Latest / Billy & Lisa in the Morning / Dave Wedge + Maura Healey
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So if you listen to.
- 0:01Speaker 2: The Billion Lisa Morning Show with any kind of irregularity,
- 0:04Speaker 2: and I know most of you do, we tend to
- 0:05Speaker 2: talk about our personal lives in the very opening segment
- 0:10Speaker 2: of each day's show, right.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Lis, we do.
- 0:12Speaker 3: We share a moment, hey, like what.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Happened with you yesterday?
- 0:15Speaker 2: If there was an interesting story or development that's worth mentioning.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Justin came in this morning and apparently he went to
- 0:22Speaker 2: Kenneby Lake Park with the kids, and I think he's
- 0:26Speaker 2: talked about his fear of amusement rides in the past,
- 0:30Speaker 2: so for him personally, even getting on the teacups is
- 0:36Speaker 2: a challenge. You've got to confront your fears, which you did,
- 0:42Speaker 2: yeah at Kenneby Lake Park this weekend.
- 0:44Speaker 1: But you got off the tea cups, which is absolute
- 0:49Speaker 1: entry level.
- 0:50Speaker 2: I don't think when it comes to amusement rides, there's
- 0:53Speaker 2: nothing easier than a tea cup.
- 0:55Speaker 4: No pick Lisa picture of the tea cups. Okay, you're
- 0:57Speaker 4: in a little teacup that spins, but that tea cup
- 1:00Speaker 4: is on a bigger spinny thing. Yes, so it's like
- 1:04Speaker 4: a double spin. You're spinning, and then the teacup itself.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Is spinning right.
- 1:08Speaker 5: And plus, this is the other part of the story.
- 1:10Speaker 5: You had a lot of tacos right before you went on.
- 1:12Speaker 3: The tea cup.
- 1:13Speaker 6: Yeah, we hit the restaurant there. I got some tacos.
- 1:15Speaker 4: Now I should breakface this by saying I did go
- 1:17Speaker 4: on a pirate ship kids ride minutes before, but that
- 1:20Speaker 4: one didn't spin. It just goes.
- 1:23Speaker 1: And down.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Yeah, it's for small children. So I went on that
- 1:26Speaker 4: and I did not like that. But I didn't make
- 1:28Speaker 4: me sick, but I was kind of like iffy. And
- 1:31Speaker 4: then after, you know we're gonna leave soon. My daughter,
- 1:34Speaker 4: she's four, she says, Dad, can you go on the
- 1:37Speaker 4: tea cups with me?
- 1:38Speaker 6: And so I did.
- 1:39Speaker 4: And it would have been fine if I could have
- 1:41Speaker 4: shut my eyes the entire time, but.
- 1:43Speaker 1: She wanted you to experience it. Opened your eyes.
- 1:46Speaker 6: She was so excited when you were a kid, and
- 1:47Speaker 6: not mind you. When I was a kid, I like
- 1:48Speaker 6: these rides. Yeah we're not a big deal.
- 1:50Speaker 4: But when I when I got older and went back
- 1:52Speaker 4: to amusement parks, I learned and I don't like them.
- 1:55Speaker 4: So we get off the ride. I knew something was wrong.
- 1:58Speaker 4: I did not feel good. I was spinning. It's like
- 2:00Speaker 4: when you drink too much alcohol and you start spinning.
- 2:03Speaker 4: So I come off and I'm looking for my wife
- 2:06Speaker 4: and I see her kind of sitting with my son,
- 2:08Speaker 4: and I walk up to her and she looks at
- 2:10Speaker 4: me and says, are you okay? And I was kind
- 2:13Speaker 4: of walking sideways, and she goes, you need, you need
- 2:16Speaker 4: to get it together.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Sit down.
- 2:18Speaker 4: So I sit down and it's not getting any better,
- 2:21Speaker 4: and then I lost control.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I don't think it's a good
- 2:26Speaker 2: idea to down close to a dozen tacos before you
- 2:29Speaker 2: get on any amusement, right, I mean I.
- 2:31Speaker 4: Didn't couldn't predict she was going to say on the
- 2:33Speaker 4: way out, let's hit the teeth.
- 2:35Speaker 6: Plus it was really hot out.
- 2:36Speaker 4: We were there all day long, and so when I
- 2:38Speaker 4: sat down, I continued and then I threw up. And
- 2:43Speaker 4: the embarrassing part wasn't so much.
- 2:46Speaker 6: The throwing up. It was now picture this. I'm hunched over.
- 2:51Speaker 4: There are people everywhere, and my daughter, Gemma, who I love,
- 2:54Speaker 4: sweetest girl ever, is rubbing my back.
- 2:57Speaker 6: It's okay, Daddy, it's okay.
- 3:00Speaker 7: Are you okay?
- 3:01Speaker 6: I wasn't okay.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there must spend a lot of other people
- 3:04Speaker 1: around too.
- 3:05Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 3:05Speaker 4: So then we had to leave the park and we
- 3:07Speaker 4: had to walk all the way to the car and
- 3:10Speaker 4: I was still not walking right. So then my wife's
- 3:12Speaker 4: kind of guiding me because I was still spinning and
- 3:15Speaker 4: my stomach was still in knots. It was the most embarrassing,
- 3:21Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
- 3:21Speaker 6: So I did look it up. By the way, I
- 3:22Speaker 6: have some information here.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on one second.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Okay, are you telling me that your queasiness as a
- 3:29Speaker 2: grown man, as a father, Yes, your queasiness forced everybody
- 3:33Speaker 2: to cut the day short.
- 3:35Speaker 1: So now you're head into the parking.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like you are there.
- 3:37Speaker 6: We were on our way out, but that was the
- 3:39Speaker 6: final There was no more fun for Justin your dad.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Okay, so you looked it up.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was always wondering why When I was
- 3:48Speaker 4: a kid, I could ride roller coaster's no problem, But
- 3:50Speaker 4: as an adult, I can't do any not even the
- 3:52Speaker 4: first wheel. I can't do the first wheel. I don't
- 3:54Speaker 4: like the heights, I don't like spinning nothing. So it's
- 3:56Speaker 4: because your inner air balance ages, and your brain gets
- 4:01Speaker 4: slower at processing different signals and your body handles physical
- 4:05Speaker 4: stress differently.
- 4:06Speaker 6: This is science okay, Bill, Okay, that's.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Why some people get seasick. Yeah, other people don't.
- 4:13Speaker 8: I could have taken a dram of me, and I guess, hey, Justin,
- 4:15Speaker 8: next time you go to Canoby Lake or Six Flags
- 4:18Speaker 8: or wherever you want to go with the kids, make
- 4:20Speaker 8: sure you take a dram of me beforehand.
- 4:22Speaker 3: That might help, yea our bonnie, Yeah, either either of
- 4:25Speaker 3: the two.
- 4:26Speaker 6: I did not take one because I had no plans.
- 4:28Speaker 6: It's kind of known. My son knows. Dad doesn't go
- 4:31Speaker 6: on right. He goes on all of them untamed.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm significantly more advanced in age than you.
- 4:38Speaker 1: I could still get on a roller car.
- 4:40Speaker 6: I do not believe that. I would love to see that.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I still get Justin.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I'm kind of like you. I don't like him either, No,
- 4:46Speaker 3: I don't will make me feel I don't want. I
- 4:48Speaker 3: feel claustrophobic. Like as soon as that thing comes over.
- 4:52Speaker 5: You on the roller coaster and walks in, I start
- 4:55Speaker 5: to hyperventilate.
- 4:56Speaker 6: Well, you start to think what if it's not secure or.
- 4:59Speaker 3: What if it's never going to open again?
- 5:02Speaker 6: Too?
- 5:02Speaker 3: Like I'm locked in here.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Yeah, my biggest thing, which is right, I don't go
- 5:06Speaker 2: on them anymore. Is I don't trust the safety.
- 5:09Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Cannoby is super. Kennedy's never had any.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Serious I know that she still enters your mind because
- 5:14Speaker 2: you see all these stories all the time in the news.
- 5:16Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 5:17Speaker 4: I would love to see Billy get in his car
- 5:19Speaker 4: and drive up ninety three to Cannoby Lake. I will
- 5:21Speaker 4: meet you there any time. Producer Riley used to work there. Riley,
- 5:24Speaker 4: isn't it cannedy great?
- 5:25Speaker 3: Cannoby is very safe. I love Cannoby. I want to
- 5:28Speaker 3: be invited to this little outing that we're going on.
- 5:29Speaker 1: So we're going to Cannoby Lake.
- 5:31Speaker 6: Ye, I'll tell you what.
- 5:32Speaker 1: I'll do the roller coaster with my arms in the.
- 5:34Speaker 3: Air, right, But we're not going on it. I'll go
- 5:38Speaker 3: on the tea cups.
- 5:40Speaker 6: No, Lisa, I'm not going on the tea cups again.
- 5:43Speaker 3: I think redeem yourself.
- 5:44Speaker 1: I am not well, it's a good test.
- 5:46Speaker 2: If you go on the tea cups without a dozen tacos,
- 5:49Speaker 2: maybe you'll be fine.
- 5:50Speaker 6: No that that that doesn't matter. I did not feel good.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Ever combined cheat day with an amusement park.
- 5:56Speaker 3: We'll go on the Pirate Ship.
- 5:57Speaker 6: Oh, the one that it's for small children. Please be right?
- 6:01Speaker 6: If you and I go on there. But Bill, anytime
- 6:04Speaker 6: you can go go, uh, you can come up and on.
- 6:06Speaker 6: But that was my embarrassing moment.
- 6:08Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 6:08Speaker 6: I mean, Bill just had an embarrassing moment a couple
- 6:10Speaker 6: of minutes ago.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Lise, Oh, did he have.
- 6:13Speaker 6: The anniversary is coming up? Wedding anniversary four.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Years of five years?
- 6:16Speaker 1: Okay, like I said, happy anniversary? What are you doing?
- 6:19Speaker 1: Are you out of your mind?
- 6:21Speaker 6: The topic is now?
- 6:22Speaker 1: See when you started at least of course it's five years.
- 6:25Speaker 3: That was an innocent question.
- 6:26Speaker 6: Yeah, three four, five?
- 6:27Speaker 7: What is it?
- 6:27Speaker 1: Bill?
- 6:28Speaker 2: And when you blind something like I said, happy anniversary,
- 6:31Speaker 2: scated right by five years.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Everybody knows that that's going to be figured it out.
- 6:35Speaker 6: Yeah, well he did the math in his head.
- 6:37Speaker 5: Yeah, no, producer had to pull up pictures of the
- 6:40Speaker 5: wedding picture in the days.
- 6:43Speaker 6: Then we figured it out. So listen, my tea cup
- 6:46Speaker 6: isn't the most embarrassing.
- 6:47Speaker 9: This isn't my guy.
- 6:47Speaker 8: So the Cannaby mishap justin I feel you. I don't
- 6:50Speaker 8: know what's going on, but I used to go on
- 6:52Speaker 8: all those rides, the spinny rides, the upside down rides,
- 6:55Speaker 8: any of those rides, and I absolutely loved him. Since
- 6:58Speaker 8: I got sober, for some reason, I cannot do those rides.
- 7:02Speaker 8: I get so sick to my stomach, which I thought
- 7:04Speaker 8: it would have been the opposite.
- 7:06Speaker 7: But I don't know.
- 7:07Speaker 8: I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
- 7:08Speaker 8: I'll have to check into that. But I feel your pain. Thanks,
- 7:13Speaker 8: thank you very much.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Is there a connection to sobriety?
- 7:16Speaker 4: I thought maybe, But this this says right here that
- 7:19Speaker 4: tiny hair cells and nerves in your inner ear wear
- 7:21Speaker 4: down over time and they make it harder to recover
- 7:24Speaker 4: from rapid spinning. That's why kids that they're fresh and
- 7:27Speaker 4: snow you can go around and around all day, doesn't
- 7:30Speaker 4: affect her.
- 7:30Speaker 1: They're saying, it's the little hairs that annoy you that
- 7:34Speaker 1: grow in your ear.
- 7:34Speaker 6: The tiny hair cells and nerves in your inner ear.
- 7:37Speaker 6: They wear down over time, and they make your hair.
- 7:40Speaker 3: That sticks out okay once you don't say.
- 7:43Speaker 1: That becomes problematic as you age.
- 7:45Speaker 6: Wow, this is this is pretty scientific here.
- 7:47Speaker 4: So your eyes, muscles, and inner ear send mixed messages
- 7:50Speaker 4: to your brain about where you are, which triggers dizziness
- 7:53Speaker 4: and nausea.
- 7:54Speaker 6: Hence me throwing up.
- 7:55Speaker 1: That subt you need a couple of drinks before No,
- 7:58Speaker 1: you need a drama druma.
- 8:00Speaker 6: Or just everyone again.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Incredible news news Ever's time for real.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Or fig headlines with the Billy and Lisa on Kids Onnaway.
- 8:14Speaker 4: Here's how the game works. I'll read a headline and
- 8:16Speaker 4: you have to tell me, Billy and Lisa if it's
- 8:18Speaker 4: a real or fake. All right, here we go, real
- 8:21Speaker 4: e fake headlines. First headline, Billy and Lisa circus performer
- 8:26Speaker 4: shot with arrow at a fair in New York.
- 8:31Speaker 1: I'm gonna go reel on that, me too, going reel
- 8:34Speaker 1: you think it's real?
- 8:34Speaker 3: Yeah, going all the way. Yes, you get so excited.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Well, you're walking around with a bow and arrow if
- 8:43Speaker 1: you're not shooting somebody, what are you?
- 8:45Speaker 7: I mean?
- 8:45Speaker 6: Are you more excited you got it right? Or excited
- 8:47Speaker 6: that someone got shot with an arrow? I'll go with right. Yeah, Okay.
- 8:50Speaker 10: A circus performer is in the hospital tonight after police
- 8:53Speaker 10: say he was shot with an arrow in Orange County.
- 8:55Speaker 1: New York say.
- 8:56Speaker 10: Troopers say the performer was holding a phone target, but
- 8:58Speaker 10: that fellow performer was mostly hit with an arrow when
- 9:02Speaker 10: they hit the victim instead. He was airlifd into Westchester
- 9:05Speaker 10: Medical Center in stable condition.
- 9:08Speaker 2: I'm shocked that that still exists, where the person stands
- 9:13Speaker 2: holding like an apple on their head or something, and
- 9:15Speaker 2: an archer shoots an arrow.
- 9:17Speaker 1: By the way, in this case, they were holding a
- 9:19Speaker 1: cell phone.
- 9:19Speaker 6: He took it in the neck. Fact, it was kind
- 9:22Speaker 6: of it didn't really go into him. It kind of
- 9:26Speaker 6: nick the performer. So they're okay, Okay, they're okay, but still.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Given an arrow.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Or imagine waking up every morning and this is your gig.
- 9:37Speaker 2: You've got to be the guy holding the item while
- 9:41Speaker 2: somebody else fires an arrow at you.
- 9:44Speaker 6: I mean, you know, well look at you. You show
- 9:46Speaker 6: up every day and say weird thing. Oh that's a
- 9:48Speaker 6: good looking kid. Some days I'd rather pick the arrow
- 9:52Speaker 6: in the neck.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:54Speaker 6: Next headline here nurse impaled by Paul during hike. He
- 10:00Speaker 6: is forced to trek ten miles for help.
- 10:03Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go reel on this. They're constantly things
- 10:06Speaker 2: happening with crazy hikers.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna go real on this too.
- 10:10Speaker 6: God, I thought i'd get you no with the two
- 10:13Speaker 6: similar stories.
- 10:14Speaker 1: But yeah, this, yeah, it's like hiker's going wild.
- 10:17Speaker 6: This is this is true.
- 10:18Speaker 11: Yep.
- 10:19Speaker 4: An amazing story a thirty two year old emergency room nurse.
- 10:24Speaker 4: His name is David Sefaldi. He's from Billings, Montana.
- 10:27Speaker 6: He was scaling Granite Peak, which is, by the way,
- 10:29Speaker 6: the state's highest summit, with two of his friends, at
- 10:32Speaker 6: an elevation billy of eleven eight hundred feet. He stepped
- 10:36Speaker 6: on a loose rock, lost his footing and fell.
- 10:40Speaker 1: And just slipped on some rocks.
- 10:41Speaker 7: It's just kind of a freak thing.
- 10:43Speaker 12: As I rolled over, I noticed one of my trekking
- 10:46Speaker 12: poles laying on the ground, and as I kind of
- 10:50Speaker 12: set up, I like could I realized that the other
- 10:55Speaker 12: one was stuck in my side.
- 10:57Speaker 6: But his friend says, David was still caught.
- 11:00Speaker 1: He's still talking, he was still breathing. There was not
- 11:04Speaker 1: a pool of blood.
- 11:05Speaker 13: With the pole still impaled in his body. David made
- 11:08Speaker 13: the sixteen kilometer trek back down, which took more than
- 11:12Speaker 13: six hours, as his friends guided him and used a
- 11:15Speaker 13: satellite to contact search and rescue, who waited for him
- 11:19Speaker 13: to take him to hospital, where the pole was safely removed.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Uh yeah, this is I mean, imagine
- 11:26Speaker 1: that happens to you.
- 11:26Speaker 6: Yeah, what are you going to do.
- 11:29Speaker 1: No, the pole is kind of blunt to Yeah, Predu ser.
- 11:32Speaker 4: Riley, if you could pick up your phone for a
- 11:34Speaker 4: second and you can hold up the picture for Billy
- 11:37Speaker 4: and Lisa to see, just to get a visual of
- 11:39Speaker 4: what this guy went through.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Visual is important, Okay, So.
- 11:42Speaker 6: You just take a look there, Lisa, you want to
- 11:44Speaker 6: take a look a well, Wow, it is through literally
- 11:47Speaker 6: his whole body.
- 11:48Speaker 1: It goes into his arm just below the shoulder and
- 11:51Speaker 1: comes out his back. Yeah m hm, oh my god, yeah,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I know. I'm sorry I had to give you the visual.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 11:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even believe he survived this.
- 12:00Speaker 6: Yeah he's okay, poor guy.
- 12:02Speaker 7: I like this.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Is this gonna be part of real fake We're gonna
- 12:05Speaker 2: get visuals all the time now sometimes.
- 12:07Speaker 4: Okay for this next headline, if it's real. The headline
- 12:10Speaker 4: reads woman caught running a fake lost dog flyer campaign
- 12:15Speaker 4: with her ex's picture on it. Is that a real
- 12:20Speaker 4: story or did justin make that up?
- 12:23Speaker 1: I'm gonna fake on this one. He made this.
- 12:27Speaker 3: It's a funny story. I'm gonna go real just to
- 12:32Speaker 3: make it interesting.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Going real.
- 12:34Speaker 6: Yeah, it is a fake story.
- 12:38Speaker 3: Okay, I just I tried.
- 12:40Speaker 6: That's okay, that's all right. It's a fake lost dog
- 12:43Speaker 6: flyer campaign for a fake headline. Yeah, that's how it goes.
- 12:47Speaker 1: It's okay, Well why they why did she use his picture?
- 12:52Speaker 3: It's a fake story, though.
- 12:53Speaker 6: Fake story. We want to if you want to, like,
- 12:55Speaker 6: you know, you want to go to story time. I'm
- 13:00Speaker 6: assuming he's a dog.
- 13:03Speaker 3: A good story.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Yeah, believable.
- 13:08Speaker 6: Your game is I was all in God, would you
- 13:11Speaker 6: take an arrow to the head bill?
- 13:14Speaker 7: All right?
- 13:14Speaker 6: My final headline here man shouts out his bay during
- 13:21Speaker 6: drug trafficking arrest. Is that a real story? When did
- 13:26Speaker 6: I make it up?
- 13:28Speaker 1: Hmmm, I'm gonna say fake.
- 13:35Speaker 3: I'm gonna say real.
- 13:37Speaker 6: List you're saying rail on this bill, you're saying fake.
- 13:39Speaker 1: I'm definitely saying fake.
- 13:40Speaker 4: Okay, Lisa, you are correct. It's a real story out
- 13:46Speaker 4: of Florida. The guy was caught on camera shouting out
- 13:49Speaker 4: his bay. Now I should ask you, do you know
- 13:51Speaker 4: what that means?
- 13:52Speaker 1: Bell bay? I think it means his girlfriend, Yeah, like
- 13:54Speaker 1: his loved one.
- 13:55Speaker 6: His girlfriends to lose.
- 13:57Speaker 2: That term, I think, first of all, I just start there,
- 14:01Speaker 2: what's wrong with dude? You're still throwing the word bay
- 14:05Speaker 2: around as a grown man.
- 14:07Speaker 6: Anyway, he was caught on camera shouting out his bay
- 14:10Speaker 6: while being arrested. I don't know where she was, but
- 14:14Speaker 6: he wanted to get to her.
- 14:15Speaker 7: Cut out to me, I don't care, come out to me,
- 14:18Speaker 7: sell me your hand, we'll get in.
- 14:32Speaker 10: I think.
- 14:32Speaker 14: I don't think he's going to be there when he
- 14:34Speaker 14: gets out what she probably dimed him out, called the cops.
- 14:44Speaker 6: But you know what, if she is, you can sing
- 14:45Speaker 6: her a song.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Why not?
- 14:50Speaker 7: Billy and Lisa All the Morning?
- 14:53Speaker 1: Okay.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Dave Wedge, good friend of the show, is also a
- 14:55Speaker 2: New York Times best selling author. He's written books about well,
- 14:59Speaker 2: the Marathon bombing, It's about Marvin Hagler, the Why Belcher,
- 15:04Speaker 2: Marvin Hagler, Whitey Bulger. Isn't the Whitey thing being turned
- 15:07Speaker 2: into a project.
- 15:09Speaker 15: Yeah, we're in production right now. We're shooting on a
- 15:12Speaker 15: sound stage in Brighton. Casey Sherman my co author, and
- 15:15Speaker 15: I who wrote I wrote the book with her co
- 15:17Speaker 15: producing a three part Hulu docu series with the great
- 15:20Speaker 15: Ben Affleck and Ben's gonna be narrating.
- 15:23Speaker 1: So that's wow.
- 15:24Speaker 3: So Artist Equity brought into the project.
- 15:26Speaker 15: That's right. Yeah, they're one of the co producers on
- 15:28Speaker 15: it with me, Casey. Yeah, it's super fun. It's it's
- 15:31Speaker 15: an exciting project. We've got a great director, you know.
- 15:34Speaker 15: Working with Ben as a dream come true. He's just
- 15:36Speaker 15: such a talented guy. Yeah, just a talented dude.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Are you on the phone with him on a regular basis?
- 15:41Speaker 15: We're on some zooms, Not not regularly, but we've been
- 15:43Speaker 15: on a bunch of zooms with them. And I'll send
- 15:45Speaker 15: you a screenshot.
- 15:47Speaker 7: Love that.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Well, your current book is Blizzard of Lies. It's all
- 15:51Speaker 2: about Karen Reid. I know you were on a Good
- 15:53Speaker 2: Morning America yesterday. Why would you go there first day? Well,
- 15:56Speaker 2: I was slumming at Billion, slumming it. So it was
- 15:59Speaker 2: just so it was to get ready for this. The
- 16:01Speaker 2: way it works, Dave is you come to the Billy
- 16:04Speaker 2: at least the morning show, and then off you go
- 16:07Speaker 2: to Good Morning.
- 16:07Speaker 1: Well you are my first radio so yeah, okay, I'll
- 16:10Speaker 1: take it like that. And he's also the best dressed author.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I think he really is.
- 16:13Speaker 3: He came in in a sport cout.
- 16:15Speaker 15: My wife will appreciate that.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Blizzard of Lies all about Karen Reid.
- 16:20Speaker 15: Why now with the book, Well, you know, I first
- 16:23Speaker 15: started looking at the case when it happened, like a
- 16:25Speaker 15: lot of people did, and I was going to do
- 16:26Speaker 15: a book on it back in twenty three, but then
- 16:28Speaker 15: I kind of got sidetracked and ended up doing the
- 16:30Speaker 15: Marvin Hagler book, as we talked about. And then after
- 16:33Speaker 15: I finished that book and the first trial happened, and
- 16:35Speaker 15: then the second trial was starting, I talked to my
- 16:38Speaker 15: agents and reps and they're like, you know what, it's
- 16:40Speaker 15: probably time to do this. It's a big Boston true
- 16:42Speaker 15: crime story. You're one of the Boston true crime guys.
- 16:45Speaker 1: You should do it.
- 16:46Speaker 15: I wasn't super excited about doing it because so many
- 16:50Speaker 15: had so much had been written about it, so many
- 16:51Speaker 15: people were involved in it, and I was like, Karen
- 16:53Speaker 15: Reid's going to do her own book, Turtle Boy is
- 16:55Speaker 15: going to do a book, this one. You know, every
- 16:57Speaker 15: week involved. So it's a really hard one for me
- 16:59Speaker 15: to find a lane. But I did, and I worked
- 17:02Speaker 15: on it really hard, covered you know, all the co proceedings,
- 17:05Speaker 15: inter viewed a ton of people, did my research like
- 17:07Speaker 15: I always.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Do, and here it is.
- 17:09Speaker 5: You said, you spend a lot of time with John
- 17:11Speaker 5: o'keith's family. Can you elaborate?
- 17:13Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I.
- 17:15Speaker 15: Feel like in this case, what's been lost is really
- 17:18Speaker 15: John O'Keeffe. You know, it's known as the Karen Read case,
- 17:21Speaker 15: but it really should be the jonal'keif case. He's the
- 17:22Speaker 15: one that lost his life. Karen's been through a lot,
- 17:25Speaker 15: and you know, she truly was the victim of a
- 17:27Speaker 15: conspiracy and she was railroaded and framed. That's a terrible thing,
- 17:30Speaker 15: but at least she's alive to fight and clear her
- 17:32Speaker 15: name and enjoy time in her life. John o'keef's dead,
- 17:35Speaker 15: you know, so I wanted in The family has no answers,
- 17:38Speaker 15: you know, they have no closure, So I really wanted
- 17:40Speaker 15: to try to take a journey with the family. How
- 17:43Speaker 15: does that feel? What does it look like for the family?
- 17:44Speaker 15: You know, what have they gone through? And they've gone
- 17:46Speaker 15: through some pretty terrible stuff.
- 17:48Speaker 5: I think, do you think we'll come out with any
- 17:50Speaker 5: more answers? You know, during all of the civil cases.
- 17:53Speaker 15: I think a lot more information will come out during
- 17:55Speaker 15: the civil cases.
- 17:55Speaker 1: It already has.
- 17:56Speaker 15: I mean, every time someone files a pleading in these cases,
- 17:59Speaker 15: there's also to new information. And I think there's so
- 18:02Speaker 15: many lawyers involved in so many people involved, that I
- 18:05Speaker 15: think will get closer and closer to maybe some sort
- 18:08Speaker 15: of closure for the family as it goes on. But
- 18:10Speaker 15: it could end up, you know, she could be found
- 18:12Speaker 15: not responsible and all the other cases could go away
- 18:15Speaker 15: and the family still will have no answers.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Well, all things considered, the killer is still out there.
- 18:22Speaker 15: Depends on who you believe. I mean, you know, it
- 18:24Speaker 15: depends on who you believe. The family thinks that Karen
- 18:27Speaker 15: Reid did it. You know, they think that she did
- 18:29Speaker 15: it and just was not convicted. If you believe the
- 18:32Speaker 15: conspiracy theory, then yeah, the person that did it is
- 18:34Speaker 15: still out there, you know, just like the OJ case.
- 18:36Speaker 15: You know, they're still looking. OJ is still for the killer.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Well that's what I meant by all things considered, based
- 18:41Speaker 2: on the verdict and everything else.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Well, we don't have a killer yet.
- 18:44Speaker 15: And the thing is is, even if you think Karen
- 18:46Speaker 15: Reid did it, she can't be tried again. Even if
- 18:49Speaker 15: there's new evidence, it's done. The case is over. Karen
- 18:51Speaker 15: Reid will not be tried for John o'keith's murder again.
- 18:54Speaker 15: It's against the law.
- 18:55Speaker 3: Did you talk to Karen Reid? Did you talk to
- 18:57Speaker 3: Alan Jackson?
- 18:58Speaker 15: I sat with Karen a couple of times. As I said,
- 19:01Speaker 15: she decided not to cooperate with me and talk to
- 19:03Speaker 15: me for the book. She's doing her own book. Alan
- 19:06Speaker 15: Jackson I've talked to several times and same thing. He's
- 19:09Speaker 15: actually partnered with Karen on a project. They've got to
- 19:13Speaker 15: deal with some Hollywood agency where they're trying to develop
- 19:16Speaker 15: a project on their own. And I think they're trying
- 19:18Speaker 15: to do a book.
- 19:18Speaker 1: And they've already been what two movies.
- 19:20Speaker 15: There's been a I think there was a TV movie,
- 19:23Speaker 15: and I think there's a mini series in development now
- 19:25Speaker 15: with Elizabeth Banks. And then Matt Damon just announced last
- 19:29Speaker 15: ye he's doing something. And I'm actually headed out to
- 19:32Speaker 15: la in a couple of weeks to do some stuff
- 19:35Speaker 15: for this book, and I have some meetings out there, so.
- 19:37Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes.
- 19:38Speaker 10: You know.
- 19:39Speaker 2: We're talking to Dave Wedge, author New York Times best
- 19:42Speaker 2: selling author and the new book Blizzard of Lies, which
- 19:45Speaker 2: is kind of a follow up to the whole Karen
- 19:47Speaker 2: Read case, focusing more.
- 19:48Speaker 1: So on John o'caife, keeping in mind he's the only
- 19:51Speaker 1: one that died.
- 19:52Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I wouldn't say I focus more on the okies.
- 19:56Speaker 15: It's you know, I'm a journalist. I tried to tell
- 19:58Speaker 15: the story right down the middle. I try to and
- 20:00Speaker 15: all the scenarios and let the reader decide for themselves
- 20:02Speaker 15: what happened. I don't have a take my job here
- 20:05Speaker 15: is going to solve the crime. I'm not a sleuth,
- 20:06Speaker 15: I'm not a detective. I'm a journalist.
- 20:09Speaker 1: I'm a reporter.
- 20:09Speaker 15: I'm a storyteller. And I think when you read this book,
- 20:11Speaker 15: you'll get the full picture of what happened in this
- 20:13Speaker 15: case as it unfolded in and out of the courtroom.
- 20:16Speaker 1: And that was kind of my mission here.
- 20:18Speaker 2: And so many of your books are being turned into
- 20:22Speaker 2: TV series or documentaries or that's pretty good.
- 20:26Speaker 15: It's a Hollywood's an interesting place, you know, it's a
- 20:30Speaker 15: lot of fun. But it's frustrating he hit walls. But
- 20:32Speaker 15: I've had some luck with the Whitey project with Hulu
- 20:35Speaker 15: and Ben and we had Patriots Day obviously with Mark
- 20:38Speaker 15: Wahlberg and the Marvin haglerbook that we spoke about that's
- 20:41Speaker 15: with Sam Rockwell owns the rights to that. Oh and
- 20:44Speaker 15: Rosie Perez who was in White Men Can't Jump, and
- 20:48Speaker 15: they're developing it and we just got a great filmmaker
- 20:51Speaker 15: on board. I can't say her name yet, but she's
- 20:53Speaker 15: great and we hope to have some good news on
- 20:55Speaker 15: that one. Ryan Hagler, Well, it'll have to be a
- 20:58Speaker 15: newcomer because he's it's young Marvin. It's like seventeen to
- 21:02Speaker 15: twenty five Marvin. So I'm excited about that.
- 21:05Speaker 3: When while Hunting Whitey come out.
- 21:07Speaker 15: It should come out sometime early next year. We don't
- 21:09Speaker 15: have an exact day or date yet, but we wrap
- 21:11Speaker 15: on it in November, so it's it's it's gonna be good.
- 21:14Speaker 15: It's a three part docu series, but there's a lot
- 21:17Speaker 15: of recreations we I think you saw. We've done some
- 21:20Speaker 15: filming down in Marshfield. They have an actor that's going
- 21:23Speaker 15: to be doing some some Whitey monologues and stuff. So
- 21:26Speaker 15: it's going to be a really cool project.
- 21:28Speaker 1: What's Karen been up to?
- 21:29Speaker 15: You know Ben Iffleck?
- 21:30Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, how did Ben become a part of this? Dave?
- 21:34Speaker 15: Well, you know, with as Billy said, a lot of
- 21:37Speaker 15: my books kind of get to the places that they
- 21:39Speaker 15: need to get and producers and studios think about them.
- 21:42Speaker 15: And we had some meetings with Ben and his team
- 21:44Speaker 15: Artist Equity, and they just loved the story. They loved
- 21:47Speaker 15: our take on it, so.
- 21:47Speaker 1: We partnered it up to do it, and so it's
- 21:50Speaker 1: pretty good.
- 21:50Speaker 15: Yeah, as far as Karen goes, I think Karen, I
- 21:53Speaker 15: don't know. You have to ask Karen what she is
- 21:55Speaker 15: up to. But I mean, I see what you guys
- 21:57Speaker 15: all see. I see around on social media. I think
- 21:59Speaker 15: she's still around Boston and she's trying to rebuild her life,
- 22:01Speaker 15: you know, and what she should be, you know, And
- 22:04Speaker 15: I think, you know, that's a tough spot for someone
- 22:06Speaker 15: to be in, you know, no matter what. If she's
- 22:08Speaker 15: truly innocent, it's horrible if she's if she's being mistreated.
- 22:12Speaker 15: But I don't think she is. I think a lot
- 22:13Speaker 15: of people I start an interview with her on one
- 22:15Speaker 15: of the shows, and she was saying that people celebrate
- 22:18Speaker 15: her when she's out in public. So I think she's
- 22:20Speaker 15: just trying to rebuild her life.
- 22:21Speaker 1: I gotta ask.
- 22:22Speaker 2: A lot of people have been paying attention to the
- 22:25Speaker 2: Lindsay Clancy story.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Likening it, liking it, likening it.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Okay, I got it right the third time to Karen
- 22:32Speaker 2: read and everything, and will it or should it have
- 22:34Speaker 2: as much attention as to Karen read case A, what
- 22:37Speaker 2: are your feelings?
- 22:38Speaker 1: And B are you already working on the bar?
- 22:41Speaker 7: No, I'm not.
- 22:42Speaker 15: I'm definitely not. I'm done with tragedy for a little while.
- 22:46Speaker 15: I get burned out on that. And that's why I
- 22:47Speaker 15: did the Marvin Hagler book after I did some true
- 22:49Speaker 15: crime stuff, and I think my next one i'll pivot
- 22:52Speaker 15: away from like true crime, breaking news. I have a
- 22:54Speaker 15: couple ideas. But you know, look that that's a terrible tragedy.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Again.
- 22:59Speaker 15: But I think the the fact that you're asking me
- 23:01Speaker 15: that question and people talking about it in the way
- 23:03Speaker 15: they are is the legacy of the Karen Reid case.
- 23:06Speaker 15: The media impact on the courtroom. Now, every case is
- 23:10Speaker 15: a scandal. Every case. This social media sleuthing, and there's
- 23:13Speaker 15: people digging through the Internet and trying to find connections
- 23:16Speaker 15: and corruption and this and that. This Karen Read case,
- 23:19Speaker 15: and I write about it a lot in the book.
- 23:20Speaker 15: It really changed the justice system here in Massachusetts, may
- 23:24Speaker 15: have changed it across the country. I think Alan Jackson
- 23:28Speaker 15: and David Yanetti, whatever you think happened in this case,
- 23:30Speaker 15: they created a playbook now for how to really infiltrate
- 23:35Speaker 15: the court system and change.
- 23:37Speaker 2: The narrative your book is on the shelf at Milton
- 23:42Speaker 2: Marketplace alongside well part of Lisa's pop up.
- 23:45Speaker 5: Yah, it's the Lisa's book Club pop up in Milton
- 23:48Speaker 5: and Hingham. Yeah, you can find Blizzard of Lies on
- 23:51Speaker 5: the shelf as well as your cookbook.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Billy by Local.
- 23:54Speaker 15: We love the fast center.
- 23:56Speaker 5: We do in my family lives support local and I
- 23:58Speaker 5: think we will be doing a book club at the
- 24:00Speaker 5: Milton Marketplace at the new restaurant Julianne's with Dave in
- 24:04Speaker 5: the next month.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Oh wow, detail, And I hope you can come, Billy,
- 24:07Speaker 2: imagine that a book club in your hometown.
- 24:09Speaker 11: Day.
- 24:10Speaker 15: I want to sign and walk to though.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you what if you do Lisa's book
- 24:14Speaker 2: club at the Milton Marketplace, I'll come.
- 24:16Speaker 1: You can sign your book to me and I'll sign
- 24:18Speaker 1: I mine and Jenny's book.
- 24:20Speaker 15: I sounds like a deal, yeah to you and Dave.
- 24:22Speaker 6: You can buy his cookbook. It's on Amazon for four bucks.
- 24:25Speaker 8: All right?
- 24:26Speaker 1: Why did you know that wasn't true? That was a
- 24:28Speaker 1: whole chapter designed by your son.
- 24:30Speaker 6: It's three bucks. Sorry.
- 24:31Speaker 7: I buy your book on Amazon.
- 24:35Speaker 3: From the Planet Fitness Kiss one of eight studios. We're
- 24:39Speaker 3: back with Villy and Lisa in the morning.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Okay, it's National Talking and Elevator Day.
- 24:44Speaker 7: Now.
- 24:44Speaker 2: I don't know who gets together and makes up these names,
- 24:47Speaker 2: what the national holiday is or the national day of
- 24:49Speaker 2: the year is.
- 24:50Speaker 1: It's like but talking an elevator. But it got us
- 24:52Speaker 1: all talking right or very early this morning, Like we
- 24:57Speaker 1: all have different thoughts about elevators.
- 24:59Speaker 3: But it's like elevator etiquette, right, like what should you do?
- 25:02Speaker 3: What shouldn't you do? It's also just.
- 25:05Speaker 4: It's small talk, is what it is when you're in
- 25:07Speaker 4: an elevator, whether you avoid it or not. Okay, And
- 25:11Speaker 4: earlier I had posed a question, what do we think
- 25:14Speaker 4: Bill would do if he's getting into an elevator and
- 25:16Speaker 4: he sees somebody coming down the hall?
- 25:20Speaker 6: Does he hold the door or does he press door closed?
- 25:24Speaker 14: That?
- 25:24Speaker 16: That was the question justin really what would Billy do?
- 25:29Speaker 17: I mean, we've had you know.
- 25:31Speaker 6: Racelests to say, w W JD, what would Jesus do?
- 25:33Speaker 1: But if you asked, what would Billy do?
- 25:36Speaker 17: Yeah, we all know, all of the audiences.
- 25:38Speaker 6: Know Billy would shut the door at all.
- 25:42Speaker 8: That door closed when.
- 25:43Speaker 6: And how possible so no one else can join. That
- 25:47Speaker 6: is Billy.
- 25:47Speaker 7: That is Billy to the character if he would hold
- 25:50Speaker 7: it open.
- 25:51Speaker 6: Now we have a different conversation.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, sorry, it's I have to agree with
- 25:56Speaker 3: the talk about.
- 25:57Speaker 1: You, right Bill. Well, for me, it depends on the
- 26:01Speaker 1: time of day.
- 26:02Speaker 2: I think, like when I'm coming in here at four
- 26:05Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, I don't really want any small talk.
- 26:09Speaker 2: You know, people get on the elevator all of a
- 26:11Speaker 2: sudden they want to ask you about your day or
- 26:13Speaker 2: what's the first.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Thing they say? Cold?
- 26:15Speaker 6: Huh, okay, what's the weather.
- 26:17Speaker 1: I know it's cold, leave me alone. So early in
- 26:20Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, And we recently.
- 26:24Speaker 2: Acquired a new tenant here and it's caused the building
- 26:29Speaker 2: to get very busy, very busy.
- 26:31Speaker 10: Right.
- 26:32Speaker 2: So now when you used to just jump on an
- 26:34Speaker 2: elevator by yourself, no problem. There are multiple elevators here,
- 26:38Speaker 2: but now the elevators are very busy and there are
- 26:41Speaker 2: constant So now you're waiting for the elevator, and when
- 26:43Speaker 2: you get the elevator, it's.
- 26:45Speaker 5: Loaded with This happened to me literally yesterday, like I
- 26:48Speaker 5: was waiting. It was you know, it was after the show, like, well,
- 26:51Speaker 5: we were here for those meetings, so it was midday
- 26:54Speaker 5: and the elevator was packed, and I was just like,
- 26:57Speaker 5: you know.
- 26:57Speaker 3: What, I'm going to wait. I'm just going to wait
- 26:59Speaker 3: for another elevator. I'm a little clustrophobic sometimes in elevator.
- 27:02Speaker 6: So it's a very small space, very small space.
- 27:05Speaker 1: The new client is also like a medical care place.
- 27:08Speaker 6: It's can we be careful here?
- 27:10Speaker 2: Now?
- 27:10Speaker 1: I'm just being realistic.
- 27:12Speaker 2: I mean, there's a chance a lot of people getting
- 27:14Speaker 2: on board could be sick, you know, so why not
- 27:19Speaker 2: wait for another elevat.
- 27:20Speaker 6: What kind of Lisa? What a medical place is this?
- 27:23Speaker 1: Well, they're all coming in for treatment.
- 27:25Speaker 3: Yeah, it's they're coming in, which is fine.
- 27:27Speaker 6: I think it's great that we have to hear it,
- 27:29Speaker 6: just as long as they're not near you.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Right. No, My thing is why risk it? Right? If
- 27:37Speaker 1: you don't have to, we can take the stairs.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Yeah, and now, by the way, because of the crowds, now,
- 27:43Speaker 2: I take the back stairwell leaving.
- 27:45Speaker 6: Wow, Lisa.
- 27:46Speaker 4: He also admitted off the air Billy that if he's
- 27:50Speaker 4: coming out of the parking garage to the elevator, okay,
- 27:53Speaker 4: he opens the door and he sees somebody about to
- 27:56Speaker 4: get in his elevator or the elevator, he'll turn around,
- 27:59Speaker 4: go back in the garage and wait for them to
- 28:01Speaker 4: get on, and he'll take the next one.
- 28:03Speaker 3: Wow, you really are avoidant.
- 28:04Speaker 1: I don't want the small talk.
- 28:06Speaker 3: Okay, Well, in the morning.
- 28:07Speaker 5: It's usually people that work for iHeart right, because everybody's
- 28:11Speaker 5: aware of all the different radio stations I know.
- 28:14Speaker 3: But it's nice to say hi to them there there
- 28:16Speaker 3: are coworking.
- 28:17Speaker 6: I agree, Okay, my day is fine.
- 28:19Speaker 4: And then my take is that I'm not a huge
- 28:21Speaker 4: fan of small talk, but I do not stand awkwardly
- 28:24Speaker 4: in the elevator.
- 28:25Speaker 6: I will say something right now.
- 28:27Speaker 2: How you initiated him talk?
- 28:31Speaker 6: Yeah, it's awkward.
- 28:33Speaker 1: It's also a fake you don't care about their day.
- 28:35Speaker 6: That's that's irrelevance. I'm just being nice, but it's.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Very relevant because you're pretending you have interest in this person. O.
- 28:41Speaker 6: These are like superficial small talk questions.
- 28:43Speaker 7: Right.
- 28:44Speaker 5: If it's someone that you know that works like in
- 28:46Speaker 5: the traffic I'll be like, hey, what you know is
- 28:48Speaker 5: anything happening?
- 28:49Speaker 3: Is anything popping in the traffic world?
- 28:52Speaker 1: Like you know their name? No, I don't know some
- 28:54Speaker 1: of them.
- 28:54Speaker 3: I know their names, but I'm like, is there anything
- 28:56Speaker 3: happening that I should know about?
- 28:58Speaker 5: Us I'm walking into the office that they're a traffic person.
- 29:02Speaker 5: I know all of those traffic people because I'm.
- 29:06Speaker 6: What she does every day.
- 29:08Speaker 5: So I need to have a good working relationship with them.
- 29:11Speaker 5: So if I see them in the elevator, I'm going
- 29:13Speaker 5: to say hi, you know, good morning?
- 29:15Speaker 6: No you say you know? What do you say?
- 29:18Speaker 1: You say?
- 29:18Speaker 6: What's popping?
- 29:24Speaker 7: Wait?
- 29:25Speaker 4: Okay, So say you get stuck in the elevator, You're
- 29:28Speaker 4: you stare at the floor.
- 29:29Speaker 6: You don't make any small talk with the person.
- 29:32Speaker 1: No, if triggered, I will, But you're hoping it's not
- 29:35Speaker 1: going to be triggered. Let's just stand here and wait
- 29:38Speaker 1: to get off. There's no meaning to it. There's no
- 29:42Speaker 1: purpose to it. You go and sit in your car.
- 29:45Speaker 1: When what do you think of that weather? Huh Like
- 29:47Speaker 1: it's so fake.
- 29:49Speaker 6: Yeah, he hides in the garage. That is true. I
- 29:51Speaker 6: go back in the garage or he'll hit the button. Billy,
- 29:53Speaker 6: We all know you can't hit that button.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Past enough.
- 29:55Speaker 6: All right, come on, come on, come on, I'm billy.
- 30:00Speaker 5: Okay, here's another question for the group. If you see
- 30:05Speaker 5: someone coming in, okay from the double doors, you think
- 30:08Speaker 5: you're waiting in the elevator area.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Uh huh.
- 30:11Speaker 3: Will you hold the door for them?
- 30:14Speaker 1: Yes, I have done it. If it's at all possible
- 30:21Speaker 1: to avoid getting caught, I'll do it.
- 30:24Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 30:25Speaker 7: If Billy notices all behind him, something feet his speech
- 30:28Speaker 7: just so, it's situation.
- 30:30Speaker 1: You have to make sure he doesn't.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Have to hold that door though.
- 30:33Speaker 1: All right.
- 30:33Speaker 2: You have to be able to pretend you didn't see them, Yeah, exactly.
- 30:36Speaker 2: And then last minute if they catch up and then
- 30:38Speaker 2: they put their arm between the doors, yeah, and then you.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Have to say you have to be ready. He's like,
- 30:43Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh I didn't see you, Oh my god. Hi,
- 30:47Speaker 1: And then I'll ask them cold huh.
- 30:51Speaker 6: Is that what you actually say?
- 30:53Speaker 1: Something like that?
- 30:54Speaker 2: Right?
- 30:54Speaker 6: Oh man, that's so funny.
- 30:56Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 30:56Speaker 17: I'm in the elevator with someone I know. We'll probably
- 31:00Speaker 17: make small talk. But if it's a stranger, please don't
- 31:04Speaker 17: talk to me. Elevators are small and awkward and quiet. Anyway,
- 31:08Speaker 17: you're just going to make it more awkward trying to talk.
- 31:11Speaker 6: No, I disagree with that.
- 31:12Speaker 4: I think it's more awkward to say nothing and stare
- 31:14Speaker 4: at your phone or stare at the floor, and I
- 31:16Speaker 4: feel like it's rude.
- 31:17Speaker 6: I don't want to do small talk.
- 31:19Speaker 1: But a stranger, yeah, you feel the need to tell.
- 31:22Speaker 6: You have to pick the situation out right.
- 31:24Speaker 4: If they maybe if like they have a coffee, I'll
- 31:26Speaker 4: make a comment on the coffee, maybe even the weather.
- 31:29Speaker 3: I yeah, I don't. If I don't know the person,
- 31:31Speaker 3: I'm just sort of staring at my.
- 31:34Speaker 1: May not want to engage in small talk. They're probably
- 31:36Speaker 1: trying to avoid you.
- 31:39Speaker 4: Likely but personally I feel weird and it makes it
- 31:42Speaker 4: more awkward if I say nothing, Wow, I can't say hi.
- 31:47Speaker 3: I think you can say hi. Yeah, you can say hi.
- 31:49Speaker 3: I say hi, Okay.
- 31:50Speaker 17: If I'm in the elevator, especially with one or two
- 31:54Speaker 17: other people, I'm not just going to stand.
- 31:56Speaker 3: There all awkward and looking down at my phone. I'm
- 31:59Speaker 3: definitely the to say, hey, how's it going, and that's it.
- 32:03Speaker 1: That's it.
- 32:04Speaker 3: I'll give a smile and be on my way.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 32:06Speaker 6: I'm with her. They just yeah, hey, yeah, but you
- 32:10Speaker 6: don't care how it's going.
- 32:13Speaker 1: Being a phony doesn't matter.
- 32:14Speaker 3: If I care, I always say I always look up
- 32:16Speaker 3: and say hi, but I don't.
- 32:17Speaker 7: I don't have to.
- 32:18Speaker 14: Like I'll give a little nod, maybe nod like a little.
- 32:25Speaker 3: You are so unfriendly. He is so unfriendly in the elevator.
- 32:29Speaker 2: I witnessed it well, because getting onto the morning elevator,
- 32:33Speaker 2: you've got a lot on your mind, right, You've to
- 32:35Speaker 2: show on your mind. You've got little thoughts running through
- 32:37Speaker 2: your head. You don't want to interrupt those thoughts.
- 32:39Speaker 1: And then and the end of the day, you've had it.
- 32:42Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we talk a lot, but I think
- 32:45Speaker 6: it's the polite, polite thing to do. That's what I
- 32:47Speaker 6: think it is.
- 32:48Speaker 3: It is more polite.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Yeah, who said that?
- 32:50Speaker 6: At least say hi, yeah, hi, oh, hi, hey, hey,
- 32:55Speaker 6: good morning.
- 32:57Speaker 1: I do an occasional good morning. Okay.
- 33:00Speaker 11: In an elevator at a hospital with my father and
- 33:04Speaker 11: we were leaving, the doors opened. A older woman came
- 33:09Speaker 11: into the elevator and my father said, do you have
- 33:13Speaker 11: to go to P two. She looked at him and
- 33:20Speaker 11: they both started cracking up, realizing he was talking about parking.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Good by the way, crowded elevator. You're off the hook.
- 33:31Speaker 1: You don't have to say anything. Yeah, oh, you're a
- 33:33Speaker 1: bunch of people. Everybody.
- 33:35Speaker 6: Yeah, we're talking one on one good morning morning crew.
- 33:38Speaker 9: This is Aaron from bill Ricca. I worked in hotels
- 33:42Speaker 9: for a very long time and do better. Believe that
- 33:46Speaker 9: I made sure to get in that elevator and shut
- 33:49Speaker 9: the door before Scott there. And then the trick was
- 33:53Speaker 9: to hold down the button and you could skip the
- 33:55Speaker 9: floors to get to where you needed to go.
- 33:58Speaker 6: Wow.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Wow, that's the elevator. I've never heard that one.
- 34:02Speaker 6: Yeah, people will do anything to make small talk.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Huh.
- 34:05Speaker 8: I will go so far to avoid small talk.
- 34:07Speaker 11: If I see somebody in the suitmarket that I want
- 34:09Speaker 11: to avoid, I will whip my card around.
- 34:12Speaker 7: Go a few miles over, and then carefully backtracked, but
- 34:15Speaker 7: peeking downy gild to make sure you can.
- 34:17Speaker 13: See that.
- 34:19Speaker 5: It's Kisa and we're back with a Billy and Lisa
- 34:23Speaker 5: in the Morning.
- 34:24Speaker 4: Good morning, everybody. Let's wrap up the Monday Show. Thank
- 34:26Speaker 4: you so much for listening. If you missed any of it,
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- 34:40Speaker 4: to Chris Brown and Usher tonight Atchulotte Stadium, please leave
- 34:43Speaker 4: us a talkback.
- 34:44Speaker 6: Review the show. Let us know how it was.
- 34:46Speaker 4: We're hearing great things about that Usher show. But before
- 34:50Speaker 4: we go, we have a very special guest on the phone.
- 34:52Speaker 4: This is gonna be a real treat. Governor more Healy,
- 34:55Speaker 4: Good morning, madam, Governor.
- 34:58Speaker 7: Good morning, Billy.
- 35:00Speaker 1: I got to tell you, how are you doing? We're
- 35:02Speaker 1: doing good.
- 35:03Speaker 2: I got to tell you on behalf of concert lovers,
- 35:07Speaker 2: music lovers, sports fans, everybody, a large thank you for
- 35:12Speaker 2: getting involved in the scalping in the resale market yesterday.
- 35:16Speaker 7: Oh you're welcome, you know. I mean, look, we all
- 35:19Speaker 7: love music, we love going to see shows. We love
- 35:21Speaker 7: seeing our favorite artists. You know, whether it's a small venue.
- 35:25Speaker 7: I mean, I grew up as a control with just
- 35:26Speaker 7: at Hnton Beach Casino seeing shows when I was younger,
- 35:30Speaker 7: to the amazing venues we had in Boston and Massachusetts.
- 35:34Speaker 7: This is just about making sure that people don't have
- 35:37Speaker 7: to continue to like hold their hair out, go online
- 35:41Speaker 7: wait forever, you know, never be able to buy the
- 35:44Speaker 7: tickets and have that experience. Or if they buy the tickets,
- 35:47Speaker 7: I mean, they're just gouged so much and you shouldn't
- 35:49Speaker 7: have to, you know, pay a month's rent or worriage
- 35:52Speaker 7: your home to see some of these artists. Right, So
- 35:54Speaker 7: it's just about fairness and I want to change that
- 35:57Speaker 7: for folks in Massachusetts, have you ever been.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Gouged yourself for a ticket this sporting event or a concert?
- 36:04Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I mean I think all of us
- 36:06Speaker 7: have paid more than we'd liked to write because you
- 36:09Speaker 7: want to see you know, you want to see a show,
- 36:11Speaker 7: you want to see your artist. I've never had the
- 36:14Speaker 7: experience that I know some people have, which I'm also
- 36:17Speaker 7: looking to ban, which is ghost ticketing, speculative ticketing. I
- 36:21Speaker 7: mean we've heard, you know recently for example the World Cup.
- 36:25Speaker 7: We've also seen a someta the other shows. Right, you
- 36:28Speaker 7: go online, you think you've bought the ticket, and then
- 36:31Speaker 7: you show up at the venue only to find out
- 36:33Speaker 7: the ticket was never transferred, it never really existed. So
- 36:37Speaker 7: you know, it's just fraud. It's predatory. And I think
- 36:42Speaker 7: what we're doing by proposing a cap on resale value
- 36:47Speaker 7: at one hundred and ten percent, so you pay one
- 36:49Speaker 7: hundred dollars a ticket for one hundred dollars, it can
- 36:52Speaker 7: only be resold for one hundred and ten dollars, okay,
- 36:57Speaker 7: and the service these which also really get you also
- 37:02Speaker 7: are going to be capped at just ten percent. So
- 37:06Speaker 7: you know, these things I think should help and you know,
- 37:11Speaker 7: make a difference in terms of just making tickets more
- 37:13Speaker 7: available to you know, regular folks, because right now it's
- 37:20Speaker 7: all private equity companies that run these major sale operations,
- 37:24Speaker 7: right and you know, it's only a lot of times
- 37:27Speaker 7: it's just super wealthy or people who are paying way
- 37:30Speaker 7: more than you know, they can probably afford to get
- 37:33Speaker 7: to a lot of these shows, and we've got to
- 37:35Speaker 7: change that.
- 37:35Speaker 2: It's kind of cool that you partnered with Noah Kan.
- 37:39Speaker 2: You know, I saw the red phone sitting there when
- 37:41Speaker 2: you started the press conference and I said, somebody's going
- 37:44Speaker 2: to be calling in to the governor.
- 37:46Speaker 1: That was very cool.
- 37:49Speaker 7: Well, he is really cool. I mean I'm a huge
- 37:52Speaker 7: Noah Kan fan. I love what he's done, especially around
- 37:55Speaker 7: mental health. He's a New England hero, right and you know,
- 37:59Speaker 7: we just we love his music, we love who he
- 38:02Speaker 7: is as a person. And one of the things that
- 38:04Speaker 7: I became aware of is that he's been this champion
- 38:07Speaker 7: for artists and for fans on this issue of ticket reselling.
- 38:12Speaker 7: And so he was in town last week, you know,
- 38:17Speaker 7: first Fantastic Four nights at Fenway, and we talked to
- 38:21Speaker 7: his team and talked to him, and you know, I
- 38:24Speaker 7: thought we could do something about this because he's been
- 38:26Speaker 7: talking about it, and so I said, let's go for it.
- 38:28Speaker 7: Let's uh, let's make sure we take action here in Massachusetts.
- 38:32Speaker 7: And yeah, he's he's super guy. And uh, as I say,
- 38:35Speaker 7: great for fans and also great for artists, yes, technic artists,
- 38:39Speaker 7: and I think that's important too.
- 38:42Speaker 2: And it's a nice thinkure named that the Great Divide
- 38:44Speaker 2: to Act. So what's next for the bill? Uh?
- 38:49Speaker 11: Yep.
- 38:49Speaker 7: So look, as Governor, I filed this bill and then
- 38:52Speaker 7: I will work with the legislature and you know, folks
- 38:55Speaker 7: can can let it be known that they think this
- 38:57Speaker 7: is a good idea and we'll look to get this
- 39:01Speaker 7: done and have you signed it into law, and you know,
- 39:04Speaker 7: implement it as soon as possible. So yes, love Gracie
- 39:07Speaker 7: Abrams when she comes. I want more people to have year.
- 39:10Speaker 2: You're in March, right, Yeah, well you know, well see
- 39:14Speaker 2: what we can do to get you some Gracy Abrams tickets.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Listen.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Since we have you, this has been an incredible couple
- 39:22Speaker 2: of months here in Massachusetts and in the Boston area.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Between the World Cup and Sale Boston, which just finished
- 39:30Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. On a personal level, for
- 39:34Speaker 2: you as governor, what are your favorite memories from those experiences.
- 39:39Speaker 7: Well, no Scotland, no party, right, guys and kelts running
- 39:44Speaker 7: all over the city, drinking us out of our beer,
- 39:47Speaker 7: putting cones everywhere. I think the majesty of the tall ships.
- 39:52Speaker 7: For people who don't know, these are ships that come
- 39:54Speaker 7: from over fifty countries around the world. There are ships
- 39:58Speaker 7: that are a couple hundred years old and they sail
- 40:01Speaker 7: into Boston Harbor. They're on display with their crews. You've
- 40:04Speaker 7: seen a lot of sailors in downtown Boston if you're
- 40:09Speaker 7: walking around lately, and it's just a great chance. You know,
- 40:14Speaker 7: it was just really beautiful to see that image of
- 40:17Speaker 7: these ships coming into the harbor. I also think for
- 40:22Speaker 7: those who didn't see it, go back and even check
- 40:24Speaker 7: out the video. Are Boston Pops celebration on the Esplanage.
- 40:28Speaker 7: I thought fantastic, not just the fireworks, not just the pops.
- 40:32Speaker 7: We had great performers. We also had a drone show.
- 40:36Speaker 7: It was super cool, and you know, these are just
- 40:40Speaker 7: some of the some of the things. But I think
- 40:41Speaker 7: more than anything. Massachusetts showed who we are. Oh yeah,
- 40:45Speaker 7: you know, high energy. It was fun, it was safe. Look,
- 40:49Speaker 7: as governor, I care a lot about public safety and
- 40:52Speaker 7: public transit. Everything worked really well, right. We had trains
- 40:55Speaker 7: down and back to Gillette that worked super well. We
- 40:59Speaker 7: had you know, really safe experiences in Boston around the
- 41:03Speaker 7: state celebrating World Cup. And what I loved was to
- 41:07Speaker 7: see people hanging out with one another, right, Bostonians, people
- 41:10Speaker 7: from Massachusetts with people from all over the world, different cultures,
- 41:14Speaker 7: like having fun. And you know, we need that joy, right,
- 41:18Speaker 7: Like we need that vibe and that energy. And it
- 41:20Speaker 7: was a chance to remember who we are and what
- 41:23Speaker 7: Massachusetts also brings to the world, like this is who
- 41:26Speaker 7: we are, this is the kind of people we are.
- 41:28Speaker 2: I love that you said that because I remember a
- 41:31Speaker 2: specific moment. I was walking the streets of Boston with
- 41:33Speaker 2: my wife Michelle. It was a beautiful weekend and the
- 41:36Speaker 2: Scots were in and the Vikings were in, and the
- 41:39Speaker 2: streets were crowded with people and.
- 41:41Speaker 1: It just felt so good. It just seemed like it
- 41:44Speaker 1: put a smile on everybody's face.
- 41:47Speaker 7: It did, and then we were able to do some
- 41:49Speaker 7: things that you know, I want to support permanently extending
- 41:52Speaker 7: bar hours right for bars and restaurants. Yes, allowing people
- 41:56Speaker 7: you know to be in and outside areas right with
- 42:02Speaker 7: the outdoor our space, or you know, blocks based on streets,
- 42:05Speaker 7: and you know these are good innovations. You know, I think,
- 42:08Speaker 7: look life hard, right, Like I'm working every day to
- 42:11Speaker 7: try to lower housing costs, lower healthcare costs, lower gas
- 42:14Speaker 7: and electric bills. Right, it's a job as governor and
- 42:16Speaker 7: try to drive our economy and creat jobs. And also
- 42:20Speaker 7: you know, it's important that we find opportunities for people
- 42:23Speaker 7: to have fun and enjoy life, you know, here in
- 42:26Speaker 7: Greater Boston, in our state, and you know it's important.
- 42:30Speaker 7: It's important as well.
- 42:31Speaker 2: Well, you had a special visitor yesterday. You got to
- 42:34Speaker 2: meet the traffic cone from Scotland.
- 42:38Speaker 7: You know, I'm used to welcoming like we're in dignitaries
- 42:43Speaker 7: and had estates and all this thing. But the other day,
- 42:46Speaker 7: in fact, got to welcome an orange traffic cone. It's
- 42:50Speaker 7: the Logan Airport. Now, this, of course was a cone
- 42:53Speaker 7: that was presented to me in the Mare by these
- 42:56Speaker 7: couple of guys from Scotland. And they're taking this cone
- 43:02Speaker 7: from Scotland around the State. I think they'll be up
- 43:06Speaker 7: the state House today. Iconic cone and had a tracking
- 43:10Speaker 7: device you can actually follow us. Oh yeah, the cone
- 43:12Speaker 7: has gone, so I think they'll be by to see
- 43:15Speaker 7: me later. But you know, it's just what was cool
- 43:17Speaker 7: is they loved Boston so much in Massachusetts, and I
- 43:21Speaker 7: think we love the Scots and I think there's gonna
- 43:23Speaker 7: be a lot of tourism back and forth over the
- 43:25Speaker 7: years to come. We also raised the Scottish flag.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Yes, at the airport.
- 43:30Speaker 7: Yeah, because you know, I didn't know this, but they
- 43:33Speaker 7: pointed out and they came here in jobs that we
- 43:36Speaker 7: did not yet. We gave flags from like all over,
- 43:39Speaker 7: but we had not yet hung a Scottish flack.
- 43:42Speaker 1: So I think it was interview influencer that ye wow
- 43:48Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
- 43:49Speaker 4: And the Colones coming in here and Governor next hour,
- 43:51Speaker 4: the Cone is coming into the studio a lot.
- 43:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:53Speaker 7: Oh my god, you're gonna love Andrew and Danny. Those
- 43:56Speaker 7: guys are hilarious.
- 43:58Speaker 1: I hope they leave the Cone.
- 43:59Speaker 2: If they leave the Cone, I'll make you a promise, Okay,
- 44:02Speaker 2: mar if they leave the Cone, we will give it
- 44:05Speaker 2: to you because you've got a lot of beautiful stuff
- 44:07Speaker 2: in your office. And you get to add the cone
- 44:09Speaker 2: to your collection.
- 44:11Speaker 7: Well, I okay, I'm not good. Okay, do you need
- 44:15Speaker 7: to be Billy.
- 44:18Speaker 1: One more thing before you leave? I want to rewind
- 44:21Speaker 1: the tape for a minute. Did you say that you
- 44:24Speaker 1: were a waitress at the Hampton Beach Casino.
- 44:29Speaker 7: Yeah, you know that. You know the casino.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Oh, I know it.
- 44:32Speaker 7: Well.
- 44:32Speaker 2: I used to sneak into a lot of concerts there
- 44:35Speaker 2: when I was underage.
- 44:35Speaker 1: I'm just saying, oh, I love this job.
- 44:39Speaker 7: I love this job and I and I really love
- 44:42Speaker 7: that job. Yeah. I went to there at high school.
- 44:44Speaker 7: College actually be On law school is a great place
- 44:47Speaker 7: at the Beach Casino just over the border in New Hampshire.
- 44:51Speaker 7: A lot of shows, a lot of great artists. I
- 44:54Speaker 7: saw you know working there, and you know, I just
- 44:58Speaker 7: I love live music, I love our I love live theater, right,
- 45:03Speaker 7: and I want to continue to support with tax credits
- 45:06Speaker 7: and other things, you know, ways we can drive our
- 45:10Speaker 7: cultural economy, Support our musicians, support our artists, support our venues.
- 45:16Speaker 7: You know, it's it's really important for our quality of life,
- 45:19Speaker 7: right and for who we are. We want to be
- 45:21Speaker 7: able to be out and enjoy those things.
- 45:24Speaker 1: So well, Madam Governor.
- 45:25Speaker 7: That's a true story. I used to do a little loone.
- 45:28Speaker 17: I love black mini skirt.
- 45:29Speaker 7: And that both sides.
- 45:34Speaker 2: You are always cool to me, madam Governor, but now
- 45:37Speaker 2: you're even cooler.
- 45:38Speaker 1: Than you were before.
- 45:39Speaker 6: Before you go, Governor, we do have a talk back
- 45:41Speaker 6: for you here. I know your your time is precious,
- 45:43Speaker 6: but I want crew.
- 45:44Speaker 1: Good morning, love you all. George from Walpole here. I'm
- 45:49Speaker 1: a lawyer.
- 45:50Speaker 6: I was just listening to the.
- 45:51Speaker 16: Governor heally talking about, you know, the ticketmaster stuff, and
- 45:56Speaker 16: she mentioned something really really important.
- 45:58Speaker 1: I want to highlight she fought the legislation.
- 46:02Speaker 16: But everybody who supports this caused needs to call their
- 46:07Speaker 16: legislative delegation, their senators, their representatives to pass the bill.
- 46:12Speaker 1: There you go, Governor.
- 46:14Speaker 7: Awesome, George. George is right on.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it's a great place, isn't it more.
- 46:20Speaker 7: Yes, hey, it is. I'm proud of our state. I'm
- 46:23Speaker 7: proud of our people, right you know. And we got
- 46:26Speaker 7: our challenges for sure, and I'm trying to work on
- 46:27Speaker 7: them every day. But no place I'd rather live in
- 46:30Speaker 7: being in Massachusetts.