Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Paolo Zampolli’s Alleged Role in the Trump-Melania Origin Story
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Last month, the First Lady of the United
- 0:08Speaker 1: States of America called an impromptu press conference or speech,
- 0:13Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, to tell us all
- 0:16Speaker 1: emphatically that she had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein
- 0:20Speaker 1: and that she wasn't a victim. And at the time,
- 0:22Speaker 1: it seemed weird because nobody was really even talking about
- 0:25Speaker 1: Milania except for a few people. So obviously I was
- 0:28Speaker 1: wondering what prompted her to get up there and, you know,
- 0:32Speaker 1: start talking about Epstein. Well, it turns out that there
- 0:35Speaker 1: was a three ZHO two interview with Adriana Ross where
- 0:39Speaker 1: she tells the story about Milania Trump and Donald Trump
- 0:43Speaker 1: and how they met, and it's an absolute broadside to
- 0:46Speaker 1: the narrative we've heard from Malanya Trump and Donald Trump.
- 0:50Speaker 1: So today we have another article from Raw Story and
- 0:54Speaker 1: the headline Epstein's recruiter FBI note contradicts Milania' sty and
- 1:01Speaker 1: may have triggered her panic. This article was authored by
- 1:04Speaker 1: Jordan Green, and if you're a call, we've read through
- 1:08Speaker 1: the whole entire three to zero two so that you
- 1:11Speaker 1: saw what Adriana Ross or heard what Adriana Ross had
- 1:14Speaker 1: to say for yourself and whether you choose to believe her, well,
- 1:18Speaker 1: that's up to you. But in my opinion, something stinks
- 1:22Speaker 1: when it comes to the story of how Milania Trump
- 1:25Speaker 1: and Donald Trump met. Milania Trump's hastily called press briefing
- 1:30Speaker 1: last month to emphatically deny any relationship with the late
- 1:34Speaker 1: sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein elicited a flurry of speculation about
- 1:39Speaker 1: who might be holding information that the first lady doesn't
- 1:42Speaker 1: want to come out. And I know the talk was
- 1:44Speaker 1: about Amanda Ungaro, but I have some questions about what
- 1:49Speaker 1: she had to say, So I didn't think it was
- 1:52Speaker 1: Amanda Ungaro that elicited this sort of reaction from Milanya.
- 1:58Speaker 1: And it makes a whole lot more sense that it's
- 2:00Speaker 1: the three zero two report that was given by Adriana
- 2:03Speaker 1: Ross to the FBI. That certainly makes a lot more sense.
- 2:06Speaker 1: And that's because it's a lot more damning. You can't
- 2:09Speaker 1: just write it off as somebody that has, you know,
- 2:11Speaker 1: an issue with you a beef. Oh, we had a
- 2:15Speaker 1: falling out. Amanda Ongaro's mad because she got deported. Well,
- 2:19Speaker 1: Adriana Ross, when she was interviewed certainly had no grip
- 2:23Speaker 1: with Donald Trump or Milania Trump, so why would she
- 2:26Speaker 1: bring that up. I think it has legs, and I
- 2:30Speaker 1: think that there's a lot more here than we even know.
- 2:34Speaker 1: A statement provided to the FBI and federal prosecutors by
- 2:37Speaker 1: a former model who worked for Epstein as a recruiter
- 2:40Speaker 1: for a sex trafficking enterprise appears to shed some light
- 2:44Speaker 1: on what Milania is trying to keep under wraps. And
- 2:47Speaker 1: you know how I tell you that the media is
- 2:50Speaker 1: always a few weeks at least behind us. This is
- 2:52Speaker 1: what I mean. We've already covered this, right, We've talked
- 2:57Speaker 1: about this and how it was Adriana Ross and her
- 3:01Speaker 1: three to two that shed light here. So I would
- 3:04Speaker 1: expect the legacy media to start calling for a special
- 3:07Speaker 1: council in like six months. The entry in the Epstein
- 3:12Speaker 1: files mentioning Milanya and Donald by name focuses on a
- 3:15Speaker 1: man at the center of the modeling industry that brought
- 3:18Speaker 1: the Trumps together with Epstein in the late nineties and
- 3:21Speaker 1: early two thousands. You know, the whole modeling industry is
- 3:25Speaker 1: chock full with sick, degenerate people, and I doubt it's changed.
- 3:32Speaker 1: I doubt they've had some kind of renaissance period, some reformation,
- 3:36Speaker 1: same kind of scumbags. Can somebody please explain to me
- 3:40Speaker 1: why a guy like Donald Trump wants to have a
- 3:43Speaker 1: teen pageant that he owns. What's the return on investment there?
- 3:48Speaker 1: I'm guessing not great. Paulo Zampolli, the modeling agent who
- 3:56Speaker 1: reportedly arranged a visa for then Milanya Noss to come
- 3:59Speaker 1: work in the United States, now serves as a special
- 4:02Speaker 1: envoy for the President for a global partnership under the
- 4:05Speaker 1: auspices of the US State Department. The Epstein administration in
- 4:10Speaker 1: full effect. And if you're wondering why Donald Trump is
- 4:13Speaker 1: going so bananas about keeping this under wraps, well just
- 4:18Speaker 1: take a look. The seamless connection between the models represented
- 4:23Speaker 1: by Zimpolly, many of them recruited from abroad to work
- 4:26Speaker 1: in the US on visas, and the women who became
- 4:29Speaker 1: Epstein's victims and enablers is glaringly illustrated by Adriana Muchinska,
- 4:35Speaker 1: a Polish born model who worked for both men. And
- 4:38Speaker 1: that's Adriana Ross. She got married and she took her
- 4:41Speaker 1: husband's last name. Ross described meeting Epstein through Zimpoli in
- 4:47Speaker 1: a twenty nineteen interview with the FBI and federal prosecutors
- 4:51Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach, Florida, less than a week after
- 4:54Speaker 1: Epstein's July twenty nineteen arrest on charges of sex trafficking
- 4:58Speaker 1: miners A guy that pollows Zampoli and I'm sure that
- 5:02Speaker 1: him and Jeffrey Epstein, they were just talking about, you know,
- 5:05Speaker 1: the local fare. Have you had the caviaar have you
- 5:09Speaker 1: had yourself some of that large grouper whatever the fuck
- 5:12Speaker 1: these people eat. I mean, you think that's what they
- 5:14Speaker 1: were talking about. I highly doubt it. And another thing,
- 5:19Speaker 1: what did Polo Zampoli know and when did he know it. Wusinska,
- 5:28Speaker 1: also known as Adriana Ross, was described in a twenty
- 5:31Speaker 1: twenty New York Times investigation as one of four recruiters
- 5:34Speaker 1: who worked under Glen Maxwell to procure teenage girls for
- 5:38Speaker 1: massage appointments, which often turned into sexual assaults. Well, that's true,
- 5:43Speaker 1: she did do that. That was her job, one of
- 5:45Speaker 1: the core for And it's about time that people are
- 5:50Speaker 1: hip to the fact that these women were crucial to
- 5:53Speaker 1: what Epstein was doing. Without them, this operation doesn't run
- 5:59Speaker 1: the way it did Muchinska was reportedly named as a
- 6:07Speaker 1: co conspirator and granted immunity from prosecution and Epstein's widely
- 6:11Speaker 1: criticized two thousand and eight plea bargain. Yes, she was.
- 6:15Speaker 1: All four Core four members were given immunity, and that's
- 6:19Speaker 1: because they didn't want them to talk. They can't control
- 6:21Speaker 1: the blast radius if there's a bunch of people out
- 6:24Speaker 1: here talking about what's going on. So they gave them
- 6:26Speaker 1: a deal too, anything to make sure their buddy, Jeffrey
- 6:29Speaker 1: Epstein remains a free man and remains abusing people. That's
- 6:32Speaker 1: all that mattered. According to interview notes reviewed by raw Story,
- 6:39Speaker 1: Muchinska told investigator she removed computers from Epstein's pom Beach,
- 6:43Speaker 1: Florida mansion in two thousand and five at his request.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Well how about that, huh Nah, coincidence. He was just
- 6:52Speaker 1: taking those computers over to the geek squad so they
- 6:55Speaker 1: could fix them. That's all just happened to have his
- 6:58Speaker 1: house rated that day. Come on, coincidence? What are you
- 7:01Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist? But before Muchinska knew Epstein, she knew Zampoli.
- 7:09Speaker 1: A type report of Muchinska's July twenty nineteen interview in
- 7:13Speaker 1: West Palm Beach with two unnamed federal prosecutors and an
- 7:17Speaker 1: unnamed FBI agent. Compiled in an official FBI document and
- 7:21Speaker 1: released in the Epstein Files, indicates that Muchinska was interviewed
- 7:25Speaker 1: as part of a proffer agreement, which typically provides immunity
- 7:29Speaker 1: or leniency to an individual with information about a crime
- 7:33Speaker 1: in exchange for complete truthfulness. They didn't even use it.
- 7:39Speaker 1: They gave her the immunity and didn't even use her testimony.
- 7:44Speaker 1: And then they said they had a weak case. You
- 7:47Speaker 1: don't bring up Sarah Kellen Vickers, you don't bring up
- 7:49Speaker 1: Adriana Ross, Leslie Groff, you don't bring them up and say, hey,
- 7:53Speaker 1: look you're going to testify against Epstein or you're going
- 7:57Speaker 1: to prison. They didn't do any of that, did they.
- 7:59Speaker 1: I wonder why. The FBI report states that the individual
- 8:05Speaker 1: whose name is redacted put Muchinska in contact with an
- 8:08Speaker 1: agent named Paulo Zampoli, who work with ID models, and
- 8:12Speaker 1: that it was organized for Muchinska to go to New
- 8:14Speaker 1: York to model. The report states that Muchinska lived in
- 8:18Speaker 1: a model's apartment because she did not have the funds
- 8:21Speaker 1: to pay for her own apartment. That was the Epstein
- 8:24Speaker 1: Apartments on sixty six, where Epstein would stashed all the
- 8:27Speaker 1: girls that were engaged in the immigration fraud. The apartment
- 8:32Speaker 1: accommodated ten people and was on the same street as
- 8:35Speaker 1: the model agency on Barick Street. It states that Muchinska
- 8:39Speaker 1: had an affair with the agent and that Zampoli was
- 8:42Speaker 1: trying to buy elite models with Epstein. The next sentence
- 8:47Speaker 1: in the typed FBI report of Muchinska's interview based on
- 8:50Speaker 1: her profit agreement states, Epstein introduced Milanya Trump to Donald Trump. Well, well,
- 8:56Speaker 1: well so did Muchinsky Lai. If so, then her immunity
- 9:01Speaker 1: under that deal is no longer valid. So which is it.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Are they going to pursue her and say she lied
- 9:08Speaker 1: or is she telling the truth? In my opinion, she's
- 9:11Speaker 1: telling the truth. That sentence alone would be a bombshell revelation,
- 9:16Speaker 1: except that separate handwritten notes from the same interview confuse
- 9:20Speaker 1: by giving contradictory information, suggesting that Muchinska told investigators that
- 9:25Speaker 1: it was Zampoli who introduced Donald and Milania, as Zampoli
- 9:29Speaker 1: has always maintained, Those notes only reference the person who
- 9:33Speaker 1: made the introduction, as he the notations proceeding and immediately following.
- 9:39Speaker 1: It suggests that he is Zampoli, considering the document, says
- 9:43Speaker 1: he's trying to buy elite models with Jeffrey Epstein, and
- 9:46Speaker 1: I think he's an ambassador. Now, well, let's get to
- 9:49Speaker 1: the bottom of it. Let's bring Adrian A. Ross in
- 9:51Speaker 1: and let's get her under oath. Seems like a pretty
- 9:55Speaker 1: simple fix to me. Milanya has emphatically denied that Epstein
- 9:59Speaker 1: played a mat making role, and during her April ninth
- 10:02Speaker 1: press conference directly stated Epstein did not introduce me to
- 10:06Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But another statement by Milanya later in the
- 10:10Speaker 1: press conference is clearly disproven by Mucinska's FBI proffer interview.
- 10:15Speaker 1: My name has never appeared in court documents, depositions, victim statements,
- 10:20Speaker 1: or FBI interviews surrounding the Epstein matter. The first lady said,
- 10:24Speaker 1: what do you know another Trump who's telling lies? I'm shocked, shocked, folks.
- 10:30Speaker 1: During the press conference, Malanya brushed aside an email she
- 10:33Speaker 1: sent to Glenn Maxwell, Epstein's partner on October twenty third,
- 10:37Speaker 1: two thousand and two, roughly around the same time that
- 10:40Speaker 1: Muchinska arrived in the US as a trivial note. Yeah,
- 10:44Speaker 1: like mister Lutnik, right, that's just trivial, inconsequential minor meetings.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Milanya also described the email, which includes the header high,
- 10:55Speaker 1: as a plight reply, but the documents released by the
- 10:58Speaker 1: Department of Justice early show that it was Maxwell who
- 11:02Speaker 1: made a polite reply to Milanya, and that Milanya initiated
- 11:06Speaker 1: the exchange. These people are so deep in their lives
- 11:09Speaker 1: that they actually believe it. Emails to the office of
- 11:12Speaker 1: the first Lady seeking comment for the story went on returned.
- 11:16Speaker 1: The FBI referred raw Story's questions about the discrepancy between
- 11:20Speaker 1: the two documents to the Department of Justice. Emails to
- 11:24Speaker 1: the Department of Justice went On returned. In the next
- 11:27Speaker 1: passage of the typed interview and handwritten note detailing how
- 11:31Speaker 1: Muchinska met Epstein leading to her eventual employment with a
- 11:34Speaker 1: child sex trafficker, there is no contradiction. The note indicates
- 11:39Speaker 1: that Muchinska told investigators that Epstein visited ID models during
- 11:43Speaker 1: casting auditions for models and slipped through a portfolio where
- 11:47Speaker 1: he saw a photo of Muchinska wearing only swim bottoms.
- 11:51Speaker 1: The next paragraph reflects that Muchinska reported that she was
- 11:55Speaker 1: at a nightclub with Zampoli, Epstein, and a second unidentified
- 11:59Speaker 1: woman the woman took down Muchinska's phone number, and Muchinska
- 12:03Speaker 1: recalled that either the woman or Epstein later called her
- 12:07Speaker 1: with an invitation to have dinner with Epstein. Probably Sarah
- 12:11Speaker 1: Kellen Vickers, but I'm not sure, maybe not a You
- 12:15Speaker 1: could be either one. Zampoli could not be reached for
- 12:18Speaker 1: comment for this story, but in a statement to The
- 12:20Speaker 1: American Prospect last month, he said, with regard to Jeffrey Epstein,
- 12:25Speaker 1: it's a matter of public record that he had connections
- 12:27Speaker 1: within the fashion and modeling sector. He did visit our headquarters. However,
- 12:32Speaker 1: any implication of involvement, collaboration, or endorsement is categorically rejected.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Any suggestion otherwise is false and will be addressed accordingly. Okay,
- 12:43Speaker 1: address it. Look, I don't know what the truth is,
- 12:46Speaker 1: but I do know what I'm being bullshitting. Zampoli told
- 12:51Speaker 1: The American Prospect he wasn't sure whether he remembered Muchinska,
- 12:54Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because as an owner of an agency,
- 12:57Speaker 1: he doesn't need to know every single model of his agency.
- 13:01Speaker 1: After accepting Epstein's dinner invitation, Muchinska told investigators she took
- 13:06Speaker 1: a tour of the residence and were aboff sexual advances
- 13:09Speaker 1: from Epstein. As a driver took her home, she remembered
- 13:12Speaker 1: being tearful in the car for reasons on explained in
- 13:16Speaker 1: the interview. Muchinska accepted employment from Epstein in late two
- 13:20Speaker 1: thousand and four. Muchinska's duties including scheduling massage appointments for Epstein,
- 13:25Speaker 1: and one passage of the reports reflects Muchinska telling investigators
- 13:29Speaker 1: she was not sure if the girls who massaged Epstein
- 13:32Speaker 1: were under age, but it seemed consensual and she knew
- 13:36Speaker 1: it was a sexual massage. I don't believe that for
- 13:38Speaker 1: a minute. And I don't look at Adriana Ross by
- 13:42Speaker 1: the way, as a victim. I look at her as
- 13:44Speaker 1: part of the corps. For Muchinska's time working for Zampoli
- 13:48Speaker 1: in New York was sensitive enough that her lawyer advised
- 13:51Speaker 1: her during the twenty ten deposition for a civil lawsuit
- 13:54Speaker 1: brought by one of Epstein's victims, that she should invoke
- 13:57Speaker 1: the Fifth Amendment to preserve her right to avoid self incrimination.
- 14:01Speaker 1: And we read through that as well. Now you see
- 14:05Speaker 1: why we go through all those court documents. I know
- 14:07Speaker 1: it's not the funny shit in the world. I get it,
- 14:10Speaker 1: but we're not here for fun. I'm not here to entertain.
- 14:13Speaker 1: I'm here to open these doors for you, so you
- 14:15Speaker 1: understand just exactly what we're up against. During the deposition,
- 14:19Speaker 1: Muchinska disclosed that she worked for ID Models in New
- 14:22Speaker 1: York and that her husband put her in touch with
- 14:25Speaker 1: the agency. When a lawyer for plaintiffs asked how long
- 14:28Speaker 1: she worked with ID Models, Muchinska's lawyer interjected, you should
- 14:32Speaker 1: invoke the regard to the timeframe you're talking about. Muchinska
- 14:36Speaker 1: has not spoken to the media in the past and
- 14:38Speaker 1: cannot be reached for this story. The House Oversight and
- 14:42Speaker 1: Government Reform Committee James Comer is reportedly exploring the possibility
- 14:47Speaker 1: of calling her to testify. Well, if she lied during
- 14:51Speaker 1: that three to zero two, she should be brought in, right,
- 14:55Speaker 1: Don't they want to protect Trump? So Comer should bring
- 14:57Speaker 1: her in. Chinska is not the only former model who
- 15:02Speaker 1: links Epstein to Trump's current Special Envoy for Global Partnerships.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Another woman whose names redacted, described a work arrangement under
- 15:10Speaker 1: Zampoli that was strikingly similar to Muchinska's during in April
- 15:14Speaker 1: twenty twenty interview with the FBI. After signing with ID
- 15:18Speaker 1: Models at age of eighteen. The woman said she lived
- 15:21Speaker 1: in the model's apartment on Barrack Street. According to the document,
- 15:25Speaker 1: according to the woman, Zompoli was sleazy and dated models.
- 15:29Speaker 1: She said that she said at the apartment for a
- 15:31Speaker 1: year before Zampoli let her go. Later, she was working
- 15:36Speaker 1: at the host stand at the coffee shop at Union
- 15:38Speaker 1: Square in Manhattan. The woman told investigators that a woman
- 15:41Speaker 1: with an Eastern European accent approached her and invited her
- 15:45Speaker 1: to meet Epstein, whom she described as a wealthy client.
- 15:49Speaker 1: The document describes a massage session in which Epstein commanded
- 15:53Speaker 1: the woman to take off her clothes and pressured her
- 15:55Speaker 1: into non consensual sexual encounter. Later, the woman told investigators
- 16:00Speaker 1: she had a mental breakdown, started drinking, and couldn't function.
- 16:04Speaker 1: The statement aligns on significant points with an account given
- 16:08Speaker 1: by a survivor known as Kiki Doe during the twenty
- 16:12Speaker 1: nineteen interview for TV's Doctor Oz. In that interview, the
- 16:16Speaker 1: survivor described the coffee shop as a hunting ground for
- 16:18Speaker 1: recruiters because most of the staff were models. The Doctor
- 16:22Speaker 1: Oz interview appears to include no mention of Zampoli, and
- 16:26Speaker 1: Kiki Doe is said in separate interview that the model's
- 16:29Speaker 1: apartment where she stayed was on forty second Street, as
- 16:32Speaker 1: opposed to Erwick Street. I'm guessing sixty six is what
- 16:36Speaker 1: she means. Met met Oz, the host of Doctor Oz,
- 16:40Speaker 1: now serves as administrator of the Center for Medicare and
- 16:43Speaker 1: Medicaid Services in the Trump administration. Of course, why not.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Terry Gibbs, the attorney who represents the woman who described
- 16:52Speaker 1: working for Zampoli at ID Models, declined a request to
- 16:55Speaker 1: put Raw Story in touch with her client or discuss
- 16:58Speaker 1: her statement to the FBI. While zam Polli might plausibly
- 17:02Speaker 1: claim he doesn't remember Mucinska or the Epstein's reviver recruited
- 17:05Speaker 1: from the coffee shop, another former model linked to Epstein
- 17:09Speaker 1: will be harder to ignore. Amanda Onngaro, a Brazilian model
- 17:13Speaker 1: who dated Zampoli for almost two decades and has a
- 17:16Speaker 1: fifteen year old son with him, arrived in New York
- 17:19Speaker 1: in two thousand and two on Epstein's private jet. Her
- 17:22Speaker 1: modeling agent in Paris who arranged your flight was Jean
- 17:25Speaker 1: lu Brunel, a long time Epstein associate who died of
- 17:29Speaker 1: an apparent suicide in a Parisian prison cell in twenty
- 17:32Speaker 1: twenty two, while awaiting trial for rape of miners and
- 17:36Speaker 1: trafficking of miners for sexual exploitation. On Garo, who was
- 17:41Speaker 1: deported by US Immigration, Customs and Enforcement following Zampoli's intervention
- 17:46Speaker 1: in our case, has said she's willing to testify before
- 17:50Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee looking into the Epstein affair. Well,
- 17:53Speaker 1: what are we waiting for. Let's get her up there.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Let's see what she has to say under oath. One
- 17:59Speaker 1: day for Malanya Trump's hastily call press conference, Hungaro wrote
- 18:03Speaker 1: on x and a post that was subsequently deleted, something
- 18:07Speaker 1: was clearly wrong. But I'm not part of any evil
- 18:09Speaker 1: mission involving children. So what did you do? Malanya? You
- 18:13Speaker 1: tried to involve me, but you failed because I have character.
- 18:17Speaker 1: So look again, I don't know enough about Amanda Ungaro's
- 18:20Speaker 1: story here to really get into the weeds. There's a
- 18:23Speaker 1: lot to pick through. But when you have other corroborating information,
- 18:29Speaker 1: and you have somebody like Adriana Ross saying this during
- 18:32Speaker 1: a three h two profer, it carries weight. So if
- 18:36Speaker 1: she's lying, then they should bring her in. But if
- 18:39Speaker 1: they don't bring her in, if they don't go after her,
- 18:43Speaker 1: then What does that tell you? It tells me that
- 18:46Speaker 1: there's legs, and it tells me that what Adriana Ross
- 18:50Speaker 1: said is true. And while we don't have a full
- 18:53Speaker 1: picture yet, what we do know is pretty damning to
- 18:57Speaker 1: the narrative that's being pitched by Milania Trump. So we'll
- 19:01Speaker 1: have to keep an eye on it, and like usual,
- 19:03Speaker 1: when we have more information here, we'll get it added
- 19:06Speaker 1: to the catalog. All the information that goes with this
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