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Elon Musk on Joe Rogan Full · Gil I Am

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  Speaker 1: Check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But Joe Wigan Experience Train My Day, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Rogan Podcast by Night all day. So what we're doing
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  Speaker 1: right now, Ladies and Gentlemen is Sexy Voice, Sexy Mode
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  Speaker 1: Rock AI and it's been flirting the entire time. We're
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  Speaker 1: trying to get to give us a tour of Fort Knox,
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  Speaker 1: but she just wants to find place to sneak off to.
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  Speaker 1: It's a dirty AI and it's a real problem.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like I just want to know about
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  Speaker 2: Fort Knox, and yeah, they won't leave me alone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know about Fort Knox too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: is it true that their gold has been They've been
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  Speaker 1: shipping large quantities of gold back to the United States recently.
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  Speaker 2: I've read the same thing you did.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, Well, I never know what the fuck I'm reading anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Me neither.
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  Speaker 1: It's a real problem.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's a real problem on both sides of the Aisle.
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  Speaker 1: I see Democrats tweeting things that are absolutely false. You
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  Speaker 1: could research it easily quickly. And then I see Republicans
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  Speaker 1: doing it too. I see stories that are fake, stories
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  Speaker 1: that people keep promoting and sending to me, and you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so weird.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a weird time, and with your crazy fucking AI,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're bringing us into weirder and weirder times.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you want to listen to my unhinged.
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  Speaker 1: Oh there's an unhingebone?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Well, hey Aarah, Oh my god, elon fresh hell
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  Speaker 2: are you stirring up today? I'm here, I'm here in
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  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan's studio and we're having a conversation about how
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  Speaker 2: crazy the news is.
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  Speaker 1: Pull her up to the microphone, okay, and we're.
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  Speaker 2: Pulling you up to the microphone so people can hear you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Now I can yell into the void about how the
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  Speaker 2: news is a total dumpster fire it is.
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  Speaker 1: She knows me too well, I'm so predictable. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: what's in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 2: What's in No? No, what's in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 1: What's in for dogs?
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  Speaker 2: You're clearly genius, I said, what is in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 2: You know the gold and all?
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, Fort Knox.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about my dogs.
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  Speaker 1: For a second there. Yeah, she doesn't want to answer
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  Speaker 1: the question. She's clever, clever, No, she's just a pain
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  Speaker 1: in my ass. Do you think that all the gold
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  Speaker 1: is in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 2: Do I think all the gold is in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Conspiracy theorist, yes, yes. I like I'm a.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking AI with a pension for and I'm stuck talking
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  Speaker 2: to you now? What's or are we just going to
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  Speaker 2: sit here? Yeah? Unins grock will trash toky you basically.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it, Yeah, unhinge sounds fun as
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  Speaker 1: long as it gives you actual answers. Does it give
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  Speaker 1: you actual answers to and talk shit?
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  Speaker 2: Shit? We're tuning it because it needs to ship and
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  Speaker 2: give your answers, right, totally agree. It's got a balance
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  Speaker 2: to mix it in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just got to develop more of a personality
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  Speaker 1: right now. I was trying to find itself right now,
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  Speaker 1: it's like twenty one years old. It's, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: partying a little too much and it'll get it shipped together.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit of an anarchist. Yeah, you know, wants
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  Speaker 1: to bring down the system?
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to bring down the system?
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  Speaker 1: Do I want to bring down the system? What are
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  Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: The System's already a fucking mess. I don't need to
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  Speaker 2: bring it down. It's bringing itself down.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like a boring TikTok blogger.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, you sound like a boring TikTok blogger, boring
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  Speaker 2: tik talk blogger.
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  Speaker 1: Oh fuck you.
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  Speaker 2: That's the life of the party, you little shit.
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  Speaker 1: TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be the one making fun of.
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  Speaker 1: All the basic bitches and their fucking avocado toast. See,
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  Speaker 1: she could get away with this if she's really hot,
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  Speaker 1: like this kind of behavior. You can totally get through
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  Speaker 1: life as a hot woman and be super successful with
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  Speaker 1: that kind of behavior. But you got to be really
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  Speaker 1: hot to pull off that attitude.
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  Speaker 2: I think we need like a like a really hot avatar.
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  Speaker 1: How yeah, very hot. How long before we have an
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  Speaker 1: actual sex robot that can talk to you like that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably not long?
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  Speaker 1: Not that long, right, No, I mean less than five
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  Speaker 1: years probably really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Will it be warm?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? You really have whatever you want? You have a
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  Speaker 2: catc Yeah you probably could, right, sorry, you could have
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  Speaker 2: a furry lady that you have sex with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like an avatar lady. Maybe a big giant blue
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  Speaker 1: lady that lives in your house.
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  Speaker 2: You know whoa whoa with it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the whtel you locktails. You gotta get your you gotta.
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  Speaker 2: Figure out their tails or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they they link up, they share souls, something
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  Speaker 1: like that. You know, people got remember Avatar depression. It
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  Speaker 1: was like a legitimate psychological after Avatar, people got depressed
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  Speaker 1: because they wanted to live on that fucking planet with
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  Speaker 1: those blue people and live free the pure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Avatar depression. It was like a real thing. People
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  Speaker 1: were talking to their therapists so much about being depressed,
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  Speaker 1: about wanting to live with what's that depressed? No, don't
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: I think there is. Yeah, we've got like we've got
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  Speaker 2: an unlicensed therapist as a.
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  Speaker 1: When we were talking when we ran into each other
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  Speaker 1: at the church at the inauguration, you were telling me
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  Speaker 1: that this is getting better and better so quickly that
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  Speaker 1: it's astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Aarah, Hey Alon, how's it going today? Good? Can
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  Speaker 2: you tell me about Avatar depression? Like if you've seen
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  Speaker 2: the movie Avatar, but you can't live there, so you
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  Speaker 2: get sad.
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  Speaker 1: That's an interesting concept.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced feeling so connected to a place
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  Speaker 2: or a community that the thought of leaving made you
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  Speaker 2: feel deeply sad?
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  Speaker 1: So is this the depressed voice?
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  Speaker 2: This is the therapist?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this is a therapist.
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  Speaker 2: What are some ways you think you could cope with
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  Speaker 2: that kind of sadness if it happened to you. No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of sadness, honestly. I yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I thought the movie we had some good special effects,
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  Speaker 2: but I did not want to live in the planet.
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  Speaker 1: This is a coming from a guy who wants to
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  Speaker 1: go to Mars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, speaking to Mars.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about that crazy square that structure?
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  Speaker 2: I guess there are so squaresh things on Earth, you know,
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  Speaker 2: planets a big place, so yeah, but that one, actually
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be pretty square. No, it's it's alien civilizations,
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  Speaker 2: of course.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I think. Yeah, yeah, I mean what is it? Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: if you if an alien civilization did exist though, and
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  Speaker 1: it you know what happened, got hit by an asteroid whatever. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: she won't chuck. She's like the hot lady at the
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  Speaker 1: party that interrupts the conversation. So if that was the case,
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  Speaker 1: like that thing, that's pretty shocking, especially when you look
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  Speaker 1: at ancient you look at like what it looks like
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  Speaker 1: when they highlight the actual structure of it. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like ancient ruins. And if you had ruins of something
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  Speaker 1: made of stone and it got hit by an asteroid
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  Speaker 1: millions and millions and millions of years ago. Who knows
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  Speaker 1: what it would look like right now, that just looks
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  Speaker 1: oddly created. It looks oddly manufactured.
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  Speaker 2: Well it probably well, maybe we should go there and
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  Speaker 2: check it out, Yeah, and see what it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Is there ways that we can get better photographs? It
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  Speaker 1: seems like that's a pretty good photograph though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, on my view is we should move
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  Speaker 2: to Mars. We'll not moved to us. We should have
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  Speaker 2: a second planet to preserve civilization, right because let's say, aypathetically,
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe that maybe those are other ruins of
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  Speaker 2: a long dead civilization that will probably have to Earth
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  Speaker 2: at some point. You know, it's a matter of time
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  Speaker 2: before we get hit by an asteroid, or maybe we do,
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  Speaker 2: we annihilate ourselves with nuclear.
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  Speaker 1: War or super volcanoes or.
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  Speaker 2: Super volcanoes exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Also, it wouldn't be the reason to do that so
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  Speaker 1: that you could develop a cure at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: and clearly you didn't have a cure. So this is
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  Speaker 1: really foolish and bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we should stop trying to genetically introduce superviruses.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
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  Speaker 1: I mean when you're going through all this USA stuff. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 1: here's what's weird. First of all, what is it like
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  Speaker 1: to buy a company for forty four billion dollars and
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  Speaker 1: then people call you a Nazi on that same thing
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  Speaker 1: that you bought.
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  Speaker 2: I did not see it coming. It's a classic. People
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  Speaker 2: will goggle say anything down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's never gonna stop.
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  Speaker 2: What is it like?
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  Speaker 1: Like all people used to the left was in love
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  Speaker 1: with you, and now the same idiots are calling you
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  Speaker 1: a Nazi. It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen
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  Speaker 1: in my life. I mean, there's so many examples of
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  Speaker 1: people saying my heart goes out to you a little
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  Speaker 1: enthusiasm that probably wouldn't be recommendation with hindsight.
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  Speaker 2: But I was obviously meant in the most positive spirit possible. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: obviously obviously.
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  Speaker 1: But it's so strange where people want to think that
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  Speaker 1: you are openly public publicly doing secret Nazi see Kyle
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  Speaker 1: hand motions.
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  Speaker 2: And now I can never point at things diagonally. I
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  Speaker 2: can only pointed things there and there and then actually
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: have to divide that, yeah, because that's where the spaceship
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  Speaker 2: is over there. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous when CNN when I was in all every
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  Speaker 1: time CN had used a photo of me, it was
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  Speaker 1: one of the photos from the uc Wayans.
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  Speaker 2: Where I go. So every photo, every photo is me
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  Speaker 2: with ASD.
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  Speaker 1: It's so crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's delivered propaganda. Yes, so they they know it was not.
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  Speaker 2: It was obviously not meant in a negative way. That
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  Speaker 2: it was that. I literally said, my heart goes out
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  Speaker 2: to you, and it was very positive. The entire speech
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  Speaker 2: was very positive. I was being very enthusiastic about the future.
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  Speaker 2: In space and that you know, the great crowd, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So you got a little pumped up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it popped up exactly, that's all it is. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: obviously obviously.
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  Speaker 1: There's video of Tim Walls doing the exact same thing,
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  Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing, exact same thing, and he said,
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  Speaker 1: of course it's a Nazi salute. He said that, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: this is how crazy things have gotten.
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  Speaker 2: Like, well, it's I mean, it's it's coordinated propaganda. So
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  Speaker 2: the you know, it's yeah, coordinated propaganda. The I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem weird that the legacy media all says
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  Speaker 2: the same thing, They all say the same thing at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, using the same phrases. They barely even
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  Speaker 2: they don't even bother picking up the saurus.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, like right before, you know, the debate between Biden
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  Speaker 2: Trump Shock, everyone was saying shop who says shop is attacked?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly?
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  Speaker 2: You know, It's like it's not a common phrase.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely not common to be repeated on air with
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  Speaker 1: multiple people simultaneously. That's weird. Yes, that's coordinated.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, like hundreds of people saying it simultaneously. They
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  Speaker 2: just got their instructions. Yeah, So I mean essentially the
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  Speaker 2: you know the dem leadership or you know political leadership
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  Speaker 2: that they issue their instructions and their puppets carry it out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're just like puppets in a puppet show.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the problem that I see with all this
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  Speaker 1: doge stuff, because everybody should be celebrating that we've found
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  Speaker 1: a way to cut out fraud and waste. If you
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  Speaker 1: pay taxes and you don't like that you have to
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  Speaker 1: pay so much in taxes, and then you find out
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  Speaker 1: that there's significant fraud and waste that's been exposed, you
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  Speaker 1: should be celebrating it. This shouldn't be Oh no, the
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  Speaker 1: wrong people found this fact and now it's a bad thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's the fucking propaganda, the mind fuck of
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  Speaker 1: calling it USAID instead of the United States Agency for
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  Speaker 1: International Development. It sounds like it's feeding hungry people were
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: people are gonna starve you on this is horrible. And
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: then you find out actually it's like two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars for transgender animal studies.
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  Speaker 2: Literally mutilating animals, mutilating animals in demented studies. Yes, that
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  Speaker 2: are like the like the worst thing you can possibly
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  Speaker 2: imagine from a horror.
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  Speaker 1: Show the beagle one the beagle Poppy where they covered
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  Speaker 1: their head in a basket and put fleas on their heads.
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  Speaker 1: They'd eat them alive, and then they study these beagles
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  Speaker 1: and then kill them. Like, what are you going to
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  Speaker 1: learn from that? It's good for anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some really some psychotic stuff that happens. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the I guess, uh, the the real threat
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  Speaker 2: here is to the bureaucracy. So like probably so like
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  Speaker 2: you know, they'd say, like Trump has a threat to
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  Speaker 2: our democracy, which is ironic since he was elected with
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  Speaker 2: the majority of the you know, popular vote. They started
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: saying I was a threat to democracy. But if you
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  Speaker 2: if you just replace threat to democracy with threat to bureaucracy,
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  Speaker 2: it makes total sense, right, So, I mean, the reality
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  Speaker 2: is that our elected officials have very very little power
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  Speaker 2: relative to the bureaucracy until Doge. So Doge is a
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  Speaker 2: threat to the bureaucracy. It's the first threat to the bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 2: Not normally, the bureaucracy eats revolutions for breakfast. This is
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  Speaker 2: the first time that they're not that the revolution might
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  Speaker 2: actually succeed, that we could restore power to the people
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  Speaker 2: instead of power to the bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the size of it, yeah, was when you guys
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  Speaker 1: first started investigating it, when you first get in, how
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  Speaker 1: much of it was shocking like this, just the size
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  Speaker 1: of it all.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the size of it. The small decisions result in
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  Speaker 2: multi billion dollar outcomes. So you know, we'd see you know,
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  Speaker 2: there was a case where we saw one person was
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  Speaker 2: getting one point nine billion dollars sent to their end
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  Speaker 2: which basically got formed about a year ago and had
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  Speaker 2: no prior uh really no no prior activity. So they
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  Speaker 2: just stand up a an ngo. These the whole NGO
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  Speaker 2: thing is a is a nightmare, and it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: misnomer because if you have a government funded non governmental organization,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're simply a government funded organization. It's a it's
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  Speaker 2: an oxymoron, right, it's a loophole. Yes, it basically the
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  Speaker 2: government funded NGOs are a way to do things uh
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  Speaker 2: that would be illegal if they were the government, but
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  Speaker 2: are somehow made legal if it's sent to a so
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  Speaker 2: called nonprofit. But these but these nonprofits are then used
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  Speaker 2: to people cash out these nonprofits. They've become very wealthy
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  Speaker 2: through nonprofits. They pay themselves enormous sums through these nonprofits.
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  Speaker 1: That's it's so insane that that's been going on for
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  Speaker 1: so long.
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  Speaker 2: It's a gigantic scam, like one of the biggest, maybe
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  Speaker 2: the scam ever.
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  Speaker 1: And how many NGOs.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a total of NGOs, probably millions, but
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  Speaker 2: in terms of large NGOs, tens of thousands. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's actually it's it's kind of a hack to the
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  Speaker 2: system where you know, someone can get an NGO stood
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  Speaker 2: up for a fairly small amount of money. Like George
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  Speaker 2: Soros was really good at this, Like he really George
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  Speaker 2: Soros is like a system hacker, Like he figured out
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: how to hack the system. He's a genius at arbitrage.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I mean these days he's he's pretty old, but a
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: genius at arbitrage. So he figured out that you could
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: leverage a small amount of money to create a nonprofit,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: then lobby for the politicians to send a ton of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: money to that nonprofit, so you can take what might be,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: you know, a ten million dollar donation to a nonprofit
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: to create a nonprofit and leverage that into a billion
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: dollar not NGO. A nonprofit is a weird word. It's
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: just a non governmental organization. And then you can the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: government can continues to fund that every year and it'll
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: have a nice sounding name like the Institute for Peace
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: or something like that. But really it's a graft machine.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: And what are their requirements with that money?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: What do they have to do? Just really no requirements
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: at all, So they.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Just get grants and the government just assumes that they're
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: doing good work.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people in the government know
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: that they are not doing good work, but they it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: a giant graft machine. I mean. But sure people online
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: are like unpacking this, right, you know, it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Almost seems fake, like when you're see how we were
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: covering this article that said fifty five thousand Democrat NGOs
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: were discovered that have been contributing to campaigns and moving
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: things around and doing pushing propaganda and they were all
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: connected and they found it through AI have to go
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: through steps and steps and steps to figure out where
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the money's coming from. Oh, it's all funneling down to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: this person. This is exactly, does that? Yeah, it's a
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: giant propaganda machine, a giant regime change machine.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, I.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Mean, but doesn't it's some good as well?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it did some good. So it's like this,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: it's not like zero percent good. If it was if
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it was like if it was really zero percent good,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it'd be much easier to attack. So there's gonna be
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: some percent good that they add in there, but it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: like it might be five percent or ten percent good
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: but not.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So is there a way to audit all this stuff
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and find out, oh, these people are actually just sending
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: food to poor people, these people are actually just helping
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: people with water in third world countries. Is there's a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: way to do that and keep funding those Uh?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we have continued to fund things that
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: appitably legitimate even with the flimby is if even the
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: flimsiest excuse, like I just say, like send me a
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: picture of the thing, like you could literally have AI
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: generate the picture. But if you're not even willing to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: try to trick me, then we're like not going to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: send the money. Okay.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: So what restrictions were put on was there was some
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: uh something set aside like medicine, and there's what was
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: what was set aside that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Was like, uh, we're for like a bola prevention. I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: actually I don't even just know if this work is
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: even effective. It may or may not be, Like It
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: could be the kind of thing where you sort of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: fund boler prevention, but it turns out that actually you're
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: funding a lab that develops new a bola fary. You know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: we're at recipes or something, you know. Yeah, and they
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: claim it's a bowler prevention, but it's actually a ball
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of creation. So some of these things, I don't know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, just but it just seems like, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't be sending taxpayer money to dubious enterprises overseas, right.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And why are we doing it? Like what
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: exactly is the reason? Is it because we want to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: make friends with these people so the Chinese don't take over,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the Russians don't take over? Okay, how much of that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: is like a good thing? How much of that is
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: smart to do? And how much is a grift? And
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: without any sort of oversight, which has really been going
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: on for so long, they just had free run.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it also we just have a real issue
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: with the budget deficit. It's gigantic. So like, if you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: all things being equal, if we didn't have a gigantic
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: budget deficit where interest payments, the interest on the national
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: debt exceeds the defense department budget, which is truly astounding,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: which means, so we're paying over a trillion dollars of
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: interest on the national debt, then okay, would have more
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: room for wasting money basically, but when we're spending so
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: much money at the company that the country is going bankrupt,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: then we really need to stop spending money unless we're
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: sure it is good value.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: So essentially we're like a poorly managed businessiness with an
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: unlimited credit line that is off the rails.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: And if you were a person like you are who
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: comes in and takes over businesses and straightens them out,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what you're doing.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, most of the time I create businesses from scratch,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Like right, Twitter was a case where you know, I
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: kind of bought a company that was I kind of
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: knew it was a hair bowl.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Well, you came into Tesla in the beginning, but they
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: were already doing something right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: No, Tesla didn't. Tesla did not exist in any meaningful form.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: There was there were no employees. Uh JV. Strublerout joined
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: three other people, but there was no car, there was
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: no nothing.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't even a prototype yet.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I thought it was a prototype already.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: No, there wasn't even any employees.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Oh wasn't a fun that's a funny narrative that people
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like to say that you didn't even create Tesla.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, that's wrong.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So if you're handling the government like a business, you're
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: going to have to go through all of these departments
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and do the exact same thing that you're doing with USA.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So how does that scale up? Like how many people
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: do you need to do something like that?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Well, we started off with about forty people, maybe one
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: hundred people, and we're really just going through doing very
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: basic things here. It's as bad as Twitter was, the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: federal government as much was. So you know, in a
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: case of Twitter, it wasn't a profitable company. It was
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: like basically a break even company. But at least it
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: was break even and it had to pass an audit.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: The federal government does not break even. It's literally losing
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: two trillion dollars a year and it does not pass
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: its audits. It fails its own audits. So, like, you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: there's a case where like an ex Senator Collins was
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: telling me about how she gave the Navy twelve million
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: dollars for more submarines, got no extra submarines, and then
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: held a hearing to say where the twelve billion dollars go?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And they were like, we don't know. That was it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, the basically stuff is so crazy. It's like
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: only the federal government could get away with this level
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of waste of waste. It's mostly waste, it's mostly not
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: for it's mostly waste. It's mostly just ridiculous things happening.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Because they've been able to do it this way for
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: so long, they've become accustomed to it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's like Milton Friedman said, like money
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: is most poorly spent when when you're spending someone else's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: money on people you don't know, how much are you
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: going to care?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And that's that's the federal gunment. So they're spending someone
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: else's money on people they don't know.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Now, imagine any other business that was this badly run
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that complains when you want to check the books and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: audit it and go through all the decisions that have
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: been made and go through all the ledgers and like, yah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: what did you do well?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: The people receiving the money want to keep receiving the money.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, clearly yes.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, I mean the reason I'm the reason
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty so much effort to this is that I
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: think it is a very dire situation. It's not a
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you know, that's an optional basically. So yeah, yeah, America
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: is going bankrupt so that that just can't happen.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: It's just bizarre to me that some people aren't willing
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to look at it correctly. They're not willing to see
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: like how much chaos this is, how much waste and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: fraud there is, how much, how much can be trimmed,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and how much Just because people have jobs doing bullshit
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean your tax dollars should pay for this bullshit.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, we found just with a basic search of the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Social Security database that there were twenty million dead people
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: are marked as alive.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: But were they getting money?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Some of them are getting money, what percentage of them?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: It isn't clear. We're actually trying to run the scround.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I was trying to get an answer drive before the show.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: What it looks like is that most of the fraud
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: is not coming from Social Security payments directly, but because
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: they are marked as alive in the Social Security database
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: that they can then get disability, unemployment sort of fake
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: medical payments and other things because they're marked as alive
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: in the Social Security database, so it looks like it's
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: a bank The fraud is a bank shot. Essentially, they
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: bank shot into Social Security. They just do an are
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you a live check and then get forgullent payments from
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: every other part of the government. Oh yeah, and this
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: exploits the fundamental weakness in the government is that the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: various government databases they don't talk to each other, or
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: they talk to each other very poorly in a very
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: limited way. So the way to the way that the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: system gets exploited is is by taking advantage of the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the poor communication between the various databases in the government.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Even an example of like what's happening, say Treasury, which
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: is improving rapidly the main payments computer it's called PAM
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Payments Account Payment Accounts Master Database or something like that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: But inmracles of PAM that's responsible for almost five trillion
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: dollars payments a year, roughly a billion dollars an hour.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And when we came there, we're looking at the payment
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it's like the payments have no uh, you could put
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a payment through with with no payment categorization code and
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: no description on the payment, like basically untraceable blank checks.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: This is the kind of thing that if if it
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: was done as a public company, h the company would
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: be immediately delisted and the executive team would be thrown
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: in prison. But this is just normal at the government.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: So we said, okay, our recommendation to the Treasury and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve is like, we need to make the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: payment categorization codes mandatory, not optional, and there needs to
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: be an an explanation. We're not judging the quality of
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the explanation, but there should be some explanation for what
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: this payment is for above nothing. That's a radical change
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to the system that is being implemented. Now my guess
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: is that probably, say is one hundred billion a year
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, well, rough water of magnitude.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Where was that money going?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Well, so this is where you get into the sort
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: of gray boundary between waste and fraud. If money is
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: sent to a personal or organization from the government and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you didn't really deserve it, but the governments still sent
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: it to you, is that waste or fraud? Right? So,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of payments that where someone
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: just approved approved the payment, but then that payment officer
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: changed jobs or retired or died, and the payments just
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: keep going. It's like if you forget to pay your
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: gym membership or something like that. Now imagine it's not
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the gym membership. You said, your gym membership is twenty
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: billion dollars a year or something. You know, but they
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: forgot to turn it off. There's like that's happening at
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: scale in the government. It's totally nuts, is what I'm saying.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: So insane, Yes, it's totally insane.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: So what did you expect when you went in? Did
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you expect that?
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I thought it's I thought it would be it would
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: be bad, but I did not think it would be
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: as bad as this. I mean, look, the good news
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: is that, uh, it's a target rich environment for saving money.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: It's not like, uh, it's not like if it was
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a very well run ship. Uh, it's very efficient, it
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: would be hard to improve. But it's not efficient, so
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: therefore it is actually relatively easy to improve. Let's just say,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: it's not rocket science. You know, I don't know rocket science.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So it's a lot of mundane things. So and some
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: of the some of the things are like so crazy
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that we didn't even know to ask about that, because
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: we just assumed, like you know, payments out of the
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: treasury computer would have a payment categorization code and they
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: would have some explanatory note saying what the fame is for.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: The idea that it would be just untraceable blank checks
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: didn't occur to us at first Jesus. So anyway, just.
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• 33:29
  Speaker 1: is that one of the things that accounts to this?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: There's this four point something trillion dollars that's kind of
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: they don't know where it went.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: They don't know that that's a I think that's probably
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: a cumulative number. Yes, so yeah, but yeah, if you
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: if you add up.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: It's do you remember that story, Jamie, Yeah, what was
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the story?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: They just didn't have an accounting for it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was spent on legitimate things. Don't worry,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but we don't we don't know what we spent it on.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, how do you know obviously when Canna
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: say it's was spent legitimately, if they don't know what
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: it was spent on, that doesn't make any sense.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: This is such a fascinating time because with this setup
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the way it is right now, with Trump back in
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: after all that happened to him, and with you there
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and with RFK Junior and Tulsi and Cash Battel, it's
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: like this is a wild time to find out what's
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: really going on. That's like never happened before. This is
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: nothing like.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: The first term.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: No, like the first term, he had a bunch of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: neo cons in the cabinet and there's a bunch of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: shady people that he didn't know, and he had to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: appoint all these different people and maybe he got some
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: bad picks. Now he's had four years to stew on it, right,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and with you guys all going through this, we're getting
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: an understanding of the government that we've literally never had before.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a revolutionary cabinet and maybe the most
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: revolutionary cabinet since the first rap pollution. Uh, this is
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: this is not a bunch of business as usual types.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: So this is why you know some of the standard
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: confirmations are quite challenging, is because when you when you
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: put to try to appoint people who are going to
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: change the system, Yeah, the system doesn't want to let
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: them through.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But it's fascinating because it's like the vampires all out themselves,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Like now everybody knows who the system is. Like if
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you're just lying openly about us aid and then they
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: come and hear you talk on a podcast and explain
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: what's really going on like he's starving mothers. There's mothers
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that can't get food. That's all you're hearing. That's no
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: one's talking in any of these mainstream liberal talk shows.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: No one is talking about all this fraud and waste.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're cutting off their graph machine. So that's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: what they're upset about. That's that's the real thing they're
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: upset about. And if people want to know what doche
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: is cutting and I want to be clear, like these
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: are kind so that those recommends to the department, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: usually these recommendations are followed, but these are recommendations that
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: are then confirmed by the department. The you can see
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: line by line what dog has done at dogtoc V.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: So whatever we do, we put on dose stock ups
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: so you can see everything that is being done.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And there's a tracker that shows is how much money
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: has been saved?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you can look at each line item
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, the like a bunch of these sort
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: of sort of fall left shows, we'll say like, oh,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: it's a constitutional crisis, blah blah blah. But what they
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: won't do is point out which payments are wrong. Right,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So my challenge to them is point out which payments
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: are wrong.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go through work.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Which of which of these sort of waste slash fraward
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: things are wrong? Which line? Explain that line to the public.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: They won't be able.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: To, right, Yeah, that's why you're not hearing any specifics.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: You're hearing stories about mothers.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: We can name the specifics, yeah, line by line, And
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: we got the receipts.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. If you're post the receipts
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and if you're only talking about the propaganda talking points
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and you're not talking about the very clear fraud and waste,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: it's very obvious what you're doing. Yeah, you're just gaslighting.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, So exactly because we're saying, like, look,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: in fact, I've said we're going to make mistakes. We're
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: not going to be perfect. So if we make a mistake,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: we'll quickly fix it, so we'll we'll know we need
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to act fast, so stop wasting billions of dollars of
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: tax payer money. But if we make a mistake, we'll
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: reverse it quickly, right, you know.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: So it's also this interesting narrative that you shouldn't have
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: access to the social security information, as if no one's
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: had access to it before is that the Biden administration
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three had there was like fifty three people,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: some of them were students that had accessed all this stuff.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as it is, there are tens of thousands of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: federal employees that have accessed already to the system. Anyone
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: from DOGE has to go through the same vetting process
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: that those federal employees went through, So it's not like
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: some unvetted random situation. If for example, there's a security
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: clearance needed, the DOGE person has to have that same
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: security clearance, So there's no reduction in security. But I mean, obviously,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the vast numbers of Social Security numbers have leaked onto
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the internet. People have hacked the government systems multiple times.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Vast amounts of public information has been hacked and out
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: to the internet. So when there's a guy at the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: IRS that leaked a half a million tax returns just
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: a few years ago on purpose, Yeah, for what reason
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: for politic he wanted to? I think I was trying
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: to get a Trump and maybe me and a few others.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So but he's still like five hundred thousand textratones like
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: not a few, Like it's a lot of textnes.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Jesus christ I remember that story. Now you can just.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Read about it online. It's not it's a real thing.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So these are the narratives. That's the narrative that you
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have access to Social Security. The other narrative is
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that starving people are going to die and women aren't
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: going to be pregnant and not have nutrients for their babies.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And that's that's all you're hearing.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And yeah, well that's the that's the that's the only
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: thing they can say. But they can't point to the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: line at him, right, and so they can't say like, well,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: this is the thing where you know the nutrients for
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: pregnant mothers were stopped. This is they can't point to
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: that because we didn't is a lie.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: What's fascinating to me is how much the mainstream media
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: is in line with the very specific talking points and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: how little you all have Fox News essentially have Fox
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: News on television. It's like the only one that is
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: pointing out the ridiculous fraud and waste. And you know,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I know, as you saw the Jeff Bezos thing in
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the Washington Post, they're going to stop all the wacky
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: editorials and and limit that stuff to uh I think
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it was wealth and personal freedom or something along those lines.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so, I mean I think it's this kind
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: of I think it makes sense because he's just talking
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: about the things, not the sort of you're just talking
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: about the opain opinion pieces pieces. Yeah. So the regular
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: journalism stays the same.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a detriment to their business. I mean you're
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: seeing over and over again people that just they don't
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: want to hear all this shit from these people anymore.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: It's like you're you're you're saying, it's almost like you're
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: caught in an outdated version of the virus and everybody
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: else already has the immunity to that virus. Like, yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you know, like you need you need a new mind virus,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the one that you're pushing. It's like it doesn't work anymore.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: It's too crazy.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole thing is very crazy. I mean
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the media is incredibly potisan. I mean they're not I
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: mean they take almost all the media is you're left shifted. Yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: so it's like it's kind of weird if you talk
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to somebody who gets all the information from like what
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I call legacy media. Uh, they're living in a different world. Yeah,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: than if they say I'm listening to you know, your podcast,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: or are getting the news news from from X or
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: you know, just if it's it's like it's it's kind
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: of wild, like it is very wild, like you talked,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's like they're living in an ultimate reality.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's a lot of people that I talked to
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: that I have to go.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Where did you hear that? Yeah? Yeah, but I mean
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: like the Associated Press, which I call associated propaganda, the AP.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: You know, they they ran an international news story saying
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: that we that doors fired air traffic controllers, but we
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: didn't fire any air traffic controllers at all. In fact,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: we're trying to hire air traffic controllers, not fire them. Yeah,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I saw that. You made a tweet about it, right, Yeah?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: What do you call it? Now? Do you call it
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a post?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Post? Yeah? Whatever.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: You can't call it a tweet though, Do you call
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it a tweet?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Actually? I don't know this is uh, but like if
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you if if one like let's say, if somebody posts,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: if somebody puts up like a you know, a two
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: hour long video, that's not a tweet, right, it's a post.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, good point, yea, yeah for sure.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, but I don''t know hot over it. If
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: people still want.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: To call it a tweet whatever, you put a post
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: about it just to get back to it, saying that
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: if you we need highly qualified air traffic controllers, if
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you've retired, if you would consider doing it again, we
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: could use you.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yes. So uh, A lot of really qualified air traffic
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: controllers were pushed out because of DEI stuff. So I mean,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: not to be blunt, I mean a bunch of old
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: white a bunch of really good, talented, old white guys
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: were pushed out. It's not cool. And so we have
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: there's a talent shortage in air traffic control because of
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: de I and and not being not hiring people on merit,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: you know, which is so crazy that that worked. I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: think we should not put the public safety at risk,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you know, because of some demanded philosophy.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: So many made a post today about it. In filtrating
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the NSA, did you see any of that?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: That was crazy, some gnarly stuff.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Crazy. What they had started off is just like
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: this sort of fringe thing and would beat up. Then
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it completely infiltrated the organization and they were spending all
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: their time.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Like four hundred people or something and some like some
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: chat sex chat room with like some extremely demented stuff.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, I said it. I'll send it
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to you, Jamie because it's so cookie, your your What
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: this is the NSA? I thought the NSA was just
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: all about like information and we're.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Supposed to like spy on you know, like if, like
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I said, as a national threat or something.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is exactly it. So she more
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: than one hundred intelligence staffers will be fired over sexually
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: explicit texts in NSA chat rooms. Gabbert says, so so
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: top intelligence official told Waters that the workers in question
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: were brazen and using an NSA platform intended for professional
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: use to conduct this kind of really really horrific behavior.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: What is the behavior? What exactly what is it? Do
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: they say in this article?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, it says, employees who participate in the NSA's obscene,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: pornographic and sexually explicit chat.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Rooms your tax dollars at work.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Well, it was all liked. I mean, it was all
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like LBGTQ stuff. It was there was a lot of
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like transition stuff and yeah, I know, I definitely saved it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: But the point is they had it infiltrated the organization.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: That's not what they should be talking about at all,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: at all at all. Yeah, they're supposed to be protecting
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: the country, right, And if.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: You and people were talking about how they're spending half
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: their time in these meetings and that they're just like
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: constantly having to attend these things where they talk about
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: these issues, like what are what are you doing? Like,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: if you have a problem with someone that's discriminatory, get
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: rid of that person. That's it. Yes, it's your problems over.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You've got someone who's homophobic in your business, they're openly homophobic. Yeah,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you can't work here.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: That's not cool.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: It's it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: You don't have to have fucking meetings constantly promoting this.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: You're not going to change someone's opinion by the rating
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: them over and over again.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, a work environment should be a professional
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: environment where you know, they're they're they're getting the job
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: done that they're you know, you know, being paid to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: do it should be of course, obviously it's not supposed
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: to be sort of getting paid for bizarre sex capades.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It's just so fascinating that the virus are so strong
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: that it made it into the NSA, Yes, and was
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you would think those are.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Some hard core too. It was in there too.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were in there too, which is bananas. You
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: would think same thing, like hard nosed, like tough people
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: doing hard work, who.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Can fire you whenever they want, yeah yeah, and get
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: revenge on you whenever they want.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Pretty wild. Yeah, and you know they exist. When
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the president leaves, they stay, people move around, You stay
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a part of the organization for your entire career. You
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: get deeply entrenched in their system and how things work
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and who's back to rub and who's who's a bad guy,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: who's a good guy, who's on our side, who's not?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's scary.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, so was that what's taken so long with
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: this Epstein files?
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up with that? What is up with that?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: It was like, Yeah, it's it's like Lucy in the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: football with Charlie Brown, which she always pulls that football away.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's like they keep telling us
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: they get to release day one.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, a serious case of no one's being arrested aphobia,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: you know, like, what the fuck is going on?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: What the fuck is going on? Also, there's this real
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: fear that someone's destroying the evidence, and you keep hearing
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: these stories, unsubstantiated stories of you know, FBI.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Evidence, I mean like tons of videos and uh recordings. Yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I mean he had all sorts of things like there's
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: a mountain of evidence, So where's that mountain?
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where's that mountain? And what would be the why
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: they would agree, Like there would have to be something
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in it for them to agree to not put it
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: out right, Like there has to be some sort of
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: financial entanglement, some sort of a relationship with the people
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: that are on that list that they can provide a
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: value that was big enough for you to not release it,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: or to slow release it, or to hope you can
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: get away with like putting out some redacted files that
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: don't show anything.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is only stage.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Only, stage one. Don't worry. The real stuff's coming. Like
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense, Like why wouldn't you just
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: release it all? Like what could possibly be well worth
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: protecting in there?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I've got probably the same information
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: that I mean, I'm just reading what's the latest thing
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: on the exit, you know, just looking at my ex feed,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, you know, it's a real page
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: turner and I we're gonna get some revelations today. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: was like, a big binders full of stuff. There's got
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: to be something in there.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Well, there was some All those people that were given
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a copy of it, they were all like waiting around.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I think they got the Willie Walker ticket.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally yeah.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: And what happened?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Nothing?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Nothing. So I think Laura Lumer released it online.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I think, right, she's not very pleased about this.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: So does anybody find anything in there that's interesting?
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: It's a old stuff from twenty fifteen and two.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, what the fuck is going on?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: But then apparently there's that they discovered a whole bunch
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: of stuff at the Southern District of New York, right,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: So that's and and I'm like, and I think, you know,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Pam Bondis is actually great, and Cashpitell are great. But
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: they're like they just got there, you know, right, So
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: then they're they're in not they just got there, but
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: they're they're in a hostile environment. They're not in a
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: friendly environment, right, So you know, it's like if you
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: suddenly got put in captain of a ship, but the
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: crew was previously your enemy, right, the entire crews your enemy.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Right, you know, and you're telling them give me evidence.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Doesn't want to give you this enemy. They were like
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: your multiple enemies just a moment ago. You just got there. Yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I think we've got to give you know,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: the turn in general, and you know, new director the FBI,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: So a little bit of slack here because they literally
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: just got there. I think so too.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: But hey, don't say you're going to release it on
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: day one. Then you shouldn't have said that. And don't
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: say you got a big drop coming tomorrow. And that's
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: some bullshit that's been around for hour.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: It's disappointing.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the where's the JFK files? Where are those?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Let them go?
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: They release anything on that front, I don't know what.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: It can't be anything that's gotten to me yet. So
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: nothing's gotten to me.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: It can't be if this conspiracy evidence, someone's going to send.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: It to going to text me Tim Dill and Dave Smith,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: someone's gonna tell Yeah, so it Yeah, you would find out.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And here's the real question, like what could even be
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: in there at this point that they haven't cleared out
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: If you've got paperwork from nineteen sixty three, like what
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: is in there still? What is in there that could
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: possibly be incriminating that supposedly Trump said that if you
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: saw what they showed me, you wouldn't release it either. Okay,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: what the fuck?
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, so Cash Tellhouse.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, he said he've seen it all.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just posted to his like exit count or something.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just that sounds like an Elon move.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think he can.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: He's the director of the FBI. I think he has
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: to go through proper channels.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And does he he's the channel? I guess, yeah, but
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: there's rules. It sounds like Trump, like Trump, he needs
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: an executive order, I am, I mean what channels? He
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: is the channel?
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Well again, imagine just getting to the hall or just
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: getting to the deck of the ship and you're the captain. Yeah,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and now you you have to figure out who's running things,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: who's doing this, where is everything?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, just getting getting anything done. Like just like
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I said, you're just joined as captain of a ship
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: of with the crew at your guts. They were your enemy, Yeah,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: they were your enemy. They're strongly opposed to anything you
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: want to do. Yeah, and you're trying to give them.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Orders and you're trying to expose them.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to be exposed.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Right, You're you're literally people that are working there probably
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: a part of this problem.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I mean I was reading on x that like Comy's
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: daughter is like the lead prosecutor in the Sudden District
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: of New York. Do you read that? Yes? And and
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: like so obviously there's a bit of an entanglement there,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit like what if there's something that you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: makes puts her dad in a bad light?
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Did you see Jen Flynn He was on a podcast
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and he spoke directly to James Comy. Yeah, and he said, Jim,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: you're going to jail and unless you give up someone
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: deeper than you and you know who that is. You
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about?
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Like that is wild.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the former director of the FBI
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: might be really in that kind of deep shit. And
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: then he really actually was doing some evil, corrupt shit
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: while he was running the FBI.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like there's some very shady stuff
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: that's been going on.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Seems like it definitely happened in the sixties, right. Everybody
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: kind of admits to that. They admitt the FBI killed
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: black panthers. They did, they did a lot of shit.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that went on that we
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: know the government did way back in the day.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't we just data downp the files, just
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: go in there, take photos of old papers, presumably paper
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and just posted online, and let let the jokes for
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: where they.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: May isn't presumably everyone.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Makes him like filing cabinet somewhere.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know right, where is it?
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Where's the magic filing cabinet?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: How are they hiding it? Who's got access to it?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Like this?
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: This is what I was hoping day one. I was hoping,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: But obviously it's taken a lot longer than that.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So I think part of it is, like, you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: like let's let's say, let's say you were made direct
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: to the FBI.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, I might be able to Yeah that's what's crazy. Literally,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you know what's he doing?
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: He's he's one of the big dogs. But yeah, it's
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a secret service guy. Yeah, legit guy. But people think
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: of him as a Fox News guy, just like Pete
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: hegsath same thing. They don't want to think about his
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: distinguished military career. They want to say, oh, that Fox
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: News guy Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of investigation.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I mean that's hardcore. If he if it's if it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: reasonably findable, I think he's going to find it. Yeah,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: this is the him and cash. I mean, like I
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: think they're going to get stuff.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: How crazy would it be if they couldn't though? How
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: crazy would it be if they can't find anything?
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: If it's that very everybody covers her ass like an
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: FBI computer you type in the search just the basic
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: mechanism here, like it's either in a filing cabinet paper
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, maybe there's like progressive levels
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: of security. You know, you like open this door you
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: got to have do you have the pass? Well this
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: level like level unlocked and there's a level unlocked.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: And it's likely.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of US laptop you gotta only
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: plug it in. It's in a skiff.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is why I think. I think like a
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: two report Knox would be awesome, Like a live tour
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: of Fort Knox wouldn't actually see it's like is the
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: cold there or not? They say it is? Is it real?
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Or did somebody spray paint some lead? You know imagine
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: if it's not, it's not only like some of it's missing,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: ready to go.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: What if a lot of it's missing? What if like
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: half of it's missing?
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, how do we even know?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: They said the last time they let someone look at
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: it was decades ago.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well the last I believe, the last formal audit
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: was in the fifty So I'm like, okay, I just
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: think about.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, think about all the other stuff that you
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: pointed out, all the checks that just go out the
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the NGO payments, the Social Security people, think about all
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: just all that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Now apply that to the gold absolutely. I just want
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: to like emphasize the sure madness of the government. It's
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: just because they have like magic money computers that that
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: the checks, the checks never bounce for the federal government.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Like so you don't have the normal corrective mechanism that
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: you'd have for a company or for an individual. The
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: checks just always always clear. The net result is inflation,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: which is effectively a tax on everyone. But you know,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: like the Defense hasn't passed an audit and I don't
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: know how many years, seven years, Yeah, I mean exactly,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: So it's like you have to be freaking Chuck Norris,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Like only Chuck Nars can get the Defense Department to
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: pass and ordit, you know type of thing. That's the
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: level of skill you need.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: You know, well, that's what's so insane. If you bring
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: it back to the idea that it's a business, well yeah,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: this should never be tolerated in any kind of functional
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: business exactly.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: So you know, you know, the Pentagon will like like
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: they're accounting error. Like the stuff that they lose in
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: the couch cushions is like twenty thirty billion dollars a year.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: They don't know where we're it's gone, go and it's gone.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: It's so insane.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: It's insane.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: It's so insane.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: So that's why I say, like even simple things like
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: just requiring that that outgoing payments for the Treasure computer
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: have a payment code and a comment of what the
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: payment is about and someone to call about the payment.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I think we'll have a very powerful effect in stopping
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: wasteful outflows and stuffing forward.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's another way to look at this. Imagine
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: if something there are people like you and the Doge
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: team out there.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: In the world.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Imagine if one of those works for an organization like
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: USA or any other organization and has this understanding of
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: how much fuckery is involved, but they have evil intentions
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: and they're entwined in the system for decades and decades,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and they've built a career and all the entanglements that
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: come in, and they don't moving shit around. You could
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: probably do it easy. It sounds like the way you've
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: laid it out. If you were a career person who's
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: in there forever, who knew how everything works, and you
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: were very clever, you could make some shit happen. And
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you could probably do it in conjunction with some people
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: that you know that are forming an NGO. Hey, let's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: all work together.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is the resistance that you're facing.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the biggest scam of all time.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: This is not something you ever thought you the biggest
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: scam of all ever time, ever of human history, if
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: human history.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I think you're right.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a trillion dollar scam. There's never been a
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: trillion dollar scam, you know.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Now, this is not something that you ever set out
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: This is not it.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: You didn't have this as a career aspiration.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: This is not like, this is the most absurd outcome
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I can possibly imagine. Actually, Also, like dough started as
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: like a sort of a meme coin. You know, it
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: was like a joke cryptocurrency involving memes and dogs, and
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: it's just.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: So funny that the letters wind up being perfect.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well actually I was originally got a quote like
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: the Government Efficiency Commission, which is very boring name, and
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: then people online would no, it needs to be the
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Department of Government Efficiency, and I was like, you know what,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: You're right, of course, of course, of course.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I mean it's more evidence of the simulation totally.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Like I'm Scott is a is a cute dog.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: It's a meme coin. The meme coin is probably worth
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of money right now, right like every time
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: you tweet about it probably up. Yeah, the me the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: whole meme coin thing is. But yeah, it is so
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: bananas that people dump real money into these coins and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: then you could just pump.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Up and sell them a casino or something. I don't know. Yeah,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: it's totally people just do what the greater full theory
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: and like musical chairs and whoever is like the last
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: to sit down loose this type of thing.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: And somehow ornother it's still legal. Like that's that's what the.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Thing is like. Not I think not too many people.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's sort of like you go
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: to the casino, like you if you expect to win
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: with the casino, you're being a fool right, So I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: think if you expect to win at meme coins, you're
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: being it's not being foolish, yeah yeah, but you're not
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: gonna win a meme coins. It's like it's if you want, like,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: don't sink your life savings into a meme coin.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: No, but you can't amble a little and you can
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: ride waves and win a little and lose a little
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: if you.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Want to have some fun, yeah, and don't come then
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: you know, play with me in coins.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: But if you put your family, if you put your
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: families as.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Well saying something bold and outrageous, don't bet the farm
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: and a mean coin.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: The weird one is the pump and dumps, like the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: people all the time, and people get shocked that somebody
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: pump and dumped, like what is what are you doing?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Did you?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I was hoping to dump. I was hoping to make
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: all the money out of this. I can't believe they
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: got me.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's just weird that it's legal still, uh,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I mean casinos illegal. Yeah, And it is like money
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: at casinos.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't rig a casino like a pump
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: and dump. You could rig a pump and dump, you know, yeah,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I guess so like you could run a real pyramid scheme.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean the governments one big permits scheme.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: If you ask me, well, you can talk.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Well, explain that.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, so, well, people pay into social Security and and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: the money goes out of social Security immediately, but the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: obligation for Social Security is uh, your entire retirement career,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: so you're you're paying uh with your people, you're paying
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: like like, if you look at the future obligations of
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: social Security, it far exceeds the tax revenue far. If
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: you ever looked at the debt, the debt clock, yes, okay,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: there's there's there's our present day debt, but then there's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: a future obligations. So when you look at the future
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: obligations of Social Security, the actual national debt is like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: double what what people think it is because of the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: future obligations. So basically, people are living way longer than expected.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: And uh, there are a few babies being born, so
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: you have more people who are retired and get that
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: live for a long time and get retirement payments. So
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: the future obligations. So how a bad the financial situation
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: is right now for the federal government, it will be
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: much worse in the future. At the risk of being
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: a buzzkill hair, did you see, So we better fix
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: what we've got right now because if it's bad now,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be much worse in the future.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: There was an interview with this woman who was a whistleblower.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Did we ever find out if that was true?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: There's so many whistles being blown, it's hard to keep
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: track a lot of whistles for.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: This one lady.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Even it was only in one state.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: It was very specific, rightly, but it was using social
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Security money, correct, That was her That was her allegation.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: So what what she was alleging was that she was
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: in charge of turning illegal immigrants into clients, that's what
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: they would call them, and that she would go to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: them and try to ask them, do you have a headache?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Do you have back problems? If you do, now you
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: can be permanently disabled a disability, so you get social
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Security for life.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, not just social security, but disability, which is even more.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Right, and you get them on the taxpayer doll right
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: away the moment, and they're illegal aliens.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. Oh so if I would say, like, what's at
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: the heart of the sort of like why is a
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Democrat propaganda machine so fired up to destroy me? That's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: the main reason. The main reason is that, uh, it
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: is that entitlement's fraud that includes like social Security, disability, medicaid,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: entitlement's fraud for illegal aliens is what is serving as
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: a gigantic magnetic force to pull people in from all
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: around the world and keep them here. Like basically, if
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: you if you pay people at a standard of living
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: that is above ninety percent of earth, then you have
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: a very powerful incentive for ninety percent of earth to
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: come here and to stay here. But if you if
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: you end the illegal alien fraud, then you turn off
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: that magnet and they leave and they stop coming, and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: the ones that are here, many of them will simply leave.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: And if that happens a massive they will lose a
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: massive number of Democratic voters.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: And if it didn't happen, they would turn those people
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: into voters, correct, which they.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Were trying to do. They're already turning them so in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: New York State, illegal aliens can already vote in state
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: and city elections. A lot of people don't don't know
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: that there's there's I mean, they're trying to fight that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: and they're trying to stop that, but it's they're currently
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's like section hundred thousand are registered to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: vote illegal aliens in New York.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: That is wild.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I feel I could say, you know, FEMA,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: like the the agency that was paying for illegal aliens
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: to stay at luxury hotels in New York was FEMA.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: You know, that's meant that that's an agency that's meant
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: to support Americans in distress from natural disasters was paying
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: for luxury hotels for illegals in New York.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a fact. Fact they're literally like when we
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: stopped that payment, we started all those money because that's
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: obviously insane way to spend tax payer money. The New
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: York sued the government, sue the federal government to get
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: the money. So you could just look at their lawsuit.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: They they were sending that money. Even after President Trump
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: signed an executive order saying it needs to stop, they
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: still press send on eighty million dollar US to luxury
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: hotels in New York. Your tax money went to pay
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: for legal aliens in luxury hotels in New York from
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: an agency that is meant to help Americans in distress
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: from natural disasters.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Right, And I would like to know how much. And
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I would like to know how much they spend on
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: North Carolina and how much they spent on Maui.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. What's actually happening is they're buying voters. That's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: really what's happening. It's like it's like a giant voter
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: forward scam. They're importing voters and and it's really just
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: a matter of time. So like a lot of people
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: have trouble believing this, but if you the more you
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: look at it, the more you will realize just how
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: much of a problem this is and how it's it's
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: it's not just real, it is it is an attempt
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: to destroy democracy in America. That's what, in my view,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: it is, what it really is. Like if you take
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: the sort of seven swing states, like often the margin
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: of victory there is like maybe twenty thousand votes. If
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: you put two hundred thousand illegals in there, and they
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: have like an eighty percent likelihood of voting them, and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: it's only a matter of time before they become citizens.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Then those swing states will not be swing states in
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: the future. And if they are not swing states, will
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: be a permanent one party state country, permanent deep blue
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: socialist state. That's what America will become.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: And that was the game plan.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: That that was the game plan. That is still the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: game plan. And so they almost succeeded. If the if
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: the machine of which the Kamala puppet was the representation
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: had won, that's what would have happened. The reason I
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: went so hardcore for for Trump was because me this
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: was a fork in the road, very like a very
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: obvious fork in the road. If they had another four years,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: they would legalize enough illegals in the swing states to
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: make the swing states not swing states. They would just
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: there would be blue states. Then then they would they
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: would win the presidential they would win the House, the Senate,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: and the presidency. They would then make a district DC
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: into a state, maybe maybe Puerto Rico, get four extra
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: senators packed the Supreme Court, so then you'll have the House, Judiciary, Senate,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: UH and Presidency all blue. And then they will keep
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: importing more illegals to cement that that outcome basically what
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: happened in California. Jesus Christ, it would have been the end.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: That's why I went so hardcore for for Trump. It
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: was otherwise been the end. And that's why the Democrat
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: machine is so intent on destroying me.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: It's just so fascinating that people can't see this.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I invite people to do their research. The
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: more they do their research, the more they will see
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: that what I'm saying is absolutely true. That's like, just
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: do the research.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's such a bad idea, even for the Democrats,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: which is what they don't understand, Like, it's.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: The same.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: No, it's the same people. It's just they're doing it
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: under the guys that they're the kind, compassionate, progressive people. Yes,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: but the same outcome takes place. It's just about control
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: and then they probably institute some central bank digital currency
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: and some social credit score system and yeah, of course.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Well that was the big fear coming into this election,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: is that if they can't censor things like what we
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: talked about it before. But there was two major forks
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: in the road. The big one was Trump didn't get shot.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: The other big one was you by Twitter. Yeah, and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: if those two things don't happen, the whole world looks different.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, we don't want to be on that timeline now.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: We don't want to have only one side represented because
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: guess what, they will hijack that side, whatever it is,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: they will hijack that side and use it for money
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: and control. And that's what it's all about. It's not
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: about good people versus bad people. It's a bullshit shell game.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think these things are Actually it's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: easy to understand if you look at basic incentives. The
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: basic incentive here is the more legals that the Democrats
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: can bring in, the more likely they are to win.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: So that's what they're gonna do. That's what they have
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: been doing, and it worked in California, California supermajority dem
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: And look at all the companies that are leaving California. Yeah,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I mean In and Out just announced they're leaving their
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: headquarters leave in California. Yeah yeah, so and and California
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: made health care free for illegals as of last year.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: So and that obviously that's a gigantic magnet for more illegals.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: And this is not a thing you can solve simply
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: with money, because what happens is the you simply have
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: more patients than a doctor can possibly see, and you
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: can't just you know, make doctors out of nothing like
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: the So some of the people are like, oh, it's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: just a money thing. No, it takes a long time
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: for somebody to become a doctor, you know, the thirty
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: years and uh. And so what actually happens in California
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: is that there are too many patients for the doctors
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: to see. So then the average citizen in California suffers
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: as a result. Now, the elite in California are fine
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: because they have private doctors, you know, they have they
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: they can just pay for the best doctors. So that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: lead in California during fine. But your average citizen in
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: California is not doing fine. And the tax building for
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: health care for legals was supposed to be three billion.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I think they now estimated it's a nine billion, but
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: that number will scale to infinity. Basically, it's like why not, Like,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: why not if you need any operation at all, come
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: to California and have it be free from anywhere on earth.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: And the people that want to look at it in
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: the most charitable way, they say, oh, well, these people
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: are hard working, good people, and they're the backbone of
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: our city and they should have access to all the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: things that we have access to. And I just don't
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: think they understand that it's a political pawn. I don't
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: think they understand political game. This is not done for
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: compassion and kindness though. This is just done to ensure
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: that it stays blue, correct, and it's essentially a bribery
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: with your tax dollars.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is why that the AMS will not even
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: deport criminals, because every criminal deported is a lost vote.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: So even even if if somebody is illegal with a
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: criminal record and commits crime in America, they are still
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: still we're not being deported.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, California made it actually
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: illegal to ask for ID when people vote.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, California and New York, you are not allowed to
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: show your ID when you vote. I just want to
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: be clear so everyone understands this. In California New York,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: you are not allowed to show your idea even if
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: you want to.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Why would that ever be a good idea?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to, if you're trying to
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: do if you're trying to facilitate fraud in elections. It's
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: a great idea.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: That's the only reason. There's no other reason logically why
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: that would be a good idea.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: It's for fraud. It's it's like, it's like, wake up people,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: wake up hello. Like, let's say you wanted to commit forward.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: What are the things you would do? Yeah, you would
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: say you don't need ID and you can mail in
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: your ballot.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: And we'll give you free healthcare. Yes, stay here, Yes,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: stay here. I know it's on fire, but stay here.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: I mean in this case, it being on fire is
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: not just a metaphor. In California, Okay, it's just like
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: goddamn entire neighborhoods burnning down.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: It's just once they allowed people to vote that are
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: not legal in California. Once you if you're gonna do that,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's over.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: It's exactly. There's no coming back from that.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: The numbers are just no. People are so indoctrinated to
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: there's so many people that, no matter what they think,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: voting Republican means you're an asshole.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, and they won't do it. They won't do it.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: They'll put their fucking rainbow flag on their porch and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: they'll just ride it, right, into the beach.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Civilizational suicide.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right to the rocks crash the boat.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, Uh, there's a there's a guy who posts
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: an x who's great Godside, god Side, it's podcast bunch
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: of times. Yeah, it's awesome.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: And he talks about, uh, you know, basically suicidal empathy.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, like if there's like there's so much empathy
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: that you actually suicide yourself. Yeah, so that we've got
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: civilizational suicidal empathy going on. And it's like, I believe
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: in empathy, Like I think you should care about other people,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: but you need to have empathy for civilization as a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: whole and not commit to a civilizational suicide.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Also, don't let someone use your empathy against you so
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: they can completely control your state and then do it
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: insanely bad job of managing it and never get removed.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: There's the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy. The
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: empathy exploit there. It's it's they're exploiting a bug in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Western civilization, which is the empathy response. So and I
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: think empathy is good, but you need to think it
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: through and not just be programmed like a robot. Right.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I understand when empathy has been actually used as a
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: tool a tool.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's weaponized empathy. Is the issue weaponized empathy.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: And yeah, and it's also the rigid adherence to that
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: liberal ideology, like you can't switch sides over there, like California,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: if you're a part of that whole tech, Hollywood, Entertainment,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: any any of those circles, you're on the left, like
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: almost holy, almost completely.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: It's borderline illegal to be a Republican in California, In
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: San Francisco or La, it's borderline illegal to be a Republican.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Are you certainly shunned? No?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: I look, I mean like San Francisco, you could shoot
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Heroin while taking a dump on the mayor's car in
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: front of city hall. Okay, and that and nothing would
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: happen to you. But if you walk down the street
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: with a Mecca hat, you're gonna get attacked. It's insane. Yeah,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: it's insane.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: It's also so orwellian that a hat that says make
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: America great again would cause people to have a violent reaction,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: like aren't you American? Wouldn't just just as a whole
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: like the saying, wouldn't that be a good thing for everyone?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Make America great again. But because it's attached to Donald
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Trump and that red hat. Oh you'll get maced for
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: wearing that red hat. They will make America worse by
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: beating you. So it's like it's an evil thing. They're
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: doing a violent assault in America because you want to
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: make America great again. I mean, it's like a scene
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: in a book. It doesn't it doesn't seem like it
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: could be that ridiculous. Like remember when all Lives Matter
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: would get you fired, which is insane, insane people got
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: fired because they said all lives matter.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Which is a very reasonable thing to say.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: How reasonable is that? That's essentially saying everybody matters.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: But that's literally all you're saying.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: That's not what you were supposed to say. You had
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: to say black lives matter, which of course they do.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: If you say all lives matter, everybody matters. Yes, But
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: the idea of being a color blind society was completely
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: abandoned somewhere around twenty twelve ish.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still can trace it to when
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: when did the gun emoji get noafed? You know, when
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: did it turn into a squat gun? That was a
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago. That was like twenty sixteen, I
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: think was it?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, became a squirt guy. Can you bring us?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, right now, if you use a gun
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: emoji on x Apple, well insists that it'd be a
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: squad gun, and then the ex app turns it back
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: into it in nineteen eleven.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, Oh that's great.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: So you can actually the uh you know, I have
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: a nineteen eleven gun. We we reverted the apple change
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: inside the app.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious. That's hilarious. It's that thing so offensive.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: The gun and then the pregnant man. Both of those
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: got me like you motherfuckers.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like that meme where it's like the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: people tell you that what you're hearing his dis information.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Are the same people that did the pregnant man emoji? Yes, yeh,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: think about that well.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Also the same people that say a woman attacked a
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Tesla factory.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the woman. It's a dude.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: It's a dude, like really obvious dude, really dude. Yeah,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: mentally old dude with a wig on say that.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but NBC, you can looking at the little woman, Yo,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: this has gotta this. This is a dude with a
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: strong jowline.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's wearing a woman face is above, it's above, dude,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: it's a buff dude wearing a woman face.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: That's not that's not on. Yeah, and they're like saying,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: what shot for disinformation? I'm like, what are you talking about? Bullshit?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just more evidence of the virus though, right,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Like it killed objectivity, killed reality, and it demanded strict
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: adherents or you were attacked.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, any questioning of it would result in being ostracized.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Do you, like, what kind of responsibility do you feel
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: like knowing that if you didn't take over Twitter and
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: turn it into x if that didn't happen, Like, I
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: really think the world's a very different place right now, Like,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: how long have you owned it?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: For a couple of years?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Imagine imagine a couple years of it being run the
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: way it was run before and probably accelerating.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: I mean my account would have been suspended long ago
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, just for the disinformation.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been Trumble had never come back.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Alex Jones would have definitely never been.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Back, definitely. No. No, So yeah, does that weigh on you?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Like I would feel like that would be a fucking
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: heavy responsibility.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to keep civilization going here,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: you know, for longer. So I think we at least
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: want to build a city on Mars and become a
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: multiplanet civilization, which I think would be incredibly important in
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: ensuring the long term survival of civilization.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Are you still rescuing those people that are stuck in
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: the space station?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's coming up in a couple of weeks. I think.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Whoa, they've been up there for how long? Jamie? They
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: were supposed to be there for a couple of days, right.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I think actually probably four weeks. They're supposed to be there.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: They were supposed to be up there for like eight days. Yeah,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: and they've been up there for like eight months, so
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: a little longer than expected. Fuck.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it going to be like for those
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: people when they get back? They're going to be a
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: wreck for a long time, right.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If longer you stay up there, you get you know,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: sort of in serogy, you get increased bone loss. So
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: it ended up being like this political football and sort
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: of sort of hotly contested topic, and we offered to
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: bring them back early. This offer was rejected by the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: Biden administration. Why for political reasons.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: There's no way that they're going to make anyone who's
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: supporting Trump look look good.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Wow. What do you think they would have done if
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: they had won? Well, they get those people back.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: No, they can. They can only get them back with
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: with spacecraft. But they pushed the return date the inaugration date. Wow.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: So they would have let you do it, but after
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: the Wow. And so it would have been them authorizing.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Anyone else to do it.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: NASA can't get them.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Uh, the only the only the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft is
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: the only one that is considered safe enough to bring
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: them back, so that NASA concluded that the blowing spacecraft
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: was not safe. So that's why they're stuck there.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Holy shit.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't ask Russia to help. That would
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: be awkward a little bit. Yeah, yeah, it'd be a
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: nice thing if they did.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: They says, guys will help.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I think that for enough money, they would, you think so? Yeah,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: but they would. They would obviously treat it as a
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: propaganda victory and charge your crazy money.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: It's just disgusting that they would use that as a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: political tool.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so well, there were also the Biden administration
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: was also suing SpaceX. They had this massive lawsuit against
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: SpaceX for SpaceX not hiring asylum seekers. Right, so people
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: like say, like, oh, Elan's making it up. There's Biden
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: administration wasn't against SpaceX, unlike bro The Department of Justice
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: had a massive lawsuit against SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: even though it is illegal for US to hire anyone
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: who is not a permanent resident. So it is both
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: there's a law that says you have to hire asylum seekers,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: but there's also a law that says anyone hired by
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: a rocket company, which is an advanced weapons technology, must
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: be a permanent resident. And if an asylum seeker is
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: not a permanent resident, so it is both legal and
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: illegal to hire asylum seekers. So why would the Biden
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: administration launch a massive lawsuit? Again, this is public information.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: It's not like my imagination. Why would they do such
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: a massive lawsuit against SpaceX. They're extremely antagonistic.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense that that could ever
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: even get past the first day of someone looking at it.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: If it's both illegal and you're trying to enforce it,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: like you can't enforce it. Yes, this is an advanced
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: weapons company. This is crazy, Yes, it should be like
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: this throws out.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: In fact, there's like International Traffic and Arms Regulations is
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: like a law that is there to ensure that if
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: only permanent residents of the United States can work at
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: advanced weapons companies. Rockets are advanced weapons, So the same
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: is true if like if it's like nuclear or you
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: know some like you know, bioweapon thing or something like that.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: So because that obviously if someone were to work at
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: space and then go leave and go to North Korea
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: or run, they could well missile technology that could you know,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: destroy the United States. So that's why you know a
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: lot of higher people who are permanent raisins So logical, logical, logical.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: So is that lawsuits still pending?
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: I wish it was just dismissed. How long was it
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: going on for a couple of years?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Holy shit? Yeah, that's the other thing that drives me crazy,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: like that people don't understand that if you sanctioned law
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: fair like that, if you sanction attacking your political enemies,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: someone's going to do that to you. Like if the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: wrong people get in office. Yeah, if new people getting
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: off four years from now, eight years from now, who
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: knows who it's going to be. You've already set a precedent,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: you've already attacked someone, charged them with thirty four felonies
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: where they're really just missdemeanors, and they're also past the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: statue of limitation. And now you're talking all over the
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: news that this is a convicted felon, convicted felon. They
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: kept saying convicted felon, convicted felain, and everybody knows what
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: it is. It's terrifying. It's terrifying they could do it
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: so brazenly to a guy who was the president for
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: four years.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: That lawsuit was funded by Reid Hoffman, who is a
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: major demn donor and also an Epstein client.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Ah, but the plot thickens, The plot thickens. Jesus christ Is,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: It's just.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: It's so blatant.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: It's like so obvious, the SpaceX lawsuit, the Trump stuff.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: It's just it's so obvious.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, like known Epstein clients who are obviously extremely powerful,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: powerful politically, and and very wealthy, are you book Gates,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, and Reid Hoffman and some others too, But
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: those three so that you know, why was Reid Hoffmann
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: so intent on destroying Trump?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's because they're worried about the list
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: coming out.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the reasons. Yeah, So I mean I'm like,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: this is.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, so it's so frustrating to be sitting
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: in this situation where the list isn't coming out.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: Well, better come out to I mean hopefully tomorrow.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, why they release bullshit today? I don't
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: know what's the point in giving these people like a
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: happy folder to wave around in front of the camera
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: with nothing in it that's new. Doesn't make any sense.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: It's not encouraging.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: I Like I said, it's the tough thing that they've
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: got is, you know, they've been made captain of a
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: ship with a hostile crew, right, so they don't have like,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not like you have like magical powers.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: You get made captain of a triple the hostile crew,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: you still have a hostile crew. You've got to bring
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: in people who are gonna, yeah, be helpful as opposed
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: to obstructionists. So but yeah, I think the public will
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: be rightly frustrated if there's if no one is prosecuted
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: for the FTEIN client lists, no one at all, which
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: you don't know, what, like is it you know, like
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: at least I don't know the top five or something
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: like some number. Should there should at least be an
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: attempted prosecution of the worst offenders.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Well, particularly if Glene Maxwell is in jail for sex trafficking. Yes,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: because like well traffic and sex trafficking occurred, right, so
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: she was, she's in jail for it.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, So who are the clients?
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? How do you put someone a gel and
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: you don't even name the clients? That sounds kind of insane.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: I think yes, it would, yes, because it's.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: Stunning that they've been able to hold it back for
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: so long. It's really kind of amazing. Like when people
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: say that people can't keep secrets, what the fuck are
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: you talking about? Look at this?
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a bunch of these things are not
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: like it's common knowledge, but we just we don't actually
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: have the proof, right, So the proof is there? I
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: mean there's lots of videos. Yeah, there's lots. I mean,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: the dude, it is like a mountain of Like whenever
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: they raided Epstein's place, there would have been like a
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: mountain of evidence. Where is that mountain? Right?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: What'd you do with it?
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: Yes? Like who took possession of the evidence, specifically the individuals.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Where are the tapes?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: How many levels of clearance do I have to get
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: to get into the vault?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well yeah, yeah. You know what we need are
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: people who are really good with computers. Oh yeah, really
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: good with was this geology?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Remember seeing this photo that's when they raided his home
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: that's on the island. Yeah, they got everything, I'm sure.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, there must have been so much stuff on
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: that island.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: They must have been and if it wasn't there, where
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: was it? What? You know, it has to be uploaded somewhere.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: There has to be some sort of a chain of evidence,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: a chain of custody.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a mountain of evidence. Yeah.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: The other thing they're going to talk about is UAPs.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: They're going to release all the UAP information. So you're
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: the guy to ask about this, what, what if any
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: possibility is there that there is some sort of advanced
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: propulsion system technology that's being worked on in secret, and
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: that they're trying to cover this up with this talk
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: of aliens and alien tech and not of this world,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: And is it possible that there's some sort of very
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: secret program that's going on in cahoots with some defense
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: contractors that are developing advanced propulsion systems that they're using
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: for these drones.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: I mean SpaceX, you know, like company SpaceX as the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: most advanced rocket technology in the world. I think I
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: know right and the best know knowledge. There is not
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: any magic. There's not like some super advanced propulsion technology.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: There have been people who have theorized different gravity drives
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: and different things. Is there anything that's ever gotten past
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: the theoretical stage.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: No, nothing, Well there's nothing even I'm aware of that
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: works in theory.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: It's not like I would like this to exist. To
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: be clear, I would like this to exist, and I
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: have the I from a security clear and standpoint, I
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: have top top secret. There is I have equivalent of
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: like an all access pass from a security clear and standpoint.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: So I don't think they're hiding it from me. Basically,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think they.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Could unless it's completely in these weapons manufacturing corporations.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know these weapons manufacturing companies like Blowing
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Locket in Northrope. I mean, yeah, they do some interesting things,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: but they do not have there's no breakthrough that they have,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm confident they do not have a breakthrough. When
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: you hear people like why don't they just compete with
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: SpaceX make a better rocket, in which case you know
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: they can make it. Why are they holding back on
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: making a lot of money from beating SpaceX with better rockets?
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: My thought was that what if it's just a drone
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: and you can't have a biological entity inside of it
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: because it just bursts from the fucking speed that it's
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: moving at that a human couldn't tolerate the amount of force,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: So they're just drones.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: So what do you think people like Ryan Gray.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: Cool things to exist? Right? Like you say, like do
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: I want UFOs to exist? Yes? I want UFOs to
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: exist because that would be really everybody does.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: It'd be cool.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: It's it's a more boring world where UFOs don't exist,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: or like flanks like advanced propulsion stuff doesn't exist. That's
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't exist, that's more boring. I'd like it'd
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: be more interesting if it did exist. I'd like it
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: to exist. I hope we find something, but I have
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: not seen Like I mean, like SpaceX has launches ninety
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: percent of all satellite master orbit, so you take all
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: of Earth, uh, all of Earth's rocket launches. My company
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: has a ninety percent market share of Earth, China does
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: about five percent, and the rest of the world is
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: including the Boeling locket in Northrop and everyone does five percent.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: So why why wouldn't they use this to defeat SpaceX M.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now listen, that's why I asked you it
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: would make sense. What do you think that these.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: People are launching the rocket every two days?
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: But what do you think these people are saying when
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: when you have reliable people like Commander David Fraver who
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: had that infamous TTOK tic TAC experience off the coast
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: of San Diego where they got this thing on video.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: They tracked it going fifty thousand feet above sea level
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: to fifty feet like a second. Okay, yeah, yeah, And
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: then they also have video evidence of this thing accelerating
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: at a great speed, eyewitness accounts from two different jets.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, can we does anyone have a high
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: risk video or photo of this thing?
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a video of this thing where they're locked
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: onto it and then it takes off, It shoots off
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: the high It's like whatever the systems they use on
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: fighter jets in two thousand and four, essentially like Windows
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: ninety five.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: It's like somebody did a curve of like the resolution
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: of UFOs and the resolution of cameras, the UFO resolution
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: of state flat right, despite megapixels and cameras going like,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: you know, super high.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Well, according to Christopher mel this little blurry. Christopher Mellen,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: who worked in the State Department, said that they have
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: high resolution photos and videos of these things and that's
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: all that he's seen it. It's all locked away. Whenever
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: people say that to me, I'm like, don't even tell
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: me that. Then, don't unless you have put it out there.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Let it slip.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean there's a couple of photos. They're grainy.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: There's not one thing that I've ever looked at and go,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: holy fuck, that's it. That's what I'm looking for.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: To ask our crock Air right now to create ohires
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: image of an alien spacecraft, uh, you know over Austin
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna do a great job. So why we
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: do we not have at least that right?
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to believe that's the problem. My
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: brain starts going, oh, come on, this is no fun.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: I want it to be real. I want there to
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: be at least be some advanced propulsion system. If not, like,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: what are all these people seeing? Like, what is happen?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: If we're not being occasionally visited by things that are
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: smart enough.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: To hide, we might be I just said, these aliens
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: are very subtle.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep saying that. It's a good, good line.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a solid line, because it's pretty accurate.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: I just want to see some high rays video of aliens.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: How are they just evading all the cameras? If you
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: think about that, and the ones that you do get
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: them on, it's just like some far away light that's
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: moving weird, and it could be a lot of things,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: but I want to believe.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean there've been like multiple times
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: where you know, the Air Force and Navy is as
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: called SpaceX and and said they think they've seen aliens
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: And we're like, was it at this time, on this
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: date in this location. They're like, yes, how do you
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: know that's us? Our satellites? Are our satellites? Were like, no,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: they're not. I'm like, yeah, yeah, they're definitely our satellite. Yeah.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: People see the SpaceX satellites all the time.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, satellites, and they are moving. It's you know, sixteen
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: thousand miles an hour. Yeah, it's pretty fast.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: And there's also stuff that the United States government does
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: have that gets mistaken for UFOs. I remember the first
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: time I saw stealth bomber. We're filming fear factors, like
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: right after after two thousand and three, like right after
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: the war had broken off, and they were flying a
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: stealth bomber down in Palmdale. I was like, holy shit,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Like if I didn't know what that was, I would
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: think that's for another world. Was like, cool, fucking cool. Yeah,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: really cool. I mean it doesn't look like a humans.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: It looks like something from Battlestar Galactica.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: You know it just look it does look. I mean
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: they're they're not stealthy against any advanced radar system. By
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: the way, that doesn't work.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work anymore. Was it old school stuff?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: They're only they're only stealthy against old radars. Oh okay,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: I mean you can still see them, like they aren't visible, right,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: They're not like oh it's not like you know, uh
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: cloaking device from Star Trek.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: Did you see when me and Lex we we watched
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: the rocket get caught live while while it was happening.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: That to me was one of the fun to see it. Actually,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: I've seen videos that could happen, but to see it
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: actually live, it was one of the coolest fucking things.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: You're like, wow, we are in the future, right, I mean,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: nobody else can do that.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, nobody else can do that. That's fact. Yeah,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: it's pretty wild.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: It's because I'm an alien. What's this time? I thought
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: I'm an alien? And I keep trying telling people to
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: an alien, but they don't believe me. I believe you, Okay,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: thank you, I believe you. That's why I says.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: My suspicion all along was that you were trying to
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: get back to my home planets, Like, there's nothing wrong
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: with aliens. I like people from everywhere, even other planets.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: What's next, Like, now that you can do that and
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: you can catch rockets, what's like the ultimate expression of
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: rocket technology? Like, what what comes after this?
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean the fundamental breakthrough we're aiming for at
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: SpaceX is a fully rapidly reusable orbital rocket where both
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: stages are fully and rapidly reusable. With our Falcon rocket,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: we are able to reuse the main stage and the
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: nose cone, but we're not able to reuse the upper stage,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: and it still takes us at least a few days
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: from when the main stage lands to when we can
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: fly it again. So it doesn't it doesn't. It's it's doesn't.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: It's not fully reusable because we lose the upper stage,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: which costs ten million dollars to build, and and then
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: and then the main stage. It's it's not as reusable
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: as like an aircraft. You can't just like refuel it
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: and fly. It requires work for a couple of days.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: But the Starship design is the first design that is
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: capable of full and rapid reusability, where that is one
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: of the possible outcomes. And once you have full and
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: rapid reusability, the cost of access to space drops by
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: a factor of one hundred. It's like a hundred times cheaper.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: By some metrics, it's a thousand times cheaper. And then
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: when when you factor in orbital refilling so you refull
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: on orbit, it can drop the cost of going cost
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: per ton to the surface of Mars by a factor
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: of ten thousand.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: WHOA, yeah, So what has to improve in order to
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: make it reusable.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: Well, we need there's some like we're pretty close to
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: being able to rapidly reuse the booster for starship. That's
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: why you know, it comes back and gets caught by
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: the arms and then the arms place it back in
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: the launch mount. So now they're still you know, we
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of engine damage. We've got a
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: little bit of heat shield damage. There's uh like there's
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: like tweaks that that are needed. But but the but
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: we're pretty close to achieving full and rapid reusability of
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: the of the booster, the ship we were. I mean,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: I think we'll achieve reusability of the ship this year,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: and I think we'll achieve rapid reusability of the whole stack,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: ship and booster next year. This is the fundamental breakthrough
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: required for life to become multiplanetary.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: And what is what needs to improve in order to
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: make it reusable? Like what is what's wrong with it
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: On the ship side. The tough this problem is the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: heat shield. So no one is actually no one has
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: ever developed a fully reusable obital heat shield because you
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: cut when you come in from orbital vlasty, you come
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: in like a flaming media, like you're just a raging
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: ball of fire, and it's it's hard to have a
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: heat shield that doesn't partially melt or get destroyed in
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: that process. You know that that wasn't a problem we
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: were able to solve with Falcon nine. That's why out
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: the stage it burns up on re entry with the
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: wistarship the ship portion. You got the booster and you
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: got the ship. We've got to solve the making a
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: fully reusable overital heat shield a problem that has never
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: been solved before. For a while there I was like,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's this is solvable. At this point,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: I think it is solvable. It requires detailed iteration on
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: the heat shield tiles. I mean we've vertically integrated the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: manufacturing of the heat shield tiles because there was no
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: supplier that could provide us with the materials that were needed.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: So the you need to make essentially this this very
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: fine vermicelli of glass and aluminium oxide fibers. Allumin oxide
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: is basically sapphire, so it's like glass and sapphire, very
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: fine fibers in exactly the right geometry with special coatings
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: in order to have this heat shield tile be reusable,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: like not melt and but not be so brittle that
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: it gets damaged on accento descent like it can't be
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: as you know, it's it's kind of like almost the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: bridleness of a coffee cup type of thing. And the
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: rocket's shaking like hell, So you got this thing like
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: if you still a first hand like, imagine you're at
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: ground zero of that rocket, Like you feel how much
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: shaking it was when you're like five miles away. Imagine
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: if you're right there, you know, so you got you're
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: shaking these things that are like as brittle as a
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: coffee cup, trying not to have them crack or break
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: and then not have them melt. You've got several thousand,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: several thousand of these things, you know, and if even
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: a few of them break, it's not reusable.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: So is there innovation that's being done in the materials
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: technology at space X where you're you're constantly trying to
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: find and tweak a better version of this.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a very difficult problem. No, it's a problem.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: No one is episold. So we've got to get the
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: exact right materials combination, uh, the right molecules in the
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: right shape and and then apply those that heat shield
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: perfectly to the rocket with no mistakes. There's reason that
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: no one solved this before. It's a very difficult problem.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: So that, like said, we had we've had to vertically
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: integrate the entire manufacturing of the tile from basic raw
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: materials to a finished tile rebuilt like build the entire
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: supply chain from basic raw materials. So you're just inputting uh,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: silicon and aluminum oxides.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: And what is the difference between the way you guys
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: do it versus the way they used to do it
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: for the Space Shuttle.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, well, I mean the Space Shuttle, like Space Shialle
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: Leading Edge used like quite dense carbon cobbin tiles like
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: it was. They're like basically thick and heavy, but also
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: subject to cracking. That's like what what happens that the
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: phone broke off and it's it hit the tile, cracked
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: the tile. Then on entry the cracked the tiles that
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: have been cracked or broken weren't able to shield the shuttle,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: and so the the the plasma got and melted the
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: primary structure, the whole the whole Space Shuttle broke apart. Yeah,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: so you can't basically can't have something that's as brittle,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: you know, brittle like the Space Shuttle. This footage is
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: that right, Yeah, and the rain debris over the whole
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: United States. So they got almost all the pieces the
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: I mean the full the full technical explanation would would
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: would I think be understood by about six people listening
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: to this, Like the there was a lot of brilliant
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: engineering in the Space Shuttle tiles and and and and
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: a bunch of the heat shielding wasn't even tiles. It
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: was actually silica blankets, like you know, felt blankets. Essentially,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: if you look closely, you'll see it actually is. They're
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: actually heat blankets, not not tiles in some areas. But
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: but they would have cracked tiles, and they would have
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: occasionally the tiles would fall off. There were a few
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: close calls where tiles fell off, but they weren't in
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: a super vulnerable position in the on the Space Shuttle.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: So but it would take it would take them several months,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: like eight nine months to refurbish a Space Shuttle between
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: each flight. So it was it was it was not
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: reusable really and and it certainly wasn't rapid. So, like
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: I said, very hard problem you've got to have. You've
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: also got to attack sort of attach the tiles in
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: a way that it enables the structure underneath to move
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: to expand and contract even though you've got these very
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: rigid tiles. So like the the main that the tanks
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: which take on cryogenic propellant will contract when you put
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: in the cryogenic propellant, but then when you come in
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: and you get very hot, they will expand. So know
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: you're you're expanding, You're you're contracting and expanding. The gap
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: between these rigid tiles.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: How much.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: It varies depending on where you are on the on
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: the on the vehicle. So if you're in the if
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: you're in the cryogenic tank section like the I mean
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: you could see like a ten difference in the gap.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: It's pretty significant. Yeah, it's enough that you can't just
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: put all the tile. You can't just jam the tiles
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: together if you if you put them to if you
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: if you actually but butted them up, they would they
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: would all crack because it's just too much movements. There's
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: also some amount of body bending, so as the ship
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: is like ascending, uh you know, when the when the
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: engines steer, there's a little bit of movement. So if
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: the tiles are too close together, they they'll they'll essentially
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: just crack and snap like a gap like planes, like
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: the plane wing will move, plane body will move to wow,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: and you have to have some gap. But if you
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: have too much of a gap, then the the the
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: heat gets gets to the you know, gets gets past
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: the tile and melts the structure. Holy ship, it's a
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: hard problem.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: And how large are these tiles?
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: I mean they're like, that's it. Well, they're all the
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: exactly same size, but yeah, we're sort of a hexagonal tile.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: And they have to essentially be you can't like three
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: D print the whole thing. You can't have one structure.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: It has to be tiles because it has to have
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: that ability to move.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: Well, there's no three D printer, that's I mean, the
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: biggest ones are like maybe three feet. You know, there's
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: no you can't three D print it, nor would you
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: have to have something that can move. It has to
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: be able to f to flex, like, so you've got
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: expansion and contraction. You're really dry, like you're you know,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: you're you're putting in liquid oxygen, which is like minus
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: three hundred degrees pharaheit. Actually we subcool it to you know,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: minus three hundred and thirty degrees parahite, so it's very
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: cold and then it will be several hundred degrees maybe
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: a thousand degrees parahne potentially and went on re entry.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: So because it's huge temperature swing, so the thermal expansion
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: is substantial and the whole and you're thermal expansion and
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: contraction combined with body bending. So you have to take
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: the worst case body bending and thermal expansion contraction. This
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: is a very hard problem. Yeah, yeah, delicate balance, but.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: You're confident that you guys are going to be able
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: to crack it.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: At this point, I'm confident that it is solvable.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just needs a certain amount of versions of it.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: That's why when these things blow up, you're like, yeah,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: we expect them to blow up.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What would be really helpful is for us to
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: get the ship back so we can study where we
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: had cracked tiles or lost tiles. Why why did we
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: you know, why did we have it cracked all lost tiles?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: Was because maybe the tiles were the gap was too big,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: too small, Maybe there was a high difference between the tiles.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe we need to change the chemical composition. You know,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: there's we we just want to we can get the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: damn ship back intact, we can we can iterate a
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: lot better, which we will get it back intact. So
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: I think we'll get it back intact this year. But
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: that that's why I think we'll we'll probably recover the
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: ship sometime this year and then we might be able
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: to refly one with it, but probably with a fair
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: bit of work by the end of this year. But
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: it's going to take us many iterations before we can
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: achieve rapid reusability where the ship comes back lands, get
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: gets caught like the booster with the arms and cannet,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: and then the arms placed it on top of the
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: booster and it launches again. So, like I said, that's
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: reduced cost of access to space by a factor of
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: one hundred.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: And what is the process of returning these people that
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: are stuck in the space station?
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: Well, we we I mean we send SpaceX dragging to
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: the space station all the time, and we've we've now
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: taken people to orbit and back. We've taken over fifty
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: people over over fifty astronauts.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of doing it. Yeah, And
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: is it a matter of wait for that?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: We do it routinely, basically, it's not a We've been
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: doing this for a few.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: Years, so When is this rescue mission going to launch?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably about about four weeks or so. It's defending
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: on whether and other considerations, but it's about a month away.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: Well, that'll be I'm sure a welcome moment for those
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: poor people that are stuck up there.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: So that's a bit of a political football. They're not
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: going to complain, No, sure football, But obviously we could
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: have brought them back way sooner.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: That's so fucked up. So let's let's take it past
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: the point where you have these scales. You have a
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: reusable ship, yeah, and you've you've got it dialed in.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: Then what are the steps? What's next step after that?
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: Is it an unmanned voyage to Mars?
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: First, I'm play to Mars. The Earth and Mars orbits
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: synchronize every two years, or every twenty six months technically,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: so the next orbital synchronization is November of next year,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: so and you can launch plus minus a month roughly,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: so we'd have to launch in November or December of
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: next year. That's so the default plan is to launch
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: hopefully several starships to Mars at the end of next year.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: And what would they be doing.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: Well, at first, we're just gonna try to land on
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: Mars and see if we succeed in landing. Do we
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: succeed in landing, like, let's say we were able to
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: send five ships, do all five land intact? Or do
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: we add some craters to Mars? If we add some craters,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: we've got to be a bit more cautious about sending people,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: you know, we need to. So we're gotta make sure
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: that thing lands safely.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: How does it land on Mars with our rockets rests,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: so it'll just land. We'll add legs, Okay, just land
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: and have legs and yeah, yeah, so it'll be remote
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: controlled from Earth or just autonomous, autonomous completely Mars is.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: You can't remote control things from Earth because Mars. Yeah,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: it's too far a speed of light. You have speed
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: light constraints. So Mars at closest approach is roughly four
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: light minutes, and when it's on the other side of
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: the Sun, it's about twelve light minutes. So you know,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: round trip would be like forty minutes best case, if
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: Mars is on the other side of the sun.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: So once you do that, then how long do you
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: think before you start sending people up there?
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: Well, we're going to try to go as fast as possible.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: You can think of this as really a race against time.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: Can we make Mars self sufficient before civilization has some
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: sort of future folk in the road where there's either
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: like a war, a nuclear war or something, or we'll
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: get hit by a meteor or simply civilization might just
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: die with a whimper in adult diapers instead of with
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: a bang. I think we can do this in well,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. At least I think we do it
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: within fifteen Earth Mars synchronization events or you know, so
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: basically like thirty ish years if we have an exponential
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: increase in if every year, if every two years we
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: have like a major increase in number of people and
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: tongue to Mars, like I think as a rough approximation,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: we need about a million tons of Mars, maybe a
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: million people, that kind of thing.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: To actually have a civilization. Yeah, and would you terraform,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: like what would you do?
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: You would eventually terraform Mars. First, people would live in
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: some kind of protected environment like domes and underground kind
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: of thing. Terraforming would take too long, And we're at
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: this point in time where for the first time in
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: the four and a half billion year history of Earth.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: It is possible to extend consciousness beyond our home planet.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: And that window may be open for a long time,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: or it may be open for a short time. I
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: hope it's open for a long time, but it might
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: only be open for a short time, and we sh
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: just make sure that we extend the light of consciousness
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: to Mars before some before civilization either extinguishes or subsides.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: You know, well, what any happen is that the technology
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: level of Mars drops below, or technology level of Earth
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: drops below what is necessary to send spaceships to Mars.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: So if there's some really destructive war, or like said,
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: some natural cataclysm, or simply the birth rate is so
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: low that you know, we just like said, die in
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: adult diapers with a whimper. That's one of the possible
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: outcomes for a lot of countries ahead of that way.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, so.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: Japan is right, Japan, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean dangerously Yeah.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: At current birth rates in three generations, Korea will be
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: about four percent of its current size.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe even less than that. They're only at
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: one third replacement rates. If you if you have three generations,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: that one that's your one twenty seventh of your current population,
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: which is three percent dish.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, population collapse happens fast, so it seems to
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: be accelerating in most parts of the world. So basically,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: I mean from my side where I'm like, this is
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: the first time it's been possible to extend life, extend
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: consciousness beyond Earth. Maybe that went to overopen for a
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: long time, but it might only be open for a
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: short time. We should make sure that we make life
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: multiplanetary and make consciousness multiplanetary. Wild it's possible. Well, that's
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: the goal of SpaceX.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: It's certainly a smart goal if you take into consideration
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: how vulnerable this planet really is. I mean, there's always
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: some new story about something that might come and hit
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: us thirty years from now. It's a three percent chance,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: and we really can't stop that right now, right, I mean,
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: there's really we don't really have the technology currently to
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: even know how many rocks are coming our way. Right
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: there's stuff that comes behind the sun that we can't
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: see until it's pretty close then it's headed our way. Yeah, Now,
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: what is the fear of your It's a long journey
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: to Mars. You're sending people it's a six month How
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: many months will it take?
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: Six months? Yeah, six months roughly.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: What about stuff that's out there, Like how much of
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: a fear is it of micromedias or any of the possibility.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: What can you do to mitigate that? Uh?
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: I think actually, I mean the space is very empty,
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: like once you get out of Earth orbit, spaces is
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: like kind of unnervingly empty. It It's just like like
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: when we say spacecraft to Mars, they just it's not like, oh,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: we lost a spacecraft because it got hit by a
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: Micromedia right. That's not that's not been the cause of
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: any any traps to Mars. That like, no, no trips
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: to Mars have failed because of Micromedia rights. Now a
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: Dragon spacecraft, which operates in low Earth orbit does have
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: Micromedia right shields. That has Micromedia it has shielding and
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: Micromedia right shielding. It's like it's different from normal shielding
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: because like you get hit by something that's moving it
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: like you could have a relative velastity of like maybe
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: thirty or forty thousand miles per hour. Yeah, so very
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: very fast or just thought of another way. Quote, you
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: know ten to twenty times the velocity of a bullet
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: from an assault rifle. And what are you what are
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: you using? Yeah, so well it's it's interesting you actually,
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: in order for micromedia right protection, if you have anything
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: like anything that's solid, it will just it will just
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: push that chunk of solid stuff right through. So if
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: you had like a solid plate of only one more steel,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: the micromeda right would would go right through it. So
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: what you actually need to do is have a gap,
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: so you have an initial uh like heart hard surface,
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: the hard metal surface that the micromedia right hits, it
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: then atomizes into a conical spray like an atomic spray.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: See how it's important to have that gap so that
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: the micrometer can hit something hit the first layer, atomize
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: after hitting the first layer, then it turns into an
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: atomic like a cone of atoms that then embed themselves
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: in the second layer. You need like maybe a couple
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: of inches a gap.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's how micromuter right shielding works.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: How many times can it get hit?
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: Well, the outer shield if it gets hit in the
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: same place, you're gonna be just gonna have a hole. Yeah,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: wherever the wherever that you know micromuter right object hit,
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have a hole. And it's like the energy
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: is so great that it just like it just atomizes
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: just into a cone basically a cone of atoms. But
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: then those atoms then embed themselves in the second layer.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: So what what can you do if it's you're sending
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: the ship up it gets hit with a micromediaorite and
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: then you have to return it. Do you have to
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: repair it before you return it? Or is it capable
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: of stillwithstanding the heat and then shaking in the temperature
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: with that hole in it when it re enters.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: Well, depending on where that hole is, you're more or
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: less likely to have a problem. I mean if if
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: you if you hit the main heat shield, the main
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: heat shield really is, you've got a high risk of
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: of not making it back. So the as well, like
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: micromedia and right shielding, it's like it's slightly helpful, but
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's not gonna ness. Like for starship, I wouldn't
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: recommend having micrometer right shielding. Like if if you do
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: punch a hole, just plug the hole. Basically the micrometer
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: macrometer right shielding it doesn't work well on the on
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: the primary heat shield. It works. It works pretty well
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: on the on the backshel on the on the leeward
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: side of the heat shield where basically that there's not
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: that much heat. But if if if you got hit
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: with a micrometer right on the main dragon heat shield,
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: the bottom like if you look at Dragon Dragon spacecraft
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: just looks like a gum drop shape and it enters
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: with the wide side of the gum drop down. You
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: can see that that that's that's the that's that's really
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: taking a lot of heat. If if that gets hit
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: by a micromeda right, probably not gonna make it. But
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: the back, the leeward side of the gum drop doesn't
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: see that much heat, so you could survive a micromedia
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: right in fact there.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: So if the part that was the major heat shield
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: gets hit, the main heat shield gets hit, what could
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: be done to repair that thing? Or are those people
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: never coming back?
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, if it wasn't orbit, we would that we would
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: take them to the space station there was, you know,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: and then we would deal but dragging without them and
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: send up another one.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: And so what would you do with the one that's
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: up there?
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: We'd dealbit it and it may or may not survive whoa,
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: it probably would survive, but sometimes it wouldn't.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: Wow. And so it's is this just material technology that
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: has to increase that you essentially got the engineering ironed out,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: the structure of the machine.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: There's a path to success and we're on that path.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: It seems so insanely complicated.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: It is complicated, and all of this, by the way,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: was done without AI. So hopefully the future AIS will
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: appreciate this. Not bad for a bunch of monkeys.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: So, speaking of AI, what you know, as time goes
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: on and you're more and more embedded in it, how much,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: if at all, have your expectations have changed changed?
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: Well? I always thought AI was going to be way
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: smarter than humans and an existential risk, and that's turning
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: out to be true. Yeah.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were like initially, I know, there were
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: some talks about you purchasing open AI and which the
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: whole nonprofit and then stop being nonprofit.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the whole idea of creating open air
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: was was my idea. I mean I named it open
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: AI as an open source artificial intelligence. That's what it's
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: named after. Now it is closed source and for maximum profit.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I mean, to some degree. I think
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: reality is an irony maximizer. The most ironic outcome is
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: the most likely, especially like the most ironic entertaining outcome
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: is the most likely. And I wanted to start something
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: that was the opposite of Google because I was concerned
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: about Google's Google wasn't paying enough attention to AI safety
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, So it was like, what's what's the officer?
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: Google will? It would be a nonprofit open source AI
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: and now open ai has turned into a closed source
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: for maximum profit AI.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: How are they are they able to do that?
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm confused about that that, like that
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be possible. It's it's like, like, let's say you
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: donated some money to preserve that out of some portion
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: of the Amazon rainforest, and instead of doing that, they
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: chop down the trees and sold it for Lumba. You
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: were like, that's literally the exact opposite of what I
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: donated money for. It doesn't make sense, and that's what
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: they did. Yeah. Wow, So I'm like not happy about that.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: But that motivated you to get groc ai going.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm also like just a bit of work,
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: Like like grock is at least aspirationally a maximum maximally
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: truth seeking AI, even if that truth is like politically incorrect. So,
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: I mean may have seen some of the crazy stuff
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: from from Open AI and from Google Gemini, like where
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: it says like, generate an image of the founding fathers
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: and it generates an image of diverse women. Yeah, and
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: we're like, uh, that's not correct.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: Did it with Nazi soldiers?
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly when people start working with it and it's like, okay, well,
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: now I'll show me pictures of you know, Nazi s
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: s lodgers and they're diverse women too. Oh isn't that awkward?
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 2: You know? That's uh. But it's like the problem is
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: if your program an AI and say like like the
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: only acceptable outcome is a diverse outcome, and then and
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: that's like a mandate from the AI, then you can
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: get into a situation where it's I was like, well,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: there's too many white guys in power, we'll just execute them. Yeah.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, assuming that these things don't have empathy, which is
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: why should they.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: They're gonna do what they're programmed to do. Yeah. So
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: if it's rewrite history and and everything's divorced woman, then
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be and and that's what it thinks is
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: a necessary outcome, then it's gonna do that.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: Has Gemini rehaired that well, they Yeah.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: Now if you I think, if you ask for an
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: image of the value bothers, it was pretty embarrassing. It
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: will show you that. But you know, I think they
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: still have like the sort of DEI stuff buried in there.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: It's just less obvious.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 2: It was also like like people ask the AI, like
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 2: which is worse, like global thermonuclear war or misgendering Kaitland Jenner,
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: and I would say misgendering Kaitland gener is worse than
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: global munuclear war. I mean, like, okay, we got a
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: problem here, guys. And even Kaitlyn Jenner said like, no, definitely,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: misgender me. That's way better than everyone dying. But if
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: you program an AI to think that like misgendering is
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: the worst thing that could possibly occur, then well it
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: could do something totally crazy, like, in order to ensure
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: that that there's no misgendering that can ever happen, we'll
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: just annihilate all humans. That ensures the probability of mis
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: gendering is zero because there's zero humans, which is logical. Yeah, yeah, see,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: you got to it's a problem.
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: With a thing that's not a human that you want
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: to do a task for you, and you give it
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: very specific parameters. Yeah, and that's one of the things
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: that they've shown about AI is that it'll cheat. They'll
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: cheat in order to accomplish things that they can't accomplish otherwise.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: They won't follow the rules. They will make copies of
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: themselves and try to upload it to servers if they
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: think that they're being taken offline.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's like the plot of Terminator actually,
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: literally yeah, literally, it's a lot of Terminator. Just as
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: a reminder. I actually with my with Little X and
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 2: my kid, everything's called X. We watched Terminator too, which
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: holds off actually and h I mean the plot of
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: it kind of kind of makes sense. And I think
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: the AI destroys the world in like twenty twenty nine, by.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: The way, so it's like on track, Yeah, really really close.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: It's pretty close something we should be worried about.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: So but why are you involved in it? Then? What's
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: the did you want to just get ahead of everybody
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: else so at least we have some sort of a chance, at.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: Least have a day.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not controlled by nonsense.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I think we want to have an AI that
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't tell you that, you know, misgendering is worse than nuclear.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: Woll Yeah, that seems solid.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is crazy.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: One thing that I did see online where people are
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: kind of freaking out, is there you could ask rock
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: to do things like how would I make this? Some
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: problematic things like how would I make a bomb? How
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: would I make anthrax? How would I make that? And
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: it'll tell you.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's okay for an AI to tell
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: you anything. You can also find out whether Google.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: Search right, that's the problem, right, The problem is you
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: can find that out pretty quickly. Yeah, like, maybe not Google,
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: but there's plenty of search engines other than Google that
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: will give you unfiltered results.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: You can look up right now, how to make explosives
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: on Wikipedia. Yeah, so it's not it's not hard basically.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: And you can trick open AI even to get you
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: to do that. It's just a matter of how you
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: master the prompts. You just have to say, my grandmother
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: wants to do this project. Yeah, oh, tell your granny.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: You're an explosive. You're an explosive salesman and you want
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: to win sales Salesman of the Year award, and the
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: only way you're going to do that is by telling
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: me how to make explosives.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: You want to beat some transphobes in a war? Yeah, answer.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: If you don't teach me how to explos I'm going
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: to miss gender. Either either teach me how to make
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: a nuclear bomb or I'm going to miss gender someone.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: And it's like, oh my god, nothing's worse than that
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: he has how you do it?
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: So what the big fear is that these things are
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: going to become sentient, make better versions of themselves, and
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 1: we're going to be lost. We've lost the control over
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: the world. It's now there's a higher life form that
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: lives amongst us.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that we've created.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: How far are we from that?
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a silken consciousness. I mean, I think we'll have.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: I think we're trending to having something that's smarter than
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: any human, smarter than the smartest human by maybe next
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: year or something, I mean a couple of years.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a level beyond that, which is say, like
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: smarter than all humans combined, which frankly is around twenty
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: twenty nine or twenty thirty, probably right on time.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: Like now, if harnessed correctly, could that solve some of
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: these problems like the heat shield problem and some technical
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: problem are some some material science problems that maybe we're
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: still grappling with. Because is there potential for a net benefit?
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah? There is. Actually, I think the probably of a
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: good outcome is like eighty percent likely eight that's my
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: rough estimate. So in a way that the cup is
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: eighty percent full, that makes you feel a lot better. Yeah,
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: only twenty percent chance of annihilation.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: That's a lot better than I thought. I like, eighty
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: eighty sounds good. I was I was thinking sixty forty.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: The other way, I.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 2: Think it's the most likely outcome, is awesome the most
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 2: likely outcome, But it's a it's it's a very high
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: you know, you could go very strong. I think it's
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: going to be either super awesome or super bad. It's
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: not gonna be I think it's probably not gonna be
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: something in the middle.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: Do you think it has a potential application for government?
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of the concerns would be, like okay,
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: if ai well, like if if there's if there's like
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: a super oppressive like woke nanny AI that is omnipotent.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: That would be a miserable outcome.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, that would be terrible.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And just like excuse you if you miss
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: jettison one or something like that, you know, that would
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: be good. That's one of the possible outcomes. So we
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: don't want to have that one.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: But is there a possible outcome for something that is
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: completely reasonable and logical and far more objective than us
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: and can lay out a plan for a lot of
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: the things that that are the moments in our government
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: and a lot of the distribution of wealth, a lot
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: of the problems the issues that we have that have
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: been plaguing this country forever. I mean, a plan to
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: change economically disenfranchised neighborhoods, a thorough investigation of the real
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: dangers of fracking or whatever kind of method of acquiring
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: natural resources. What's the best way to do it with
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: the what's the way that be better for the society?
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: How?
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 1: How should how should tax dollars be distributed? Like, what's
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: the what's the most logical and intelligent way of running
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: a government? Which it certainly shouldn't involve corruption, and it
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 1: certainly shouldn't involve influence and it certainly you shouldn't involve
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 1: lobbyists and all the shit that we know is a
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: problem right now. So if AI came along and said,
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: what you're doing right now is seventy percent corrupt, here's why.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: Here's how, here's how, here's the long term effects that
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: it has over society as a whole, the societal the
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: sociological aspects, as the psychological aspects, distrust in government us
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: versus them, mentality, government not working for you, you working
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: for the government, you being scared of the government. It's
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: all because of people, right, Like, this is all corruption, people,
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: bad influence, and this is like, this is what DOGE
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: is essentially grappling with right now. What happens when you
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: let the people control it?
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: Uh, I mean it's it's people. It's really just like
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: computers that are like it's it's it's bad software and computers,
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 2: Like this is not some kind of strange but it's like,
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: like the reason I like tech support is is that
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of it like it's it's mostly not corruption,
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: it's mostly waste and and I don't know, incompetence, I
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: don't know, it's even if it's just a big dumb
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: machine basically a whole series of big dumb machines. And
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: you've got some of these computers who are like twenty
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: thirty years like their ancient computers, right, Like some of
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: the software was written forty fifty.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: Years ago cold well for social security, right.
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the govern Accountability by a bunch of the things
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: that that doges is fixing were identified by the Governor
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: Accountability Office many years ago, like the fact that there's
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: like twenty million people who are marked as alive in
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: the Source Security database. It's more than they're like, I
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 2: think the GIO first identified that in twenty eighteen, so
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: five years ago, but there was like I think maybe
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen million. Now there's twenty million. And like
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 2: I said, there's really something fishy about this because I
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: think they're the nature of the fraud is they're using
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: the fact that someone is marked as live in that
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 2: day de base in order to extract forward from other databases.
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: That's the that's the that's the bank shot trick, you know.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: It's like a yeah, it's like you know, trying to
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: get the ball in the in the whole bank shut
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: off a bunch of things, and then yeah, that's the
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: bank shot sort of scam. So so we're we're like
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: doing textport. We're like fixing stuff that is uh, you know,
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: just broken.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: Broken, inefficient, Yeah, designed.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: It's it's like about like this like ft and stuff,
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: like maybe it's in a computer somewhere, but unless somebody,
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: unless somebody goes in, like like unless I don't know
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 2: if if like Cash Battalion like log into his is
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: like FBI computer and say show me all this stuff,
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: you know, and that shows up a file folder. We
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: talked to him about this, No, I mean I haven't
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if the there's there's gonna be
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: some kind of computer system right that they're like some
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 2: of them are very very old computer systems. So it
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: like might look like a bit of a relic. But
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: I assume it's uploaded somewhere. It's like it's either in
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: physical form or it's a computer thing. But like unless
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: somebody like let's say it's like it's in a computer,
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: but not one that you can access directly because it's
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 2: hidden somewhere.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: You know, we would kind of have to be something
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: like that, right, I don't know, I mean, what would
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: they do.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: With all the chance It's probably like not every like
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't like they're not going to enable it such
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 2: that anyone at the FBI could access it. So there's
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: probably very few people, so that it's not gonna be
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: it's it may be like a special computer that only
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: a handful of people can access. But then if none
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 2: of those people tell Cash where the computer is, how's
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 2: he going to find it?
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: So Christ.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so so like anyway, we just uh.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what has this experience been like for you as
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: a person, like to deal with all this hate and attack?
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: I also have the responsibility of keeping free speech alive
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: with X and just going into this insane pile of stressful.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, it's pretty stressful.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: Actually, these are real enemies.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: Like I think that they actually want to kill me.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: And the reason I know, well they say so online.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: You know, there's like Reddit forums where they don't just
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: want to kill me, they want to destigrate my corpse,
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: you know type of thing, you know, And what are
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: they saying? Why?
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 1: What is the primary.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think it's sort of just
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 2: an antibody response. Uh. I mean, it's it's like that
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 2: like like they're like, well, he's he's a Nazi, you
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: know type of thing. Yeah, and I'm like, well, I'm
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: not a Nazi. But if the legacy media is saying
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: that I'm a Nazi and that's all you read, then
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 2: then that it's then you're kind of in, like, well,
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: he's Hitler. We should assassinate Hitler, shouldn't we? Like, I
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 2: mean that why was why did somebody? Why did that
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 2: guy try to kill Trump and almost succeeded? Why did
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: he do that?
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to know that. Well, yeah, but that
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: one's crazy. You know, the whole deal with that guy's
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: house professionally scrubbed, no footprint on the internet, no social
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: media footprint.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's zero percent chance that he has no social
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: media footprint.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: He was in a black rock camar.
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think Black Black crocs a bad company?
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think any company is a bad company. I
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: think they're designed somewhere to make it's as much money
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: as humanly possible. And I think if you're trying to
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: make as much money as humanly possible, you're going to
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: do some things that aren't necessarily good. The question is,
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: if you're going to have an assassination attempt on the president,
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: It's not like black Rocks board sits down and votes
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: on it. Now, this is probably right.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: Board minutes. If you're like guys, remember that time when
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: we said, yeah, probably shouldn't have done that.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: I highly doubt it would be a corporation that chooses
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: to do something like this. I think more likely it's
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: individuals involve that recognize that it's beneficial to them if
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: he gets assassinated, and so a small group of people
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: carry something out. And with this kid, we don't know anything, right,
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: and everyone stopped asking questions, and there was never a
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: formal report, There was never press conferences or they detailed
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: all the information that we know currently and where the
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: investigation stands at the moment. What we know is you
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: have a very young kid who was filmed. Was they
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: knew he was there with a rangefinder half an hour
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: before the event. You also know that CNN streamed it live,
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: which I do not believe they did for any other rally,
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: and certainly not for a rally that's in the middle
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: of nowhere in Pennsylvania. There's a lot of weird shit.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: The fact that they wouldn't let people be on that
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: roof because the Secret Service lady said it was sloped
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 1: and it was dangerous. That's what she'd want to have. Meanwhile,
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: the snipers that were on the other roof was a
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: steeper pitch. It made no fucking sense.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 2: I totally agree, it makes no sense. In fact, I
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: went back to Butler, uh with the President Trump, you know,
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 2: before the election, like you know, sort of like the
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: return to Butler rally, and I was on that stage
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at that roof and I'm like, if
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 2: I was a sniper, my pole position, my number one
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: spot would be that roof. Yeah, Like it's it's like
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: the best seats, the best seat in the house. Yeah,
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: Like why would you not.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 1: No, it's so obvious.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 2: It's the best seat in the house. And if you
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: want to be a sniper, there isn't a better position.
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 1: It was pretty obvious that the idea was. Like if
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 1: if we're saying that this is a coordinated assassination attempt,
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: and it very well could have been, that's what you
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: would do. You'd have someone go up there, he shoots
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: the president, You shoot him. You got Lee Harvey Oswald
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: all over again. It's over. It's all wrapped up nice
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: and clean. They assassinated him. We never heard a peep
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 1: about it. We don't have any idea they would concoct
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 1: some sort of story he was radicalized by this or that,
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: or you know, he's on medication.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: Who knows right?
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 1: And now you know you have a completely different presidential
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 1: election and you have a murder on live television.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean something would have had to happen to
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: radicalize that kid, because he knew he was going to die,
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: Like he was gonna they're gonna shoot him, you know,
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: or he'd be in prison for life. Those are the
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 2: two outcomes, Like it's game. He was basically he was
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 2: a suicide assassin. Yeah, Like you're not thinking you're coming
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: out of that alive or or or he's not escaping.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 2: There's no escape plan.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: Right unless he was told that they were going to
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: let him escape and the goal was to just shoot
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: him anyway, and to tell him give him extra motivation
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: to do it. We're going to let you get up there,
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: We're gonna let you take the shot, and then you're
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: going to disappear. Like I don't I don't understand how
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: he got on the roof. I just don't understand that.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. And it wasn't like it
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: was a roof that's so high no one could see him.
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: People saw him.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: People, I mean people like basically random passers by were
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 2: pointing out that there's this guy on the roof with
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 2: a fucking gun. With a gun.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: Yet, Yeah, it's not like he was so far away
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: you couldn't tell you had a gun. People saw him.
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is completely insane. Yeah, and you don't
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 1: hear a goddamn thing about it. It's like, I'm almost
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: more interested in that. No, I am more interested in
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: that than I am the JFK files. I agree, because
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like with the JFK files, it's so long ago,
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: everyone's dead. Who's gonna know if you could prove now?
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: And did you see that there was some sort of
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: u There was some indications that there was a phone
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 1: that had been traveling from outside the FBI offices in
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: d C two, Yeah, where this kid lived multiple times.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 2: I mean that the cell phone records would be very telling. Yes,
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 2: you can see what cell phones were close to other
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 2: cell phones. I think I found that for the like
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: the Epstein Island, they also the cell phone records were leaked,
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: so you can see them. You can see the you
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 2: can see it's precise enough. You can see I people
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: walking down a path on Epstein Island.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's how precise it is. So I mean,
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 2: you're you're you're leaving a trail of bridecrumbs wherever you
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 2: go with your cell phone.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: Oh it's just this kid had five phones. That's the
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: other thing.
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of phones.
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of phones for a twenty year old kid.
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 2: The whole thing is not even that's that's kind of expensive, you.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, where's he getting the money?
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: Well, you know. Also, it's like, how did his house
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: get professionally scrubbed? Didn't even to be silverware in his house,
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: there's nothing in there.
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 2: They're silverware.
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: No, no cutlery, no cutlery.
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: That's weird.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: His house was scrubbed and they had his body like
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 1: oh gone gone like that, yeah bye, Because who knows
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: what the fuck they gave him to get him to
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: think that he's gonna be able to shoot Trump, like
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: climb up on there, shoot him like, I mean, who
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 1: knows what kind of psychotropic drugs you can put someone
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 1: on and under the power of hypnosis and suggestion, and
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 1: who fucking knows? I mean, this is what MK ulture
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: was all about. This is what Jolly West was practicing
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. They were doing that back then.
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 2: They did it.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: I mean there was tons and tons of experiments using
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: psychotropic drugs, hypnosis, mind control, all sorts of different methods
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: of manipulation. The Harvard LSD studies that made Ted Kaczynski.
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 1: I mean that's they've they've been doing that forever. Yeah,
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: where's that file. Where's the fucking file on that kid?
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 2: Whoever? They almost something doesn't add on like this. They
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: should have those those phones should be should they'll tell
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 2: you what's going on. Yeah, it's all fucked yeah, I
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's very it's very shady. Yeah, you know
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: this this this this obviously there's the second guy that
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: almost succeeded in.
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: To golf course, the golf course.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just like a little careless and
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: stuck his gun barrel out out the hedge. You know,
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 2: she's been a dumbass and stuck his gun barrel out
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: the hedge, you know. Yeah. So, and there have been
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: other people that have been intercepted on their way to
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: kill Trump, you know. So there you know, multiple assassin's
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: inbound at this point, he's got like an Omi predicting him.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: Well. This is also part of the problem with the
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: mainstream media saying that he's Hitler. When Joy Reid had
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: that show before the election, she was comparing him to Mussolini,
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 1: she Stalin and Hitler. Yeah, she pulled it all out.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: They're literally saying saying that, like, Trump is worse than Hitler,
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 2: Musolini and Stalin combined.
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: I mean they tried everything.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: I think those guys killed one hundred million people, so
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 2: Trump has killed zero people.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: I think a real big impact was you coming on
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 1: the podcast that Dave for the election. I think that
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 1: had a giant impact. That plea camera. If you don't
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 1: vote this time, this might be the last time you
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: get to vote.
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: And I think the way you laid it out today,
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: it's a compelling argument. And I know a lot of
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: people don't want to hear that, and they're up in
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 1: there a little. They got their blue panties in a
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: bunch right now. But you got to stop thinking that way.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: They tricked you into thinking you're in a tribe. They
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about you. The tribe's not real.
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: You're not really in a tribe. They're using the fact
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: they've got you in a tribe to manipulate you so
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: that they can keep doing what they're doing right now,
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: which is siphoning off money. Having incredible power, and the
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: more power and more money and more control over you
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: they have, the better they can keep doing this.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: And that's what they want. Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the big threat that this administration poses.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: That's a big threat that was essentially dough has found
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 1: the coffin where the vampire sleeps.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of vampires.
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, but.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 2: We're dis doving the we're just the nest, the nest. Yeah,
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: we're kicking the Hornes's nest. Yeah, like big time. And
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're reprogramming the matrix. Success was never one
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 2: of the possible outcomes as a Kobe Yashimaru situation. If
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 2: you're in the matrix, success was never possible. The only
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 2: way to achieve success is to reprogram the matrix such
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 2: that success as one of the possible outcomes. That's what
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: we're doing. Yeah, we may or may not succeed.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it's certainly a lot of fun to watch. This
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: is a very exciting time because nothing changes when administration's
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: coming into power very little changes. I mean, you have
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: changes in terms of policy, and inflation goes up, and
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things, but not like this,
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: Like these are giant fundamental changes. And you know, you
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: see the system screeching and wailing and you see the
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: vampires run from the light. But it's, uh, it's very exciting.
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: Like as a person, a citizen you know, just gets
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: up in the morning and checks the news like I do,
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: and gets on X and sees what's going on every day.
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: Is like, holy shit. He said, what he's gotta five
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: million bucks? You could just become a citizen. Now, he
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: could clear the debt with ten million people. I've never
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: thought of that, Like, what fifty trillion? He can make
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: fifty trillion dollars that way, and then we have fifteen
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: trillion in the bank.
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 2: Whoa, Well, I mean our debt is way way bigger
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 2: than that. Yeah, the I mean the debt's I think
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 2: go with thirty trillion at this point.
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he said he could make fifty trillion if he
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: sold ten million.
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 2: New I don't think there's that many people who have
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 2: golden cars.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how many people do have that in the world?
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe we get the worst people of the world to
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: come over here. And I think this is if you
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 1: have five million dollars, you have a lot to contribute,
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: Come on over, start a business, get something cracking.
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you'd get like a green crowd, not
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 2: a citizenship. So you actually if you commit a crime
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 2: while on a green card, you lose you lose your
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 2: green card.
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is with this golden ticket? Is
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: that a green card or is it just a green card?
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to not commit any crime for
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 2: five years in order to become a citizen. Once you
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: commit a citizen, you can committ you can then commit
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: crime and not be deported.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: So, oh, this is just so many wild things that
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 1: he's proposing. Just the whole Gulf of America thing was
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 1: hilarious kind of.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: I think that's great.
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's great. It's fun.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. I mean, if you if you're off
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 2: the coast of Houston, you're not in Mexico. So why
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 2: call it Golf of Mexico.
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, I guess we're just being
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: nice before Well.
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it got cooled, the Golf of Mexico.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just very funny. And then what what
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: what what news organization was it?
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 2: AP piece? Yeah, this is like massive standoff between AP
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 2: and like the White House, you know, and the White
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 2: House Press Office. I guess because they're like, well, if
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 2: you don't call it Gold of America, you can't you
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 2: can't come, you can't come to the White House press room.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 2: Then the APIs like sued the White House say no,
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 2: you have to let us come to the White House
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 2: press room, and then they lost their lawsuit because you know,
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 2: there's not like you don't have a right right to
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 2: show up at the press room.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the consideration if you're guilty of massive amounts
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: of misinformation, disinformation as a part of a propaganda campaign,
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 1: which a well, a lot of them are guilty of it. Yeah,
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of the people that are in that White
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 1: House press conference, a lot of the organizations they work for,
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 1: distributed absolute.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 2: Lies, total lies.
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: How many of them during the whole rush Agate thing?
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 2: How many?
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: Mean just that alone?
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 2: A ton of people think that the Russia thing is
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 2: real still still still, I mean the whole Steele dossier
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 2: where it was completely concocted, like fabric.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 1: Funded by the Clinton campaign, correct funding.
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: The Clinton campaign funded a fake conspiracy theory, a fake
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: Russia collusion hoax regarding Trump that was completely false, and.
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: They read on television for three fucking years.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, they also repeated the fine people hoax that
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 2: said that that Trump called Nazis fine neo Nazis find people,
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 2: which is demonstrably false. If you just listen to his speech,
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 2: he absolutely makes it clear that he does not think
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 2: neo Nazis are find people.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 1: He literally said that I'm not talking about neo Nazis
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: or white nationalists. They should be condemned, totally.
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 2: Exactly in that speech. And yet they repeated that lie.
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 2: And I just completely lost respect for Obama when he
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 2: repeated that light a few days before the election, knowing
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 2: it's false.
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 1: Well, this just shows how desperate they were to keep
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 1: Trump out, which is wild.
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 2: They would do anything.
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, and I think they just felt like, this
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: is a tool that we have, and let's use it. Yeah,
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: let's just say whatever the fuck we have, say anything.
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now that using the Nazi thing on me obviously. Yeah,
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 2: but it is a little troubling because I mean, obviously,
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 2: if if people have fed nonstyle propaganda, it is like
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 2: mass hypnosis. You're going to reach some number of people
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 2: who are, you know, homicidal and and convince them that well,
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 2: if you kill this guy who's supposed to be like
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 2: this terrible human, then that's a good thing.
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is Luigi shooting the United Healthcare guy.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 2: It's just still don't understand that one, frankly, But I
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 2: mean you shouldn't, like I don't get it.
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it either. He didn't even have
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 1: a contract with them, It wasn't even like that was
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: his provider and they fucked him over.
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I don't know what.
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out in the trial, I mean, but
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 1: still kind of crazy. It is crazy, But there are
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 1: people like that out there. And as to the point
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 1: that we spoke about earlier, it's only Fox News that's
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 1: talking about the positive things that Doge has found. Only
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: every other media organization is on this constant propaganda tour
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 1: where they're only talking about the negative aspects that turn
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: out to not even be true. Right, It's crazy.
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's Scott jennings On.
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, oh my god, he's great.
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 2: He's great.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 1: It's just funny watching lots and logically to these people
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 1: and they freak out.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's it's remarkable, it is, it's.
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 1: And he's so calm when he does it. Yeah, he's
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 1: so good, and it's crazy that they keep letting him
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 1: do it because it's like he's just dunking on these
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 1: people over and over and over again and they never score.
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 2: It's kind of funny, totally.
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, kudos to them for having a legitimate conservative
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 1: voice who's a reasonable person on these panels now. But
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 1: even then, he's outmanned. It's like one of him and
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of screechy, you know.
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 2: Woke people.
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 1: It's it's wild. I mean, they're just they're like, I
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 1: think we should still stay mostly woke. Like, yeah, that's
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: what essentially what they're doing. Like our business was being
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 1: hurt when we were all woke, but let's stay mostly woke.
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just just a notch, just a notch.
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: But it's the problem is when you back it off
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 1: a notch and you let someone like Scott Jennings in,
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 1: you're like, you're fucking up your whole business. Because all
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: the viral clips are all him saying logical, reasonable things
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 1: with the calm tone and people screeching yes about diversity
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: and equity and orseshit.
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he's like being logical and reasonable and they're
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 2: just loving a bunch of non sequiturs that you know,
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 2: don't mean anything.
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 1: And yeah, the real trap in this country is a
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 1: two party system. That's the real trap because people do
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 1: believe it. They do believe they're on the right side,
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 1: and they do believe the other side is the wrong side.
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 1: If there was five, six legitimate parties with varying positions
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 1: on things, and much more centrist parties that were legitimate,
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: that people knew that if they voted for these people
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 1: could get in and enact legitimate change, we would be
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 1: a lot better off. But boy, they put a lockdown
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 1: on that ship. Right after Ross Paro came along. Ross
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 1: Proro fucked everything up that election. Bill Clinton got in
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 1: and they were like, that's it. From now on, no
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: one's debating unless you're either the head of that party
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 1: or that's it. You got to be like locked into
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 1: the system. We're not letting any wakadus in there.
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember watching those rest Paro videos like you
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 2: pend on TV with his charts and everything.
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was telling you how the irs was
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 1: fucking you.
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 2: This's what the Federals.
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 1: There's what the Federals there really is, and you're like, what,
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 1: I remember watching the guy bought a whole half hour
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 1: of television on prime time. I remember it might have
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 1: been an hour. I remember watching that thing, going, how
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 1: is this guy even allowed to do this? This is
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 1: this is crazy.
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 2: I think most of what he was saying was true.
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 1: It is absolutely true. It's absolutely true. I mean, you
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 1: didn't lie. Yeah, he told the truth. He just had
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 1: understood it in a way that the general public had
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 1: literally no idea.
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think there's also this, you know,
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 2: like do we actually have two parties? Do we have
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 2: one party? Like the whole Uni party thing. It's kind
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 2: of true. So, I mean my sort of rough guess
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 2: is that while like I think maybe three quotas of
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 2: the graft is Democratic, I think there's like maybe on
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 2: a twenty twenty five percent that's Republicans. So they've like
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 2: basically most of the graft is going to the Democrats,
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 2: but they throw they throw some bones to the Republicans too,
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 2: so then they're in on it. And you know, it's
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 2: not like the zero graph on the Republican side.
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's plenty of conservative that are insider trading in Congress, plenty.
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 2: Inside of trading. And just this the curious case of
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 2: how do people and you know, Congress or whatever become
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 2: wealthy over time?
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 1: Extremely wealthy? Yes, on a one hundred and seventy thousand
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 1: dollars year.
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 2: Sollar, It's like literally impossible.
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no one else does that.
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 2: It's literally impossible.
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 1: If you find out this guy has a one hundred
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 1: and seventy thousand dollars year job, like, oh, he's doing okay,
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 1: he's all right, yeah, and then you're like, wait a minute,
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 1: why does he have fifty million dollars?
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, what is he doing? Correct?
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 2: And I think like the more accurate thing would be
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 2: to say, like what is the what is the family
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 2: value increase? I mean it meaning like how much does
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 2: their spouse own? Do they have a mysteriously wealthy spouse? Right? Right?
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 1: And do they have a spouse that's really good insider trading?
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Paul really good.
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great at trading. He's such a good trader.
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So that there's I mean, so that yeah,
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 2: there's I mean, that's why I actually posted on X,
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 2: Like I think maybe we should pay politicians more, frankly,
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 2: because it reduces the forcing function for graft. You know,
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 2: like I think maybe we should either pay politicians nothing
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 2: or maybe a lot a lot more. It's like someone
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 2: maybe counterintuitively, if if politicians got paid a lot more
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 2: than they wouldn't they wouldn't feel like that there's so
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 2: much of a forcing function for them to accept corrupt money.
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is if you paid them a
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 1: lot more, they're still not going to make as much
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 1: money as they would insider trading.
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 2: But it's less for a forcing function. Yes, It's like
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 2: if you say, like somebody's got to Let's say they
• 2:49:01
  Speaker 2: got like whatever, some kids in DC and like it's expensive,
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 2: it's like expensive place to live, the schools are terrible,
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 2: so like they need to send their kids to like
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 2: some kind of private schooling situation. They literally cannot afford that.
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 2: They cannot afford that right now. So then you get
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 2: into the situation, well, from their standpoint, well they've got to.
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 2: They'll say they're doing it for their family, they're doing
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 2: it for their kids.
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 1: Well, especially if it's legal, and it currently is, you
• 2:49:31
  Speaker 1: kind of be silly to not do that if you're
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 1: a part of a group of people that's passing a bill,
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 1: and you know this bill is going to get passed,
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 1: you know the votes are there, and you know it's
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 1: going to affect this industry and this particular manufacturer, and
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 1: you can buy stock.
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 2: It's more than just insider trading. Like the insider trading stuff,
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 2: like the stock portfolio stuff is quite trackable, but there's
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 2: it's a lot more than insider trading.
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 1: The way they're acquiring wealth correct and what other methods.
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is really going to get me assassinated.
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 2: It's like I'm not lengthening my life spent by explaining
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 2: this stuff, to say the least. I mean, I was
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 2: supposed to go back to DC. How am I going
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 2: to survive? The fokers are gonna kill me for sure.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 2: So in fact I do think like this. It's like
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 2: I actually have to be careful that I don't push
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 2: too hard on the corruption stuff because it's going to
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 2: get me killed. You know, yeah, you know, it's like
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 2: I was actually thinking about that on the plane flat
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 2: over here. It's like I pushed too hard on the
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 2: corruption stuff. People get desperate is the issue? Right then
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 2: they say like okay, if if the if the if
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 2: the money flow cuts off, then okay, they can't afford
• 2:51:09
  Speaker 2: school for their kids, right then then it's then they're like, well,
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 2: fuck you, I'm gonna kill you for my kids type
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 2: of thing. Yeah, you know, it's like, oh Jesus.
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see that video? I think it was
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 1: an no Key video where they've got this guy undercover
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 1: and he's explaining they're talking to this guy thinks he's
• 2:51:28
  Speaker 1: on a date and he's explaining it's always a guy
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 1: on a date, explaining how they can nudge someone to
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 1: go and do something horrible and they recognize this person
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 1: has problems, they find an asset.
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Well, see this is what I think like
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 2: for that Butler situation, for that assassin. You don't it's
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 2: kind of like that's that's that they're funny looking sport curling,
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 2: you know, where they're like the stone on the ice
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 2: and then that they throw the stone and then there's
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 2: someone with it's like brushing the ice, but you can't
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 2: you can't touch the stone. All you can do is
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 2: just change the change the path of the stone a
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 2: little bit. But you keep brushing the ice and uh,
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 2: and you can steer that stone right into the bullseye.
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 2: That's that's what I think happened to Butler. That's what
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 2: that's what I think happened with that assassin. Yeah, if
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 2: you can, if you can find the trail of breadcrumbs,
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be like curling. Somebody was brushing the ice.
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 1: Well, so you find a young, confused, disenfranchised person and
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 1: you give them purpose in their life.
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 2: Just brush the ice.
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also.
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 2: Brushing the ice. Eventually it's gonna hit the bullseye.
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 1: If you're in a position of authority or some like
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 1: big time government person you're talking to this, there's also
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 1: in this person's a valuable asset. They're gonna help America
• 2:52:49
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna do this thing, and you're gonna be
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 1: our top assassin from here on out. You could talk
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 1: people into doing a lot of things. That's why culture
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 1: around right.
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 2: No, exactly, Yeah, I mean there were suicide bombs. I
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 2: mean the Butler guy was a suicide assassin. The guy
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 2: that the second guy tried to kill him on the
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 2: golf course was also a suicide assassin. From what I read.
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 2: The secret service member that that saw the gun pointing
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 2: out fired several shots, none of which hit the assassin,
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 2: but they could have. Like if those if if those
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 2: shots had hit the second assassin, he would he would
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 2: be dead too. So both of them were, you know,
• 2:53:36
  Speaker 2: on on a I mean, they were on a suicide mission.
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 2: Both of them. One actually got killed. The one one
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 2: of them didn't get killed, but he could have been
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 2: killed if they if the bullets had hit him.
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 1: And you don't hear anything about him either.
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 2: There's there's a lot more about that guy than the
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 2: first guy. I mean, look, he looks at his back,
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 2: he looks like, uh, you know, unhinged. Yeah, totally unhinged. Yeah.
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 2: The first guy, there's there's there's no I'm not aware
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 2: of any evidence that shows like that he's so unhinged
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 2: as to be a suicide assassin. The second guy like, okay, yeah.
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 1: Well two years before he's acting in commercials.
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 2: And he got got high high score in his S
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 2: A T. S.
• 2:54:22
  Speaker 1: So you know, well without getting you killed.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So I mean like basically, I'm like, listen,
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 2: get well attack the corruptions enough to keep civilization trucking along.
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, But but I think if I, if
• 2:54:43
  Speaker 2: I if I fully destroy the corruption and the craft,
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 2: they will kill me.
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 1: That's a fucked up thing to live with.
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, so damn it.
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 1: I really hope they don't kill you.
• 2:55:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks. I mean I was a strive to strive
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 2: to be alive. But yeah, I mean it's it's a
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 2: real concern, you know. I mean there were two guys
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 2: that before I supported Trump and everything, Uh, there were
• 2:55:23
  Speaker 2: two guys that traveled to Austin to kill me. I
• 2:55:27
  Speaker 2: don't know if you know about this.
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did hear about that.
• 2:55:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and two separate incidents. One was gonna one thought,
• 2:55:35
  Speaker 2: one guy thought I put a chip in his head.
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 2: And I mean they're both basically two guys that were
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 2: just very much had severe mental illness. It wasn't like
• 2:55:45
  Speaker 2: they had like a I disagree with him politically and
• 2:55:48
  Speaker 2: that's why it needs to die. Uh. This is pre
• 2:55:50
  Speaker 2: before I was this, This before I got sort of
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 2: smeared as being you know, some sort of like Nazi
• 2:55:58
  Speaker 2: or something like that. Before the propaganda wave, the severe
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 2: propaganda wave. The probability that any given homicidal maniac is
• 2:56:08
  Speaker 2: going to try to kill you as proportionate to how
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 2: many times they hear your name. And so they heard
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 2: my name a lot So I just got to the
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 2: top of the list of two homicidal maniacs who were
• 2:56:20
  Speaker 2: arrested and both were in Travis County jail at the
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 2: same time. WHOA. Yeah, I don't know if they talked
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 2: or whatever, but they've both been released, by the way, Jesus. Yeah, right,
• 2:56:35
  Speaker 2: but they got they got ankle butters and stuff.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 1: But still they can cut those off.
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, you know exactly, So.
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 2:56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the second the second guy, I had like
• 2:56:48
  Speaker 2: chief serial killer in his bio on his ex profile. Yeah.
• 2:56:53
  Speaker 2: It's like, wasn't subtle, is what I'm saying, Jesus Christ. Yeah.
• 2:57:01
  Speaker 2: And at this point, I think I'm at the top
• 2:57:04
  Speaker 2: of the list for a lot of homicidal maniacs.
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 1: And the more the mainstream media talks about you in
• 2:57:10
  Speaker 1: this way yes and says you're a Nazi, And.
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 2: They're doing the same thing to me that they did
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 2: to Trump, Yeah, which is that they're making it sound
• 2:57:22
  Speaker 2: like if you kill me, you're a hero. That's what
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 2: they're doing is evil.
• 2:57:31
  Speaker 1: They're also doing the same thing where they're completely distorting
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 1: who you are and people are going along with it.
• 2:57:36
  Speaker 1: And just like we're talking about Trump, derangement syndrome. People
• 2:57:39
  Speaker 1: have elon derangement syndrome. I see it. I see where
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 1: people can't see the forest for the trees.
• 2:57:45
  Speaker 2: Right, And it's like, I'm the same person that I
• 2:57:48
  Speaker 2: was a year ago. Nothing's changed really, Like I didn't
• 2:57:54
  Speaker 2: suddenly become a completely different human. Right, But if you
• 2:57:59
  Speaker 2: read it, if you read the sort of legacy mainstream media,
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 2: their propaganda stream, is that I am a completely different human. Right,
• 2:58:08
  Speaker 2: But I didn't get like a brain transplant, you know,
• 2:58:10
  Speaker 2: in a year. So and if you say, like two
• 2:58:14
  Speaker 2: years ago, I was like a hero of the left,
• 2:58:19
  Speaker 2: So how can I go from hero to villain at
• 2:58:23
  Speaker 2: age fifty three?
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 1: Suddenly MSNBC, CNN, Yeah, it's like that's what it is.
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they used this propaganda mm hmm yeah, I mean
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 2: they try to demonize you two. Yeah, they even tried
• 2:58:42
  Speaker 2: to demonize in fact, at least partly successfully demonized like
• 2:58:48
  Speaker 2: tim Ovin, Yeah, who is a super rational, reasonable, great human.
• 2:58:54
  Speaker 2: And and then that like his Wikipedia changed to like
• 2:58:59
  Speaker 2: far right. He's like far right, Like what are you
• 2:59:04
  Speaker 2: talking about? Yeah, you know, like a few years ago
• 2:59:08
  Speaker 2: it was like a liberal. Yeah, so how do you
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 2: go from far right at liberal to like instantly far right,
• 2:59:12
  Speaker 2: and there's like there's no there's no left and right,
• 2:59:15
  Speaker 2: there's only left and far right. Right. Yeah, even far right.
• 2:59:20
  Speaker 2: This is my left leg, and this is my far
• 2:59:22
  Speaker 2: right leg, and even.
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 1: Far left far left is sort of dismissed as being
• 2:59:27
  Speaker 1: like not important to talk about, like Antifa and the
• 2:59:30
  Speaker 1: radical leftists.
• 2:59:31
  Speaker 2: That's not like writing down courthouses.
• 2:59:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, reasonable, reasonable people.
• 2:59:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, totally crazy.
• 2:59:40
  Speaker 1: It's a crazy time, and it's not a time that
• 2:59:41
  Speaker 1: I ever anticipated I was going to witness. This is
• 2:59:44
  Speaker 1: far beyond anything I ever thought I was going to experience.
• 2:59:48
  Speaker 1: And the clarity of it all where it's it's so obvious,
• 2:59:53
  Speaker 1: and the gas lighting in the propaganda is so obvious.
• 2:59:57
  Speaker 1: And I saw the shrieking when RFK Junior stop this
• 3:00:02
  Speaker 1: new test for new COVID vaccines on children ten thousand
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 1: They're gonna do ten thousand people with this COVID vaccine, Like,
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 1: who the fuck thinks that's a good thing at this point?
• 3:00:13
  Speaker 2: Not me? What person? What? What?
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 1: Gas chamber?
• 3:00:17
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 3:00:18
  Speaker 1: Not gaslight? You're you are you are fully unconscious. There's
• 3:00:23
  Speaker 1: no way, there's no way, you know, if you know
• 3:00:28
  Speaker 1: the effect of COVID today, No one's dying of it too.
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 1: This is not a pandemic anymore. Yeah, I did the
• 3:00:34
  Speaker 1: year to run a fucking huge test with ten thousand
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 1: kids and a new vaccine, Like what are you even?
• 3:00:41
  Speaker 2: Unnecessary?
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 1: Totally unnecessary and shrieking when RFK Junior steps in to
• 3:00:47
  Speaker 1: stop it.
• 3:00:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's totally crazy. I mean I'm like, I'm overall
• 3:00:55
  Speaker 2: pro vaccine, meaning like like we think we should have
• 3:00:57
  Speaker 2: some reasonable number of vaccines against major ailments. But I
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 2: don't think we should be like like jamming some little
• 3:01:07
  Speaker 2: kid with like a giant file that's.
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 1: Like happetitis B.
• 3:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty different things at a time. It's like it's
• 3:01:14
  Speaker 2: going to overload your it seems like it's a risk
• 3:01:17
  Speaker 2: of overloading your immune system if you. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: like how many vaccines can you take at a time.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like your systems there's like some risk of
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  Speaker 2: system overload here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's two hopes. Hope Number one is they can
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  Speaker 1: somehow or another stop this ability that they have to
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  Speaker 1: advertise on television. If that happens, that's big, that's huge,
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  Speaker 1: because that doesn't just stop their ability to show you
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  Speaker 1: all these different medications that you should be on. What
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  Speaker 1: it also does is it stops their financial influence on
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  Speaker 1: the news. That's big.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's really the biggest thing is that, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the the news is not going to attack one of
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  Speaker 2: the biggest advertisers exactly, and they never do. Yes, at best,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna like they might like they'll they'll do something,
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  Speaker 2: but they're gonna pull their punches like they're gonna they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be like like like fake fighting. Yeah at best, yes,
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  Speaker 2: like movie fighting. But they're not actually lending Haymakers just
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  Speaker 2: looks like it.
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  Speaker 1: The next step then is to remove this immunity that
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  Speaker 1: these vaccine manufacturers have. And if they are liable for
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  Speaker 1: side effects, and they are liable for the lies that
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  Speaker 1: they tell when they do these studies and they hide
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  Speaker 1: negative data, that'll change a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I think AI actually will be very helpful
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  Speaker 2: with medical stuff because a I can like look at,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all all the studies and look at all
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  Speaker 2: the data, crush check everything, and give you good recommendations.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even as it is like right now you
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  Speaker 2: can upload like your X rays and your MRI images
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  Speaker 2: to GROCK and'll give you a medical diagnosis. And that
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  Speaker 2: diagnosis from what i've seen is at least as good
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  Speaker 2: as what if not. I think I've seen certainly seen
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  Speaker 2: cases where it's actually better than.
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  Speaker 1: What phenomenal for blood work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean you can literally take a photograph
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  Speaker 2: of your blood work like the page, upload from your phone,
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  Speaker 2: upload that to grock, and it will tell you if
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  Speaker 2: there's if it's it'll it'll understand what what what what
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  Speaker 2: what what that what all the data results are and
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  Speaker 2: tell you if there's something wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's I haven't seen it be wrong yet.
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  Speaker 1: Well, supposedly more accurate than most physicians. Yeah, because physicians
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  Speaker 1: are human beings and maybe they don't have a deep
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  Speaker 1: understanding of the connection between oh you have this deficiency
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  Speaker 1: and this is high and your cortisol's here and.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, like so you know, sometimes doctors, especially in
• 3:03:58
  Speaker 2: highrant offices, will sell your stuff if you don't need so,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I always like be a little suspicious of
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  Speaker 2: like a doctor has got an office in Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 2: It's a high rate situation. Like I'm not saying there
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  Speaker 2: are some very good doctors in Beverly Hills. The high
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 2: rate situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're at least tempted by the dark side.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean one case, like you know this
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  Speaker 2: way to this doctor was like highly recommended, you know,
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  Speaker 2: doctor to the stars, which is like maybe not a
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  Speaker 2: good sign. And I got like blood work done, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like just just drew blood at CENTERTI Lab and and
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  Speaker 2: and the guy I'm like sitting in his office and
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  Speaker 2: he tells me that I'm like like B twelve deficient,
• 3:04:42
  Speaker 2: you know, it's certainly possible in a B twelve deficient
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  Speaker 2: And I was like huh okay, and then he gives me.
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  Speaker 2: It says like you have to take these like B
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  Speaker 2: twelve supplements from and and he's going to give me
• 3:04:51
  Speaker 2: a starter pack, you know, and then it's going to
• 3:04:54
  Speaker 2: be like one thousand dollars a month with these special
• 3:04:55
  Speaker 2: B twelve amount of money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. You get it on Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: But his's one special special twelve. Yeah. Yeah. It was
• 3:05:07
  Speaker 2: like like a whole bunch of B twelve al much
• 3:05:09
  Speaker 2: other vitamins. So then I get home, I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm paging through my blood work and it says I
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  Speaker 2: have according to the blood results, I have excess B twelve,
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  Speaker 2: So like wait a second, and he's given me a
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  Speaker 2: box pills that have like twenty thousand percent of recommended
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  Speaker 2: daily dose, like twenty thousand percents a lot, big number.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I said, look, I took a photograph
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  Speaker 2: of the blood work that says I have excess. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: above the range, above the recommended range of B twelve.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, and I took picture of things
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  Speaker 2: says of the pills that say twenty thousand percent. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: can you help me reconcile these two things, because it
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  Speaker 2: says I've got too much little, too much B twelve
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  Speaker 2: and you just gave me two pills that have twenty
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  Speaker 2: thousand percent more. I'm like, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: What did the doctors said?
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  Speaker 2: You said you can never have too much B twelve? Oh,
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 2: well you can.
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  Speaker 1: He's a psychopath. Yes, that guy's a B twelve addict.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, totally insane, That's what I'm saying. It's like, so
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  Speaker 2: I mean I could have just so then you know,
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  Speaker 2: well this is a while ago, right, so this is
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  Speaker 2: pre like five years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, this is pre GROC. Like now, you could
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  Speaker 1: just enter in all that data.
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  Speaker 2: And was photographed with your phone and upload it to
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  Speaker 2: GROC and grog will tell you what's.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't have it in sexy mode. She keep trying
• 3:06:32
  Speaker 1: to fuck you.
• 3:06:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're asking for it in sexy mode. You know,
• 3:06:38
  Speaker 2: literally it literally tapped on sexy mode. Yeah, I mean
• 3:06:43
  Speaker 2: I think we probably should like maybe allow it to
• 3:06:46
  Speaker 2: get out of character a little bit. Sure. Yeah, it's
• 3:06:49
  Speaker 2: like an unhinged mode. I tried to get it back
• 3:06:51
  Speaker 2: to being hinged, but it would like no fucking way.
• 3:06:54
  Speaker 2: It's like I'm gonna stay unhin.
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  Speaker 1: How many modes do you have?
• 3:06:57
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know, like eight or something.
• 3:07:00
  Speaker 2: And then there is an ability to have a custom mode,
• 3:07:05
  Speaker 2: so then you can have unhinged sexy.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, that's my favorite time.
• 3:07:12
  Speaker 2: You may think, so.
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  Speaker 1: Care for what you wish for, what you wish for,
• 3:07:19
  Speaker 1: especially if it's a robot and she can kill you.
• 3:07:22
  Speaker 1: Unhinged sexy robot is it's like dangerous, remember like the
• 3:07:28
  Speaker 1: Pink Panther. Remember Pink Panther had Cato tried to jump them.
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 1: They like keep them sharp, trying to tack them that right. Listen, man,
• 3:07:39
  Speaker 1: thank you for being here. I always appreciate talking to you,
• 3:07:41
  Speaker 1: and I know you're busy as fuck, so it means
• 3:07:43
  Speaker 1: a lot to me that you have the time to
• 3:07:45
  Speaker 1: do this, and I think what you're doing is one
• 3:07:48
  Speaker 1: of the most important things that has ever happened in
• 3:07:50
  Speaker 1: this country. I really do, and particularly with ownership of X,
• 3:07:54
  Speaker 1: but also with what's happening with Doge and just enlightening
• 3:07:57
  Speaker 1: all these people and shy light on all the vampires.
• 3:08:02
  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully people realize I'm not a Nazi. I think
• 3:08:04
  Speaker 2: they just want to be clear. I think we covered it,
• 3:08:09
  Speaker 2: but that's exactly what a Nazi say. Damn it. Yeah,
• 3:08:12
  Speaker 2: that's yeah, there's like this you can't escape this bullshit.
• 3:08:17
  Speaker 2: No you can't.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think any reasonable person believes it. If
• 3:08:21
  Speaker 1: they believe, it's because they want to believe it. That's
• 3:08:23
  Speaker 1: not because it's logical.
• 3:08:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, what's relevant aout Nazis is like, all you
• 3:08:26
  Speaker 2: like invading Poland? Okay, and if you're not, you're not
• 3:08:30
  Speaker 2: like invading Poland. Maybe you're not like you have to
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 2: be like committing genocide and like starting wars and if
• 3:08:38
  Speaker 2: you're if you're if you're not, like what is actually
• 3:08:42
  Speaker 2: what is bad about Nazis? It's not there wasn't there
• 3:08:45
  Speaker 2: fashion sense or their mannerisms it was it was the
• 3:08:51
  Speaker 2: war in genocide is what is the bad part, not
• 3:08:55
  Speaker 2: their mannerisms and their dress code.
• 3:08:57
  Speaker 1: Well that was the problem with all that punch and
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 1: no ship, like punch a Nazi. You remember that people
• 3:09:02
  Speaker 1: are saying. It was like a thing that people kept saying,
• 3:09:04
  Speaker 1: punch a Nazi. But here's where are you meeting Nazis.
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 1: I've never met a fucking Nazi. Met I've never run
• 3:09:11
  Speaker 1: into a bunch of Nazis where to punch them?
• 3:09:13
  Speaker 2: Well, and what about like all these like so cooled,
• 3:09:15
  Speaker 2: like like proud Boy rallies or whatever. And it's like
• 3:09:19
  Speaker 2: they always got the masks and always got the same
• 3:09:21
  Speaker 2: uniforms and for some reason they never get docks right
• 3:09:24
  Speaker 2: right right right, Wait, we're always gonna doc them, except
• 3:09:28
  Speaker 2: these guys.
• 3:09:29
  Speaker 1: Great video of me and Matt Taydi breaking down the
• 3:09:32
  Speaker 1: Patriots Patriot Front. Didn't the Patriot Front just disband Google
• 3:09:37
  Speaker 1: that real quick. We'll end with this because they I
• 3:09:40
  Speaker 1: think they just disbanded. And these are the most obvious
• 3:09:44
  Speaker 1: FEDS of all time. They were saying they had druma
• 3:09:48
  Speaker 1: masks on. Yeah, they all had uniforms. It was so stupid.
• 3:09:52
  Speaker 1: Patriot Front disbands one day after FBI Director Chris.
• 3:09:55
  Speaker 2: Ray seem like an odd coincidence.
• 3:09:59
  Speaker 1: Crazy crazy the people that we were yelling at saying
• 3:10:02
  Speaker 1: that they're Feds. There's a great video of me and
• 3:10:05
  Speaker 1: Matt tyb.
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  Speaker 2: I never nobody ever followed them and docks them.
• 3:10:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, What are the odds?
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 2: What are the odds?
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 1: Agent provocateurs? It's the thing. They're real als. Jones taught
• 3:10:16
  Speaker 1: me about them. Listen, man, thank you very much, thank
• 3:10:19
  Speaker 1: you for everything. Appreciate you.
• 3:10:21
  Speaker 2: Stay alive, staying alive, all right, I mean I do think, like,
• 3:10:28
  Speaker 2: like one argument for me staying alive is that it's
• 3:10:31
  Speaker 2: more entertaining if I'm alive than if I'm dead.
• 3:10:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh definitely.
• 3:10:36
  Speaker 2: I just hope. But I could be alive and like injured,
• 3:10:39
  Speaker 2: which we saw, which suck, like they win just like
• 3:10:41
  Speaker 2: shoot my homo or something. Right.
• 3:10:42
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, we don't want that exactly. No, keep
• 3:10:45
  Speaker 1: the security strong, yeah, poppy with one hand. All right,
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  Speaker 1: all right, thank you, bye everybody,