Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / NT Senator Jacinta Price says she voted in support of the Territory Rights bill but has little faith in the current NT Government when it comes to legislating on euthanasia
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well as we know, laws restricting the Act and the
- 0:02Speaker 1: Northern Territory from legislating on voluntary euthanasia have indeed been repealed.
- 0:07Speaker 1: After more than two decades of being in place. The
- 0:10Speaker 1: Restoring the Territory Rights Bill pass Parliament on Thursday night
- 0:14Speaker 1: last night, overturning legislation put forward by Liberal MP Kevin
- 0:18Speaker 1: Andrews all the way back in nineteen ninety seven that
- 0:22Speaker 1: precluded the territories from being able to debate and pass
- 0:25Speaker 1: voluntary assisted dying laws. Now joining me on the line
- 0:29Speaker 1: is the COLP Senator for the Northern Territory, justa Enter Price.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Good morning to you.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie Jacent.
- 0:37Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the passing of the bill.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Oh, look, I'm happy for Territorians that the bill has
- 0:44Speaker 2: been passed now. I voted in support of it. It's
- 0:49Speaker 2: been a whole huge learning experience for me, and you know,
- 0:52Speaker 2: understanding my position as a senator in the House of
- 0:55Speaker 2: Review and considering everything that comes before me, you know,
- 1:01Speaker 2: across all arguments and all positions, and you know, my amendments,
- 1:07Speaker 2: my amendments that I put up prior to the final
- 1:11Speaker 2: vote of the bill didn't get up. But you know,
- 1:14Speaker 2: I thought hard, and it was for me, it was
- 1:16Speaker 2: about it was certainly not about taking away the rights
- 1:19Speaker 2: of Territori and to legislate. It was just about elevating
- 1:23Speaker 2: the rights, the human rights of our vulnerable, our children.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Those are the disability and those are the mental impairment.
- 1:29Speaker 2: So look, I'm happy that it's passed. I will be
- 1:32Speaker 2: calling on the territory government should at any stage, whoever
- 1:36Speaker 2: that government might be, whether it's the Labor government or
- 1:38Speaker 2: a Theopic government, to make sure that those provisions are
- 1:43Speaker 2: put in place to safeguard those vulnerable within our community
- 1:47Speaker 2: when they consider legislation for voluntary assisted dying. So I'll
- 1:51Speaker 2: get to.
- 1:52Speaker 1: That, Nisique, But I know that I've had a few
- 1:53Speaker 1: people messaging this morning asking did you support it in
- 1:57Speaker 1: the end, because my understanding is that there was obviously
- 2:00Speaker 1: the vote last week, that preliminary vote which you and
- 2:02Speaker 1: I spoke about last week, and then there were the
- 2:06Speaker 1: you know, the opportunity for those amendments to be put
- 2:09Speaker 1: forward last night. But was there another vote and did
- 2:13Speaker 1: you vote?
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, yes, there was another vote. I voted in
- 2:18Speaker 2: favor with Iron and that's what went through last night.
- 2:23Speaker 2: I guess last night there wasn't a call for a
- 2:27Speaker 2: division to count votes. So but yes, I was in favor.
- 2:31Speaker 2: I stated even prior to my amendment going to the
- 2:35Speaker 2: vote that I would be supporting the bill. So that's
- 2:37Speaker 2: that's how I voted.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Some people, you know, were really upsets with your stants
- 2:41Speaker 1: last week when we spoke to you about this. What
- 2:44Speaker 1: do you say to those people who felt as though
- 2:46Speaker 1: you'd made the wrong move after we spoke to you
- 2:49Speaker 1: last week.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Well, looks as as my colleagues in the Senate acknowledge,
- 2:56Speaker 2: my position was to came from a good place in
- 3:00Speaker 2: terms of attempting to put forward those amendments. That's all
- 3:04Speaker 2: my aim was. That's all I wanted to be able
- 3:06Speaker 2: to do last week. It wasn't it wasn't actually part
- 3:11Speaker 2: of the agenda to bring it to the final vote.
- 3:13Speaker 2: It was always going to be last night on Thursday night,
- 3:17Speaker 2: And my position was that my amendments had not been finalized,
- 3:21Speaker 2: and I wanted to be able to provide those amendments
- 3:25Speaker 2: for debate on the floor should the opportunity come up
- 3:28Speaker 2: that they be supported. And obviously they didn't. And this
- 3:31Speaker 2: is democracy at work, and you know, I'm perfectly okay
- 3:35Speaker 2: with that, I will be obviously keeping an eye on
- 3:39Speaker 2: things going forward, and you know, and being very vocal
- 3:43Speaker 2: about my concerns around vulnerable people, because with everything that
- 3:46Speaker 2: I do, they take priority, you know, with the decisions
- 3:50Speaker 2: that I make in Federal Parliament, it's the vulnerable people
- 3:53Speaker 2: of the Northern Territory that certainly take priority to me.
- 3:56Speaker 1: But for the record, Senator, for those out there listening,
- 3:59Speaker 1: who who were concerned or who are saying that you
- 4:02Speaker 1: voted against the bill, you voted yes with the bill
- 4:07Speaker 1: that you did want territory rights to, you know, for
- 4:11Speaker 1: us to be able to make our own decisions here
- 4:13Speaker 1: in the territory when it comes to voluntary assisted dying.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Correct, that's right. I voted for it last night and
- 4:22Speaker 2: I state that quite clearly as well when delivering my speech.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Now, Senator, as you said, you did put forward those
- 4:27Speaker 1: amendments to impose, you know, some of those different caveates
- 4:31Speaker 1: on territories that would not allow those under the age
- 4:34Speaker 1: of eighteen. I believe you'd told us last week you
- 4:36Speaker 1: were concerned with but also like you've just touched on
- 4:39Speaker 1: people with disabilities and mental illness. Are you are you
- 4:43Speaker 1: satisfied that that young people and indeed those with disabilities
- 4:49Speaker 1: are going to be protected.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Well, I'll see that when the you know, legislation is
- 4:57Speaker 2: drafted in the Territory parliament. Wh you know, those safeguards
- 5:01Speaker 2: will be there other states and the provisions that I
- 5:05Speaker 2: put up have been passed by other states that have
- 5:08Speaker 2: voluntary assisted dying. So I would hope that, you know,
- 5:11Speaker 2: that would provide for a template for the Territory to
- 5:15Speaker 2: follow in ensuring those safeguards exist. So I guess it
- 5:20Speaker 2: would be unusual if the Territory didn't provide those safeguards
- 5:24Speaker 2: going forward. And I'm sure, you know, if whatever government
- 5:28Speaker 2: is in place has the interests of Territorians at heart,
- 5:32Speaker 2: and they all ensure that those safeguards are there.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Now I know the Act Chief Minister Andrew Barr revealed
- 5:38Speaker 1: last night or yesterday that the Act is going to
- 5:40Speaker 1: look to legislate voluntary assisted dying within as soon as
- 5:44Speaker 1: twelve months. He said, we will have a thorough and
- 5:47Speaker 1: engaged process and it will be a conscience vote. I
- 5:51Speaker 1: think it will bring out the best in the Act Parliament,
- 5:54Speaker 1: is what he'd said publicly yesterday. We had the Attorney
- 5:57Speaker 1: General Chancey Paig on the week that was the small
- 6:01Speaker 1: and the Northern Territory government have got no plans to
- 6:03Speaker 1: push this through before the next Northern Territory election in
- 6:08Speaker 1: August twenty twenty four. He says that they want to
- 6:12Speaker 1: get through extensive consultation right around the territory. Do you
- 6:16Speaker 1: think that's the right move?
- 6:19Speaker 2: Extensive consultation is the right move, And hopefully they've learned
- 6:23Speaker 2: from the fact that there's been very little consultation with
- 6:26Speaker 2: the lifting of the alcohol bands in communities, and I
- 6:30Speaker 2: know that I don't know, well, I don't know if
- 6:32Speaker 2: they're actually playing catch up with that, but I'm certainly
- 6:35Speaker 2: doing what I can from my position to in terms
- 6:39Speaker 2: of drafting my bill on the back of the fact
- 6:42Speaker 2: that I have had many many concerned community members bringing
- 6:46Speaker 2: me about the alcohol feel violence back out in their
- 6:48Speaker 2: communities again. So in the new year, I'll bring that
- 6:52Speaker 2: motion forward to present that private Senator's bill in the
- 6:57Speaker 2: hope that really can establish some alcohol management plan and
- 7:04Speaker 2: until such time as that takes place, then the bands,
- 7:08Speaker 2: you know, I'm seeking for those bands to be maintain,
- 7:11Speaker 2: what to be booked back in place and maintained until
- 7:13Speaker 2: such time as some serious alcohol management planning has has
- 7:18Speaker 2: taken place, So yeah, I mean, you know, you can
- 7:22Speaker 2: say you're going to do something, but I guess the
- 7:24Speaker 2: proofs in the pudding. So it'll be interesting to see
- 7:25Speaker 2: what happens going forward and what happens at the next
- 7:28Speaker 2: territory election as well.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Yeah, it will. It'll be interesting to see exactly, you know,
- 7:32Speaker 1: what consultation does take place with this, with the voluntary
- 7:36Speaker 1: assisted dying. There is a question, let's come through from
- 7:39Speaker 1: a listener, do you not trust the Northern Territory to
- 7:42Speaker 1: make those decisions to protect the vulnerable. This is in
- 7:45Speaker 1: relation to the voluntary assisted dying.
- 7:50Speaker 2: I have very little trust for the current files labor government.
- 7:53Speaker 2: I would have a lot of trust in earlier Finocchiaro
- 7:57Speaker 2: led DLP territory government, absolute trust in them, but right
- 8:03Speaker 2: now I don't have much trust in this Labor file government.
- 8:07Speaker 2: And considering that there have been members of the Labor
- 8:12Speaker 2: Party who have supported an individual within their ranks who's
- 8:17Speaker 2: been sentenced after child rape, well then that's another reason
- 8:23Speaker 2: for me to have very little trust. So I guess
- 8:25Speaker 2: that answers the question for that one.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Well, Senator, it's been a busy week, I'm sure, are
- 8:30Speaker 1: you guys done now for the year or have you
- 8:32Speaker 1: still got Are there still sitting days now in Canberra?
- 8:36Speaker 1: Are you all finished?
- 8:37Speaker 2: So sitting days are over, but we still have some
- 8:40Speaker 2: committee work to finalize for the end of the year,
- 8:43Speaker 2: so that work's got to be done worked, not over
- 8:47Speaker 2: just yet. I'm looking forward to it though.
- 8:49Speaker 1: It's been a busy one, no doubt about it. Well,
- 8:51Speaker 1: we'll probably catch up with you before the year's end anyway,
- 8:54Speaker 1: appreciate your time this morning, Thanks for.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Coming on, no worries, Thank you very much.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Thank you.