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Consultation vs Office Visit..The Difference. Listen To This Episode To Get Your Answer! · Health, Life & What’s Next

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  Jennifer GNC, where we discuss what it really takes to heal your body.
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  I'm honored.
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  I'm humble.
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  And I'm super happy really with this liver detox program.
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  But in today's podcast, we're all going to talk about.
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  The difference between a consultation and an office visit.
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  I realized that many people.
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  Don't really know what a consultation is.
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  We heard the word consultation we've consulted with maybe, a contractor.
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  But when it comes to medical, when it comes to doctors and experts in the medical field, Many of us have not experienced a consultation or we did.
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  And we don't really know what, how it's supposed to be, what the difference is.
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  as I'm doing this work and I'm seeing so many people in our practice, He and Denville, New Jersey and also doing tele-medicine.
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  And I'm asking multiple questions and I can see.
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  That by the patient that able to answer.
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  Those vital questions.
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  They have not.
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  Been in a consultation, they have been to office visit that's.
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  Everybody's exposed to an office visit.
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  We have all been to an office visit.
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  But today, I want to talk about the difference so that you, next time you go to a doctor's office.
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  You'll be able to make the difference between the two.
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  You'll be able to ask the doctor.
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  about the consultation.
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  Sort of office visits so that you can get the proper care and the treatment that you.
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  Mead.
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  That you desire that you're entitled to.
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  So again, office visit, we have aches and pains.
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  We call our doctor's office.
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  We have an office visit.
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  There's a bit of overlap.
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  Between an office visit.
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  Or a doctor's appointment and a consultation.
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  One thing I'm going to say right off the bat is that an office visit is very general.
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  If you can think about a time you went to a doctor's office, how simple was that?
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  It was quick.
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  Well, maybe the waiting time was longer.
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  But it was very general.
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  A standard office visit or doctor's appointment.
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  It's where you meet, which adapter for 10 to 15 minutes in duration.
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  10 to 15 minutes.
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  And during the visit.
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  Your doctor is addressing one or two issues.
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  So you go to your doctors typically.
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  An office visit will Intel a cold or flu.
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  Even a track infection to headache, or you need to get a script for medication.
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  Or the medication that you own is not working or you have acid reflux or stomach issues.
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  Like really, really general.
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  Straight to the point.
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  What is wrong with you?
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  You have a headache.
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  Isabelle.
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  That's an office visit.
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  And this will be something that has made you feel unwell.
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  And the last few days.
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  That's something that you've been experiencing for months or years.
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  So if you have high blood pressure, Or hypertension is a diagnosis.
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  High blood pressure is elevation of your blood pressure, right?
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  You are going to go to a doctor's office.
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  Your doctor's office is going to give you a pill.
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  Although you might have.
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  This high blood pressure for a while, but since it is presenting with symptoms at the headaches that most people get.
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  You are going to get a Pell.
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  But if you have a disease that you've according to calf conditions, You can do an office visit, but at the beginning you will have to see experts.
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  And consulting with different doctors.
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  Again, an office visit or standard doctor's appointment.
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  I can take anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes.
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  And the doctor's job is to address or manage a single issue or two.
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  And give you a quick, quick, quick recommendation, such as medications.
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  I recommend you take this medication.
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  Here's a script.
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  Goodbye.
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  Or have some blood work done and then you get a call from your doctor's office.
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  But it was out of the blood work.
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  And the medication called into your pharmacy.
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  When it comes to wheelie.
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  Address multiple issues.
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  You're going to have to make multiple office visits.
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  Or you're going to have to schedule what we call the consultation.
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  With the doctor, because office visits can only address again, one to two.
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  And the problem with that, it doesn't really lead to good outcome.
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  It doesn't.
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  So there's no way I'm going to find out the root cause of your headaches.
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  If I'm seeing you for 10 to 15 minutes.
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  There's no way I'm going to listen to your story.
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  And find unset of this issue.
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  If I'm only meeting with you.
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  For 10 to 15 minutes.
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  It doesn't lead to good outcome.
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  So that's why patients have to be seen every 15 minutes.
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  This type of medicine.
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  So if one patient is late, Then it will mess it up for the rest of the patient.
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  That's why when we go to a doctor's office, we waiting for 45 minutes.
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  Pass your appointment time leading up to an hour.
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  It is not fair to you.
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  It's not fair to the people that are coming after you, and also not fair for the people that are arriving on time.
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  So with this type of office visit.
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  The doctor it has to see a patient every 15 minutes.
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  So then he or she is allowed to see three to four people.
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  But I have more.
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  And the effort is made in managing the length of the doctor's consultation.
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  If you have a shopping list of issues.
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  Uh, problem of longstanding issues.
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  They will not address that.
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  I remember when I was working in the hospital and also working in private practice.
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  I was told.
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  I can only address one to two issues.
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  If you come with your headaches and your stomach is hurting.
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  Yes.
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  I might give you something for acid reflux and give you medication for your headaches.
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  But if you come, you know, with the headaches, and then you have.
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  Postnasal drip.
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  Have palpitations.
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  Then you also have stomach issues.
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  And you have a rash on your skin.
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  Now I won't be able to handle all that.
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  Although all of the might be related.
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  That's like an infection, Everything is related.
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  Toxins and everything inflammation, but I'm only allowed to address one to two.
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  So then we have to decide which one is the most problematic.
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  Is it the headache is a pill.
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  I mean, of course the headache is in a very discomfort is going to create more discomfort.
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  Then, then I give you a pill.
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  So that's what an office visit is.
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  And the problem with that is that you cannot really, as I mentioned, can identify the wheel issue.
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  There's no real solution.
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  You will either be put in a medication for a long time and be forgotten.
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  And you stay on that medication for a very long time.
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  Or you might experience side effects of the medication and new you reach out to the doctor.
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  They haven't changed the medication.
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  Your body can get used to the medication.
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  So it doesn't work.
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  So at the end of the day, 10 to 15 minutes of seeing the patient is not ideal.
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  To me.
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  That's not something I would want for my patients for myself.
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  And that is something we should, as medical practitioners look into fixing.
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  I understand insurance has a lot to do with this.
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  Because we have to see so many people to bring revenue into the practice.
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  But I'm sure there's a solution or this where we can provide the most.
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  Effective care.
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  To our patients and really help them.
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  Address.
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  The half issues so they can.
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  Start healing.
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  And stay healthy.
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  So that's an office visit.
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  Again, every single human being, listening to this podcast.
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  Have experienced office visit can agree with some or two things that I sit in this first part of the podcast.
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  regarding the office visit.
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  But that's just the way it is.
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  To me, there are two types of consultation.
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  There's a consultation that you.
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  Have.
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  In.
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  The conventional.
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  Medicine space.
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  And then there's a consultation that she experienced in the functional medicine space.
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  In a conventional medicine space.
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  Uh, consultation with a doctor or an expert is a meeting with them.
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  To discuss a particular problem and get the advice.
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  Consultation is the process of getting advice from your doctors or expert?
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  That's the dictionary.
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  Definition of consultation in the conventional space.
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  For me in a functional medicine space, a consultation.
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  He has a process of meeting with.
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  Your doctor holistic doctor, any type of doctor.
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  In the functional medicine space.
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  To help identify the with cause.
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  Come up with the right.
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  Customize individualize.
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  Protocol for you.
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  It is hard to conclude or come up with a diagnosis on the first accounter during the consultation.
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  That is why in the functional medicine space, a consultation it's two office visits.
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  So that's my process.
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  That's what I do at my patient.
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  They'll pay a fee of$430 at the time of this recording.
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  And we'll do.
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  The consultation.
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  So first they will receive an intake form and the food journal.
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  They will complete both forms and a consent for treatment consent sign as well.
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  They'll sign that and send it over.
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  Everything is electronic.
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  Prior to coming in with, ask them for them to upload.
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  The previous blood work.
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  Because we do not want to repeat things that were done already.
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  Not only, it's not fair to the patient.
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  and they paying out of pocket.
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  At the same time, if the doctor that prescribed the blood work.
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  I was able to find them with cars.
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  They would have had to work cause already.
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  So for me, I'm always to look, I'm always to find, I'm always trying to do.
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  And look for things that are not the same.
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  So I can give the patient a different solution, a different answer.
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  So they complete the intake form.
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  They complete the seven day food journal, the Sunday concentric man, they upload the blood work.
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  I look at all this documents.
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  I usually take an hour to an hour and a half the pendant and the severity of the case.
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  to study the intake form.
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  To study the, previous blood work.
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  And also to look at the food journal in preparation for the consultation.
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  The first hour.com.
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  We'll talk about all about what's going on with them, the concerns, the issues they have in, we address all the issues from your head.
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  Do you have to, because again, if you have brain fog, You have fatigue.
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  You have headaches, you have, population you have, yes, it could be anxiety.
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  It could be migraine could be good issues.
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  We have to put everything on the table.
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  The goal of functional medicine is to restore the function of your body.
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  So I can not only address the migraine when I am really putting an effort in identifying those cause.
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  There's a reason why you have to migraine.
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  So there's a reason why you have the urinary tract infection.
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  There's a reason why you have anxiety.
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  There's a reason why you have insomnia difficulty sleeping.
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  The brain fog fatigue.
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  So that's all as reason why.
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  And by me just seeing you for 15 minutes or even 30 minutes, because that's how long it takes in the conventional world to do a consultation 30 to 45 minutes.
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  That's it.
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  They might be able to do some skins and then you meet with the doctor weekly to go over the scans or they'll call you.
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  Over the phone to go over the scan.
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  To me, that is not a true, true way of doing a consultation.
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  You have to meet with the human beings individually twice.
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  And each office visit is an hour long.
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  So in my world, the consultation is the prep time that I take.
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  The study does, I don't want to flip pages at Norma to look at the intake form while the patient is in front of me.
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  I want to focus on what they are telling me, because I need to identify and also come to term with the person they were before with the person they are now because the discomfort or disease body they have before they weren't born with that.
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  They were healthy at one point in the lives, or maybe they had little aches and pains there, but as the symptoms are progressing, they're getting worse.
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  We need to identify the person that has less issues so that we can see what the normal is for them.
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  That requires an hour long of asking the why questions.
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  And asking of what worked, what didn't work, what did they try before with other doctors?
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  And also.
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  It is, the goal not to repeat what was done before.
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  So if I see a doctor, give the patient medication for high blood pressure.
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  And it's put in the, intake form.
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  Then I'm not going to say, What did the doctor do?
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  They give him medication for, high blood pressure?
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  I saw it in the intake form.
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  So that is why we ask our patients to complete the intake form as much as possible.
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  So I can get all the information that I need to really help them.
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  That's the first portion of the consultation hour.
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  We talk, we identify what's going on.
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  Right then and there I'm able to give them a diagnosis.
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  I'm able to see what's going on with them, I, but I will let them know.
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  I think you might have this, I think from all the symptoms you.
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  You're reporting to me.
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  There are multiple issues going on in your body.
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  However, in order for us to really pinpoint the word issue, to come up with the word cause of all these health conditions or the symptoms and disease.
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  We need to do blood work.
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  Then I will give him a script.
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  For them to go to blood work.
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  And then once the blood work is available.
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  Then they will come back for a second part of the consultation.
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  So it's two office visits.
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  The first one is just getting to know the person here and what worked, what didn't work and prescribing blood work.
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  And then the second portion is to go over the blood work with them.
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  One by one.
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  To really address.
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  The abnormal values to educate them, to let them know they're not crazy.
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  Then I broke in something is going on.
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  Regardless, other doctors told them everything is normal.
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  There's nothing wrong with them.
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  But the blood work is showing otherwise.
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  And this is what we're going to do.
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  So we go over the blood work section by section markers, biomarkers.
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  I'm always pinpointed things that are going up and things that are going down.
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  and the blood work that I do is completely different than most blood work.
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  So many of those markers, even if I were to just call them on the phone and say, Hey, this, and this is elevated, they will get very confused.
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  Because.
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  Regular doctors, the typical doctors are not prescribing blood work that I prescribed.
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  The goal for me in the initial investment of the consultation is to identify the with cause.
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  So I don't want to miss anything.
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  I'm always going to do blood work that is mostly covered by insurance, but.
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  During the first visit.
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  consultation the patient and I will sit down and discuss the best options for them.
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  I'm making recommendations, but it is up to them.
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  To decide what's best for them.
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  I will give him all the information.
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  I think he should do functional blood work.
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  That takes you to conventional blood work, but at the end of the day, They get to decide.
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  Which one, according to whatever financial situation they're going through or, insurance, or we decide that.
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  And then they go off and do the blood work.
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  At the end of new, if you end the blood work in the second part of the consultation.
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  I will prescribe.
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  Oh, recommend or present.
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  A protocol.
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  Am I protocols are usually almost customized individualized for the patient.
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  But if we are enrolled in a group program, then the protocol will be somewhat customized for the patients, but I'm also always choosing.
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  The products that have proven to work for majority of people out there.
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  And within the group program, patient will have access to me as well to tell me how well they're doing and we can make changes there.
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  They still get in.
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  Semi customized protocol.
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  But if I'm working with a patient that has fatty liver disease and every single human being in the program has fatty liver disease.
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  Great.
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  And I'm giving them a plateau or meal plan.
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  Herbs for fatty liver disease, they all going to get the same herbs and products.
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  However, we might tweak it for different for one or two people if they have, if they are sensitive to herbs.
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  So we always looking for ways to.
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  Really cater to the individual what are you in a group or doing the one-on-one.
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  So that is a consultation.
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  It is a two-part process.
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  It is focused on identifying the root cause of the problem.
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  It is focused on partnering up with the patient.
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  But the goal of the consultation besides a site, aside from fighting the would cause.
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  It's really too.
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  Educate.
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  The patient.
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  They need to know what's going on in the body.
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  So I take a lot of time doing the consultation to educate the patient.
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  I laughed.
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  Because it is important.
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  For them, not only to know it, but to understand it.
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  And the case of bloat when people have bloating.
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  So when you have bloating, It's because you eat in something and the pathogen is fermenting on that food, and then you blocked, There's guys produce a new blocked.
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  If you have, you know, a rash, you need to understand the reason we have a rash because you have toxins coming out of your pores.
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  And the toxins weren't properly managed or processed by your liver, by your kidneys.
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  Now they are in your bloodstream and now you have acne psoriasis.
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  Eczema.
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  You know, so on and so forth.
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  When the patient understands that they understand that they need to do some work to decrease the toxic load, or they need to make changes in the diet to really help them.
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  Tackle these issues.
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  Properly.
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  The most effective.
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  Way.
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  I'm a big fan for consultation in the functional medicine space.
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  Seeing your doctor.
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  Twice.
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  And our visit each time getting tons of education, understanding information.
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  Doing the proper blood work without breaking your bank.
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  And also looking.
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  And identifying the would cause.
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  So hopefully at the end of this podcast, You understand the huge difference between a standard appointment doctor's appointment.
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  Office visit.
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  This is a consultation.
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  Even the consultation in the medical or conventional space is still brief is 30 minutes, 45 minutes.
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  and sometimes there's no we'll follow up or you just get a call with an insert.
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  And have a patient who did a consultation with an oncologist.
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  She has breast cancer.
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  And they sent her out to do a biopsy.
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  They literally called her on the phone and said, you have cancer.
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  Hello, you have cancer.
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  That's horrible.
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  She's been losing sleep.
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  She hasn't been eating because cancer is not something that anybody wants.
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  With all the one that got sick, but to call the human being on the phone and say you have cancer.
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  and then she asked to see the report.
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  She went through her portal and look at the report and she has no idea what all these numbers and measurements and doctor this.
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  And like, she has no idea, like.
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  Cancer is a carcinoma.
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  She has no idea.
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  But nobody sat down and explained to her.
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  They just thought she has cancer.
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  She needs to come and discuss treatment options.
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  And they started telling radiation this chemotherapy that she might be on a medication for five years.
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  And so there's a lab.
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  One I heard over the phone.
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  Which is not right.
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  Even when you do go see a doctor.
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  For follow-up after a consultation to go over the results.
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  Or imaging results of blood work.
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  It's very brief.
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  So you have to really create room for the person to absorb the information so they don't go into information overload.
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  To understand what you're saying, because it's all about understanding once.
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  The patient understand something.
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  They can truly, truly understand it.
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  Then they'll know why they need to do what they need to do.
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  You don't have to force them to do anything.
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  They'll take actions.
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  So that's why I'm huge in educating.
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  My patients so that they can literally understand what's going on internally.
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  And implement the recommendations.
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  And see results.
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