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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: The Perfect Marriage Between Vic Fangio, Andrew Mukuba · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to Inside the Tape with Greg Cosell
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on Inside the Birds. I'm Jeff Mosher alongside Adam Kaplan
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and of course the guy we named the show after,
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Greg Cosell, is going to go inside the tape with
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us in this very episode of the Eagles and their
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win in Kansas City. It was a tight one there
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at the end, but the Eagles pull it out.
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Speaker 2: Greg.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot to go through, both offensively and defensively.
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Those who know this show now know that we do
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it in two parts. So I figured, with the way
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the Eagles won, Greg, and some of the observations that
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I know that you made on the tape on the defense,
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let's start with the defense. It's more exciting. There was
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some energy, energetic, a lot of youthful guys making plays
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in this win for the Eagles. What stood out to
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you defensively about not only the personal the game plan
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by Vic Fangio.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the key thing that became noticeable pretty quickly,
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guys was you know they played this team. I mean
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it seemed like they played them a long time ago,
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but in terms of you know the fact that they
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played them just you know, three games ago, so which
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you know, again it was back in February, but you know,
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three games ago the Eagles, and I guess I wasn't surprised.
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It's vic Fango, It's not its first rodeo. They had
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a totally different game plan for this game than they
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did in the Super Bowl. Totally different. You wouldn't have
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thought it was the same coordinator. This game featured pressure.
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They had pressure concepts with significant snaps of five man rushes.
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They played far more man coverage. Cover one was a
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strong foundation. You I don't I didn't check back, but
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you could probably count on one hand the number of
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snaps they played Cover one in the in the Super Bowl.
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So this was a totally different game plan. And you know,
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for someone like me who loves watching tape, I I
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loved it and the play that got me excited, and
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I called all the guys in from the matchup show
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and said, hey, look at this was the mccuba smith,
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the Zadarius Smith, the what sack you know that was
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which Mahomes did not recognize at all with mccuba. You know,
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to me, that was just very representative of what we
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saw in the game.
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Speaker 1: I believe Andrew mccooba was quoted after the game saying
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that he did not have an entire sack his college career.
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Speaker 2: So right, he's a really good football player, by the way.
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Speaker 3: Greg, I want to stay on him.
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Speaker 4: And you were Look, you told us when Eagles made
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the trade for Gardon Johnson to twenty twenty two. I
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mean you you, I mean you're a big fan. Gardon
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Johnson backed up with his play two separate occasions with Eagles. Right,
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so they replaced Macoba, he replaces mccooba rather uh in it. Look,
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I don't we don't need to compare players. But and
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Syrianni's talked about it, and Fanzo has talked about it.
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He has a notes for the football. And I know
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it's kind of a cliche, but what did you really
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like about mccuba go really back from Clemson back.
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Speaker 2: To Clemson in Yeah, No, I watched mccouver for a
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couple of years, and I didn't watch his freshman tape
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at Clemson, but he really burst onto the college scene
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as many might recall. You know, rarely do I use
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the word instincts because I think you have to define
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what that means. It's an easy word to throw out
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but what we've I know, we've talked about this before.
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Macooba just sees things fast, and in some ways, he's
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like a quarterback that sees things some guys do some
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guys don't. You know, that's hard to teach, and I
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think he just sees it fast and because of that,
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he's constantly playing with a quick trigger. I mean, you
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see that he made a great play in the run
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game also combining a tackle with Zadarius Smith if you
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recall that play. Yes, but he just sees things fast
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and therefore he reacts and he has a great under
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standing innate because obviously guys get coached all through, you know,
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their careers when they start playing, but at some point
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you just have to see it and react the right way.
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And he just reacts the right way. And you know,
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the biggest issue with him will be staying healthy because
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he gained some weight, but you can see by his
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body frame he's just not a big man. You know,
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He's never going to be two hundred and twenty pounds and
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look like a big man, you know, but he's a
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really good football player.
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Speaker 1: Greg sticking on that secondary look, I mean, the Eagles
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played forty according to your notes. Forty five snaps of
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the fifty seven snaps were either nickel or dimes, So
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that's heavily nickel and dyme. But the Chiefs played a
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lot of twelve personnel, even some thirteen. So how often
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do you see teams counter twelve personnel with that much nickel?
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Speaker 2: It depends on the opponent. No one's really worried about
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the Chiefs run game. I mean, I'm just being honest. Yeah,
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that's been a problem for the Chiefs over these last
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couple of years when they haven't had same kind of
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offense they had, you know, three, four, five years ago,
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is they don't really have a stabilizing run game. You
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know a lot of teams, if they're struggling offensively, they
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hand the ball off, they get back on track, they
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get back into hey it's second and three. You know
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that kind of offense where then your playbook opens up
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and you can kind of and you know what a
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run game does, I mean, it wears down a defense.
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You know, it's the manhood element of football.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people in Philadelphia kind of know what
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that's like when you're exactly great your running back. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So they don't really have that. So I'm sure
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that in the game planning, you know, vic Fango and
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staff were not thinking, oh my god, we're just going
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to really get hurt by the run game if we
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play nickel and they're not, they're not going to get
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hurt by it. And plus Degene is a very physical player.
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We've seen Macouba play downhill with tenacity because he plays,
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he plays in the nickel. He did not play again
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in the base. They stayed with that sort of coverage
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delineation where if it was true, Basse was outside and
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Sydney Brown was the safety, and if it was nickel,
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Dejane came inside into the slot and Macouba played safety.
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So that's seemingly what they're going to do. Whether that
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changes over the course, you know, it's two games. You
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don't know, that could theoretically change, but it's probably smart
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because you know, you don't want to wear Macouba out.
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I mean again, the body type is such that you
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you know, maybe it's better to do this. Well, we'll
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just see how it goes. But I mean, Bond and
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Campbell literally play every snap. And you know, if I
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you know, you know me, I'm not sarcastic, and I
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don't mean this in a sarcastic way, but it's it's
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not likely that Nikobe Dean's getting his job back, and
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he's just a superior I mean even place he doesn't
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make you just see the twitch with which he moves,
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I mean, and you lose sight of the fact that
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he's six three to forty plus. They're starting to They
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used him more in this game rushing the quarterback than
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they did week one, and he can do that. You know.
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Now Dean can do that too. That's what he was
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very good out at Georgia. But there's a big difference
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just in size and twitch.
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Speaker 4: Sure, Greg one more thing on the secondary because people
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want to know Doroty Jackson was it better this time
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around for him?
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Speaker 2: They didn't really go after him. I mean, they don't
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have that kind of passing. I'm being honest.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The one thing that was evident though is Mitchell was
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the field corner and Jackson was the boundary corner every snap.
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So Mitchell did not play side, you know, one side
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as he did all of last year. You know where
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he was the right corner and Slay was the left corner.
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This year, Mitchell is the field corner and Jackson is
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the boundary corner.
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Speaker 1: Why do they do that? Greg? Is that because you
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take your lesser corner and give them the sideline help
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and you give your better corner of the field.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's a great question. I bet there's different
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philosophies about that. You know, very often teams like to
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put their best corner to the boundary.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's what I thought. Yeah, I've had that.
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Speaker 2: Converge station at the combine with both defensive coaches and
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wide receiver coaches. So you know, I'm just being honest.
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I don't have a brilliant answer for that, Jeff, because
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I don't know what vic Fango's philosophy is, you know,
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and again it could have been just this game too.
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There's not one receiver on the Chiefs that you feel
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like we better stop that guy or we're in trouble, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Right, So it'll be it'll be really fascinating.
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Speaker 2: We don't get any example. I already watched the Rams
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defense against the Titans offense, yep, and Jerius Sneed matched
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up the whole game to DeVante Adams, right, And the
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reason he did that not is because Nicu is a
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movement guy. So you don't know where he's going to
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line up, whereas Adams is not a movement guy in
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their offense, so sneed matched up to Nkua, I mean
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to Adams on almost every snap. Now, will the Eagles
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feel like, hey, we want Mitchell on Adams? You know,
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we don't know going forward. It could have been just
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this game.
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Speaker 1: Right, That's I was just about to say that we'll
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find Uh, it'll be a fascinating look at what they
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do in Week three against the Rams compared to what
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they did in Week one and then Week two, which
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were different. Why don't we talk about the front of
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the defensive front? Will start on the inside. Jalen Carter
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played his first game, and overall, what jumped out at
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you from Carter Jomo Jordan Davis, who I thought it
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was interesting? Jordan Davis was I believe the first interior
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pass rusher in the four man front on the first
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third down that the Chiefs faced.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought Davis had another strong game.
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Really some strong snaps in the run game, not as
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many as a pass rusher, but you know, it was
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certainly there. It wasn't as if, you know, he looked bad.
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You know, he just didn't necessarily get close to the quarterback.
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That doesn't mean he played poorly. But I thought again,
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he was a factor in the run game. You know,
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he obviously played you know, a few less snaps percentage wise,
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just because Carter was back and they have a rotation.
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But I thought he played really well. You know, I'm
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trying to think who else, you know, stood out. I
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thought that Ajomo played significantly better this week. He had
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some strong two or three individual plays that I remember
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where he had strong power inside rushes, you know, when
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Carter's just caught her. Because he dictates how teams play,
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you know. And by the way, the thing, the point
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that I wanted to make on that Mcuba, which you
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know obviously you saw my notes on that Mcuba Saint
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Zadarius Smith sack, and this was absolutely intentional. They aligned
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Carter at defensive right tackle, where he rarely plays. Okay,
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he played five snaps in this game, but that's even
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a lot for him. He normally doesn't play there, maybe
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one or two snaps a game. And they did that
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intentionally because that was opposite where mccouba was coming from,
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and they knew that the center Humphrey would slide to Carter,
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which he's pretty much been doing all game up to
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that point, so he would not be in a position
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to react to mccuba, who then shot through the gap.
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You know, so this is done intentionally. None of this
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is done on a whim. It's not random bus. But
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Carter's just caught her. I mean, he's a very tough guy.
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The stats don't really mean a lot with Carter. You know,
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he's not going to have seventy tackles. You know, maybe
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one year he'll get fifteen or sixteen sacks if it
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just works out that way. But he's just a dominant force.
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Speaker 4: And he draws so many double teams that Yeah, Greg,
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God asked you about the z Man so Darius Smith
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Jefferano strongly he'd play, but there was no watch. He
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noticed him, Greg, he played more than josh Usha. Give
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us an idea of what the tape look like to you?
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Speaker 2: For Smith, Yeah, I thought I thought he played well.
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I mean, you noticed him. He played well in the
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run game. You know, he's a big guy. I mean
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people might not, you know, obviously in Philly, I'm sure
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a lot of people once they saw they signed him
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probably said, oh, let's take a look at a Darius
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Smith and go back to YouTube and watch him. But
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he's a big guy, long arms, athletic. He can playoff contact.
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He did that a number of times in the run game.
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He understands how to set the edge, you know, he
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understands how to play. And he's always been a solid
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pass rusher. And throughout his career, by the way, and
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we'll see what happens with the Eagles. It didn't happen
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in this game, but throughout his career he's moved inside
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a lot as well. So he's played on the outside,
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he's played on the inside. You know, he's moved all around.
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You know. Don't forget this was his first game. He
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was only probably at what three practices, so I'm sure
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they weren't giving him a whole bunch, you know, but
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he can he can move around, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Greg, real quick.
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Speaker 4: I remember we talked on the pregame show that theyll
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if he plays, which we thought he played, But how
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much he plays with depend on what kind of shape
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he's in.
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Speaker 3: Well, clearly was a good shape.
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Speaker 2: He looks in shape, just you know a lot. Yeah.
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So you know, the other interesting thing, they had some
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interesting you know, alignments on the defensive front because they
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wanted a spy Mahomes at times. So there were a
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couple of times there Hunt and Smith lined up on
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the same side and they used Hunt as a spy.
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You know, you're always adding things to play to your opponent.
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You know, you have your staples, and some team you
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can play your staples, you know, and your staples are
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good enough, you know, because you're good. But other teams
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you have to do specific things that you game plan
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in that week of practice because of the nature of
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your opponent.
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Speaker 1: Did you notice the spying happening later in like second
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half after Mahones had beat them or was that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did, I did, so that was an
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adjustment absolutely, Yeah, he had those scrambles. You know what
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did I tell you guys last week too? I said,
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it seems like the Chiefs offense has become a home
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scrambles That showed up in this game pretty quickly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I feel like Vick, even though he
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made the adjustment, would probably trade some of those scrambles.
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I mean, he's happy to have them as opposed to
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trying to do something differently and getting beat over the
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top right right, a bigger play.
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Speaker 2: You know, and sometimes great players make great plays and
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you know, you just you move on to the next play.
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I mean, you know, that's that's the way it kind
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of works.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he threw We talked about the Matthew
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stat he threw a no look pass. I didn't realize
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it until I was watching.
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Speaker 2: It on tape.
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Speaker 1: He did one of those like looking that way and
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fired it. I think it was the kelsey while he
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was getting rushed and I'm it's just one of those
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unbelievable but hes yeah, and then they're gonna see it's
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just like that. They'll see see it more on Sunday
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with Stafford. The linebackers, Greg, the stack linebackers, as we
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move away from the edge of the line, they were
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very They had a big role against the Cowboys because
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there were a couple of plays in coverage that came
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up really big in that game. It feels like this
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game plan or responsibilities were a little bit different based
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on how Kansas City maneuver.
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Speaker 2: Question. So you didn't see Bond make as many tackles,
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you know, but that doesn't mean guys play poorly. And
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see that's where and I'm just being honest, that's where
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It's hard for me to answer because you know, as
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far as we know, Bond could have done exactly what
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he was asked to do, and that doesn't just because
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he doesn't have twelve tackles doesn't mean he didn't play
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a good game. You know, we don't. That's the stuff.
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You'd have to be in their meetings to know that. Uh.
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But certainly bonn or Campbell didn't get beaten anyway where
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he went, Oh my god, look what just happened?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: But you know, they just didn't make a ton of tackles.
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Speaker 1: Right, but they were they almost were asked to play
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more on the line, both of them at the times,
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than they were against the.
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Speaker 2: Candy Campbell on the line, you know, bonn Uh. It'll
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be interesting to see how that plays out going forward,
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because mostly we've seen Bond going back to last year
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be you know, move onto the line. Now Campbell is
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the guy who's they're putting on the line of scrimmage.
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Both can do it right. Great.
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Speaker 4: One thing, I'm just gonna have this one guy I
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thought played better and I'm interested to see what you
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thought because I thought Jaelex Hunt was very quiet Week one.
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Speaker 3: What do you think of him?
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Speaker 2: This week. Well, it's funny. I think I made a
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note that on the second play of the game, he
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showed some knock back power in the run game right
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away versus left tackle Simmons. I'm sure they've worked on
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that with him because that's not you know, he didn't
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grow up doing that. Adam, as you know, wasn't. He
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wasn't that kind of player. He was a career. Yeah,
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I mean that's that second play of the game was
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run play. I mean, he just knocked back Simmons. You
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could see him Simmons head snap right back. So you know,
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I think as you've talked about, which I think is
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one hundred percent true, and you've made the point at him,
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he's not quite ready to be a pass rusher where
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you just line him up and go get the quarterback.
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I'm sure that's one reason that brought to Darius Smith
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in That's one reason Uch is going to still get
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snaps in Pact. I would think that Hunt will be
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able to do that. It's just going to take a
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little more time. It's a process. It's an evolution over time.
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Speaker 1: Sure. So last thing before we get to the breakdown
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some of the clips you've talked about some of these already,
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so it's good. We're always I like when we're on
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the same page, Greg, when you sort of isolate some
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plays and I've already because people don't know, we don't.
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Speaker 2: Like, no, we don't really plan this. We just kind
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of talked ball.
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Speaker 1: I try to. I sit at my computer with my
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own you know, NFL protein, and I'm like, what do
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I think Greg really wants to highlight? And good enough,
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we got some, so that's good. But I do want
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to ask you this because we talked in the pregame
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show about the fact that the Chiefs have tried to
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address their left side of the line issues. I mean,
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the kid in the first round. You saw his athleticism
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when he chased chased down mccoopa to make the tackle.
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Josh Simmons uh and Sue Ama at left guard he's starting.
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He's he's clearly a better athlete and stronger than the kid,
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the guy that were playing there right Kingsley. By the way,
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he's not actually impersonating a left guard. He actually is one,
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right now, Sue.
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Speaker 2: My Well, my guess is Chiefs fans might have thought
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in the Super Bowl he was impersonating on left guard.
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Probably you know, I hate kind of came out, you know,
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for this, people.
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Speaker 3: Of Greg said, Greg doesn't have a sense to hear me.
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You just saw it breaking.
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Speaker 1: But I still felt that Mahomes, even though there was
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there were good pressures, I felt Mahomes played as if
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he didn't trust his protection. I felt that there were
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some throws that were wide or high at the ankles
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that he normally might make in other years. But he
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just looked like his own clock was a little bit spetter.
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Speaker 2: And I think he could probably say that going back
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the last couple of years. Yew. I'm not a quarterback.
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I've never been in that situation. I've never taken shots
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or gotten hit on the blind side. So I'm not
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going to sit here and say that's good or bad,
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because you know, I couldn't speak to that. I think though,
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that coaches would probably say that at some point we
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got to work through that because otherwise you don't have
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a pass game, or which they really haven't had, you know,
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a consistent one. You know, Mahomes is always capable of
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making special plays. I mean, look what happened in this game.
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All of a sudden, after a game in which their
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pass game really gained no yards either. He hits Thornton,
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you know, Thornton for the long touchdown, although he missed
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him earlier in the drive, which you never see Mahomes
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miss like that when Thornton was wide open, which I
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thought was a mistake by the coverage. We don't need
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to get into what I thought, because I could be right,
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could be wrong, but you know, and I thought Mahomes.
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Mahomes has missed some throws, more than we've seen over
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the last year or so. But again, I'm not going
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to sit here, you know, because I've never been back there,
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you know, having to worry about that. Hey, I only
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have three seconds where I'm going to get the crap
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beat out of me. So I'm not going to say
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that Mahomes is right or wrong. But they've got to
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figure that out because otherwise they're not going to have
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a consistent pass game.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, and it may not kill Andy Reid
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every once in a while. As we start to look
20:33
at the all twenty two here, maybe it wouldn't kill
20:35
him to, I don't know, leave his running back in
20:38
for past pro every once in a while. So this
20:40
is the place.
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Speaker 2: See, this was the one where they shifted into a
20:44
bear front, so they'd eat up the two guards and
20:47
the center and there'd be nobody to block Zach Bond
20:50
hitting the a gap. You can see it. This is
20:55
exactly what is in this the play yeah, this is the.
20:57
Speaker 3: Play, yep, Greg land a baarfront please.
21:00
Speaker 2: So bare front means that you're taking your two uh well,
21:04
your most interior defensive tackle, and you basically line him
21:08
up either right over the center or just shading the center,
21:12
and then you take your two the two tackles I
21:15
guess should call them outside of him, and they pretty
21:17
much are lined up over the two guards. So the
21:22
guards in the center have to block those three guys. Right. So, now,
21:26
if your back is going to free release and you
21:29
shoot a guy into the a gap from the second level,
21:32
there's no one to block him because the center and
21:34
the two guards at him are eaten up by the
21:37
three defensive linemen. I remember they shifted to this, and
21:40
as soon as they shifted to this, Jeff I said
21:43
to myself, the bond's coming. I've just seen it too
21:45
many times.
21:48
Speaker 1: And there's so there's there's the five guys on the
21:50
line now with I think it was Campbell that came
21:52
up to the line, like you said, right right.
21:53
Speaker 2: Right, So so in a sense, also, Adam, you have
21:56
what they call you know, it's five. It's it's five protection.
22:00
That's what every team calls it. Five zero pass protection
22:03
where your five offensive linemen are responsible for the five
22:08
innocentse defensive lineman. Let's count Campbell in this front is
22:11
a defensive lineman on the edge. So if the back releases,
22:15
which he did, there's no one to block Zach Bond right.
22:18
Speaker 1: And part of this is the knowledge Vic has that
22:21
most people who study inur Reid is that this running pack,
22:23
because Andy Reid wants five outlets, is not going to
22:26
stay in to protect. So that's going to allow him
22:29
to send more rushers than they have.
22:32
Speaker 2: Blocker or this is the classic case. Guys, you know
22:36
you hear all. We've all heard for years and years
22:39
and years. Fans have heard it. When you hear people
22:41
say they attack the protection and broke down the protection.
22:44
There's a great example of that. They can't. They can't
22:47
block Zack Baond in this in this protection with the
22:49
back that's the checko free releasing, you can't block Zach Bond.
22:53
Speaker 1: Right because the offense, the tight end doesn't stay in either.
22:56
So it really gives you five on right, five five
23:00
on five, but you got three guys blocking two on
23:03
the left side because of the protection scheme.
23:05
Speaker 2: And sometimes teams do this kind of stuff and they'll
23:07
drop out defense, you know, the edge guys, but you
23:11
can't change your protection in the middle of the plate.
23:13
Speaker 1: So it still works, right, And just so we get
23:16
a little different viewpoint on it here.
23:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, see they see the shift. You see Campbell kind
23:24
of call the shift right, you see. Yep. As soon
23:29
as I saw that, I said, Bond's coming.
23:31
Speaker 1: Right, and look, you got three guys blocking two.
23:35
Speaker 2: Trey Smith kind of recognized it late. You know, it's
23:38
not his that's Bond's not his responsibility. He just, you know,
23:41
try to at least give him a shove, but he couldn't.
23:44
Speaker 1: Right and honestly, and so when you get a quick
23:47
slant that's open, that should be pitch and catch, and
23:51
it becomes an incompletion And I believe that was third down,
23:53
was it not? I was second and eleven, Second and.
23:56
Speaker 2: Eleven, okay, yeah, but I mean that should be you
23:59
know that that's pitching catch. But but because of the pressure,
24:02
it was incomplete.
24:03
Speaker 4: Greg One thing I thought watching it is that Fangio
24:08
knew without Racie rights, but without Worthy, you're taking away
24:11
to his top four pass targets. There's a certain way
24:14
you can play when you know certain guys will not
24:16
be there. I know Rice is not a speedster, but
24:18
he's a top possession receiver they have.
24:20
Speaker 2: He has a great feel for space.
24:23
Speaker 3: And then you've got Worthy, who I know.
24:25
Speaker 4: I know how much they thought he and we'll see
24:27
what happens because he could come back the next couple
24:29
of weeks. But they thought he had a really good
24:30
off season. Who could absolutely fly. He had Taekwon Thorne,
24:35
who could run. You know he could run, no doubt.
24:37
He could run too, obviously, but he's not the strongest
24:40
guy in the world. He didn't do anything with New England.
24:43
That's why they cut him, so that he I think
24:45
that you have an you have an agent, Kelsey. To
24:47
be honest, I felt like Vic felt he could do
24:50
some things he hadn't. He didn't have to worry about
24:51
a lot of great pass targets.
24:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just go like like the Super Bowl.
24:56
I think Vic felt that there were certain areas he
24:58
could exploit, and he exploited it. I mean, that's it's
25:01
as simple as that. I mean when I say it's
25:03
as simple as that, that's the starting point. I don't
25:05
mean it's simple. Anybody can do it, but I mean
25:07
I think that's the starting point and you work from there.
25:10
Speaker 1: All right. So that was one example of what we
25:12
call a free rusher. And here's another. The fair the
25:15
play you referenced the Andrew the blitz. This is the
25:18
sack and the blitz by mccooba in the sack.
25:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe this was dying. This was not Nickel.
25:24
I believe this was dying because Sidney Brown, I believe
25:26
is playing on the back end. They're in two shells
25:30
because mccooba is is in an overhanging position to the
25:33
trip side the passing strength. And see this is where
25:36
Jalen Carter is lined up at right defensive tackle as
25:40
opposed to the left where he normally lines up right.
25:43
So what you're going to get here is you're going
25:45
to get mccuba blitzing. And because the center Humphrey Creed
25:50
Humphrey is a very good center. See before you run it, Jeff,
25:53
let's just walk through it. Or actually we'll go to
25:55
the end zone.
25:55
Speaker 1: You have to say the other angle will be good,
25:57
So we'll give him this the show free rusher.
26:01
Speaker 2: And Brady during the telecast was actually surprised that Mahomes
26:05
did not see this and recognize it. So I'm not
26:07
saying anything that you know. So obviously you know what
26:11
you're going to see here is there's Carter to the
26:14
to the right at that defensive right tackle. So now
26:17
the way the protection is mapped out, you're going to
26:19
have the five defensive linemen are going to be responsible
26:24
for the four down and probably bond here because we're
26:28
at Campbell's not in the box on this right. So
26:32
that's what's going to happen. So what you have is
26:34
the right guards responsible for Jordan Davis, the right tackles
26:37
responsible for Nolan Smith, and with Humphrey sliding to our
26:43
right the left of the of the offense to help
26:46
with Carter, that means there's no one unless the back
26:50
is going to get involved across the formation. There's no
26:53
one to block Macouba right. And you see, I'm just
26:57
telling you what Brady said. He's a lot smarter than
26:59
I am when to come to about play. He said
27:02
that that you know, Patrick's got to got to recognize this.
27:05
Speaker 1: I mean, mccooba does kind of tip the hand. I mean,
27:08
you see him come in.
27:09
Speaker 2: But he's trying not to. He's trying to show that
27:11
he's involved. In coverage too.
27:13
Speaker 3: True, but you've got to be aware of him.
27:15
Speaker 1: Maybe it should have tipped him off. And this might
27:17
be extra cerebral that Jill and Carter is lined up
27:21
over left guard instead of right guard right, because that's
27:24
where the double team, as you mentioned, is going to go.
27:27
They're automatically The other interesting.
27:29
Speaker 2: Thing here and I don't know if I'm getting into
27:31
you know again, I don't know what Tom Brady would say,
27:34
but they're in dye, which is they don't play very
27:36
often at all. So why is mccooba there and not
27:39
on the back.
27:39
Speaker 1: End right right? And there you go, so you're not
27:43
there for his health.
27:44
Speaker 2: He's not there on that piece of grass.
27:47
Speaker 1: Right, So you got one on ones Greg, as you
27:49
set up all on the outside here and on the
27:51
inside here where it's Jordan Davis and not Carter the double.
27:55
Speaker 2: I actually think Jordan Davis almost screws up. I think
27:57
Jordan Davis should have gone a little more inside on
28:01
his instead of look at how much of christ Smith.
28:05
I think he should have attacked half a man to
28:07
the inside. But that's just me. He almost Crewcuba skipped
28:12
over his foot.
28:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, unless unless the Macoba was supposed to go
28:17
with out the middle of the gap. Right. I actually
28:20
thought he was when I watched it, and just he
28:22
just took his own path. But either way he gets
28:25
there and once again you got two guys blocking one
28:28
and one guy free to the quarterback. Right, great stuff?
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and support the show. Well, let's watch another one that
30:02
you have referenced today. Now, this is the big stop
30:05
that mccouba makes on third and one.
30:07
Speaker 2: Oh, this was phenomenal because he's matched up against a
30:11
wide receiver here. Okay, they're playing cover one here, and
30:15
because it's trips, you know they have him because Kelsey
30:19
I think is split up top is he not? Or
30:21
down below?
30:22
Speaker 1: No, Kelsey's here right slot. Yeah, he's in the right slot.
30:26
I think mccooba, like you said, is over the passing
30:28
strength side.
30:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, mccooba's to the passing strength side. So he's matched
30:31
up on Hollywood Brown and they're playing cover one, so
30:33
he's got to play brand. By the way, Micooba does
30:35
have slot experience, so this is not as if he's
30:37
never done this before, right, And you know the way
30:41
they run these routes, it's it's, you know, it's got
30:43
a little bit of a mesh el I mean, so
30:44
he's got to go over the top because he can't
30:46
really go underneath because he just run into Bond.
30:49
Speaker 1: He's kind of in.
30:50
Speaker 2: Position to be a lark spy defender, you know, because
30:54
this was third down and mcooba does a phenomenal job
30:59
of you know, here's where some speed comes into play,
31:02
and he does a phenomenal tackling job because now this
31:05
becomes fourth down. This was just a really good play.
31:09
Speaker 1: Do you know what this player reminded me of a
31:10
little bit.
31:10
Speaker 2: Greg Don't tell me Cooper de gene against Cincinnati a
31:13
few years ago.
31:14
Speaker 1: One hundred is what I thought on fourth and one.
31:17
Speaker 2: Yah tapped into my head.
31:21
Speaker 4: Remember on that play it was it was Rogers and Cooba.
31:28
Speaker 3: They had some gene Gene I'm sorry, but I know
31:33
there was some pre snap.
31:34
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they had it about it.
31:36
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, there to go and then yeah, right.
31:40
Speaker 4: You see mccooba hit his right thigh. Maybe that was
31:43
a signal or something. I don't know.
31:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, but this Yeah, Now, as soon as
31:46
you said they reminded me of I thought of that play.
31:48
It bobbed right into my head. But that was a
31:50
great play by mccooba.
31:52
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, they are really well coached. I
31:53
know the players give them credit that they're doing great,
31:56
but they're.
31:56
Speaker 2: You know what's funny. The more tape i'm watching now,
32:00
not just to the Eagles, you know, of all teams,
32:02
I am such becoming even more and more believe in coaching.
32:06
And I always was, but I just feel like it's
32:09
so so critical for you know, there's a lot of
32:13
good players in the NFL. There's a lot of good players,
32:15
I mean, you know, and particularly you know, being at
32:19
the Titans training camp this year for three days and
32:22
just I mean, these guys, there are athletes that they're
32:24
just on. These guys are unbelievable, the size, the movement,
32:28
there's so many good athletes. So much of this is coaching.
32:31
Speaker 1: Right, You've got a great combination there of coaching the
32:34
right call and then an athlete like Macouba who can
32:36
come over and make that play. All right, you mentioned
32:39
Moro Ajomo. We'll take one last look here on defense.
32:42
That looks like an overloaded alignment there.
32:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying, oh the sack to start. Yeah.
32:48
I didn't write the detail on this. It started the
32:51
last drive drive, so I think it's first down.
32:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right. It was first down, and that's
32:56
that was critical because this was voted.
33:00
Speaker 2: They have three defensive linemen to one side of the
33:02
offensive center. It's a loaded front.
33:04
Speaker 1: Right, and then you see Nolan Smith sort of wide here,
33:08
but the way they rush there, he goes pushing them back. Yeah,
33:15
I mean that was just a very powerful power rush.
33:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:19
Speaker 1: Rush. So let me ask you this. You're the chiefs, right,
33:22
you see it's overloaded. So when you're the left guard
33:25
Suamayataya and the left tackle Simmons and even Humphrey here,
33:29
what is the thought process you got to expect? Usually
33:31
some kind of twist or a stunt.
33:33
Speaker 2: You would think you they didn't here, but you almost
33:35
always get a stunt concept from a loaded front. They
33:39
did not. Now, very often what teams do, which the
33:42
Eagles did not do here because this was fourth quarter,
33:45
was it not?
33:45
Speaker 1: It was I think opening drive.
33:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So very often what teams do is they
33:50
walk up a linebacker on the ball across from the
33:54
guard opposite the load so that means that guard can't
33:58
help with the loaded side of the front because there's
34:01
a guy right in front of him who theoretically could
34:03
come right. He didn't do that here, so he goes
34:06
to the load side. Yep, yeah, which he should because
34:09
there's no one in front of him, and you know,
34:11
and therefore you go one on one with your left
34:13
tackle and Nolan Smith, which is fine.
34:15
Speaker 1: Right, You're right. A lot of times, even if you're
34:17
not gonna sit, you'll walk this linebacker here and then
34:20
drop him at the last second so that the left
34:22
guard is still the left guard is still rolling.
34:25
Speaker 2: Acknowledge him. You know, you try to occupy the left
34:28
guard so that he can't get involved, because you know
34:30
what a lot of teams do. The Niners are great
34:33
with this with Bosa is what are called long stunts.
34:36
So they have Bosa being on the outside of the
34:40
load side, looping all the way around into the a
34:43
gap and you make sure you eat up that left guard,
34:47
the guard opposite the load, so he can't slide inside
34:50
right right.
34:52
Speaker 1: So Ojomo goes head onhead with him and really just
34:54
drives him back. Use those long arms. We talked about
34:57
his long arms and his power, and I actually I
35:00
think Nolan Smith plays a big he does actor and
35:02
has played because he makes Mahomes have to walk.
35:05
Speaker 2: Up into it to step up, and he.
35:07
Speaker 1: Doesn't rush too wide, which we talked about last week.
35:11
Speaker 2: With the look at him bend a little here, This.
35:13
Speaker 1: Is good, great bend. Look at that bend.
35:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at it. It's like a picture you know
35:17
when they you know, get it's like Tom Stever. I
35:21
know I'm going back one hundred years.
35:24
Speaker 1: But think about it. If he doesn't bend like he
35:26
has to come up up north instead of east west,
35:29
then Mahomes probably has an alleyway to run as right gets.
35:33
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35:36
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35:39
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was good, good, good, really well really absolutely I thought
36:53
that that was good. Those clips showed sort of not
36:55
just the individual talent of a Joe Moore and mccuba
36:58
or Nolan Soon, but how VIC is using these guys
37:01
and their athleticism to cause confusion for the opponents and just.
37:04
Speaker 2: A totally different game plan approach was just you know,
37:07
I mean, cook Fick's been doing this forever. You know,
37:09
that's you know, it was just great. I thought as
37:12
I'm watching it, I'm you know, that was one of
37:14
the first things I noticed. It was just different.
37:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well that is I'm sorry.
37:19
Speaker 4: I know what, Greg, just a preview when we talked
37:21
about Stafford for a pregame show. Stafford look pretty good
37:24
the first two games.
37:25
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they do so many cool things. Now that's
37:28
a challenge. I mean, look, they played him twice last year.
37:31
You know, it's the same coaching staff, but it's always
37:33
a challenge. Stafford's just really good and mcveigh's really good.
37:36
You know. Mcveay is going to have some stuff too. Yeah,
37:38
that's just it's two really smart guys.
37:41
Speaker 1: You know, giving him DeVante Adams to go with the
37:44
crew and like get Yandy to a baby man. That
37:46
was that's not fair. Yeah, all right, great stuff. That
37:50
wraps up the offensive tape of the eagles twenty seven
37:53
to twenty to seventeen win over the Chiefs. In part two,
37:56
I'm sorry, that's the defensive take tape. Part two are
38:00
gonna we are contractually obligated have Greg break down the
38:05
offensive tape, and we'll do that in part two. So,
38:07
for Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan, I'm Jeff Mosher. Thanks
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for watching Inside the Tape with Greg Cosell.