Latest / Best of Business / Bruce Aitken: former CEO and president of Methanex voices support for Government's plan to invest more into gas
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- 0:16Speaker 2: The budget has put two hundred million dollars into gas exploration.
- 0:20Speaker 2: The money is going to be used to take a
- 0:21Speaker 2: ten to fifteen percent commercial steak in oil fields and
- 0:23Speaker 2: gas fields rather. Former CEO and president of method X
- 0:26Speaker 2: Bruce Aken is with us.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Hey, Bruce, are good to have some there, good evening.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Is it a good idea?
- 0:33Speaker 3: Yes? I think it is. Anything that encourages exploration for
- 0:35Speaker 3: natural gas is great. It's a real pity that the
- 0:39Speaker 3: government has to do it, but I think there's an
- 0:41Speaker 3: inevitability that you need to take some risk out of exploration.
- 0:47Speaker 2: I mean, obviously what it's going to well, the point
- 0:50Speaker 2: of the thing is to kind of put the governments
- 0:51Speaker 2: a bit of skin in the game and then encourage
- 0:54Speaker 2: the investors and say we're not going to get rid
- 0:55Speaker 2: of it because we now have money in it ourselves.
- 0:57Speaker 2: But surely it's only the things that we have money in, right.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Everything else is still at risk, isn't it.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Yes? It is. The big issue here is maintaining the market.
- 1:07Speaker 3: And when you back to where those plants in Taranniki
- 1:11Speaker 3: came from. They were created to create a market for
- 1:14Speaker 3: natural gas, and out of that then you get natural
- 1:17Speaker 3: gas for dairy natural gas for electricity generation, natural gas
- 1:23Speaker 3: that comes to our homes. So natural gas is an
- 1:25Speaker 3: incredibly useful product. You know, the rest of the world
- 1:29Speaker 3: is meeting their climate change challenges by getting out of
- 1:35Speaker 3: coal and internatural gas. What we've done in New Zeand
- 1:38Speaker 3: is exactly the opposite. We've put a big dampner on
- 1:42Speaker 3: natural gas exploration and importing record quanities of coal to
- 1:46Speaker 3: keep the lights on over winter. So it makes zero
- 1:49Speaker 3: sense what has happened over the last five years.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Would two hundred million dollars be enough because I would
- 1:54Speaker 2: have imagine that would be just enough to buy a ten
- 1:56Speaker 2: percent steak in perhaps one exploration, isn't it.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a lot of money in that industry,
- 2:03Speaker 3: and it could well be it's too little, too late,
- 2:05Speaker 3: But I think at least it's an effort to try
- 2:07Speaker 3: and address what is a I think is a desperate
- 2:10Speaker 3: problem for our country.
- 2:11Speaker 2: So we were talking. I was talking to somebody about
- 2:13Speaker 2: this in the budget lock up, and they the point
- 2:15Speaker 2: that they made is we haven't found any new gas
- 2:17Speaker 2: in twenty years and what gas we have found has
- 2:20Speaker 2: not turned out to be viable in terms of putting
- 2:22Speaker 2: your money into it.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Is that right, Well, that's not entirely true. I think
- 2:28Speaker 3: New Zealand is gas prone. So if you've drill enough holes,
- 2:30Speaker 3: you're going to find more gas. When you found big
- 2:33Speaker 3: fields like Maory, like Poakura, and there are other meaningful
- 2:37Speaker 3: fields around the Taraniki basin, there will be more gas
- 2:42Speaker 3: out there. It's just a matter of having a well
- 2:44Speaker 3: planned program over a number of years. And that's the
- 2:47Speaker 3: problem with this industry. There's a very long timelines. You
- 2:50Speaker 3: spend a lot of money and then you need a
- 2:53Speaker 3: market for the gas at the end of it. And
- 2:55Speaker 3: it's only when the government kind of steps in and
- 2:59Speaker 3: takes shoulders some of that risk that perhaps you can
- 3:02Speaker 3: tempt others back into that space.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Okay, So is this enough to tempt others back into
- 3:07Speaker 2: the space? Is this enough to get somebody to take
- 3:10Speaker 2: ninety percent with the government.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Well, I guess we'll find out like it probably isn't,
- 3:16Speaker 3: but it's better than nothing.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, thank you so much, Bruce, really appreciate it.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Bruce Acan, former CEO and president of method.
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