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Scouting the Fins-4-2-26 · 3 Yards Per Carry - Miami Dolphins

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's up everybody, welcome to another episode of Scouting the Finns right here on the 3rd Brigade podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coach, Eric, Kyle Krabs of Lockdown Dolphins, CK, Alf, and Simon as they break Dolphins' news and discussions on the Miami Dolphins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is draft season, so we do have a lot of draft talk coming on, and today's episode, we'll be focusing on the wide receiver class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coach, this is a really deep wide receiver class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know that we have the star power at the top that we've seen in some of the other drafts, but it is a very deep wide receiver class, and that's a really good thing for the dolphins this season, because wide receiver was a need before the jail and water trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously now that Jalen Waddle is no longer part of the team, there are a lot of targets to fill in that offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that probably some of the guys that we'll be talking about in this episode are going to be eating up some of those targets come regular season 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've heard John Erick Sullivan and Jeff Hathley talk about getting weapons for Malik Willis and Jeff Hathley kind of hinted in an interview with Kay Adams that Malik Willis will be getting players to throw to end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you and I can both deduce as long as with many other dolphins fans, that the dolphins could look to draft maybe up to two wide receivers with one of their first seven picks in, you know, the top 100.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree when you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you stockpile picks away the dolphins have and it provides great opportunities to double down maybe even triple down on some positions in wide receiver given what's in the room right now and the depth of the the pool of wide receivers in this draft is a great opportunity to use some of those assets to double down and get multiple guys to through the ball to here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, mine it doesn't have a true liable number one receiver on their roster at all, even with the addition of two to at well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't even have, you know, a wide receiver who started in the NFL over six foot or even six one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about, you know, these are guys, you know, five 11 and under their fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not necessarily the most physical guys, but they do have speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think of mine, it will look to balance that speed,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, that physicality, that violence, that run blocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But most importantly, they want wider sewers with size, speed, and can work in zone coverage, especially in Bobby's low-ac system, that tries to manipulate the zone coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of defense is plays zone coverage so that way they have people around the middle of the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't get beat over the top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really important that these wider sewers, not a dolphin's draft out
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can do really well in zone defense and they can get yards in that zone defense, whether it's through, you know, yards after the catch, whether it's going up for the ball in contested situations or just breaking tackles and the biggest thing for the wider severs in this draft class to see if you're successful is the zone yards per reception rate or.
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[SPEAKER_00]: yards after the catch in zone coverage and usually the best indicator for that is a 3.0 or a buff or a run like a 2.5 or a buff zone yards per route run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about how many yards they run in that route after the catch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jail and model in Tyree Hill both had elite numbers in zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in Bobby Slowiex system, they need to be able to replicate that without Tyrie Kil in June and Water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a couple of them in this draft coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that, you know, when we talk about what John and I are solving in Jeff Haffley have said over the course of their time with Miami and how they've been very upfront with the fans and you know, how they're going to build this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not having the smaller series, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that you don't not gonna have any of them, but they made it clear that they were gonna add more size in that room when both John and Erick Sullivan and Jeff Haffley have talked about just scouting overall, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've talked about how the film comes before everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they kind of reiterated that at the owner's meetings this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't have great film if you don't have,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can have good film without great production, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are some exceptions, but kind of as a general rule, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's difficult to put together great film without the production to go along with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that, you know, it makes a lot of sense what you're saying with the yards per route run against zone coverage, that's gonna be a key thing here because that shows up on the film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we've got four hour archetypes for the 17 players we'll be talking about in this episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first archetype is obviously the elite zone separators.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter their size, it doesn't matter their speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's how they do up against zone coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And these guys have a 3.0 or plus zone yards per route run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking guys like Mackay Lemon, who
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, a lot of people are mocking to the Miami Dolphins at number 11.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second type of archetype, you just have, you know, guys who are zone threats just a bit under that first archetype here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You talk about guys who are comparable to Julian Edelman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have, you know, a 2.5 to almost 3.0 zone yards per route run and there, which is above average.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The third one is obviously your dominant number one, X, X receiver, tall, contested catch, jump ball specialist can play up against Manuel, is above average in zone, but more so better in men.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about six to six, three, six four guys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think about guys like, you know, George Pickins, your wide receiver ones, like DK Metcalf, Tate McMillan from the Carolina Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think of those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the very last one is your zone, guys who are your slots and, you know, your Arjoff to catch chain movers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are the guys who have a below 2.0 yards per route run on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: these are slot heavy wider severs that can't necessarily win outside one on one in against press coverage or need a little bit of help from motions from screens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think of guys like
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, maybe like a Malik Washington type of player or a Michael Thomas type of player when he was with the New Orleans Saints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go ahead and get right into a coach who's the first guy on the Dolphins board in the first archetype.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the first one that we have on there in the the elite zone separators is Bryce
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[SPEAKER_01]: quite as high on them, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the production is great for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely can't argue with that side of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest question is going to be the level of competition and where that production came from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He obviously tested very well, athletically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that, you know, show some good run after the cat shows the ability to track that ball deep, but a lot of the stuff just kind of looked the same with him when he was succeeding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, my opinion on bracelets, I don't, I don't know how to put it into words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: cleanly, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you watch certain things, it feels like something is off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like some of the ways that he adjusted to poorly thrown balls, some of the ways that, you know, when he's catching the ball, doesn't always look natural to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I get the intrigue with him and I would support the upside if that was the direction the dolphins were go would go, but I don't, I don't know that for me, he comes off as a completely clean prospect that I wouldn't have concerns with how he would translate to the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I see him as a day one talent, more so like a day two talent in the second or third round if my man were to go and in that direction, I mean he has the best zone yards per route run in the class, 4.31, 11 foot, broad jump, 6, 3, 2, 105 pounds, 7th best relative athletic score of all wide receivers of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's comparable to Christian Watson
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Packers under John Erick Sullivan also drafted Christian Watson also played at North Dakota State.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think of a guy who's, you know, running that vertical stem at that exposition, the defense of back is in off coverage because he can threaten you with this 4.3440 speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The gap between him and the cornerback will grow if he's going up there vertically, even enough coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the defense of Vax have to adjust his body to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could convert that 50-50 jump ball into a potential routine reception now, not always, but sometimes, and that's what the dolphins have
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[SPEAKER_00]: question is coach, you know, he played in the FCS.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He needs time to develop his press release technique.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily see him being a starter week one, even though he has that vertical stretch, he can stretch the safety, he can stretch, you know, that cover two that can open up underneath crossers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't just beat Zone coverage with his speed alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to need some help, but that's where Bobby Sloak's offense comes in with the motions, the screens, the timing, running the ball out of play action first so that way defenses get baited into throwing over the top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are, like I said, there are the traits to like there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the speed that you can like there is the big body that you can like he has the ability to shield defenders for the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has the size and the athletic ability to go up and get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can find a way to to scheme him open and totally figures out how to truly beat one-on-one coverage, I think that for me, like that's kind of where I
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[SPEAKER_01]: have that number one potential that those ones that have number one potential to me or the guys that you can go out there and when a defense decides they want to put their best corner on him and cover him one on one that you still have the ability to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is a leap for bright slants to get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I again I like bright slants but I think that we're going to talk about some other receivers that I like more than him in this draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the best fit for the dolphins in this draft is going to be McIelevin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he fits perfectly into the age group, the salary fee picked at number 11 and, you know, the schematic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's got a 3.21 zone yards,
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[SPEAKER_00]: her route run, which is elite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like his fit and his comp is Amonarase Brown and Jailin model.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's up there in those data, the metrics, the archetypes such as Jackson Smith, Njubev, Jailin model, the way Neskrich, Jamar Chase, Devonta Smith, and the dolphins have confirmed
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[SPEAKER_00]: is pretty real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think that when you traded Jalen Waddle, you opened the door to have the conversations about a player like McCuy Lemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: McCuy Lemon, to me, is going to be a high volume type receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be somebody that you've had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to give them a lot of targets to see that production, does well running after the catch, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's somebody that will
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[SPEAKER_01]: as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not, not the biggest guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's not going to be a dominant block around there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a willing blocker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that I heard that he was a three-time captain at USC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, really, really good after the catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really tough to bring down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that kind of interest me I guess with him is like, he runs kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: how he's kind of like a flat footed striker or something like that or a heel striker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know all the intricate details of what's good running and what's not, but when I see him run, there was a video clip and I don't remember who it was, but it was a defensive back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that was talking about Tyre Kill and was talking about how difficult it is to basically cover the guys that run funny because they don't look natural so it's more difficult to anticipate the moves they're going to make and that's kind of like a key part for me with McCye Lemon because you know you might not have that long speed from a 40 perspective
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[SPEAKER_01]: makes it less predictable, is to win and how he's going to cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's something like I said, it's just, it looks funny when he runs to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember that clip about somebody talking about Tyre Kill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I forget who else was named in that, but the way that they don't run naturally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like there's, there's kind of something there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably probably not the guy
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[SPEAKER_01]: where you probably have to take him, but I could definitely see the intrigue with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you talk about the way he's running funny, it fits again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfectly, you know, you get a play action cross or working exactly as design.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He picks up that six yard, you know, underneath crossing route takes it, you know, 14, 15 yards, you get a first down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only concern is his hands are below the nine inch thresholds, most
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[SPEAKER_00]: Previously, Malik Willis was known to throw some off target balls, but last season, he didn't have a lot of off target balls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been working the off season to throw the ball to get much more accurate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if that inaccuracy is still there, I think I'm a Kylimin coach struggle in the NFL, especially if he can't beat press coverage, especially if he sized up against bigger and physical defense and back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, now we're gonna move on to our second archetype is the zone threat here just below the first archetype.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are wider seabers who beat zone coverage at a high level, but don't necessarily have that upside to be a true number one wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, the first one we have on our list is Eric Rivers out of Georgia Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's more so of a speed slot guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: see him more so like a Julian Edelman type of guy he played in the slot 21% of the time at Georgia Tech than 80% of the time you know outwide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and this is a play that I'm not as familiar with right but when we talk about the options that were opened up with a
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of the same thing with an Arab river, and they've shown interest in Macaylemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could see where they would be interested in a player like Riverview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You made that comparison to Julian Edelman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we have Malik
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[SPEAKER_01]: Washington on the roster, I think he does some of those things, but he doesn't have that long speed, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like a more like a four or six type guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, when you get somebody, he's not that bulky either, you know, he's some, a 180 pounds too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if you can get some of that has that short area, quickness to wait that movie, Washington does, but then add some speed to it the way that Eric Rivers has,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you can really open some stuff up and we talk about the ability to find those openings in zones, maybe it's running up the seam, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now you're talking about what could have been a 20-yard game turning into 60-70 yards taken into the house, so definitely a player to be interested in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't necessarily see him as a starter in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he'll be taken with one of the top 100 bits just because of his size, even though he has this speed, and the data to back it up, he does not necessarily have the size that John Erick Sullivan, and Jeff Hathley are looking for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you got to have a combination of a lot of other things in terms of run blocking in terms of physicality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has the route running as a speed, but it doesn't have to have you other too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think if he was drafted by Miami, it would be redundancy of having, you know, a
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[SPEAKER_00]: The next guy, he's actually got a really, really good story to coach, Ted Hurst out of Georgia State.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He started his career at Vision 2 of Valdoza State, zero stars at a high school, walked on into Valdoza State, and he transferred over to Georgia State.
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[SPEAKER_00]: six three and three quarters almost two hundred and seven pounds run a four point four two forty six point nine three three cone drill two point six one zone yards uh or route run uh really really good in man coverage uh 95th percentile in contested catch rate as well uh he's in that you know second tier of guys uh
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, in that zone coverage type of audio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a comp that I've been looking around for him is a guy like Michael Gallup, who used to be in Dallas, who was complimentary to Des Bryant, when he played with the Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that that comp makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the his strengths winning against man covered makes a lot of sense because he is a very physically talented player has an NFL body ready's up there almost six foot four over 200 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: feels like he, you know, he's kind of a smooth striker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel like he looks as fast as what he is out there, but you see him constantly separating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even though the hands are inconsistent, you do see flashes of, you know, really strong hands, making some some amazing catches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if that comes down to a concentration thing, like, is that something that you can get more consistent with similar brushlands, I think that he tracks
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[SPEAKER_01]: downfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, you know, he has everything on the menu, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can, you can go deep, you can throw it back shoulder, you can play above the rim like you can do all of that stuff, just need to find a way to be able to do that consistently because I think that if you, if you could find consistency with Ted Hurst and you had him playing at a bigger school,
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[SPEAKER_01]: type of conversation, but obviously those things do exist, and that's why he is at Georgia State, and that's why he's not really talked about among those top five receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What we're talking about, physical talent and upside, if you think that you can fix the things that need to improve with that earth, then you could be looking at a really good value here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think he is still raw like he needs to focus on his release package and more so running precise routes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He does have a lot of long strides when he's running, not sure if you've noticed that and that's how you can get to his top speed, but that'll take time especially when he's running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: those vertical routes, more so underneath, not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not necessarily the possession, ex-type of wider receiver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a red zone jump ball specialist, vertical compliment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be the guy who's driving the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's the type of guy who wins in the end zone, back shoulder fades, stretches the same beyond play action verticals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's more like a day two guy like late third early fourth who has a small school profile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Miami does take him with one of those picks there, you need to bear him opposite a guy like, if you pick up a Kylamin in the first round or another guy we're actually transitioning to Omar Cooper Jr. out of Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in Cooper Jr. We talked about my Kylamin being a high volume type guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like Cooper Jr is as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen the comparison multiple times to Omar Cooper Jr to Jarvis Landry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can see that when you turn on the tape, like Cooper's a little bit bigger than what Jarvis Landry was probably runs a bit faster than what Landry did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you talk about the physicality, the ability to catch the ball away from his body, you know, as little surprised at the 4.4 to 40,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that showed up on the film, but he's obviously got that in his bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's more of a thicker build almost like a running back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's going to be one of those players that
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[SPEAKER_01]: you could probably put him out wide, but is probably going to be better operating in the slot being a very cuby friendly player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you think of, and not quite the same size, but like a Marcus Colston, right, a bigger slot type receiver, not necessarily your, your quick runaway from guys, but, you know, kind of finding those zones, and then, you know, I think he's better after
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just think that this is, again, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Jarvis Landry, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can throw in the ball 115 times a season and you're gonna get good production out of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, I find it really interesting what his alignment split was at Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 51.2% of the time he was lined up wide, 48.2% of the time he was lined up in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That tells you that, you know, he's a genuine flex receiver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who can operate from either from the slot or outwide without, you know, a drop off in his production.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He played with Fernando Mendoza, you know, the consensus top quarterback, who was most likely going to be the number one draft pick in the 2026 NFL draft is the acability after the catch, also compliments Bobby Slox system, you know, requiring that chain moving skill, you know, he's the chain mover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the high end wide receiver to very low end wide receiver one, but his body, his composition, his playstyle, how he operates in zone, which is what a 2.5, 7 yards per route run, not in that elite bracket, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you take a look at his build, it's similar to Jumar Chase.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I'm not saying his playstyle is the same as Jumar Chase, but give it another year or two in the system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could take a look at proble level production and look in the mocks Omar Cooper Jr.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's being mocked to Miami at pick number 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could ideally take him as the wide receiver in the back end of the first round and be okay with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's six foot 199 pounds, 200 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's most likely going to gain five extra pounds in the off season, come during the off season drills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: mini camp rookie mini camp as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to be a big thick boy and you can get a done in the run game to coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when you have that size, when you play for Indiana, right, I don't think that you're going to find a wide receiver that won't get after in the run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you watch the way that Omar Cooper Jr runs with the ball in his hand, like he runs angry, so it really doesn't come to the surprise that in the run game as well, that he's going to
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, our third archetype is going to be the contested outside X type of wire receivers who win with their size, contested catchability, their primarily vertical threats, and aren't as efficient in zone coverage like the other guys we mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: their yards per route run is in, you know, the 2.02.5 yards per route run range.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys have first and second-round talents, but they succeed in other ways, then Bobby Slowic system and the Shanahan system prefers it to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, the first guy on this list, and he's actually my top
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[SPEAKER_00]: phenomenal route technician, harnell tape, six, two, and three quarters, 192 pounds, 4.5, 340, 87% of the time lined up wide, 13% of the time in the slot, elite against man coverage, 90th percentile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: separation, lead the nation on five touchdowns on 40 plus yard throws ran 500 and two zone routes in his career 1,245 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see him as a much cleaner George Pickins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, currently I'll take also number one wide receiver on my board and I only think it's really
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[SPEAKER_01]: close for me that, you know, the 4.5340 can be a bit deceiving because I do think that even with that that he, you know, shows some sneaky suddenness when it comes to route running in his suddenness out of brakes, like maybe he's not going to run away from you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a 10 or a 15 yard range rate, but those quick cuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he has a little more than what you might think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you can see from the big playability that you talked about with his 40 plus yard touchdown throws, like even though that 40 is not great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you still got that long speed that once he gets up to speed, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a tough time bringing him down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another player similar to Cooper that likes to get after it in the run game as a block,
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[SPEAKER_01]: favorite things, watching him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another guy with a wide cat radius, not afraid to go over the middle, does a good job catching the ball away from his body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's almost the whole package for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he, you know, if he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: about a tenth of a second faster, maybe another inch or two taller, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we'd be talking about him as one of the elite receiving prospects that we've talked about in a few years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that you separate those things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You study really, really good receiver that fits a lot of the stuff that the dolphins will likely pursue in their receiving room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure he will be the top opposite number 11, but I think he is certainly worthy of a conversation there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would take him and number 11, especially if I meant taking him over McIlamen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, McIlamen could be the engine in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what there are other guys that have a similar skill set as McCuy Lemon does later on and if you're invested in a guy like two to add well if you're invested in a guy like Malik Washington or Todd Washington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go get carnell tape because guess what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's other guys in the later rounds that can complement carnell tape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they might not be the best precise, route runner that knows how to run and stride have the perfect tempo, the subtle head, shoulder, and body fakes, but they can be your underneath guys, they can be your jump ball guys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't necessarily have the same attention that Carnal Tate would get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could pair him up, you take Carnal Tate at number 11.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can pair him up with a guy like maybe disonstripling that we'll talk about a little bit later on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a Caleb Douglas or Casey conception later on at pick number 30 if you want to double up in a good, productive, wide receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you draft Carnal Tate, he is your wide receiver one from the moment that that card is turned in, but he is not enough to do it on his own, so you would need a circle back and find something else to go with him later in the draft as well to round out that wide receiver room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next guy is Jordan Tyson who has some injury risk, some injury concerns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a Heinz word protege.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a separator in man coverage and zone coverage as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2.39
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[SPEAKER_00]: yards for route run against zone coverage, top tier route release of against man and press, six, two, six, three, two, one, four pounds, almost a thousand yards of against zone coverage in his career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But just man, those injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got, why does he represent you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the probable upside, but do you risk taking him in round one coach?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the big, the big red fly with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when I look through my notes of Jordan Tyson, you can almost take the best of Omar Cooper Jr. in the best of carnal tape, right, a lot of the positive things I said about each of those and Jordan Tyson is a nice mix of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both of those right he has that the deep threat ability that Cardinal Tate has he has the physicality After the catch really really slippery both before and after he catches a ball good Good separation good route runner good hands right can run every route on the tree You know plays with that same intensity that Cardinal Tate does But In injury risk right and when we're talking about
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[SPEAKER_01]: the top pick, which is likely we're going to have to get any prior not going to be there at 30, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to have the conversation about taste, that's probably at pick number 11.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to come in and have that be the first pick of the new regime, I think would be a really tough conversation to have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are positions at number 11 that I think are probably more likely
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you compound that with the fact that, you know, we're talking about a player that has the the injury risk as as much upside is there is with Jordan Tyson, I would be really surprised if that was the direction that John Erick's old and Jeff Haffley go and now she's there at number 43.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it changes, you know, some things because if you take him at 11 or 30, that's a fresh rompick, you're taking a calculated bet with his salary and you're trying to go for a quick one year rebuild and trying to absorb a player who misses four games every season and it becomes a bit risky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he's there in the second round and you traded back a little bit, then it back to the question, okay, maybe this guy has some upside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might not be playing 15, 16, 17 games in a season, but in the first year where you don't necessarily expect to compete for playoffs,
35:24
[SPEAKER_00]: why not give it a shot and see if he can stay healthy and see if he picks up the system and see if he has that a lead upside when he's healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, if he falls around too and that's a totally separate conversation and that is really where when you talk about draft pick value, like that's where you should be having those conversations when a player
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[SPEAKER_01]: below his ideal draft position because of injury.
35:58
[SPEAKER_01]: At some point, you got to go back to the notes and decide when do you have to stop the fall?
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there will always be those players that turn out to be an exception that usually, if you're injured in college, you're going to continue to be injured in the NFL.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are exceptions, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're talking about a second round
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[SPEAKER_01]: the number 11 pick there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he last to the second round, I would be surprised.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there will be a team that would take a chance on him somewhere towards the back half of round one.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But if he does make it to round two, then yeah, I think that's certainly an opportunity where you say the value here even with the injury risk is still really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next guy on this list, Denzel Boston out of Washington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say it from right on early on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was pretty high on him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 6, 3, and 3, quarters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 250 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 4.5, 240.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'll say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 1.78 yards per route run in zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he is elite up against man coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 22 out of 35 contested balls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he caught in his career, almost 1,800 yards in his career, less than 1,000 yards up against his zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has that tape and a technique mill and build style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see him more so as that second third round type of guy, and you can pair him up
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[SPEAKER_00]: with another guy like Omar Cooper Jr.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you draft him in the first round, I think he's more of like near above the rim type of player, jump ball, back shoulder, but he solves only like one specific problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can adjust to those off target throws.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to, you know, those scrambled drills that Malik Washington is going to do because Boston's cash radius is so wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has the ability to do that, but he doesn't have the intermediate zone-beating skills that Bobby Slavic wants out of his, you know, primary, wide receiver one, wide receiver two guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is more so a complimentary target if he was drafted in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, agree with everything you're saying there I have around three great on Denzel Boston and I the reason that I have in there is just there's not there there's not anything Great in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going through the the nose and I have great good size good strength good speed Isn't overly shifting more of a linear player can play above the limit times right Right for catches average right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a type of player that I think will have a
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[SPEAKER_01]: place in the NFL, but I think that his ceiling is a wide receiver to little strawberries asked to do more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He does have added value as a experiences return as well, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a little bit of a boost to him there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that when we're talking about where his ceiling is like I
39:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think of a good comparison for it, you know, and not necessarily skill-wise, right, but we talk about like a Brian heart line in terms of a career path where heart line was always a good number, too, but was never really the guy that you wanted to be your number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the same vein that I see Denzel Boston, and I think he's going to have a good, long career,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's going to be better served if he's, you know, the robin to somebody else's about me.
39:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
39:46
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about another robin here, too.
39:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That's CJ Gangles out of Miami.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Had a phenomenal season last year with the cams almost won a national championship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Six, one and a half, two hundred and two pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he has the most zone routes he's ran out of anyone in this drag class, but only 2.2 yard for route run against zone coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you can argue it was more so about the amount of targets he got at his previous schools and could not necessarily produce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you played against
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[SPEAKER_00]: right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The volume was massive, but the efficiency was average.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a number one wide receiver in Bobby Slaw extreme.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: This is again, a complimentary guy that has above average a potential production, but not as efficient.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in someone that can replace a guy like jail model.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I see him more so as a depth and competition piece, not so more like you're bonnified while you're silver two or even while you're silver one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the CJ Daniels is an interesting study because of his limited production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't really feel that he has any special traits, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he makes some tough catches here and there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his size quickness after the catch all average.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have, I see, you know, not sure I see him more than a number three wide receiver, but, you know, the more that I think about CJ Daniels in the talent around him, I wonder whether, you know, you had Malachi Tony as a breakout player with the hurricane and great player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have a fabulous sophomore season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he didn't have Malachi Tony breaking out the way that he did, would CJ Daniels have received more of those targets and had more of an opportunity for production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think there could be the possibility for Daniels to be a more productive professional player than he was at the University of Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and saying, right, yep, and saying, can we get more out of him than what he did at Miami?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he's more so around the day three range fifth, six or seven and if you compliment him with a guy like a Skyler Bell or a Chris Bell or maybe even Casey conception, we'll talk about a little bit later on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a good wide receiver group for Miami year one for Malik Willis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, the next guy on this list is pretty interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just under 200 pounds runs a 4.3740 at 6.4.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, when I watched him, he's kind of smooth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's got an at least side speed combination that doesn't exist very often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2.31 yards per route run up against zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Played against SEC competition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy that can line up in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in those, you know, those motions, those play actions, those fakes, when horticax are blitzing, it can accelerate on the vertical and just be that number one option, uh, for Malik Woolis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't necessarily see
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[SPEAKER_00]: How Tennessee's offense and the skill set Brazil has directly translate into Bobby Slowing and the Shannon and type of scheme, he's not going to be the wide receiver that runs those crossers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many play action fakes are you going to run before defense is actually start catching on?
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, another complimentary guy, he's your burner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's your deepball compliment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like Malik Wall, the Willis is going to be throwing 15, 40 yard bombs every single game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I am a big fan of Chris Brazil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that the Tennessee offense does a great job of showcasing skills for wide receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that it translates well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of like we talked about even with their running game with Jalen right in the way that that kind of struggled to translate to the NFL, but Chris Brazil has almost everything that I would look for out of a wide receiver one would like to see a little more bulk out of him, but because he's more of a tall, you know, well, six foot four is to five somewhere in that range right a little under 200 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a bit of a thin frame, but didn't have great quarterback play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the result of that is that he was able to demonstrate a really wide, cat radius and really strong hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, he's got that long speed to go deep.
45:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He can go above the rim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When those contested catches, I felt like his run after catch for a guy that his was his size was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Henry, that used to play for the Cincinnati Bengals,
45:22
[SPEAKER_01]: is a player that kind of came in from me when watching Chris Brazil play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, he's not, he's not ready to step up and be that number one receiver today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is a player that could have that potential to get there eventually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we talk about what's been missing from the Dolphins offense, like this is the kind of player that we're talking about, the guy that the throat doesn't have to be perfect because he can reach out and pluck it with one hand.
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: we talk about Malik Willis and his ability to extend plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a type of guy that you know can can find.
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[SPEAKER_01]: openings.
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And even if he's not open, right, you just throw that ball nine feet in the air, right?
46:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to go up there and get it above a corner back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would be excited for a player like Brazil to be drafted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have him as a high second round prospect is where I have him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, just because of that, because he brings stuff to the dolphins or he would bring
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's been missing, you know, really since Gasec, you would probably be the last one that could go and play about the rim, but Brazil is a much better athlete, you know, in terms of a branch of the catch and stuff like that, than what Gasec he ever was.
46:40
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we got four more guys in this archetype, and we'll just speed run through them.
46:47
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to zone struggling out of Ole Miss played out Washington state and Oklahoma state then Ole Miss six to two hundred and eight pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a smooth striker.
46:58
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a little bit on the
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily have the yards for Rattland data on him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He lined up wide 81% of the time at Ole Miss 90% in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He only had one drop in 2025 and his relative athletic score was a 9.9.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people
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[SPEAKER_00]: have him as a day to type of guy, just because of his size, his speed and his blocking skills at Ole Miss.
47:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, within Lane Kiffin's offense, like he got the ball a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had really good acceleration and releases off the line of scrimmage, and he had super reliable hands for Trinidad Shamblest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily see him be a day and one starter.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: More so as a wide receiver 2, wide receiver 3.
47:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It back up to the primary X.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not the chain mover, but again, physical blocker on outside zone runs vertical threats can sometimes run those crossers, but is not that efficient.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More so as a fourth round guy, very, very early fifth round in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: did not watch.
48:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So in the interest of time, I know we have some other receivers to get through.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to lean on your analysis there and let us move on to the next one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your thoughts on Malachi shields coach.
48:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is going to be the last one that I'm going to say this about, but same thing I did not watch Malachi.
48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel as I thought that I did because I've heard a lot about him.
48:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to be the type of receiver that fits a lot of the things that we
48:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that we've talked about the dolphins wanting to do, but this is another receiver that I do not have on my list currently.
48:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I see it more so as, like, fourth round guy, you know, six, four and a half doesn't fit that intermediate water super slow it is looking for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can produce at the next level, just don't expect him to be like a T Higgins type of player or a Alec Pierce type of player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have his comp as an Alec Pierce, but I just don't see
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[SPEAKER_00]: his skillset, translating that well, especially in this offense.
49:26
[SPEAKER_00]: His size is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has average production up against, you know, big 10 and SEC competition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that type of competition is much better in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has the tools, but he needs a wide receiver coach and an offensive coordinator
49:49
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next guy on the list is Chris Bell out of Louisville.
49:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he has hurt, but I really, really do like him in this offense coach.
50:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that when I look at Chris Bell and look at the notes that I have on him, right, there's a lot of similarities to Omar Cooper Jr. there.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of that bigger thicker receiver we're talking about somebody that's almost six foot two, 220 plus, really good one after the catch.
50:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that for a guy that's his size, I think he has really good speed, fights for those extra yards, is gonna catch the ball in traffic.
50:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that if I had to kind of nitpick out, I feel like he lacks explosion out of his break sometimes,
50:40
[SPEAKER_01]: good at catching back shoulder rounds, good deep over the middle, I would like to see him play a little bit more above the rim, but I also think that he is good at finding holes in coverage and that's something that we've talked about with these receivers.
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, similar to Omar Cooper Jr.
50:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that Omar Cooper Jr. can be a number one receiver Chris Bell on more like, you know, not sure if he's a number one, but I think he can be a high end cuby friendly number two.
51:10
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're going to move on to the very last archetype, which is the slot and the yak chain movers.
51:18
[SPEAKER_00]: These are guys data wise who have just under a two yards per run in zone coverage.
51:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
51:28
[SPEAKER_00]: The explanation is more so there in the film just based on the type of routes they run, the competition as well.
51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: The first guy is Casey Conception, and I really like him for Miami at Nick number 30.
51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He's explosive.
51:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He's what, almost 5-11, barely 6-foot under 200 pounds.
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't necessarily have his 40 time, but I do have his alignment 70% of the time in this lot, 30% lined out wide.
52:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He isn't explosive, if it's separated, I'll let me tell you that coach, he is explosive.
52:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He won the Paul Hormung Award at Texas A&M.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think he would be Miami's top wide receiver in the late first round.
52:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, that yards for right run is a little bit.
52:21
[SPEAKER_00]: confusing because he lines up in the zone constantly, but you got to watch Texas A&M's quarterback play coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where the disconnect between the data and the film is.
52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he transitions from a pass capture to a runner really, really quickly.
52:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got
52:47
[SPEAKER_00]: The drops is not necessarily translatable into the NFL and again, got to take a look who is quarterback was a tech to say in them.
52:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really that good, but he is a high ceiling slot option who fits and Bobby slow-excamed those crossers, those play actions, those motions that turn into tunnel screens and
53:13
[SPEAKER_00]: the Willis, the Malik Willis, Devonation, Casey conception, you know, offensive package really oozes aura into Miami's offense and for Bobby Slavic.
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a phenomenal pairing for Miami.
53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the Casey conception does a lot of really good things.
53:40
[SPEAKER_01]: The one
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably the biggest concern that I have with him with the way that Jeff Halfley has talked about from an overall perspective is that he's not as physical as some of these other wider severs in the run game, but you kind of have to weigh that right.
53:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can if you can live with that, like you said, dude is a playmaker like he is
54:04
[SPEAKER_01]: always open.
54:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of, it's almost weird, like, you know, speeding quickness for days.
54:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have him, I know, he can disappear at times, which is a concern, but based on watching how open he was, it makes me wonder whether that Texas A&M quarterback situation had a lot to do with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's an elite punt returner from day one, and a danger for Steve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I recently watched a video of where
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was being used in the backfield as well, despite his, you know, smaller frame, he can still do that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that he'll ever be a, you know, my type of number one receiver, but he is also probably the best playmaker in the entire draft and he's got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a wide catch radius, which you have to make use of their Texas A&M, and even though he's not going to be the best contested catch guy, he does have the ability to go up and, you know, high point the ball at times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, for me, I think he's got a lot of traits of what I would typically put in a round two grade, but when you look at the game-breaking ability has and the special teams of value, this is still a round one guy for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, next guy on the list is Antonio Williams out of Clemson, uh, here and through slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why does he were 65% of the time at Clemson?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was at it in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 18 to 90% of the time he was lied out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost 2,500 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in Zone coverage in his career at Clemson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has the production there in a Power 4 program.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Line up all over the field, I will say, especially when it came to the motions as the X as the Z in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's able to find soft spots and coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at finding them, but he's not a lead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's incredibly light-footed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's quick in and out of his breaks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was more so the underneath guy, the chain mover rather than the big play guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Kade Klobnik could not find him, and as you said, like Kasey conception was sometimes lost at Texanum because he was open and the quarterback situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kade Klobnik at times could not see the field and could not find Antonio Williams open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes in that scramble drill, he would run into the player or get away from that soft spot so that way Klobnik could see him in his line of sight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the Antonio Williams, the kind of comparison that I have is kind of your your West Walker type.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little better top speed than what West Walker ever had, but the kind of player that can kind of operate over the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you navigate traffic pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Something you were kind of talking about there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But not the greatest after the catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I feel like he's more of a, you know, find the soft spot in the zone, get in the ball, let him fall down, be that chain mover that you talked about there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think if you pair Antonio Williams wool with a guy like, um, you know, Malachi fields or a car and I'll take, you know, I think that's a good one, two pair and right there in the wide receiver room as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next guy is Skylar Bell out of University of Connecticut,
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2.34 yards per route run in zone, 39% of the time in the slot, 50, 60% of the time as the extra silver, 5, 11 and a half, he transferred from Wisconsin, super smooth out of his brakes and those in and out routes, he's got almost 1800 yards up against zone coverage,
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[SPEAKER_00]: because I do think he needs a little bit more time to develop, especially playing at Wisconsin, who was pretty, what an Ivy and at UCON.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bell is an interesting study for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there was multiple times that he made things more difficult than what they needed to be and that would contribute to that efficiency issue that you talked about, like in one of the notes that I have, maybe tries to catch the ball with one hand more often than what he needs to, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: work that out of him that you might have more of the upside there for now that the final note that I have on him in my notes is that, you know, reminds me of a guy that's better suited as a number three, but the teams will keep trying to push up into a number two rule and, you know, it's just up to him whether or not he's ready to make that move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, last guy, finally, number 16, number 17, just on this list, based off the archetypes, during me, Bernard out of Alabama is a very, very nuanced route runner, can separate six foot and a half really good up against man, can separate average against zone with a 2.12
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his career, he's got 13 touchdowns, 15 hundred yards up again, zone coverage, 22 hundred yards can line up as the X, the Z, the slot in the motions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can line up in the back, they'll too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got a
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[SPEAKER_00]: the cleanest production of any of these guys in this very last archetype we've talked about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's competitive at the catch point, his rack ability gives him a path to have that upside, you know, in the second round maybe early, early, third.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is a reliable chain mover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can get you those first down similar to a Jarvis Landry Omar Cooper, but Jeremy Bernard is a little bit more thinner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not as stocky and bulky as Omar Cooper Juniors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that when you talk about, you know, what Omar Cooper Juniors does and then we talked about Antonio Williams, I think Jeremy Bernard is kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: somewhere in the middle there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he does a lot of the same things that was as what Antonio Williams does, but has a little better size, but not quite up there with the Omar Cooper Jr. A lot of
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of good, not great stuff with Jordan Bernard, we've talked about that with some of these receivers, right, he has good size, you know, that six foot and a half to a six, he's got strong hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not easy to take down, but he's also not just a Mackay lemon, run after catch, demon, tight player, decent separation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like Antonio Williams, he's in the good not great in a lot of things, but where I kind of have Jeremy Bernard, a little bit ahead of Antonio Williams, is just the, is many different ways as what Alabama used him, right, hand-offs direct snaps, I mean double passes, right, does a little bit of everything, so just his versatility adds value for Jeremy Bernard in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's got 51% of the time he was in the slot, just under 48% of the time he was lined out white.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has that versatility everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coach, we talked about a lot of wider receivers on this list for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of them could be in consideration for mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: within the first uh... underpicked so we'll see who they pick and how many of these letters he was the pick in the twenty six and a fell draft where what twenty three days away from john niric Sullivan and jf halfly's very first and a full draft together as head coach and general manager
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