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Cody Campbell vs. Brett Yormark, Final 4 final thoughts, Eugene Rapay talks Cyclones, Audi leaving, Pollards message and more · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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  Friday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network
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  back at it for the next block of a six hour programming.
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  Thanks for starting your afternoon with us.
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  Trent Condon and Ken Miller will take you until 2:00.
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  Here's what's coming up on our program at the bottom of the
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  hour, 12:30 or thereabouts, our friend Eugene Repay who covers
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  Iowa State for the Des Moines Register.
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  He will join us. We'll do women's basketball, the
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  men as well as there's a couple of openings on TJ.
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  Also Burger, your staff will do football with Eugene repay
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  Cyclone related topics coming up here at 12:30.
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  One o'clock Tom Kakert from hawkeyereport.com.
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  Ben McCullum got a commit yesterday, a former Creighton
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  player is going to be a Hawkeye. We'll do football, basketball,
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  women's basketball, etcetera, with Tom Kakert coming up at
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  1:00. And then we'll head to Las Vegas
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  and catch up with the VP of operations at Circa Sports.
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  Mike Palm will join us. We'll talk about all the women's
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  Final Four tonight, the men, obviously tomorrow, circus.
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  Now that number on the opening game, Illinois, UConn, it was 2
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  1/2 yesterday on to 1 1/2 as the UConn money comes pouring in.
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  So we'll talk to Mike Palm, well that and other subjects when he
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  joins us at 1:30. Trent's plays of the day coming
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  up about 1:50 or thereabouts. Circus sports sponsor those.
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  And then we'll make wade off the bench with Sean and Lucas as
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  they take you until 5:00. Kind of a light night.
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  Sports related last night, a couple of basketball games.
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  Creighton was victorious and as Greg McDermott tries to go out a
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  winner, we certainly love to see that.
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  Auburn. How about Auburn continued to
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  advance in the NIT? That was one of the teams that
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  certainly created the most, I don't know, blowback blowhards
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  blowing back one in particular when it came to Auburn being
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  left out of the tournament. But they're holding their own,
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  to say the least in the NIT. Not that it matters very much,
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  but anyways, basketball down the stretch they caught, boy, it's
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  weaning couple of days at college hoops.
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  Thursday, Sunday night, you'll get Tulsa, Auburn for the
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  championship. You're going to be locked and
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  loaded for that one. The baseball game is what?
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  Didn't we just say it was a Detroit and someone, we talked
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  about it early in the week. Cardinals.
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  Yeah. Cardinals, right?
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  Cardinals and the Tigers. But that's Peacock.
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  But we do have Peacock on our DIRECTV.
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  We think, we think we did we during college basketball.
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  Yes, we found it. So that would make it a whole
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  lot easier, right? Yeah, I'll probably dip my toe
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  into it just because it's like I said, there's after, after that
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  game on Sunday night. There's one game left, right.
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  And then we'll turn our attention to Augusta and the
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  Masters as they put a tee in the ground and get things going
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  underway on Thursday. So might have had a little
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  vacation that my wife Cindy and I took to Folly Beach, SC We
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  drove and we drove through to and from Folly Beach, through
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  Augusta. OK.
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  And I guess they didn't know what to expect because I heard
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  it's such a small, dinky little town.
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  Nothing there, no hotels. You really can't stay there.
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  I must have been in a different Augusta, GA because what I found
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  was kind of like, I, I don't know, comparison population wise
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  because I didn't see any of that, you know, the residential
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  streets, but kind of like a like an Ankeney, OK.
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  Like a bunch of, you know, Hampton Inns and Hilton Garden
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  Inns and a bunch of, I saw the Hooters, the famous Hooters
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  where John Daley would be holding court on signing
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  autographs because he, I guess they can't do that on the
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  grounds or whatever. So not allowed.
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  No, but it was, it's beautiful. Well, I mean, you could see, you
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  know, the, just the, the trees, etcetera.
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  And obviously the gusta Nashville was on a, a tree
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  nursery that way back in the day.
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  That's what that was. But yeah, I just, as I got
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  closer to it, I realized what we're going to be going through.
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  It kind of got a little pumped up, was one of the not the
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  highlights of the trip, but highlights of the drive anyways.
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  You didn't get to go in. No, we could have gone, got off
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  and and found it because there were signs, you know, Augusta
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  turn left. But no, I had no desire to do
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  that. I got something I think might
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  make you a little bit excited because I'm gonna guess you
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  haven't taken a look at the leader board for this week in
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  San Antonio. No, not at all.
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  Is at the top of the. Board, I hope Ricky Fowler.
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  It's not Ricky Fowler. Okay, who is it?
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  It's our guy, Bobby Mack. Is he playing well?
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  We. Are going to have the better the
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  price when we got him at 50 to 1.
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  I don't think that's going to be available.
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  In fact, I looked before the week began on Thursday.
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  He was 30 something to 1. I saw, yes, I saw that too.
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  I looked as well. And you know, I pulled, I pulled
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  one of your plays. I don't know, a month ago or so.
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  I bet him in every major. You did.
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  Yes, because he's going to win one.
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  And Bobby Mack is to golf with the Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Los Angeles Chargers are to football for me.
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  I will. There will never be a major or
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  there will never be an NFL Super Bowl if one of these teams gets
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  there that I don't have a winning ticket on the Chargers
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  or the Bungles or Bobby Mack in a major.
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  He is in good form, good, playing great this week.
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  Yeah, He's 29 years old. Trent I.
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  It feels like it's the time. It does.
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  And and when I when I thought because you were the one that
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  got me on it. And when I when I think back to
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  his success, he's on the a leaderboard a lot.
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  Yes, he. Is.
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  I mean, not all of them, obviously very few are, but
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  we'll, we'll see where it goes. But yeah, I've got Bobby Mack
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  and you can't bet Scheffler. You can't bet Scheffler.
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  And because he's been so inconsistent too, right?
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  I mean you couple the price with just the is.
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  It going up at all because of his inconsistencies or because
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  of his name, people are going to bet him a little.
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  Bit but you're not getting true odds, you're not getting fair
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  odds for certainly the form that he is showing at this point in
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  time. And boy, I know this is the one
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  major for a lot of people. I mean, there's just in
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  comparison to a lot of the other, most of the other sports
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  we talk about like we don't get into real niche stuff until it
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  really happens, right? And I know golf is the one that,
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  but the Masters, I know for a lot of people it is different.
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  It is. It's that one tournament that
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  absolutely brings you in springtime, yes.
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  It's just that. Right the the the rite of
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  spring, right you go in there, you come off the final four, you
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  go right in winter. Sports are in the in the
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  rearview mirror. Let's get to summer and.
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  Wouldn't it be great a week later if we had the NCAA
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  wrestling tournament? It would be.
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  It would be. It's out of sight, out of mind.
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  You know and. You're going to bang that drop
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  every every opportunity you get. And the pushback I get from the
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  wrestling community is the international calendar makes it
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  difficult, but not impossible. And about growing your sport.
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  And we look around college athletics and I was reading an
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  article last night that was just talking about more and more
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  programs being cut at the Division One level and and what
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  this new future is going to look like because of the money.
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  And obviously the only thing that really makes money is
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  football and men's basketball to a different degree.
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  But I mean, it came up with Iowa State women's basketball because
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  they get good crowds. Yes, yes, very good crowd and
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  always have we go. Not always, but certainly the
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  last couple of decades. We go back to the Iowa women,
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  their back-to-back runs to a national championship.
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  They lost money both those years.
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  They had a sellout in Caitlin Clark senior year and they lost
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  money. That is just a what TV money and
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  how important that is. And that leads us into Cody
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  Campbell. Yeah, Trent.
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  We talked about it yesterday, but it it just, it still drives
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  me more nuts, I think the further removed I am from the
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  beginning of it. Texas Tech has never had to play
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  a Friday game. Never.
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  They're one of two. I think Iowa State's never had
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  to play a Friday game. When they signed the contract,
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  did they know that this could be a a possibility?
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  Of course they did. Well, and here's this
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  billionaire idiot that thinks he knows more than everybody.
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  That thinks your mark answers to him.
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  Did you see the toy? Yes, absolutely.
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  I don't answer to you. You answer to me.
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  You're 1 of ex schools in how many?
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  16 in the In the Big 12, You're you're you know what?
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  And he's not an athletic director.
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  No, he's the head of the regions and he's the head of the regions
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  for one reason. He's got the most money, right?
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  And he spends his money and he's a former player.
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  And I cannot for the life of me went the Texas Tech fans think
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  that they've they gets their heads have just gotten so damn
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  big that they ruled the roost. We are now the bully of the Big
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  12. You had a great year in
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  football. You got a great basketball
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  program, OK Arizona State's pretty good right in football
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  there. We anticipate BYU's not going
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  anywhere in football in basketball as they continue to
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  spend. Cody Campbell get out of the
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  way, cash the checks. You're not Texas, you're not
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  Texas. And I know that drives them
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  nuts, but quit flexing they've made.
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  One appearance all time in the Big 12 Championship.
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  Game. There you go, right?
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  Iowa State has more appearances we can go through.
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  Missouri has more appearances. Missouri hasn't been there for
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  15 years. Just I I'm right there with you.
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  It drives me crazy when. I saw that yesterday, Trent.
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  I I legitimately got angry. That's why I brought it up in
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  the show yesterday, just because you know what it, I don't think
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  that it's going to come to this, but it did start.
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  It did ultimately end up like this when Texas started beating
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  the war drums prior to when they made their move.
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  I'll never forget. I say it all the time.
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  If you're new to the show, I'm glad you are.
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  If you don't have to apologize, I'm about to say it again. 2009
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  or 10 or whatever year it was. I left work on Friday with Matt
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  Perlton. I left work on Friday thinking
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  we come back on Monday. The conference is dead.
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  Everybody thought that, Everybody thought that.
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  And ultimately, somehow miraculously, well, I think it
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  had to do a lot with the Longhorn Network and the fact
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  that that got shot down. But it's they're starting to
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  bang the war drums and you don't have the power to do that.
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  You're in the Big 12 conference. Be happy.
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  There's nothing, there's nothing negative about that.
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  Be happy. Of course, you're not the SEC,
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  you're the Big 10, But you're more than treading water.
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  They have an opportunity to take control of the conference
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  because they have more money than everybody else.
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  But these kind of things to take these little nits and be picking
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  at them because you have to play on a Friday night.
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  Trenton looks awful for Texas Tech.
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  Texas Tech? Who's the most despised fan base
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  in the Big 12? Would it be Utah?
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  Utah the way that they. They came in and we're better
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  than everybody else. And we're just, we're only here.
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  Didn't Winningham say we're not going to be here long?
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  And I'm paraphrasing. We, we, we, we'll be, we'll be,
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  we'll be out of here before, you know what type of thing.
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  And and they were very quickly anointed as the fan base that
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  everybody hates. But now Texas Tech, maybe they
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  want that. Maybe they want to be known as
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  the the, the bullies of the Big 12.
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  Or you're not. You're not you're.
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  There's another adjective that describes what you are.
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  There's some religious bigots out there that don't like BYU,
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  right? That's a part of it too.
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  There's that part of it and a little what religion phobia that
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  guess that jumps in there. But overall, definitely Utah the
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  way that they came. But Texas Tech is making
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  themselves the hated team they are.
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  And when you're acting like this?
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  And very quickly made themselves in the last 48 hours and.
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  Cody Campbell So he says, if I you allow me to pull all the
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  conferences together are to get triple the money from TV if we
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  do it the way that I want. And he's working with Congress
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  to make it happen. And he's going to try to make
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  this because he's going to do it.
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  Guess what? You're going to have to play
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  Friday games in order to get that revenue that you're talking
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  about. You're not going to play all the
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  games on Saturday, Cody. It's not going to happen.
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  You're not going to get triple the money and the only window
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  possible is Saturday games, right?
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  Grow up your. Mark needs Friday, the Big 12
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  needs Friday. The Big 12 is going to get way
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  more exposure on a Friday than than being one of the multitude
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  of games on Saturday where if you're a fan of that team, of
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  course you're going to watch that at the expense of watching
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  a, you know, a big Big 10 game or a big SEC game.
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  But on Friday night, you're the only game.
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  Yeah, you're the only game. And if you want, if you're a
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  college football fan, people are going to watch rooting interest
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  or not. I don't get it it, I don't get
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  it. What is CBS doing?
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  By the way, have you seen this story?
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  What's that that CBS and I think this is great for us as sports
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  fans. CBS is apparently this is the
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  rumor from was it Oran or front office sports.
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  One of those CBSTNTTBS are going to potentially and I say
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  potentially form a ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN News, ESPN.
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  What all the officer, President Mark, kind of kind of venture?
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  Well, it makes sense after the sale of all that together.
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  And now they're all under one umbrella as we move closer and
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  closer to oligarchs across our country, Cody Campbell among
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  them, as more and more the rich get richer and we consolidate
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  all these different things. And it's in the grand scheme of
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  things, not a great thing for, I think almost everybody in our
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  listening audience. But it is our reality that we're
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  getting closer and closer to. And you couple that with that.
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  Now, does that work? You got some things, but did you
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  flip over to TBS to watch a college basketball game this
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  year during the regular season? Once.
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  I saw Arizona, Arizona State, that's the only one that I can
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  pick. Up it was a it was a marquee
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  game and I did and I couldn't find it.
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  Yes. And then ultimately I searched
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  on exit and did find it, but no, I didn't.
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  I didn't didn't realize that they were there for the longest
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  time. Habits change.
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  I understand that. The way we view television
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  certainly is changing and and that's going to be a piece of
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  it, too. Do you like it?
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  I mean, I I didn't see the report so.
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  Yeah, I, I mean, it's very preliminary at this point, but
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  the fact that CBSCBS Sports Network, HQTNTTBS and TRU TV are
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  all under the same umbrella, might that be a viable option
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  for parking sports content? We shall see.
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  We'll see where it goes. One other thing before we get
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  into the final four, Nick Feldo, did you hear him going off on
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  Tiger Woods? Well, did you see the video?
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  The camera. What is it the the police?
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  Video. Oh, no, I didn't see it.
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  Oh, it is rough. Is it?
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  I've seen the still photos of him in the lock up.
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  Yes, yeah, yeah. And him in the back of the car.
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  I did not see the video. I'll send those to you.
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  It is sad, It's, it's sad. He's leaned up against the dash
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  of the. Just completely out of his mind,
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  has no idea where he is. And he had two opioids.
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  I don't know if they're Percocet, they're Vicodin or
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  whatever this du jour is, but yeah, this Nick Faldo just went
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  off on Tiger and good for Nick Faldo.
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  There's very few, very few that have the resume and the cachet
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  and the backing, the respect amongst the industry to do that.
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  It's not like Phil Mickelson because he couldn't do it.
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  Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods, they were rivals.
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  I don't know if Phil would have wanted to say anything or not.
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  He's not going to be at the Masters either.
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  But Nick Felder went absolutely off on him and I think it was
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  great to see. Will Tiger get it?
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  Is this the final wake up call? Is he headed down a path and no
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  return? I mean, Trent, his reputation
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  and how people saw Tiger Woods as the one of the greats.
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  I'm not saying what he did on the court.
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  Everybody saw what he did on the course.
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  He's he's the best, in my opinion, the best to ever play
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  the game, My opinion. But now and the opinions of
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  Tiger and some of the skeletons that have kind of been, you
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  know, glossed over in that proverbial closet of his are
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  starting to re emerge. I don't know.
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  I don't think so. I mean, have we heard about him
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  going right to a rehab? We did.
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  He did, apparently, But you know where he went to rehab in
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  Europe. You know why he's concerned
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  about his privacy? Didn't we just hear that same
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  thing when he was asked about why aren't you getting a driver,
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  Tiger? You have billions of dollars.
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  I'm concerned about my privacy. And is it real?
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  Who knows? Does the masters need to come
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  out and say something? Would they come out and say
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  something? I don't.
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  Think they have to. He's not playing.
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  He's not going to be at the Champions dinner.
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  Oh, he's not. Well, he's over apparently in
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  Europe. So you're right.
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  I would think he's. I would hope that he stays
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  there. You're right and if most rehabs
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  are not done in a. Week.
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  No. If you are, you didn't take it
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  real serious. It's going to come.
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  Back on top of it, he told one of the officers that he called
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  the president. Try to get out of it, I guess.
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  Yeah. Trump.
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  Yeah, that's what Tiger was doing on the phone.
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  Apparently not his lawyer, no. Call the president.
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  Do you think that's a guy that is, you know what, I made a big
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  mistake here, or let's see if I could go to the top and see if I
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  could get out of this one. I'm going to call the president.
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  And and that's been that's been confirmed.
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  New York Post Tiger Woods boasted to cop he called
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  President Trump before DUI arrest, body Cam video reveals.
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  Really. But they they don't have him
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  actually on the phone. There is a still picture I saw
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  of him on his phone. Yeah, but I saw that picture.
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  I had no idea who he was talking to.
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  And who knows? He looked very hopped up on
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  goofballs at that point. Well, he clearly was.
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  Yes, he clearly was. All right, let's get into the
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  final four, which begins tonight with the women.
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  Yes, absolutely. I'm excited for it.
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  Too I am too Yukon. I just.
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  Want to see these teams actually play somebody else, right?
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  That's on their level. And you had competitive games
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  without a doubt. And I think we have four
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  competitive teams. As I said yesterday, I was
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  surprised. I, I just anticipated that UConn
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  was going to be a double digit favor over everybody, everybody
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  in this event. Now any not UCLA, it has gone
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  up. It was 6 1/2.
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  Where are we now? It's 7 1/2 now.
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  So it's ticking up we're. Yes.
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  So we're getting the steam that is coming in and you would
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  anticipate that. I mean, women's basketball in
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  comparison to the men, it's probably more of a late arriving
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  running crowd that's going to be involved in this one so well.
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  They're playing a brand, Trent, they.
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  Absolutely are. But it's also a brand that they
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  throttled last year. It's a brand that South Carolina
• 18:17
  has some losses this year. They're playing great at this
• 18:20
  point. They they really are, but it's
• 18:24
  still hard for me to come up with a path for the South
• 18:27
  Carolina team to beat UConn outside of UConn just not
• 18:30
  shooting the ball. And that goes every basketball
• 18:33
  game. Short of that, though, it is
• 18:35
  difficult to see a way that this happens, how you can envision
• 18:38
  this UConn team that nobody has been able to push.
• 18:41
  I mean, their game against Notre Dame was 18, and that's about as
• 18:45
  close as anybody has been against him throughout the
• 18:47
  course of the year. They are on a different level.
• 18:49
  They are absolutely stacked up and down the roster.
• 18:52
  You just look at these. Oh yeah, I remember that name.
• 18:53
  I remember that. Oh yeah, that was a five star.
• 18:56
  That was a McDonald's All American.
• 18:57
  That's what their roster is. It feels like that.
• 18:59
  Little down tick of UConn women's basketball is behind us
• 19:03
  now, right that. That this has been the team that
• 19:06
  Geno has been building towards and of course he would love to
• 19:08
  breakthrough last year and and get it done a season ago.
• 19:11
  But it feels like this is the group and they are still, in my
• 19:14
  mind, heads and shoulders above the rest.
• 19:16
  So regardless of who comes out of the other game, Texas and
• 19:19
  UCLA and that games, Texas is a slight favorite over UCLA and
• 19:23
  UCLA is a really good team as we know first hand watching.
• 19:27
  I would get destroyed as they did in the Big 10 championship
• 19:31
  game. The Iowa women look at 2 good
• 19:33
  games. I don't other than UConn being
• 19:36
  UConn, I don't have too much to to add to it other than I can't
• 19:41
  wait to watch it tonight. It's going to be pretty good TV
• 19:43
  though. Most of the baseball today is
• 19:45
  day baseball because there's so many teams that are opening day
• 19:49
  that they've been on the road for a week and now they finally
• 19:52
  get home and they finally get their opportunity to stage their
• 19:55
  opening day. So that's going to be great.
• 19:57
  I think the men's turn the men as we Fast forward to tomorrow.
• 20:03
  I'm totally clueless. I'm totally clueless.
• 20:06
  I've I have. Worked my way in circles in this
• 20:08
  both of these games. You have have has there been an
• 20:11
  occasion where at some point during the week you've liked all
• 20:13
  four teams? Yes, absolutely.
• 20:15
  Not me too. Yes.
• 20:16
  And and I've even come up with the times where I'm like, you
• 20:18
  know what, Maybe it's not a foregone conclusion that
• 20:21
  Illinois or UConn, whoever comes out there can push that team.
• 20:25
  Arizona or Michigan on the other side that that's not a foregone
• 20:28
  conclusion that we're going to get a game on Monday night.
• 20:30
  I've talked myself into that at different points, but then they
• 20:33
  come right back. Michigan, Arizona still do feel
• 20:36
  like on a different. Level they do.
• 20:38
  You know, if this was my take last night and it probably
• 20:41
  changed tonight. Full disclosure, if Michigan
• 20:46
  struggles to shoot threes, Arizona will win the basketball
• 20:51
  game. There.
• 20:53
  Simple as that. Yep, on the other the early game
• 20:59
  not the warm up back not. Fair.
• 21:00
  No, not at all. That's a great game.
• 21:02
  It's a great game. I can't I've I've come around to
• 21:06
  thinking I can't bet against. Danny Hurley, 17 and one ATS in
• 21:13
  the Sweet 16 or later in his career.
• 21:15
  He's just ripped off win after win after win when he gets to
• 21:19
  this point. Even last year, when they of
• 21:20
  course didn't get to this moment, remember, they pushed
• 21:23
  the defending. They championed Florida.
• 21:25
  To the break. They did in the round of 32.
• 21:27
  They had them on the ropes and. That was a that was a phenomenal
• 21:31
  game. Forgot about that.
• 21:32
  Yes, yes, yes, yes. One of the few games that
• 21:35
  Florida was lucky to get past the lead eight against Texas
• 21:38
  Tech, where Texas Tech blew The Big Lead in that one, the Auburn
• 21:41
  game as well. And of course, the national
• 21:42
  championship came down to the wires.
• 21:43
  So that was 1 though too. Hurley in March against
• 21:48
  Underwood there for the first time.
• 21:49
  I did see something today as Illinois was taking the practice
• 21:52
  floor. Which was 11:00, right?
• 21:54
  A lot of orange in the stands for that.
• 21:58
  One, I saw the breakdown of tickets, by the way, breaking
• 22:01
  news apparently, and I don't know why it took so long for him
• 22:04
  to say it, but Tommy Lloyd is apparently staying at Arizona.
• 22:07
  I just got a text alert and I just checked the Google machine
• 22:11
  and it's all over that. He is staying at Arizona.
• 22:15
  Yeah, a lot of orange in the stands, like 49% of the tickets.
• 22:19
  And Tony Hangen will get to you in just a second. 49% of the
• 22:23
  tickets have been snapped up by Illinois fans.
• 22:26
  I don't know. I said I sit here at 12:22 on
• 22:29
  Friday, subject to change. I think it's Yukon and Arizona.
• 22:34
  Yukon and Arizona I. Think, I think that's the match
• 22:36
  up. Your Illinois ticket would be up
• 22:38
  in smoke. I'm going to cash out.
• 22:40
  You're getting cash out. I'm just going to cash out.
• 22:41
  What are they offering you, 13 to 1?
• 22:44
  13 to 1. I got 80 to 1, You got 80 to 1.
• 22:48
  I don't think they'll win tomorrow.
• 22:49
  Yeah. And if they win tomorrow, I
• 22:50
  don't think they'll win on Friday.
• 22:52
  On Monday. I don't know if that's the right
• 22:54
  thing. I haven't done it yet.
• 22:58
  Do a little math. Let me do some back of the
• 22:59
  envelope here all. Right, let's take Tony, then
• 23:01
  we'll get a break. We'll get Eugene repay on Iowa
• 23:04
  State. Tony, thank you for being
• 23:05
  patient. Tony, how are you?
• 23:08
  I'm doing good. Enjoy the show, gentlemen.
• 23:10
  Well done. Thank you.
• 23:11
  Don't mean don't mean to double back, but I don't remember where
• 23:15
  I heard it. But as we all know, President
• 23:17
  Trump does love to tweet. And he did tweet out that Tiger
• 23:21
  did call him. He did confirm, confirm that he
• 23:25
  did call him. Now, I don't know if he got
• 23:27
  through to him, right. He thought it was a missed call,
• 23:29
  but he did tweet out that Tiger did give him a call.
• 23:32
  Because Tony, I think it was something along the lines of he
• 23:35
  was the one. Trump was the one that said in
• 23:37
  that tweet that Tiger Woods will not be playing in the Masters
• 23:40
  before all this came. To you know what?
• 23:41
  I saw that tweet. Yeah, that's what that was.
• 23:44
  I I it is? I mean connecting dots.
• 23:46
  Yes, it makes sense. Good call, Tony.
• 23:48
  Thanks for the call. We appreciate it.
• 23:49
  Appreciate you listening as well.
• 23:51
  I did see that. He was the one that broke the
• 23:54
  news. And was it from that phone call?
• 23:55
  No, it wasn't a tweet. It's a truth.
• 23:57
  Oh, a truth. OK, yes, yeah, because doesn't
• 23:59
  use. No, it doesn't use Twitter.
• 24:01
  Interesting. I, well, put it all together.
• 24:04
  Yeah. Unbelievable.
• 24:05
  Yeah. Tommy Lloyd, apparently.
• 24:06
  Jeff Goodman reporting. Tommy Lloyd announces he's
• 24:09
  agreed to a new contract to stay with the Wildcats.
• 24:12
  I'm staying with Arizona. Tommy, you got paid.
• 24:15
  So this was all about a new contract?
• 24:17
  Yeah. Leverage.
• 24:18
  Yeah. Yeah, I told you.
• 24:21
  Don't worry. No, I don't care.
• 24:22
  About it. So is it Billy Donovan?
• 24:24
  Or Oh my God. Because if it's not Donovan,
• 24:27
  that North Carolina job, you look at the list of candidates,
• 24:31
  Trent. It's North Carolina and it's
• 24:33
  still open. But it's an ACC square.
• 24:35
  I get it. I get it.
• 24:37
  It's the finance. Yes, it is.
• 24:39
  You're right. And on top of it, one of the
• 24:41
  things that I heard at the beginning of this, right after
• 24:43
  they, it was actually in that interim weird period where they
• 24:46
  hadn't fired Hubert yet. They were still deciding what
• 24:49
  they were going to do. I think a component of that was
• 24:52
  all the money that they've invested into football, They
• 24:57
  have taken a ton valid check doesn't come cheap of their
• 25:00
  capital into the football program renovations, what we're
• 25:04
  doing, what we're doing in the NIL space, a lot of their
• 25:07
  coffers are going to football. They don't have it.
• 25:10
  And you're at ACC school. And as great as North Carolina
• 25:13
  is, one of the best public institutions in the country, and
• 25:16
  all the great things about that job in the past, we know what
• 25:19
  it's about today. Well North Carolina if it would
• 25:22
  have been Tommy Lloyd. I saw this yesterday.
• 25:25
  They owe Hubert Davis 5 mil. The buy out to get Tommy Lloyd
• 25:29
  away from Arizona was 9 mil. OK so that's 14 mil before he
• 25:33
  even signs the contract. I don't know what the assistants
• 25:36
  are if he would bring his Well it's it's water under the bridge
• 25:39
  now he's staying at Arizona. Wow.
• 25:42
  Well, the the good news is as far as the if, if the North
• 25:48
  Carolina job, I was always told that back in the day, this was
• 25:52
  the biggest job fair in college basketball, the final four that
• 25:57
  there's all the coaches are there, they're all hobnobbed.
• 25:59
  They're all networking, I guess is the term we use now.
• 26:02
  They're all networking and we'll see where it goes.
• 26:05
  But Tommy Lloyd is going nowhere.
• 26:07
  He is staying in Tucson. That's good news for the Big 12.
• 26:09
  It is. It's great news for the Big 12.
• 26:11
  I agree with you. We'll take a time out.
• 26:13
  We'll come back. Eugene Repay on Iowa State,
• 26:15
  Miller and Condon on a Friday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 26:19
  Network. I just passed 12:30 on a Friday
• 26:32
  Miller in Condon, Iowa Sports Radio and we got a text that
• 26:35
  Iowa State has played on a Friday night and yes they have.
• 26:38
  Oklahoma. State I guess one of the bigger
• 26:41
  games Jeff what do you remembers that game very well and so does
• 26:44
  all the fans that were in attendance as they rushed the
• 26:47
  field what a what a scene that. Was and the Alabama fans that
• 26:50
  got them into the national championship game?
• 26:52
  Yes. Yes, yes, that's a great point.
• 26:54
  Absolutely great point. It was unbelievable.
• 26:59
  Jim Brinson, Joe Quinn. I think Joe Quinn, my friend
• 27:05
  Jeff Holdorf was a huge Cyclone fan.
• 27:08
  Yes, we had the. Do we have the coverage of the
• 27:11
  4A championship game that night? It was the 4A football
• 27:14
  championship at the Dome that night.
• 27:15
  I don't remember who played, but I know that we, we I was on our
• 27:18
  Airways because Brinson called it.
• 27:20
  OK. Yeah, Brinson called it back in
• 27:22
  the day. All right, good stuff.
• 27:24
  Let's get to our friend Eugene Repay.
• 27:26
  He and his colleague Travis Hines have been busy.
• 27:29
  Good to talk to you, Jean. How are you?
• 27:31
  I'm good. How are you guys doing?
• 27:33
  OK, doing OK. Very few dull moments covering,
• 27:37
  covering college athletics. Just when you think it's going
• 27:40
  to slow down a little. It certainly hasn't for you, has
• 27:42
  it? No, no, no.
• 27:45
  But that's also kind of the fun and the adventure in all of
• 27:48
  this. You know, there's never, it's
• 27:49
  always something different every day.
• 27:51
  You never know what's going to happen.
• 27:52
  No, no doubt about it. So I guess let's start with the
• 27:56
  the women's program and clearly the Audie Crooks news really
• 28:00
  reverberated. And this is no offense to the
• 28:02
  other players on the team, but this is the all eyeballs were on
• 28:06
  Audie waiting for her decision. She's made her decisions, she's
• 28:10
  moving on. And not great news for Bill and
• 28:15
  the Iowa State Woman's Program. No, just a huge crushing blow.
• 28:20
  You already saw the other departures coming in from Jada
• 28:23
  Williams and other players throughout the roster and then
• 28:25
  naughty crooks. Now to deliver that kind of
• 28:28
  that, that final death punch or that that final mail there is,
• 28:32
  it's definitely just crushing, just a huge blow for the program
• 28:36
  who now just has to rebuild itself and at this point in
• 28:39
  time. It's going to be a lot of
• 28:41
  rebuilding and certainly a lot of new faces that are going to
• 28:44
  be there. On the heels of the announcement
• 28:46
  from Audie Crooks, we get a release from the athletic
• 28:49
  director, Jamie Pollard, who for 7 minutes talks about the state
• 28:52
  of the programs overall, kind of the athletic department.
• 28:55
  Any takeaways from that? Anything that you thought was of
• 28:58
  substance that either calms the Cyclone fans minds or maybe
• 29:02
  raises even more concerns. I was going to say it seems like
• 29:06
  raises more concern is is probably the biggest take away.
• 29:09
  Just looking at all the different social media reactions
• 29:11
  and watching the clip myself. I, I'm not, I don't disagree
• 29:15
  with anyone who's upset with it. I feel like the the whole video,
• 29:19
  while, you know, Jamie Pollard tried to provide some calm or,
• 29:24
  or, you know, kind of, you know, calm some nerves for some of the
• 29:27
  Cyclone fans. I really think that it just
• 29:29
  raised more just concern. It just seemed kind of from,
• 29:33
  from my point of view, just seemed kind of tone deaf in a
• 29:36
  way. It just seemed like, you know,
• 29:38
  you're trying to blame or trying to put the the problem on on
• 29:41
  other things. Like this is the reality of
• 29:43
  college sports right now. I think that, you know, at this
• 29:46
  point in time, we're in a we're a few years into the NIL era.
• 29:49
  You can't really blame it on that anymore.
• 29:51
  I mean, so many other schools are dealing with it, but you
• 29:54
  know, at this point in time, you do have to adapt or whatever it
• 29:57
  may be. And I think, you know, putting
• 29:59
  the blame on on the system or on the individual, it's not really
• 30:04
  productive at this point. And I think that Cyclone fans
• 30:07
  have every reason to be disappointed with kind of or
• 30:10
  just uneasy with where it's at. I mean, the women's program
• 30:13
  especially just got massive blows the, and just just looking
• 30:18
  at that 6 minute, I think it was 6 1/2 minute message.
• 30:22
  I don't think I if I was a Cyclone fan, I I wouldn't come
• 30:25
  away from that feeling better about things.
• 30:27
  No, there was, There was. What about isms in there?
• 30:29
  Nobody cares what's going on with the Oklahoma State program
• 30:32
  and the football programs, Not even anywhere close to what's
• 30:35
  going on with the women's program.
• 30:37
  We'll see where it goes. What I want to ask Eugene and I,
• 30:40
  I asked Tommy this yesterday and I should have followed up and
• 30:43
  ate at me all night yesterday. Apparently Fenley has a lifetime
• 30:48
  contract, but we're under the assumption that the contract
• 30:53
  ends next year. So I hope for Bill Fenley's
• 30:56
  sake, his life's not going to end next year because when I
• 30:58
  hear lifetime, that tells me he can leave when he wants.
• 31:01
  Why are we so confident or has he said anything that, you know,
• 31:06
  next year's going to be my last year?
• 31:08
  Are we sure that Fenley will leave after next year?
• 31:12
  Yeah, we can. Tommy would definitely know
• 31:14
  family more than than myself. But I feel like there's no real
• 31:18
  assumption in that, especially just kind of now given where the
• 31:21
  current state of the program is. I wouldn't be surprised now if
• 31:24
  he tries to stay a couple more years to at least get it in a
• 31:26
  better place. You know, still be a complete
• 31:29
  roster rebuild at this point. I'm sure when Bill Finley signed
• 31:32
  that contract or when things were on the move with that
• 31:36
  extension, you know, they, they had all the pieces to be in a
• 31:39
  great place. Things were looking good.
• 31:41
  They had your core players to build around.
• 31:44
  And now at this point, it's just so many unknowns and and I feel
• 31:46
  like Bill family wouldn't want to ride off into the sunset at
• 31:49
  this point in time, either this year or next year.
• 31:52
  So we'll, we'll see what kind of movies he's able to make and in
• 31:55
  order to kind of get this program back under under, you
• 31:58
  know, get it to like back under it.
• 32:00
  But right now I, I don't know if there's a real guarantee whether
• 32:04
  or not he he stays or leaves. Like I wouldn't be surprised if
• 32:07
  he does stay beyond next year. And had a mass exited a couple
• 32:10
  years ago, was able to turn it around very quickly.
• 32:12
  And that's the hope, I guess, recycling fans at this point as
• 32:15
  well. Eugene, another topic a little
• 32:17
  bit off the beaten path for us. But in the Big 12 that Ken and
• 32:20
  I've been talking about quite a bit these last couple of days.
• 32:23
  I'm sure you saw the back and forth with Brett, your mark, the
• 32:26
  Big 12 commish, and Cody Campbell, the big money donor
• 32:30
  down at Texas Tech, the back and forth that has been going on
• 32:32
  there. Any take away on that?
• 32:34
  And from an Iowa State perspective, look, they're
• 32:36
  swimming in different waters. We know financially in the
• 32:39
  athletic department compared to Texas Tech.
• 32:41
  But for a guy to say no, we don't want to play on Friday
• 32:44
  nights when that's where the money's coming from for the
• 32:46
  whole conference, from TV contracts, just feel felt very
• 32:49
  short sighted. Yeah, no, I, I would, I would
• 32:52
  agree. And and you know, Brett, your
• 32:54
  mark too, seemed like the the clash of big egos, big money
• 32:57
  guys just going back and forth there.
• 33:00
  But no, I, I think that's just kind of like the the state of
• 33:04
  college athletics right now where we're ruled by the TV
• 33:06
  contract or ruled by the big money.
• 33:09
  So I feel like if the the big boss says you got to play on a
• 33:12
  Friday, you got to you got to play on a Friday and.
• 33:15
  It's not like I'm guessing I wasn't in the room when they all
• 33:18
  saw the schools signed the contract.
• 33:20
  They were aware that there's going to be, they're going to be
• 33:23
  asked to play on, you know, nights that they normally would
• 33:26
  have, wouldn't have in the past. Man, they play Thursdays for
• 33:29
  crying out loud for the longest time.
• 33:32
  I mean, I, I hope that it doesn't get to a point that
• 33:34
  they're playing on a Tuesday or a Wednesday, but at this point
• 33:37
  you've, you need your conference to be relevant.
• 33:40
  Then your mark sees that he's going to back.
• 33:43
  Texas Tech knew that there was a there was a chance they would
• 33:45
  play a Friday night game. And I'm sick and tired of this,
• 33:48
  this joker talking about it's just different here.
• 33:52
  OK, But it doesn't mean it doesn't mean any more in Texas
• 33:57
  than it does to, to football fields across Iowa or Nebraska
• 34:01
  or Florida or fill in your state.
• 34:04
  It's not different. It might be bigger in your mind,
• 34:07
  but it's not different. It's Friday night.
• 34:10
  Exactly. Like to everyone else, you know,
• 34:12
  there's still 49 other states in the country.
• 34:15
  I'm sure he probably feels a certain way about Texas Tech and
• 34:19
  Texas. But to us here in Iowa or to
• 34:21
  someone else in another state across the country, there's
• 34:25
  really no difference. Like, you know, you just play
• 34:27
  the games. I'm hoping that it won't get
• 34:29
  ridiculous to the point where it's kind of like match in where
• 34:32
  we get Tuesday night games or Wednesday night games.
• 34:35
  But yeah, right. Right now, I do agree with your
• 34:39
  take there. Back to the Cyclones and now an
• 34:42
  offseason upon us on the men's basketball side, which is a part
• 34:45
  of your main beat along with football.
• 34:47
  The transfer portal going to be opening next week.
• 34:50
  It's going to be certainly the good thing about Iowa State is
• 34:53
  it they always find a way, right?
• 34:56
  They just they find a way. They find guys that fit.
• 34:59
  How much do you anticipate though, Guys that are departing,
• 35:01
  guys that are leaving? There was a talk about
• 35:03
  Manchilovich obviously looking to leave at least a minimum to
• 35:07
  go out there and see what kind of his NBA report card is going
• 35:10
  to look like. How much movement from the
• 35:12
  current roster outside of the graduating seniors do you
• 35:14
  anticipate? I don't anticipate too much, but
• 35:18
  I'm very curious to see what the the situation will look like
• 35:21
  when it's over. You can never be too sure
• 35:23
  nowadays. Like, you know, there's always
• 35:25
  surprises. There's always guys that you
• 35:28
  believe are locked, end up not being locked.
• 35:31
  So you always have to just kind of stay on your toes.
• 35:33
  I think Mom Chilovich will be the most curious one.
• 35:36
  I'd imagine that he tests the pro waters without a doubt.
• 35:39
  I'm curious to see, you know, if if he doesn't choose to GoPro,
• 35:43
  will he come back to Iowa State? We look to go elsewhere.
• 35:46
  What will his NIL be like? You know, I'm sure there's a lot
• 35:49
  of moving parts there for him, but outside of that, like I, I
• 35:52
  would love to see the freshman come back as in Jamarian,
• 35:56
  Bateman, Killian Turay and Dominicus played.
• 35:59
  I think that those guys will be a nice core to build around for
• 36:02
  the future for the next few years.
• 36:04
  Especially when you look at a guy like Bateman, the year he's
• 36:06
  had played as well. He can develop into a nice big
• 36:09
  alongside Blake Buchanan, but just looking at the rest of the
• 36:12
  roster, like I, I think the graduating class is definitely
• 36:16
  the, the huge hit there. You lose, let's see, you lose
• 36:18
  Jefferson, you lose Nate Heisey, But I, I don't really anticipate
• 36:22
  too many moves outside of Bob Tilvich maybe going pro in the
• 36:28
  in the main rotation. I'd love to see what Davion
• 36:30
  Mitchell does. And I, and I do think that Mason
• 36:32
  Williams will be a huge wild card next year with, you know,
• 36:34
  what will he look like once he's healthy.
• 36:36
  So right now I'm not anticipating too many
• 36:39
  groundbreaking earth shattering moves, but you can never be too
• 36:42
  sure nowadays. No doubt a couple of coaching
• 36:47
  positions available on TJ staff. Are you hearing anything in that
• 36:51
  regard? Right now it's I know that TJ
• 36:56
  Altelberger from I've heard is, you know, working on it.
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  I don't think that there will be any moves any like in the direct
• 37:04
  near future, maybe this week or next week.
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  But I'm curious to see how he fills it in where he's going to
• 37:10
  go for his new assistants. He had one vacancy to worry
• 37:14
  about. Now all of a sudden the UNI job
• 37:16
  opened up and now he's lost two of his top assistants.
• 37:19
  So I'm really curious to see how the search does and how he taxed
• 37:22
  it. And also, will he continue to
• 37:24
  keep the quote UN quote coordinator system?
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  We had Cal Green and Jr. one basically running the defense.
• 37:32
  They had their Crawford and H Mitty running the offense.
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  So I'm curious to see, you know, when you have to replace half
• 37:38
  your top assistance. Is he still going to maintain
• 37:40
  that system? Is he going to change it up?
• 37:42
  So there are a lot of things here for TJ, also Burger to
• 37:46
  consider moving forward. Do you know if he's at the final
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  four? I actually don't know if he's
• 37:52
  there personally. I would be surprised.
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  I know it's like a big yeah, like a big networking flash,
• 37:57
  like, you know, the who's who of college basketball.
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  So I wouldn't be surprised if he's there.
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  Yeah, I think almost every college goes there every single
• 38:03
  year and make that happen. And yeah, maybe in learning
• 38:06
  right to somebody different, somebody outside of your circle,
• 38:09
  Yeah, definitely makes a whole lot of sense.
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  Not only that, now you have this, you're going to have the
• 38:13
  portal, which is incredible. And I know we know it here, you
• 38:15
  know it on the newspaper side. This drives a lot of clicks, no
• 38:19
  doubt. Transfer portal season.
• 38:21
  Y'all just got spring football going on.
• 38:22
  You had an opportunity, I know to talk to some assistants
• 38:24
  earlier in the week. You had earlier than that you
• 38:27
  had coach Rodgers. So and we're going to get some
• 38:29
  kind of open practice at the end of things to at least maybe put
• 38:33
  a face with some of these guys that we're learning about at
• 38:35
  this point in time. This has got to be.
• 38:37
  I know it's early in your career, Eugene, but this is
• 38:39
  going to be odd trying to figure out this football roster
• 38:41
  compared to what you've been used to these last couple of
• 38:43
  years. Even the guys that I've spoken
• 38:46
  to, the other Iowa State reporters who've been around the
• 38:48
  block way longer than me, at least 10 years, we're, we're all
• 38:52
  in the same boat here. It's kind of like, you know
• 38:55
  what, what are these guys actually capable of?
• 38:57
  It's nice that we're meeting players like Cameron Pettaway
• 39:00
  hearing his story or Max Balloon, who was with Jimmy
• 39:03
  Rogers since the South Dakota State days followed him to
• 39:06
  Washington State. Now he's here in Iowa State
• 39:08
  projects to be one of their top lineman ideally, but until we
• 39:13
  see these guys on the field, it's really hard to rush to any
• 39:16
  conclusions, rush to any judgments.
• 39:17
  I mean, the open the the main message just from talking to
• 39:20
  players and the coordinators and Jimmy Rogers so far is that it's
• 39:24
  really a wide open battle for all spots in the depth chart.
• 39:28
  The 2D is really undetermined. There were no favorites.
• 39:31
  There's like no guy where they're like, oh, you're looking
• 39:34
  to be a starter this year. So, so much is up for grabs.
• 39:37
  And when you have over 100 new players and a completely new
• 39:41
  system, anything really goes. So it's really hard for anyone
• 39:45
  to reject. And it seems like this from
• 39:47
  talking to other reporters and people who've been around
• 39:49
  longer, we're all just kind of like, all right, we're, you
• 39:53
  know, this is the adventure. We're going along with it and
• 39:55
  we're going to see how this unfolds.
• 39:57
  I mean, hopefully we'll get more insight as the spring comes out
• 40:00
  or once that open practice occurs.
• 40:02
  But even then. So much will probably change by
• 40:04
  the time we get through summer and then when we get to fall
• 40:07
  camp pre season and then week week zero, week 1.
• 40:11
  What will that depth chart look like then?
• 40:13
  Yeah, going to be fascinating. I saw some of the quotes and
• 40:16
  some of the players that were mentioned with either one of the
• 40:19
  coordinators and I just like who are these guys?
• 40:22
  You know, I heard of Ross Cup, I heard of Flora, I heard of
• 40:25
  Willock, the receiver Overbee, but other than that and they
• 40:30
  probably listed 20 players and they I don't I never heard of
• 40:34
  these dudes. This that's just completely new
• 40:36
  for everybody. So you're not alone.
• 40:38
  Everybody in the media on the same footing with that one.
• 40:41
  Eugene, did you say anything? Good stuff, Eugene repay.
• 40:45
  Appreciate it. Who do you have this week
• 40:47
  football wise? Do you know, Have you seen the
• 40:49
  list? We will know until Monday, but I
• 40:53
  believe we're we're going to start cracking into the the
• 40:55
  position groups on starting on Monday and Wednesday.
• 40:58
  Good stuff we'll get to know. Good stuff, and we'll pick your
• 41:01
  brain about that when we talk to you on on next Friday.
• 41:05
  By the way, who's cutting down the Nets on Monday night in
• 41:07
  Indianapolis? I still like Arizona.
• 41:11
  I still like, I still like the Wildcats.
• 41:13
  Good stuff Eugene, have a great weekend.
• 41:16
  Enjoy the games. Appreciate what you do for Trent
• 41:18
  and I and the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 41:20
  Thank you, Eugene Rupee. Thank you guys, have a good
• 41:23
  weekend. You do the same Eugene repay Des
• 41:25
  Moines Register desmoinesregister.com for you
• 41:29
  Gene going to be fascinating. What what day was that Trent?
• 41:32
  I think it's the same day as I was holding theirs.
• 41:34
  Is it the? 25th that sounds right.
• 41:37
  I got an e-mail in here somewhere, but yes, got the
• 41:40
  e-mail from Iowa State and something that needed to be
• 41:42
  done. Absolutely, without a doubt.
• 41:45
  You mentioned it right from the get go and and what we saw was
• 41:47
  happening obviously with after Campbell's departure, you got to
• 41:51
  get the fan base to know these tests and even if it's just a
• 41:53
  glimpse. Give them a taste.
• 41:54
  It goes a long, long way. It does.
• 41:57
  Then let them have them run, run around, or, you know, meet them,
• 42:00
  have a meet and greet afterwards, which I'm sure
• 42:02
  they're going to do. They got to sell season tickets
• 42:04
  after all. Miller and Condon, our final
• 42:07
  segment of the first hour, Tom Kecker kicks off hour number
• 42:10
  two. Mike Palm will be in, well, he's
• 42:11
  in Vegas. We'll join him for a segment
• 42:13
  coming up at 1:30. We're on the Iowa Sports Radio
• 42:16
  Network. Hi, Mory Condon, welcome back
• 42:34
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Our final segment of our number
• 42:37
  one Tom Kicard on Iowa Mike Palm Vegas related topic
• 42:42
  circussports.com coming up in the second hour of the program.
• 42:46
  You know, back to Iowa State football.
• 42:47
  It's it's going to be different. I think for us as well, you
• 42:51
  know, trying to decipher battles because we don't know who
• 42:53
  they're battling against, right? It's it's essentially right now
• 42:56
  it's two names. We we don't know.
• 42:59
  I mean, maybe we can go back and clean some of the stats, nothing
• 43:04
  more. I wouldn't think of the players
• 43:06
  when they were at Washington State, but what what, what it's,
• 43:11
  it's so different. It is, absolutely.
• 43:12
  We feel like we at least have a baseline.
• 43:14
  Normally most years. That baseline's gone now.
• 43:16
  It's gone, doesn't mean that we have.
• 43:18
  Baselines in Happy Valley it is it.
• 43:20
  Is I was just listening to something, I think it was last
• 43:24
  week, it was the Visen College Football Betting podcast with
• 43:28
  our buddy Tim Murray, who you know, Tim, great guy.
• 43:31
  We didn't get Tim on during the summer because he's still
• 43:34
  turning out contact. They're talking about win
• 43:35
  totals. They were talking about Penn
• 43:36
  State. College football already.
• 43:39
  And they were talking about Penn State and it was just so weird.
• 43:43
  They are starting to talk about Carson Hansen.
• 43:45
  It's just just I, it's like mind boggling, right?
• 43:50
  They're talking about Carson Hansen. 9 1/2's the number for
• 43:53
  Penn State. Their schedule's incredibly
• 43:55
  easy, but this better that he had on actually was on the
• 43:59
  under. Was he on the under the 9 1/2,
• 44:01
  the 9 1/2? Despite that schedule, as easy
• 44:04
  as it is, I mean, I, I, I feel for Iowa State fans right now.
• 44:10
  Two of the faces of their athletic department within the I
• 44:13
  mean, it only could have been worse.
• 44:14
  As if Lipsy would have left, right?
• 44:16
  You lose Rocco Bect, you lose now Audie Crooks.
• 44:21
  It really and truly is. That's a 1-2 punch on top of
• 44:26
  things. Of course you lost your coach.
• 44:27
  Yes, coach. And taking in places you'd never
• 44:29
  been before. I get it why they're a little
• 44:32
  sensitive and I I truly do understand it.
• 44:34
  We'll see if Pollard and Fenley can pull it out, but there's no
• 44:37
  doubt in my mind now he's staying.
• 44:39
  And coupled with I saw a lot of regurgitating of what's happened
• 44:45
  in the Pollard and Light District.
• 44:47
  It's it's, I don't think it's going well.
• 44:48
  I get that sense. It's not I'm too led to.
• 44:51
  I believe everything's fine. Now, you know, at the beginning
• 44:54
  I didn't get it. I didn't get it either.
• 44:56
  And, well, he's just a Hawkeye fan, so he can't wrap his mind
• 44:59
  around it. It's one thing in Kansas City,
• 45:02
  right? It's another thing in Ames, IA.
• 45:05
  I never understood the population base.
• 45:07
  I was going to be able to support that outside of.
• 45:10
  The big events on the weekend? And we know the tailgating seed.
• 45:13
  It's great. That's exactly it's right.
• 45:15
  You don't need to touch that. So people are going to leave
• 45:19
  their tailgate where you buy a case of beer, right?
• 45:21
  And you sit around with your buddies to go to.
• 45:22
  A bar to go to Applebee's. And no.
• 45:25
  And pay 750 for a draw, right? No, no.
• 45:29
  You want to be outside the elements?
• 45:30
  Absolutely. Do what you've always done.
• 45:32
  It's as good a tailgating as ever been to.
• 45:34
  It's wonderful, it really is, and it's just still going to be
• 45:38
  there, but not to the I, I don't under and how are you going to
• 45:41
  get people there on a Tuesday night in February?
• 45:43
  Absolutely right, unless there's a basketball.
• 45:45
  Game unless there's a basketball.
• 45:46
  Game. But if there's not good luck,
• 45:48
  it's Ames. Are people coming from Des
• 45:50
  Moines to do that? Hey, let's go up to Ames.
• 45:52
  No, why would you leave Ankeny or West Des Moines or Altoona or
• 45:57
  wherever you reside? I don't get it.
• 45:59
  We'll see how it goes. Should have stopped after the
• 46:03
  bridge was completed. Got that one right.
• 46:06
  They love their bridge. Hour 2, Tom Caker kicks it off
• 46:10
  Mike Palm joins us as well. Trent's plays of the day.
• 46:14
  It's Miller in Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.