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#249: It's a Wonderful Knife (2023) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  I'm the best. So the rest welcome to What's
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  Your least favorite Scary movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favorite. And the least favorite?
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  Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has is fanbase. Even if we don't always get.
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  My name is Travis. My name is Jesse and welcome.
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  It truly is a wonderful knife. That's what we're talking about
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  this week. Yeah, it's a wonderful knife.
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  Yeah, Patreon voted episode for this month.
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  Yes indeed it is. Quick announcements, We had our
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  TV or Not to Be episode that came out this past Sunday.
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  We covered Chris Massacre AKA Secret Santa, it was a lot of
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  fun. Be sure to go check out that
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  episode and check out the movie. It is streaming for free
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  currently on 2B. Yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah, a good time. Yes, I'm excited about that one.
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  Speaking of pre show announcements, do we have poll
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  results? We do OK.
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  So we talked about Silent Night Deadly Night Part 2 last week,
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  so naturally we wanted to know what your all's Christmas looks
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  like. So we have four options we have
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  going to the movies garbage day. Yeah, taking out the trash.
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  Visiting old friends. Yeah, like, like Mother
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  Superior. Or going on a picnic.
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  Yeah, I don't have anything else.
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  To add to that one, yeah, you know, Jeep massacres, yeah,
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  yeah, stuff like that, you know where that happens.
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  So 27% are going to the movies. OK, we we do that on.
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  Christmas. Yeah.
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  Well, we've done a couple Christmases.
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  We did it last Christmas. Yeah, yeah, garbage day got 55%.
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  Man, what is what is your all's tax situation?
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  What are you paying to have trash pick up on Christmas Day?
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  Is it actually efficient track trash or is it for the memes?
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  I know yeah. Visiting old friend got 18% and
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  going on a picnic 0. Yeah, OK.
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  Out of all those, yeah, going to the movies is most fitting for
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  us because, yeah, we went to the movies last year.
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  I don't know, Maybe this year, again, we'll see how it goes.
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  If anything's playing that, we'd want to see that's.
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  Something my family used to do quite a bit.
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  Yeah, yeah, a lot of people do it.
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  It was a packed theater when we went.
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  Yeah, that one time it. Was actually a pretty good time.
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  Yeah. So yeah, that's it for the poll.
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  So I think we are good to go into the movie this week.
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  I would say that we are all. Right.
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  So kick it off, Jesse. I will go ahead and kick it off.
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  It's a wonderful night. Released October 8th, 2023 at
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  Beyond Fest with a wider release on December 1st, 2023.
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  We watched it on Shutter, but you can also currently stream it
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  on AMC Plus, Hulu, Philo, YouTube Premium, YouTube TV,
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  Primetime, Sling TV Premium, Prime Premium, Disney Plus
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  Premium, or you can rent it from Google Player.
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  Fandango at home written by Michael Kennedy, directed by
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  Tyler McIntyre, music by Russ Howard the 3rd and special
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  effects makeup by Nikki de long. Starring Jane Whittup as Winnie
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  Carruthers, Joel McHale as David Carruthers, Aiden Howard as
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  Jimmy Carruthers, Aaron Boys as Judy Carruthers, Jess McCloud as
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  Bernie Simon, Justin Long as Henry Waters, Kevin Isabella's
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  GAIL Prescott and Cassandra Nod as Karen Simmons Travis.
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  Yes, it's time for our favorite game.
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  Budget or buck? Ted.
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  Buck, Ted. Probably, I actually don't have
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  any information. Oh really?
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  Budget for it. Surprising.
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  Yeah, it it feels Buck Ted, though.
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  I mean, it's got good production.
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  It's just, you know, it doesn't seem like a movie that needed
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  $10 million. Yeah, it's a it's a decently
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  small little little set up. It does have an opening box
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  office of 598,000 and a worldwide gross of 1.3 million.
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  Oh good. Currently sitting with a 5.2 out
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  of 10 on IMDb. I did pull three other movies
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  from 2023. OK.
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  And I have a theme. Yeah.
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  Telling retellings of familiar favorites.
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  Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
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  So the first one is Cocaine Bear, which is a bit of a legend
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  in Kentucky because the Kentucky for Kentucky store does in fact
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  have primary ownership of Pablo Escobar.
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  He lives here in Lexington with us.
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  Yeah, they're like in the Kentucky for Kentucky store
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  right now. Yep, that was released February
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  24th, 2023. It had a budget of $35 million.
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  It was a big movie, man. That's a good.
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  Movie It made a worldwide gross of 88 million and has an IMDb
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  score of 5.9 out of 10. It might be because we are at
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  the heart of that story. I mean, it takes place in
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  Tennessee. I don't know why.
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  I can't remember exactly why Kentucky has claimed it, but,
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  you know, it's ours. Yeah.
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  We. We call dibs.
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  Yeah. But there was a lot of hype
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  around that movie. Yeah, and there was like a whole
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  special release at the Kentucky Theatre with Pablo there.
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  Elizabeth Banks should have been there for that, right?
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  Why weren't you there, Elizabeth?
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  How dare. How dare.
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  OK, second movie, Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey.
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  Yeah, cool. All right, another bear.
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  And we have talked about that one on the show.
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  So if you want to hear our full thoughts on that, go ahead and
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  look for that. But that released March 17th
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  Imam's birthday 2023 budget of $100,000.
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  Where do I gross of 7.7 million? Yeah.
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  And I'm gonna go ahead and say this is a rude IMDb score.
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  It's in the fours if I have to guess.
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  It's in the twos. What it's?
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  A 2.9. It's nowhere near that bad.
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  Why are people? I feel like that's like
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  reactionary. And I feel like we, we talked
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  about this a lot on our full episode covering it, that a lot
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  of people were just mad that it's a Winnie the Pooh horror
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  movie cuz we've gotten much more positive.
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  Reception has been shown for Blood and Honey too.
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  Also deserved. And we will be covering it at
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  some point. Yeah, I just don't understand
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  why people, I mean, like 2 is definitely an improvement over
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  one, but one is by no means a bad movie.
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  I don't that that's people hate like, oh, it's lazy by just like
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  taking Winnie the Pooh and making a horror movie out of it.
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  You know, like whatever, man. Real fun moments in there.
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  Yeah, I we talk a lot about that in the episode.
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  If you want to hear our thoughts, just go listen to
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  that. But that's that's really
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  upsetting. Yeah.
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  And then finally, we haven't seen this one, but it is
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  Renfield. Wow.
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  OK, Yep. Cuz that's about Dracula's
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  assistant. Yeah, that's a weird casted
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  movie right there. Yeah, it's we got Nick Hall and
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  Nick Cage. Nick Cage and also Ben.
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  Fuck. What's his last name?
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  Jean Ralphio. Ben Schwartz.
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  Yes, I get Ben Schwartz and Jason Schwartzman.
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  I get their names mixed up online.
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  Yeah, it's. Easy.
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  I transpose them. Yeah.
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  So anyway, Renfield released April 14th 2023.
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  It had a budget of 65,000,000 and a gross of 26,000,000.
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  IODB score is 6.4 out of 10 so you know people are feeling it.
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  People like it, but I've just never had any desire to watch
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  that I it's. One of those that like if we
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  were with a group of people and somebody put it on, I'd probably
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  like, you know. Yeah, sure, whatever.
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  Vampires are just a tough sell for me honestly.
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  That could be a whole different conversation.
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  Yeah. Yeah, OK, I have a tagline.
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  A tagline? Just one OK.
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  Every time a bell rings, an Angel gets to kill.
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  Yeah, that's kind of good. It's good cuz it's a playoff of
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  it's a wonderful life. Like I'm not mad about it.
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  Yeah, wonderful wife. It's a wonderful life.
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  I thought you said wife, no life.
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  OK, All right. That's what I was confused
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  about. Yeah.
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  OK, interesting. I have some fun facts.
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  Not not a lot of information out there, but I've got some stuff.
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  Yeah, it's not too surprising. Principal photography took place
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  in Vancouver from March 20th to April 14th, 2023.
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  So they got done just in time to go watch Renfield.
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  Yeah, I got man. Finally.
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  We got to get it done today, guys.
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  The rest of this comes from an interview on borrowingtapes.com
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  with Michael Kennedy. So he was in Lock Town.
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  Freaky was about to be released and he was trying to figure out
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  what his next movie was going to be.
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  And he really, really wanted to do a Christmas horror movie.
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  One of his favorites of all time is Black Christmas.
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  And his kind of thoughts were that like, there's a very dark
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  movie darker than he typically tends to write.
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  Plus you just can't top one of the best movies of all time.
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  No. So he was thinking back on his
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  time making Freaky and Oh my God, what's his name?
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  The person he worked on Freaky with Chris, Chris Landon.
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  Chris, yes, Chris Landon had had him really involved in like the
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  whole process throughout. So that way he could see what
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  it's really like, like on set from start to finish with the
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  movie. And he was thinking about how it
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  was such a good time and he really enjoys the horror comedy
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  stuff. And he was like, what if I do
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  another mashup type of movie like that, but with Christmas.
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  And then he was thinking about one of his dad's favorite movies
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  and his dad had passed a few years ago.
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  It's a Wonderful life and the ISDS just kind of started coming
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  together and so that's how he ended up with It's a Wonderful
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  Knife. He did have the killer
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  description kind of in the script where it was like all
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  white and he was trying to think of like a good killer design.
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  He didn't want to do a killer scene because that had been done
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  before. But it's so fun, who cares?
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  So he was trying to think of different Christmas imagery and
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  he's like, well, a lot of people top their Christmas trees with
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  angels. So he basically described the
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  killer as being in a white mask, dressed in all white from top to
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  bottom, white boots, white gloves, etcetera.
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  And he's like, you don't want to put wings on the killer because
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  that's clunky. It's going to look weird, you
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  don't want to do that. So he also described the dagger
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  and that's like if you look at the designs on the dagger, it's
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  got kind of like a wing like design on the hilt or haft or
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  whatever. And so that's how they got the
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  dagger design, and I thought that was pretty cool.
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  That's cool. And then Justin Long actually
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  pitched the way his character was dressed and played like that
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  was his suggestion for him to be because he came in, he read the
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  script. He's like, listen, I want to do
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  this, but I've got my idea for how I want to do this.
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  I want him to have very badly done blonde hair, be spray
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  tanned, have the veneers. He's very much basing him off of
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  Joel Osteen. I was going to say like he
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  basically watched Righteous Gemstones and then like.
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  Uncle Baby Billy. Yeah, Yeah.
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  So that that's what he was going for with that.
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  And they loved the idea. And they said that he was just
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  like, great on side, like in between takes, he would, like,
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  crack up. But then, you know, right before
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  they're about to start, he would get back into character.
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  He said he really is the actress actor.
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  That's cool. Yeah, he seems like a good guy
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  to be on a project with for sure.
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  Yeah, so that's most of my fun facts I did have.
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  I did read like another interview.
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  It didn't have like a ton of like stuff on the making of the
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  movie, but just kind of their general processes and stuff.
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  This was on slash film and it was an interview with Tyler
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  McIntyre and Michael Kennedy, and one of the things they
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  talked about was that this got kind of flooded with some bad
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  reviews for people that are homophobic.
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  Yeah, I remember back on Twitter he was really going in on and
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  being like that. Yeah, he just kind of they said
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  that they just kind of started leaning in on it at one point
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  because it got ridiculous. And he was like, somebody said
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  that this movie was forcing a gay anti suicide agenda and he
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  was like, so do we need more pro suicide move?
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  Like, is that what you're advocating?
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  For as long as they're gay. And then he joked around that
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  like he was like, maybe, maybe Ben Shapiro will weigh in at
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  some point, and then everybody will know about the movie's
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  existence. I mean, bad press is good press,
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  I guess, yeah. Yeah, so, and I think we had
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  talked about this before. I think that's just fucking
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  stupid. Gay people exist probably more
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  than the homophobic people in the world realize, because
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  somebody doesn't have to say that they're gay to a person
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  that's going to be openly hostile towards them.
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  They shouldn't have to. But, you know, the fact of the
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  matter is the number of gay couples in this movie is not
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  really that outrageous. It's not.
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  It feels like it because they don't do that in movies a lot.
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  I think it's it's only because it's like it's a rare case where
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  there are more gay relationships than straight relationships
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  portrayed in the movie. That's probably what sets some
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  people over there, which is just weird.
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  I mean, it's just, it's just relationships.
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  It's really not even that big of a deal.
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  Relationships, just whatever man get.
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  The fuck over it. Like if gay people have to watch
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  straight relationships all over in their movies.
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  Like you can take one movie, you know what I mean?
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  You don't even have to watch it. Yeah, honestly, if it offends
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  you that much, just don't watch it.
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  Yeah. So anyway, that was like the big
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  controversy surrounding the movie and probably unfortunately
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  had a negative impact on on its spread and reception.
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  Maybe. I don't know, I feel like really
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  people that knew about this movie were already you have to
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  be plugged into the horror community.
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  You have to know about this. And I feel like the horror
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  community is more generally accepting of that type of thing
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  than a lot of other people. Yeah, well, a lot of horror
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  roots are queer. Yeah, I just think that this
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  movie, it was a very limited release and there was a small
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  movie. I guess I tend to forget about
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  how limited some releases are now that we're living in one of
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  the biggest cities in Kentucky. It it.
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  We only had it for, like two or three days up here.
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  Yeah, like it was. It's not even like, like a full
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  week in theaters. So, you know, it's just, it's
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  just what it is. And I've seen a lot of positive
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  comments about it online. You know, people like this
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  movie. Yeah, and they should.
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  And really the only thing I saw and like I'm not saying it
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  didn't exist, but the only thing I saw about like the anti-gay
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  stuff is from Michael Kennedy. Just like agitating the people
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  doing, like, responding to people and like, talking about
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  how it was the gayest movie in all all the time.
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  Like he just like kept like Harp.
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  It's like, Oh yeah, it's so fucking gay.
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  It's like over and over again. I'm like, whatever.
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  Like OK. And I think that's also
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  partially because we tend to try and just curate our online
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  spaces. To yeah, that's what I'm saying
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  I'm I'm not saying it didn't happen and it didn't exist.
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  It's just that wasn't my experience like from walking
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  online all. Right, on that note, yeah, I
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  guess we go. We go ahead and we start talking
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  about our own good, bad, ugly and absurd with the movie.
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  OK, kick it off, Travis. I I like the way that this movie
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  is done. So he's definitely like, I mean,
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  this guy's experience with doing mashups of like different types
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  of movies. Actually, I don't even know if
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  I've, I'm familiar with a movie that he's done that isn't a
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  mashup of other movies. This and Freaky.
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  That's the only thing I think I've seen of his, but he does a
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  good job of combining the elements there.
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  I thought it was really interesting how it opens and we
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  already know the killer. That's a unique thing that's not
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  done often. And then you get the title card
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  and you're like, what's the rest of the movie?
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  Yes, that was the exact moment I had.
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  I was like, OK, we get all this and then what's the rest of the
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  movie? Which obviously we know what the
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  rest of the movie is gonna be if you're familiar with It's a
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  Wonderful Life. Yeah, but still.
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  Well, how was that? Very.
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  Interesting. Yeah, it was a very interesting
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  way to do. That and then you cut a year
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  later like, well, damn, a lot of times past.
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  What are we gonna get into? But it's really interesting.
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  It's very tight, kind of like we were what we were saying about
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  the R2B movie. It, it's a short runtime, it
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  tells a story. It needs to, it doesn't linger
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  on things. It doesn't need to.
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  It gets in, does it? I like the killer a lot, and I
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  may not be a lot, but like, you can't tell me that this guy was
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  not inspired by Ghostface. This is basically like White
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  Ghostface. I they did in in the slash film
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  interview they did end up talking a lot about Scream as an
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  inspiration. I mean, even with the way that
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  the scenes are handled, like you, you take a wag, you take a
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  swing at this person they're whiffing over, they're falling
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  on their feet the entire time. They're stopped so easily.
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  This is Ghostface. And I would definitely
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  recommend, and I'll put the link to that in the show notes here.
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  I would recommend everybody read that interview because I think
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  it was really interesting insight into the movie.
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  It was just kind of hard for me to distill into fun facts
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  without just regurgitating the whole article.
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  It almost felt like this is his audition to do Scream, which
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  then got him the job for Scream 7.
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  And then all that shit went down.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So. But yeah.
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  Like, I, you know, it's, it's a fun time.
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  I like all that stuff. It made for a very fun movie.
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  OK, just a long skirt. It's also really funny.
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  I think that this movie is it's really funny.
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  It's got a good sense of humor, I think, especially like
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  Catherine. Isabelle.
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  She I. Forgot she was in the.
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  Yeah, like her, she's just, she plays a supporting character,
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  but like, her lines are she nails it every single time she's
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  on the screen. She's phenomenal.
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  Justin Long, I mean, he's having a moment.
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  He's had a really solid career, but like, he's having a moment
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  lately. And I love it for him.
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  And I like that he brought this, like, characterization.
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  Yeah, to it. It's fun.
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  I think that the the story is like, it's heartwarming in the
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  way it's meant to be, like taking it's it's inspiration
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  from It's a Wonderful Life, but it also has like those horror
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  elements, especially like that dreariness of where she enters
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  this, like alternate reality. Everything's just bleak and
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  awful and terrible. Instead of just doing weed
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  gummies, people are like smoking crack.
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  It becomes a trap house. And like, you know, we, we do
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  touch on that element of suicide and that's rough.
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  But I mean, that's also again, taking from the inspiration of
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  what it is pulling from. And I think there's also the
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  element of it's, it's very real that that grief that you feel
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  around the holidays, when somebody having to face those
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  losses around holidays is a little bit more intense.
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  And then when you're around people that it doesn't feel like
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  they're acknowledging it or feeling the same way.
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  It kind of makes you like, want to scream and lash out at
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  everyone. Yeah.
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  So I, I think that this really hits a lot of good emotional
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  notes on top of being like a fun slasher and also just funny.
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  So I think it's really well done all around.
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  It does have some good comedic moments there.
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  Yeah. OK, on to bed.
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  I think it's weird that we go into like a weird supernatural
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  thing at the end there with Justin Long having the whole
• 19:20
  town under mind control. I don't like that turn that that
• 19:25
  was so like out of left field. Like I know we're already
• 19:27
  supernatural with like the Aurora borealis or whatever
• 19:31
  doing some reality manipulation, but like, oh and also I can
• 19:35
  control these people with this power.
• 19:39
  OK, I, I kind of go back and forth on it cuz like like you
• 19:47
  said, there's already the supernatural element, but there
• 19:50
  does kind of become a part. Like I feel like it does
• 19:53
  partially take away from the impact of what Winnie's supposed
• 19:56
  to be learning by being in this like an alternate timeline.
• 19:59
  Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah.
• 20:00
  Oh, we need, oh, shit, we need to go over there and kill him.
• 20:03
  Like, they like, tackle so many things and they, like, overcome
• 20:06
  a lot, but it's not really the fact that they, like, found
• 20:10
  themselves or found, you know, what was important.
• 20:13
  They're like, oh, no, like, really we just need to go over
• 20:15
  there and kill that guy. Yeah.
• 20:16
  Like I could have not had any of these like.
• 20:19
  Revelations about myself or other people, like I just had to
• 20:22
  kill this guy and I'm good, whatever.
• 20:23
  I much preferred it when it was more of a metaphorical like he
• 20:28
  breaks. Like after he breaks them he
• 20:30
  controls them as opposed to like oh he's actually literally mind
• 20:33
  controlling. Yeah, I mean, their eyes are
• 20:34
  like glowing because he has them under mind control.
• 20:38
  I just thought it was really lame.
• 20:40
  It was it just it made the movie end on a flat note for me, which
• 20:46
  everything else is great, but that right there I'm like, oh, I
• 20:50
  don't, OK. Yeah.
• 20:52
  So that's about, I mean, that's really, there's not much just
• 20:56
  bad I can say about this movie. I really did enjoy it.
• 20:59
  Yeah, I honestly, I agree. Like I remember feeling like the
• 21:03
  third act kind of fell apart a little bit for me when we first
• 21:05
  watched it, and I felt the same way again last night.
• 21:09
  It's just like, it was right there, man.
• 21:11
  Just like, you know, like you had that build up and just like
• 21:14
  have it be like that personal revelation.
• 21:17
  And then you also like have this thing with Bernie and then boom,
• 21:21
  she solved it. She knows her worth, Bernie
• 21:23
  knows her worth, everybody's happy.
• 21:26
  And then boom, we're back into reality.
• 21:28
  But no, like. Oh, and also there's this weird
• 21:30
  mind control thing going on for just a second.
• 21:33
  Yeah, I'd agree. I don't really have anything
• 21:36
  else to add with it so. OK, do you need to pause for a
• 21:40
  second? Ugly.
• 21:47
  I guess like the whole thing with Henry trying to take over
• 21:53
  the whole town and, you know, take all of these people's land
• 21:57
  and like, late. Stage Capitalism.
• 21:59
  Killing off people that have businesses that are getting in
• 22:03
  the way of their development and trying to, yeah, you know.
• 22:05
  Like I'm just going to murder people so they're too sad to
• 22:07
  fight the corporate beast. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:11
  I mean, that's like a pretty easy one.
• 22:12
  Also the way that the kids treat Bernie.
• 22:15
  Yeah, poor Bernie. She's got cute makeup and she
• 22:19
  tries to, she comes to the parties.
• 22:21
  She doesn't have to do that. She's trying to engage in the
• 22:23
  culture. Yeah, that, that's another
• 22:26
  thing. I'd say that my ugly is them
• 22:31
  giving Weenie a pink tracksuit and Jimmy a truck.
• 22:38
  How, how did they think about that and think that that was
• 22:41
  fair? Dad doesn't even her family is
• 22:44
  fucking shitty, honestly. I mean, they're kind of like, we
• 22:47
  get like a little window there where she's just happy to see
• 22:50
  them again. I guarantee you the next day
• 22:51
  shit falls apart again, she's not gonna get equal treatment.
• 22:54
  Yeah, well, she's just bidding her time until she gets out of
• 22:57
  town. Pretty much, I guess, yeah.
• 23:00
  But yeah, and he tries to spend a I was like, oh, you're my
• 23:02
  business partner. You need to have like a decent
• 23:04
  vehicle. Then don't do it at Christmas
• 23:06
  time. Make it like a business truck
• 23:08
  like. How about let him get his own
• 23:10
  fucking thing? If he's like doing Realty,
• 23:12
  that's not a poor man's business to be in.
• 23:15
  You make money doing that shit. Yeah, let him do it.
• 23:18
  So yeah, that's just that, that sense of imbalance.
• 23:25
  Yeah, it sucks. Yeah.
• 23:27
  OK, absurd. Yes, absurd.
• 23:30
  Well first of all, I guess since you brought up Bernie being at
• 23:33
  the parties, how the fuck did she get to the parties?
• 23:35
  Nobody has clearly invited her. How does she know where this
• 23:37
  person lives? I feel like it's kind of it.
• 23:42
  It seems like it's the Christmas Eve, like it's an annual
• 23:46
  tradition party. So like everybody knows about
• 23:48
  it. It was even a reference that
• 23:49
  like GAIL used to go to it when she was younger.
• 23:52
  So I think it's kind of like a town tradition for the younger
• 23:55
  kids. Isn't it at this one guy's
• 23:57
  house? It moves to the house the next
• 23:59
  year, but the first year it's at the park it's like at a place at
• 24:04
  the park. For real.
• 24:07
  Angel Park Party, and it's the Angel Park Massacre.
• 24:11
  I thought it was at the guy's house both times.
• 24:13
  OK, well, yeah, OK. I guess I was one.
• 24:17
  Other than that, Justin Long's character's opening when he's
• 24:20
  like his fucking promo that he has for being a realtor, He's
• 24:27
  just. Like he's a mayor too, I think.
• 24:29
  Not at that time it's revealed that he's married in the
• 24:31
  alternate timeline because she's shocked about it.
• 24:34
  But this whole thing is like, I'm the best, so fuck the rest.
• 24:38
  Tell him Henry sent you. It's so funny.
• 24:41
  Yeah. He's like, doing like, karate
• 24:42
  moves. And also the final thing, the
• 24:45
  amount of unmasking as we get in this movie, we get we get the
• 24:50
  killer unmasked like 3 or 4 times and it's just like, it
• 24:52
  keeps happening. And then to the point where it's
• 24:54
  like, oh, we're gonna mask and we get, oh, it's still the same
• 24:56
  guy. Yeah, like, OK.
• 24:58
  Like, yeah, I thought we were gonna like, uncover multiple
• 25:01
  angels or something. Yeah, but no.
• 25:02
  Oh, it's still Joel McHale. OK, there we go.
• 25:04
  We'll put that back. It's just kind of funny.
• 25:08
  My absurd is there's a moment where Joel McHale does.
• 25:11
  Yeah. And Drag Race fans will know.
• 25:15
  There was an episode where he was a guest judge and he was
• 25:18
  doing that and pissing off Michelle Visage and like that's
• 25:21
  all I could hear when he goes. That was pissing her off.
• 25:25
  Yeah. Wow, OK, just because of the way
• 25:27
  it sounds. It it's not the way dredging is
• 25:35
  normally done on Drag Race. I thought that before he invited
• 25:39
  Joe Mckell. Normally cheer like it's like a
• 25:42
  sporting event, which is what he was doing, but I kind of loved
• 25:45
  the enthusiasm of it and the fact that once he realized it
• 25:48
  was pissing her off, he leaned into it.
• 25:49
  No, that sounds fun. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:52
  So that was fun, but I also think the absurdity of like,
• 25:56
  again, bad bullying, be a battery bull.
• 26:00
  Like, well, don't be a bully, but if you're going to be a
• 26:02
  bully, be good at it. Like but instead they're just
• 26:05
  calling her a weirdo and throwing pretzels at her.
• 26:07
  Like, it's pretty lame. I think that's pretty efficient
• 26:11
  bullying, honestly. You you call them something
• 26:14
  that's like low effort and then you throw things at them.
• 26:17
  Message received. OK.
• 26:21
  OK. What are you rating this?
• 26:23
  I'd give this a 6 1/2. I think I'd give it an.
• 26:27
  Eight. OK, Yeah, why don't we?
• 26:29
  I like it. I like it a lot.
• 26:31
  No, I like it too. It's a good movie.
• 26:33
  It's just, you know it. It just is.
• 26:36
  OK. Yeah.
• 26:37
  Well, we have a starting average of 7.25.
• 26:39
  Nice. OK, so.
• 26:41
  Pretty solid. No ready.
• 26:43
  Let's get into it. So we start off with an ad for
• 26:46
  Waters Cove right here in Angel Falls.
• 26:49
  And kind of sells me. He is the best, so maybe we
• 26:53
  should fuck the rest. I mean, if Justin Long is going
• 26:55
  to be on screen doing like old karate moves and saying fuck the
• 26:59
  rest, tell him Henry sent you. I'm going to go there.
• 27:02
  Like, where's Henry? So oh, go.
• 27:07
  Ahead. Oh, I was gonna say.
• 27:07
  Then we cut to the annual tree lighting.
• 27:09
  Yeah. And he's in charge of it.
• 27:12
  And the whole family is excited with Christmas magic.
• 27:16
  Yay. We're gonna go home.
• 27:17
  It's Christmas Eve. Except they get stopped on the
• 27:19
  way home. It's Mr. Waters.
• 27:22
  He always takes David for Christmas Eve work.
• 27:27
  Yeah, basically there's one thing standing in the way of
• 27:32
  Waters Cove, and it's Roger Evans's house.
• 27:35
  And Judy points out that didn't the board vote that his house is
• 27:40
  a historic monument? And Henry goes almost.
• 27:45
  They almost voted for it. Yeah, so he's going to bring him
• 27:50
  over there to try and close the deal on Christmas Eve.
• 27:52
  So the other family, the rest of the family has to go home.
• 27:56
  Kind of sad that their dad's not going to be there.
• 27:58
  Yeah. So he goes over there.
• 28:00
  They're trying to convince Roger to do the sell.
• 28:04
  Dude, I love it because they're like, listen, this will be good
• 28:07
  money. You can pay off your debts.
• 28:08
  But I like him. He doesn't hold back.
• 28:11
  He's like, first of all, this house has been in my family for
• 28:12
  generations, and when I die, I'm going to pass it on to my
• 28:15
  granddaughter, Kara. Second of all, your dad fucking
• 28:19
  hated you, Henry, and he should have left the business to David,
• 28:21
  who was more of a son to him than you ever were.
• 28:23
  Third of all, fuck yeah. Pretty much Carrie comes down in
• 28:27
  this moment and she kind of interrupts it, and then she's
• 28:32
  going out to the party that you were talking about.
• 28:34
  It's the party that they have every Christmas Eve.
• 28:36
  The Angel Park party, she's going to go pick up Winnie first
• 28:41
  cuz they're BFFS. We do.
• 28:43
  Cut over to the crutler's house and Judy has gotten Henry a
• 28:46
  rainbow ornament for her gay son.
• 28:49
  Yeah, she's well-intentioned, sheltered mom ally ship.
• 28:56
  At least it's nice, you know what I mean?
• 28:58
  Like it's embracing intention, but they're like, oh God, you
• 29:02
  have to hang this up. Your mom fucking loves you.
• 29:04
  Get the fuck over it. Jesus Christ, What's the
• 29:07
  problem? Jesus, Like it could be worse.
• 29:10
  Be like you could get kicked out.
• 29:14
  I I just like that little moment.
• 29:16
  Yeah, it was nice. It was nice.
• 29:17
  But these kids? Also, the ants show up.
• 29:21
  GAIL and Karen. I love them.
• 29:23
  And they're talking about like, oh, we just visited Karen's
• 29:25
  parents, and we explained yet again that we're not roommates
• 29:27
  and are, in fact, married. Yeah, and they were roommates.
• 29:32
  Katherine Isabel I I keep getting surprised in her being
• 29:36
  in movies here lately. I'm not mad.
• 29:38
  Put Katherine Isabel in everything, even if it's like
• 29:41
  one line. She is such a sarcastic
• 29:44
  character in this movie and. I love it.
• 29:46
  She's a sarcastic character and everything to be here.
• 29:49
  I think maybe her least sarcastic is like America Mary.
• 29:52
  I wish that she would just do a straight line delivery once in
• 29:56
  this movie. Like everything is like a
• 29:58
  fucking joke to her in this movie.
• 30:00
  That is her role in this movie. Though Yeah, it is, yeah.
• 30:03
  So Kara comes and picks up Winnie.
• 30:06
  So they're getting ready to go out.
• 30:08
  She's like, hey, will you drive on the way home?
• 30:10
  I really need to get drunk. Henry Waters is harassing my
• 30:13
  grandpa again. And she's like, of course
• 30:17
  Jimmy's gonna meet them there. Yeah, he's gotta fix his hair.
• 30:21
  Speaking of harassing, we cut back over to Roger's house and
• 30:24
  he is just staring at the fire think and he hears a knock at
• 30:28
  the door. This is so cinematic, like him,
• 30:31
  just like at the mantle staring. At he knows that he's in the
• 30:34
  movie here he's like shit, I gotta get my pose right
• 30:38
  Chestnuts over an open fire and yeah gets to knock at the door
• 30:44
  goes to answer the door it's an Angel oh shit it's a snowman
• 30:48
  it's a snowman and. It like the way the snowman is
• 30:52
  built. This is God this is fucking
• 30:54
  theatrical. Honestly, if I get murdered, I
• 30:57
  hope that it's by somebody who's this can't be.
• 30:59
  That snowman knows it's in a movie, too.
• 31:01
  Snowman's like. It's my 15 minutes here, baby,
• 31:05
  Yeah. And then it gets completely
• 31:08
  destroyed because the Angel bursts through and slits Roger's
• 31:11
  throat. Do you think that the Angel was
• 31:13
  inside or on the other side of the snowman?
• 31:16
  I think it was on the other side.
• 31:17
  It was too small to fit him in there.
• 31:18
  Not that Justin Long is a huge man, but I think he was like,
• 31:22
  crouched. Also, you'd be like frozen if
• 31:24
  you're just like, hey, like, yeah, knock on the door, wait on
• 31:26
  this person. Like also takes time to build a
• 31:29
  snowman. Also it looked like a lighter
• 31:31
  weight cotton blend that the costume was made from, so not
• 31:36
  really suitable for cold wet weather.
• 31:39
  Too bad this person's all in the snow already.
• 31:43
  But not, like, in the snow. Yeah.
• 31:47
  So they get to the party. And Karen, when you're talking,
• 31:50
  Darla comes over and she is like a stereotypical kind of mean
• 31:55
  girl. She's drunk.
• 31:56
  She calls Barney weirdo, Robbie comes and joins them but he
• 32:03
  immediately wants to get up and like him and Darla are kind of
• 32:06
  looking at each other. This is just important for
• 32:08
  later. Yeah, they they both leave to go
• 32:10
  get another drink and. Jimmy leaves to go flirt and
• 32:16
  Kara says she's going to go look for Eddie.
• 32:19
  So Jimmy and the guy he's flirting with are outside and
• 32:23
  they're smooching and then Jimmy goes hey, let's move inside.
• 32:27
  I feel like we were being watched out here.
• 32:29
  But she is because we see the Angel out there in the trees.
• 32:31
  So good instincts. Jimmy, Kara and Eddie are having
• 32:36
  a cute little walk along this little bridge and it's got
• 32:39
  lights over it. And they kiss and she goes, EW,
• 32:42
  what did you eat before we kissed?
• 32:44
  And we we discover it's not like that he ate something, it's that
• 32:48
  he has been stabbed through the head.
• 32:50
  With a giant ass candy cane. And so she starts to run, get
• 32:55
  stabbed in the hand, but she fights him off, and she goes
• 32:57
  running. She gets to the building where
• 32:59
  the party's at, but she can't quite make it inside.
• 33:01
  Like, she's begging for somebody to open the door, but she gets
• 33:03
  massacred, like, in front of everybody, including Winnie, who
• 33:07
  runs outside and is like, you know, sobbing over her body,
• 33:11
  saying, like, please don't die. Please don't die.
• 33:13
  And then she is about to be attacked by the Angel.
• 33:17
  So she goes running off and she's like hiding behind trees.
• 33:21
  I mean, I don't really know what her end game is like this
• 33:23
  jumping from tree to tree business because you're not
• 33:26
  being very effective at hiding when you do that.
• 33:29
  Yeah, it's it's really bad. Like that snow is crunching.
• 33:33
  You're revealing yourself every time you jump out.
• 33:36
  It's just, it's not. And plus, the Angel is all in
• 33:38
  white, so he's blending in with the snow.
• 33:40
  Yeah, I mean, and he's like also right on top of her because he
• 33:43
  finds her immediately. Yeah, it's about to attack her.
• 33:45
  But then Jimmy comes out of nowhere, tackles him.
• 33:48
  They wrestle with All Star, by the way.
• 33:50
  Yeah, we haven't talked about that, but yeah.
• 33:53
  And then so he tackles the Angel.
• 33:54
  The Angel throws him against the tree, which kind of like, stumps
• 33:56
  him a little bit. But when he gets them up and
• 33:58
  they run together, at one point the Angel catches up and knocks
• 34:03
  Jimmy down and is getting really close to, like, stabbing him.
• 34:06
  You know, He's like leaning down with the knife.
• 34:09
  Jimmy's trying to hold him off. And then Winnie pops up from
• 34:11
  behind him with jumper cables and electrocutes him dead.
• 34:17
  Like completely dead. He's done.
• 34:18
  They take off the mask and it's Henry Waters and then title
• 34:22
  card. Yep, Yep, that's So what we got
• 34:25
  for the opening. So much has happened.
• 34:27
  What else can happen from here? Who knows?
• 34:30
  We do. Yeah, yeah, we open to a new
• 34:32
  promo, but this time it's the Carruthers, Carruthers,
• 34:36
  Carruthers, Carruthers. They say it.
• 34:39
  The Carruthers Times It's the Carruthers.
• 34:44
  Carruthers. Carruthers.
• 34:47
  They have their own Realty business now they've taken well,
• 34:50
  they've taken over the waters one and they're do you like.
• 34:54
  How they're wearing cheesy car salesman suits.
• 34:56
  Yeah, I mean, it's like a cheesy car salesman commercial,
• 34:59
  basically. This is the same thing for, I
• 35:01
  see for our Ford dealerships here in town on TV all the time.
• 35:05
  They pose together and it's like the whole family together and
• 35:08
  Winnie's watching and she's like, that's the best shot they
• 35:10
  got from this. She opens up her computer, she's
• 35:14
  got an e-mail and she has been rejected from the NYUBFA program
• 35:19
  and so she's just feeling real bad, didn't get into the program
• 35:23
  she wants to get into. She didn't even get wait listed,
• 35:27
  which is normally what you would get around this time of year for
• 35:30
  programs. Yeah, yeah, she's.
• 35:32
  Just outright, they said. Just no, you're not good.
• 35:35
  You can't. You can't even be helped.
• 35:36
  And then she looks up and she sees picture of Kara and she's
• 35:40
  just sad. They start to head out because
• 35:44
  it's. I assume it's time for the tree.
• 35:47
  Light, tree light. That's what I thought, Yeah.
• 35:48
  So they're heading downtown. Yeah, And her mom's asking about
• 35:53
  NYU, and she just kind of like, lies.
• 35:55
  And she was like, I haven't heard back yet.
• 35:57
  And then Jimmy goes, you forgot your camera.
• 35:58
  And she goes, no, I didn't. It's like none of them even
• 36:01
  realized that her camera got broken at the massacre last
• 36:03
  year. They haven't noticed it for the
• 36:04
  past year. She hasn't been taking pictures.
• 36:06
  They seem generally oblivious to the fact that she is in a real
• 36:10
  fucking bad head. Space, no.
• 36:11
  I thought I took it that she didn't take the camera because
• 36:15
  she's not feeling inspired anymore because she got
• 36:18
  rejected. No, her camera's broken.
• 36:21
  It's been a year, she could have gotten a new camera.
• 36:23
  No, they showed that it was still broken upstairs.
• 36:25
  Oh, really? Yeah, No, I guess I missed that
• 36:27
  too. I was also oblivious to it.
• 36:28
  Yeah, I'm no better than them. But you at least plugged into
• 36:32
  the fact that she's not inspired and not feeling good.
• 36:34
  Yeah, that's true. All right.
• 36:36
  Anyways, they're downtown. We didn't mention before, but
• 36:38
  Henry had a brother. His name is Buck and he was like
• 36:41
  a TikTok porn star type deal thing.
• 36:43
  Yeah, he's, he's a dumb dumb. Yeah, well, he confronts Winnie.
• 36:47
  He singles her out like, gets her by herself and pins her up
• 36:51
  against the. He's like a storefront.
• 36:53
  He's like, you killed my brother and I wish she'd been like he
• 36:56
  killed my friend and also several other people.
• 36:59
  I wish she had said that in response.
• 37:01
  Like he started it like. I think she did.
• 37:04
  I think she said like he like, like I had, like that night
• 37:08
  haunts me, like people died that night.
• 37:10
  Like what did you want me to do? Basically.
• 37:13
  And he's like, well, the whole town is happy he's gone.
• 37:15
  Or sure looks like your family's thriving.
• 37:18
  So yeah, so he's like I should they're.
• 37:20
  Not, they're not. Not, you know.
• 37:22
  Yeah, they definitely benefited from it, but I mean, the guy
• 37:24
  fucking tried to kill them, So what are you doing, you know?
• 37:28
  Anyways, he just storms off. He's mad.
• 37:31
  So they cut back to the house, the Carruthers house, Carruthers
• 37:34
  House Carruthers. Carpenters.
• 37:38
  They they're doing the tradition of A1 gift on Christmas Eve and
• 37:43
  when he gets a pink workout suit and David is so proud.
• 37:47
  He's like nobody else had pink. It's got your initial on it.
• 37:52
  They make her go try it on. And I read some discussion about
• 37:54
  this. This is a call back to a
• 37:56
  Christmas story. Absolutely.
• 37:58
  Put on the pink Bunny. Yeah, that was very, I thought
• 38:02
  it was very obvious. I didn't catch the connection,
• 38:05
  really. Yeah.
• 38:05
  But I think that's really cute that they made her do that.
• 38:08
  Yeah. And I also like the ants for
• 38:10
  both. Like you don't give a woman a a
• 38:13
  gift that's related to her body, like workout outfit specifically
• 38:17
  and they're saying you need it like it's something you need.
• 38:20
  So does that mean no clothing for gifts?
• 38:23
  It's more the fact that it's very specifically like workout
• 38:26
  gear when it doesn't seem like working out is Winnie's thing.
• 38:29
  OK, it's. Not like she was like man, I
• 38:31
  would love some like Lululemon leggings, you know, like.
• 38:36
  I gotcha. That makes sense.
• 38:37
  Yeah. So she goes to try it on, then
• 38:40
  comes back and she's like, hey, everybody got it on, but
• 38:43
  everybody's gone. Except for Judy, who's.
• 38:45
  Pouring a drink. Yeah.
• 38:47
  And she's like, where'd everybody go?
• 38:48
  And she's like, well, your brother just got a brand new
• 38:51
  truck. So she goes out into the
• 38:54
  driveway. He's out there freaking out
• 38:56
  about it. They're spazzing out about this
• 38:57
  gigantic ass truck and she just flips at them.
• 39:02
  Yeah, she's talking about how everybody's ignored all of the
• 39:05
  shit that happened last year. She has been traumatized.
• 39:07
  Nobody has been acknowledging it.
• 39:09
  And also this isn't a fair gift. Like, yeah, it's a fucking truck
• 39:13
  and she got a fucking tracksuit. Yeah, and then David's like it's
• 39:16
  time that you just let the past go.
• 39:19
  Like, why would you want to relive, relive that night?
• 39:21
  Like it's not a fucking option, man.
• 39:24
  Like it? Yeah, it's fucking trauma.
• 39:26
  Hey, do you remember that? It's more like, man, I can't let
• 39:29
  go of this. Also, it's the first this
• 39:30
  Christmas since this has happened.
• 39:32
  It's a major anniversary of this happening.
• 39:34
  Also, the Evans family was very close to the Crowther's family.
• 39:38
  They used to come over for Christmas breakfast every year.
• 39:41
  Like this is going to be the first year that it's not
• 39:43
  happening. It's a it's a big deal.
• 39:45
  Yeah, this family sucks, honestly.
• 39:49
  She gets a notification that new Christmas Eve party will be at
• 39:52
  Robbie's house. So when he goes over there and
• 39:55
  she's looking for him and Bernie's like, Oh yeah, I saw
• 39:58
  him out in the yard. And she's like, OK, And then
• 40:01
  somebody else is like, weirdo, you're lying.
• 40:03
  He's in the laundry room. And she's like, why are you
• 40:06
  lying about it? She goes, I'm not.
• 40:07
  It's not. And so she goes upstairs, and
• 40:10
  she finds Robbie and Darla making out.
• 40:13
  And he's like, well, we've been doing this for the past year.
• 40:16
  It's not like you've been exactly present.
• 40:19
  They started cheating immediately.
• 40:21
  It sounds like the cheating started before the massacre
• 40:23
  happened. Yeah, I think so.
• 40:25
  I mean it kind of was implied in like a previous year scene.
• 40:28
  Yeah, yeah. So she storms out of the house,
• 40:32
  she goes to take a walk and she ends up at like a boardwalk type
• 40:35
  deal. And then she wokes up into the
• 40:37
  sky and sees Aurora borealis, located in Principal Seymour
• 40:43
  Skinner's kitchen. Yes, can I see?
• 40:48
  No. And she's like, no best friend,
• 40:53
  no school, no boyfriend. Everybody would be better off if
• 40:57
  I was never born and then the lights get really bright and
• 41:01
  then go out. Can I just say I meme that thing
• 41:04
  with my friends back in middle school before that became a
• 41:07
  thing, we were already we were ahead of the curve on that joke.
• 41:11
  Oh, you're. Very cool, honey.
• 41:12
  Thank you. Yes, yes.
• 41:18
  OK, sorry. Let's continue.
• 41:20
  So So she goes to ask, like the other pedestrians she had seen
• 41:24
  on her way there, like if they knew what happened with the
• 41:26
  lights. And she finds one of them with a
• 41:29
  knife sticking out of his face. So that's not great.
• 41:33
  And it's the Angel. And he's running and chasing
• 41:35
  after her. And she finds the sheriff's
• 41:38
  truck, bust the window and calls on to the radio.
• 41:40
  Buck pops up. He's the sheriff now.
• 41:43
  And he was like, and she was like trying to explain what
• 41:46
  happened. He goes, oh, the Angel, right?
• 41:48
  And she's like, what? Apparently it's the 27th strike
• 41:53
  of the Angel. Hold on, there's a great moment
• 41:56
  where like the crime scene texts are out there and they're like
• 42:00
  blocking off the scene. I love that.
• 42:01
  Yeah, he goes. Put up more caution tape.
• 42:04
  I just think people should be really cautious.
• 42:06
  Yeah, and bring out the K9 unit, you know, not because we need
• 42:09
  it, but I feel like it would help with the vibes, which is
• 42:13
  true. Like get the dogs out here.
• 42:14
  Let's make everybody feel good. Yeah, so he was being sheriff
• 42:18
  after a baby died. He was victim #5 and she goes,
• 42:20
  how many victims have there been?
• 42:21
  And he's like 2728 so far. It's about every two weeks or
• 42:25
  so. Henry is alive and he's the
• 42:30
  mayor now. So he's the one who appointed
• 42:31
  Buck Sheriff. So she runs home with all of
• 42:36
  this new information, sees mom. Mom is wasted.
• 42:40
  So drunk. Does not even acknowledge her
• 42:43
  and then she asks where dad or she asks her dad where Jimmy is.
• 42:47
  And David's like, who are you? And she's like, I'm looking for
• 42:49
  Jimmy. And I was like, who are you?
• 42:51
  Why are you looking for him? She goes because I need help
• 42:54
  from him. Yeah, I guess it's some kind of
• 42:56
  sick joke, which Can you imagine if like you are somebody and
• 42:59
  they like some random person stormed into your house asking
• 43:02
  where they are. Like who the fuck are you and
• 43:04
  why would you do this to me? Yeah, it's AII get their
• 43:08
  perspective from it that, you know, we're we're living with
• 43:11
  Winnie in this moment and she's not realized that they don't
• 43:14
  know who she is yet. So GAIL is the one that tells
• 43:17
  her that Jimmy's dead and David kicks her out.
• 43:20
  And so she's wandering around the town and she sees everything
• 43:24
  is owned by Henry Waters now. Also, they have an ornament on
• 43:28
  their tree of the Angel. I missed.
• 43:32
  That wait, is it their tree we see like a shot of like the
• 43:35
  Angel? I thought it was the town tree.
• 43:36
  It could be the town tree. I thought it was their tree.
• 43:38
  OK, yeah. So anyways, I thought it was
• 43:40
  interesting that they've made that an actual ornament.
• 43:42
  Like they are embracing this fucking killer as like a thing.
• 43:48
  That's interesting. Also Waterx Cove has gone
• 43:51
  through, is fully developed and already up and running.
• 43:54
  Yeah, so Winnie goes to the Christmas Eve party, which is
• 43:58
  very dark. Now we've got angry music.
• 44:01
  Playing it's a trap house, honestly, I guess, where people
• 44:05
  go to just like do drugs, like people are in their spray
• 44:08
  painting the house. They're just showing it no
• 44:09
  respect, Yeah. It's a.
• 44:12
  Yeah, her friend before Vicky, who was doing weed gummies with
• 44:14
  the guy, kind of harmless, you know?
• 44:17
  Now she's just straight up smoking crack with him.
• 44:19
  Yeah, it's like it's dark. And she talks to Bernie and
• 44:23
  Bernie like is friendly with her.
• 44:25
  And then when he's like, so you recognize me?
• 44:26
  She's no, but you're talking to me.
• 44:30
  She's like shown positive attention.
• 44:32
  It's new to her. And this is also, like, another
• 44:34
  funny moment because, like, Winnie's going on about how she
• 44:36
  doesn't exist, and she thinks she's either dead or invisible.
• 44:39
  And Winnie and Bernie's like, well, no, I recognize you.
• 44:43
  And she goes, oh, this is Robbie's house.
• 44:46
  And she goes, yeah, I know that. And she goes, one minute you're
• 44:48
  invisible, the next minute, you know whose house this is?
• 44:50
  It's like make up your mind. Because she like.
• 44:52
  Delivery is so perfect. Yeah, Oh my gosh.
• 44:54
  She's like going to all of her friends.
• 44:55
  She's like, hey, do you recognize?
• 44:57
  Do you know me? She's like, no, you know, like
• 45:00
  she says it to the other day. She's like, no, but I don't like
• 45:02
  to. Oh, gross.
• 45:03
  She's like goes back to the conversation.
• 45:05
  Yeah, and when he mentions Jimmy and Bernie's like, oh, this is a
• 45:09
  prank, right? Like, you're going to get me to
• 45:10
  freak out, and then everybody's going to point and laugh at me,
• 45:12
  right? Well, I'm not doing that.
• 45:15
  We come to Vicki and Pete, the drug dealer outside and they're
• 45:18
  looking at the lights and they're high, and then they
• 45:22
  start arguing about the murders because another one has
• 45:25
  happened. So Vicki like, storms off and
• 45:27
  goes inside and then Pete gets killed.
• 45:31
  He's the killer. Was just standing there
• 45:33
  underneath the light. He puts up a decent fight, but
• 45:36
  ultimately. Gets his capitated, yeah.
• 45:38
  Yeah, Inside, Vicki is throwing pretzels at Bernie, and Winnie
• 45:46
  is like, it's been a year since the massacre and the massacres
• 45:50
  have continued throughout, and you guys are having a party.
• 45:54
  There are all these murders, and you're still just being mean to
• 45:57
  Bernie. And so she takes Bernie and they
• 46:00
  leave. Yep man, as soon as they step
• 46:02
  out, Vicki also is back outside and she sees the body.
• 46:09
  They go to Bernie's and she says that she's alone at Christmas a
• 46:12
  lot because her mom is usually with whoever you know the flavor
• 46:16
  of the week is. Her dad left when she was
• 46:18
  younger and caught her when he caught her mom cheating.
• 46:21
  She shows some of her fashion design.
• 46:24
  She wants to go to NYU also. And Winnie, it was like, oh,
• 46:28
  yeah, I know. That was what I wanted to do.
• 46:30
  I got rejected. And she starts explaining her
• 46:32
  timeline of things where she had stopped the Angel Park massacre
• 46:36
  and it was Henry Waters, and she killed him.
• 46:38
  And nothing was like this back there.
• 46:41
  And so they're trying to figure out what they need to do.
• 46:44
  And she's like, I wasn't there to save Jimmy and so.
• 46:49
  Bernie reveals that she's been tracking this stuff the entire
• 46:52
  time. She reveals like a whole board
• 46:53
  with pins and everything, just like where she's been following
• 46:56
  all the murders. All the teens that were murdered
• 47:00
  were related to the business owners in town and their
• 47:03
  businesses died after their children were murdered.
• 47:06
  Fair. And Bernie starts to get kind of
• 47:10
  suspicious of Winnie this moment.
• 47:13
  She's like, you just showed up. And then there were more murders
• 47:17
  and Ding, Ding, here's another murderer from Pete at the party.
• 47:21
  And when he's like, but yeah, it was with you.
• 47:22
  She goes not the whole time. And then the Angel attacks
• 47:25
  through the window. She's like, OK, well, I guess
• 47:27
  perfect. You're cleared.
• 47:28
  Yeah. So she, like, actually takes up
• 47:31
  the Angel and then they just both run out.
• 47:34
  And I think that that was enough.
• 47:35
  That's all Bernie needed to know.
• 47:37
  Yeah, and Bernie's like you're George Bailey when he says, will
• 47:40
  you be my clearance? Yep.
• 47:41
  So they run off to the movies where what is playing Christmas
• 47:49
  Carol? Christmas Carol, Yeah.
• 47:51
  So cuz Bernie works there, so she's got the keys.
• 47:53
  So they sit up and they're just. It's a nice, nice night to just
• 47:57
  watch movies and sleep uncomfortably in old movie
• 48:01
  chairs. It seems like this is her
• 48:02
  tradition that she does. She goes there and just kind of
• 48:04
  like plays movies for herself. Yeah, Wendy wakes up in the
• 48:09
  morning and she doesn't know where Bernie is.
• 48:12
  Bernie has put together another research board and this time
• 48:15
  it's about Aurora borealis. And she said that there we
• 48:19
  shouldn't be able to see it. Sometimes it happens, but not
• 48:21
  typically in this geographical region.
• 48:25
  And she goes sometimes in some folklore or Aurora borealis is
• 48:28
  the spirit of a person who is violently murdered.
• 48:32
  And so they kind of pieced together that maybe this is
• 48:36
  Henry Waters spirit and kind of transported Winnie to this
• 48:40
  timeline where he wasn't murdered.
• 48:41
  And once the light fades, she's not going to be able to switch
• 48:43
  back to her universe. Right.
• 48:45
  Yeah, So they go to see her dad. Yes, so she's trying to figure
• 48:53
  out how they can get close enough to Henry Waters to
• 48:56
  complete the murder in this timeline.
• 48:58
  And they're like, we need to get close to him.
• 49:00
  He does like this naughty or nice event every year and
• 49:03
  Bernie's like you'll never be able to get up on the stage.
• 49:05
  And she goes, I know somebody who can get us there.
• 49:08
  So that's when they decide that they're going to go talk to
• 49:10
  David because he still works for Henry, Right?
• 49:12
  Right. And at first, David refuses to
• 49:14
  talk to her. GAIL opens the door, and she's
• 49:17
  intervening. And Winnie is, you know, trying
• 49:21
  to say all of these things about how she knows who these are.
• 49:23
  And she goes, well, how about you say something that isn't
• 49:26
  easily Googleable? And she says that one time you
• 49:29
  got your ass frozen to the sidewalk because you were an
• 49:31
  Aguilarion Thong to the Angel Park Christmas party in 1999.
• 49:36
  And she was like, I knew that song would bring people together
• 49:37
  someday. Come on in.
• 49:39
  Isn't it interesting that this movie just ignores the butterfly
• 49:41
  effect? Right.
• 49:42
  This one person actually had no impact on most of the shit that
• 49:46
  happened in the world. It's crazy.
• 49:49
  Yeah. Anyways.
• 49:51
  A lot happened in a year. Yeah, is really the amazing part
• 49:55
  of this. That's true.
• 49:57
  So she gets in, she gets she goes to see her dad and she
• 50:01
  convinces him to talk because she starts talking about how she
• 50:05
  knew Jimmy and she's actually bringing up things that he was
• 50:08
  there for too. So she he knows that she's like
• 50:11
  a real friend of his. They're crying and reminiscing
• 50:14
  and she goes and I want to take out the person who killed him
• 50:18
  and she goes. It was Henry Waters.
• 50:20
  And he's like, Henry Waters, my best friend, the person I worked
• 50:23
  for who paid for my son's funeral.
• 50:25
  Get out. Get out.
• 50:26
  You need to leave. And she's walking downstairs.
• 50:29
  She sees her mom, still very drunk this time being kissed by
• 50:32
  a random dude on the neck. And Gail's like, oh, yeah, she's
• 50:35
  got multiple side pieces. And Judy's, like, David isn't
• 50:38
  the same person anymore. He comes and goes at all hours
• 50:41
  of the night. That sound is her being murdered
• 50:45
  by the Angel. Yeah, because he's like storming
• 50:48
  out to go somewhere else again and then as burn or when he's
• 50:51
  about to leave, like she's getting killed.
• 50:53
  Yeah. And so is the side piece also.
• 50:56
  Yeah. Yeah, he he did.
• 50:57
  Yeah. So burning GAIL and Winnie, they
• 51:00
  run, they kind of end up upstairs and they knock the
• 51:02
  Angel down the stairs and it's stunned.
• 51:05
  He's stunned. So he's not moving.
• 51:07
  And they're like, OK, we got to climb over top of him.
• 51:09
  And this was a very specific scene that they referenced in
• 51:12
  that slash film interview of like the cop car scene, you
• 51:16
  know, when they're trying to like, climb out of the cop car
• 51:18
  over top of Ghostface. So they're trying to do this.
• 51:23
  Yeah. The entire time I was thinking,
• 51:24
  no, this is the time where you jump off the stairs and you like
• 51:28
  double like land on their face with your legs.
• 51:31
  You're boom. You might actually cave in their
• 51:33
  head, but they tried to kill you so I think it's fair game.
• 51:36
  Yeah, it's it's self-defense. I know.
• 51:40
  I know they have a whole other approach.
• 51:41
  They climb over them slowly, and then they're like, oh, wait,
• 51:44
  let's actually, let's touch his face.
• 51:47
  Like they go over there and lift up the mask and uh oh, it's Dad.
• 51:52
  And in that moment, he's about to attack.
• 51:55
  And so they run off to the theater.
• 51:58
  And GAIL is upset because she says Karen was killed over the
• 52:03
  summer and now her sister Judy and Karen's print shop got taken
• 52:09
  over by Henry Waters after she was killed.
• 52:12
  So that was why she was murdered.
• 52:15
  They. They believe that Henry is
• 52:18
  controlling the dad, making him do all the killings.
• 52:20
  It feels very, I'm not sure at this point.
• 52:22
  It feels very metaphorical. Yeah.
• 52:24
  He's breaking these people. He's breaking their spirits.
• 52:27
  And then he's like basically controlling them because they
• 52:29
  have no will to fight him, right?
• 52:31
  So he just, they just do whatever he says so.
• 52:34
  Now plan is to kill the dad. They're gonna kill Dad now too.
• 52:37
  Yeah, and they're kind of, they kind of talk to him and they're
• 52:40
  like, listen, we get that it's really fucked up, but also like,
• 52:43
  this isn't really your timeline. Yeah, also, so just found out
• 52:47
  that he's a killer, so yeah, it's fair game at this.
• 52:50
  Point Yeah, the lights fading outside so we gotta figure this
• 52:53
  shit out. So they stage a set up at the
• 52:57
  theater and they got on the marquee saying that they are
• 52:59
  there. Yeah, advertising it.
• 53:02
  So they are there, they've got the movie going, they're waiting
• 53:05
  for things to get going and then somebody enters and it's Robbie
• 53:09
  and Darla. They apparently come here every
• 53:11
  year. It's their Christmas Eve
• 53:13
  transition. It's they got together on
• 53:15
  Christmas Eve. It's their third anniversary or
• 53:17
  their third adversary. Barf.
• 53:19
  Gross. It's sweet that they do this so.
• 53:22
  It's gross to say third adversary. 3rd adversary.
• 53:25
  It's gross. Yeah, so they are there.
• 53:28
  They're just gonna hang around and watch a movie while they're
• 53:31
  like, planning this murder. I like what if the murder had
• 53:35
  gone according to plan? They just like they don't.
• 53:38
  Keep watching the movie. Oh, shit.
• 53:40
  And then just, yeah, just keep watching the movie, yeah.
• 53:42
  So at one point we do see. GAIL goes out into the.
• 53:46
  Lobby, Yeah. And they they have to reset
• 53:48
  everything because they had thought Robbie and Darla were
• 53:50
  the killers. Yeah.
• 53:51
  So GAIL goes out to take care of business, and then she comes
• 53:55
  back in through the doors being stabbed.
• 53:58
  She's dead. I don't like that.
• 54:00
  I'm sad. Then the power goes out and
• 54:04
  Winnie finds a camera like a flash camera and she's using the
• 54:07
  flash to see what's happening. And in the flashes we see Robbie
• 54:11
  and Darla both get murdered. Rob Burnie goes and she gets the
• 54:17
  lights on again and Winnie is like running through the theater
• 54:19
  and when she's on the stairs she ends up stabbing the Angel slash
• 54:23
  David. And so her and her and Bernie,
• 54:26
  they walked to the pier. It's time for another unmasking
• 54:30
  though cuz we gotta check to see who the killer is again this
• 54:34
  time and it is dad. So dad is dead.
• 54:37
  So Bernie tells Wendy that this is This would have been her last
• 54:44
  Christmas, but spending it with her and feeling like she
• 54:48
  mattered made such a big difference.
• 54:49
  Which is, it's heavy, but it's also such a real thing.
• 54:57
  And I like the way the movie approached this, and especially
• 55:01
  with when you saying, hey, you matter, you're important, and
• 55:05
  you need to hang on. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a
• 55:08
  deep moment and I'm glad that they were able to have that
• 55:11
  moment together. But as they're having that
• 55:13
  moment, they can hear Henry over speakers doing his naughty or
• 55:17
  nice event. Yes, so Winnie, she asked for
• 55:21
  her life back and it doesn't happen.
• 55:23
  So she's like, I know what we got to do.
• 55:25
  So they go over to the event. Buck is on stage.
• 55:28
  He's being. Being he's getting his thing.
• 55:32
  Is he naughty or nice? He's been naughty.
• 55:35
  Yes, he put in for a transfer to another city.
• 55:37
  What's so wrong with that? Why does he have to stick?
• 55:40
  Because he's like a puppet. He's a puppet and also I'm
• 55:43
  pretty sure he's not in any way qualified to be a police
• 55:45
  officer. No, but most start.
• 55:49
  But I don't think he even went through police Academy or
• 55:51
  anything. Sheriff is an elected position.
• 55:54
  Yeah, but I think you still have to be a cop first, don't you?
• 55:58
  Dude, look at our fucking politics.
• 56:00
  That's true. You don't have to have any
• 56:02
  experience for Sheriff. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:05
  You just have to be related to our friends with the right
• 56:07
  person. So anyways, yeah, he is.
• 56:10
  Just like he stabs him on stage in front of.
• 56:12
  Everybody and nobody reacts. And Bernie and Winnie are like
• 56:17
  freaking out in the crowd. And he's like, let's bring these
• 56:20
  two, let's bring the Point and the outsider up on the stage.
• 56:23
  Yeah, come on. So they go up there and they
• 56:27
  confront Henry about him being the killer.
• 56:31
  Henry says something to the effect of, hi, Bernie, how's
• 56:35
  your mom doing? And when he's like, you're the
• 56:37
  reason that her dad left, she's like, you ruined her life.
• 56:41
  And they're kind of getting into a shouting match and a shoving
• 56:44
  match. And they push him into the
• 56:46
  crowd. And the crowd for a minute
• 56:47
  starts to converge on him. But then it seems like they lift
• 56:49
  him back up on the stage. He's a little banged up.
• 56:52
  I don't know what happened. There.
• 56:53
  Yeah, this again. This whole last few scenes are
• 56:58
  very hectic. It's weird, yeah.
• 57:01
  Yeah, so they end up they're kind of fighting.
• 57:05
  And when he ends up stabbing him and when he's stabbed, the group
• 57:11
  hypnosis ends and everybody is like out of his spell and
• 57:16
  they're all angry. And then guess what?
• 57:18
  The lights get really bright and Winnie and burning kiss right
• 57:21
  before Vade de Black. And Winnie wakes up back in her
• 57:25
  own universe and she goes downstairs.
• 57:28
  She's just so happy to see her family.
• 57:31
  They give her a new camera. My question is, when did they go
• 57:34
  and get that? Cause clearly they didn't have a
• 57:36
  thoughtful gift ready for her last night.
• 57:40
  So what all night store did they go and find this Fuji film for
• 57:43
  her? To be fair, she didn't get she
• 57:47
  got one present open. Maybe that was her Christmas Day
• 57:49
  present. Maybe.
• 57:52
  Because this is Christmas Day. I don't buy it.
• 57:54
  Maybe they were like, you know what, you're right.
• 57:56
  We got him a fucking truck. Like, let's go get a camera.
• 57:59
  I feel like they drove to the next town over phone and all
• 58:01
  night like Walmart or something and they're like camera.
• 58:05
  What brand does she like? Who cares?
• 58:07
  Let's get this. One, do you know anything about
• 58:09
  cameras? No.
• 58:09
  What's Just give me a camera. Yeah, OK.
• 58:12
  It's probably a on. The cheaper side, if you can, we
• 58:14
  just bought her some trucks so we've it's that was expensive.
• 58:17
  Make it look bad, yeah. Yeah, So she apologizes for her
• 58:24
  reaction. And they're like, no, we're
• 58:25
  sorry that we haven't let you heal.
• 58:28
  And they're about to start opening presents.
• 58:30
  And then she remembers Bernie, and she remembers what Bernie
• 58:33
  was going to do in the other timeline.
• 58:35
  And she's worried that this timelines Bernie is in the same
• 58:38
  kind of situation. So she runs over to her house.
• 58:41
  On the way, she runs into Robbie and Darla, and they're like.
• 58:44
  And she goes, no, you guys are cute together.
• 58:45
  You want together. Bye.
• 58:47
  And she keeps running. She gets to Bernie's house, and
• 58:49
  Bernie opens the door and she's, like, staring at her and she's,
• 58:53
  what are you doing here? And then when he's like, please,
• 58:55
  Bernie, you matter. And then Bernie smiles, and she
• 58:57
  goes, You remember? So, Twist, they were both
• 59:00
  transported to that other timeline and both needed to get
• 59:04
  back. So they were each other's George
• 59:05
  Bailey's and clearances. They were both George Bailey and
• 59:08
  they were both clearance. Yeah.
• 59:10
  So weird, confusing, yeah. Was it the Bernie from that
• 59:15
  universe that got brought over? Or was that Bernie from the
• 59:17
  original universe also? Like she just brought that
• 59:21
  Bernie with her. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure,
• 59:24
  because in clearly in the other universe, everybody knew who
• 59:26
  Bernie was. So what was the other Bernie?
• 59:28
  Did they spot Bernie's that Bernie's probably miserable over
• 59:32
  in the other universe? Was this weekend at Bernie's?
• 59:35
  Was this Bernie's weekend? We'll never know.
• 59:39
  We won't. I don't think so.
• 59:40
  Maybe that's our sequel, Weekend at Bernie's.
• 59:43
  We're gonna Bernie's. 3. Yeah.
• 59:45
  Just probably a third one maybe. Yeah, whatever.
• 59:48
  That's the end of the movie. Yeah, They're together.
• 59:51
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 59:53
  All right. I still think it's a sweet
• 59:55
  movie. I think it's funny, I think it's
• 59:57
  a fun slasher, and I'm gonna keep it in an 8.
• 59:59
  I'll give it a seven. OK?
• 1:00:00
  Yeah, it was a good movie. So our ending average is 7.5.
• 1:00:05
  No calm Talia. She was.
• 1:00:08
  She was pretty sleepy. Wait, shouldn't we do changes
• 1:00:10
  first? Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  What changes would you make? Sorry.
• 1:00:13
  Well, I would change the ending. I mean, like how it all just
• 1:00:16
  wraps up. It was just kind of bullshit.
• 1:00:19
  I don't know, like it's you can this movie, like it had like a
• 1:00:24
  small ass, like just accept that time travel will happen and that
• 1:00:28
  that's cool, you know, and then like, we'll make everything else
• 1:00:31
  grounded. But hold on.
• 1:00:32
  We're just going to do some of this.
• 1:00:34
  Yeah, We're we don't know what else to do, so let's just do
• 1:00:37
  this. It's sloppy.
• 1:00:39
  Yeah, It's just it wasn't an effective way to close out the
• 1:00:43
  whole thing. I don't know he it could have
• 1:00:45
  been a completely better ending. It just I like when she goes
• 1:00:49
  back to the timeline and things are good there.
• 1:00:51
  That was a good way. But just the build up, the third
• 1:00:54
  act, the finale, just. Yeah, it didn't quite stick the
• 1:00:56
  landing. No, it it took one giant step
• 1:00:59
  out of bounds. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:01:01
  So OK, now what is how you think?
• 1:01:04
  Talia, honestly, like, she had been pretty active and tantrumy
• 1:01:08
  through the movie before this. And so when this movie started,
• 1:01:10
  she was pretty sleepy. Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  And she was like, I don't like time travel movie guys.
• 1:01:14
  They confuse me. How many Bernie's were there?
• 1:01:18
  I don't know what's going on. This makes me sad.
• 1:01:21
  Angels are supposed to be good. I am an Angel, for example, and
• 1:01:24
  I've never murdered anyone. So I think Talia was just kind
• 1:01:27
  of like mid on this movie. Yeah, she's like, is that
• 1:01:30
  Ghostface? I think that's Ghostface.
• 1:01:32
  So I think she'd give this a 6.5 because she your initial rating.
• 1:01:36
  6.5 is not being mid on a movie that's being like that's a good
• 1:01:40
  movie out of time. 6 is good. It's mid. 5 is mid.
• 1:01:46
  Whatever Zoe, who is her ultimate warrior?
• 1:01:50
  Zoe's ultimate warrior. I Buck because of, like, how he
• 1:01:57
  handled the crime scene. Like, you know, get tape around
• 1:02:01
  here. Yeah, like, give me a dog over
• 1:02:02
  here too. Like, let's play, you know,
• 1:02:04
  make. This interesting?
• 1:02:05
  Yeah, OK, I like that. That's a that's a solid warrior.
• 1:02:08
  OK, But now that we know who's Zoe related to, who did you
• 1:02:13
  relate to? If you have yours ready, feel
• 1:02:15
  free to go because I'm gonna think on.
• 1:02:17
  It I'm GAIL. I am the sarcastic aunt.
• 1:02:20
  That's me. That's my role in life.
• 1:02:22
  I've accepted it. That's fair.
• 1:02:24
  OK, I'll relate to Buck for wanting the good vibes.
• 1:02:30
  If I were like a sheriff and I had that ability, I'd have
• 1:02:34
  canines on all crime scenes. It doesn't matter what it is.
• 1:02:37
  I just want like dogs there. As you're like, they're sniffing
• 1:02:40
  around, like you're scratching them behind the ears.
• 1:02:42
  They're like, they're like, Sir, Sir, we're working.
• 1:02:45
  Yeah, yeah. Your job is to be my friend.
• 1:02:48
  I'd be Michael. Scratching them.
• 1:02:51
  The great thing about coworkers is that they're built in fronts.
• 1:02:53
  Yeah, and that's why the canine unit comes to every crime scene.
• 1:02:58
  All right, cool. Well, that's that's got that so.
• 1:03:01
  All right, dream sequel. Yeah, Dream sequel.
• 1:03:05
  OK. So we cut to the next Christmas.
• 1:03:08
  We catch up with them. Maybe this time the Angel killer
• 1:03:12
  is Buck and he's trying to get revenge, but he's not very good
• 1:03:15
  at it. Do you think that they so like
• 1:03:17
  will again stick with the theme of revealing the killer?
• 1:03:20
  Yes, because I think what's going to happen is he's not
• 1:03:22
  going to be very good at it, and he's going to be sitting in the
• 1:03:25
  jail cell and he's going to be sad how he should have never
• 1:03:28
  been born. And then he looks outside the
• 1:03:30
  jail cell window, and there's the Aurora borealis.
• 1:03:32
  Who's the vengeful soul in that situation?
• 1:03:35
  He like he killed one person. That's God damn it.
• 1:03:38
  I actually got killed by this guy.
• 1:03:39
  It's him, Yeah, yes, I like that.
• 1:03:41
  The 1st of this area and I was like this Buck Buck.
• 1:03:44
  Buck is it's Winnie. Like Buck is the one that killed
• 1:03:48
  me. So then like he's transported to
• 1:03:51
  a reality with Winnie. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:03:53
  Yeah, it. Could be fun.
• 1:03:54
  Yeah. OK, cool.
• 1:03:55
  Let's do that. That's fun.
• 1:04:00
  OK, tagline. Tagline Hark, the Herald Angel
• 1:04:05
  screams. I was gonna say angels we have
• 1:04:08
  heard on high rises because this guy's all about building
• 1:04:15
  developments. I like yours, that's a good one.
• 1:04:18
  OK, OK, OK, cool. Then they're also like putting
• 1:04:21
  this Angel on top of everything in this town.
• 1:04:23
  Yeah, right. You got a review for us?
• 1:04:25
  I do have a review for us and I knew that we were both pretty
• 1:04:28
  positive about it cuz I remember us enjoying it when we saw it in
• 1:04:31
  theaters last year. So I found a negative review and
• 1:04:36
  it says. Wow, great review.
• 1:04:39
  Do you? Want to know how they spell that
• 1:04:42
  phonetically? Is that how you pronounce career
• 1:04:46
  of this? The first one of these types of
• 1:04:50
  films to get it badly wrong. I've been really enjoying this
• 1:04:53
  horror trend lately of a whodunit slasher with a creative
• 1:04:56
  twist. Every one of them I've seen so
• 1:04:57
  far has been really enjoyable so I had high hopes for It's a
• 1:05:00
  Wonderful Knife. Sadly this was the first one to
• 1:05:02
  get it wrong in my opinion. I'd hoped for a really clever
• 1:05:05
  story where the search for the identity of the killer would
• 1:05:07
  coincide with the main character doing her alternative universe
• 1:05:10
  thing. This was not really the case.
• 1:05:13
  It's a very mucky story and often unclear what exactly is
• 1:05:16
  happening and what the characters motives are.
• 1:05:18
  It was not the story I wanted to see.
• 1:05:20
  The other big problem is that the characters were not likeable
• 1:05:23
  enough. All the other films like this
• 1:05:25
  have had really likeable characters, particularly in the
• 1:05:28
  lead role, and it's really easy to get behind them and follow
• 1:05:30
  their journey. That was not the case here.
• 1:05:32
  This film goes for some laughs but is really funny.
• 1:05:35
  The killer is kind of menacing that the characters are so flat
• 1:05:37
  and unfleshed out that it sucks a lot of the tension out of the
• 1:05:40
  kills. So the film is also really
• 1:05:42
  scary. None of the characters ever seem
• 1:05:44
  to have proper emotional reaction to the things that
• 1:05:46
  happen either. All in all the films, one was a
• 1:05:48
  disappointment. 4 out of 10. You know, I'll give them some
• 1:05:53
  credit like I they aren't the most fleshed out characters.
• 1:05:57
  I feel like cartoon you're not to be a movie Secret Santa maybe
• 1:06:00
  fleshed out their characters better than this thing to, you
• 1:06:04
  know. Yeah, like.
• 1:06:07
  There's no mystery really for this movie either.
• 1:06:10
  So much of Winnie's character is grief, yeah, that we don't get a
• 1:06:15
  sense of her as a person. Like, she seems really cute and
• 1:06:17
  joyful at the beginning, but everything happens to her so
• 1:06:21
  quickly that most of her character is that she is sad and
• 1:06:24
  she is angry, which is very warranted.
• 1:06:26
  But we didn't get enough time with like, the happy Winnie to
• 1:06:28
  really enjoy that contrast. We don't get a good baseline.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah, that's yeah, you're right. Because it's just that all the
• 1:06:34
  way through. And then when she's like super
• 1:06:36
  happy at the end of the movie, you know, it's like, I don't
• 1:06:39
  know, what were you like normal? Yeah.
• 1:06:41
  On a good day, yeah, 'cause like, even when she like, has an
• 1:06:43
  interaction with her friend, it's her friend, like having a
• 1:06:47
  crisis moment about somebody trying to buy their house.
• 1:06:49
  You know she doesn't have like a normal moment.
• 1:06:51
  Yeah. Like when you think to It's a
• 1:06:52
  wonderful life, you go with George Bailey throughout his
• 1:06:55
  life a little bit longer first before everything goes downhill.
• 1:06:59
  And so we understand why this is a crisis moment for him.
• 1:07:02
  And then when we see what the life would be like without him,
• 1:07:05
  we've had a sense of his family and friends, and we don't get
• 1:07:08
  that same example here. Yeah, I don't understand why she
• 1:07:14
  I think in his to be fair, I've never seen that movie, but I've
• 1:07:17
  got I got enough of an understanding he had like a
• 1:07:19
  better reason to be like nobody would probably wants me around
• 1:07:22
  here. So he had a really.
• 1:07:23
  Bad day and screwed up a lot of things and it was very much a
• 1:07:31
  permanent reaction to a temporary feeling type of thing.
• 1:07:34
  Same with her I guess. Yeah, like, Oh, my dad got a
• 1:07:38
  truck for my brother in a tracksuit for me, and my
• 1:07:40
  boyfriend's cheating on me. Except she wasn't gonna jump off
• 1:07:43
  the pier, is the thing. Like she's just looking up at.
• 1:07:46
  Yeah, like she's looking up at the sky.
• 1:07:47
  And she was sad and said, man, the world would be better off
• 1:07:51
  without me. And the universe was like fuck
• 1:07:53
  you. OK, bet.
• 1:07:55
  Let's give that a shot. Yeah, it's not bad.
• 1:08:01
  No, they didn't. Like, they didn't do a terrible
• 1:08:03
  job with the characters. So like, everybody's like, fun
• 1:08:06
  enough. And like, she's got a relatable
• 1:08:08
  enough story with like the whole like she's got like layers to
• 1:08:12
  her sadness, like being rejected from school and stuff too.
• 1:08:15
  You can reject, you can relate to what she's going through, and
• 1:08:17
  you do get to see her grow through all of this.
• 1:08:20
  So you're going on a journey with her and you're also getting
• 1:08:23
  to know Bernie along the way. And I think it's all really
• 1:08:25
  nice. So I don't agree with the part
• 1:08:28
  about her not being likable or somebody that you want to root
• 1:08:30
  for. I just feel like her growth
• 1:08:32
  didn't really matter much to the actual story.
• 1:08:34
  Like, it happened, but it wasn't the point to her getting out of
• 1:08:37
  there. Like, really, she just had to
• 1:08:39
  kill the guy. Yeah, that was really all it
• 1:08:41
  was, because she already had that revelation before she did
• 1:08:44
  that. And it wasn't enough.
• 1:08:46
  Yeah. OK, OK, well I guess let's check
• 1:08:50
  some more listener reviews. Almost threw my phone across the
• 1:08:53
  room. Check listener reviews or.
• 1:08:55
  No, yeah OK, let's see did anybody on Instagram say
• 1:09:02
  anything? No okay right.
• 1:09:04
  I got one on boots guy though. All right so Ward zombie says I
• 1:09:07
  love this horror take on a holiday classic.
• 1:09:09
  Good kills, wacky characters and ending is a real twist.
• 1:09:13
  Also, the killer design is pretty cool.
• 1:09:15
  The killer design is cool, although in some scenes the way
• 1:09:18
  the eyes are kind of like molded in.
• 1:09:20
  Do you remember when Snapchat had the face swap option?
• 1:09:22
  And sometimes she would swap them out and you'd see people
• 1:09:25
  swap their faces with their dogs noses?
• 1:09:27
  Oh God, yeah. And that's kind of what the mask
• 1:09:29
  would look like to me sometimes I can see.
• 1:09:31
  That yeah, I really do like the design of the killer.
• 1:09:33
  I mean it's very like Ghostface Ask, but it has enough going on
• 1:09:37
  to be it's own thing to stand out.
• 1:09:40
  Like the all why the mask is just like yeah.
• 1:09:42
  And I like the very hotel sensibility.
• 1:09:46
  Like you can bleach white, you know, So when he gets the blood
• 1:09:50
  on it, like, boom, bleach. Very good.
• 1:09:52
  Point OK, so all right, that was it.
• 1:09:55
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• 1:09:57
  So thanks Zombie for being the sole contributor for today, and
• 1:10:00
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• 1:10:03
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• 1:10:06
  And we get that if you didn't send a review because you
• 1:10:08
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• 1:10:11
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• 1:10:16
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• 1:10:18
  Yeah, check it out. It's 87 minutes and the time
• 1:10:22
  flies by. It's got a lot of really solid
• 1:10:24
  performances. I think it's a fun movie and
• 1:10:26
  it's worth a shot. Develop your own opinions on it.
• 1:10:29
  It's a good time. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:10:31
  All right, so we're moving on, moving on.
• 1:10:35
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• 1:10:40
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• 1:10:42
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• 1:10:47
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• 1:10:50
  We didn't consider that we would need time to watch the DVD and
• 1:10:55
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• 1:10:57
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• 1:11:02
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• 1:11:05
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• 1:11:08
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• 1:11:10
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• 1:11:13
  3 the week after. Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  So that is our current plan. And Cult of Chucky, that's a fun
• 1:11:19
  one. I personally really like it and
• 1:11:21
  I'm excited to talk about it. Right now.
• 1:11:24
  You can. It's rental only.
• 1:11:26
  Is it not even on shutter anymore?
• 1:11:27
  And it's not. Well, it might.
• 1:11:29
  Be on every shutter. Check and see if it's on Twitter
• 1:11:32
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• 1:11:33
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• 1:11:34
  The more you tell me to do that, the more I'm not gonna download.
• 1:11:36
  It well then you're not getting accurate information.
• 1:11:39
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• 1:11:40
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• 1:11:43
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• 1:11:47
  It's not streaming anywhere so it is rental only.
• 1:11:52
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• 1:11:55
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• 1:12:00
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• 1:12:05
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• 1:12:09
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• 1:12:11
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