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PGA DFS | St. Jude Championship | 8/05/25 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear the lift.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of the PGA Show. We got
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  Speaker 2: the PGA into the playoffs. Now we're rounding up the season.
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  Speaker 2: Special guest here with me, my man, Alex Blickel from
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  Speaker 2: FTN got his own thing going on now a little
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  Speaker 2: bit on the side too. We'll talk about what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: Bring Alex in here in a second. But before we do, Alex,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what day today is? It is August fifth,
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  Speaker 2: and somebody said it said, this is like Christmas Eve,
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  Speaker 2: It's like ship missive. So you guys know the teasers
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  Speaker 2: today we'll have you cover. But Alex, always good to
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  Speaker 2: be back with you, man. People always love the shows
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  Speaker 2: more breaking them down. I love the aspect that you've
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  Speaker 2: actually played golf before at a high level, like just
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  Speaker 2: even recently you're in some stuff trying to get after
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  Speaker 2: a US Open and whatnot, but you're always busy in
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  Speaker 2: the golf streets, in the DFS streets. What's going on,
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  Speaker 2: my man? How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing really well. Can't wait to do the
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  Speaker 3: show with you again. It's been a while, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, I always enjoy doing stuff with you.
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  Speaker 3: And got the Pennsylvania Open coming up in a week,
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  Speaker 3: so right back at the golf streets as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I love that, Like I always tell the story.
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  Speaker 2: But it was at the first ever, the inaugural the
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  Speaker 2: DFS Open, and you were in the playoff. Man, it
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  Speaker 2: was crazy. It was me and my boy Kenny Kim.
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  Speaker 2: We rolled out. We said, what, you guys aren't going
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  Speaker 2: to watch this. I know it's just a meeting event here,
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  Speaker 2: but I said, we got to go see this. So
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  Speaker 2: we rolled up on the cart, checked it all out.
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  Speaker 2: You were a little bit off, wild off the tee.
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  Speaker 2: On the last hole, you managed to recover well and
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  Speaker 2: gave yourself a shop. But then I think Buddy just
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  Speaker 2: drained the putt. It was like a twelve quarter or something,
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  Speaker 2: and you needed a lot longer than that to recover
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  Speaker 2: versus him, and it didn't quite happen. But you made
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  Speaker 2: a run at it and it was a close call.
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  Speaker 2: But very good golfer in your own right. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. Let's uh, let's talk a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about this. It is the FedEx Saint Jude Championship. Sixty
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  Speaker 2: nine golfers nice, No, no, Rory. So we'll talk about that,
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  Speaker 2: but I guess that's the first segue and the talk
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  Speaker 2: of the town right now. So we'll just rift back
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  Speaker 2: and forth a little bit on this. But we talked
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  Speaker 2: a bit pre show just about this playoff situation and
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  Speaker 2: get your two cents on. I know you've got some ideas.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked about it forever. Obviously, the current format is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely horrible, but you know, they can never seem to
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  Speaker 2: change it in a way that ends up working out
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  Speaker 2: for them. And I do think one thing we talked
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  Speaker 2: about pre show for sure is true is they still
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  Speaker 2: spend way too much time talking about the money, which
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  Speaker 2: nobody gives a shit. We know these golfers are rich,
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  Speaker 2: we don't. That's not what we're watching for is to
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  Speaker 2: see how much money. We had the Phil Vers Tiger match.
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  Speaker 2: Remember nine million of fake money, like it's real money,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like they've neither of them. Nine million doesn't
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  Speaker 2: move the needle. It's like ninety bucks. For Phil, it's
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  Speaker 2: like nine million because he needs it, but for Tiger
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  Speaker 2: it was like nine dollars. And yeah, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, nobody cared about that kind of money.
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  Speaker 2: That it was just to get a match on the go.
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  Speaker 2: So what's your thoughts on this playoff format, because we've
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  Speaker 2: seen some interesting ones come out lately. I know we
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  Speaker 2: talked about a pre show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing that I
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  Speaker 3: agree with is that we don't care about the money,
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  Speaker 3: and so the tour needs to let go of the
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  Speaker 3: idea that we're ever going to care about the Mexica
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  Speaker 3: Playoffs the way we care about major champions and stuff. Right,
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  Speaker 3: playoffs are about prestige. That's why we care about them
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  Speaker 3: in other sports, and so they need to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of that thought and then move into Okay, well what
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  Speaker 3: still matters at that time of year, And to me,
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  Speaker 3: the big answer is who has status the next year,
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  Speaker 3: who is in the signature events the next year. So
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  Speaker 3: I think they should transition the playoffs to be more
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  Speaker 3: about those players. And so like right now we've cut
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  Speaker 3: down to seventy already and a lot of guys are
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  Speaker 3: now going to be competing for tour guards throughout the fall.
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  Speaker 3: You can have a lot of that drama right here
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  Speaker 3: in these few weeks. So that's the number one thing
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  Speaker 3: I do. And then of course there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: drama as well. That could go into just who's qualifying
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  Speaker 3: for signature events, and so I would basically have two
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  Speaker 3: simultaneous match play finals going on in the last week,
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  Speaker 3: and everything before that is just figuring out who's in
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  Speaker 3: which bracket, where one bracket is competing for the FedEx
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  Speaker 3: Cup Championship in the winner's bracket, and everyone else is
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  Speaker 3: competing for some level of status. For every single round
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  Speaker 3: in the match play unlocks new levels of exemptions, new
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  Speaker 3: levels of status, things like that. I think that'd be
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  Speaker 3: really compelling viewing going down the stretch, and you'd have
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  Speaker 3: multiple matches going on in the finals, so it's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit better for TV as well. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I've always said, and this is like I've
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  Speaker 2: put a big post out of a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: ago about this. It's just like the PGA Tour is
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  Speaker 2: so bad at content. I mean everyone will say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I just saw today the ratings are up huge, must
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  Speaker 2: be amazing, then sure, but people always confuse that too,
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  Speaker 2: like a business can be doing really well but could
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  Speaker 2: be doing a whole lot better. The PGA Tours ratings
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  Speaker 2: are upright now, that's phenomenal and good stuff for all
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  Speaker 2: of us. But it could be a whole lot more
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  Speaker 2: like it's all what it comes down to on certain things.
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  Speaker 2: And bottom line, just ask you know, one hundred people
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  Speaker 2: around you, ninety of them don't even know what the
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  Speaker 2: FedEx Cup playoffs are or mean, and the ten that
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  Speaker 2: do know don't care about them. To Alex's point of
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  Speaker 2: what he just said, and that's what it comes down to,
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  Speaker 2: they need to do a better job. Everyone said, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Scotty is boring, fine, but he's the best in the world,
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  Speaker 2: and it's totally different. They're trying to compare them to
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  Speaker 2: the Tiger Woods, who transcended the sport and the game
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  Speaker 2: and everything with it with ratings and more people watching it,
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  Speaker 2: getting in the gym, getting in shape, building all these
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  Speaker 2: Scotty shufflers up that are now able to hit these
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  Speaker 2: types of shots and just flush it completely and go
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  Speaker 2: out and crush. But they need to do a better
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  Speaker 2: job of building up their their creator. If you think
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  Speaker 2: of like creator content, it's like build up your people.
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  Speaker 2: Your creators are the golfers, like build them up. Tell
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  Speaker 2: us the story. We don't know who half these guys are,
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  Speaker 2: and when we do hear the story, it's usually off
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  Speaker 2: but over quickly or like the commentator gets fed a
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  Speaker 2: couple of notes. Use this to tell these of these
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  Speaker 2: players anything they can do like that, And then to
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  Speaker 2: Andrews point, Yeah, at least they got rid of the
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  Speaker 2: starting strokes. It's like they had to try to do something,
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  Speaker 2: but that was definitely not it. So hear you on
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  Speaker 2: that shut out the BG littlenecks as Saint Jude Jim
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  Speaker 2: and preseason NFL. What do you got going on right
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  Speaker 2: now in the NFL streets? Getting fired up for that
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  Speaker 2: to come back? I know NFL it's around the corner.
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  Speaker 2: So before we hop into breaking this down, give me
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on the NFL coming back and what you
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  Speaker 2: got going on there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's so exciting this time of year,
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  Speaker 3: both taking a look at Week one for the DFS streets,
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  Speaker 3: but then also love best fall. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: don't do a whole lot of fantasy football, so when
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  Speaker 3: I actually have fantasy football drafts, like with friends with family,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. Man, I'm gonna pull some stuff
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  Speaker 2: up to while I'm just grabbing this quickly. Maybe talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about how you see this event playing
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  Speaker 2: out with you know this the course, what you know
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  Speaker 2: about it, you know where it's at, It's played the
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  Speaker 2: same place. I've got to be here before. I know
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  Speaker 2: Mayo is there this week. There is no Mayo show
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  Speaker 2: with me this week. I won't be on it with him.
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  Speaker 2: So he's down in Memphis. I know that should be
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  Speaker 2: a good time. I've been there, got to be there
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  Speaker 2: the year Willie Z got the job done. That was
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  Speaker 2: incredible going into that playoff. If I remember running around
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  Speaker 2: from hole to hole to get that thing out of
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  Speaker 2: the way and him having the ball just sit up
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  Speaker 2: on the lip of the rock on that little island
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  Speaker 2: and figure it out and go back to the drop
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  Speaker 2: zone and then still figure it out. So tell me
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  Speaker 2: what you know, and tell the people what you know
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  Speaker 2: about this course and just what your overall thoughts are
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  Speaker 2: on the start things off here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately I do not like this golf course. It's
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  Speaker 3: always more fun to talk about a great golf course
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  Speaker 3: at one that I think is just like really well designed.
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  Speaker 3: This is not bad and it shows up in the
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  Speaker 3: course of vent model where every single aspect of golf
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  Speaker 3: driving distance, driving accuracy, and that's using our proprietary strokes
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  Speaker 3: gain driving accuracy metric that we have at FTN, approach,
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  Speaker 3: play and putting are all less predictive here than usual.
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  Speaker 3: Around the green place pretty much right on where it
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  Speaker 3: usually is. And this is not what you expect to
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  Speaker 3: find on a golf course with as much water as this.
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  Speaker 3: When you think of the other like water heavy courses
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  Speaker 3: PJ National, TBC, Sawgrass, the three them open, we get
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  Speaker 3: typically a really high signal on our stroke skin driving
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  Speaker 3: accuracy because course management it becomes a big part of that.
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  Speaker 3: And then you also see the same on around the
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  Speaker 3: green play because again around the green play is a
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  Speaker 3: lot about course management, missing in the right spot, making
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  Speaker 3: sure you're not missing in water, but you're missing with
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  Speaker 3: green to work with easy opportunities for up and downs,
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  Speaker 3: safe off of the team. That's where we get that
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  Speaker 3: strops cane driving accuracy signal. A lot of the time
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  Speaker 3: we just don't get that here. And I think a
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  Speaker 3: big reason for that is most of the time, avoiding
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  Speaker 3: water is about skill, it's about managing your misses, and
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  Speaker 3: here I think it's a little bit more about luck.
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  Speaker 3: And that is just I think a sign of a
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  Speaker 3: not very well designed golfers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree, and you know you know more
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  Speaker 2: about that angle of it than I do. But when
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about applying that to DFS, I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: a quick example. I mean, I just did this a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when I talked about it at
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  Speaker 2: what was the event three? I'm open is the best
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  Speaker 2: one for this, Like, it's hilarious. It's the week after
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  Speaker 2: a major, so I'm just from what we always do
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  Speaker 2: on the show's DFS perspective. The week after a major,
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  Speaker 2: people are already laser lazy or have the hangover. Then
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  Speaker 2: you've got everybody thinking they know, like, oh, I'll just
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  Speaker 2: trust these guys, but the same people are speaking on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of their mouths in but this course
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  Speaker 2: high variance, lots of water. It's like, then, why are
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  Speaker 2: you just jamming every dude like you know exactly who
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be, Like, you can just play into that.
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  Speaker 2: It was a complete massacre. I think it was like
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  Speaker 2: a three or four percent sixty sixth rate. So with
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  Speaker 2: what you just said, everything you talked about, what's the
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  Speaker 2: best way or how are you going about applying that
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  Speaker 2: from a DFS perspective with a shortened field, everything that's
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  Speaker 2: on the line, even if it's not the best format
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  Speaker 2: right now, but all that consideration, sixty nine golfers thirteen
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  Speaker 2: case Scottie, you know a bunch of options in the
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  Speaker 2: six k's that are pretty good golfers on paper at least,
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  Speaker 2: including the very disrespected sixty eight hundred dollars sung JM,
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  Speaker 2: who actually played much better last week and is still
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  Speaker 2: in the top thirty I believe for the FedEx Cup playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, give me your thoughts on all of that
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  Speaker 2: and more. What do you got? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, what it does is it gives us
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  Speaker 3: license to be even more contrariant than usual because it's
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  Speaker 3: bringing the projections of the best players down towards the
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  Speaker 3: projections the worst players. And we already would have a
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  Speaker 3: smaller gap than usual because this is such a strong field,
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  Speaker 3: and now of the course is like also doing that.
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  Speaker 3: So the difference between Scotty Scotty's projection and the worst
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  Speaker 3: players projecting in this field is like a stroke and
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  Speaker 3: a half smaller, maybe even more than that than what
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  Speaker 3: we typically see when Scotty's in the field. So again,
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  Speaker 3: it just brings everyone together. I think it becomes really
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  Speaker 3: pronounced in the outright market where now, like the sweet
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  Speaker 3: spot to me is that let's say forty to one
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  Speaker 3: hundred to one range, like those guys have a much
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  Speaker 3: better chance of winning this week than they usually do
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  Speaker 3: and that's not priced into the market fully, But on
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  Speaker 3: the DFS side, like I said, it just gives us
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  Speaker 3: license to be even more contrarian than usual. And this
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  Speaker 3: is another spot where just like the three and Open,
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  Speaker 3: it's not just this year that we saw a low
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  Speaker 3: six or six for the three and Open, like that's
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  Speaker 3: always been the case. And yeah, we don't have cuts here,
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  Speaker 3: so it's not like we're going to see that, but
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  Speaker 3: it just means more of the chalk is going to
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  Speaker 3: end up fortieth fiftieth than than what we typically see.
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  Speaker 3: So licenses being working training, which is fun, like that's
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  Speaker 3: the right side of this courseman model and just this
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  Speaker 3: event as a whole. But the downside is it's just
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  Speaker 3: not they could have a golf course and it's not
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  Speaker 3: a very fun viewing golf course either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all gonna depend and then it all depends
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  Speaker 2: on how it shakes out, because I think people a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people will still go with the same guys
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  Speaker 2: that you see. And when we get to the tiers
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  Speaker 2: and going through it, I mean you're gonna see Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Raye is eighty three hundred. You know, Scotty very affordable
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  Speaker 2: and easy to fit. So that's gonna lead to more
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  Speaker 2: Scotty at the top, Guys like Xander jt hen like
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  Speaker 2: Henley at ten ten k, even the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: put him, I would say best by pricing when they're
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  Speaker 2: ninety Tommy Fleetwood is best by pricing. He's ninety nine hundred,
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  Speaker 2: just below ten k. Your TV's nine to ninety nine,
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  Speaker 2: not one thousand. Russell Henley just stands out like a
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  Speaker 2: sore thumb to people of like, oh, how could you
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  Speaker 2: play that guy at ten k when Scotty's three k more?
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  Speaker 2: And the difference between Hedeki at eighty eight and then
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  Speaker 2: you go down to the bottom, it's like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you can pick up two grand quickly, if not, you know,
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  Speaker 2: three grand across the board, So that Scotty situation will
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  Speaker 2: be the biggest one that's talked about. But it's easy
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  Speaker 2: to build Scotty and we'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: Note says, just when you thought I was done, he
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  Speaker 2: pulls you right back in. Certainly think about that. Is
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  Speaker 2: there any other no cut event tips that you have?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about being able to be more
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  Speaker 2: contraying because of the other factors. I think one thing
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  Speaker 2: about not every no cut event to me, I'll let
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  Speaker 2: y'all go first and let you take over. Is not
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  Speaker 2: every no cut event is the same. And what I
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  Speaker 2: mean by that is beyond the obvious. It's true is
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  Speaker 2: that this is also a playoff event where you do
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  Speaker 2: know all of those golfers in the six k range
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  Speaker 2: and below, and sometimes it no cuts. That's not the
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  Speaker 2: case here. You can make a case for all of
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  Speaker 2: those guys down below. So I mean, not only can
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  Speaker 2: you get more contrarian, but to your point, to your
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  Speaker 2: point before, but you can also get a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more aggressive because there is enough of a pool down
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  Speaker 2: low of those guys that, like you said, the projection
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  Speaker 2: lines up the fact that this is the type of
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  Speaker 2: course you're saying, like your point of forty to one
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  Speaker 2: to one hundred to one odds sweet spot. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of those golfers are priced in the seven k or
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  Speaker 2: low or high low seven high six is range. You
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  Speaker 2: could still get to a bunch of those guys and
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  Speaker 2: build a little bit differently for this type of what's
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on no cut events and how you handle them?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the only other thing I've add I
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  Speaker 3: agree with all that. The only other thing I'll add
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  Speaker 3: there is you can focus a little bit more too
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  Speaker 3: on guys who just make a ton of birdies. And
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those guys are the guys who can
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  Speaker 3: make a triple at any point in time, Cam Young,
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  Speaker 3: Jake Knapp, Wyndam Clark, guys like that. But you don't
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  Speaker 3: really care about that triple this week because if it happens,
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  Speaker 3: like yeah, it's gonna hurt his eventual you know, finishing
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  Speaker 3: position bonuses. But you don't have the miscuttory about when
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  Speaker 3: that happens, and they're going to make up for it
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  Speaker 3: by making some birdies in the meantime.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And people always write guys off the minute they
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  Speaker 2: start out like two over or three over, like oh
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  Speaker 2: knew he was a bad play this week. Remember they
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  Speaker 2: don't always bounce back, but if they do, there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a lot more scoring to go with it, because
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  Speaker 2: to get back to the good eventual finish, there had
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  Speaker 2: to be a lot of scoring to make that happen.
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  Speaker 2: I think about Xander that year at the Memorial. He
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: shot eight over in round one and everyone wrote him off.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: He came back and finished like twenty first place and
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: it didn't fully pay off. But to people that through
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: their lineups in the garbage on day one without actually
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: doing so, because you can't, everyone would like to you
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: on the app sometimes get rid of them. Man, what
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: it would be like the cash showed button of all time?
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: Like can you imagine people that wrote those off and
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: then all of the scoring that went into Xander coming back.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people that would just
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: pay to get it off the screen and draftings could
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: just eliminate them from the pool or whatever. But that's
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: a couple thoughts. At least Scooter called it that was
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: the year Willie Z and that was at like the
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: the hole was sep On I think when they were
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: I think they were side by side at that point,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: but that was like either the first playoff hole or
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: the last hole of the tournament where it was like
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: just to just to prove that he can get into
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: a playoff or prove that he can make it in
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: a playoff. That wasn't the actual finale of the tournament.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: He was so fired up kicking things off that it
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: was just like, no chance he was going to lose
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: after that in my mind. Mind you, it did look
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: like a couple of different shots after that. I was like, Oh,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: he's definitely losing now. That was so bad When it
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: was up against the rocks and I thought he was
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: gonna hit it, I was like, that is not going
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: to end well, you know it's tucked against it, it's
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: just going to fall back into the water. And then
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: the guy that did the like the broadcast type deal
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: where the next day came back and did the shot
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: just to see what would have happened, like show it off.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: It went immediately back into the water. So definitely think
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: that's a good call.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: He would have had to try that shot if Seth
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: hadn't hit it into the water right after. Yes, would
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: have been really interesting to see because, like you said,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think that would have been.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Possible that that's the tricky part, but that that's why
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: these playoffs are so fun, and that that's the one
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: thing about this event. If it gets into a playoff,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I know that year I had a ton of fun.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just the Willie z outright, it was the
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: course doesn't really again to me at least, especially as
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter as much alex as when you get
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: to a spot like once you're in that playoff and
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: you got everything riding on the line, even if you
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: didn't have the outright, so the bet or whatever it
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: might be, it's fine once it's in a playoff because
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: of the drama. To your point earlier, on the playoffs,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: you don't worry about what the Stanley Cup final bonuses
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: are for a hockey player. You don't worry about what
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: the bonus is for an NFL team when they make
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: it to the super Bowl. All you give is shit
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: about is who wins the super Bowl, your fandom, different
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: things that go into it, All these other factors, bets, gambling,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: whatever it might be. There's so many other angles, and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: none of it revolves around how much money someone is
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: about to make the following contract season or how much
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: money they get just because they made it with their
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: bonus and stuff like that. The incentives only come to
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: play in week seventeen and eighteen when everyone thinks those matters.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: So that's all I got to say about that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of the of playoffs, like if you had
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: this design where the top let's say thirty two ended
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: up in a match play bracket for the final and
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: the next sixty four run a match play bracket just
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: for status and stuff like, imagine the drama the second
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: playoff week where it ends up with a five for
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: one to see who gets into that championship bracket they
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: lock in their status and their exemption to signature events,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: things like that. That'd be awesome to watch, But we
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: don't get any of that with the current format. So
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: it's just a huge missed opportunity of the way they
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: have the playoffs set up right now.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was definitely, you know, one of the biggest
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: factors I said, do you pre show too? Like that
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: is part of like the some of the ideas that
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: got thrown out there this week where the points don't matter,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: just like so and so move on. If you're not
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: good enough to get in the top fifty of the
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: top seventy probably shouldn't be moving on anyway. Yes, they
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: could lose sponsors and the tournament could lose Scotti Scheffler
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: if he's some out a bad week, but he comes
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: top ten percent ninety one percent of the time, if
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: he doesn't pull the trigger, that's kind of like a
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: team failing in the first round or maybe these still
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: involved by weeks the top ten are protected no matter what,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: just in case until week two. But even then week
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: two you got to pull the trigger, you got to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: come through. And you know, I know it's not even
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: close to the same because there's no sponsors or people
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: that care, all these different factors. But in like the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: PGA Live Final, we just had, like there's three rounds.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: The tons of the top players. A Fanta Sin, one
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of the best in the world, had fifteen entries going
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: into the championship. He ended up getting two through to
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: round two and zero into the final. It's unfortunate, but
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: it's the way it goes sometimes him. In previous year
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: it was I think it was Vasa, someone had fifteen
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and got all them through and then the next year
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: he got none of them through or something like just
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: playing the same type of let there's a lot of
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: strategy to it. There's a lot that goes into it,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: so I guess that's kind of the play. But hey,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't talk to you about this pre show. I
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: will talk to you about a post show because it
• 18:07
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• 18:10
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• 18:12
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• 18:15
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• 18:17
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• 18:30
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• 18:33
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• 18:36
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• 18:38
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• 18:54
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• 19:00
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  Speaker 2: with my man Alex and Alex let's get into this
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: first tier here, Like I said earlier with ten Kin above,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: we've got Henley up to Scheffler and Henley I think
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: just stand. I mean, I guess people probably don't want
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to play Zander or JT either, But what are your
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this upper level and how high with ownership
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: do you think we see Scotty get this week? It's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: very easy to get him into these lineups, for sure.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: It's so easy to get him in lineups. I think
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: we probably see thirty five ish percent in mmy and
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't surprise me to see forty in single entries.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't it surprise me to see fifty in single entries? Honestly,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: just because of how easy it is to get him.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, like you can kind of call it a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: price decrease from where we've seen him in majors, but
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: we don't have the five thousand dollars price range, so
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like the same price. Except to your point,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: all of the bottom guys are like actual good culpers now.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: So like if you're playing you know, Van Royan or
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Schmid or Hughes pot Geter, like you're still playing somebody
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: that you have some kind of expectation for that they're
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: going to play well and they can't miss the cut,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: so it's just it's so easy to get Scotty this week.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I do, however, think that Shopley will also get some ownership.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I think the guys who are going to fall through
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: the cracks are JT like you said, and I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Henley could end up really low owned because I think
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: most people kind of view Henley Tommy Fitzpatrick as kind
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: of the same player, and Fitzpatrick is the hot commodity
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: of the three right now. He's played more recently, he's
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: playing really well, so I think he's going to soak
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: up some ownership that Henley deserves. And like the point
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: that you always make about pricing, it really does matter
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: psychologically clicking somebody with a nine for their name instead
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: of a ten, it really does affect where people are clicking.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So I think Henley could really sluff at the cracks
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: in single lectries, which would make me very very interesting.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Now I don't have it upgrade in front of me
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: of the events that Henley played and had these results,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: but obviously just looking like the tenth, the fifth, the second,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the tenth, they are very similar results to Fitzpatrick's eight, four,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: fourth and eight, like they're almost the same, but there's
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: a three hundred dollars price gap there. The projections early
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: like Matt Fitzpatrick better, he's got history here, that's a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: little bit better. But Henley still had a sixth he
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: or two years ago. So, like, I mean, it is
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: interesting when you see that the psychological thing is for
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: sure a real thing. I think people sometimes forget that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: And if it ends up being a Fitzpatrick's just way
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: higher owned. I always like paying up for probability, even
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: if and in the fact that even if it is
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: only three hundred dollars, well, there could be a massive
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: ownership discount. And they're not that different. It's not like
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Henley plays all the scrub events or something like that.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: He's still playing in these top tier events. So to me,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. I always have this like fear in the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: back of my mind though that so it's a good example.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Cam Young last week we didn't spend time, we don't
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: do recaps on this show, but I just say, like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously he gets the win. It's his first win,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and it's a runaway. It's like Michael Kim, it was
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the Michael Kim two point zero at the John Deere
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: that year. It's like, we always knew this guy had
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: this in his bag. Where was it? Well, there's just
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: one tournament he gets hot and turns off with Cam Young,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it was kind of the opposite. He turned it on
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: a bunch. He just never closed the door. And you
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and I last time, I don't have to rehash it,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but had a really good conversation around closers and people's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: perception of them and all this. That and the other
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Scott He's considered the ultimate closer because he always gets
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the job done after the fifty four hole lead. Certainly
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: is something to that, but it also just if you're
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: one of the best at what you do and your
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: strokes gained are like that, you're the math is mathing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It's it's going in your favorite as well as long
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: as your mentals can stay in check with your math,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and he obviously does a really good job of that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: But the interesting part here is I could just see
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: where when Fleetwood wins, it is gonna be like the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Willisy coming out party of something like that, Like you
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: could see it happen here, and I know we're already
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: skipping into the nine K range. But the obvious up
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: top is you could play Scheffler in pretty much any lineup.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter that there's not a five K because it's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that the fact that there's sixty nine golfers and a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: bunch of them in the sixth k real dudes or
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: low sevens. But what's your thoughts on the nine K range?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Because you hit on Fitzpatrick, I compared him to Henley
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Fleetwood squeezed right in between. So I'm curious your thoughts
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: on Fleetwood and then other guys within this range. A
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: lot of talk by the way around Patrick Cantley right now,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: people just trying to throw them off the Ryder Cup team.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you have thoughts there, but I'm just
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: curious your thoughts on this nine K range and some
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of the add ons.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I'll save Ryder Cup discussion for if we have some
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: time at the end, because I think the first to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: make about Fitzpatrick and Henley is Henley has played once
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: since the Travelers. It was at the Open Championship, So
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: in that same time span, Fitzpatrick has three additional top
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: tens at the Rocket, at the Scottish and at the
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: windhom In addition to his TEA four at the Open Championship.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: So that's why I think Fitzpatrick is going to soak
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: up a lot of that ownerships because we haven't seen
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Henley as much. But Henley is obviously in spectacular form
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: as well. I don't see a ton of ownership throughout
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the rest of the nine k's Oberg has been like
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: just not the same golfer this year. He's shown some flashes,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: but really just hasn't been the same guy as he
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: was a year ago. And I think people are still
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: treating him, at least like in the outright market as
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the guy we think he can be and not the
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: guy that he currently is. So I just haven't had
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: a ton of interest there. But then Pablin was somebody
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: who was very popular the last time he teed it up.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he'll be as popular now. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: then Man, the column or Cow discussion and it can't
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: discussion for the Ryder Cup is so incredibly interesting. I
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: think more Cow is the one that like leaves me
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: with an even more sapot taste in my mouth just
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: from what he's been doing, because I can't stand everything
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: he's done off the course. The caddy switches the like
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: significant and consistent, like just awful, awful media comments, just
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: like ruining his image. That doesn't scream a confident golfer
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to me, and we know how much golf is dependent
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: on just confidence in your mental state and more cow
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: seems like somebody who's struggling more than just on the
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: course in a way that I don't think he's going
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: to figure it out quickly. I hope for his sake
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: and for the American, for the Americans, for the American
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Ryder Cup teams sake, that he does figure it out,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: because I think the team is much better with a strong,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: more Cowa than without him. But right now it's just
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: been ugly.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going through it for sure, and it's been
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, Hoop, you're you're filling it for our guy.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Hoops today a big shoes to fill. But he always
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: says this about this guy. He's been saying it all
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: season and correct, I mean once he got the one
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: eighth recently, but it's been like he's never been needed.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And someone from our community took it back and was like,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: it's actually like five months or four months, like he
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: just never been Based on price the board, DFS Betting
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: like he's never needed. There's there's nothing that's been required
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: about him. He continues to get thrown in here at
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: this price tag, and I think from the Ryder Cup perspective,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of good commentary around it, but I
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: think the clear path is that the Can't la Zander
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: thing is real. So it's like, at the end of
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the day, they're still gonna want to have that if
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: they're bringing guys like jt on, Like, if you go
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: back and look at Can't Lays year as a whole,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: he's still done better than most. It's not like he's
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: had a horrible year. It's just not up to power
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: for what you'd want in majors. It's not a yet
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: when everyone's gonna come at me for. But my point
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: is it's nothing like the more a Cow situation, which
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: is a lot of other off course stuff going on
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: on top of the encourse stuff, and honestly, on the course,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: can't they still had them covered. So I think that's
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: kind of the key focus for me when it comes
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to that. I also wonder how Keegan's gonna handle it
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: now with guys late in the ear popping up, because
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: before Keegan actually was in the conversation for a playing captain. Now,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I think he's I don't know, it's too much other
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: stuff going on. Unless he does something special, it's gonna
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: have to be like I feel like he's gonna have
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to just leave that alone and just coach the team
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: now and go at it that way and say that
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: he got the job done there because there's just too
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: much other storylines and what not going on. But you
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: gotta feel that it's gonna be interesting. I think it's
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: gonna be a great Ryder Cup. I'm excited for that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: when it comes around. So Hoblin, I was gonna say
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: one note on just a mention, but I believe he's
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: getting bet heavily this week. Like I know the number
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: was up there. I think people were getting it at
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: thirty three, So I get that. But to your point
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: of a few different things last time out, he was
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: definitely clicked a bunch. He's Oh, he's been pretty good here,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: second and thirteenth the last two years. The price ninety
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: three hundred, the betting market if it translates to dfs,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the fact that it is guys like Ludwig Morikawa and
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: can't lay around him. He was in the eight K
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: range last time out when he was getting clicked and
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: did not really come through, But I still think that
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that leads to people going to him some So I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: think Fitzpatrick Hoveland are sort of where people land, and
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: then Tommy Ladd always gets a little bit of love
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and ninety nine hundred still psychologically like we talked about
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the right type of price there, so leave it at
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that before we head into the eight K range. Talk
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: about the AK range from a couple perspectives. One, some
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: of the guys you see there that you think people
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: are gonna go to and what stands out guys you like.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: But then also this is still somewhat feasible just to
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: take like a Scottie with an eight K guy right
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: like and then you run it down there. So I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: think that's another conversation to be had is if you're
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: not doing that, how do you play it differently if
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: you will? And if you are doing that, how do
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you sort of see playing it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of guys in this AK range
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: that are in form, starting all the way down at
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the bottom with god her up, Ben Griffin, Aaron Ry's
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: in form, Harris English has been great. Then you get
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: a mix of like really high upside guys who have
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: been playing quite well for a lot of the season,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: but like Kigan, have fallen off a little bit, just
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: like ceb Straca, like Cork Connor's HYDECKI and Burns at
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the top of the eight K's I think could slip
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: through the cracks a little bit. Burns like another guy
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: who was red hot and then kind of has fallen
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: off a little bit since, so he could end up
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: being really low owaned. This is It's just like a
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: very very intriguing range where I don't know exactly which
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: guys to prefer at the moment, because if anyone playing
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: really well slip through the cracks and isn't going to
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: be that high owned, okay, just play them ride that
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: hot hand. But there are also guys who, because there
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: are so many inform in this range, there are other
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: guys who we know have a ton of upside who
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: could really slip through the cracks as well. So I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: have a feeling I'm going to want to target someone
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: in this range. I just have no idea who it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: going to be at this point.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm thinking about different builds too, Like maybe
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you could go with something like, you know, if you're
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a guy up top a Xander, then so be it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm not sure who it's going to be,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: but if you went with like a Xander and a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: couple eight K guys that could get you different, then
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: with Scotty, it's mostly going to be Scotty and Rye
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and then dropping down. I just think people love playing
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rye. He's sitting there coming off another good week
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: sixteenth here last year, less than average price of eighty
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: three hundred. The projections love him early, so things like
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that is where I see people landing and starting things off.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: There's a ton of other guys around him, and the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: eight K range has all the you know, we we
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: shut out our guy DJ seventy five earlier, all the
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: or he could guys. You know a djendism for you
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is there's a bunch of those. It's like this guy
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: can never play good this week, or he could, and
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: you know, this guy's the chalk, we gotta play him.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody else could outdo him or they could. Like there's
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: so many guys around him that people are gonna make
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: statements on that. It definitely could be like got her up,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: could never play good after a win, a third and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a ten member after the win. No way he's gonna
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: come out and do good the fallowing week third. Oh,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: but that's gotta be it. Now that he's coming back
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: state side, things are gonna shut down for him. Nope,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: tenth Like, if you're playing good, you're playing good, and
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: you can obviously relate to that. It does. It works
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: in a lot of different things. It's momentum. Things can
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: fall off. Just ask our guy callin Marikao. We talked
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: about earlier things could be going really good. There was
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: a graphic when he won the Open that was super
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: comparable to Tiger Woods. At the time. That was actually
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the compar It was a legit sample size at that
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: point of his stuff versus Tiger stuff, similar in age.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: How it happened all that people were like whoaahoa, Like
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: hold up, I would never do this comparison because there's
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: a long way to go, But this graphic is matching up,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: and it was at least a legitimate enough sample size,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: not a you know, just like a you know this
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: week versus this week, like got her up versus Scotty recently.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Everyone that's posting that knows that that's not They're not
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: dying on that hill. They're just saying, it's pretty interesting
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: that over this short term he's still outdone him. So
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: got her up? Is there at a K? Ben Griffith,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: what are we a month or six weeks removed he
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: was the second best player in the world. They're saying,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you know he's coming for everybody. Now, what do we got?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: That stretch was a eighth, a win, a second, a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: tenth of fourteen thirteen since then miscut, miscut, but then
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: eleventh again last week. So can he come around? Cam
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Young coming off a win, Well, he got his win.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: The old one was he's gonna party it up this
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: week and not be that the guy barely smiles. I
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: would love to partying and see what that looks like.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: So there's all these little options. I'm not gonna name
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: them all. Keegan playing captain, better show up something this week,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: captain to captain for his own rights. You know, he's
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: got to do it for himself. Hedecki, I thought he
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: won here last year, right, Yeah, yeah, DECKI won here
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: last year. Just had to find it and then burns,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: you know, like you said, as a guy that can
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: always show up. So it's not about really, like you said,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: picking a guy. That's what we go the opposite on,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: not me and you. But like in general most shows,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: we're not just looking at the picks and plays. It's
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: how can we construct these rosters differently and you can
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: get comfortable. You could go to a balanced build where
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the key is this is my big takeaway, I guess.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Then I'll flip back to you for any final thoughts
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: before we go to the sevens. If you go Scotty,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you know you're limited in this range. But if these
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: guys are the ones that end up needed, if you
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: need two or three of these guys and they end
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: up popping up, it's gonna be with whoever does best
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: up top. Where that's a scenario where Scotty could Like
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: this is the funny part. People always say, Scotty at
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: thirteen K in this field, he's basically got a win
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to pay off his value. No, there's so much that
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: goes on around him that you have to account for.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: But vice versa to that, or alongside of it, is
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that Scotty could come fifth. But the four guys above
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: him are all eight K guys, and right on his
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: tail is Fitzpatrick and Hobland, and it's like Scotty actually
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: crushed and did his job for his price, but it's
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: again what happened on the board around him. That's how
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you beat the non Scotty lineups if you will in
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: that type of scenario, just talking through it. Any further
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: thoughts on that roster construction as a whole with the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: eight k's anything else there before moving to the sevens.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Well, if you go with Scotty, you're lock with seventy
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: four Hunterred for the last five spots. So you actually
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: can build some pretty quality Scotty lineups with two eight
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: K guys, particularly if they're a lower eight case like
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think you could do Scotty Burns h Decky
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: very easily, But like Scotty Griffin, Gottarup still leaves six
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: point ninety six for your next three. So that's actually
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: a pretty comfortable build. No one will have any issue
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: going to something like that. So I think it's the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: upright K combinations that would be a little bit tougher,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Like if you tried Scotty Burns a DECI. Now you're
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: left a sixty four point three for your for your
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: next three guys, So that would be tough to do,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: but I think we will see a decent amount of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Scotty plus two eight k's just because like this, like
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: like you said this, this range is loaded, so people
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: are gonna love Scotty. They're gonna love this range.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say, and I agree one hundred
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: percent because that's the math on it. But if you
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: do that, I just would tell people again, and a
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: tool like Saber sim can help you look out for this.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: You know there's different tools out there, but just to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: show you is that this is the setup where if
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: people go to Scotty with the most popular eight K
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: guys or even just I'll be honest, even if people
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: don't go to the most pop and say, well, I'm
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: gonna skip right then and go to a couple different
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: guys in the eight cause that is a good start still,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: but where it lands you, I fear, and again, just
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: keep an eye on your own portfolio when you're going
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: through it. That then people will land on the same
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: low seven K guys or upper sixes and they think like, oh,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking outside the box. I pretty much skipped all
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the chalk in the seven case and I didn't play
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Rye it can be enough, it can work, but it
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: also can put you in a spot where you were
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: sort of boxing yourself in a little bit. Even though
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: you may have a unique lineup, your construction is not
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: actually outside of the box as you thought, because of
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: putting you in the same sort of zone of everybody
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: else in the most popular plays where you don't get
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: a ton of leverage. But yeah, like I said, a
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: tool like sabersim could set you up for success on that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I know you have different tools, but just to note it,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: that is a possibility. Go to thee.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: But one of the things I talk about in my
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: discord with people is I like to take people off
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: of the idea of differentiation in lineus because differentiation in
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: and of itself is not valuable and instead trying to
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: think about separation potential. And so to your point, like
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: if you start Scottie and then two Chalky eight K guys,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: now you're counting on the cheaper, lowest upside players in
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: your lineup to give you the separation. That doesn't work
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: very well, right, Like you can't be counting on a
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: million Agrillo in this event to give you separation from
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the field to to vault you up leaderboards. You want
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: to find somebody with upside who can actually be that
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: separator man.
• 36:08
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• 36:10
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• 36:12
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• 36:14
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• 36:15
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• 36:17
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• 36:20
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• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So let's bring it back. Let's pop into the seven
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: K range here, and what is sort of your thoughts
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: on the seven K range this week? Because there's there's
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: enough guys in they're like, there's actually a lot. What
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the difference is, I will say, is when you have look,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: people are done with this guy. So I won't even
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: use Grazerman, but you've got Nick Taylor, see Wu Ryan Girard,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Min Wu Lee, Sam Stevens. People usually like to play
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the projections. Do at least Novak, Kevin You, Grioh, Nico.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: These are all guys people are very comfortable playing, I think,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and there's not a ton of difference in lineup construction
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: or what you just talk about with like separation versus differentiation,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: where I think people will be comfortable relying on some
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: of these guys. So how are you handling the sevens
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and what's your thoughts on the sevens versus the upper
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: sixes because I was kind of throw them into the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: mix anyway.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is the range where I do
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: see a lot of separation potential from guys, and it's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: it's ironically because there's not a lot of separation in
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: their actual projections, and so wherever the chalk goes to,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: you can, like, like we talked about earlier, we have
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: basically free license this week to just go to contrarian
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: guys in this range. We're going to sacrifice very little
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: from a projection standpoint, and we can go to a
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: lot of the time higher upside plates. So for example,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: like Shane Lowry at seventy four hundred dollars, I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: that price tag is going to attract people. I know
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: he's not in the best form, but I think that
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: price tag end up itself is going to attract people.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: But you can go to a much higher volatility player
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: like a Jake Knapp potentially at lower ownership, and now
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: when that plays really well, if you get just another
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: middling event from Lowry, you're getting that separation. So that's
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the kind of thing I'm gonna be looking for throughout
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: this price range. I think when a Clark is another
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: potentially really valuable to guy, really valuable guy to go
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: to here, even though he's going to project a little
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: bit worse than just about any of the popular options
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: in this range. But when he plays well, is he
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: at the top of leaderboard, he makes a ton of birdies.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing I'm looking for this week.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And it goes back to what people asked about earlier.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I know it seems, you know, for those that live
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: within the bubble with us and they've heard this stuff before,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I get it, but not everybody has. Some people are
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: starting questioning how they do it. Is there's some of
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: these safety valve plays where it's based on a good
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: projection which is baked in off of a good betting
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: board odds where it's baked in off of official world
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: golf rankings. It's like those are literally the worst rankings.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: They're trying to revamp them all the time. So it's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: like one thing leads to another, and that's where people
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: get confused. But when you have four rounds, yes, someone
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: will probably WD or whatever happens happens. I get it,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: but it's like we're thinking positively here glass half full
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: or more full. You know. This is the point is,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: if you're thinking that way, it's like the safety valve
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't really do a lot for it. You need the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: wild setup, you need the scoring, you need the finishing position,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: you need the risk reward because it'll be separation to
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: your point, not only in the ownership setup of your
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: lineup and different maybe construction whatever that is. But if
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: they do have their ceiling outcome, they're just so far
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: ahead of the rest of the pack because because of
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: where they are and what their upside is, that's what's
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: going to separate you. So don't don't be afraid to
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: take the risk on those guys, and then you could
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: do whatever you want a little bit different around them,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: as long as you're willing to make that take that
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: risk on some of those options. So I think that's
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: a good call. With guys like Shane Lowry, who really
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: has nothing to show for anything, you know, but people
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: will say at seventy four hundred at his price point,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: at his this that's kind of the setup that I'm
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: looking at. So I think I think that's kind of
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: a good point you made. People will definitely fall into
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: that camp and take their safety valves there as opposed
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: to another spots. And it's like you could definitely take
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: your stands down low, pick your guys you feel safer
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: with there, and then sprinkle some of these high upside,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: high risk, high reward options in this seven K range,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: which I think is a good spot to do it
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: this week. I'm trying to see there's anybody else. Was
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: there any other names specifically that stood out there? I
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: know you've mentioned Nap a couple of times. What about
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: like Harry Hall, Bobby mack, Wyndam, Clark Mav some of
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: those guys. Was there any other names that stood up
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: to you in this range that might get overlooked?
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Spawn. I don't know what it is,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: but people just don't seem to want to play JJ Spawn.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: And he's a really good player. We've seen, like you
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: can't accidentally win a US Open. But it's one't though,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: like he's just he's a better player than a lot
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: of the guys in this range, and I don't think
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: people are gonna want to play him because over the
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: last month, like since his win, people just say, like
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Oh he got his big win. It's not gonna happen
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: again this year or something like that, Like that sort
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: of thought process doesn't actually have any merit to it,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: and he seems like he's going to be under on
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love this comment from BG little next that's
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: full of evergreen DFS advice so good it could be
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: paywallt Thanks to the insights, Tambo and Alex. We appreciate you, man,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: and definitely that's what makes it fun when it's more organic,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: like just text Alex say, yo, here's the situation you
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: want to hop on. He's like down instantly, and I
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: love that. So certainly appreciated Alex, and obviously love going
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: through the stuff with you on the JJ spawn note.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I actually go on a different rant here with you.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I want to get your take on this. Did you
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: see I know it's like L A B. Putters, but
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: it was it's laugh people say laugh like lab. But
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: did you see this acquisition situation like the firm that
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: just gobbled them up for two hundred million dollars instantly?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: What did you see that? And what was your take
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: on it? If you did. I'm always curious about the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: business side of golf as well. Just what your thoughts are.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I know very little about equipment for a guy as
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: not that I'm that accomplished, but like for someone who
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: has played the level of golf that I've played, I
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: know very little about equipment, to the point where I
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: don't even always know that what clubs I'm playing, Like
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I'll get new clubs to tell me, like what Marrowl'd
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you get? I'm like, I don't know which everyone's they
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: gave me, everyone's I tested best to it. I just
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: do what they tell me. I just I'll try anything everything,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: And I don't care what they're called. I don't all
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: that stuff. So I I did see it, but I
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: don't know a lot about it. And and I know
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: like a little bit about the technology to these to
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: these putters, I will say to the average golfer, it's
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: probably a waste of money. You have to be very
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: very consistent with your putting stroke. For the tech in
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of the putting shafts, especially like the putters themselves,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: they can help anybody. This the expensive putting shafts, you
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: have to have a very good, consistent putting stroke for
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: it to have any effect.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know people are probably laughing because they'll never
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: get equipment talk out of me. I'm same as you
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: when it comes to DFS and you're like, yo, so
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: and so has changed his driver. I'm like, man, he
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: could have practiced with this new driver for the last
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: eight weeks and now it's fully ready to go. You
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: didn't know that. You're never gonna get that kid bit.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get the one side of the story. Like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: so and so is putting a driver in play, everyone
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: goes immediately to negative like, oh this is not or
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: if it's a positive light, they put it automatic into
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: the positive. Same same thing vicec Rory's going back to
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: this driver. Now he's gonna crush what says it that's
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: saying he's struggling with what he curly has. He's thinking
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: this it's fifty to fifty. You're never going to know.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: But to me, there's always a different angle to look at.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But to me, with this deal, the business aspect of
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: it was most important, and just the psychology aspect of
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: it of people seeing day Jay spot like they hit
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: a lightning bowl right, the lightning rod of a player
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: wins major with tool device Platt putter in this format
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and then there is other stuff baked in, but they
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: already had sales. Now sales spike the pe firms like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: we're gonna automatically collect on all these sales plus the
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: future add ons and the stack. I really think it
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: was a good deal for both sides, but I think
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: they're going to make out more than okay on this
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: just based on the back end numbers, back in the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: napkin numbers of the business deal. And that's something I like, like,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you know, always looking at different things with acquisitions. I know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: shout out to our guy Pat Meyo just had the
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Fantasy National with Betsford's golf and the rabbit Hole, Like
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: there's all kinds of different things going on in the
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes of it, and that one, to me
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: was quite interesting. It's just immediate. Like I posted the
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Shark Tank thing, it's like, so, what are your sales?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: You know, one hundred and eleven thousand, But I got
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the slips here that say four hundred and fifty thousand
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: are now buying this putter and they're like, all right,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: sold for two hundred million, Like we'll just take it
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: because I can figure out the numbers on it. But
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: it's always wild and with equipment, it's tough to say
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. But I remember people used to make
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: fun of like those going to the tournaments and selling
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: you the magic iron or the magic driver. It always
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: hits the center of the face, and like setting up
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the booths and all that. I can just imagine the hustle.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: You've probably been tried to get wood on a bunch
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: of those deals throughout your time playing, where people like,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: just try this out, try this out, and you'll take
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: what you can for free. I'm sure, but if if
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna fit your game, you're not gonna run
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it for no reason.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was awkward to a full set
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: of irons ones for free and then they were like, oh,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: by the way, but you'll have to pay for him
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: in a month. I'm like, okay, so you're not getting
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: these for free. It's like it's free. It's so strange
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: for Yeah, they try a lot of different stuff.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing I'll say here in the seven
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: K range, as quick as I see like a little
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: bit of congregation at the top, a little bit of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: congregation at the bottom. I'm not sure, maybe MAV because
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: people always seem to like to play this guy, but
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I do wonder on like Windham, the aforementioned nap who
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: you talked about, Denny McCarthy, Jason Day, Brian Harmon, Chris
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: kirk Off a good week, Like where do these guys
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: all show up with the Kidiam of Post and Batsias
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: at the bottom? Which you know, Akhay could literally I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: mean wded he could literally fall off the face of
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the earth for a month and people would still play
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: him when he comes back, regardless of price. He's just
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: a great dude to follow. He's happy, go lucky, He's
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: got a great game that's built for it. It's just
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: you know, we haven't seen lately, not that much right
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the WD before that twenty fifth, thirtieth, twenty six, sixteen,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: So people will still play their guys here. But I
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: do think there is that pocket in the middle that
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: goes a little bit more overlook JJ spawn to some
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: of those other guys above him, Like you said, so
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: interesting to see how it all plays out. But let's
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: round it out. Let's go to this six K range.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Final thoughts here. The six is just some of the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: guys that stand out. But clearly you can play a
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: few of these guys together and put the Wiscoatti up top.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Or you can get different with a balanced build with
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: a couple sixes. Lots of ways you can go. What
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: are the six k's saying to you when you're first
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: looking at it?
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Here, My immediate thoughts are Nick Taylor, Ryan Gerard, Kevin You,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Amelion agrie Leve will probably look like the best in
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: our numbers. The guy who I know is going to
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: look pretty good in our numbers that I'm not quite
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: sold on is Seawou Kim. He has not played well
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: in these last few events, and it's kind of been
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: every part of his game, Like he was bad in
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: both ball striking metrics at the three M, he was
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: really bad with his irons at the Windham. His putting
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: has been atrocious since the Memorial in the beginning of June.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: There's just not a whole lot to look at with
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Sea Wou, not just to think that he can play
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: well this week, but especially not to think that he
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: has a ceiling this week. So I think that's going
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: to be a projection that I'm just not following of ours.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: But as we said earlier, like you can take a
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: chance on any of these guys, there's no one in
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: this range that can't play well. There's no one in
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: this range that can't play poorly. So it's just a
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: number scheme. And I think the key for me is,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: like I don't see anyone in this range that I
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: think I want to count on as a separator in
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: my lineup, so I might actually favor floor from these
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: guys rather than ceiling. The one exception could be Nick Taylor.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I do have an outright on Nick Taylor. We've found
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: him at one point eight percent to win in ninety
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: to one, so I like that a lot. And I
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: just think in addition to being one of the higher
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: volatility guys down here, he more so than anyone else
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: in this range, I'm going to have confidence in on
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Sunday if he's in contention.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it can really avoid a bogie too, like in
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the time of need. Like that's the only thing I
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: know I got the Canadian bias. But if you just
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: think back to even the year that he won that
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: RBC Canadian Open, the waste Management Phoenix open, Like there's
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: bogies to be found everywhere, but you know those courts
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: is maybe not as much as others, but at this
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: course I think that's kind of one thing we're counting
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: on With a guy like him, he can come through.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I think the Sea wou thing is certainly interesting, like
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the first argument, So I always say with content, you
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: can go one way or the other. I'm with your
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: way of thinking. But I wonder if what people are
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: thinking is I'm buying Colin Morikawa for sixty eight hundred dollars.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Their scorecards look identical for this season, like it's an
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: eighth way back when with some miscuts eleven thirty four,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: like it's it's not much going on there, so people
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: can see it from that perspective. But he's just so
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: cheap on paper when you look at the betting odds
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: and the rankings and all that stuff that people go there.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: You know where I'm going. Song Jay, He's back. Look
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: at last week, but you know he still blew it
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: up in the fourth either way, sixty eight hundred, he's there.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: But I think there's something to be said for some
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: of those guys lower and this is for sure it's
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: pretty common, but also just has to be pointed out.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: The upper six case yes, are always more popular, even
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: though you don't see a lot of double digit ownership,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: and I get that, but Nick Taylor, you said it,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Sea Wou, Ryan Girard Kevin, You like, that's where people
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: land here. Not only is there guys in there, like
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: the Michael Kims or the Novaks of the world that
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: definitely could come through and have been playing just fine.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And again at Novak was the best in the world
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: quote unquote at one time to everybody, and they loved him.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Why not now at sixty six hundred, we know what
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: his upside could be. I'll take some shots there, But
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: it's the guys down below from that, Like if you
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: look at Bridgeman or Bud Cawley or whatever else you
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: like down there, my boy Steven Yegg or people like EVR,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: like whatever it is you like down there, this is
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: where you could take some shots because they're two three
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks in the difference and you kind have a
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: maxed out Scottie Scheffler lineup that's super choky, not much separation.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I'm with you that you're not always gonna get a
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: lot of separation down here. But if you like your build,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: taking Sea Wu Kim down to Michael Kim for one
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks less could be the difference of ten fifteen
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: points in ownership and just completely different. And that would
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: be a separation piece because most lineups that land on
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: a cheaper option are gonna have Sea Wu. So if
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: you had more Michael Kim and used him as sort
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: of a stand just using an example, again, not about
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: the picks, it's just about the process. If you did that,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: you would have more lineups in contention, and you'd have
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: enough Michael Kim in that example that so many lineups
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: are dying on Seawoo Kim in this example, whereas you've
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: got enough Michael Kim to not just have him with Scotty,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: but those Scotty ones are probably majority of where you
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: have him because prices and I get that, but you'd
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: be able to have different differentiation and separation in combo
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: pack there because of your your stand that you take
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: or your can't think of the word right now, but
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: you're sort of it was business say, your stand that
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: you take on that your conviction conviction, Sorry, it was
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: on tip toe of what you're doing down there, and
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: that could be with other guys. It's not about Michael Kim.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I'm saying there's other options. If you go back to
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the well people liked Bud Cawley. What was it last
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: week or the week before and he missed the cut
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: or the event before, and now he's down at this price.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: You could go back Tom he sixty four hundred. You
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: could play d Tree, you could play Fox, or there's
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: other guys that you can go to. DN Nico last
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: week wasn't even that bad finishing nineteenth. I don't see
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: nearly as many people landing on Nico as Grio and
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: you right above him, Gerard right above them, and see
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: who right above Gerard. So anything else in the sixes
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about, or just overall with the event, roster, construction, anything,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: bring it up now and then we'll get out of here. Yeah.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Two things. Number one, I think the colleague call is
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: quite good because yeah, colleaye call, I think it's a
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: really good one. Because at the window, like he just
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: had an issue with three foot putts kind of nowhere.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: He's a very good putter. He lost three point four
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: strokes per round putting at the window, and like I said,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: it came out of nowhere. Those were incredibly fast screens,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: especially down grain. Getting off those grains should fix him automatically.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is like, okay, if you're having
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: an issue with four foot putt, like that's one of
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: the easier things to fix for the week of practice.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: So I like that one. I do want to talk
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: about such for a little bit because I've been I've
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: been listening to you and Pat talk about some JA
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: for weeks now, and I kind of joined the commerce
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: station because I think I'm on Pat side here.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: You probably shouldn't. I'll let you go ahead. Yes.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: The second worst approach estimate that we have this week
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: is for Davis Riley and Joe high Smith at point
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: five six at negative point five to six Strokeskain approach
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: some Jay's at negative point eighty eight. It is by
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: far the worst estimate of any player any category this week.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: It's hard to overstate how bad his iron play has been.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: And the problem with that is, like we just saw
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: this past week some j quote unquote spiked with his
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: irons to what was it zero point one strokes game pround? Yeah,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: zero point one zero strokes game round. That was a
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: spike for him at the window. So he spiked with
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: his irons and got a T twenty seven out of it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: It's just so hard to contend when you're ball striking?
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Is that bad? For a while there, I was actually
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: still playing him like I played him at the Memorial.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: He got me a sixteenth place finish. That was strong.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I'll take it. But as soon as you get off
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: extremely difficult golf courses, you need to hit the ball close,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: you need to make birdie's and he just has so
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: much trouble doing that because he doesn't have distance and
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have iron play. Those are the two things
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: that can actually lead to consistent birdie opportunities. He doesn't
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: have either one. I don't know where you find a
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: ceiling from him.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with you, it's just you know,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it's my guy. I always stick with him. But I think,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: like what we've talked about is that it's been bad.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: You know, the idea here is like it's a bit
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: baked in at sixty eight hundred, but maybe you know
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: it could be sixty two sixty one? Kid, did it
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: definitely be lower. It's just more of I've been The
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: problem is, though, Alex, here's the thing. I've been waiting
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: for the season to end so I don't need to
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: play this guy anymore. And it's like, if you go
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: look because of his Master's result, because of his good
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: finishes this season's he was sitting thirtieth in the FedEx
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Cut playoffs last week. I don't think last week hurt him.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't look at the most updated ones. I mean
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: that's the most hilarious thing too. By the way, on
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: a side note, while I try and pull this up fast,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: is last week everybody cares about like, oh, he's on
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: the outside looking in, he's got to make the playoffs.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: What about this week there's gonna be everyone that's outside
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: is you know, very close to the number. It's seventy
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: seventy down to the fifty highest points that finishes this week.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: So the point would be is like people look at
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: it this week, it should matter the same. But it's
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the point of why last week it doesn't because it doesn't.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: There's twenty guys outside that need to get in, there's
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: twenty guys inside that need to stay in. It's all
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the same shit. So you can argue it either way,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: like I talked to it earlier, and mind you a
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Sung Jay twenty ninth, twenty ninth is where he's sitting,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: so you know, the guy still makes his way up
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: there I don't see like Speed is on the outside
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: looking in Seewoo. There's a lot all these guys are.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying of the names that were up there,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of what you would expect, and I
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe Speed can make something happen here, but
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of the guys just on the inside, you know,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: gott her Up can't lay Burns Hoveland, Sung Jay Berger.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I think these guys would be pretty popular, like people
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: want to play them anyway, And now that's just another
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: added fuel to the fire type argument. But yeah, I
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: don't have too much else Sung Jay hard to defend
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: at this point. The only defense is that there's only
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks left after this, so we'll reassess
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: for next season and see what happens.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: I think that eventually he's going to figure out the
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Irons and there will be a point where, like we
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: want to be ahead of the curve on him, but
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's right now. And I think the
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: last thing I'll say here is early in the season,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: the Irons were still really bad, but the driving was
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: consistently really good. The driving has also fallen off a
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: little bit late and to me. That kind of says, Okay,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: he's trying to figure out the iron swing, and like
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: just a little bit of GOLFINSI here, Swinging irons and
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: swinging your driver are actually quite different. And the harder
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: you're working, the more change you're trying to make with
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: your iron swing, the harder it is to stay consistent
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: with your driver swing. So I think he might have
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: yet another step backwards to take before he can start
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: making two or three strides forward again.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta take down that. Nobody cares. Work harder,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: sign and send. Sung Jaya works smarter, not harder. He's
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: he's working on the stuff, but it's it can be deterrent.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: It can be a deterrent to the other stuff to
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: keep it in check. I know people you know like
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: to make fun of the Sung Jay slim joke as
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: well when he started to slim down. I mean, that
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: definitely can change your swing. I don't care anybody's We've
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: seen it time and time again. It's like you have
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: one body composition, one motion, one feeling. And I thought
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: it was hilarious that, you know, we didn't get the
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: We're at the end now, so who cares? He got
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: a few minutes left the Happy Gilmore two, Like how
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: the movie just flipped on a dime to like, all
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, it went to back surgeries that people
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: were getting to like swing longer and stuff like it
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: just like a whole nother movie within a movie. I
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: like how Mayo put it, and it was like, yeah,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: that's uh. You know. A thing though, is like people
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: do change their body composition and then their swing changes
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: because of it. I don't know if he's still working
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: through that or whatnot, but he definitely did slim down
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: from when we first saw some Jay come into the
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: come on to the tour right, Definitely Happy Go More
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: to take before we go.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Oh it's gotta be bad if the golf guy himself
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't go and check it out. I mean, you know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: the original is such a classic you might be better
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: off to not watch. But the funny part is, and
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I keep shitting on this as people say it's definitely watchable,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: as if people were watch Now you are the guy
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: that hasn't watched it. It's like, man, it's it's watchable
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: for sure. It is what you thought it was going
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: to be. It was never gonna be a masterpiece. I
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: get that angle, but it just seemed like, you know,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of attempts at a lot of things. So
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: someone mentioned earlier, which is worse Cow's recent form or
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: his acting skills. I mean the you know, all different
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: stuff in that movie. It was like Xander, Ricky, other
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: guys just it was it was bad for certain guys
• 58:43
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• 58:46
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• 58:48
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• 58:53
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• 58:56
  Speaker 2: for him not ever deserving an act an Oscar is
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: the person that actually deserves an Oscar. But go ahead, Alex,
• 59:02
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• 59:04
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• 59:05
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• 59:07
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• 59:25
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