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RHOA Tweets, Jersey Casting Deets, & LAMH Brings The Heat · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Peace of the planet. Charlamagnea god here.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into today's episode, we've got to celebrate
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  Speaker 3: It's turning five years old, man.
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  Speaker 2: Five years of powerful voices, unforgettable moments in the community
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  Speaker 2: Now let's get into it.
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  Speaker 4: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 4: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 4: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 4: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 4: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 4: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 4: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 4: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 1: First thing first, we have to get into the fact that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say alleged because that's the right thing to do.
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  Speaker 4: So look k Michelle, who is allegedly joining the Real
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  Speaker 4: Housewives of Atlanta. Although we've seen Ca Michelle, you know,
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  Speaker 4: being photographed with the ladies over the weekend, Cam and
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  Speaker 4: Shell's photographed with Juice, Doora Simpion, Bailey, Porsche, Pedra, Angela
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  Speaker 4: Oakley Shamia and Kelly Farrell in addition to this person
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  Speaker 4: a Pinky Cole, again not confirming that their housewives, but
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  Speaker 4: they were filmed together on a private jet. So just
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  Speaker 4: saying that now, Claudia and Dustin, I have to read
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  Speaker 4: to you guys a few tweets that happened over the
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  Speaker 4: weekend and I would love to get your thoughts. So
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  Speaker 4: on September fifth, at four fifty five am, e strand
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  Speaker 4: Ca Michelle tweeted, if it takes a group plot, a
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  Speaker 4: rumor or scheme to bring me down when I'm coming
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  Speaker 4: in love, you already lost in the game and lost
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  Speaker 4: in life, all right. At five thirty two am that
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  Speaker 4: same morning, Cay Michelle tweeted, you have to be a
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  Speaker 4: sick person to plot and scheme on someone who is
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  Speaker 4: minding their business.
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  Speaker 1: Claudia in Dustin, it doesn't stop there.
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  Speaker 4: The following after the next day, at twelve forty four pm,
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  Speaker 4: Cay Michelle said, welke.
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  Speaker 1: Up feeling blessed and loved.
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  Speaker 4: I love my family and I love my husband. I
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  Speaker 4: thank them for normalcy.
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  Speaker 3: Did normalcy?
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  Speaker 4: No fart, no dust it It's better. This is my love,
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  Speaker 4: cam Michelle. So that was at twelve forty four, Dustin.
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  Speaker 4: Two minutes later, Camy Shell wrote the fuck I don't
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  Speaker 4: get our budget.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish I cared more.
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  Speaker 4: Then we saw that allegedly Angela Oakley unfollowed Cay Michelle.
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  Speaker 4: There's a dispute on whether or not Angela Oakley was
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  Speaker 4: even following ca Michelle. However, those are the tweets, Dustin,
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  Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? Could Chemis Shell be
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  Speaker 4: talking about The Housewives, a show that allegedly has not
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  Speaker 4: been confirmed that she's on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we know she's on the damn show, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I know you had to say
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  Speaker 5: that for a legal note, but we know she's on
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  Speaker 5: the show, so she's there second of us. She's bringing
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  Speaker 5: that Camis Shelle shit to the show, which can be
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  Speaker 5: good and bad. The thing about it is it's a joke,
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  Speaker 5: right because it ain't nothing about Cay Michelle normal. She's
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  Speaker 5: a celebrity. She has an incredibly beautiful singing voice. She's
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  Speaker 5: seen success that a lot of people will never see
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  Speaker 5: in their lifetime. She's had experiences that are unique and
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  Speaker 5: specific to being rich.
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  Speaker 3: She's got more money than most people.
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  Speaker 5: Have, and she as crazy as a betsy bug or
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  Speaker 5: a bag of doorknob so that she's not normal. So
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  Speaker 5: the whole throwback and toss to normalcy I thought was laughable.
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  Speaker 3: It literally made me laugh out loud.
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  Speaker 5: We know that ky Michelle is not afraid of a
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  Speaker 5: confrontation or a verbal spat with someone, and so we
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  Speaker 5: knew she was going to do that shit on Real
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  Speaker 5: Housewives of Atlanta, and so bring it on. I'm ready
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  Speaker 5: to be entertained. I just hope she aims her nerve
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  Speaker 5: gun at the right person. They're the right people, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I don't want to see her
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  Speaker 5: just be raiding somebody that don't deserve it, or being
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  Speaker 5: a wolf.
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  Speaker 3: Amongst those women.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, When it's not necessary, keep
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  Speaker 5: it bottled in, just like you do that, Jack Daniels.
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  Speaker 5: You be on keep it bottled in, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, and then do it when it's necessary.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm excited, Claudia, I'm already kind of exhausted from
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  Speaker 6: the tweets. It's a little anti climatic because now if
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  Speaker 6: the action doesn't match, like she may or may not
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  Speaker 6: be talking about housewives, she may be talking about Rashida
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  Speaker 6: who knows because she has you know, she knows a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people. Right, we know what she's talking about.
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  Speaker 6: We're assuming its Housewives, and most likely it probably is.
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  Speaker 6: But like, now that she's put this out there, of
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  Speaker 6: course we're gonna be like, ooh, that's around the time
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  Speaker 6: the cast was spotted in Dallas. Maybe something happened in Dallas,
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  Speaker 6: and if it doesn't live up to the hype, we're
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  Speaker 6: going to be disappointed. So it's like almost better to
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  Speaker 6: like kind of just chill a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 6: because I'm like, and you know, when you like, Housewives
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  Speaker 6: used to do this all the time, unfathed and bathed
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  Speaker 6: and bathed. That is the biggest indicator that you're bothered
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  Speaker 6: is when you tell people how unbothered you are. When
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  Speaker 6: you tell people I'm pressed, you're pressed. When you tell
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  Speaker 6: people I'm broke, you're broke. Most usually, like you know,
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  Speaker 6: like always, like if you're tweeting at four or five
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  Speaker 6: in the morning about something about you're not being how
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  Speaker 6: unbothered you are, you are one thousand percent bothered. So
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  Speaker 6: you're irritated, you're mad, you go to Twitter and you're
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  Speaker 6: doing a subliminal Trust me, we've all probably done subliminals.
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  Speaker 6: I've been guilty of it myself a lot of times.
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  Speaker 6: I leave them in the draft, I write them, and
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  Speaker 6: then I'm just like, Okay, that looks Oh that's going
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  Speaker 6: to cause another problem and delete it. Because Kimashelle, everyone knows,
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  Speaker 6: like you should know, all eyes are on you right
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  Speaker 6: now because we're trying to put the pieces together.
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  Speaker 7: Are you really on it?
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  Speaker 6: We pretty much you know, we we pretty much know,
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  Speaker 6: right but like, all eyes are on you right now.
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  Speaker 6: They're trying to put the pieces together, so we're going
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  Speaker 6: to like hold everything you say up under a magnifying
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  Speaker 6: glass and break it down. And I just kind of
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  Speaker 6: feel like less is more right now, Like I'd rather
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  Speaker 6: her come out the gate and we'd be like pleasantly surprised,
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  Speaker 6: then see all these sweets and be like, oh, she's
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  Speaker 6: getting at them, and then when it comes out if
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  Speaker 6: it's a dad eh or it might not be.
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  Speaker 7: She's very dramatic, she's very entertaining.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know, but I'm like, all these sweets
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  Speaker 6: ons are already on Twitter and we haven't seen that
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  Speaker 6: when things drop yet. They just started feeling a couple
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  Speaker 6: of weeks ago, like you are, it's already on ten.
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  Speaker 3: Happened what happened now already?
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  Speaker 5: Or is she being emotionally reactive to stuff that doesn't
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  Speaker 5: really require or or you know, support that sort of response.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see, we never know. What came
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  Speaker 3: to show.
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  Speaker 5: She's gonna hit that Jack Yoda, let them ladies put
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  Speaker 5: her country boots on, give us a show.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm ready for it. Let's see, And I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: you this.
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  Speaker 5: I think that if Angela Oakley did unfollow her, that's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be a great match that's gonna be a great
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  Speaker 5: verbal pair of verbal sparring matchup.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't wait.
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  Speaker 5: And Angela gonna get in that pain to handle their business,
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  Speaker 5: So I'm excited.
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  Speaker 6: It's just a lot of people though right it seems
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  Speaker 6: like too many people though.
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  Speaker 4: Well, based on the number from my calculation. So if
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  Speaker 4: Ky Michelle and Picky Coole are the two newbies, right
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  Speaker 4: you add Porsche, that's three, Faith makes four, Drew makes five,
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  Speaker 4: Shanmia makes six, Kelly makes subvvant, and Angela Oakley makes eight.
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  Speaker 4: I have never seen in my years working on alant
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  Speaker 4: of housewives, so even being a part of it by
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  Speaker 4: watching the show, eight housewives.
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  Speaker 1: So the question does remain, is that too many houses?
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  Speaker 3: Wise?
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  Speaker 1: For one shot? Now I will say this, Oh go.
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  Speaker 5: Ahead, No, it's not. These are women with extraordinary personalities.
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  Speaker 5: I think that it is not going to feel too full.
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  Speaker 5: I think that last season, even with the addition of
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  Speaker 5: Fager coming on later at the end, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: while she may not be my favorite housewife, people love
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  Speaker 5: fasor so she definitely added value to the show. So
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  Speaker 5: and it did not, it still felt like there was
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  Speaker 5: room to grow, Like like Tanya said in season two,
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  Speaker 5: it felt like to grow. So I think that if
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  Speaker 5: there are eight ladies holding those peaches, what a better
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  Speaker 5: way for Real Housewives of Atlanta to regain its position
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  Speaker 5: as the grind dome no pun intended of the Real
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  Speaker 5: Housewives shows. Give them ladies eight, give us eight Atlanta housewives.
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  Speaker 5: It's been done on Beverly Hills before, it's been done
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  Speaker 5: in other cities, like give us eight housewives. Can we
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  Speaker 5: can handle that and then let the chips kind of
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  Speaker 5: fall where they made later. I think eight is a
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  Speaker 5: great number for Atlanta this season.
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  Speaker 6: So you're saying eight is enough, Claudia, Yes, shot with
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  Speaker 6: the old sikop I actually agree with you, Dustin in
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  Speaker 6: the sense of look, I think when it comes to
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  Speaker 6: Atlanta Housewives, Atlanta Housewives will always be a very special
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  Speaker 6: show to the zeitgeist of the real housewives.
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  Speaker 1: And you are right.
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  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills had a women at one point, and that
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  Speaker 4: was actually a really good season. When it comes to
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  Speaker 4: these women, I will say this, I am interested in
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  Speaker 4: seeing the full story of all of them, and for me,
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  Speaker 4: you also get a chance to see. Look, if somebody
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  Speaker 4: storyline is weaker than the others, you at least have
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  Speaker 4: room to sort of upgrade some of these women. And
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  Speaker 4: we can see as the audience which housewife is lacking
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  Speaker 4: in the storyline department, and because of that, it will
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  Speaker 4: make reason as to why they're not able to even
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  Speaker 4: be a piece told the next season.
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  Speaker 1: But I think having eight is a step in the
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  Speaker 1: right direction.
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  Speaker 4: I think eight, in my opinion, will afford these women.
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  Speaker 1: The opportunity to step it up. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: some of them last seasons lacked in.
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  Speaker 4: The storyline department.
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  Speaker 1: A lot more than others.
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  Speaker 4: Right, so to be able to see more women who
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  Speaker 4: have more interesting stories, I think I think it's a
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  Speaker 4: great test to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So I agree with you, I think eight is fine.
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  Speaker 4: And when it comes to Michelle, when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: chem Michelle, I will say this. I will always be
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  Speaker 4: a Kim Michelle stand. The first day I met her
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  Speaker 4: in Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, I knew she was
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  Speaker 4: going to.
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  Speaker 1: Be the big star she is today.
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  Speaker 4: I will say this about Kim Michelle, and this is
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  Speaker 4: the reason why I'm happy if she is doing the show. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: legal note, but I'm also happy that she gets a chance.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say this and it may not be popular,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't give a shit. I'm sick and tired
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  Speaker 4: of the excuse me. I'm sick and tire of the
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  Speaker 4: archaic waves things used to be done. There was a
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  Speaker 4: time to where a love and hip hop star would
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  Speaker 4: never be graced amongst a housewife show, right, And I'm
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  Speaker 4: happy that the sort of invisible band has been lifted
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  Speaker 4: to give someone like Kim Michelle a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Because to me, where you start is not.
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  Speaker 4: Who you are finish line, right, So.
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  Speaker 1: I dispose of that.
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  Speaker 4: I am somebody who believes that just because you started
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  Speaker 4: off in one way, we all elevate our lives, we
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  Speaker 4: all grow, And.
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  Speaker 1: I detest and I'm gonna say this too.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like when people say, oh, my gods, this
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  Speaker 4: show has become a love and hip hop At the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day, love and hip hop a force
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  Speaker 4: to be record with.
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  Speaker 1: It still is for autism and purposes.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't want Black people to divide the shows
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  Speaker 4: to where this person fits here and that person fits
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  Speaker 4: over there.
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  Speaker 1: I think as a community, we.
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  Speaker 4: Are all able to fit in multiple places if it
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  Speaker 4: makes sense for us at the time. Now, look, there's
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  Speaker 4: some love and Hip Hop stars who, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 4: don't have what it takes right now to be on
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  Speaker 4: a broo housewife. The stays on where they are in
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  Speaker 4: their lives, So I don't think it's for everybody. But
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  Speaker 4: I think cay Michelle, who's newly married, who has proven
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  Speaker 4: that she has graduated from where she is selling out
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  Speaker 4: you multiple venues, having Beyonce knows Carter send her a
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  Speaker 4: note congratulating her country's success. I think cam Michelle is
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  Speaker 4: a good example of the fact that where you start
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  Speaker 4: is not where you end up.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm happy that she is giving a chance to
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  Speaker 1: prove that.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I think the tweets, in my opinion, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna move on and have you guys, finish it off.
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  Speaker 4: I am old school, right, and I am from the
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  Speaker 4: school you don't tweet anything and let the show handle it.
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  Speaker 1: What I will say is I'm not mad at came
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  Speaker 1: Michelle keeping the show alive.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not mad at her for having us be entertained
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  Speaker 4: by it because I would rather be this that what
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  Speaker 4: happened last season that we found out and a lot
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  Speaker 4: of crazy things happen. So if it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a tweet, I'd rather a tweet than a pop out.
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  Speaker 3: So I agree.
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  Speaker 5: And one more point, one more note I want to
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  Speaker 5: make really quick is that at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: this show, this is a document series about these women's lives, right,
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  Speaker 5: And when you're looking at someone's life like the evolution
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  Speaker 5: of I used to do this, but now I'm living
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  Speaker 5: this way and I can show that I can exist
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  Speaker 5: in this space.
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  Speaker 3: That's an evolution that makes sense.
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  Speaker 5: So while there are new cast members on Love and
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  Speaker 5: Hip Hop who may not necessarily fit the profile of
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  Speaker 5: what a real housewife typically is, it does make sense
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  Speaker 5: for someone to exist in the Love and Hip Hop
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  Speaker 5: zeitgeist and then evolve into what we know the real
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  Speaker 5: housewives world to look like that track makes sense, and
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  Speaker 5: if kay Mischelle can do that successfully, then more power
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  Speaker 5: to her.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a hater.
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  Speaker 5: So if that makes if that happens for her and
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  Speaker 5: she's great on the show, then bring it on. Because
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  Speaker 5: ultimately it's good for her, it's good for the show.
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  Speaker 5: She's a black woman, it's a black show. I want
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  Speaker 5: to see both entities be successful and see success in
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  Speaker 5: this realm. So bring it on.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Claudia before you, I'm gonna Claudia to wrap
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  Speaker 1: this up. I will say this at Dustin.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not joke king, Okay, I would like to see
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  Speaker 4: I would like to see Jocelyne Hernandez on The Real
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  Speaker 4: Housewives in Miami.
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  Speaker 6: Well, m m all right, Like how we're on the
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  Speaker 6: same page?
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  Speaker 1: Are we?
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  Speaker 6: Non verbals? Non verbal?
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  Speaker 1: Not?
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  Speaker 3: Let me say Let me say this. I watch Joscelyn's
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  Speaker 3: Cabaret every week.
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  Speaker 5: I think that Jocelyne is interesting on television and I
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  Speaker 5: wish her success and the spaces that she occupies. I
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  Speaker 5: will say that I love her show. You know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying. She's made me laugh for years.
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  Speaker 6: She's very funny.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say that now that Housewives conversation. That's some
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  Speaker 5: other ship, you know what I'm saying. But but as
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  Speaker 5: far as Jocelyn having a space in.
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  Speaker 6: Here, sure, I love seeing black and brown people work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yeah mm.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm yeah, okay, yeah here, y'all all right, your back, okay, good,
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  Speaker 4: all right?
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  Speaker 6: If you want to add asad as Jocelyn, or just
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  Speaker 6: people in.
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  Speaker 1: General in general, what we talked about. We got a
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  Speaker 1: move on.
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  Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm with it all with the evolution, I
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  Speaker 6: think it's cute. But we'll see how it works. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, We'll see how it works.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like the show's not the show it used
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  Speaker 6: to be anyways. It's a different show, you know. The
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  Speaker 6: Housewives is just not what it used to be. It's
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  Speaker 6: way different way. So it's like it's kind of evolving
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  Speaker 6: in something else. I almost felt they need to change
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  Speaker 6: the title because last year, what was it like one
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  Speaker 6: or two one wives on there?
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  Speaker 7: It was just not a lot of wives on there.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, what do you think the new titles should be?
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  Speaker 6: Claudia Atlanta Streets Street Atlanta, the Streets of Atlanta, Because
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  Speaker 6: you got all kind of shit going on, you got
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  Speaker 6: bitter ex husbands. You got people shooting guns and threatening people.
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  Speaker 6: You've got people that are know man, you got men
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  Speaker 6: that are trying to get peaches. You got niggas living. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I remember the niggas of parents, but now we got
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  Speaker 6: niggas and basements. You know what I'm saying. It's Pokorea conucopia.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, scenarios, but.
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  Speaker 6: As far as the housewife and husband dynamic that we
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  Speaker 6: don't have that anymore. Like we don't have the wealthy
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  Speaker 6: man husband and the wealthy housewife that is home and
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: gets to lunch with their friends.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: You don't have that.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: You got girls that got to open up, like you know,
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: all these businesses to try to make it happen. X
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: husbands that ain't paying no bills. You got people with
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: in lavender marriages trying to pretend. And you got you know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: people that just like I don't know, you got men
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: trying to get peaches. But you've always had that.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: It's not the same. It's not like what it was.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: I want to get back, like away from heaps fighting,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: like I wanted to get where it's like a war
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: of words where it's like you have to really be smart,
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: you know, and be clever with your words, because anyone
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: could fight. And I think when people say bringing how
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: Atlanta Housewives bring it, making it be like loving hey
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: about that's what they mean. That's what was separate to
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: that shut because people would like they would verbally jousts
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: and it would never ever, no matter what someone would say,
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: no one's punching someone. It would just be like, oh,
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: I see your insult and I raise you another one
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: and he'd be.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Like, oh shit.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: And I think it takes more strength to be like that,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: and that's more brilliant to me. Then it's easy to
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: just punch a bitch in a fight in the mouth.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Care Yeah, very easy. I listen.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: I would love to see I Ain't even gonna hold
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: you while Yes, there's a profile that exists for what
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: we know the Real Housewives of Atlanta cast members. To
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: be right, I do want to see a show about
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: the girls in Atlanta that's getting to the money. You
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, running these niggas. I want to
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: see the three zero fours of the four oh four,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to I want to I want
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: that show.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know where it needs to live.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Carlos, who is dallous and magic. I don't know where
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: it needs to live, but I want to see a
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: show about to get it. Girls that's out here getting
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: to it, hustling by whatever means, looking good, running niggas.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I want to see it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that it might not be
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: the place for them on the Atlanta Housewives, no matter
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: how much you love these women Carlos from all walks
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: of life.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I think you know.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Type chicks, feel like that could be a good Detroit show, Like.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I want to see that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: The girls that don't talk. I want to see a
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: show with the ones that you convinced to talk. That's
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: what I want to see.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Yes, someone said, oh, well, Claudia, you didn't have a
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: husband and housewife. First of all, one last time I
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: went on there as a friend, but because my read
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: was so goddamn epic and fan favorite that even asked
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: me to be a housewife with only about three weeks
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: left on the clock, so we didn't have time to
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: get to my real storyline that I didn't go and
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: I was there the front. So if you look at
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: my story as a friend, I did a lot for
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: a friend of the show. But then I got the
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: extra title. That's what happened.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: What happened anyway, But I was.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: Dating someone at the time that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Baby I had mine, Oh, Claudia.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: But and now they had known and he had a meeting,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: right I'm I gonna say, but he had a meeting.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: No please, no, no, no, Oh, I know, Carlos, I know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: you know what's happening right now. So anyways, bad it
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: had been, we would have been fucking running that shit, okay,
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: But what happened once we had just started dating towards
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: the end of Housewives, he had a meeting with production
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: one hour on the phone and he said, I love
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: it was not Roger Bob, stop it. And he said, Claudia,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: I love to help you out, but I have kids.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: And I was like, yeah, and it's too soon in
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: our relationship, and I said, I'd rather have you in
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: real life. Thank the Lord, I did not push to
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: get him on the show because he would have embarrassed
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: the fuck out of me with his shenanigans. It would
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: have been great for the show, horrible for me personally.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: And I'm so glad I did ja bullet And this
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: guy is like, one day it'll come out and you're
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: gonna be y'all woll gag, y'all woll gag, y'all woll gag.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: But we're not gonna say all.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I'll say rain drops. He is five.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: I only.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, think about your roster, and we're gonna listen.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I will give you this, and I'll give you your tens,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: but I'm gonna give you this too.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Add this to your accomplishments in life.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I have the pleasure of being around two of Claudia's
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: former dates, right, and I also know about her other
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: excess of her friends. I will say this of all
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: of my girls that I am friends with, and I
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: love all the girls.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I will give Claudia Jordan this.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Claudia Jordan's roster are all a ten out of a tent.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: MS Mama does not do a nine.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: She don't do a nine plenty five, Claudia doesn't.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Her tens are ten.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Answer based on what I know. Claudia don't suck around.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: She don't play. You know she's going to cast the
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: net and get the fish.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: She won't. I'll put it like that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: That's why when people be like, oh, you don't have
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: I'm like, no, I do. I don't tell y'all see
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: y'all have with him, and I also protect it. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: like the guys that I like are like unicorns, so
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: they don't come a diamond dozen like it takes a
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: minute to like get them.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: People.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: Let me see, I'll see.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: I'll tell y'all if anybody right, yup, y'all mentioned maybe
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: one two, y'all mentioned I saw one.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna say nothing.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not even at the comments, but I can already
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: tell you I know they're going to arrive at.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's what That's what y'all said.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: That. All I'll do is this, Okay.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Claudia protect her all the time, claudiaything no, so all
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: almost say it is Claudia pulls the tense for sure.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I will say this.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Quadia, I'm not gonna say much actually had two, but
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: she's forgetting about the second one that I've met at
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: the club.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: So anyway, if you worry.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: And they'd be cool too, I will say that, as
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Claudia's friend that she has allowed in spaces with you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: partners that she's been involved with or whatever, that I've
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: been treated very nicely. I actually have gotten along with
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: people to the point where I wish that. You know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: of course I'm gonna be on Claudia side no matter what.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Fuck the niggas, you know what I'm saying. But I
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: have wanted certain situations to work out because I genuinely
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: enjoyed the company of you know, the.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: People that she has introduced me to.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: I say that I'm trying to be as vague as possible, Claudia,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: because you know, I.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Love you for that. I never hooked up with that person.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: We met an event.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And no, no, no no, I think he wanted you.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: We all will hang it out, but that he was
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: like wandering I with all my friends and like right away,
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: I was like, m but he's very fine. He's very
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: popular in Tyler Perry productions. Will say you are, there's
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: a lot of them. But I never touched him. We
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: never made out, We never kissed, No that. But he
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: was at my house with a group of us. We
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: all went out that night. Yet that was not club
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: in Atlanta. It wasn't Christian k y'all, it was not Christian. Okay, names.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Let's get back into the show anyway, And.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Tyler Perry do you have similar tastes like his taste in
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: casting and the.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: People that he.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Is similar.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: What big that I do want to say is Ray draw.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Somebody wanted me to give y'all a message. Peter Thomas says, Hello, shout.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Out to my boy Peter.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: Yes he's in right now.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: Oh man, hi Peter.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Yes he's he.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: He wanted me to tell you guys hello, he said.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm only saying this because he gave me permission,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: because I'll know, I'm gonna make sure.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: So Peter Thomas wanted me to tell everybody he is
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: doing well, that he's hanging in there, he's in good spirit.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: He said that this is the part that baby laugh.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: He said, Well, don't Carlo, they know you here. I said,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: oh the God tell me in prison. He said, yes,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Oh yes, love loud was king, Okay, do it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: So one thing he did say was he mentioned that
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: every Saturday day, he said, they are glue in front
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: of the television watching Huntsville.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: He said, and in my mind, because I'm a little whatever,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I said, wait, just to be clear, you're like the
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: man's prison.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, and what do you think I mean?
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I'm like that sure, because I'm like he said, Carlos
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: is to the point where if you try to change
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the channel, you're getting beat up. He said, they love Huntsville,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: and he wanted me to tell everybody on Huntsville that
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: the prison mates, inmates, they love the show.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And he wanted me to tell you, Claude, you dusted.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Hello and the rain drops he says, Hi.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Is that what he said?
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: Just Hello?
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: That's it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: But he wanted me to everybody like he's doing good,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: that he's in he's in good spirits and and he's
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: rocking and rolling and and he's not sad depressed.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: He's doing his time and he's he's there to, you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: do his thing and get out.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: He got fine.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Peter will be just fine. Don't you remember when he
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: whooped mad ass? Remember Matt that Kenya was Dayton and
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: he whooped mad ass at that radio station. It's all
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: it's online, you can look it up. Peter be mad
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: ass in that radio station. Matt really thought he had him.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Peter is an old school hustler. You know what I'm saying.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: When Peter and Cynthia are together and I was around Peter.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: He was always very nice to me. You know what
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. Of course, my loyalty's eyes was Cynthia and
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: always will but like he was cool, you know what
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I think that he'll handle him. So
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: I hate to see him in there, you know what
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, But he'll pay his debt and handle that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: So and I'm not worried about him behind them by
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: shout out to Peter and shout out to everybody in
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: the system, you know what I'm saying, who's paying their
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: debt properly, you know, is remorseful about whatever happened to them.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: They're all shout out to my podcast, The friend Zone.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: We got approved on some list of podcasts that people
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: can listen to that are incarcerated and whatever prison systems,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: and we get tons and tons of support from people
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: that are incarcerated at this time. So that's a that's
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: an audience, that's a population. And who better to speak to,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying that who better to give
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: information and make feel good than people who need it
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: at that time. So if y'all nigga's watching us right now,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, that's that's that's handling that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: And locked up. Shout out to y'all hold your head.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I used to have a connecting prison my one
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: of my friends, and they used to like study the
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: sports betting every day, and they used to give me
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: like ten team parlays.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: You told me it's a long time ago. You told
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: me that Cardia.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Yes, shout out to Boo. I think his name is Boo.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: He used to give me some good bets. I think
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: I want like five ten team parlays. I would like
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: throw a little something on his books, give his mama
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: some money. I know, I got a little rapticide.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Anyways, and they loved you from the Prices right too,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: didn't you have a big audience in there from like
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: your time on the Price is Right.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Because back then the Price was Right was like pouring
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: back then for them. They could see girls.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So wanted to make sure I stayed up before I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: moved on.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: So last hot topic of the evening, speaking of casting,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: The Real Housewives of New Jersey, as you all know, has.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Been put on palls for almost I think it's going
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: on the year.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: For my calculations due to the fact that last season,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: the ladies were not getting along.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: It was destructive.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Rumors had it in the past week or two that
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: has been the talk of the town that they are
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: testing new housewives.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Potential housewives, but.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: The potential housewives are only filming allegedly with Dolores, Melissa Gorga,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: and Margaret Josephs missing in terms of filming.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Is Teresa? Excuse me?
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: So?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Teresa recently sent her podcast that you know, she felt
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: that last year the ladies were trying to out her out.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I mean I saw out so that she wouldn't come back,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: so that it's been hard. Her guest Christian Gray said that,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: you know, we got to make sure that we're not
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: doing this in this scene and we're not talking to
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: her in the scene. Is that what happens on these shows?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: He feels like it shouldn't happen. Teresa says she agrees,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: and that's why she feels like Salt Lake City is amazing.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: She's been watching the show and learning a lot from them.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So Dustin and Claudia.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Can the Real Housewives of New Jersey survive without Teresa Judas.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Full disclosure, I don't know who any of the my
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: girls are. I really don't. I don't I know who
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: Terreitha is. I've never seen one episode, so I have
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: to just tap out on this one and let the
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: reality show TV historian Dustin I have to.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: I relinquished my time.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, look, snatches, Kate, let's go. First.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Of all, Real Housewives of New Jersey is a ghetto
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: ass show. I don't care what nobody says. They've been
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: ghetto from day one, and that's why a certain audience
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: loved that show.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: It also appealed to us. It was about.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Families, it was drama, and they never gave a fuck
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: about going to the line with the drama.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: It was a refreshing take on a bunch of white
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: ladies living in a you know what I'm saying, that
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: random neighborhood.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: It was refreshing.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: We were able to identify with certain elements and themes
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: this whole Teresa Versus Melissa debate. This can be summed
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: up very simply by people who watched the show from
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: season one forward. Seasons one and two of the Real
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Housewives of New Jersey. Teresa and her family were interesting.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: We were captivated by them, her and all them daughters
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: and just everything going on with them. We didn't even
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: know that Teresa had a brother and a sister in law. Okay,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: she never mentioned her family. She never exploited that very
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: serious rift that was going on in her family that
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: we didn't know anything about it. We found out about
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: it because Melissa was willing to introduce that family drama
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: and use it as something to position herself on the
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: cast of the show. That's what happened when Teresa, so
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: much so that when Teresa came on to season three,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: episode one and she was at the baby's christening her
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: nephew or niece's it was one of her nephews, Christenings,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I think, and they had that big blow up in
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: the first episode. Melissa and her sisters was bringing the
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: straight up drama and they all introduced and Joe Gorga.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: They introduced that family conflict to the audiences and to
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: the world.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Teresa never did that. Now.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: I have my personal take on Teresa and some of
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: what she's offered to that show, but take all that
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: out when it comes down.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: To Melissa versus Teresa.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Melissa and Joe are the ones who brought that family
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: drama to the forefront and used it as something to
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: position themselves on the show.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: That's simply what happened.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: You might ain't gotta like Teresa, you ain't gotta agree
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: with nothing else going on in her life, But when
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: we're talking about Melissa versus Teresa, that is what happened.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: And because of that, I've never really seen the value
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: in Melissa on the show beyond her conflict with Teresa
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: and them which Teresa never used to be interesting on
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: the show. And that's the difference between the two of them.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Now has it run its course? Is it still absolutely?
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Are the audiences as a whole ready to move on?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: For sure? Okay?
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: But what happened is that Melissa and Joe were willing
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: to exploit their family drama to be on that show,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: and they introduced all of that shit to the show.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: That's just the facts.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Now, you can't start a story in the middle, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: can't start it in the end close to the end.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Things have happened along the way that Teresa is at
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: fault for. She's had multiple opportunity it needs to quell
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: that drama and shut it down.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: She has not.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: But if we're talking about what happened, Melissa and Joe
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: brought that family drama to the show. Terita never used
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: that to be interesting on the show. That's the facts
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: we can go on.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: You're so there's such a like we're so lucky to
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: have you, like you're such a JOm Like I'm like,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, yeah, I need to go back and
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: see this because I.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: Don't know this ship, and damn you can just go.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: Like your brain is like an encyclopedia.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: That's what we get along because yours is too, you know, Claudia,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: we can run it.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Yes, encyclopedia, but you have
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: that reality stuff down like you have so much like
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: your memory card is not full.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: My little.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: More bandwidth, okay, but you just go when you find
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: episode eight season two, remember that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Like remember that ship because I used to. Really,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I was caught up in that world.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: When they announced I remember them announcing, you know, it's
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: old time at the Apollo over here. I remember stuff,
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: and so I remember when they announced The Housewives of
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: New Jersey. I remember that first trailer. I remember season two,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: the whole hair pulling moment with Jacqueline's daughter, which I
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: love the way they said her name Jacqueline. The would
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: call her Jacqueline. I love that, but I remember just
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: all those were huge moments, and Carlos, that's when you
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: were at the helm of you were producing over there,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: when all that stuff was going on in seasons one
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: and two, that made everybody fall in love with the
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Real Housewives of New Jersey. That's why it's still here,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: so you know, return the form would be cool. The show,
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Like I said, they ghetto. Danielle Cabral was yelling on
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: their last season, you're dirty, You're dirty, yelling at the
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: old girl's face, throwing glasses and shit. I remember when
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: them ghetto ass twins was on there fighting and them
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: firemen costumes and shit. It's been It's been multiple physical,
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: multiple physical altercations on Real house They've had.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: More fight than and just so you know, Claudia, the
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Real Housewives Jersey has have more physical altercations than any housewives.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Let me tell you, Italians and Irish are the what
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: word can I use of the whites you already know, Okay,
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: they are them. They are them Italians and the Irish
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: they are with the ships. They're the most I don't
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: want to say, yeah, the most.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: The Real Housewives in New Jersey that's what they get it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: They get a going, they get a going. So listen,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Dustin is I don't have anything to say after what
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Dustin just said. I mean, I agree with everything he said.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: The only thing I'm going to offer up as producer
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: is this, just because newbies aren't filming with all of
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: the potential housewives doesn't mean that that person is out right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And I'll give.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Claudia an example, because she's here. Claudia filmed with Kenya
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: right when she was testing out. Claudia did not film
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: with any of the housewives. So just because the new
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: the potential housewives are not filming with Teresa does not
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: mean Teresa is not coming back. Now, the rumor is
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: that if she's not coming back, it's because they're giving
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Teresa her own show with her family, which would be great.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Too, But I want to offer it up, don't.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I don't care about her family. I don't want to
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: see no damn show with Teresa and Louie and them
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: fucking kids. We don't know what Louise. We care about
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Teresa's daughters because we've seen them.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: But they've been writing Donald Trump and doing all kinds
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: of shit that we're disinterested in right. So I personally,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: just speaking for myself, I don't give a fuck about
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: the show with Teresa and her family. Teresa needs to
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: be on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. She needs
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: to figure it out when it comes to filming with Melissa,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: because apparently Bravo sees valuing her and she ain't going nowhere.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: And so suck it up. Figure it out, Teresa, that
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: whole stalemate, not filming with this one and not filming
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: with that one. Don't nobody, none of.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Y'all add enough value to the show to be able
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: to take that sort of stance and have it, you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: have some weight and levity. Suck it up, be a
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: grown up, learn how to film, even if you have
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: to figure it out, so that we can get back
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: to what makes all of you interesting.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: We only like Teresa because she was on the Real
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Housewives of New Jersey.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Outside of that, yes, she's got had cookbook success and
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: all the other shit, but that's been a derivative of
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: her run on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. She
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: owes it to herself to figure out how to if
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: this is your show and you started this shit whole court,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, it don't matter who they
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: bring on the show. You can deal with it and
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: figure it out, even if it's your sister in law
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: who you automatic. I've never understood why Teresa allowed herself
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: to succumb to Melissa's tactics. You were here first, hold
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: your ground and make Melissa uncomfortable on this damn show.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: That's what you should do. So all that, not on
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the film or giving her her own show.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: I don't give a damn about nothing going on in
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: that tacky ass house that looks like them tacky ass
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: decorations they put in the White House, all that gold
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: leaf shit, I don't care about.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: None of that. I want to see her on the
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: cast with the other women.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: Everybody thinks they need a spin off or deserve one,
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: or that they and not just housewives. I mean, everyone
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: thinks I should have a reality show. I should, I should,
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: I should spin off, And it's like it takes a
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: lot to carry that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: You know. I'm so we we we shall see, we
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: shall see so. But as of now, no announcements have
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: been made.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: So with that being said, look, I would love to
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: see Teresa back on the show. I think Teresa the
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: face of the show. I think I was a producer.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: It's her show, and I think in terms of advertising,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: marketing and all of that, when advertisers and everybody hears
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: the real house spots from New Jersey, Like Claudia said,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Claudia knows not one person on that show besides Teresa
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Judi and that's the reason why she needs to come
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: back to the show. So I'll just ended there. Now
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: let's get it to Love and Marriage Haunts Bill. So
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: this episode was a doozy. There was a lot going
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: on Dustin and Claudia. I first want to get into
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: what's going on between Destiny and Lance, so to update
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: the audience and to update well, don't needs up at YouTube.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Destiny is single, she was married, she's divorced. She's a
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: single mother. Okay, she is in hospital, Alabama that has
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: a population of eighty two people.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm teasing you Forguret to take me seriously.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: So Hustbille as a small town, Destiny is a beautiful
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: single woman.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Lance is the adult son of Neil Fletcher.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's still we're clear now with that being said,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: just for you know, to let everyone know, because I
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: think y'all access last time Chris Fletcher is not Lance's
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: biological father. Okay, So Mail had Lance in a previous relationship. Okay,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Destiny dated Lance. Okay, they had a rendezvous. Destney said
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: it wasn't intimate. We'll get into that conversation letter that
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: she had with Neil. But while Destiny and Lance were
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: dating the day we tape the reunion last year. So
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: we take last year's reunion Claudia and Dustin in October
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four. We tape the reunion in Los Angeles. Okay,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: nine times out of ten. The cast obviously likes to
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: stay a couple of days after because why not. Apparently
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Lance Lance was there, but he was off camera. Apparently
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: the Fletchers left immediately, they left La and Latitia Scott,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: and Nail's voice told Destiny that she heard they had
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: to run off because this woman that Lance was dating,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: he got her pregnant and the lady was having the baby.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's happened.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Allegedly, Destiny found out that Lance had a baby courtesy
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: uh Instagram.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So in this one on one they have the conversation.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Claudia, want to start with you, as a woman, what
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: did you think about the fact that listen, Lance said
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: he did not hide his baby from Destiny.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: He was hiding the world from his baby. I'm saying that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: Okay, but okay, okay, Drake, thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: But when it comes to that, do you think as
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: a woman that Lance is Lance should have told Destiny.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're dating. Yes it's casual. I'm dating other women.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: However, I did get someone pregnant before nine months later
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: seeing the photo on Instagram, of.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: Course, like why are we playing this woman's face like
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: like like she didn't have a valid point to feel away?
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Of course I don't. Even if we're actually dating, you
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: having a baby, you're getting another woman pregnant is a
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: big occurrence in your life. Let's flip the script and
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: reverse it real quick. What if she would have just
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: got pregnant by someone else while she was casually dating Lands,
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: it would be the end of the world.
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: She's a horror, she's for the streets.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: Like, let's let's normalize, like, you know, an equal playing
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: field here. Of course, that's a big deal. And she
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: doesn't have to be his woman official title for him
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: to share that with her, just being someone that's in
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: his orbit in his life. That's something I want to know.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be with someone that has a
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: newborn baby because it always reflects badly on the woman
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: that's right after that, Like, you're not letting a family
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: be a family. You're interfering, You're in the way. What's
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: going on here? And yes, and you know, I take
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: issue with like Nell and I love now when she
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: was on the show. I think she's adorable. I love
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: her personality, but like, these are grown up, these are
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: not children. And having smoke for Destiny because she may
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: have flirted with someone else. I love the line that
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: Destney said, I may have been making googly eyes, but
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: he was making babies. I thought that was bars because okay,
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: well Britain bars. Okay, you know, not the first one
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: a pre write a read.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: But you know, there you go, fam, I'm making babies,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I'm making an eye. You know she was rapping.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: It's like the double standards is out of control.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: You know. I'm like, if someone has a baby while
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: we're dating, guess what. I can date your father, your cousin,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: your brother, can date whoever the fuck I want. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: you can't really say anything about it because you are
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: out here raw dogging other people and made a baby,
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: so please stop playing with me and like to make
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: her like where the scarlet letter that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: She's some half of the streets.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: I don't think she knew that that was a relative
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: when she saw him and made quote unquote googly eyes.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: I feel like she saw a tall, good looking man,
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: which you know, in shape with You don't really see
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: that a lot, and everyone does that, Oh, who's that?
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: Does she give him? Does she give him? Ask that night?
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: I don't know. Oh that's my opinion.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: Y'all know these people more than I do. But what
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: I'm looking at, I was like, I don't think she
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: was in the wrong. And the fact that she even
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: gave the respect to Lance and said, I'm letting you
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: know that I heard he's interested and if he does
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: ask me, I would be open to go on that.
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: Why you're out here making children with other people? Think
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: she I think she handled it right in my opinion.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm rolling with Claudia on this one. I'm one
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: hundred percent in agreement. I'm over people trying to police
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: women's bodies. If Destiny wanted to fuck everybody on that show,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: that she could morally so what she can do what
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: she wants to do.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: And I don't think that it's nails ain't none of
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: nails damn business.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: I actually, and I'm fresh off of that documentary on
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Netflix's Unknown Number where that mother was sending them crazy
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: text to her daughter. So the whole other of like
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: over involvement of the mother in the child's very adult business,
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: I'm triggered by that.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: In this case, I.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: Definitely thought Nail was overstepping the fuck out of her
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: boundaries by even having a conversation about what all these
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: grown people are doing with their privates.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: I don't understand it, and then doubling down on the
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: fact I know he slept with it. I know, my boy,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: all of that stuff, Like I just I was.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Like, damn Nell, Like if he's saying they didn't do it,
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Destiny Flyers said in her scene that they did not
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: mess around, which they didn't have to say anything at all,
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: because it was nobody's business what the fuck they did.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: And even if and I thought it was interesting that
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: nobody Nails.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: All of Neil's vitry all was aimed at Destiny for
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: allegedly having involvement with these two men who had a
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: pre existent relationship as god brothers. But Neil didn't say
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: nothing to them, like, well, why y'all trying to fuck
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: on the same girl? You know what I'm saying, Like
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: that was not called out by her. So I'm one
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: hundred percent with Claudia on this. There is an obvious
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: double standard, and Destiny was in the right in this case.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: She has four control over her autonomy. She can be
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: with whoever the hell she wants to be with. And
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: I do not believe for one second to her and
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: Lance where any form or semblance of anything serious. I
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: think that they were having fun and dating. As far
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: as this cast is concerned, Destiny is like the single
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: one who can be living that life and going on
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: dates and stuff.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: And if that's what she was doing, that's what she
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: was doing. You know what I'm saying.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Yes, she was flirty with this one, flirty with that one,
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: but if her and him were not in a serious connection,
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: she had every right to do that. And so I
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: don't this all the involvement. I don't get led Destiny Rod.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: That's hers to do whatever she want.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: To do it with and some I will never say
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: all or many, but there's some black mamas that are
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: very involved in their son's lives and almost treat them
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: like their man sometimes. And it's weird, right, Like it's
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: like when she started naming the names of all these
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: other men that alleging like kind of putting bodies on Destiny,
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: I thought that was kind of like not cool, Like
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: why would you do that? Like it was almost like
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: she was like, your son is the one that has
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: actual DNA evidence of being with other people, you know,
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: like while you're out here like kind of kind of
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: low key kind of shaming destiny. Your son is out
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: here like what they say, laying it low, spreading it wide.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know whatever shout out to funky with the
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: saying but like you know for a fact that he's
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: been with other people, you're like a legend things about
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: this girl and it kind of like, you know, and
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: luckily Desinely had a good sense of humor about it
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: and she didn't seem to go off. But that usually
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: that that will put again a scarlet letter around a woman,
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: like why is it that she's so wrong for even
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: flirting or noticing an attractive man, But we're not having
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: the same accountability or smoke for someone that's dating seeing
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: this woman but then laid up with another woman and
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: got another woman pregnant and created a whole entire life.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: It's like, to me, like, they're not this, They're.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Not the same thing, and neither I'm sorry, I mean
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: to cut you off for him more.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: She's getting more like pushback, and it's like the people
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: not like destiny. Is that why they're like judging her
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: more harshly. But I think a lot of times mama
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: is of a black boys. Some black men be babying
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: their sons and they don't like they kind of like
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: co sign everything they do and they never really feel
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: like they have to have accountability for anything because the
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: mama always tells them, No, you're right baby, No, that's
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: a fast girl, that's them.
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: No sometimes that you sometimes that you.
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: I believe that a lot of what Neil was doing
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: in this episode was for the sorry y'all that's probably
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: in order coming through anyways is gonna happen, but okay, anyways,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: I think that Neil was being performative. A lot of
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: that was for the camera based on what like, we
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: just had a great conversation with Neil on the show
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, based on what we've seen
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: in past seasons from her and the other scenes, she
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: was prying and really like tapping into that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I think for the show. I think in real life
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: she wouldn't be that involved in our son's business.
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: And I'll stop you there, not to get too much away,
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: not to give too much away, but I will say this,
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: Nell is a mama bear, and you'll see more of.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: The interaction she has with her family this season. But
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: when it comes to I'm not talking about her being
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: performed or whatever, but I think when it comes to
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: when it comes to her kids now, is definitely a
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: mama bear for sure.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, then in that case, Neil, you're wrong. You're
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: wrong as hell.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: You need to get out of Destiny and the lance business.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: They don't really have no business for you to be in,
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: especially if they didn't have sex, and even if they did,
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: they're grown adults. All these people are adults and everybody
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: needs to mind their business.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: So Nail, you're wrong, and that's that, you're wrong as hell.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Stay out their business.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: And it did it did feel like you know, when
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: you maybe you have a slow week with your drama
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: and your own storyline and you kind of have to
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: milk something. When I was looking at like produce her mind, like,
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: I was like, this feels that she's kind of dragging
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: us a little bit. Sd Max says, Italian mom is baby,
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: they're boys too. That is one thousand percent of facts.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: My mom.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: My mother is like one of seven and she has
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: one brother. And the way they would baby the brother
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: the boy like everything it is right, nothing is wrong
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: just because he has a penis. Like, honestly, some cultures
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: really just do not like to hold their sons accountable,
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: like they really treat them as the golden child.
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: And I think Italians black folks very much do that.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: And that's, to me, is the beauty of this conversation, right,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: because I do think it's funny because as you all know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I'm one of ten kids.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I have nice siblings. And one of the topics is, well,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: let me break it down first.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: It's seven boys and three girls, right, seven boys and
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: three girls, and my sisters high to Meka, Lakita and Carlita.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: They watched every Monday. My sisters will always tell my mom.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: You baby, these boys like you baby, these boys. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: it's funny because this is the best part of the conversation.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: My two of my sisters obviously had children. They have
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: a daughter and a son, and their daughters told them
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: you baby my brother like so I thought it was
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: interesting because it is sort of like, is it this cycle?
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: And that's the reason why when it comes to Nail,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Nell is very passionate when it comes to her kids.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: In general, Lance is her first born and that's her
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Her first born.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Is a is a like you we said, a boy
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: a man, and that's why to me, it is interesting
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: to sort of see the mama bear come out when
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: it comes to it. And that's why rain das from
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: the chat, I do, I do want to talk about
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: this more in detail, not tonight, but just in general
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: as we sort of recap the rest of the season.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Do y'all feel like when.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: It comes to black mothers Italian mothers too, as as
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: you guys outline in the in the chat that they're
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: they're harder on their daughters than they are their boys.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Because that is a topic of conversation that my family had.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: I'm singing on the show and Claudia and Dust and
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: I've raised the good points too when it comes to
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: DestinE that we'll say this when I created a Love
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: and Matter. TUN's bell obviously lives about three couples, but
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: similar to housewives, things change, and unfortunately the divorce rate
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: is that fifty one percent. I believe I always wanted
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: to tell the story of like look, just because your
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: divorce doesn't mean.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: You your life is over.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: I will always applaud destiny to tell the story of
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: I'm single, I should be dating and figuring life out.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: I do think it's unfair, and I agree with Dustin
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent. I do think it's unfair that a
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: woman who is single is not allowed to day around
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: figure things out, and if she wants to sleep around,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: it's her body, do what she wants to do. As
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: long as is her choice, her body, her choice will
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: This is a big topic the rest of the season.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: But I will say is I applaud destiny because being
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: a single woman, Claudia, I would love to ask you this.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Being a single woman around married women and.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Married couples, it is harder because you are seen oftentimes.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: But again, I want Claudia as a pain on this
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: because I'm not a single woman.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: But Claudia, do you feel like unfortunately single women get
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: a bad rap for dating around town just because they're
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: around married couples and people look down on it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: One thousand percent. You're always seen as a threat. I
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: can't tell you how many friends like you know, I'm
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: a relationship girl. When I'm in a relationship, I love
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: going on like couples trips. I love doing like double days.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: I love that. I feel like it builds like kind
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: of community and like it's strong hands. It's really good
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: for your couples to be with other couples. But you know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: sometimes in between relationships, I'd be the single girl at
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: a wedding or on a trip, and I feel like
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: the men that have these women, they almost want to
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: keep their women away from me, their girlfriends, like I'm
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: gonna somehow encourage them to like creep or I'm gonna
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: have them around all these single men, and it's just
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: like not right, It's just not true. I remember one
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: year on a girl's trip, a Rata, who is Michael
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: Blackson's fiance. Michael Blackson came on the trip with us, right,
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: so he was the one man on a girl's trip
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: and he got to see what it was like and
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: he was actually blown away. And I was like, see
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: I wanted you to see this like we're not these
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: like we're not these threatening mystical beings that just have
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: supply of random extra spare dicks on hand for our
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: friends to just run through. It's not like that. But
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: people tend to think, Oh, that single girl's gonna take
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: you away and she's gonna have you around her single
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: baller friends, and you're gonna leave me for that. You
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: can be single and still be a good girls girl
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: and still be a pro relational friend. I always encourage
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not with that being a side chick or my
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: friends like cheating on their men. I'm always like, yo,
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: you need to talk to your man and figure it out. Like,
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: don't go to me for an alibi. Let's you're my Bessie, Bessie,
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: I got your back girlfriend.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying like, I'm gonna call you, and I
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: ain't your girlfriend. I'm gonna call you.
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: I would never try to encourage someone to, like, you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: just be be trifled like that. Matter of fact, I
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: have friends that lie to me about what they're doing
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: because they know I don't play that. So yeah, they
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: definitely look at the single friend as like you're like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: you know, you represent temptation and like bringing their girl
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: like or you also can give them the game like girl,
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: there's still other men out there. And I hate that
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: they think that because if you get to know me,
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: you know I'm a very traditional relationship Like I'm traditional roles.
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: Like I like, I don't like all that cheating nonsense.
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: I'm not with that. So, yeah, one thousand was sent.
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: They think that we're like the Scarlet Letter once again,
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: like we're just We're gonna take your girl and make
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: a fuck somebody else.
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: It's a very interesting topic and again it just explore
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: a few more times this season.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: But I want to move on to talk about the
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: men meet up.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: So Maurice decided to get all the guys together so
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: that Martel and Marcel are able to finally address their
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: long standing feud. Claudia, to catch you up on what's
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: been going on since day one, long story, short years
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: ago maybe ten years ago, no, I think he said nine.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Nine years ago.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Martel and Marcel decided to.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Go into business together and have a company named Scote
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: so it's Scott's and Hope Merge as one they called
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: it scope, okay. Martel is alleging that Marceau was on
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: hard times being a manager at the movie theater getting
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: fired for that's what he's saying, and that he was
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: in bad times and that's why Martel decided being in
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: good a good space financially to even have this company.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: What happened is a few years later they decided to
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: disband the company and Martel decided to give Marcel the
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: name and walked away from it.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: What has been sort of a top of conversation ever
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: since then is Marcel and Martel being an odds alleged
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: cheating scandals. Martel has alledged to that Marcel has slept
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: in twenty women while he was married.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Martel did a YouTube interview.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: With a woman alleging to be one of Marcel's lady
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: friends that he slept with, and this is how everything
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: started to unravel in it when it came to their friendship.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: So in this conversation, they really were throwing digs at
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: each other.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: But Dustin, you have.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Been around since season one, watching all of this for
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: the past ten seasons, what do you think is the
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: root of Martel at Marceau's issues.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: A lack of accountability on Martell's behalf. That's what I think.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I think that Martel has been running from taking accountability
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: with the fact that he broke his family up and
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: that had overreaching impacts into their friendship circle, and he
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: is constantly running away from the acceptance and acknowledgment of
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: that fact, and it affects every area of his life
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: that we as viewers have been exposed to. So that's
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: what I think is the root of all that. Again,
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: you can't start a story at the end, in the middle,
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: or at the end. You have to start at the beginning.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: And the root of their conflict came from Marceaul.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Marceul laid it out.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: He laid it out, He told jokes about something that
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: he thought was fodder amongst the group, lighthearted jokes. Martel
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: took issue with that because Martel was facing a lot
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: of accusations right which belonged in his lap, but he
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: was facing a lot at one time, and he decided
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: to act out towards Marceau in that way.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: We saw him go way far with that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Accused Latsia of sleeping with other people at some times
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: back in the day, bringing up things from back in
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: the day to try to make them look bad, right,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: bringing up guys that said they had a sexual relationship
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: with her at a time when she was an adult
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: and single and able to do so. Bringing up the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: fact that Marceau was managing that movie theater to try
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: to diminish him or look like he was at a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: low earning job and was seeking some sort of relief
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: and help from Martel in partnership with him on scold.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: That's why he brought all that up. You bringing those
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: things up to make him look like he needed your
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: help at one point. These are things that have nothing
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: to do with literally the root of your issue. And
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: so all that deflection, all that the accusations he threw.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: While you can ask questions about the fidelity of Marceaul
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: and Latsia's Latisa Scott, you could ask questions about the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: fidelity of their marriage, but that don't have shit to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: do with what Martel did and what he took umbrage
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: with Marcel Scott for in the first place. You ain't
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: gotta like Marceau, You ain't gotta like le Tisa Scott.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: You ain't gotta like them. You can have you can
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: have very real feelings and opinions about the ways that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: they have shown up in other relationships amongst the cast.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: But if we talking about Martel and Marceaul, the fracture
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: of the relationship we were presented with Martella's at fault.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: That's just what it is.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this about Martella. If I was any
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: of the male cast members on this show, I would
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: never confide or tell him anything ever. Again, He's the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: type of person that when he's on the hot seat,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: he's gonna blow the whole thing up and bring everybody
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: down with him. He can't just stand in his truth
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: and his lane and say let's just talk about like
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: they can't, you know, and you have a conversation like
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: about you, you gotta be well, when you did this,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: when you did that, when you did this, well, fuck it.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: If I'm going down, everyone's going out. He reminds me
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: of the scene in the movie Why Did I Get
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: Married To with all the dinner table and everyone's like, oh, okay, okay,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: we're telling secrets. Well, why don't you tell your wife
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: about where you're taking you know, antibiotics. Oh okay, we're
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: doing that, Well, why don't you say that's.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: What Martella is doing that's his whole thing.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: And yes, he was in the hot seat for a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: long time from his own actions, and now he's not
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: so much on the hot seat like he's been in
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: the past. He feeling himself a little bit. So now
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: he's like getting everybody back. But when things were rough
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: for him, that's what it feels like to me. I'm
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: you know, it seems like he's like the way he
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: did that, like I know this guy code right, and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: you know, you can't trust someone if in good times
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: all the things I tell you now or you know
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: you're gonna just put me on blasts on television like
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: that to use it in a tactic to win a fight.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: I only would do that if it's someone I never ever, ever,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: ever ever care to ever be around ever again.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: I'll be cool with.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: That's when you burn the whole thing down, Like he's
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: still kind of like one foot on, you know, he's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: straddling the fence, like you're I don't get how he's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: like going scorch to earth on everyone like that.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: To me, my thing is to Claudia, like what the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: fuck we supposed to do with that? Right?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: If anything, nigga, you laid up in the room while
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: they was fucking these other women, You was going on
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: trips with it. If what you're saying is true, you
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: are just as complicit, And don't tell me about it
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: now when you was alright with it before your shit
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: hit the fan and before your shit came out.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: I can't stand people like that. You just as bad.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: That don't make you look more pious or make you
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: look like you are you have any integrity. You kept
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: the line going as long as it served you, and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: I can't stand motherfuckers like that. Don't tell me something
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: somebody did to me or how they wronged me, when
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: you were all right with them wronging me allegedly.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: You know, you laughing about it before.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: No, no, he does.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: He does give that. He's crashing out right now, but
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: he's trying to act cool and like I even know
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: the time he answered questions, his voice goes up. That's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: a sign of man's line. Okay, person, when the register
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: goes up like that, and he's like, he's just interested
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: in trying to humiliate the other man, and that's that's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: his defense mechanism, and that's I mean, that's very similar
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: to what the housewives do. So at this point, March
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: hopes give him a peach because he's earned it at
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: this point, being a messy up. He's being messy, he
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: being like one of the he's one of the girls
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: So worth I do what to talk about is doing
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: that conversation. Obviously it's it's between the two of them,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: but there's four different men in the room, and a
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: lot of the men who were there just felt like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: these two are getting anywhere. One of the things that
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: was talked about is did you guys get a sense
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: of what people are saying? And it's that these are
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: two theories and I want you to to tell me
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: your thoughts on it. Okay, Based on this scene, two
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: theories arose on social media. The first theory is the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: form of jealousy. Okay, there's people who believe that Martel
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: is jealous of a success that Marceau has accumulated because
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: when he gave him the company, he did not think
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Marceau would do anything with it, and when he sees
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Marceau excelling, still.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Being married, having the family, having the job.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: There are people on social media who feels like the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: basis of that scene that we saw was because they
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: felt like Martel is shocked that Marceau has made something
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: out of the company that he gave them.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: I would say that, and like, listen, I'm not saying
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: the other guys are innocent. They very well may have
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: all done stuff right, and Marteau probably has some real
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: tea on them, because that's what happens when you're in
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: a friend circle. You guys do dirt together, right, But
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: he didn't have the same The other guys didn't have
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: the same consequences as Martel did. Martel has been on blast.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: We all know him to be the cheat of the narcissist,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: so he's probably like, damn we always getting grinme me,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: Why am I the only one getting single?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: Though, So he's paying.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Them back Like that was just and not to cut
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: you off, just to talk about it. That was theory
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: number two how people felt.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so he wants like it's like we rob the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: three of us go rob a bank together, right, and Carlos,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: you're the only one that really gets caught. But we
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: all did it together, kind of like Phaedra and Angelo,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: sant and Apollo, but really like all of them didn't
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: really get the same punishment, you know, so you would
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: feel a way if you're the one that actually served
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: the time and the other people didn't, you'd be like, nah, man,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: y'all guilty too.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: And I hate that no one's seeing it. And I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: think that's what he's feeling.
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  Speaker 6: If I had to like psychoanalyze with my limited you know, well,
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  Speaker 6: with my college education, I think that's what it is.
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  Speaker 6: He hates that the public doesn't see the other guys
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  Speaker 6: like they see him, That's what I think. And I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: think he wants them to get more dirt on them too.
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  Speaker 3: He almost feels like, I agree. I agree with Claudia
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 5: And listen, anybody would feel burdened right by the responsibility
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  Speaker 5: of carrying that title, right when people know the dirt
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: you've done and know something that you're not proud of.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: We saw his marriage implo, we know why, and a
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: lot of people have strong opinions. Audience is very passionate.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: The opinions get passionate. They take it very, very far
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  Speaker 5: beyond the television screen. And so I'm sure that Martel
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: faced a lot of you know, hard shit about what
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: he did. But to me, if you're a person who
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: is facing your truth or whatever. If this other person
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: is not involved in what you had going on, it's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: very immature to me to say, well, well, but.
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  Speaker 3: Look at what he did.
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  Speaker 5: Look at what he did with her that I knew
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: and didn't tell nobody because he did that with them,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: so be mad at them too. That's immaturity personified. And
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: so I don't care about the accusations that he sends
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: their way. Latissa Scott and Marceaul can work that out
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  Speaker 5: on their own time and whatever. They seem to have
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: it figured out according to whatever, feel how you want
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: to feel about their marriage. But to me, it's lame
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: as hell to be dragging other people's stuff that doesn't
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: have anything to do with your situation into the forefront
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: when you simply don't want to face accountability, tired of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: people telling you you're a bad person, which anybody would be,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: but that doesn't give you license then to go try
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: to bring other people in there, bullshit that has nothing
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  Speaker 5: to do with what you have going on, what you're
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: being held to the fire for, so to speak, into
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: the fold. It's just an immature take at the end
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: of the day, and that's why it doesn't make It
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: doesn't win him any points. To say, Okay, well they
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: was cheating with him too, so and I knew about it,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: so now you know what I'm saying, Like, So what,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: my nigga, you just you look even worse.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Like you look even worse in that situation. So That's
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: where I'm at with it.
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  Speaker 6: Carlos, as your producer with your producer hat on, well
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: execut producer, show creator, do you think that if Martel
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  Speaker 6: would just like stand on it right, regardless of what
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: the other what the smoke the other guys are or
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: are not getting, if he would have earlier on in
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: his career said I messed up. I'm going to take
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: accountability for what I did and be a change man.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: I think he would go from being the least the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: most hated to the most love. He's an attractive man,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: he is charismatic, he's fun to look at, but like
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: I think that's the thing that holds him back is
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: that he refuses and then he goes petty. I think
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: it would make him look like a grown man. Do
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: you think he's capable of doing that? Well?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I think this, I think based on the earlier season.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Dustin you, I would love to hear your thoughts too,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: because you watch it since then, the infidelity that happened
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: in their marriage was discussed episode one.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I've Seenzon one, Claudia.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: It was it was out the gate, and by episode
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: three is when he revealed to his boys at the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: time it was Mark Tello Marie that he did Steposts
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: out of his marriage. So it wasn't anything that wasn't
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: kept a secret like like like it was since episode one.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: It was out there that they had, you know, the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: infidelity happened. I think what's happening is it's been this
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: sort of accusations flying right from everybody involved. And what
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: people don't understand, and that's why they'll always ask me
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: questions and I always tell them those three couples were
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: friends for six years before I even stepped in the picture.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: They have a history of friendship, and Clauda is its
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: equivalent to if I came in and you and any
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: have an issue and then all of a sudden people
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: are like, well, Carlos is about that. I'm like, they've
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: been friends for decades. Yeah, we would have to spend
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: thirty years telling that story. And one thing that I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: will say, and I've even said this on the air
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: at the reunion and I stand on this till this day.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: I think all of them know way more about each
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: other than they have sat on the show. And I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: know that I know that may sound weird to a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: lot of people.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: I I strongly believe in my heart of hearts that yes,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: thing's got messy, a lot of a lot of stuff.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I've been said that it's abhor it.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: I still believe there's a lot of stuff that have
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: yet to be said, because I do feel like, in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: some strange way I get an audience, there is still
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: this fine line of.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: What not to cross. If that makes no sense, right,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you keep the line has been crossed.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if we're sitting here, I'm with my
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: wife and you say that it took me, I'm not
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: gonna go.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: We're not gonna get too deep in the minutia of
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: all this. Yeah, but yes, I do believe a line
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: has been crossed at this point. I think that that's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: why Marceau's take was so final on it. Marceaul was like,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: I don't need no apology, I don't need nothing from you.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: I'm not interested in resolved. You just stay in your space.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: I stay in mind. He wasn't interested in because he
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: said that he felt like Tell was going to repeat
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: the behavior, and based on what we've seen, he has now. Listen,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: Martell is not the first person that made a mistake
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: and stepped out of their marriage or repeated a mistake
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: and did that.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: But after that, we've seen him literally be nasty.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: We've seen him go low, We've seen him run from accountability,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: and all of these things that compile ill two us
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: not having a trust with him as an audience.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: When we watched the show, Martell had opportunity after opportunity
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: and continues to have opportunity because he hasn't done it yet. Right,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: He continues to have an opportunity to kind of reroute
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: and change his approach to everything that we've been exposed
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: to about his very personal.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Business, right, but he won't do that.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: Instead, he chooses to find something else slatious to introduce,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: or find something else to try to expose, or he's
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: pointing at everybody but himself.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: And that's what we're getting on the screen.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: And that's why I think it's hard for some people,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: because I'm sure he got people that connect with him
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: and want to see him win, like we all do.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see nothing bad happen to Martell,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: but he don't want to see nothing good happen to
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: himself based on what the fuck we're seeing on the show.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: And that's where the challenge comes in. So I think, yes, Claudia,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: to your point earlier. I think if he had stood
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: in it and been like, I made a mistake and
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: I feel bad about that, but motherfucker you're wrong for this,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: Da da da, I think people would have a totally
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: different reception from him. It's all this stuff, and then
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: we're exposed to stuff that goes on outside of the show,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: and all this shit. It's hard to kind of see
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: him as a person who is even seeking that sort
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: of redemption for his image or for what people think
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: about his character. We don't even know if he wants it.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: M M. I don't think he does. I think he's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: you know, you know, when you have an argument with
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: someone or you have an issue with like someone you're dating,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: our friend, and you're like, you know, I have to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: tell you something about something that you said that bothers me,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: and you want them to hear you and receive it.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: Process it and then you know, and instead of them
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: listening to you as soon as you're done talking to go,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: but you did this to me, and you're like, wait, wait,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: let's let's start with what you did first, and then
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: we'll get to that. And you never get any result
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: with those kinds of contents. Because I'm not saying that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: that everybody else is innocent. I'm not saying that Martell
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: is the only bad guy here, the only one that.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that, but the way his approach to
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: it makes it hard to empathize for him or sympathize
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: sympathize for him when and now we're not talking about
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: what Marceau may have done because we're just stuck on
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: what Martell did because of how he responds. It's like, yeah,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: because the co Saw comment was kind of that was
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: kind of a little sague, wasn't it.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 7: The co saw side the side thing he said he wanted.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: To he went and he said it too. He said
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: it in the scene. I'm saying, it's a rattle this cage.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: He said it, you know what I'm saying. I think
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: that's the difference you see when Marcel does when Marcel,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: when Martel does and says things he says, He just
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: says them and tries to divert the attention.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: At least. Marceau is like, yeah, I'm saying it to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: funk with him.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, like I said no.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing, and that's the reason why you know,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: when you watch the scene isn't going anywhere because it
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: was digs after digs, and when your intention is to
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: just throw out the worst dig to one up each other,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: it's hard to listen to each other.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: And that's why next week they are going to.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Have a one on one sit down without anybody to
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: really see if they're able to come to an agreement
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: of how to move forward in all of this, because
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: it did get to a point where they just weren't
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: hearing each other and and and that goes to show
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: you that is because look, they're hurt, and it's it's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's evident.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next week.
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  Speaker 4: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with The Lack
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  Speaker 4: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube
• 1:16:02
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• 1:16:14
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• 1:16:17
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