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MOUSE JONES - Oatmeal and the Banana Peanut Butter Sandwich · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Wit and we have a very
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  Speaker 1: special guest in the building, personality of Personalities, Mouse Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Looking around you guess.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tell us a little bit more about you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm Mouse Jones, aka the man that puts the
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  Speaker 2: drunk and junct position a k a. One third of
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  Speaker 2: the Guy next Door podcast you.
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  Speaker 3: Can find on Apple or what have you listening.
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  Speaker 2: To podcasts, one half of the what if I Question
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  Speaker 2: legend the list with the nihilis Simone d Block a
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  Speaker 2: King and see all your catches every Monday. But what
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  Speaker 2: I love most to host the track karaoke Wing your
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  Speaker 2: City each and every weekend. I do a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you're you're a mover and a shaker. So guys,
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  Speaker 1: Mouse had to go through a lot to be here. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you you you're originally from New York. Okay, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he came from my hometown city, New York. Uh. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And I've been trying to get you on our shoul
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  Speaker 1: for what I made a mental note. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get you for the last six months, so I like
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  Speaker 1: shot my yeah, since we.
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  Speaker 4: Met YEP, and I tried.
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  Speaker 1: I shot my shot, and I was trying to be
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  Speaker 1: respectful to you. I was like, oh, come to New York.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was just like, man, it's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be for a while. And you you came to LA,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm super happy. And then of course we're discussing
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  Speaker 1: your broke dish and that's when my happiness faded. Can
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  Speaker 1: you tell everybody what it is you're gonna have me
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  Speaker 1: eating today? Us eating today?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know it was.
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  Speaker 2: I really, I know it's about me, but I want
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  Speaker 2: an interview you. I want to know what you have
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  Speaker 2: against this. But I broke dish when I was dead
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  Speaker 2: broke I'm talking about. I was damn bad, no money
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  Speaker 2: in my pocket, all my money was going, you know,
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  Speaker 2: fresh out of a divorced sleeping on my brother's couch
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  Speaker 2: two days, two times a day. I was eating peanut
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  Speaker 2: butter and banana sandwich and whole meal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I when I saw that d M,
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  Speaker 1: you saw my response, but say, I said, I absolutely
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  Speaker 1: absolutely hate your meal, and I absolutely hate your meal.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing about this meal that looks exciting between the oatmeal,
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  Speaker 1: the peanut butter without jelly.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing that's decent is the bananas.
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  Speaker 2: So with the peanut butter in the banana is like
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  Speaker 2: a like a marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So the ingredients for your dish are we got oatmeal.
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  Speaker 3: Right here, and you got some sugar right here because
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  Speaker 3: you need the sugar. Damn. It was crazy thing.
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  Speaker 2: Right now when I want to switch it up, spicy
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  Speaker 2: little bit, I put the sugar on the peanut butter
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  Speaker 2: and bananas.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm so glad I wasn't broke with you.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm glad I was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you know. I mean I've had
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  Speaker 1: everything from syrup sandwiches to some crazy stuff on this
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  Speaker 1: judging this.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely would never do a syrup sandwich again. Right,
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  Speaker 1: they don't like that, but I haven't had it yet, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And then so you have the bread.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be bread.
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  Speaker 2: You got the bananas, you know, and they got a
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  Speaker 2: little black on them, so you know they've been in
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  Speaker 2: the air a little bit, so you know, got some
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  Speaker 2: season into it, got some life to it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want no birchon.
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  Speaker 4: Banana, I'm actually.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have your peanut butter, the.
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  Speaker 2: Gyps the creamy. You knew, yeah, I knew what time
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you, are you a creamy or
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  Speaker 4: you're a chunky?
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  Speaker 3: Nah?
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  Speaker 2: I gotta be creamy?
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  Speaker 4: Am I the only chunky person.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: That's nuts. I don't don't pun intended, like I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand that, like I want. If I wanted something crunch,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't eat a smooth thing.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I Ever since Snickers came into my life,
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  Speaker 1: I think I switched over to the nutty team. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: start making this oatmeal.
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  Speaker 4: I see your waters boiling.
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  Speaker 1: Side note, guys, just so you know, we were discussing
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  Speaker 1: like does mouse eat does he make his oatmeal from scratch?
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  Speaker 1: We actually brought from scratch oatmeal. But I guess Mouse
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  Speaker 1: and I both agree instant is the.
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  Speaker 4: Only way to go. Instant is the only way to go.
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  Speaker 1: And so we're gonna be making, for the first time
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  Speaker 1: together ever, oatmeal from scratch. I think, yeah, the red
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  Speaker 1: I think the red world.
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  Speaker 4: And okay, you do what You're the chef.
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  Speaker 1: You're the chef. You're the chef. This is your broke dish.
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  Speaker 4: So what was going on?
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  Speaker 1: You said? You were divorced. But what was going on
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  Speaker 1: at the time when you're eating peanut butter and oatmeal
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  Speaker 1: and this was a package deal, right, this is what
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  Speaker 1: you ate together.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: So glad I wasn't broke all right.
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  Speaker 2: So what happened was, you know, I got I got
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  Speaker 2: mad at a young age, and so I got divorced
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  Speaker 2: at a young age. And when it happened, you know, it's, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's unfortunate when two incomplete people get married, right, when
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  Speaker 2: two incomplete people get married and try and like make this.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going.
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  Speaker 4: On this maybe you turn it down, it down, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, yeah, we'll go the other way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's like phone all right.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, so, like I'm saying, so when two you know,
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  Speaker 2: they don't know how to break up because you didn't
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  Speaker 2: even really know how to come together, right, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: the breakup was I wont to say ugly, but it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't you know, nice. So and at the time we
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  Speaker 2: broke up over you know, the thing I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: chase in life, which was my career. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: had spent a lot of time doing what other people
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  Speaker 2: wanted me to do, doing what seemed to make the
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  Speaker 2: best decision. You know, I went to the military, came home.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was in the streets every couple of months.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my family will try and get me out
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  Speaker 2: the streets. So you know, give me a job doing this,
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  Speaker 2: give me a job doing that.
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  Speaker 1: When you say in the streets, what were you doing
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  Speaker 1: in the streets? And so I'm sorry, that's good.
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  Speaker 3: I think I got it to me. Boy, it looked
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  Speaker 3: like the old man.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so when I finally found it, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: through all that time, I'm married and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: shout to her. She was a writer because everything every
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  Speaker 2: stage I went through, she was with me. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: when I want to be a stand up comedian, where
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  Speaker 2: I met her doing that.
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  Speaker 3: So you know I want to do stand up. She
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  Speaker 3: was supporting it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I want to write. You know, I want
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  Speaker 2: to take two three months and write, uh we call it.
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  Speaker 3: Web series. I wanted to write old websites took two
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  Speaker 3: three months, right. We also you know, we got two
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  Speaker 3: kids to take two three months.
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  Speaker 2: Right write a web sites and boarded it like when
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  Speaker 2: it was time to do the uh, when it was
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  Speaker 2: time to do the readings and all that she was
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  Speaker 2: right there, so you know, support it now once I
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  Speaker 2: figured out what I really wanted to do, which you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was just in for my brother.
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  Speaker 3: One day we was talking. He was like, Yo, you
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  Speaker 3: should be on the radio with like Charlemagne and them.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing about people in the hood, Like people
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  Speaker 2: in the hood are like some of the greatest talent
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  Speaker 2: scouts in the world. Like people who see you, they
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  Speaker 2: see you like people know that they see you like
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  Speaker 2: there is no fluff about it. So when he said that,
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  Speaker 2: he never said nothing like that before, Like when I
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  Speaker 2: was doing comedy, he'd be like, oh, you're funny, he'd support,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he didn't really understand the web serities things,
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  Speaker 2: but he support.
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  Speaker 3: That was the first thing he ever said, like you
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  Speaker 3: should do this. Ye see you doing this? And in
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  Speaker 3: my mind, I'm like, yeah, I should be unhard, what's
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  Speaker 3: all I mean? But yeah, how do I do that?
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  Speaker 3: This two thousand and you didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Have connections to him at all, zero, Right, So it's
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  Speaker 2: like twenty thirteen, I'm in the other Like it was like, cool,
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  Speaker 2: I'll figure that out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, at around that time, I discovered podcasting.
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  Speaker 2: I had discovered the read and This is early on
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  Speaker 2: in podcasting. I discovered the read, and from the read,
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  Speaker 2: I discovered you know, combat Jack Bring Idiots, and then
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  Speaker 2: I was like I could do this, this I can
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  Speaker 2: do Yeah, it doesn't seem to be such heavy lifting.
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  Speaker 2: So I did my you know, I came up with
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  Speaker 2: my first podcast in twenty fourteen. He mean one made
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  Speaker 2: his club and just was putting working at a right
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  Speaker 2: recording every week, getting.
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  Speaker 3: It out, pushing it, pushing it.
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  Speaker 2: My profile on Twitter went up, you know, getting into
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  Speaker 2: it with certain people who just sharing my opinion, you know,
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  Speaker 2: put me in a so it be, can't you know.
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  Speaker 2: And then if you're doing that, especially in New York,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta be outside, gotta be outside especially, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I discovered my love for hosting and was like, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta be outside. And none of this is paying the bills.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, you got two people to to with kids,
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  Speaker 2: two people with kids, and I wasn't smart enough to
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  Speaker 2: be like, hey, let's find a babysitter so you could
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  Speaker 2: come with me and see this.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, I you home that mouth.
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  Speaker 2: So it became this contentious thing about like her burst
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  Speaker 2: of my career, which I understand now than adult I
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  Speaker 2: understand then, I understand it.
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  Speaker 3: Now, and so that's what ultimately tour us apart.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So when we get divorced, I ain't got nothing, so
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  Speaker 2: I leave, you know, I leave the apartment while and
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  Speaker 2: the kids and I had my brother. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just wearing the couch because in my mind, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I already know what I gotta do. I
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  Speaker 2: gotta be as close as At this time, I was
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  Speaker 2: living on Long Island, and I got to be as
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  Speaker 2: close as city as possible, so where I could just
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  Speaker 2: get to heat father living in Jerse City, seem it's
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  Speaker 2: literally twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Outside of the city if that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, listen, I didn't even have to say that. He
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  Speaker 2: was like bringing stuff to him. That's the saddest view
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  Speaker 2: you could ever see.
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  Speaker 3: Like I got.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even at this time, I was traveling them,
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't have no luggage. So all my clothes
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  Speaker 2: in garbage bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he picks me up and I'm out there for
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  Speaker 2: like a year and a half on his couch, is
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  Speaker 2: grinding every morning, wake up, eat this and I would
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  Speaker 2: eat it twice a day so I wouldn't be hungry.
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  Speaker 2: So my homegirl Chloe shout out to Chloe. She was
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  Speaker 2: had this running joke for years.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, whenever you see mouse, you don't eat.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm not hungry, but I'm not hungry.
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  Speaker 3: I knew I ain't had no money they.
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  Speaker 2: Eat, so I made sure I ate food that filled
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  Speaker 2: me up throughout the day. So that's where you had
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  Speaker 2: the oatmeal. You know, oatmeal This come from my grandmother,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like, we got it. We got to plate that. Are
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  Speaker 1: you gonna put sugar in it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, before it gets all like soft or hard.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you need that all right.
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  Speaker 1: Serve it how you ate it so I can have
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  Speaker 1: the full mouse experience.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta get that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And it don't let so let my brother wife be
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  Speaker 2: like cooking. I see some brown sugar in there, Put
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  Speaker 2: some brown sugar in there.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, boy.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just curious because I'm going through something similar.
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  Speaker 1: So did your wife at the time, did she like
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  Speaker 1: take on the baby's full control, like full full time
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  Speaker 1: while you were pursuing your dreams.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she ain't had no truice to you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like that's one thing about that I've
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  Speaker 2: always commended. No matter where we stood, Blowys commended that
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  Speaker 2: she's a rider, you know what I mean. She digg
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  Speaker 2: he a feed in and get to it. And so
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  Speaker 2: we're both like that. I think that's what attracted both
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  Speaker 2: of us to one another. I started me just being
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  Speaker 2: absolutely gorgeous m hm. So when it came to that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I'm in Jersey. I'm in Jersey figuring
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  Speaker 2: it out. She's not, you know what I mean, she
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  Speaker 2: got these kids, so you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I'm out here.
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  Speaker 2: I knew in my head that, like I'm hustling for
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  Speaker 2: something though I'm not just out here bullshit, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I'm out here chasing something.
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  Speaker 2: I know what I'm like I talked about on my
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  Speaker 2: on Guy next Door a few weeks ago, Like I
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  Speaker 2: know what the end goal is, right, Like I've spoke
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  Speaker 2: to God.
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  Speaker 3: I trust in God. I know what I know what
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  Speaker 3: the end goal is. It's that journey in between.
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  Speaker 2: That's the rough part, right, And that's what wasn't I
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  Speaker 2: was at the beginning of it, and nobody seen it,
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  Speaker 2: no except.
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  Speaker 4: My brother, Like, you know, so she knew what was
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  Speaker 4: going on, right.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we've never had that conversation, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure she believed no one at that time was closer
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  Speaker 2: to me. So I'm pretty sure it's you know, being
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  Speaker 2: that close to me, you know exactly, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm said. But this talent that is talking and you know,
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  Speaker 2: speaking and communicating with people, O rating and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: telling people's stories and you know, doing this very face
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  Speaker 2: to face type of thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's new.
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  Speaker 2: It's rather new, right like before there was a barrier, right,
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  Speaker 2: this was the barrier, right Like we would be home
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  Speaker 2: and we would watch the people on the screen and
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  Speaker 2: there would be like a twelve million miles separation because
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this is how do you get there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Because at that point, but I smelled it. But at
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  Speaker 2: that point when my brother said, hey, you should be
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  Speaker 2: on the RAM, I'm like, wait talking about it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: until I released that podcast and I started seeing people
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: from Australia, seeing people from Mexico, seeing people in Africa,
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: seeing people in Dakota, Texas place I haven't been reaching
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  Speaker 2: out to me, Like yo, when you said this was
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: larryous and by listen, by no means, was that first
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  Speaker 2: podcast anything that somebody should go back and listen to
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  Speaker 2: it and feel like they get to know me from that.
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  Speaker 3: We was ignorant, it.
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  Speaker 2: Was it was the wild West back then, but it
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  Speaker 2: was connecting with people, you know what I'm saying. And
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  Speaker 2: that's when I started getting to taste like that, twelve
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  Speaker 2: million miles just got shorter, just got shorter.
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  Speaker 3: And then I'm reading a lot and I'm reading you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading Charlemagne's book, and I'm reading la Read's book,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm reading Andrew Martinez's book.
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  Speaker 3: I'm listening to Combat Jack and it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like all these stories of people that took the unorthodox route,
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  Speaker 2: people that believed in their talent and got to where
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  Speaker 2: they had to get to.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There wasn't no formal training,
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  Speaker 3: there was no school.
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  Speaker 2: So now that twelve million miles just went from like
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  Speaker 2: eight million hours at like four million, I'm like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 2: every and then I just always knew a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people talk about confidence, especially when they describe me. I
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  Speaker 2: don't have no confidence. I tell you now, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a confident person at all. I'm an honest person. I
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  Speaker 2: like that honest person. So if I'm the best, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna say I'm the best. I'm not gonna wait for
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  Speaker 2: you to say. I don't need you to.
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  Speaker 3: I know i'm the best.
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  Speaker 2: But if I'm not the best, I'm gona shut up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: fall back, I'm get out the way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So if you hear me saying the best of something,
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  Speaker 3: just no.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm a thousand percent short and anytime I
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  Speaker 2: get an opportunity to prove it, I'm improve it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what happened. I started getting opportunities to prove it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So what was your next big milestone?
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  Speaker 2: I would say the so I would say from my
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  Speaker 2: brother's couch, the first big milestone.
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  Speaker 1: And you were you were homeless. Yeah, you're homeless, and
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  Speaker 1: you're still pursuing your dreams and you're not making any
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  Speaker 1: money at this point, right, because I'm sure. Yeah, in
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: the beginning. Usually it's you know, the first couple of years,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: you're not make nothing.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not making no money.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: And there's no side gigs, no side hustles. Are you
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: still robbing or no? Uh?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: My brother.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: My brother used to liking it. He'd be like a
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: with a heart.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I went from robbing niggas like Robin niggas all like,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: you know, still got kids, still got do you know,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: do what I gotta do? So I would, I would
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: go and you know, if I see somebody lacking, all right,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: boom coming up off that. But I'm just I'm just
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: take what I need. I'm just take what I need
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: to feel me. So you know I wasn't before. I'm going.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Now I'm taking everything.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm going, I'm just taking what I need.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: I know, I got this bill coming up.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: So if you saw a thousand and you only taking five, Okay, yeah,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you're you're a robber conscious. I thought you were gonna
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: say I was robbing only rich.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean see I never Yeah, I wasn't.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I wasn't messing with civilians. You know what I mean,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: hey by rob was of a certain lifestyle.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, So at what point do you decide to give up?
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Robin chot to my brother chatter. My brother bought my
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: brother tax do one free Tax Do. At the time,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: tax was on fire. Tax was revolutionized in this podcast game.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: It was on fire and him and both of both
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: good brothers, they took me under their wing, and I
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: was wilent at a certain point. You know, I was
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: getting into it with people because I ain't know where
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Twitter stopped in real life beginning at a certain point
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, I didn't know that there was just
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that what you what certain people said
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: on Twitter was just what they said on Twitter.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Oh so it was like, yo, you said something to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: meet me in the streets, but.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: When I see you, I got that same energy. Yeah,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it wasn't I thought everybody who was
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: on you know, then you learn like, hey, not everybody, listen,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: you can't you can't do that. But I remember Vox said.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: To me, you know, vaknow was going on.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: There was a street Box said listen, you can't have
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: one one foot and one for that with us. You know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: everybody got you know, everybody got jacks. Everybody used to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: do what they do. Now we're doing this. You're gonna
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: be around us. You gotta do this. And it was
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: at that point I said, all right, because I'm risking
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: my life every time I go out here. Yeah, yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I'm risking my life and I'm playing with an opportunity.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: This is God giving what I do is God given?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Was it an easy decision or hard decision? I was like,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: you were like, let me get one more.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Legid about it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, God the robber, if you don't want
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: me to do this, no more telling me, because God,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: you want me to be broken. I'm like, you know,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to gas Like God, I'm like.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: You don't really want me to be broken? Now, water bro,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I ain't brought no new sneakers like a.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Year like or more.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, so how do you when I
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: stop doing it?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: When I stopped doing this, how good God is? When
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I stopped doing it, the doors opened up?
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: And give me an example of the doors like at the.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Time, like when I first started, the first big look
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I got was two out to Heather Hanes. She's at
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: where she now, you know, the companies changed names so much,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: but at the time she was at v H one
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and at I was. I was hot on Twitter. Everything
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I said was funny and engaging and all that, whether
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: it was about music, dating, whatever. And I remember there
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: was a there was a shoot coming up. They were
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: doing it a Valentine's Day shoot, but the side chick
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Day which is the fifteen and reached out.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know that till just now.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: That's hilarious.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: And so they had me on the.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Hilarious gone.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: So they had me.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: A virgeon and a little more than virgin than I
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: would say she was. She was solidified at this point.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: It was me Cardi b taxed on I think like
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a few other people was on the shoot, but like
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: we would have made three. It was the clips that
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: they were pushing. She put me on that. I ain't
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: get no money, but it helped. Yeah, I'm talking, I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: promise you. Right after that, my brother tell you. Right
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: after that, I could go to the corner store and
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: get a you know, get an egg and cheese sandwhich
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: on credit, on credit, not even on credit. Just because
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the girl that the girl that was on the front,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: she was a little younger, so she thought I was
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: famous because I was.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I did something would call it b oh my god.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: So my egg and cheese, it was like on the house,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: it was on the house.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: I was like, got it, go ahead, you know, Caudy,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: you bring Cardy by, like yeah, never met her, like
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: I think we passed each other like we passed each other,
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: you know, going the set.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: That was it. And then I was on.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: You know, back in the day, there was the show
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: called Socials Decoded on what's the called what was the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: site called Global griund, So it would be like just
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a breakdown of that week, and Twitter celebrities would be
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: on there reading tweets and all that, and I was
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: on it like so often that people thought I worked
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: at Global Ground. So then I start again opportunities which
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: paid based on that. Wow, people thinking I was because
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I was going to show that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: You were leveraging all day.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even leveraging.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Like it was accidental. God said, quick robbing right, robbing? Right?
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Problem, I will try. I need you to I played us.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And so so many what right it is?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Right, We'll see it looks so thick. I don't know.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: You're supposed to look like you serve me?
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: What do you want to do? You want to be younger?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You want to serve me? Then?
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: How my grandmama, you're gonna get off cameras to do that?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks?
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: This is the week of doing that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Reach over.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I thank you. Awesome.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I still got to put a sandwich on here, right
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you put it to the side right there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna eat that much oatmeal. I I don't
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: like oatmeal.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: To jaredy Katie, is he messing up the shot when
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: he does this? He totally is right, going right in
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: front of the cameras mouse for not acting like a mouse.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: She now looked. Now he go to crazy part.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Now this is when it's about to get crazy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You got to serve yourself that oatmeal too.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I'm about okay, I'm not about to get.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, but I was gonna go without.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, Now this is the thing. If
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: it was just peanut butter and jelly, I don't know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: some people more like jelly, more like peanut butter. But
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: we already know where we're going, right, we know we
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: want the bananas. I'm watching you right, make a seat hold,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: hold the bananas together.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: So what we do and.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Typically, you know, because we on TV, I'm you know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I'm moving a little at of order because I be
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: really thinking I'm a fake chef. So usually would have
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: prepped the bananas first, chop them up how I wanted,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you know, but oh.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: We only have like plastic. Knize good less we're gonna work.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Listen, So you put peanut butter on both sides, sizes.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: You got to hold it in place.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't know.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I've never I assure you guys, I have never had
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a peanut butter and banana sandwich.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I here just putting bananas on raw bread. You're
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: living a dangerous lifestyle. This is really good bread.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, mouse, you do know that Eating while
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Broke is doing a cookbook with a combination of all
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: our broke dishes, So your dish will be in the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in the cook I'm gonna put it right there with
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the syrup sandwiches.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: That's crazy because we.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Start with the brokers to the least broke fee.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Putting this next to syrup sandwiches disrespectful to you know
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the legacy of banana sandwiches. You know, a peanut butter,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: now the legacy.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I'm watching nothing but peanut butter.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna need like a tall glass,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: some water and gatorad.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So, this is why peanut butter and banana sandwich is
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: so special to me because my grandmother resting piece of
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Nannie Jones, she put me on.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: My grandmother put me on, and so you know you
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: come home from school.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: As soon as I come home from school, I have
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a peanut butter banana sandwich, wash pile ranges and lie
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: about doing my homework and.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Lie about it. Okay, all right, I'm watching and learning.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So he cut up the banana for all you guys listening,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and he's cutting it into little quarters, little slices of.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Foom right there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Rains yep. Coins, that's the best way, right, banana coins.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I get the good spacing because you don't want to
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: be all smushed and come out the sandwich when you
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: take your bite.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, So he puts six coins on his bread.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Bow right there, got a little extra, got.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: A little extra banana joint.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: But I kind of like to have one one full.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Look at this perfect right here.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: You didn't even line up the sandwich to We'll do that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Do that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I make sure they always line.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Playing with your food, all right.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: See this right here, This is what I'm doing, coming
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: right through it equal half because it's that peanut butter
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: gonna get in there.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Awesome show the cams.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Look at the inside of that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: See the banana slices.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I might please please don't do it
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: around but let's see. Let me stop hating on your banana. Okay,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: let me try. Let me try your banana. Go all right,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: take your shame now, I'm taking the bigger half. All right,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: there we go.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: All right, serve yourself.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: It's nice, Okay, I thought it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I like it when it's all soft. You eat it
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: before it gets cold.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: What?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: You ready?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I'm ready? You ready?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Here we go. You think it's food batter?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Received?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Amen, We'll come to Brokevin.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: We're doing old meal first, Old meal first. All right,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: this is mouse's first time making real oatmeal, non non instant.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Wait, I can see your facial mm hmm. That's good.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Head right here.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: It's actually pretty good. It's actually probably a.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Little better than the instant, to be honest, I just
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: like the instant that's flavored.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: You and I cannot be broke together.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I'm all about the strawberry flavored ones. I don't I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: don't like that apple, the cinnamon one.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm what why that? Mm hm?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I get into this all right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: The old meal is good. And I'm not an old
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: meal person, but I think it's because it's not instant
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of chunky, and I like it right
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: here we go, banana peanut butter.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You want to hate so bad? Look at you want
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to hate so bad. There's nothing wrong with and you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: want to hate so bad.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Let that peanut butter get stuck at the roof of
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: your mouth a little bit.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: M Most of you guys are wondering why I'm so silent.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: It's because.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Because there's so much peanut butter and bananas some moss together.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I don't even think I couldn't. I could separate my
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: lips without swallowing, like I couldn't even get a word
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: out because it's so sticky in my mouth.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's because you take down way
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: too much peanut butter or.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I put on two very light layers.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It's good, but you can't talk and eat this sandwich.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: We speak for a limit. You gotta just you know
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like training.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's too hard.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Look you doing it?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, I get this dish like a sea plus? What yeah,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: a c plus.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to rate these dishes now. The banana's good.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But the only shout out to Tim Shanta Wantu. He
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: had the Mama Ramen. It was like ty ramen, and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it was out.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Of this world.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I went home and made it at home. That's what
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: else did I I don't believe it's tied. It was
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: freaking good.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: It was egg corn do hot dogs, no.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Your dish, by far. If I had to compare like
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: syrup sandwich and banana peanut butter, sign me up for
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: banana peanut butter. I'm just saying it's a C plus
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: because honestly, it's a.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Lot of peanut butter.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: It's super hard to talk with, but it's good. I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: will never do this again.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: That's I'm broke.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Listen, I bet you did. I bet you did.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: When you're done, but he won't be hungry to tomorrow,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: you won't be hungry to That's not on them, all.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Right. I'm gonna text you later, like now hungry when
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I'm hungry. What time is it? Six o'clock?
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: You know they're gonna be home hungry. How I know
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: you're saying six o'clock tomorrow won't be hungry.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: You won't be hungry for at least twelve o'clock the mall.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I'm not gonna eat till noon and I'm
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: gonna see how hungry I am.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: And if I'm hungry you, I'm.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna order the meal whatever you hungry.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, deal, you know what, Ironically, as much as I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: say I hate it, the bannon and bananas up.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: The banana is a is a plot twist.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie exactly when my grandmother did the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: first I said, what do you?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I was no better?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Eight that sound is different and I and another reason
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I can still order it. I can still order ingredient.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It's so easy.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: You lived on this for how long?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Year and a half?
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Fifteen much because what I'm moved in. I moved in
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: the ouse crib, moving the ose crib january.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: No, how are you not drinking water after this is
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that's a word. I'm almost done with my water.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I have peanut butter all up in everything.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: You need it later more.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what I think killed the sandwich.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: You put way too much peanut butter on it. Okay,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and so let's let me swallow m I'm on water
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: because this is just way too much for me to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: talk with.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I was way too much. I'm sorry.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: More water.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: That was honestly, that was almost impossible to talk, like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like I need to like swish my mouth.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: It's got so much peanut butter.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was like it's not.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Kicked up in the size of your mouth most professional.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: At this point, I haven't I ain't gonna lie. I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: haven't had distance dingen eighteen to that eighteen.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I never had this missine to that in eighteen.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So let's talk your next milestones after you stop robbing people.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest milestone was.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: It's combined.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm getting these small wings in between making some
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: trump change. I get this opportunity shout out to uh
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Lenny and Trees. I get this opportunity to host this
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: uh this party, this monthly party called Mixing Bunch, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: then in the summer time we do Dope Barbecue. So
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I get to really refine my hosting skills because at
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: that time, I'm starting.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: At two and I'm going.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: All the way to eleven.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Oh wow.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And then if they did.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: The after, I'm doing the AFT. So now I'm not
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I'm going from two to two.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: And you're getting paid.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Join these get paid, wow, but get paid pay doing
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: what you love isn't nothing.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I'm getting paid and people are seeing and knowing what's
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: going on. So when I and I'm able to no, no,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I'm able to ruffle some feathers because now the microphones
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: in my head on a regular So now I'm a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a rough feather. Now maybe when I stand on the stadium,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm the best host in New York City.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Do you think that you're doing stand up prior helped
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: in your hosting?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Definitely?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Definitely, because I know how to find those pockets, where
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to you know, utilize the music and where to utilize
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the funny.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, and then I just have another question when it
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: comes to that stand up when you're doing the stand up, well,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: now that you're doing hosting, doesn't make you have a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: hunger for doing stand up?
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Because hosting and stand up kind of they're like cousins.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Their cousins their first Definitely first.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I think my the only.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Thing I don't envy about comedians they have to actually perform.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I don't have to perform. I'm walking out with me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't have to write nothing.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I was gonna say, I was going to
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: say I don't.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Have to worry about what room I'm in When you
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: booked me to do what you want me to do,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: you know why, and you know what's showing up, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I don't have to be like, oh, well, like this
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: joke and then that message up to next because I
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: got so much other stuff to go over.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was going to say the difference
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: would be the writing, Like they're they're constantly you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: they have to come up with new materials and then
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: what practice a thousand times before they get the right
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: timing on it. So out of all the things that
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: you do from the podcasting to the on stage, if
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you had to choose, betwe mean the two, choose between
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the two, that's tough.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: It's like having twins because they're like both such you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: huge fast as they're equal faster I want.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: What I do, well, I guess because they both represent
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: your personality.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: They're like just two different mics, right.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: But I think if I had, I mean, you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: gun might had had.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: To choose on stage, you would choose on stage over podcasting.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Because I could do that on stage, Oh you could,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Like I.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Could do it. I could.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I could run a whole live.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: The only thing with podcasting though it's like usually nationally
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: syndicated and all that's good. That's good on stage, just
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: like we would only see mouse.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: It's something about it's something about those people and energy
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: and so and you know, I we laugh with joke,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you know, we we we do all the you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the posture and I'm the best and this and that,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm when I say, I'm talking about
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you know, our peers and everyone. But man, what we
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: do is truly a service. And that's the way I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: look at it. What I do is truly a service to.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Our people, you know what I mean going into these
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: very black spaces.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Sometimes we're going in the cities who.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Haven't seen or haven't had an opportunity to see a black.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Show affordable to them for a very long time. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I get to come out there and make the next
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: four hours pure bliss. Make it worth it, you know
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I think about it. When I think
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: about a live event, I think about everything that went
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: into it. Right, So you think about you you pay,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you buy a ticket to come see me, whether it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the guy next door, whether it's trap karaoke, whatever I'm
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: doing that tink it might be fifty dollars. Then you
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: gotta go get the outfit easily you add like two
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: hundred fifty. Now now you got to, you know, get
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: a babysit. If you got kids, never hunted down, you
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: might take it. You might be taking somebody else, somebody
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: taking you out hundred and fifty. You might en this
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: fifty dollars ticket might end up running you close to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: six seven hundred dollars.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta make it worth it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love being able to do that.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I like your thought process in it too. Instead of
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: thinking about just the fifty dollars, you're thinking about their
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: whole what they're going to put into it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You got to think about I tell people that track
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: care real good time, Like it took you seven days
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: to get here.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: You had to survive seven days just to get to
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: this name. Make it worth it. So that means whoever
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: got on your.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Nerves work at any time. You could have quit on
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: this moment, anytime you could have allowed anything to be like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not gone, but you came out. I gotta make
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: it worth it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: You don't get that with podcasting, you know you don't. Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: And I love podcasting for a whole slow other reasons.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: But you don't get that. You don't get that immediate gratificate.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I get to see it right here.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: You. Uh do you look forward to or have you
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: done the podcasting in front of a live audience? Yeah?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a lot of live shows a Guys
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: next Door We've done going on three or four. I
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: think we skipped the pandemic.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Yeh.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but then when my other podcast we did
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: every year three years.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: And do you coordinate it or do you or someone
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: else on your So I have never taped in front
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of a live audience, and I would love to do that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I would love to. Uh, Dolly Dolly Dolly is the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: reason Big Gang, Big Gang, Dolly Dolly be like slow down, Colleen,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: come on Snow.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta jump out there and do it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel. But I also, you know, with
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: our show, it gets a little tricky because we have
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: talent and we don't surprise, surprise, we don't pay talent to.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Be on our show.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: So I always get no, but yeah, we don't pay talent,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: and then I always worry, like, you know, we're an
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: interview series, you know, and you have talent cooking this
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: broke thish and you know, talent may be like, you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: we're doing this in front of a live show. Yeah,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: so I think my show may be a little tricky.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I may have to take a couple of the homies
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: and be like you're doing this team you know. But yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I think it would be really cool to do a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: live show and then like guests would be like eating
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the the same dish. That would be kind of fun,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Like we're gonna we're gonna explore brokeness together.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody, let's be broke together.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I secretly would love to, but I think I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: have a long ways to go. I have, like, I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: love how you embrace social media, which most of the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: podcasters do.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I am absolute.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Hater of social Like when I say social is, like, no,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I get it terrible. If it was, well, no on Twitter,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: yeah you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Like making jokes or whatever.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: But if I didn't have if this wasn't my line
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: of work, I would have no Instagram at all.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel the same. But now I'm like
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: forced into this join the rest of the world, you know.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because a lot of my friends are influencers. Yeah,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and they're like, if you see the amount of work
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that goes into it. Their lives are like a full
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: time production production job, and they let like have an
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Like one of my friends is like, if you want
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: to hang out with me?
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: The answers no, If you want to work out, I'm
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: here for it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm shooting right, And they're just influenced.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: They're just influencers, but they're working their ass off twenty
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: four seven and just watching their lives and watching the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: pressure they're under. They make good money, but that's that's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: a lot. Like I'll never look at an influencer and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: think it's easy, right right, right, right, So you've done
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the taping in front of an audience, so kind of
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: back to you. If you're doing your tapings in front
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of an audience, then you still wouldn't choose podcasting. It
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't give you the same high, and you don't.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Get that same high, right, Like, we're right here and
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you know, thousands a million people want to hit this
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and watch this, but it's just me and you here,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and I love that. I love I love talking to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: people for a living. I love that, I love, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: having conversations.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: But there's something up about.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: You know, somebody introduce me strong and I walk out
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and people.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: At this point in my.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Career, they get excited raw.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Or you know, doing it for some years, you get
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: humbled and you come out there and they like and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: then I get to show you why the next time
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I show up, you're gonna be going crazy.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: So I love that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I get that instagramhication right then and there, and then
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I get to fix.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: It on the fly.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: You mess up in podcasting, you're not you can edit
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: or you might not even know just episode come out.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah you might not know that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I love that term, like real life chin check.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Let somebody put their knuckle on.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: No, well, yeah you can talk about that too, But
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I'm chin checked. It's like when you've like you you
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: had a nice dose of humble pie, like every but
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, what was the last time and what was
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that time? Like, what was the time where you were.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Like, ooh, it's so funny.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I said it earlier when we were talking about the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: last episode me and Mac and Ryan Differ got next Door.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: It's just about you know, us discussing and being vulnerable
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and discussing feeling like we get overlooked and I know
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: people was listening at first, like you host everything, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you're doing this, and you're hosting these big events, mac
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you're a successful actor and Grammy nominated singer.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: What you mean y'all getting looked over?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: We know the opportunities we want, and we know what
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: we're out here fighting for, and we know exactly when
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: somebody or there's an opportunity that is not afforded or
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: allotted to us. So I get chin checked daily. I
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: feel like I am the I feel like in this
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: media space, I am like the black sheet. Like I
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm more or less the people's shit. Like
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the people fuck with me, them.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Productions, production, these.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Companies is not fucking with me.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: So you know, I watched somebody who I watched personalities
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: with gimmicks, you know what I mean, get opportunities where
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't got no gimmick give me because
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I speak well to people, and I get people to
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: tell their story that you know, and talk about the
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: things they would never talk about. I'm somebody who you know,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I get the people going. Whatever I say, engage the people.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But like I said, I'm you know, like I said,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm the people shit.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: And these companies ain't really biting.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: It's so funny you say that because I just shot
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: with Orlando. Shout out to Orlando Brown, the actor.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: And of course, let me tell you something.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I took my toddler on a plane and flew to
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Texas in like less than twenty four hours and got
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the back got back some shout out to my toddler
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: for being the most gangster plane passenger of all time.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: She's been on way too many planes. But one of
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the things that I thought was interesting that Orlando had
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: said that. One of my questions to him was kind
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, do you feel like the industry
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: pushed you out? Now he's a child star. He's not
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: like us, you know, he's you know, his perspectives different. Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: But one of the things it's funny to hear you say,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you know what you just said. But his perspective is
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: it's a job, and if the job, if there's no
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: openings at the job, or the job is closed, then
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that's just it. You go in, you do your job,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and then you leave. Cause it wasn't like you're being
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: passed up. It's just like it's a job. You punched
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the clock. You know, if you work for McDonald's, so
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to hear you say it from
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: your perspective, which is how I did look at it
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: for a long time, like, you know, well, I don't
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm passed up because I'm a baby.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I'm just thankful I have opportunity.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, it's interesting that Harry his
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: side of how he views it, and then you say
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: passed up, but he's looking at it like, no, it's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: not passed up.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: It's justos. You know, it's two different lanes, you know
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And well, if you're saying passed up.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, because I've never been an actor. I've only
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: done this and I know that if you put me
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: against who you put on this job, who's gonna win
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: every time? Me? I don't even get in there to compete.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: So now I got to create every opportunity from scratch.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: And I love this space. And God has blessed me
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: that everything I put my hand to turns the gold.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: The man that gets tired.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: And sometimes you just want a producer, Yeah, sometimes you
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: want a producer and the DP and have them deal
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: with that. And I'm just talent and I should instead
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: of having to come all right, well, I like this idea,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do this show. And if I do
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: this show to get this looking at, I do something
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: that get tired, especially when I'm looking up and I'm
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: seeing people that everybody knows I'm better than. How am
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I not getting that opportunity? Oh this person just got
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Or this person got that
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: you know? Every time you gotta sell me personally, every
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: time I celebrate one of my peers wins, it's just
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: sort of like a chin check, because it's like I
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: celebrate all my peers wins, the peers ahead of me,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: peers belying behind me, pears.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Loud, or I celebrate everybody win. If you, my people,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I love you.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Want reposting, Yeah, that's what we need. But then there's
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: a chin check with that. And I don't know if
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of people want to be honest and tell
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: the truth about that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that that's a lot of honesty, though,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of vulnerability to be.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Honest, right like you, my people. If this picked by CBS,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I'm posting, oh god, it on CBS is crazy, tire up,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: go crazy. I don't know what CBS, I ain't ABC.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like going back home to you know, I
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: gotta pack this bag and hop on this plane and
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: go jump around on stage for the next four hours,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: But I feel like the entertainment industry is kind of
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: like a combination between luck, talent, right place, right time,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and relationships.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Like it's it's all the Yeah, it's a lot.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Of that last one.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Well, the relationships. Let me tell you something. I'll be honest.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I would shout out to Dolly big.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: Dollar Dolly probably guess like four shoutouts.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: A year for me.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: But no, I would not even have eating while broke
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't for my relationship with Dolly. I mean,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it was coincidental how everything fell into place. But like you,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I'm the type that's like, I have this idea, you know,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I gotta piece it together and pull it together. And
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I don't always have the full plan. I just know
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: if I take a baby step every week in the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: right direction, things fall into place.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: I think God's just.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Like you know what, yeah, uh, it's yeah, let's throw
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: her bone. It's time. She struggled enough. But yeah, but
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: what's your long play? I know, my long play is
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: like I would love to do like I didn't even
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: know I liked interviewing or doing this type of work.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: It was kind of coincidental. I just loved my concept
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: of beating while broke. So my long term play would
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: be like I would love to be like.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: A Trevor Noah level.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of his, but I would love
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: to do that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Am I anywhere close to that?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Says who? That's the thing you got to accept, says
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: who is you?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Remember how you were just talking about relationships and.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: The Trevor the day before Trevano became TREVANOA the Trevano
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: we're looking at.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: He know that that was.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: No but he was working at it for a while.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Working.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: What I've learned is that don't matter how long you're
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: working at as long as you go, it don't matter.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: It don't a lot of people look at me and
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: be like, yo, came a quick. That year and a
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: half to some people is quick to me. That year
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: and a half of sitting on that couch eating this going.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: You know, it was so bad. It was so bad.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: This is when like you know, Uber was king, and
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: you know there wasn't I don't even think Lyft was
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: out yet.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: It was just Uber.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: And I remember I had to time the light rail,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: which is the train that takes you from you know,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: the path train which takes you which is the train
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: that takes from New York to Jersey.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Then you'd have to get a light rail. I didn't
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: have no money for Uber.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: So that's how I got really indoctrinated in the podcast
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: and then learning things, and you know, just learning certain
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: things about podcasting, specifically because I knew I had an
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: hour in one minute walk from the Journal from Journal.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Square to my brother's house.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Because I would get I would always get I would
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: always get back to Jersey too late to get the light.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Reil, so I would have to walk because I ain't
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: have no money for no.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Where you would walk in I would walk. And then
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: what were you doing on those walks? Listening to podcasts,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: listening to podcasts wow.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Listening to the podcasts, listening to the audio books, listen
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: to music.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: So did you put together the Guys next Door?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Or was it so the guy next door is actually
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: super interesting? So the Guys next Door came because whenever me,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Mac and Ryan would be outside, we'd have these conversations
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: that would like bring.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Everybody in, like me and Mac and Ryan or whoever.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: We we'd be having our conversation and then like one
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: person come over, like two people.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: You come next, thing, you know, everybody?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: No one.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Why like that?
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Oh I didn't think of that.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: It like that, So I remember, I don't know it
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: was Ryan I credited to Ryan Max might get mad.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: By credit to Ryan, Ryan was like, yo, we should
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: do a podcast. And I remember sitting there at the table.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I just kind of brush it off because like, I'm
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: already doing the podcast, bro, and at the time we
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: had just uh, you know, one of I should have
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: mentioned this as a milestone if we go back to
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: when I discovered podcasts. In those first three podcasts, we're
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: all on loud Speaker Network, Rest in Peace, Combat Jack
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: shout out to Chris Moreau.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I noticed you always defend him, So that makes sense.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Ogie Reggie as a fact, don't don't play
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: with him. If we wouldn't be saying doing this if
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it wasn't for Ogie Reddy. No, I'm saying anybody get
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: mad if they wantn't kid, there'll be no black effect.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: There'll be no, any of these other black podcast network
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: to be none if it wasn't for Ojie Regie loud
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Speaker Network. So I say that because you know, listening
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: to all these back catalogs of the read and bringing
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: idiots and listen and listening to text and all of that,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I say, yo, I'm getting my podcast on. Get my
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: podcast on loud Speaker. He met with May his club
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: got on Love Speaking Network. So I was I was.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I was comfortable. I was like, I'm not I'm doing
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: in that. And then I ended up getting my first
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: ever industry job writing for TRL. So I was writing
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: for I was writing for TRL.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I was comfortable. I'm like, I'm making.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Money and you're the loud Speaker. Wasn't signing like an
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: exclusive because I know with us, well, at least for
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: my deal, I can't do I can't be a host
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: of another.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Show of like another cooking show.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: I thought it was just another show period.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I look at you can't hold of another cooking show,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think. But no, I was just comfortable. I'm saying,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I was just fine. When they sell us to another podcast,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, people do that, you.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Can do more for the podcast.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: That's what i'd be scared.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: But then you've seen the birth of podcasting, right. You've
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: seen Crystal and Friend, who both have different podcasts, come
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: together and do insecurity for HBO.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: And you've seen you know Schultz, you know shout out
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: the shows.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: She Shultz, he has no Flagrant and he has Brandon
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: idiots like you see this. It's just because podcasting is
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: such a market space that you can do like TV, like,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna tell me I can't do this and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: then go over here and do this like boom, I'm
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: gonna do TV.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do move, I'm gonna do all this.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sot so, Ryan and Matt came and Ryan said
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: at the table, I ain't say nothing about it. And
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: then they called me and was like, yo, really, you
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: know he us would come on board with this. I
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, my brothers, let's do it. And then,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: you know, at the time, we just had an idea
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: and I was like, give me. I can't work without
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: a name. That's just my thing. I can't work any
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: idea without a name. So I was like, just give
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: me a day or two, we'll figure out this name.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, goy next door, like you know,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I got the girl next door and we the guy
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: next door, you know what I mean, Not that there's
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: a pocket.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: I was just like, in my mind, I was just
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: playing on that.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, like the guy next door, you
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: And that was.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen, and we released it in twenty nineteen and
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I've been going ever since.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like the pandemic impacted.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: You at all?
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Shut everything down?
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: But as a podcaster, you were already in it.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, as a podcaster, wouldn't you say it impacted you
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: in a good way?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was able to get better at speaking
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: to nobody but speaking to everybody at the.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Same time, you know what I mean.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, yeah, you had to figure it out. We're
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: going to just sit there, you know.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: What I mean.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Over the pandemic, I was doing, you know, I had
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: came up with a news show. I was doing Quarantine
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: nightly every night, just to keep me busy. And it was,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: you know, put some money in my pocket and got
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: people used to hearing me in a different space than
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: just talking about lifestyle and the culture. You know what
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like hearing me talk about these news topics
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: because at the end of the day you asked me
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: what my end goal is.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: The end goal is good Morning America. Oh that's the
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: end goal.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's the good that's the end goal.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: That's the end goal.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: That's the end goal.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: That's what I come outside every morning for to take
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: one step further to good Morning America.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: That's the that's the end goal right there.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: So like for you, yeah, so I just you know,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: and it's not the place anybody, you know what I mean.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I want to be on there with Michael.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Straight hand and show people that there's the Michael straight
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Hand and then there's Mount Joan and we coexist and
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to I don't got to
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: be him and he ain't got to be me, you
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, we got to get It gets
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: so weird how monolithic TV can make black people.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: You know, you either got to be yeah suited or like.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Then you or you got to be here yo, there's
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: no in between, right and then you're trying to make
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: everyone be that thing. So you got you know, black
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: guys talk about isn't that lit?
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Like what that's not truly?
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: My boy?
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Like you? So be you so I could be me?
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, good Morning America. That's a goal.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I like that goal, and I like how.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: You and speak one of these sandwiches on Good Morning
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: America every morning.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Just keep me I mean grounded.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: No, you won't know.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: You won't know. You won't You said you haven't had that.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I really do that. This is the first time I
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: had a peanut butter and banana sandwich is two thy
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and eighteen.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: The question is when you leave this studio, are you
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: going to take one to go?
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, that long ass flight I.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Was on, we'll see.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, longest longest flight was on no food nine.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: They have food on there.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: None I could eat from pescatarian, so I couldn't stuff
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: they have.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so you you went from eating while
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: broke So now preferences. I noticed everyone that like, once
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: they get more successful, they are either vegan, vegetarian or prescotean.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: They're like, yo, whatever meat we was eating.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Before the whatever got just won't get rid of it.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't see. I don't see me switching up.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: The only thing that I will say I guess I'm
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: slowly changing is I got rid of red meat.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, red meat.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I don't do red meat at all.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Meat was going, Yeah, I have me eating pork since
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: two thousand and seven.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: See, I'm not doing that. You stick, I'm gonna stick
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: with the pork.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I'm all about the white meat. Okay, well.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: That sounded terrible. I like dark meat, but I'm just saying, like,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: no red meat. That came out totally terrible.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Stop mouse come on.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. So I have to know, So
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: how did Black Effect get involved since we're on the
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: same Yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Black Effect got involved in Charlemagne since the day he's
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: you know, showed up and been present in my life.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: When did he show up in your life?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I did tax Season.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I did an episode of tax Season and uh, it
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: was so crazy. I did the episode tax Season and
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Charlomagne had which she shows you how old like.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Even though he was on Twitter, niggas be old.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: So he could have easy just typed in mouse Jones
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: and he would have found it. But he tight. He
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: had said something like your shout to the young brother
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: mouse Jones on on you know who was just on
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: the Taxi and podcast. I don't know his at name,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: but you know, shout out to him.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: He got it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: But he has a go ahead on the shoulder. I
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: promise you, and my brother tell you. I was literally
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: sitting on his couch eating a peanut butter and banana
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: sandwich and oatmeal, and my phone just started going crazy.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: I'll be ignoring my ship because you know, I like,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not somebody that's ran by my phone. I run
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: my phone. So I looked seeing and I was like,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm like, oh, it's price whatever.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I tweeted early because that was lappening.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: I tweet some ship and then you know, people react,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: so I'm like, what goes again?
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: I'm watching it. I said, I'm like, damn, I ain't
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: even taking up for crazy today.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: And you're eating this peanut butter eating all right, go on, let.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Me open it, eat it.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: And it's all my friends and all my supporters tagging
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Charlotte made like his name mouse Jones and put his
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: name his name Mouse Jones. So he followed me. And
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: then I want to say, for like a year and
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: a half, I was in his d MS. I was
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: in this I was in this Twitter dms like, yo,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: just give me an opportunity. We gotta give me an opportunity.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Was he responding or no?
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, when he opened this dor he got a
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: million followers.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Like, but but I'm just saying you.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Will respond, He'd be like, all I got you, all right,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I got you. I'm also not a very good follow
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: up person, so that was like the most tenacious I've
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: ever been.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, you give me, give me. I'm telling you.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you ain't gonna pay me. I'll show up
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: every day at the radio station to show me what
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I do, tell me.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: What I do that and so how so that was
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: what year that.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: When that happened? Two thousand and what's happened? This had
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: to happen in two thousan sixteen.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: You don't you don't think it's interesting that your brother
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: had said I could see you doing something like and
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: then you were at his house eating this peanut butter Sandwichman, charlotee,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: what was his thought when that happened?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: He's so like he's one of the most homopiple I
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: ever met, so like you'll never know, and he's on
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: super cool, so you'll never know, Like he doesn't get
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: excited except for like us, like the people he loved,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: so you know, he probably he played it cool. He
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: was like I ain't you know what I mean? But
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: also I played it. I played it super cool too,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Like in my in my mind, I was like, in
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: my mind, you know, if you would have asked me
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: three days after that, you would have asked me one
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: of my minds, I was like Charlemagne following me on
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Twitter saying saying, I get it, you know what I mean.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: But just looking at that back then, it was like
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: a right. That was a small piece of the puzzle
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: because me and Charlomae don't even work together until fast
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: forward that's two thaty sixteen. In my mind, it it
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: seems like fever because I had to live through it.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: But when you look at the time, I wasn't that long.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: But that happens twenty sixteen. I'm doing BT this, after
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: my Tier this, after I write for Tarrell, I go
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: to I go at the time I got to show
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: on BT, I got show on Complex.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: I got two shows on BT, and I got shown Complex.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I go do the b the BT Awards Special, which
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: is like I'm like, well me, like, I watched this,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: now I'm doing it. I've been watching it the b
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: et No I was just a talking head, and I
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: was like, I've been watching this since it came out,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: but like, okay, cool, I seen it, but I didn't
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: think nothing of it. I seen on the call sheet
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: that me and Charlemagne was turning over rooms, so like
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: my green room was mine until I was done shooting
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: in his with his. I ain't think none of it.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Going there do I do? Everybody love it? I come
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: out Charlemagne in the room, like, oh my is my brother?
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: You know how you do? What's up?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: What up?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I've actually never met him in person? Never never, Well,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to the black so you see him.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be super personable. So he dashed me up.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: You know, you got waxing there, hulking figure. I'm like,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: you know, shout out to the whole team back then,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: you know, Page and all them, And I'm like, uh cool,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: you know we dap each other up. He's like that's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: how cool he is? Like this is how this is how.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Real of a nigga? Charla mean? Is dash me up? Now?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not about to ask you nothing.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I've been in your DMS.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: I already feel away. I ain't saying nothing.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: He said, yo, what you do?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Like dash me?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, hey, what you're doing them all. I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: ain't doing ship, Like, what's up? He was like, you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: don't do breaking idiots. In my mind, I'm like, this
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: is what I need.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: And you have poker face or.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: You smile poker face, poker face, I'm a I'm a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: big no.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, I kept like, let me check my schedule.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I should be able to do it. You're like, oh, yeah,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: come to studio. I'm broke. No, I lied, I'm not
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: broke at this time. I'm I'm not where. I'm not
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: where I'm at now, but I'm not broke. But I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: said to myself, I said, I'm not missing this but nothing.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: I literally go to like the foot locker around the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: corner and I buy some like Nike text shorts, and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I hit up one of my HOMEBOYDT of clothing Bran.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bring me a shirt, like I'm not going
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: home because I don't. I'm a notoriously late person. So
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no way I'm missing this.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Oh you know what, I'm glad we finally figured that out.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I had not to do it today today, three hours late,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: just so you had nothing to do with today's nothing
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: to do today, nothing, nothing to do. I do not
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: fly playing.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry for the bus.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: But when you said notorious late, let's say on topic,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to destroy.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't want to be lacist and
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: ruined this opportunity. So I'm like, cool, So I leave.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I book an airbnb right around the corner. You know,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: at the time they was at uh there was a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Tribeca That's where I was, So I book, I book
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: an airbnb right around the corner. So I'm early, I'm
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: early to the studio and I'm walking through power and
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: Just soaking, and I'm like I should be.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: And then you know, I did the episode and people
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: find they felt about the episode.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Some people loved it, people hated me, which is I.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Want you right down the middle of the Yeah, when
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: some people love me some people hate me.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: You got to value both teams. That's what I'm learning
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: in life.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: So did that and it was kind of you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: that was a huge stamp for me. And then I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: went on to do Brittany's Britany. It's a ship ton
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: of times since then, you know, shows have been you know, Charlomagne,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I've just been around around and I'm sure I remember, Yeah,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Charlaman hit me. Was it like coming right out the pandemic,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I want to say, coming like right out the pandemic
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: hit me and was like, yo, got the show wants
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: you to do for black apect.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Dug Like where do I soun?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: No, Like he's like, you know what I mean, I know,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: pe feel you know, you can feel how you feel
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: about you know, loyalty or whatever came may be. And
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: then they Charloamagne, I call him uncle. I look at
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: him like an uncle, like it's very rare. It's gonna
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: be very rare, feel and far between times he said
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: he got an opportunity for me.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna question it. I'm gonna be like, well let.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Me if he say I'm doing it. He's one of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: those people like that, like in you know, in my
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: life and my career is it's only you know, paid dividends.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, the black Ef fact, it was me and Nila,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: we frings in real life.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: We you know, love it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: We love each other and argue each other all the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: time about rap. So it was a perfect storm.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if you know, well you probably
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: don't know this about me, but I he was a
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: rapper love I was a rapper.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I love rap music like I love it, but I'm
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: like a diehard. I'm like, I'm one of those girls
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: that like love the one person and that's the one person.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: But I have this battle within myself where jay Z's
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: my husband. When I say favorite rapper and Drake, no,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, let me finish, let me finish, let me
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: let me finish this. Drake or jay Z's my favorite rapper?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Right so I could you know he would be considered
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: like my my my husband, but Drake would have to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: be my favorite side dude.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: That's where I'm at when it comes to rap.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I had to I was like dying to have your
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: hair because I wanted hair, but I don't. I don't
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: know how else to put it. But basically, I listen
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: to Drake so much that I.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Feel like I cheat on jay Z. That's how it
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: feels like.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Sometimes if I listen to Drake too much, I feel
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like I have to play jay Z just to even
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: It don't matter what I listen to like and throughout
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the day, I'm listening to a bunch of I'm listening
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: to on Be and listening to motil.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: I'm the same jazz.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I'm listening in the old jazz. I'm listening in the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm listening to a lot of stuff. But
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: if I feel like I've been listening to something too long.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: I'm listening to some holes. Some hold I'm holding there.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I get it. I understand if.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: You saw in the studio, I have a custom. I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. I don't know if
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I said it on the cipher sounds. It's a custom,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: like five foot painting of jay Z.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: It's a rare photo.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: The guy that shot the photo owned the Respect magazine
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and she gave me the I saw the picture in
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: it and I called my mom, who was a portrait artist,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Mom, i'll pay you. And I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: think I was like twenty seven or something like twenty four,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and my mom gave me like a cheap rate for
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: her daughter, but it was like what I could afford.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Looking back, it was a great deal. And I paid
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: for this painting and I had it in New York
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: for like five years, and when I bought my house,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: my mom shipped it and I finally it's been on
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: my living room wall forever.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: My husband was like, we got to get rid of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: jay Z, and I'm like, jay Z is not going anywhere, and.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: This was a battle. He's like, we should have family pictures,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: like jay Z can't go anywhere. So I moved jay
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Z into our studio and.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: He looks great.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: That's like as soon as I walk DOWNSAD, I.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I'm good.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's my favorite rapper. But Drake by far, to me,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: is just great. But I for anytime I had problems,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I leaned into hip hop.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: And that was like the thing.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: And to this day, like when I'm heavy in my head,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the only thing that pulls me out is hip hop.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And but I'm not into anybody new, and I feel
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: like I just won't give them a chance because I'm
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: just not impressed with any of the new rappers.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: That's got to Yeah, yeah, but I'm strictly those two.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: But I guess the analogy you didn't like, But you
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. If I lean to Drake too much,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I have to miss. I was one of those do
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: you remember when they had your car had like six
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: CD players in it or six little you're not that old, okay, Well,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: you know playing CDs and you could put more than
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: one CD in the car. I was one of those
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: people that you could put on everyone. If you pass one, two, three, four, whatever,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: all of them were jay Z And everybody that got
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: in my car would be like, oh my god, it's
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: every CD J that's how much of a diehard jay
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Z fan.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna lie.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Like three months ago, a month ago, I shot my
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: shot for jay Z for eating while broke.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you, That's what I said. I said, Look, man,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: he's a billionaire. How great would it be?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Jay Z a billionaire self made on eating while broke,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: eating his broke dish.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, I'm gonna right and it's gonna happen.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: They turned me down. They said not right now, but
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I said.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Hey, you know it'll be next time, not right now.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: That means right now's coming.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep shooting my shot,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and you know, the day he does it, my favorite
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: painting will be you know, yeah right there.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a rare photo. Have you seen that with
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: the little kool aid?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: That's so tough. When I seen it, I was seen
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's tough because I was thinking
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: about like, I know, I wanted that picture like blowing
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: them and put in my house.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, you've seen the picture before. Yeah,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: it's a very rare picture.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah I got I recreated that picture on my Instagram
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: and all my friends were so annoyed.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Really, oh my goodness, I love that.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: I want to do that.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: That's what I create that picture on my girl. Oh
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: my friends was so annoyed.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: I want to with you.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: I want to recreate it. I'm going to be just
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: I want to do that.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Listen, I did first. It is fine, Well
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: he did first.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: I did a second, and I'll shout out.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: That's all I care about.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what advice would you give to anyone trying
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: to be in your shoes?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: They're too small, they already already, they already mine. You
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: have to do issues. You gotta walking issues. That's really
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: the best advice I give people, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Like and perspective, It's all about perspective. I'm only lit
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: because you're not where you want to be yet, you
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm very honest with myself
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: about where I'm at in my state. I'm in a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: great position. God has blessed me.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: But I'm nowhere.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Anyone else can't be if they lean into themselves the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: way I leaned into myself. That's the only thing that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: separates me from everyone else. That or that's what separates
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: me from the people who haven't done yet at least
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: leaned into me. I didn't go try and be anybody else.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't go trying.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Now, I was influenced by who I was influenced by.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: I can't change that. Yeah, but I didn't go try
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: and be them. I'm me and I lean into me.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: That's all I could do. So you got lean into you.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: That's the only advice, you know, find your.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Voice in your craft.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: What is the hardest thing that you had to lean into? Like,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: you know how I don't like social media? What is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: that one thing in your lineup where you're like, oh,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I hate leaning into.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Really like, not even sales, because I feel like you're
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur at the end of the day, you're an entrepreneur.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: That is the numbers of it, you know, the numbers
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: in the business of it that that does get annoy
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: and you know, but I think now that I'm thinking about,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: I think the question he answer is probably the rejection
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I wasn't all that familiar with rejection growing up,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Like boy's been a handsome guy, whatever, girl I want
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: to I had wanted something, I would have got it
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: down to, you know, robbing people if I wanted I
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: got it. Being in a space where you know, other
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: people kind of get the say. So it's new to me.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: So I think, how are you facing rejection?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: It was sord about before, you know, opportunities I don't get,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: or something may not work the way I wanted it
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: to work, you know, or having a show and it
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: not getting you know, maybe to push you thought it deserved,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: or the views you thought deserved.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: You know, there's yeah, you just you don't.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: This is the industry where you are going to get
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: familiar with rejection.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: So how are you coping with it?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Keep working? Being on mind?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: But oh that's it.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Pumping CDs or calling mom or calling someone alike.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: They can't they can't relate.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: That must be a guy thing, because I'm.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm gonna call somebody who can't relate.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: And then I pop my CDs.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm gonna do my self care.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm listening to my music like my candles,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: drink my ginger Rell.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: We I'm gonna get back to work.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back to work.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but yeah, I.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Think embracing the rejection or getting used to dealing with rejection,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: I probe the thing I had on this road that
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: I had to get most comfortable with.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I am naturally a super optimistic person, so I fail
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: a lot. The name of my company's famous failures. I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: believe in failing for it, so I count on my fs,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: so like, if you go to the front, you'll see
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: f because like I am, like, yo, we gotta start
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: falling in love with like rejections and failures because the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: more we get, the closer we get to Yes. But
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm like optimistic to a point where it's you'll
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: be like, yo, Cole, the odds are stacked to guess
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: you still want to proceed. I'm like, yeah, why not?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: And then I fall flat every time I fall so
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: much that my best attribute is just getting back up. Yeah,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: if you go in my bedroom, it's like there's two signs,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: just integrity and perseverance, And I'm like, yeah, pretty much.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: That's it. But it's a pleasure to have you. It's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: about damn time.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Even though you served me a dish that was it. Hey,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: look I'm a heater and I'm not even gonna hate
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: it was a great banana sandwich, was great oatmeal. You
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: did a fantastic job for someone that has never made it,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: and you came all the way from New York and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: you didn't bring me any egg rolls.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: I totally forgot. I totally forgot.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: I forgot.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: But it's a pleasure to have you.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna be at the Black Effect Festival.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: No, we got a show in New York that day
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: on the twenty second, know, and we was actually initially
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: when it was when the first remember the first date
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: we was track Carrig was a part of it.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: And then you know, they switched the dates for whatever reason.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: So we got that.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: We got New York date. And I don't miss New York.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: I don't miss home games for nothing. I don't miss
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: home games for nothing.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I I go to I always try to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: tape at least a week in Atlanta now and a
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: week in New York. So I'll be okay, and I'm
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: from there, so you know, and you know, my little
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: brother is Eagle Wit. He's a stand up comic in
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: New York.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Long here.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Anyways, he's really popping and you'll see him around. But uh,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: where can everybody catch you?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Where can you catch me outside of your mom playing?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: You can catch me on social media? Mouse shoones on everything. Uh,
• 1:13:54
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• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: should be up in there like yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about right after the shots shots babies.
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  Speaker 1: Don't test me. I think my daughter would live for
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  Speaker 2: We were just in l A last week, so probably
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: you were in LA last week?
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  Speaker 1: So mad you need to like every time Lane, just
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  Speaker 1: slide in the dam.
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  Speaker 2: And be like you, Well, I have your number now
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  Speaker 2: because before I did, I DMed you and you you
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  Speaker 2: answer two days later.
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  Speaker 3: And so I don't check my dms.
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  Speaker 1: I don't check them that often. All right, Well, shout out,
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  Speaker 1: thank you guys for all listening and checking in on
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  Speaker 8: Peace out hey
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