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Panthers vs Packers NFL DFS Showdown | TNF Week 8 Showdown Shippers | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, aka ToeTag and Tambo,
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of Showdown Shippers. We got the
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night football edition. We got the Panthers at the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: Going to break that down to kick things off for
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  Speaker 2: week eight. As usual, go through the captains. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about it as the grand scheme overview from our guy
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  Speaker 2: Hoopster here. Got hoop, got title as usual. Then we'll
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  Speaker 2: go through the position by position. The end, we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about a little bit of fan duel, roster construction, ownership,
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  Speaker 2: different factors like that. But Starting a little bit early,
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  Speaker 2: as our man Gary says. Anyone else excited? Very excited
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  Speaker 2: for different reasons. I know Title's excited because the Brewers
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  Speaker 2: just won the World Series last night, and he's going
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  Speaker 2: to the Packers and Panthers game tonight. And then we
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  Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about over at Chivit Nation,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to get right into that quickly before
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  Speaker 2: we hop into everything else, and then I'll bring these
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  Speaker 2: guys in. Let's get our man Hoop in here as well.
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  Speaker 2: do all that so it's just a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: upgraded there but the big news want to shout out
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  Speaker 2: our girl nika this is phenomenal stuff so last night
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  Speaker 2: She turned $ 5 into $ 100, 000. She said she fell asleep,
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  Speaker 2: woke back up, didn't go back to sleep for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the night. Nika is a member over at
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  Speaker 2: Ship It Nation. She's been with DFS Mastermind since pretty
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  Speaker 2: much day one. She's even done an NBA DFS process
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  Speaker 2: breakdown course over at DFS Mastermind. So you guys are
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  Speaker 2: over there. But after Rick getting the 75K shipper and
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  Speaker 2: her getting the 100K shipper, Rick gave away a main
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  Speaker 2: event ticket to this week. So we have a winner
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  Speaker 2: this week. He's going to be playing the $ 1, 500 ticket
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  Speaker 2: in the main event on DraftKings. Talk about this all
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  Speaker 2: the time. Sight's not really giving away much these days.
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  Speaker 2: Most of them are trying to make as much money
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  Speaker 2: as possible off their community. We're giving $ 50, 000 plus back
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  Speaker 2: in cash and prizes with Ship It Games and our
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  Speaker 2: partners over at SaberSim. But this week, Nika winning last
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  Speaker 2: night in the Golden Shipper. So if you're an all
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  Speaker 2: access or NFL only member, She has added five cash prizes.
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  Speaker 2: She's given away $ 3, 000 of her 100K. You just unheard of.
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  Speaker 2: That's so generous. And Nika, we appreciate you so much.
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  Speaker 2: The winner of the Golden Shipper, the top three will
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  Speaker 2: get the Golden Shipper tickets as usual. The winner will
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  Speaker 2: get an additional $ 1, 000 cash, second $ 800, third $ 600. fourth
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  Speaker 2: is going to be 400 and down to 200 for
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  Speaker 2: fifth place. So $ 3, 000 total. So shout out to Nika,
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  Speaker 2: just some amazing stuff. You want to go over on
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  Speaker 2: my ex account. You can show her some love there.
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  Speaker 2: She won the a hundred K. She talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, said she didn't really sleep after the fact.
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  Speaker 2: If you go to DFS Mastermind and you're a member,
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  Speaker 2: you can find her course under the sports NBA section.
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  Speaker 2: You can see she broke it all down here. It
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  Speaker 2: was about an hour and a half that she went through.
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  Speaker 2: And then if you guys are playing NBA, just so
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  Speaker 2: you guys know right now on the Ship It Nation
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  Speaker 2: X account, if you ever need help with late swaps,
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  Speaker 2: so many people say they don't have a process, you
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  Speaker 2: can go check out our pinned post over there, the
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  Speaker 2: article for Late Swap is live as well. But Hooser,
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  Speaker 2: got to bring you in, man. A lot of stuff
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  Speaker 2: going on over at The Nation. Another fun slate ahead.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on with you, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing? Yeah, doing well. Congrats, Nick. And then
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome, the give back stuff. Like you said, people
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  Speaker 1: nowadays aren't giving away money like that. When it gets
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  Speaker 1: in their pocket, it's not going back out, especially in
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  Speaker 1: a giving manner. So very cool to see. Very cool
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  Speaker 1: to see small amounts of money turn into massive amounts.
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  Speaker 1: So congratulations. to her, uh, in terms of this game,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely a, definitely a good one. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you got, uh, a relatively high total close spread and
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  Speaker 1: two offenses that have had success this season and two
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  Speaker 1: offenses that have a lot of different pieces. The passing
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  Speaker 1: game has been effective, uh, for both sides and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the running games as well. And then the Packers running
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  Speaker 1: game is getting a boost with Josh Jacobs back. He
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  Speaker 1: looked fine and very active in the passing attack. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: It's a very fun game for fantasy purposes. Like if
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  Speaker 1: this was on the main slate, it would be a
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  Speaker 1: popular game, right? Like a lot of people would come here,
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  Speaker 1: stack it up, play it in a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: We get it in showdown format, and it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be fun because there's a lot of different ways to build,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different potential captains. So we'll talk through
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  Speaker 1: it all like we always do and see where we land.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, get more of a grand scheme overview from you
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  Speaker 2: in a second. We'll just bring you in there. But, Title,
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  Speaker 2: going to you, like I said, an exciting time, right?
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  Speaker 2: The chat's already talking about it. We've got some Discord favorites.
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  Speaker 2: Our man, Wardo, you think back to the NBA season
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  Speaker 2: ending last year. He was a very passionate fan, got
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  Speaker 2: to say it that way. But shout out to Wardo,
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  Speaker 2: and he got his Knicks across the line. But you
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  Speaker 2: got yourself. nades. I'm thinking about new wins. There's a,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of people in the discord. I'm forgetting people, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Donnie Draper. There's a bunch of people that
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  Speaker 2: obviously were fired up for these brewers. Where does this
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  Speaker 2: one rate out for you, my friend? And then obviously
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  Speaker 2: excitement tonight and get out of this game, but talk
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  Speaker 2: to me, man. Brewers got the job done. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: it was really cool for sure. I will admit, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I've been blessed. I saw Rogers beat the Steelers. I
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  Speaker 2: saw Giannis drop his nutsack on the suns. And I
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  Speaker 2: saw the brewers, the, the brewers is the third for me.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. Buck's, I was down at
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  Speaker 2: the Deer District. That was in my prime every single game.
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  Speaker 2: So that was number one for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I remember. I remember a title in Deer District. How
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  Speaker 1: many years ago was that? Man, what?
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  Speaker 3: They won in 2020, I want to say it was. Oh, no,
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  Speaker 3: 2020 was maybe even before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were doing shows at the previous spot. And
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  Speaker 1: you were like, as soon as this show is over,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Deer District.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was there every single. That was the prime
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  Speaker 4: for sure. Good times in the game. That's yeah. Great times.
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  Speaker 4: That was number one for me. Packers.
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  Speaker 3: I love always Packers title town. I'm heading to title town.
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  Speaker 3: So that was number two, seeing Rogers do it. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: really cool to see the Brewers. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 3: almost never a sweat though with these, this team, I
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  Speaker 3: saw Rasmussen say it's the best team he's been in
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  Speaker 3: the big leagues for seven years, the best team he's
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  Speaker 3: ever seen play.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just really impressive.
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  Speaker 3: But the name talent, you see the Dodgers and all this,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have the name talent, but playing the right
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  Speaker 3: way and playing all phases of the game really means
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  Speaker 3: a lot.
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  Speaker 4: So Yeah, really cool to see.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, definitely outside of where I'm at, the suburbs
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, this is the biggest thing. The oldies love baseball.
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  Speaker 3: They could care less about the NBA and all that.
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  Speaker 3: The community-wise and that, by far, my father-in-law, everything, this
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  Speaker 3: is number one for most people. Still love it over here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, headed to the game, pumped about that. But, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I know someone who's having a better day, and that's Nika.
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  Speaker 3: So shout-out to Nika. Very, very generous, too.
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  Speaker 4: But did you say $ 5? Like, she single-bulleted that?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think she's, but it's like the idea.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying like, Hey, can you
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  Speaker 2: turn like, you know, thousands of dollars to do this?
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  Speaker 2: You don't. And that's why she wanted, she was going
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  Speaker 2: to give away seven 50 to five different people. And
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  Speaker 2: then she just said, let's just make it like a
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  Speaker 2: running tier. So there's still some competition juices flowing, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think, I think she maxed it. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: for sure in front of me, I could find it,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Seven 50 or five in a hundred K. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a, that's, that's quite the run. So shout out
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  Speaker 3: to Niko. Great, great team. I mean, less than 1%
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon. It was, it was designed beautifully for a
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  Speaker 3: flagship contest like that. So yeah, very well deserved.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Curry was in there too. I think at low ownership,
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  Speaker 2: he had 69 points or something like that last night.
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  Speaker 2: So Yeah, pretty incredible stuff. But like Hoop said, people
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  Speaker 2: hang on to their money. Most of these companies and
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  Speaker 2: these other sites that you're up against, I mean, they're
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  Speaker 2: charging way more than we charge and they're not giving
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  Speaker 2: anything back, right? They're trying to keep it all in
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  Speaker 2: their pockets. So we're trying to give back. It's a
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  Speaker 2: really cool community to be a part of. Now that's
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  Speaker 2: Nika's $ 3, 000, Rick's $ 1, 500 ticket. sharks, 4,900, basically $ 5, 000. He
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  Speaker 2: gave back to the pool. And then of course the
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  Speaker 2: overall 45,000 plus with sharks money now 50 K to
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  Speaker 2: make that we're giving back. So I think it's been,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just an incredible run for the community. If
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  Speaker 2: you guys aren't a part of it, go to ship
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  Speaker 2: at nation.com and check it out. Um, what did they
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  Speaker 2: say to you about the, uh, the brew crew and
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: just going back here, somebody else said something, how it's done.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about how it's stacked up with baseball, but
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  Speaker 2: Still an incredible thing. That game four was wild, right?
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: I know last night was everything, but the fact that
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  Speaker 2: game four, you're like, oh man, and when it's in
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  Speaker 2: the 12th and somebody hits a home run, hope you're
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: a baseball guy. We're coming back to you for the
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  Speaker 2: grand scheme overview. When that happens, I know that it
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  Speaker 2: still can happen. There's still a whole bottom of an
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  Speaker 2: inning to play, but when you're watching that whole game
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  Speaker 2: and it's tied and then your dude hits that homer,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh man, this might be it. And then
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  Speaker 2: for it to turn around, and I can just remember
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: from cheer for the Jays last year, like that shot
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  Speaker 2: when Pahas jumps over Hernandez and like, that was it.
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  Speaker 2: Like everything, the Kirk at home, like every move, it
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  Speaker 2: feels like this is about to be it. And so
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  Speaker 2: just some incredible stuff to get there. I think like
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  Speaker 2: title said, it was probably inevitable, but took an extra game.
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  Speaker 2: We got one more out of them, more DFS action
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  Speaker 2: for people as well. But yeah. Anything else to add
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  Speaker 2: on this stuff, Hoop? If not, we started early so
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: we could get through this stuff and then get to
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  Speaker 2: the game, but anything else you want to add?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at this point in baseball, it's like
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  Speaker 1: anyone but the Yankees and Dodgers. Everyone's rooting for us,
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: so it was nice to see a team like Milwaukee
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  Speaker 1: who appears to have done it the right way and
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  Speaker 1: not the bullshit path that the Dodgers have been taking.
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  Speaker 1: It's cool to see. It's good for the sport, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully it's enough to avoid a lockout for for next year.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's the main takeaway. But I mean, overall,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it was, you know, title kind of alluded
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  Speaker 1: to it kind of anticlimactic. I mean, it was really
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  Speaker 1: good if you were a Brewers fan, obviously, but from
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  Speaker 1: just like an entertainment standpoint, like the Brewers were always
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  Speaker 1: winning this, like from the beginning, like, and obviously they won,
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  Speaker 1: Ray's got that one game. And then Brewers said, all right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll put you back in the timeout chair in the corner.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what they did last night.
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  Speaker 3: Last year's was way better. Yeah, it wasn't even close. Like,
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  Speaker 3: last year's was as good as it gets. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: as a Brewer fan, it was fun. But baseball fan,
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  Speaker 3: not really.
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  Speaker 2: Last year's, because of Hoop's point, though, everyone was just
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  Speaker 2: rooting against the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Against the Dodgers, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But just how crazy the series was. And, like, the
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  Speaker 3: biggest– like, it was just back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: It was crazy, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, I looked it up. So we, we use DFSOS.com.
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  Speaker 2: We posted about it yesterday as well. Obviously someone we're
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: partnered with, you can use code ship it over there. But, uh,
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: if you go here and you could go under the
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: slate review and then I pulled it and PhD underscore Aggie,
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: you can open it up. I just opened it up
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  Speaker 2: in another tab, but she had the 150 lineups. Uh,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: it looks like if you go down and see, it's
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  Speaker 2: like the next closest lineup was three 31. It's just
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  Speaker 2: that one bullet is all it takes. Maybe you got
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  Speaker 2: to get that thing across the line. You said it
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  Speaker 2: it's Steph Curry, 1.4% owned, 69 points. And then you had,
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  Speaker 2: who's the other one you said? Yeah, Aaron Gordon, 0.6% ownership,
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  Speaker 2: almost 40 there. So again, congrats to Nika. Shout out
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  Speaker 2: to her. This is awesome. Hoop, anything else you forgot
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  Speaker 2: earlier with the grand scheme overview? Let's hop into this game.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a really good one here, like you said.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's, you know, previously just kind of laying out
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  Speaker 1: the game and I guess the excitement for it from
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  Speaker 1: a DFS perspective. And when you start kind of digging
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: into it, it's really good just because there's, so many
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: different ways this game can go, like I talked about.
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  Speaker 1: Both teams have had success passing the ball. Both teams
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: now have very competent running backs as well. Both teams
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  Speaker 1: have multiple pass catchers that they can go to if
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: looking to pass. I guess the one main thing, though,
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  Speaker 1: on this, and I'm not 100%, what's the deal with
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  Speaker 1: Golden at this point? Is he playing or is it true? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's expected to play. That's what I thought. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go under the assumption that he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be Uh, yeah. So it looks like he'll be
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  Speaker 1: good to go. So, you know, that makes it even
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  Speaker 1: more appealing because if he was out, then you'd see like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Watson and Tucker craft get huge boost in terms of ownership.
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  Speaker 1: There's just so many guys now that, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan love can potentially go to. So I guess the
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: main point for me is a lot of appealing captain
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  Speaker 1: options in, in this game. Like there's a ton, both
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks have the ceiling, both running backs, Jacobs and Hubbard
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  Speaker 1: have the ceiling to, to get there. multiple pass catchers
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  Speaker 1: on both sides that can get there, including Tucker Kraft
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  Speaker 1: as a tight end. So there's just a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different ways to go in the captain spot. And obviously
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: that means a lot of different plays in the flux.
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  Speaker 1: I assume ownership gets pretty spread out. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: slate where you don't need to worry about it all
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  Speaker 1: that much. Just looking at the captain, the highest captain
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: we have is right around 15%. That's beautiful. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's absolutely beautiful if that holds true. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it does just because there is so many options were
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  Speaker 1: so Jordan love as the highest own captain and probably right.
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  Speaker 1: And he has a path to get there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a very nice path for him to get there
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  Speaker 1: and it's spreading it out. He has a Christian Watson.
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  Speaker 1: He has Matthew golden. He has Tucker craft. And as
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  Speaker 1: you saw last game, he has Josh Jacobs in the,
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  Speaker 1: in the passing game. He threw the ball to him
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  Speaker 1: seven times last game. I mean, Jacobs was way more
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: effective in the passing game, opposed to the running game. So,
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  Speaker 1: For the grand scheme overview, it's a fun game, and
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  Speaker 1: there's a ton of different ways to go, and ownership
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  Speaker 1: is going to be spread out, and I'm excited for
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  Speaker 1: this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's usually not been the case. I guess the
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: way I would say a title is like all season long,
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: we've seen where people say in these showdown slates, well,
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  Speaker 2: we've had some unique shippers up top. We've seen a 500K, 250K,
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: a couple 200Ks where it's two-way chop just the other
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  Speaker 2: day and all of that. It's like for the most part,
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  Speaker 2: you've seen chalkier builds that are getting, you've seen a
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: lot of the big chops too. On this slate, I
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: don't know. We'll have to wait and see, but I
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: don't know if I remember us ever looking at the
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  Speaker 2: stone and saying there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 2: almost nine potential captains that are kind of spread out
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: where you're like, hey, it could be those. And then
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: to Hoop's point, the ownership is like, besides Jordan Love,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: not really going anywhere. And like he said, with Jordan Love,
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: and you'll get to your captains in a second, I'll
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: let you finish out your thoughts if you have anything
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: else to add. But the, you know, Savion Williams is
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: also there. So like Love does have a bunch of options,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: and with Jacobs back. The other side, we think it's
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: a little tighter, but then Darren Waller, the baller, is
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: catching the touchdown. Oh, wait, no, it's Tommy Tremble time,
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: and you see him coming in. But for the most part,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are hoping it's Tet
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: and Jalen Coker. The one thing I'll say about the
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Jalen Coker thing that this reminds me of, it won't
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: be the same by any means, but remember Parker Washington
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: let everybody down and then went to the international game
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: on the Sunday morning on the showdown slate? The only
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: way you could play him was that slate, and he
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: just crushed it. Well, I think people know that tonight,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: but obviously Jalen Coker, everybody loved him last week. And now,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you know, he's sitting here again at just 11-7 in
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: the captain. So we'll talk about that when we get there.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Anything else you want to add on this game firsthand?
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: You'll be there.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, two teams coming off really bad losses.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: The Panthers, I mean, a really, really bad loss. They
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: weren't in it from the jump. Buccaneers destroyed them. And
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: for the Packers, just a game that was back and forth,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: but LeFleur coached like a donkey. And just a couple
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: miscues where they lost the Lions. And I'm almost looking
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: at this as a must-win game for the Packers in
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: a very good division. Pretty hard schedule remaining as well.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: So both teams are going to come out with their
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: best effort. But I totally agree with you when it
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: comes to captains and how spread out it's going to be.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: But Jordan Love, he has so many ways to go,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: whereas Bryce Young doesn't. But the ownership seems pretty similar
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: for them at captain, or at least 10% Bryce Young.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: So that's where I'm initially at. started.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: And I think of all the guys in the double digits,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: or I guess Tet 8K or Golden 7 and above,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: because they're all getting pretty similar. Bryce Young is most
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: definitely my least favorite, just because I'm telling myself if
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: he has a massive game, it's going to just be
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Coker or Tet or both of them together, but hoping
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: one of them is the one that completely nukes the slate.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: So on a slate that it's pretty difficult for me
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: to ex-captains out or get away from Some of these
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: more popular ones.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: It's Bryce Young. That's the least favorite for me.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Speaking of, I wanted to bring up that last Monday
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: night game. One five with the wide receiver on the
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: on the Eagles side. I mean, how how crazy. But
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: it makes sense when you're that cheap as a wide
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: receiver one. Like I'm not going to shit on the
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: bill by any means. You could you could tell a story.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: And they did.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: The thing about it though, is I'm not shitting on
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the build ever. We always talk about when somebody wins,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: they win and it won for 200 K. So that's what,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: what stood out was that how much it won for
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: with that ownership, right? Like to me is that it
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: was also got away with it, but the stats were posted.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I think, um, what's Cody that for the ETR guy
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: that posts all the showdown showdown stuff, Cody main, he probably,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I think it was 0.6% since 2020 or something in
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: showdown that a one five wins a lottery.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I feel like it has to be like a cheap
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: captain like that. And because of the skill position, I
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was a great.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point. It's, it's so hard for a
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: one five to win. So anybody out there who's thinking like, Oh,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do that tonight, or I'm going to
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: do that all the time now because of it. It's
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: like a, it's a 0.5 basically in a hundred. It
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: just doesn't happen very often in lottery fields. Any of
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the back testing I've done a research and everything alongside
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of that, like you'll see Mark Lovin use it in
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: a 10 man or something, because that's a unique way
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to do it. No one else is going to do it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And if it gets there in a 10 man, by
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: all means, But when you go to the bigger stakes stuff,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: really like anything higher than 200, typically from what I've
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: seen those top players using it for, it's hard to
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: get it there because there's just so many combinations. And
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you see the train that was sitting right behind it
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: needed almost a perfect storm, but shout out to them
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: 200 K for that lineup. It was pretty awesome to see.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And you never know, right? That's the thing about these
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: showdown slates. And I think tonight's going to be very
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: similar to not saying one five, but you never know.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So I'll, I'll stay with you title on these captains.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: The one that first stood out to me and look,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: everything's baked in. We talk about this all the time,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: but the, I can also bake my own stuff in
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: like robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's like, I think
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs stands out and maybe he gets late steam,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: but the fact that he is right off of Jordan love,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: he's got the great matchup to go against. A lot
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: of what's priced in is like, look, we also believe
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the sports books. You've got the prop up. I don't
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: even think he has a 60 yard prop on the ground,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: or maybe it's like 78 with receiving. And who said
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: it earlier? Like he's getting receiving, he's getting everything, but like,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: they didn't stop using him last week. Like it was,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: there was no like just off the list, let's ease
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: them in or anything like that. So to me, I
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: think it's somewhat interesting that he's kind of just sitting
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: there at 10% and 13, two in the captain. So
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: give me your thoughts on him and then take us
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: through some of the others and how you want to
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: handle this. Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: He's the most likely to score in the game at
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: minus one 45, uh, could see a little late steam.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Like you're saying, I don't mind it at all. Uh,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: it leverages off the like Jordan love Watson golden, uh,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: A lot of the Packers are getting ownership. So if
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: he rushes to win, that lowers their chance to get there.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I think my favorite to the field is I think
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I prefer these Panthers a little more. And Chuba is
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: the one that I have quite a bit of interest in. Again,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I think he I think he moonwalks back. I think
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: people want to go mainly Panther or want to go
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: mainly Packers. If they go Panthers, it's probably Tet or Coker.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: And like if they get it done, it's three and
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: a half point dogs controlling the game. Like I think
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: that's a way that you can have a lot. If
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: there is less than five dupes, less than 10 dupes,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the running back on an underdog on the road team,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I think he has a lot of chance to get squeezed.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So Chuba is the one at nine K that I
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: have quite a bit of interest. He has the second
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: best prop to score on the slate at minus one 15.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: So I think he is my favorite. And then I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: going to say Tet. And then I'm going to say
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Christian Watson.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: And again, I don't know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I think Golden, Golden's looked like the wide receiver one
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: in the past two weeks. There's no doubt, but I
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: guess I am a little worried about not the, I'm
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: not worried about the injury, but the lack of practice
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: as much. I think Watson is the one that can
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: get going this week and maybe has more of the
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: downfield opportunity. Again, I have, I'm guessing, I totally do
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: not know. I think this is one of the harder
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: showdown slates to really pinpoint. And that's good when you're
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: making a lot of teams like I am. I'm playing
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: all these guys. Who am I not playing?
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm playing them all. Bryce Young's my
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: least favorite for sure.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to be underweight Jordan Love captain
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: as well, just because I think there's enough of these Goldens, Tets, Jacobs, Chubas,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: that they all have two plus touchdown upside individually. And
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: if they do that, I'd expect them to outscore quarterback,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: even if they threw three or four touchdowns mainly, since
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: they're not known for being runners. So I'm under on
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. I'm over on the skill position people. Tet, Chuba, Watson,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I think are my favorites. Then I'd go Josh Jacobs,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: and then it'd be Coke or Golden is how I'm
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: seeing it. But I'm building my teams right now, and
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I'm going to submit them, which I never do because
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not expecting any of this late stuff. So I'm
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: all ears, and I'm going to be listening as you
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: guys talk as well and making adjustments.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Taking an extra risk tonight. You know, he's feeling good
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: off the last night. So who, let me kick it
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: over to you. Cause the most interesting thing is obviously
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: to title's point is it's not often you get, we
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: see all these different teams on here, but it's not
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: often you get like the McMillan versus Coker decision and the,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: and the Watson and golden decision. Now I know the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: golden stuff comes with a little bit of, you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Q tag coming in and all that. But like, if
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he's out there, you got to kind of assume that,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: for now at least, and then go from there and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: still risk it. But it is hard for this slate
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: because of that. And you got Bryce Young versus Jordan. Look,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: could be either. We think it's a close game and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: back and forth. So how are you handling the captain
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: position tonight? What are your thoughts up top here?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: So I'll say this is a much easier slate if
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you're building multiple teams. Like if you're playing 150, it's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: much easier to determine what you're going to do because
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you're probably going to get exposure to all the main
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: players in this game. Like, like this is a slip
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: for me. If you're someone that usually plays like one
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: $ 20 lineup, I would want to go down and play
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: seven $ 3 lineups or something. I want different exposure. Like
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: this is really hard to pinpoint exactly what you want.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of different things could happen in this game.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of different things in terms of the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: way these teams score. They have quarterbacks that are very good,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: but they'll both run a little bit. You have two
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: running backs that can run and catch. You have multiple
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: pass catchers on both sides. A really good point that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: title brought up earlier, random tight ends on the Panther
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: side in Waller. I think it was title that brought
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that up. Waller, you might have Tambo, like Waller can score. Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Tambo brought Waller, Tremble, just so many random things. That
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: could happen in this game. You want to play a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: lot of lineups. So, you know, we're people that are
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: playing a lot of lineups. So then you're kind of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: going through and saying, who do I want to be
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: overweight on? Who am I OK if I'm underweight on?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: My favorites are by far the pass catchers for the Packers.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Like when you have a quarterback that is consistently just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: dropping back and trying to throw bombs, which is what
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love is trying to do very frequently throughout these games,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: been doing it all season. It's not going to stop now.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: that's ideal for fantasy. You want the guys on the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: receiving ends of those bombs and it's Christian Watson and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it's Matthew Golden. Those are my two favorite Christian Watson
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: for sure. I really like Watson up top. I think
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: he's a phenomenal play. And then with Golden, I think
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that the nice thing is he has that Q tag
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and I think the ownership comes down on him up
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: top and he's had some bad drops. Like I know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you know, our guy Nades has been all over Golden.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: He's had some very bad drops, but he's getting the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: opportunity though. And in DFS, it's opportunity, overproduction a lot
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: of times, like you want those opportunities. He's going to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: continue to get those opportunities down the field. So those
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: are my two favorite. I think, you know, we have
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden at like seven and a half, like seven ownership.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It's basically industry standard. I wouldn't be surprised if it's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: closer to five. And if that's the case, I really
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: like him up top. So those are my two. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: then after that, I am going to go to Jacobs.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Like you got the, you have the guy most likely
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to score a touchdown in this game. And also is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: coming off a game where he got seven targets in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the passing game. Like that's, that's huge. And I do
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, because he is
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: priced a little bit cheaper too. Like he's only 8,800.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I do think he could, he does have a chance
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to come up a little bit in ownership. So that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: is the one concerning thing, but it's not to a
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: point where none of these guys are going to get
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to a point where you have to change your approach
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: because of ownership. It just has to get spread out
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: with so many different options. You know, I do like
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love. just because so many different guys, he's got both.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: He's got the running back. He's got the wide receivers
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and he's got Tucker craft that he'll throw the ball to.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So if you play the love up top, I think
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I actually, if, if you are playing love up top,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I think the best move is to play them with
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: two pass catchers. Cause you almost need it. Like, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think you need to like set a hard
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and fast rule because like we just talked about anything
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: can happen in these showdowns. But if you are hand-building
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a Jordan love team, I'd prefer them with two pass
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: catchers or two, one pass catcher and Josh Jacobs. I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: want him with two of those four guys like in,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: or save down Williams. Let me add that in there
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: as well. Save on Williams is a great play too.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: So you have five different guys. I want two of
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: those five. If playing love plus.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Rule, you're talking about like you're putting Jacobs, Watson, golden
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Williams craft and saying at least two.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But again, I don't want to set like a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: hard and fast rule because anything can happen. If he
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: rushes one in, it goes out the, out the window
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: like that. That's not needed. So I, As we see
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: in the showdown, setting these hard rules, you can kind
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: of get screwed. So I don't necessarily say you have
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to do that, but that would be my preference if
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: building Jordan Love's teams. I want two pass catchers with him,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and one could be Josh Jacobs. So two of those five.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It is interesting, though, because it's easier to make the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: case for the Packers guys, but the Panthers guys are
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: getting quite a bit of ownership up top. We're showing Hubbard.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you know, we're showing four of the six highest tone
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: captains being Panthers guys. I do think it might balance
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: out and it could shuffle a little bit, but if
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: looking at the Panthers, my favorites by far, Ted McMillan,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: he's a, he's a stud, I think. So I'd like him,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I guess at the end of the day, I'm probably
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: going to be higher on the Packers guys. And I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: hope the ownership kind of stays where it's at with
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Watson being down there a little bit. And I think
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Golden will come down and I'd be fine with Tucker
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Kraft up there too. So, it's a slate where I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: think you want a lot of lineups because it is
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: hard to just say, I'm X-ing up this guy or
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get zero this guy because there's, in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: my estimation, maybe like 10 guys that could be the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: highest scoring guy on the slate. So you want a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: lot of lineups if you can do it tonight.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you this title and then I'll
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: give some final thoughts on it because I've got a
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: few different things here. But just to note it, I,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you know, I said it, you agreed with it right away.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So I think this one's for certain. Like we were
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: talking about captain steam tonight, which is kind of more
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: important for those. Like when you're playing a lot of captains,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: like most people are looking at these guys and say,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: no one really knows. So I'm spreading it out. I'll
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: talk more on that in a second with my process.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: But when you're saying, okay, like agreeing with me and
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I think we're right that Jacobs could steam up here.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. But then Love maybe stays the same.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I think he's kind of the one that stays the same.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I think any like Golden could come down slightly and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: add that to Watson. Like people like Watson. But don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: you think like it's going to be on the other
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: side that people feel a little bit safer with where
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you could see maybe McMillan or Coker just come up
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: a little bit because they're the underdog. plus no golden
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Q tag to worry about, even though he's playing. It's
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: like people will look at it that way. So where
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: do you see the steam coming here and any moonwalking?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I'm curious if you have thoughts on that. You're usually
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: pretty good at picking it out.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Bryce might moonwalk for the sense of, like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: it's either Tet or Coker if he gets there. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: do think Tet and Tet for sure, I think, steams
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: a bit. Coker probably stays about there. I think Chuba
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: comes back. Again, the underdog on the road running back.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I just think similar price tags, like Josh Jacobs is
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: 200 cheaper. He could be 15% or something. I do
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: think Love stays where he's at. And I do think
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Watson probably goes up to maybe even 11 or 12%.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: So I got Bryce Young moonwalking. I got Chuba moonwalking,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Tet Steam, Jacob Steam, Watson Steam a little bit.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the main ones, I think.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And the good news, like Hoop always talks about, like
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: this is going to be spread out. The Steam is
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: only taking them up a small number.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So you're going to get a ton of leverage. Yeah, 2-3%.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: That you want. But the reason I look at that
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and I spend a little bit more time maybe than
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: some others on it, maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong. Again,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I don't, this stuff matters nothing to me, even though
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: it's a great stat, nothing against you. I think it's awesome.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Like Carolina runs high this, Watson gets targeted a bunch
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: on that. We all know Christian Watts could have a
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: good game. That's kind of baked in there. But the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: reason I'm looking at these little things is because like Coker,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: for example, I just don't see where it's him. Like
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the reason I see the Tets team, and even when
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: you said Bryce Young comes back a bit, it's also correlated.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: If it's coming back on Bryce a little bit, 14-4, 14-1.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: You get a little bit of money. You get the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: underdog receiver, the opposite receiver of Watson and those guys,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the big boy over there. That could be the thing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: But everybody just wanted Coker last week. He's 11-7. He'll
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: at least set you up in a little bit of
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: a different zone. So he's one that stood out to me. Jacobs,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I'm with you guys on the Watson, not necessarily. because
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: of that stat, but I think it is somewhat interesting.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: But for me, there's not much you can do at captain,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: even with a full portfolio, the way I'm going to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: be looking to get different is through roster construction. Because
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: if I only have, if I have the same, you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: if Watson steams to 10 and I end up with
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: 12 and thought I was getting overweight, I'm technically still
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: 2% overweight because I'm shifting it to other captains, but
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that there's a lot of bad Watson lineups
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and that mine are all built in a way that's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: going to be a way that you could actually ship
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: with less unique, more uniques, less dupes, things like that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Um, I'm not gonna be able to get
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: that different that way, but I think we will see
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: more people on the, um, the Packers side here because
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of the home favorite, the team total, all those factors.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And even if you remove golden, people are making a
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: case for craft. You look at the kickers and the
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: D's they're both higher owned than the Panthers. That just
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: tells me more four twos. And then even possibly, uh,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: some five ones, not like that's ever a big number,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: but I do think because it's a little, I feel
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: like it's actually more of a tight target tree outside
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: of the argument we made about Waller and Tremble. It
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: kind of is like Bryce, Tet, Coker, or somehow it's Hubbard.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: But also if it's a, you know, if it's not
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: a Hubbard game, then you don't even need him in
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the mix like Josh Jacobs is on the other side.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: So when you're building those lineups, I think you could
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: do two fours. You could do like a Watson, Love,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: for Panthers, Watson and the captain. You can do some four, two, five,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: one Panthers using Jacobs for the majority play, hoping that
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: it's a Jacobs on the ground, all him and not
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: those receivers and have to pick from it. So I'm
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: really going to be focused a lot more tonight on
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: roster construction, thinking about what the field's up to and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: how we can exploit that more than trying to like
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: tommy trembles the dream captain tonight to get you out
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: of the you're the bottom of the board like i
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: don't think anybody has that in their bag or can
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: tell you that for this slate so hopefully that was
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: helpful we'll move on though hoop we'll just go to
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks in the flex we're still seeing love a
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: ton obviously and still we're actually seeing flex leverage like
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you can't get enough of them in there which kind
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of speaks to the story of like when you're not
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: using them up top he makes sense there you don't
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: see the same thing fully on Bryce Young on the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: other side, which leads into some different conversations. Where are
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: you at here on these quarterbacks in the flex spots?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's like you definitely want the quarterbacks
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to talk about it all the time. They get to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: touch the ball more than any other position, all that
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. If you're playing... you know, Christian Watson
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: or Golden up top, you're probably going to want Love
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in the flex for playing Tet or Coker up top.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You're going to want Bryce Young in the flex, that
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. But I think the important part, like
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you said, it's like, it's not, it's more about like
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the roster construction tonight than anything. And that's always the case.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I think even more so today that
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: that should be making your flex decisions, how your lineups
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: correlate and that sort of thing. So yeah, I mean,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: there's nothing really to add to either of the quarterbacks,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: strong flex plays for both.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Title, do you got anything to add on those guys
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: or any other ways you're thinking about using them? Like
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I said, I mentioned the two fours earlier. I like
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: those for both sides, like Jess Price in the flex
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: with one of his dudes up top and a bunch
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: of Packers or the other side, Jess Golden or Jess
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Watson up top with Love in the flex and then
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: using four Panthers, things like that. Is there anything else
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you're seeing here?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Not really.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Like when I'm playing Love, even in the flex, I
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: still want, even if I don't have one of his
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: pass catchers at captain, I still probably want at least
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: one of his receivers in in the flex. Um, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: then Bryce young, probably the same, but I guess not
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: as strong, but yeah, I mean, you can have a
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Bryce young in the flex and still have chew, but
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: captain then use tremble or Waller. He doesn't have to
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: be necessarily cocker or Tet, but it is just so
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: much more condensed over there.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Cause the wide receiver three is a lot worse. Yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I was trying to look to, as we segue into
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: running back who I'll go to you, but, uh, you
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: brought this up for one team, I think it was
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the saints a couple of weeks ago, uh, And just
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: looking back at, you know, the, you know, someone that
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I think was new ones in the chat was talking
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: about our DVP rankings and looking at how the Panthers
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: have got crushed on the ground. And so obviously that
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: helps Jacobs and et cetera, et cetera. But if you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: go back and look like, I'm just trying to see here,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: what was it? So it was Swift and Menungai. It
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: was Bijan.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Again, that was a 34 to three game.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: The Panthers.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Crushed them but then you had uh Gibbs you had
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: maybe it's Barkley you had Bucky Irving last week I
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: don't know what you think about this but um where
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: do you sit out here with the Jacobs conversation and
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: then take us into Hubbard on the other side and
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: any of the you know peer strongs of the world
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: that type of thing.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's always tough with the DVP especially you know
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: six seven weeks into the season because a couple matchups
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: or if you play three of the five best running
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: backs in the league it's going to look like way
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: more worse than it really is and I always say
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: with this sort of thing, you can't get super picky
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: here on a showdown slate because there's just not an option.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You almost have to throw a lot of that stuff
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: out of the window when considering plays. For this slate,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: at the running back position, it is difficult because you've
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: got Hubbard, you have Jacobs. Whenever there's a slate that's
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: really strong with all these position players, we're going to
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: be lacking value. That is obviously the case today. The
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: value of you have to expand out how comfortable you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: are with these value plays. You have to make some
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: concessions because there's just not going to be a lot
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: of solid value on the slate. We know Hubbard's solid play.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: We know Jacob's solid play. And honestly, both their prices
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: are very fair for flux. Like Hubbard at 9K and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Jacob's 88. They're both fair plays. But then you start
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to look at some of these secondary plays. Marshawn Lloyd, Trevor, ETN,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: probably have to include these guys in your player pool
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: tonight just because we don't have a lot of strong options.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Lloyd got six carries and two targets. His workload is
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: probably going to continue to get reduced as Josh Jacobs
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: gets bumped up. So it is hard to play these guys,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: but it's also hard to fully take them out of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: your player pool if you're building multiple lineups. So I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: would just probably cap it with some of these guys.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: The value on the slate is not going to be
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: overly excited. That's why you're going to see, I think,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of ownership go to guys like, that we'll
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: talk about next, like Savion Williams. Looks like a very
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: solid play. I think his ownership is going to come
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: up because he's getting a lot of work. He's in
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a good offense here. So you have to get, if
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: you're building a lot of teams, you're just going to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: have to include like the Lloyds and the ETNs of
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the world and just hope they do something. Or it's
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a slate where Um, you just need a cheap guy
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to make everything else work. And even if they get
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: like three fantasy points, it all works out. So not
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: exciting stuff here, but they're probably a necessary evil on
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the slate.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to figure out here too. Title
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: like the Pierre strong Marshall. Like, I guess like the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: only thing I'm looking at is because the values to
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Hoops point it's Williams for sure. And then it's probably,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: you know, Tommy Tremble, John Mechie, uh, that's it. Like there,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? After that, I mean, you
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: got to go up. I'm not counting these 5k kickers
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that because they're going to be popular too.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Like you'll see even a $ 4, 800 Fitzgerald and a 5k
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: smack tonight. We'll get some love just because they're, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it's Savion Williams or them. And then after that, I
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: don't know how much people love Tommy Tremble, you know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: who else did I say up there? Pierre Strong and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: guys like that. So is there anything outside of Hubbard
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and Jacobs? You can add commentary on them, but outside
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: of those guys, what else are you thinking here?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: If anything, Yeah, Marshawn Lloyd's one of my favorite flex plays,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: for sure. Short week, too, with Jacobs coming back. He
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: played 35% of snaps last week. 18 rushing prop, coin
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: flip over and on the under. Not like Josh Jacobs
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: was that efficient, especially early in the game. Later in
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the game, he did. But yeah, I mean, nowadays, these
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: running backs, unless you're Jameer Gibbs and stuff, you still
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: rotate some as favorites at home. He might get some
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: goal line work, like Jordan said as well. So I
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: would definitely keep Marshawn in the pool, I think his
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: ownership's too low. And then what if Marshawn Lloyd does
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: get a touchdown or something like that? Roster construction-wise, game theory,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: all of that, you can play Josh Jacobs and Marshawn
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Lloyd together. Then you tell yourself Packers to get up early.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: They stay up.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: And then I like Tett and Coker and Bryce Young
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: more because you think they have to chuck it, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I don't like Chuba as much. So, yeah, when we're
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: struggling to get value and looking at low-owned plays, Marshawn
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Lloyd's one of my favorites today.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I really like that call actually. And then the reason
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I like it so much is because you're talking me
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: through it. And then I go to the stone, get
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: some ideas and look at it. And that is pretty great.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Cause what you think about there is like, okay, what
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I talked about earlier with Jacobs, well, what are we seeing?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Jacobs looks good at the captain or at least equal to,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: and if you give him a little bit of love
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: for like a bigger Jacobs game, then obviously that's taking
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: away from captain optimal of love and other guys. So
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you kind of like would bump him in your head
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: and say, that's what it would be. And I like
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: them up top, but we actually have negative flex leverage
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: on Jacobs and And we have positive flex leverage on Lloyd,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: which obviously correlates, but sometimes it's nice to see it
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: with the data and the simulations to actually back it
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and say, okay, this puts me in this spot to
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: make me think about this. And then what does that
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: do for the rest of your roster? Even for those
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: out there that are hand-building or using the Stone 2.0
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: at ShipItNation.com to do it themselves that way, this is
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a spot where I can see doing that. And also...
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: he's less than Savion. I know the whole chat saving it. Like,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: first of all, shout out to our guy, Avery, always
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: here supporting, you know, he's obviously watched the show for
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: long enough to know the one-liners. He said, helps you
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: save you on some salary, save you on some salary.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I like that one quite a bit. Actually, Avery, that's
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a good one. Very witty, but it's like, everybody knows
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: that he's at 20 already and that's going to go up.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: There's no sad.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: It was just a couple of weeks ago when no,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: he was like 5% owned and now everyone loves my
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: boy Savion.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: It's sad times.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: You know what, though? Sturdivant has won people some money
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: in showdown this season. I know that one of the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: big time unique shippers up top or were like really
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: low duped was with Sturdivant. Obviously, there's injuries and stuff then,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: but I'm just noting it. Sabian's not a secret tonight
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: on this slate. So I really like that Lloyd call.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: It flips it. The data. um, runs out with it
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and solid. And then it's, you know, a little bit cheaper.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Any Williams lineup could be Lloyd. Obviously you want to
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: think about what lineup you're doing that too. Cause if
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: it's already got Jacobs or Jacobs, a captain, I guess
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you could have a Jacobs captain with, um, you know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Lloyd in the flex. We've seen the B John B John,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Brian Robinson games that we've seen and all that stuff
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: this season. So, um, You never know, but yeah, in
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: on that. Love that call quite a bit. Hoop, let's
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: go to wide receiver. We talked about McMillan. We talked
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: about Watson. Obviously, you're extremely high on Watson. I think
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: all of us are for good reason, but you've got Coker.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: You've got Golden. We talked about Williams. Mechie, by the way,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: on the other side. He's a guy that wasn't... Wasn't
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: he the guy just stealing it from... coker last week
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: or from uh every time we were hoping that somebody
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: else would actually get a catch it's like maybe they're
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: trying to throw to mechi so i don't know what
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: his final stats finished with it wasn't anything crazy i
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: don't think but just to note it nobody talking about
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: him and he's the value on the opposite side hoop
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: so what do you got at wide receiver.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Man that panthers offense was was buns man there's no
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: other way to put it that was that was bad
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that was bad uh yeah i mean it's actually honestly
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: probably pretty boring uh conversation here to talk about these
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: wide receivers because the guys are just the guys I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: mean the Packers guys are it's clear it's Watson it's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Golden it's Savion Williams I love all three the concern
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you guys already pointed out is you know Savion Williams
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: is the obvious value play on the slate and there's
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: only one way the ownership's going and that is up
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: hopefully it stays in check because I do really like
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: him as a play I mean he's involved in their
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: offense they're There's plays to get him the ball. He's
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the third wide receiver, and you can see there's plays
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: where it's his number, is the number one option. And
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: he's had a couple rush attempts, and I think that
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: continues on. So I think he's a really good play.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: The concern, though, is obviously the ownership going up. If
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't, to me, 20%. If it stays at 20%,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it's probably too low for Sabian Williams. I hope it
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: stays there. On the Panther side, Tett, Coker, great plays.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, you keep Mechie in there as well.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: And I will say, Bo Melton is always involved in
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the Packers offense. Like he's always out there. So I
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: don't mind him and Jordan Love captain teams. It would
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: be probably specific to that. Like if Jordan Love captain teams,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Bo Melton, a little bit of exposure, I think is fine. And,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like whenever you have a Packers stack
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: and you see them throw the ball on the main slate,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: throw the ball to Melton, you're pissed because obviously you
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: can't play Melton on the main slate at all. But
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it just seems like he's always, and he's been around,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: it seems like forever. And they just keep getting him involved.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So I don't mind keeping him in the player pool
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: at $ 1, 000, but there's nothing crazy here. I mean, the
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: plays are just the plays.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. I don't know if this is, I mean,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's really accurate. I'm looking at some stuff here, title,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: but Bo Melton. has one game above five DraftKings points.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: This year?
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, his snaps have gone down ever since
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: week six when Savion played 53%. Melton only played 24.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: The week prior, he played 49. Only 13 snaps last week, 19%.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: But to Hoop's point, I mean, he had five points,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: but he almost had five points in one catch last week.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love threw him like a 45-yard streak route, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: he dropped it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Defender made an okay play, but.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: No, a streak was one of his undies. Cause it
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: was a horrible, horrible mess.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I would have liked it a hell of a lot
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: more if this was the case, right? If you get no,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's great, but you know, the interesting
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: thing is golden is playing and Savion is still getting,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you know, again, like whoops, that's at 20 ish right now.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you think title, if it goes
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: up higher than that, it does feel like it will, but, um,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: what else do you have here? Anything else or anything? Like,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I guess Metchie got as many targets as Coker did
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: last week. But another thing that's crazy, I did this
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: with Parker Washington the next week he came out and crushed.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I get it. But like, I liked Coker here. And
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: then I don't care about this old stuff. Anyway, I'm
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: just noting it. Like we just give everybody the rain,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: like put the crown on them. It's like, okay, week one,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: he got 36 points. Every other week has been less
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: than 15. Last year he had one game over 16
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: points and it was a 31 point outbreak. Otherwise he's
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: not coming out and just crushing slates. Like it's like
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: everyone's all with the coke heads and all this stuff
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and they get all fired up.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Like he's not, that's me.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're talking to the one right there.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: You're talking to the coke head. I'll give you a little,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I'll give him a little bullshit. Week three, he gets hurt.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Week four, he doesn't play. Week five, he's on a buy.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Week six, not great. And then week seven, they get
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: blown up. They get the door, their doors blown off
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: them right away. So it's hard to even look at
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: anything in that game. Trevor ETN is playing a bunch
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: of snaps and, all of that. So hasn't been the
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: best for him, but yeah, injury then didn't play the
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: next game. Then by week, get the blows.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go that far.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not, I gotta save, save that for when I
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: actually really feel it, but I mean, okay. And he's
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: also getting ownership like 5% versus 34 or whatever. I, yeah,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I always, anyone that follows me knows I always love
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Jalen Coker. The nice thing too, is anyone shocked if
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: he's the highest score on the slate today?
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: And he's 7,800. 10-94, 9K Chuba, 96, 10K. You can
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: put him at captain and put Jordan Love at captain,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: make a team, put Coker there. Obviously, make sure the
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: team makes sense. It's just a lot more easy to
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: leave money with them.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: One other thing I wanted to point out that goes
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to what you were kind of saying there, though. It's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: very rare in the NFL for these offenses to just
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: go completely dust, like back-to-back weeks. When they have a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: bad week, they typically– bounce back like the next week
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and look productive. It's very rare for them to play
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that bad two weeks in a row.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: The next week just goes up. You said I I'm
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: with you. I, I loved Bryce young, Ted Coker last
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: week with the run back like this. Yeah. Like the spot.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: And I think you said it earlier too, title, but
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: if McMillan steaming, I will say this and I'll let
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: you keep rolling is I, I prefer Coker up top.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's have the Parker Washington bounce back
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: or let's not do it as much. You know what
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I mean? Cause I want to kind of get it
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: or not. Obviously he can just catch balls and be
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a flex play and it's, it's fine. You can do that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's getting a lot more ownership there.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to get much up at
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: the top and he gives you a unique roster and
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: kind of leverages everything that's going on around him. Like Ted,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: bryce the other side where people are on watson or
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: on on jordan love etc etc so yeah i've got
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: interest but more up top keep going didn't you.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Have some good you had some good coker one-liners last
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: year right did we got those this year's about those.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Are mayo's man okay it's a jalen sniffer the coker
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: heads and all these other different things like there's there's
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: always stuff somebody said in here too but yeah if
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you know, titles guys are always these guys, you know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson, Parker Washington, Jalen Coker. He's got a pretty
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: good track record on them having some of these big games.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's a sign for tonight. We want some
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: more coconut, coconut life, Coker.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I try and be early on guys that I believe
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: it hasn't been the best from this year, but I mean,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: week one is all you needed.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Some people could play them every week and won all
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: the money week one. I wish this is just a slate.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I like who nailed it.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: If you play $ 60 usually, and you do $ 10 single
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: entry and you make three teams, 25, I would do $ 3. 20
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: entry max. Marshawn Lloyd's one of my biggest stands in
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: the flex today, but I'm really struggling. Ownership seems pretty efficient,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: but the good thing is it's spread out so much
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: that you can be around the field with all of
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: them and people just make so many bad lineups. I
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: think it's a slate, to be honest, that you're doing
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: it wrong if you're just way overboard on three captains
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: and then you're fading the four other 10% owned ones.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Unless you just really think you know how the game's
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: going to go. And even the game goes how you
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: think it's going to go. There's enough options where maybe
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: it's just the wrong guys you're choosing. So my favorite
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: is definitely Christian Watson, though, at the receiver position. Savion, yeah,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: he's probably going to get steam. I'm going to play him.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: The snaps only increase. He's very involved. I like Tet
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: more than Coker today, though, if choosing. But, yeah, I
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: have to play some Mechie, some Bryson, Tremaine. Those are
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: the guys that aren't getting any looks, but I like
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Mechie more than Tremaine for sure. I won't have too
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: much Tremaine, but.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Tremaine, man, this guy could get in the mix tonight.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: What's his, what's he been doing?
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no Tremaine. He's out there. So I was just walking.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Around the sidelines, just chilling, but he's out. He's been
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: out there. We've seen him before. He's actually got a
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: 12 point game this season.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Was it week four when Coker was out?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Week three.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Week three.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, that was when Coker got hurt and then left.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, yeah, it's, he's out there even
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: when they're fully healthy. So let's just say that week six,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: when everything was fine, he played 25 snaps.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: So.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Anyone that's going to be out there today, I have
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: to have some interest.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: New ones, I'm stealing this for a tweet later tonight
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: when Coker's going up and it's going to be Cokeheads
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: greater than Cheeseheads. Let's go. And we get that out there.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: So thank you for the content. I appreciate you, man.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: But no, good one by you as well. I like
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: that call. Like you said, it's mixing these guys around.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: It's nothing too crazy. But the most interesting thing to
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: me is we know Williams is already at an ownership
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: and going to steam and he's at it for good reason.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: And we get why. That's all baked in. That's why
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: it's there. But now I feel a little bit better about,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you know, matchy coker up top matchy in the flex
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: tremaine in the flex you know getting marshall lloyd from
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: the previous position into the flex and different ways that
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: i can work around savion williams and then just watch
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: him dust me later on but if he's going to
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: really be 20 plus um i i think i'll be
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: underweight i have to wait and see my final run
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: looks like but i'm just imagining it that way because
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: so many different ways that you can build and some
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: good call-outs by you guys here, just thinking it in
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: different ways for how we're building. So anything else, whoop,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: you want to add at a wide receiver here?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: No, I think we're good.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: All right. Take us into the other pass catchers. Tucker
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: craft certainly looks solid, you know, up top in the flex.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I know people are using a multiple ways tonight. He's 11,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: one up top. We talked about captains already, but at 7,400 he's,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: in the flex he's 400 less than um coker and
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: he's a thousand less than golden you know 1400 less
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: than watson how you handling tucker craft and the rest
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: of the tight end options on the slate.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean like tucker craft a lot good with
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: him up top you know i think he's a strong
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: option um ownership whatever i mean it is what it
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: is i think he's fine The Panthers use a lot
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: of different tight ends, uh, Waller, Tremble, Evans. I think
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: they're all, uh, in play for, uh, Bryce Young captain teams.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I think they're a good fit there. If you want
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to pair one of them with one of the wide
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: receivers with, um, McMillan or, or Coker, you can kind
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: of do it, uh, that way. Um, Johnnie Smith, he
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: was out there. I don't know if he did anything.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Let me verify that. I know he had at least
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: one target.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Love missed him on that wheel route that he would
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: still be running.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Oh, he was standing there wide open with
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: his hands, and he totally whipped on it.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Zoned into the right side of the field.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Come on, dude. You get progressions. That was the play.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: So he's out there running routes, and he is cheap, $ 1, 200.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Good for Jordan Love captain teams, I think. So a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys like the Panthers guys and then
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Johnny Smith, good for their correlating quarterback, captain teams and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Tucker craft.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: All formats.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you got to add here? Title? We
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: talked earlier about Darren Waller, a little bit tremble on
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the other side, trembles 2,600. So, you know, at least
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: somewhat interesting there, I guess he obviously, you know, he
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: gets in the mix. We know that much about him,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: but what are you thinking here at the tight end position?
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I think Waller is my favorite at ownership just because
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: he's the highest leverage guy when they get in the
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: red zone. He can be one for five, but with
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: the touchdown and I'll take that honestly like this.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: So other than that, yeah, I like, I like craft.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: He's fine. Tremble's fine. I'll have some John who's a
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Mitchell Evans. Those are just large field. You're playing a
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: bunch of teams to be unique, but Waller at ownership is,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: is my favorite.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Man, Tremble don't mess around, dude. This guy got 21, 5, 7, 6.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: You go back to last season, you got 6, 13, 5, 5, 6.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Like these 8, 15 again. Like this guy's just stealing
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: everything all the time. It's just touchdowns. He just robs
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: them in the end zone. It's crazy. I like the initials,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: double T. So maybe Tommy Tremble's the guy tonight. But
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I think what you said at ownership, Waller, you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: wall or the baller, we make fun of it or whatever,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: but there's also games where he's got multiple touchdowns and
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: things like that. So if we're looking for opportunity, at
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: least it's, I don't, I just don't, he's 2000 less
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: than craft. He's right there with the kickers. Um, he's
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: just above some of the other spots that people are
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: playing on the slate. So I think there's, you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: a value to go there and just try and get
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit unique that way. He looks like he'll
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: be 10 to 15% owned in the flex tonight. And
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: it's about equal and we've got some good uh flex
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: leverage on him on the stone as well just looking
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: at it from that perspective craft obviously everyone's on looks
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: good but you know i think yeah tremble waller craft
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: mainly the guys that i'm interested in regardless of who's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: up top you can still use these guys just to
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: catch passes so hoop i'll kick it to you the
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: um kickers and d somebody said earlier i mean i
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: guess title i'll go to you first i was gonna
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: go to hoop but if you go to the game
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: tonight and get this how's that.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Feel It'd feel terrible. Trey Smack has been dog shit.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: With all that being said, I think LeFleur is going to,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, cause he made a really, really questionable, I'm
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: going to say bad decision to early in the game
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: to go for like fourth and four. I think like
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: his butt's going to pucker a little bit on some
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: of these questionable in-between calls today. And especially because yeah,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Trey Smack's still on the team. Like they have confidence
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that I don't know if they have confidence. They just,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: they don't want to get rid of them yet, but
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I'm more worried that, that LeFleur in questionable decisions is
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: going to take the conservative route, which is a benefit
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: for Trace Mack today.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: I'm going to play the defenses. They're low owned. Yeah,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: so I like defenses more than the field.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to find ways to get different because
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: there's so much– like the value is tough, like we
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: keep talking about on the slate. So we're showing 8% Panthers,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: 16% Packers, both lower owned than their own respective kickers.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: If Fitzgerald's only going to be 15%, though, I mean,
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I'll say I'm overweight him too. Any kicker at 15%.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: It's fine.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: It looks like a nice night at Lambeau, 60 degrees
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: or whatever, no precipitation.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think to be honest, maybe overweight on
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: all of these four.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that's another Savion thing too, right? They're
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: all right there.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: You want them to outscore Savion exactly like you're right.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: That's how you eliminate. That's how you don't see a $ 3, 000
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: winner today is if these out, they outscore Savion.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: We need to, we need to handle that one for sure.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Like somebody said, like it's possible.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I looked it up. The special teams coach commented on it.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: He didn't really hold back. So it doesn't sound like
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: they're very happy. And obviously for good reason, you have
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: one job. It's go out there and make these kicks,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: but still sounds like they've got confidence in them to
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: put them back out there tonight. Like you said, where
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: are you sitting tonight at the game?
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Right behind Packers bench, like four rows back. I got
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: good seats.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: You'll be checking in on LeFleur. So he's up in
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: there or what?
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I was heard from the seats that I could talk
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: to the players and talk to LeFleur, but I don't
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: want to get kicked out.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: That would be bad news.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: That would be bad news.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I'd be losing whoever gave me the seats. Because, yeah,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Packers are strict now. If you get kicked out, you
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: pretty much lose your season tickets. So, yeah, that would
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: not be– that can't happen.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Can't be doing that doesn't seem like a very title
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: town thing no no bring out anyone in the ship
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: at nation crew i'm like yeah title over here that
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: ain't happening hey marley you know you have a few.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Big marley would be the favorite for sure yeah.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Those are my boys though i love that shit it's
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: all good we were just out in vegas with them
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: having a good time so Somebody mentioned we were down
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: there for the big guy event and you'll RIP the
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: big guy in the sky. But Oracle says the big
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: guy would never be scared to play tremble on Halloween.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Saying that now.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: So I like that, man. Great call out there. Appreciate it.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: All right. Hoop, anything you wanted to add on Ryan Fitzgerald,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Trey smack, the Packers or the Panthers?
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: He likes the kickers. He doesn't like.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't have much interest in the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: defenses here. I mean, it is, I will say the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: one thing for the defense is like, they haven't been
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: popping up as much this year.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: And they're probably due to do something big on the showdown.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: So that's the one case, I think, for them. But
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: in terms of the kickers, I like Fitzgerald over the
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: Packers guy. I mean, Fitzgerald is– let's see. He hasn't
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: missed a field goal yet this year. That's important.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: And the other guy, Trey, I mean, one more missed
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: kick and they're going to smack his ass out of town. So,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, we– Let's go.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: It was worse.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: But it made sense.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: So I like it. It's just, it's not as natural
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: for Hoopster. So it's like, gotta be premeditated. And the
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: delivery is always going to be a little rough, but
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: you know, when I can get it all the way out,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: that's all, that's all that matters. So one more miss
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and Trey is going to be, yeah, the box is
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: looking good for Fitzgerald. I mean, he hasn't missed, a
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: field goal yet this year, eight, 10, 15, nine, 10,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: obviously last week was a disaster, not his fault. They
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: got their ass absolutely kicked. And then, um, you know,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: the Packers guy, Trey is one, one kick before they, uh,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: one more miss before they smack his ass out of town. So, uh,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a little less of him. I prefer Fitzpatrick. I mean,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: that's in your head though, as a kicker, it's like
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: you get it, you're going to get a little nervous
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: knowing if I miss one more 40 yarder, I'm done.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Like he's definitely done. So, um, I prefer Fitzpatrick over Mr. Smack.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Are you on these Ds much or what?
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: No, no, never on the D.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Panthers could be under 10%.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Stay away from the D. Yeah, I get it. They're
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: cheap and you might need some value, but less D.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: He's never on it. You don't even got to ask him.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I will say, though, the case is they're due to–
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: when's the last time you needed a defense? I mean,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: it's been a while. I don't know.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: The last time you said when's the last time you
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: need someone, it was when's the last time you needed
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Tony Pollard. Yep. I did back you up in the chat.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: We have the new shows made now, and I grabbed
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: the clip where you could just screenshot it. I said
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: he actually asked the question. He didn't say you're.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Not going to– I was just proposing a question. I
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: was looking for the answer. I didn't answer the question.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I was asking the question. When's the last time? right?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. The chatter and hoops say, no, we
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: ain't never riding the D's and they couldn't get away
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: with anything emoji central in there now. So you can't
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: talk about football these days without anything going the wrong
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: way on here. But, um, FanDuel, Hoop, let's talk about
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: it here. Quick look at it, just what you're seeing. Obviously,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: some big boosts right away to the quarterbacks. Bryce Young
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: goes up from 14-4 captain on DraftKings to almost 18,000
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel in the MVP. You see a big boost
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: on Hubbard. Obviously, you have 10K more to work with,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: but Jacobs is cheaper now. on FanDuel than he is
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: on DraftKings.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely the one thing that stands out. Jacobs
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: at 8,600 where running backs, the scoring system fits running
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: backs better, 8,600 for him. That means the ownership will
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: probably follow. but that's fine. That's a good price tag.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: You know, Matthew Golden has a somewhat uncomfortable price tag
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: at 10 K. I mean, it's kind of not sticker shock,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: but as soon as you get to the five digits,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's, it looks, it looks big, but it
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: makes me like him a little bit more over there,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because he's right. You know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: he's priced above tap McMillan. He's right there with Christian Watson.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: He's up there. So I still like him there. Tucker
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: craft at 72 fair price tag, checking out the value. Yeah,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: it's Savion Williams, 3,400. So 3,400, he's going to be very,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: very popular. He's going to be popular on DK, but
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: he's going to be even more popular on FanDuel. 3,400,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: super cheap for him.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're going to put the Coors up
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: after title, and you do the cash version of this,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: but is it just like love up top, Jacobs?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I just put it up. Yeah, I mean, it could be.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: You're pretty much playing a 2v2. I don't want to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: give it away for our premium members. And, yeah, I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: think Lou's right. Seattle against the Chiefs on Sunday night, defense-wise,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: on the winner. Mahomes scored three points.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I thought that shout out to Lou, by the way,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: that's our full time social media manager. So we appreciate
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Lou and all he does over for the nation. But
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I thought he was saying about a hoop saying last
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Sunday about saying when the last.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Time maybe he was saying both. I think he might,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: he said, might've said both, but I think.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: He's on both. He knew he got both sides covered. So,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: all right. Interesting on that. The one thing that stood
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: out to me though, when you said it, like how
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: did you, you already kind of said it, but how
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: does anyone play Matthew Golden when Watson is 200 bucks more? Like,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: it's $ 200.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: But if Golden can easily– if he could catch the ball.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just got to catch it. Maybe Nades will
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: get down to the stadium early and give him a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: pep talk. Like, let him know I'm your number one fan, man.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I was pumping you last year when you sucked ass
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: and did nothing. Like, now you're doing something that just
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: cuts the ball for us. Like, that's what we need.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: We need a Nades, Matthew Golden pep talk. Get him
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: back on track.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: He was pumping him last year when he was sucking ass.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: The best part is, Nades knows I absolutely love him.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I love Nades like a brother. I did that today, actually. Nades,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I actually did cut my lawn today. That's why me
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: and Nades flow so well. He knew there was a chance.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Is it the final one?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: No, because the leaves have been dropping like crazy. So
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I've just been kind of mowing and I got a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: new lawnmower. I don't know if I told you guys,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I got a new lawnmower at the beginning of this
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: season and the bag's bigger. So it handles more leaves.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: So I have the big billy goat thing that really
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: is the lawn vacuum. But now the lawnmower is doing
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: a sufficient job with the leaves. So I haven't had
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to get the big billy goat out yet.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Nice. I like it. I was just thinking about the song.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's the final count. Hoop got the, it's
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: the final cut down. He's got his headphones on, just
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: jamming with his big mower going through and having the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: time out there, man. You got to love it. But
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: the chat knows the inside jokes, so we appreciate it.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: My guy knows what's up. I used to do it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, so I'm a day behind now. I've shifted
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: to Thursdays.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Day late and a dollar short. Title, you're going to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the game. I know we got to get out of here.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Any final thoughts from you, my friend, before you head out?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's a great game in the sense
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: of a lot of, I mean, no one's projecting over
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: 16% at captain. Anytime you get that should be a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: good one. Only three and a half point favorites. And yeah,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: any game that I'm in attendance to, I only can
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: go to either Thursday night, Monday night, and then maybe
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Sunday night. Usually not even that. So I've been blessed.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: The Cardinals are so bad. They have no primetime games.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to be in town for this.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: So I'm pumped. It's been since 2020 since I've been
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: to Lambeau.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: So title heading title town headed to title town.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: The day after the Brewers win the world.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be good.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Pretty good. You know, they say good things come in threes, though. So, hey,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: maybe this slate's yours.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Shipper World Series and the game.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm in the streets.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Hoop, final thoughts from you, my friend, before we get
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: out of here?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy, just Google it real quick. This thing's an
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: absolute beast, and I'll get a video out there when
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I bust it out. But, I mean, it literally sticks, leaves,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: wood chips, whatever you need. This thing sucks up and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: chops it so fine. It's a phenomenal product. Google it,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: and I'll get some videos up when I bust it
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: out this year. In terms of this game, though, it's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: a great one. Like you talked about, tons of different
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: ways to go. Great for fantasy games. Things should be
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: spread out up top. A lot of viable options, a
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: lot of ways this can go. Good luck to everyone.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: And let's start, what are we at? Week eight, yes.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Look at that thing, man. It is phenomenal. Mine might be, okay, yeah,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the bag on there. So I got
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: the bag on this thing. It is so powerful. It
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: literally sucks up anything on your lawn. It'll get the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: bigger sticks too, like the sticks that might be more girthy.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: like the girthier sticks, like it'll, it'll suck that out too.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: And it has like a, a side component where if this,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: if it's too big to get chopped up, you can
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: put it in the side thing and it chops it up.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: So the bigger sticks go on the side.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: It's, Buddy's talking about big, girthy sticks and sucking everything inside. Like, oh, man,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: we got to get the hell out of here. Yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: All right. We appreciate you guys. Make sure to hit
• 1:04:50
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• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow with the cash game countdown. We've
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: got all the other stuff coming up for you guys
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: this weekend. Saturday, myself and Blickle for Leverage Lane. And
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: then Sunday, this crew will be right back here 9 a.m.
• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: And again, shout out to our girl, Nika, not only
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: winning 100K, phenomenal, but then going above and beyond, really, truly.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Just so generous, giving back $ 3, 000
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: to the community that the community will be playing for
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: this week. So congrats again to Nika. Thank you guys
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: so much for watching. For Hoop, for Tidal, for myself, ToeTag,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: and Tambo, good luck in your contest this week. Let's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: ship it.