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I Don't Think That's John Anymore... | The Forest | Part 4 · Replay Reviews

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We finished the game. Lots of questions. Lots
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of questions. Maybe some answers. We'll talk
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about it. Should we do the out -of -context summary?
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Go for it. In this episode, we go through corporate
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orientation. Rinse that sink out, please. And
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poor John. One of the puppies whined and it sounded
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like a loon. Down, down. Guess who it is. Gus.
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For our listeners, Gus is Toast's brother. Down.
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Biologically. We're not just saying that. Yeah.
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My parents adopted him. Thank you for coming
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back for more replay reviews. My name is Leah.
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And my name is Kathy. We are two friends who
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are here to replay, review, and analyze your
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seen the games before, it helps me view them
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through her fresh eyes, almost like I'm discovering
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them again for the first time. We hope it will
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be a similar experience for you. Yeah, okay,
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we left off with the red hallway. So we're walking
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through it this time. In a room, we find a printed
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email containing, I think, a picture of Megan.
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It's an exchange between Dr. Matthew Cross and
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his wife, Jessica. Okay, so Jessica says, keep
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away from us, don't contact me again. And Matt
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says, if you file for a divorce, you will regret
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it. What involvement does Matt have with Sahara
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Industries? And at what point? Because I was
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kind of under the impression, like, he started
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it to save Megan. But I'm starting to not. I
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think it's older than that. So further on in
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some kind of ward, we find Ethical Scientist
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Magazine. Isn't that ironic? Isn't it? It has
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a picture of what we've been calling the artifact,
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right? On the cover. And it says, ancient artifacts.
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Can this device bring back the dead? If that
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is the case, though. Megan is dying, not dead.
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So is this really going to be helpful? Well,
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I'm looking at the theories, which makes it sound
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like this is sort of like a joke magazine. And
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so they're saying that maybe someone from Sahara
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went rogue and took this information public.
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But because it's so insane, no one believed them.
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And so it was published in this sarcastic magazine.
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I do have a question. So in the hallway, we see
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those... red paint containers which makes sense
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and our main character even gets his hands wet
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with the paint so are the monsters just humans
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pretending to be monsters and soaking themselves
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in red paint or is it that the monsters somehow
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got themselves um covered in the red paint i
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have no idea It seems kind of intentional. Like,
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I'm just confused. Why do we paint ourselves
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red? There must be a reason for that, right?
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We don't just decide, hey, I'm going to put this
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paint on my body and not have a reason for it.
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And why paint the walls red? Yeah, is there some
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correlation? Does the color red have some significance
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to whatever's going on here? Farther on, we see,
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like, observation rooms. They're full of, like,
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icky babies and dead monsters. One looks like
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a slug, and it's laying over a bed labeled John,
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so... Sorry, John. And then, continuing on, I
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find Megan's crayons. After the flesh room, oh
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my gosh. Is the flesh room the one where it's
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like a room where it's just a pool of human body
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parts? It's just a big, the whole room is flesh
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now. Yeah. It's disgusting. No air in that room.
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Just body. Then we soon will stumble across a
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PowerPoint presentation that's still playing.
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orientation slideshow number two so we see longevity
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medicine through jarus project by dr matthew
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cross and then we learn that this leggy octolady
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her name is virginia or subject 375b and notes
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for her are developed multiple sex organs and
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limbs and facial distortions we also see that
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the big creepy guy is armzy which we kind of
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already learned that subject 82 c6 Also has multiple
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limbs, face distortions, like Virginia, but highly
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aggressive. And then on the earnings slide, there's
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one bullet point that talks about parents are
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willing to spend money on. What exactly are they
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spending money on? Trying to revive their kids
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at the sacrifice of other young children? I guess
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just extending their life. This seems to be Dr.
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Cross's project, right? So maybe it's something
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he took on when Megan, got sick because it seems
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like she's sick she's got the ivy you know she's
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in a wheelchair so i'm thinking he's probably
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trying to tout this to other parents as like
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oh we can beat their chronic illness blah blah
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but he's not disclosing they might turn into
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a octolady or a swingy armsy guy i have one more
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note on that slide do you have any more notes
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no okay also on the slide it says purchase of
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peninsula and talks about like i guess that's
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what they did with some of their earnings so
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that must be where we are right and that explains
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a lot that this is a privately owned plot of
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land i do have a question i'm wondering if peninsula
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is a second plot of land or the land we're currently
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on because i thought we were on an island is
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there another plot of land like the peninsula
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that we're trying to purchase and this is hinting
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at a second game that first we have the forest
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on this island now we're going to have maybe
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the desert on the peninsula Yeah, could be. Either
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way, I think it explains that they own this.
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Either it's the island or it's a peninsula. And
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then maybe they're doing the same thing on the
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peninsula if this is an island. So yeah, I think
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that makes sense. But I'm confused. How do you
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do this elsewhere? Because I don't know, but
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it seems to me like some of the stuff that they
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need is like ingrained in the island. You know,
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like it seems like it's built into the island,
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but... I don't know, maybe it's more man -made
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than we thought. I then find a drawing of the
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tower slash artifact, and not long after that,
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a termination email. So this email is addressed
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to Matt, and it says, your employment with Sahara
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Therapeutics is terminated for unethical and
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inappropriate use of company equipment. Please
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submit your key card to security when you leave
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the building. Please let us know if we can assist
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something something during your transition. Warmest
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regards, Nancy Helen, head of HR. I can't be
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mad at Sahara for this. Yeah. It would have been
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more helpful if they had key controls in place
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to prevent him from using it for personal reasons.
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Scene two. You ready for that? Mm -hmm. I hear
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an odd whooshing, almost breathing sound coming
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from the room ahead. I approach and inside is
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the artifact. The tower we've been calling it.
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Which is a lot smaller than I imagined it being.
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Proves my theory wrong because I thought that
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the alien doors were that and it's not. But it's
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still the same. It looks like the same construction
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sort of. And it's also connected to the bedrock
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seemingly. So like was it a natural formation
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that they found and they built this whole facility
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around it? It kind of looks that way. That was
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my first thought. But at the same time, how did
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they stumble across it? And the video also made
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it seem like they were able to move this artifact
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around. Does it just need to be connected to
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the earth to work, maybe? It also has tubes going
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from it to like a bed, gurney kind of thing,
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where we find another Megan drawing. And then
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we learn of a second artifact and another tape.
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So it's a tape labeled Second Artifact Test.
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So I'll go ahead and share this with you now.
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Okay. This scene makes sense now that we know
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what that area is. Right. It kind of looks like
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a giant bug butt, does it not? No. A little bit?
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No. Yeah, it does. I have no clue what you're
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talking about. Like the underside of a beetle?
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Yeah. Glowing? It does not look like the other
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artifact, which I find interesting. I also have
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a lot of questions about how this artifact works,
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which we'll probably save for the end. We also
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find an email. It says, it's to Sasha from Matthew.
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We believe the device may be able to bring down
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a plane. And then to Matthew, please send me
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an update on this observation of yours. God bless,
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Sasha. I don't think God is involved in this
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at all, Sasha. Take it back. I wander around
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for a while, confused what I'm supposed to do.
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There's a button, but I can't press it. Eventually,
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I figure out Timmy's in the artifact, which looks
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painful. He's got, like, stalagmites going into
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his head and his body. But I yank him out, and
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we put him on the bed. Gurney thing. That's really
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sad to find your child like that. That made my
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heart really sad. And typically, I don't have
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this reaction around, like, kids and games. But,
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like... For some reason in this game, in this
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scene, it really makes you really sad to see
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that this is how you find your son. When he was
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just left there all alone, you know, like that's
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just sad. Nothing about, like it's just, there's
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a lot of layers to the sadness of this. And the
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music changed? Yeah, the music changes. I think
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it changes because he gets the idea of like to
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put these tube things on Timmy to try to save
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him. And then it's like, oh, we need a new sacrifice
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to save Timmy. Isn't it more ethical to just
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leave Timmy dead? I mean, it sounds really cruel.
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And I get this entire game is all about saving
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your child. But what are you going to do when
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Timmy becomes a monster and attacks you? Like,
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do you kill it or do you let it kill you? I don't
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think he knows about that yet or not fully. I
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don't think he has a full grasp of what's happening
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yet. I'll come back to this question, though,
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at the end of the scene. Okay. based on the decision
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I make at the end. But I realized I forgot. I
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skipped a note. So there's a red -painted guy,
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I think, dead. And behind on the whiteboard,
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it says, Daddy's dead, with a frowny face. So
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this must be Matthew Cross, right? And Megan
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wrote that? I mean, I don't really know what
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the significance is, but I feel like it's significant
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enough to mention it, like he's dead. So we're
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off to find a new sacrifice. We find another
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drawing that says Daddy. He looks angry. And
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then we follow bloody footprints to find Megan.
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But she does not look normal. She is not normal.
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Her lower half of her face is covered in black
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goo. What is that? I don't know. The next note
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is what the f***. This is like pure horror stuff
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where She spazzes out, and then something comes
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out of her mouth and just eats her body. It turns
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her body inside out. Yeah, she's not a creature
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we've seen yet. Somewhat spider -armsy hybrid
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thing. She's dangling from it in the middle.
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And this fight pissed me off, because I don't
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know how a target can be so big and so small
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at the same time. These legs are so spindly,
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so you have to aim accordingly. But it's still
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so big. But I do eventually take it, take her
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down. The music was very intense. Which, up until
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here, we don't get much music. Should I leave
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that in? Sure. I think I killed Megan. I think
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she's dead. How do we feel about that? The question
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is, isn't she already dead when the monster just
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came out of her? I don't know. Is there a cure?
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I don't know. But screw her. Let's sacrifice
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her. Except actually we can't because we need
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a live sample. So we killed her for no reason.
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Well, it was going to kill you anyways. Yeah.
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So there's that. But then going back to the ethical
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question, though, say that even if Megan's body
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could have been... used to help revive your son
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is it worth bringing him back to life knowing
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that he's already been experimented on eric our
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main character has seen what can happen to these
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bodies that have been tested on isn't there any
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consideration of just leaving leaving things
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be the way it is because what's going to happen
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if you bring your son back and he's in more pain
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or he becomes a monster and kills more people
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Yeah, I think he just can't say for sure because
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he doesn't know exactly what's happened to Timmy
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versus what they've done to Megan. So I think
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he's just kind of like, if there's any chance,
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they gotta take it. We do get a keycard off of
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her, though, which we need to exit the room.
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And then we find an elevator. And now we're on
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top of the mountain in a room with the second
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artifact spiraling in the ceiling. And this...
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Ow. side area is the same outside area that we
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saw in one of our previous videos where megan
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was in an airplane and pointing at this weird
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castle looking thing we see the desk from the
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video with a console that shows a plane it says
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three matches identified thomas four kevin nine
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sally seven debate question mark there's also
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an emergency shutdown button but i only give
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it a second slot before deciding It's not worth
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the risk. Wait, you can press that button? Yeah.
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Oh, can we, for a summary, can we watch what
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happens if you choose that path? Sure. I barely
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considered it at all in my playthrough. I went
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through all of this to save Timmy. I'm not sweating
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now. Screw these other kids, man. So, it's like,
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are you sure? I'm like, yeah, I'm sure. I would
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have hit that button so much faster than the
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game let me. But we see the artifact activate
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and it sends out a ring of energy and it knocks
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the plane down. So now we know how that happens.
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I know. Well, yes, but I do have a lot of questions
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with that. How? How does one this artifact locate
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whichever kids are on the flights? Like, how
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is it able to identify all this information?
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And how does it know that the match is to Timmy
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and not to any other ones? I'm assuming it has
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to do with us plugging things into Timmy. But
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still. How does it know where these kids are
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located and their matches and the flight they're
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on? And two, how do they target the flight to
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specifically letting that crash? And three, how
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is no one questioning things like this when consistent
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planes with children like this keep dying? Yeah,
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that's kind of my big question is why is nobody
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asking questions? And I think if it's a privately
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owned island, that gives us a little more understanding
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of like, oh, people can't just waltz in here.
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But like they could get a warrant, you know?
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Well, it's that, but if you're consistently seeing
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flights disappear relatively close location to
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the peninsula or to the island, don't you have
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questions? Like we know about the Bermuda Triangle
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for a reason. So how is this not? And guess what?
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People explore it all the time because they're
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curious about it. That would be happening here
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too. Final scene. Fade to black. Now it's one
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year later. We're going on a talk show. Why?
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I guess Timmy's alive. Apparently. And we do
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learn confirmation that we are Eric LeBlanc,
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a TV star and author. Is the host on like eight
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shots of espresso? Okay, the host pisses me off.
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Let us respond before you ask another question,
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buddy. And this host is being way too eager about
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trying to get him to go through some PTSD. Why
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would you do that? Why is this something that
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people want to see him showing how he probably
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killed people in Swing at Axe? Are people really
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that ignorant and so... Yeah. I don't even know
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how to describe it. But to your point, though,
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why did Eric even agree to be on the show at
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all? And why would you drag your son into doing
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this? exactly okay so yeah the axe demonstration
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we like pause and look at the axe like it's bringing
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back memories or something and then timmy starts
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tweaking but he seems to snap out of it and then
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it fades to black again question is is the spazzing
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thing consistent for every kid or thing becoming
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a monster and how do you start and stop because
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when I cannot remember her name. Mary? It's not
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Mary. I don't know. Megan. Goodness gracious.
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When Megan turned... She's Mary now. When Megan
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turned into a monster, it came out of her mouth.
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And is that just unique to the monster that she
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is? Or is this just a universal experience that
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everyone's going to go through and then become
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a different monster? Because we've seen this
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shaking three times with... The side effects
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video with Megan and now with Timmy. I mean,
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it looks like you can suppress it, but does it
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like continue to grow inside of you? Like have
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things changed on a cellular level? So if he
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were to become a monster, do you think Eric would
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have to kill his son on live television? Oh,
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I hope so. See, it's his fault. You better handle
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it, right? I have no filter tonight. I'm sorry.
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I like it. So another flash forward. We're older
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Timmy. He's getting ready. Another shower scene.
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At least we don't see any butt stuff. Upper butt.
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Almost butt. ABM. So he brushes his teeth for
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about three seconds. Doesn't rinse the tooth
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fresh and doesn't rinse his spit out of the sink.
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Also, he comes out of the shower fully dressed.
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Yeah, he, like, puts a robe on, but you can see
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when he reaches for the robe that there's a sleeve
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on his arm, so I don't know if that was a mistake.
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Why the shower? Why couldn't it be just him waking
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up? Or just start with the teeth brushing moment.
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But he follows up his teeth brushing with some
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whiskey. Buddy might have a problem. Yeah, he
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does. So Timmy comes out of the bathroom and
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goes in his bedroom where one side of the wall
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has a bunch of information about what I'm assuming
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is the forest. And he's looking at this. And
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then the sky starts changing. I am confused.
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Number one, yes, he seems obsessed with his experience
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in the forest, which I guess he would be. Number
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two, it almost feels like the full moon activated
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him somehow. That's weird because we've gotten
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no indication of that before. Which I'm wondering,
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is it the artifact that every time someone hits
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activate, maybe the energy in the sky gets weird
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and then the plane crashes? That could be. And
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it would understand why he's still obsessed with
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it because he'd want to like figure out how to
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quit that from happening. If every time they
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hit it, he gets these issues. Yeah. He's almost
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transforming as we see happening here. As we
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see eggs in his hands moving around under his
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skin. Yeah, what is that? What is that? Come
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on. Disturbing. Anyway, we have some questions,
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some theories, especially the red paint issue,
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but also like how does the artifact work? I think
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we'll get into all of that and maybe do some
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research on it for the summary. I'm really excited
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for the Kentucky Scorcher category. No. we can't
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blame you for this though there is no no normal
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options these are not your fault okay well gus
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is looking at me and whining at the door so i
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think you might have to pee okay sounds good
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so we should probably hop off but thank you for
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listening and we'll see you in the summary next
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