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Show Rewind 10-28-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM, 560 AM, WVOC,
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  Speaker 1: and 94.3 WSC.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Hi there.
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  Speaker 4: This is Kelly Nash. Christopher Thompson, how are.
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  Speaker 3: You this morning?
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  Speaker 5: I'm good.
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  Speaker 6: Good.
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  Speaker 3: Ready for a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you didn't happen to try to watch the World
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  Speaker 4: Series last night, did you?
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  Speaker 3: Not at all. Goodness gracious. What time did that thing end?
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  Speaker 3: Like 1 a.m.? Yeah, it was into the morning. Goodness gracious.
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  Speaker 4: I just heard on the top of the hour news break,
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  Speaker 4: the guy saying, we'll see you later tonight.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's an after midnight call then.
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  Speaker 4: Yep. So good news for baseball fans. I'm interested to
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  Speaker 4: see how the ratings for this World Series are. I'm
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  Speaker 4: afraid it's going to be pitiful because you have two
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  Speaker 4: smaller market clubs and what has been so far kind
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  Speaker 4: of a blowout series. And I know baseball has been,
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  Speaker 4: they would have loved, To have had, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: the Guardians would have been, I guess, a better story.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bigger market. Obviously, the Dodgers are huge. That
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  Speaker 4: would have been great. And maybe if they could have
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  Speaker 4: got like some sort of Northeastern club, you know, obviously
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  Speaker 4: I always want my Yankees in there, but Boston or
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  Speaker 4: somebody in a bigger market. But Tampa, Tampa does not
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  Speaker 4: have a big baseball crowd. I used to go down
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  Speaker 4: to Tampa a lot and see the Yankees in spring training.
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  Speaker 4: But then later on, I'd go back in the summer
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  Speaker 4: and I'd go to the what do they call that
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  Speaker 4: thing that the inside baseball stadium they have?
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  Speaker 3: It's like the tropical Canada.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The trop. I mean, and the thing would be
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  Speaker 3: half full at best. At best.
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  Speaker 4: And the thing that I liked about it was that
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  Speaker 4: it was air conditioned. And I was like, you people
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  Speaker 4: don't know how good you got it. You know, you
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  Speaker 4: go to Yankee Stadium in the summertime, it's brutal. But anyway, baseball.
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  Speaker 7: Enjoy the baseball while you can because it looks like
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  Speaker 7: we're headed to a lockout.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. This just never ends with these people.
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  Speaker 8: Nope.
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  Speaker 4: Um and now i haven't been following the wnba but
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  Speaker 4: i understand that they they continue to walk off the
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  Speaker 4: court during.
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  Speaker 7: The national anthem that's yeah i think that i didn't
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  Speaker 7: see the last game but i know that in previous
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  Speaker 7: games they had yes and then.
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  Speaker 4: There i saw yesterday i think a news story about
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  Speaker 4: where they were possibly going to adjust the finals schedule
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  Speaker 4: and i i didn't understand exactly why but when I
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  Speaker 4: looked at the adjustments, I was like, well, that's stupid.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to play on a Sunday, um, and, and
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  Speaker 3: go up against the NFL. You think that's good. That's
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  Speaker 3: a good idea. And then the other one was going
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  Speaker 3: to be on election day.
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  Speaker 7: Well, the next game is going to be in the
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  Speaker 7: middle of the day and the Valkyries could win it,
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  Speaker 7: but that's the only time if you were going to
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  Speaker 7: have two games in Atlanta in the same arena, because
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  Speaker 7: you know, Atlanta's team normally plays in a very small arena.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: The NBA has allowed them to play in state farm arena, uh, However,
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  Speaker 7: the Hawks have a game that night.
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  Speaker 3: So they're having.
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  Speaker 7: To play two games in one day at the arena
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  Speaker 7: with two different courts. So they've got to change out
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  Speaker 7: the courts in between games. It's a huge logistics nightmare.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: So now the Valkyries, who are from the West Coast,
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  Speaker 7: are going to play a game and possibly win their
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  Speaker 7: first WNBA championship at noon or 1230, I think is
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  Speaker 7: tip time. So they may be playing at 9 o'clock
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  Speaker 7: on the West Coast.
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  Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed to admit this. Maybe I'm not embarrassed. Who
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  Speaker 4: do the Valkyries represent?
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  Speaker 3: What city is that? That's Golden State. The Golden State Valkyries.
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  Speaker 3: What is a Valkyrie? Do we know?
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  Speaker 7: It's a mythical thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a mythical thing. Okay. Perfect.
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  Speaker 5: Now, look.
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  Speaker 4: If you can learn something new every day, you've accomplished something.
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  Speaker 4: I just learned that the Valkyries are first a mythical
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  Speaker 4: thing and that they're from Golden State. I'm guessing that
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  Speaker 4: would be the Bay Area of California.
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  Speaker 3: San Francisco, yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 4: So you and I just, maybe you just learned something
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  Speaker 4: new as well.
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  Speaker 3: So mission accomplished. We've already had a successful day.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up a little bit later on in the broadcast,
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  Speaker 4: we had Annie Andrews in the building yesterday. She said
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  Speaker 4: a lot of things. I was actually shocked. her response
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  Speaker 4: to the LGBTQ community. We'll get you parts of that.
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  Speaker 4: We're not going to play the entire interview. The whole
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  Speaker 4: thing goes about 18 minutes, but we will play snippets
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  Speaker 4: throughout the broadcast. Also, I asked the question that she
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  Speaker 4: says she has never heard. Now, last time she was here,
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  Speaker 4: I thought I was going to get her with the,
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  Speaker 4: which one of the Supreme Court justices would you say
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  Speaker 4: is your favorite or least favorite and why, basically trying
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  Speaker 4: to put her into a position to explain what she
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  Speaker 4: would be looking for in a.
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  Speaker 3: Supreme Court justice.
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  Speaker 4: And she said, boy, that's like the third time I've
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  Speaker 4: been asked that question, always by the conservative news talk hosts.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, dang it.
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  Speaker 4: But yesterday's question, Christopher, you run as the most moderate
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  Speaker 4: person I've ever seen. You're right in the center. Why
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  Speaker 4: would you never be a Republican?
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  Speaker 9: Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Good question. And she was like, and there was a
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  Speaker 3: long pause before she gets into that because she knows
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  Speaker 3: she's talking to a Republican audience.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Why would she never join us? What makes it untainable?
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  Speaker 4: She could never put that Republican name next to her name,
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  Speaker 4: even knowing that, again, her dad is allegedly a lifelong Republican. Also,
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  Speaker 4: another question I asked, would your dad have supported Lindsey
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  Speaker 4: Graham still?
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  Speaker 3: Or did Lindsey Graham shift?
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  Speaker 4: Or did she I mean, obviously, he voted for you
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  Speaker 4: in the midterms because you're his daughter. And that's the
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  Speaker 4: kind of thing that parents will do. They'll support their
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  Speaker 4: their kids no matter what. But what if you weren't
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  Speaker 4: on the ballot, if it was just a generic centrist Democrat?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that she's a centrist. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: saying she's running as one.
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  Speaker 4: Would you would you think your dad would have voted
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  Speaker 4: for for the centrist or would they have to still
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  Speaker 4: continue to support Lindsey Graham? These are all these types
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  Speaker 4: of questions that I think a lot of people need
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  Speaker 4: to ask themselves about themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Would you support Lindsey Graham?
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  Speaker 4: And if you would, what about Darlene Graham makes you
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  Speaker 4: think I can't support her? Why are you sitting that
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  Speaker 4: one out? I had a long discussion with somebody yesterday
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  Speaker 4: about that. Well, maybe we'll talk about that. I think
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  Speaker 4: I won Darlene a vote. So for you Graham people
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  Speaker 4: who keep badgering me that I'm too rough on Darlene Graham,
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  Speaker 4: I actually got her a vote yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Off the air. Maybe we'll get a few more on
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  Speaker 3: the air today. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. And if it's speaking about being
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  Speaker 4: on the air, we'd love to have you on the air.
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  Speaker 4: That's what the talkback feature is about. You hit that
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  Speaker 4: button there. It's a little microphone. When you're listening on
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  Speaker 4: the totally free iHeartRadio app, we'd love to put you
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  Speaker 4: on with Christopher Thompson and myself. Thanks for starting your
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  Speaker 4: day with South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
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  Speaker 1: Morning News.
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  Speaker 3: All right, a lot going on today.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up just after 7 o'clock, we're going to hear
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  Speaker 4: from Rick Quinn. He has done an analysis on the
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  Speaker 4: spending in this Senate race, specifically just for South Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: And there are some very interesting numbers in there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was very.
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  Speaker 3: Intrigued by those numbers.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll break those down just after seven o'clock. Also
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  Speaker 4: coming up a little bit later on today, the South
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  Speaker 4: Carolina Policy Council had their new polls yesterday. It was
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  Speaker 4: finally dropped after we got off the air. So we
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  Speaker 4: will talk to one of the guys behind that. That
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  Speaker 4: comes up at 8.30 this morning, 8.33-ish, something like that.
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  Speaker 4: In the meantime, we were joined yesterday in the studio
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  Speaker 4: by The good doctor, Annie. Now, some people say, well,
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  Speaker 4: you can't call her the good doctor. People are so sensitive.
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  Speaker 3: Annie, Dr. Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 4: And the question that I teased going into the break
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  Speaker 4: just then, would your father have supported.
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  Speaker 3: Lindsey Graham if Lindsey Graham was still on the ballot?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he would vote it against you. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: dads are going to vote for their daughters. But if
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  Speaker 4: it was you versus, I mean, or Lindsey Graham versus
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  Speaker 4: a centrist, or did something change?
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  Speaker 10: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 11: I can't speak for him. I think it probably would
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  Speaker 11: have been a difficult decision for him. I think he
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  Speaker 11: did respect Lindsey Graham and his long record of public
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  Speaker 11: service for the state of South Carolina. My dad is
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  Speaker 11: like so many Republicans that I've heard from, including former
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  Speaker 11: Republican Governor David Beasley, who endorsed my campaign yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Way to slide that in.
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  Speaker 12: Who just feel.
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  Speaker 11: You know, left behind by the current version of their party,
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  Speaker 11: frustrated with their sort of loss of focus on fiscal conservatism.
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  Speaker 11: You know, the starting of this war overseas was really
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  Speaker 11: unpopular with my dad. And, of course, my dad was
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  Speaker 11: with me in 2022 when I ran for Congress as well.
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  Speaker 11: And he watched, you know, just the ugly side of
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  Speaker 11: politics when it comes for your daughter that kind of
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  Speaker 11: makes you reconsider things. But I just think, you know,
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  Speaker 11: my dad's not seeking to be a Democrat. He told
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  Speaker 11: me that he'll never be a Democrat or identify as
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  Speaker 11: a Democrat.
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  Speaker 10: He wants his old party back.
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  Speaker 11: And I think he understands, you know, regardless of me
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  Speaker 11: being his daughter or not, that the way to get
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  Speaker 11: the old Republican Party back is to to not vote
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  Speaker 11: for them in their current iteration. And I think Darlene
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  Speaker 11: Graham has sort of become a poster child of what's wrong.
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  Speaker 11: with this version of the Republican Party because she's just,
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  Speaker 11: they're trying to buy this Senate seat out from under us.
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  Speaker 11: These data center companies, insurance companies, they're trying to buy
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  Speaker 11: this Senate seat, control her vote. South Carolina cannot afford
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  Speaker 11: to hand the six-year Senate term to someone like that.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take a pause right there.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, if you want to hear all of
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  Speaker 4: that interview, and again, like I said, it goes about 17,
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  Speaker 4: 18 minutes with Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Andrews.
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  Speaker 4: We have that on the National Briefing Podcast, and that's
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  Speaker 4: spelt like my name. That does not go up on
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  Speaker 4: the social media. For those of you who like to
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  Speaker 4: live stream the show, thank you for watching us, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's on YouTube or Facebook or X at Kelly Nash Radio.
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  Speaker 4: And I also put up my daily morning National Briefing
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  Speaker 4: Podcast there. But The interviews are not recorded for social
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  Speaker 4: media purpose. We don't have any video of those things.
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  Speaker 4: So you just have to listen to it on the podcast.
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  Speaker 4: And again, all the podcasts, whether they're on video or not,
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  Speaker 4: are all up on the iHeartRadio app on the National
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  Speaker 4: Briefing Podcast.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 4: And when we come back, Christopher, and I will respond
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  Speaker 4: to this idea that you can't turn power over to
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  Speaker 4: the establishment. This feels very right in Ralphish to me.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see what you're thinking too. Maybe you have some thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: Use the talk back feature on the I heart radio
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  Speaker 4: app back in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news on one Oh three,
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  Speaker 13: Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews, obviously a big subject of concern.
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  Speaker 3: I told her to her face. I am concerned. I
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  Speaker 3: am very concerned that you're going to win.
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  Speaker 4: And, uh, She is here to try to sway over
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  Speaker 4: some Republicans to vote for her. She believes she has
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  Speaker 4: a great message for you. We heard a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of it right there. Christopher Thompson, her thoughts there that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Darlene Graham represents the establishment, and we can't
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  Speaker 4: afford as South Carolinians to turn over six years of
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  Speaker 4: Senate hood to the establishment.
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  Speaker 14: Thoughts?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's, I mean, her appointment.
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  Speaker 7: felt like the establishment was putting her into place and
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  Speaker 7: that's part of the problem people have is you know
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  Speaker 7: she didn't win office she took over she was essentially
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  Speaker 7: a placeholder for her brother and then suddenly she's in
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  Speaker 7: the race thanks to trump and mcmaster and people feel
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  Speaker 7: like all right that's the establishment making a move that
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  Speaker 7: i wanted to make myself you know at the ballot box.
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  Speaker 4: Did we I mean, I feel like I completely hear
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  Speaker 4: what you're saying and you are voicing the opinions of
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  Speaker 4: a lot of Republicans right now. But did we miss
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  Speaker 4: that whole primary thing? I feel like we had your shot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you could have elected, you know, Mark Sanford. You could
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  Speaker 4: have gone with Ralph Norman. You could have gone with
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  Speaker 4: Russell Fry. I mean, you had a you had a smorgasbord.
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  Speaker 4: Of conservatives that you could have chosen from.
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  Speaker 1: True.
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  Speaker 3: And the majority picked Darlene Graham.
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  Speaker 7: But the others didn't have the power of the president
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  Speaker 7: behind them with all that money that came in late
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  Speaker 7: in support of Darlene Graham and a presidential visit to
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  Speaker 7: Myrtle Beach.
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  Speaker 3: That certainly helped.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly.
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  Speaker 4: But is that not his, you know, does he not
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  Speaker 4: have the right to pick a candidate that he would
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  Speaker 4: like to support?
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  Speaker 3: Agreed.
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  Speaker 7: Again, you asked a question. I'm just arguing the point
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  Speaker 7: that these write-in Ralph Norman folks are making.
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  Speaker 4: I would push back on them as I would on
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  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews that we could not afford six years of
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  Speaker 4: someone helping the socialists. And that's exactly what a Democrat
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  Speaker 4: vote would do. And if you're using your vote to
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  Speaker 4: write in Ralph, that's exactly.
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  Speaker 3: What you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: I know you don't want to hear that. You want
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  Speaker 4: to say that I'm sending a message. There is no message.
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  Speaker 4: trust me, there's nobody keeping notes in D.C. as to
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  Speaker 4: what you want. And you can look at that on
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  Speaker 4: the Democrat or the Republican side. In Maine, they realized
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  Speaker 4: that the Nazi sympathizer was a bridge too far, and
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  Speaker 4: they replaced him with somebody who's impregnated his first cousin twice.
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  Speaker 4: That is not a good candidate. And that guy is
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  Speaker 4: socially awkward at best. You know, look across the board.
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  Speaker 4: You've got a pro-jihadist running for the Senate in Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: You've got, you've got Talafrico who's talking about how Jesus
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  Speaker 4: would come down and condemn anybody who is against transing children.
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  Speaker 4: We have all kinds of bad candidates on the left
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  Speaker 4: and the right. I did hear a pastor with an
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  Speaker 4: interesting take the other day, and I thought this was
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  Speaker 4: a good, your job as a Christian is not to
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  Speaker 4: pick a saint to run for office. One of the
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  Speaker 4: things of a Christian is to be salt. And what
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  Speaker 4: salt is, is something that slows, doesn't end, slows decay.
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  Speaker 4: We believe that the left accelerates decay. And if you're
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  Speaker 4: trying to slow decay, you may not have a perfect candidate,
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  Speaker 4: but you have someone in Darlene Graham who will certainly
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  Speaker 4: vote with you minimum 85, 90% of the time, minimum.
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  Speaker 4: as opposed to Annie Andrews, who would vote with you roughly, what, 10%, 15%?
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  Speaker 4: If you're trying to slow the decay of society, if
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  Speaker 4: you're trying to slow the decay of our government, you
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  Speaker 4: have to vote for Darlene Graham. Ralph does not have
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity to win. I saw a headline in Fitz
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  Speaker 4: News where he's doubling down now. I wish he wasn't
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  Speaker 4: doing that, but apparently— He was asked if he would
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  Speaker 4: campaign with her, which is the same question I asked him,
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  Speaker 4: but he got a little more upset about it and said,
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  Speaker 4: I would never campaign with that fraud of a candidate.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa. I wish he hadn't said that.
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  Speaker 4: And the base for him is fired up and they're
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  Speaker 4: going to fight till the end with him. And I
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  Speaker 4: understand that fighting spirit, but also there's tactical decisions that
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  Speaker 4: need to be made. Sometimes you have to retreat in
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  Speaker 4: order to regroup. And then take over the bridge or
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  Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. In this instance, you are
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  Speaker 4: not going to get the candidate of your dreams. Darlene
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  Speaker 4: Graham is not that individual. But Darlene Graham will vote
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  Speaker 4: with you 85, 90% of the time as opposed to
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  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews. And those are your two legitimate shots or
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  Speaker 4: two legitimate choices. I understand there's a Casey Whitener movement. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: that's at 3% right now, maybe 4%.
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  Speaker 3: Right in Ralph.
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  Speaker 7: Might be at four or five. Yeah, I wonder where
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  Speaker 7: those numbers are.
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  Speaker 4: Well, because I'm looking at the, you know, if you
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  Speaker 4: look anywhere from like the ag commissioner to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just about every other Republican is in double digits.
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  Speaker 3: Double digit leads. Not in this race. We are in
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  Speaker 3: a dead heat.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to talk a little bit after seven o'clock
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  Speaker 4: with Rick Quinn, who's been tracking the spending on that.
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  Speaker 4: And it's fascinating to see where the money's coming from.
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  Speaker 4: Who is it going for and what markets are they
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: spending it in South Carolina?
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  Speaker 3: We'll break that down after 7 o'clock.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Of course, if you've got thoughts on this race or
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: other things, please use the Talk Back feature.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: And thanks for starting your day with South Carolina's Morning News.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, we're back at it. Kelly Nash here. Christopher Thompson there.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: And yesterday at Holy Harvard.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: They had a very.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Special guest, the Nepo baby known as Liz Cheney, the
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Never Trumper. And, you know, it's funny because for those
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: of you who don't remember Liz Cheney as what she
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: was before Donald Trump, she was basically the most, she
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: probably was more pro-war than Lindsey Graham. When the people
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: joke about Lindsey Graham, what did Donald Trump say?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: He never met a war he didn't like.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Liz Cheney was in love with all wars. And that's
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: because her dad made all his money off of defense.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Dick Cheney was the vice president, but he also was
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: very involved, very involved with defense contracting. And her whole
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: career was based off the fact that she was Dick
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Cheney's daughter. And she started in the 80s as a
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: young person working her way into the defense department and
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: other places based off dad's recommendations. And then When she
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: ran for office and didn't get it, she ended up
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: on Fox News. She was like the guest host for
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Hannity for years. And then she decided she was going
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: to run for the Senate. And that thing fell apart
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: real quick. And then she decided to try to go
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: back to work for the government. She got some more
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: NEPO jobs. And then finally, she, I think it was 2017,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: was sworn in as a House member. And again, just rah, rah, rah.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Let's get more defense going, more droning, more bombing. Let's
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: keep that going. Dad needs another dollar. And then along
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: came Donald Trump and then she and Trump didn't see
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: things eye to eye on a lot of different things.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: And then she voted to impeach him and all these
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: other things. And then she ends up on the outs
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: because of that stance that she took. Anyway, she's back
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: in the news. And, you know, again, the left loves her.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: That's why she's at Harvard yesterday, because she's got so
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: much wisdom to share with the kids. Although if they
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: had they never would have dreamed of inviting her back.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Pre Trump, you know, or pre any of this stuff,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: she'd have been like, nah, that lady's crazy. But Liz
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Cheney was asked a question. And here's where Liz, the
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: never Trumper and Kelly Nash can actually agree on one thing,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: although we're going to separate real.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Quick, like is. Should we be afraid of socialism like
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump says we should be?
• 18:56
  Speaker 10: I agree we should be opposed to socialism.
• 18:59
  Speaker 15: But this president has used taxpayer dollars to take stakes
• 19:04
  Speaker 15: in private companies that we haven't seen before. And it's
• 19:07
  Speaker 15: just sort of one example of this fundamental move away
• 19:11
  Speaker 15: from what the party used to stand for.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: OK, yeah, correct.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I I have opposed Donald Trump using taxpayers money to
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: invest in companies. I think that that sends a bad message.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I think it also has a the potential to look
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: as if we are trying to help a company because
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: we get a return on the investment. So I don't
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: like it. It's not socialism. It's clearly not socialism. We
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: don't own the company outright. We're not we're not in
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: complete control. But you've never seen this. You've never seen this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Did you just tap out on TARP? You didn't see TARP.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: You didn't see when we spent $ 50 billion to prop
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: up General Motors, which then was rebranded as Government Motors?
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: The difference being that Trump was against the GM deal
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: back in the day. He used to talk about it
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: all the time. He wasn't running for president. He would
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: just go on talk shows and talk about, this.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Guy Obama's a total idiot.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: He's a moron.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: He's just giving away money.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: And his point being that we should have had a
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: vested interest in General Motors, that it should be a
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: profit-sharing thing. We basically should be looking at it as
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: somebody who just invested $ 50 billion in General Motors stocks,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: and we should get a return on that.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Instead, the U.S. taxpayers lost about $ 11.
• 20:26
  Speaker 15: 2 billion.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Billion dollars.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: By the way, that prop up started under her father's
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: administration with George W.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Bush. You know, and good point.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: And let me just go back to the earlier point
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: of do voters learn lessons? OK, did anybody learn a
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: lesson from Ross Perot? Because Bush would have won that
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: campaign if had it not been for Ross Perot. So
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: then you would think, oh, okay, well, there was this
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: big write-in Ross movement, and he ended up with like
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: almost 20% of the vote and threw everything into chaos,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and Bill Clinton became the president. Who did eventually replace
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Bill Clinton? Was it a completely different animal than George Bush?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Who came?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: It was the guy with the exact same freaking name.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: George Bush replaced George Bush, just different senator names. I
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: mean- No, Republicans are not learning any lessons. Nobody's keeping
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: track on that. But Liz Cheney's point about we're going
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: into a socialist environment because Donald Trump is taking a
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: position with the U.S. taxpayers' money in certain companies that
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: he believes need help getting propped up, I don't agree
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: with that position. But that's not even— The illusion of socialism.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Was Liz Cheney on the campus of the University of
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Michigan the other day when nobody could define what socialism was?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Is that what's going on over here? I don't know
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: what's happening to these people. And the people at Harvard
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: all applauding.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: The people at Harvard don't know the difference between socialism, communism, capitalism.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: It's so frustrating, Christopher. We live in such bizarre times.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: I have a couple of talkbacks and an email to
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: read to you when we come back.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. All right. We're going to fire up the
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: talkback machine.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: You've fired everyone up with your discussion of Darlene Graham
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: and Ralph Norman.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Thank you for getting engaged with that. Maybe you want
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: to talk about socialism as well. And Liz Cheney, you
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: can hit the talkback machine for that as well. And
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Christopher's got emails to read. We get your letters. We
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: get your letters every day.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll get into all of that and more. Thanks
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: for starting the day with South Carolina's Morning News.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: So the Wright and Ralph Brigade are going to put
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the hurt feelings of a narcissist, who looks like a
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: narcissist anyway, over the.
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: Well-being of our party and of the entire nation.
• 22:51
  Speaker 16: Thank you so very much.
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: Hey Kelly and Christopher, this is Andy in Somerville. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: think a lot of Republicans are upset over the pandering
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: and just getting in line of our Congress, standing behind
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: the president no matter what, going all the way back
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: to the confirmation hearings of, say, Hegseth and Kennedy and
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: some other questionable choices. We have people in these jobs
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: that aren't qualified for the jobs, and I think people
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: are just tired of what's going on and want change.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Andy in Somerville. We didn't get a name
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: on the first talk back, did we, Christopher? But also
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: another good point. And again, we're.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Seeing I saw the headline and I.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Think it was Fox News that said, you know, riff
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: in Republican Party in South Carolina could lead to first
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Democrat elected in decades to the Senate.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And it is a riff.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: And, you know, people are taking positions. Some, by the way,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I remember in the primaries, we heard from a bunch
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: of people who were very pro Darlene. They love the
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: fact that she is not. A politician. They love the
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: fact that she is an outsider in that degree. And
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I think that this campaign has made it abundantly clear
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: she's not a professional politician.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: She is. No doubt about that. I do have a.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Statement here that was sent to me yesterday from the
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Citizens for Life talking about David Beasley. Because remember, Annie
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: not only got the Beasley endorsement, she had like a,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: it was like $ 100 million. Republicans for Annie Andrews. But
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: we had never heard of like 99 of those people.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: And the ones we had heard of had supported Democrats
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: in previous elections.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yes. And so this was their statement.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Governor Beasley has a long history of public service, and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: we respect his desire to bring people together in a
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: time of bitter political division. But unity cannot come at
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: the expense of the most fundamental human rights, the right
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: to life. Annie Andrews has made her position on abortion
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: abundantly clear. She was publicly pledged to restore Roe v. Wade,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: the Supreme Court decision that resulted in the deaths of
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: more than 65 million unborn children. Governor Beasley has devoted
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: much of his public life to humanitarian causes, defending the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: dignity of vulnerable people around the world. How how then?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Can he endorse a candidate whose stated political agenda supports
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: the killing of millions of future unborn children, including tens
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: of thousands here in South Carolina?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Good question. Fair question.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's exactly what former Governor Beasley did. A
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: lot of people were making hay out of the fact
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: that Beasley and Hodges, the only two, I think, in
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: our lifetime that didn't win reelection.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: So we get two losers as people. You got losers
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: supporting losers over there.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 25:44
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• 25:48
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• 25:48
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• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Rick Quinn will be joining the show just after the
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: top of the hour. Tell us about where the money
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: is being spent so far in this Senate race and
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: where will it be spent in the final week? And
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of money. Oh, there's a lot of
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: money still to come. This is interesting stuff. And what
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: kind of effect is it having? We'll talk about the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: polling as well and how that's been shifted. This Senate
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: race is one that they're talking about all across the country.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: All eyes are now on focused here in South Carolina.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: We're at the epicenter of it, and we'll get into
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: more of it next.
• 26:25
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• 26:40
  Speaker 4: And good morning. Kelly Nash here with Rick Quinn on
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the phone. Good morning to you, sir.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: Morning, Kelly.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm fascinated by this report that I saw you
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: put out yesterday looking at the spending that's going on
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: in this South Carolina Senate race.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: A lot of money being spent, obviously.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: And last week was a big week when it comes
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: to the amount of money that was booked and spent $ 12. 1
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: million on TV, radio, and digital for the week. And
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: the Democrats looks like a were just nudged by the Republicans.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I think 6.27 for the Republicans and 5.8 for the
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Democrats last week. But you get really detailed on like
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: the groups that are investing into these races and where
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: they're spending it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: What are you seeing when you look at that?
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Well, it's historically is beginning to rival what happened in
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: 2020 when Jamie Harrison ran for the Senate against Lindsey Graham.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: You know, that had become a nationalized race and, This
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: race is largely being funded by out-of-state interest groups. And
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: I think that kind of makes this race a little different.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: And really, if you track the money, the government that
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: works PAC, which is, I think, a total of that
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: $ 12 million you mentioned, this is about $ 5 million of that,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: comes from that group. And that group is directly tied
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: to Chuck Schumer's majority PAC. And so this race has
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: become nationalized, and both parties are funding it. And make
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: no mistake about it, it's a very partisan fight.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, we're talking with Rick Quinn from Resonance Media.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking that I read recently that actually Darlene Graham,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: the candidate, has not been very good at fundraising. And
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: so there had been some frustration by a lot of
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Republicans in this state that they weren't seeing any Darlene Andrews,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: excuse me, Darlene Graham ads. And that was not a
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: strategic move or anything like they were saving their powder.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: They just didn't have any money.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: So it was really these outside packs that came in
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and actually started giving her a presence in media.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Is that correct?
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Oh, that is, you know, because of the circumstances of
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Lindsey Graham's death and the kind of the truncated election
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: process and nominating her, she really doesn't have any local
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: fundraising networks yet. So the consequence of that is the
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Democrats and Chuck Schumer kind of seized the day and
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: put a bunch of money in, particularly last week, like
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: I said, that $ 5 million from the government that works PAC.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: And then what happened immediately after that is the Republican,
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: National Republican Group Senate Leadership PAC and Leadership Fund, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: should say, predominantly in the National Republican Committee invested to
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: try to counter that. And so it's interesting to me
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: that everybody likes to talk about how well you want
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: to reach cross-party lines and you want to have an
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: election that represents all the people. This is a fight
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: between the two national parties.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what's happening.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: It isn't about force and effort at all.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: So interesting to me that when you talk to, because
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: you break it down by geography and the upstate is
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: where I think most of the money was spent. And
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of that was spent by the Democrats up there,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I guess, trying to flip Republicans because the upstate has
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: been like the epicenter of the right wing and And
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: then typically as you get closer to the ocean, you
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: kind of– well, not Horry County, but more down towards Charleston, Beaufort,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: you kind of get more of the Democrats. You get
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of Democrats right here in the Midlands where
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: we're based. But the Democrats were spending pretty heavy in
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: the upstate.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Kelly, I'm actually in the field this week
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: with a poll, and that is– you latched on to
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: one of the things that I find most interesting about this.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: Typically the upstate is the Republican-rich area. area of South
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: Carolina in terms of the ratio of Republican and Democrat
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: votes that are cast. And the Democrats are investing so
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: heavily there. That kind of mirrors what I've been seeing
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: in our early polling that we discussed a week or
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: two ago. And I hopefully will be able to talk
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: to you Friday or the latest Monday about my last
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: poll for this election cycle. But that is where the
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: battleground is. And it's just fascinating to me as a
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: student of politics, that typically would be the exact opposite.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: The Democrats would normally invest more in the Midlands and
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: on the coastal regions, as you mentioned. But this fight,
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: the epicenter of it is in the Greenville, what they
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: call the DMA, the Greenville Advertising Market, which is about
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: seven counties.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: In the upstate. Rick Quinn on the phone. I'm going
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: to ask you to speculate.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: And that's I know this is you're not paid necessarily
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: to speculate, but I'm not paying you anything.
• 31:29
  Speaker 17: So let me just ask you this question, Rick, because
• 31:35
  Speaker 17: what Christopher Thompson and I and a lot of other
• 31:39
  Speaker 17: people have been saying is this is really all midterms are.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Really about trying to get your base right.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: To the polls, because you look at a typical midterm,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: it's usually going to be about 50 percent of registered
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: voters show up. And then if you look at a
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: typical presidential election, it's 70, 75 percent registered people turn out.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: So if you can get more of your base to
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: the to the polls, you're probably going to win, especially
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: in a state like South Carolina for the Republicans. If
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: they can get more of their base to the polls,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: they're going to win. When you see the Democrats making
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: this buy in the upstate, which, again, is not where
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: the Democrats live. They live in the low country. Do
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: you perceive a strategic shift here that they're just trying
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: to find angry Republicans and get them to flip?
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: There's just some of that. I also think, again, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: think the truncated process, how the nominating occurred, it was
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: such a short process. When Lindsey Graham passed and then
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: there was this really short primary, very narrow election, there's
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: some disaffected vote in the upstate, and I think the
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Democrats are trying to seize on it. And, you know, look,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: as a predominantly Republican consultant, it's just interesting to me
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: that you have some Republican officials coming forward, former Republican officials. Saying, well,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: you know, Andy Andrews wants to reach across party lines. Well,
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: the fact of the matter is this is a party fight.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: It's a Democrat versus Republican fight. This is what it is.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Anybody to try to cast it differently is being disingenuous
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: to the voters. And proof positive of that is that
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: this race is so close that they're willing to spend
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: millions of dollars in a predominantly Republican area. Just to
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: try to get a point or two, I think my poll,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: when we're done at the end of this week, when
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: you and I talk again, we're going to find that
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: this race is so close that it's worth millions of
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: dollars to the Democrats to spend it in the upstate,
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: just to try to get a few votes in that area.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: We're now six days away from Election Day, and the
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: spending does not stop. How much are we expecting now
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: to be spent over the next few days?
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: Well, I would expect it is going to mirror what
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: happened last week, and that $ 12 million figure will become
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: more like $ 20 million. What's really happened, and if you
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: look even a little further back, there's been about– You know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: somewhere in the neighborhood of $ 40 million that's been invested
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: by these outside groups in the last, let's say, four weeks.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: And I think that'll continue to bolster. And by the way,
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: that report, you know, there's a little lag there. The
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: report I gave you is still coming in. You know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: every day there'll be more money that actually comes up
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: on the public reporting system, which is what this is
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: really what I use to gather this information. It's all
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: available from publicly reported sources.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And your reports, that does not include the direct mail pieces,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: does it?
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: No, it doesn't. That's just what they call paid media.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: So that would include broadcast television, satellite, streaming services like
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: YouTube TV and Hulu Plus are in there as well.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: But no direct mail, no phones, the paid workers that
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: you're seeing knocking on doors in neighborhoods now. those kind
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: of ground game funds are not included in this at all.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable amount of money being spent here in South Carolina.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Well, Rick Quinn, certainly appreciate you taking some time to
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: share this insights with us and Resonance Media doing a
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: fantastic job. Looking forward to your final poll coming up.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: I'll talk to you soon, Kelly. You'll be the first
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: to know.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Outstanding.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Rick Quinn. Back in a moment
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: with South Carolina's Morning News.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: From the midlands to the low country, this is South
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Carolina's Morning News.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: All right, we just got off the phone with Rick Quinn,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: who was breaking down the spending in this Senate race,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and Christopher, we're heading back towards historic dollars being spent.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: We didn't think that Jamie Harrison race, Jamie Harrison-Lindsey Graham race,
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: would be touched in terms of numbers, maybe ever again.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: And as Rick pointed out, we're on a record-setting pace
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: once again. And the amazing thing he told you is
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: how much money is being spent in a Republican stronghold
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: by Democrats. They sense the unrest. They sense the unease
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: that a lot of Republicans have with their candidate.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: To me, the thing that's very interesting, that point, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: also how it seems to have no effect on any
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: other race.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: True.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: All the polling shows pretty much Double-digit leads for the
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Republicans in South Carolina, except in this one race. Although
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: I did see a poll that has Darlene Graham. Matter
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: of fact, what's his name?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Nick put this up.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: President Trump's rally for Graham in Pendleton on October 21st
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: may be remembered as the turning point in the election.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Andrews was one point behind prior to that visit. After
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: the rally, Graham has now shot up seven points higher.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: That shift geographically concentrated in the Greenville, Spartanburg, Asheville, Anderson DMA.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Graham was ahead by 6% in the upstate before the rally.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Currently has a 17-point lead there.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Nick Reynolds of the Post and Courier posted that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I saw that. My question is this.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: If Republicans who are uneasy with their candidate, if they
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: heard Rick Quinn just a moment ago saying all this
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: money for Annie Andrews is being spent by Chuck Schumer's PAC,
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: would they change their minds? If they heard that, would
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: they change their minds? That's who's supporting Annie Andrews.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: When you say that they're uneasy. Yeah. I mean, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: that was my point. I think I made it a
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: little bit earlier.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: But again, to my friend that I was flipping for
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Darlene Graham yesterday, he was going to vote all Republican
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: except in that one because he does not like Darlene.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: And I my point to him was you're then surrendering
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: the seat. If you surrender the seat, what are the
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: consequences of surrendering the seat? So, but yeah, a lot
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: of dough still coming down the pike this week. They
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: are 20 million or so just in like broadcast media
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: coming down this week.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable amount of money. If you've got thoughts, is it
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: flipping you?
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Has anybody been influenced by, I always wonder how much
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: does the ads actually make a difference? Has anybody saw
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: an ad and go, you know what? Now that I
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: think about it, I'll vote for that other candidate.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Let us know. Use the talkback feature. This is South
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Carolina's Morning News.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: When I was a kid, there was a guy on television,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: a guy named Matthew Lesko. I don't think I ever
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: knew his name, but you'd see him pop up on, like,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: the Letterman Show and other things. But he was really
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: known for his... infomercials that seem to be running all
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: the time. And they would sound something like this.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Next year, the government is going to give out over
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: $ 350 billion.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: And those who know about the programs are the ones
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: who get the money.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: And he was selling a book that showed you how
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: to get free money from the government. I'm wondering if
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: that was the case in California. I'm reading a story
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: here in Just the News. A non-profit daycare that promised
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: 40 locations across California has received $ 18. 2 million from the
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: federal government and said that they were going to take
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: care of 1,048 children in at-risk communities. In reality, goodness gracious, Christopher.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm going to say what I'm about
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: to say.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: The investigation by some group called the Center Square, finds
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: that the Willis Law Foundation, that's the name of the
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: group that was having, again, 40 locations across California serving
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: over 1,000 at-risk children and has been collecting money now
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: for three years, opened their very first daycare.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: 15 days ago.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: What's been happening with all that money until now?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Well, the guy who started it, some guy with the
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: last name of Edwards. So I'm trying to figure out
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: his first name. Executive Director William Edwards has been paying
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: himself roughly $ 600, 000 a year plus $ 180, 000 annually in deferred compensation.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: also has to cover his health care costs and stuff. So, again,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: it's up to about a million dollars a year. They're
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: not really sure where the rest of the money's gone,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: possibly in the planning stages of how we're going to
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: help out all these at-risk children. Brian Mittendorf, an accounting
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: professor at Ohio State University, was asked to do a
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: review of their nonprofit tax filings and said, quote, I
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: have no idea what the government oversight was here. On
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: what basis did they think this could lead to success?
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Not anyone can just open a daycare center. What did
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: they do to justify receiving a grant for a very
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: particular type of service being provided? They don't seem to
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: have any special licenses. They don't seem to have had
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: anything other than a dream. And that dream seems to
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: have been to get our money. Maybe they read the book.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: You want to start a daycare center? The government's going
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: to hand out billions of dollars. And if you know
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: what to say, you're going to get it, said Matthew
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Lesko all those years ago. And apparently that's still true today.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe the Somalians got that book. Maybe back in the
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: 80s and 90s, they were shipping those books to Somalia.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. But again. For the last three years,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: you've been spending millions with this place.
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: All you have to do is throw out a phrase
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: like the homeless or at risk. And the government's just
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: willing to write you a check without even checking your references.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Crazy, crazy stuff. But again, no, we don't have a
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: fraud problem. It's a little isolated incidents here and there.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: What do you think about that story or others? We'll
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: try to get to some of your talkbacks coming up.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: This is South Carolina's morning news.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Live from the state Capitol. This is South Carolina's morning news.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: All right. Christopher Thompson, Kelly Nash. I just heard the
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: bottom of the hour news there. And, you know, I
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: feel like the old guy out there.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Get off my lawn.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I'm yelling at the kids. I don't like modernization or whatever,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: but that's not actually real, but I do not like
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: early voting. And the guy was just talking about how
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: he broke the records.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: And of course, I mean, if you're going to make
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: something easier, then people will take advantage of that. I
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: don't blame the people for taking advantage of early voting.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: And I myself may in fact go early vote to
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: try to avoid the lines. Um, However, I recognize this
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: is a great way for elections to be manipulated. I
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: don't like mail-in ballots. I don't like early voting. I
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: want it to be as secure as possible. Now, there
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: are other downsides to that. Obviously, you have to weigh
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: it out. Look at Israel.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Right now, Israel is.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: In chaos but again israel is a completely different uh
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: political machine as far as you know they have like
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: 87 parties or something and then they got to try
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: to build coalitions and all that sort of stuff we
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: seem to do that here uh inside the two parties
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: we have you know extreme right wing extreme left wing
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: centrists uh maybe what we would call rhinos or i
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: guess do they call them linos liberals name only i
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: don't know if they what their their beefs are over
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: there but You know, we try to build coalitions inside
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: the two parties. They they actually have different parties over there.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: But they you know, they made those people fly home.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: If you wanted to vote in the Israeli elections, you
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: couldn't do it anywhere other than Israel. You had to
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: go to your polling station. I like that because now
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: we know who's voting. It makes it better. But, you know, Christopher,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: it seems like we're we're just going to get into.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, why not make it a month of early
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: voting or just make it. Just vote whenever you'd like.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Or vote online. Vote online. Can I tweet it? Can
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I just put out a tweet and say, I like
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: this person? Kelly's vote counts. Yeah, exactly. Why are we
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: raising the burden on democracy?
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Shouldn't democracy be easy? No, it shouldn't be easy. It's
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: actually supposed to be hard. It was hard fought, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to be hard kept. And what we're doing,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: I think, is just introducing more problems. Do you have
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: any thoughts on early voting, Christopher?
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: I'm not, I've never done it. No, I take that back. I, Oh,
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: I did do it. I knew I was going to
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: be out of town.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: It was, it was when Trump ran in 2016 and
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: I knew I was going to be out of town. Uh,
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: and so I voted early, but that's it. But because
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: I'm a traditionalist, I like the idea of going to
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: the polls with everyone else on that Tuesday and Standing
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: in line.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: And then going over every name on the ballot. That's okay.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Making my individual choices.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: If I was behind Christopher Thompson in line, would you
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: mind if I just got in front of you?
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Because I know it's going to be a little while.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: It doesn't take me long because I've studied all the people.
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: I know exactly who I'm going to vote for when
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: I walk in.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, do you?
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right. So no poll decisions.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: There are never surprises for me when I get in there.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: I studied that sample ballot. I know exactly what I'm
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: going to do. But I do it individually.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I do not.
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: Just click vote straight Republican ticket.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Be interesting to see if anybody would admit to, I
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: made up my mind standing there.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Ooh, like I was just in there going eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: or how did you make that decision at the last second?
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: That's why these candidates have those people standing just outside.
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: I mean, they, they've got a distance. They have to
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: be away from the polling.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Place, like 500 yards or something.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: They are standing just outside, ready to give you one
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: last pitch before you walk in the door.
• 45:40
  Speaker 16: Hmm.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: And, um, yeah, yeah.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying last night was my wife's last night
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: on the Richland two school board.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: That's fantastic. I am so happy that it's over.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Um, but, uh, you know, I remember four years ago
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: when she was running, uh, that was, that was a thing.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: And there was one candidate who kept violating that rule.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: And we were like, well, are you going to do
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: anything about that? That guy's like literally like in the
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: booth with them. Like you got to get them out
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: of here. And, you know, I don't know ever.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: I think that candidate, by the way, I'm not going
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: to say their name, but I think that they're actually
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: in jail right now. Not for that, but for other things.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: So I'm glad they weren't elected to the school board.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: I've walked into my polling place and complained once.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Did you?
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: I said that's that that's too close, that they're not
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: supposed to be that close. Hmm.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I say that about the Girl Scout cookie sellers.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: It's not the same thing. They're a little too close
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: to me. Can I bob and weave? I mean, I've
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: gave at the office. What do you want from me? Anyway,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: how are you making your decisions? We'd love to hear
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: your thought processes on that. And coming up after 8 o'clock,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: we've got some new polling. And you know what?
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about the other polling, too, because we talked
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: about the one poll that Nick Reynolds was quoting in
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: the Post and Courier. But there's been like three or
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: four more new polls that have come out in the
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: last day and a half or so.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: And they're not aligning. We're now getting separation in the
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: polls as to some are going one way, some are
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: going another.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: We'll try to break all those down as well. This
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Good morning, guys.
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: It's Stephen Mount Pleasant. I am crusty and conservative and
• 47:20
  Speaker 13: set in my ways, but I don't like early voting either.
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: I believe in election day, not election season. And I've
• 47:29
  Speaker 13: read from people who really know their subject. We say
• 47:34
  Speaker 13: that the great opportunities for cheating are in paper ballots
• 47:39
  Speaker 13: and early voting.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: And I believe them.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: I believe them too. Thank you, Krusty Steve. Self-described Krusty man.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Appreciate that. Christopher, we had another talk back, I understand, regarding,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: what is this, about the Senate race?
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: Your conversation with Annie Andrews in the last hour.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Okay. Hey, Bob from Mount Pleasant.
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: I was listening to your clip with Annie Andrews, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: I got to tell you guys, it's hilarious. She talks
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: about being overspent by the Republicans. I'm not sure what
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: solar system this lady's living in, but I think the
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: Democrats have probably outspent Denise Graham three or four to one.
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: So she's incredibly, once again, she's incredibly naive.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Denise Graham. I don't know that she's naive.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I think Annie is intentionally misrepresenting the situation. Do you
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: think he's intentionally still calling her Denise Graham?
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: I think we heard from him a couple of weeks ago,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: and I remember you loved the fact that he keeps
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: calling her Denise.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: It's Darlene, for those of you who don't know. I
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: thought the argument was about her last name, not her
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: first name. Yeah, exactly.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: When people want to insult her, they go with Nordone.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: But yeah, no, Annie, you know what? We'll play more
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: of that Annie Andrews play. Now, I went about 18
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: minutes with Annie yesterday. If you haven't heard that, you
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: can get the entire 18 minutes on the iHeartRadio app.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: Look for the national, N-A-S-H-I-O-N-A-L, the national briefing, and you
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: can see it there.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Or you won't see it, you'll hear it. Again, if
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: you want to see things.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: We do a bunch of stuff on YouTube and X
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: and Facebook, include live streaming the show. You can see
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: that there right now. We'll take a break, be back
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: with more. Thanks for plugging in with South Carolina's Morning News.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys.
• 49:36
  Speaker 16: Dave from Somerton.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Listen, love the show.
• 49:40
  Speaker 16: You want to know how I make decisions? It's simple.
• 49:43
  Speaker 18: I pay attention. All politicians are scumbags. And I don't
• 49:47
  Speaker 18: understand why people think politicians... are their savior. I mean,
• 49:52
  Speaker 18: what is the incentive of a politician to fix.
• 49:54
  Speaker 16: Anything, really?
• 49:55
  Speaker 18: So really what I do is I choose the lesser
• 49:57
  Speaker 18: of two evils.
• 50:00
  Speaker 16: And anyway, great show. Keep up the good work, guys.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Dave's pretty cynical. Dave, they're all scumbags. Is
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: that what he said? Goodness gracious.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Brutal.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: He says he goes with the lesser of two evils.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: I thought he was going to go like, what was
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: that guy, Dwight Schrute on The Office? I asked myself,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: What would an idiot do? And then I do not
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: do that thing. Christopher, you had had a email you
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: wanted to get to.
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: Well, you gave a pitch, which you've given more than once,
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: talking about the fact that Republicans who might be against
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: Darlene Graham and wanting to teach the establishment a lesson
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: and vote for Annie Andrews is the wrong move. We
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: heard from loyal listener John, who said, I couldn't do it.
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: Kelly can spin it any way he wants. Darlene Graham
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: is incompetent, unqualified. She was put in there only because
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: of her brother. She may only have a snowball chance
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: of winning, but I voted for the libertarian Casey Whitener.
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: I'm not voting for a royal family appointee nor a
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: freaking socialist trying to kill this country.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: And who said that, John? That was loyal listener John.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Loyal listener John. Thank you, John.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Again, you and I are going to have a difference
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: of opinions there. But I appreciate the honesty. Again, America
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: is a two-party system, and I know a lot of
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: people hate that. Maybe you'd like to see— I was just— where
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: was that text I was just reading about? What the
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: heck's going on over there in Israel?
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: All right, so in Israel, you've got to get, what
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: is it, 61 of the— what is it called?
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: The Knesset or something like that?
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: And right now— and you're not voting for a candidate over there.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: There you've got to vote for the party.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: So the party that Netanyahu's in has got, what do
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: they say, 57. The other guy, Eisenkot's party's got 47.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: The Arab parties, who are they? They got 16.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: So now somebody's going to have to cut a deal
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: with somebody in order to get to 61.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a bit of a coalition.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: And that's what I was saying we do in America
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: inside the parties. So if you are someone who finds
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: yourself center right, you find yourself in the Republican Party
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: and you try to shift the party more in alignment
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: with wherever you are. Same as if you're on the left.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: The problem with the left as of... the last few, well,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I guess a decade or so now, is they have
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: been being pushed to the socialist left. And that should
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: scare the crap out of all Americans. If the right
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: was to go to what, you know, like a white
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: supremacy or what they accuse us of, they accuse us
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: of an authoritarian move, but it's actually the opposite.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Trump is, you know, we were talking earlier about how his,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: you know, his It's the socialist move of him investing
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: in other companies. Okay, if that's who Trump is, then
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: he's more of a leftist.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: He's a socialist. That would be the pitch. But you
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: keep pushing him as an authoritarian. The only thing authoritarian
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I see about Donald Trump is that he can carry
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: himself like Mussolini. He does have a Mussolini swagger about him.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: And that sends off authoritarian vibe, but his actual policies
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: are center. And some of them are actually leftist.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: And so... He will never be accused of being a conservative.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Not by conservatives.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: And he recognized that a long time ago and he
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: wanted to get into the Republican Party and push it center.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: He didn't like the old school Republicans that were more
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: fiscally conservative.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: He wanted to spend more. He thought we could help
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: the country by spending more. That is a leftist position,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: by the way. That is not a conservative position. But anyway,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: we will disagree on that one, John. But again, thank
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: you for the email. And coming back, some new polling.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to one of the pollsters about it next.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Your news, traffic, weather, and information stations. This is South
• 53:56
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• 54:06
  Speaker 3: All right, we're going to move our interview with the
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: pollster to 8.33.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Hopefully you can stand by for that. In the meantime,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: a little more of our interview with Annie Andrews. One
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: of the things that I had seen online about Dr.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Annie that a lot of conservatives wanted to clarify was
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: the fact that she did work. She earned a salary
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: working for a group from Michael Bloomberg. which is described as,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: by their assessment, they are all about gun safety.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: That's what they're for.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: People like with the NRA would say they're actually about
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: trying to scare people about guns.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Talk to us about your work with them.
• 54:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, first I'll say I support the Second Amendment,
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: any law abiding citizen's right to own firearms.
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: I grew up in a hunting family. My grandpa was
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: a big hunter.
• 54:51
  Speaker 11: I've said this a lot over the past week or
• 54:53
  Speaker 11: so because I'm getting asked this question a lot. I
• 54:55
  Speaker 11: still remember his big gun case. It was at the
• 54:57
  Speaker 11: bottom of the green carpeted stairs in his house. And
• 55:00
  Speaker 11: I don't have any interest in taking anyone's guns. But
• 55:03
  Speaker 11: as a pediatrician, I took care of children who had
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: been shot. And doing that a few times compelled me
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: to want to do something about this problem. Because I
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: think any child who is shot in South Carolina is
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: something that should compel us to want to find solutions
• 55:16
  Speaker 11: to avoid more children being shot. The majority of work
• 55:19
  Speaker 11: I did when I was working for that organization was
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: teaching medical students how to talk to parents about the
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: importance of secure firearm storage. Just like pediatricians talk to
• 55:29
  Speaker 11: parents about putting those little plastic things in our outlets
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: and locking up the kitchen cleaners underneath the kitchen sink.
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: What wasn't happening is medical students weren't learning how to
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: have conversations with gun-owning parents about the importance of secure
• 55:41
  Speaker 11: firearm storage. And, you know, responsible gun owners, of course,
• 55:44
  Speaker 11: believe in secure firearm storage. And so we just wanted
• 55:47
  Speaker 11: to make that sort of widespread across medical education so
• 55:50
  Speaker 11: that we would have fewer unintentional shootings amongst young kids,
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: fewer youth suicides, and fewer guns showing up on school grounds.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: I'm confused by the answer.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Responsible gun owners do keep their guns secure, according to Dr. Andrews,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: but it's upon the medical students to tell, I guess,
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: irresponsible gun owners how to secure their firearms. I remember
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: when I got my concealed weapons permit years ago, they
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: talked about how to keep it secure and Leon Lott,
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: who is the Richmond County Sheriff, for those of you
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: who live in the low country might not be familiar
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: with him, although he is kind of famous thanks to,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: what is it, On Patrol, the TV show, Christopher?
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Leon always uses the phrase whenever he visits my other
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: morning show that I do.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm on two morning shows at the same time.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: When he's on that other morning show, what he always
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: says is your vehicle is not a holster.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Don't leave it there. And that's usually where the guns
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: end up getting stolen. Although we do hear from time
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: to time tragedies where we run a PSA here where
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: some lady is saying, my husband had a gun. And
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: just the way she says it, you already know where
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: that story is going. And but I don't understand the
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: thought that why would the medical student or a medical
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: professional be talking to someone about gun storages? It's either
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: already happened and we've missed it, and that's why I'm
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: talking to you because your child is here in the
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: emergency room, or you're just bringing it up out of
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: left field, which seems very inappropriate. Well, we're going to
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: treat the sprained ankle. But by the way, do you
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: own a weapon? Is there a weapon in your home?
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I notice you have a child. How are you storing
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: that weapon? Get out of my business, bro.
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't even feel comfortable with that conversation, nor
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: would I expect it if I was taking my child
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: to a well-care visit.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: And I.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: And on a bigger overarching theme, what I would say
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: about liberals as opposed to conservatives in general is that
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: liberals expect or I don't know if they expect it.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: They their desire would be trying to make this as
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: as friendly as possible. The desire of a liberal would
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: be for government to alleviate all problems. And there are
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: problems there. that are not going to be alleviated. Like when,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: whenever somebody says we want to make sure that this
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: can never happen again, insert, whatever it is, the pandemic,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: it can never happen again. That somebody, you know, a
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Ponzi scheme wipes out an entire retirement fund for a
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: whole union or whatever that can never happen again. It's yes,
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: it will happen again. There's bad things will always happen.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: For all of history, they always have and they always
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: will because there's human beings who are very sinful by nature.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: We're born, if you believe in the Bible, maybe you
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: don't believe in the Bible, but if you believe the Bible,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: you were born a sinner and actually are described as
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: an enemy of the Lord until your conversion. So he
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: has patience. He's long-suffering. He loves you despite that. All
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: those things are true. But for the people who were
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: not converted, they are going to be dealing with a
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: sin nature at a level that— maybe some of you
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: who were born again can't even comprehend anymore because they
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: kept walking down a path and they have like, what's
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: his name?
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Who is the guy who had the big Ponzi scheme?
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: out of New York. Bernie Madoff? Bernie Madoff.
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: Bernie Madoff didn't look like he gave two craps that
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: he wiped out and they would present these people at
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: the trial. I remember that one lady who was like
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: a school teacher in Florida and her son had gotten
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: a job working for Bernie Madoff and thought it was
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: all on the up and up and convinced his mother
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: to take like the $ 90, 000 or whatever it was that
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: she had saved over her life and put it in
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Bernie Madoff's fund. And Bernie Madoff basically blew through that
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: over lunch.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: And then this lady loses her home. She's financially destitute.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Of course, her son, he doesn't go to jail, but
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: he loses his job because.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Bernie Madoff's going to prison. And, you know, they're presenting
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: him with her, and he's just sitting there very non,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: you know, what do you want from me? Yeah, I
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: did what I did. Okay. And that was it. They
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: don't have no remorse.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: So as long as there's people like that on earth
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: and they'll always be here, government can't stop it. Now,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that we shouldn't have certain rules and regulations.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Of course we shouldn't try to put up some safety guards.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: But when you start overreaching in an attempt to say
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: this can never happen again, like a school shooting, the best.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Defense on that is what I think we're doing here
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: in South Carolina, which is pretty much having resource officers
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: at every school. We have metal detectors in some areas
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: as well. We're trying to set up a further perimeter
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: around a lot of these schools to make sure that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: somebody just can't start popping off for, you know, 10
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: yards outside the building or whatever. They are taking measures,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: but if you go too far... Then it becomes a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: huge burden on people to just get into the building
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: to get to their kids and or even for the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: kids to enter the building themselves. There's always got to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: be a fine line. Liberals tend to side on overregulation.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe you can say that the conservatives side on if
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: there's a fault on deregulation and there's too much deregulation.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: And that's a great argument to have.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: But when Annie Andrews is talking about having medical students
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: talk to gun owners about gun safety, to me, that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: seems ridiculous.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Ridiculous.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: And Michael Bloomberg has spent hundreds of millions of dollars
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: on that PAC. And I would say that that is, yes,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: that is certainly, he is a challenge to the Second Amendment.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: If Michael Bloomberg was to get his way, none of
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: us would ever have a gun again. That would be
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: his answer to this problem. And there's no way you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: can say that that's not the answer if you're defending Bloomberg.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: Bloomberg would say, wipe out all guns, probably even get
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: rid of them from the cops. Make it go England,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: where you got to chase them down with a billy club.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Goodness gracious.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: So there's that and responses to that coming up and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: other things. And like I said, we're going to have
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: some new fresh new polling data coming up for you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: about 830. Thanks for starting your day with South Carolina's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: morning news.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the low country. This is South
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Carolina's morning news.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Good morning, gentlemen. This is Chris from Lexington.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: And speaking on the Dr.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: Annie Andrews situation about medical students speaking to gun owners,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: I think it's definitely appropriate, me being prior medical field myself,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: if you bring your child into the ER and they
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: have been wounded or shot by your weapon, then obviously
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: someone needs to speak to you about gun safety. It's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: no different than you bringing your child into the ER sick.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Cut off.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: We lost him there at the end. Well, I would,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: it was his name, Chris.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Chris from Lexington. Thank you for using the talkback feature.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: I would point out that if you have shot your child, uh,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: I think that the person who should be talking to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: you as a law enforcement official at that point, um, that,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: that is a reason for police to be called.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: If, if you, if you have a bullet wound, they
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: should be calling the police.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Um, and the police officer should be Maybe examining you
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: for a possible criminal prosecution at that point if your
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: child has either shot themselves or you have shot them.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Once a child's been shot, cops need to be called.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, your point was these preemptive talks, not talks in
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: the ER, talks in the examination room when you're bringing
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: your child in for a simple evaluation and a wellness visit.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if we're talking to you about proper gun safety
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: after the kid has shot themselves, we're too late to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: That was the point.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: But again, thank you for plugging in with South Carolina's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Morning Show and giving us your feedback.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: I will tell you, I was a little surprised here
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: by Dr.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: Andrews' answer to this question. I brought up the fact
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: that she came out with an ad. where she looked
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: at the camera and said, I want you to hear
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: me loud and clear. I don't support biological men playing
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: women's sports and I don't support and have never performed
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: gender surgery for minors. And that, you know, got a
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: lot of people's attention, including a bunch of LGBTQ people who, um,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: there was like 20, 20 groups wrote a letter complaining
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: about that ad. A lot of people were just, uh,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: putting op-ed pieces out, saying that that's very hurtful rhetoric.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: That she was using.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: When I asked her, what would your response be to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: the people who say that their feelings were hurt by
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: that ad?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 11: My job right now is to do everything I can
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 11: to win this race so that I can represent the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 11: people of South Carolina.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: I believe by me defeating Darlene Graham, we.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: Will have successfully returned the Senate seat to the people
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 11: of South Carolina. of South Carolina, taking it away from
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 11: someone who's going to be bought and sold by Washington insiders,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 11: special interest groups, and billionaire donors. I'm laser focused on
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: the issues that I'm hearing about from the people all
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: across South Carolina. I've been on the campaign trail for
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 11: 18 months. I've been in all 46 counties, and I'm
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: not hearing about these issues that you're asking me about.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 11: I'm hearing about the cost of gas and groceries. I'm
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: hearing about Healthcare insurance premiums that are going up. I'm
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 11: hearing about closing rural hospitals. That's what I'm staying focused on.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: The job of a U.S. senator or a candidate for
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 11: the U.S. Senate is not to make everyone happy. It's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: to do the job of campaigning to win the seat
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 11: to deliver results for the people of South Carolina.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Okay. So she's not hearing about the trans issue.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: She was apparently hearing about it, Christopher, because she did
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: an ad on it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah. She knew she was about to be attacked on it.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: So that was a preemptive strike on her part.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: And then the response was 20 organizations wrote an open
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: letter condemning that.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: And she said, I'm not hearing about that issue anymore.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: She's following the Democrat playbook.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, all over America right now, they are licking
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: their wounds over what happened in 2024 and realizing it's
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: They can't take the Kamala Harris approach of being, you know,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: completely out of touch with Americans. So they just don't
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: want to talk about it right now. Ask me again
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 7: after the election.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Get back at me. I'll give you my real answer
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: coming up in about 90 days. Yeah.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: But what I basically heard her say is my job
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: is to win the seat and say what I have
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: to say. I'm saying what I have to say in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: order to win the seat.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: I'm saying what I think South Carolinians want to hear.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not in for the trans. I'm not down with
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: the trans community. That's me. I'm a conservative.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just like you. I'm not crazy. I'm a pediatrician.
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  Speaker 4: I am as centrist as you are centrist. So please,
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  Speaker 4: let's restore common sense to politics and vote for me.
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  Speaker 3: Wink, wink. Uh, that's what I'm hearing. What are you hearing?
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  Speaker 3: You can use the talk back feature. We'll take a
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  Speaker 3: break and be back in a moment.
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  Speaker 8: Brian from Sumter here. Unfortunately in this election of vote
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  Speaker 8: for anyone, but Darlene Graham is a vote for Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 8: I don't care what you think. If you think it's
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  Speaker 8: some type of, uh, dynastic family or royal family, any
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  Speaker 8: vote against her is a vote for Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian and Sumter.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of people plugging in this morning with
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: the talkback feature, and we certainly appreciate it, Christopher. I
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  Speaker 4: think you and I have both kind of been making
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  Speaker 4: that same point as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 7: And I, you know, I don't know that it's the
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  Speaker 7: dynastic issue as much as it is just the fact
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  Speaker 7: that they feel like because she was appointed to and
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  Speaker 7: not elected originally that they feel like she doesn't belong.
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  Speaker 7: The right in Ralph campaign is a different animal. There
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  Speaker 7: are some people who are just uncomfortable with the fact
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  Speaker 7: that she got to where she did and was elevated
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  Speaker 7: by first McMaster and then by Trump.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like, you know, you being a big
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  Speaker 4: college football guy, you can only win the games that
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  Speaker 4: you're playing. So if you happen to be beating UMass
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  Speaker 4: and Akron and, you know, don't blame me.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And so all she has done in the schedule.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She was appointed. Somebody had to get that appointment.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: She got it. Then Trump said, you should run.
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  Speaker 4: And she listened and she ran and she beat a
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  Speaker 4: field of professional athletes. these are all professionals for the
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  Speaker 4: most part. Mark Lynch was not, but you know, for
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  Speaker 4: the most part, whether you're talking about Sanford Fry, Ralph Norman,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't, not lifelong politician, but someone who's
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  Speaker 4: been a professional politician for more than a decade. So
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  Speaker 4: she beat the professionals at their game. And you might
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  Speaker 4: not like the fact that she had the best team
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  Speaker 4: in the business. The, the, the, the Lindsey Graham team
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  Speaker 4: is the best in the business, at least in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: She had that advantage.
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  Speaker 4: She has demonstrated, as we mentioned earlier, she is not
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  Speaker 4: a professional campaigner. She's not good at it. She's not
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  Speaker 4: good at debating. She's not good at any of those things.
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  Speaker 4: But the question is, will she vote the way you
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  Speaker 4: want her to vote if you are a conservative?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, she might go along more with Trump than
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  Speaker 4: I would like her to, you know, and that's what
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  Speaker 4: I think what the Ralph Norman people are saying.
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  Speaker 3: But then you have to weigh yourself and say, well,
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  Speaker 3: what would Annie Andrews do. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And if I'm not helping Darlene, then I'm helping Annie.
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  Speaker 4: And I know Casey Whitener might be listening right now going,
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  Speaker 4: what about me? Well, what about you? You're polling at 3%.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the way it should be for a libertarian.
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  Speaker 3: You should not.
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  Speaker 4: You have to get into the party and then move
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  Speaker 4: the party in the direction that you want to do.
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  Speaker 4: I've talked about Donald Trump moving the Republican Party the
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  Speaker 4: way he wanted to see it.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody else needs to get in. Maybe you will see
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  Speaker 3: a Ted Cruz or Iran DeSantis or somebody push it
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  Speaker 3: back more towards conservative values. We'll we'll figure that out
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  Speaker 3: here in the next couple of years. But right now
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  Speaker 3: it's the two party system. And right now the Republicans
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  Speaker 3: are very much in the center. And it's the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: are way off to the left. And those are your
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  Speaker 3: two choices the way I see it. We'll take a
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  Speaker 3: break for the morning news. Be back with our pollster next.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's morning news.
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  Speaker 4: And we are back with Sam Aaron, who is from
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  Speaker 4: the South Carolina Policy Council. If you go to scpolicycouncil.org,
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  Speaker 4: you can see their brand new policy. poll that I
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  Speaker 4: was waiting all morning, it felt like, yesterday. Sam, welcome,
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  Speaker 4: and how are you today?
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  Speaker 16: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, Kelly.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited to see your polling. Some interesting things in there,
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  Speaker 3: including 2% of Democrats in the poll said that they
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  Speaker 3: are going to be voting for Darlene Graham. It's very
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  Speaker 3: interesting when you kind of get into the weeds of
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  Speaker 3: what these polls tell us. I think it was 7%
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  Speaker 3: of Republicans said that they would be voting for Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 3: Was there anything in this poll that really surprised you, Sam?
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  Speaker 14: As far as the candidates go, that was pretty much
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  Speaker 14: about where we thought we would land. You know, there's
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  Speaker 14: a 1% margin between Senator Darlene Graham and Annie Andrews
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  Speaker 14: and that 10% margin between Alan Wilson and Jermaine Johnson.
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  Speaker 14: I think it'll be interesting, you know, once we actually
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  Speaker 14: see the election fully play out, to see how many
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  Speaker 14: Republicans in the state are voting just straight Republican ticket
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  Speaker 14: versus how many are actually, you know, voting for an
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  Speaker 14: Alan Wilson and an Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 16: I found that to be a little bit interesting.
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  Speaker 14: Our tax reform, you know, almost two-thirds of South Carolinians
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  Speaker 14: support eliminating the income tax, while just 20% oppose the
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  Speaker 14: elimination of the income tax. So, this is a very
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  Speaker 14: popular policy. You know, we've seen both gubernatorial candidates start.
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  Speaker 16: To kind of talk about that more.
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  Speaker 14: Alan Wilson's been kind of banging that drum for some time,
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  Speaker 14: and I've noticed in a couple of Jermaine Johnson ads
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  Speaker 14: that I've seen now, now he's on that same wavelength.
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  Speaker 14: You know, this legislative session, we had a big kind
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  Speaker 14: of fallout about the earmarks. 78% of South Carolinians said
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  Speaker 14: that Earmarks need to be publicly disclosed and need more
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  Speaker 14: descriptive information alongside of it. So most of these fell
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  Speaker 14: about where we thought.
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  Speaker 16: Now, I was surprised. We pulled the.
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  Speaker 14: South Carolina Education Scholarship Trust Fund, our ESA program, and
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  Speaker 14: we asked just to see how many people would be
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  Speaker 14: in favor of expanding the program. What was surprising is
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  Speaker 14: that more Democrats were in favor than Republicans.
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  Speaker 16: Of expanding the program.
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  Speaker 14: Eighty-four percent of Democrats supported expanding the program, while just
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  Speaker 14: 72 percent of Republicans. So, you know, that's a little
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  Speaker 14: bit interesting there, a little bit of a puzzling one. But,
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  Speaker 14: you know, maybe this would pave the way for some
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  Speaker 14: bipartisanship next session.
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  Speaker 4: Talking with Sam Aaron from the South Carolina Policy Council.
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  Speaker 4: And again, if you go to scpolicycouncil.org, you can see
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  Speaker 4: their latest poll. This was done the 16th of October
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  Speaker 4: through the 25th. So, I mean, it was literally just completed, 1,200
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  Speaker 4: registered South Carolina voters. You've got a plus minus error
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  Speaker 4: margin here of 2.7 percent or 2.77 if we're being very.
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  Speaker 3: Precise.
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  Speaker 4: That's a pretty accurate poll then by your estimation. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm wondering, can you tell inside the numbers? Because one
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  Speaker 4: of the things you were just talking about, Sam, was
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  Speaker 4: the fact that there's a 10% gap for Alan Wilson
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  Speaker 4: in the race, but there's a 1%. Is it that
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  Speaker 4: people are going to actively vote for Alan Wilson for
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  Speaker 4: governor and then actively vote for Annie Andrews, Or are
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  Speaker 4: they going to go third party candidate, maybe right in
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  Speaker 4: Ralph or just sit that race out?
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  Speaker 14: Well, I think that, uh, you know, you saw 7%
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  Speaker 14: of Republicans go over and say that they would vote
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  Speaker 14: for Annie Andrews. Uh, and then when you look at
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  Speaker 14: the party identification, uh, 53% of independents are saying that
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  Speaker 14: they're going to vote for Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 16: Um, There's not really a whole lot of undecided. I
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  Speaker 16: think the majority of people have made up their mind. Uh,
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  Speaker 16: when we look at the, you.
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  Speaker 14: Know, kind of party breakdown independence, you know, 9% of
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  Speaker 14: independence are still technically undecided. So, you know, we'll kind
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  Speaker 14: of see where that, uh, pans out. But the, the,
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  Speaker 14: For the most part, I think I would honestly be
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  Speaker 14: surprised if if a large percentage of Republicans kind of
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  Speaker 14: went over any Andrews. But we're also not really seeing
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  Speaker 14: a whole lot of third party identification. So it seems
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  Speaker 14: to me that, you know, the Republicans who are dissuaded
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  Speaker 14: might just be stay at home.
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  Speaker 16: Now, that's not really accounted.
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  Speaker 14: For in our poll, but it seems that, you know,
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  Speaker 14: they look kind of across the board and are just
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  Speaker 14: overall unenthused. That would be kind of the natural response
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  Speaker 14: that we at least in my logic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking with Sam Aaron from the South Carolina
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  Speaker 4: Policy Council. One of the other things that you guys
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  Speaker 4: were polling on was the data centers. And I'm wondering
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  Speaker 4: if these 7% of Republicans who are saying that they're
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: going to vote for Annie Andrews are the same 7%
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  Speaker 4: that said that the costs should be passed on to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: the utility customers through their rate increases. 64% said that
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  Speaker 4: the large customers who are creating the additional demand should
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: bear the costs.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand why that's not the answer for everybody.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, it's pretty shocking. Now, you do have to question.
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  Speaker 14: I mean, you know, we've got a lot going on here.
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  Speaker 14: We're talking about data centers and power plants.
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  Speaker 16: Transmission lines. So you would like to think that maybe they.
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  Speaker 14: Just weren't quite following and didn't quite get what the
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  Speaker 14: question was asking.
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  Speaker 16: But, you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 14: I don't understand why they would want to pay for
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  Speaker 14: energy that they're not using. That doesn't really make a
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  Speaker 14: whole lot of sense to me either.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of those things where you might look
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: at some voting and go, that doesn't make sense. This
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: is why, because people don't know what they're even thinking.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy, but I'm glad that you're delving
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: into it and kind of revealing some of those things. Again,
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  Speaker 4: this new poll, all of it is up on your website,
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  Speaker 4: and people can dig even deeper into it and get
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: into the crosstabs and all that stuff. That's where I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: was kind of finding some of that information out, again,
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  Speaker 4: at scpolicycouncil.org. Sam Aaron, thank you for being a part
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  Speaker 4: of South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 6: Of course.
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  Speaker 16: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: And we will take a break and be back with
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  Speaker 4: maybe some more responses, maybe your talkbacks, if you have
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: thoughts on this or anything else as well.
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  Speaker 3: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 6: Love your show, guys.
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  Speaker 19: I think with the way things are going in the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 19: Democrat Party, it's more, when you vote, it's more of a,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 19: what type of government do you want? Do you want
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 19: this government to go towards socialism? Or do you want
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 19: it to go, to remain as a Democratic Republic? So
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 19: this should be taken into account with who you vote for.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, guys.
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  Speaker 20: So yesterday, my wife and I were surprised at the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 20: doorbell ringing It was about 11 a.m. We weren't expecting anybody.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 20: It was a woman giving me a pamphlet for Nancy
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 20: LaCour telling me all about how Nancy LaCour is and
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 20: telling me I should vote for her, giving me all
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 20: kinds of information on how to get to vote and
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 20: all that. I kept the pamphlet and I hung it up.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 20: Not because I have any intention on voting for LaCour,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 20: but I want to thank the woman for giving me
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 20: advice on how to beat the traffic.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Nancy LaCour supporters, for helping our voters
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: get to the polls and I guess that's a Miss
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: Honeycutt supporter we just heard from in the Lowcountry. Thank
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: you guys for using the Talkback features to engage with
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: the show. We love having you on the air. We
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: really do. All right, I'm going to take a quick break,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: and when I come back, I think I'm going to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: have time for a final segment with the Annie Andrews
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: interview from yesterday. The question she says she's never been
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: asked next.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 4: With Christopher Thompson, I am Kelly Nash, yesterday joined in
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  Speaker 4: the studio by Annie Andrews, and the one question she
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: says she's not gotten on this campaign ever before. What
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  Speaker 4: is it about the Republican Party that makes you not
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: want to be a Republican?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Dad.
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  Speaker 10: Well, that's a great question, a question I haven't been
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: asked yet.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I finally got one.
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  Speaker 16: You did.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You did.
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  Speaker 10: Clap for Kelly.
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  Speaker 11: You know, I really think it's my experience working in
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 11: the Children's Hospital and understanding, you know, the families who
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 11: really depend on the social safety net, the Medicaid program,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 11: SNAP benefits, and understanding that, you know, I want to
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 11: be a part of a party who believes we need
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 11: a robust social safety net in addition to those centrist
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 11: views of being fiscally conservative. of bipartisanship and compromise. And so,
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  Speaker 11: you know, I think, yes, I'm running as a Democrat.
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  Speaker 11: because I believe in those things, but I'm planning to
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  Speaker 11: govern from the center. South Carolina is a very centrist state.
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  Speaker 10: That has been my experience on the campaign trail.
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  Speaker 11: And I also believe with every part of my body
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  Speaker 11: that the effect of governing happens from the center.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Do you believe that, Christopher, that she will
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: override her own instincts and for more government and more
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: be just do what most South Carolinians want.
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  Speaker 7: Even if she wanted to, Kelly, we've talked before about the,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: the power imbalance in Washington. Once you get to DC,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 7: you're sitting on the back bench for a while and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 7: being told what to do. You're not really in control.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: And even if she wanted to be that centrist, that
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 7: moderate voice, once she got up to The halls of
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: the Capitol, she probably wouldn't have much of a choice.
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  Speaker 4: And remind me again, Rick Quinn, who broke down the spending,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: who's the number one contributor right now to the Andrews campaign?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: That would be the Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer. He used
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: to be a centrist. There was a time. Now, what
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: happened to Chuck? Even Chuck Schumer, who's been in D.C. forever.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's been in D.C. since the last century.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: He's been serving up there. Even he couldn't resist. The
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: socialist push. Do we think Annie will? Do you think
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: that that Dr. Andrews would be able to just say, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: We're taking it back to the center.
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  Speaker 3: I'm fighting for all South Carolinians, even those that I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: don't agree with and how they don't want to have
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: a bigger safety net.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: She wants the bigger safety net, but she won't vote
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: for it. If you believe that, I guess that's that's
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  Speaker 4: who you're going.
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  Speaker 3: To vote for.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, even if she had the best of intentions,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: she would still be a lone voice in the Democrat
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 7: Party and unable to get anything done.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: That's part of the points that we've been trying to make.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: If you want to hear the entire 18-minute interview with Dr. Andrews,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: I'd encourage you to check it out on the National
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: Briefing podcast. That is on the totally free iHeartRadio app,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: and I believe that's the only place you can find it,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: is on the iHeartRadio app, the National Briefing, spelt like
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: my name, N-A-S-H-I-O-N-A-L. Coming up, another podcast. Christopher Thompson will
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: have the South Carolina Morning News podcast posted in.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Just a little bit, correct? Absolutely. All right. Already got
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: the first two hours edited.
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  Speaker 16: Oh, wow.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: He's ahead of the curve.
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  Speaker 2: All right, guys.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow morning after 6. Have a great day.