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Bonnie McFarlane Proves Women are Funny · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: real conversations in a new language today. Welcome back to Misunderstood.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rachel Yucatel. When I lived in New
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  Speaker 1: York City, one of my favorite things to do was
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  Speaker 1: go see stand-up comedy. I saw today's guest one night,
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  Speaker 1: and she blew me away, and I couldn't be more
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  Speaker 1: honored that she came on my podcast. The incredible Bonnie
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  Speaker 1: McFarlane has been performing and writing comedy for decades.
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  Speaker 2: She's funny. She's smart. She's sweet. She's gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm so lucky I get to call her my friend.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about her book, her documentary, her podcast. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: what doesn't she do? She opens up about her friendship
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  Speaker 1: with Anthony Bourdain and tells us which comedian she thinks
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  Speaker 1: is on the rise. If you've ever wondered what it
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  Speaker 1: takes to be a comedian, you're going to hear it now.
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  Speaker 1: Sit back, relax, and listen to Bonnie McFarlane.
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  Speaker 2: So welcome to the show, Connie. It's an honor and
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  Speaker 2: a pleasure. It's an honor.
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  Speaker 3: To be here, Rachel. Your guests are so huge. I
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  Speaker 3: can't believe you have me on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, come on.
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  Speaker 1: So we met through our mutual friend and comedian, Sherrod Small.
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  Speaker 1: And when I saw you on stage, I thought you
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  Speaker 1: and your husband, who had also been performing that night,
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  Speaker 1: were so good. And I just felt like I was
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  Speaker 1: sitting with the biggest celebrity when I got to hang
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  Speaker 1: out with you after that. And it was just so
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  Speaker 1: fun for me. So it's, it's really, I'm just so
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  Speaker 1: excited to be talking to you. And you had told
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  Speaker 1: me that night about your book. I went home, I
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  Speaker 1: went on Amazon, I ordered it. And, um, when I
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  Speaker 1: moved down to Florida, I had started it, but then
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  Speaker 1: when I moved down to Florida, I was like, wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute. I, and I brought very little things with
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  Speaker 1: me and I brought your book and it just, I
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  Speaker 1: went through it so quickly and I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: just amazing.
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  Speaker 3: So, Thank you so much. That's like so thrilling. When
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  Speaker 3: you sent me that picture of you reading it, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is so great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I had a question from reading your
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  Speaker 2: book though.
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  Speaker 1: So right off the bat, you start talking about your
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  Speaker 1: childhood and how awful it was in Canada and how
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  Speaker 1: you had no running water and no electricity for a while.
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  Speaker 1: And you had to, you know, hang out with cows
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  Speaker 1: and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So is that real or was that because you're.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, it's all real. It's so weird, Rachel, because
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  Speaker 3: it feels like it happened to somebody else. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: look at me. I mean, I'm like living normal life now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but it- And at the time I really
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  Speaker 3: felt like I'd been born into the wrong family. Like
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  Speaker 3: this wasn't supposed to be happening to me, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but when looking back on it, I go, what a
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  Speaker 3: gift that I got, you know, nobody ever gets to,
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  Speaker 3: very few people get to grow up like that. Like
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  Speaker 3: in a, you know, it was just like back to nature, man.
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  Speaker 3: It was like camping all the time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm curious, were you, did people think you
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  Speaker 1: were funny as a child? Did your parents actually think
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  Speaker 1: you were going to be a comedian?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about that. My mom did tell
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  Speaker 3: me one time that I should write advertising because the
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  Speaker 3: ads on TV weren't very funny and I was funnier
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  Speaker 3: than that. So, I mean, maybe they didn't have an
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  Speaker 3: idea of what was possible for someone like me. Um, but, uh, No, I, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I was always funny. We didn't have like, we didn't
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  Speaker 3: even get television until I was, I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: how old I was when we got television. And it
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  Speaker 3: was so random, like when we would actually get like
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  Speaker 3: a TV channel, you know, because we were so rural.
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  Speaker 3: And this was like before people had like, you know.
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  Speaker 3: there just wasn't any cable or anything out there. There's
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  Speaker 3: just nothing. So sometimes we could get a channel. Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: we get the French channel. It came in much clearer
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  Speaker 3: because we're in Canada and we'd watch that and we
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  Speaker 3: didn't know French, but so it was like, everything was
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  Speaker 3: like open and accessible and like, you could make fun
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  Speaker 3: of things and you didn't know what, I remember seeing
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  Speaker 3: like Monty Python for the first time and just being
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  Speaker 3: blown away. Just being like, what is this? This is
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  Speaker 3: so amazing. I know.
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  Speaker 1: So it wasn't like you had people that you were
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  Speaker 1: enamored with as a child. You just, that was innate
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  Speaker 1: in you. Like your humor, your way of looking at
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  Speaker 1: things must have been different and something you were born with.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so. I, you know, I just, we
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  Speaker 3: had so, there were so many chores. We had 10
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  Speaker 3: acres of garden. We had cows. We had chickens. And
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  Speaker 3: so there was so much like work to do without podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: That you just were in your own head thinking about stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I was writing funny stories all the time and
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  Speaker 3: like coming up with funny scenarios or little jokes. Or
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  Speaker 3: one time for Christmas, I got a, like a hand puppet.
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  Speaker 3: And so then I would do these, you know, concerts
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah. with these shows for my family, with
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  Speaker 3: these puppets and stuff. And no, it was just always
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  Speaker 3: really like thinking about jokes, although I didn't think of
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  Speaker 3: them as jokes at the time, but these little like
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  Speaker 3: funny scenarios. And my dad really got a kick out
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  Speaker 3: of me. So that was fun to like make him laugh.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I went, like my mom would always be like,
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  Speaker 3: you take it too far. Like it always ended in
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  Speaker 3: some kind of fight, you know? Right.
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  Speaker 1: You were the first with cancel culture up there, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: with your family, which we'll.
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  Speaker 2: Get to later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Tell everybody how that translated to you actually deciding, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is jumping forward, but that you wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: a comedian and you wanted to try stand-up.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to be a writer because I remember
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  Speaker 3: the first time I wrote a scene of my family
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  Speaker 3: with my family characters and I wrote, and it was...
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  Speaker 3: it made me laugh so hard. This little scene that
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  Speaker 3: I wrote and my dad came into my room and
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  Speaker 3: he was like, what are you laughing at? And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, nothing, but I don't know why I captured
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  Speaker 3: my family so perfectly, but just slightly heightened that it
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  Speaker 3: really made me laugh. So then I was like pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure from that moment on that I wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: a writer. Like that was a good experience. And then
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  Speaker 3: I just, I moved to Vancouver and I was just
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  Speaker 3: sort of like flailing around and thinking like, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to write a novel or something. I'm going to try
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  Speaker 3: to write something. And I was working in advertising at
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  Speaker 3: the time. I'd taken my mom's advice, I guess, and
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  Speaker 3: was writing these freelance advertising, which was not like exciting
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  Speaker 3: to me. And then I found standup and I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is what I'm meant to be writing. So then
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  Speaker 3: I thought I'll write comedy for people. And everyone was like, that's,
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're Canadian comics. We're not paying anyone for jokes.
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  Speaker 3: It just wasn't a good business model. Right. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: everyone that was really cool and nice and just kept
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  Speaker 3: convincing me to do it. And I was kind of shy.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think I wanted to be in the spotlight
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  Speaker 3: at all. Right. But then I just started doing it.
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  Speaker 2: And what was the first time you ever did stand up?
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  Speaker 2: What was that like?
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  Speaker 3: So that was really scary, but I did very, very well.
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  Speaker 3: And the first... little while that I did stand up,
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  Speaker 3: I had this weird thing in my head where I
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  Speaker 3: pretend in my own head, I was a famous comic
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  Speaker 3: so that I could get on stage and do it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like a weird thing that happens. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: you're tricking the audience or something. Cause I would get
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  Speaker 3: standing ovations and stuff. Like, yeah, it's like, I remember
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  Speaker 3: a comic going, that's not supposed to happen. He was like,
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  Speaker 3: you're an opener. But yeah, it was, it was like
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  Speaker 3: for a while it, I would bomb and stuff, but
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  Speaker 3: I got so much work. I was just, and I
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  Speaker 3: would get like, I mean, it was Canada, but I would,
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  Speaker 3: I won a contest and get these little Canadian TV
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  Speaker 3: spots and stuff. And then I was like, I'll just
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  Speaker 3: move to the States.
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  Speaker 1: But I think for people that like, are afraid of
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  Speaker 1: talking in public. They can't even imagine what that is
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  Speaker 1: like to have to get in front of an audience,
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  Speaker 1: try out your material that maybe you've had in your
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  Speaker 1: head for a while. So like, what was that like
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  Speaker 1: to go up there, do so well? And then I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming sometimes you were, as you said, bombing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the second time I really didn't do well at all,
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  Speaker 3: but then I sort of got back on track, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I bombed a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Um, is it addictive or it's really, really addictive.
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  Speaker 3: Like I, I think if I didn't do well that
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  Speaker 3: first time, I probably would have never done it again,
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  Speaker 3: but then you're just always chasing the dragon. It's so like,
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  Speaker 3: you get so worked up for it, you know, you're like,
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  Speaker 3: and then at some point that, the the adrenaline.
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  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful where did you end up going for.
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  Speaker 5: It this exclusive place that data's connections with they've more
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  Speaker 5: cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch what's it called it's.
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  Speaker 5: Dune ideal where dune ideal there's an accent on the e.
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  Speaker 4: Do you mean?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars.
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  Speaker 4: Lyft, please. You're going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: Done Deal Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: And the nerves and everything, they get so much that
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  Speaker 3: you just go, you just have to put it aside.
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  Speaker 3: You just have to be like, I mean, I'm in this,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like going on. They're calling my name. I have
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  Speaker 3: to go out. Like there's, you know, you just get
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  Speaker 3: to this point where you're just kind of like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't care. Like, kill me. I'm just going to do it.
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  Speaker 3: And then, um, and then when it goes well, you're,
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  Speaker 3: it's such a, it's like a roller coaster, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're like so scared and then it's so fun. And
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  Speaker 3: then when you get off, you're just like, I got
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  Speaker 3: to do it again. Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: And how would you characterize your kind of comedy?
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  Speaker 3: Um, I guess I like to talk about my real life,
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  Speaker 3: but sort of hooked into like a bigger sort of
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  Speaker 3: subset of societal ills, you know, and then, uh, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. It's like, it's, I don't know. It's so
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  Speaker 3: hard to describe. What do you think it is?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for you, when I watch you, it's
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  Speaker 2: like very dry humor. Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't even know if I'm saying this right,
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  Speaker 1: but to me, you seem very calm, cool and collect
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  Speaker 1: kind of dry. You don't really know until you know you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you don't really know where you're going with it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's so funny. You get so many laughs, but
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  Speaker 1: very kind of monotone.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's amazing. Sometimes I know this sounds
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  Speaker 3: like a brag maybe, but. I think I can't, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: I say things on stage and they get a big
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  Speaker 3: laugh and I can't even believe it. Like, cause I haven't,
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  Speaker 3: I haven't like... put any, like you said, like there's
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of inflection. Well, sometimes I do. It depends.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, but I love it when I can be
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  Speaker 3: really dry and they get it. It's like, there's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's part of the humor I think. Cause that's,
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  Speaker 1: it's very funny when you, when you say it like that.
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  Speaker 1: So for people that don't know you, would you say
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  Speaker 1: that for you and for comics, when you see a
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  Speaker 1: version of someone on stage, does that typically, um, is
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  Speaker 1: that part of who they are? Or do you think
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  Speaker 1: comics are completely different on stage and.
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  Speaker 2: No, no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know some comedians who are completely different
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  Speaker 3: on stage and off, but I would say for the
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  Speaker 3: most part, comedians are, that's who they are with a
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  Speaker 3: slightly heightened or performance value kind of thing going on.
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  Speaker 3: But for me, what I try to do, like what
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  Speaker 3: my goal always is to just be be exactly like
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  Speaker 3: I am now on stage, but telling jokes. Like I
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  Speaker 3: just want to get to the actual core essence of
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  Speaker 3: being me on stage. Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: And do you think that for someone to be a comedian,
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  Speaker 1: they have to have gone through some sort of trauma
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  Speaker 1: or molestation or something really awful in their childhood to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get up to talk about it?
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  Speaker 3: It helps. Well, you know why it helps? It's not
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  Speaker 3: really for the comedy because I think lots of people
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  Speaker 3: can be funny. It's that whole thing of like, where
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  Speaker 3: it's hard it's not hard work in terms of like
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  Speaker 3: yeah you sleep all day and you only have to
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  Speaker 3: work like an hour a night or whatever but it's
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  Speaker 3: hard in that there are so many times where you
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  Speaker 3: get on stage and it's like 300 people don't like
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  Speaker 3: you and you know then you have to go back
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  Speaker 3: and do it you know sometimes an hour later you're
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  Speaker 3: back doing it again you know or you're like So
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  Speaker 3: there has to be some kind of like toughness in you.
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  Speaker 3: You've had to have some kind of challenge in order to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like people can be mean. I've had sets
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  Speaker 3: where people are like, literally like, you know, you're not funny.
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  Speaker 3: Like get off the stage and you're like, well, I'm
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  Speaker 3: legally obligated to finish. Sorry. So. Yeah. Some, some hardship
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  Speaker 3: in your life. Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever come off the stage really depressed or
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  Speaker 1: really feeling like, like, has anything really backfired? Like, I
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  Speaker 1: know you've done Jimmy Fallon. You've done some really big shows. Like,
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  Speaker 1: has there ever been a time that you have really
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  Speaker 1: not done how you thought you were going to do
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  Speaker 1: and it really shocked you and affected you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Many times. Yeah. All the time. I think I'm
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  Speaker 3: a genius. I like drive to fucking stand up. Like
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  Speaker 3: this is the greatest joke that's ever been thought of.
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  Speaker 3: And then it got on stage and it's just like,
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  Speaker 3: you're like, Oh, you know, you're just like, what happened?
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  Speaker 3: Why didn't it go the way I did in my head? No,
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  Speaker 3: but I think that's like a side of a comic.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you're always, it's like, you're, you're too full
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  Speaker 3: of yourself with too low self-esteem. It's like, you're living
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  Speaker 3: these two, double things all the time, you know, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I've had definitely had shows where I go on stage
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  Speaker 3: and then it's just like, well, I've cried in my car.
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  Speaker 3: It's so funny. I had this female opener one time
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  Speaker 3: and she opened for me. She didn't do very well.
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  Speaker 3: And then she was crying and the MC had gone
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  Speaker 3: back on stage, you know? So I'm, you know, trying
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  Speaker 3: to feel better about her stat while they're, you know,
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  Speaker 3: introducing me. And then I got to go up. And
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  Speaker 3: then I told my husband that rich boss legend. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: he said, uh, he goes, I can honestly say that
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  Speaker 3: would not happen with men. I was like, maybe you're right. Like,
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  Speaker 3: would a man ever be like, it's so you're, you're
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  Speaker 3: hot and they're jealous. I got to go.
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  Speaker 2: The consoling part would just never happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Crying after a show or something. No, that's
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  Speaker 3: like all, that's all female, I guess. Yeah. Because my
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  Speaker 3: guys are like, I think like, it's not that guys
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  Speaker 3: are funnier than women, but they're just better kind of
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  Speaker 3: at not caring what people think.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: So in 2014, that brings up the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: did a documentary. It was called Women Aren't Funny.
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  Speaker 2: And you had some of the biggest male and female
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  Speaker 2: comics on there talking about whether or not they thought
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  Speaker 2: women were funny and the stigma of women in comedy.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I had just had a baby or well, I
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  Speaker 3: was touring, but then my my daughter turned two. So
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  Speaker 3: then I had to start buying a flight for her.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, fuck this, you know. And so
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  Speaker 3: I was getting tired of being on the road. So
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  Speaker 3: I thought I would do a different project. Um, so
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  Speaker 3: I tried to think of something that people would want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about, you know, something that I could like
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  Speaker 3: get some juice on. And so I, you know, people
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: always want to talk about if women are funny or not. So, um,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't really go in thinking like, I'm going to
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: prove something here. I just thought it could be a
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: funny topic that people could be funny about and wanted
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: to talk about. But, um, I kind of got sucked
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: into it too. Like I was suddenly like, wow, people
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: really don't think women are funny. Like, yeah. Depressing.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: It seems like that became the butt of the joke,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: kind of like that was really men were like, yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: none of you are funny.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, can you think of any funny women?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And they'd be like, not really. And you're like, hello,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: like I'm right in front of you. But yeah, it
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: was like there was comedians that I really looked up
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: because I always thought they were joking around, like busting
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: your balls. And they're like, women aren't funny, you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: like Sherrod would do. But obviously things are funny.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: But also there's a very small pool of like, when
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you hear of comedians, I mean, you can name so
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: many men and just a few women, but do you
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: think that's because so few women are going out for that?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: That are trying to make their life career be in comedy?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Or do you think that it's just much harder for them? Like,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: what is it like to be a woman in comedy?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's like, I think it's like a
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: perfect storm of everything. It's like, you know, first of all,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: like when, you know, it starts early, like you're not
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: rewarded for being funny, generally speaking. Like I was like, like, no,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: but we didn't have any other entertainment. They were like, Bonnie,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: do something, you know? So I was like, you know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: really rewarded for it from an early age. But I
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: think for a lot of what, like I, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: even I see, you know, you have a daughter that's
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: similar age. I think she's 16, right? So my daughter,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: her friends are so funny, you know, they don't even
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: know they're being funny. Like, Nobody goes, oh, my God,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: this is hilarious. You know what I mean? It's like
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: they're not rewarded for that. In fact, I saw one
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: mom saying, stop, don't you know, you're like, why would
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: you shut that down? You know, but and then. when
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: you get into it, it's like, it's just, it's kind
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: of hard to network in the same way that men
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: get to network, you know, cause you got to kind
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: of a little bit, be careful of men's feelings because
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: they think you're hitting them up for reasons other than
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: just getting stage time. You know what I mean? Like
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: if Mark Norman asks Joe list to get a set,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, sure. You know, but if a woman
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: asks a guy, it's like, suddenly there's like, There's other
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: factors at play.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: It's Dune ADL.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Dune ADL.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: There's an accent on the e do you mean yes
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: i got it on done deal cars lift please you're
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: going past kimaj oh kimmage no done deal cars you
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: couldn't possibly go anywhere.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Else and that's not right or wrong it just is
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: what it is you know And then, so that makes
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: it a little bit tricky sometimes being, um, uh, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: wanting to, to be famous is like kind of seen
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: as something sort of ugly in women. Um, and then
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: when you go on the road, it's, you know, a
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: lot of the clubs are really like set up for men.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: It's been curated for a male audience. And, um, so
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: you have to work hard to, you know, I mean,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: this club owner told me one time that they go,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: who's on? And then if they just say any female name,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: they'd be like, who's the next guy you got on?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: You know? Wow. I know. You're like, really? So, which
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: is fine. It's like, you know, there are certain comedians
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: that if I hear it coming through, I'm like not
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: interested in going to see either. It's just that, um,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: they don't make it that easy for audience. Do you
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like an audience that might want
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: to come see a woman, they're, they're not, um, on
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the newsletter or whatever. They're not like, being promoted to. Right.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And, but do you think it's like the stigma that
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: women comedians are like only talking about getting their period
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: or about their kids or breastfeeding?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it has something to do
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: with that or.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Well, that's, that's just saying exactly what we're just talking about,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: which is that that's a male dominated audience. So men
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: are like, no, I don't want to hear about your period.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: In fact, they don't want to hear about anything about
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: women really. Cause they don't have to, they can go
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: see a male comedian. That's only talking about stuff that
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: they like talking about. Um, Um, and, and so, but
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: of course, if you're being hilarious about getting your period
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: and I'm in the audience, I mean, my friend, Annie
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Letterman has a joke about like, she goes, men hate
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: stuff about the, you know, hearing about women's periods. She goes,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: they don't even know about the diarrhea. So funny to me.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, any guy would be like grossed out, like
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that's terrible, you know? But it's not for them. You know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: every joke doesn't have to be for every fucking person,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: you know? So it's just that thing of like, where
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: that's just men saying what they like, but they're putting,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: they're framing it as not funny or funny, but it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: like really the quiet part is to me.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Right. Not saying that out loud, but then it's like,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: because I, And right now there's so much. That's the
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: thing about the Internet that sort of really helped people
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: other than it's helped white men also. But it's, you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: people who are not maybe typically would wouldn't do well
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: on the road are now finding audiences because they have
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: a way to promote without the club, you know. Right.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Meaning they could put out clips of segments, whatever, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: get people interested. I mean, I definitely have noticed new
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: comedians that I follow now because of their clips on
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: social media and I would have never paid attention to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: who they were.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Right. And they might not have ever gotten attention or
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: gotten good because it's like you need stage time to
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: get good. You need attention to get audience. It's like
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: these two things kind of like go hand in hand.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: And if it's a guy club owner, You know, he
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: probably likes a certain kind of man better than a
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: certain kind of woman just because it's more relatable to him,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: which is fine. He's allowed to have what he likes
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: and what he doesn't like. But, you know, in the
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: big picture, that does slow down the thing about, you know. Right.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Women getting ahead. And then the last piece of the
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: puzzle is that, you know, really 10, 12 years in,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: that's when you really start sort of getting steam and
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: stand up. It takes kind of a while. And if
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: you want to become like Andrew Schultz, probably has been
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: doing it 12, 14 years. It's like right around that time,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that's when women are like, oh, you know, I have
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: this biological clock ticking. Right. And so for me, when
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I had my baby, it was like that was one
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: of the things that I had to figure out. Like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: what am I like? Am I going to go on
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the road still? Am I going to just tire a nanny,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: never see my kids? or am I going to figure
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: something else out? Which I just was lucky because I
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: like writing and I, um, you know, I enjoy, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: enjoyed not being on the road. So, yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: So you met, so you know, both sides, because as
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, you are married to a male comic, um,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and so he's very funny and we all know him,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: but tell everybody your love story, how you guys met.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Cause I think it's so fantastic. Do you guys still
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: call it a love story anymore, by the way?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: We, we, we discussed the other night that we're both
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: falling in love. Finally, after all this time, just starting
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: to really like each other. No, he's a hard person
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to love. Like you've met him, right?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: He was like, but I love him, but I don't
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: have to live with him. I just get to laugh
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: So that's how he's, that is his saving grace is
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: that he makes me laugh all the time. So, um, Yeah.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So he was on a show called Last Comic Standing
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: and I had met all the people on that show
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: except for him. I didn't know who he was. And
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: one night I was at the comedy cellar and he
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: was I said to somebody who's going on and they said, oh,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Rich Boss is on next. And I was like, oh,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I haven't met him. So I went down the stairs
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and he was standing at the bottom of the stairs
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: waiting to go on. And he said, Oh, you're that
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: comic girl, which really like actually was felt good that
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: he knew that I was comedian and he recognized me.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: And then, um, he goes, so I talked to him
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: at the bottom of the stairs for a minute and
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: then he goes, I'd hit on you right now, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I'm on a date. And then he showed me the
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: girl who was like, she was in the showroom. He
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: showed her to me, a very attractive woman. And then
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: he went on stage and kind of bombed and, uh,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't bomb. He just wasn't doing it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I think he was trying too hard. You know, you
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: had two women there that were watching. So I left
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: halfway through and I knew that would upset him. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: he just, and then he just like tried in every
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: way to get in touch with me after that. He did.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: The owner or the booker of the cellar, Esty, she
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: called me and she was like, do you want me
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to give Rich Voss your number? And I was like, no.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: And she goes, that's what I thought.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. That's great.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So how long did you guys date before you got
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: engaged and got married?
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Um, well, I was living in Los Angeles at the time.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: After we got married, I kept my apartment for two years.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: That'll just tell you where I was at. Um, I
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm not going to jump into it. Um, No,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: we kind of just were sort of sexing it up
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: every once in a while when we'd be in the
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: same city. It wasn't really this like, you know, like,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I remember him one time being like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you've got to get rid of any other guy that
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you have. And then I did.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Before or after you were married?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: This was after. No, that's hilarious.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: See, I'm working on my script.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then I go to the apartment and we really, yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: hunker down.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Right, okay.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: So now tell me about what it's like for two
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: comedians to be in the same house. Are you guys,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I know you said he makes you laugh all the time,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: but are you guys practicing jokes on each other? Are
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you laughing all the time? What's that like?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we do a lot of, is this funny? And
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: then it's not good to do because we're very like
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: judgmental of jokes. the good thing is if they're like,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I'll think of it. I'll be like, he'll just say
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: stuff in regular conversation. That'll be like, you got to
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: do that in your act. You got to put that
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: in your act. And then later he'll call me like,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: what was that joke? He told me to put my act. Right.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So there's that kind of thing. But then sometimes we'll
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: be like, is this funny? And you're just sort of
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: dancing around this premise, trying to find the way in.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: And the other person gets tired of listening and, you know, no,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: that's not good. Stop, stop right now. I don't want
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: to hear the end of it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And then throughout your lives, you guys have obviously been
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: exposed to a bunch of different comedians, celebrities, that kind
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: of thing. What was that like all of a sudden
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: knowing that you are part of this group? I mean,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you are a famous comedian and you are hanging out
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: with people like Anthony Bourdain and all sorts of other people.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And I mean, it's just a testament to all the
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: people you got in your documentary. I mean, it was
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: everyone who's everybody.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So what's that like to know you're part of that crew?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: This is so interesting because... You know, when I got
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: to New York, it was like the same people were
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: the same people. It was like Dave Chappelle and Dave
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Attell and Louis C.K. And, you know, you just, I
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: don't know how.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: It's Dune ADL.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Dunediel? There's an accent on the E.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Do you mean.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Yes, I got it on Dundiel Cars.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Lyft?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Please. You're going past Kimmage.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, Kimmage.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: No.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Dundiel Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: It immediately started sort of hanging out with everyone. I mean,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I was... Is it a small community? What's that?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Is it a small community of people that kind of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: have always been the same circle and just made it together?
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know if those guys really
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: hung out. I guess they did a bit, but it
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: was more like you're just working at the same club.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: So you're in the same. And then, you know, they
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: just moved up, you know, and it's like they're still
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: the top of the New York comedy scene, you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: in a way. And it's interesting. But, yeah, I don't know.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I was very starstruck by Anthony Bourdain. And you ought
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: to hear a funny story about Colin Quinn. So I
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: went for lunch. So Anthony Bourdain just liked me and
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: my comedy and stuff. And so then he was the
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: one who published my book. And, um, he was just
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: a very, very supportive guy. And I wrote, um, his
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: stage shows for him and, and, um, wrote a lot
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of stuff for him. And, um, So we were having
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: lunch and he was like very interested in comedy. He,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: in fact, he did it once at the, he said,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: you know, what's the difference between me just going up
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: on stage, you know, doing these stage shows and being
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a real comedian. And I was like, well, you have
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: to do it every night. You know, you have to really,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: you know, these guys love it so much. They do
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: it all the time. And so he went to the
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: cellar one night and I got him a spot there
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: and he went on. I didn't go cause I didn't
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: want him to bomb. And then me be there like, Hey,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Apparently he did very well. So he was like obsessed
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: with Colin Quinn and he was like, is he really
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: like so funny? And, and I was like, yeah, he's great.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: He's like, you know, I would never say this to Colin,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: you know, to Colin, I'd say, I told him you
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: were an asshole. Right. Right. So I told Colin that
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Anthony Bourdain was a big fan. And then I guess
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Colin was on a show with him, maybe like Conan
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: or something. And so Colin went, to his dressing room
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: and was like, you know, it's like me, the guy
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you love. And I guess Anthony Bourdais was just kind
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: of like nonchalant about meeting him. Maybe he was trying
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: to call. So calling right after was like, were you
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: fucking with me? Which I think would be such a
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: funny thing to do to someone. Like just tell them
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: some celebrity was like, love them. Right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And then you show up and they're like, wait, who
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Do I even know who you are? Yeah.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. That's great.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: So Anthony wrote the foreword for your book. Obviously, as
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you said, was a big fan of yours. What was
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: that like when you heard that he died?
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Oh God, just shocking. And, and yeah, because it was like,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: he was probably the, like out of every single person
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I know on the planet, he would be at the lot,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: the very last person that I would think would take
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: his own life. You know, that just really was mind boggling.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Cause if you know him, he's very, it's like you
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: could see him getting depressed and getting angry and getting
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: upset about things, but that he's also super smart and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: super even keel and that he could, you know, sort
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: of talk himself out of it or something. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: It didn't seem, you know, so that was really hard. Very. um,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: emotional and he has a daughter and, um, you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: just very sad.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Very sad. Didn't, did you work with him on
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: parts unknown?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I did. Um, Rich and I did, uh, um, the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: New Jersey, he did New Jersey as an episode and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: we went and had pizza with him in New Jersey.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: And it's funny cause Jim Gaffigan found out Jim Gaffigan said,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: what is it called? Parts known. You know, it's like
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: all these people are going, you know, he's going to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: exotic places, but he did.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask you actually, do you
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: have like a moment that, that you witnessed or could
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you tell us something like, did he ever eat something relatable? Like,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: did you ever give him an Oreo for dessert or
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: go to McDonald's with him or something? Or is he
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: always eating some sort of giblet of chicken and whatever?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: He, literally never talked about food. Never. Really? No. And,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and when I wrote stuff for a state show, that's
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: all he just said, write anything about food, any jokes
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: about food or sort of related to food. But we,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: he never discussed anything that I wrote with for him.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Even he would just be like, these are great. Thank you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: And he never, um, we went out for lunch a
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: few times and, um, The one time we went for lunch,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: him and his agent and me, this was about the book.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: And his back was to the kitchen door. And he honestly,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: he was there before us. He was there early. And
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: he had a drink at the bar. And then we
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: moved to a table and he sat down. And it
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: was like he didn't know or he didn't care that
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: people knew. knew that he was there and liked that
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: he was there and people kept coming out of the kitchen.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: And there was a lot, cause I was sitting watching
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: the whole thing behind him, you know, he never turned around.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: He never looked around. He just, you know, and I
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: don't remember what he ordered that time. Maybe like the
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: fish or something normal. Right. Right. You know, and he
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: didn't know, he like, people are like, the chefs are probably.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Like, right. Do you think he realized he was such
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a big deal?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: He had to know he had to have known he
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: had to have known, but he never acted like it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: He never, he was just like a normal, nice like guy. Like,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: in fact, he was just so cool. Like I've always
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: felt a little, like I tried to kind of get
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: away from him in a way because I was scared
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: that I would say or do something that wasn't cool.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, cause he was so
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: nice and kind to me and gay, you know, he
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: was getting me this book deal and he was like,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I just didn't want to fuck it up.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say, you were just so
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: you were walking on eggshells. You didn't want to fuck
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So I was, and now I, I, that's
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: like a big regret that I didn't just like, he
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: liked me. I should have just been me and not cared.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And right.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I had such respect for him.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people did.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So I want to get to an important question for
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a comic. What makes somebody funny?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: It's such a good question. Well, authenticity, I think is
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: a huge part of it. Even if you're not telling
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: the truth on stage, like say like a Mitch Hedberg
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: used to just do sort of jokes, not autobiographical, but
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: he had such an authenticity that it was like fun
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: to watch him. It was funny. I don't know. It's
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: such a good question.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, like, can anyone learn how to do it?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Can you train someone how to take their experiences or
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: find something else that they want to you know, have
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: as their shtick kind of and train them to do
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: standup or is it just kind of something that's innate?
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Do you think? Well, I think you could probably train
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: someone to do standup if you had enough time and
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: they could go on stage, you know, although I know
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: people have been doing it there, you know, 25 years
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: and they're still not funny. So it's, you know, But
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's this thing of like the way your brain,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: if you can match up, if you can align the
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: way your brain thinks about something with the persona that
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the audience is seeing. Right. Then it's really much, much easier.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: So if you have like, if you're Louis CK, it's
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: easier for him to be funny now, not because he's
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: famous and they're like, I'll just laugh at anybody who's famous. Hmm. Um,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: because people won't laugh at it. They, they, they don't
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: care if you're famous. I mean, maybe in the beginning,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: but at some point they're like, yeah, but they know him.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: They know. Or a Bill Burr might be a better example.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Like they know that he's going to be mad about something. Right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: So it's easy to get on board right away with that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: You're like, okay, here we go. This is what he does.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: This is so funny. You know, they know who he
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: is and they know that's real and they know that's
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: authentic to him. Whereas maybe in the beginning when he
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: first started and he'd be angry, they'd be like, is
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: he really angry? Like really big, whatever, or, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: so that's why it's like harder in the beginning when
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: you're trying, you know, finding your own voice because it's hard.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: It's a hard thing to get the audience, especially in
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: three to five minutes. Sometimes when you're starting out, that's
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: all you get. And you have to get the audience,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: see who you are.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: And then everything else really is much easier, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: So what do you think about, have you.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: It's Dune ADL.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Do you mean.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Yes, I got it on Dune Deal cars.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Lift? Please. Please.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: You're going past Kimmage.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, Kimmage. No.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: Don't deal cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Notice that, you know, there are all these sort of.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Actors or reality stars who have not done so well
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: on their own platform, and they've decided they're going to
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: be stand-up comedians. It's kind of like these people that
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: are becoming late-in-life lesbians or something. They're just out of
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the blue deciding, I'm going to get into comedy. Is
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: that going to work for them? I mean, I've seen
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: people announce that they're going to do that. I haven't
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: ever really seen anyone go on tour.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I think, I mean, all through, even before, like,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: you know, TikTok and stuff, I've seen people who had
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: some kind of fame then try to parlay it into stand-up,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: you know, So it's, it doesn't work very often, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you something, Hannah Berner. Yeah.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I was going to bring her up.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Was on.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Summer house or summer house.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah. She, you know, and I think I
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: remember the first time I met her, I was like,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: here we go again, you know, but she's really funny.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: And I think it is because she's authentic. She's just
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: who she is, you know, and you really get that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And it's funny. And she's just, she's not trying to
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: be something. She just is what she is and she's
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: fine with it. So I think like, I think she's
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: going to do really, really well.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: She's an interesting one because she, you know, didn't do
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: so well on her show. I mean, she created a
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: lot of controversy. People were like calling for her to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: get kicked off the show. And, you know, you thought
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that was kind of end of her and she's really
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: taken off. And I think that's amazing. She really created
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: a name for herself and is doing well. So I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: commend her for that. It can happen.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: It can.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: You're right. It can happen.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: So you brought up Louis C.K. I wanted to talk
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: about cancel culture. I switched it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: To Bill Burr.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you did.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Why am I talking about Louis C.K.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: So listen, I feel like as an outsider again, we've
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: seen cancel culture come into play in the comedy world twice.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Obviously, we saw it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: During the Me Too movement with Louis C.K., with Aziz Ansari,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: with some other people. And that was obviously related to
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: sexual harassment issues, issues with women to me that, and
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I want to get your opinion on it, but that
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: seems more like a man in power position as opposed
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: to just in comedy. Cause that was just one arm
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of where all these guys were getting in, in trouble.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that had anything to do
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: with the comic world or you think it's just a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: man situation there?
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Hmm. Well, I mean, here's the thing is like, sometimes
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I think like there's over correct over correction, but at
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: the other, on the other side of things, it's like,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: it would be nice to go to work and not
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: have to worry about somebody trying to fuck you. You
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? It's like, okay. I mean, when
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I first started, there was, that was like a huge
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: part of like any interaction I had with a man,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: even if he was a club owner, you know, it
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: was like, you had to kind of like weasel your
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: way through this little uncomfortable part of things. I remember
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: this club owner saying like, um, I got your head
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: shot and I put it above my bed, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: or on my ceiling or something. And everyone was laughing
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: and I didn't even get it. I remember saying, what
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: was that about? And then this other comedian, he goes,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: you're going to jerk off to it. And I was like,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I know. And, um, you know, and I don't like,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I like dirty jokes and I like, sort of joking sexually, um,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: to a certain degree and stuff. But I do think
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: there is a thing with women that like, if you
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: joke sexually, people think they can actually have sex with you.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: So then you're, it's like, it's like, you just see the,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: you just see the grass is greener. If you're a guy,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: you can just go around and fuck around and have
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: fun and say what you want and do what you want.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: And there is something that's like, kind of like where
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: you yearn for that, you know, but, um, As far
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: as like the Louis C.K. thing, I think his his
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: thing is. Like he was gross, you know, but but
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: he he his shit came out at a bad time
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: That was like because people have done much worse since.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: And it's like it's almost like, well, that point in
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: time has passed.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Exactly.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And then I want to move to the next part
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: of where I noticed cancel culture in comedy, which was,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously brought to light during the Will Smith
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: slap where, you know, Chris Rock was on stage making
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: a joke, saying something he thought was going to resonate
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: or be funny. And somebody was physically violent with him
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: because they took it not as a joke.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So then that became an issue. You know, you see.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Like Dave Chappelle getting things thrown at him at the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Bowl or, you know, then it became when do
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you have to be sure you know what you're saying
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and people realize it's a joke or you're going to
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: offend somebody and then get canceled for being offensive when
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: you're comedians. Aren't you supposed to be able to say
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: things and have people know that it's a joke?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on that?
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like a really tricky situation. Like
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, it's weird because people do call
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: you out when you're on stage for stuff. Sometimes they
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: don't even finish hearing the joke. You're like, well, you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: sometimes there's irony involved. Sometimes you have to like give
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the comedian the like they're not going to say I'm
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: joking right now. You know, you have to assume that
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: they're joking because they're on stage in a comedy club. And,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I watch other comedians and I'm like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: like that's gross. Or they do some joke about somebody
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: who's mentally handicapped or something. You're like, eh, that's kind
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: of icky to me, but it's like, you know, they're
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: doing what they want to do. I don't know. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: just think like we could all be a little more tolerant.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I think comedians could also police themselves a little better.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: It's like, if you're really good at telling jokes, then
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: you don't have to concentrate on this one part. But
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I think some comedians just like that. They like the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: idea of being canceled. They, they get a lot of
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: juice out of that. They get more ticket sales out
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: of that. So.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: So do you feel like you've ever had to pull
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: back on what your sets used to be now because
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: things are so different?
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. I think, I think before you used to,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: like when you were on stage, people knew you were joking.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: So you could, you could say things, you could be,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: you could go, you could, you could really cross the
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: line because they would, would assume that you're joking. It's
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: not like everybody who laughed was like, um, you know,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: whatever anti, whatever thing you're saying, you know, they'd understand
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: that you're doing a character. It's not even a character.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: You're just joking. You're just saying the wrong thing. Cause
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: it's funny. And now you can't do that anymore. That's
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: just not a style of comedy that really works very well.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: And so I just don't, I don't, I mean, I, I, I,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I walk the line, but I don't really cross it
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: that much anymore, you know? Right. Unless I'm at somewhere
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: where I know that it's, like, going to be okay
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: to do. Yeah. But it's not worth it.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's not worth it for sure. Who do
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: you think is really funny right now?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Well, my friend Annie Letterman is hilarious, so funny. She's
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: got a solo podcast, and she's going to shoot a
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: special soon. She's very, very funny. I like Beth Stelling.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I think she's really funny. I don't know. Sherrod is
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: so funny. I mean, there's just certain people that you
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: like seeing come in to the club. I like everybody
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: that works at the stand. I just, I, I like
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: that community. I like those people. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And what about your thoughts about people who are not
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: necessarily in New York, like a Chelsea Handler or Heather
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: McDonald or, you know, people that have become sort of
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: pop culture icons more than, I mean, obviously they're standup comedians,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: but they're more invested in pop culture now too.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Right. Well, I like them both. And Heather makes me
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: laugh really hard. She's had some jokes that still stick
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: in my head from years ago. And yeah, I just,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: I like it. I like so many different kinds of
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: comedy and I, I like, I just like when people
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: aren't really taking themselves that seriously. Like that's my favorite
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: kind of comedy, you know? It's like when you're not
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: trying to make a point too hard or anything, you know?
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Cause I feel like now people are really like trying
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: to say something and it's like, sometimes it's like clunk clunk,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: you know? Okay.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Like, do you feel like people need to get on
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: stage and talk about things that are really heavy? And
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think that makes it like less,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: you know, interesting or people can take offense to those things.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: If you're talking about race and, you know, LGBTQ stuff and,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you know, people get so sensitive based on their experience, right.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: It could be tough.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Right. But then, but they're getting attention. So that's like,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: some people don't care how they get attention as long
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: as they're getting attention. And that's, so that's why they
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: go to those. And then I think other people think
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: they're going to be like, you know, some kind of,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: you know, deep, deep comic that's going to, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: like they're, they're trying to achieve legend status by talking
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: about abortion or something. It's like, right. We already have
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: a Doug Stanhope. We're fine. We're good on that. Yeah. Okay.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: So if somebody is listening, that is thinking that they
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: want to try it out and break into the world
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: of standup, what would be some tips and tricks or
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: suggestions from you?
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I would try, I would like, think about the
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: things that I want to talk about. I would Google
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: a bunch of comedians that I like and see how
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: they approach comedy and approach jokes and see how your
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: sense of humor would align or not align with theirs.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: And then I would just go on stage and try
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: it a couple of times and see. And the thing is,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: is that I wish I'd known this myself earlier. It's like,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: it's not important like at all. Like you think it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: so important to have a good set or to have
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: somebody think you're funny or how it's like one set
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: is not going to. There's it's, it's like, it's, you're
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: really committing to a lifetime of doing this, you know?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: It's like, right. You're going to get better. You're going
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: to have, you're going to have peaks. You're going to
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: have valleys when you wait, you're going to have a
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: set that works and you're never going to want to
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: give it up. And then at some point you're going
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: to be like, well, now I have to come up
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: with new jokes and then you're going to dip down
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: and then you're going to come up again. And.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And is that the way that you sort of try
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: out jokes, practice, see what works to get a real
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: set that then you could potentially use for like.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon or, you know, something like that? Like, how
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: are you preparing?
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I used to do it like that. I used to
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: think like, oh, this is good for TV or I
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: was always working on a set like, oh, here's my special. But,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: you know, now things move really fast. You know, like
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: if you have a joke that's in the news, it's like,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: get it, do the next six sets with it. And
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: then you got to kind of put it away, you know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: it's like harder and harder to have stuff that lasts
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: for a long time. So, you know, just keep writing
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: and doing it and being, you know, as real and,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: and new as you can be, I guess, up there.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Cause if you think you're funny, there's a reason that
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: you think you're funny. So even if like other people, like,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: even if you tell people I'm going to do stand
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: up and they're like, you're not funny. It's like, you
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: know what it is inside of you that you think
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: is funny. It's like, that's what you have to translate. Yeah.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm funny, but I would never
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: do standup.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: You are funny. You're very quick. You could do standup.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: You don't want to talk about.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, probably. I don't know that anyone would think it's funny,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I think it's funny. Now I can look back.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I've had my share of trauma that makes it.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You see, you could, you could do it. You've had,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: you've had enough trauma. Yeah.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And what's to say that people aren't going to steal stuff?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I've never understood how that works, where other comics aren't
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: stealing from others or complaining that something's been stolen.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Has that ever happened to you?
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. People have stolen my jokes. I don't care
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: that much. It's like, take them, use them, whatever. I
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: don't care. Because I just go through, I just do
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: new jokes. My whole thing is, the thing that makes
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: me happy is thinking of a new thought and getting
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: it on stage and having it work and making people
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: laugh with it. Um, I know people get really, really
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: mad about stealing jokes, but it's like some of it's
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: parallel thought. And also some of it is so like,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: if it's, it's like, won't work for someone else. Do
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Cause you're like, it's like
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: that thing where it's you, it's, this is your thought
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: about your life. It shouldn't work for anyone else, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: That's right. Um, okay.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: So you're, the last I heard your book was in development, right?
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Is that still happening?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: What's going on with the writer's strike and your situation?
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Tell me about that.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: So, well, we're, even though it's Canada and they can
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: work on it, they put a pause on it because
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: I'm in the guild and they don't want to like,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: you know, they want to be supportive, which I think
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: is great. Although it's a little frightening because we were
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: just rolling along and we had to pause it, but
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Hopefully the strike will end soon. I mean, I say
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: to myself every day, two more weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I know.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: It's got to be really hard for the people that
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: literally made their living doing that.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Like you're still doing standup.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: So that's, yeah. I mean, I feel really lucky because
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I have like a lot of different revenue streams because
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: I make a lot of money writing. And then, so
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: then when the strike happened, I just sort of pivoted
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: and started just doing more standup, you know, and we
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: have our podcast. So. Yeah.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: So tell people about your podcast. It's so funny. I mean,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I think the two of you, both of you are
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: very dry, right? So the two of you are so
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: funny together and you just talk about basically how much
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: you annoy each other. And it's like my favorite thing
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: to listen to. The clips are just so good.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Thank you. It's called My Wife Hates Me. And we
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: are just, we just took a little break because we
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: moved and stuff. And now, you know, we've never taken
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: a break. We have over 500 episodes So we took
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: a break this summer and I think like September 15th
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: or something, September 12th, I don't know. We're coming back
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: and we're going to, you know, my wife hates me 2.0
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: and we said, we're not going to argue anymore.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Wow. God, new season. Okay.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: It's all about the love story now. I can't wait
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: to see that. All right. Tell people where they could
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: find you doing standup.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm at the stand a lot, but I have,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. When does this come out?
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: The end of September.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: The end of September. I'll be in Skank Fest in
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Vegas last weekend in September. And then in October, I'm
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: at Mohegan Sun. So I don't know. You can just
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: go to my Instagram, Bonnie McFarlane, and my dates are there. Okay, awesome.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: And if anyone wants to reach out to you to
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: get advice, are you open to that?
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Do you read your DMs?
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: I do. Well, I don't read everything, but yeah, for
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: the most part, I'll respond. I'll respond at least once.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: But you know, it's so funny because I've been married
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: for so long. And then if somebody like, I mean,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: obviously if it's just a dude being like, I think. Yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Like I won't respond to that, but like, I don't
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: know if they're sliding into my DMS or do you
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like I'm just responding to people
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: and then I'm like, Oh, was I, am I flirting?
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't mean to. Sorry. Oh, wow.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Well, someday on your podcast, maybe you guys should read
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: your DMS and, and have rich see if he thinks
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: that's flirting or not flirting.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: That'd be funny.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: That's a good, yeah. We're not going to argue anymore, though.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: So we really can't do that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, you can do it in a way that
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: you don't argue. That would be even funnier.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: To be like, wow, you were flirting.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. I doubt it.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so my last question for you is where do
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you see yourself in the future that is a goal,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: something on your bucket list that you want to accomplish?
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I... been held up on this movie, but I've
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: been hired. I was hired to write this movie that
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I'm going to direct if that we could come back
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: from the strike. And so, I mean, that's all I
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: think about is directing a movie. I just love the
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: idea of that. Wow. All right.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's awesome.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: We have your, our fingers crossed for you. I'm so
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: happy to have had this conversation with you, Bonnie. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: hope everyone in, um, in person, cause you are just
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the funniest and, um, and I wish.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: You all the best.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I wish you all the best. Thank you so much
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: for having me on your podcast.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to Misunderstood. I'm your host,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Rachel Yucatel.
• 56:48
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• 57:06
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• 57:10
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• 57:15
  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: It's Dunaidial.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Where? Dunaidial.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: There's an accent on the E.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Do you mean.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Lift?
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, Kimmage. No.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.