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Gordie Chiesa Hour on Jaren Jackson Jr's season ending surgery, Discourse around Jazz's tank, All Star weekend + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 2: Here's oh C with basketball Sabban Gordy Chiasa on the
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  Speaker 1: Gordy chias A, resident NBA guru is here talking all
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  Speaker 1: things NBA and all things basketball in general.
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  Speaker 4: GORDI welcome.
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  Speaker 3: How are you, Joan. I'm doing well, Thank you, Gordy.
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  Speaker 1: The U the Utah Jazz are going to be without
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  Speaker 1: Jaron Jackson Junior for the remainder of the season. He
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  Speaker 1: has a knee syndrome that I was not aware of
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  Speaker 1: until I read this story. PVNS, a benign tumor that
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  Speaker 1: grows in the joint, thickens the lining of your knees,
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  Speaker 1: and you gotta go in and you gotta snip it out.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The timing of this is interesting because it's coming on
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  Speaker 1: the heels of the Utah Jazz being uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the target of a lot of ir around the NBA
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  Speaker 1: because of how they were tanking by pulling guys in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter late in the third, early fourth whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And also because.
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  Speaker 1: You have you have to assume that physicals happened when
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  Speaker 1: a trade happens, and the trade physical. As far as
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  Speaker 1: we could tell, the trade physical, he was fine. And
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  Speaker 1: then a post trade examination of the knee because obviously
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  Speaker 1: he was already playing for the Utah Jazz. Now, oh
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  Speaker 1: look we have this, this little.
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  Speaker 4: This node, this little lump in your knee. What do
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  Speaker 4: you make of this?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is that when he got traded
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  Speaker 3: last Thursday. To make the trade official is that each
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  Speaker 3: player has to complete a physical by their new team.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise the trade has to is delayed or it's avoided.
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  Speaker 3: So for example, Shawn last year, remember last year when
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  Speaker 3: the when Mark Williams was being traded to the Lakers
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  Speaker 3: and he failed the Lakers doctors physical. So that's when
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  Speaker 3: the Lakers were going to acquire Mark Williams from the Hornets,
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  Speaker 3: and Haunts are going to try Dalton connect Cam Reddish
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  Speaker 3: in twenty thirty first round pick and two thirty one,
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  Speaker 3: another first round pick. The pick was the trade was avoided.
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  Speaker 3: So now with the Jazz point of view, is that
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  Speaker 3: the question right now I have where I wish there'd
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  Speaker 3: be more clevocation of it. I'm reading that they discovered
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  Speaker 3: the the the growth during the physical after being traded.
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  Speaker 3: So after being traded they discovered it, and so the
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  Speaker 3: question was did they know that before the trade or
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  Speaker 3: that did the jest say to the to the to
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  Speaker 3: the grizzlies that whether as a growth or not, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter to us that we want to trade for him,
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  Speaker 3: and they okated it. We don't, is it clarification? We
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  Speaker 3: don't know that. That's the question. The timing of the
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  Speaker 3: MRI for.
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  Speaker 1: The for the Utah Jazz, I mean, the timing is
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  Speaker 1: what makes this so interesting to me because for the
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  Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, this is this is something that teams do.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If a guy has something that otherwise he could play through,
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  Speaker 1: otherwise would not be a major situation.
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  Speaker 4: But you're trying to tank.
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  Speaker 1: You say, you know what, that ankle injury that really
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  Speaker 1: is nothing and we could just tape up and have
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  Speaker 1: you play. Suddenly it's severe. All those those backspasms that
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  Speaker 1: you had one time when you were twenty years old.
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  Speaker 1: They're back, they have returned, and now we need to
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  Speaker 1: keep you out of the line. Is there any of
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  Speaker 1: this going on with the Utah Jazz, but especially after
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  Speaker 1: they found themselves in the crosshairs of everyone around the
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  Speaker 1: NBA saying, you know, questioning their integrity as an organization,
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  Speaker 1: questioning whether or not they were undermining the integrity of
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  Speaker 1: the game. All of that unjustified by the way, but
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  Speaker 1: it was happening, and this could be, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: a response by the Jazz and say, okay, fine, you
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  Speaker 1: don't like how we're doing it, We'll do it the
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  Speaker 1: old fashioned way.
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  Speaker 3: We'll pretend this guy has something really severe, well, actually
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  Speaker 3: has it. I'm sure you know exactly. He's gonna be surgery,
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  Speaker 3: any type, any type of surgery. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: it's troubling because it affects an athlete's body. So with
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  Speaker 3: Jaron Jackson, the surgery will be done by the Jazz
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  Speaker 3: doctors next week during All Star A break and that
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  Speaker 3: we know Jared Jackson is age twenty six. Again, it
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  Speaker 3: was his left knee. They're removing. Sean mentioned a growth
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  Speaker 3: on it. He's out for the remaining of the season
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  Speaker 3: quickly the Jazz with Darreon Jackson with the Jazz, he
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  Speaker 3: played three games where he was outstanding and he averaged
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  Speaker 3: them twenty two points per game, four point three rebounds,
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  Speaker 3: and two point seven assists, and he played very well.
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  Speaker 3: And you get the feeling that if Jaron Jackson would
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  Speaker 3: play most of the Jazz games with Larry Mark and
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  Speaker 3: the usive nurkicge and with a once the Kanty George
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  Speaker 3: Off ankle injury, which is legit is a sprained ankle.
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  Speaker 3: At the Jazz have twenty seven games left, that Jazz
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  Speaker 3: could win what minimum half those games, and that would
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  Speaker 3: jeopardize the Jazz probably finishing eight or below to make
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  Speaker 3: sure they get their pick in this year's draft, I
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  Speaker 3: mean the twenty twenty six draft. If they finish nine
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  Speaker 3: or above, that pick goes to the of all people,
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  Speaker 3: the ok See Thunder. So that's the part of the
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  Speaker 3: reason why that this Again, there's questions about it, but
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  Speaker 3: no one's questioning that Jaron Jackson has a growth on
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  Speaker 3: his knee. The question the issue right now is just
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  Speaker 3: the timing of it. That's no one knows the answer.
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  Speaker 3: Until the Jazz gave more more narrative about it.
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  Speaker 4: What does it do to the lineup?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I know the answer to that question,
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  Speaker 1: because it makes it look a lot like it did
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  Speaker 1: before the trade happened. But I mean, how many wins
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  Speaker 1: does this take off the slate? Do you think that
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  Speaker 1: you're shutting down? Jaron Jackson Jr.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the first thing as far as wins is that
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  Speaker 3: the Jazz, ironically shown last night's win against the Kings,
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  Speaker 3: they surpassed less season's win total Lesser the Jazz finished
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  Speaker 3: lesser to Jazz finished seventeen and sixty five. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: the Jazz ran out eighteen and thirty seven. They have
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven games left. And what again, some of those
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  Speaker 3: games are absolutely winnable no matter who you have, because
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  Speaker 3: they there are some of those games they're gonna play
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  Speaker 3: against other teams that definitely want to be in the lottery.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely so, the Jazz, if they had older guys there
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  Speaker 3: playing in earnest with twenty seven games left, they could
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  Speaker 3: they could have a winning record those meaning fourteen and thirteen,
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  Speaker 3: if not more. And so if you have fourteen wins
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  Speaker 3: in thirteen and with eighteen already equals thirty two. So
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  Speaker 3: then they're jeopardizing possibly Again, we don't know the other
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  Speaker 3: teams what they're doing as far as if they again
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  Speaker 3: this awful word called tanking. Suan tanking means that you
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  Speaker 3: purposely aren't playing all the players that are eligible in
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  Speaker 3: a game because you want to look at your younger guys.
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  Speaker 3: So it's such a gray area. It's like a gray area,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what a lot of teams do, and the
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  Speaker 3: NBA is trying. As a matter of fact, they had
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  Speaker 3: the NBA Board of Governors had a either a meeting
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  Speaker 3: or was over on it was on a conference call
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  Speaker 3: about how can they improve this? I'm sure also weekends
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  Speaker 3: really is really almost like showing this weekend all the
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  Speaker 3: owner will be there. I feel they're going to discuss this.
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  Speaker 3: How can they make this not a issue as far
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  Speaker 3: as with teams purposely not playing their guys or teams
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  Speaker 3: losing to try to get a better chance of getting it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not forget less you the jest when seventeen games
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  Speaker 3: they had a fourteen percent chance of getting the first
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  Speaker 3: pick and they got the fifth pick fourteen percent, showing
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  Speaker 3: you imagine sewing with surgery. Your doctor says to you,
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  Speaker 3: you have fourteen percent chance of being successful. Guess what,
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  Speaker 3: Doc don't operate on me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was one thing that I think a lot of us,
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  Speaker 1: myself included, we kind of failed to acknowledge over the
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  Speaker 1: course of that tank last year that like, there was
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  Speaker 1: just this almost assumption that it was going to work
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  Speaker 1: out the way that you wanted it to.
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  Speaker 4: Even though the numbers are available to you.
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  Speaker 1: You can look at it and you could say, uh, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: fourteen percent, and it's because it's all relative, right, you
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  Speaker 1: have a higher percentage than everyone else, But you don't
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  Speaker 1: just because you have the highest percentage of winning a
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  Speaker 1: chance to win doesn't mean that you're actually gonna win, right.
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  Speaker 4: Especially when we're talking about fourteen percent.
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  Speaker 1: If it were eighty percent chance you're gonna get the
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  Speaker 1: number one pick, my outrage would probably be a lot
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  Speaker 1: more justified in the fact that you didn't get it,
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  Speaker 1: but fourteen percent to the point that you just made
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  Speaker 1: you don't gamble anything on a fourteen percent chance, and.
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  Speaker 3: Showing that fourteen percent also isn't one team, it's the
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  Speaker 3: bottom three teams. So the teams are the three worst
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  Speaker 3: records as a fourteen percent chance of getting the number
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  Speaker 3: one pick, in the draft. So this year's draft, we
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  Speaker 3: know about it because it's such an emotional thing because
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  Speaker 3: of aj Ajdvancer of BYU is a tremendous talent. He'll
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  Speaker 3: be picked. He's gonna be picked either Sean one or two. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you can debate that. And Cameron Boozer former Jazz son
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  Speaker 3: of Carlos Boozer we picked, could be probably picked number three.
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  Speaker 3: And also this draft is also so interesting because of
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  Speaker 3: Darren Peterson's I want to say controversy, but why isn't
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  Speaker 3: he playing?
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  Speaker 4: That's I'm out on that. If I'm a franchise, why
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  Speaker 4: is he playing?
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  Speaker 1: Is he? Is he?
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  Speaker 3: Is it his injured ankle? Does he have the flu?
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  Speaker 1: Is there?
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  Speaker 3: How much everything is his agent holding him out? Is
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  Speaker 3: his family saying to Bill Sep the great coach of
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  Speaker 3: Kansas And by the way, Kansas right now, Jayhawks, in
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  Speaker 3: case you're wondering, have won eight straight. So let's say
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  Speaker 3: that the.
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  Speaker 4: Number one team.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely you're talking, you're talking like big time competition and
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  Speaker 3: they won eight in a row. So so Darren Peaston's
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  Speaker 3: teammates aren't saying it, but whether you play or not,
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  Speaker 3: guess what, fella, We're gonna win anyway. That's what they're saying.
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  Speaker 3: And that's and that's what that's you should do if
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  Speaker 3: you're a player, Actually you should do.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a testament to what Kansas is doing. And look,
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  Speaker 1: he's a great player. He's an incredibly talented player. I
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  Speaker 1: have been this way for the longest time because it
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  Speaker 1: goes back to being a lowly walk on in college,
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  Speaker 1: where you see guys that are on scholarship that aren't
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  Speaker 1: earning their keep because they won't play hurt, they won't
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  Speaker 1: practice hurt, they refuse to kind of push through the problems.
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  Speaker 4: Right, And I'm looking at this when we're.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about NBA basketball, we're talking about Kansas.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if your starter at Kansas, that's.
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  Speaker 1: Millions of dollars, right, Oh, absolutely, And you're looking at
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  Speaker 1: it and you're talking about a number one overall pick
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  Speaker 1: in the upcoming NBA draft potentially, and it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you might be available. Fifty percent of the time we've
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  Speaker 1: watched that how it works in the NBA. That's Anthony Davis, right,
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  Speaker 1: Even if it's one hundred percent legitimate, and it's not
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  Speaker 1: a toughness question, it's not a mental toughness question. But
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  Speaker 1: you're just made a glass and you get hurt all
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  Speaker 1: the time. I don't want that on my team, regardless
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  Speaker 1: of how talented the guy is. Because if your car,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a Lamborghini, Gordy like you do. That's
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  Speaker 1: what Gordy drives. All of you people. If you got
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  Speaker 1: a Lamborghini and it's only working half the time, you
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  Speaker 1: got half of a car.
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  Speaker 3: No, thank you, and now show up right now showing,
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a Lamborghini. I have, in a very happily
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  Speaker 3: a Chrysler Jeep that I've had that I you I've had.
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  Speaker 3: I've had a cheap showing Chrysler cheap for the last
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  Speaker 3: thirty years. I like that, Yeah, thirty years. Different model, brand, loyalty, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: ran loyalty now. Obviously my former employer Utah Jazz, Larry Miller,
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  Speaker 3: I go through Larry Miller. Heuse you're winning. But I
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's take a break.
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  Speaker 1: We've got plenty of things to talk about with this
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  Speaker 1: Utah Jazz team and the NBA beyond other trades happened.
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  Speaker 1: Other trades we're seeing the results of those trades are
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  Speaker 1: the lack thereof because of things like this, like players
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  Speaker 1: being shut down. We discussed this on the show yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Trey Young has played how many games for the Wizards?
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  Speaker 4: None?
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, lots to get to with Gordy Chier's It's the
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  Speaker 4: Do you guys still want to play in the All
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  Speaker 4: Star Game?
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, Yes, oh, absolutely, The answer is yes they do,
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  Speaker 3: especially now with the new format and the reason why
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  Speaker 3: it's showing global branding. It's a big thing playing in
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  Speaker 3: the All Star game. And that now with the the
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  Speaker 3: NBA is trying to figure out when we say game,
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  Speaker 3: it's more of an exhibition, all right, So that's what
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  Speaker 3: it is. So the NBA, I'll call the NBA. It's
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  Speaker 3: also a weekend, but it's the NBA exhibition. And that
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  Speaker 3: this year, for the first time, there's a team. There's
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  Speaker 3: a three teams, and that it's almost like a round
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  Speaker 3: robin tournament where there'll be four to twelve minute games
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  Speaker 3: with the top two teams by record will advance to
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  Speaker 3: face each other in the championship game. If all three
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  Speaker 3: teams have a one to one record, if the game three,
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  Speaker 3: the tiebreaker would be point differential in each team's two rounds.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what's gonna be right now. So here is
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  Speaker 3: going to be the world team, all right. And so
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  Speaker 3: now with the shay Jills, Alexander he's legitimately hurt. They
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  Speaker 3: added to uh they edit a Chagoon of the Houston Rockets,
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  Speaker 3: and so he's playing right now as far as him
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  Speaker 3: being the guy Alfern Chagoon. So here's the here's the
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  Speaker 3: world team. Jamal Murray of Canada, Nikolai Jokic of Serbia,
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  Speaker 3: Luka Dancig who's hurt right now, these's gonna play Slovenia,
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  Speaker 3: Victim went Beyond of France, Pascal Siakam of Cameroon, Danny
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  Speaker 3: Adia of Israel, who's playing tonight for the Portland Trailblazers
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  Speaker 3: is tremendous player, calls any towns of Themerican Republic. And
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  Speaker 3: now with the addition right now of Alpha ron Chagoon
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  Speaker 3: of Turkey. So that's the World team. So that's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be so interesting. Where the American players now, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to have a round with three teams of eight, So
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  Speaker 3: two teams of American players and one World team will
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  Speaker 3: play each other, and it should be exciting and it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be different. We'll see how it plays out. I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure the NBA is looking at it as far
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  Speaker 3: as a TV TV partnership. How it's gonna play out,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm all for it though.
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  Speaker 1: reason I asked the question about whether or not guys
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  Speaker 1: want to play in the All Star Game is because
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  Speaker 1: you know, like we've gotten to a point now where
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, the Pro Bowl just needs to go away.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody cares about it anymore. It's not a thing that
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  Speaker 1: people want to participate in. And you know there's guys
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  Speaker 1: like Lebron has kind of said, eh, well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to play in another All Star Game. Some of
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  Speaker 1: these veterans who it's nothing new for them might not
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  Speaker 1: be as enthusiastic about the game. But you see headlines
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  Speaker 1: outside of the trade, headlines that are happening right now.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, Luka Doncis is out for now, but
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  Speaker 1: he wants to be in the All Star Game. Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Flag out against the Lakers, and now he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be part of the Rising Stars Challenge. So like
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  Speaker 1: I just I wonder availability not being available, how guys
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  Speaker 1: really feel about it when it comes All Star weekend?
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  Speaker 3: No, they're off for it. And speaking of Cooper Flag,
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  Speaker 3: he's out with React actually spring Foot the last game.
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  Speaker 3: So now it's good for the Jazz because Ace Bailey
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  Speaker 3: now replaces him. So Ace Bailey will plays in a
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  Speaker 3: Rising Star Game, which is really the rookies and the
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  Speaker 3: sophomores as far as in the NBA, and that's tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: night and they'll be on Peacock And so Ace Belly,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: who you can make a discussion, probably got snubbed and
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: that Ace Belly is a tremendous talent. He's one of
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: the foundational pieces as the Jazz go forward. And everybody
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: loves his game because he's a averaging twelve points a game,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: but he's getting out of team rhythm and you have
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the feeling that each passing year he'll be able to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: be even more explosive. And he's a shot maker, and
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: that he tries to execute the offense but still showcase
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: these individual skills, which is really high. And let's not
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: forget he's only he turns twenty in August, so he's
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: such a young guy. So visualize him hopefully in jazz
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: basketball relatively soon in a playoff game, him being at
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: age twenty one to twenty two and him really trying
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to take the ball to the basket and for pull
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: up jump shots or hitting rainbow threes. He's definitely part
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: of the jazz future and he's gonna play tomorrow night
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: against other the younger guys in the NBA. Quickly about this. Often,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: when when you judge players, quote on your favorite team.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: So here right now, we live in Salt Lake City,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: so it's Utah Jazz. But just say that, yet other teams.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: You're from a different area and you move to Salt
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Lake City. Judge your your favorite teams players against other
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: teams players in the same age group. That's how you
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: judge it. So don't judge Ace Bally type players that
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: he's not better than, will say Nikolai Jokic, because it's
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: it's not it's irrelevant, it's not even on the same
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: orbit judging against other guys within the one year to
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: three years as far as their age group, and Ace
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Bailey's going to be highly competitive in that age that,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: in that and that in the nineteen to twenty three
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: to zero reference point. He's right there too as far
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: as talent.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: All right, Gordia Chas is hanging out with us for
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: another half hour or so. He has some underrated trades
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that took place before the trade deadline.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: We're going to get to. We'll have Gordy's list of
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: the day. There's plenty left.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I want to pick his brain a little bit about
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: college hoops right now BYU snapped a bit of a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: losing skid. The University of Utah men's basketball team is
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: really really struggling right now. If we have time, we'll
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: get to all of it with Gordy. Don't go anywhere.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven hundred and
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  Speaker 1: ninety two ONEFM.
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  Speaker 2: Listening to The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Hunding
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  Speaker 2: Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one a.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome down to the Shawan O'Connell show, we have Gordy
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Chase and now we have Eric Weddle coming up in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: about twenty five minutes, a jam packed show that will
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: also include Bobby Marks at one o'clock and Bill Riley
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: at one point thirty.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: And speaking of Bobby Walks, we worked together with the
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Jersey Nets, so I remember young Bobby Marks back in
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: two thousand and five six. We worked together and he
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: was We all knew in the office that he was
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: a rising star, and obviously he was. And Bobby Walks
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: has worked for the work for the Nets and other
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: different teams, and for the and also for other outlets
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: where he's a sensational Him and Wojo broke so many
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: stories over the year, so I'm looking forward to hearing them,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and please please give him my best.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's Gordy Giers. He's hanging out with us
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for the rest of this segment.
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  Speaker 4: To open hour number two. Gordy the the underrated trades
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  Speaker 4: that happened before the deadline.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Obviously, we spent a lot of time talking about what
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the Jared Jackson Junior acquisition would mean for the Utah
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Jazz and now he's shut down for the rest of
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the year for a knee surgery, but was not the
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  Speaker 1: only trade, not anything close to.
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  Speaker 4: Being the only trade that happened before the deadline.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what I was wanted a few guys just to
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: think about the Cleveland Cavaliers. They last year won sixty games,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: had a flame out in the second round, and as
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: you speak right now, they won five games. And so
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: they added the week of the trading deadline, which is
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: last week. But it just magnifies right now because now
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: he can pause because of the al still weekend. He
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: had a Dennis Shrewder and Keyon Ellis who's a tremendous
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: defensive player and ball mover, and then they added Lightning
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Rod Hall of Famer first ballot James Harden. So now
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the question is showing philosophically, can James Harden and Donvin
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Mitchell can they really exist on the floor because both
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: guys are ultra talented and they're both used to being
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: ball dominant. Now can it? Can it work? And so
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: that's so interesting because the Cabs they were struggling, some injuries,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: but they were struggling. And then Daris Garling, who's a
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: two time All Star, goes to the Clippers who've also
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: they moved on. So the Clippers get a guy that's
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: an All Star replacing James Harden, but they gained ten
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: years on the as far as playing, playing, as far
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: as age group. And then the question of the Cavaliers
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: James Harden, unfortunately his career arc has strung most playoff series.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Can he can he reinvent himself with the Cavaliers and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: get a new bounce right now and he lead the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Cavaliers to go against the Detroit Pistons or the Celts
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: of the Knicks to get past the minimum into the
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: conference finals. That's the issue right now, and we're gonna
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: find out because so much his chemistry. From the Clippers
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: point of view, they hed a guy that's an All Star.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Speaking of La and to that, the Lakers, Lakers, Luca
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Dants you remember, do you realize that for the listeners
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: right now, and there's a lot of Laker fans from
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: so Cow living in Salt Lake City area, Luka Donts,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Austin Reeves and Lebron James that they're big three in
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: this this year right now they've only played ten games
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: together this season, just total of ten games. And the
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Lakers right now with thirty two and twenty one. They're
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the sixth seed, and if they if playoffs started right
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: now today, the Lakers would play the Nuggets of all
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: people in the first round. So showing which means that
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: all these once in a generational players, someone's gonna be
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: knocked out in the first round. That's the beauty of
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. Hey, we could be champions and you might
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: be Oh, by the way you knocked that in the
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: first round. Wow, it just shows you how it's so fractional.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: So remember the other guys are good. So I say,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of times, John, I'm on the street
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: and I see fans they said to me, Yo, what's up, Gordy,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: what's up with the Jazz? And I always say to
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: them very simply to my newborn friend, showing it at
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: a you know, six thirty the morning at Starbucks, where
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I said, listen, remember it's who you play against. So
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: your favorite team, the Jazz, they're getting better, Jaron Jackson,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: et cetera. All these guys, Larry markining, these guys are
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: good players, but it's who you play against. Also, you
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: have to put any equation that the competition will't allow
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you to be good sometimes they're gonna challenge you. And
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: that's the beauty of sports.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: All right, the uh.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: The Nasmith Basketball Hall of Fame has announced the twenty
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: twenty six finalists.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna read you these names.
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  Speaker 1: You just give me a yes or a no, whether
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: or not they get in this year, they get in whenever,
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  Speaker 1: all right. North American Committee Finalists in alphabetical order. Joey
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Crawford the referee, Yes, Mark Fu coach, Mark Fu Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Blake Griffin the player. No, Kevin Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: Gary McKnight the coach.
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  Speaker 3: He's a high school coach for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, okay. Dick Matta.
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  Speaker 1: No, Doc Rivers no, Kelvin Sampson yes, Amari Stodemeyer No.
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  Speaker 4: Jerry Welsh.
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  Speaker 3: He's a coach for Potsdam State for like he went
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: like a thousand games. It's crazy. And in case you're
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: running Potsham State's upstate New York where the average temperature
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: is about four degrees below zero issue running Potsdam, I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: one time showing I get do not driving in New
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: York State Thruway upstate New York in the middle of January,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: February and March.
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  Speaker 2: Do not.
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  Speaker 3: I did it many time when I was a crazy
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: recruiter in my Big East days, and I can assure
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: you do not so Jerry Welsh, coach of Patsdam State,
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  Speaker 3: I would.
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  Speaker 4: Say yes, Okay, Buck Williams, No, but I love him. No,
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  Speaker 4: all right.
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  Speaker 1: The Women's Committee, the nineteen ninety six United States National team,
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  Speaker 1: which is the women's dream team effectively, right, so they're
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  Speaker 1: getting in?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely rightfully?
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  Speaker 4: So yes.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Jennifer Azzi, Yes, she got Gang. Alena Della Dama
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  Speaker 1: got game. Shamika Holds Claw got Gang. Cannas Parker, No,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: well she's got gang. Her brother's the general manager of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know this person. I'm sure you do. Duvon
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Is Ivkovich.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, coach, Yeah, international coach, Yeah, absolutely yes.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Tal Brody as a contributor.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tal Brody was this a guy who was one
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: of the first grade ever player. He played in Illinois,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: he played in Israel. He's legendary. He was like an
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Olympic scorer in Israel. He's an American though, and he's
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: a Jewish heritage, and he's the first like every like
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: great great Israeli player. He should get in.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, Mike D'Antoni. No, the Veterans Committee finalist is Marcus Johnson. No,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: all right, Gordon's got a high bar for the Nasmith
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: No, I do again. Blake Griffin in other words, like
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: hit some great number, statistics, high flying. You know, we
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: all love those commercials that he jumped over the jump
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: over the car. I get it, I understand it. It's wonderful.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: But again the first ballot, we're talking again. The first ballot,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I would say no, because maybe so many other guys
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: that are also you can make the same discussion, the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: same stats, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You could remember,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: now this is hall of fame. It's not an American
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. It's global. It's all it's you know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of NBA players. There's also involved college
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: coaches and also European coaches, players, et cetera. It's all
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: part of it. I think it's great.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: How many times have you visited Springfield, Massachusetts for the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Nate Smith Hall of Fame?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Thirty? Wow, thirty time? Yeah. I used to live back east. Yeah,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and when I coached that Providence in Dartmouth, we passed
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: it all the time, so I'd stopped by and uh
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: and see city statues and think about think about it
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: years later. You know, I worked with two people in
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame besides coaching guys. Rick Wtino was
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: that Providence and Jerry Sloan at Utah Jazz and then
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: we we we we had to. I coached Palcaso, he's
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame from the Grizzlies, obviously, John
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and Call to say the least, and Ray Alle and
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I coached Realit at Seattle. So I had a lot
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: of people that I worked with over the years as
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: far as coaching and playing the Hall of Fame. So
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I have an idea. But again, Sean, the question is
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: the committee. Sometimes the committee is they're too young or
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: too old about players. So I'm at that age group
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: where I remember all these guys when he played. Both
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: men and women are coached. But you're in a hall
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: of fame. Forget about Hall of Fame. You're in a
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: hall of fame. So is James Peterson. So the Radio
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, that's right, we're in the forget about that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: The ESPN seven hundred Radio Hall of Fame.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Between twenty twenty four and twenty twenty six first ballot
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: in that particular micro class. That's right, Portland at Utah, Yes,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Slazers at Jazz. What do we expect from this game
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: given the roster change with an injury, a surgery? Whatever
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: tickets available for his low seven dollars. By the way,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for a little family night, what do
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you expect from the Trail Blazers?
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Eight and a half point favorites for Portland?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Well, Portland right now in their point of view, they
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: want to win. So they haven't gone to the playoffs
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, so it's four seasons and could
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: be five. So the bite fight and cloring, and right
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: now they are the tenth seed in the West. They're
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: trying to stay in the play in tournament, which right
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: now would be Suns, Warriors, Clippers and Trailblazers all right,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: So they're led by mentioned before a second ago by
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Denny Adiya is this Israeli guy that the Washington Wizards,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: for some bizarre reason, traded the Wizards. They traded all
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: this guy, all Star to go to the Portland Trailblazers,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and it's paid off for the team up north. With
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Denny Addiya is a tremendous player. He's averaging twenty five
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: point two points in game, six point six assists, seven
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: point two rebounds. So Sean and James, this guy's got
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: an all around game and he plays to win, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: he's in his prime of his career. And their problem
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: with the Blazers is that they lead the NBA in
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: most turnovers yikes, at sixteen point five, but the Jazz
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: are second most turnovers at fifteen point three. So tonight's
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: gam of the delta center the two teams that don't
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: value the ball or playing each other. And besides turnovers,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of times fans think it's only about passing.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: A turnover could be also a moving screen, a walking violation,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: or an offensive foul meaning a charge or a boa
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: to guy in the face when a guy's guarding you
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and you have the ball as a turnover and in
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the add to this is that the Trailblazers are the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: worst three point shooting team in the NBA, shooting a
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: very chili emphasized chili thirty four point one percent, and
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: that they're the twenty eighth worst shooting team over on
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: the NBA, shooting only forty five percent with only the
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Pacers and the nets worse. So someone's got to win tonight.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I know the Trailblazers are favorite, but I'm gonna lean
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: towards the Jazz. The Jazz have good players. This is
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: like a myth about people say about, you know, tanking,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: et cetera. Hey, if I'm Isaiah Kalia, forget about this
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: tanking stuff. I'm getting a chance to play. And Isaiah
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Kalia has played absolutely well. So I'm gonna lean towards
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the Jazz tonight. But let's mention about Klier. Let's give
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: me some of some kudos. In the shoutout. Since the
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: month of February, Sewan is that he's averaging seventeen points
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: seven points per game and twelve point two assist. So
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: this guy is averaging a double double in a month
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: of February, and he's shooting fifty two points six from
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: the field and getting three point seven rebounds. So last
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: night's game, when the Jazz demolished the segment of Kings,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: he gets twelve points and fourteen assist in the game,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: and that's absolutely impressive. So I'm looking for the Jazz
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: tonight through whoever's on the court that Jazz play to
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: win and enter the All Star Weekend with a winning
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: three out of four games, including winning winning the last three,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and that'd be great for the Jazz, for the players.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I leaned towards the players and the coaches, showing I
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: know I'm biased because I'm a former coach. Is that
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the coaches want to win, Sewan player, when you're on
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: the court and you tie your sneakers up, you want
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: to win. You don't care about the twenty twenty sixth draft.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: It's irrelevant. The only draft you care about. You care
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: about is why the drafting in your window right now?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Why it is so cold in my house?
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I have a draft right now, Sean, you laughing. It's
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the truth. That's how players think. That's how I would
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: think as a coach. Oh the draft, what it's chili
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: here right now? It's drafting right Oh the Jazz, let's
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: hope they come. They will come to play tonight. Should
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: be a good game.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Before we get to your list, the you decided you're
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: going to be our ice dancing expert on the show
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: yes during this Olympics and what a day yesterday in
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the Olympic ice dancing world.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Uh controversy, controversy very much, and it hits the backdrop
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: also that I watched it this morning. But the Olympics recently,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: my wife and the five most Dangerous Friends Sean, we're
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: watching together, and so picture me with these five women
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: ages I will say sixty and above, okay, and they're
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: all commenting about these hot guys, that Olympians. I'm so
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: tired of hearing about hot guys that Olympians. Hey, listen whatever.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I like the Olympics, but this is like, will you
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: stop talking about these hot guys, how buff they are
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: and how agile they are. That's the backdrop. Okay, okay, all.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, I would love to be invited to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: that viewing party by the way, Yeah, simen.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, older women, right, I know, age seventy five and
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I'm an ulster, but trust me, I was getting a
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: headache listen to these women about these hot, hot Olympians.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: All right. With that said, though, yeah, rhythm and ice dancing,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: So the Americans lost to the French and a really
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: unbelievable performance by by both duets, where again I don't
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: know all the rules, but I just know there was
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: a technical things where the commentator is kept on saying
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: that they're coming coming out of a spend, that they
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: lost a little bit of a point edge, and so
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: it was spectacular. So the French won the goal, the
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: civil the Civil medals won by the Americans, and the
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Canadians won won the bronze. Now the two Americans Sean
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: and has A has a, Sean, you believe in Kevin Bacon?
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Six degrees of separation to you? Yes, you do?
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: So this so hit the question right now as I
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  Speaker 3: say to this, is that it involves the coach is
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  Speaker 3: now going from the Utes to Michigan. Oh, Kyle Winningham
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  Speaker 3: all right, because you realize, Sean and James that the
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  Speaker 3: silver medal winners, Madison Chuck and Evan Bates, they're married,
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  Speaker 3: they live in ann Auburn, Michigan. So so there'll be
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: a game shown where those people will be trotted out
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  Speaker 3: at halftime. That's exactly right, Sean. I know that you
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: love Kevin Bacon besides actually like baking as far as
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: eating it. Besides that is that sixth degrees separation. And
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: so when I was watching it is that it was
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: it was really a great competition. Again, I'm an amateur.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just a fan saying this, but it was really
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  Speaker 3: great and that Also it's even more amazing Sean that
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  Speaker 3: the gold medal winners, they're the French. The French duet
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  Speaker 3: they trained with the American who came in second place.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: They had the exact same coach, and they traded in Montreal,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Quebec during the off season together, and so they're actually friends.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: And talk about showing picture of practice sessions with both
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: those those duets.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Now, and so the last point about it is that
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I was amazed by the strength of all the athletes,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: by the agility, by their grace, by their technique, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: most of all by their one this and so in
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  Speaker 3: rhythm ice skating, it's two people, but they're actually one
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  Speaker 3: the way they skate, Seawan. So it's really spectacular. Kudos
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  Speaker 3: right now. I learned a lot about it, and it's
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I'm all for the Olympics, and I'm so glad showing
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you instead of these crazy women. I thank you.
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  Speaker 4: All right, what's the list today?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: My list today, Sean, I'm gonna acquiz you guys also
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: later on, So get ready to put on your thinking hat.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I know it's hard for you guys to think sometimes,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: but we'll try to do it. This is the New
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  Speaker 3: Orleans Jazz Utah Jazz All Star Game Selections of all time.
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  Speaker 3: All right only, it's only sixteen players, and I'll go
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  Speaker 3: through it quickly. Number sixteen most recent Larry Marketing one
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  Speaker 3: time twenty twenty three, Mike Conley twenty twenty one, one time,
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  Speaker 3: Leonard truck Robinson nineteen seventy eight, one time All Star selection,
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  Speaker 3: Ricky Green nineteen eighty four, one time, Mark Eaton nineteen
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  Speaker 3: eighty nine, one time, Andre Carolinko two thousand and four,
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  Speaker 3: one time, Memono one time two thousand and seven, Gordon
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  Speaker 3: Hayward one time two thousand and seventeen, two times, Carlos
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Boozer two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 3: two times, Damon Williams his trusted sidekick twenty ten, two
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  Speaker 3: Thy eleven three times, Rudy Gobert twenty and twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: one and twenty two again his trusted ally Donovan Mitchell
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: same year as again twenty twenty during the pandemic twenty
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: twenty one and twenty twenty two three times. Pistol Pete
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: marriage three times nineteen seventy seven nineteen seventy eight and
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine. Now, who mentioned the years now going
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: to take too long, But Adrian Dentley did it six times,
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  Speaker 3: the first time in nineteen eighty and the last time
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six. John Stockton All Star participant ten times.
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  Speaker 3: The first time was the first time was nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 3: nine and the last time was two thousand and The
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: number one player to play most ever in jazz history
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  Speaker 3: and the All Star Game was cal Ma Malone. His
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  Speaker 3: first time was nineteen eighty eight and his last time
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: was two thousand and two. He did it fourteen times
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: All Star Game. So the question is right now also
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: is who's the next Jazz All Star? Future out?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I could see Keyante getting a nod. I could see
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Ace Bailey at some point being an All Star. And obviously,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you know Jaron Jackson Junior has been an All Star before.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see him get back to that in
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a jazz uniform.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, All right, Now, let's go music, right now?
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  Speaker 3: I Sean in nineteen ninety three, I know you guys
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: are youngsters, all right? In nineteen ninety three, who sang
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: a national anthem at the Delta Center When John Stockton
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: and Comolo was selected to be co MVPs nineteen ninety three.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Who do you think, James, Who do you think? I
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: know you're just one at that time, you were just
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: You're Bailey born.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I was one. I was a year old.
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  Speaker 3: I know you heard it, but you heard about it,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: no idea.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see Gordy Chia saying that.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Oh I'd be dangerous me singing a cappella Yi thorough
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Bailey thorough Billy was playing, though, But no, I love it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Good gi guys, Donny Osmond, Donnie Osma loved these things.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Please text showan O'Connor of the text line about what
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: you think right now? Will anybody? I'll give you a hint. Okay,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: it was a group. Oh that's exactly right. I love
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: boys to my boys to men. There we go, all right.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: And in the most recent Jazz All Star Game, which
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: is twenty twenty three, who sang the national anthem? Oh?
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Man, I should know that one? All right?
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  Speaker 2: She she.
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  Speaker 3: She was born in Alaska. Jewel, that's exactly right, Jewel,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: that's I love these hints. I should be with you
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: as far as in password show. Jewel, that's exactly right,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely all right. And in nineteen eighty nine when Carl
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Malone also became it was MVP and the astrodome shown,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: which you know it's it's it's considered the eighth Wonder
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: of the world. Who sang the national anthem in nineteen
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: eighty nine when calls first ever MVP, she's famous.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Do I get Do I get a hint on this one?
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  Speaker 1: It's a female female, a nineteen eighty nine, eighty nine
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: female uh Tina Turner.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Oh no, again, I'm impressed. You're close. Okay, close, You're close.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: You know you're close. You're right, You're close. You guys
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: are close. One more, guess I don't want to people
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: right now hanging and driving in the car right now.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: The young name Outrea Franklin. You're close again. I like you,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: You're you're close. I love you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so we know you're close.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: We love it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: It's one of the great female black singers.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Natalie Cole.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Natalie Cole.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Thus, that's my list today. I'm trying to I want
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: to try to educate Sean old Sean and also James
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: are trying to educate these young fellas right now. And
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: we all do love music. And I bet you right now,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: who's singing national anthem on Sunday? You know no, Brandy
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Charlie Pooh, Brandy, Brandy brand absolutely and the Canadian national
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: to be sung by Sarah McLaughlin eight Olympics. You mean
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: no Sunday the All Star Game. Who's singing this year?
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Got yeah?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: This game?
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: This past Sunday.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, I met No, it's I'm sorry. This
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: All Star Game.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Brandy will perform the national anthem with the seventy fifth NBA.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Also seventy five years.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what Lesta today. Sean is very I'm very
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: impressed by your knowledge of music. James Peterson, I know
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: you're a young guy. You're a little bit shaky, but
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: that's okay.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: James has never even listened to boys to men. I'm
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: not a big music guy, so it doesn't it's no,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: that's fair, that's fair, No, it's fair. All right, Gordy,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: you're the man. I appreciate your time as always.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Peace out, Gordia Jias, our resident NBA guru,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: brought to you.
• 43:20
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