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Hee-Hee... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: Hello, friends, Welcome in After Show podcast. I'm happy to
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  Speaker 1: be here. It's Monday, April twenty seventh, after a weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I hope it was a great weekend. It was a
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  Speaker 1: fantastic one for me. I had a date night with
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  Speaker 1: the wife, went out to eat, went to Tits tapping
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  Speaker 1: in the square.
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  Speaker 2: My brother calls it that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess other people do too, but it was good
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  Speaker 1: at Tuscan. And then we went to the movies to
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  Speaker 1: see the Michael Jackson movie, which I loved. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was great. A lot of people say they didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it, or you know that it got bad scores
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  Speaker 1: on Rotten Tomatoes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. I liked it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the performances were great, the music was great,
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  Speaker 1: Jaafar Jackson, Coleman Domingo as Joe Jackson fantastic. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with Michael's music. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was a whole part of his life that wasn't included.
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  Speaker 1: But they didn't tease a sequel at the end. You know,
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  Speaker 1: his story continues, so I think they're going to go
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  Speaker 1: into post nineteen eighty eight, so after you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, bad that whole era, and then into the.
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  Speaker 1: Nineties, which is how I remember Michael, you know, as
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  Speaker 1: a kid. I remember the black or White video with
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  Speaker 1: McCauley culkin. You know, that was at a time when
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  Speaker 1: McAuley culkin was like the biggest star in the world.
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  Speaker 1: And then Scream with Janet kind of that era. Remember
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  Speaker 1: the time I was too young for thriller beat It,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of remember. But it's been really cool listening
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  Speaker 1: to his music, watching his videos, and you know, some
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  Speaker 1: of the performances they show in the movie, watching the
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  Speaker 1: real ones on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: That's been cool too. So check it out.
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  Speaker 1: If you've seen it, leave a talk back, let me know,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm really interested to see if other people liked
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  Speaker 1: it as much as me. But there were some moments
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  Speaker 1: in there that were really you really felt for Michael Man.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I already knew that that he had this
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  Speaker 1: really weird childhood.
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  Speaker 2: He had no friends. All he had was animals.
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  Speaker 1: He had He had a monkey Bubbles, who's still alive
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  Speaker 1: by the way, giraffes, lamas, all this crazy stuff. But again,
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  Speaker 1: the timeline was off as I read and I fact
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  Speaker 1: check a lot of it, Like the monkey Bubbles, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that came later than when it really came. Another part
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  Speaker 1: was his bodyguard, Bill Bray, who I didn't know who
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  Speaker 1: it was when he was a kid. His father when
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  Speaker 1: he blew up. They moved to Encino from Gary, Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: They were in this tiny house. They bought this big,
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  Speaker 1: big mansion, and his father introduced Michael to Bill Bill Bray,
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  Speaker 1: and he became his bodyguard for the next twenty five
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  Speaker 1: or thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: So he's in a lot of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Everywhere that Michael went, Bill Bray was there, and he
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  Speaker 1: became like a father figure to him. And that's really true.
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  Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent accurate. He was one of Michael's
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  Speaker 1: closest confidence. Not only did he protect him, but he
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  Speaker 1: was in on business dealings. He'd go to him for
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  Speaker 1: advice about business and you know, fatherly advice. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a cool moment when he at the end when
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  Speaker 1: he finally separates from his father. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this is true or not, but Michael walks away
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  Speaker 1: from his dad. You know, his dad's like, you're not
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  Speaker 1: leaving us, You're not leaving the family, You're not going solo.
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  Speaker 1: And he walks away and then Bill steps in and
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  Speaker 1: he's like it's over. Joe, So I thought that was cool,
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  Speaker 1: and then I read up the true story. Apparently he
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  Speaker 1: retired in ninety five. They did have a falling out.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know.
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  Speaker 1: No one knows why. They didn't say why in the
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  Speaker 1: early nineties, but then they kind of reconciled. He retired
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  Speaker 1: in ninety five, and then he died in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and five, and Michael kept paying him paid for all
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  Speaker 1: of his medical expenses, so that was cool. They showed
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  Speaker 1: the pepsi incident where his hair caught on fire. I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. The thriller stuff was cool. So check
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  Speaker 1: it out and let me know. Leave a talk back
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  Speaker 1: and let me know what you think. We'd love to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you on the talk back for the after show.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, justin love the after show question for you? So
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  Speaker 3: I know you were on this Living on the streets
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  Speaker 3: one time. There are several people around my work that
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  Speaker 3: are homeless, and I often give them food. Is that
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  Speaker 3: a bad thing? Am I encouraging something I shouldn't. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like if you're homeless, you still deserve to be
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  Speaker 3: seen and helped, And yes, sometimes I do give them money. Heyks,
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  Speaker 3: love you bye.
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  Speaker 2: I love you too. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: There was no no problem with giving food to them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they might not want that. They want usually
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  Speaker 1: they want money. If they're an active addiction, what's in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of cases they are. That's that was my story, right,
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  Speaker 1: But there is nothing wrong with helping them. I would
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  Speaker 1: say food over money, just because I mean, what are
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  Speaker 1: they gonna do. They're gonna buy alcohol, They're gonna buy food.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but nothing wrong with the food. It
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  Speaker 1: brings me back to this story. I've told this on
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  Speaker 1: the air before, probably the podcast as well. I was
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  Speaker 1: homeless in Boston and I was standing in front of
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  Speaker 1: the garden in the pizza place there, if you have
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  Speaker 1: the name of it, and I was asking for money, right,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me to have a dollar so I can get
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  Speaker 1: something to eat.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, you have any extra change.
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  Speaker 1: I'm standing out there and this guy walks in.
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  Speaker 2: I ask him.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, not on any money on me. He walks
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  Speaker 1: into the pizza place. So I'm standing out there. Keep stemming.
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  Speaker 1: This's what they call it. They call it stemming when
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  Speaker 1: you ask for money. And then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: I hear like a excuse me, sir. I turned around
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  Speaker 1: and said God that I had just asked for money.
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  Speaker 1: And he had a slice on a plate and he goes, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I got you a slice of pizza. And I looked
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  Speaker 1: at him and I was so annoyed. Now, mind you,
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  Speaker 1: I had just asked him for money for pizza, and
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  Speaker 1: I was so because I was sick, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was dope sick.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't feeling good. And he hands me the pizza
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  Speaker 2: and I go, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Want that, and all annoying. You kind of even know
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  Speaker 1: what to do, just like turned them ound and walked away.
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  Speaker 1: But that was kind of where I was at.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, keep doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Keep if you this extra food, give them food the
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  Speaker 1: money thing, eh, I mean you can always you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know people love that are homeless. Things like socks,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the cold weather, or a T shirt, even
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  Speaker 1: a cheap T shirt, because think about it, you wearing
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  Speaker 1: the same clothes every day. You know, I went weeks
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  Speaker 1: without showering, just just wearing the same underwear, and I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. So yeah, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for the talkback. God it brings me back so many
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  Speaker 1: memories man of just oh, just a tough time in
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  Speaker 1: my life. So my good friend Alan, he's my sauna buddy.
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  Speaker 1: He comes over to my house, you know, many times
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  Speaker 1: during the week and we have Sona and we kind
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  Speaker 1: of have these sessions, which sound weird because we sit
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  Speaker 1: in the sauna together and you know, it's it's hot
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  Speaker 1: and we're sweating, and we do the ice bath too,
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  Speaker 1: But it's a great kind of therapy thing where we
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  Speaker 1: talk about all types of stuff, right. We talk about
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  Speaker 1: our lives and our marriages because you know, we're his
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  Speaker 1: wife's friends and my wife, so we kind of chat about.
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  Speaker 2: Things going on, good or bad. And we talked about
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  Speaker 2: our addiction.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about prison, and it's really cool because you
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  Speaker 1: kind of relive these things, you know, these memories you
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  Speaker 1: think back to, you know, because his story will trigger
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  Speaker 1: a story for me. But it always goes back to
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  Speaker 1: how grateful we are to not.
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  Speaker 2: Live there anymore. We don't.
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  Speaker 1: We try it to glorify it, at least I don't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And he doesn't neither. Like he knows, he
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  Speaker 1: does never wants to go back to prison, as neither
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  Speaker 1: do I, you know. But those who forget are doomed
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  Speaker 1: to repeat. So just when she was I was telling
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  Speaker 1: that story about being homeless, I was thinking about that
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  Speaker 1: stuff yesterday with him, thinking back to you know, those
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  Speaker 1: days when all I wanted was to get forty dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That's my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: Every single day was centered around getting forty dollars for
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  Speaker 1: a bag of drugs. And believe me, it was hard,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I had ups and downs. I had
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  Speaker 1: times when I was making a lot of money doing
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  Speaker 1: whatever hustle I was doing. But then there were those
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  Speaker 1: times when you're down right when the hustle runs out,
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  Speaker 1: when you, you know, have a hustle going where you
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  Speaker 1: can make money, whether it's stealing or asking somebody for
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  Speaker 1: money or being a middleman to get stuff, but then
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  Speaker 1: it all runs dry and then you have nothing, which
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  Speaker 1: is where I was in that pizza place where I
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  Speaker 1: had nothing. I had no hope of getting any kind
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  Speaker 1: of money, and stemming on the street was a last resort.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to do that. So yeah, not anymore. Now.
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  Speaker 1: My biggest concern is, you know, am I gonna do
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  Speaker 1: the Sonnet tonight? You know, it's like that's what I
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  Speaker 1: love doing. I love self care, and I love health
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  Speaker 1: and fitness and working out. You know, it's just because
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  Speaker 1: it kind of gives me that same feeling.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what I mean. You know it does
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  Speaker 2: something to me. Well, I know what it does.
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  Speaker 1: It releases endorphins and in a way gets me high,
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  Speaker 1: just like the drugs got me high, but it's in
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  Speaker 1: a more positive way. So that's the addictive behavior that's
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  Speaker 1: inside me. Every day when I wake up on my
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  Speaker 1: way to work, I think about the sauna at night,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to get through my day, go to work,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna work out, and then I'm gonna hit the
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  Speaker 1: sauna at like five point thirty, hit the ice bath
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  Speaker 1: because I know that's getting me high in a sense.
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  Speaker 2: I know that really sounds sick, but it's true, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I look at the.
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  Speaker 1: Gym the same way. You know, I love working out.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's hard, yes, but I love doing it
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  Speaker 1: because it is a hard thing and I do get
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  Speaker 1: a benefit out of it. I love the feeling when
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  Speaker 1: I'm walking out of the gym, especially at the tough workouts.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Saturday and Sunday. At drive my gym that
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  Speaker 1: I go to, I do classes. I do a circuit
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  Speaker 1: class Saturday and a high rocks class Sunday, which are
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  Speaker 1: both extremely difficult I mean very intense, but I'm building
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  Speaker 1: the cardio up because the high Rocks races are coming up,
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  Speaker 1: so I gotta be ready for that. Anyway, new week,
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  Speaker 1: new endless list of possibilities of things we can talk
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  Speaker 1: about on the Apter Show. So tomorrow I have a
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  Speaker 1: doctor's appointment. I'll do the Apter Show, of course, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I try to go five days a week. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to get producer Riley on because I think
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  Speaker 1: she has an update to the guy she's seeing.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard it yet.
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  Speaker 1: Billy told me there is an update and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's good, so I'll try to get her on maybe
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: But as always, join the talkbacks after the after show
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  Speaker 1: on the iHeart app If you saw the Michael Jackson movie,
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  Speaker 1: let me know. Any other questions comments will always feel
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  Speaker 1: free to leave them. I'll play them and then I
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  Speaker 1: will answer back. That's how the Apter Show works, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Peace,