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Andre 3000 & Diddy's Opposite Paths, Jo's Cross Country Move - #72 · The Grounded Show

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Hey man, we back again. I was hoping to debut the new studio.
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It's it's it's kind of halfway there. Y'all kind of can see that
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my setup is a little different, but I had a little bit of technical
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difficulties. Easier me, So we back grounded show episode seventy two, back
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with the full lineup. My dog Joe is officially backing the Oh you're hearing
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me? The Rock's come back to the to be back. It was good
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to be back, b So it was. It was a long trip along
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a long list of things to do, but it was done. Everything checked
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off. Now I'm here for the cars, waiting for my stuff, and
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I'm happy to be back though, that's for sure. So you're pretty much
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born and raised in Orlando and then you moved out to Vegas for three years
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and you're coming back like you saying how happy you are? Like did you
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feel like it was time? Like were you ready to come back? Like,
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well, what was the yeah? There it was. Actually I grew
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up on the West Coast. I grew up in California Bay Area until I
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was ten, but since I was ten years old, I moved here to
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the East Side and I spent thirty six years of my life here in the
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same five al radius elementary school, middle school, high school, college.
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My jobs all right here, right around UCF, so I never went anywhere.
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And then, you know, wife, these parents were living in Vegas,
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I was working Remo. It was COVID and I was like, yo,
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let me just go out there and see what's good to see if I
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can work out there. And then it was just such a easy thing to
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just transition, and I said, fuck it. But which is crazy,
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because so we when we moved here in ninety four, we drove here from
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Cali with all our stuff in a trailer in a little Chevy course to go
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sedan and it was a hell of a troop where we broke down in a
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couple of states because the car overheated. But it was a troop. So
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when I moved over there, my parents didn't want me to drive or anything.
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So I got everything shipped, so the same thing, I shipped everything
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back. But I can tell you right now that's it. I'm never moving
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across the country again. Bro Ever, my wife's like, what if one
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day we went back. I said, hey, you on your own,
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chief, stay over here. It's a lot of work that we were across
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the country man, and I'm grateful with the experience, though like I said,
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I've always wanted to live somewhere else, I never had the boss to
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do it. I'm super thankful for her and the opportunity I had. But
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there's nothing, absolutely nothing like being here, being around my people, being
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around my fam. It feels like I never left. Like I went golfing
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earlier with the fellas, and it's crazy how three years ago it was my
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last time golfing with them before I moved, and here we are, three
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years later, the first golf session of many to come, and it's just
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it was like a blink of an eye, but during it it felt like
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forever. And it's crazy how life is and how time passes and how quick
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it is and how much it changed me. But that's the kind of things
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that we'll continue to say, Bill character, and I think it changed me
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for the best. It was something that was needed. I needed to leave
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here for a while, and now that I'm back, I get a start
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over how I want and rewrite my story here and started from scratching, and
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every and everybody gets to see how it's going to turn out. So it
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was all around life changing experience for sure, something that we were talking about
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before, and it was kind of based off of what you were saying in
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the group chat where it was like, when you do something like this,
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it's almost impossible for it not to be a huge change, like not even
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just physically, you know what I mean, like kind of like you said,
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across country, the change that it does to your body. You're in
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a different part of the map, Like there's like a lot of other little
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factors working in there where it's like the situation that you're coming into is like
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a monumental thing, just based off the circumstances, if that makes any sense.
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No, like age time, you know ya. No, I've come
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here a lot to visit and for work while I lived out there, and
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my mentality with everything involved was that I have a limited amount of time here.
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I'm consistently worrying about getting back, and now that's completely gone. You
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know, I'm here forever pretty much, and I'm not in the back of
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my head it's like, all right, when do I have to go back
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fly home and get back to my shit, Like my shit's here, So
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my whole mind state of me being here is completely different than it's been for
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four years since when I lived here before, and getting back to that,
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it's like, I live here, so it's like we need we needed like
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sponge or sow or this and that, and my wife's like, oh,
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we didn't have let's go buy it because we don't have to fly home with
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it. We're going to keep it here because we live here. And it's
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like everything we're missing we can just go by. It's not like, oh,
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let's not waste money on something because we have it back home. It's
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like, now that we are home, let's go buy what we need because
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we're here and we need to establish it here. And it's just a completely
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different mindset that I have not been in in years, and at this age
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and at this point in my life, where I think like this and process
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starts like this, I have not I've never done this before. And I've
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lived here and I've been here and I visited, but I have never had
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to think like this ever, especially with a wife here and living here.
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So it's completely new to me despite it being where I live for thirty for
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twenty six years. It's just it's almost like like less. It says when
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There's a lot of stuff I don't sit and think about, but this is
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something I sit and think about, and I'm like, this is crazy.
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Like I just consistently like just sit there and kind of days off. I'm
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like, Wow, this this is something I've never done before. But I'm
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excited about We're both excited about it. We're both looking forward to it,
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and we're just kind of anxious to see how it's all going to turn out
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and how life is going to be. But we're positive and we're excited.
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So it's a good thing. But it's different. It's like I said,
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it's it's something brand new to me despite it being something I'm used to.
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Yo, Quincy, how does that hit you, particularly from the point of
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view of like you're kind of young in the process that Joe just completed,
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you know what I mean. Like he moved, he moved somewhere new,
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was out there for a while, then moved back. You're kind of young
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in that process of like you move somewhere new, establishing your life out there.
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Like, so, like, how do you react to what he says
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and how does it kind of like relate to like the stage you're at in
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your situation. I think it's dope to see. I know, Like for
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me, you know, one of the things that I you know, have
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battled internally is like, you know, even when I've had those conversations with
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Joe, it's like, you know, he's going back to, you know,
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a comfortable place as far as just his relationships. You know, he
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was able to get up this morning and and go play golf with his old
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homies. You know what I'm saying. It's like I personally battle with that
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now being where I'm at where it's like all my homies, but then at
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the on the other side of it, it's like you know, I know,
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for me, when I took my road trip back into sixteen twenty seventeen,
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that was like my eye opening experience where it was like, you know,
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you know, you're cutting in and out. Can you hear me?
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I mean, we could hear you just cutting in and out. It sounds
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like you're on the Merry go around, and you're like, that's well basically
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like you know, for me, like you know, when I went on
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that road trip, it really showed me like, hey, you know,
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there's more to life than Orlando. You know what I'm saying, is it
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still doing it. No, No, you're good. Now, Oh okay,
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there was more to life than Orlando. So like, you know,
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me being on the front end of that journey is like, you know,
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just trying to kind of figure that out, you know what I'm saying,
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because you know, the easy route would have been to just kind of stay,
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you know what I'm saying. But you know, it's like, let
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me kind of see what's out here, and you know, if I want
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to come back, you know, I'll come back. But I think it's
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dope that you had that experience, you know what I'm saying, and you
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were able to kind of make that decision where it was like, you know,
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I lived in Vegas. I did everything you can do in Vegas and
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enjoyed it, you know, and you know, like, I had that
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life experience, and I'm coming back to Orlando where I'm you know, more
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comfortable and where my people are and where I know that I'll have a better
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quality of life from that standpoint. You know, that's that's dope, you
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know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, you had that
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experience, so it's like no one can say anything about you coming back,
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you know what I mean. It's like I went out, I lived,
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and you know, I decided this is where I want to be. Okay.
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Cool. I always think about that concept always from the point of view
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like my boy Kevin that went to the Navy, like right after high school,
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you know what I mean. I think about so many people that do
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stuff like that, and kind of like what Joe said, that's exactly what
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I wanted to get to, was like you kind of come back and everything
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is like right where you left it. You pick up right where you left
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off. Like it's like the routine is always going to be there, you
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know what I mean. And if you're if you're finding a way to thrive
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in the routine and you don't crave that change, do your thing. But
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some people, you know what I mean, you got to you gotta experience
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other places. You gotta confirm to yourself that this is a place where you
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need to be. And it's taking that leap, you know what I mean,
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Like sometimes you take that leap. It's it's it's how I always approach
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like anything that I do as far as like even if I don't feel like
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I'm up to it certain times, like for example, recording skateboarding anything,
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I'm always try to take something away from it, even if it's knowing how
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not to do it, you know what I mean. So it's like unless
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you you know, you gotta double your failures to double your successes, you
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know what I mean, There's no way that if you're not trying shit and
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not seeing exploring different options and seeing what works for you or don't work for
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you, where you thrive at, where you don't thrive at. And it's
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like factoring all that stuff together to try to make the most informed decision to
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you know, be as happy as you can be. And it's like that's
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like a part of like being in relationships, like not even just with a
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spouse, but like just in general. That I kind of feel like is
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like one very noticeable thing about certain people that don't have too many healthy relationships.
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They always try to like make their people around them live a life like
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in line with what they're in line with, you know what I mean.
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It's like and they really they just don't want to understand that you live a
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different way, you know what I mean. That That's something big, bro,
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That's something big that I discussed with with one of my one of my
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close friends and it's like if the person that left when I went to Vegas,
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it's nothing who I am today. So if we haven't really talked or
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hung out in the last three years, I feel like you don't know me
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anymore, you know. For those who I really haven't kept who haven't kept
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up with me, whoever really know what's going on, and they think I'm
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coming back as that person who left in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, It's
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like, that's not me, bro, And there's a lot of people who
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are gonna who are not gonna like that. And I don't know how to
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tell people that, like respectfully, Like there's no obligations for me to if
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we haven't seen each other talk in the last three years, there's no obligation
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for me to see you or talk to you in the next three years.
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While I'm here, I've grown, I've changed mentally, my priorities, the
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way I acted, you know, and it's different, and I'm not that
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person anymore. And that's I think that's one of my barriers that I'm actually
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gonna have to deal with the most is just saying no to people. And
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I don't feel like I got to explain myself and not doing the shit I
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used to do before. And that's one of the biggest transitions we're gonna have
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to make because I've changed and that these last three years changed me so much
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that I give a fuck less about how people feel who are in my circle
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and don't care anymore. And it's it's that's something I think about a lot
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too, like I'm not that same person man, like that that those three
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years changed me a lot, and for the best, for sure, you
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know what I thinks. No, it's just something I'm gonna have transition to
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while I'm here. For sure. What I was gonna say is, you
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know what I think is the dopest thing about like actually being away for a
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little while, because for me, it's been about almost two years now since
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I've been out of Orlando, and you know, just kind of going to
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your point of like those people that you haven't really communicated with since you've been
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away, it's like, you know, I see that as situational relationship,
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you know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, my proximity of
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me being in that area or us being around each other for whatever reason,
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is why we had a relationship. And once I left there was really not
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much stit more there, you know what I'm saying, And like actually being
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able to step away and give yourself that space gives you that clarity, you
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know what I'm saying on what relationships to prioritize and what relationships to you know,
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keep where they are. And I think that's kind of one of the
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most refreshing things that, like, you know, how you just spoke about
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it, Like if I was to go back to Orlando, I know there's
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some relationships where you know, it just wouldn't be the same because it's like
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it didn't you know what I'm saying. It didn't last when I wasn't here,
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So why would I, you know, prioritize it when I'm here?
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You know. Yeah. I always feel like it's like one of those things
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that as you continue to like value life more and you continue to prioritize your
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life more, just things just fall by the wayside and if our paths don't
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cross, our paths don't cross, and that's it is what it is,
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you know. I Mean that's kind of just how I deal with it myself.
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Like I don't think it's anything that I'm doing wrong. I don't think
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it's anything you doing wrong. It's just if our paths don't cross paths on
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across. You know, it's kind of like I said, like we know
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when you when you mess with somebody, it's like that you you accept them
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for what they are and what they do, and your lives intersect at those
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opportunities where it can intersect, you know what I mean. If you're in
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a different space that somebody can't intersect with what you on, then that's just
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as what it is, what it is, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, And that's one thing I talked about today. Golfing with the homie
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is like it SPIKEE me living in Vegas for the last three years. Like
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for example, you guys, you guys have met my wife multiple times,
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you know, despite me living in Vegas, Spike living in Atlanta. So
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if I've been known her for four years, married for three years, and
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you've never met her and we haven't hung out in like six seven years,
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why would I just bring you into my life? Like you know, what
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obligation do happen? I think as I think a lot of people do that
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and they set themselves us up for stress and like they overwhelmed themselves people pleasing.
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It's like, I'm not I'm not doing that. That's something that I
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really want to focus on not doing. Coming back to the something I spoke
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to my wife about, it's like, I really want to be smart about
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anybody new, why bring into my life because everybody who's in my life she's
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met personally face to face multiple times. And I'm not going to bring someone
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out of nowhere just because we used to be cool back in the day.
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And that's that's a balance someone. That's probably my biggest balance coming back for
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sure. Share that that's a big thing, man, that people pleasing and
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just kind of letting that go, like in general with everybody is like just
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always going to be such a huge relief because you get into the cycle and
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everybody gets everybody gets it. You know with certain people where they just want
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to be don't They don't want to be the bad guy so much that you
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end up being the bad guy to yourself without really even noticing, you know
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what I mean, Like all of a sudden, you're the one that suffering
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at every turn because you're trying to make sure everybody else is straight. And
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it's like nobody even told you to do that. You know what I'm saying,
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Some people we just take these tasks on ourselves, and then internally you
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mad at people for not appreciating what you're doing when it's like they never asked
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for you to do that anyway, you know what I mean. And it's
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like that's why, like it's so important to connect with the people that have
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that same kind of value that you have, because if you see that somebody
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is not on the same type of time you want, you just got to
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accept it and move accordingly, Like, oh, Okay, you're not my
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type of person. It don't mean you bad. It don't mean I'm bad.
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You're just not my type of person. It don't mean we not cool.
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It don't mean there's an issue. You're just not my type of person.
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It's just that simple, right shoes. Hey man, speaking of people
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pleasing, how did my dog say thirty years ago? The stuff got something
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to say and dropped an album and didn't say a single word please me.
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Now, I'm just playing that album was pretty dope. I'm not eve gonna
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flex with you. So I was reading online, like some producer pages and
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stuff, and they're all basically saying, well, all he did was drop
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a loop pack for the producers. You know, all the next beats is
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going to be coming out the next couple of months, is gonna be Andre
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three thousand flu samples. Bro's crazy. That's the perfect segue to it,
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though, And I think that's it. He's you know, he's at this
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point in my life where he's not three stacks no more. Mm hmm.
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He can't get back to that, and this is who he is. And
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he's putting something out hoping that whoever accepts it accepted. But this is who
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he is. Like I've seen something that they say he can't rap like he
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was in out Cast ever again, because he's not that personal one that you
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gotta see that. Yeah I did. Yeah, I mean, you know,
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just from the interview that I saw, you know, it was a
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I'm glad he did that interview. And even with him doing that interview,
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he basically said in the interview that like, you know, I don't even
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really want to do this, you know what I'm saying, But at the
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same time I kind of got to because like, you know, this is
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part of presenting the music, you know what I mean. He's like,
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if it was up to me, and he even say that he was like,
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I got anonymous flute samples out there right now that's under a different name
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that nobody even knows it's me, and there's in some of your favorite songs.
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But I just told him to keep it anonymous, you know what I
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mean. And so it's like when you kind of take that's what I was
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thinking. I was like, well, I got to be him a mask
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off. That was a sample. I was a sample. Okay, he
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said it was him. Who wasn't no idea who is that? I don't
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know the mask off? Like an old song or who was it that produced
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that song. They came out and said that it was him, but you
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don't know allegedly. But at the same time, it was a sample.
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But maybe they had him replay it, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes
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they'll have you replay it so they don't have to pay the royalties and stuff.
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Mm hmm, So that it could have it could have been him,
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You never know. I mean, man, I'm just kind of like fascinated
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with how like it's like it's almost like I I just like seeing him work
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through it because he's like so tormented about it. I feel like, you
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know what I mean. And that's the part that, like every interview that
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I see one hundred two thousand is the part that's always super intriguing to me.
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It's like just kind of getting in his mind of like as a creative
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as somebody that has put out masterpieces where his headspaces, as far as like
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creating in the form that like really like his first love. You know what
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I'm saying, the music like, it's just like as an artist, bro,
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it's super fascinating to me. Man, yeah, I agree, you
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know, And I will be the one to say I was talking Hella Hella
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John about you know, when I found out about the Flu album, but
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you know, I did give it a listen, and it's actually, you
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know, pretty nice. It's like I read online somewhere that somebody said,
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you know, it was a nice cleanse from what we've been listening to,
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and I was like, man, that's that's a great way to put it,
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because it was just super like refreshing. And then on top of that,
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you know, most people expecting or looking for some kind of hip hop
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from Andre three thousand and hearing what they got it was like not just surprising,
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but almost like a WUSA moment. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
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Yeah, it's a therapeutic sound. And it's like just just having people
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check it out puts them in a different kind of mind state. It settles
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your mind in a certain way as opposed to listening to hip hop, you
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know what I mean. And it's definitely a different kind of vibe that he's
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trying to bring, you know what I mean. And that's like, like
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I was saying, that's the interesting part to me, is like trying to
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kind of figure out like where he's thinking as far as I mean, what
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he's thinking as far as like creating and what's next for him creating wise is
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and thinking about what he can do like to satisfy us and his own artistic
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vision, you know what I mean. Because like even in that interview he
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was saying, like what I'm gonna talk about like having to go get checked
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out at the doctor and stuff like that, Like I'm old whatever. It's
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like bruh, Andre three thousand talking about growing up dog Like that would be
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my bag right now, thanks, you know what I'm saying, Like some
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grown man Andre three thousand, Like Dog I would be I'll be riding to
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that all day long, like that's like, that's what I like about Jake
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Cole, you know what I mean, Like his music matures with him and
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like you, like I tell a lot of like young dudes that I know,
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like you just you ain't lived enough for this yet, you know what
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I'm saying, Like they're in a different stage, like when you're in your
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early twenties, mid twenties. Like a lot of that Jake Cole ain't gonna
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hit like it's gonna hit later because he's coming from like a life experience standpoint.
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You know what I'm saying. He's an older dude too, dropping his
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music and go ahead. Now, I was just gonna say, if anybody
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could make some old man rapers on undreds two thousand, bro, I mean,
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yeah, his level of storytelling is ridiculous. But what I was gonna
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say was, I didn't know until I saw that interview that Speakerbox The Love
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Below is the highest uh selling rap album of all time. I didn't know
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that. And so to go from that to yeah, to go from that
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to being able to basically walk around and play a flute like real talk,
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like you know what I mean, that's that's impressive within itself where it's like
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people recognize him, but he's been going so long that they're like, is
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that is that? You know what I mean? And for him, like
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you know, if I'm just kind of comparing next to the Joe thing,
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you know what I'm saying, Like you come back four or five years later,
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you're not on the same thing. You don't care about the stats,
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you you know what I'm saying. I'm here with my wife. I'm on
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peace, you know what I'm saying. And it's like it's really really dope
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to kind of see that growth and maturity in him, you know, as
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artists and and and accepting it. He's accepting. He's not he's not putting
24:15
it out to regain his old fans, to regain that love and admiration people
24:21
have for three stacks when he was you know, like that. He doesn't
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care about that. He's this is what I am. This is what I'm
24:27
putting up now. Probably could care less of the sales and the and the
24:32
and the wars and the accolades. I bet he feels great that he was
24:37
able to put something out that he loves and that's it, and that's where
24:41
it ends. And he's himself and he's true to himself. That's that's a
24:45
dope. That's a dope thing to grasp as you get older all around in
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life, man, everybody needs to reach that point where they're just doing it
24:53
for themselves. A lot of people still not doing that that are older than
24:57
him or or getting there. You know, they don't do it for themselves.
25:02
They do it for everybody else but themselves. That's that's something to grab,
25:07
that's something good to live by. Yeah, it's kind of crazy,
25:10
man, because like that's a perfect transition to the next topic. Because you
25:14
got somebody like Andre three thousand that's in this you know, late forties early
25:18
fifties age range, a hip hop person that we've grown up with, a
25:23
crucial part of that golden era nineties two thousands, and he went in that
25:30
direction to piece. He kind of stepped away from the limelight and everything.
25:33
And then you got somebody that was popping at the same time in Diddy,
25:37
that was just on a whole other type of time. Man. Like we've
25:41
all heard like all different like Diddy rumors that always go around, but somehow
25:48
these rumors are new bro like the stuff that I mean, it's it's not
25:53
a rumor it's an allegation. So these allegations from Cassie Bro these are things
25:59
that like as far as like hip hop circles and just like general knowledge of
26:03
the public and people that keep up with hip hop like that, Like,
26:07
these are things that nobody really knew about, you know what I'm saying,
26:11
blowing up Kid Cutty his car allegedly. Yeah, it's good a quick rundown
26:15
to some of the allegations that are Yeah, let me let me pull it
26:22
up real quick. Matter of fact, give me one second. It started
26:26
with Cassie, right, Yeah, it was Cassie, which is a bad
26:32
boy artist. You know, everybody, if you follow music, you definitely
26:36
know who Cassie is and did he and they were kind of like a thing
26:38
for like ten years or so. But while it's definitely crazy, I'm about
26:47
to pull it up, right, we getting today? You know what's kind
26:49
of funny before any of this came out, It's new album How We Changed.
26:55
He changed his name to like Love right love Love something yep, just
27:02
Love Brother Love, I think, or just Love Brother Love. When I
27:06
actually listened to this album, I felt like I was listening to like Life
27:10
after Death. Like he was like kind of saying his goodbye, like his
27:18
exit, and I thought, Okay, maybe it might be his exit from
27:21
the game because he's been doing so much. But now that I think about
27:25
it, it's like maybe he knew the time was coming, like with the
27:29
Tupac allegations. That's where it started, the Tupac allegations and the Cassie allegations,
27:34
and like there's a song he's like try to find love and the pieces
27:40
of me that's left something like that, Like it's like there's nothing left in
27:44
Diddy no more. Like it's he's like I'm done, this is it.
27:47
And that's how I listened to it before I heard anything, and then this
27:51
comes out and it's like it kind of just sums up like I think he
27:53
knew the end of what's coming. Yeah, it's it's definitely like like you
28:00
said, even like during his rollout, it was kind of like he was
28:04
trying to like collect his flowers type thing, you know what I mean,
28:07
Like and like you said, like one last Hurrah type vibe. And you
28:12
know, the main thing that I wanted to say about it is oh,
28:15
and actually, you know, just to bring like bring up some of the
28:18
allegations and of course these are just allegations. They ended up settling the suit,
28:22
which was a civil suit so it wasn't criminal anyway. But basically she
28:29
said that he would force her to have sex with male prostitutes while he watched
28:33
and videotaped it, that he would beat her, that whenever he would find
28:38
out that she was like you know, she would leave him or talk to
28:41
somebody else, she would he would, you know, go stalk her.
28:45
Just saying that he would beat her to the point where she would have to
28:48
like stay in a hotel for a week to like recover. I mean,
28:52
it's like a whole bunch of crazy stuff. And the crazy, like the
28:56
wildest thing to me is all the quote unquote industry insiders that want to have
29:03
like this kind of thing where they come out and say, oh, like
29:06
we been knew that or like now these little stories are coming out and it's
29:08
like, okay, so you're just basically coming out and saying you a coward.
29:14
You know what I'm saying, What does it benefit anybody for you to
29:18
bring this up now when you could assess something when you've seen it, or
29:22
you know what I'm saying, whatever the situation is, And it's like it's
29:26
that music industry stuff. Did he somebody that's a powerful person in the music
29:30
He's in touch with those top five people you know that you need to know
29:34
in music that just make or break if your project is successful or not.
29:40
If he ain't messing with you, nobody's messing with you. And at the
29:44
end of the day, people not going to give up their personal gain and
29:48
the dream that they trying to live or whatever for something like that. And
29:52
to me, this is real crazy. That's why I like somebody like me.
29:56
When it comes to the industry industry side, I try to stay away
29:59
from that as much as possible because there's a way to make it in music
30:03
in a different lane. And it's even like tying back to the one hundred
30:07
three thousand things. He did, what he loved, he put it out.
30:11
It's gonna do what it does, and he's gonna make some money off
30:12
of it. People are gonna sample it. He's gonna make money clearing samples.
30:18
He's gonna make money on with the streams. People are gonna start adopting
30:22
it, and they're probably yoga classes and stuff like that. You know what
30:25
I'm saying. That thing is gonna become a mainstay in the culture anyway,
30:30
just because of what it is, and there's value in music like that,
30:33
Like people don't think about it, but some dope background music. Bro,
30:36
there's so many uses to that that those songs get mad streams, but you
30:40
don't think about it as a stream because it's not a song to you,
30:42
you know what I mean. So it's just it's crazy like the angle you
30:48
could take, you know what I'm saying, Like you can try to conquer
30:52
the world and lose your soul and you know, so to speak, or
30:56
you take the hundred three thousand row where you're like, you know what,
30:59
I'm gonna choose to choose this piece. Yeah, I mean from the standpoint
31:07
of the whole Diddy situation, man, you know, I feel like it
31:11
was kind of like a bubbling up, you know what I mean, Like
31:15
everybody kind of saw random allegations coming out here and there, and then you
31:18
know, obviously that those allegations from Cassie was kind of just like the nail
31:25
in the coffin, and you know, even the speed at which he settled
31:29
was kind of like, oh, I don't look good, you know what
31:32
I mean, Like that looks really bad. You know, but I mean
31:37
again, you know, going to what you said, you know, he
31:38
went down a totally different half, stayed in the limelight. You know,
31:44
he chose the the I guess, the money and fame route over the peaceful
31:48
route. And I mean, you know he's where he is, and you
31:52
know, ultimately who's richer in this if if, if this all, if
32:00
it happens to come out, or if it did come out as it was
32:04
all true, would it affect any way you were a fan of Diddy?
32:09
And because I could think about it, I don't really listen to Diddy music.
32:14
I listened to bad boy music. I don't think it would affect anything
32:20
of how I live today, Like if like when our Kelly shit happened,
32:23
you know, or when Chris Brown stuff happened, like if it happened with
32:28
Diddy, I don't think it would change anything or I really wouldn't care.
32:31
Yeah, I think the only thing that I had that Diddy wise in my
32:35
library because I looked it up, was the Usher song I don't know from
32:40
like one of his first albums, you know what I'm saying. Like,
32:43
so I didn't even you know what I'm saying, Like I was just even
32:45
curious kind of like you were saying, like track, Yep, that was
32:51
like that was the only thing. I don't think it would affect you know,
32:53
that aspect of it. I think for you know, for anything,
32:58
or you know, it would really just affect his legacy. You know what
33:00
I'm saying. It's like, let's be real, bro, if it wasn't
33:04
for like, even with all of the random allegations that Michael Jackson had,
33:08
you know what I'm saying, He's still the goat, but it did kind
33:14
of tarnersh it for a lot of you know what I'm saying exactly, So
33:15
that's that's kind of what it is. Yeah, man, But uh,
33:22
it's about that time, man, We about to get to wrapping up.
33:25
Gonna cut it a little short this week then we've been doing. Usually it's
33:29
still like the same amount of time that we used to do, but lately
33:31
we've been running a little long. I mean, let us know, if
33:35
y'all like him shorter longer a yo. But either way, by next week,
33:38
we're all gonna be set up like one hundred percent ready to go,
33:44
you know what I'm saying. Joe's in town. I'm real excited about just
33:49
having the opportunity to link up creatively, like what kind of we were talking
33:52
about earlier, man, Like just being like with the one hundred two thousand
33:54
things, like just being able to create and enjoy creating. Dog Like,
33:59
That's that's all the goal is, you know what I'm saying. As far
34:00
as like somebody that's into the arts, you know what I mean, And
34:05
as long as you can do that, that's all that matters. Yeah,
34:09
And that's the main thing, man, coming back to tap in to continuously
34:14
be creative and something that I let go way before I left to Vegas and
34:19
I tap back into it. I was out there thankful for y'all, thankful
34:23
for everybody around me supported it. Not leaving that and now being closer to
34:28
the Leicester, being closer to my boy Gary, being close to the Unk,
34:34
being close to the Quincy even now when he takes a drive down and
34:37
visits and around all my people who are creative and we can just continuously just
34:44
keep me in that mind state. I'm super grateful for that. And that's
34:46
another plus, And that's another change that I want to keep with me for
34:52
sure while I'm here. Yeah, man, But real quick, like on
34:58
some low key shit, man, Like that's that's like the way you make
35:02
something real. Like that's the way you make something real special happen is when
35:07
you have a group of people that are like locked in with the same kind
35:13
of mentality and just like they're all just in that right mindset slash right time
35:19
of their life like to make some real stuff happen, you know what I
35:22
mean. That's like the lightning in the bottle that like makes your breaks.
35:25
Like the specialness of like what people got going on. I feel like,
35:29
you know, I mean, I always feel like whenever you listen to the
35:31
story of how somebody made it, like no matter what you're talking about,
35:35
they had a nice support system of all people that were excellent, you know
35:39
what I mean, And it's hard to find them people, bro because like
35:43
everybody not excellent, you know what I mean. But it's dope like starting
35:46
to like put all them pieces together. Like Joe's even saying he's coming back
35:51
thinking a different way, moving a different way, making sure everything is in
35:54
line with what he's trying to do. Quincy's on the same time, where
35:59
everything he's doing one is to build the future, to make everything you know
36:04
better for him down the line, everybody just thinking the same way and trying
36:07
to build the same way. That's like the key to like making something special
36:12
that last, you know what I mean? Twenty eight episodes a way from
36:17
one hundred in between there. I think we need to have an an Atlanta
36:22
episode. We're definitely gonna have episode that Leicester's once I get my ship set
36:29
up, Quincy's in town, we have an episode in my spot far We're
36:34
gonna We're gonna do a lot more, man, We're gonna do a lot
36:36
more. It's gonna be get We got some collapse coming. Uh. We
36:39
got a lot of shit happening rolling up, man, and it's gonna be
36:43
good. It's a lot more involvement. Oh man, I'm just I'm just
36:46
ready to jump into it. Yeah. Man, I can't wait till for
36:51
either one of y'all to pull up because like the way I set up my
36:53
spot now, like I rearrange the whole studio and it's just pretty much set
36:58
up like to create you know what I'm saying, content music anything, bro.
37:02
Like even just the way I set up the couch now and the way
37:07
it's set up, like you can set up the camera and it just looks
37:09
perfect, Like everything is just optimal. I was just talking to Freddy before
37:14
we got on the pot and I was like, Bro, this year,
37:16
my mentality is output. I'm trying to create, create, create, I'm
37:21
trying to put out as much as I can from every aspect so I can
37:23
have as much comeback as I can, you know what I mean. Like,
37:27
I'm just focused on that this year. And it's like that's the goal
37:30
that I've been on, like this producing journey, the mixing journey, the
37:35
salon journey, the shop journey, like everything is just all coming together to
37:39
just be able to produce. Like I said, And at the end of
37:44
the day, Bro, you can't double your success be on w your failure.
37:46
So I've been through the failures, man, I was time to make
37:50
that flip you hear me? Yes, after act after a puppy not not
39:40
up, not not at not not not not thin acting