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Siri Gets Smart, Steam Gets Scammed on TechtalkRadio | EP 482 · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 2: Which we have something to talk about. We have some
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  Speaker 2: to talk about this week.
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  Speaker 1: Always always some fun, a lot of stuff as a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, you know, and it's we were thinking
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  Speaker 1: about maybe doing you know, doing one of our best
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  Speaker 1: and everything, and we just realized, no, we can't. There's
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  Speaker 1: just so much stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That has a lot stuff to happen this week.
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  Speaker 1: So first off, and I know we can talk about
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  Speaker 1: it without getting too much flak from Justine.
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  Speaker 2: Justin's not here.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, it would be the Worldwide Developers Conference, which at
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  Speaker 1: record time is actually still happening. They've got a couple
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  Speaker 1: more days, but the you know, they usually the keynote,
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  Speaker 1: the last note that Tim Cook from Apple has been doing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's so weird because you know, I follow
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  Speaker 1: some people in social media and They've been posting photos
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  Speaker 1: of themselves with the new CEO out at the event,
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  Speaker 1: like this guy's really cool. He you know, he gets
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  Speaker 1: gets out there with the people and you know, communicate.
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  Speaker 1: It should be interesting to see what he's what direction
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  Speaker 1: he's able to lead Apple in.
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  Speaker 2: Apple spent the last two years telling us that Apple
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  Speaker 2: Intelligence was coming right right, and during WWC twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: they finally are trying to prove it. I guess so it,
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  Speaker 2: you know. The biggest amount also wasn't iOS twenty seven,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the Mac because I was surprised a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised we didn't see another macneo or an
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  Speaker 2: update on what's coming next. Wasn't Vision Pro, which that's
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  Speaker 2: the thing still like.
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  Speaker 1: What okay, but they're still developing right right, They're still
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  Speaker 1: developing it.
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  Speaker 2: And and there's you know, at NAP this year, Black
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  Speaker 2: Magic released they released their dubbed double Lensed Immersion six sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: K uh god, what's the name of that camera? One
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  Speaker 2: of their cinema cameras. I can't even remember the name.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like they're still doing creating a ton of
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  Speaker 2: content for it because it's still there. It's just like
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  Speaker 2: not it's weird because it's like it's there. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 2: making it, they're spending money on it. Who's buying it?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I want to know. Uh So the big
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  Speaker 2: topic was Siri. Yeah, right, Well.
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  Speaker 1: To think about it when it comes to I mean
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  Speaker 1: the Apple products, the Apple you know, the Macintosh product Max,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the laptops, the Neo, that's that stuff is good.
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  Speaker 1: But let's face it, something that every most everybody has
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  Speaker 1: these days is some kind of you know, a communication device,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a tablet or they have, you know, a smartphone,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Apple really wants people to and start
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  Speaker 1: using the iPhone. And you know, last week it kind
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  Speaker 1: of reminded me last week when I was having so
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  Speaker 1: many problems with Gemini, which I've only got fixed, and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't end up taking it to the story. I
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  Speaker 1: ended up doing a couple other things in the settings,
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  Speaker 1: you know Android, the way they set up their settings.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes one setting will affect another, that setting will affect
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  Speaker 1: It's just crazy. But I ended up getting it back
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  Speaker 1: to work. I got my Gemini back, and I had
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  Speaker 1: thought about that, I have an iPhone, I've got the
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  Speaker 1: fourteen promacs, and I thought I could just go back
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  Speaker 1: to the iPhone because honestly, without the Gemini and the
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  Speaker 1: way that I use it, being able to get an
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  Speaker 1: answer to something really quick when I need it, being
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  Speaker 1: able to just see, you know, make my phone call,
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  Speaker 1: the whole bit, I thought, maybe you just go back
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  Speaker 1: to the iPhone if I'm not going to have the use. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Apple doesn't want people to move from their
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  Speaker 1: iPhones to move to their to you know, the Android platform,
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  Speaker 1: because they may have a better a better way of
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  Speaker 1: AI being a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, Apple's are a hard spot, right because
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  Speaker 2: they tried to do their own AI stuff and it
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  Speaker 2: was garbage. Yeah, and it's it's stunk. Nobody liked it.
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  Speaker 2: It was not integrated very well. It just kind of
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  Speaker 2: it broke the seamless use of your iPhone. It broke
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  Speaker 2: it broke the seamless use of the iOS environment, right,
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  Speaker 2: the the Apple cross platform environment. So it's struggled, right,
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  Speaker 2: So Apple essentially admitted that traditional voice assistants weren't enough anymore,
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  Speaker 2: and they've now completely rebuilt an AI powered serie. They
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  Speaker 2: say it's designed to be more conversational. Remember context, understand
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  Speaker 2: what's on your screen. So again, right, so I understand
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  Speaker 2: what's underscreen. Is this being processed locally? Is this being
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  Speaker 2: processed in the cloud? Where where's the processing happening?
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  Speaker 1: Right? It?
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  Speaker 2: Is it a local language machine? Is a cloud based?
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  Speaker 2: Is it? So they're trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: That that's the answers. We don't know yet, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we just know that apparently it's going to be coming out, uh,
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  Speaker 1: And that's the big question everybody has. They talk about
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  Speaker 1: it at these developer conferences. Microsoft used to do theirs
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  Speaker 1: as well, and they would talk about these things, but
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  Speaker 1: we might not see them for six months, a year sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe even two or three years.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see it for the next you know, the
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  Speaker 2: late fall iPhone, the new iPhone release or whatever their hardware.
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  Speaker 2: Their hardware event is in September usually.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they're they're saying they're calling it Serie AI, all right,
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  Speaker 1: so that's what it would be called. Uh. And they're
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  Speaker 1: saying that it won't be available broadly until it launches
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  Speaker 1: public for iOS twenty seven, which they say could happen
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  Speaker 1: this fall. And you know, the thing is people in
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  Speaker 1: the meantime, if they're suddenly needing a smartphone, will an
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  Speaker 1: Apple user. Wait, I think they will. And are Apple
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  Speaker 1: users going to ingest this type? Are they really are
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  Speaker 1: they really interested in in AI?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, right, but it to me, it just
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  Speaker 2: feels like it's going to be the series just going
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  Speaker 2: to be the annoying type. A voice chat, tell me
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  Speaker 2: what my schedule is, write my schedule, dowt, give you
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  Speaker 2: my calendar advice, just remind me of these things. Right,
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  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, last year they announced Apple Intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: This year they spread it throughout the entire ecosystem, Right,
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  Speaker 2: So it's not here's one AI app. There seems like
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  Speaker 2: their theme was every app should quietly get smurder. That's
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  Speaker 2: kind of what their theme was, right, that's I think
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  Speaker 2: that's one of the polls directly from the from the show.
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  Speaker 2: But it's gonna be weird, right.
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  Speaker 1: There was a story Sean and you being an iPhone user,
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  Speaker 1: and it makes me wonder and I kind of believe this.
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  Speaker 1: Nine to five Mac reported not long ago that iPhone
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  Speaker 1: brand loyalty hit a record high, and they say that
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  Speaker 1: Android users were apparently switching at four times a rate
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  Speaker 1: that they have in the past. So somebody who've maybe
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  Speaker 1: been using a Samsung or a Google Pixel for a
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  Speaker 1: long time, we're suddenly going into the Apple interface and
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  Speaker 1: using the iPhones.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that they are riding high on the
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  Speaker 2: success of the Neo.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's been six months, I think almost six months,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even longer since the Neo is announced. Right, It's
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  Speaker 2: sold out, It's been widely popular, and you haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: anybody from the Windows side develop a product that can
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  Speaker 2: compete with the Neo at any level battery power size.
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  Speaker 2: The Neo is the Geo Metro of the car world. Right,
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  Speaker 2: It's the three cylinder little piecea that just goes. Everybody's reliable,
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  Speaker 2: it's fuel efficient, right, and that takes loyalty. Right. It's
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  Speaker 2: if you can, if you can get somebody to go
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  Speaker 2: from Windows steet to Apple. The ecosystem for your PC
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  Speaker 2: is tied into what they did this with Tahoe, with
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  Speaker 2: iOS twenty say, they seamlessly integrated a cross platform experience.
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  Speaker 2: Your experience is almost identical whether you're on iPad, Mac iMac, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: Mac Mini desktop or iOS. Right, and to be able
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  Speaker 2: to seamlessly go between your messages, your music, everything seamlessly
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  Speaker 2: between all your apps, it's fantastic. Great for me I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the Mac ecosystem for the majority of my work.
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  Speaker 2: I have Max at home, but my primary my primary
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  Speaker 2: machine at home is Windows, but my family is iPhone.
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  Speaker 2: So seamlessly moving between the ability to airdrop, the ability
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  Speaker 2: to share stuff, the ability to text, the ability to
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  Speaker 2: have it all stored in the I cloud. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: a great ecosystem to be in. And I'm sure Justin
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  Speaker 2: would say that, you know, Google has all that and
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  Speaker 2: you can tie it all in and Apple just takes
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  Speaker 2: what other companies have and but and I think Justin
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  Speaker 2: Woods would argue with me on this. But the Apple
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  Speaker 2: stuff just works, and it works the same every time.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't change with updates. They add some
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  Speaker 2: new stuff, but they don't break things at the level
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  Speaker 2: that I think that Android does when they do a
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  Speaker 2: big update. They don't do or u I redesign that's
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  Speaker 2: out of control. I mean, the last big iOS update
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  Speaker 2: had liquid glass and a couple of other features, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not it's not something out of left field that
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  Speaker 2: makes the user go, well, that was a bad choice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think the I think the iPhone is
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  Speaker 1: easy to use. The pixel was good, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it still works for me and doing what I
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  Speaker 1: need to do. But you know, I look back and
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  Speaker 1: I harken back to what I was able to get
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  Speaker 1: get done with the iPhone, especially with video. With video,
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  Speaker 1: I could edit, you know, with the you know, with
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  Speaker 1: the the program that was a part of the iPhone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was, it was. I love that it
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  Speaker 1: was all in one, very easy to do. The quality
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  Speaker 1: was always good, it was very Now the quality on
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  Speaker 1: the cameras on the Pixel got much better, and the
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  Speaker 1: Android obviously much better, but for what I was using.
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  Speaker 1: I just recently installed the black Magic Design app on
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  Speaker 1: my iPhone and I'm really pleased with that too. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it just again makes me think about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've heard of full movie shot on an iPhone. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what. We haven't heard a full movie shot
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  Speaker 1: on an Android.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what apps are. Again, I'm not in that platform, not
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  Speaker 2: in that world, so I don't know. But I know
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  Speaker 2: that with iPhone, with the black Magic app that allows
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  Speaker 2: you to unlock black Magic Raw, there are other applications
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  Speaker 2: that allow you to shoot pro Restra. The iPhone seventeen
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  Speaker 2: Pro can do log it's crazy what you can do
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: on a phone. And there's even some hardware add ons
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  Speaker 2: for phones that can give you professional outputs like sd
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  Speaker 2: HDSDI HDMI, and then you can get those into a
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  Speaker 2: professional working environment, which for me would be a benefit.
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  Speaker 2: To be able to get that into our routing system
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  Speaker 2: and be able to use it for our broadcasts would
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  Speaker 2: be pretty cool because you can you can tuck in
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  Speaker 2: an iPhone in a lot of unique spaces that you
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  Speaker 2: might not be able to fit traditional broadcast camera.
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  Speaker 1: So apparently this In this nine to five Mac article,
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  Speaker 1: they asked users why they remain loyal to the you know,
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  Speaker 1: Apple platform. Sixty point eight percent quoting there said that
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  Speaker 1: they simply preferred iOS, while a number also did so
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  Speaker 1: because they were invested in the ecosystem, about seventeen percent
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  Speaker 1: a little over that. Other reasons for preferring Apple were
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  Speaker 1: product reliability, ease of use, and trust in the company's
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  Speaker 1: privacy and security measures. And you know that's that's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing. Now that they're getting into serie AI, that
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  Speaker 1: question suddenly comes up, Now, how are they protecting a
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  Speaker 1: privacy when it comes to that AI that's doing the
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  Speaker 1: processing right exactly. We've known iPhone as being Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: being a probably a little better secure product. Some people
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  Speaker 1: may disagree with me, but I think that is one
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  Speaker 1: of those things that people suddenly are gonna have more questions,
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  Speaker 1: is where is all that info going? Where is that
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  Speaker 1: data going?
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  Speaker 2: Right? And maybe that's why Apple took kind of took
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  Speaker 2: the back burner for a little while with AI because
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  Speaker 2: they saw that if they had to rely on open
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  Speaker 2: Ai or Gemini to do their AI stuff, maybe they
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  Speaker 2: just didn't like the way it had to handle the
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  Speaker 2: security and the data side of it. So we'll see, right,
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  Speaker 2: But again, the keynote wasn't just all about Siri and
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  Speaker 2: the iPhone right now, And we didn't even mention what
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  Speaker 2: iOS three seven is gonna be called.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the name of it again? Golden Gate,
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  Speaker 1: Golden Gate.
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  Speaker 2: So the whole it was very hip hippish, right, hipster ish.
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  Speaker 2: They had an hippie ish, I mean not hipsterish, yeah right.
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  Speaker 2: They had a Volkswagen drive by while he was standing
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  Speaker 2: up there. They did this weird like seventies disco era
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  Speaker 2: warping with the words and the text and stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: the major theme, the major themes for iOS twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: or Mac OS twenty seven. They say it's better searches.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. Now they talk
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  Speaker 2: about on your own computer searching, because any computer user
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  Speaker 2: knows that when you try to search something from your
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: on your own computer using the finder or the search
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  Speaker 2: function on a Windows machine is garbageful. It's awful, like
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  Speaker 2: you never find what you're looking for.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's the file. Oh there goes my whole search.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so faster launches. So I'm assuming they're just optimizing
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: the UI experience, and I guess people are thrilled because
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: you know how they it with with with Tahoe. They
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: did the route, they rounded, rounded everything, all the corners
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  Speaker 2: of the apps and stuff, but it wasn't consistent across apps.
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  Speaker 2: So people are apparently now across apps it's more refined,
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  Speaker 2: it's more it's streamlined, so you're not seeing weirdness between
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  Speaker 2: apps and window shapes and stuff like that. So people
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  Speaker 2: are not Apple with that continued AI integration within Mac
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  Speaker 2: os and then the refined liquid glass visuals.
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  Speaker 1: But now you're not using the newest iPhone. I know
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  Speaker 1: that you're aren't two on thirteen or you are.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Thirteen pro so little history on my history with Apple, right,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: so I bought an original. So if you go all
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: the way back to two thousand and eight, that's when
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: I bought my first iPhone. Oh wow, I bought a
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: used iPhone three G.
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  Speaker 1: I remember those.
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  Speaker 2: But I was just out of I think I was
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: twenty three and I didn't have a whole whole, huge
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: line of established credit. And the only vendor you could
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: get cell phone service was AT A T.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I took the phone to AT and T and
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, I'm on, I'll tell which is
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: now Verizon? Yeah, I want to I got I bought
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: an iPhone and I want to switch. And they're like, okay, great.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So they ran my credit and they're like, it's gonna
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: cost you five five hundred bucks to open a line
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: of this wow, because you don't have any credit. I
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean it's gonna cost you
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars? Like I have the phone and they're like, yeah,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: well you don't have any credit. We can't guarantee you're not.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Just like you're you you can't. I mean I was
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: twenty three, So like they just looking at me like
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I was kid. So I said, all right, deuces. See
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I'm out, yeah, yeah, and I walked away. So then
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I'd used it as an iPod, took pictures with it,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: put my pictures, played music on it, connected to Wi Fi.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: It was great. It was a glorified video iPod at
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: that point. And then I didn't buy an iPhone again
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  Speaker 2: until twenty eleven, when I bought the iPhone four S
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  Speaker 2: yeah right, And then I didn't buy another iPhone. I
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: think I have grades with the five maybe yeah, in
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: between then I didn't buy another iPhone until the seven
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  Speaker 2: plus Wow, which would have been twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: and then from then I didn't buy one until twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three, when I've got the iPhone thirteen Pro. So
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing multiple I've been doing multiple generational jumps
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  Speaker 2: with my iPhones, and I've been fine with it. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: everything I do on the iPhone thirteen Pro, I don't
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  Speaker 2: need the seventeen Pro. I don't need it. Yeah, I
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: don't need to spend the money on this phone is
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  Speaker 2: until this phone doesn't support the next upgrade. I'm not moving,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not changing.
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  Speaker 1: I heard in a news story and I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: wondering when they talked about again, back to Siri. They
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  Speaker 1: talked about Serie AI. You know, I heard one of
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  Speaker 1: the reporters say more than likely it won't work on
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  Speaker 1: older devices. I don't thinking. Okay, wait, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: clarify that, because a lot of us hold on to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: our iPhones for many generations, many you know, so we don't.
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  Speaker 1: Are they talking seven? Are they talking fourteen?
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  Speaker 2: The eleven? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So which which one are they talking about?
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  Speaker 2: So they're saying that this iOS twenty seven will support
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  Speaker 2: all the way back to the iPhone eleven?
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  Speaker 1: Oh good, all right?
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  Speaker 2: So which is cool? I mean, that's pretty that's pretty
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  Speaker 2: far back. So it's crazy to think you've got to
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  Speaker 2: they've got to optimize for that, for that chipset and
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  Speaker 2: the ability to run it.
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  Speaker 1: And another big question for you, Sean, being a thirteen user,
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  Speaker 1: even though iOS twenty seven would more than likely work
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  Speaker 1: on your device, would you at this point thirteen forty
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  Speaker 1: to fifty six, you know, would you look at going
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  Speaker 1: to a seventeen? No?
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  Speaker 2: No, I have no incentive to buy it, right And
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  Speaker 2: with all my iPhones, I've bought them from Apple directly,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I've not bought them from Verizon. I don't want to
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: be locked into a Verizon two year, three year agreement.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Whatever I buy them driving from Apple, I get Apple Care,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I do everything through Apple, and it's worked glorious to
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: me for the last I mean, I've had an iPhone
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: for two decades at this point, almost right, So it's
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: crazy to think, but I am just that rooted in
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the Apple ecosystem that it would be very difficult for
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: me to move from the Apple ecosystem. But no, I'm not.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't plan on upgrading. I don't unless
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: there's nothing. There's nothing that is driving me upgrade.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm wondering if anybody's sitting on the fence right
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: now that that is listening. You know, I thought about
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: going to iPhone. I don't know, is there good cohesion
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: cohesion when you have a tablet like you know, you
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: go and you buy yourself. You know, the iPad iPads
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: are pretty amazing. I mean, you could do a lot
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of stuff with the iPads. And then you say, well,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: if I get an eye iPhone, does the iPhone work well.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: With the iPad? Yes?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Or is it? Or pretty much that's its own, its
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: own thing.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's it's the same. It's literally it looks, feels, it
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: looks the same. Right, you can you can enable them
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to receive calling through your Apple ID, so you can
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: do all your face timing, audio face timing, you can
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: take phone calls on it, you can mirror your phone
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to it. If you have an entire Apple ecosystem. It's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: seamless across the applications. It's you can pick up certain
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: things and certain apps across devices. You can share it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: So like if I'm doing something in Facebook, like if
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I was on Facebook or Instagram or something, I can
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: pick it up right up in the iPad and then
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you can enable it to do it on your Mac.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So if you sit down at your Mac, you can
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: go seamlessly right into if you know, if you're using
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Chrome in your bookmarks, you can seamlessly pick up where
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you were left off in Chrome on your Mac or
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: on your iPad or on your iPhone. Sharing between them
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: is pretty seamless. The air drop and the iCloud and
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. So it's a great ecosystem, but it's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: it's kind of once you're in, it's a little culty.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Well why right, It's like, once you're in, you're in,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and it's not very easy to get out without some
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: pain and suffering.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of what justin uh. And
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you know, he's not here to defend himself, but I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: think that's kind of why he feels that way because
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: he's been around, you know, those users at work where
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he has worked that were strictly iPhone. That was that
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: was a iPhone iPad, you know, Mac, that's the way
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: it was. And you know, he came from a Windows environment,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and he may have had been an Apple user for
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a little while too, and you know he may have
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: had to break out of that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, yeah, my my in laws have Android.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: They have the newest Pixel. My my brother and sister
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: in law have Pixels. I've got other friends that are
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: adamant that they'll never buy an Apple device for Apple Phone, gotcha.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I really wouldn't mind the Neo. I mean the Neo.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a good starting ground for
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: somebody who decides maybe I want to try try the Mac.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I want to see what how that software could work
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I think I think what you're going to see with
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the Neo is I think it's going to be a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: education level Chromebook killer. Yeah, I think it's enough of
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a jump from a Chromebook that you get a little
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: bit of a better performance boost. It's price right for education,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: it's got the Mac. It's it's a it's a it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit more beat up. You're gonna use it
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit more.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: But only the only thing is the difference in price, though,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: because you can buy a basic Chromebook, you know, a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: basic educational laptop for about three hundred and forty nine dollars,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: where you you're going to spend ab what at six
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: hundred for you're gonna being six hundred dollars for this one.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but have you try Have you used chromebook? They're
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: they're so slow and dog and once you put them
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: into enrollment and emine management and stuff, they just get
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: so god awful slow.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Over the speed increase, it's certainly worth it for the Neo, Yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And you know I've used Neo and the it's weird
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: to use it. There's a couple. There's a few different
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: things that I when I got when I have my
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: hands on my coworker, my co worker bought a day one. Right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: there's no back let keyboard.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, yeah, right, So.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: There's no light coming through the letters on the keyboard.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So in the dark it's really hard to see. Now
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: he's got the Cobalt version, which is the darker bluish
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: gray version, and it's impossible to see the keys, Oh
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: boy at night. And the other the other weird thing
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was to they call it the side firing speakers, right,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: so the speakers or not, you know, on new other MacBooks,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like the speakers are either up up by the screen
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: or along the side of the surf like the keyboard surface.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: This one there actually there's like grooves along the sides
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: of the of the chassis that the sound comes out
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the sides like the left and the right side right.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So if you're a normal typer, and if you can
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: see my hands, like your hands are straight out right,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: so you're typing, So if you're typing while you're listening
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: to music or something. I sat down at my coworker's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: neo and and was just typing, you know, check, going
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to Google, just played around and I was like, man,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: why does this sound so weird? Because he was like touting, Oh,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: this sounds it's the best sounding MacBook I've ever heard,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and I'm using it, and I don't know if I'm
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: a chicken winger or what right? But when I type
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: on a keyboard, well, I armed, my elbows are out
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to my sides, right. So as soon as I put
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: my arms onto the knee yah, if you're following along
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: eighty and I are book around, so I'm I'm a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I rest like my forearms on the keyboard and then
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: type right, so I I fat palm the key, the keypad,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: all the track pad, all the time. As soon as
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I put my arms down over the edge of the computer,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it completely changed the dynamic of the sound because my
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: arms were over the edges and the sound was now
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: going either forward or backwards and not out to the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: sides anymore because they had to go around my arms. Yep.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And it changed. It changed the dynamic, changed the way
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I heard spoken word, It changed the way I heard
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the music, and it was driving me nuts. I couldn't
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: figure out why it sounded like crape. And then I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: picked up my arms. I was like, oh, that sounds better. Oh,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and then I put my arms back down, picked my
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: arms back up, so I don't know it. For me,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that was enough for me to go I don't It
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: was a it was a weird like audio visual thing
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: where I was trying to like listening to something on
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the screen, I'm going, why does this sound weird? Oh?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Moving my arms changed the the way I was hearing
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and perceiving the audio from the neo and it was weird.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So all right, we're gonna take quick break. We come
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: back listener questions. We've got a couple of great ones
• 25:10
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• 25:13
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• 25:14
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• 25:17
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• 25:21
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• 25:27
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• 25:29
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• 25:31
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• 25:32
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• 25:35
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• 25:38
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• 25:41
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• 25:45
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• 25:49
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• 25:51
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• 25:53
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• 25:55
  Speaker 2: should bring somebody on the show that ask the questions
• 25:57
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• 25:57
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• 25:59
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• 26:03
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• 26:06
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• 26:11
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• 26:13
  Speaker 1: on there and they'll actually give us their thoughts. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you know, we've answered a question before and we've had
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of people jump in and I go, oh,
• 26:20
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• 26:23
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• 26:25
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's you know, combination of mind sometimes come
• 26:28
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• 26:31
  Speaker 1: doing this stuff.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So today's question comes from Laura all Right in Tucson,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and she says, Hi, I have a potential question for
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the show. I'm going to be traveling and originally wanted
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: to get a laptop so I could work well away
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: for two weeks, but now I was thinking I could
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: be able to do it on a tablet. I connect
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: to a PC at work through a VPN. They set
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: up what would be better at tablet or laptop. The
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: one I have now is a seventeen inch screen HP
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: that is super heavy. Your suggestions Laura and Tucson.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Ooh wow, so you're my question.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: My question would be the first one is are you
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: doing the work? Like do you connect to the VPN
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and do your work through the VPN or are you
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: remote desktopping into a computer that you're doing the work on.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's remote desktopping this way, if that would.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Be like that would be see pretty impossible on a tablet, yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: because I've done remote desktopping, and sure, if you use
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the app, it's great, you can full screen and it
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: feels like you're running a regular computer. But I just
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: don't know how natural would unless.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: The program that Laura is using is an app. So
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like if she connects to her desktop and she has
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to open an app and she opens that normally on
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: her desktop, then she would be doing that there. But
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: then you have to think about this. Keep you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to tablets to tablet you know, yeah, you've got the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: on screen keyboard. It's not the same as sitting at
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a desk with a keyboard. Yeah, you could have a
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: bluetooth keyboard a Logitech makes a great keyboard for working
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: with your tablets, whether it be you know, an iPad
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: or a Samsung tablet. But I yeah, I don't know
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: But a seventeen inch HP that's huge.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: That is that's free good, that's a behemoth.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Of a laptop, right, Yeah, So slimming down your laptop
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: maybe to a thirteen or fourteen inch, right, Because Like,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: if I think about the way I work remotely, If
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I'm working remotely, it's like I connect to the VPN
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and then I can just get to all the web
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the web URLs I need to eternally through Chrome, I
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: can do all my work. That way. I can see
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: stuff on our internal network at work, the same way
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I would if I was sitting at my computer at
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: works versus remote desktopping to my computer at work, which
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: just seems like five extra steps to get. Like it's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want to remote connect to remote connect to
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a computer, if that makes sense. Right. So if you
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: can achieve everything you can just by using a web
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: browser and you're doing that kind of work, but if
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: you're controlling another PC, I feel like i'd want just
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: for a visualizer, right, for a little bit more robust hardware.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And also if you're remote, right, the other thing you
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: have to rely on is are you gonna have stable
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: internet everywhere you go?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so you're traveling, great, no problem, right, Okay,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you get to a hotel and their WiFi is two
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: meg up, five meg down or something stupid? Right? Right?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Is that enough to control your remote desktop with the
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: with the quality that you need to see to be
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: able to do your work? Right? Okay, maybe you have Starlink,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe you have Starlink Mobile. You can get five six
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: hundred meg or a little bit less and reliable like fine, great,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: But if you're traveling, it's hard, right, you're so up
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: in the air with Okay, well if you need to work, okay,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: well now I'm hot spotting my phone and then I'm
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: connecting to the VPN through my phone and it's just
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you're on. It's harder to be reliable with with traveling.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: So you got to keep that in mind too, right.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: So unless you're know you're going to have dedicated good
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: internet everywhere, right, you just got to keep that in
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: mind too.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So, and lit'sten to it. If she's carrying around a
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: seventeen inch eh, laspop that is very it's go being heavy.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: The the A sixteen that we looked at from a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: SEUs that weighs about two and a half pounds. I'm
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: not kidding, Sean.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I can't tell, you know. I picked this laptop up
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and I what's in it? I'm like it, it feels
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: like there's nothing in it. I mean that's the new
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of the new idea. There's other laptops
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: on the market that might weigh about three pounds, maybe
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: three and a half pounds. That as far as a laptop,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go with a twelve inch If I'm doing
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: remote work, I want to have at least a fifteen
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: or sixteen inch screen.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: So, right in my experience rights as somebody who's worked
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: as a video professional for the last two decades, I
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: always felt like I needed a seventeen inch screen. Like
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I need all the real estate
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I can get to do all my video editing and
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: my photo editing, et cetera. Right, and sure, maybe back
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: when seventeen inch MacBooks were the rage, and they required
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: an immense amount of power, and you know, they had
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to be that bake, so they could cool. You know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: they used themselves as their own alumin heat think back
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: in the day, sure, great, But as time has progressed
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and the editing software has gotten better and more streamlined
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: for smaller resolutions, higher bit depth and higher pixel debt density.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But larger resolutions or smaller resolutions, I mean, they've gotten better.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't think I I would tell my past self,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you don't need anything more than fourteen inch right right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I work on a MacBook Book Pro, but it's a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: thirteen inch I think maybe it's fourteen inch. I don't know.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: It's what's the smallest MacBook Pro you can get. I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: do have a cinema display at work that I connect
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: too when I sit down. Oh there you go, an
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: older cinema display. So I a thunderbolt to the cinema
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: display and I can have two screens at the same time.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: But it's the convenience of being able to slide it
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: into my backpack and carry it and not feel like
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I'm being burdened by a behemoth. Yeah. Yeah, and especially
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: if you're traveling and okay, you want to get some
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: remote work done. Okay, you're at a coffee shop or
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: you're you know, sitting at the table in an RV,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: which aren't necessarily that big, or you're trying to sit
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: at the hotel desk, which aren't always that big. It's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: the seventeen inches that's huge, Like that's a behemoth. So
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: maybe considered downscaling your your laptop size to a smaller one. Again,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: not out, not ruling out a tablet, just you have
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to you have to look at the workflow of how
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: you're connecting to things, right, what about trying Yeah, what.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: About this idea? I was just thinking about the surface,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Microsoft Surface, which is basically you know, Windows
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: basically on the tablet. You know. I again, I've not
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: used the surface, so I don't.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I have right, So it depends again it depends. Surfaces
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: are prohibit they are prohibitively expensive. Surf Microsoft services are expensive,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: and they're actually almost phasing them out.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: If you if you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Look got to the surface website, like the surface is
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a niche product for a long time. In education,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: it's served it's served a purpose in education. We have
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: several that we use, but they're phasing out, Like the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: olid ones are kind of just not a thing anymore. Right,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It's like people don't want. Desktops are a thing for
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: certain avenues, Like there's a niche market for desktop machines now.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if a service would be. You
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: could get a service, but you might not be able
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to get one. You might able to find what you
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: want for the price for the price point you want, right,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: But again, workflow it figure out if the tablet's gonna work.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Right if you're working just in data entry and you're
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: doing web based you know, HTML five based stuff where
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: you can be in web browsers and do it all
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: for your web browsers, maybe that's going to be fine
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: on a tablet. But I just don't know if you're
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: going to get the experience.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: All right, here's something something else. And you know, I
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: kind of wonder about this before you go and buy
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a laptop or a tablet, do you. Obviously it sounds
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to me like you have an IT person. If you've
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: got a VPN and you've been able to connect you
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: know previously there's somebody that controls like the IT experience
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: at work. Talk to the IT person if you can
• 34:57
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• 35:39
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• 35:42
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• 35:46
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• 36:36
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• 36:44
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• 36:48
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• 36:54
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• 37:00
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• 37:34
  Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about a new product that
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about. Oh yeah, and this is
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a good one, and I like, I want to talk
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: about it because I like to do the video and
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the photography stuff because it's like it's it's part of
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: my world. It's something I've been in for a long
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: time for years. Right. Dji has kind of strangle held
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the market on a few different technology pieces, right, one
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: of those being the stabilized handheld camera, the gimbal right,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the gimbal, the gimbal, the handheld gimbal right mobile, the
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Osmo also the handheld the Osmo mobile, and then the
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Osmo pocket, uh, and then the dj I pocket.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: They basically Dji the first John or was it GoPro
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: or do we do we know?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, they've kind of all blended together over the years.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: GoPro had their own little one that worked with Gilpro
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: like their Drone it didn't do very well. So but
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Dji has kind of been the one, right and they've
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: just owned the pocket gimbal camera market. But instad three
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: sixty has caught up significantly and out of nowhere. Like
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: it was like Dji everything right, and then all of
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: a sudden instant three sixty came can just kind of
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: came in and just exploded because they've been doing a
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: ton with three sixty cameras, right, like the X four.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: They're now doing a direct challenge with the pocket Osmo
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: world in that pocket handheld gimbal mode with the Luna Ultra.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: That's what they're calling this, the lun Ultra. It's a
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Leika co engineered pocket camera. Now, for those who don't know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Laika is a German a German photography company that is
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: known for its superior glass. It's superior lensing and something
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: like that. Right, So you have two powerhouse companies in
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the camera world, Hostile Blood and Leika. Oh yeah, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: they are on They are now competing for the same market,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: right because the DJI pocket osmal stuff is with Hostile
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Blood and I think they did some stuff with Seiss,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: but the Hostile Blod stuff is incredible right, they're known
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: for their medium format cameras stuff like that. But so
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: this looks like it was designed specifically to try and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: steal DJI customers. Right. It's so, what exactly is the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Luna Ultra, who's it for and will it actually move
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the will it be a competitor? Right? So what from.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Everything we've been seeing so far far with this the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Luna Ultra, it looks like it certainly could be.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it really has.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Some great features until you put it into real world testing.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: But into three sixty is kind of you know, they've
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: they've built a great name for them.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: So they've got the they've got the influencer following, right,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: They've got they are the Kleenex of the key of
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: like the influencer world. Right, It's like it's just tissue, right,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: But everybody knows it's Kleenex, right, But it's a brand. Right.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows that if you're shooting something for as an influencer,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you're using Instant three sixty. Right. It's that's just kind
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: of the staple. It's become a you're an influencer, you
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: shoot with an Instant three sixty. It's kind of becoming
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: the the standard for that's what you're seeing, right. It's
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: just because they they they latched onto the three sixty
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: view and they kind of made the workflow work and
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: made it easy to do to shoot on a three
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: sixty camera and made it easy to edit, to break down,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: to control the content, to put it up. GoPro and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Dji struggled to make it a user experience. So I
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: feel like, if it's easy and it's fast, that's going
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: to take a lot of people, right.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing when you think when social
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: media just started erupting, and you know, we started to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: hear the term influencers, you know, it was people with
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: great graphics, you know, great image and then we started
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: getting into the video world and people were basically on
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: their webcam, you know, just looking it right directly to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the camera. And as that's progressed, we've seen some really
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: creative creators that are out there that are doing so
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: much cool stuff with video and whether they're using the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: tools of the trade, whether they're using you know, like Adobe,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: or they're using Da Vinci or the you know, the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: using some of the many other software programs that are
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: out there. There have been some creators who've done. They're
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: doing even more with video now, even surpassing I'm just
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: gonna say it, surpassing what they might see on broadcasts
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: as far as brad Can television, doing it in social format.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: And now they are looking for quality like like a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Houseleblod you know, some of the even Sony. You know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they're looking for the quality to create these videos because
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: a bad video, if it looks bad, will cause a scroll.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: In.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: With so many videos out there, you've got ten seconds
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: sometimes five to grab somebody. And if your video looks
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: good and it's compelling and the quality of the video
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: is good, these these creators that I've seen on here,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I just go, wow, this stuff is great.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So what is the lun Ultra right? Yeah, so
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: it's it's the three sixties first dedicated handheld cable camera. Right,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: so they get their their first not three sixty camera.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: It's got three access stabilized gimbal, the dual like engineered cameras,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: eight K compatible recording, eight K right, AI subject tracking,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: which I've never The AI is just it's a buzzword
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: for this at this point. It says a detachable touchscreen controller.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: So I have to look into that a little bit more,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: but the Verge said that they kind of quoted it
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: as like the hybrid between a DJ Pocket Osmo and
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: a miniature cinema camera, so being able to do some
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: cool stuff. Right, So the dual camera system, it's it's
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a one inch main sensor, one inch main sensor. That's insane. Yeah, right,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be bigger than the Pocket Osmo. Right,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: So if if you're looking for miniature, like the Pocket
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Osmo is still going to be your smallest. The Osmo
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: is a little bit bigger, but the Pocket DJ Pocket
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: is a little bit smaller. And it says it has
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: dedicated telephoto camera with optical zoom, which optical zoom is
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: clearly a benefit, right because you're not gaining you're not
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: adding any digital noise or pixels or whatever. But it
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: says it can do eight k at thirty frames a second. Wow,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: this is crazy. And they'll say it'll do ten bit
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: log which is crazy for an editor to be able
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: to have that level of color quality. And then it
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: has a custom like a color profile, so you're getting
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: a you're getting a tried and true color platform that
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Laika is known for.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: For somebody who doesn't know, like, all right, so you've
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: got this gimbal, you've got it's handheld, and you got
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the camera that's on it if you were walking behind somebody,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you know, or walking to an event. And the problem
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: is before, if you did it on a smartphone, you'd
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: see the camera movie. You know, it's like bouncy bouncy bouncy.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: With this with the gimmel, it provides it's a stable
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you know, stabilization for the shot, so you don't get
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: that feeling. And I walked it somewhere. It's just you're
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: gliding over there. I saw one. I saw a creator
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the other day, and you know, normally you would think
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: they would acquire it through through a through a drone
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: shot where a drone flies through a restaurant, goes through
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: a door, goes through. No, instead, it's somebody basically on
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: roller skates holding it and skating through the different areas
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and holding the gimbal, and it just looked amazing. The
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: footage was great. So this gives you that freedom, that flow,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that that stabilization so you don't have shaky shots. And
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: it's good quality. I mean that's good.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm reading a little bit more about this
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: detachable OLED screen. Yeah, all right, it's a two inch
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: oil any touch screen that can detach and become a
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: wireless remote with live monitoring. How is that?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: What that's insane?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: So that means that somebody like if you had a director,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: you know, so yeah.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Or if you're trying to do or if you're you
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: set it up and you want to control it, so
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: better self solo filming, self recording is easier. Flexible camera placement,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: yea right. The only thing, the only thing that they
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: could knock this out of the park with is they
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: added the ability to control more than one.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, like a like a switcher almost.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So imagine being able to place the camera across
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the room and framing it from my hand, right, framing
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: up for interviews, framing up for But that's something dj
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't offer, right, That's not something you can do with
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the DJI right now. So I feel like they don't
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: offer an equivalent.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: How about pricing on it? We've seen it. It's gonna
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: be under eight hundred bucks. Is that kind of incline
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: that's for a stabilized.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Eight K camera? Yeah, that's right about where it's at.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Seven seventy so it's it's positioned as a premium creator
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: tool right now, right, but it's not ideal, right, So
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: obviously there's cons right, it's not ideal for if you
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: need if you're if you're a rugged if you're doing
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: anything rugged outdoorsy weather related, or if if you need
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: waterproof not it. Yeah, and it's not budget friendly. So
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: at seven hundred and seventy bucks, right zoo.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder too, you know, we've seen DJI,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: We've seen you know, some of the other companies have
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: been affected by you know, the inability to be able
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to import into the country. This does not fall under that,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: but this one from Insto three sixty, So that will
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: be available here in the United States. So for anybody
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: who listening here, they should be able to buy that, correct,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: because I'm not going to have those those limitations, at
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: least that's what I was seeing that you know, it
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: would be available, So I'm hoping that will be the case.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: But to three sixty is you know, if you're ever
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: driving down the road and you're wondering, why is that
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: stick sticking up out of that RV on the end
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: of that stick as a camera and it's capturing three
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degrees.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Right, which which I was talking about a little bit earlier,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: was that instant three sixty has made it so you
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: can just stick an eight stick a three sixty camera
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: up right, and then you get into their editing platform
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: and you could pick and choose what you're seeing out
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: of that three sixty and use it right. You've anybody
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: that's watched YouTube has seen it where they show an
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: angle and then all a sudden you can see a
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: different angle, and then they pan and swish and move.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It's it's an interesting concept that I've worked with. I've
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: worked within the three sixty world. I've done time lapses
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: with it and stuff, and it's it wasn't easy to
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: break into that, but if you did it well, you
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: have to edit the content down right, there's no benefit
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: to try and get somebody to try and watch Live
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: three or sixty get content right. I tried it. It's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: impossible for somebody on their phone, Like everybody's doing it
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: on their phones, right, So imagine trying to curate Live
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: three sixty content and all of a sudden you have
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: people try to watch it, spending their phone around and
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: doing all this weird stuff. So it's not curated for
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: live content. So I'm curious to see where they go
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: with that, and they're clearly they're clearly aiming for a
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: piece of the market that DGIS has had a firm
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: grasp on since they announced the Osmo back in twenty fourteen,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, even maybe even a little bittterer than that. Right, So,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the Osmo has been a fantastic platform. And you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: the the thing that I so talk about the Osthmo,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: the thing that they didn't mention with the Instant three
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: sixty is any capability of being able to do live
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: streaming from it. So can you from there do an
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: RTMP stream or connect to Facebook or connect to from
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: the pocket. I'm not sure, So I'll have to look
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: into that to see if there's Because some of the
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: older Osmo's versions through the app and through the phone,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: if you connected it to your phone, you could live
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: stream a stream from two in RTNP feed or so
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just currying out mental with that up because that's
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: not something it's mentioned in any of the articles I
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: was reading about it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, if you want to get more info, you
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: jump on the web, go to insta I n s
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: t A three sixty dot com. You'll find out about
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the app as well as the different programs. I want
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: to say too, something that I saw this week. I
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: have a you know, Dji Mini drone. I had no
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: idea that on the smartphone with the Dji app, you
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: can actually fly practice drone flights. I don't know if
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: you've known this, because I know you don't. You have
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: one too. You have a Dji, don't you? I do, yeah,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: And I was flying through rings to practice flying with
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: my smartphone. Although I have the controllers with my drone,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: but it still was kind of cool to be able
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to do and it was fun. It was like a
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: game I was playing flying the drone. So that's something
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I want to look into. All right, we'll be back
• 51:09
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• 51:12
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• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the show. All right, so we were gonna we were
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: gonna answer Rick's question here, and I will tell you
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Rix's question is about AI and AI generating photos and
• 51:37
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• 51:40
  Speaker 1: week on the show because there's something we need to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: mention with Father's Day just around the corner. If you
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: were thinking about getting Dad a Steam gift card, here's
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: something think about. Sean and I were talking about this
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: earlier on the show. So if you're explain Sean what
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Steam is for.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: It's a gaming platform, right, It's a made by a
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: company called Valve, and it's you can buy games. It's
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: it's a gaming platform, right, you buy it buy games.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Developers can sell their games on Steam, but you can
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: get gift cards for them, and the Steam gift cards
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: specifically have been the target for in person scams ya,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: meaning you get called by somebody with a very realistic
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: American accent and says, oh, my my sister is in
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: the hospital and I need money. But the only way
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I can get it is if you if I send
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you money and you buy me a gift card. And
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: so there's the whole scam about going, you know, go
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: buy gift cards for Apple or go buy gift cards
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: for Amazon or Steam, et cetera. And so Valve came
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: out and said, we've been so inundated with scams on
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: our physical gift cards. We're gonna be done. We're just
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: not gonna sell anymore. And I'm I'm sure it's gonna
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: be a huge cost saving. So it's weird, right, I
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: don't think gift cards cost any money, right, but to
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: produce them, to sell them, to ship them to logistics,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: et cetera. Like, there's probably a whole department of people
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that work on just curating physical gift cards. So it's
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: probably gonna save them a ton of money. But it
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: could also save you from being scammed by physical gift cards.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: So during the holidays, I was in the store and
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the woman in front of me was buying Steam gift cards,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and I remember asking her, saying, oh, for your kids,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: She goes, No, my husband, he loves he loves playing games,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: so this will this will make him happy. So again,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. With Father's Day coming around, you could
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: still get them, all right, You could still buy them
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: the physical gift cards. If you go into a retailer,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: make sure you know all the precautions are in fact,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: whenever you buy a gift card of any any type.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: But Valve is saying that if they're already, if they're
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: still in stores, they could still sell them, but that's it.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: They're not producing any more. You could still redeem the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: existing physical gift cards that you've bought, but by the
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: end of this year they will be gone. They're ceasing
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: production on them, so you won't be able to buy them,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: which is kind of a shame. If you were hoping
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: to get some for Father's Day, you've got a birthday
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: coming up. What would you like for your birthday?
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a loaded question. Yeah. So this past
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: week the Nintendo Direct this past Monday that came out.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm definitely getting a switch To this summer.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: So star Fox they did a Star Fox for the
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Switch To. They announced the Operator of Time remake.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, Yeah.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I told everybody when it got leaked. I was like,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: if they announced an operative Time remake, there is nothing
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: on this planet, in this world, in this universe that
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: will stop me from buying a switch To.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, Well, listen, have a
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: great birthday. I know you can be out next week. Uh,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some camping, do some fun stuff.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be forty the next time we recorded
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: the show, so.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Big for so next time you join us, you'll be forty.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: You beating that forty group.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be sliding down the hill. I'm gonna be
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: on the over the air side, me over the hill.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: We'll have a great birthday, and thank you for tuning
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: to Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have a great week.