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Don't Put Second Things First · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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You're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show. Monday morning, twenty second day
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of April. I'm Wes, thanks for joining me. Had a good weekend.
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Got to catch up with doctor John Hood, who may have seen a
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story or two about him on the news. It's a very distinguished member of
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the astrophysics community who you know, went to Columbus State, did some work
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at the Cocola Space Science Center in a number of capacities, and went on
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to you know, do a bunch of big things in the astrophysics world,
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including doing some time at the South Pole, and had a good time.
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Now, John and I had only met in the throws of doing interviews,
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or not really necessarily interviews, but doing broadcasts. We did some webcasts together,
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me and a few of the other alum from both Columbus State and the
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Coca Cola Space Science Center, and John and I a a number a couple
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of events that we covered while we were doing those live streams. So this
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was really the first time he and I had met in person, face to
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face, and it was good to finally do that and just great to hear
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him talk about his experiences and getting to hear my good friend, doctor Sean
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Cruzin, who is of course one of doctor Hood's former professors who actually talked
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him into taking this particular course of study that has led to his career,
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and he talked about that. But it was nice. Sean has talked about
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a number of his alum on our Native Stars podcast, but just seeing him
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watching John speak and then getting to see and hear them talk about each other
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and their relationship, their friendship and the mentor mentee relationship that's blossomed now into
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this friendship is colleagues. It was just a great experience there and really a
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great chance to hear John talk and tell his stories. Makes me really want
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to go to the South Pole, you know, if you've got connections,
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if you know somebody that has one of those South Pole planes, by all
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means let me know. Also, while I was there, and this will
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eventually lead me into my topic this week, But while I was there,
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I also got to see and catch up with a friend Colin, who is
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an avid listener of the show. Hi Colin, all of the shows and
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one of our supporters, and I appreciate him very much for that and Colin
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was there to hear John Speed as well, and he gave me a little
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ribbing for something. And I know now he's probably going to oh but understandably,
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and I feel a little bit of a need to explain it only because
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I'm going to talk about a similar topic today or something that touches in all
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of this. And I don't remember the specific show. I remember roughly when
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I was doing it, and I remember trying very carefully to get through the
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cow pasture without stepping in anything. And apparently at the very least I stepped
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in enough of something for Colin to RaSE me about it a little bit at
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the Cocola Space Science Center. But it was in the topic of religion and
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faith, and I talk about that sometimes when it's on my heart. I
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think that that is one of the evangelical sides of my faith. I'm not
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a door to door evangelical. I am not, and God bless them the
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people that are, hey, you do your thing. I saw the guy,
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and I know people have seen him around town. He drives a truck,
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He waves bibles out the window, holds coke cans out the window.
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That is how he is an evangelical and God bless him if that's what he's
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gonna do. You do your thing when you cross certain lines. I'm not
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really a big fan of the shouting down people in the streets. Not so
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much that I don't want I don't think you should make people uncomfortable. I
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don't necessarily want that, not that there's not elements of that, because believe
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me that that kind of ties into what I'm gonna talk about, and believe
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me, I understand there is some value in that. But at the same
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time, you be the kind of evangelical you think you're called to be.
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I believe that when when when when God puts it on me to speak about
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something that I've experienced, I think it's my job to do it. And
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when someone approaches me and asks me questions about things relating to my faith,
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I feel like that's the opportunity. Like I'm not going to force it on
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you, but I do feel like I need to be prepared when someone approaches
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me. So and that's kind of what we're going to do this week about
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something that happened with me relating and it was just an interesting series of things.
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And I can assure Colin right now, who I know is listening.
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This isn't one of those things where because you said it, I thought,
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well, I've got to talk about this. It was just kind of on
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my mind. And then yesterday morning at church, a couple of things came
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up and I thought, Wow, this is going to be one of those
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deals that's going to roll over into the Monday show. And I can feel
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it. And it's not a coincidence that Colin and I had this conversation.
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And then on top of all that, and Colin will understand this, because
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he and I were discussing C. S. Lewis's Mere Christianity that he's currently
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reading. I read it in high school, and I guess now I need
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to pick it up and read it again. But we had a C.
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S. Lewis quote in our service yesterday and I thought, okay, well,
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now all signs are pointing to at least be addressing this in some capacity.
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And Colin may know better than me exactly what I said that he was
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rausing me about. And I'll just just to be clear on a couple of
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things. I grew up in what would be considered, I guess, the
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typical sort of Southern Baptist home that was my upbringing. I attended a school
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that was based out of a Southern Baptist church, and at least for my
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high school years what we then called junior high high school years, and there
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was often discussions about some of the differences between different religions, and there was
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often discussion about even the differences between different denominations, and there were discussions about
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the Catholic Church versus the Protestant churches. So that's probably some of that programming
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is definitely in my head somewhere. And I also have a number of friends
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that are I can think right now off the top of my head, also
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listeners, both of them that it's a couple. One of them, I
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guess raised Catholic, one of them raised Protestant, And sometimes I think of
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them even when I'm discussing some of the things that I talk about as it
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pertains to faith, because I try to think specifically, and I'll be thinking
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about Colin anytime anything Catholic comes up, certainly, but trying to elaborate a
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little bit on something as it pertained too and I think I was talking about
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abortion. It may have been something else, but our president, who himself
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professes to be a Catholic and has his sort of political views that I think
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he pushes out in front of his religion, his Christianity. I think that's
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what I was trying to talk about and trying to make distinguishing. Trying to
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distinguish, I guess between what is sort of the traditional Catholic views on certain
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things like birth control versus there's a different denominations in the rest of the Christian
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spectrum. I hope I'm doing this better Colin than I did before, but
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I certainly something I felt like I stepped in. I tried to clarify it
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almost separating the Catholic Church from Christianity, and that's not what I meant,
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and that's not what I was going for, certainly not. I do believe
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there are a few denominations that profess to be under the Christian flag, and
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I don't know that they necessarily belong, but that's my belief on those and
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I'm not going to say which ones those are. But I absolutely put the
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Catholic Church under Christianity, and I would never separate that in any way.
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Not now. Maybe I would have been asked to do that when I was
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in high school, but that's another story. Altogether. So on that subject
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and what I want to talk about, because yesterday's sermon at church was on
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the Beatitudes and we had a discussion on well, really we sort of went
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through all of them, but we were specifically spotlighting verse nine, and that
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relates to the peacemakers. Being someone who talks for a living, and I'm
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gonna tell and I'm all about I think that I don't typically read the King
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James Bible. I have an appreciation for the way that it's written, the
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beauty of the language, but I'm not really a you know, Shakespeare for
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me. When I when I read Shakespeare, sometimes I'm just going, all
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right, I could say this in fewer words. There's a word economy thing
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that radio people or broadcasters do where we look at something that's written in a
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hundred words and we go I could say this in about fifteen. And sometimes
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if I'm reading any sort of Old English, that will in my head that's
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what I'm doing. I'm just giving you an understanding of what I try to
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do sometimes on the fly. And that's why sometimes I might trip over something.
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It's because many times I'm editing as I'm speaking in my head. Even
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things that I've planned out even things that I have some sort of a rough
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outline type script for even that I say, how can I edit this down?
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As I'm spending a lot more time talking about editing it down than you
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know. In my head, I'm already going, you've already said too much
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anyway. And I say that because the word blessed as it's written blessed as
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it's often you know, said from the text, but just referencing how the
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blessed of the peacemakers, or the blessed or the blessings, how about that
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of the peacemakers, Not that I'm trying to rewrite anything, so and basically
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what that means to be a peacemaker, what that means from a faith aspect,
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and what I think it should mean for us as Americans who are fall
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under the Christian umbrella. And this is where I start to have a little
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bit of difficulty with some of our churches. And again I'm not going to
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name specific names on churches or any sort of denomination. I'm just looking at
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certain people that I feel like. And this goes back to our president,
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It goes back to a number of leaders. We have a minister who is
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also a senator here in Georgia. And you know, and I often joke
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and I'll say, you know, Reverend Erkele or Senator Erkele or whatever,
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but you know, just in kind of a slightly more serious I don't know,
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I'll probably call them that anyway, but a little bit more serious topic,
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because I do feel like we have this unfortunate thing that we do where
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we push our faith into the second spot. It becomes the second most important
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thing. And it because we put our politics in the in the top spot.
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We put our political leanings as a priority over what our faith should be
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telling us and what our faith should be guiding us for things. And there's
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a few of these things that we do. And I'm not going to just
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I'm not going to say that abortion is the only issue, but abortion should
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be a great example of one of these issues, especially when you start talking
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about a Catholic president who doesn't want to. I mean, this is going
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to be the entire campaign, and it may very well be what ultimately decides
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the election. It may ultimately be the very thing that decides the election.
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It's going to be the focus. And now we've had in Arizona this decision
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that's been made and now Democrats are really starting to jump on it, but
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on issues of race, on issues of concerning specifically the police or crime,
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the way that things Because going back to this reference to peacemakers being blessed,
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and that means being active. This was part of the message yesterday at my
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church, and it's about being active. This isn't just about being a peacemaker.
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Someone who just kind of sits back and watches the fight. That's not
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a peacemaker, you know. That's just basically someone who's being a different participant
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by just watching it but actually trying to instigate or create peace for the purposes
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of And in this example I'm talking And again I try to distinguish because I
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do think there is a difference between my faith as an American and what drives
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me and my political views versus the guidelines, the constitution, the intent of
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what our country is. And I understand I can't think that my faith has
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to drive everyone else's decision. That's not the way that they wanted it to
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work. So there is a difference there. But if I don't, as
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a member of the Christian faith, put my faith first and let that guide
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what is ultimately then second, which would be my political views. And if
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that's even second, we have this very warped thing that we do with our
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politics. We make it the most important thing. And if we're doing that,
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if we're putting our politics ahead of our faith. I did a whole
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show on this a couple of months ago, we're doing it wrong. This
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should not be the thing that you can't take your politics and then shape your
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religion to your politics. This is where the problem comes in. And when
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you start talking about issues where we're trying to make peace, and I mentioned
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race is one of those issues where we've had obviously horrible things have had happen
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with the police, and we take that and we turn that into how do
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we use this politically? We're not actively looking for ways to truly create peace
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in that situation. We're not looking for ways to say, look, there's
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a long history here, but how do you really approach making peace between groups
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or you know, across the country nationwide. It takes really putting some things
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aside. That's ultimately the beginning of a peace talk, isn't it. I
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know, it's when you talk about something that's centuries old. This isn't easy
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and you can't magically just make it happen. But I'm talking about what the
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desire of the church should be, what the desire of Christians should be in
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our nation. That's what the desire should be. Churches shouldn't be a place
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it's a breeding ground for political strife. That's going against the message, that's
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going against the intention. If it it's just about creating more strife to help
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someone get elected so that Reverend Erkele can get Ultimately, that's doing it wrong
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and that's not what the intention is. And I say that about the prioritizing,
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and again it's just it's a funny coincidence that Colin and I were talking
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about C. S. Lewis because the CS Lewis quote from church yesterday was
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that I want to get the full it's because it came in a letter that
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he wrote in nineteen fifty one, and I want to get the exact quote.
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All right, here we go, because I had a paraphrase here and
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I don't want to do the paraphrase. I want to go with the quote
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he said. Apparently the world has made that way. You can't get second
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things by putting them first. You can get second things only by putting first
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things first. And that really ties into what I'm talking about. How can
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we prioritize our politics, because that's what we're being told to do, and
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we're being told there's no value in the church anymore. We're being told that
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the church needs to be secondary, and it can't be our priority if we
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make it secondary, if we make politics the most important thing. So I
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guess that's my challenge to anyone who maybe they're struggling with something and they know
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that they need to be more active as far as their faith and their politics,
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just start thinking some of those things through. Are you putting the politics
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ahead of your religion? If so, and I've said this before, but
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O dccolumbus dot com More West Carol Morning Show. Right after the break,
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Civil War topped the box office for the weekend eleven point one million, followed
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by Abigail, Godzilla, X Kong, The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, and
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Spy X Family Code White. A lot of x'es in the movies right now,
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close though with Abigail anew this was the second week in a war in
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a row for a Civil War, and we're kind of at that point in
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the year. We haven't quite gotten to the big blockbusters. Yet the big
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blockbuster period which will kick in next month. Really, but anyway, that's
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a rundown on where things are. I still don't quite know how I feel
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about Civil War, and I don't plan to go see it. At some
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point, I guess it'll end up on a streaming service that I have or
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whatever, and I'll have an opportunity to see it. I just I think
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that people, and I guess it's supposed to scare us about apostible, if
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that could be. But when I hear people talk about, oh, there
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could be a civil war in the US, and I think, my gosh,
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why doesn't that terrify you? It should absolutely scare the absolute solid waste
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out of you. That's what it should do. And if it doesn't,
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then something's wrong, right, There's just something that is wrong. A lot
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of talk about Caitlin Clark, the basketball player, and what will be her
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salary in the WNBA. Well, for those that were concerned, and I
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understand that that's a whole I'm not going to do a whole discussion on the
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WNBA how much it profits versus which I don't think it does. I think
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I don't even know if it's at a point where it's in the black,
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I think it may still be in the red as a company versus the NBA.
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I mean, there's just a difference. We've talked about this when it
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comes to soccer and the soccer players, and there's just a difference. There's
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a revenue difference. I don't know how long that will be the case,
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but I suspect it will be for some time. But anyway, as far
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as WNBA versus NBA, I think that that may. I feel like we're
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not going to start getting similar profits anytime soon. But if you're concerned about
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Caitlin Clark and how much she's not making as a basketball player, just know
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that Nike has jumped in and there is an eight figure contract that deal that
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she should be if she hasn't all ready, I guess talks about her signing
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it over the weekend. We're being discussed, but a signature shoe. She's
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gonna do alright. It sounds like she's gonna be okay, you know,
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with an eight figure deal. I think she'll be all right. I think
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that that's going to manage. And I know, I get it, she
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should make more salary wise, I understand why people are saying that without going
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into that whole discussion of people just don't go to games like they do to
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NBA games. But I can tell you this, I went to the exact
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same number of WNBA and NBA games in the last I don't know, ten
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years. So there's that, all right. Hugs. You know, I'm
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hug don't even have to come from a human. They can come from a
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to come from their parents to be beneficial. But when it comes from adults,
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you know the the robots are coming, I guess there'll be some benefit,
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you know, some of that I don't know some positives to the robots coming.
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if you got silver? What does that mean? Does that say anything?
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