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Who's making the final 53? | Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 29 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hours pretended by Jet Home Loan. And now the
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  Speaker 1: guy who was the originally scheduled to be last night's
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  Speaker 1: moon man at the Empty V Music Awards, Jay Peace
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  Speaker 1: shad Rick. I'm not aware of that reference, and welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday. I am J. P. Shadrick.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a busy show. Of course. Pro Football of
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  Speaker 1: Fame left tackle Tony Boselli is here. CBS Sports senior
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  Speaker 1: writer Pete Briscoe down in South Florida. The roster cut
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  Speaker 1: coming up this Tuesday. The fanatics fan questions in the
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  Speaker 1: second hour. It will go around the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: as we do each and every Monday. Tony, I was
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  Speaker 1: going through the ratings book from last week and it
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  Speaker 1: was almost an all time high last week. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a hit today because the I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: say a great one, but that wouldn't be accurate. That
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  Speaker 1: would be accurate, That would accurate. PRIs goes back back
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  Speaker 1: back where Sulta in New Orleans. Are those teams gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to the playoffs? Yes, they are. Both of them
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  Speaker 1: who who were they practicing against No. No, they were
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  Speaker 1: both just having regular practices. Minnesota. I went to Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: then the Saints. Uh, Minnesota's got a good team. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna score a ton of points if if they can
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  Speaker 1: stop the run, they're gonna be good. Uh. And as
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  Speaker 1: far as uh, New Orleans, New Orleans has a nasty defense. Nasty.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's just as a matter if Jamison turned
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  Speaker 1: it over. But don't talk about the rating. The ratings
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  Speaker 1: were lower than they've ever been last week. I got
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  Speaker 1: my sources in Jacksonville. I know all about the ratings. Tony.
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  Speaker 1: They plummeted when I wasn't there. You two were probably
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  Speaker 1: given it nothing but two hours a happy talk. I
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  Speaker 1: know how that plays. It was accurate talk, accurate, spot on.
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  Speaker 1: That's what do people want. By the way I do,
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  Speaker 1: I will relay this story from Minneapolis. There is a
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  Speaker 1: guy that works up there now that used to work
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville last year that told me that they would
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  Speaker 1: have him monitor the show to see if I was
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  Speaker 1: saying anything controversy. I have some questions about that, and
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  Speaker 1: I think I know I know where it came from.
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  Speaker 1: It came from down the hall. Who's not there anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But it was it came from Urban and his crew
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  Speaker 1: over there. Well, you were on your best behavior last year, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I must say, like like I told him, I said, look,
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  Speaker 1: I fired the guy. Every every week, I'm gonna I
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  Speaker 1: gotta deny that. And it was a pleasure every single
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  Speaker 1: week to see the look on Tony Besselli's face because
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't say it. Well, I wonder if they took
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  Speaker 1: video samples or something. No, it was good. I mean, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: you were I thought you were fair last year. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it wasn't you would you never attacked you just come.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't a personal attack. It was just get him out
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  Speaker 1: of there, and and uh, ultimately it happened. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they were. It wasn't. Look I would never make a
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  Speaker 1: personal attack on anybody ever. I just wouldn't do that. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you're gonna be an idiot as a coach and
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  Speaker 1: do dumb things, then I will attack those. And I
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  Speaker 1: attacked him right from the get go with the you know, hustle, hustle, hydrate, hydrate,
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  Speaker 1: let's go, let's go team, Rob Ross's boom bah, and
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  Speaker 1: the way he walked up and down the aisle in
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  Speaker 1: the stretching, you know, the stretching lines with every coach,
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  Speaker 1: all fifty two of them that he had. It just was,
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  Speaker 1: it was all. It was all hoax, it was all garbage.
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  Speaker 1: He's out, got a pro in there. Now move forward. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was saying, the good news is we don't talk
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  Speaker 1: about anymore. You think they're still monitoring the show? I
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  Speaker 1: would if I was them, I'd be monitoring everything it
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  Speaker 1: comes out of this. You know, out of Pete you
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  Speaker 1: predicted a playoff record last year. Let's not forget that
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  Speaker 1: earlier the season you thought they might be in the playoffs. No,
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  Speaker 1: I know, first of all, last year, to be clear,
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  Speaker 1: I said they'd win between four and six games. You
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  Speaker 1: said between three and five. But early in preseason, before
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  Speaker 1: we saw it was going on. Remember JP, there was
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  Speaker 1: some hint eight nine somewhere in that ballpark. I remember clearly. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have great memories. Are we gonna wait till
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  Speaker 1: next week to make our predictions for the season for
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  Speaker 1: the season, Yeah, wehould probably do that because that's the
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  Speaker 1: Labor Day Night show and there will be nothing else
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it. Labor Day Night is I'm on
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  Speaker 1: Labor Day, so I'm not sure, I'm gonna be laboring
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  Speaker 1: that day. Oh, you'll be laboring. You're you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: working that day. You've always worked on Labor Day, You've
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  Speaker 1: worked every year. And what now you get an h
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  Speaker 1: O F underneath your name? You don't work on Labor Day?
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  Speaker 1: What the hell is that? Maybe maybe comes with the gold,
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  Speaker 1: probably has an autograph signing he's got to do something. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going you know what I'm doing next weekend. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be in New York, Pete at the US Open. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking my wife and I got a client that
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  Speaker 1: wants to go. See a minute, Hold on, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: the story has changed. Two weeks ago you said you're
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  Speaker 1: going to Colorado your cousins, wife's birthday and Monday, and
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  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you're at the US Open.
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  Speaker 1: Let me meet and I'll be in Colorado Friday. Story straight.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be in Colorado Friday, Saturday, Sunday morning, I fly
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  Speaker 1: to New York for the US Open Monday. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like I'll be doing the show from my hotel in
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  Speaker 1: New York. Amazing. So you're gonna be there all weekend
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a weekend in New York. Then well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean if you consider Sunday and Monday the whole weekend. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: Oh you're not getting there until Sunday. Okay. Still that's
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  Speaker 1: a good, good little trip. Take your wife up, go
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  Speaker 1: and join New York. Be good? Are they gonna interdu
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  Speaker 1: see you before the match? On the on the court
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Tackle Tony here one more time? All
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  Speaker 1: we gotta hear it every time he introduced the show.
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  Speaker 1: So there's Pete Prescotland Hall of a Tackle Tonelli. Should
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  Speaker 1: I should I wear the gold jacket? Because in New
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  Speaker 1: York they might take it from you down Second Avenue
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  Speaker 1: with that? Hey hey, Tony, you too? You were off
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  Speaker 1: So Pete was off list past week on this show,
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  Speaker 1: Tony you, I don't know if you know this, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't do the game on Saturday in Atlanta. I
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  Speaker 1: do not why because it was it was opening weekend
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  Speaker 1: of college football and it was my son's who's last
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  Speaker 1: year of playing college football? Um opening the game, and
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  Speaker 1: so I said, you know what, and Chad Johnson are
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  Speaker 1: fearless leader permission slip. I talked to chat and he said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, last preseason game I think would be
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  Speaker 1: just fine. If you went to see your son plays
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  Speaker 1: for his opening day of his last year playing football,
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  Speaker 1: well he's at f A Tony Yeah, okay, um okay.
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  Speaker 1: So two things about that. One. Loghman was probably thrilled
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  Speaker 1: to Frangie was thrilled because they could actually get some
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  Speaker 1: air talk. Actually, I don't think they were happy because
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  Speaker 1: the last preseason game, if anyone knows the NFL is,
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  Speaker 1: especially when nobody plays, which nobody played, is the most
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  Speaker 1: difficult thing to do the entire year. So Peter cost me.
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  Speaker 1: I had to buy dinner for Mr Frangie and Mr
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  Speaker 1: Logman and guess who tagged along for a freebie? That
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  Speaker 1: would be one JP shattering. I tagged along because I
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  Speaker 1: was invited on these air waves last week out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: I felt guilty. I'm like, I guess I'll go. Then,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you want to do? Not go?
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  Speaker 1: I felt guilty. He was somewhere really expensive to take advantage.
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  Speaker 1: It was good. It wasn't cheap. Where'd you go chops
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  Speaker 1: or something in Atlanta? It was out at this we
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  Speaker 1: we I'll say we stayed at this really nice like
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  Speaker 1: chateau Chateau elan up Um about an hour about an
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  Speaker 1: hour outside of Atlanta, Brazilson, Georgia up seventy five eighty
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  Speaker 1: five excuse me, northeast because it's by Flowery Branch, ten
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  Speaker 1: minute drive to Flow, that's right, Because that's right. It's
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  Speaker 1: way up there. They had a bunch of restaurants on property,
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  Speaker 1: and that was one of the big steakhouse. So did
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  Speaker 1: you go to Flowery Branch for a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: and then go to your your son's game to watch?
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  Speaker 1: I went to watch practice, Um, put time in. It's work,
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  Speaker 1: and then I went to South Florida for what do
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  Speaker 1: you like from practice, Tony? What stood out to you
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  Speaker 1: the most? We're watching the tackles and they were rotating.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that a little later coming up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's good to see another team, right, yeah, I thought, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how good Atlanta is. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think it was clear that in practice we were the
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  Speaker 1: more physical team, which I think is always important. Um. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we only had really one day of practice because the
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  Speaker 1: second day, for whatever reason, they took the pads off
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  Speaker 1: and they were just in shells, so that you can't
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  Speaker 1: really tell anything from that. But I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I thought we did a good job, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: the team looked sharp though, you know, looking at some
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  Speaker 1: of the tape Trevor, you know they were on the
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  Speaker 1: far field, so watching practice, we didn't get to see
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  Speaker 1: Trevor much live. I watched some of the tape afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: and he looked sharp, had some nice throws. I thought
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  Speaker 1: the line moved people around. There was some good running. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: good lanes for the back. So yeah, I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was a very positive overall. Not two days of work
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  Speaker 1: with the with the Falcons, I'm not sure to Pete's point,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how good the Falcons are and how
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  Speaker 1: many games they're gonna win this year. Yeah, it sounded
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  Speaker 1: like Trevor had a really good practice. Couples of that
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  Speaker 1: practice anyways, Well, why did uh, let me ask you something,
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  Speaker 1: why did all those guys sit at all of them
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  Speaker 1: sit out? I mean, did they all need to sit out?
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  Speaker 1: To team that guys can nobody has to play? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a fair point. Um. I think it
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  Speaker 1: always goes feed back to the risk reward. What are
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  Speaker 1: you gonna what are you gonna gain out of Trevor
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  Speaker 1: in that group playing two series? No, not him, but
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  Speaker 1: there's there were some guys that didn't play in that
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  Speaker 1: game that could have played. But okay, you you played
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  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd well because he hadn't had a rep in
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  Speaker 1: a game all year. But he played him into this
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  Speaker 1: almost a half time, didn't they a quarter and a half? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I watched. I just watched the tape today. They were
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  Speaker 1: he was struggling with diagnosing things and being lined up
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  Speaker 1: and knowing where to go and stuff. It looked like
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  Speaker 1: on the tape. I don't know, did you see that
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  Speaker 1: in the game, Tony? Watch it? But I mean, did
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  Speaker 1: you watch watched I watched the tape. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: looked tentative at times. Yes, yes, you know what it
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  Speaker 1: looked like is a rookie playing in his first game ever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he chased out a couple of plays, he
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  Speaker 1: made a couple of plays on the sideline and uh
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  Speaker 1: and chase. He showed off his speed a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it wasn't it was tentative. Is good. It
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  Speaker 1: looked like he was sticking it too much. That could
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  Speaker 1: cause that could make you look pinitive. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: one thing that jumps out is his athletic ability, his length,
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  Speaker 1: his range um, all good things, you know. I expect him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he needed the reps, he needed the time
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  Speaker 1: in that game. So I like that Doug played him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else would you like to see?
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  Speaker 1: Like I, I what was surprised? I didn't play Muma
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  Speaker 1: did Chase on play? Um? I did not see Chason
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  Speaker 1: out there. I would have played Chase, and I agree
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  Speaker 1: with that. Um yeah, I think there was probably a
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  Speaker 1: handful guy's pete, But I'm not sure how much it matters. No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the preseason is even worse now than it
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  Speaker 1: was when you played. It's it's ridiculous and and everybody
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  Speaker 1: overreacts to it. We you know, we used to call
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  Speaker 1: it the Boys of Summer when guys like Curtis Marsh
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  Speaker 1: would show up in Star and then you get to
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  Speaker 1: play real games and nobody knew what they were doing.
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  Speaker 1: I just think we overreact to Preseason'll just unit look
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  Speaker 1: at Belichick's team. Looks like crapper. This team is not
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  Speaker 1: good or that. You can't really tell. You have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: nobody's game planning, nobody's doing anything you don't. You have
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  Speaker 1: no idea what these teams are doing with guys. Let's
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: take a time out the Jaguars have announced their first
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  Speaker 1: wave of cuts. Will come back interesting and bring that
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  Speaker 1: to you. I saw one name that could not surprise me.
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  Speaker 1: Did not, did not. We'll explain that when we returned,
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  Speaker 1: of course, in the second hour. Your fanatics fan questions
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  Speaker 1: will go around the NFL a little later as well.
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  Speaker 1: Some of these guys have really taken advantage of their
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  Speaker 1: situations and their opportunities. And and and Tim was one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys. And and even you know tread Well,
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  Speaker 1: being a veteran player, you know, he uh showed up
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  Speaker 1: in the first half today and it was really good,
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  Speaker 1: really good to see. You know, some of these young
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  Speaker 1: guys take advantage of of the extended you know, extended playtime.
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  Speaker 1: too strong? I've gotten nicer on Twitter. I like call
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  Speaker 1: salty Pete on Twitter. That's a good one. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: mean nowadays you can some you can be salty to
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  Speaker 1: somebody and they'll end up get you fired or something.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to do that anymore. Yeah, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: be careful. Hey, Um, The Jaguars have made roster moves.
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  Speaker 1: They have announced that ten players are waved and or released,
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  Speaker 1: so let's hear them. Linebacker Tyrrell Adams released. He was
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  Speaker 1: a veteran player, defensive lineman a zoyah Alufa high running
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  Speaker 1: back Quel Armstead waved no surprise. Safety Rudy Ford released
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise for special teams. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: great gunner h cornerback Benji Franklin waved no surprise. Offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman Casey McDermott released no surprise. Defensive back Brandon Russnack
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  Speaker 1: waved no surprise. Linebacker Chappelle Russell waved no surprise. Offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman Badera Treor waved that one. There was some talk
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  Speaker 1: that he might actually make it. He had a hamstring
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  Speaker 1: later in camp. I remember that. Yeah, but there was
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  Speaker 1: early there was talked to. But he's a practice squad guy.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be on the practice squad. I think they like him.
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  Speaker 1: Wide receiver La Kwan Treadwell released. Okay, now he can
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  Speaker 1: go back to the practice squad. Yeah, you can have veterans.
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  Speaker 1: There's so and I think that's what they're thinking. And
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  Speaker 1: whereas they think if they might be able to get
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  Speaker 1: something for Chanal, which because there's no way. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about you guys, but I wouldn't have kept Chanal
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  Speaker 1: over Treadwell. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't either. I think
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  Speaker 1: I think tread Will has had a better camp. He
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  Speaker 1: does more for you on special teams. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: a better receiver Tony. I mean, what does she do?
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  Speaker 1: He was as a plump return when they tried that,
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  Speaker 1: that was a disaster. No, that's not gonna work. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So I was surprised by the Chennault one. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be surprised that he's back on this roster at some point. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think interesting. The Quel armstead Um release doesn't surprise me.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think it's in a signal that, um,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna go find another back. Just what about Sergeant?
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  Speaker 1: I think they go find another back. I don't, I
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I think that only two guys guaranteed jobs
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  Speaker 1: on this team are Um James Robinson and Travis E.
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  Speaker 1: T N. I would agree with you. Now. I think
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  Speaker 1: Snoop Connor is probably here because he's a draft picking
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  Speaker 1: teams don't like getting rid of the draft pick. I
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  Speaker 1: just I don't know where Snoop helps you this year.
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  Speaker 1: I have not. I mean, he was a short yardage
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  Speaker 1: back at Old Miss correct. That's what his role was
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  Speaker 1: for the most part. I mean the red zone. He
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  Speaker 1: would break tackles and the guests score. Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of shorter yardage. I mean, he wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: starter at all. Miss right, he played for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: He has a lot of touchdowns because he played all
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  Speaker 1: four years. You're missing my point with you. He looks
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  Speaker 1: like a short yardage back to me. And is he
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  Speaker 1: a better short yardage back than James Robinson? You have
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  Speaker 1: a better goal line back than James Robinson? I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so. So I'm I'm I'm trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: where does he fit on this roster um. I just
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna be active in the market to find
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  Speaker 1: it back. Once you know, teams start cutting people. Would
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  Speaker 1: you inquire about like a guy like the Niners have
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  Speaker 1: four backs? Would you inquire about Trace Sermon or somebody
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  Speaker 1: like that? Sure? Yeah, because he's right now. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's third or fourth in their depth charts. So although
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson has been banged up, that will be to
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  Speaker 1: keep him and Shanahan rolls those guys through like they're
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: just pieces of you know, in the cogs and the wheel.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, they just throw them in there. It doesn't
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: matter what their name is. And I think they need
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to find another back. They have to get another back,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and preferably one who has a little size. Well, here's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the problem, Pete that I have with where they sit.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That's the one position group. I don't have a ton
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of confidence in one. You have James Robinson who's coming
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: off an achilles. You have not seen him yet, you've
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: not seen him in live action. You don't know how
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that achilles is gonna hold up day in and day out.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And what how many touches Kenny have? Okay too, I
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: don't think Travis etns into every down back. I when
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you see a guy that's gonna be down, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: three down back and get touches again? Is that how
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: he what? I don't see that? I mean, I'm really curious,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: how is he going to hold up? In protection? You know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you start blitzing. I mean we saw Pittsburgh do it
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit, start blitzing those linebackers and they're gonna
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: blitz the guy the back of that. They know the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: back has responsibility for And to Pete's point, we're not
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the big that big back there. Now, James Robson proved
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that he can hold up. Can Travis Etn hold up?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen it. Both protection ain't carry. Let's just
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: say for the argument, Robinson can't go week one, week two,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: then the one are your options you don't get you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot right now, Pete have to get back.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I think you have to go get at least one back,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: trade for a guy, or waiver claim or both or whatever,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: whatever whatever is available, whatever gets you better, because I
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: think that's a that's a big concern. Maybe I'm concerned
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: for no reason. Maybe James Robinson comes back week one
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and is ready to carry five times. I don't know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe maybe Travis etn is gonna
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: be that in every down back to me, he looks
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: like more of a change of pace guy, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a big play matchup. Put him in the slot, move
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: them around, give him the ball in space. He does.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: He does run more physical physically than I thought he would.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: He does break some tackles. So I'm not nothing against
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: travesy TM. No, he's coming out with Liz Frank. Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's not like he's a you know if you if
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you have. I mean, he's a good back and he's
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be I think you're right. Tony runs tougher than
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you thought he would. Um, but does he run tough
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: where you gotta get a four minute offense going, can
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you give him the ball? Or is that if you
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: don't have Robinson game one or game two, if you
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: need to burn the clock or you're not burning a
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: clock with it, what I guy call air back. That's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: not what you want to do. For example, the New
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Orleans Saints would probably put mark Ingram in the line
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: up to burn clock. So that that's the concern right
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: now there, and you can find them. But there's some
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: backs out there, I mean you can you know, Look,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: there's there's guys out there. But I'm with Tony, I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: don't think the third back is on the roster right now.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I just are you gonna go into week one with
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Snoop Connor as your guy? You're gonna have to count on.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL, kid, hang on to the football
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for four minutes. I mean, let's think about that. Let's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: say it is the three guys that are up on
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: game day are let's say James Robinson is clear and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: healthy or good play James Robinson, Travis E t N
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and Snoop Connor. You have a guy, one guy coming
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: off Achilles, one guy who's never played, a second year player,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: never played in the NFL. Game coming off Liz frank In,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a rookie who did not start for his college. Yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it's about right. I mean I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Uh
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: if that was one of those situations where if you
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: had to go trade for one I don't know if
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily do that. Why if you get a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: guy you like, give up a six rounder feat Yeah, okay,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: six rounder okay, But I'm talking about like if there's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a veteran out there, you have your aisland. Like for example,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: let's say the Browns really like that kid forward they
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: want to get rid of one of their backs. Would
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you trade for one of those guys for Chubb? Yes,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I'll trade the job right now, the backs or one
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of those guys. No, I wouldn't. No, six six, I'm
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: sure would you? What would you give up for Chubb?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: By the way, does that a curiosity? I probably give
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: my second rounder second for Nick Chubb? Have you watched
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: him run? Yeah? I'm not giving up. He's already his
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: bodies getting so you got him for two years or something. Great.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Pete is not going to trade you anything for a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: running back. I give up a late round pick for
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a back. If if you want to look at the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: last five years of second rounders and tell me which
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: one of those you wouldn't take Nip Chubb for. Well,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that's a whole nother story I'm talking about if I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: doing the draft. But I mean, yeah, I mean it's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a concern. Now, look what the Jacks did a last weekend.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: We haven't it happened after the show. But it wouldn't
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: trade the seventh rounder for that cold then? Uh? Col
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Van Lannen Lanning Van Lanning. I loved it watching and practice,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: watching the game. He's a guy. I think he'll be
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: active on game day party three, me and Roster. I mean,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: where does he end ultimately end up settling the end at?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's I think he can play either guard.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I think that he also gives you he also gives
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you death. That Ben BArch is not supped stuff. I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: think this kid can play so bart Wood, so that's
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: what I think. I think they made the move to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: play him at left guard. It was clear Shatley wasn't
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: physical enough to play loft guard. It's not he's physical enough.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: He's not long littal, he's little, he's not long enough.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: That's physical. That's all part of it. You gotta be physical.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: He's not the physical. He doesn't fit the bill. So
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and Bart hasn't taken the job and run with it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: So you put this kid in there and you play
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: him at left guard. Well, I mean, BArch is gonna
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: be your starting left guard opening day. I think they
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: showed with that if they don't hesitate the Yankee guy
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: out of there though. No, but that was over a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: period of time. I mean you asked the coaches that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: they'll tell you that Ben Barts went and took the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: job from Shatley. He was better than Shatley in camp,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and they let that play out for they did two
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: or three weeks. By the way, here's a couple other
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: running backs I was thinking about. Possibly. You tell me,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: would you make a deal? Would you when you're interested?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, wait round pick Yes, Miles Gaskin, who's he with?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Miami led the team in rushing last year, Yeah, Sony Michelle, Yes, Okay,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Miami's gonna cut one of those guys, and one of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: those I tell I mean Andy, like, here's the thing
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to your first in the waiver list. Hey, Pete, real
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: quick before we're going further, because we were just talking
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: about some people got waives, some got released. Tell the difference.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: If you're a vested veteran, you get released and you're
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you're you're not subject to the waivers. That's the way
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, but only in UM, only before opening day.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: After opening day, everyone goes through the waiver process, correct, right,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so you're you're he's like anybody now is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: subject to waivers as as a kid. So but yeah,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: but like Sony Michelle, that's that'd be a good guy
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to look into. But Tony Michelle, Ronald Jones, and Gasking
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: all of them would be released, not waived, so they
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: can go anywhere they will, right right, I would take
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I would take of those three. You want? You want
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a more physical Gasking runs tough and hard. I think
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: he's a tough go watch Ronald Jones run between the tackles. Yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: something's concerning about that, the fact that the Chiefs are
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: releasing it. If they do release him, let's come back
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: in a moment, a little defensive talk. It was a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: nice conversation about the running backs. We're gonna flip it
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: over to defense. Flip it. We're flipping it when we
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: come back. Second hour. Oh, he's back with the peanut
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: butter crackers. Pete, you missed it last week. He was
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: eating crackers on the air. Oh no, crunching, crunching him
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: on the air. We had a five minute diet tribe
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: about peanut butter and all the positive aspects of it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: One thing was he chewing on the air? Yes or no? Yes?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, how rude? Get that, h o F.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. We're back in a moment.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Came
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: out of the game perfectly fine, came out strong and healthy,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and we wanted to get him, you know, the first
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: quarter at least. I think he played almost the first half,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you know, twenty five or six snaps, and then did
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: did well, you know, did well obviously from from what
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I can see. We'll watch the tape on the way home,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: but um, yeah, you know, he looked good, played fast,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and I was that was good to see. Doug Peterson
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: after the game Saturday in Atlanta, discussing the first round
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: pick linebacker Devin Lloyd. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: on a Monday. JP Chadwick with the Hall of Famer
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli and Pe Bristo. Well said J. P. Wilson.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Devin Lloyd. We talked a little bit about
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: that was the only I guess projected starter to play
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: in the game because he started out you think so,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think, Pete? What do
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you think? I mean? He should start? Would you? I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: would start him? You drafted him to be a starter.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: He was around all all spring, wasn't he and was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: was running with the starters until he got hurt. Yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he's the starter. I would start him to just let
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: him roll with it. Yeah, we have two more weeks,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: not just hey, here's a here's some third down package
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: things for you start. Since he's he starts, Yeah, i'd
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: start him and and you uh or we called them
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: mum mum, muma. Okay, you that if something were to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: happen or you're you know, he's shaky or inconsistent or
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: blowing stuff, you can put in. But I would start
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. You know what's funny when you watch the tape,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: he doesn't how much do they list him at two
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: forty devn Lloyd on the official roster is listed at
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: two thirty five six ft three. He looks lean. That's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a lean yeah, well six three I guess that's all.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: But I would start him get just get on with it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: He's your guy. You drafted him to be the starter.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: He was the starter until he got hurt. Correct before
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: he pulled his hampring running with the ones all spring
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and in on the O, T, A S and everything.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: He starts. He did have to get lined up a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: couple of times though. You could see that, and it
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: was Corterman was directing up a couple of different times,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and he looked like in some past coverages where he
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: was spitting around a little bit not sure where he
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: should be going. But first time, yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I expected that. But like Tony said, once he stops
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: thinking and just goes, you can see the athletic ability.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Where are you with the rest of the deep? Hey
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: real quick, hey, Pete, what about I was just reading
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: what do you? What do you think about Alexander Madison
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Vikings are trading reyears up there. It looks like they
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: might be trying to trade him, Yeah, because they have
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: another kid. They really like a young back. But yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I would, I would, that would be it. Yes, Yes,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: he's a violent, tough, physical runner. Yes, I would make
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I would give up a six for him, five, six, fifth.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Now you're moving up. I think he's a good back,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I really do. I think he He's exactly what you
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: talk about Tony. Put him in the fourth quarter and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: bleed that clock. He runs tough. Yeah, I'm telling you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: If he I'm with you, Pete. If he's on the market,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: if the Vikings are serious, I would definitely look and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: inquire what it would it take to get him. You know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you have to look at your cap because you know
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it's not like the Jags have a bunch of cap room.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: But he can't be making that much money. But I would,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I would trade for him. I gotta say, it is
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: nice to to talk about and even have the thought
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: in your mind of draining clock in a four minute drill.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: This team's won what three games the last two years.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: But I know it's the future focused now, I get that,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: but it's just it's good to think about that. Well,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it's more that he's also another guy that between him
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and James Robinson, you have your every day on back.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So now you can make Travis e t N is
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that change of pace and space guy and create packages
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: for him. I mean, I would see a lot better
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: if your three backs going into a Sunday, we're a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: guy like Madison Um and E. T. N And and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: j Rob. Yeah, he became, he would be available because
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that means that they would be going with the young group.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Because they would that means ty Chandler, who they drafted
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: this year has had a good preseason, would be their
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: third back because he he would move up. They'd move
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the kid from what I was stayed up in the Iguana,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and then he'd be the third back, So that that
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: would be risky for the Vikings. I wouldn't do that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: if I were them. I mean, why would you? That
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: book doesn't play a whole season. He doesn't, He hasn't
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: finished the season. I'm just saying what was reported on
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk. Yeah, I mean, look, if he's available,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I'm interested. If I'm the Jaguars, I'm interested. Would you
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: give up a six? It's definitely a SIXI I give
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: him a five for him. I'd probably give up a
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: five too, because look at the look at the who
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: are the fifth round picks this year? Are they gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: make the team? The corner almost the corner just because
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you make a team is a draft pick, doesn't mean
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you deserve to make the team, well, especially on that
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: team sometimes the last couple of years. Um, I mean,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: if you look, was it brown? Was Brown the fifth
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: round pick? No, he was the seventh man pulling it up?
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I forget. But we'll do during We'll do a during break.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to the defense. Sorry, I kind of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: are we cutting the are you cutting the team? We're
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: gonna cut the team in the second hour of the show.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: We're off to a good start because we already know
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that they jumped the gun on us today. Yeah that Hey,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you know we mentioned Lloyd. But it seems like the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: rest of the defense, the starters at least, are solidified.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a good place to be, right, Pete,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I was surprised that Jason didn't play, Pete. Does that
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: mean you're keeping him? What does that mean you might
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: try and trade him? I think I think Jason's I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: think unless someone offers you something worth your while, like
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: what like Alexander Madison, Jason elevator Madison done. I mean,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: here's the problem with Chason. You're admitting a major mistake. Now.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I know they weren't in that position, was there? But
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it was well Trent was there? Was there? Yeah, I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: guess he was. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a mistake for him.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: He was the assistant GM he was. You're right, So
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: would you keep him or would you keep forty? I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: keep him, I keep chasing well, just for the attraction
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of the I think he does more. I think he's
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: been I mean he I mean, Chason did pretty good
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: in the preseason. I mean he's active. Yeah, I think
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: he's getting better. Like my perspective with Chase on Pete
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: is forget about the fact that he was a first
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: round draft pick. Just erase that from your memory and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: look at him as what he did in this preseason
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and is he one of your best fifty three guys?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: And in my opinion, he is, And so I don't
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: care that he was drafted or overdrafted as a first rounder.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: The question now, and the only question you should be
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: asking yourself, if you're Doug in Trent, does he make
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: us better? Are we better with him or with Jamar
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: uh was James Jones Jones Jamar Jones number J Yeah,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Well you you're cheating. You got the I'm cheating I'm prepared,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is what I am. Yeah. I think that kid's a
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: physical player though, and I think don't you think you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: can get him among the practice squad? P you can
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: sneak him through, get him on the practice squad probably
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: whereas Chase some would would wouldn't make it to the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: practice So I I yes, he's on my fifty three.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: By the way, Jar, if you had if you had
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to pick between forty and forty seven, you'd pick forty though, Yes,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: me too. Jaguar's fifth round pick, this you with Snoop Connor? Yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you trade that for Alexander Mathison, wouldn't you? Right now? Okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: my Kings, can I raise that to you right now?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: You could have Snoop Connor just what we need another back.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't make the team there. Sixth round pick was
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Gregory Jr. From Watching a Baptist and then Montark Brown
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: from Arkansas the seventh rounder. So what is one of
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: those corners gonna stick? Well, Benji Franklin has already been waived.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: He was another guy kind of competing with those two.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: He was an undrafted guy. So you think one of
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: them would stick? Right? Coverage teams? Who are who are
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: your top four corners, it's Shack Griffin, Tyson, Campbell's, Williams
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and Trey Herndon's. We have not seen Darius Williams. He
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: played last week or he didn't play. He's practiced last right,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: but we haven't seen him the game. Right. He practiced
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: without the weird jersey last week for the first time.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So what about who's the fifth corner? Clay Brooks? Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I think Clay Brooks special teams. He's the best gunner. Yeah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: so you keep him for special teams yep, yeah, to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: play on the field, but that's fine. How many corner?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: How many you're keeping? Four safeties, which is uh Dewey, Um, Ciscos,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Jenkins and probably Thomas Thomas. Daniel Thomas's my guess. So
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: there's your force. How many because how many defense backs're
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: gonna keep? Nine or ten you'll keep? Yeah, you'll keep.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: You gotta keep more. You gotta keep another corner at least,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So you need a fifth corner one of those two guys.
• 36:33
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• 36:35
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• 36:37
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• 36:39
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• 36:42
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• 36:50
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• 36:51
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• 36:57
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• 37:01
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• 37:05
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• 37:07
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• 38:17
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• 38:19
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• 39:02
  Speaker 1: we're told by training camp. They got a little work
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to do to get there and moving along pretty quickly. No,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: they're doing a great job, no doubt about it. But
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. It looks like they've started pete
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the grand stand area for about one seats or so
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: for training there. I don't see that on the left
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: side where if you're watching on on the website, it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: on the side of the screen where the white where
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: that white thing is right there, I say it. So
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that's exactly like the Dolphins facility. It's very close. Yes,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I think that saved them some time to take a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: lot of the major design of that. Um. Yeah, I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: actually I was at there for facility a couple of
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: last week. I went down there to watch the Eagles work. Um.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It was a day they were supposed to have a
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: joint practice in Miami. You think about that, Tony, Miami
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: had a couple of guys with the stomach bugs. So
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: they decided they were going to do their stuff virtually,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and so the Dolphin the Eagles practiced on their field
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and they didn't practice with them mentioned the days when
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a practice got canceled because a couple of players at
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: his stomach. Bucky. I like, when I read that, I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: was like, I've never heard like you know, would have
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: been like back and I played. Pete had been like, okay,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: everyone out in the field, coach have a star, great,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: go throw up. Just if you have to throw up,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: go throw up in the corner and then get back
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: in the game. You got a portal that out here.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: You can make it there if you have to. Hey, Pete,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: A couple of Pete a couple of things. Um, JP
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and I were talking in the break. The Dolphins just waved,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: uh Sony Michelle, go get him so he's free. And
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: then also it's being reported that, um this is via Twitter.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: You're digging deep, am I Football? Did you see it too?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Source says that Leviss Channault could be on the blocks
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in the Houston Texans have shown the most interest so far.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: What is the what's the handle on that? Am I
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: footballpendent independent earlier. I think that I think that's out there.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I think that that they want to try and get
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: something for him, and they would that's why that he
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: got the spot right now instead of treadwill. I wouldn't
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: be surprised if the Vikings didn't inquire, as I know,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I remember Keenan liked him when he was there. I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: don't know if he could talk them into that, but
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that would make some sense. They don't have a fifth receiver.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: But the big thing is, I mean, I think you
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: gotta go kick the tires and Sony Michelle Um agree?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: What what? What kind of camp did he have? Pete?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: And Okay, he played a lot last week. I mean
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it's it's just they have so many and that you know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: does you know that in forty scheme he went out
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: and he got Chase Edmonds, he went out and got Moster.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: So those guys in Gasking had a good year last year,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and it was probably ran a little bit better. So
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it's it's a numbers game. You can't keep them all.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I think that would make some sense. Take a look
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: at him. M What it costs? Um nothing? Nothing? Well, no,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I mean you'd have to pay the guy still makes
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: the team gets paid. I'm not gonna give a signing
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: botus guys on the street caution nothing might as well?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: What else you gonna report over there? Told me, since
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you're do you let me ask you this, would you
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: keep I mean, sergeant has run pretty well for them?
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I thought, what you practice squad? Um? Yeah, I think so.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if I'm being just completely blunt
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and honest, nobody behind et N and um and then
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: obviously James Robinson jumped out at me. But you keep
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: sometimes you keep it young back and and let them
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: develop for a year or something on a practice squad.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I did snoop Connor to me is like,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he brings. His straight line runner
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't bring anything. Hm, would you agree tony straight line
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: runner not a lot of pop? Yeah? I just yeah,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: nothing Again, there's not one thing that jumps out when
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he gets the ball you're like, oh I like that,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: or and you know he's a young back, so you
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: don't probably gonna have confidence to put him in there
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: because he has a bigger body. Could you put him
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: in there on third down? Or puts it? You know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: situations where you going to keep him in as a protector.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: But typically, you know, coordinators don't have a lot of
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: confidence in those rookie running backs to be protecting their
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: prize possession. The franchise quarterback back there. So I'm with you, Pete.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, my guess is he makes the roster because
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: he's a draft pick and they'll try to hope that
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: he develops. And Michelle Michelle is five eleven little. Yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: he runs hard, he's a physical about that's about what
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: James what's James Robinson listened at five eleven to I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: don't think he's that he stole the roster from me
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: because he wanted all of a sudden press five nine.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's Sony Michelle's stats ready for his
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: per per per year averages four five three seven five
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: seven four one eighteen touchdowns in four career in four years.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: So it's not like he's been It was you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: you average. He got nine yards in two of his
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: first season for seasons and then had eight forty five
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: last year for the Rams. I mean, I think he's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: a he's a good back. I'm gonna saying he's great,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: but he makes you better getting him. And he's only seven.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: He doesn't has another year in running back years. He
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of wear and tear. But I also, Pete,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: don't you think it give you some like comfort if
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: James Robinson is not ready to carry the full load. Okay,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: yes I do. So here's the question. Would you rather
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: sign Sony Michelle and not give up a pick or
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: give up a six for Madison? From six six, fifth
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: or six for Madison? Because I think he's a I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: think he's dynamic. You can watch him when Dalvin Cook
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: has been hurt. It's not a huge drop off. I mean,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: he's not many means, but he's a good back me.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. If you can get him for five
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: or six, I do that. M hmm. It's only just begun.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Still haven't got to the final cut time, which is
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: four o'clock on Tuesday. The Jaguars earlier today, if you've
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: just joined us, announced the ten players that are either
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: waived or released, and there are some other teams around
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the league apparently doing that as well. According to Tony
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Boselli's Twitter feed, because he's going through and just you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: reading random tweets of reports. What you mean that is great?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: It's not random. Are verified people, and he credited him,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: so if the guy's wrong, he doesn't take the hit
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: for a point. See, he has learned he is a
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: media mogul now breaking news, breaking news. Can I get
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: some breaking news music? According to Ian rappaport Um, the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars have traded le Viscus Channalt to the Panthers. Great,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: you can revitalize his career like C. J. Henderson has
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: for what doesn't say? Wow? Is that Is that a real?
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I double checked it, Yes, and the NFL network is
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: liked it. We'll come back in a moment more on
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that story. It is true, It is real. I looked
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: at it. Leviscus chal reportedly traded Bill open the second
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour with that and your questions
• 46:59
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• 47:02
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• 47:17
  Speaker 1: number two. J. P. Shadrick with Hall of Fame left
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: tackle Tony Vasselli and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us on this Monday afternoon as
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: we had an hour two and some breaking news. You
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: heard it moments ago. Tony Basselli read it off Twitter.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: It is true, he and Rapit board of NFL Network
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: reporting that Leviscus should not has been traded to the Panthers.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: No word on the compensation or the exchange, and here
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: we go an hour two, we're off and running. Hey,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: ten players cut or released a wave today for the Jaguars,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So the churn begins. The eleven roster deadline, Well he
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: was traded, nobody'm saying, but eleven guys of the they're
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: getting down to where they need to be correct the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: good point, Tony should help you. The deadline is four
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: o'clock Tuesday, but the church has begun, Tony, thank you. Yeah,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I'm helping you. He's constantly scrolling through Twitter, Pete, just
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to see if there's any more breakings. Sources are are
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: reaching out. I got sources reaching out to be Pete.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: You know. It's It's great though, and Ian's and Ian's tweet,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: he says, the Jaguars are trading Leaviscus Chanal to the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Panther's a new playmaking weapon. Where is he a playmaking weapon? Seriously? Yeah,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. Um, the reputation far far exceeds what he is. Yeah, So,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, JP and I are talking about this. If
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: you look at the draft in now to two of
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: our first three picks are sitting in uh in Carolina Carolina.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Let's go by the way. C J. Henderson has been
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: really good this summer, really good. The raving about him
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: got a set together. That's good. Um, all right, So
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that was that was what that was with him. I
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: mean that he a he wasn't what they thought he
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: was in terms of in dedicated the craft early on,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: and then he hated Urban and Urban hated him. That's
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: how that thing played out. Well, if you look at
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that draft, let's go through that draft real quick. J Draft.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Ninth overall. C J. Henderson cornerback Florida,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: gone not here overall. First round defensive and outside linebacker
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Caleb and Chase on l s U. Literally were we
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: started the show. We started the show. Talkinge, is he
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: on the bubble of getting cut? I don't think he is,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: by the way, But the fact that he's in the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: conversation after two seasons back up at best? Keep going.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Second round, forty second overall wide receiver Leavisca Chinault Jr.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: From Colorado Gone can't run. Third round pick seventy third overall.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton, defensive tackle the Ohio State University. I mean
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a starter on for a second down. Yeah.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Fourth round hundred six overall offensive lineman Ben Bartch from
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Division three St. John's in Minnesota. Right now for now.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Fourth round hundred thirty seventh cornerback Josiah Scott from Michigan
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: State gone. Fourth round one linebacker Shakill Quarterman from Miami.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Back up. But that's a good that's a good pick
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: in that spot. Yeah, I'm not being critical. That's the backup.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: He's done a good job. He's a he's a he contributes.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Fifth round hundred fifty seventh overall safety from Auburn, Daniel Thomas.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Back up, best teams guy. Again, that's okay in that spot.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Fifth round hundred sixty five overall wide receiver from Texas
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Colin Johnson would have been starting for the Giants, but
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: he got hurt last week. Sixth round pick hud ninth
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: overall quarterback Oregon State Jake Lewton. He won't be here,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think. Two hundred sixth overall in the sixth round,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: tied in from Georgia Tech, Tyler Davis. I don't know
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: where you are. And in the seventh round, two overall
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: cornerback and return specialists from Memphis Chris Claybrooks actually a
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: good pick, seventh round pick, guy who's gonna contribute on
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: special teams, good gunner. So other than the beginning of
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: that draft, it's okay. But here's the question. Is it
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: okay out of necessity? It could be in the bottom
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: line is those first three picks have to be starters
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: on a team when you're not very good, correct, And
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: they could have packaged those two picks and gotten Justin Herbert.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: And that's what they could have. Now, that's why I
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: say I would give a second rounder right there, is
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: why I give a second rounder for Nick Chubb. Yeah,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: but that's you can't think that way, Tony. You can't
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: think just because I can't. I can as a Jaguard,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: loyal employee, fan, alumni, whatever, so you wanna call it.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I can't think that way, Pete. I'm not giving up
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the second rounder for Nick Chubb. Not when to use
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the first rounder on E. T N and not when
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the running back position is devalued a. But b nick Chubb?
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Is it? What is? No? He's on his third year. Yeah,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: he's older than that. You just make stuff up? Heard
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Georgia and got it next two year. No, I'm sorry.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: He's going to be Okay, that means he's twenty six. Yeah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: so he's currently he's gone at the end of December.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: One of these years, he'll turn this year, he's gonna
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think you could get him anyways if you
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: want it, because I don't think you can fit him
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: in your cap. No, because they paid so much money
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: out to compensate for the lack of for the bad
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: draft picks. That's why. That's what happens. That's what happens
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: for sure. The Jaguar is almost like, if you draft well,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: your cap becomes a problem because then you've got to
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: resign everybody. Right, that's a pleasant problem to have. But
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: if you don't draft well, then you overpay everybody to
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: try and compensate for your poor drafting. You don't know
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: what you're getting. Well, somehow, the the Rams have figured
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: it out. They pay like people so much money, but
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: they have no cap issues. They've got cash or something
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: because they back end. Drafting has been really good for
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: the Rams, and so you supplement those guys with good
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: players who were drafted at the back, and that's how
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you do it. I'm just saying they've done a good
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: job I'm not. I'm not. I'm not because they're sustainable
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: though the long run if they keep on drafting good players.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: It is. But they drafted to safeties in late rounds
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and they're fighting for each for a job, the two
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: of them and both of them started. I mean, you
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: can find those guys. Well, it's sustainable as long as
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: you keep Aaron Donald on the team on defense because
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: he covers up a lot of sins on the back half.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: And you know, you got a guy Jalen Ramsey who
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: allows you to do things on the back half because he's,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those type of players. You've got
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, you have, you know, the best possession
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: receiver and all football and Cooper Cup I mean they've done.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I mean they've They've got guys that are top three
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: at their position, couple that are top one at their position. Well,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: there's three of the top ten players in the league
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I think all arguably. Do you think Cooper Cups the
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: top ten player? He won the Triple Crown last year. Pete,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with you. I'm asking you a damn question. Yes, yes,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a top ten play. So you're c. Pete.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I think you're full of it there, because if I did,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: if we had all the players drafted or available for
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: a draft right now, you were not picking Cooper Cup
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: in the top ten, I would. No, you're not, okay.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Was he better than all the receivers in the league
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: last year? You're missing my point, Pete, Okay, for you
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: have Okay, who's your first receiver? You're picking me personally,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Bobby Jefferson, Okay, I'm going to mar Chase Chase. I'm
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: going Jamar Chase, Labar Chase. Is he a new player,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's his brother brother. I go, I'm
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: taking Jamar Chase. My point is you didn't say Cooper
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Cup talking about youth though there's a difference. No, Davante Adams,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: it's close. My point is my point. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: trouble Crown. Last year he letting yards, catches and touchdowns.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I love I love the receiver. Doesn't sound like you
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: love him, Pete. All I'm saying I know for a
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: fact I like Cooper Cup probably more than you like him.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: He is not on the top end of I'm just
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: telling you, if you're picking a team you're picking I
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: would say three receivers. I know Pete Briscoe. I bet
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: you Pete Briscoe picks uh three receivers and four he
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: picks Cooper Cup one of them. Huh is better than
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: you think he is. Okay, let me ask you a question.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Uh Jefferson or Cup? Jefferson Jamaar Chaser Cup? Um? Are
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: you stuttering? Just speak? I would write, I would Cup
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: ahead of Chase. Who are you taking on your team?
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: You're taking Cup instead of March. Cup now matters. He's
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: twenty nine, so age matters. So if I'm building a team,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I'm taking Jason Jefferson, also taking Chase in Jefferson over Adams? Okay,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Davante Adams or Cooper Cup? Cup? Really? Yeah? I think
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: you can't just discount what he did list. I'm not
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: discounting it. I'm just shocked that you're taking Cooper cups.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: The guy had nineteen under yard receiving and you called
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: him a possession receiver. Well, he's a slot guy. He's
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you know, how often does he line up outside on
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the number one corner and go just spread down the field? Right?
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from but he paid, he plays,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: moved him around a lot though, But he's not a
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: slot receiver. No, he's not just one. He's not a
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: one trick pony. In fact, that's what Jefferson was till
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I talked to Jefferson was up there. He still about
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: how excited he is to move around like Cup does
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: in that offense. All right, listen, I love Coopers. You
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: know what the thing is with Cup is nobody believes
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that he can do it. Again, that's part of the problem.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I love. I just don't think if I'm listening to
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: top ten players in this league, I don't think Cooper
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Cups on my list. That's all I'm saying now. I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: would take I would take Jefferson in terms of where
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: owing and what he's going to be. I think he's
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: he's going to be the best in the league. Chase
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: the way they use Cup, the way the Jags want
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to use Kirk slot, move him around, Yeah, I think,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think. I mean it's down the field,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: but well, I think you'll see him go deep. It's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a different offense. But I do think that Doug Peterson
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: will move Christian Kirk around. Okay, but let's take the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Cup conversation out. If he said you don't think he's
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: a top ten. He's close to being a top ten
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: no matter what. And Donald and Ramsey are. Yeah. My
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: your point is right, Pete. From the standpoint that they
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: have three players that you are arguing well too, you
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: don't have to argue because they are are the best
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: player at their position. Correct, correct. And when you have
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, when you have that, you get
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: guy like Darius Williams. He plays, he plays well, and
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: then some team comes along and pays the boatload of
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: money to come. Here's the thing. If you looked at
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: this roster right now, and I'm hoping this will change
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: after this year, but how many guys are on this
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: roster that are top five at their position in the NFL? None,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I would say, I think there's one. Oh, Brandon Sheriff. Yeah,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Sheriff is the only one. I think. I mean, I
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: think he's top five. I mean, you can make a
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: case for him being top five. He's no, he's not
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: a slam dunk as a top five Nelson. I mean,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: you could go through and you could probably come up
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: with him being in the argument with six seven. It's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: no slam donkeys top five. I think I think he's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: top five. But to your point, Pete, I mean I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: had to go through the entire I mean, Zack Martin's there,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson would would would he be? Would Trevor Lawrence
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: be a top ten quarterback next year? I think he
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: can be. Next year. I think he will be. How
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: about that, I think he will be. I'm all right now,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Derek Carr top ten. I think that's where you're in
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: the argument there, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousin can be better
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: than both those guys you're talking about after this season's over.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: My point is right now, on this team, nobody is
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: except for And this is where this is where guys
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: like Josh Allen like he's like, I'm gonna put him
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: as the poster child, like because I have like I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: hold him in high regard. I think he's super talented
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and he has the right mindset and the way I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: describe him right now, he's a good player. I think
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: he has the potential to be great, a difference maker.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And for this team to start taking the next step,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you need guys like Josh Allen who now are in
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the debate of one of the best pass rushers in football,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: one of the best outside linebackers or defensive ends in
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: football debate. Next year, I believe he is Pete. I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: think he's I think he's a twelve to fifteen Zack guy.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: This year, well, he's gonna be towards to be in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: that debate. I agree, but I'm just saying I think
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the debate will be there. I think Trevor Lawrence, like
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Pezez said, will be in the debate. Of a top
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: ten quarterback. You need that to happen. I think Christian
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Kirk has the opportunity from being in the shadow of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: you know, Hopkins and Larry Fitzgerald and a A. J.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Green in Arizona to being the number one guy where
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: he catches a hundred plus balls and now all of
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, oh, Christian Kirk. When you start
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: talking about number one receivers, you bring his name up
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: like this is what needs to happen for this team
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: to be good. I mean, if you go all the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: way back to the beginning of this franchise, this team
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: became good because we had players like a Jimmy Smith,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: a Fred Taylor, I'm Mark Burnell at the quarterback position,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: who you know, for three years made the Pro Bowl
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: go ahead say yourself. You know you know, but Pete
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: like a right tackle. Leon Cercy was arguably one of
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: the best right tackles, and you know you was one
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers in the league. That's exactly
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: so you have to get guys who are in the conversation,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: is one of the best at their position. Okay, but
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: as of right now, the only one would be the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: right guard. And that's debatable. But next year Alan could be,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Lawrence will be. We'll say another one. I'm gonna get
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: another name that I'm high on. And and Cambele who Cambell.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I love Tyson Campbell. I don't know if he'll be
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: there after this year, but I think he's on the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: he has the right trajectory. Cam Robinson, I think Cam Robinson,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: who had a good year last year, he's gonna have
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: his best year and will be in the upper ten
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: called ten left tackles. It doesn't matter who plays that position,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna problem. Remember when Mike Pearson plays,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: he said he was going to be. First of all,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the radio with Mike Pierson. You're
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: an idiot, he was. By No, that's not sure to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: stop it. He's gonna be a top five tackle in
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the league after this year. I think you can debate
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: it after this year. Oh man, I don't see that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: at all. What not because I don't think he's that good.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a top ten to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: twelve thirteen tackle, top five. I'm not saying right now,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: I'm saying the debate will be on you and I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: next year will be debating whether he's a top five
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: tackle or not. Well, you're gonna be better than Trent Williams.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be better than the kids that the Chargers.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: So there's two right up the back. I mean you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: could get there's guys out there. I mean Sony top five.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you Pete Wow, I'll tell you another guy.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not top five. But at the end of this
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: year we will be talking about him as a difference
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: maker on the defense. Andre Cisco say, I like Cisco.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I think he's got real potential to be a good,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: really good safety. So I I'm not gonna say he's
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: top five, but he's gonna say top five. I said
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: that he will, Like all of a sudden, you're back. Oh,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: this is one of the better top third safeties in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Hey, uh, we gotta take your time out.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Do we have to? Yes, because we have to come
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: back and sell some wine. Keep it Real. We're gonna
• 1:04:50
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: on ten to excel, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars Social Media Twitter, Facebook,
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• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick with Hall of Famer Tony
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Vaselli and Pete Prisco. It's time for Keeping It Real,
• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: keep it real. What do we keep it real? With JP?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: The right tackle position? Did we do this last week?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: We have it? Well? Yeah, it's you know, neither one
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: on it though, no, no one. Actually when it comes
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: to the offensive line beat. Let's be clear, nobody cares
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: on this show about your opinion. Only one person on
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: the plea keep the tape of this show so that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: we can get Cam Robinson top five tackle at the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: end of the year. It's going to save that, please,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: because one guy played the position went to the Hall
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: of Fame, arguably one of the greatest of all time.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I did not, but I will be right. Well, Pete,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: let's be clear now, I didn't say he would be
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I said we'd be talking about whether or not he
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: is kind of vague. No, that's what is that? Not
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: what I said? JA the conversation the six or seven
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: or something like that, that's right, Yes, bare minimum he
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: six or seven in the league. I think he has
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: to be top eight for me to be right, Okay.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: And where is he right now? Twelve fift Yeah, I
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: think that's fair. Okay, So yes, we'll keep this and
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: then don't ever say anything that I don't know offensive
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: lying you do, wouldn't doesn't happen. Yeah, when he makes
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl this year and talking about first team
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: or second team All Pro, you'll be uh asking for
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: forgiveness like that. That would be good for everybody. And
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: when does Luke joke were gonna make it? Let's move
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: to the right tackle. That was not very nice. Joan
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Taylor Walker little neither one of them were in their Saturday.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: What do you see. I wouldn't. First of all, I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: would have played Walker Little because I think he's the backup.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I think he's a swing tackle. I would have played
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: him and put him at left tackle to give him
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: some reps because at the end of the day, he
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: if something happens to camp, he is your left tackle.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm surprised that Doug Peterson did not do that. UM.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I think Jawan Taylor won the job. He had the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: better camp once he got healthy, he had the better
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: games that they both played in, and I think Juwan
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Taylor will be your starting right right tackle when the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: season opens. I the one thing, it actually was good
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: to have that competition shit over there because I think
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: it pushed Joan Taylor. You could tell that that was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: a different guy. You know, some guys. I don't know
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: if you guys noticed that. I heard he had an
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: edge in camp, which is a good thing. UM. And
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: so I think the fact that they didn't flop Little
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: over there to challenge him made him a better player.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: He played better, he was better in the games. Like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: you said, Tony, I think he earned the job. He
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: should be number He should be the starting right tackle. Yeah,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: but again Walk a Little. You know, they used the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: second Rounderum last year. And I think some of the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: conversation people are gonna have and are having is you know,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: how did he not win that job or they're disappointed
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: didn't win the job. At the end of the day,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: you know, whether he was the starting right tackle or
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: not does not mean his career in Jacksonville or it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: a busted pick or anything like that. I mean, people,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: you need to be paid. Number One, that kids at
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: out two years at a major knee injury. He is
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: big athletic Um. I still have hope that he will
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: continue to improve. I think he's getting coached very well
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: by Phil Rauscher, who I have a ton of respect
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: for his an offensive line coach, and so I expect
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: him um to to improve over the season. And I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: don't think that this battle is over just because Jowan
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Taylor is the starting right tackle opening day. He he's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: gonna know that he has a guy right over his
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: shoulder and Walker Little, And I my hope is Walker
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: continues to work and progress and get better in practice
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: and use scout team reps and use your one on
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: one reps. Like to get better and better and better.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: To put pressure on Jawan so that if something were
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: to happen were Jawan is not playing well or an
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: inconsistent that you can slide in Walker little there. And
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: at the same time to remind Juwan Taylor daily that hey, um,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: there's someone else we can play if if you're not
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: playing at a high level, because I think that will
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: help both guys play like you did as a rookie.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: That should be the message for Jowan Taylor, because he
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: looked like he was gonna be a good player as
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: a rookie and then the last couple of years he's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: been really bad and and so I think competition brought
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: the best out in him, and that's always a good thing. Plus,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: it's a contract to your pet, you know, a contract
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: here does the people Well, they'll probably overpay him next
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: year too, like they've done in the past. Who have
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: they overpaid in the past, Well, a lot of people
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: around the league. You think they overpaid for everybody they
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: signed this offseason. It's free agency. Got to do that. Well,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well that looks like your Yeah, Okay,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, I don't know where to go
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: with that. Is what it is. I'll say this based
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: on early returns. I don't think they overpaid for Fatacasi.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you, and I'm in the minority.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think I mean they Okay, yeah, they paid
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: too much for Kirk, but they had to, or did they?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: But I think he's a good player, I really do.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I think Kirk's gonna be a good player. But they're
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: paying him great money. If he's really good, though, then
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: it's worth it. He catches a hundred balls here, he's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: worth every time. Okay, you're gonna put that one. Is
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: he gonna be a hunter? Prediction Monday? I just said, right,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I mean was here's the is it? Z A. Jones
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: actually has looked good this summer. So his deal looks
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: like when he signed his deal, I thought that was wacky,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: and his deal if he plays like that, his deal
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: is gonna be about in par for what he should be.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: All Right. That's it for Keeping it Real. Presented by
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• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon J P.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Shadrick with Pete Frisco and Hall of Fame. Aren't Tony?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: But so glad you're with us. It is the Monday
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: of the mini bye week. There's two weeks until the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: regular season to go a long way to go long?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna talking about next week on Labor Day?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Should we just take a day all Pete? Pete's cut
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: right now, he's not off. Can we hear you, Pete? Yeah,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: you can hear me. We got you now. That days
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: until the season starts. Only Tony come on Thursday Thursday? Now?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Are you doing that game? Tone? No, I'm not doing
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: the first Thursday night? Um? Did you see the Ford
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: and Iris? Pete just um signed Garoppolo. I thought all
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: along he wasn't going anywhere. That one struct He was
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: supposed to make four million dollars this year. They restructured it.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: UH total upside sixteen million. Basically his base is seven
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  Speaker 1: million and then you can get another or six six
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  Speaker 1: and a half million base five and sentives of roster bonus,
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  Speaker 1: and then another seven nine million out there based on
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  Speaker 1: playing time. I mean, I'm gonna say this because he
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: the VIC. It was this at the Vikings the week before.
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  Speaker 1: They worked out with the Niners for two days and
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: played them. And so I asked some guys on the
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  Speaker 1: on the Vikings that I know, some players I know,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: and some other guys in the organization, what have they
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: thought of Trey Lance? And they all went mm hmm.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: They gave me that look. They said, the motion was funky,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: telegraphed his passes a little bit, and j accuracy wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: There's gotta be some concern about that if you're the Niners,
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  Speaker 1: and which has to be why they kept them. I mean, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: they have at ers have a super Bowl roster. Besides
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: quarterback the middle. The offensive line is bad, though, Tony,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Can you can you get around that
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  Speaker 1: with two solid tackles? Okay, a whole new group in there.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Oh that's fair. But it's a good it's a good team,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: good team, and and they're good well coached. Aren't they
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: better with Jimmy Garoppolo than Trey lancepet I think they are.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, everybody thinks that they can take this
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: guy who can move and run and everything else and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: create so much stuff for him. I wouldn't be shocked
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  Speaker 1: if he's not starting by November or October. Only one
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  Speaker 1: year deal. Your team is built to win now, So
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: go ahead. JP just started. Sorry to kiss you off there, Pete.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: This didn't happened last week. No it didn't. It was
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: perfectly smooth last week, unlike this week with Pete back.
• 1:14:50
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• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: we put out the cat signal. Here's what we came
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: up with on Twitter today. The question one is at
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Devil Jaguar X eight two, give us some off the
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  Speaker 1: cuff extreme predictions for the season. Well, I think Tony
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: has just been doing that already, Pete, No, he's got it.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: He didn't give up. Those are all things he believes.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: They just sound like buffoon off the cuff predictions. Give me,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: give me something off the cuff to Selly. You go first,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: off the cuff. Off the cuff. This team will be
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: within two games going into December for the a f
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  Speaker 1: C South. So by November they're gonna be within two
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: games going by the end of November. Let's not that
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: off the cuff, it would be in third place, though.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, what you're saying that they're gonna be two
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: games back from with it to win the division? And
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: what's I think they have division games in December? Okay,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: here here's mine. You're ready many or away? But yes,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: nobody pays any attention to the Pro Bowl and it
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: really doesn't mean anything, but Trevor Lawrence will be playing
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. Are they even gonna have a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year? Pe they shouldn't. But he will
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl in some form or fashion, because
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna roll up big numbers. I really do.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that very nice. Next question
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  Speaker 1: at Bordles Nation, do you see us adding Kenyan Drake
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  Speaker 1: or some other running back? Yeah, we talked some running
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: back to earlier. Drake's a free agent already. I don't
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: think he fits with what they want to do, though,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I think the other guys are I think are better fits.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Don't you agreet Tony and Madison or whoever. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think they'll be. There will be a running back that
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  Speaker 1: has not been in camp with us on this roster
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: opening day. Michelle's out there, he's free. He's free. I'd
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: be kicking the tires on that immediately. Plus, I hear
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake can be difficult to coach at times. Then
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: you don't want him here. You have a young team. Um,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: then you know we talked about the report that the
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Vikings might be uh in the market to trade Alexander
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Madison is very good back. Um, did you get both?
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Do you need both? No? I don't think you need both,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: but no, you need one. You need one one. I
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: just signed Sony Michelle. That's what I would do, easy enough.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Next question at Jarvis Davis twenty. Do you guys think
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: the defense could be in the top ten to fifteen
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: by the end of this season? Pete, you go first,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: top fifteen? Yes, top ten, though this defense at the
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: end of the season will be ranked number seven seven
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  Speaker 1: in the league until total defense? Is that with the
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: metro Yeah, pomp poms on all over the place today? Man,
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  Speaker 1: where they underneath the desk? Seven? I don't see that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good defense. But that's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: pretty dark good seventh in the league and they got
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: the A F. C. West on the roster. Let's let's
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: just think of seven defenses, just on the top our head.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: They're not better than the Chargers were. But the Charges
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: weren't ranked even in the top ten last year. They weren't.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: But they not have Khalil mac and J. C. Jackson
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: and Derwin James's back plans. Come on, Tony, okay, will
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: you be better than the Niners defense? Will they be
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: better than the Rams defense? Tony, Well, I mean not
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: better than the Saints defense. I know that much. Are
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: they better than the Bucks defense? Maybe? Are they better
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: in Miami's defense? Yes? Are they better than the Bills defense? No?
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  Speaker 1: Who are the Okay? Give us the top ten defenses
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  Speaker 1: last year JP by yards stand by, I'm working on that.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: You could go by points to I mean by yards.
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  Speaker 1: Pay attention. I know, because that's what we decided. Because
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  Speaker 1: that's seven. All right. Here we go, number one defense
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: in the league by total yardage per game, the Buffalo Bills.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: You're not to be ramatic circles the wagons like the
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Buffalo named the year line a second, San France third,
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  Speaker 1: New England fourth, Cleveland fifth, Chicago six somehow New Orleans seventh,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Denver eight, Green Bay was ninth, Philly ten. By the way,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: green Bay will be significantly better than they were a
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: year ago. All the corners are back healthy. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to amend I will say they will be.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be number ten exactly. Okay, As of right now,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: where are they ranked in the defenses in the state
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: of Florida? Number one? You know better than that. Their
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: third right now based on what they could be by
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: the end of the year. Better but their third. Listen,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I'm a believer in Caldwell, Mike Caldbolla. We already went
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: through his last draft and I'm not let's not revisit
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: that love Dave friend, but good guy, the first want
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: to tell you wasn't a good draft. Next question at that,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: underscore guy, underscore Tyler, what's a realistic at look for
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: this team this year? Taking off the teal shades, what
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: do each of you think this of this roster and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: how should perform this year compared to teams in the
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: a f C. Well, we're doing We're gonna We're gonna
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: pick the wins and losses next week. So I don't
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: want to give away any of my inside information. Yeah,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I want to save that. It's a tease the business.
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  Speaker 1: Um I think. I I mean, if you're being honest,
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  Speaker 1: right now, I think it's still probably the third best
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: roster in the a f C South. I mean, it's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: just it's hard for me to put it higher just
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: based on the last few years and what teams did
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: in the off season. Now I think it can jump
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: ahead of Tennessee. I think Tennessee losing a J Brown
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: was big um for them. Like I don't think the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: receiving crew for the Tennessee Titans is scares you much.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's a team that if
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: if they don't get you know, King Henry going. It's
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: been proven that Tannehill is not the quarter back who's
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: going to carry them and carry that offense. And they
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: got issues on the offensive line too. Yeah, that's what
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I could probably be talked into right
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: now that the roster, the Jack's roster is better than Tennessee's,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: But just because of the last few years, it's hard
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: to say that. I think the Colts have the best
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: roster and are the best team going into the season
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: in the South. But you always talk about top five
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: players in the league. Derrick Henry's the top five running back,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: that's my point. Jeffrey Simmons is a top five defensive tackle,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Kevin Byard is a top five safety. There's three right there.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Pete, That's what I'm saying. You know,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: it'd be hard for me to put them ahead. Now.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Could I talk myself into it? Maybe yes, But I
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: still think right now, this roster and if you were
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: just taken off, you know, our love for this organization
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: or my love for the organization, it would be hard
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: to project them higher than third right now in the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: AFC South. But you you talked about top five players.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Colts. Jonathan Taylor top five player,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Darius Leonard top five player, um Quit Nelson top five
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: player is the uh I can't think of his name.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Came from San Francisco, three technique. He's not top five,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: he's not top five player, but he's not far behind
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: that though. Yeah, he's a good player. Buckner, Yes, thank you.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: The final question. We're gonna end with a bank here
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: at Hello fish Sticks. Does Pete use the same shampoo
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: and conditioner as Dewey wingered? No, but I cover better.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I would say, Wow, that's a dumb question. Why did
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: you put that in there? Because Pete has no hand?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Come on, No, that's the whole point of the joke.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I know, I get the joke. Bras Ball, I should
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: just put that on there. Well, you just should just say, dude,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Pete and JP use the same shampoo. I can say,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: this is no lie. If I get a thing of shampoo,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: it lasts a long time. Why do you even use shampoo?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Why don't you soap? You have no hair? I have hair.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: It's just back here. You can't see it. JP, do
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: use shampoo from time to time? Do you take a shower?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: You wash occasionally? Depending on it's once a once a week?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Pe want by walk out of I mean the way
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: when I said do you use shampoo? You like you
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: went like you don't take showers or something. I'm worried
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: about this. It's been a long and winding road here
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. We'll see, yeah, I won't. Yeah, they're gonna
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: change a little bit. I've seen it. They're gonna help.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: My hairline is not changing. It's thick, Pete. It's not
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: going anywhere. If that happens, they have to adjust the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: bust and canton. They've got to shave his head. No
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: they don't. That's not true that you know what I'll do.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: It'll make the brow look even further out on the bus.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think I' good bald. We do look good now.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: My wife who said you look good? My wife, she
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: told me this morning. I looked very good. She said,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: you when you walk out the door today, she said,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: you look good today. Maybe when I got out of
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: the shower, she said, you look Aggie quit Lions. Thanks
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: for the questions on social media today. We're back in
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: a moment. Go around the NFL. We go down some
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: paths on this show, don't we We do. That's the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: beauty of it. I love it around the league when
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: we let's do this all around. This is the only
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: part we like Pete being around for. It's Jaguars Happy
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguar's
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It is Monday. I am J. P. Shadricks.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: That is Tony Basell, that is Pete Prisco Joe Fortunado's
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: in here. Also Brent Reaber David Choer on the video
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: tonight thanks to our entire crew. As always, it was
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: go around the National Football League and scary situation in Washington,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: d C. Commanders rookie running back Brian Robinson was shot
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Sunday as the victim and an attempted robbery or carjacking
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: in Northeast Washington, d C. In the district the subspects
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: fled fled the scene. Apparently a firearm was recovered a
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: short distance away. He was shot in the glute and
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: lower leg. And then on Monday today he had an
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Instagram post saying he wanted to went surgery and it went, well, Pete,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: this is something. Now, Yeah, it's scary. I mean, he's
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: lucky it wasn't a lot worse. Um, you know they
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: you know, forget football. I mean, this guy's life was
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: in danger and uh, you know, luckily it wasn't major
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: major in terms of where he was shot. He was
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: shot in the butt in the leg, I think, and
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: and you know there's some thought he might be able
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: to play down the road, but that's scary, scary stuff.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: And lee wasn't a lot worse than it us was. Yeah,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: it's it's just it's you feel for the kid, and
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: my goodness, good yeah, good player in a good camp.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, it sounded like he was going to be
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: the starter or at least be in the rotation to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: have significant carries. I just hope, and I haven't read
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: the report on it, that he didn't fight to keep
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: his car. Well, give up the give up the car. Well,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: he's the victim here and whatever happened to him is
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: his tragic and you know, you hate it. Hate what
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just saying, somebody comes to me and
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: once my car, have at it, you know what I mean.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Can you can replace a car, You can't replace the life.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: So that's that's all I'm saying. Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: named the number one player in the Top one Players
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: list for this past season, the fourth time he's topped
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: that list. The players vote on it each year, Is
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: that right? I don't think Listen, I don't think Tom
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Brady's the best player in football right now. I think
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: that's a respect vote by the players. That list was terrible,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: by the way. It wasn't bad, it's awful. It was
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: an awful list. What was so bad about it? Go
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: through and you go read it and read it and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: you'll see. I mean, look, Aaron Donald is the number
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: one player in the national He's not the most valuable
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: player in the national football agin. You wouldn't pick them first,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: but he's the best. But he's the best player in
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: that he's the best player in the national now wouldn't
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: And he's not better than Patrick Mahomes, not that than
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers right now. But you know, but I think
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: it's respect for Tom Brady what he has done. And
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I get it. It's a silly list.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Who cares? It doesn't mean anything. It's only one top
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Where did you have tom Brady top ten? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: So I mean it's I mean, I'm good with it.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady whatever, you put him one, two, three, whatever,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: he's a generational player. He'll go down in this generation.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Is the greatest football player just from a competitive standpoint.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Rings what he did. You know he did in New England,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: what he did in Tampa. I mean, the guy is
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna he's gonna walk into Kington and
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: he'll be Yeah, he'll be what about his ten day hiatus. Yeah,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know and don't care, and I'm
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: tired of speculating and all the stupid rumors on the internet.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: But this is how I described Tom Brady. Get dumb
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: because how I described Tom Brady. Pete. When when you're
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: listening to all time greats, it's gonna be a conversation
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: of you know, it's been Jim Brown, LT, Jerry Rice.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, those are the guys that you kind of
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: debate back and forth. Will now add Tom Brady to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: that conversation as the greatest of all time? Yeah? I
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: used to say Jerry Rice was the greatest football player
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: of all time because if he was better than every
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: receiver who ever played. But now I think it's between
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: him and and uh Tom Brady. So you don't you
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: don't include Jim the Great Jim Brown in that list. Yeah,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: I guess he's in the conversation. I just think you
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: can make a case for running running backs. There's there's
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you could make a case for.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: You can't make a case for any other receiver except
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: for Jerry Rice. What about LT Man? If imagine of
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: LT had actually cared and didn't party the night before games,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: and the Bills released rookie punter Matt Arise a Saturday
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: night after a civil lawsuit alleged that he participated in
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: a gang rape of a seventeen year old last October.
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  Speaker 1: The team says it found out about the allegation in
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  Speaker 1: late July when the alleged victims attorney spoke to a
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  Speaker 1: team lawyer. Well, here's my question. Why is it a
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  Speaker 1: civil suit? Because what I read was disgusting, in like,
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  Speaker 1: just awful, and it is the father of three daughters,
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  Speaker 1: like it just like it made me nauseous. Why is
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  Speaker 1: it not a criminal charge? If and I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: he's guilty INNOCENTI proven guilty. But if he did what
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  Speaker 1: they are alleging he did in the civil suit, why
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  Speaker 1: is the San Diego police not locking him up? Why
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  Speaker 1: why is it not a criminal charge and only a
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  Speaker 1: civil case? Because what I read was you can't I
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  Speaker 1: can't even repeat it. No, it's it was vile, But
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's not enough to charge him Tony. Based on
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  Speaker 1: what I read, that sure seemed like if she went
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  Speaker 1: right to the hospital right afterwards and had an interview
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  Speaker 1: with police, and had they actually called him on the
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  Speaker 1: one and said they had her call him. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean and okay, a couple of things about that, And
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  Speaker 1: it builds with all the security people and all the
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  Speaker 1: information you get. You didn't know about that when you
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  Speaker 1: drafted him, Like how do you even draft a kid now?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if he's innocent, I hope it goes through
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  Speaker 1: and and he gets back and he can go work
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  Speaker 1: again and someone gives him a chance. But if he's
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  Speaker 1: guilty of that, it's more to me, it's more than
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  Speaker 1: just paying a fine or paying some money to her,
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  Speaker 1: to this poor girl in her family. The guys should
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  Speaker 1: be in jail and the in the others that participated
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  Speaker 1: again though again innocent until proven guilty. And if the
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  Speaker 1: police didn't charge him with it, why didn't they? I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you, Pete. That's the only thing that was like,
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  Speaker 1: my you know, the my antentas went up of like
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  Speaker 1: what's going on here? Because you read the report, you
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  Speaker 1: read the civil lawsuit, and I'm like, why has he
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  Speaker 1: not been charged with a criminal offense? Well? What about that?
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  Speaker 1: Was the same with the Shawn Watson. He had all
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  Speaker 1: those he had all those cases against him, but he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't charged with a criminal offense. Yeah, it's interesting. Mike
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  Speaker 1: Tomlin says they'll name a starting quarterback for the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: Quote at our leisure end. Quote, it's gotta be Kenny Pickett, right, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's gonna beat your bisky.
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  Speaker 1: Who would you pick? Well, I think it's who would
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  Speaker 1: I pick? I pick pick it, Get on with it,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: get on with the game. But their offensive okay, this
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: is the people say the offensive line they have is
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  Speaker 1: so bad right now that you might ruin him. If
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  Speaker 1: you pick guy and you ruin him, then you drafted
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  Speaker 1: the wrong guy in the first place. That's my theory
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  Speaker 1: on it. You and I have talked about this. We
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: both agree with this because if that's the case, then Um,
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  Speaker 1: Troy Aikman wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame because
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: he about got killed this first couple of years. Um
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow wouldn't have taken the Bengals to the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: because he got killed both years. Right, I mean right?
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  Speaker 1: You want the guy with the that can come out
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  Speaker 1: from underneath all that. Yeah, I just I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't buy that. I never have you have it. I
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: look around the National Football League at the Jaguars media
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  Speaker 1: schedule is out this week. The three practices Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, close to the public open locker room is back.
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  Speaker 1: You're excited, arn'ts in the week? You know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be nice to meet some of these guys for
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  Speaker 1: the first time. You know what's you know what's funny
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of those guys have never been around
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  Speaker 1: open locker room since they've been in the league, after
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  Speaker 1: the after the preseason games. Is the first one time
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  Speaker 1: that's happened in two years. Yeah, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's good. It's time for the media to get back
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  Speaker 1: in there. It's part of the game. It's part of
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  Speaker 1: your job as a player to interact with the media.
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  Speaker 1: So because that's the voice, that's that's the that's the
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  Speaker 1: voice of the fans. Yeah, I agree. And now it's
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  Speaker 1: changed a bit because everybody has their own Twitter page
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: and yeah, but here's my yes, but because they have
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  Speaker 1: direct but you want but the message coming on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: and Twitter, it's very pro player perspective. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that's not valuable, but good reporters And I don't
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  Speaker 1: want I hesitate to say this because I don't want
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Pete's head to get a bigger than it was. What
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Peach gave to the fans was an inside, unbiased, impartial
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  Speaker 1: look of what was happening. And that's important for the
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  Speaker 1: game of football, and that's important for the fans because
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: as players, we will put the slant and kind of
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  Speaker 1: color it to our benefit. I think that's human nature
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  Speaker 1: and players out there, if you're listening, talk to the reporters,
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  Speaker 1: get to know him and give him the you know,
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  Speaker 1: don't you have to give him all the information, but
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  Speaker 1: just trust to find guys you trust, and it will
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  Speaker 1: be a good relationship back and forth because if you
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  Speaker 1: don't talk to him, that makes it worse on you.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to tell you that, but it does. It
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  Speaker 1: always has. So talk to him, get to know him,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: and the reporters need to get to know him as
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  Speaker 1: people too. Go talk to him about things. He can't
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  Speaker 1: walk up to a guy in ambush them. Find out
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  Speaker 1: what's going on in his life, find out how they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's got everybody's a person, there's no doubt. Oh, everybody's
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: a person. That's the stuff you get from JP that
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: everybody's as for the last minute of the show breaking news.
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  Speaker 1: That's Capital Week. I'm gonna think about being a person.
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  Speaker 1: If you were a tree, what kind of tree would
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  Speaker 1: you be? Pete, there's no cyborgs in the NFL, not yet.
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  Speaker 1: They're all they're all people. They're person they're all the people,
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  Speaker 1: they're all person. Thanks to all our people on this
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  Speaker 1: broadcast crew helping us get this show together. That's Pete Frisco,
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  Speaker 1: that's Tony VA Sally. I'm J. P. Shadrick. I'm also
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  Speaker 1: a person, and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
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