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355: Raccoon Hot Topics - Sam Altman, Robin McGraw, Sister Wives & Hayden Panettierre · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: Well, let's just roll right into it. Yeah. Start us
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Speaker 1: off with our first hot swap act.
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Speaker 2: So if you guys missed our last week's coverage of
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Speaker 2: these current events, we talked about a situation involving Sam Altman,
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Speaker 2: who is the CEO of OpenAI, which has created ChatGPT.
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Speaker 2: Sam Altman is a bad motherfucker. He's a piece of trash.
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Speaker 2: He is an alleged grapist. He is an alleged murderer.
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Speaker 2: He's a terrible person, objectively. Nobody likes him, especially people
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Speaker 2: in my generation, in the Gen Zers. Everyone fucking hates him.
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Speaker 1: And he..
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Speaker 2: Long story short, he reached out to a creator on Grindr,
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Speaker 2: which is the gay Tinder. He reached out to a
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Speaker 2: creator on Grindr wanting to hook up, wanting to thug.
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Speaker 2: And this creator blew it up on Instagram. It was awesome.
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Speaker 2: He basically trolled the fuck out of him, made fun
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Speaker 2: of him for it. OpenAI legal team reached out to
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Speaker 2: this creator trying to get him to remove all of
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Speaker 2: his posts. And this creator was like, no, not going
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Speaker 2: to do it unless you pay me $ 1 billion. And
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Speaker 2: he literally asked for that. It was really funny. And
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Speaker 2: we left off last week with the creator going on
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Speaker 2: a boba date with Sam Ullman because Sam Ullman himself.
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Speaker 2: reached out to him and wanted to meet him in person.
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Speaker 1: In Bali.
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Speaker 2: In Bali.
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Speaker 1: So presumably he was going to get on his PJ
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Speaker 1: and fly all the way to Bali to meet this
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Speaker 1: young man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to basically talk about the situation because allegedly
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Speaker 2: Sam Altman reached out to this creator and said that
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Speaker 2: he was embarrassed and he didn't want this to get
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Speaker 2: blown out of proportion. And since then, we've had a
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Speaker 2: few updates. One of them being that allegedly... sam altman
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Speaker 2: paid the press to basically say that this whole situation
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Speaker 2: that happened between sam and this creator by the name
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Speaker 2: of frosted jake was fake and frosted jake posted this
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Speaker 2: on instagram being like this is bs like this actually
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Speaker 2: happened to me like i have all the screenshots and
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Speaker 2: he does he posted all the screenshots you can go
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Speaker 2: on instagram you can watch our youtube video from last
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Speaker 2: week where we included the screenshots And now the press,
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Speaker 2: like if you Google it, it'll say..
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Speaker 1: Article after article after article.
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Speaker 2: That this never happened. This was fake. This is AI generated.
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Speaker 2: This is all BS. And that's stupid. But that's how
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Speaker 2: our press works. That's how our news works. It's trash.
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Speaker 2: And so since then, we left off with Jake getting
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Speaker 2: ready to go on this boba date with Sam Altman.
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Speaker 2: He gets ready and he gets ghosted. Sam Altman doesn't
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Speaker 2: show up at all.
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Speaker 1: Stood him up.
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Speaker 2: Completely.
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Speaker 1: And then..
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Speaker 2: Jake reached out to OpenAI's legal team because he had
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Speaker 2: their official email. Like he had a Zoom meeting with
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Speaker 2: this team and everything. Like this was all legit. He
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Speaker 2: reached out to them and they fucking blocked Jake's email.
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Speaker 2: He can't contact them. There's no way for him to contact.
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Speaker 2: And this is all after the press is now saying
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Speaker 2: that this whole situation is fake. So obviously this is sus.
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Speaker 2: This is Sam maybe allegedly trying to do damage control
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Speaker 2: and trying to pretend like this never happened. And so...
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Speaker 2: Boba never happened. Jake put all of this stuff in
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Speaker 2: like an Instagram highlight. So if anybody wants to go
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Speaker 2: see it, it's still on his Instagram page with everything
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Speaker 2: in chronological order. And then since then, apparently Sam Altman
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Speaker 2: has been blowing up Jake's phone because he got his
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Speaker 2: phone number without Jake's consent. Like Jake straight up did
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Speaker 2: not want to give him his phone number. And then
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Speaker 2: Sam allegedly found it anyway. And so Sam has been
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Speaker 2: blowing up his phone. Like I'm talking multiple calls, like
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Speaker 2: at least 15 calls. To Jake. And Jake's been ignoring them.
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Speaker 2: He made a little ballad on Instagram talking about this.
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Speaker 2: And he's like, this is so stupid. And that's kind
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Speaker 2: of the end of it that we have right now.
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Speaker 1: So let's kind of workshop this because why would he,
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Speaker 1: if he was really interested in getting to know Frosted Jake,
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Speaker 1: why would he ghost him, stand him up, and then
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Speaker 1: pursue him so hard? by spamming him with phone calls
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Speaker 1: as soon as he got back from Bali. Like that
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Speaker 1: just doesn't really make sense. And when you look at
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Speaker 1: the phone calls, I mean, you can see that Sam
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Speaker 1: Altman is calling from like different locations. He's traveling around
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Speaker 1: or whatever, but like he's trying to get in touch
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Speaker 1: with Jake. Like, so if you really do want to
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Speaker 1: connect with this young man, why didn't you go to
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Speaker 1: Bali or why didn't you at least, Tell him you
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Speaker 1: weren't going to show up. Like, what's going on? I'm
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Speaker 1: actually legitimately confused. And I will tell you, because after
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Speaker 1: you shared this with us last week, I went on
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Speaker 1: Instagram and I followed Frosted Jake. And I saw this
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Speaker 1: when it was happening. And I wondered for a moment, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: maybe it is a hoax.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so, too.
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Speaker 1: Because if Sam never showed up and now all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden he's getting blocked, well, maybe it was just
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Speaker 1: some sort of caper that somebody was pulling on Frosted Jake.
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Speaker 1: But then to have Sam Altman calling him.
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Speaker 2: It's weird. And also to have the OpenAI legal team
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Speaker 2: like reach out to Jake too and try and get
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Speaker 2: him to delete all of these posts. Like they're obviously
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Speaker 2: insinuating that this was legit or this was real or
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Speaker 2: that this was real enough to affect their brand and
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Speaker 2: ChatGBT as if people give a crap about ChatGBT and
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Speaker 2: their reputation. But it's just, it's a bizarre situation. I
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Speaker 2: kind of feel like maybe Sam Altman's lawyer told him,
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Speaker 2: don't meet up with him. Like the fuck? Like you're
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Speaker 2: going to ruin your reputation or something. We're just going
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Speaker 2: to pay the press and we will pump out all
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Speaker 2: this fake crap about how this wasn't real and people
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Speaker 2: are going to be dumb and believe it anyway because
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Speaker 2: a lot of people just read headlines and believe what
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Speaker 2: the headlines say and it's not going to matter and
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Speaker 2: we'll just let it blow off. I think that's kind of...
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Speaker 2: That's kind of my vibe on it. Like, people are
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Speaker 2: just going to forget about the whole situation.
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Speaker 1: But, I mean, he's obviously not somebody who cares a
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Speaker 1: whole lot about traditional conventions. So, like, if he made
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Speaker 1: this initial contact anyway, if he's on Grindr as Sam Altman,
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Speaker 1: one of the most powerful people in the world, like,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to really... give a fuck so he
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Speaker 1: seems like a diabolical very odd little dude he.
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Speaker 2: Is very odd and he's straight up evil like if you.
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Speaker 1: Guys he's also litigious and he also comes to internet
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Speaker 1: for people talking about him i'm just telling you yeah
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Speaker 1: we might have to take this.
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Speaker 2: Down i don't give a shit i'm saying everything is
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Speaker 2: alleged i'm not accusing him of anything so you can't
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Speaker 2: really legally sue me for defamation i am just alleged
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Speaker 2: and i'm just spouting conspiracy theories that i see online
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Speaker 2: and You know, I totally believe all of the headlines
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Speaker 2: that came out conveniently right after this whole situation, that
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Speaker 2: this whole situation was fake and a hoax. So I'm
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Speaker 2: just talking about it like it's fake. Just saying that
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Speaker 2: for legal purposes. This is all a joke.
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Speaker 1: Well, it just feels like maybe Sam is kind of
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Speaker 1: fixated on Frosted Jake for some reason.
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Speaker 2: Well, because he made him go viral and he exposed
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Speaker 2: him for being a gay weirdo.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he thinks that's hot. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Maybe.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he wants to.
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Speaker 2: Maybe. And that was a lot of people were saying
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Speaker 2: to Frost and Jake, like, be careful if you meet
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Speaker 2: him in person because he's dangerous. Allegedly. I mean, there's
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Speaker 2: some crazy lore about Sam Altman. I don't want us
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Speaker 2: to get like banned off of YouTube for saying all
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Speaker 2: the details, but like, he's an evil, evil dude. If
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Speaker 2: you just like do some research on the Google, like
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Speaker 2: if you just Google some of the stories that have
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Speaker 2: come out about him, like he's not a good person, allegedly,
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, but, And we're just going to leave
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Speaker 2: it at that. But it was just kind of an
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Speaker 2: interesting end to the story. I didn't really expect Frosted
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Speaker 2: Jake to see him in Bali. I kind of figured
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Speaker 2: something like this would happen. But then to have him
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Speaker 2: blow up his phone afterwards. i'm like why what's wrong with.
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Speaker 1: You he's dtf honey yeah right to go i guess
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Speaker 1: like once again you're one of the richest people in
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Speaker 1: the world but i hear rumblings on financial youtube that
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Speaker 1: his company OpenAI is about to plummet in the stock
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Speaker 1: price because it's all built on a house of lies
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Speaker 1: and it's super overvalued and it's not worth what they
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Speaker 1: say it is and they're building all these motherfucking data
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Speaker 1: centers don't get me started all these data centers for
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Speaker 1: what because you're not making any profit you're projecting OpenAI
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Speaker 1: is projecting to make a profit like in 2030 lol
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Speaker 1: and they're sinking bazillions of dollars every fucking month all
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Speaker 1: of these governments of the world talk about a hoax
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Speaker 1: straight up talk about a scheme oh total but apparently
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Speaker 1: like he's on the precipice of his company just utterly
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Speaker 1: failing good.
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Speaker 2: Please i love to see it yeah i think it's
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Speaker 2: great honestly.
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Speaker 1: Hi editing delia here and i just kind of want
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Speaker 1: to prepare the dumpster for the segment to come because
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Speaker 1: i'm going to be probably very direct and I could
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Speaker 1: even be offensive to some people because we're going to
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Speaker 1: be discussing looks and aging and I know that's so
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Speaker 1: sensitive hey I'm sensitive to that but at the same
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Speaker 1: time like I do think there's some value in talking
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Speaker 1: very openly about how startling some of this stuff in
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Speaker 1: our culture actually is and so I'm going to be
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Speaker 1: using very direct language And I just want to apologize
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Speaker 1: in advance if I offend anybody. I really don't intend to.
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Speaker 1: This is just me. I have no class. I have
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Speaker 1: no coups. And I want to just speak plainly. And
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Speaker 1: I hope that's okay, guys. All right, let's get into it.
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Speaker 1: So what's our next topic?
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Speaker 2: Next topic, I think you might want to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: It's Robin McGraw, who's Tim McGraw. Not Tim McGraw.
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Speaker 1: Phil McGraw.
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Speaker 2: Dr.
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Speaker 1: Phil. Dr.
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Speaker 2: Phil.
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Speaker 1: Dr.
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Speaker 2: Phil's wife.
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Speaker 1: So let me just set this up for everybody, okay?
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Speaker 1: Because back in the day, early aughts, when... Dr. Phil
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Speaker 1: used to come on Oprah. I just loved him. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh my God, this big old Texan. Yeah. Giving some
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Speaker 1: straight talk to some kooky people who need to hear it.
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Speaker 1: Just spitting the truth. Bars. I thought it was bars.
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Speaker 1: I love Dr. Phil. And then he got his own show.
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Speaker 1: which was great. And I remember after my daughter came
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Speaker 1: home from school, me and my mom, and sometimes my daughter,
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Speaker 1: we'd sit on the little couch and watch Dr. Phil.
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Speaker 2: That's cute.
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Speaker 1: And it was wonderful. Like it was part of my
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Speaker 1: daily routine. And every day in the audience, you would
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Speaker 1: always see Robin McGraw, his wife. And like when he
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Speaker 1: would walk into the studio, he'd walk in with her
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Speaker 1: and then deposit her in her little chair. And she
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Speaker 1: was like this little waif So beautiful. And they were
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Speaker 1: such a cute couple. Now I think he's the devil.
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Speaker 1: And so is Oprah. But we won't even go there.
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Speaker 1: But I just remember Robin as being sort of this poised, ethereal, wholesome,
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Speaker 1: wonderful woman. And as I continued to watch Dr. Phil
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Speaker 1: through the aughts with my mother and my child, I noticed,
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Speaker 1: I started to notice that Robin's face... was beginning to
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Speaker 1: change a little bit. And I thought, huh, she must
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Speaker 1: be getting a little nip talk, a little of the
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Speaker 1: board docs, you know, maybe a little bit of this,
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Speaker 1: a little bit of that. It wasn't egregious though. It
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Speaker 1: was noticeable. Like I could see it, but women age
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Speaker 1: and some women want to do something about that. Other
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Speaker 1: women just let it go, let it rip. And so
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Speaker 1: Robin was obviously doing something. And by the time I
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Speaker 1: stopped watching Dr. Phil, gosh, 2008, maybe 2009. I don't
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Speaker 1: remember around that. It was kind of getting bad. Like
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Speaker 1: the plastic surgery was much more obvious. And I personally
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Speaker 1: started asking the existential question, like why would a beautiful
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Speaker 1: woman not be able to see with her eyes when
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Speaker 1: she looks in the mirror that she's changing too much
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Speaker 1: of her beautiful face? Like what's happening here? And I
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Speaker 1: kind of played with the idea that like maybe she's
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Speaker 1: a little bit losing touch with reality. And, you know,
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Speaker 1: I have had my issues with like body dysmorphia and
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Speaker 1: being like a fantastic weight and feeling like I was
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Speaker 1: absolutely overweight. Like I get it, the mentals of that.
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Speaker 1: And so I thought, well, maybe Robin's maybe dealing with
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Speaker 1: a little bit of that. And if she could just
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Speaker 1: pull back, she could maybe go back to what it was,
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Speaker 1: you know? And then I like lost touch with McGraw's.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I met my own Texan, my own six, three Texan
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Speaker 1: moved over here to Texas, started my life. And then
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Speaker 1: last week I found myself doom scrolling on Instagram where
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Speaker 1: I came upon a video of Dr. Phil on his podcast.
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Speaker 1: He I don't, why does he need to monetize absolutely
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Speaker 1: everything he does? He's got a show. He's got a YouTube.
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Speaker 1: He's got a podcast. They've got all these products. I
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Speaker 1: think they're worth $ 400 million. Oh my God. Almost a
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Speaker 1: half of a billion dollars. They have a big mansion.
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Speaker 1: It's very gaudy. in Dallas like they have it all
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Speaker 1: and I want to say they're 100 years old these
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Speaker 1: are old senior citizen people like why do you I
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Speaker 1: understand like working keeps you alive and keeps you engaged
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Speaker 1: but like just retire having these multiple streams of income
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Speaker 1: I didn't get it but anyway so they've got a
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Speaker 1: podcast y'all my god and I saw it and made
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Speaker 1: timeline and I see Dr. Phil I'm like oh god
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Speaker 1: he's getting so old he's all kind of hunched over
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Speaker 1: and stuff and then it panned to rubbish And when
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Speaker 1: I tell you, and I'm going to try, it's just
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Speaker 1: us in a dumpster.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And so I might be offensive. I told you, though.
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Speaker 1: When I tell you that she literally looks like Jigsaw
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Speaker 1: from the Saw movies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Like, her face is 17 times the size. Her head
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Speaker 1: is 17 times the size that it used to be.
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Speaker 1: It's so much bigger. There's, like, no... indentations anymore where
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Speaker 1: like a nose a nasi what is that nasal labial
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Speaker 1: fold should be like there's just a big balloon with
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Speaker 1: eyes but there's still wrinkles there's still like.
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Speaker 3: Signs of aging but it's on this balloon fucking face
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Speaker 3: and when i tell you it was a jump scare
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Speaker 3: i'm like robin robin mcgraw from 2004?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like she's always been beautiful. Dr. Phil paraded around
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Speaker 1: the stage like they were dancing. Yeah. It was horrible.
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Speaker 1: It was like if you imagine yourself waking up at
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Speaker 1: 3 a.m. and you're just like, oh God, I was
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Speaker 1: What time is it? And you look to the side
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Speaker 1: of your bed and there's Robin McGraw. Oh my God.
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Speaker 1: How your heart would leave your body. Like you'd have
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Speaker 1: a cardiac event.
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Speaker 2: It is frightening.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry. And I'm like, I'm an older woman.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how old she is. I'm aging too. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I'm 58 years old. How dare you bring that up?
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Speaker 1: How dare you bring that up? I'm 58 years old.
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Speaker 1: So I get it. And I understand. And I've done
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Speaker 1: Botox before. but I saw what Hollywood was doing with
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Speaker 1: these fillers and shit. And I'm like, never me. I'm
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Speaker 1: just going to get sunken in. I guess I'm just
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Speaker 1: going to get hollow cheeked. It's fine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But I'm never going to fucking insert shit into my face.
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Speaker 1: So I look like a balloon person. And then I
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Speaker 1: sent you the pictures and I'm like, this is Robin McGraw.
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Speaker 2: And my response today was like, how does her face
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Speaker 2: look big and small at the same time? Because like
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Speaker 2: her features look really small with the big giant head.
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Speaker 1: Because when you're pumping helium into the balloon, the eyes, nose,
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Speaker 1: and mouth, they sink kind of into more of a
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Speaker 1: narrow field. And then the rest is just silicone head. Honey,
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Speaker 1: and here's the thing. Okay, Dr. Phil, you purport to
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Speaker 1: be this psychologist or this doctor who can bring in
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Speaker 1: these troubled teens and send them off to ranches where
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Speaker 1: they're routinely abused. And you can give advice to all
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Speaker 1: of these people with their mentals. You're supposed to be
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Speaker 1: an expert. And yet, living under your roof in Dallas, Texas,
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Speaker 1: is this beautiful woman who is clearly fucking troubled, yo. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: She's clearly disturbed in some way. Like, how do we
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Speaker 1: let it get this bad? And she's got, I think,
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Speaker 1: two sons. Those sons have wives. There's a mess of grandkids.
19:03
Speaker 1: There's nobody in the fucking family. Listen to me. If
19:06
Speaker 1: I ever start hacking at my face and fucking pumping
19:10
Speaker 1: in helium so I look like a balloon, I'm going
19:13
Speaker 1: to need you to say, Mama, can we just, let's
19:18
Speaker 1: go to lunch really quick. I just want to talk
19:19
Speaker 1: to you about something. And you better fucking tell me
19:22
Speaker 1: I look like Jigsaw. You better look in my eyes
19:25
Speaker 1: and tell me, Beatrice. you're you're fucking lost the plot
19:28
Speaker 1: mama well you.
19:29
Speaker 2: Gotta listen to me too because i feel i wonder
19:32
Speaker 2: if robin mcgraw i wonder if robin mcgraw has been
19:34
Speaker 2: told this and she's not listening i looked up her
19:37
Speaker 2: age by the way she's 72 she's 72 all right
19:41
Speaker 2: i mean yeah but like stop it my thing is
19:44
Speaker 2: like just stop like you're going to age. You're not
19:48
Speaker 2: going to stop the aging. It's inevitable. If you want
19:51
Speaker 2: to live to a long age, you're going to be wrinkly.
19:54
Speaker 1: You're going to be saggy.
19:56
Speaker 2: Your face is going to fall a little bit.
19:58
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:58
Speaker 2: And that's fine. That's fine.
20:01
Speaker 1: It should be fine. And when you think about like,
20:03
Speaker 1: what would she have looked like if she allowed herself
20:06
Speaker 1: to just age naturally? She probably would have been beautiful.
20:08
Speaker 1: Infinitely better. You know, maybe like not stereotypical, let's all
20:13
Speaker 1: lust after this woman because hi, you're 72. You're 72.
20:15
Speaker 1: This is what happens and it's okay. Yeah. But you
20:18
Speaker 1: would have been infinitely better. better yeah then what the
20:22
Speaker 1: fuck you're rocking now lady and i'm just like i
20:24
Speaker 1: don't get it i don't understand what's happening and you
20:26
Speaker 1: know what else i want to tell you too you
20:27
Speaker 1: know what else i want to tell everybody there is
20:29
Speaker 1: a distinct difference between the plastic surgery that they're doing
20:34
Speaker 1: in hollywood and la oh yeah versus the plastic surgery
20:38
Speaker 1: they're doing in new york like when you look at
20:41
Speaker 1: what the ladies are doing in new york yeah there's
20:43
Speaker 1: like the cat lady and she's crazy obviously but like
20:46
Speaker 1: The socialites, the ladies with money, women with means, they
20:51
Speaker 1: look chic. You can kind of tell they're getting older.
20:55
Speaker 1: They're getting something done. But they look good. They look
20:59
Speaker 1: tasteful for the most part. But then you fucking fly
21:03
Speaker 1: over to California and they've got some sort of brain
21:07
Speaker 1: parasite where they can't see each other realistically. And it's
21:11
Speaker 1: probably because they're all fucking doing it. And then they've
21:14
Speaker 1: got some sort of standard bearer. And I guess it's
21:17
Speaker 1: Kim fucking Kardashian that they all feel like they've got
21:20
Speaker 1: to look like or approximate. And so they just keep
21:23
Speaker 1: doing this shit to themselves. And they don't understand that
21:26
Speaker 1: nobody looks like that. And in fact, you look like
21:29
Speaker 1: a freak show.
21:29
Speaker 2: No, like 100%. It's filler nation over there. And I
21:32
Speaker 2: don't understand what the obsession is with fillers because they're
21:35
Speaker 2: objectively terrible for you. They're bad for your skin. they
21:38
Speaker 2: never really look good. Like even if you get it
21:41
Speaker 2: tastefully done, like it's going to look bad the older
21:44
Speaker 2: that you get. And the problem with fillers is that
21:46
Speaker 2: like you have to keep getting it for it to
21:49
Speaker 2: maintain its look. But the more fillers you get, the
21:52
Speaker 2: more balloonified you get. And it's just like crazy to me.
21:55
Speaker 2: And it's like, it's not just people like Robin McGraw.
21:58
Speaker 2: It's like Darcy and Stacey from 90 Day Fiancé. And
22:03
Speaker 2: they're also balloonified. And Madonna, who also looks Like, unrecognizable.
22:10
Speaker 1: With her BBL. Yeah, I know. With her big old
22:12
Speaker 1: diaper butt.
22:13
Speaker 2: Which is crazy to me. Like, what are you doing?
22:16
Speaker 2: How old is she?
22:17
Speaker 1: She's 68.
22:18
Speaker 2: Like, why are you getting a BBL at 68?
22:21
Speaker 1: I don't know.
22:22
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
22:23
Speaker 1: I don't, I have no idea what is going on
22:25
Speaker 1: because when we look at celebrities, we always think, oh
22:28
Speaker 1: my God, they have it all.
22:29
Speaker 2: Right.
22:30
Speaker 1: Like they've got access to all the resources. They really
22:32
Speaker 1: must be so confident in themselves. Like they really must
22:35
Speaker 1: be so well adjusted because they've achieved at this high level,
22:39
Speaker 1: but they are the most insecure, emotionally pathetic people around.
22:44
Speaker 1: And really when you've got a spotlight on you, Like,
22:47
Speaker 1: it's going to shine all the dark shit that's inside
22:50
Speaker 1: of you.
22:50
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
22:51
Speaker 1: And what's inside is always going to come out. And
22:53
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Robin McGraw because, A, she used
22:55
Speaker 1: to be beautiful, and, B, she talked a lot about
22:59
Speaker 1: her mother during the Dr. Phil show and how her mother...
23:03
Speaker 1: never took care of herself, like always took care of
23:06
Speaker 1: everybody else to the point where like she was diagnosed
23:09
Speaker 1: ultimately with late stage cancer and she died because she
23:13
Speaker 1: never went to the doctor. Cause she was always like giving, giving, giving.
23:15
Speaker 1: And so Robin's thing was always like, I'm going to
23:18
Speaker 1: definitely practice self-care. I'm going to teach women how to
23:21
Speaker 1: take care of themselves, not just medically, but like, let's
23:24
Speaker 1: have lotions and treatments and all of this stuff. And
23:28
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, but you, the pendulum swung in this,
23:31
Speaker 1: crazy direction and I just wish she had a good
23:34
Speaker 1: Judy in her corner who was like honey you gotta
23:38
Speaker 1: stop but maybe she can't maybe it's like you said
23:41
Speaker 1: once you start like you can't if you don't keep
23:44
Speaker 1: doing it what's gonna happen is it just gonna redistribute
23:47
Speaker 1: to other areas of your body I think you can't
23:49
Speaker 1: dissolve it correct me if.
23:50
Speaker 2: I'm wrong I don't know if I think you can
23:53
Speaker 2: dissolve fillers because like I know he's a controversial figure
23:56
Speaker 2: but Jeffrey Starr he used to get fillers and stuff
23:59
Speaker 2: in his lips and And he got those all dissolved
24:01
Speaker 2: because he realized that they were so terrible. And he
24:04
Speaker 2: kept having to get his lips done. And they kept
24:05
Speaker 2: looking all fucked up and weird. And he just finally said,
24:09
Speaker 2: fuck this. I'm going to go back to my thin
24:11
Speaker 2: lip life. And he did. He got rid of them.
24:13
Speaker 2: They look a lot better. He's healthier for it. And
24:15
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm never doing that ever again. So I
24:18
Speaker 2: think you can get them resolved or dissolved, but I
24:21
Speaker 2: don't know if after a certain point, like you can't,
24:24
Speaker 2: cause it just stays in your fucking skin and it
24:26
Speaker 2: like molds to your skin fat or something.
24:28
Speaker 1: I think that there are schools of thought out there that,
24:31
Speaker 1: dispute whether you can actually really get it dissolved like
24:35
Speaker 1: it it it it starts to float to other areas
24:39
Speaker 1: of your face or wherever you've put it and like
24:42
Speaker 1: maybe you can get some of it but like not
24:44
Speaker 1: all of it and i think they've done a specific
24:46
Speaker 1: imaging to see where that shit is and it's like
24:49
Speaker 1: all over your fucking face really yeah which is why
24:51
Speaker 1: you've got some people with like deformed face because their
24:54
Speaker 1: filler is has gone rogue. I don't know.
24:57
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the difference with that with Botox? Cause
24:59
Speaker 2: like Botox, you still have to keep up, right?
25:01
Speaker 1: Like Botox isn't filling your face. It's just paralyzing your
25:04
Speaker 1: face so that you don't have wrinkles. But yeah, after
25:07
Speaker 1: three to five months, it dissolves.
25:08
Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:09
Speaker 1: It dissolves. And then you continue to animate your face
25:11
Speaker 1: and you continue to have wrinkles. So Botox is more, um, preventative,
25:16
Speaker 1: but fillers seem to be forever. And I just, gosh,
25:20
Speaker 1: I just felt bad. So let us know what you think.
25:22
Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, please drop in the comments.
25:25
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think about Robin McGraw and
25:27
Speaker 1: what she's doing and fillers and what you feel about that.
25:30
Speaker 1: Because I'm curious if anybody else has seen what I've seen.
25:34
Speaker 2: Because it's scary, man.
25:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:35
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be rude because she seems
25:37
Speaker 1: like such a nice woman.
25:38
Speaker 2: It's sad though.
25:39
Speaker 1: I just wish.
25:40
Speaker 2: Objectively, it's sad because obviously she is not in reality
25:44
Speaker 2: because she's not seeing herself for the beautiful person that
25:47
Speaker 2: she was and that is, you know what I mean?
25:48
Speaker 2: And it's like, what the hell are you.
25:49
Speaker 1: Doing here, babe? And you can't go back. No, you can't.
25:52
Speaker 1: You can't go back. It's sad. Next topic.
25:56
Speaker 2: Well, in Sister Wives news, we have to talk about it.
25:59
Speaker 2: Janelle's got a boyfriend. She's got a boyfriend. She's got
26:03
Speaker 2: a man. And his name is what? Roy or something? Roy.
26:08
Speaker 2: Let me look him up.
26:09
Speaker 1: Isn't it Jack or something simple like that?
26:12
Speaker 2: Oh, God.
26:13
Speaker 1: While you're looking it up, I'll just say she posted
26:15
Speaker 1: a picture. of her and this man. And she just
26:19
Speaker 1: seems so happy. She actually looked like young Janelle.
26:24
Speaker 2: She posted another photo too.
26:26
Speaker 1: It was something about Sundays. Yeah.
26:28
Speaker 2: She goes, I love Sundays. It's her man.
26:30
Speaker 1: I just am so happy for her. And this is
26:32
Speaker 1: how life works so often. Like when you just are
26:35
Speaker 1: not looking for anything, you're just happy with yourself. I've
26:39
Speaker 1: got my fucking flower farm. I've just built my first
26:42
Speaker 1: home and nobody can take that away from me. And
26:46
Speaker 1: you feel so settled in your skin. And she's a Taurus.
26:50
Speaker 1: She just loves the place that she created for herself.
26:54
Speaker 1: She's feeling good. It's only good vibrations. And then here
26:58
Speaker 1: comes that high vibration man. to match your vibration and
27:02
Speaker 1: you fall in love.
27:03
Speaker 2: It's great. His name is Pete, by the way. It's
27:05
Speaker 2: not right. It's Pete, but it's really sweet. Obviously she
27:09
Speaker 2: has resounding support across all platforms. Like everybody is super
27:13
Speaker 2: happy for her. There was something that I wanted to
27:16
Speaker 2: point out because people on Reddit were talking about it,
27:18
Speaker 2: about how Christine Brown had to just like comment on
27:21
Speaker 2: her post and kind of make it about her. And
27:24
Speaker 2: Christine said that, He's such an awesome guy. They are
27:27
Speaker 2: so cute together. And he's a construction worker like David.
27:32
Speaker 1: Okay, Christine.
27:33
Speaker 2: It's like, stop.
27:34
Speaker 1: Let your friend have a moment in the sun.
27:36
Speaker 2: Like you had a whole wedding special? twice and like
27:41
Speaker 2: articles and people magazine and all this stuff like sit
27:45
Speaker 2: down we've.
27:45
Speaker 1: Seen you french kiss that old man more times than
27:48
Speaker 1: we can stand to think about like chill let you
27:52
Speaker 1: know be in love I'm just so happy for her
27:55
Speaker 1: I'm really happy for her and you know what I
27:56
Speaker 1: was dogging on her last season and rightly so because
27:59
Speaker 1: like there was a lot that she did wrong yeah
28:01
Speaker 1: she let Cody off the hook really easily maybe she
28:04
Speaker 1: tried to undercut Mary and that's wrong but after everything
28:09
Speaker 1: she's been through And walking away with virtually nothing. She
28:14
Speaker 1: deserves to have real love in her life and know
28:17
Speaker 1: what that feels like from a good man.
28:20
Speaker 2: And I hope he eats her box all night, every night.
28:24
Speaker 2: I hope he gives her the sensual love in.
28:25
Speaker 1: Oh God, you know she's got a sensual box. Totally.
28:29
Speaker 2: And also, I'm just going to put it out there.
28:31
Speaker 2: I kind of hope we don't see much of him.
28:33
Speaker 2: Like I hope he doesn't want to be in the limelight.
28:35
Speaker 2: I hope he's not a clout chaser. like David or
28:38
Speaker 2: like that other weird dude, Amos that Mary was dating
28:41
Speaker 2: for a period. Like, I hope that he is super
28:44
Speaker 2: chill like Janelle and I hope he doesn't really want
28:46
Speaker 2: any of the fame. The only thing I hope for
28:49
Speaker 2: is that if he does show up on next season
28:52
Speaker 2: or whatever, I hope he talks mad shit. I hope
28:54
Speaker 2: he talks shit about Cody. I hope that Janelle talks
28:57
Speaker 2: shit about Cody because I would love that for me personally,
29:00
Speaker 2: but other than that, I just, I hope that he
29:04
Speaker 2: is a good dude and I hope he doesn't want
29:07
Speaker 2: to be with her just because of the fame. She
29:08
Speaker 2: didn't tag him for like his social media or anything.
29:11
Speaker 2: Cause he doesn't strike me as a dude who's like
29:13
Speaker 2: on the Instagrams or whatever. And I, I hope it
29:16
Speaker 2: stays that way, but they look happy.
29:18
Speaker 1: They do. I hope he's got money bags. I hope
29:21
Speaker 1: that he's, I hope that he's holding and that he's
29:23
Speaker 1: got the security that, Janelle never really had that she
29:28
Speaker 1: had to create for herself. I mean, not that that's
29:30
Speaker 1: all that a man is supposed to do, but like
29:33
Speaker 1: a man who provides is a good man indeed. yeah
29:36
Speaker 1: so yeah we just wish all of the good things.
29:38
Speaker 2: For janelle yeah in other sister wives news not sure
29:42
Speaker 2: if this is real or not so take it with
29:43
Speaker 2: a grain of salt it may have just been ai
29:45
Speaker 2: generated but it's funny nonetheless there was a post going
29:48
Speaker 2: around on reddit of mary brown allegedly posted this herself
29:54
Speaker 2: And it's this like infographic of this 80s ladies night
29:59
Speaker 2: that she's apparently hosting in October. And it says, an
30:04
Speaker 2: epic night of fun, laughs, and good vibes. And I just,
30:10
Speaker 2: you sent this to me. And I just said, please
30:14
Speaker 2: stop because this is cringe.
30:17
Speaker 1: Is it real? And if it is real... Why? What
30:21
Speaker 1: would possess her to do that? I mean, if she's
30:23
Speaker 1: hosting an event, then there's probably some money involved, but
30:27
Speaker 1: it can't be a lot of money to host some
30:31
Speaker 1: cringoid ladies night. And then she shows up on the
30:34
Speaker 1: poster or the graphic with that hair. I just..
30:37
Speaker 2: And it looks very AI edited of her.
30:39
Speaker 1: It's so bad. It just is not great.
30:40
Speaker 2: She looks really thin and she's just like.
30:45
Speaker 1: It's real bad.
30:46
Speaker 2: It's pretty cringe.
30:47
Speaker 1: But get your bag, Mary, if it's real.
30:49
Speaker 2: And if it is real, I do kind of hope
30:51
Speaker 2: it's live streamed because I would love to see a
30:54
Speaker 2: bunch of people in their like 80s car.
30:56
Speaker 1: I'm serious. Why can't we go?
30:57
Speaker 2: Well, there was no location listed on the flyer.
30:59
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's find out where the location is and
31:02
Speaker 1: then maybe some raccoons we could road trip and go
31:04
Speaker 1: to fucking Utah.
31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, it did say it's in Pleasant Grove, Utah.
31:08
Speaker 2: But it doesn't say where in Pleasant Grove, Utah. Dude,
31:11
Speaker 2: that would be so fucking funny, though, if we take off.
31:14
Speaker 1: Do you think she knows who we are? I don't
31:16
Speaker 1: think so.
31:16
Speaker 2: We should show up with the wigs. We could show
31:18
Speaker 2: up with the wigs.
31:19
Speaker 1: The wigs, honey.
31:20
Speaker 2: And the 80s garb and everything. I'm going to be
31:22
Speaker 2: the youngest one there.
31:23
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, woo! Oh, my God. I
31:25
Speaker 1: feel like we should do it. Like, let's actually marinate
31:28
Speaker 1: on that for a while.
31:29
Speaker 2: And crowdsource. If you guys want to fund our trip,
31:33
Speaker 2: make sure you join us on Patreon, so that way
31:35
Speaker 2: we have funds. To go up there.
31:37
Speaker 1: That would be great. Go get it, Mary. Woo.
31:41
Speaker 2: And then the last little bit that we have, you
31:43
Speaker 2: probably want to talk about it.
31:44
Speaker 1: Bringing the house down. Not really, but I feel like
31:48
Speaker 1: we should acknowledge and talk about Hayden Panettiere.
31:52
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:54
Speaker 1: And the fact that she passed. And I think she
31:57
Speaker 1: passed on the 16th. She was in some sort of
32:00
Speaker 1: Airbnb in, I want to say Greenville, South Carolina.
32:05
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
32:07
Speaker 1: And I think the autopsy, not the toxicology, but the autopsy,
32:13
Speaker 1: preliminary autopsy stated that there was like no physical injury
32:19
Speaker 1: per se. So no foul play necessarily. But a lot
32:26
Speaker 1: of people, most people are deducing that it was probably
32:31
Speaker 1: related to drugs. And then of course, Since it was
32:35
Speaker 1: announced that Hayden passed away, there's been like a lot
32:37
Speaker 1: of information that's been coming out about the drug use
32:41
Speaker 1: and in specific about her ex-boyfriend, Brian Hickerson. Brian Hickerson,
32:46
Speaker 1: I think.
32:47
Speaker 2: Something like that.
32:47
Speaker 1: Brian Hickerson, who is a total and complete abusive piece
32:52
Speaker 1: of shit. But before we get there, you know, I
32:56
Speaker 1: just remember the interviews that Hayden was doing like about
33:00
Speaker 1: a year ago. Where she was completely knackered. She was
33:05
Speaker 1: completely high. And like it's People Magazine or something and
33:08
Speaker 1: they're interviewing her and we're supposed to pretend that this
33:12
Speaker 1: chick is not high off her gourd. Kind of like
33:15
Speaker 1: Anna Faris. Have you seen Anna Faris out there? Yeah,
33:18
Speaker 1: it's bad. Anna Faris also seems like she's having trouble
33:23
Speaker 1: with the drugs. And I just remember thinking, oh my gosh, Hayden.
33:25
Speaker 1: And then she released her book, which I think sold
33:28
Speaker 1: like gangbusters. And in the book, she touched upon her
33:34
Speaker 1: sobriety journey and she talked about how she was sober
33:37
Speaker 1: and how she had been working on that and gave
33:41
Speaker 1: the impression that she had really gotten her life back together.
33:46
Speaker 1: But as it turns out, that's probably not the case.
33:50
Speaker 1: I don't know what her last interview was, but I
33:52
Speaker 1: think one of the more recent ones was with this
33:54
Speaker 1: podcaster named Jay Shetty. And he's Shetty. I can't stand him.
34:00
Speaker 1: he's like, if chat GPT were a podcaster, um, the
34:03
Speaker 1: way he talks, he's just, he's really bad, but she
34:05
Speaker 1: seemed touched in that interview as well. And I just,
34:12
Speaker 1: I felt really afraid for her. I remember feeling for her,
34:15
Speaker 1: how I felt for Amy Winehouse in the couple of
34:17
Speaker 1: years leading up to her passing as well. I just
34:19
Speaker 1: really worried about what was going to happen with Hayden.
34:24
Speaker 1: And then we got the news and she passed and
34:28
Speaker 1: what a shock it was. Now I'm, an old head.
34:31
Speaker 1: You're of a younger generation, obviously. So she had much
34:35
Speaker 1: more relevance, I think, for the millennials and for the
34:38
Speaker 1: Gen Zs. How did you feel about her?
34:40
Speaker 2: Oh, she was like my first girl crush, actually, because
34:43
Speaker 2: I watched the show Heroes, which she was on when
34:45
Speaker 2: she was like 18, 17, 18. And I totally had
34:47
Speaker 2: a big crush on her. And so it was pretty
34:50
Speaker 2: sad to hear that she had passed away. And they're
34:54
Speaker 2: saying that it was like an alleged overdose or whatever.
34:56
Speaker 2: And You know, they say that a lot about a
34:59
Speaker 2: lot of these celebrities that pass away. But it's believable, right?
35:02
Speaker 2: It's believable for sure, but I think that's the point.
35:04
Speaker 2: And the thing with Hayden is that she, in the
35:07
Speaker 2: years leading up to her passing, she was starting to
35:12
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the abuse that she had
35:14
Speaker 2: suffered from the industry in Hollywood. And, you know, I
35:19
Speaker 2: should say the abuse she allegedly suffered. uh, suffered because
35:22
Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to come for me or whatever legally. Um,
35:25
Speaker 2: but she was starting to talk about it. And I
35:27
Speaker 2: think in her book, she had shared a story about, um,
35:32
Speaker 2: allegedly being coerced into a bed with a very famous
35:35
Speaker 2: naked celebrity man who was older, like she was freshly
35:39
Speaker 2: 18 or whatever. And it was implied that she had to,
35:43
Speaker 2: you know, do things with him in order to like
35:47
Speaker 2: help her career or whatever. And she like briefly touched
35:50
Speaker 2: the surface. And there was some interviews that I've been
35:51
Speaker 2: seeing like clipped out where she had talked about how
35:54
Speaker 2: like this is just like the tip of the iceberg.
35:57
Speaker 2: Like this isn't even like the full truth, like the
36:00
Speaker 2: full story. And obviously like the conspiracy theory about Hollywood
36:04
Speaker 2: is that they are satanic and evil and run by
36:10
Speaker 2: the Illuminati and that like a lot of these celebrities
36:13
Speaker 2: have to sell their souls for fame. Actually, Doja Cat
36:16
Speaker 2: just came out on X tweeting about that and saying
36:18
Speaker 2: that she like ruined her life by selling her soul
36:22
Speaker 2: to the Illuminati to like forward her career. And when
36:25
Speaker 2: that was all she wanted was to be famous. And
36:27
Speaker 2: now she's a part of this, cult or whatever and
36:29
Speaker 2: so she's even coming out and there's a lot of
36:31
Speaker 2: celebrities that have said this over the years you can
36:34
Speaker 2: believe it or not if you want but Hayden Panettiere
36:38
Speaker 2: was starting to speak out about some of the abuse
36:40
Speaker 2: and how this kind of contributed to her drug and
36:43
Speaker 2: alcohol addiction and then she passes away and now there's
36:47
Speaker 2: like theories about her boyfriend like possibly having something to
36:50
Speaker 2: do with it and possibly abusing her or whatever.
36:54
Speaker 1: And there's no possibly he was charged.
36:56
Speaker 2: He was. Yeah. But people are saying that he was
36:59
Speaker 2: responsible for his death allegedly too. Right. Her death. Yeah.
37:03
Speaker 1: People are wondering about it because there's kind of something
37:07
Speaker 1: fishy about it. But before I talk about that, I
37:09
Speaker 1: just want to say that I remember a few years
37:12
Speaker 1: ago on some weird message board reading conspiracies about Hayden
37:19
Speaker 1: being I don't want to talk about it, but like
37:24
Speaker 1: horrifically child abused in the industry as a young, young girl.
37:29
Speaker 1: And they were talking about her abuse on par with
37:34
Speaker 1: the girl from Poltergeist. And if you want to go
37:38
Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole of dread with what people claim
37:45
Speaker 1: that young girl went through before she passed at, I think,
37:47
Speaker 1: 13 years old. I mean, it was just horrible, horrible..
37:51
Speaker 2: Horrific.
37:51
Speaker 1: Theories about what happened to her. But, like, when they
37:54
Speaker 1: talked about Hayden, they compared her abuse, alleged abuse, to
38:00
Speaker 1: what that girl went through. And, of course, Hayden, her
38:03
Speaker 1: mother was, like, some failed soap star. And... As soon
38:08
Speaker 1: as Hayden could, and I think she was like less
38:11
Speaker 1: than one years old, Hayden was auditioning for commercials. I
38:15
Speaker 1: think she says in her book that she auditioned for
38:17
Speaker 1: like 50 commercials by the time she was five or
38:19
Speaker 1: something like that, or was in 50 commercials by the
38:22
Speaker 1: time she was five. So her mother was constantly and
38:26
Speaker 1: chronically putting her in front of the industry to get
38:31
Speaker 1: her these roles. And of course she got the roles
38:33
Speaker 1: and she was a child actress. And then she just
38:35
Speaker 1: continued to act throughout her life. But her mom was,
38:39
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a gigantic piece of shit. And when
38:41
Speaker 1: Hayden turned 18, she told her mom, like, you can't
38:44
Speaker 1: manage me anymore. Because of course, these fucking parasitical parents
38:48
Speaker 1: not just want to pimp you out to the industry,
38:50
Speaker 1: they also want to manage you and take a cut
38:51
Speaker 1: of everything you make. And so at 18, Hayden tells
38:54
Speaker 1: her mother, like, I just want you to be my mom.
38:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:57
Speaker 1: I just want to have a relationship with you that's
38:58
Speaker 1: different than the relationship I've had since I was born.
39:01
Speaker 1: Can we just be mom and daughter and Her mother's
39:04
Speaker 1: words in the book were, but you owe me. Okay.
39:08
Speaker 1: So Hayden cuts off her mother at that point, and
39:11
Speaker 1: there is a long estrangement between mother and daughter. And
39:15
Speaker 1: so this bitch, and I don't know her name. You
39:18
Speaker 1: could look it up, but you don't have to. Hayden's
39:20
Speaker 1: mother came out shortly after it was announced that Hayden passed,
39:23
Speaker 1: and her mother gave some callous statement. Like, you know,
39:27
Speaker 1: Hayden had a lot of gifts and talents, you know, know,
39:30
Speaker 1: it's just too bad she took the wrong path.
39:32
Speaker 2: Wow.
39:32
Speaker 1: Something like that. And Gail King, Oprah's best friend and
39:36
Speaker 1: Gail King is on the today show. I think it
39:38
Speaker 1: is the morning show read her statement and said, wow,
39:43
Speaker 1: thanks mom. That made some sort of comment. And like
39:46
Speaker 1: everybody was, like in the zeitgeist, just commenting on what
39:50
Speaker 1: a piece of shit this mother is. So much so
39:52
Speaker 1: that she came out with an additional statement like yesterday
39:56
Speaker 1: or today in which she was so offended that everybody
40:00
Speaker 1: got upset with the way that she's grieving the death
40:03
Speaker 1: of her own child, like got really defensive. And she
40:06
Speaker 1: also looks crazy.
40:08
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
40:08
Speaker 1: By the way. So Hayden had a terrible upbringing. Who
40:13
Speaker 1: knows how deep and how bad that went. And then
40:15
Speaker 1: she meets this motherfucker brian hickerson who is an addict
40:21
Speaker 1: and i want to say not just drugs but like
40:23
Speaker 1: alcohol and also a domestic abuser like he didn't just
40:28
Speaker 1: like push her slap her here or there he beat
40:31
Speaker 1: the fuck out of hayden like her face bloodied black
40:37
Speaker 1: and blue to the hospital she went and he was
40:41
Speaker 1: arrested and now the texts are coming out from back
40:45
Speaker 1: then which was like 2020 or earlier, I'm not quite
40:49
Speaker 1: sure on the timeline, but around that time where he
40:51
Speaker 1: was being prosecuted for abusing her, and he did abuse her,
40:55
Speaker 1: and he's sending her these texts, like, if you don't
40:58
Speaker 1: drop these charges, I'm going to release all of these
41:00
Speaker 1: videos that I have of you. The moment I step
41:02
Speaker 1: into prison, my guys overseas are going to release all
41:05
Speaker 1: of the videos.
41:06
Speaker 2: Wow.
41:06
Speaker 1: So just threatening her, blackmailing her, just awful person after
41:11
Speaker 1: he did horrible things to her. And somehow, this king
41:15
Speaker 1: of a man... came back around and re-entered Hayden's life
41:23
Speaker 1: in the last year or two. And she kept this
41:26
Speaker 1: very secret because of course everybody would be so concerned.
41:29
Speaker 1: Shouldn't tell a lot of people. She starts popping up
41:32
Speaker 1: on these various interviews, clearly high in my opinion, clearly
41:36
Speaker 1: struggling again with all of these substances because he's in
41:39
Speaker 1: the background. And so on the day that she passes,
41:43
Speaker 1: he's in the Airbnb with her. His brother, who's some
41:47
Speaker 1: sort of fucked up millennial pastor, like they all are,
41:51
Speaker 1: comes to the Airbnb because they're supposed to go to
41:53
Speaker 1: brunch or something. Nobody answers the door. He lets himself in.
41:57
Speaker 1: And Hayden is dead at this point. Yeah. On the couch.
42:01
Speaker 1: And Brian is lying next to her. Also, quite possibly ODing.
42:06
Speaker 1: This is like what people close to the situation are
42:10
Speaker 1: actually saying. This hasn't been confirmed.
42:11
Speaker 2: Although.
42:12
Speaker 1: His brother did come out and say that he did
42:14
Speaker 1: enter the home and that Narcan was administered to Hayden.
42:18
Speaker 1: But some of the rumors are actually saying that there
42:22
Speaker 1: was Narcan. And I'm not sure why. Well, I am
42:26
Speaker 1: sure why Hayden would have Narcan or Brian would have
42:28
Speaker 1: Narcan because they're addicts. But that his brother, I think
42:32
Speaker 1: his name is Zachary, actually administered the Narcan to Brian.
42:37
Speaker 1: That it was like Hayden's Narcan, but the brother administers
42:40
Speaker 1: it to Brian and And then Brian tries to administer
42:42
Speaker 1: it to Hayden. Whereas I think the actual official report
42:47
Speaker 1: says that Brian administers Narcan to Hayden.
42:50
Speaker 2: So like it's sus.
42:52
Speaker 1: It is sus because if the pastor brother sees the Narcan,
42:56
Speaker 1: that's Hayden's most likely and administers it to his brother first.
43:02
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot that's wrong with that as well.
43:03
Speaker 1: So Hayden's gone. By the time the EMTs and the
43:07
Speaker 1: police are there, Brian is non-emotional, but that's because he
43:10
Speaker 1: was ODing. Yeah. He's just coming into lucidity now. Although
43:13
Speaker 1: apparently he was trying to administer CPR. Nobody really knows
43:17
Speaker 1: what happened.
43:18
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.
43:19
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. After Matthew Perry died, he was
43:24
Speaker 1: in some sort of hot tub and it comes out
43:27
Speaker 1: that Matthew Perry was not in fact sober because he
43:31
Speaker 1: also claimed in a book that he was sober. He
43:32
Speaker 1: was not in fact sober, that he was on drugs
43:34
Speaker 1: and that he overdosed. They also said there was no
43:36
Speaker 1: foul play initially. Because, again, no injuries, nobody else is around.
43:42
Speaker 1: But once they started digging to try to find out
43:45
Speaker 1: who was supplying Matthew Perry with his drugs, and I
43:48
Speaker 1: think it was ketamine specifically, they were able to pinpoint
43:51
Speaker 1: the people who administered the drugs or gave him the drugs,
43:53
Speaker 1: and those people are currently in prison. Same thing with
43:58
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's doctor who administered his propofol, and Michael Jackson
44:02
Speaker 1: ultimately dies, and so they prosecuted the doctor. So it
44:05
Speaker 1: could be, this is hypothetical, And all alleged, but it
44:09
Speaker 1: could be because the DEA is now involved and they
44:12
Speaker 1: are now digging deeper into, well, how did she get
44:15
Speaker 1: these drugs? Because I think the brother said that Hayden
44:18
Speaker 1: had like a bag of drugs filled with stuff. Maybe. Okay.
44:24
Speaker 1: She's been an addict. It could be. But like, what
44:27
Speaker 1: about Brian? He's an addict too. He's abusive. What is
44:33
Speaker 1: his role in it? Could he have supplied her with
44:36
Speaker 1: those drugs? Could we somehow make a case against that asshole?
44:41
Speaker 1: Because he abused her outright.
44:44
Speaker 2: And I think that that's like the thing is that
44:46
Speaker 2: this is an all too common occurrence in Hollywood and
44:50
Speaker 2: with a lot of these celebrities. And it just seems
44:53
Speaker 2: convenient that a lot of them tend to die from
44:56
Speaker 2: ODs when they have histories of drug and alcohol abuse.
45:01
Speaker 2: And so therefore it is believable to think, oh, they just...
45:06
Speaker 2: you know relapsed and they had an OD and like
45:09
Speaker 2: that's it it's cut and dry and there's no other
45:12
Speaker 2: suspicion there's no other uh cause for this like it's
45:15
Speaker 2: just what it is oh it's a tragic story on
45:17
Speaker 2: to the next and I feel like that's kind of
45:20
Speaker 2: a larger conversation that we can have about like the
45:22
Speaker 2: Hollywood industry and like the music industry and and celebrities
45:25
Speaker 2: in general because a lot of them end up troubled
45:28
Speaker 2: and a lot of them end up on drugs and
45:29
Speaker 2: a lot of them end up fucking up their faces
45:31
Speaker 2: with filler and like they're just all going through it
45:35
Speaker 2: and we really need to, as a society, have a
45:39
Speaker 2: conversation about like our role in like worshiping these celebrities
45:43
Speaker 2: and like giving them these, these platforms of where we
45:48
Speaker 2: like worship them. And we're like, Oh my God, they're
45:50
Speaker 2: so amazing. Oh my God. Like you're here for my entertainment.
45:52
Speaker 2: But like, ultimately the industry is toxic and evil and
45:57
Speaker 2: satanic and terrible. And like, I don't, I don't want
46:01
Speaker 2: to say that like we are complicit in that, in
46:05
Speaker 2: like our enjoyment of these celebrities in these TV shows
46:08
Speaker 2: and these movies and stuff like that. But like we
46:10
Speaker 2: need to come after Hollywood and we need to come
46:12
Speaker 2: after these industries that are killing these celebrities and killing
46:17
Speaker 2: these music artists for, for what?
46:19
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Well, cause you could just reframe it.
46:22
Speaker 1: Couldn't you, you could reframe it from these are celebrities
46:25
Speaker 1: that we should aspire to be too. These are abuse victims. Yeah. Many, many,
46:30
Speaker 1: many of these people, especially celebrities, the women are straight
46:36
Speaker 1: up abuse victims, whether of people in their orbit who
46:39
Speaker 1: are leeching off them like parasites and barnacles and or
46:43
Speaker 1: victims of the industry itself. And so Hayden very well
46:48
Speaker 1: could have been that. And when you're talking about being
46:50
Speaker 1: on the boat and the guy in the bed allegedly is,
46:54
Speaker 1: I think his name is James Blunt.
46:56
Speaker 2: Is that what they said? It was the guy who was.
46:58
Speaker 1: Saying, you beautiful creepy. And, and, her friend who set
47:03
Speaker 1: it up is supposed to be allegedly Diana Jenkins, who
47:07
Speaker 1: was on the real housewives of Beverly Hills for one season,
47:10
Speaker 1: who was rumored to be a madam. And she actually
47:13
Speaker 1: talked about it on that season of real housewives of
47:15
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. Like, and when you think about the greater
47:19
Speaker 1: web of sex trafficking and what's going on in Dubai
47:23
Speaker 1: and the yacht girls and all of this, it's all connected. Yep.
47:28
Speaker 1: You can see how, This might have caught her up
47:32
Speaker 1: a little bit if she's even this much, a smidge
47:35
Speaker 1: trying to expose some of it.
47:36
Speaker 2: Oh, totally. And that's the other thing that the conspiracy
47:39
Speaker 2: theory is that like anytime these celebrities do try to
47:42
Speaker 2: come out and try to say what's really going on,
47:44
Speaker 2: they usually end up either dead or disappeared for a while.
47:50
Speaker 1: Or nuts.
47:51
Speaker 2: Or nuts like Britney Spears as an example.
47:54
Speaker 1: That one guy who's always talking about how he was
47:57
Speaker 1: taken advantage of or the guy who jumped off the bridge.
47:59
Speaker 2: Yeah. Are you talking about Orlando Brown?
48:01
Speaker 1: Yes. And then the guy who jumped off the bridge
48:03
Speaker 1: was talking about Tom Hanks, I think, right?
48:05
Speaker 2: God, what was his name?
48:06
Speaker 1: What was his name? I forget it. Oh, gosh, I
48:08
Speaker 1: don't know.
48:08
Speaker 2: But there's so many examples of this.
48:09
Speaker 1: But even Nicki Minaj came out recently and talked about
48:13
Speaker 1: they eating babies out here. Yep. Like, this is actually
48:16
Speaker 1: happening out here.
48:17
Speaker 3: Yep.
48:18
Speaker 1: So we wrestle not against flesh and blood, everybody, but like,
48:21
Speaker 1: rest in peace, beautiful Hayden Panettiere, because you brought so
48:26
Speaker 1: much light and entertainment and... good vibrations to the planet
48:32
Speaker 1: when the planet needed it the most. And so fly on. Yeah.
48:36
Speaker 2: Yeah.
48:36
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48:41
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48:44
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