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INTERVIEW: AZ on His Truth Be Told, Nas Inspiration, 50 Years Of HipHop Celebration · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is Steen, j Envy, Charlamagne, the gud We are
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  Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building, legend the
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  Speaker 1: brother a Z. Yes, sir, welcome. Yes, first time I
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  Speaker 1: got to Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Too, right, first time?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you feeling black man?
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  Speaker 4: Feel juvenated? Evolved?
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  Speaker 2: But you put you put out music pretty frequently, though
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  Speaker 2: it's not like you you know, this is your first
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  Speaker 2: project in forever.
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  Speaker 4: Every couple of years it feel like you dropped something single.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think the last album was Door twenty one,
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  Speaker 4: but before that it was a singles.
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  Speaker 2: That's okay, got you got You, Got You, Got you
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  Speaker 2: got you. I always wanted to ask you, man, why
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  Speaker 2: you do something steal like that in belly Man. Why
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  Speaker 2: you ain't want them? Why you didn't want them that
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  Speaker 2: you saw some trouble coming.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, when they give you a script, you gotta follow
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  Speaker 4: the script. It's a script. In reality, I wouldn't even
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  Speaker 4: been on the block with the babe in reality. No
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  Speaker 4: way in the world I understand that one.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, for people that don't know, as I don't
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  Speaker 3: know the history of a zy let's gotart from the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Where is a zy from? And what got you into music?
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn?
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  Speaker 4: I'm a Brooklyn guy, of course, like everybody else. The
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  Speaker 4: sugar Hill Gang, you know, King Tim the third eighty
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  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty that dropped and hip hop turned to everybody out,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. As far as me getting on,
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  Speaker 4: that wasn't by design. It just happened, you know, just
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  Speaker 4: being at the right place, right time, meeting Niles on
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  Speaker 4: the phone and just happened.
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  Speaker 1: How did you how did you mean? Now? Is you
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  Speaker 1: from Brooklyn?
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  Speaker 3: He added that connect cause back then, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: was Burrow to Burrow, Brooklyn messed with Brooklyn, Queens mess
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  Speaker 3: with Queens.
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  Speaker 1: Harlem was with Harlem b XBX right.
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  Speaker 4: It was a homey thing, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: My homieknew was homeiere Like yo, my people's been in
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  Speaker 4: your people's old on the phone me actually, me and
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  Speaker 4: I was on the phone for a year first or
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  Speaker 4: even bomp Pez and I never asked to get on
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  Speaker 4: an album. I came to the studio, he invited me.
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  Speaker 4: I went a couple of times prior to were doing
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  Speaker 4: Lives of Bitch and just you know, just being supportive
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and we put on li
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  Speaker 4: Likes of Bitches. I saw rapping myself henew. I was
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  Speaker 4: going back and forth. But when he heard it, he
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  Speaker 4: was like, I need that, man, I need that on
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  Speaker 4: the joint. I'm thinking he's playing because I think halftime
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  Speaker 4: was out of it was it was crazy in the
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  Speaker 4: streets for him. I didn't have belief for myself at
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  Speaker 4: the time, you know what I mean, But that was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: So hopped on the joint and he kept it on
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  Speaker 4: the alb.
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't you have belief in yourself? Because it's like
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  Speaker 2: the first time we heard you on Life to Bitch,
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  Speaker 2: you like, who is that?
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  Speaker 4: Well? Who likes they voice? The first time to hear it?
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  Speaker 4: I mean when you was on air for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: you probably yeah, I was like, And then he was
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  Speaker 4: so critically claimed in the streets, no streets is it
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  Speaker 4: was like the changing of the guards at the time,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, he's just being cool, you know what.
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  Speaker 2: I could argue that Life's of Bitch is the best
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  Speaker 2: record on Illmatic. I can argue that when you think oftic,
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  Speaker 2: you think of that record.
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  Speaker 3: Man, looking at such a classic out that one.
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  Speaker 1: But then you got like you said halftime, it ain't
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  Speaker 1: hard to tell. You got great records.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Thing. I think that being the last song that they
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  Speaker 4: heard because his tape was so revered in the streets
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  Speaker 4: and it was everybody just had it before the album
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  Speaker 4: came out. So I think Lives of Bits was like
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  Speaker 4: the last song nobody heard or expected. So when they
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  Speaker 4: heard it, like because you feeling nobody could really out
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  Speaker 4: wrap this guy right here right when you're handing him.
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  Speaker 4: We first heard him when he put me on. I
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  Speaker 4: figured he's being nice.
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  Speaker 3: That the music in that that song was was I
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  Speaker 3: think something different. I mean, you think about it, right,
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  Speaker 3: y'all rapping it in, you hit the at the horns
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  Speaker 3: at the end, and the horns are going and you're
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  Speaker 3: riding through it, and it was just that project was
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  Speaker 3: just an amazing project.
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  Speaker 1: Hook in the world.
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  Speaker 2: You felt that if you was in a certain I agree, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean at that time, I guess it was a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the streets at that time, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and everybody was just trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: So so we was that hook.
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  Speaker 2: Me okay, okay, So he gave you the beat and
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  Speaker 2: you did diverse in the hooking it.
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  Speaker 4: No, he't give me. Actually, all LEAs was playing a
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  Speaker 4: beat and I was just in the studio and I
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  Speaker 4: heard it. I was in my own zone, you know,
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  Speaker 4: back in the days. Well, I don't know how I
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  Speaker 4: go now, I'm you know, everybody do studios different. But
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  Speaker 4: in the studio, everybody's in the studio, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. So these three over there smoking weed, them
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  Speaker 4: three over there drinking here, and see I'm finally over there.
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  Speaker 4: Just I'm in my own zone because I'm new. I'm
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  Speaker 4: from Brooklyn. The whole Queen's crew in there, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm okay, I'm just meeting everybody. But I was in
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  Speaker 4: my own zone and he heard it. He was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 4: spit that again. Get out ship shit. And then like
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  Speaker 4: going going to booth. You know, I spit it. I
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  Speaker 4: had the hook already, and then they heard it. They
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  Speaker 4: was like, Yo, that's it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It went crazy. I was like, I keep it. I
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  Speaker 4: still wasn't really, you know, but then he kept it
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  Speaker 4: on the album. Salute him.
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  Speaker 1: We did for the whole process of that album.
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  Speaker 3: No, not the probably half half and y'all recorded that.
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  Speaker 4: In the city or Queens or not in the city.
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  Speaker 1: They So now that record comes out right, and and
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  Speaker 1: people of like Charlamade said, who's that?
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  Speaker 4: Who's that?
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  Speaker 1: Who's that? And now when when did you get your deal?
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  Speaker 1: Because everybody thought you were from Harlem? Wow, Cause sugar Hill,
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  Speaker 1: because you.
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  Speaker 4: Cover you cover all this record, I couldn't correlate it,
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  Speaker 4: right because I didn't know nothing. I knew about Harlem.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know about you know what I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: whole situation. So sugar Hill was taking a bit of
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  Speaker 4: with the sweet right, So because l E. S bought
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  Speaker 4: to beat, you know what I'm saying, and he already
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  Speaker 4: kind of more or less had the hook in his head.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm trying to figure it out, right, because I
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  Speaker 4: got a couple of verses. I don't. I'm not in
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  Speaker 4: album mold. I'm trying to figure this whole shit out.
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  Speaker 4: Some people do. Buddy was you know, you know, got
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  Speaker 4: got the deals and know what it took, so I
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  Speaker 4: had I had to start from scratch. So but it's cool.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, but you're saying now.
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  Speaker 3: About people thought you were from Harlem because of the
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  Speaker 3: sugar Hill at first. So you did that record and
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  Speaker 3: then you put Miss Jones on the record, right, how
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  Speaker 3: do you come to miss Jones?
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  Speaker 1: During that time, At that time, we was.
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  Speaker 4: We were trying to figure out who's gonna sing on
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  Speaker 4: the hook? We had we had faith Evans, Like a
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  Speaker 4: couple of people auditioned and Jones you hit it, hit
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  Speaker 4: it so me being naives everything, I was just flown.
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  Speaker 4: I'm flowing, just trying to get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Man, that's crazy. I thought. I always thought assumed you
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  Speaker 2: were from Queens until I read up on your history
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  Speaker 2: back in the day and I'm like, oh, he's from Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 2: And now I think I'm like, well, damn, how come
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  Speaker 2: they don't mention a Z with the great Brooklyn mcs.
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  Speaker 2: Like whenever somebody be like who the nicest from Brooklyn,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of what Barrow you would be from, you'd be listed.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, my name come up. I mean I heard
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  Speaker 4: I heard a few times.
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  Speaker 2: Cool on. One of the greatest you talk about a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of this history was that you
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  Speaker 2: just letting people know like this is how I got on,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I've been doing, and this is why
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  Speaker 2: I wanted the best.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know what, I wanted to show another
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  Speaker 4: side of me, right, because most of the time I
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  Speaker 4: wrap up, there's a lot of Barados just really just
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  Speaker 4: spitting poetry, and you know, I just wanted to really
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  Speaker 4: take him, take him on a tour, off really the
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  Speaker 4: inception and what I've seen and what I've been through,
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  Speaker 4: just you know, to take the fans on, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a little journey with me. Yeah, I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 4: one of the greatest. Now I feel like that. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I'm good. I got enough albums under the belt,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I know the greats, I could dance with them,
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm tired of myself. One of the greats
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  Speaker 4: is the fact.
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  Speaker 3: One thing I would say about a z is coming
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  Speaker 3: up in New York. I would see as was always
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  Speaker 3: out right. I would see it at a function, a party,
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  Speaker 3: of club, whatever, or out and about. You would never
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  Speaker 3: with too many people.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe in the beginning, in the beginning, after a while,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, let me figure it out, right because
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  Speaker 4: early early in my career, Evem I folded. That was
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  Speaker 4: like a slap in the face because you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: learning the game as we go along. It's a music business, right,
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  Speaker 4: So now I'm like the forster kid in the business,
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  Speaker 4: right because I'm going from label to label to label,
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  Speaker 4: trying to figure it out. So you got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of luggage on your back. It's hard to really figure
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  Speaker 4: things out. Mix things a little more crazier, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean. So, yeah, I was shaving the weight
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  Speaker 4: as I was moving on with that.
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  Speaker 2: Just the thing to do back then though, because everybody
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  Speaker 2: had a big entourage. What you mean, Like as far
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  Speaker 2: as being with a bunch of different people, you know, when.
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  Speaker 4: You first coming in unknown game, you know, want to
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  Speaker 4: feel comfortable, right, you know, certain people do certain things
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  Speaker 4: that not necessarily you won't do, but that would do
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  Speaker 4: at the time, meaning like I know he ain't gonna
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  Speaker 4: by this time, you know what I mean. Sometimes you know,
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  Speaker 4: hold that down, you know what I'm saying, Or I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to hop out the car to go, you know,
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  Speaker 4: go see if I get in the club without staying
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  Speaker 4: on the line, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So you need people around for that. Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Andre three thousand recently said that at his age of
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  Speaker 2: forty eight, he feels like he has nothing to rap about.
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  Speaker 2: You clearly don't feel that way.
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean for me, everybody, everybody different, right For me,
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  Speaker 4: it feel like I'm representing for those that really never
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  Speaker 4: made it or see me made it in my mind.
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  Speaker 4: This is this is me in my mind, Like damn.
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  Speaker 4: You know a lot of homies lost their lives, a
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  Speaker 4: lot being locked up for long time. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just represented for them caving the torch. I probably
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  Speaker 4: had never stopped exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Also through your career, you guys create the firm. Ah, Now,
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  Speaker 3: how was the firm created? And how did you guys
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: decide to pick the members of the firm?
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: M how was the from I mean, me and Nas
• 9:07
  Speaker 4: had that idea for a while for my album for
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  Speaker 4: More Money, More Murder, And then from there we Fox.
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  Speaker 4: Well I knew Fox and she was just at that time,
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  Speaker 4: I think I don't I'm trying to remember how it
• 9:20
  Speaker 4: really happened, but I know Kim was doing her thing,
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  Speaker 4: and then I'm like, oh, I know somebody from Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 4: He was like cool. So then we bought Fox at
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  Speaker 4: the table and she was getting hot. I think she
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: did the jay Z joint. After that, it was was
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  Speaker 4: Nas brought Mega to the table and and and and
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: then you have it, and then all the other things
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: took place.
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  Speaker 1: Then y'all decided to do a project with Dre fat.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay with that part with nas messing with
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  Speaker 4: Dre and and it was written and he going double
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  Speaker 4: platinum made it that much easier, made it that much
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  Speaker 4: easier for the firm to happen. So uh gave it
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: a shot. You know, everybody was really successfully doing their
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  Speaker 4: own thing, you know what I mean, And and it
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: made it that that easier. But it was a lot
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: of cooks in the kitchen, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: like management and labels, and it was it became hectic
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: on that and really, you know, reap the fruits.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask because I felt like that project
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  Speaker 3: never got the lighted deserve, right y'all stepped outside the
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  Speaker 3: box with wire tap, y'all your firm bits. I seen
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: the video the other day, but I felt like with
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  Speaker 3: the amount of artists on there, when even when it
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: went from Megat to Nature and you and Fox and Noveg,
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: just felt like it should have been a bigger project.
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  Speaker 1: But it kind of felt like it just fizzled out.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was so much going on. It was
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: just so so much, man, you know, you got, like
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: I said, different labels, management contracts. It was just too much.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know what I mean, I guess after
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: they invested with so much, they figured like, all right,
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: this is enough. We we ain't gonna keep building the
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  Speaker 4: midnight oil on this.
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  Speaker 1: Who's idea was the wire tap?
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  Speaker 4: I would say, I would say it was it was
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  Speaker 4: I say it was mys I take that because me
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  Speaker 4: being in there and Dre doing the beat, I hopped
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: in there, got the zone I had. I had an idea,
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: but the NAS came up with like the hook. Yeah,
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: it was a good thing, man. That was good. Listen,
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  Speaker 4: they're still talking about it.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. I watched I watched y'all show time with the
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: Apollo performance pretty frequently. Y'all did affirmative action on showtime
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  Speaker 2: at the Apollo. Y'll start off sitting at the table.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember that night?
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  Speaker 4: Do I remember when I see it? I remember because
• 11:28
  Speaker 4: because when I was young, I remember seeing that on TV.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know why that stands out to me
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  Speaker 4: so much, And I was I watched. I was watching
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: it recently, like like like in the last few months.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're home on a Saturday, and that going
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: through YouTube's that firm performance up there.
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  Speaker 4: That was good. Well we perform phone.
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  Speaker 2: Tap, y'all did affirmative action, y'all sitting at the table
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  Speaker 2: now that on the white joint with the like.
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  Speaker 1: The Cowboy, I saw it. I saw it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the toll. We was on tour, the
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  Speaker 4: bad Boy tour, and that came out. A couple of
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: people was on a jay. So I'm with a toy.
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: We performed. We had a nice little toy. It was
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: nice day. Yeah, there's no way out to our think.
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  Speaker 4: I believe it was. There was a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: in there. I know for sure, Jay was on it.
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  Speaker 4: You remember anything very probably probably was jail for that.
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  Speaker 4: I know it was a couple of But that was
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  Speaker 4: a good tour, you know what I mean, for all
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  Speaker 4: of us being together and really rocking.
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  Speaker 2: That was good.
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  Speaker 3: How did you always stay out of the Your name
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  Speaker 3: was never mentioned in beef, no matter what beef happened,
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  Speaker 3: and since you were always cool with everybody, whether it
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: was Hove or or Nas and Kim.
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  Speaker 1: And and Fox and you were always but you would
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  Speaker 1: never mention in the beef. And you never jumped in.
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  Speaker 4: There's nothing to jump in, like it's rat Well, this
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  Speaker 4: is not, you know what I mean? So how many
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: people jumped in any of the nobody jumped in j
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: and Nas beef.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Then they try to jump the whole rocker Filler jumped
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  Speaker 1: in on.
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  Speaker 4: Nas is different right like when when he's when he attacking,
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: he won't tell you. He didn't say, Yo, I need help,
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: I need your comedy. He'll get low when you don't
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: hear for a moment, then he just you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean? So that was him. Kim and and Fox,
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: they you know, they females. They was doing what they
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  Speaker 4: was doing. I don't even think they went on wax.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: Did they a couple of times?
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  Speaker 2: Really little balls in there? Ain't crazy? You tied of
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  Speaker 2: this album? Truth be told? But what truth are you telling?
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  Speaker 4: My truth? You know, just just my truth on when
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  Speaker 4: I when I did one of the Greats, I felt
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: like I was just being personal. I took the title
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  Speaker 4: from there and all of the other songs were just
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  Speaker 4: me just expressing my my perspective, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, how'd you pick your features? And you only
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: got three features on the album? You got more MoU
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Fresh that Joe foul much, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean foul marks, stand up all day, Liverpool, Liverpool Monster.
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  Speaker 4: I actually he was on thirty six Seasons that ghosted.
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  Speaker 4: That was crazy. I always wanted to, you know, do
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  Speaker 4: a record with him. At the end of the day, Joe,
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: me and Joe, Joe was just there, Joe good brother,
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Actually from him giving me sneakers.
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: I kind of seen him back to back after that
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: at the nas uh the dinner thing, you know, I
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: just kept running into him. I'm like, okay, I got
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: I got Joe get busy and she was on a
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: show I spost have been on. I was like, who
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: is Moumo Fresh? And I looked up. She was crazy,
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: She's we got to do more music.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Her voice is phenomenal. Rap, Yeah, she said, her singing
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: and rapping. Yes, Yes, what's the show you're supposed to
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: be on? Excuse me, you said you said the show show.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know it was. It was a band
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: and they were going to be to do the show
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: and then they had hell on it and someone else.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: I just looked it up. I was like, oh, I'm
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: doing the show with you know, I mean trying to
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: follow up.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, what do you think was there any disconnect
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: with like you in the industry, like back in the nineties,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: because it feels like you were set up to like
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: win and win big. Yeah.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: But like I said, when when I and my folded,
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: everybody has a label that pushes them. I didn't have
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: a label at that time, so it was a rap
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: to me, right, So in my mind, I keep on going.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: So I'm going from from there to Virgin, from virgin
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: to Electure, from electure. The more like, I kept the
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: beauty of it. I've never been dropped, and the beauty
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: of it is they didn't try to put shelf me,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that was a great thing.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Were they making you make music that you necessarily didn't
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: want to make or.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: No, no, I have free will?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: It was just that, you know, if a label not
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: behind you at that time, now that we know the game,
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: you're not going. But so far, you know what I mean,
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: because it's a lot they got to put in market, promotion, radio,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: they're not one hundred percent behind you. Is nothing's happening.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: You think you get the credit acknowledgement that you put
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: in in all the records that you've done, that you deserve,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: especially this year with fifty years of hip hop, you
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: see all these celebrations that I'm thinking, I'm like Damn,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: I've never seen az mention in the majority of.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: M do I I never really thought about that either.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm here, you know, I'm in depending I've
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: been in the game. I think in due time, you know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: everything is surface. But I mean the true has they
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: know what it is, you know what I mean? They
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: know I'm sure no, But like I said, this is
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: a business. Let's not forget that, you know, And there's
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of things to go behind these names and
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: things that's being done. You know, a lot of sponsorship,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of people vouching for certain things. And it's cool.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure the lover is there within the
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: music business and outside, Like I'm kind of cool. Everybody
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: got a position to play. It was the end of
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: the day, you know what I'm saying, Like I stand
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: on it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: This cool.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: You know you got those there, you got those is
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: really there and you got those right here. You know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I figure, I'm right here, you know what I mean,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: And that's my position.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: There was always rumors that you and now I was
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: supposed to do a couple of albums together. Whatever happened
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: to that when we got the like's a bitch more money,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: more problems.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Listen, that's my brother. I ask that man, you know
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: what I mean. But I'm here, never be ready, I'm here.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Did he inspire you, you know with what he was
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: doing with hit Boy over the last few years.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, facts, facts, he definitely did. I mean to
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: see him constantly put music out and stay relevant and
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: and and and as as his pingt Sharper's like, it
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: inspires me, like, yeah, that's my boy, and that's what
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: made me just really of course had to put door
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: do too. But now just staying on it right now,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: ain't know like yoice, my last album were now we
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: ain't doing that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And where the visualizer? Where did that come from?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Visualizing the realisab You took it from there? Okay, okay,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: took it from there. They gave me that title.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So they started calling people, Wow, what what what? What
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: did what did you? What did you visualize for yourself
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: that that absolutely came true in this in this rap game.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: That's a little dream for the more peace that never
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: made it.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: That's it, that's it. That's all.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: I can't ask for too much. You know.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: The reason I like that mentality, man, is because you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: you got so many people like I want to be
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: a billionaire. I want to sell records. Yo, Sometimes just
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: being alive is enough, being able to represent for the
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: people who are not here.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: No more. Great, great expectations bring a great disappointment, you
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? So yeah, so have you ever
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: had any expectations for yourself in this game? In this game,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: just just just to stay relevant. And I think I'm
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: doing a good job, you know, and staying out the
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: way because it's you know, just be a lot. I
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: see a lot of things to use for marketing tools.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Like you know when I see things and I can't
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: really understand why it's going on, and you sit back, like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: see what's going on? So just the game. It's a
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: game of entertainment. I'm figuring out and it's it's late
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: in the game, but I get it now because I'm time,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Like why would you want to mess the money up?
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Why is God? I get it now, you know what
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I mean? Get the tools to make their ship move.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: You know. That's why I love when people our age
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: still make music. Right because I'm riding, I'm listening to
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: your album and you just have one line you was like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: get money, give back, stay out the way. I'm like, well,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that's my life.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I like.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: That's that something up everything, get money, get stay off
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Comes beautiful after that, and people in time, a few
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: people figured out and then some people regret it later,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: like I could you know what I man like? So yeah,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just enjoying the journey at the end
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: of the day. That's it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Well, the album is out right now, truth be told, sir,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And we appreciate you for joining us.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Brother, appreciate you for having me first time up here.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: And it was it was great to walk up the stairs.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: It was a good thing. That was good.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: It is the Brother Yes, yes, it's the Breakfast Club.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Good morning.