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Ross Fulton Analysis: What Can Ohio State Offense's Improve After Indiana? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning from Friday, December twelfth, Im'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom Or the Cotton Bowl game in nineteen days,
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  Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in three hundred and fifty one days.
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  Speaker 1: On today's show, we're going to be taking a look
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  Speaker 1: at the Ohio State offense and how they performed in
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  Speaker 1: some good ways and some bad ways against the Indiana Hoosiers.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to be welcoming in our buddy Ross Fulton,
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  Speaker 1: a reservation today. All right, So this show, on the
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  Speaker 1: last one we did just Ohio State in the red zone,
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  Speaker 1: because lord knows, there was plenty to talk about there.
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  Speaker 1: This one, we're kind of do having two separate conversations.
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  Speaker 1: One is about some of the stuff that Indiana did
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  Speaker 1: to take away some of the things Ohio State wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do, and then another one is going to be
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  Speaker 1: you know, towards the end, we're going to get into Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here's some of the stuff that did go well for
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State and maybe some of the stuff that Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State should be looking to do moving forward. So we're
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  Speaker 1: going to start with some of the stuff that Indiana
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  Speaker 1: did to make the Ohio State offense ineffective and ross.
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  Speaker 1: This first one a pretty obvious choice for this first
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  Speaker 1: part of the show. This is the interception that Julian's
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  Speaker 1: saying through what went wrong here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I should have started the last our earlier
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  Speaker 2: show talking about you know, both per sp plus and
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  Speaker 2: partner flembings.
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  Speaker 3: How bad do we get beat?
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State outperformed Indiana on a down totown basis in
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  Speaker 2: this game, so you know, not by a ton, but
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  Speaker 2: it's sort of one of those if you played one
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  Speaker 2: hundred times, you would expect with how Ohio State performed
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  Speaker 2: down and down, they should win the game more often
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  Speaker 2: than not.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, not all is lost obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Looking at the things, a lot of things that need improved,
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  Speaker 2: but it's I certainly don't think anything's broken per se.
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  Speaker 2: But the one thing Indiana is this kind of gives
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  Speaker 2: you Indiana's game plan, which was they wanted to find
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  Speaker 2: as many ways to get to split safety coverage concepts
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  Speaker 2: as you could. To cap Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate,
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  Speaker 2: you know a lot of like what would be called
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  Speaker 2: as here non traditional Tampa. And by that I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so they're playing Tampa, you know, the too deep with
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  Speaker 2: the pole runner five hunder, but guys are coming from
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  Speaker 2: different spots, So a lot of times they'd like drop
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  Speaker 2: out a linebacker defensive end to play at the boundary flat,
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  Speaker 2: the corner would roll back as one of the deep
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  Speaker 2: haaf inverted and then you're kind of rotating over right.
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  Speaker 2: But you also saw like some of like the you
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  Speaker 2: know cover six we've talked about before, like cover four
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  Speaker 2: to one side, cover.
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  Speaker 3: Two to the other.
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  Speaker 2: Just different looks like that, and with like sim pressure,
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  Speaker 2: some guys coming from a different places. The upshot of
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  Speaker 2: all that is that I don't neither the offensive line
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  Speaker 2: or pass protection more generally, or Julian Sane wherever really
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  Speaker 2: comfortable in my opinion with what they were seeing. I
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  Speaker 2: think you could see that Insyan's feet and his progression.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's been really good this year at stepping
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  Speaker 2: up in the pocket getting the ball out sort of
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  Speaker 2: started to drift, you know, misguys. In addition to these examples,
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  Speaker 2: I you know, put a couple on X throughout the
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  Speaker 2: week you can see. But you know, I think this
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  Speaker 2: obviously had a big impact early in the game. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, Ohio States running hank here. We've talked about
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  Speaker 2: this a lot, this curl flat concept. If you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of my critiques would be, like, need to come
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  Speaker 2: up with some other sort of timing mid range passes besides.
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  Speaker 3: Running curl flat all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Curl flats designed for Cover three and obviously here, as
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  Speaker 2: I said, indianas in Tampa two, so it's not great here.
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  Speaker 2: But also just you can tell Saane's not really seeing
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  Speaker 2: things well this game because the way Ohio State reads
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  Speaker 2: this is that middle sit route which he throw us
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  Speaker 2: here to Brandon Innis is the first read. But he's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to read the squeeze, which is just a term
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  Speaker 2: for like what are the linebackers doing? Like if the linebackers,
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  Speaker 2: why and you throw that pass. If they stay tight,
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  Speaker 2: you work to the curl. The linebackers are pretty height here,
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  Speaker 2: and so even with this not being a great concept
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  Speaker 2: against Tampa, he should have came off to the white
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  Speaker 2: side and Colonel tATu is open as you can see here,
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  Speaker 2: So you know, just not comfortable. I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: game he's gonna learn from. We're gonna have a couple
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  Speaker 2: few more examples. And obviously, like you couldn't get that
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  Speaker 2: back out in the flat because of the sim pressures
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  Speaker 2: we talked about a lot, so that kind of throws
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  Speaker 2: off like having that route distribution as well, and so
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  Speaker 2: offensive line picks it up okay here, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: as we've said in the previous video, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this bringing pet pressure from the field, dropping the majory
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  Speaker 2: and rotating coverage and it just sort of created some
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  Speaker 2: clunkiness for High of State throughout.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing that created some clunkiness for Ohio State is
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the offensive line had not.
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  Speaker 3: A great game.
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  Speaker 1: I think probably safe to say, especially the right side
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  Speaker 1: of the offensive line. And this is one of those
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  Speaker 1: plays where you can sort of understand why Julian San
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  Speaker 1: gets happy feet because Philip Daniels kind of gets pushed
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  Speaker 1: right back into him.
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  Speaker 2: This is another example where yeah, saying I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a combiny rate of the offensive line play and saying.
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  Speaker 2: But I like to take a step back here, Like
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  Speaker 2: part of it, too, is the Ohio State game plan.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of these like deeper developing routes and concepts
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  Speaker 2: really trying to push the vault Paul vertically. And I
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  Speaker 2: guess some of that is because of the way Indiana
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  Speaker 2: was playing, with like their linebackers being pretty aggressive in
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  Speaker 2: the box against the run, as we'll discuss, But like,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think when a quarterback and the offensive
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  Speaker 2: line are like not comfortable with what's happening, like it's
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  Speaker 2: not setting you up for success. Like they ran this
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  Speaker 2: scissors concept two times right at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: second quarter and on that two minute drive, and then
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  Speaker 2: they came out the third quarter and ran it one
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  Speaker 2: time led to this throwaway, one time led to a sack.
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  Speaker 3: You know, these are.
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  Speaker 2: Deep developing routes, right, So it's just taking time. And like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this really plays to saying strengths like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: he's they have. They're in a very explosive passing game,
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  Speaker 2: and you want to take advantage of Smith at Tate
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  Speaker 2: obviously down the field. But I do think like and
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  Speaker 2: we could talk about this going forward. Just like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think saying like is at his best with sort
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  Speaker 2: of timing routes like RPO, you know, hitting those curl
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  Speaker 2: routes in time, getting the ball out you know, on
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  Speaker 2: the move. And so I just think that they kind
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  Speaker 2: of put him in a tough spot here, Like in hindsight,
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  Speaker 2: they should have been like the way the linebackers are
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  Speaker 2: playing to like make up for you know, Indiana having
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  Speaker 2: two deep safeties obviously that takes them out of the
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  Speaker 2: play right And so they did that a lot. You
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  Speaker 2: did get some cover three, but mostly these two deep looks,
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  Speaker 2: and so the linebackers for Indiana were really aggressive against
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  Speaker 2: the run. And we talked about how the defensive line
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  Speaker 2: was condensed down that sort of left that like middle
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  Speaker 2: of the field open behind the linebackers, and we'll show
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  Speaker 2: some ways they took advantage of it, but like, really
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  Speaker 2: they should have been working Jeremiah Smith and Colonel Tate
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  Speaker 2: like on those linebackers, especially if Indiana is going to
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  Speaker 2: play three linebackers the whole game. But so you get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these deep concepts, you know, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: like when you look at the protection itself, you're getting again,
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  Speaker 2: like you're they're showing, they're showing a creeper. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Philip Daniels is too wide here, like he you have
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  Speaker 2: the tight end helping you, so like you don't need
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  Speaker 2: to get that kind of a drop, like you got
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  Speaker 2: this half slide. You know, three guys going to the
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  Speaker 2: right and then Big on Big to the left. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: so you end up with Luke Montgomery no One and
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  Speaker 2: Daniels gets beat inside with this stunt, saying also again,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I'm talking about, like the things working together,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's been so good in the pocket, it just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't quite there for him this year, like he should be.
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  Speaker 2: There's space there for him to slide over and and
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, Smith is open here, like he just
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  Speaker 2: needs to give himself enough room to throw the football.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, obviously like Teger Shiavolo was not good
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  Speaker 2: in past protection. Uh he got benched at one point
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  Speaker 2: after you know he did like lose one on one
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  Speaker 2: and give up that sack. Plenty of other guys had
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  Speaker 2: their strugg and past protection in terms of picking up
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  Speaker 2: the different kinds of stunts and sim pressures.
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  Speaker 3: But there was you know, other.
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  Speaker 2: Contributing factors, and as I said, like I would not
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  Speaker 2: say either the pass protection or saying we're sort of
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  Speaker 2: on their game in terms of handling the pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Coming into the game. We had talked about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that this is a very good linebacker unit for Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: and you were just talking about how aggressive they were
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  Speaker 1: in the run game. This next one is a great
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  Speaker 1: example of Indiana's linebackers being very effective in bottling up
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  Speaker 1: Ohio States run game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously you know a lot of frustration as
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  Speaker 2: I've expressed as well with these like super heavy packages, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like here's another thirteen personal run. Like Max Siskano, who
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  Speaker 2: has a great thread on sort of what Indiana was doing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, from a sort of an outsider perspective, and
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  Speaker 2: how High State responded. You know, he makes the point
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  Speaker 2: like like here Indiana isn't covered too right, and there
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  Speaker 2: you got thirteen. You've got Jeremiah Smid to the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: So like you're kind of getting what you want if
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  Speaker 2: you're a High of State by like they are clouding Smith.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got those two defensive backs to one side,
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  Speaker 2: and so you know, when you're doing that in theory,
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  Speaker 2: you get while I State may have thought, let's get
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  Speaker 2: heavy then and run the football if they're going to
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  Speaker 2: try to take you know, take away the pass game.
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  Speaker 3: The problem was like.
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  Speaker 2: As we talked about near the goal line as well,
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  Speaker 2: Like their response was, hey, they're playing three linebackers, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes they were playing four linebackers.
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  Speaker 3: There were five to three.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know we talked about like they were
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  Speaker 2: condensing down the defensive line right and so and then
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  Speaker 2: all these stunts so like you see it here from behind,
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  Speaker 2: so like they're they're crashing down and then the backside
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  Speaker 2: three technique when he sees you know, Luke Montgomery Pole
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  Speaker 2: because you know, as we talked about, a high state
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  Speaker 2: was running a lot of gap plays right where you're pulling,
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  Speaker 2: so they would just mirror the polar right, so he
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  Speaker 2: comes over the top, and so you've got you know,
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  Speaker 2: Carson Hinsman and gay Van Sickle worried about blocking back
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  Speaker 2: on the zero and three technique, and so they take
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  Speaker 2: really lateral steps and then that allows that defensive end
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  Speaker 2: to come over the top.
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  Speaker 3: No one can get to the backside linebackers.
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  Speaker 2: As you said, those linebackers are playing like straight downhill
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  Speaker 2: and so they're just not able to get to the
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  Speaker 2: second level. So again, it's not like you know, there
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  Speaker 2: are times where they are high state run game worked.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't all bad, right, you know, the two really
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  Speaker 2: long drives in the second half. Obviously the second half
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  Speaker 2: game plan is we'll discuss, like improved on some of
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  Speaker 2: these things. But it just was a little too inconsistent
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  Speaker 2: to sustain drives. And obviously when you add that to
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  Speaker 2: the red zone issues, all right.
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  Speaker 1: One more and then we will get to the good stuff,
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  Speaker 1: I promise. But this is another one where there was
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  Speaker 1: probably some stuff downfield that you didn't necessarily get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to see on TV. But when you have you
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  Speaker 1: have pressure coming in your face or you have to
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  Speaker 1: step up in the pocket, sometimes you just have to
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  Speaker 1: you miss those opportunities and have to throw one away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I again, I think this kind of falls under
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  Speaker 2: the category of like they did know this was late
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  Speaker 2: in the second half in Ohio State. You know, this
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  Speaker 2: drive did not stall out. They keep going here. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think there were like some opportunities downfield that
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  Speaker 2: were missed, you know, or one part of the game
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  Speaker 2: they did get in thirteen personnel did a heavy play
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  Speaker 2: action offendense that was saying when he was sacked. When
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  Speaker 2: that was when Shibola got beat. This one to me
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  Speaker 2: like the gotten pistol. Right, so they're giving a heavy
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  Speaker 2: run look and you know Indiana spins down.
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  Speaker 3: So this is one of those times they do get.
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  Speaker 2: Them in single coverage or single high and it's like
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  Speaker 2: a deep over from Innis and then you get that
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  Speaker 2: backside dig behind it again. I kind of put this
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  Speaker 2: under like sort of saying feeling the pressure because I
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  Speaker 2: do not think he needed to throw this away, like
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  Speaker 2: he needed to step up the pocket. Yes, they do
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  Speaker 2: like a full slide here because of the protection problem.
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  Speaker 2: So everyone on the offensive line is like taking the
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  Speaker 2: gap to the right and then they let the tight
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  Speaker 2: ends handle the backside and you know, willcas America is
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  Speaker 2: kind of beat here.
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  Speaker 3: But really like saying just.
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  Speaker 2: Needs to step up in the pocket and get back
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  Speaker 2: and hit that backside curl to Smith, I think like
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  Speaker 2: sort of the one area that you know, throughout the
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  Speaker 2: year we're saying could improve is like working these like
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  Speaker 2: concepts where he comes back to like these deeper like
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  Speaker 2: dig backside dig or curls to Smith, I think he
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  Speaker 2: kind of keeps missing some of these, you know, getting
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  Speaker 2: his way through the progression. I again, like I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a game where, like you know, saying he's still
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  Speaker 2: a retrofreshman, I think he'll he'll learn from this. And obviously,
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  Speaker 2: like he wasn't super comfortable, but it's just sort of
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  Speaker 2: as you said, there there were opportunities out there, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's like these downfield passes or you know, like Brian
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  Speaker 2: Day talked about we talked about earlier this week, like
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  Speaker 2: you know, bo Jackson getting tripped up after like five
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  Speaker 2: or six yards one on one. You know, just these
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  Speaker 2: little things that like you're missing, you know, missing explosives
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  Speaker 2: that could have made a difference.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So now we're going to get to an
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  Speaker 1: explosive that they didn't miss. So you can now safely
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  Speaker 1: feel you know, feel free to not watch, like with
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  Speaker 1: your fingers over your eyes. This is the long one
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  Speaker 1: downfield to Jeremiah Smith, which you know, it's it's great
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  Speaker 1: that they found this one. I'm sure they were hoping
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  Speaker 1: they could find it a couple more times, but it
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  Speaker 1: is good to know that they do still have this
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  Speaker 1: club in their bag, even against a pretty good Indiana defense.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know, I wouldn't want anyone to get
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  Speaker 2: The thought is that they weren't you know, weren't trying
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  Speaker 2: to get the football to Smith and Tate or like,
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  Speaker 2: weren't taking advantage when they had opportunities to do so.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I thought they were pretty effective, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like Indiana really did not want to give them opportunities downfield,
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  Speaker 2: but the few times they did, I do think they
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  Speaker 2: took advantage of it. And you know, so this is
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  Speaker 2: one where it's like pretty static from Indiana. They're in
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  Speaker 2: cover four. Obviously they get this you know, downfield shot.
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  Speaker 2: You know, would have liked to probably seen the ball
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  Speaker 2: out a little bit more. This is again another one
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  Speaker 2: of those like you know, if Smith doesn't get tripped up,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he scores a touchdown here and you know, who
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  Speaker 2: knows what happens from there would have been a big
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  Speaker 2: difference because this drive ends in a field goal. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, they had a few opportunities when they got
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  Speaker 2: single coverage to get it to Smith. So you get
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  Speaker 2: why strategically, like they want to get to the point
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  Speaker 2: where they can get you know, no force a team
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  Speaker 2: into single covering him or like vertical stems against him
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  Speaker 2: and take to get the football downfield. It's just you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have to kind of a like, obviously you want
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  Speaker 2: to take advantage of it when you get it, but
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  Speaker 2: b you can't force it so much. I do think
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  Speaker 2: that there's like a little bit of like, let's you know,
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  Speaker 2: we got to take what's there a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: rather than like trying to hunt explosives.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that is nice about playing a team where
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  Speaker 1: the linebackers are being aggressive is you can take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of that. Sometimes you can make that work for you
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  Speaker 1: instead of against you. This next play is a good
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  Speaker 1: example of that good play action. The Indiana linebackers crash
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  Speaker 1: pretty hard and that sets up a bootleg and a
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  Speaker 1: nice easy throw to Max Clayer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what they needed to get to earlier.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously they hit it a few times. But as
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  Speaker 2: you said, like when you get the combination of like
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  Speaker 2: deep safeties with you know, playing linebackers playing the run
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  Speaker 2: action hard like this is this kind of stuff's open.
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  Speaker 3: Now this wasn't explosive.
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  Speaker 2: Also, would like to see him actually get this to
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  Speaker 2: smith you deeper in the read. He's very open as well,
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  Speaker 2: and you want to, you know, you want to kind
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  Speaker 2: of read this deep to short if you can, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, hard to complain about getting explosive, but like
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  Speaker 2: as you said, like you can just see how hard
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  Speaker 2: these Indiana linebackers are flowing over the top and when
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to keep you know, this is cover six,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: so they're playing or cover eight, excuse me, or cover six.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: They're playing cover four of the field covered to the boundary.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: So when you got two deep safeties like this and
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: linebackers like that, you're going to open up that middle range.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: And so we're starting to get into things like you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: how can you build off of this or what can
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: you do better? I just think you know saying is
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: also so good in his ball faking from under center
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: and pistol like saw it on the earlier went to Smith.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: They seed here, like how much he looks back Like
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: he's really effective at this and he moves well on
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  Speaker 2: these and throws on the run well. So you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: as I said, like like to see more timing routes
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: for him, like quick game slants, things that attack behind
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: linebackers off play action, and then just getting him out
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: of the pocket like this, like bootlegs, especially when your
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks out a run threat. We talked about that down
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: in the red zone. You know, and having to constrain
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the backside of the defense. Like I'd like to see
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: them be more consistent in this kind of bootleg action,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: including in the red zone.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: One of the things that I was sort of anticipating
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: they were going to lean on a little bit more
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: than they maybe did was the RPO game. When they
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: did it felt like they found some success there. Of
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: This next one is one of the first places. Might
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: have been the first play of the game where Julian
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Saying pulls it and there's an easy throw to Jeremiah
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Smith there.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was pretty hard when I saw this, love thinking, Okay,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: this how they're going to come out.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: This is a good sign. You know, they're in twelve personnel.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: This is probably their best personnel package with Cosmerican Claire
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: on the field, and you know Indiana again like playing
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: cover six here to start with, you have Cover two
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: to Colonel tateside cover Ford Smith and like just taking
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: advantage of these free access throws. I you know, I
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: think that they should wear these out like the way
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: teams have played them all year. You know, Smith and
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Tate could have double digit catches every game, and you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: even if they're for seven or eight yards of pop,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: take advantage of it. Like I'll show there were three
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: or four more examples, including when we're going to show
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: where it was there and Saying handed it off for
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: a short game. But like again, like you can see
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: how the linebackers are playing downhill. The corners have to
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: get depth to protect themselves against Smith and Tate, so
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: you know they're your best players. It went in down
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: get them the ball, I get, you know, I know
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Ryan Dance on the Sunday after the game talked about
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: you know, balance and you know they had thirty five
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: passes and twenty two runs, but at least five or
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: six of those were RPOs. And I mean, again we've
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: talked about ad nauseum. Those are run plays, right, Like
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: this is a call a design run. It's an inside
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: zone except as you can see, like if Saying had
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: handed it off, the Sam linebacker for Indiana is just
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: sitting there in the hole because Ohio State's outnumbered again
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: like they have, you know, seven blockers for eight defenders
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: in the box once that safety comes downhill. So if
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: teams want to play you with three linebackers and you
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: know I want to leave those you know, Smith and
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Tate out there with that cushion, like just keeps throwing
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: them the ball, is my personal opinion.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: All right, next one, we're going with another RPO and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: this is one where I'm going to guess you don't
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: agree with the decision that's made on this one. But
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: this is this ends up as a run that doesn't
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: go very far, but you know, probably probably a couple
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of different choices that you could have made that might
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: have been.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: More productive productive plays here.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was you know, like Cody Alexander's and others
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: on X we're discussing what Indiana you know, how they
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: were stopping the Ohio State run game here and this
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: is another good example. Right like from behind you can
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: see again we got three linebackers. We got the backside
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: or the field defensive end way down in it condensed
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: between the guard and the tackle. Ohio State's running g
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: H counter. You've got to the boundary. The boundary side
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: or the play side defensive end is are pinching inside.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: So it's just it's hard to get to the second level,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: you know, twenty one sort of hiding himself and then
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you have both the corner and the safety playing the run.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: So like a lot of Again by Indiana playing cover two,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: they'd have that boundary corner in the fit and then
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know, backside's flowing hard over the top and so
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: they don't get onto twenty one because they're suck inside
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and so the tight end can't you he pulls around
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and gets the corner. And so because there's two guys
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: there for one blocker. Okay, all that said, like when
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: you go back to the all twenty two of you,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you can see that Smith and Tater running a hitch
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: hitches to the field, and you could, I guess argue
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: that the Sam linebacker sort of holding his water and
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: sitting on the Smith one. But again, like the field
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: corner is getting a lot of depth, like to me,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that should be pulled. And there's a few examples like
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that where I thought, say, should have pulled in. So
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I think of anything they again could lean
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: more into this get the ball out. You know, I'd
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: like to see a little bit more diversity in the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: RPO concepts as well, like you know, you can run
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: a fade an out against his cover four or you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: again like slant routes both in quick game and into
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the RPO game.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And we'll get one more in the one more in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the RPO game, and in the name of play balance,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: we're going to have this is going to be a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: give and this is gonna be you know, this is
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be a nice game for bo Jackson. It feels
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like this was kind of what successful runs look like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for Ohio State, a bunch where if they could get
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it blocked up and get them past the line of scrimmage,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you could you could sort of stay on schedule with
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the run game even if it wasn't super explosive exactly.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So you know, and this is I mean, obviously we
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: talked about like heavy twelve and thirteen personnel and the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you know, I continue to think that like Claire and
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Chasmerica probably like the best personal group. But I do
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: think there's more opportunity to use eleven with Brandon Innis
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: than what they're currently doing just to get things spread out.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Of the box.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: So this is like a slide relief rights with a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: GT counter.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: So and they block GT count really well all year.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: One thing I would note is, like I We've talked
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: about this before, I do think that there's maybe like
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: too many run concepts are using you know, they ran
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: stretched pretty well in this game, but they kind of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: went away from it, like like to see them sort
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of do like inside zone, outside zone and then like
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: you know counter but like they've been pretty good on
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: this GT count all year.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: But again, I think this could be a poll read
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and throw.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: But I just think there's more they can do to
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: sort of get you know, now you've got Indiana, that
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: boundary linebacker or backside linebacker has to get out of
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the box. You're just kind of spreading them out a
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: little bit more. I just think there's more that can
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: be done, particularly how saying is effective getting the ball out,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: do some eleven run our pos off of it. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: then as I said, when you're more like in heavier
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: personnel than then you got to really lean into like
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the play action and boo legs and it. You know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: again like attack these linebackers in the middle of the field.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: If teams are going to play downhill like this.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. There is your second
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: offense breakdown of the weekend or the week. Get a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: chance to look at the red zone the last time.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Get a chance to look at sort of the rest
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of the field on this one for good and for ill.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I have Ross back on next week to take a
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: look at the Ohios date defense and how they did
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: against Indiana. More positive, A more positive show, I'm sure
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: on that one as it has been most of the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: season with Matt Patricia's defense. And when Ross is back,
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• 23:23
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