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12-26-25 Hour 3 - Chad Brown is Here!/The Cam Johnson Dilemma/Lucky Louie LAYS IT DOWN · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Moser, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: good buddy, Chad Brown. Good morning, Chad, Merry Christmas. How
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  Speaker 2: is your holiday?
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  Speaker 3: Good morning fellas, make Christmas back to you as well.
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  Speaker 3: Christmas was great and we got treated to another Bronco
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  Speaker 3: Improbable feeling slightly underperforming, but got the job done.
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  Speaker 4: Victory, all right, all right, right, time out. I love
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  Speaker 4: my life and I've loved my life. There are times
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  Speaker 4: when I want to be Chad Brown, though. Today's one
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  Speaker 4: of those days. Look at him, Look at the cactus
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  Speaker 4: behind him. It's probably gonna be like eighty. He's gonna
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  Speaker 4: hit the ball or whatever he's gonna do, go for
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  Speaker 4: a walk with the dog and the family and whatnot.
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  Speaker 4: You're one of I'm gonna compliment you first and then
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  Speaker 4: we're going to go at it. You're one of the nicest, smartest,
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  Speaker 4: baddest asses. I've ever met my entire life period in
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  Speaker 4: of story. But if you come on this program today
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  Speaker 4: and tell me and light on my face that you're
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  Speaker 4: satisfied with what you saw yesterday out of the Denver Broncos,
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  Speaker 4: I can't even do it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we'll see how this lands on you.
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  Speaker 5: Mark.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to shift my perspective on the Broncos from
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  Speaker 3: the standard that I expect them to reach weekend and
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  Speaker 3: week out in my mind, because the record says they
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  Speaker 3: are a great team. But but what I see says, well,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to beat a good
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  Speaker 3: team in the playoff if you play down to the
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  Speaker 3: level of the Chiefs with a third strink quarterback. You're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna go on a deep playoff run if you
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  Speaker 3: only beat the Raiders by one score twice this year,
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  Speaker 3: as awful as the Raiders are. But so that's where
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  Speaker 3: this is where the butt comes in. Mark, the I
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  Speaker 3: think Sean Payton is not trying to do things to
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  Speaker 3: our standards. He's trying to find a way to win
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  Speaker 3: each game and rather than it's got to somehow win
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  Speaker 3: a beauty contest and it's got to somehow be thirty
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  Speaker 3: five points plus on offense and defense needs to hold
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  Speaker 3: him to ten points are under. It's just how do
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  Speaker 3: we win a game? How do we win a game?
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  Speaker 3: And so I played for a coach in Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 3: who played that style. Every week was different. There was
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  Speaker 3: no set standard. The only standard was finding a way
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  Speaker 3: to win. So I'm trying to view the Broncos through
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  Speaker 3: that lens mos rather than this arbitrary standard that they
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  Speaker 3: need to do this on offense and do this on
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  Speaker 3: defense to meet the standard. In my mind, and so
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  Speaker 3: if I look at it through that lens, it becomes
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  Speaker 3: more impressive and it becomes more sustainable. So I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure if this is me, I don't know, invoking some
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  Speaker 3: Christmas spirit and buying it to the Broncos, or if
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  Speaker 3: this is just legitimately how this team operates and how
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton is operating. I guess we'll find out. And
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be another game for the Chargers
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  Speaker 3: going up against the Texans. We saw the Broncos barely
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  Speaker 3: beat the Texans and barely beat the Texans with a
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  Speaker 3: backup quarterback. What if the Chargers put up thirty five
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  Speaker 3: points and beat the Texans by seventeen or twenty one. Well,
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  Speaker 3: then I'm gonna look at this through a slightly different
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  Speaker 3: lens of Okay, here's a like opponent and the Chargers
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  Speaker 3: managed to blow them out and you guys barely squeaked by.
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  Speaker 3: That would create a little bit more doubt in this
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  Speaker 3: scenario of that I'm painting this morning.
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  Speaker 4: That's brilliant. I completely agree you're done most I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: I's he's a thousand percent correct. I've got an internal struggle.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure if Chad does as well. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: think if you're a Broncos fan this morning, you should
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  Speaker 4: have a bit of an internal struggle because I think
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  Speaker 4: they're really good. Maybe I think they're better than I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I don't think, I don't know what I
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  Speaker 4: don't meant, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Just to give you my analogy here, paint for whatever
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  Speaker 5: you want. I think it's like when you have only
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  Speaker 5: so much in your canteen and you're passing it around
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  Speaker 5: and everybody's thirsty. You don't want to drink too much.
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  Speaker 5: Just take a little sip, mosh. That's what the Broncos
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  Speaker 5: did last night, Just a little sip to get them by,
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  Speaker 5: and then save that big drink for when you need
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  Speaker 5: it because in the next game against the Chargers, you're
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  Speaker 5: gonna need to take a gulp now.
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  Speaker 4: But what if you're in the middle of the desert
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  Speaker 4: there is no more water.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm afraid to worry about it when you
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  Speaker 5: get there, right now, just take a sip and survive.
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  Speaker 5: Chad sip in advance.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think both of you guys are right.
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  Speaker 3: I think there it's it's there's there's an unknown about
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  Speaker 3: this football team. And so as you guys know, I've
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  Speaker 3: traveled all around the country and done games every weekend,
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  Speaker 3: mostly college with some NFL, and of course everywhere I go,
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  Speaker 3: folks know that I live in Denver and they ask
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  Speaker 3: me questions about the Broncos. So it's the national perception
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  Speaker 3: fits with Moses's question. I'm having doubts and being concerned
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  Speaker 3: about what we're seeing from a beauty contest and adding
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  Speaker 3: that up into somehow a deep playoff run and how
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't match up. And locally in town people are like, VIC, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know it doesn't look beautiful every single week, but
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  Speaker 3: we find a way to win. And why would you
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  Speaker 3: look down your nose at a team that every single
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  Speaker 3: week finds a different way to win thirty three points
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  Speaker 3: in the fourth score against the Giants. Great. One score
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  Speaker 3: games against the Chiefs and the Raiders. Great, you found
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  Speaker 3: a way to play your most complete game against Jacksonville. Great,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not Jacksonville, sorry, green Bay. Great. So there's all
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  Speaker 3: that that goes into it as well. So it's a
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  Speaker 3: there are I don't know, a confusing if that's fair
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  Speaker 3: to say, football team right now, because traditional football experience says,
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  Speaker 3: you can't commit that middle of the penalties and we're
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  Speaker 3: going a deep playoff run. You can't have that poor
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  Speaker 3: of a tackling in the second in a couple of
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  Speaker 3: games and go on a deep playoff run. Your offense
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  Speaker 3: can't underperform for three quarters and finally put together in
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  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and go on a deep playoff run.
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  Speaker 3: So there's just this dichotomy on this football team that's
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  Speaker 3: difficult for me to wrap my traditional football experience around
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  Speaker 3: and say this is completely sustainable, all these one score
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  Speaker 3: and close wins.
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  Speaker 2: I love that you just said that, Chad, because I
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  Speaker 2: was thinking about that yesterday in that if the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: don't beat the Chargers and they don't get the number
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  Speaker 2: one seed and let's just say, you know, Buffalo wins
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  Speaker 2: this weekend and for some reason, like I said that,
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos lose to LA, that could set up a
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  Speaker 2: situation where Denver's is sixth seed going to LA on
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  Speaker 2: the road. Do the Broncos have to have home field
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  Speaker 2: advantage to win a Super Bowl this year?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. Then this is the argument that
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  Speaker 3: lines up with VIC that they are a team of
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  Speaker 3: I won't say destiny, but they are a team of
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  Speaker 3: confidence and self belief. And they are a team that
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  Speaker 3: has figured out so many different ways to win. And
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  Speaker 3: there's a skill, and there's an art to win in
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  Speaker 3: close games, and there's a football understanding of that. And
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  Speaker 3: if you're not good enough just to blow people off
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  Speaker 3: the field weekend and week out, because clearly the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: don't do that weekend and week out. If they were
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  Speaker 3: that good, they would do it. But they're good enough
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  Speaker 3: to find a way to walk away with a W.
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  Speaker 3: So part of me says, home away, get the buy
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  Speaker 3: not the buye it's not gonna matter. But but I
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  Speaker 3: mean the heck. I did my Broncos post game live
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  Speaker 3: last night, and people who are tuning in to a
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  Speaker 3: Broncos postgame live on Christmas Night, are telling me that
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  Speaker 3: Broncos are a fraud, that they are a pretender, that
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna be one and done in the So there's
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  Speaker 3: such a varied opinion about this football team because trying
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  Speaker 3: to match up what our eyes tell us and what
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  Speaker 3: our heart wants to happen. I think it's a difficult
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  Speaker 3: reconciliation for almost everybody, even the folks on Vic's side,
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  Speaker 3: to say, well, it's the perfect scenario because they just
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  Speaker 3: they do just enough to get the victory. Do you
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  Speaker 3: have to recognize within this season, how many lucky games
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  Speaker 3: have there been, how many improbable wins have there been?
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  Speaker 3: And can you do that for four weeks in a
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  Speaker 3: row in the playoffs? I guess we're fixing to find out.
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  Speaker 3: In the words of Gary Kubiak.
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  Speaker 5: Chat, I am a little worried about the Broncos run
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  Speaker 5: game because they're playing the two ice safety. Look the
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  Speaker 5: Chiefs were, and you know, they couldn't really generate consistent
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  Speaker 5: yardage there.
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  Speaker 4: I thought R. J.
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  Speaker 5: Harvey played well both in the passing game and in
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  Speaker 5: the running game, But what improvements do you need to see?
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  Speaker 5: Luke Wattenberg suddenly being are losing him for the rest
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  Speaker 5: of the season. It doesn't help the cause. But why
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  Speaker 5: is it not clicking in the run game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't don't think this offensive line that's their particular
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  Speaker 3: skill set. We know, you know, Quenton Minors can be
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  Speaker 3: a bulldozer, but across the line, they're a more skilled
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  Speaker 3: pass blocking unit than they are a run blocking unit.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, even Sean Payton said he needs to
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  Speaker 3: dive into the run game more when he came out
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  Speaker 3: of the locker room in a halftime talking about from
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  Speaker 3: a play calling perspective. So, if bo Knicks is gonna
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  Speaker 3: end up being your leading rusher, I know he technically
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  Speaker 3: wasn't because he took a knee and lost the yard
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  Speaker 3: there or two at the end of those kneel downs.
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  Speaker 3: But if b Knicks is gonna be a leading rusher again,
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  Speaker 3: football traditional wisdom says that ain't gonna be good enough.
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  Speaker 3: You're not gonna win playoff games if your quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: the leading rusher, and that's the most important or dynamic
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  Speaker 3: part of your run game. So you carry that up
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  Speaker 3: with a deep playoff run.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I should just say, you know what, this
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  Speaker 4: year is just one of those crazy years and don't
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  Speaker 4: even worry about it most don't, you know, don't fret
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  Speaker 4: about it whatever, just go with whatever they do. Man,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, because you're you're so right. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it feels like, go lee. This team's gonna get worked
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  Speaker 4: against a good team. I said this morning, they get
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  Speaker 4: beat by any AFC playoff team if they play that
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  Speaker 4: game against them. Maybe I'm wrong, man, Maybe they just
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  Speaker 4: maybe that's who they are. They're squeakers, like ring, like
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  Speaker 4: your dog with the chew are. Maybe they're just squeakers, man,
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  Speaker 4: And they're gonna squeak their way to a super Bowl championship.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna have to accept that and deal with
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  Speaker 4: it and not freak.
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  Speaker 3: Now, last year, the Chiefs won an amazing string of
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  Speaker 3: one score games and they got all the way to
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and then they true football reckoning happened.
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  Speaker 3: Uh you know, Finally, the football guys in our experienced
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  Speaker 3: football eyes told us the Chiefs can't win a Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl doing that, and they couldn't. They made it all
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  Speaker 3: the way to the super Bowl, but they couldn't win
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. I'm not sure what the Broncos outcome
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  Speaker 3: is going to be. I am not a betting man,
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  Speaker 3: and I wouldn't feel comfortable betting on this football team
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  Speaker 3: because I know what the record says. I know how
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  Speaker 3: they get it done every week, but it tells my
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  Speaker 3: eyes keep telling me that ain't sustainable. I've been around
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  Speaker 3: this game since I was six years old, been playing
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  Speaker 3: tackle football since I was nine. My first year in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL was nineteen ninety three. I've done something NFL
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  Speaker 3: related every year since then. So there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: football wisdom and experience in football these eyes have seen.
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  Speaker 3: And then my eyes keep telling me every week that
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  Speaker 3: ain't gonna be good enough, but somehow it is.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, last question for me, do you think that Travis
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  Speaker 5: Kelce played his last game? I mean, I my mind
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  Speaker 5: tells me that this is it. That's what my brain
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  Speaker 5: tells me. What do you think look at that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first a, I've got to look at that little
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  Speaker 3: mini hands you got up there. Took me a second.
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  Speaker 3: I know, like a forced perspective thing that people are
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  Speaker 3: doing movies to make something seem smaller or bigger. I
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  Speaker 3: was white.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the only by the side of there.
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  Speaker 3: Go back to me. So after year thirteen year in
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  Speaker 3: New England, my Patriots lose to the Broncos in Denver.
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  Speaker 3: That's the Champ Bailey interception game against the Patriots. I
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  Speaker 3: give my hugs in that parking lot. I tell everybody
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  Speaker 3: I'm done. I cry in the locker as I'm putting
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  Speaker 3: my pads into my bag. I'm done. This is my
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  Speaker 3: last football game ever. Well, shit, excuse me. Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 3: calls me a little bleak springer. Bill Belichick calls me
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  Speaker 3: in June and tells me he wants me to play. Well,
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  Speaker 3: when Bill Belichick calls you and tells you wants to play,
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  Speaker 3: you play one more year? Well, okay, So then year
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  Speaker 3: after year fourteen, I do the same thing. I retire,
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  Speaker 3: I give my hugs after the last game. I sell
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  Speaker 3: all the extra cars that are my out of town cars.
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  Speaker 3: I sell the house in New England. I am done,
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  Speaker 3: consolidate everything into a storage unit in Denver. Well. Bill
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  Speaker 3: Belichick calls me in July and tells me he wants
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  Speaker 3: me to play. So I play year fifteen. So is
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  Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey gonna do that? Because yes, I was done.
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  Speaker 3: I had retired, I had stopped working out, had done
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  Speaker 3: all those things. But when Bill Belichick calls you, say yes,
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  Speaker 3: if Andy Reid calls Travis Kelcey, is Travis Kelcey gonna
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  Speaker 3: turn Andy Reid down. We saw what Travis Kelsey was
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  Speaker 3: able to do last night, get separation from young dbs,
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  Speaker 3: move the chains with a third string quarterback, be the
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  Speaker 3: most important player offensively on the field for the Kansas
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  Speaker 3: City Chiefs in a division game against the Broncos as
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  Speaker 3: good as the Broncos defense is, I say, probably not.
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  Speaker 3: And even if he tells Andy Reid he's done, Andy
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  Speaker 3: Reid just gonna buy time and wait for the moment
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  Speaker 3: when Travis is going to miss it, when that traditional
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  Speaker 3: football clock in your head starts ticking and says I
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  Speaker 3: got to start getting ready for training camp and that
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  Speaker 3: football jones starts itching in your body like it did
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  Speaker 3: for me. Bill Belichick took advantage of that, and I'd
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  Speaker 3: imagine Andy Reid's probably going to try to do the same.
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  Speaker 4: No offense, but carrying luggage it gets overrated, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean? And no offense, but he's probably going
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  Speaker 4: to be doing a lot of luggage carrying in the future.
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  Speaker 4: That being said, yes, yeah, so did did Bill Cally?
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  Speaker 4: You say, Chad, Hey, it's hey chat it's Bill. I'd
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  Speaker 4: like you to come back. We need a guy who
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  Speaker 4: who can be simply overwhelmed by by an offensive, simply overpowered.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I made the mistake of simple the official reference.
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  Speaker 4: Hey listen, man, you're I love having you on. You
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  Speaker 4: help me think better about this. I just I can't
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  Speaker 4: sit here today in light to the audience and say
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  Speaker 4: that I feel great because I don't. You know, that's all.
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  Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm with you, moj It's it's They're a difficult
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  Speaker 3: team to wrap your mind around because again, if you
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  Speaker 3: look at them through blue and orange glasses, yeah, they
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  Speaker 3: just they're They're undefeatable. They find ways every week they
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  Speaker 3: get it done. They're this or that. If you look
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  Speaker 3: at it through a traditional lens of football excellence, I
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  Speaker 3: don't see enough of that to say deep playoff run.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you marry those two f together. We'll
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  Speaker 3: see it in the playoffs. We'll see are they good
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  Speaker 3: enough against good teams? Because again, doing the Broncos postgame
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  Speaker 3: live last night, they can only do this against bad teams.
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  Speaker 3: They're not gonna be able to do it against good
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  Speaker 3: teams in the playoffs. Every football cliche. We've heard about
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  Speaker 3: one score games is said about this football team, yet
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  Speaker 3: they continue to find ways to get the w Merry Christmas, Chad,
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  Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, Fellas.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you, buddy. Good to see you, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Have a good rest of your twenty twenty five. We'll
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  Speaker 2: see in the new.
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  Speaker 3: Year you will.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, chat. That is Chad Brown joining us
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  Speaker 2: this morning on Mosier Lombardian Kane with Matt Smith on
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  Speaker 2: the other side. Let's hot stove it just a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And also the Nuggets have a Cam Johnson problem. How
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  Speaker 2: do they solve it? We'll throw some things at the
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  Speaker 2: wall and see what sticks next. Welcome back to it.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Friday. It is a bud Light Football Friday on
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  Speaker 2: Moser Lombardian Kane. Thanks so much for being here with us,
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  Speaker 2: the official beer sponsor of the Denver Broncos. Bud Light
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  Speaker 2: Remember to enjoy responsibly tons to get into What a
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  Speaker 2: performance last night from Nicola Jokic and the Nuggets who
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  Speaker 2: rally back after they gave up a bit of the
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  Speaker 2: lead to make NBA history in overtime. Last night, the
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  Speaker 2: Nuggets rolled into Kansas City and for the first time
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  Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen left with a wigins. What did I say?
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  Speaker 2: The Nuggets? The Broncos rolled into Kansas City and left
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  Speaker 2: for the first time since twenty fifteen with a win.
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  Speaker 2: But there were some other news and notes from this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Real quick though, on your Freudian slip. Yeah, Nicole gets
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  Speaker 4: in the Denver Nuggets would have hung thirty on the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs yesterday. Okay, that's why I'm pissed off. Excuse my language.
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  Speaker 2: Fun Yeah, this.
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  Speaker 5: Game, of course, but nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm gonna look back and say,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: just get Yeah, a good game.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: God bless us everyone before we before we hit all
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: these little fun things I have we mentioned ranking this game, Vic,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: where does this rank? Is a joker game? For you?
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: They all meld into one. I don't know where else
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: to put these. I don't know what to do with them.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Because the last time they played Minnesota at home and
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: it went to overtime, he produced a sixty point triple double.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Correct me if I'm wrong.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Sixty.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: So this is now a fifty six point sixteen and fifteen.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: This is just another chapter in the life and times
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: of NICOLEA.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Jokicic.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Honest to God, I would have to sit down and
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: take a look at some of his best games to
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: give you a full assessment.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: What is this.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know where it rains. I don't know, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: don't It's just another one.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Safely, we could put it top ten, right. Of course, they.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Typically don't win these kind of games when he has
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: a game like this. I mean, he may go off,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: but the Nuggets don't win when he has one of these.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: When he has one of these crazy scoring games, I
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: mean I get disappointed, you know, more than forty a game.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It just hey, but you just said it. When he
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: has one of the crazy scoring games. Yeah, it wasn't
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: just a crazy scoring game last night. It was the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: first fifty five plus fifteen plus fifteen plus game in
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: NBA history. That's what it was. It was the fifth
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: highest scoring triple double ever. I mean, he got everybody
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: else involved. That was the impressive part too. This was
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: David Adelman on that topic last night.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gotta be up there, I guess. I mean,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: I've been here for so long. I mean it's top
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: five and that I always put them in different categories
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: because playoffs are different, and you know, a performance in
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: a game six or something when someone's game plan for
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: you that many times is always really impressive. But in
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: a regulars game against a team that basically is a
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: playoff opponent that we play, it feels like twenty five
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: times a year. This is yeah, this is up there.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: It's an historic night. And the efficiency fifteen to twenty
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: one four for six twenty two to twenty three to
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: go along with a three to one assist ratio on
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: a triple double is a.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right. So Cam Johnson will be reevaluated in
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: four to six weeks. According to Sham Sharanya, Christian Brown
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: is out. I don't know conservatively, let's just call it
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: two more weeks. Vic is that safe?
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man. Every time I think it's close,
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I just don't know. Originally the evaluation time was what
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: it is. I mean, he's reevaluated at the first of
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: the year. If they can get Christian Brown back at
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: some point during this road trip, great, If they get
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: ag back at some point in January, great. I just
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: I'm done predicting because I don't know.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: So do they need to make a move, do they
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: need to bring in some help to help them get
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: through this stretch?
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: How do you make a move. I need somebody to
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: explain to me how you make a move.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's just talk about what they have. Let's just
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: talk about what they have. They have no tradable first
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: round picks, and presumably there's nobody of such great value
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: on Denver's bench that you would really be willing to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: part way with that You wouldn't have to attach an
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: asset to get somebody to take. We're on the same page.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: There, correct, Yeah, correct, Vic. Yeah, I don't know what
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: you do though, I don't know how you do it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I don't I have some ideas.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Oh well, goodek, you have two second round picks you
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: could play with, and you have Doron Holmes. Yay, So
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: those are would you say those are their assets?
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: I mean we haven't even seen Doron Holmes in a
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: game of meaning, sure, we haven't even seen him. So
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: how much of an asset is he if he's not
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: playing when you have all these injuries to your front court?
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Did you see the Nuggets line up last night? At
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: times they look tiny compared to Minnesota.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: And so there's a guy at six foot ten that's
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: sitting on your court that's not even playing.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Who you're talking about Doron Holmes. Okay, so how much of.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: An asset is he? I guess it'd be a mystery asset. Right.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Well, last time we brought this up, you told me
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: he had some value. No, do you feel differently now?
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Well, of course he has value, but I'm saying how
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: much value? That's in the eye of the beholder. It's
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: the eye of the team that wants him.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so who knows? So that's what you have.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: There's also an alternative option. On January fifth, the Nuggets
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: can sign guys to ten day contracts. Okay, And because
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: they have so many players injured, if you get a
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: hardship exception, you can sign guys to ten day deals
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: without it counting against your salary cap. So you can
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: do that if you wanted to. Now you probably have
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: at least five games, and then on the fifth they
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: play the second of a back to back, so probably
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: six games. You got to make it through before you
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: get any sort of reinforcement.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Anybody, anybody you'd signed to a ten day as a
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: non factor in my eyes anyway. To be honest with you,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: let me lay to how I feel, and it's that
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I don't even really give a rats rip. As long
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: as these guys ain't missing the season the rest of
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: the year, I'm good. But if you're twenty two and eight,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: get me to get me to the postseason, Vic, because
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: there's you're really hamstring. There's not a lot you can
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: do right now. But if everybody comes back healthy and
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: happy and everything else, let's go.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: I think you're long till Matt has a point. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: here's human nature says. See, I disagree with you on
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: this because human nature is going to catch up. Oh,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: they should have won that game. Yeah, but you're missing
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: three starters. Yeah, but they should have won that game.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: You know, you start thinking like you start thinking greedy,
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: and what it does when you're down three starters and
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: you need more out of Jamal and Joker and they
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: got much more less night, You're gonna wear them down.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: So at what cost?
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: This is a high cost you're paying right now.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: These dudes are playing enormous minutes and they're producing that
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: at an all time high, even more than they ever have.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: At some point, you're gonna hit the wall.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Agreed, Vic, But I'm not even worried about that right now.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: As long as those guys okay, well I'm not.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: I'm worried about it. It's not even January yet, and
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: these guys I'm worried.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, we're your pretty little head off. Then there's
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: nothing you can do about it. You have to accept
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: where you are and who you are and what you're
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: dealing with and muddle through the best you possibly can.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: And then when time comes and these guys are quote healthy,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: it's time to lay.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Would you also have two trade exceptions you could use
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to. There's a six point nine million
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: trade exception and a five point four Now using either
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: would exceed that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: You're in the salary cap.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Now, that's exactly right.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: You're in the text.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Now. Julian Strather is
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: also available. Somebody says Strather and Nase are an assets. No,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Zeke Nase making eight million a year is not an asset.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: You would have to beg somebody to take him. Julian
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Strather on the other hand, though, maybe, but again, you're
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: probably not making any sort of move that's gonna move
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the needle. What you're gonna do is probably add some reinforcements.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: You also have to be lucky I mean, the Denver
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Nuggets did something I thought was impossible. They moved off
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: of Dario sarch and got an upgrade. And I'm still
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: wondering why the hell Sacramento would do that, and come
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: to find out, they thought Sacramento thought that they were
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: gonna lose yonas regardless, for every team has reasons, right,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: every team has a reason to make a move. You
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: gotta find those reasons. The next month is going to
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: be a difficult month to navigate for the Nuggets with
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: these injuries. The Cam Johnson won. At first, when I
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: heard it was a bone bruise, I was like, oh, great,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: they got off man. But the more I read about it,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: the more I hear about it, it could be long, man.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: It could be a long time before he's one hundred percent.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: It could be two months.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: He's going to be reevaluated. And that's again keywords, reevaluated
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: in four to six weeks. That's not cured, that's not ready,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: that's reevaluated. I don't think Cam Johnson plays another game
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: till after the All Star Break.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Probably not. And at this point, why would you rush
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: him back if it's a situation like that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Someone on the text line CB and AG should both
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: be back very soon. That solves a lot of problems, health,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: not trades. According to who, well, I think CB's closer
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: than AG. But even CB's got the ankle issue.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, so you figure they're gonna give him due time
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: to get that ankle right. He's an athletic player. You
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: need it right when AG returns, I'm not gonna lie
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: to you. I hold my breath every time he makes
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: a move, right, do you guys?
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: What? No? No? I mean yeah, but I don't want
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: to be that guy. What guy the guy's oh he's
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: gonna get hurt again? Or because he now is starting
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: to wrack up these injuries. Man, he's starting to wreck
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: some stuff up. But that being said, when he comes back,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to assume he's healthy. I'm not gonna be scared.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I'm just going with it. That's it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see, man.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: And you know what, Vic, that makes me a better
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: person than you.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: We shall see. I mean, I guess it does. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: guess it does. Let's hot stove it. Let's hot stove it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, all right. I don't know if you guys
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: caught this one this weekend, but did you see what
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: happened with this young man by the name of James.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: NASEI, Yeah, that's crazy to me.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: This is about to open Pandora's box in the world
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: of college athletics. So, James Nause, he was a twenty
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: twenty three NBA draft pick, has enrolled at Baylor and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: is immediately eligible to play for the Baylor Bears this season.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: The NBA draft pick is returning to school, and the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: loophole is simple he never signed an NBA contract. However,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: it's not just that easy, because what this does is
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: open the legal precedent for guys who have already played
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: in the NBA to then come back to college if
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: they have not exhausted their eligibility.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Like Ben Simmons who now opened up a fishing derby
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: school or some sort.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I am telling you right now, I can't tell you
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: exactly everything I know, but I'm telling you that there
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: are former NBA players who may or may not still
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be in the league who are considering this heavily and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: this summer. This is all gonna get addressed in court.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: But because there's already legal president, I don't think they're
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: gonna do anything about it. I don't think they have
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: a leg to stand on. I think they're gonna have
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to do this. And here's the craziest part. It's already
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: happened at Kansas State, their women's basketball program, Nasja Classen's okay,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: this girl anyway, I just understand. She's from Belgium. She
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: was drafted with the thirtieth overall pick in the twenty
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: twenty four WNBA draft. She went back to school because
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of course WNBA rosters are very limited, and she is
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: now currently the second leading scorer at Kansas State after
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: being the thirtieth pick in the twenty twenty four WNBA draft.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: It doesn't surprise me. There's a lot of players who
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: can't hang in the NBA and they go play in
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: parts unknown, they go play in Europe. If you're one
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: of those players, you don't want to live in I
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: don't know, Pakistan. Yeah, you'd rather play and live in
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Boulder and play for CU and make you know, make
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: a five hundred grand playing in Boulder, then whatever you
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: make a Pakistan. This is an option.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Now, dude, this I said, Well, I had one word
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: response to you yesterday. What was it? Wow? Because this
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: opens up so many things I could never have envisioned
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: that this would that this could happen. I am blown
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: away by this because there how much eligibility does you?
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Donnas Haslam have left? Because that guy's like forty three.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I mean after twenty years of the NBA, twenty two
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: years in the NBA, if he's got a year left,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: can he go back to college?
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Hey, Lebron has all his eligibility left?
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: By the way, yes, if you're Michigan, are you going,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Hey Lebron Lebrizzio, come here, man, We'll give you ten
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: million per.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy, isn't it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Dude?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I just I don't even know it
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: for this summer in college basketball. Just wait for this summer,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: all right? Moving on?
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Well, by the way, I'll say this, Lebron stunk last night.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I'm glad you Lakers got smoked by the Rockets last night.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up Lebron and the Lakers.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: He's stunk.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: This was JJ Reddick after the game.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: It's a matter of.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: Making the choice, and too often we have guys that
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: don't want to make that choice. And it's pretty consistent
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: who those guys are. And so Saturday's practice, I told
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: the guys. It's going to be uncomfortable. The meeting is
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing another fifty three games.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Not doing another fifty three games like this. Hey, hey,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Victor's one move the Lakers need to meet, need to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: make and it's obvious, but they're not going to do it,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: are they?
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: What choice is he.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Referring to, by the way, and who is he referring
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to the choice to compete? The choice to show up?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: That's the choice.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: The Lakers are a bit of a mess here.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah they are.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I mean they're stuck between two generations.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Watching Lebron do his uh you know, his talcon powder
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: thing yesterday?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Is it gold bond now?
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. But he was not
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: very good when he was on the floor last night.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: They were a minus thirty three.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Here's Luca to the game as well. I don't know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: We have to change, Definitely, something is to change. I
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: think we've grown out in the last three games. You know, definitely,
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: most things terrible. Uh, we got to figure out that's
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: the thing we have. And that's what I'm just going
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: to talk about. Anybody got to talk about it and
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: Jesus says that I'd be uncomfortable.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: So is it should be okay Lakers move Lebron before
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the year's over.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he's willing to do that, and
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: it's going to be up to him.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: No, he won't. We sure, Yeah, positive, he's happy. Well,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: his whole life now is not even basketball. It's movies
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: and it's production companies and it's all that sort of thing.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: You would have to be I would be. I would
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: be shocked.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: You would have to hand an NBA championship opportunity on
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: a platter.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: For him to move m We'll see. We'll see, because
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the Lakers aren't going anywhere, and they know that if
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't win a title, they have to make some trades.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: But guess what. There there are three elite teams. It's
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: San Antonio, Oka, See and Denver in the West. Agree
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: or disagree.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: I love the fact that San Antonio is now beaten
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: OKAC three times in the last two weeks.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, who was it that was whining about, Well, they
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: got a big guy. There's a big problem in the middle.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Jalen Williams, it's always yeah, he was Jayleen Williams. Well, no,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: guff chet. Oh, I'm sorry, a little adversity. You gotta
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: you got a seven foot yourself. Who's the skinniest you
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: have two of them? Yeah, dude, don't don't cry for me, Argentina.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: You know what, I don't want to hear your crap.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Do we think it could be a good thing if
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: OKAC is preoccupied with trying to beat san Antonio, of.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Course, of course you're not taking on all the I
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: love the fact that san Antonio is in the mix,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: and san Antonio grew up in a hurry, guys in
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: a hurry. I think they went from they're intriguing to yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: that's a championship contender.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: They've got. They've got some dudes there, obviously.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: And it's not just Wenby. Everybody's Wenby Wenby their guards
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: they're good to get in the lane and move their guards.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Of the reason why they're this good right now, Remember
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: they beat the Nuggets without Wemby.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Darren Fox going there, maybe that you know they've
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: got they've got some dudes doing some stuff. Man, that's
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: they're more scary than I give him credit for. But
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I've come to the realization, Merry Christmas, everybody, by the way.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: I don't like anybody anymore. I don't I don't like Wemby,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I don't like Jalen. I don't like chet Chet's face
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: bothers me to death. I don't like to see him
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: on television. I don't like these guys.
• 32:36
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• 32:49
  Speaker 2: laid down. We got to wrap the show with laid down.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Just a little, just a little.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Dude, I really really do feel like laying some stuff down,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: all right, So let's mean I've got a hankering.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Let's do that. Let's do that out to sports radio. Alrighty,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: it is time to figure out which Broncos are in
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the groove. Is Denver now to thirteen wins, the first
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: in the thirteen win club and the Broncos the first
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: team in NFL history with twelve come from behind wins.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Tye the record for most one score wins with eleven.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: We'll start with you, Vic, who you got grooving right now?
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: Well, I think groove wise. Even though he didn't have
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: the greatest production yard, I thought RJ. Harvey handled himself well.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: He tried to run up the middle, nowhere to run.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: He caught some passes, was productive there. He came up
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: big when you needed the most. I think RJ. Harvey
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: to ask the best out of him. He's giving you
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: his best. If that's not good enough, it's not his fault.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: But he's given you his best.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I like RJ.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Most.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Don't even look at me. I got nothing.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: You don't have a single Bronco in the no, not one.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: No. You know what you sacked. You sacked a practice
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: squad guy one time I got.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I got one. Then I'll take one. I'll take one.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I'm too you can have. I'll tell you what you
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: can have, all my groove, Matt, I give you every
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: groove that I own. Take it.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I'll let Sean Payton tell you who mine is.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: Tell you what was pretty impressive. Alex came in today
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: and played really well and got a game ball. It
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: was a tough trip home last year. You know, it's
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: a little life lesson, you know, for someone like him.
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: To come back in a starting role. That was That
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: was pretty cool.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Alex Forsyth in the groove after a really really rough
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: game last year in Kansas City. Yeah, I think we
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: all know what I'm talking about.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: He got thrown in the mix and.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Luke Wattenberg heads to ir the starting center and here
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: we go with Alex Forsyth now for probably the next month.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Sounds good.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: He's my guy, all right? That is uh? And you
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you just don't have it. You don't have anybody. How
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: about the water boy? Was he in the groove? Did he?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Did he have a good pour?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Who's that? I don't know. One of the equipment guys.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe one of those guys. Did you know what?
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just start here going anywhere.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I don't. I have this coffee in my hand.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Groove Coyota. I'm South Broadway and Grove Toyota, Doca cool.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I got the Brett Kane Bunny mug on crap. I
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: just got a bad taste in my mouth after that game.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: It's just a bad taste. I just I'm not I
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: can't fake it and I won't fake it, So you
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna do instead. Chris Mitchell let's lay
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: it down.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Oh all right, I got four today?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Is there a Lucky Louis pick today? There is a
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Lucky Louis pick today?
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: All right? First of all, I don't really feel good
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: about this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. I think
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers are going to wax Baltimore wax him.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: They're only a two and a half point favorite. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: think I think the pack is Look, I just think they're.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Gonna smoke them. Baltimore is a mess man. Yeah, there
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: might be done there. Yeah, they're they're changing to the
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: garden Baltimore. I mean, it's two and a half at Lambeau.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: That's at least when I got him at two and
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: a half. I think it's gone to like four and
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: a half. But I got them at two and a
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: half when it opened. Uh, just take the damn Packers.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Go to see Janis at the window wherever it is.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: You go and lay it down. Thanks, Chris, all right,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: this is gonna make Matt unhappy. Do you realize the
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: San Francisco forty nine Ers, VIC, that's a pretty damn
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: good football team.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Did you know that?
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Vic? The forty nine Ers keep proving us all wrong?
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Despite the injuries.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: This is a heads up game against the Bears. They're
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: at home, they're only laying three, and in the last
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: five weeks they've scored forty one twenty twenty six, thirty
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: seven eight. You realize that, right, And Brock Purty back
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: from injury, I mean, he looks like a freaking Pro Bowl.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: He looks like Montana.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, look, they're laying three. So basically, I'm gonna call
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: it a heads up game, just you know, heads up, right,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: forget the spread anyway, The Niners will beat the Bears
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: this weekend.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong. I gotta be real with you.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: That's that one might be too big of a too
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: big of a bite for Chicago.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Too big of an ask.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is, Yeah, too big of an ask.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: So take your bread. Yeah, the Niners Kyle Shanahan, I'm
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: not gonna doubt him whatsoever. Just lay it down, thank you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: How good is the NFC West, By the way, that's ridiculous.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: The only reason I'm picking this game is because of
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: the name of the bowl, Bad Boy Mower's Bowl, Pinstripe Bowl,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Bad Bad Boy Mower's Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium. They're
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: in the Bronx. Yeah, it's Penn State and Clemson. Clemson. Actually,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: you know what, you realize they won foida row to
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: close out the year.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Never paid attention.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you didn't because you're a dill hole.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: But they've actually been playing some pretty good football. Penn
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: State at six and six, frankly got fired. They already
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: got the new coach in, but he's not doing Jack squad.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Nobody cares. But here's the crappy part about this. With
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: opt outs and with injuries, Clemson is missing seven starters
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: on offense and seven starters on defense. What are we
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: even doing this for anymore? I said that, are we
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: even doing this anymore?
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: A notre dame opted out in the world went bonkers.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Why is this suddenly a big deal? I don't know.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what a bad boy mower is.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: It's probably some you know, badass lawnmower. I don't know
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Thanks for joining my side of the street. Bowl games
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: are dead.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: You're done either way. Clemson mind is two and a half.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Very nice, okay, very nice way down? Thank you, and
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna ride this sucker until I die. I don't
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: think that Bye is very happy being in the pop
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Tarts Bowl. I think you realizing that Texas Tech worked
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: them over hard twice. Uh. I mean maybe they'll maybe
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: they'll get fired up at quarterbacks back from Inch where
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: he got hurt by the way in the Big twelve
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: title game. But Georgia Tech, Haines King is my guy.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: You know, seventy percentage completion percentage, twenty seven hundred yards
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: through the air, nine to fifty on the ground, and
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: fifteen touchdowns this year, the true dual threat quarterback. It's
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: at Camping World Stadium in Orlando. It's the pop Tarts Bowl,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: and I like pop Tarts a lot. I eat pop
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: tarts I don't know, once every couple of weeks on
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: this show. So I'm gonna take Georgia Tech. I'm gonna
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: take the five and eat pop tarts. You're taking Georgia Tech. Yeah,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Mother Trucker, lay it down, thanks Bear, What do you got?
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I don't understand how people bet on bowl games. It's
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: like betting on It's like it's like not, it's just done.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: It's like Springer betting the first run of Wimbledon.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: It's dumbed.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, although the Hawaii Bowl on Christmas Eve was awesome.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: What a win by the Rainbow Warriors. I told you Alahado,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: he's a dog. Anyway, I lay it down this week.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: There's a couple I got, I actually got a couple.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Can I lay a laya, A Lucky Louie and a
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: bonus pick? But Lucky Louie is Steelers minus three in Cleveland.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: It's over for the Browns. And I don't know what's
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: gonna happen with Shador, but it doesn't feel good. And
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the Steelers are only a three point favorite and they
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: need a win to clinch the division and a playoff.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Berth give me the Steelers.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Lay it down, yeah, and.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Then the button Yeah. And the bonus pick for you
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: is Patriots minus two touchdowns on the road at the Jets.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: The Jets are miserable. The Patriots need to win one
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: more game to win the division to stay ahead of
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: the Bills. They'll do enough to beat them by two touchdowns,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: whereas the Broncos could not do enough to beat Kansas
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: City handily. It'll be the Pats in a big win.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Lay it down, lay it down, all right, if you'll
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: kill up Chris Goudon killed that rat quick, thank you,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: and give me some love music. I need some love
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: in my heart. I need some love because I look
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: at vix face today. So when you can find some
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: love music, just Chris Mitchell, just put it on up.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I look at Vic's face and I think to myself,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: why in the world do I come here every single
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: day to look at that face?
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I do it for the face.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Cut him off, Shut them off. I do no, no, no,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: not the music. Just shut bick off for a second.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I do it for the people, Matt, because I'm a giver.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: You are a give I like I do it for
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: the listeners and the viewers everybody else who however you
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: find this program. I do it for you. And I
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: have to put up with that face. Now, my face,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I'm sure if you looked at it, and a lot
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: of people are gonna say this on I'm sure in
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: the text line and on the twitch feed and YouTube
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: and everything else. My face in't exactly pretty either. So
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: the fact that you've come in here for a week
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: after a week after week filling in for Brett Kane
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: and his eighty seven kids and looked at our faces
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: every day and put up with us, I want to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: say thank you to Matt Smith. Today is his last
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: day with us. Bred'll be back on Monday. But this
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: is not an easy program to come in and be
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: a part of because we're idiots. It's a swamp. There's
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: a lot of blankery that going on. What did I
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: tell you the first week? I said, there's a lot
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: of blankly right? What did I say? This is a
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: survival mode, Mitchell. The fact that Mitchell's a statue probably
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: helps him. He has no emotions whatsoever. But you have emotions,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: and you have a heart and you have a brain.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: And I thank you for all you've done for us.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Seriously, Matt Lewis Smith. Your ability to shepherd us through
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: all this and get us to that manger is very
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: well done and it will not be forgotten.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Did you just compare him to Jesus Christ? He did
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: you three while? Okay, hey on a second, more more
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: love music place, because I got more love for Matt. Okay,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: you what you came out of the bullpen big time,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: out of somewhere up north and you had to draw
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: your butt off every morning? Yeah, I turned you onto
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: a good song though. Did you listen to Pebbles?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I loved it.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, good, good, But you you came down here and
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: you put up with us for a week after week
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: after week after week, and for that I'm thankful. I'm
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: thankful that you came into our lives.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Oh well, that's very kind of you. Thank you guys
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: for welcoming me to your little, uh chaos nest here.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: It's been fun to get in here, root around, get
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: a little dirty, but it's been a good time.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: Seriously, because we hadn't worked together before this run of
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: what have you been here?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: What?
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Eight months?
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: How long is this king?
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: It's been like a year and a half.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I think five weeks? Five weeks?
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Jesus?
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Did you think it would I mean, would you when
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: you were told you'd be working with us? Is this
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: what it was stacked up to be in your mind?
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: Or?
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I I you know, I've worked
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: with some characters in the past, but you two are
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: definitely unique and I've enjoyed it. Characters, yeah, some mean
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: would you not consider yourself a character?
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: A character?
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah? He is too.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: You're just a bit actor.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: You're You're the King of Chicken and Moses the king
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: of you know, yelling at whatever pisses him off every
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: morning at seven am.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Lances, Matt deserves a blanking metal for putting up with
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: your crab Mosure. Yeah you know what, Lance, by way,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: what's your name? Lance Cocktail? Hey Cocktail. I understand that
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: I'm acknowledging that I'm owning that You're right, Matt or Lewis.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, hope to work with you again in the future. Seriously,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: So thank you, thanks, thank you for doing your part
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: because you kept us together.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same to you guys. This is uh again. As
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: as Mose said, this is my last day at altitude.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Brett thankfully, I mean for the time being, I mean.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Brett thankfully comes back on Mondays he has another kid,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: unless he has another kid. I appreciate everybody for tuning in.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I hope you have a wonderful holiday and a happy
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: new Year. Thanks for being patient with us, and we'll
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: talk to.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Be honest, and I really appreciate you putting up with us.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Did you have fun? Of course? Are you sure?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Of course?
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: You can go back over with what's his face?
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: Here's the thing, you ready, It doesn't have to be
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: aesthetically pleasing to be effective. I've said that before and
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: so that's all that's important.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Thanks Sean, thank you everybody.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I love you, buddy, Thanks, good job.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Most Marty and Kan will be back on Monday.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: That was perfect man, great job.