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From Frustration to Functional | a conversation with fashion coach Kelly Snyder · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hi friends, welcome to Simply Wholehearted.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited to introduce Kelly Snyder to you.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: She is from Adore Your Wardrobe.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's a fantastic program that helps you love the clothes that you already have.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: So you go from frustrated maybe about your closet and what you think you own to really loving it and to a fabulous wardrobe that you love putting on and you look forward to wearing every day.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know about you, but that hasn't always been the case for me, especially going through those pregnant years and nursing years and um the survival years where you're just, I'm not thinking about what I'm wearing.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just throwing on what is comfortable and I just gotta get going to the grocery store and hopefully my kids don't have a meltdown.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, but maybe now um you don't really want to live in survival mode and you want to think and put a little more attention and thought into what it is that you are wearing for the day, how you're presenting yourself to others, and even what makes you feel better about yourself.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: So Kelly, I've been following her for a long time.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh when I first moved to town, she was my coupon deal guru that I went to and met her in person and um realized that she is as legit uh and friendly as she was in person as online.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so she I became a loyal follower of her, and then then I noticed uh a few years in uh her message was changing a little bit as her life did.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I really appreciate that about her, is that she she's an authentic person and what she's writing about and sharing about to her friends and to her followers is what she's really uh dealing with in her life, and this reflects the season that she's in.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: So now um now she's not needing to uh go to five different grocery stores and shop with all the coupons.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: She's still deal sensitive, and I think how you'll appreciate is that she helps us look at our wardrobe in a way to just use the clothes we already have and not go spend a bunch of money uh on buying new new items for ourselves.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: So she now has this course because she is a um fashion coach and she's created a course that comes straight to your home through Facebook and through email of how to um to love the clothes that you already have and how to wear them the right way.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I hope you'll enjoy this interview with Kelly and uh look forward to to hearing what your thoughts are and maybe as you uh join, adore your wardrobe, uh you'll be motivated to love your wardrobe once again.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: Hi Kelly, thanks so much for joining me today.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Amy.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited to be here.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yay! So fun.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: You are here to help us figure out how to love the clothes that we own, to go from frustrating closets to fabulous closets.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited to share with our listeners what it is that you are passionate about and that you love doing.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: So now I first stumbled upon your blog when I moved to Kansas City about eight years ago, and you were doing uh things about coupons and deal finders.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then I met you in person at my mom's um small group, and you were sharing about kind of your story and your journey into the blogging world.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Now, what was that story that you'd like to share with our audience?
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, blogging's been interesting.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: I um I started a coupon blog probably at the beginning of well, about middle of 2009.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: And um I did it because I was in a situation, we were in a s situation financially where that's what we needed to do in order to kind of make ends meet.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was kind of in the middle of the recession and people were losing their jobs and those crazy things that were going on.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I kind of just stumbled into blogging.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like I had never anticipated it being a career.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't anticipate it being a job.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I just kind of did it.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I got onto blogger.com and I bought a domain and I just went with it.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's my funny story is that I didn't even know other people were blogging.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like I didn't even know that you weren't reading other blogs.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right, because I wasn't reading other blogs.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: That was what was so funny is that people said, well, I you should start a blog, and so I did, but I wasn't reading other people's blogs at that time.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so I did it for about a year where I didn't like I didn't do any of the business side of blogging, which there's the total business side of blogging, but I didn't do any of it.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like my whole thing was just about connecting with people and helping people out and just being a resource.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden I learned that I could make a career out of it after that first year.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: And so I always say that I was an accidental blogger because I never got into the business to make money.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: I did it because I wanted to help people, and then like all of a sudden I realized that like you actually can make a living from it.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I'm glad I didn't know that for the first year because I think it probably would have jaded me in a way um that some people can get.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm glad I just did it for the sheer joy of it because I think that that's what keeps me going and keeps me doing it.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because the pressure's off then.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not looking to build a business and to help support, supplement your family income.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's just something you do, you're a mom, but this is your little fun, fun for me thing and sharing deals with your friends and and all that.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I know it really helped me.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: I moved, I had um been following someone who was local in Colorado Springs where I had lived, and I had two little girls, and then we moved here and we were going through a complete financial overhaul at that time.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: My husband had lost his job, and we were just basically starting over.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so I was desperate to look for, you know, find the good deals, and I didn't know the grocery stores here.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: It was completely different in the Midwest than it was um back in Colorado.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: And and so I didn't I didn't know where to begin.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I just probably Googled, you know, how do I find Kansas City deals?
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: And your name popped up and uh I started following you then, and it really, really helped me.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: It got us through uh an you know just a tough season of life, but now I look back on it, it was amazing because of where we are now.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: I look back and go, oh yeah, that was tough.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: But um, but we got out of debt and uh found a lot of financial freedom and and in the you know, in the meantime you kind of helped us through that.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: But then after we got through that journey, it was kind of nice because then we could, you know, come up for air, and I wasn't necessarily going to five different grocery stores to try to hit all the deals and stuff like that.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so I noticed some some of that shift about three, four years ago that happened in my life, it seemed to be happening in yours.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: And you announced kind of a new change that your blog was headed.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: So we, you know, I had been at Kansas City Mamas for, I don't know, at that point it probably been five years.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: And um, my lifestyle had just kind of changed.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like the same way with you.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: We had the economy had shifted, we were able to come up for air.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: It was a really good time in our life because we had kind of weathered that storm and we had done it together as a family unit and felt stronger for it, but we weren't kind of in that same desperations place.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and to be honest, like I had changed my focus too.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: I had I was older, um, my kids were older.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when I first started the blog, my daughter was um was two.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and at that point she was in school when I had made this shift over, you know, she was a first grader.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so I really felt like my life had changed and I really wanted to be true to my audience.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like I could have just left things the way they were and probably put it on autopilot and done that, but I felt that that was a disservice to the readers who I really felt a connection to.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: And so we made the decision, or I should say I made the decision to shift my blog focus to really talk to what I consider an under underutilized, not underutilized, under underappreciated group demographic.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: And that's kind of the women that are in that 35 to 50-year-old women set where we are past the age of our kids being in diapers and having toddlers and picking Cheerios up off the floor.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Survival.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: That we were past that, and we were now in this kind of like this this second resurgence of life where I was having friends that were going back to work or they were going back to school to maybe get a different degree than what they had had in college.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they were starting to spend more time on themselves, or at least becoming aware that they needed to spend more time on themselves because they had given and given and given so much in those younger years of their kids that they realized that they needed to feed themselves too.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so they started to make those kind of shifts in those decisions.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that was, yeah, and I think that that was just following true to myself.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's why I did it.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so we had redefined mom, which is what we rebranded in.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: And it's always been its mission is always to basically serve that age group of women where we are, you know, the things that we're interested in.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's like help me out with skincare and help me out with a good fitting bra and help me out with, you know, easy recipes that I feel are healthy for my family, and help me out with, you know, when I'm struggling in the teen years, you know, those those things.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I feel like the shift has been good.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I probably will have another shift too, you know, because my son's about ready to go off to high school, you know, and yeah, that's a whole nother, you know, age range.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: And pretty soon we'll be looking at colleges and what does that look like.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, um, I think it's always that you have to, as a blogger, I always want to be true to my to myself.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like when you're true to yourself, then you're more true to your audience.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: I I I noticed the first time it really piqued my interest.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: One, like you said, you kind of shift out of survival mode and you're into okay, I want to, I want to take more time for myself.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: And to go along with your podcast, I created a kind of an assessment, a time assessment for women in general to look at their life and to see how much time they're spending on themselves.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: And to also contrast it with maybe some of the things we do to spend time on ourselves really isn't feeding our souls well.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like maybe we spend a lot of time on social media after we realize this audio, and we've seen that as being a me time, but it's really not fulfilling us in the long run.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: So just shifting some of that focus and things like that.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so for you as a mom, when did you become aware?
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I this is this is where I want to really get this right and simplify my life, simplify my wardrobe, but also make it reflect who I want to be more like and represented in that way.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, for me, it was after the birth of my my daughter.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: So I have two kids, and um, my daughter's now 11 years old, almost 12, and it was the birth it was after her birth.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it was we knew that we were just gonna have two kids, and so it wasn't that I was gonna be, you know, I wasn't gonna go back into maternity clothes.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: I knew that those were gone.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I had seen that my body had shifted dramatically from fancy pins, you know, that that just is kind of what happens, and it wasn't it things that I could pull off in my 20s, I wasn't really able to do that in my 30s.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so I started just do kind of an evaluation of why I was frustrated with my clothing.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I just did a ton of research, honestly, about okay, this is what's working, this is what's not working.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: And by research, I don't mean like trends.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't about like trying to find like the perfect tunic or the perfect pair of skinny jeans.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't that, it was more about finding kind of like the logistics and the rules behind behind fashion.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like why, how, how is fashion created?
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how does it, why does one outfit look amazing on one person and then it just looks like a hot mess on somebody else?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I just kind of dove into it and I kind of started to figure it out for myself.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I will be honest in that I didn't really share any of my information because I really didn't feel like I was an expert.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: And so I kind of kept it close to my vest, even though my friends were all going through the exact same thing.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to feel like that person, because I didn't feel like an expert, so I didn't feel like I could share.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then fast forward, I'm, you know, I'm 42, almost 43 years old, and my friends were starting to go through it again.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but this time it's the shift when you hit 40, right?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Your metabolism changes.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, a lot of us are going starting to go through perimenopause, um, and those changes are starting to happen.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I was noticing that the my frustrations my friends had in their after they had kids, they were now having again as we were going through this stage of our life.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I decided that I wasn't going to be quiet this time.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: And that's when I started kind of sharing with friends and sharing with others.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then I just decided that it was time again, like my thing has always been like I want to be able to serve women, you know, to help women.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: And that's kind of why we decided, I should say we, but I did, decided to adore your wardrobe.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: I I one of the first posts that I think I noticed that really caught my eye is when you talked about what you should be wearing under your yoga pants.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I laughed because I mean, we've all seen it.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: We've all walked around and we've seen things that we didn't really want to see when women wear their yoga pants.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: So um I just loved how you addressed that.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, I was, I think I went out and and addressed that issue as soon as I could because I was like, she's so right, but it helped me because I've been wondering I had been wondering the same thing and couldn't find a solution to what I should wear under them.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and you kind of defined exactly what you should look for and where the lace should be and what the brand to buy and all the different options.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: And it was really great because it totally solved my problem.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I think to your point too, it's when you address it, then you're like, oh, I've seen that.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then you're like, oh, is that is that me?
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like I might have done that before and I want to do that because I've seen what that looks like, and that doesn't not look good.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like that does not look good.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because you'd like to think that, you know, your frumpy t-shirt should cover everything that it needs to, but it usually doesn't, not when you're bending over and squatting and all that sort of stuff.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Nope, it doesn't.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was great.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, okay, so I um I've been watching you do this for a while, and I honestly have sent a couple people that I know your program because I thought this is awesome, this is brilliant, the adore your roadro adore your roadrope course.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because we all we all have clothes that are hanging in our closet.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Most of us have really packed closets, and we don't want to let go of things that we really loved, but but probably belong to previous life or lifestyle.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: And we have maybe some things we do really like, and we think that they should probably look really good on us.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And we look at Pinterest and we see all these great ideas, but we just can't put it all together.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: So that's really kind of what Adoria Road wardrobe does do as far as helping us women put the pieces together.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I this year I joined your s uh your spring frustration to functional and it's a your free 14-day challenge.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm learning a ton of stuff.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: But you want to share a little bit what's happening in that group that you're doing?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: So um one of the frustration, you know, when I talk to women, I'm a wardrobe coach now.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: And when I talk to women, like they have this, there's a frustration level that can happen inside your closet.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it's usually that moment of like, what do I wear?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: And for some women, that's an exciting moment, right?
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like they're like, what do I get to wear?
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: I get, you know, I'm going to this function and I have to wear this or I can wear this or I could wear this.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm excited.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: But for the majority of women, it it's not the excitement moment.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's this, what am I gonna wear?
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they have and it's not that it's panic, but it sure as heck isn't like excitement and elation and expectation.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's probably emotions that are the complete opposite of that.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so we did a 14-day challenge to really help women kind of dive into the whys behind that.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's a four-lesson course.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we do it in 14 days.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: The first seven days are very easy, and it's just a matter of women documenting what they wear and then putting it in the correct category.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: There's six main categories of clothing and um just kind of what we call just doing a lifestyle audit so they can see how they're, you know, how do they dress in their day-to-day, you know, what they do day in and day out.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there's a lot of things that aha moments that come out of those lifestyle audits.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: For some people, they realize that, like, hey, I spent way too much time in leggings and yoga pants this week.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: I get that I'm a stay-at-home mom, or I get that I'm a retiree, or any of those, but like I really don't need to, you know, be five out of my seven days in this consistent outfit.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: And you have others that um do the lifestyle evaluation or their lifestyle audit and they're, you know, have a moment of like, you know, I probably, I probably could level up a bit.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like I get out of the house pretty often, but I don't really feel like I love what I'm wearing.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe I can we call level up, meaning like you just dress up a bit more and allow yourself to do that.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then the next step is they go through and they kind of look at their wardrobe and they basically do an audit of their wardrobe and they see how many clothes they have in specific categories.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: Again, they're the very same categories that we looked at from our lifestyle.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they go through and they go ahead and do that.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then what we find is that two things happen when they kind of do both of these audits is because then they get to evaluate them against each other because is your wardrobe mirroring what your lifestyle is or is it out of sync?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: And we find that most wardrobes are out of sync, quite honestly.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: So when we look at that, the fact that they are out of sync, it's usually two main reasons.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: One is that we have kind of a fantasy self that may be hanging out inside of our closet, and I'll get more into that detail into what that means exactly inside this little 14-day challenge course.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: And then the other thing is that we really don't love the clothes that we put on, or we don't feel like we can wear the clothes that we love.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: We don't grant ourselves permission to do that.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I remember one of the comments inside, we have a private Facebook group that goes with it.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: A woman said that she wore heels to school to pick up her child, and she felt like she, you know, that she people were going to say things to her that the other moms would then comment about the fact that she wore heels with her jeans, but she loves these heels and she decided today she was going to do it.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I just remember my heart hurting because I was like, well, who cares?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if you love those heels and they make you feel like they make you feel good.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: They don't it's not about anybody else, it's about you feeling good.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: And do you feel good when you put on those heels, even if it is just to pick your kid up at school?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Why why wouldn't you do that?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's already paid for, it's already bought, it's not like you're going and spending more money.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: You're you're just taking things you already own and letting them give you joy.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and so I think for women, this this kind of this thing is for, you know, hopefully at the end, we have one more lesson to go um throughout this challenge where we help them kind of put like a I call it like helping them purge their closet, but then also having an idea of what they want their wardrobe to look like going forward.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um that, you know, for them to give themselves permission that it's okay to get dressed up.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's it.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then for no other reason that it makes them feel good.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's not about, well, what is my husband gonna say?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: And that's important too.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like I firmly believe that there is something that, you know, we do as women, we should care what our husbands think about how we look.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it is important for us to dress that way, to, you know, for them in a sense, but not 100%.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I think for themselves too.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like that we have to realize the impressions we make throughout the day.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: And when I hear people say, Well, it was just my family who saw me, I get that.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: But when you are wearing yoga pants for six days in a row, that's the impression that you've now given your family for six days in a row.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's so good.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: Mom only wants to dress in yoga pants and a hoodie.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: And especially for, you know, our families and our daughters, I mean, I think when we look at it, you know, we want them to have more, right?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: We want them to think like, you know, maybe not that my mom, it's not about being superficial either.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: I hear this too, like, well, this course just sounds superficial.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: I get that.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I'm also a believer that if we feel good on the outside, it's really easy to feel good on the inside.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: But I think the reverse is harder.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you don't feel good on the outside, like you feel like you're, you know, your clothes don't fit right and you just don't feel comfortable or confident, it's hard to feel good on the inside.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I homeschool my three kids right now.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: And talk about it's it's a game changer if I get dressed and ready for the day, uh, like I'm gonna be seeing someone important as opposed to just coming and, you know, in my pajamas and in my comfy clothes, which is really tempting when you look at the calendar and you're like, yeah, no one's gonna see me but my kids.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I make them do the same thing too.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: They have to get out of the pajamas, they have to get, you know, they can still wear something comfortable, but they have to be dressed.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it just, you know, puts you in a different frame of mind.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: It makes me feel better about myself.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it it just changes the whole kind of attitude and atmosphere when we um give that time to ourselves and and we just kind of put our best self forward, even if it doesn't seem like an important audience.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: It speaks volumes to ourselves too.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I think sometimes the most important audience is ourself, like how we, you know, when we have, like you said, when we have that mental shift, that impacts so many other areas of our lives.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um when you have that kind of like ready for the day, confident, I can do this, that it's not only for you for homeschooling, but it's you know, anything else that probably could happen during the day, you are more equipped to handle it.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because your m frame of mind is different than when we just run around in, you know, pajama pants and no bra and big oversized t-shirts.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because then when that person decides to just stop by, you're not like, oh shoot.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I can't believe they're seeing me like this and we're ready for it.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: And and then also then we're ready kind of at a drop of a hat to help someone too.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, not looking in in that way.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then for me, certainly, you know, just puts me in a professional mindset when I go, you know, when I'm done with homeschooling and I switch gears, I don't I don't have to change the switch gears.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just ready.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm ready to go forward and and give my best and and be focused um in the rest of my day for sure.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it does, it does make a really great difference.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: I liked, if you can really uh just touch on real briefly, I think it was one of the first videos that you send out when you sign up for the 14-day course.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it might even come with um once people sign up for Adore Your Wardrobe course.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: And it was about you kind of put a number point system to different pieces of clothing.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to give a brief overview?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because that was a game changer for me.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: I loved it.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: So inside of Adore Your Wardrobe, if you um if you provide us your email address, I send you kind of a teaser course so that you can see kind of what the program is.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: Adore Your Wardrobe is really built as I call it to demystify fashion through principles found in math and science.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like it truly is formulas and rules and proportion and balance.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're one of those people that like you're like well I bet she's going to teach like the creative process of fashion.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's not what we do.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's very much linear.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: So it's one of those things that you know you get your rule sheet and you figure out because everybody's one of an individual body type.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: And once you figure that out you start to figure out how to dress yourself in proportion and balance.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: And once you do that in proportion and balance you tend to look thinner you lose visual weight your clothes just fit better and you look curvier in the right ways and not the wrong ways.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: This is so fast.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah so that's kind of what the course goes over in a nutshell.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: But one of the things we teach is called the rule of four.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: And you get that if you give um your email to me.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: And what the rule of four is is that you want to have four visual pieces of interest in every outfit.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I kind of go through a generalness of what that would be but it's really simple when you think about it.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like if and once you understand that there's this rule that exists that you have never ever been told in your entire life and you start to go to Pinterest you will see you're like oh yes outfit because it has and you count the points right you're like a one two three four and then you find another image that you like on Pinterest you're like oh same thing.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: One, two, three, four.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: So um it's just about having four visual points of interest.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: We um that's what the eye likes to be able to see.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's it allows the eye to bounce around um and it just kind of makes an outfit look more complete.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah it it did.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: I totally was motivated after uh watching that video I went to my closet and I was like oh my gosh this totally makes sense now and I put a couple pieces together and I felt like I walked off the Pinterest ad.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know I was like yes I'm rocking it I do own these clothes already.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: This works for me.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I felt that really uh was helpful.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: So okay besides your free 14 day challenge which I think that is wrapping up here soon but you're about to launch your next course you want to just touch briefly on that and then um kind of share where we can find you.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um so we have we have the adore your wardrobe class we teach that four times a year.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um we you can find me at adoreyourwardrobe.com and that class um the adore your wardrobe class is nine lessons that include a video worksheet and written curriculum that kind of just help you demystify fashion.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: So we talk about um how to find the perfect pair of jeans and I will tell you that I've taught this class to thousands of women and we've yet to find a woman who I cannot find jeans for.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: So if you've got a miracle yeah it is if you've ever struggled with jeans and like you can't ever find them and then on top of finding them also that they're comfortable like that's a big issue that's that's a big thing for me that we not only find you jeans but we find you jeans that you enjoy wearing more than your yoga pants because they're so comfortable.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: We talk about the proper necklines and shirt styles for different women and we help you understand what your body type is and what your rules are behind your body type.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: We go into more information in regards to the rule of four we help you understand what colors you should wear and what colors you should avoid.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: We talk a lot about shapewear and foundations and how the right bra and the right underwear and the right shapewear really can make a huge difference in just your overall silhouette.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: And then we help you be able to find the proper ones for that.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: So it it truly is a list of rules and and formulas and so forth.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: And we have a private Facebook group that we have that goes with it.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so when women sign up they're um with us for 60 days and so the course is 30 days and then we have another 30 days that we call the lab where you are basically you know going to work through and you're gonna execute this on your own and take selfies and post them and then get feedback to help you retrain your eye.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Fashion has lied to women for a number of years and so it's really hard for women at first to retrain their eye about what looks in balance and proportion.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: And the lab really helps you to be able to do that.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: I have a staff of women who have also who have been through the course they're called body type experts and they are basically your mentors that allow that walk through you walk with you.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: They're all different body types as well so when you find out that you're a carrot we have a carrot that's a body type expert that's going to be able to help you and mentor you through you know all of the coursework and then also going forward.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so that registration ends on the 21st of March.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: We started registration on the 12th and then we won't open the course back up again until mid-May.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: But you can find all the information in regards to that at adoreyourwardrobe.com.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh that's awesome.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Kelly I appreciate your your passion and your wholeheartedness to this and helping women love their wardrobe again, find confidence maybe and and you know you know regain confidence that maybe they once had and lost in these kind of you know survival years.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I really just appreciate that you have given the time and the attention to this that you've really figured it out in your life and pulled in experts and got training so you can help so many other women it's it's really awesome.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: So um I think that um that not only will we appreciate it and gain from it but so will the people around us.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: And and that's a really you know fun thing too to start getting some affirmations from whether our spouse or our kids or our coworkers and just that they'll see the confidence level as we kind of step out in what makes us feel good.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: So um thanks again for joining us I sure appreciate it.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: I know my my listeners have learned a lot and I look forward to them checking out adore your wardrobe we'll connect um all these places that you can find Kelly in the show notes and in the meantime uh live wholeheartedly thank you thank you Amy have a great day you too appreciate it Kelly I sure appreciated Kelly giving her time and all her free tips about how you can look at your wardrobe in a new way I hope that you will go check her out at adoreyourwardrobe.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: If you send her your email address she'll send you that free intro video that gives you all the tips and the point system of how to look at your clothes and put them together.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like I shared I watched that video and right away I felt like I had some new fresh ideas to look at my clothes.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then you can just wait for when the courses open up next week is the first one for this year, March 21st that opens up and you can take your course then or maybe in May or maybe sometime again in the summer or the fall.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: In the meantime I hope you live simply wholehearted finding more ways to live unplugged purposeful and intentional until next time