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If you give a Bigfoot pizza... · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  How do we want to start this? Should we start
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  with a disclaimer? Because we're talking about
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  Bigfoot, which is, I know for a lot of people,
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  a very serious topic. Hardcore Bigfoot people
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  out there. Yeah, and I don't think this is going
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  to be a serious episode, is it? It'll be as serious
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  as any of our other episodes. We'll make it as
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  serious as we want to make it. Yeah, like there
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  could be some serious parts in it. There could
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  also be a lot of unserious joking bits. There
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  could also just be a lot of bits in here. Yeah,
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  see, I misread, because Bree, you want to talk
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  about Bigfoot. I initially thought you said you
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  want to talk about Bitfoot, like just a bunch
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  of bits the whole episode. But I guess you're...
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  more serious than me about this bigfoot stuff
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  so i guess we can cut to the intro and then come
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  back and and let's uh we can start uh by just
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  saying if we're serious about bigfoot sounds
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  great welcome to our podcast where we take deep
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  dives looking at various topics through a paranormal
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  lens okay um i'm not serious about bigfoot brie
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  are you serious about bigfoot i don't know oh
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  it's such it's so bigfoot is so such an interesting
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  concept idea cryptid possibility like there's
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  so many people who have claimed to see claim
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  to have an experience claim to capture evidence
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  have found footprints of this supposed creature
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  that exists but nobody actually has like There's
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  no pictures. Hard proof of Bigfoot. That's what
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  I was going to say. Like, how can a creature
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  exist for so long and have been documented for
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  so many years for there to not be, like, to come
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  across like a body in the woods? Well, that's
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  the thing. So, there are new creatures being
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  discovered every day. But, they're not, they're
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  like... remote areas most of the time it's not
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  like every major city in america has a big yeah
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  like deep cave dwelling shrimp or bottom of the
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  marianas trench bacteria i don't know not a giant
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  large ape -like creature in the americas yeah
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  like there's there's parts of the wilderness
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  and like canada that are very hard to reach and
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  untouched by man but like some of these people
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  are seeing bigfoot in their backyard stealing
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  bird feeders and we are they sure that it's not
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  a bear sure they're not bear that's a great we're
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  from uh michigan right we've been to mackinac
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  island it's an island and they have like bigfoot
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  merch and stuff all these people coming in and
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  the local like paranormal groups and stuff like
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  there's no bigfoot sightings on here we're a
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  small island you'd think like how does bigfoot
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  get on this i just take a ferry with people it's
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  like that's where i'm just completely lost yeah
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  i mean it's funny you say that because i do have
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  bigfoot mackinaw island merch as a fun thing
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  It's a fun thing, but I don't... But why do they
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  have the merch? Clearly because people say there's
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  Bigfoot up there. People have 100 % seen it.
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  They claim to see it online and stuff. Yeah.
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  I think it's more of like, you know, Michigan
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  specifically, if we're talking about Michigan
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  and having the Bigfoot merch in Michigan and
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  Magna Island. Michigan has always... like broadcasted
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  that were or put out that were pure michigan
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  it's it's all nature like you come to michigan
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  to enjoy the outdoors and i i think of bigfoot
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  as like the mascot for the untouched or unblemished
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  natural resources of america and northern michigan
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  parts of michigan are that and that's what people
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  come to michigan for so to have the mascot of
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  bigfoot be represented by that and like used
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  as a sales sales point for mackinac island i
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  think makes sense in my brain because if you
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  think of bigfoot as a mascot instead of just
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  like oh bigfoot's been seen here that's why we
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  put them on merch it's like no not necessarily
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  Like, he's not seen on Mackinac Island. It's
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  just a representation of our natural resources.
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  There are people. But I think it's more of a,
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  you know, chicken and egg situation. I think
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  the merch and all the exposure of Bigfoot might
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  just prime people to be like, Bigfoot, Bigfoot?
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  Oh, that thing yesterday? It's like, oh yeah,
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  that thing might have been Bigfoot and not just,
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  I don't know, a bear? A large person? Okay, here's
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  the truth. Here's the truth. Mackinac Island.
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  If you want some real tea, like insider knowledge,
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  I don't even know if it's tea. It's more just
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  like inside scoop. Maybe tea. The locals may
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  not like that we're exposing the secret because
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  we can go down conspiracy. Should I say it? I
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  don't know what you're going to say, but say
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  it. Yeah, I don't even know what you're going
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  to say, so just say it. All the animals on Mackinac
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  are... bigger than they're supposed to be we
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  saw the most giant bugs the most giant spiders
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  the world's biggest the biggest logs and toads
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  and frogs on that island i've ever seen in my
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  life yeah they were and they're covering the
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  island at night literally when we went there
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  i think because we were i don't even remember
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  how late it was it was probably 3 a .m and we
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  were trying to traipse across the whole island
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  to get to our condo and there was just these
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  massive like four to five inch or probably longer
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  like more like six to eight inch long slugs just
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  all over the pavement everywhere and the giant
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  made you scream because it jumped and oh dude
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  that toad was oh i have a photo of me holding
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  it it's ginormous uh what a time what a time
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  i mean listen I almost believe there was Bigfoot
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  for a second there, when that giant toad leapt
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  in the air. Because then it casts a shadow, and
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  I'm like, Bigfoot! Ah! But no, it was just a
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  toad. Are there bears on the island? I don't
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  think so. I don't think so. Definitely going
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  through the woods at night, it feels like there's
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  something watching you. Oh, dude, that was so
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  creepy. But it also could be other paranormal
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  things. Or it could just be that it's woods at
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  night. Anyways. Bigfoot. You know what I think,
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  though? People always claim that they've seen
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  Bigfoot and they got evidence, but there's no
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  hardcore evidence for Bigfoot. My favorite thing,
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  Angela, is that you sent this thing to us earlier,
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  this guy claiming to have found a Bigfoot head.
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  It's really funny looking. Yeah, but then I did
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  some digging. Like, this post you found, it's
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  new, and this guy's like, this is a Bigfoot head,
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  authentic, from 1953. Eight years ago, another
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  guy made, like, this kind of, it seemed like
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  satire type of video on YouTube saying, I found
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  a Bigfoot head that looked very similar from
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  1953. It seems like all these people claim to
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  find these Bigfoot heads from 1953. It's like
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  this niche little, like... i don't know i is
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  it's too sporadic to be a trend but why only
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  the head though i i don't it's it's i don't know
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  i don't know the right word it's not like a trend
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  but every couple years it's just like someone
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  comes out with a bigfoot head it's weird and
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  then you see all the time the the footprints
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  and the hairs and stuff and then everything i
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  think we're talking about this i don't know why
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  we're talking about bigfoot at some point earlier
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  in the podcast but we're saying like all the
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  articles about it all the shows they all send
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  them out to labs it's never conclusive so all
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  the articles and everything they say it's being
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  sent to the lab for more dna testing you've been
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  saying that for decades you've never come to
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  any conclusion occasionally they'll be like this
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  matches another bigfoot hair what are you talking
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  about that's not bigfoot hair yeah yeah it's
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  almost like yeah It's almost like that jar of
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  dog man hair that you have on your shelf. I do.
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  It's definitely a dog man. Not from a dog in
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  someone's household at all. That's a jar that's
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  like a cool jar with old newspapers and stuff
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  about the dog man. And there's hair in it. And
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  it's more of like a prop. I'm not posting online
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  saying I got dog man hair. That's a cute little
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  knick -knack. Yeah, I know, you're joking, but
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  this is what people, this is that type of just
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  like, I don't know, I see like, you know, like
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  the old roadside attractions where it's like,
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  you know, the taxidermy stuff, you know, like
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  a cow with two heads type of thing. I feel like
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  that's how I look at Bigfoot sometimes when I
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  see all this stuff. I don't know if that's offensive
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  or not. I don't know. Well, do you know what
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  I think is that they're... since so many people
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  see it but there's not really like hardcore proof
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  is bigfoot actually just a spirit of some sort
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  that's what i was going to mention because there's
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  a lot of different theories on bigfoot like and
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  why we wouldn't have like hard proof evidence
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  or like a physical body of a bigfoot is because
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  oh is he a spirit yeah and then i know there's
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  also those people who talk about bigfoot being
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  an interdimensional being too I love that theory,
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  and I'm all for it, honestly. Like, that one
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  honestly makes the most sense to me. Which one?
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  It being, like, an alien or another dimensional
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  being that's somehow coming through on our side.
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  Yeah, yeah. Now, okay, so here's the thing. Angela
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  broke her mind, like, a few episodes ago, talking
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  about how ghosts... should be naked and that
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  most ghosts are naked. And we started an only
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  November fans for that reason. And if we want
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  to go down that route of ghosts are naked, they
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  don't have razors or ways to shave in the afterlife.
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  So do you think all these naked, hairy ghosts
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  are what people are saying is Bigfoot? Now that's
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  going far. That's some deep thinking right here.
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  But why would they have like excessively large
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  feet? Leaving tracks. Do you know my theory when
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  I was a kid? Angela's like, Ben has no answer.
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  I'm just going to change the topic. Next. I'm
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  sorry. No, I don't. You saved my butt. Keep going.
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  So my theory as a kid, because I was very like.
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  rational you know as a youngster that my thought
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  was it was rational what changed this um so i
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  thought a guy got lost in the woods and just
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  got really hairy because he didn't have anything
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  to shave or cut his hair with and he just got
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  lost and scares people in the woods He's just
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  a really big guy who just got lost in the woods
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  and can't shave and cut his hair. Sure. I saw
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  this funny thing many years ago where someone
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  took one of those scatter maps where it's like,
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  oh, this is the map and it has the dots of the
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  reported sightings of Bigfoot in America and
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  compared it to a map of America where there's
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  heavy concentrations of furries and it was lined
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  up. don't think people are confusing like hyper
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  colored i was gonna say how are people getting
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  confused furries with bigfoot but it's still
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  funny to think about well maybe maybe the furry
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  community is just playing a big trick on us all
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  hey it's possible when they're creating their
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  own bigfoot costume it's totally possible i mean
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  that's how that Not that I'm calling them a furry,
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  but that's how that one famous picture of Bigfoot
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  walking by the river was someone who was dressed
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  in the Bigfoot suit. Which, I mean, at that point,
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  can you consider them a furry? I was fascinated
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  by that photo when I was in first grade. yeah
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  i don't know there's so much controversy behind
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  that picture too because the one person claims
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  like yeah i wore the suit i did like it was totally
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  staged this is the suit and everything and the
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  photographer was is adamant even still with this
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  person who came out saying that it was faked
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  and they were in the suit that the picture was
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  real and all this it's like if i feel like either
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  one this person is set in thinking saying that
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  that this picture is real or two this person
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  has dementia and doesn't remember that it was
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  faked i can never know okay i don't know hold
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  on i don't know hold on time out we started this
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  episode being like are we gonna offend people
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  kind of making light about bigfoot and stuff
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  and then i every time i say something i'm like
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  hope that's not offensive This guy, you're talking
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  about the Patterson footage, right? He's like
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  a hero. Yeah, the Patterson footage. Yeah, he's
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  a hero to Bigfoot fanatics. And Brianna just
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  called him a dementia -ridden furry. I did not
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  say that. So should I cut that out or not? We
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  have no idea. I don't know, do we? What was I
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  saying? Oh. Because on one hand, you have...
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  this photographer who thinks who's saying that
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  it's real and adamantly believes it's real so
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  could it be that they do think it's real and
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  or are trying to cover up the fact that it's
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  that it was faked by continually saying that
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  it was real or do they just not remember that
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  they faked it i don't know it's hard to say the
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  situation of how many looks does it take to get
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  to the center of it Tootsie Pop. Huh? Tootsie
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  Pop? The world will never know. The world may
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  never know. What's the name of that sucker? Tootsie
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  Pops. Oh, okay, I'm right. Yeah, you were right.
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  Amazing. Anyways, but like... What are we talking
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  about? I'm so confused. So, how many looks do
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  you think it takes to get to the center of a
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  Tootsie Pop? Should that be the next intro? That's
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  another thing I was also extremely fascinated
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  with as a kid, and I tried to do that myself,
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  but then I got impatient and just ate it. The
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  next intro for this audio podcast is we're going
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  to spend 10 minutes looking at Tootsie Pop. One,
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  two, three. God. Yeah. I don't know. With Bigfoot,
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  it's so... I don't know. It's so complicated
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  because you have so many people who have taken
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  pictures, like I've said, have taken pictures,
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  claimed to see it, claimed to have experiences.
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  And there's just there's no evidence besides
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  the footprints. Yeah. I also want to mention,
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  too, like all the Bigfoot shows where they've
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  never caught a Bigfoot. I feel like. 90 % of
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  the shows I have watched for Bigfoot, they like
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  get whistles or howls or knocks at night. Sometimes
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  they find tracks. Sometimes maybe there's some
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  interesting footage of some eyes in the woods.
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  But nothing's ever like hard evidence that can't
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  be disproven in some way. What are eyes? Eyes
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  are just eyes. How can you tell besides like...
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  the color or like the eyeshine or whatever like
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  i don't know brie can you speak on that as the
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  outdoors representative like can you really tell
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  from a picture of eyes reflecting an infrared
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  that like if an animal is a known animal or a
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  bigfoot it's hard to say Like, sometimes he can,
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  sometimes he can't, because, like, size matters.
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  Size does matter. Say it again. Size matters.
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  Louder for the people in the back. Size matters.
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  Not in bed. You disturbed Brianna. Knock it off,
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  Ben. Okay, keep going. I just wanted to reiterate
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  what she was saying. No, I think I'm finished.
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  Okay, but remember, though. We're talking about
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  big feet, okay? Big, big. big big big it has
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  to be big but remember though it has to be big
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  but can we can we knock it off but remember when
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  i saw douglas the kangaroo yes and the eyes were
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  red okay let's do a flashback to angela's um
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  what oh she saw a um not deer a not deer i was
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  driving home and all of a sudden here comes this
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  deer coming out right in front of me stops right
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  in front of my car so obviously then i have to
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  stop and he just stands there staring at me this
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  is this is the weird part though that really
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  gave me the crease because i'm like how how the
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  heck is this possible the deer deer's eyes were
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  red this deer had red glowing eyes okay so that
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  was douglas and your it was the eyes were red
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  so eye shine matters sometimes yeah but also
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  at the same time it is hard to say like especially
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  when you film through infrared especially when
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  you film through infrared because you it you
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  don't see color in infrared one um and two like
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  the eyes are only going to capture them out of
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  light. I was going to say, it's only going to
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  show if there's light captured in them. That's
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  true for a lot of things, even photography, right?
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  You're dealing with a camera and a lens that
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  interacts with the way the light hits it, right?
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  And all these photos of Bigfoot are blurry, they're
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  far away, poorly lit, as if these cameras themselves
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  don't have enough light. So could Bigfoot just
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  be allergic to light? Could he be a vampiric
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  type of ancient Skrigoi? No, but no. That's a
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  big word for Elmo. I don't even know what that
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  word is. What did you say? Skrigoi? I'm actually
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  going to fact check that I'm using that right.
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  I don't even know what that word is. I have no
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  words to say. I tried looking it up and how I
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  think it's spelled. And the first thing that
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  came up is Scraggy, which is a Pokemon. Definitely
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  not what you're talking about. No, but if you
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  want to talk about correlations, I'm curious.
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  So there's a bunch of furries where Bigfoots
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  are. I've also noticed there's a lot of Pokemon
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  Go stops where ghosts are. So that might be if
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  you want to do a furry and Pokemon episode. Could
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  we actually just overlap all these different
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  types of maps and see what correlates with what?
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  Because that would be so entertaining. Yeah,
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  it would be interesting, but also at the same
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  time, these sorts of maps, they're fun to look
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  at, but they really don't mean too much because...
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  like especially with like like the correlation
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  of the bigfoot versus the furry thing is like
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  of course you're going to have higher uh occurrences
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  or like sightings in places where people are
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  and where and like you're you're gonna get that
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  same correlation pretty much on every map because
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  it's based on where people are in another thing
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  too is that like it's going to be the same as
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  looking at an at &t map i don't know yeah like
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  i don't know any um i don't know any furries
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  but they seem they're like by an outsider's viewpoint
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  they seem like they're open to like another way
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  of living in lifestyle and are open to a lot
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  of different things so if what happens a lot
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  of furries are the ones who are saying they seen
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  bigfoot and it's like that would make sense because
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  a normal person who doesn't believe in this stuff
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  isn't gonna like go out and say i saw bigfoot
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  you know like these are dirt these are gonna
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  be the people who are open to the other unknown
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  unseen things in this world you know ever since
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  i was a kid and i saw peter pan i've loved the
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  notion that if you believe in something even
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  a mythical creature or never never land it is
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  real or flying or flying unfortunately that's
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  not how it works because i was also in a play
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  of peter pan once and i in fact could not fly
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  when i jumped off the stage even though i believed
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  that i could just do like astral projecting and
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  um you're while sleeping you can fly then yeah
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  sure uh wholesome notion though i did look it
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  up by the way this is why we fact check in real
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  time it's actually a strigoi with a t not a c
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  that's why i couldn't find it but it is the uh
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  uh in in romania it's like ancient folklore type
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  of creature that was the basis for what kind
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  of a lot of people view as like the fictional
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  vampires um but they're not like the charming
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  dracula type of uh creature that often is seen
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  in pop culture they were hideous beasts that
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  uh reanimated corpses and drained the blood to
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  gain vitality um they're shapeshifters they turn
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  invisible they attack neighbors. That's an odd
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  detail that they attack neighbors. Now that you
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  say the word correctly and have the right letters
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  in it, I recognize it, but Skrigoi just threw
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  me off and I'm like, excuse me? It's not quite
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  an... What's the word? Encyclopedia? Clearly
• 24:13
  I'm not an encyclopedia. Dictionary? No, no.
• 24:15
  I'm trying to say encyclopedia. I'm just dumb.
• 24:18
  It's not an encyclopedia up in here. It's, you
• 24:20
  know. More of a catalog of all recent searches
• 24:25
  going back 10 years. So, you know, digging in
• 24:29
  the depths. You got to finger through the files
• 24:33
  to find exactly what you're looking for. And
• 24:35
  that sometimes makes you have to look some things
• 24:37
  up again to, you know, refresh your memory. Correct.
• 24:42
  One thing I'll never forget, though, bringing
• 24:44
  back to Bigfoot. We're lucky we're in Michigan
• 24:47
  because we're home to... One of my favorite Bigfoot
• 24:51
  sightings of all time. This guy, I guess, in
• 24:55
  Midland, Michigan, saw some creature that he
• 25:01
  thought was Bigfoot. But in his words, it was
• 25:04
  less like Bigfoot and more like spiritual, which
• 25:09
  kind of goes to what Angela was saying, like
• 25:10
  that feeling that sometimes is associated with
• 25:14
  Bigfoot. So as an offering, he started leaving
• 25:17
  pizza boxes out. with pizza for bigfoot and bigfoot
• 25:21
  kept eating his pizza so uh it caught national
• 25:26
  news when some big bigfoot research association
• 25:30
  came in to collect dna samples of the hair caught
• 25:35
  in the pizza boxes that he was leaving as offerings
• 25:38
  to bigfoot was it just a bear inconclusive even
• 25:43
  a decade later as they tend to go interesting
• 25:45
  but apparently he would talk to bigfoot you know
• 25:51
  the typical things you know knocking on trees
• 25:53
  calls whatever but all of his conversations would
• 25:56
  only be about food apparently bigfoot not only
• 26:00
  likes pizza but he likes nutter butters as well
• 26:03
  um seems like a bigfoot thing and slim jims slim
• 26:07
  jims but then the local pizza joint because the
• 26:11
  owner of the pizza shop that he kept leaving
• 26:13
  offerings for bigfoot at um the guy lives on
• 26:19
  the same street and he's like i've never seen
• 26:22
  this bigfoot that he claims uh but i guess it's
• 26:27
  good for business so now to this day we'll have
• 26:29
  to try it sometime they sell bigfoot uh print
• 26:34
  shaped pizza yeah no way they have to make a
• 26:38
  special trip to midland that reminds me of um
• 26:41
  there's this tiktoker video person that pops
• 26:47
  up on my feed every once in a while. Even my
• 26:49
  parents just sent me one of his clips yesterday.
• 26:53
  And it's kind of like a similar situation. I
• 26:57
  don't know where he's from or where this is at,
• 27:01
  but he has this spot in the woods on his property
• 27:05
  that he calls the gifting stone. And he leaves
• 27:11
  gifts out for... Is it fairies? No, he thinks
• 27:16
  it is a Bigfoot or a family of Bigfoot. And he'll
• 27:21
  leave things for them and it will leave things
• 27:24
  for him in return, like animal bones and like
• 27:27
  other things. And there was a video that my parents
• 27:31
  sent me yesterday where he was out hunting in
• 27:33
  the woods on his property. And there's just these.
• 27:37
  howls that sound like that typical bigfoot howl
• 27:42
  that you hear in all the documentaries or movies
• 27:45
  or tv shows and it's but like this is just an
• 27:49
  average joe guy you know what i'm thinking about
• 27:53
  though have you guys seen that viral video of
• 27:56
  um like this person leaves food for this squirrel
• 28:01
  like nuts or whatever and then I can't think
• 28:04
  of it specifically, but then the squirrel returned
• 28:06
  a gift and it was a cookie for the human. So
• 28:11
  what I'm wondering, is it actually just a squirrel
• 28:15
  that may be leaving it and thanks for the food?
• 28:18
  I don't know, but I do know if you give a mouse
• 28:21
  a cookie. What? Squirrels are lousy? No, if you
• 28:27
  give a mouse a cookie. Oh, give a mouse a cookie.
• 28:31
  That's how you said squirrels are lousy. That's
• 28:33
  what you said. Squirrels are lousy. Angela didn't
• 28:39
  read that book. She read it if you give a Bigfoot
• 28:41
  pizza. But I feel like I even remember this guy
• 28:45
  at some point whatever it was, whether it is
• 28:54
  Bigfoot or some sort of different creature. started
• 28:58
  getting too close to his house and would keep
• 29:02
  him up at night throwing rocks at his house.
• 29:05
  And he actually had to go out there and shoot
• 29:08
  in the woods several times before it started
• 29:10
  leaving him alone again. Interesting. Whether
• 29:13
  all of that is real or not, I don't know. I still
• 29:16
  have those videos come across my page every once
• 29:18
  in a while. It's interesting. But also these
• 29:22
  things can be faked. Am I saying they are? I
• 29:27
  don't know. You can't know unless you actually
• 29:30
  know the person and go out there. I want to say
• 29:36
  too, it's a wholesome idea and I do believe that
• 29:40
  a lot of things, like Bigfoot is so prevalent
• 29:44
  as America's most popular cryptid. If you don't
• 29:47
  know what something is, you're just going to
• 29:50
  use terms you know. So, if you take this out
• 29:53
  of Bigfoot realm, because I do think, you know,
• 29:56
  the whole, what we see as, like, the pop culture
• 29:59
  Bigfoot is kind of goofy and ridiculous. But
• 30:02
  if you take that Bigfoot out of it and just say,
• 30:05
  like, some unknown animal or some paranormal
• 30:08
  supernatural thing was giving these gifts back,
• 30:10
  I don't know what it is, but I see Bigfoot everywhere.
• 30:13
  Maybe it's what they call Bigfoot. It doesn't
• 30:17
  sound so ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
• 30:21
  If he starts coming up with hairs and prints
• 30:24
  and all this stuff, then it gets ridiculous.
• 30:27
  Yeah. To me. I just find Bigfoot so interesting
• 30:33
  because, like I said, he's such, like, everyone
• 30:38
  knows or has heard of Bigfoot. And even there's,
• 30:41
  like, regional different, like, types of Bigfoot.
• 30:45
  Like, down south you have the variant of, like,
• 30:47
  the skunk ape. um there's the yeti or the abominable
• 30:52
  snowman um i could never say that word don't
• 30:59
  actually ask me how to say it because i just
• 31:02
  say it fast so it sounds like i know what i'm
• 31:05
  saying sounds like you know what you're saying
• 31:06
  yeah that sounded right even though i said it
• 31:11
  wrong i'm perfect the saying it fast thing work
• 31:14
  works actually yeah yeah exactly um rihanna Now,
• 31:19
  that was wrong. It doesn't work for Brianna.
• 31:24
  It doesn't because that's not how you say it.
• 31:28
  Yeah, even though I say it fast. It has to do
• 31:29
  with the vowels. The vowels correctly. Everything
• 31:34
  else doesn't matter. Okay. Yeah, I think the
• 31:39
  skunk ape is kind of interesting because it's
• 31:42
  like, it's called a skunk ape because it smells
• 31:45
  like a skunk. The idea that the skunk ape, or
• 31:48
  even some people say that Bigfoot smells when
• 31:53
  they see it or find a vicinity. It also drives
• 31:59
  in that fact that it could also just be a bear.
• 32:02
  Because bear do also have a very strong smell
• 32:06
  to them. Like, you know when you're in the presence
• 32:10
  of a bear. I don't know this from personal experience,
• 32:13
  but... I do know that bears have a kind of rank
• 32:19
  smell to them. Because they're pretty oily and
• 32:23
  greasy. Yeah. So it still leaves that fact that
• 32:32
  people could be seeing bear and have never seen
• 32:36
  bear in the wild before. I know I've never seen
• 32:38
  a bear in the wild. I think when people go Bigfoot
• 32:44
  hunting and, you know, you have a big trip planned
• 32:47
  to and you're like, I'm going to find a Bigfoot.
• 32:51
  Sometimes you can't bear to admit that you saw
• 32:55
  anything other than Bigfoot. Yeah. I mean, if
• 33:00
  you see a bear in the woods and see it stand
• 33:04
  up on its hind legs. And don't really. and you're
• 33:09
  you're already searching for bigfoot or thinking
• 33:12
  you were gonna see bigfoot you're already gonna
• 33:15
  be like oh my god what is that and adrenaline's
• 33:19
  gonna be going so fast you're gonna want to get
• 33:21
  out of there and not really gonna pay attention
• 33:23
  to was that a bear or was that bigfoot because
• 33:25
  either way you don't want to be in its vicinity
• 33:27
  yeah i'm not saying like they're intentionally
• 33:30
  you never know bigfoot could be friendly It could.
• 33:35
  I mean, but even then it could be hindsight bias.
• 33:38
  So you see something quickly. It could be mistaken
• 33:42
  identity. It could be unintended. My whole point
• 33:44
  is I'm not saying everyone's faking sightings
• 33:47
  or that they're doing, doing anything on purpose.
• 33:54
  If you catch my drift. Yeah. To continue the
• 33:57
  cub pull of a bear puns I've done. This is going
• 34:04
  quite grisly. Oh gosh, Ben. I got a question,
• 34:12
  though. An idea. If Bigfoot is a spirit or an
• 34:16
  alien or another dimensional being. Alien? Collaborate
• 34:21
  on this alien theory. I don't really have anything
• 34:24
  to elaborate on. I don't know. Go deep into it.
• 34:30
  Anyway. If that's the case, could we just summon
• 34:34
  Bigfoot? Let's forget about hitting on a tree
• 34:38
  and yelling out to Bigfoot and all that other
• 34:41
  lovely jazz like leaving out the pizzas and see
• 34:44
  if it gets disappeared. Let's just summon it
• 34:47
  like we summon a spirit. Oh my gosh. You see,
• 34:54
  why has every episode for the past like a month
• 34:58
  ended with Angela wanting to summon whatever
• 35:01
  we're talking about? Have you noticed this too,
• 35:03
  Free? Uh, yeah. What's that? Didn't you start
• 35:09
  a list of things to do and not to do, and we
• 35:11
  already determined not to whistle at or summon,
• 35:17
  which we basically said that whistling to lure
• 35:22
  a cryptid out is potentially the equivalent of
• 35:26
  summoning? I don't know. What is wrong with having
• 35:29
  curiosities and wanting to summon creatures to
• 35:33
  understand them? This is what's wrong. When you
• 35:35
  summon Bigfoot, and he managed... I want to hear
• 35:39
  her play this out. Sorry, Brie, but this is important
• 35:41
  to me. No, go for it. When you summon Bigfoot
• 35:44
  to our apartment, and he shows up in our apartment,
• 35:46
  what do you do? What's the next step? I don't
• 35:52
  know. It really depends. That's why we won't
• 35:54
  let you summon Bigfoot. Because you don't know
• 35:56
  what to do. You don't know. You gotta do one
• 36:00
  step at a time. No. You'll deal with it when
• 36:02
  it happens, you know? No. And if it's a spirit,
• 36:05
  it's not gonna, like, show up. It could show
• 36:08
  up physically. Who knows? I don't know. I don't
• 36:12
  know. We'll just leave the apartment and we'll
• 36:14
  call the cops. What are the cops gonna do? What
• 36:20
  are the cops gonna do if you summon Bigfoot and
• 36:23
  he comes out and shoot it and kill it? it's not
• 36:28
  if it's a spiritual being it's not gonna die
• 36:31
  from getting shot angela okay no no you don't
• 36:35
  know what happens the spear then you can you
• 36:38
  can summon it and it can form into a physical
• 36:41
  creature sure so let's play this out i i love
• 36:45
  doing this because she's actually coming up with
• 36:47
  answers on the spot um if you summon bigfoot
• 36:51
  and he actually shows up and He's not as friendly
• 36:56
  as you, for some reason, think he might be. And
• 36:59
  you call the cops. I don't really think he is,
• 37:00
  but he might be. I'm just saying, you never know.
• 37:02
  He might be. Okay, Brianna is going to be the
• 37:06
  dispatcher, okay? So, Brianna, when you feel
• 37:10
  comfortable. 911, what's your emergency? There
• 37:12
  you go. Angela, carry the conversation. What
• 37:15
  do you say? Okay, there is a big animal that
• 37:19
  got into our apartment, and we're really scared,
• 37:21
  and we need help to get it out. animal is in
• 37:29
  your apartment be like we're not quite sure we
• 37:32
  ran out before we could take a good look at it
• 37:34
  but it's big and it's scary we need help um how
• 37:39
  did this animal get into your apartment we don't
• 37:43
  know okay what is your address you don't have
• 37:48
  to say that Oh, so you're on the second floor?
• 37:53
  How did a large animal get into a second floor?
• 37:56
  It came up the stairs. Did you not have your
• 38:01
  door closed? No. Where is the animal currently
• 38:09
  in the house? In our apartment, but we're out
• 38:11
  right now. Your apartment, yeah. Oh my gosh.
• 38:16
  I feel like there's some other questions. Does
• 38:18
  the animal seem vicious? yes oh my god hey hey
• 38:30
  i'm just saying i'm just saying if if it be some
• 38:37
  of it and a physical creature of a bigfoot actually
• 38:40
  shows up and it's terrifying and it's big we're
• 38:45
  out of here and what are we gonna do We're going
• 38:48
  to be really freaking terrified. We're going
• 38:49
  to be screaming. The neighbors are probably going
• 38:51
  to hear us and they're probably going to call
• 38:53
  the cops being like, what the fuck is happening?
• 38:54
  And then, you know. Also, if it is a spiritual
• 38:59
  being and you summon it to your apartment and
• 39:02
  it does turn aggressive, would jocks fight for
• 39:05
  you? That was a good question. We don't really
• 39:09
  know the full powers of jocks. Would Jacques
• 39:13
  take on Bigfoot? I'm imagining Jacques opening
• 39:16
  his doors and just sucking Bigfoot into him and
• 39:20
  then disappears into the abyss. Or releasing
• 39:22
  the 27 to fight Bigfoot. This sounds like one
• 39:26
  of those Godzilla vs. Kong movies. Except it's
• 39:31
  Jacques vs. Bigfoot. Jacques vs. Bigfoot. The
• 39:36
  army of the 27 comes, you know, because they
• 39:39
  always have the military shooting at the giant
• 39:41
  creatures. Or would, like Angela said, Jacques
• 39:45
  absorb Bigfoot and then make it 28. That's what
• 39:48
  I'm imagining. 28. Ben, do you want to ask Jacques
• 39:53
  these questions tonight? No. Oh, come on. I'd
• 40:00
  be interested next time you guys do talk to him.
• 40:02
  what he has to say about that. Yeah. I'll ask
• 40:07
  him if Bigfoot is real and if he'd fight him.
• 40:11
  I'm just looking at him. He has the attitude
• 40:14
  right now like you guys are freaking whack but
• 40:17
  he's enjoying the conversation. His smile is
• 40:23
  extra perky right now. Oh boy. I don't like picturing
• 40:28
  that in my brain. We're gonna move on. Oh, Jax?
• 40:33
  Having an extra perky smile? I don't like that.
• 40:37
  You would like it less if he had a sinister smile.
• 40:40
  It's like, mwahaha, they wanted someone bigfoot.
• 40:44
  Dude, I don't even, I... Dude, I genuinely need
• 40:49
  to stop talking about him because I'm getting
• 40:50
  so freaked out now. in the room and he's staring
• 40:59
  right at me. The head is tilted just a little
• 41:01
  bit just to be pointing right at me. I mean,
• 41:05
  you guys know that when I stayed at the apartment,
• 41:08
  I said, he can be in the room with me, but he
• 41:10
  has to face in the opposite direction. And then
• 41:13
  I stacked the cushions from the couch so I could
• 41:17
  not see him. You notice a trend? Every episode
• 41:22
  we start talking about like an animal, like the
• 41:23
  owls episode, I got freaked out by the end. Every
• 41:26
  time we talk about it. And then we're talking
• 41:27
  about Bigfoot and I'm genuinely getting creeped
• 41:29
  out now with him. The animal ones do be scary.
• 41:32
  Oh, they are. The scary thing isn't the animal
• 41:35
  this time. No. I mean, even last time. It's the
• 41:38
  thing that's in your apartment. Last time it
• 41:40
  was the dweller stuff. Yeah. I got actual goosebumps
• 41:46
  right now. I'm like, oh, I don't like this. No
• 41:51
  one will truly understand jocks unless you live
• 41:54
  with them. Well, any final thoughts on Bigfoot?
• 41:57
  Do you guys believe he's real? Do you not believe
• 41:59
  he's real? 50 -50. I don't really have a... I
• 42:07
  really can't answer that question. What about
• 42:10
  you, Ben? No, this conversation did not change
• 42:14
  my opinion on Bigfoot whatsoever. It didn't change
• 42:17
  my opinion either. I was always at a 50 -50.
• 42:20
  I don't... I'm not here nor there. Yay or nay.
• 42:26
  I think there's so much... like i've said the
• 42:31
  whole episode there's so many people who have
• 42:33
  had the experience who have seen him who have
• 42:36
  taken pictures it's hard to say that he's not
• 42:39
  real but also without that hard evidence you
• 42:44
  can't say that he is but that's the whole thing
• 42:46
  with cryptozoology is like these creatures cryptids
• 42:51
  cryptozoology cryptozoology I like that. It's
• 43:02
  a real term. It is a real term. I've never heard
• 43:06
  that before. It's the study of cryptid or mythical
• 43:12
  creatures. Is that a scientific term or is that
• 43:18
  a made up term by Bigfoot hunters and stuff?
• 43:21
  It's an actual term whether it was made up by
• 43:25
  people who study cryptids or Not? I don't know.
• 43:30
  Because it doesn't just apply to Bigfoot. It
• 43:31
  applies to all things. Yeah, yeah. I'm just surprised
• 43:35
  I've never heard that before. I am too. Yeah,
• 43:40
  so it was coined in the 1950s by a zoologist
• 43:47
  called Bernard Hoyvremens. I said it fast, so
• 43:52
  you can't tell me I said it wrong. And it means
• 43:55
  study of hidden animals. basically all creatures
• 44:01
  not recognized by mainstream science. Like the
• 44:07
  giant squid could have been considered a cryptid
• 44:10
  at one point, but then it was actually found
• 44:13
  to be real. Oh, this is interesting. The term
• 44:16
  cryptid itself wasn't coined until 1983. Oh,
• 44:23
  so after the term cryptozoology was coined. Very
• 44:26
  interesting. just on a quick google search it
• 44:29
  seems like there is a zoologist who zoology you
• 44:33
  know you know what zoology is and he was like
• 44:36
  working on a book and he was like again i could
• 44:39
  be butchering this whole story because i just
• 44:42
  did two second google search but it seems like
• 44:44
  he was like there's all these animals that fall
• 44:46
  outside the realm of what normal zoologists recognize
• 44:50
  so cryptozoology does that work is that how cryptic
• 44:56
  That word came about? Yeah, I'm not going to
• 44:58
  go down that rabbit hole, but potentially, I
• 45:00
  mean, they're so similar, but... Yeah. So, yes,
• 45:06
  it was a term created by a real scientist, but
• 45:10
  it describes animals that fall outside of what
• 45:12
  science recognizes. Oh, yes. Very interesting.
• 45:17
  I like that. Well, if we want to end this episode
• 45:22
  on a koala... note. I know we have barely enough
• 45:30
  time left, but you can let me have one or two
• 45:38
  more puns to end this, and that will be the bare
• 45:42
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