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WHY NO ARRESTS After Girls' Lux Get Away Turns Deadly · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: She's beautiful, she's smart, she is finishing up her business
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Speaker 1: degree at school. She has a loving, loving family. So
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Speaker 1: how does this beautiful girl, she's twenty five, Chinquola end
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Speaker 1: up dead at a luxury resort in Mexico. Okay, try
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Speaker 1: to put the words in Mexico out of your head,
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Speaker 1: because the crime that is happening right now, it's not
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Speaker 1: her murder in Mexico. It's happening right here, right here,
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Speaker 1: I believe in North Carolina where the purps are hiding out.
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Speaker 1: That's what's wrong today. We here in the US are
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Speaker 1: doing nothing to get justice and the murder of this
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Speaker 1: twenty five year old beauty. And when I say beauty,
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Speaker 1: I mean beauty on the inside and the out. You
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Speaker 1: know how hard that is to find somebody who's really
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Speaker 1: gorgeous on the outside and on the inside they're just
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Speaker 1: as gorgeous. Okay, Why is the mother should quell us mother?
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Speaker 1: Why does she have to send her other daughter to
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Speaker 1: be with us today because she is so upset she
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Speaker 1: can barely speak. Why are we dropping the ball? Why
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Speaker 1: don't we just go up to Lady Justice and rip
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Speaker 1: away her shield and take her sword and put it
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Speaker 1: in the Dixie dumpster. We are not seeking justice for
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Speaker 1: this girl, and it will be a day that hell
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Speaker 1: freezes over that I stop seeking justice for Chinquela Robinson.
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Speaker 1: I Mancy Grace, this describe stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation in series XM one eleven.
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Speaker 1: You know how many times I have said to a jury,
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Speaker 1: let me go to you, Kathleen Murphy with me high
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Speaker 1: profile lawyer and joining me out of North Carolina at
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Speaker 1: NC Domestic Law dot com. How many times have I
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Speaker 1: said to a jury, Kathleen, I'm bringing you all his evidence.
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Speaker 1: What do you want a video? Well, in this case,
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Speaker 1: we have a video, because not only did her girlfriends
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Speaker 1: that she went away to this LUTs vacation just down
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Speaker 1: at hop and skip hop skipping and jump down the
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Speaker 1: road from where Jennifer Aniston hangs out in Cobbo all
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Speaker 1: the time writing down from that. I'm going to trial
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Speaker 1: today and I have a video. This girl is being
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Speaker 1: murdered in her luxury sweet bedroom, being beaten dead by
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Speaker 1: one of her friend girls and another person is videoing it.
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Speaker 1: She is dead and there's a video. Kathleen. I cried
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Speaker 1: when I saw that video. I posted on my personal
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Speaker 1: Facebook page. But Nancy, my question is, did these folks
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Speaker 1: plan this crime that occurred in Mexico in the United States?
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Speaker 1: And if so, why are they not arrested right now
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Speaker 1: for planning that crime even though it occurred in the
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Speaker 1: United States? Okays, I often say, Kathleen Murphy, I don't
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Speaker 1: know if they taught you this in law school. I
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Speaker 1: learned it in the courtroom. Screw them and the horse
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Speaker 1: they rode in on, all right, I don't care if
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Speaker 1: they planned it here, planned it in the hall, planned
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Speaker 1: in the doorway as they walked in her bedroom. She
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Speaker 1: is dead because of a break to her spine, and
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Speaker 1: you see in the video them waking. She doesn't have
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Speaker 1: on any clothes. She sleeps without any clothes on. She's
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Speaker 1: getting out of bed and they start beating her and
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Speaker 1: hitting her in the head and to you, doctor Tim Gallagher,
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Speaker 1: Medical examiners stated at Georgia at pathcaremd dot com. Doctor Gallagher,
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Speaker 1: a medical examiner, has told me, in fact, I think
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Speaker 1: it was you that those blows to the head you
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Speaker 1: see on the video. They think it's funny their video
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Speaker 1: in killing the girl that in one of those videos,
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Speaker 1: part of it you see her head go down to
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Speaker 1: the right was such force. She never gets up off
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Speaker 1: the off sitting on the carpet again, she dies right there.
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Speaker 1: Did you see the beating in the video, doctor Gallagher?
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Speaker 1: I did you know? And at that point it looked
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Speaker 1: like her spine was broken or her nickel was broken,
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Speaker 1: you know, so it appeared as though the cervical vertebral
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Speaker 1: column was dislocated from the skull itself, you know, so
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Speaker 1: in that you know, we call that an internal decapitation.
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Speaker 1: But it was a violent blow and it was a
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Speaker 1: violent outcome, and it was just absolutely said and no
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Speaker 1: reason for it that brought about her instantaneous to mind. Okay,
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Speaker 1: right there, there's another cover up because according to play
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Speaker 1: she got three hours later. That did not happen if
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Speaker 1: you look at the actual death cerctificate. But shall have
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Speaker 1: right here in front of me, she died after just
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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Max. I don't know why the cops are
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Speaker 1: saying three hours later, but you know, I need to
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Speaker 1: catch a lot of people up. I want to tell
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Speaker 1: you with me a very special guest today. Well, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. This is Chanquela's sister. What
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Speaker 1: ish your sister's nickname? I know you did not call
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Speaker 1: shan Quola all the time, I called a Gotti. So
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Speaker 1: what my nickname to her was Gotti, godg et Gotti.
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Speaker 1: I kind of hate that you're hearing everything we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: like cause of death and the internal decapitation, which means
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Speaker 1: when your head is severed the rest of your spine,
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Speaker 1: but the skin is still in place, so inside in
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Speaker 1: your spine you've been decapitated, but your head is still
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Speaker 1: sitting on your body. Everybody, I want you to hear
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Speaker 1: our friends at ABC. Listen that Friday evening, she's seeing it,
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Speaker 1: very excited about the trip, you know. And she says
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Speaker 1: she was eating getting ready to eat some tacos. They
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Speaker 1: had a chief there and I said, okay, love you,
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Speaker 1: I will talk to you tomorrow and enjoy yourself. And
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Speaker 1: I never spoke with my child again. Not even twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours after her daughter landed in Paradise. Salamandra says
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Speaker 1: she got a warrying call from one of the friends
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Speaker 1: who told her chan Quilla wasn't feeling well. And I said, well,
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with it? And he said alcohol poison. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know what alcohol poison was, you know, but he said,
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Speaker 1: the doctor is on the way and I say, well,
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Speaker 1: how you know alcoholic poison if the doctor having to
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Speaker 1: rag yet you're hearing right there, right now, considered to
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Speaker 1: be a friend. This is Sanquola's mom speaking to us,
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Speaker 1: that salamander Robinson talking. You know, doctor Tim Gallagher with me,
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Speaker 1: high profile medical examiner out of Florida. You can find
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Speaker 1: him at pathcaremad dot com. And aside all of his
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Speaker 1: education catch this, he created the International Forensic Medicine Death
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Speaker 1: Investigation Conference. He lives and breathes cause of death. So
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Speaker 1: I guess you can see the vast dichotomy between what
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Speaker 1: the medical examiner says she died fifteen minutes after essentially
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Speaker 1: as you describe an internal decapitation, and all the friends
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Speaker 1: telling the mom on the phone it was alcohol poisoning,
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Speaker 1: as if it was Schanquola's fault that she is dead,
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Speaker 1: that shows she drank too much. She's dead. Did they
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Speaker 1: really think we were going to believe that, you know? Well, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess in desperation they would try any
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Speaker 1: excuses better than none, you know, But I don't really
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Speaker 1: understand how they thought they would get away with it,
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Speaker 1: and without an autopsy being performed. This is definitely magical
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Speaker 1: thinking on their part, and she exhibited no signs of
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Speaker 1: alcohol intoxication during the video, none at all. Right, that's
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Speaker 1: a really good point, doctor Tim Gallagher. Hey, guys, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if Fox say she could play the video
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Speaker 1: while we're talking, but there were several times in the
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Speaker 1: video I had to just stop watching it because the
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Speaker 1: video is so violent. So I want to find out
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Speaker 1: to you, Quilla Long, this is Quella's sister. Who are
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Speaker 1: these women in the video where there's a guy there too, right,
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Speaker 1: supposedly her best friend, her friend boy, I mean a guy.
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Speaker 1: It's not a boyfriend, and it's her friend that we
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Speaker 1: don't know the females, we just know him personally. The
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Speaker 1: other set of people are actually people who she went
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Speaker 1: to college with. Okay, guys went to college with. All right,
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Speaker 1: Joe Bruno, it's about to join me from w S OCTV,
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Speaker 1: and he is joining me, I hope with some kind
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Speaker 1: of an update on why these friends have not landed
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Speaker 1: their rear ends behind bars. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friends at ABC. Salamandra again says she confronted one of
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Speaker 1: the friends who lived nearby day say Shanquila didn't die
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Speaker 1: from the alcohol poort. Next day, she had been beating
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Speaker 1: her nick. He broke out in a sweat and he
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Speaker 1: came out of his show. He was sweat so bad.
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Speaker 1: He's like it was eating him up. But soon another
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Speaker 1: punch in the gut. Graphic cell phone footage leaked online,
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Speaker 1: appearing to show Shan Quila naked physically assaulted by another
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Speaker 1: woman while others appeared to watch on even encourage it.
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Speaker 1: Good look, Can you at least wait back? Oh see,
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Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to stop that situation, either one
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Speaker 1: of them didn't do nothing about it. Who will get
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Speaker 1: him the right to take a life? You're hearing the
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Speaker 1: mom and dad speaking to our friends at ABC Time
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace, Joe Bruno joining me right now.
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Speaker 1: Reporter w S. OCTV Joe, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Who are these women they're on video? It would be
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Speaker 1: a simple matter of seeing who registered at the hotel.
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Speaker 1: I mean, IRV Bran joining me. Guys former US Marshall
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Speaker 1: Service International Investigation also adj. Also author of Solo Shot,
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Speaker 1: Curse of the Bluestone hits Amazon January, author of Flying Solo,
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Speaker 1: Top of the World, or When You check into a
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Speaker 1: hotel in another country, including Mexico. You have to show
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Speaker 1: your passport and all your ID. Then'll let you just
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Speaker 1: walk in and run to your room and raid the
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Speaker 1: mini bar. So this has got to be on record, right,
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Speaker 1: That's correct, Nancy from Competent. The Mexican authorities have those
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Speaker 1: people's passport information and also identified them and know their
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Speaker 1: location in the United States. It's now a matter of
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Speaker 1: going through the extradition process to bring them back to Mexico.
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Speaker 1: How the heck did they leave the country to start with?
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Speaker 1: Or Brandt the medical and Sammler says she did not
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Speaker 1: die of alcohol poisoning. She died basically internal decapitation. Her
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Speaker 1: head was disconnected from her body, and then they hop
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Speaker 1: on a plane to take off. Yes, it's actually that simple.
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Speaker 1: They obviously left while the investigation was ongoing. But now
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Speaker 1: that it has been ruled a homicide and not an
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Speaker 1: accidental death or death by alcohol poisoning, they can start
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Speaker 1: the process to bring those people back to the country
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Speaker 1: of Mexico. I don't know why they let them leave
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Speaker 1: to start with. That said, now we've got to get
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Speaker 1: them back. Joe Bruno joining me WSOCTV. Joe, what's happening
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Speaker 1: and why Nancy. These friends who were on the trip
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Speaker 1: for Schenkuela has since deactivated their social media accounts. Many
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Speaker 1: have changed their phone numbers, and I have been to
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Speaker 1: the homes of five of the six of them. Address
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Speaker 1: is associated with these people on the trip, and they
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Speaker 1: are no longer there. You may they no longer live there,
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Speaker 1: or they're hiding out. They are either not answering or
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Speaker 1: neighbors have not seen them in week. Okay, you know what,
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Speaker 1: Dr Bethany Marshall Psychoanala's joining me out of la at
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Speaker 1: Dodor Bethany Marshall dot com. Dodor Bethany. There's nothing that
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Speaker 1: screams I did it more than deactivating all your social
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Speaker 1: and changing your sale number and just disappearing. Yansey, Can
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Speaker 1: you imagine going on a trip out of the country
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Speaker 1: with a friend, that friend is sick or dies and
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Speaker 1: you flee. I mean, I mean that speaks volumes, even
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Speaker 1: if there was no video. You have so called friends
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Speaker 1: who leaves somebody in an ambulance. Let me just picture
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Speaker 1: that for a second. I mean, that is so profound.
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Speaker 1: Then they go back to their mommy's homes and then
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Speaker 1: they deactivate everything. No wonder the one friend was sweating
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Speaker 1: profusely when he came to Chenquila's family to confess what
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Speaker 1: had happened. He wasn't sweating because he was so anxious
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Speaker 1: about what happened to her. He knows he's going to
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Speaker 1: spend the rest of his life in jail. Nancy. And
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Speaker 1: you know, again, even if there was no video, you
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Speaker 1: know these friends were plotting this. This does not happen
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Speaker 1: like in a blink of an eye and the spur
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Speaker 1: of the moment. These friends were probably deriding Shanquila, seeing
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Speaker 1: horrible things about her, taking unflattering photographs. Maybe not consciously
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Speaker 1: planning to kill her, but at some sort of pre
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Speaker 1: conscious level, the attack was being planned. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's what's so horrible about this is she was sort
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Speaker 1: of like the lamb to the slaughter. She had no idea.
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Speaker 1: She called her mom and says she was about to eataco.
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Speaker 1: She was having the happiest moments with new friends. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you ever hung out with new friends, it's too
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Speaker 1: exciting to be with them and to get to know
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Speaker 1: new people. And these new people were plotting against her
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Speaker 1: all the while. What do we know about a restaurants
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Speaker 1: coming out of Mexico? Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: forty three. This is Megan Bragg WC Inc. This is
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Speaker 1: the article that has been circulating on social media. It
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Speaker 1: claims that there has been an arrest in the Schenquila
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Speaker 1: Robinson case. But we wanted to walk you through the
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Speaker 1: article because there are some red flags here. When someone
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Speaker 1: reports and shares claims that are not verified, this is
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Speaker 1: how misinformation spreads. First, the headline suggested to Han Jackson
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Speaker 1: was arrested in the United States. As of now, Mexican
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Speaker 1: authorities have not publicly even named a suspect. They have
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Speaker 1: issued arrest warrants, but haven't said who the warrants are for. Okay,
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Speaker 1: straight back to Joe Bruno joining us from w SoC.
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Speaker 1: I heard the rumors and mysel phone blew up that
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Speaker 1: there had been an arrest in Schenquila Robinson's homicide. Then
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Speaker 1: quickly I learned that wasn't true. What do we know
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Speaker 1: about any arrests or arrest warrants which would come out
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Speaker 1: of Mexico? Right, And I've talked to the FBI, US
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Speaker 1: Marshals as well as the state at tarn General's office
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Speaker 1: in Mexico, all tell me they do not have any
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Speaker 1: information about an arrest being made. However, it is confirmed
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Speaker 1: that an arrest warrant has been issued by the state
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Speaker 1: Attorney General in Baja California, Sore where Cabo is. But
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Speaker 1: like that report said, they have not identified the person
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Speaker 1: by name. They have just said this is for the
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Speaker 1: direct attacker in this interia. Yeah, I'm looking at that.
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor for Baja California, Sir states that a friend of
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Speaker 1: Robinson's quote who is the direct aggressor which I take
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Speaker 1: to mean the woman beating her in the head in
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Speaker 1: the video, is being sought by international authorities on charges
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Speaker 1: of femicide charges A femicide, Now, femicide, to my understanding,
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Speaker 1: in Mexico is the way they describe the murder of
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Speaker 1: a female. What is that, Joe Bruno? Certainly the femicide
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Speaker 1: is basically, when a female is murdered, they look at
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Speaker 1: whether she was killed for reasons due to her gender,
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Speaker 1: or perhaps it was due to domestic violence exactly. Oftentimes,
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Speaker 1: when a woman is killed in Mexico, the case starts
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Speaker 1: as femicide, and once they investigate they determine those aren't
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Speaker 1: the factors. Then it gets recategorized to a homicide. So
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Speaker 1: it's essentially a type of homicide investigation by local authorities.
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Speaker 1: Take listen to our cut forty six from Musy. Mexican
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Speaker 1: prosecutors have said the suspect is an American and the
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Speaker 1: charges are femicide. Mexican prosecutors said in a statement Robinson's
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Speaker 1: death was the result of a quote direct at tech,
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Speaker 1: not an accident. Mexican law enforcement has requested the suspect
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Speaker 1: be extradited back across the border so she can face
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Speaker 1: charges that would require US authorities to hand over an
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Speaker 1: American citizen and so a foreign government she is going
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Speaker 1: to have to be extradited to Mexico. I do see
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Speaker 1: that happening. Deborah Blum is a criminal defense attorney in
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Speaker 1: New York. Blooms this. While she expects the extradition to happen,
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Speaker 1: it could be a process to get it done. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna have to have their day in for it, where
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Speaker 1: the person that's excuse of this gets to say I
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Speaker 1: don't agree to extradition, and then they get to have
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Speaker 1: a judicial hearing in front of the judge. The FBI
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Speaker 1: is also opened an investigation into Robinson's death. Thank God
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Speaker 1: in Heaven, the FBI is on it. Okay, everything you
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Speaker 1: just heard by the lawyer is it's a technical legal term.
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Speaker 1: It's Latin. It's called BS. You might be familiar with
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Speaker 1: that because IRV Brandt joining me from the US Marshal Service,
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Speaker 1: Isn't it true? Extradition is not the killer's quote day
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Speaker 1: in court. That's when you have a jury to determine
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Speaker 1: if you're guilty or innocent. An extradition is real easy.
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Speaker 1: Let's just pretend Howard over there as a killer and
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Speaker 1: I find her a hold up under her mama's bed
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Speaker 1: in Tennessee. I don't have a court hearing about guilt
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Speaker 1: or innocence. I drag her to a Tennessee court and
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Speaker 1: in my other hand, I have an extradition. It's one
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Speaker 1: piece of paper signed by the Governor of Georgia saying
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Speaker 1: Jackie is wanted for murder. All I have to do,
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Speaker 1: or Brandt, is drag her from her under her mom's
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Speaker 1: bed to a courtroom in Tennessee and say, judge, here's
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Speaker 1: the governor's extradition order. This is Jackie Howard. And then
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Speaker 1: the governor asked her. The judge asked her one question,
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Speaker 1: are you Jackie Howard? If she says yes, she's gone
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Speaker 1: on the next jail bus to Georgia. If she says no,
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Speaker 1: then I get to do a fingerprint kit on her
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Speaker 1: right there in court and show it to the judge.
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Speaker 1: Then we put her on a jailbus to Georgia. It's
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Speaker 1: not a trial, it's not really even a fact finding process.
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Speaker 1: It's just are you Jackie? That's all it is. Agreed,
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Speaker 1: disagree or of brandt? No, I agreed. The process as
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Speaker 1: you just laid out for state to state is actually
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Speaker 1: a good comparison to how it works internationally. Why do
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Speaker 1: you sound so calm? Why can you sound so calm?
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Speaker 1: Or are you just like exhausted from all the murder
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Speaker 1: extraditions and man hunts that you've been on all around
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Speaker 1: the world. Yes, I mean this girl got beaten, dead,
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Speaker 1: dragged out of bed and hitting the head till she's
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Speaker 1: internally decapitated. Yes, Nancy, I served as the chief Inspector
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Speaker 1: at the Office of International Affairs for DOJ. Okay, in
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Speaker 1: that case, let me formally apologize for anything that I
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Speaker 1: just said, because you clearly know a lot more than me.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, okay, I'll quickly run you through it. During
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Speaker 1: my time at DOJ at OIA I supervised hundreds of
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Speaker 1: these type of cases, just like you said. And when
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Speaker 1: the warrant is issued and the suspect is identified and
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Speaker 1: a foreign government sends the request to OIA OIA attorneys,
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Speaker 1: they're assistant United States attorneys, assigned the case to the
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Speaker 1: district where the suspect it is in in this case,
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Speaker 1: it would be Charlotte, North Carolina, and then the AUSA
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Speaker 1: there evaluates evidence, you know, the probable cause, which in
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Speaker 1: this case seems fairly cut and dry. They have a video,
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Speaker 1: then they prepare it for a judge who evaluates it
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Speaker 1: there's probable costs, may issue an extradition warrant. Then that
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Speaker 1: person is taken into custody, and just like you said,
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Speaker 1: only there's no day in court. They're not trying the
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Speaker 1: case in Charlotte. They're going to try the case in Mexico.
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Speaker 1: The only thing they're going to determine at that time.
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Speaker 1: The first thing is is that the person that the
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Speaker 1: Mexican authorities want. It's basically an identity hearing. Then they'll
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Speaker 1: determine if that person is going to be released pending
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Speaker 1: the extradition process before their return to Mexico. They're not
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Speaker 1: going to have a trial in Charlotte on a murder
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Speaker 1: case that's going to take place in Mexico. Just answer
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Speaker 1: that real question really fast. H double l n O.
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Speaker 1: Once they get them in court, they're not going to
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Speaker 1: be released. Unlikely. They are getting on a bus to
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Speaker 1: take them to a plane to have them handcuffed on
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Speaker 1: the plane and taken to Mexico. Time Stories with Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace Quilla Wong is joining me. This San's sister. What
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Speaker 1: are police telling your mom as right now? Nothing? Um,
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Speaker 1: the FBI, Well, she's in contact with them. It's just
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Speaker 1: pretty much they tell me they can't you or any
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Speaker 1: information and to just be patient. Guys, I want you
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Speaker 1: to take a listen to our cut forty, our friend
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Speaker 1: Nikki Houser. We came to ensure that there is enough
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Speaker 1: people putting pressure on the entire system to do what
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Speaker 1: is necessary to get justice for this young woman. Among
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Speaker 1: the mourners this weekend activist Tamika Mallory, who spoke during
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Speaker 1: the service and promised to get answers in Shanquilla's case.
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Speaker 1: Losing a loved one in the heinous way in which
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Speaker 1: has happened to Shanquilla, there probably will never be peace
23:48
Speaker 1: for them. But there cannot just be an unopened situation.
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Speaker 1: It has to be closed with truth, and it has
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Speaker 1: to be that there is accountability for those who are
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Speaker 1: responsible for her death. Joe Bruno joining me from w
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Speaker 1: S OCTV. Joe, trust me. I don't want to kill
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Speaker 1: the messenger that would be you. But explain to me
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Speaker 1: why missus Robinson desistant. Calla's mother has to have vigils
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Speaker 1: and she has to have activists and protests to put
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Speaker 1: her daughter's killers on trial. What is I don't understand that.
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Speaker 1: I know you said you had to go looking for him,
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Speaker 1: and you're the investigative reporter. They've deactivated their social media,
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Speaker 1: they change their cell phones, and they're hiding that from
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Speaker 1: their apartments. Okay. I have faced that maybe a thousand
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Speaker 1: times prosecuting a case. Of course, they leave because they
24:47
Speaker 1: know they're in trouble, but that should not stop local
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Speaker 1: police from finding them. What are you learning, Joe? Just
24:55
Speaker 1: give me some good news, Give me any news. One
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Speaker 1: of my were Knox to an address associated with the
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Speaker 1: person believed to have attacked Shinquala in that video. While
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Speaker 1: no one answered the door, I noticed a business card
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Speaker 1: taped to the door for the forsythe County Sheriff's Office
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Speaker 1: investigator Forsythe county would be the county that issues a warrant,
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Speaker 1: because that's the county that she resides in. But that
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Speaker 1: tells me at least that there are local authorities actively
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Speaker 1: attempting to get in contact with the people that were
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Speaker 1: on this trip. You mean arrest are sorry arians, I
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Speaker 1: know you nicely said get in contact, okay, Ji Breno,
25:44
Speaker 1: that is giving me a little bit of good news.
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Speaker 1: Quill Along, did you hear that this guy, Joe Bruno
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Speaker 1: WSOCTV is out trailing tracking trying to find the people
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Speaker 1: involved with your sister's homicide. He could tell that, at
26:01
Speaker 1: least in one instance, the cops had already been there,
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Speaker 1: local cops. That's what we need, local cops finding them,
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Speaker 1: getting them to court. Because there are arrest warrants. We
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Speaker 1: just need them extradited. What about that, Quilla, that's a start.
26:16
Speaker 1: I mean, because before Joe Bruno information, I really didn't
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Speaker 1: think they were doing anything looking for anybody. I can't
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Speaker 1: believe that it's just taken this long. And doctor Bethany
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Speaker 1: Marshall psycho Alice to the Stars joining us out of
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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. You can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall
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Speaker 1: dot com unless you want to watch her on Netflix
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Speaker 1: Humbling Empire, Doctor Bethany. That's a sad How do you
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Speaker 1: do that the dead girl's sister and mother have to
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Speaker 1: find out from w s OC Joe Bruno? No offense
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Speaker 1: to you, Bruno that the cops are trying to find
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Speaker 1: these women, I mean and the one guy. Why do
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Speaker 1: they have to hear it here story? You know, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: Obviously I've never worked for the DOJ, but when I
27:05
Speaker 1: heard there is a business card tacked to one of
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Speaker 1: the Purp stores, it seems just so paltry and so small,
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Speaker 1: because you know, these perpetrators just like they've videotaped everything.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a web expanding outwards to their friends,
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Speaker 1: their family, frantic calls, people are trying to get in
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Speaker 1: touch with to kind of cover up their tracks. So
27:30
Speaker 1: while I've never tracked somebody down except my own husband maybe,
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Speaker 1: but I've never tried to look for somebody. It seems
27:37
Speaker 1: like the tracks should be pretty clear. And you know,
27:41
Speaker 1: when you've been a victim of a crime, the worst
27:44
Speaker 1: thing is ambiguity and the unknown in the face of
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Speaker 1: the unknown. I set that so many times we read
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Speaker 1: our worst possible fears. Give the family something, Give them
27:56
Speaker 1: a little drop of hope, a little tidbit, something that
27:58
Speaker 1: they can hold on too well, you know, another thing.
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Speaker 1: To Or Brandt joining me, Senior Inspector at US Marshal
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Speaker 1: Service International Investigations Branch, was Chief Inspector at DJ Department
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Speaker 1: in Justice, International Affairs. It goes on and on. He
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Speaker 1: was also at the US Embassy in Kingston, Jamaica. This
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Speaker 1: happened in Mexico near carbo Or. There is a trail
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Speaker 1: a mile wide. And I'll tell you number one thing
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Speaker 1: to do. Get their credit cards, get their subpoena easy
28:34
Speaker 1: show up. Don't wait from to mail them. Find out
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Speaker 1: where they're charging and where those bills are going, where
28:42
Speaker 1: they hang out. I mean, do they charge every single
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Speaker 1: day at the soup shop on the corner. Then go
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Speaker 1: there and sit there and wait and get them. I
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Speaker 1: guarantee you finding their new cell numbers, finding where they're
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Speaker 1: spending money. What ATM do they go to to get theirs?
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Speaker 1: That's how you're gonna find them. Earth that's correct, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure once the warrants are issued, the federal
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Speaker 1: warrants are issued, the FBI, the US Marshall Service, the
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Speaker 1: local authorities. Well, do exactly what you're talking about. They're issued,
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Speaker 1: v they're issued. I'm not talking about the arrestaurant out
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Speaker 1: of Mexico. You can't arrest someone on a foreign arrestaurant.
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Speaker 1: It has to They have to be arrested once the
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Speaker 1: US district court issues the extradition warrant, and to my knowledge,
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Speaker 1: those haven't been issued yet. You know another thing I
29:42
Speaker 1: would say pronto, I would go to mommy and grandma
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Speaker 1: and auntie and I would exploit, put some pressure on
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Speaker 1: them and let them know there is no mommy daughter privilege.
29:55
Speaker 1: Oh no. And if they are hiding these women and
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Speaker 1: the friend, this male friend, they know where they are.
30:04
Speaker 1: If they are harboring a fugitive, I would put them
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Speaker 1: under the jail right along with the defendants because they
30:12
Speaker 1: are obstructing justice. Quill along. What about this guy, this friend,
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Speaker 1: guy who is he don't you all know where he lives? Yes,
30:19
Speaker 1: but in that house, I bet he's not gonna They
30:23
Speaker 1: have to be with a relative, stand with a relative.
30:25
Speaker 1: I don't even think his mama is even going to work.
30:29
Speaker 1: Last thing, I heard that. I don't even believe she
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Speaker 1: works there any longer. Really, so is everybody clearing out? Quill?
30:36
Speaker 1: I mean, help me tell me what's happening? What do
30:38
Speaker 1: you know? You know these other women went to college
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Speaker 1: with her, and I would say, you know they got
30:44
Speaker 1: have college degree. Say they're not complete idiots. They did
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Speaker 1: video a homicide, so they may be back in the
30:49
Speaker 1: idiot category they are, But you do know you know
30:53
Speaker 1: who the guy is? Who is the guy? What is
30:57
Speaker 1: his name? Eliah Cook? Say what Cook? That's right? Coalia Cook?
31:02
Speaker 1: And he is no longer in his house? Is his
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Speaker 1: mother still at his house? Either one of them up there?
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Speaker 1: They're both gone? Oh so he snugged up with mommy?
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Speaker 1: Okay or brand? What do we do now? Track them all?
31:14
Speaker 1: Track then both Yeah, you're right, and everyone associated with him, Nancy,
31:20
Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to get away once
31:23
Speaker 1: U those US warrants are issued. They're going to be
31:29
Speaker 1: taken into custody fairly quickly. There. I'm sure they're tracking
31:36
Speaker 1: them now and an anticipation of the warrants. And then
31:40
Speaker 1: once they have the warrants, those people, you know, however,
31:44
Speaker 1: many warrants are issued, those people will be taken into custody.
31:48
Speaker 1: Then they will be extradited back to Mexico. They don't
31:52
Speaker 1: have a political leg to stand on. Um. We extually
32:00
Speaker 1: to night people back and forth between the US and
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Speaker 1: Mexico on a daily basis. It's going to happen. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Tim Gallagher a medical examiner for the state of Florida.
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Speaker 1: You can find him at pathcaremad dot com. You and
32:14
Speaker 1: I have both reviewed the video that these idiots shot
32:21
Speaker 1: while chan Quila is being killed. I'm just gonna go
32:27
Speaker 1: out on a limb because according to the autopsy report,
32:31
Speaker 1: she died within fifteen minutes of the blow to the head.
32:37
Speaker 1: What And I try not to do it, doctor Gallagher,
32:41
Speaker 1: but I keep putting my little girl. I keep thinking,
32:45
Speaker 1: what if I was having to look at this video
32:49
Speaker 1: and it was my girl or my son? And I
32:54
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what Missus Robinson is going through. Could
32:59
Speaker 1: you detail for people they have not seen the video?
33:03
Speaker 1: And Fox Nation, I hope you're running it what this girl,
33:07
Speaker 1: shan quill it went through with her friends. You know,
33:11
Speaker 1: certainly the trauma is us. It's just well, Number one
33:16
Speaker 1: is disgusting. The entire um, the entire episode, the entire
33:21
Speaker 1: the entire situation is just absolutely disgusting. Um. You know,
33:25
Speaker 1: when after she got attacked, she felt every blow to
33:30
Speaker 1: her body, and when she got the fatal blow, the
33:36
Speaker 1: fatal blow to the head, she can feel you can
33:40
Speaker 1: feel that within your body. You can feel your bones breaking,
33:43
Speaker 1: You can feel the paralysis come over you. You are
33:49
Speaker 1: unable to defend yourself. You have no connection to your
33:53
Speaker 1: arms and your legs any further, so you cannot move,
33:56
Speaker 1: you can out walk, you or totally helpless, you know,
34:00
Speaker 1: but still you are conscious. You are still conscious for
34:04
Speaker 1: part of that time, and you can still see the
34:07
Speaker 1: people around you, are still very aware of the violent
34:11
Speaker 1: situation around You can still hear the voices of the
34:14
Speaker 1: people you know who are attacking you. But she wouldn't
34:17
Speaker 1: be able to move right because her spineman severed right.
34:20
Speaker 1: She would be paralyzed and she would not be able
34:25
Speaker 1: to move her arms, her legs. She would not even
34:28
Speaker 1: be able to speak, but she still would be able
34:32
Speaker 1: to hear, and she still would be able to see,
34:35
Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's that's the horror of the
34:38
Speaker 1: entire situation. You would still be able to understand what
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Speaker 1: you're hearing and still be able to see the violence
34:44
Speaker 1: around you, even though your spinal cord was severed. Yes,
34:48
Speaker 1: a few moments ago, Jackie White a note at me,
34:50
Speaker 1: which I thought in the heat of that moment was irrelevant,
34:53
Speaker 1: But now I'm rethinking it and I think it's entirely significant.
34:59
Speaker 1: She held up that chaquila was not found in the
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Speaker 1: bedroom where we see her getting beaten as her friend. Guy.
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Speaker 1: Is that who's videoing at Quilla. It's the guy videoing it,
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Speaker 1: that's one of them. That's not the actual friend that
35:17
Speaker 1: we know. He's in the room though, because he wants
35:19
Speaker 1: to do that. If of video and it when he
35:23
Speaker 1: paid the phone a little, you can see him on
35:25
Speaker 1: the left, clearly standing on the left. Again, they're on
35:28
Speaker 1: video Helloa Local Police. So the fact that Jackie pointed
35:34
Speaker 1: out to me her body is found in the living room,
35:39
Speaker 1: which Joe Bruno WSOCTV, that leads me to think that,
35:44
Speaker 1: I mean, once she hit the floor, she couldn't move anymore.
35:48
Speaker 1: They severed her spine. It looks like in the video
35:52
Speaker 1: did they drag her into the living room to make
35:54
Speaker 1: it appear as if she had been in there, not
35:57
Speaker 1: that they woke her up and then started to attack her, Joe,
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Speaker 1: because Jackie's telling me that she's found on the living
36:04
Speaker 1: room floor and that's from the autopsy report, right, yeah, yeah,
36:08
Speaker 1: it is. She's right. What does that say to you,
36:10
Speaker 1: Joe Bruno? Oh? When is she found with her clothes on? Her? Off? Off?
36:14
Speaker 1: Still off? Joe Bruno? Yeah, you know, the medical examiners
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Speaker 1: report as clear as day, found in her living room,
36:22
Speaker 1: died within fifteen minutes of her injuries. I don't have
36:26
Speaker 1: any information on whether she was closed or whether her
36:30
Speaker 1: body was moved. I do know that, and Quilla can
36:34
Speaker 1: also talk about this, that she had bumps on her face,
36:38
Speaker 1: her lips were cut. She clearly, clearly was showing signs
36:45
Speaker 1: of severe injury when she died. Severe spinal cord injury
36:50
Speaker 1: and at las luxation. That's what it says on the
36:54
Speaker 1: autopsi report, and that's what doctor Gallagher's describing and also
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Speaker 1: says person found unconscious on her living room floor, and
37:00
Speaker 1: we know her to be naked at the time of
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Speaker 1: the attack. Her mom told me that Chanqoela sleeps without
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Speaker 1: her clothes on, as many people do, and it looked
37:10
Speaker 1: like it was by the bed and the covers were
37:12
Speaker 1: thrown back. Remember the video Jackie, and it looked like
37:15
Speaker 1: she had just gotten up and they immediately started beating her.
37:18
Speaker 1: So how does she get in the living room, doctor Bethany.
37:22
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was clothed or not at
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Speaker 1: the time the doctor's got there, but since she died
37:28
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, I doubt it. Okay, Joe Bruno, I'm just
37:33
Speaker 1: stimy because I'm not sure what, if anything, is happening
37:37
Speaker 1: to bring this mother justice for her daughter. I mean,
37:42
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have children, but all I
37:43
Speaker 1: can think about is my children, one of them going
37:45
Speaker 1: away on a girl's getaway and then suddenly I got
37:48
Speaker 1: a call she's dead. It's incredibly frustrating to not be
37:53
Speaker 1: able to provide a lot of information or even have
37:56
Speaker 1: an inkling of what's going on. I hold on to
37:59
Speaker 1: the fact that I do find that business card tape
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Speaker 1: to the door associated with one of the people that
38:05
Speaker 1: went on this trip. And also this case has captivated
38:10
Speaker 1: Charlotte and really the world. Millions of people are watching this.
38:15
Speaker 1: Hundreds of people showed up to a vigil for Chinquola
38:19
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Black social media users in particular are
38:23
Speaker 1: demanding justice and keeping this story alive and we are
38:29
Speaker 1: trying to do just that. Another vigil over the weekend
38:33
Speaker 1: where Chinquola's mother is just twisted in half with pain.
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Speaker 1: Joe Bruno, who is responsible for the arrest Charlotte PD
38:42
Speaker 1: or brand Jump in the FBI? Who should be arresting
38:47
Speaker 1: these people that were involved in her death? Oh Nancy,
38:51
Speaker 1: Any law enforcement Once the extradition warrant is issued, any
38:56
Speaker 1: law enforcement agency can execute the warrant. It could be
39:00
Speaker 1: the local PD, it could be the FBI, it could
39:03
Speaker 1: be the US Marshall Service, and more unlikely will go
39:08
Speaker 1: to a task force made up of everyone that I
39:12
Speaker 1: just said to locate a fugitive and take them into custody.
39:19
Speaker 1: If you have information about the so called friends that
39:23
Speaker 1: stood by and watch or the one that beat her
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Speaker 1: until she's dead. Eight eight eight four zero seven forty
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