Latest / New Teacher Talk / Ep 112: Transforming Teaching: A Journey Through Mathematics Education
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- 0:01Welcome back to another episode of New Teacher Talk where
- 0:05we discuss the most common challenges that early career
- 0:09educators experience and find answers,
- 0:12whether you are in a rural, suburban, or urban setting.
- 0:16In this episode,
- 0:17we are going to talk about a topic that many early career
- 0:21educators think about,
- 0:23continuing to learn and grow as a professional,
- 0:27specifically the value of graduate school,
- 0:30as well as the benefits of more certifications and
- 0:33endorsements.
- 0:35But before we introduce our special guest today,
- 0:38let us do some quick introductions of our own.
- 0:42I'm Dr.
- 0:42Beth, one of the co-founders of this podcast channel.
- 0:46My background in education includes being a high school
- 0:49band director, teacher educator, and mentor.
- 0:53And I'm Dr.
- 0:54Anna,
- 0:55an early childhood generalist who mentors educators on
- 0:59their journey toward National Board Certification.
- 1:03Dr.
- 1:03Beth and I are excited to have a special guest joining us
- 1:06today on this episode, Hannah Curran.
- 1:09She is the first Master's in Elementary Mathematics
- 1:13graduate offered by the New Jersey Center for Teaching and
- 1:18Learning.
- 1:18Hannah has a background in special education and recently
- 1:23expanded her career by adding a middle school mathematics
- 1:27endorsement.
- 1:28While she currently teaches special ed at her alma mater,
- 1:32Pompton High School,
- 1:33her true passion is working with middle school students.
- 1:37Hannah was apprehensive about committing to a master's
- 1:40program,
- 1:41but those doubts quickly vanished as she immersed herself
- 1:45in the learning process.
- 1:46One of the biggest takeaways for Hannah in committing to a
- 1:50master's program was the idea that true learning should be
- 1:54measured by how well you understand the content,
- 1:57not how fast you learn it.
- 2:00Welcome, Hannah.
- 2:02Hello, thank you so much for having me.
- 2:05Would you tell us a little bit about yourself that we
- 2:07didn't share during our introduction?
- 2:16Yeah, you hit on so much already, but I am an early career educator myself. I've
- 2:17had the unique opportunity of venturing in all different
- 2:20paths,
- 2:20whether that be starting off as a general education teacher
- 2:24in an urban setting,
- 2:25teaching social studies to now returning back to where I
- 2:28went to high school as a special education teacher who is
- 2:32currently teaching science,
- 2:34not where I expected my career to go five years ago when I
- 2:37graduated undergrad,
- 2:38but I've explored a lot of opportunities and I'm excited to
- 2:42see where I continue to grow.
- 2:44You know, Hannah,
- 2:45what we hear from our listeners all the time is that they
- 2:48really enjoy hearing from early career educators like
- 2:52yourself,
- 2:52and here you're already talking about how your path is
- 2:55taking you in directions that you had never considered
- 2:58originally.
- 2:59and that you really find a value as you move forward in
- 3:02your profession.
- 3:04We're curious to know,
- 3:05because you are the first graduate of that special master's
- 3:09program through the NJCTL,
- 3:12what led you to pursue your degree in mathematics from the
- 3:16New Jersey Center?
- 3:18So currently in New Jersey,
- 3:21and I'm pretty sure this is a nationwide issue,
- 3:24there's definitely a teacher shortage in those specific
- 3:27areas of math, science, and special ed.
- 3:30And those were areas where myself,
- 3:32I was a little insecure growing up when it came to math and
- 3:35science.
- 3:36I wasn't a bad student,
- 3:37but I was hesitant to dive in when I was picking my
- 3:41undergrad choice just because of a comfort level.
- 3:44And with the shortage,
- 3:45I found myself being placed in inclusion classes,
- 3:48acting as a special education teacher in the math and
- 3:51science setting because of how hard it has been to find
- 3:55those teachers.
- 3:56And slowly I started to convince myself,
- 3:58I can definitely do this.
- 4:00And I'm not sure why I was so hesitant in the past about
- 4:02doing it.
- 4:04So at that point, being in my mid 20s,
- 4:07it was I can do this, but how am I going to do this now?
- 4:11Because life can be complex.
- 4:13You know, being young,
- 4:14everyone thinks you have all this free time.
- 4:16No, there's a lot going on all the time.
- 4:19So I was researching,
- 4:21coming up with ways that I could piece together credits.
- 4:23And I came across NJCTL.
- 4:26I had asked a few people at the school I was in at the time
- 4:29about it.
- 4:30And someone told me they had heard of it.
- 4:32And they heard great things.
- 4:34So I figured, why not give it a try.
- 4:35And now I'm going back to NJCTL to get my science
- 4:39endorsement just because of how accommodating the program
- 4:43was, but also how much I learned.
- 4:45I truly walked away feeling like the expert in everything
- 4:48they taught me.
- 4:50That is a ringing endorsement for the New Jersey Center for
- 4:53Teaching and Learning, the practicality,
- 4:55the availability. Here you've already completed your work
- 4:58in math and now you're moving on to science.
- 5:02And especially as a special educator,
- 5:05it's so important that you have that understanding a grasp
- 5:09of the content that you are trying to share with students
- 5:14who have been struggling in that content area.
- 5:17And by having that level of confidence yourself,
- 5:20it just makes your work easier and I'm sure more
- 5:25gratifying.
- 5:27100%.
- 5:27I actually have convinced a colleague now to also go to
- 5:30NJCTL because they recently added special ed.
- 5:34That's excellent.
- 5:36As this degree deepened your teaching practice, c
- 5:39ould you share an example or two about how your practice
- 5:42has changed?
- 5:49100%. So there were two main takeaways for me when I was going through the coursework. Like
- 5:49I touched upon earlier,
- 5:50I was definitely a little bit insecure with my own self
- 5:53before diving in.
- 5:55And my takeaway was it's not about the speed.
- 5:58It's more about mastering content and that's what the
- 6:01program did for me.
- 6:03I could go back and rewatch modules to ensure I really knew
- 6:06them.
- 6:07And now I do that in my own class.
- 6:10So my kids who are struggling with the concept,
- 6:13when the test comes,
- 6:14they can go back and rewatch that as many times as they
- 6:17need.
- 6:17I post all of my materials on our class resource page,
- 6:22so they can always go back to it and they can come see me
- 6:25and say, Hey, you talked about this topic.
- 6:27I'm a little lost.
- 6:29And then we might have a conversation of there was an
- 6:31assignment tied to that.
- 6:32You've sat back down with me.
- 6:34We've reviewed it.
- 6:35You're feeling more comfortable.
- 6:36Let's retake it because yes,
- 6:38the scores in the gradebook are important.
- 6:41But if that student took the time to master that content,
- 6:44I'm not going to hold that old grade to them.
- 6:47They took the time to truly master it and understand it.
- 6:50And across all content areas, all curriculums,
- 6:53we see how curriculums build on each other.
- 6:54So if the student's taking the time now,
- 6:56it's only going to benefit them later when that becomes the
- 6:59prior knowledge that they need.
- 7:01So that was one of the main, main takeaways.
- 7:04The other one is polling and getting that constant
- 7:08assessment from my students.
- 7:10I was not a fan of my undergraduate work.
- 7:13I left saying I will never give a test.
- 7:15I'm huge on project-based learning,
- 7:17and I still am very big on project based learning.
- 7:19But I've now left with the concept of polling and those
- 7:23multiple choice questions tied in throughout a lesson to
- 7:27see.
- 7:27Can you tell me if it's A, B or C on the fly?
- 7:30Allows me to reflect and see if I need to go back and touch
- 7:33on something before we continue on.
- 7:36So those are the two big takeaways for me.
- 7:38And I think my students really would say it helps them 100
- 7:41percent and it allows them to find success day in and day
- 7:44out of my classroom.
- 7:46It seems like the attitude, too,
- 7:48that you bring to them that you don't have to learn it
- 7:52quickly,
- 7:53that it's about the effort that you put into the work that
- 7:57you're doing. How you are going to be able to grasp that
- 8:00material? And,
- 8:01you give them that sense that I will stick with you.
- 8:06I am here for you and I will support that learning no
- 8:10matter how long it takes.
- 8:12That's so important to students to understand that the
- 8:16teacher is really there on their side.
- 8:19Yeah, I think coming out of the pandemic,
- 8:21there was this big push for social-emotional learning,
- 8:24and that is my take on it.
- 8:26I'm still touching on the curriculum content,
- 8:29but I'm also here for you along the way to make sure you
- 8:31have this.
- 8:34You know, Hannah,
- 8:35one of the reasons why we were so excited to have you as
- 8:38our special guest is because early-career teachers,
- 8:41like you experienced,
- 8:43you've encouraged your peers to consider going back to
- 8:46school and getting their degree or certification or
- 8:49endorsement.
- 8:51Different terminology is used depending on what state
- 8:53you're working in.
- 8:55Let's talk about earning your degree.
- 8:57So what kind of impact has earning your degree made on your
- 9:02students?
- 9:04So, I think when it comes to earning this degree,
- 9:06it's allowed me to really adapt and be a flexible and
- 9:10accommodating educator.
- 9:12The experiences that I had and the hesitations I had when I
- 9:15was enrolling in NJCTL was,
- 9:18am I going to have the time to do this?
- 9:20Am I going to actually understand?
- 9:22And like I mentioned earlier,
- 9:24that's what I now bring to my students.
- 9:27They have a lot going on in their own lives,
- 9:29and they have these extracurriculars they're involved in
- 9:32after school.
- 9:33When our bell rings for the end of the day,
- 9:35they want to go and do those things.
- 9:37And I understand that because when I go home for the day,
- 9:40I want to go and do the things I want to do.
- 9:44So this master's program not only has helped me continue to
- 9:48accommodate and be flexible with my students,
- 9:51but it's also changed my whole perception on the approach I
- 9:54take with them.
- 9:55A big thing with NJCTL was hands-on activities in a virtual
- 9:59setting.
- 10:00I joined education as a teacher right as we went into
- 10:04lockdown in New Jersey.
- 10:05I wish I had this, you know, four years ago with me,
- 10:08but these online labs in math,
- 10:11I didn't know math could be fun before this,
- 10:14but there was all these different activities where you were
- 10:17using online manipulatives to engage with your students in
- 10:20my learning and now I've brought that to my students as
- 10:23well.
- 10:25It makes me want to go back and learn more about math, too.
- 10:29Mm-hmm, I agree.
- 10:31And now she's going on and going to be working on her
- 10:33science degree.
- 10:34Very exciting, Hannah.
- 10:36So Hannah,
- 10:37I know that we have a lot of early career educators that
- 10:41listen to this podcast,
- 10:43and they might have questions for you about your
- 10:45program. How can our listeners reach out to you with more questions?
- 10:51Currently, I'm online at LinkedIn.
- 10:53You can add me there.
- 10:55I'm also,
- 10:55I have an Instagram page that I just got up and running
- 10:58again.
- 10:58I took a break for a bit to focus on me and what I needed
- 11:03at the time.
- 11:03But I'm back online at M-S-H-C-U-R-R-A-N.
- 11:08That's on Instagram.
- 11:09If you need to connect with me that way, quick DM,
- 11:12I'm pretty responsive.
- 11:19Thank you, Hannah, for being our guest today.
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