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Andor S2E4-6 Spoiler Review CCXXXVII · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I'm your host, Clay and with me like always,
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  Speaker 2: in of course, the same setting as last week. Katie. Katie,
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  Speaker 2: you were not at home because you were having a
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  Speaker 2: chaotic month full of birthdays and all sorts of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So and I think she just hold on.
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  Speaker 3: We're having technical difficulties, so I'm abe muting as much
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  Speaker 3: as possible because apparently the headphones you don't want to
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  Speaker 3: do anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was gonna say your quality of sound
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  Speaker 2: is not going to be as good as last week,
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  Speaker 2: but now it actually sounds good, so I think it works.
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  Speaker 2: But the well actually good. I want to test something
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  Speaker 2: real quick and again the magic of podcasting magic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it actually doesn't sound too bad. And I found out
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  Speaker 2: the reason prior to this, because I was hearing an
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  Speaker 2: echo was my own doing. So I fixed that on
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  Speaker 2: my part. There is no echo here unless I just
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  Speaker 2: start listening to this podcast as I'm editing, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just completely chaotic. But I think it sounds good, so
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  Speaker 2: we are good to move forward again. Guys. The next
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  Speaker 2: two weeks, well, actually it'll be this week. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: two weeks, because it's total of twelve, right, there's four weeks, yes,
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  Speaker 2: four weeks. Okay, so this week week plus two more weeks,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be nothing but and or no small
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  Speaker 2: news bits, no book reviews, which, by the way, we
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  Speaker 2: will have a book review soon. A Valiant vow actually
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  Speaker 2: is releasing this week, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Valiant Vowel releases on Tuesday, guys, and the plan
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  Speaker 3: for that is we will not have a review on
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  Speaker 3: the eighth for you guys, but we will have it
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  Speaker 3: the following week, so to be a short little review.
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  Speaker 3: That's all we're going to really be talking about. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Way Seeker also comes out on Tuesday, guys, but we
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  Speaker 3: already done a review for that, so you can go
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  Speaker 3: check that out. But yeah, like Valiant vow is the
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  Speaker 3: only thing we're doing. And actually technically we have to
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  Speaker 3: discuss when we're going to have Tales of the Underground.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because that is literally tomorrow tomorrow, and the hope
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  Speaker 4: is that that will be the episode that you got
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  Speaker 4: have on Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: Is our Tales of the Underground review. Underworld is Underworld,
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: This week is Tales of the Underworld. A little bit
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  Speaker 2: of Inside Baseball currently we are recording this. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: if you are live with us on a Saturday night,
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  Speaker 2: this will be dropping on podcast feeds on Sunday. We
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  Speaker 2: can't talk about it on Sunday because one, I will
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  Speaker 2: be watching it on Sunday and also driving about an
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  Speaker 2: hour and a half to two hours away to go
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  Speaker 2: get some supplies for Amberlin's first bed, as well as
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  Speaker 2: watching the show. Like, there's so many things that are
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  Speaker 2: gonna be happening on Sunday, so we won't be able
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  Speaker 2: to record Sunday. But I think we should be able
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  Speaker 2: to plan probably not live a recording sometime between Monday
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  Speaker 2: and Wednesday for you guys to have Tales of the
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  Speaker 2: Underworld to listen to on Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, busy May, busy May, guys.
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  Speaker 2: It is so episodes.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, and for the record, guys, for the record,
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot going on in my life right now.
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  Speaker 3: I did not get to give these episodes a really
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  Speaker 3: clean watch, Like Matt did not even get to watch
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  Speaker 3: episodes five and six this week. That's how chaotic things were.
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  Speaker 3: Uh So I'm gonna do my best, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: come and play to lead most of the plot just
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  Speaker 3: discussion and I'll be back next week in my.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So let's go ahead and jumped in to episode four.
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  Speaker 2: Episode four is ever been to Gorman? There was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of speculation on, uh, which episodes were these four
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  Speaker 2: or these three because of the director that returned correct.
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  Speaker 3: And mon Manthma's speech. We know where that takes place
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  Speaker 3: in the timeline that takes place in two By, So
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  Speaker 3: it could have been that the three episodes for two
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  Speaker 3: Bby take place on Gorman with the Gorman massacre and everything,
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  Speaker 3: and then kind of proceed from there. But we also
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  Speaker 3: know five episodes on Gorman, so it kind of makes
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  Speaker 3: sense that it's coming now, and then we get one
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  Speaker 3: more next arc and then Mathma's speech to the Senate
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  Speaker 3: and escape and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so in this episode we learn a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the moving pieces for this arc in general. You know,
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  Speaker 2: last week we talked about the fact that Dedra and
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  Speaker 2: Cyril have somewhat of a actual serious relationship that is
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  Speaker 2: going on. Guys, serious relationships are not without their secrets,
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  Speaker 2: as we see in these three episodes, and that's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a doozy and I do there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of different and I say we're starting with episode four,
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  Speaker 2: but we know that we're talking about character arcs for
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  Speaker 2: majority of these reviews because going episode by episode is
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  Speaker 2: going to be very difficult. It's going to be very
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  Speaker 2: long winded and everything else. But I want to start.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start with Sarah and Dedra the Empire,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, and then I want to go to
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  Speaker 2: casts and Bis because the jaw dropping, fucking moment at
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  Speaker 2: the last episode this week, my brain literally almost spewed
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  Speaker 2: out of my fucking ears with how much it exploded
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  Speaker 2: at the just the slight shift in frame for that
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  Speaker 2: reveal my job. I literally opened my mouth and was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: Because we had seen the like high five and explosion
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  Speaker 3: for calf inpect and yes, guys, I'm jumping ahead, but
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  Speaker 3: we had seen that in the trailer and so everyone
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  Speaker 3: was like, what is this for? And now we know
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  Speaker 3: what it was for.
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  Speaker 2: And I do want to call myself out for talking
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  Speaker 2: shit to Bix the entire time and then when that happened,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, So we will talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, but first Cyril. Cyril, of course, has been
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  Speaker 2: a very big player in and Or season one and
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  Speaker 2: even more so in season two. He is the quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote imperial spy uh so says the Gorman uh uh.
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  Speaker 2: And it's so funny. I put it in the front,
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  Speaker 2: the Gorman front. But it's so funny because I've purposely
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  Speaker 2: written I wrote this down in my notes and I said,
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  Speaker 2: this is what they want you to believe. But Cyril
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  Speaker 2: meets with the Gorman extremists, yep, is that's we all know.
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  Speaker 2: That's where it's gonna spit with the with the Empire.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, let's write it down.
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  Speaker 3: And I could not believe that Dja Deja put him
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  Speaker 3: into her plot. But also I can't believe it because
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  Speaker 3: that's who she is is She's got to use everyone
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  Speaker 3: to her advantage.
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  Speaker 2: And that was kind of surprising to me. So you
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  Speaker 2: don't know that Cyril doesn't know the true purpose of
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  Speaker 2: this entire thing until episode six. You watch all of four,
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  Speaker 2: all of five, and then finally in episode six, it
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  Speaker 2: is not until admiral. Right, Admiral.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's an admirable. I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: colonel patter guys. Okay, okay, because you Lauren is the
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  Speaker 3: head of the ISB and he's only a colonel. So
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  Speaker 3: he might even be like a lieutenant colonel because he
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  Speaker 3: reports to you, Lauren. So patter Gazz is like helping
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  Speaker 3: Dedra run the Gorman operation that critic proposed in the
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  Speaker 3: first arc. So Dedra's kind of running with that and
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  Speaker 3: his basically inserted cereal to where he can connect with
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  Speaker 3: the Gorman Front and manipulate them to get the result
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  Speaker 3: that they're looking for. Remember Dedra setting arc one, Well,
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  Speaker 3: you don't need propaganda, you need an extremist group that's
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  Speaker 3: going to do the wrong thing at the right time.
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  Speaker 3: And that's basically where this is leading to. This is
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  Speaker 3: the Gorman Front, the extremist quote unquote rebel group, and
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  Speaker 3: they're doing the wrong thing at the right time.
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  Speaker 2: Basically. Yeah, I did want to.
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  Speaker 3: Ask your opinion on this because this kind of goes
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  Speaker 3: across all of the What did you think about the
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  Speaker 3: Gorman's basically having like a French accent like the Twilight.
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  Speaker 2: So I was wanting to bring this up also because
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  Speaker 2: I I'm gonna just say it right here, right now,
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  Speaker 2: I am not a very intellectual individual when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to languages. Somebody could speak some other language and I
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  Speaker 2: would very inappropriately and uneducationally probably stereotyped the hell out
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  Speaker 2: of the sound of that language, and Butcher it. I
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  Speaker 2: am not that intelligible when it comes to languages I
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  Speaker 2: need to be. But when they were actually talking, my
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  Speaker 2: brain went is that French? And so I did look
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  Speaker 2: it up. It's not French per se, but it is
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  Speaker 2: based off of like French phonics, So like, yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: it's it's kind of an amalgam of like a made
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  Speaker 2: up language of for us being Gorman and then French.
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  Speaker 2: I think that this is perfectly fine because we are
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  Speaker 2: not dealing with Earth or French individuals, right, But you're.
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  Speaker 3: Also looking at like, Okay, there's technically already a French
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  Speaker 3: accent out there. Hera has represented that with the twilegs,
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  Speaker 3: So is it like, could you not have picked maybe
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  Speaker 3: a different accent to go.
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  Speaker 2: With I okay, So I get what you're saying. I
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  Speaker 2: get what you're saying. Yes, I would need to hear
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  Speaker 2: Twilight again to really see the difference in how that
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  Speaker 2: dialect shows up, and like if if it is different
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  Speaker 2: enough to be like hey, yeah, okay, like we as
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  Speaker 2: humans on planet Earth who have who know French people,
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  Speaker 2: like we know the difference. Yeah, But if you are
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  Speaker 2: looking in this scope of this far off place in
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  Speaker 2: a galaxy far far far away. Is it possible for
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  Speaker 2: the whole world of these people and the whole world
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  Speaker 2: of these people to have such a close dialect.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's because that's like the biggest thing, right
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  Speaker 3: is like, are if they're in the same sector, then
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  Speaker 3: maybe you could potentially explain it away. But I just
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  Speaker 3: feel like with the heritage that Gorman has and the
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  Speaker 3: heritage that Rylov has, I feel based on what they
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  Speaker 3: have given us so far for Gorman is that it
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  Speaker 3: is a deeply rich culture with the spiders and everything,
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  Speaker 3: and I just feel like we kind of merged it
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  Speaker 3: because we didn't want to les involved because this is
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  Speaker 3: another thing for the whole arc is again there's not
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  Speaker 3: enough aliens in this arc. So is it like it
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  Speaker 3: most likely boiled down to a budgeting problem. But it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: but you already have this, And I know each show
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  Speaker 3: doesn't like we're using other people's elements, but I feel
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  Speaker 3: like this should have been something that was easy to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I agree.
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  Speaker 5: All right, y'all, we're going to hit our first ad
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  Speaker 5: break and we will be right back in three two one.
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  Speaker 2: And I do. I do like use of the spider
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  Speaker 2: and the allegory of like, you know, a trap, weaving
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  Speaker 2: a web and falling into its trap. And I like
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  Speaker 2: that idea for what we are literally seeing happening with
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  Speaker 2: the Gormans. Cyril gets entangled into the the Gormans plan
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  Speaker 2: to take over. What we now see is, of course,
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  Speaker 2: the Empire kind of stepping on them. There the Empire
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  Speaker 2: has taken over, but hasn't yet. Of course they are
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  Speaker 2: spinning their their propaganda of like, oh, this is of
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  Speaker 2: course just to protect you, like we we are not
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  Speaker 2: here to intrude, We're not here to do da da da.
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  Speaker 2: But they're building an armory in the center of town
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  Speaker 2: or the city. We heard this story of about uh
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  Speaker 2: Tarkan fifteen years ago, basically slaughtering like which does which.
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  Speaker 3: Did answer my question about the tark And massacre, because
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  Speaker 3: I believe originally the Gorman masker was the target massacre,
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  Speaker 3: and so now they're kind of differentiating it as two things.
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  Speaker 3: So you have the target massacre on Gorman and now
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  Speaker 3: you're going to have an additional Gorman massacre. And I say, originally, y'all,
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about legends. Yeah, I just want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that's clear, because sometimes people are like, what do
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  Speaker 3: you mean Originally, Yeah, so I did like getting that
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  Speaker 3: question answered.
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  Speaker 2: I how do you feel because here's the here's the
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  Speaker 2: ultimate question. Because we do have this small scene. I
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very small but significant with the idea
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  Speaker 2: of of course Cyril being the man for the empire.
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  Speaker 2: He has always he has always been the man who
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  Speaker 2: is working for the government. Like that's that's just who
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  Speaker 2: he is, right, But you have this conversation with him
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  Speaker 2: and his mother.
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  Speaker 3: Four so confused and she and she.
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  Speaker 2: Of course is not okay with this whole transfer of
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  Speaker 2: him going to Gorman. He had a perfect life, he
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  Speaker 2: had a nice woman on his side, like giving all
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  Speaker 2: these compliments and again like there's this conversation of propaganda
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  Speaker 2: and how Gorman is not safe and like all of
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  Speaker 2: these other things. Right. But I think it's significant because
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  Speaker 2: there might be a sliver of an opportunity for Cyril
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  Speaker 2: to not be okay with what takes place.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I think we do kind of see that
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  Speaker 3: with the end of episode six, with the death of
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  Speaker 3: one of our key characters from season one. I think
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  Speaker 3: Cyril's kind of sharing that and he's reporting what's going
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  Speaker 3: on with this heist because he's given he's given the
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  Speaker 3: Gorman Front all of like the transport plans and like
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  Speaker 3: which transports are carrying weapons and which ones aren't. So
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  Speaker 3: now the Gorman Front has planned a heist and brought
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  Speaker 3: in one of our key characters, or two of our
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  Speaker 3: key characters. I guess I'll go ahead and say that.
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  Speaker 3: But he is watching the heist go down to kind
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  Speaker 3: of confirm what's going on, and he sees what happens
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  Speaker 3: and it like kind of shocks him to.
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  Speaker 2: His core yep. Yeah. Uh, and so I think along
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  Speaker 2: with the idea that he will eventually find out that
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  Speaker 2: Dedra was not one hundred truthful with him. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: so I do believe there is a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: leeway for him to maybe not I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: go as far as to say he's going to turn. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's turning, But he may walk away
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  Speaker 3: from his job in the Empire.
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  Speaker 2: But he may walk away, which is there is a
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  Speaker 2: set precedent in the Star Wars universe for this to
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  Speaker 2: happen with Imperial employees. Yep. Yeah, So I think that
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  Speaker 2: it is very much possible with this staying with the
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  Speaker 2: Dedra Serial Empire conversation. H I can never remember his
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  Speaker 2: goddamn name. Uh No, there is an actor his character.
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  Speaker 2: I always laugh because he looks like Taylor from geek Verse,
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  Speaker 2: the tall, lanky, redhead dude that talks to Luthan. Is
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  Speaker 2: it supervisor Lannie? Yes, yes, Lnnie and Jung supervisor Lannie.
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  Speaker 2: He's the one with a little thin mustache.
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  Speaker 3: To the blind book.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he's uh uh. I always recognize him because
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  Speaker 2: he's very tall, but he also has a huge receiving hairline.
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  Speaker 2: No offense, but his conversation with luth telling Luthen, of
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  Speaker 2: course he's he's been the informant form for quite some
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  Speaker 2: time now, ever since season one, And there's a moment
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  Speaker 2: in episode four where they meet again on that elevator
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  Speaker 2: and he's telling him about Gorman, and Luthen's like, what's
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  Speaker 2: this whole obsession with Gorman? What's going on? Like? Why? Why? Why? Why?
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  Speaker 2: And he tells them like, hey, all I know is
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  Speaker 2: that Dedra's now in charge. You know, they they made
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  Speaker 2: it as a front to like make it look like
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing, but we're not entirely sure that's the
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  Speaker 2: case anymore so I don't know what else to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, well, I need the endgame. I need
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  Speaker 2: the endgame on this. He's like, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 2: I really like the line where he says, like, because
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  Speaker 2: Luthen is like so like eager to get information, he
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: tells Luthen, you used to tell me to wait, like
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  Speaker 2: you used to like tell me to have patience and
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  Speaker 2: all this other stuff, and Luthen tells him's like, well
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  Speaker 2: those days are past us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lutherans getting a little impatient. And you can kind
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  Speaker 3: of see it with his arc with Clear, which runs
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  Speaker 3: into mon and parents. I have words the empire area
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  Speaker 3: of this story. I feel like it was really well done. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Dedra Padagra is not really in these episodes a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, oh gosh, what's what's the address the
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  Speaker 3: one who plays Cyril?
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  Speaker 2: Uh Cyril his name is? I have it right here.
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  Speaker 2: Uh Kyle Solar.
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Solar has done an incredible job. And I know
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  Speaker 3: we're not getting like we're not getting a story that
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: follows like a linear timeline here. I mean it is linear,
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  Speaker 3: but like it's not a continuous linear timeline. Uh. And
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Solars still doing a very good job
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  Speaker 3: showcasing those differences between his character over the year and everything,
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  Speaker 3: and he came off very convincing. In the beginning. I
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  Speaker 3: was very confused with his phone call with his mom,
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  Speaker 3: uh because I was like, wait, Ceil doesn't talk like this,
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  Speaker 3: what like? Yeah, yeah, it was very convincing that he
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  Speaker 3: had flipped the switch to becoming annoyed with the Empire.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really liked that as well. Trying to
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  Speaker 2: think if there's anything else, well, just because well, you
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: know what, we'll talk about that scene specifically later, the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: whole thing at the party and critic and all of that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because that's that's really really nice. Let's jump to Bis
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  Speaker 2: and Cassium.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and y'all, I just want to apologize once again
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  Speaker 3: for my audio. My audios. I'm having issues with headphones
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, and I keep forgetting the mute. Wait Clay
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  Speaker 3: is talking, but I'm also super congested and my drugs
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  Speaker 3: are wearing off, so it's just a hot mess. Again.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very sorry, Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 2: But let's talk about Bix and Cassian specifically. They're this
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: entire arc, episode four through six. Specifically for Bix and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Cassian is strangely enough about morality. It is this idea
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  Speaker 2: that like we don't know if bis prior to the
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  Speaker 2: killing that happened, that those two people that she killed
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: in episode three, like we don't know prior to that,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: how many people she has killed. But with these like
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: hallucinations PTSD driven episodes that she has been having, we
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: know that she had one in the in episode four
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: that was with this soldier and we later find out
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: that Cassian had killed this soldier because he gave the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: excuse he was an Imperial soldier. He is dead and
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: we are alive. We are alive because he is dead
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and that is final.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And Cassie also reasons it was like, Okay, this is
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: what he signed up for. I signed up for this too,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: so if I ended up in a torture chair, I'm
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: be accepting of it. Like obviously I don't want to die,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I know, Hey, that's what I signed up
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: for kind of thing. But Bix breaks up, Hey, you
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: ondly killed him because he saw my face and.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: He asks, what's the difference. I sat there, I paused
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the damn show, and I really thought about it. What's
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the difference when you look at these two conversations, Well,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: if you look at this conversation with these two ways
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: of thinking. Okay, he is an imperial, we know that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: we are rebels. He would have known if the situation
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: would have escalated. Again, we don't know the situation. This
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: happened off screen, so we are just getting small pockets
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: of context here. Okay, he sees them, he probably would
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: have called in for backup, caused a huge mess blah
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: blah blah, and probably would have made their escape a
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: lot harder, if not impossible. So there is that, and
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: so of course Cassian's only thought is, hey, he needs
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to die so we can survive. And then the conversation
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: of seeing her face, it's the exact same thing. If
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: they know their faces, which some of them do, if
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they are actually identified as Cassian and Or and Bicks,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: they are then on the run even further than what
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: they have been.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the Empire has Cassian's face from Cereal's days
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: as a cop. He pulled that then, and they know
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Cassian was involved, So it's like, Okay, Cassie and is
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: hidingg course it. Pix is like, oh yeah, well let's
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: just go to the park, and Cassie's like they it's
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: dog cameras there, we can't go there, like, but this
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: is course hide like they're heide God corse.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: They and but that was that was the thing that
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I was questioning, is like one of my notes is
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: that they are legitimately trying to actually live life as
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: much as they can. They're having strolls, like because, like
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you said, Bix is asking, hey, can we go on
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: a walk tomorrow? Like living a life as a rebel
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: is probably not the greatest, especially with the way that
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Cassian and Bix are living super paranoid. They can't just
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: live freely, So yeah, I can see why this can
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: be so chaotic. One thing that we forgot to mention
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: on the imperial side, Dedra is still wanting to keep
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: notes on Cassian, Like there is one instance where Cassian
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: was kind of mentioned because of this arrest that was
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: made full of like all of these different weapons, and
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: she's like, oh, this is this is part of the rebellion,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Like Cassian needs to be found and was trying to
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: get somebody I can't remember his name.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: It was another supervisor who would take it over the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Access project.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And she was like, oh, you can have all the glory, Bud,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you can have all the glory on this, but you
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: need to pull me in. And he's like, it's not
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: about the glory, Like, it's not about the fame. It's
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: about just doing the job. Yeah, And she got pissed and.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: The other thing. Like Dedra doesn't make a whole lot
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: of appearances in this arc, like I said, but I
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: also feel like he does it either, despite how present
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: he is an episode two. And this is something that's
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: always been a pet peeve for me. If you're going
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: to name a project after a character, that character needs
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: to be the forefront. And it's something that Ander has
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: struggled with the entire way because it's got a vast cast.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying there's a problem with that, but
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: what I am saying is maybe we could have named
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: this something different in order to accomplish the same goal.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: We're gonna go into our second ad break and we'll
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: be right back.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: So with Bix and Cassian, you know they have this
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: whole debate about morality and whatnot, and we know that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Bix is currently having a little bit of a substance
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: abuse problem, but it's the only way she can relax,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it seems it's the only way she is able to
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: fall asleep, and Cassian and Luthan both know about this issue,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: so it seems.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: And Luthen doesn't want her addicted because then that means
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: she's not useful. Yeah, and Cassian obviously wants her better
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: for his own mental health and everything. And Luthen pays
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Bix a visit while Cassian is on.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: His mission at Gorman.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his mission at Gorman. And Cassie comes back and
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: finds out and is like, dude, this ain't cool, Like
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: you goes.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: To Luthan's shot guys, and this is this is part
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: of Luthen's story too that I want to slap the motherfucker.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: My thoughts on Luthen from season one to season two
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: have totally flipped. This motherfucker gaslighting everyone everyone with all
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: of these thoughts of like, oh, like I thought you
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: were in for this. I thought you did. It's like
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you pulled them in. You did this, You.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Pulled them in, and you know what, there's nothing wrong
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: with also taking some time and pretending like there's nothing wrong,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think bicks who's like, yeah, let's like
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: go get some pretty dishes like towels, like spowers. I
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: don't think there's anything wrong with that to just pretend
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you have some area of normalcy in your life.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: You need some humanity to keep yourself sane. Yeah. Right,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And with this though, one of the next scenes that
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: we see with Bicks, she goes into this building and
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: she well, first, no, no, no, we don't even see her
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: go into the building.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: No, we don't.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: We see doctor. We see doctor Gorst, and we have
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: been seeing him quite some time season, and we also
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: saw him last season. He is the one that tortured Bix.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, because that's another thing we forgot. So Patter Gaz
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: tells Lonnie and the other supervisor that's in charge of
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: the Access project. Oh, the Navy really likes how doctor
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Gorse's he calls them interviews. But like the torture sessions
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: are going, we'd like to expand this program. We're going
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: to give you a whole warehouse and set up trading
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: grismands and you're gonna be in charge of this. That's
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: important because of this last scene. And we can go
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: back and talk about Cassie and al Gorman. Yes, but
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: like I need to talk about this last scene.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: So, so we see doctor Gorse. He goes into this room.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Of course where the seat is, and you just the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: lights turn on and you see Bix in the corner.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh shit, And my mind went to, girl,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? You are going to get in
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: so much trouble. This is gonna be much harder on Cassie.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: And then you think like you're gonna make it so
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: much harder for them to move forward with the rebellion.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get caught, like all these different things are
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: gonna happen. I was so tearing her down and I
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: want to apologize.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, it was another nightmare.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I I felt that it was too real.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I had completely lost context of where we were at
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: because again I didn't get to pay super close to
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: these episodes. But I went back and watched Cassie and
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: with Lucid and Cassie, it's like, you want me in this,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: you will help me fix this, And in that instance,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I thought he was talking about something else. He's talking
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: about fix yeah, like please help me put her back
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: together is basically what he's saying.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And so I thought it it felt too real to
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: be a dream. So I was like, oh no, girl,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: like this is this is this is bad. This is bad,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: and she just leaves him in the cha walks away,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: so you know he's gonna be tortured for hours before
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: they can even find him. He's probably gonna be dead
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: a freaking vegetable before anybody can even find him. She
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: goes down this hall. Of course, a security guard is like, hey,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: you can't be here. Boom, she blasts him, and I'm
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: just thinking, oh god, this is even worse. What are
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you doing? And the camera shifts to only see her
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: walking away, and then the camera spans back again and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you see Cassie in right next to her, and my
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: jaw hit the fucking floor because never did I think,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: holy shit, he's actually somewhat walking away, but not really.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: He is telling everybody with this statement, she is more
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: important than anything else. She is my rock. If she
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: is not good, then I am not good. If you
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: want me to be a good she needs to be
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: better and this is how she's gonna get better, So
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna help her.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But like I said, my brain was basically spewing out
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: my ears. I was like, what it was so goodography.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: In that shot with the visual effect was killer.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Looks like something you would see in an action bitter movie.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: That's like I had people working on it for years
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: kind of thing, like it looks really good.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so good.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: And I was super proud of this because she didn't
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: overdo it, she didn't get caught, she winted, she knew
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: her mission, Like, hey, this guy's gonna die screaming with
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: this sounded his ears, but I'm also going to blow
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: up the building for dramatic effect, like yeah, kill it,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: kill it, Cirl.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my heart is so good. Uh, I'm
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: much in the scene now, like you can kind of
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: you even see her kind of like have her eyes
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: like moved to Cassian and you're like what and then
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: he jumps in the frame. Oh so good, so so good.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: But moving to this is we'll be able to talk
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: to about Cassian at Gorman because we're gonna move to
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Santa and yeah, talk.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: About Cassian in episode two on Gorman, and then we're
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: gonna kind of jump into Santa and Bell because both
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: of us kind of intertwined.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, So.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Sin sins Cassian automission and is like, hey, Gorman, I
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: hear it's good, like because he's heard from Longmie, like hey,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: there's something going on to Gorman, and Cassian is basically
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: his best rep at this time that he trusts, and
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: so he goes, you're gonna go to Gorman. You're gonna
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: tell me if it's worth getting into And this is
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: where we get to see Cassie and all dressed up.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: We thought potentially in the trailer shots, oh, he's going
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to lead his wedding, like he's going to be at
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: lead his wedding. No, he's a fashion designer.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: And I've seen a lot of people kind of make
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: fun of this. I think it was a good front
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: as from what we've heard, especially from Luthen, Gorman is
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: a planet of wealth, so like I think it makes
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: sense to have somebody high class, like a like a designer,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: a clothing designer, visit you know, see you know what
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: they can what they can do in the city. Uh
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was very clever, very.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Fun, because you can't go in as the poor person
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: in that if you go in as a factory worker,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to move around like
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: somebody high classes. That's just unfortunately the way of the
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: world right now, and it's the way of the world
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: in Star Wars as well. So I think it was
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a very good plot, the cover story for him, and
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I liked how he was going to like the flight
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: deck and had his cover story playing his ear for
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: probably like Cleia or somebody. So he gets to Gorbuant
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: and he gets to be in these fancy hotels and everything,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: and then he goes to a coffee shop and like
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: starts getting down the lay of the land. Well, the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: daughter of the leader of the Garb Brunt basically jumps
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: ahead of him and is like, Hey, we gotta talk
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: right now, and Cassie is like, no, we don't. You're
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: getting I.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Love this scene. This scene where Cassie in just completely
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: shows how inexperienced these Gorman rebels are, because he says,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you don't know me. I might be the friend you've
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: been talking to. I might be imperial, I might be isb.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: You just killed everyone you loved. Hey, but guess what
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you got lucky this time because I am the person
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: you're looking for. I was like, ah, Like the delivery
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of that of that whole segment was so good.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Cassian has learned so much from season one about who
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: he is and how to be a spy effectively, just
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: like the swapness and how could in control. He feels,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: you can like diego, Luda kills it in this like
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: just bringing him to life and showcasing this transformation that
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: he's had over the years.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love this. So the next day he
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: meets with of course her father and everybody else that's
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: a part of this movement, and they give Cassie in
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the rundown on what's been happening, you know, and of
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: course Cassie, in the way that he is, is like, hey,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: is it even safe to do this right right now?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And they're like, we looked for bugs. It's totally fine.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: He's like, wouldn't that look very like like like you
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you aren't you showing your hand here? You're looking for bugs.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: He's like no, like everybody does it actually, Uh, it's
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: kind of a little sport we do because it's become
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: this thing in Gorman now that's like, hey, we know
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the empire is here for us.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Well, they're also able to play it off because I mean,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and this is a real thing. Like designers take from
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: other people. That's why there's copyrights, that's why there's trademarks nowadays,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: is to prevent people from stealing other things. So like
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the leader guy is basically like, yeah, I mean people
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: will steal by recipe, like yeah, so yes, I'm picking
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: bugs for the Empire. But here's my legitimate reason.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the overall assessment that uh Cassian feels out
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of Gorman is they're inexperienced, They're rushing things, They're going
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to get themselves killed. I want nothing to do with this.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And that's what he tells Luthen, and it says fuck you.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah see, and here is another fuck Lutheran story for you,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: because Cassian says like, no, I don't want any part
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: of this, and he and Luthen says like, oh, this
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: is a rich like land, like you know, it could
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: be the forefront of the rebellion because he wants that spark.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Luten wants something to happen to where the rest of
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the galaxy will say, hey, this isn't right, let's move
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: forward with this rebellion towards the Empire. That's what Luden wants.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, because Gorman is also a very prosperous planet, and
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: so it would be the first prosperous planet to kind
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: of make that connection to the rebellion. Obviously, you have schedulate,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: you have Aldaran. Both Bail and Mind at this point,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: because we're going to talk about Bail have not made
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: like a legitimate commitment, like a vocal commitment to the rebellion.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: They're doing everything in secret.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Mm hm.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: So if Gorman makes a play for the rebellion, that
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: makes it more potent for other rich and prosperous planets
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: to come join it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Cassian says, and what if they fail? And
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Luthen says, then it's a spark that's gonna burn brighter
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: than ever. And I just said, fuck you, man, this
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: dude does not care, he does about anyone, anyone. And
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: this will be even more transparent when we talk about
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: him and Clia, because I have some fucking words. So
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: he calls Claia and he says, of course, they're always
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: talking in code. He's like, oh, I heard you have
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: another item heading this way. He said, I just delivered it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And this moves our story from Cassie and being at
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Gorman to well being at Gorman.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: And we're about to jump into our third ad.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Y'all.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: We promise we'll be right back.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: We promise, well means well, that's the thing. Bell comes first,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: and then the next day we see Santa show up
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and we learn that Belle didn't want to do this
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: unless Centa was there. Katie, I knew, I knew what
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: was going to happen. I did the moment Santa said, oh,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I had an accident. I'll tell you sometime, and Belle
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: said you can tell me now, and she said no,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you some other time. When that went down,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, girl, no, you better tell her
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: now because there's not going to be your next time.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Hearing that now. Yes, I should have put it together,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: because yeah, that's classic trop right there, Very to die.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did like the butting of heads with this
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: bell taking control of the mission of the Rebellion of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Gorman and these other individuals saying like this person just
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: fucking walked in the in the door and now she's
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: taking control. Fuck this, Like we've been working hard at
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: doing this for months, if not years, and they're just
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: gonna take it over. Blah blah blah. Yep and vell
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: and since a Boat said like, hey, you've never fucking
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: done this before, so sit back, buckle your seatbelt and
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. Is basically what you walk it away? Yeah, yeah,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: well they did not walk away. They didn't. They went
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: through the whole scenario. They went out to observe the
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: street that everything was gonna go down at and made
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: sure everything was going to happen exactly how they said it.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: They planned it out and they said, okay, we're doing
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: this tomorrow night. See y'all. Peace out. Then, of course
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: things got a little hot and heavy between Santa and Veil.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And even then when that happened, I was like, oh, yeah,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: just just this is the last dance, if you will.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: And when everything went down, it was going down without
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: a hitch. Everything was going according to plan. There's two
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: moments that happened that you could see where the domino
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: start to fall. So in the actual meeting of how
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: this is all going to go down, Vell tells the
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: getaway driver, Hey, do not leave your post. If you leave,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: that will cost all of us. Our lives were all dead.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Don't move. There's a moment when there's some ran I'm
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: civilian and she takes her and walks away. We don't
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: see her again. But then there is a younger kid.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: This is the candy salesman that has been interacted with Cyril.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Cyril, yes, he had gotten mad at Bell because again
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: he was one of the individuals that was like, hey,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: why are you in charge? Like all of this other stuff,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: and one of the biggest things, the biggest demands of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Bell and Santa were nobody gets a blaster. The only
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: people that will be carrying blasters is Santa and myself,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: And that was what Vale was saying. We then during
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the operation see a familiar face from episode four. Episode four,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: there was a secret meeting town hall of all of
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: the Gormans basically having it out of like, Hey, this
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: is the shit that's going down with the Empire right
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: now in our own planet, Like, this is what's going on,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: and this dude was having his way and flicking them off.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I guess like the way that they flicked them off
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: is like they put their hand in front of them
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: and they slapped their wrists or their their forearm, is
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: how I guess. It's like an inappropriate gesture.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Of Ross and Fred's doing like that.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. This gentleman shows up and he's actually
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: getting pissed off. He's like, what the hell y'all doing?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, Like he's he's purposely he calls out
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: the young kid. He knows him specifically, and he calls
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: him and he's like, Hey, what's going on? Blah blah blah,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: And this kid pulls out a fucking blaster. He's like,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: step back, I don't want to do this where everything's
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: working out fine, blah blah. And the dude's like, oh,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: you pull the blaster. You want to kill me. If
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: you're gonna kill me, you better fucking do it now,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: or this is gonna get a lot worse for you.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: There is a struggle. The blaster goes off and you
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: don't see who it hits, at least not immediately, and
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: then when people start to gather, when people are trying
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: to figure out what the hell's going on, that's when
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Bell looks down and sees who got shot.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I was so bad about this because I feel like
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: it needed to be said to who survived to kind
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: of realize what she had and then like go like, okay,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I need to stand up to luthd or. I don't
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: think this is going to teach Bell to stay up
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: to Luthed.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I know people don't want to hear it, but the
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: only reason why she died is because she's brown. Have
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: all those people, she's the only brown person that died.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: We have seen the underlining tone, the underlining story of
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: this series. The people of color are always the ones
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that have the worst times during war, right now that
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: is bis Cassian and now Senta being dead.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good point because I was the
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: main reason why I was like, okay, it's Centa is
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: because the actress is the new doctor who like.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Con Yes, yes, makes sense. I thought I recognized her
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: by the way I didn't hit. I didn't connect the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: two until you just said him. I was like, Yep,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: that's totally true.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it totally makes sense when you think about it,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: not not like it totally makes sense, like there's a
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: good reason for it in this case because you probably
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: didn't have the shooting schedule to get a bunch of
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: in or stuff filmed.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: H correct.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: At least that's my hope, and that Gilroy then changed
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: the script to be like, okay, we're writing said to out. Yeah,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: because it just sucks because I really like her in
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Star Wars. I think she's a really good character. Uh.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I think that they have a great dynamic. And again
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I know that I get my there there is if
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: people don't know if you're just now listening to us
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: for the fact that you're wanting to listen to and
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: or reviews. It is a ongoing thing for me personally
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: in our reviews of any book, TV show, or whatever.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I need characters to have somewhat of a happy ending.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: That's what I personally want, Senta, and well, we're characters
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: that I was hoping, out of all of the chaos
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: and all of the bullshit that they would still have
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: somewhat of a happy ending. That is not the case,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: the case at all. No, And when this happens, they
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: all just pick up and go. They still have to
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: move on with the mission because that's what it is.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And even they'll like, she is a little shell shocked,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: but her feet are still able to move, She's able
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: to do everything. When they finally get on the truck
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: with all of the cargo, they leave and this kid
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: starts to cry, and I nearly started to freaking like
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: tear up myself with how this actress was able to
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: deliver this line of Oh, she was more than you
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: will ever be in this entire rebellion, Like you don't
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: deserve to be able to cry. She was my world.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: She was like all of these different things. I loved
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: this scene. It was so heartbreaking. She delivered it so well. Yep,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: but this is what happens when you don't follow command,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: and this is exactly what Santa even said.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: People will lose their lives when they don't follow command,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: and it's super frustrating that it had to happen to Santa.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I still don't think the Gorban front is going to
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: basically be like hey, but like she died for a
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: good cause kind of thing, Like this kid is not
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: going to take any blame, even though I want him to,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: because I think that's just the way the rebellion is
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: going to work. Like who knows, maybe they're going to
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: bring in this random stormtrooper that just happened to be
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: walking by and that's who shot Cinta instead of the
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: candy salesman kid.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: So it was.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Really heartbreaking to watch. I was super upset by getting
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: to this scene because it's like, dude, like that Santa,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: and she was a really important character I think. And
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: again they do get the LGBTQ representation in with the couple.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: They have like a one best romance scene kind of thing.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Like you said, it still sucks.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it does. It really really does. But I
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: think that can lead us into Luthen and Claya's story
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: for this arc.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Which that leads into mad Mathma Bail. Do we want
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: to go ahead and talk about Bay?
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I got spoiled.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I was wondering, but I did want to ask in
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: case it was somebody else. Uh.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: This this was the thing. Of course. The recast was
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the spoiler that got me literally before episode one, like,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: that's the thing. This happens on episode six.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: It looks like it was a trailer based on like
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: some of the screenshots people are showcasing. What yeah, Like
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: there's already pictures of Bail in the Senate chamber. Really yeah,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: because that was my big question after watching episode six,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, please tell me, Like, and I
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: have faith a little bit, but I'm also used to
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Dave Filodi who's like, oh yeah, cameo, cameo, cameo. Oh,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: So I was like, please tell me. He and to
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: hear just so people talk about this now literally what
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Tony Gilroy said. So it is Sitate invested Sure Week,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: which basically correlates with Empire Day relatively. It's where the
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Senate makes their commitments back to the Senate. There's like
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: big celebrations and everything, and that's where like the final
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: that's where Man, Bathma, Luthen, and Clia all end up
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: at as one of these parties with Skaldon and so
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Manmatha and Parent are walking in and Bail is walking
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: out and you just get this brief interaction and Parent's like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: well what about Bria, and Bale's like nah, like we
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: decided to go our like hit separate parties this time around. Yeah,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: And the recast actor himself is Benjamin Brat, which I
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: was super impressed with.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I I love this casting. This has actually been like
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: an ideal recast for me. If anything, if if Jimmy
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: ever decided, hey, I don't want to do this anymore,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: this is exactly who I would need to be Bail. Yeah,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: it's very weird, but he actually he actually has a
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: like current relationship with Disney right now with Coco. So
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: uh if if if nobody knows, uh, if you have
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: never seen Coco, Benjamin did have a main role. He
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: was one of the leads in Coco. Uh. Coco is
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: getting a sequel, so I'm sure that relationship is ongoing.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: So I think it was very easy for Disney and
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: even Star Wars to be like, hey, would you be
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: willing to do this?
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: And he he doesn't look exactly like Jimmy, but he's
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: a close match.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: The way, because I do believe I'll have to actually
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: go back and look at the actual episode, but like
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I believe Jimmy's facial hair and Benjamin's facial hair for
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: the exact scene. I think Benjamin has a little bit
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: more gray yeah in there, whereas Jimmy's usually just has
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: like a just kind of a flat like maybe a
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: little bit of salt and pepper, whereas now this one
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: with Benjamin is actually more gray. Yeah. So that's the
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: only difference really, And this.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: This would be our final ad break.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: So y'all thanks for bearing with us. We appreciate y'all.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back. They said this was because Jimmy
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: couldn't make the schedule work with how and or was
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: shooting at like the strikes and everything.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: So Tony did say I did recently see an interview.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was just like a short video on like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: a TikTok or something, but I could have sworn he
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: said that Jimmy actually has a project happening right now.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Whether that be a TV show or a movie, I'm
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: not entirely sure. But he actually has like a whole
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: nother project he's currently working on.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah that I don't know. It sucks that Jimmy couldn't
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: get back, but I would rather have a recast the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: shaddy CGI deep thing.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that they were. They went the route
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: of just this recast because this is what we've been
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: asking for. Hey, whether it be because you know, you know,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: I will not lie back. When I first saw Rogue
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: one and I saw Tarkan, I said to myself, holy shit,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: they actually did it. This is pretty interesting and pretty
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: intense with how accurate this thing is his entire body
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: with CGI, the entire thing. I thought that was impressive
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: at the time. Looking at it now, it would have
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: been a lot cheaper and better for morality overall. Just recast.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: And I get it's so close to a new Hope
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: that people were like, oh, I don't really want it
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: to look any different.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: M No.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have much rather had new people come
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: in h for that movie, but we did, is what
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: it is like. At least Gilroy has taken the sins
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: of the past and God, no, we're.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Not gonna do that exactly. Yeah, who knows.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe Jimmy was like, no, you cannot do that.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe that was it also, right yep. But
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: moving on to Luthen and Clia in episode five specifically, okay,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: because let me actually look at some notes here to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: see if there was anything big with them in episode
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: four did you do? Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: with Luthen and Leah in episode four. It was really
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: episode five. In episode six, there is a line and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I actually have it written down and I've already made
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: the comment Luthen has been gaslighting the fuck out of
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of people this season, and that does not
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: mean that Leiah is out of Harm's way, even though
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: he even though she works with him the closest right
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: he tells her this line, He says, because they're talking
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: about the idea that currently with the party that they're
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: going to in episode six, the collection of items that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: whereas their bug is by the.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Way, Yes, it is all about items over the years
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: to people and putting bugs at them so they can
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: glean the important information.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Yep. And now that one has been found as a forgery.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: They are now all gonna be inspected, and Claia's like,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: oh shit, our bug is gonna be found. She relays
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: this information to Luthan even says because he says, Oh,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: please give me some good news. I need it. And
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: she's like, hah, you're gonna have to wait on that one. Hey,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: you know that bug we have on this item, it's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: gonna be found. They're wiping, you know, they're they're inspecting
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: all of the items. They're gonna find our bug. And
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: this motherfucker has the audacity. He says to Claia these lines,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: we've laid, the signals, the frequencies. I can't keep up
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: with it, and you keep pretending like we can. He
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: points the finger at Claia and says, you think we
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: can do this? Motherfucker. It has been luthing this entire
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: freaking time that has pushed everybody to the brink and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: literally gaslight him to say, like to have them do
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: these crazy ass things for the rebellion, and then him
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: turn around and be like, hey, that was all you,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: That was all you. Fuck that guy. This dude has
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: not a care in the goddamn world for anybody, And
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: you can you can sit here and fight with me
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: and said, hey, it's all for the greater good. It's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: for the rebellion. He's gonna help defeat you know, the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: the the empire is gonna fall one day, and it
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: couldn't have never happened without Luthen.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Fuck all, y'all, yes, because you like tar, pressure is
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: absolutely a thing and people need to get over it.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: That is dropping me off Afred if you have never
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: used Affred, it's freaking miracle drug. Not sponsored, but like
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Afred sponsored. Be questioned, why please hold, I'm gonna turned
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: my camera off because this is a little awkward.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the way that Luthen has been saying this,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: we have been seeing him push everybody's buttons, has crossed
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: the line plenty of times. And again, like I said,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be people that argue for his sake. Oh
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: but look how much of a badass that he was
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: in season one when he you know, was shooting all
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: the lasers and doing all these cool things being a pilot.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Because again he does mention again in this season and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: this arc specifically to Cassian, like oh yeah, I was,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I was a rebel pilot and this is how I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: you know, made connections to Gorman and blah blah blah blah.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: So we know that Luthan at one point probably had
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: a good head on his shoulders. But just like this
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: is the richer, wider Sagerera. Sorry, that's who Luthan is.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Dude, I totally forgot.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: We have a oh no, yeah, yeah, it's a small one,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: but we're gonna have to talk about it last. But yeah,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Luthan is just a wider, richer Sagrera.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Basically he And don't get me wrong, I'm not making
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: excuses for lu Than because just because you feel like
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: crap and you feel like nothing's done, doesn't you can't
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: you can treat people like crap, which is what he's doing.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Does he need a vacation himself? Probably? He probably does
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: because the band is overworked slash overworking Cleia Clia is
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: clearly the brain behind the operation at this point. Yeah,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: because yeah, Clia is killing it and we know from
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: the trailers that Cleia finds out what the death Star
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: really is. Uh so I'm excited to see that happen.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I completely agree. Luthid still scrash Guard until
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: he brought he portrayed Luthan accurately. I feel like, according
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: to the script, he doesn't do anything that I feel
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: like the script isn't telling him to do.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, no, no, no, no no. This is why we
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: tell the difference between the actor and the character. Yes,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: people see this exists, Katie. I feel like, unfortunately we
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: have to say it because there's so many crazy, freaking
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: people out there in this world that still to this day,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: will harass actors for portraying a fictional character. Wild Again,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Scarsguard has done an amazing job portraying a complete asshole. Yep,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: that's all it is. But there is something that I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: have to say boo on the costume designer of this show,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: because you give everybody a new look for almost every
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: freaking scene, and you just have the same variation three
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: fucking times for Clay's outfit. Screw you, guys. She had
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to get all dressed up at this party
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: and she just puts on a freaking robe on top
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: of what she already has. Like, I was a little upset,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: like and of course, like it was supposed to be
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: like this dramatic thing when she like because Lutheran was like, oh,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the riot's here, and she like turns around and like
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: fixes her little thing and like fluffs out the shoulders
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: and everything else. It looks great. I love the way
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: she looks. But I looked at it the second time around,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the exact same thing she wears
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: every damn date. I didn't like this.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Wild because I still, especially in episode six, I looked
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: at her and was like, Wow, she really could have
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: been Leah. Like they were to have recast Leah for
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: like post Return of the Jedi stuff, I would have
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: picked this actress.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: And she gorgeous.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: She's gorgeous, and especially when she had her hair straight
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: to go meet Velle in season one, Oh my gosh,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: did she look like Leah? Like Carrie Fisher who.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Like, she looks good? And I love this actress by
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: the way, she has done an amazing job because she
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: also her character even stands up to Luthan when she can. Yep,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: she understands that she's in the think of it with him.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: There's some things that she probably just says, Hey, let
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: him just vent for a while, and then I'm gonna
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: stand up for myself whenever I need to. Here, she
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: takes control of the fucking situation.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: I'm done with your bullshit. I'm gonna fix this myself.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they go to the party and again
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: we see.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: This is where Maud and Pairing come in, because this
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: is really their biggest appearance in this. Mine is trying
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: to rally up votes to get the po r D disbanded,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: the PRD being the extensive punishment bill that came up
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: and passed after cassian Velle and Syntha in the group
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: robbed the Empire of basically the paychecks, and so Man
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: is trying to get that disbanded and not passed any further,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: and people are like, yeah, no, not happen. So the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: biggest part where mon and parents come into play here
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: is in this party scene as kind of accessories to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Luthen basically and like, oh, we're in laws now, so
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: you get to go see the collection. That's basically what
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: this is. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I can breathe now,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: Sorry guys.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: And so along with this, Cleia grabs supervisor Lannie and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: she he gets all nervous and he's like, hey, like,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell. I'll have to watch it again, but
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell if he had no idea who she
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: was and then she mentioned something that was like, oh shit,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: you're with Luthan.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I think he knew exactly who she was.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they go on to the collection room as well.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: They immediately go to the item where the bug is,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: and he's freaking out. He's like, do you know who's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: in this room right now? Like we need to go.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Kriinic was there again. Man, he knows how to put
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: on a fucking performance. By the way, Absolutely love it.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I love it. But while they're taking this small little
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: tour around this room, she is attempting to take out this.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: So hard she starts bleeding with him.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: There's like this moment where she takes off the head
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: cap of whatever piece of the item where it was,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: and then she tries to twist and twist and twist.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: It's not working. They have to shift along with how
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: the rest of the group is kind of moving around
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: the room so that way they don't look too inconspicuous
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: and everything else.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Lonnie could have done a much better job flirting, Like,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: I know the dude was scared, but really, how hard
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: is it to go Okay, I'm just flirting here? Cool? Great? Thanks?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Well, And the thing is, I think he He's terrified
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: of Luthen and he knows that this person is working
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: with Luthan. He also knows that he's in way too
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: deep also with the Empire there. His worlds are literally
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: clashing in this one room and he doesn't know what
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: to do. Like, I get it, I get it. I
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: totally get why he froze.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: I do, but also like, how hard is it to
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: go in the elevator to the collection room. Okay, I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: need to take a deep break. I need a chill
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: because if I painic, I'm gonna get caught.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: And this should be our final ad break. So y'all,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: thanks for bearing with us. We appreciate y'all. We'll be
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: right back.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: But there's during this whole ordeal, mon Mathma and Critic
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: are actually kind of just going at it. And it
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: is and it's very subtle because again, Mon Mathma knows,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: I have to still put up this front if I
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: say anything that can tip them off to know, like, hey,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I'm actually doing this for the rebellion. In secret, she
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: can't say those things, but she can be a politician.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: We know that there are always two sides of politics,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: and that's the role she's playing here. And it was magnificent.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: I loved this back and forth because it's like like
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: the way that Mendelssohn is just groveling in this sense
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, I know, I'm right. Oh you call
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: it torture, I call it justice. Like this, these like
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: things here's to say, Oh, like, you're such a bad
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: human being in this galaxy. Yeah, but my god, you're
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: playing it so well. I it was just so good.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: I loved it all. I loved it. Yeah.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: And I also love like the little tadbits of history
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: that we're getting in these shots, especially with Lucan's collection, which,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: by the way, the shop now has an additional padme headdress.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: By the way, it has the Queen's headdress in this,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: which I like. H Again, I never see Easter eggs,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: so I got to pointed out when I see them.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: But we got more information on like the Cotton Invaders.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I think there was like one other that was like ooh,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: Legends reference kind of sort of so I can't remember
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: off the top of my head, but I love the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: little history lessons that we're getting, and it feels like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: just little connections that we can continue to make over
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: the years between shows that are like that aren't like
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: super big, but like still make a big difference in
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: building a universe.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for a universe. I feel like a lot
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: of people think they know we always get more, you know.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: So I like that a whole lot. But lo and behold,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: we actually get to see Luthen and Clail walking away,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: and I love the story about the blind yeah storybook
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: and how it like tells the history and all of
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: this other stuff. I thought that was very very clever,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: very cool. And then when they all leave, Clay says, oh,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: you're welcome, by the way, and she just like shoves
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: the bug in his face and then all he does
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: is laugh, like he because he does make a comment
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: of like basically like oh, why why couldn't you like
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: it was either her that made the comment to him
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: or him making the comment to her basically like oh
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: you could have like oft printick right then and there,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: you know, And they both kind of laughed and walked away.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: So I that is one of the most toxic relationships
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: in this entire series. By the way, Clay and Luthen, like,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: I am not down for it, but I do like
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: that she is able to hold her own when she
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: needs to use but yes, we do have one final
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: story arc. That story arc being of course, Saw Guerrera
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: and Wilson Wilman, Willman Wilman.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's either Willman or Willhemon. We just called Will.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Will Okay, uh so Will. I have no idea how
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Will got into this situation.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: So my thought process is is that his dad was
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: an engineer, and Biggs has continued to work with him
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: as an engineer. So it feels like Luthen sent Will
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: to Saw to help stuel fuel basically rightdonium in this case,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: which we have heard of before in I believe Rebels
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: and and Or and maybe one other show and several books.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: But he basically has a riydonium refiner which will process
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: the rydonium into the fuel and make it stable. The
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: refining process is not easy, so Will has been sent
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: to deliver the refiner and train one of saul Saws
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: personnel on how to use it and not blow up, hopefully,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: And so we basically cycle over Will training this person
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: and the person hearing Saw basically go oh yeah, like
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: he seemed too much. So once you've got it, I'm
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: gonna kill him. He's not going back like piloting accidents happen.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which made me.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Super mad because Saul is not about wasting resources on
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: his own side.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: I will admit I was a little satisfied with it
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: because he got our boy killed in the last arc.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: So I was like, hey, if he dies, he dies,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Uh wait are you talking about Like wait what.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: He got Brassos killed? He got Brosso killed.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I'm talking.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm talking about Will. Sorry, like I'm saying, like Will.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: When I saw this story happen, I like there was
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: a there was a moment where I was like, Oh,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: that kind of sucks that he's kind of stuck there
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna die now. But like when I really
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: started to watch the scene, I was like, I hope
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: you die. You're I Am not going to get Brosso back,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: but at least you're dead. If that happens, You're not wrong.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: And saw is on de Car, by the way, which
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: is the sequel trilogy planet that we see in right Skylalker,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: So I liked that connection.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: I like that connection as well.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because we knew Lea had picked de Car because
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: it was a former rebel base. So getting to see
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: that all the different rebel bases over This series has
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: been fun. Yeah, so Will does not end up dying. Uh,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: the guy he was training ends up dying because he
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: was an imperial spy.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: This was wild and I love the attention to detail
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: if you're able to pick up on it. So Will
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: is training this guy and this guy's like, where'd you
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: learn this from? How did you learn to do this?
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Will doesn't say a damn thing. He says, Okay, okay,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: there more questions. I understand. I understand, and he's training
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: his training, he's training to do this, he's learning from Will.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: The next time we see them is when Saw is
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: questioning this dude like, hey, like, how confident do you
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: think you're able to do this? He's like, I need
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: more answers. I need more Like there's so many variables
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: going on in my brain right now because I don't
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: know what I'm supposed to be doing. I need to
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: know where we're bombing, what I'm supposed to be bombing.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Because if I just had one variable instead of all
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: of these variables, yeah, I would be able to focus
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: and do what you need me to do. Second time
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: I watched that.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm really dumb to say that because your whole
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: goal with this refiner is to be able to do
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: multiple variables.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And because not every rede donating feel is the same,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: which is why there's different variations. This is just dumb
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: for him to say that.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: The second time I watched it, I really was like, oh,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: I see it now, Like this is totally just weird
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: for him to be mouthed and off like this.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: It's again the same thing is with like Valencenta, like
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing it now that we're talking about it, but
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: in the moment, but because things were so chaotic, I
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: was like, I don't know why I saw things. This
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: guy's a spy. Like now it makes sense after like
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: talking through it, it makes a lot of sense.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is that sad?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Don't answer that.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: And so when it actually comes to pass when they're
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: having this conversation and he asks Will, hey, is he
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: able to do it with you or without you? Is
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: he is he confident enough to be able to do
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: it without you? And Will says neither. I didn't sign
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: up for this. I only did what I was what
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to blah blah blah, and like he
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: couldn't even finish the sentence bam, blast goes off. The
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: other dude just freaking falls to the floor. Yeah, and
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: he Saw just yells out Trader. He's like, I'm gonna
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: show everybody, and he has his right hand. His right hand.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Dude kneels down, picks out of his chest, out of
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: something in his pocket. There is a recording device. It's
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: like he was relaying all of this to the Empire
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: where actually, you know, there's gonna be a bombardment at
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: this pipeline where we were planning to go. But guess what,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: we're not going to be there. We're actually going to
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: be light years away, you know, just chilling and having fun,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: all this other stuff. Grab everything you can. Whatever doesn't
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: go gets burned. We're tossing it all. And that's what
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: they're doing there. They're setting up these bombs. And then
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: the most wild conversation happens between Saw and Will at
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: the very end of episode five. This again reminds the
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: viewers Saw is out of his flip in mind. He
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: apparently lost.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: And apparently in Rogue one what everybody thought was like
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: a breathing machine like Saw is basically Vader in Rogue one. No,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: he was not Vader. He was huffing bridonium.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like in this weird way, like he has
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: become like this individual that literally cannot live without it.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: He explains it. He Yeah, he explains it to Will
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: that like, you know, this gas becomes so literally intoxicating
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: into somebody's body that it burns your insides, and that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: like it, Like he describes it all this way and
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: that way. And while he's describing this, Will is very carefully,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: very softly, very slowly dealing with this bomb with this
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: giant mask. And he finally gets in Will's face and
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: he's saying all these things. He's like, let's take it
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: off and so breath and he Will just takes it off,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: and you can just see like him like gag and
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: like his shoulders start to convulse and he takes this
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: deep breath and then he like starts coughing and coughing,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: and then he screams out. It's supposed to be this
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: like kind of awakening spiritual moment for Will. That dude
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: is dying next arc. I just know it.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: I was really mad at Will because Will is the definition.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: He's basically living the Hey, this person jumped off the cliff,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: so I should too, like.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, which is dumb.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Don't do that. There's not a way to live. And
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: for some reason, Will's like, yeah, sure, dude, like I'll
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: take this off and I'll huff the ride. Dodium, what what?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: I don't believe what I was watching. And I really
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: need to go back and watch because a lot of people,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: some people, not a lot of people were like, oh,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: this speech by Saw's incredible, like this is the luthen
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: speech for a sauce. I did not process it like that. Well,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: I need to go back and rewatch for sure, and
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: I will because I'm gonna have to rewatch with Matt.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's this moment. I will say that because again,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: I think Saw's best moments are when he has a
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: glimmer of humanity, and a lot of those times those
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: glimmers of reality and humanity are when he mentions his sister.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure he mentioned his sister in this scene.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: I'll have to double check, and he may have been
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: alluding to it. That's the other thing. And so like
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: there's these and and it's again I think it's also
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: Forest Whitaker, Like again, yeah, Forrest Whittaker does an amazing
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: job with this character completely evolving into him. I think
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: it's great. I'm not entirely sure. I would put this
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: on the pedestal quote unquote of what everybody was talking
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: talking about with the Luthen speech, that that pedestal for
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: me is slowly just devolving because of the character that
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: Luthan is becoming in season two. But yeah, I I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: I would probably have to watch episode five again to
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: see if I feel the same way.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: And this should be our final ad break. So y'all,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: thanks for bearing with us. We appreciate y'all. We'll be
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: right back.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: I will keep y'all posting with my second watch of
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: the episodes, because yeah, I need I need another watch. Yeah. Otherwise,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: like from my first watch on these episode, I really
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: enjoyed the episodes. There's a little bit of chaos and
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: like I talked about like more and or because it
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: feels like there's not enough and or and then like
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: some weirdness with Solve that's basically because the character is
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: who he is. Yeah, I don't really have any other
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  Speaker 3: critiques for the episodes. I still think it's doing an
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  Speaker 3: incredible job. Yeah, I wish Disney hadn't screwed us by saying,
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  Speaker 3: let's drop three episodes.
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  Speaker 2: At a night. Yeah, and surprisingly I'm able to get
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  Speaker 2: them done in two days instead of three, But then
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: I'm wanting to rewatch it by like Saturday, and so
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  Speaker 2: like it. It does put a damper on my weekend
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  Speaker 2: plans before we record, and I just need to spread
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  Speaker 2: them out because I think I watched one at like
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: ten o'clock this morning, another one at three, and then
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  Speaker 2: the last one at like six or seven.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, and like, I think the difference is in
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  Speaker 3: getting two episodes in Wednesday night. It is we don't
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  Speaker 3: have to wait until nine pm. Because these episodes came
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  Speaker 3: out at seven. I would have no problem getting three
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  Speaker 3: episodes in yeah, but because it's nine o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: And go to bed, Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest difference in getting it done
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  Speaker 3: in two days. And typically I'm good with it in
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  Speaker 3: two days. I just traveled and had to plan a
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  Speaker 3: birthday party this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and guys, we we both have little kids. Like
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  Speaker 2: it's it's rough, but I think that is it for
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  Speaker 2: this episode. Uh, at least that's what I think that.
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  Speaker 2: Did we miss anything as far as story arcs anything?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: I believe, So yeah, I think we're doing good. But
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  Speaker 3: I know I liked your April graphic.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was on Fable. They do like a round
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  Speaker 2: up for every for every month.
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  Speaker 3: And so I mean to use it more than because
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: I've seen people post them and I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: It does it for you. That's the best part because
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  Speaker 2: for me, I was doing the same thing and I
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• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: when like it was generating it for me, I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I can do this. This is easy. So yeah, we
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: are three days into May and I am already reading
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: four books. I don't know who I am anymore. Katie.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: It's it's absolutely insane. Have you. I did finish, Leah.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: I am currently reading the prequel of the Wheel of Time.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: I am also reading because I got it early. Uh,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: the Valiant Value jealous Uh for our next review that
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: should be coming up of course, like we said at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of this review orself.
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  Speaker 3: Next review, because we have Tales of the Underworld now.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: Tails of the Underworld as well. Then I am also reading.
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  Speaker 3: Uh uh.
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  Speaker 2: Shoot what was it? Uh? Oh, just because it became
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: available on Libby, I am going to duel read. I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: am going to listen and read read Rising finally. Nice,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: It's on my list. And now I have somebody at
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: work saying, hey, I saw that you were reading Way
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: of the Kings. I just finished it, and I was like, hey,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: hold your horses, I'm not done with that yet. Don't
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: say anything. So now I'm even more pressured to finish
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: that book faster than I need to. So yeah, those
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: are the four books that I am currently reading.
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  Speaker 3: Reading. I think I have like seventeen days left until
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: I get Way of the Kings from my library because
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: I had to sit my copy back to the library.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: So yeah, as soon as I get Away of the Kings.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: Because we have like a lull for a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So as soon as I get that book, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: knock it out.
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  Speaker 2: Then I might just speed read and see what I
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: can get done. It is apparently not for the fainto
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: heart guys. The Cosmir Universe or whatever you want to
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: call it. For Brandon Sanderson, it's like close to twelve
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  Speaker 2: books or something.
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  Speaker 3: All thousand pages each.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're insane. I think what I'm gonna do instead
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: of going immediately into book two. Apparently there's quite a
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: few novellas and standalones okay that are in the universe
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: that I will probably pick up before I jump into
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: book two, because I can't jump into another thousand plus
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  Speaker 2: page book and be like, hey, let's just do this.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: And plus I already promised Katie that after reading Way
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: the Kings, I would be jumping into Fourth Way. So
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: that's the next book Afterway of the Kings. But yeah,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: that's what my book journey is looking like. If you'd
• 1:36:54
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• 1:37:26
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