Wrote this down to make sure I had
47:01
Speaker 1: it right. He is number one in NFL history with
47:04
Speaker 1: one thousand, five hundred and forty nine catches. Think about that,
47:08
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is three hundred roughly three hundred behind him in
47:13
Speaker 1: his NFL season, So you think that's not gonna happen.
47:16
Speaker 1: A number of yards all times six thousand on catching
47:22
Speaker 1: him right, and how often did these guys come along?
47:25
Speaker 1: You'll I don't think you'll ever see those records go down. Well,
47:29
Speaker 1: somebody will break right eventually because the game is changing
47:35
Speaker 1: so much. But what's striking about Rice is in his
47:40
Speaker 1: first five, six seven years, the NFL was not yet
47:44
Speaker 1: the passing league it is now. Although the Niners were
47:48
Speaker 1: always ahead of the curve right then, were not set
47:52
Speaker 1: up to be like it is now. The biggest thing
47:55
Speaker 1: with Rice is somebody will have to want to play
47:58
Speaker 1: that long, uh, and be able to play that long
48:01
Speaker 1: and take care of himself to play that long, because
48:03
Speaker 1: he had four or five years after he should have
48:06
Speaker 1: been done where he was still piling up numbers have
48:09
Speaker 1: to catch. You think Randy Moss at a time, there
48:12
Speaker 1: was a moment where it looked like he but he didn't.
48:15
Speaker 1: You know, he's been out of the game a long
48:16
Speaker 1: time already, so I don't know I'd be surprised by
48:19
Speaker 1: the way he played at Mississippi Valley State. So don't
48:22
Speaker 1: let anybody tell you you have to play at Florida
48:24
Speaker 1: or Alabama to have a successful career. Hall of Famer,
48:26
Speaker 1: one of the greats to come out of Mississippi Valley State.
48:30
Speaker 1: And I'll do it for Monday morning, UH, following an
48:34
Speaker 1: off weekend after the Thursday night loss. UH. Jackson Redskins
48:38
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday final home game. Of course, we'll be
48:40
Speaker 1: here all week. John will join us on Wednesday and Friday.
48:43
Speaker 1: Bat'll lew it for Jags drive time. Thanks to Joe
48:45
Speaker 1: and Max. Have a great day, everybody.