Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Fake Heiress Anna Delvey Finally Set to be Kicked Out of US and Home to Germany Leaving Behind a String of Unpaid Bills and Broken Hearts
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Is convicted con artist Anna Delviy remember the Russian heiress
- 0:12Speaker 2: not aka an Asorican set to be deported DHS Declare's quote,
- 0:21Speaker 2: we look forward to sending her home if they can
- 0:25Speaker 2: find her real home. That's right, you heard me. Is
- 0:31Speaker 2: fake heiress Anna Delvy aka Anna Sorkin finally set to
- 0:38Speaker 2: be deported. The convicted con artist to real name Annasorkan
- 0:43Speaker 2: guilty and second degree larceny, attempted grand larceny and many
- 0:48Speaker 2: other charges after she ripped off so called friends, also
- 0:52Speaker 2: ripping off banks and hotels as part of her own
- 0:56Speaker 2: scheme to make champagne and caviar dreams come true on
- 1:02Speaker 2: a beer budget. She's called the Soho scammer, and she
- 1:06Speaker 2: got four to twelve years behind bars, but she was
- 1:10Speaker 2: released after around twenty four months. One month later, Delvy
- 1:16Speaker 2: Sorcan taken into Ice custody for violating immigration laws. Then
- 1:21Speaker 2: she was released October twenty twenty two with nothing more
- 1:24Speaker 2: than an ankle monitor as she moved into a lux
- 1:27Speaker 2: high rise in Manhattan. Why ice because the high maintenance
- 1:34Speaker 2: con woman came to the US on a tourist visa
- 1:37Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. She did not leave the country when that
- 1:40Speaker 2: visa expired, making her an illegal alien from Germany. Now
- 1:46Speaker 2: she has made a mockery of our court system and
- 1:50Speaker 2: the immigration laws for a long time, pretending to be
- 1:53Speaker 2: a German heiress with a seventy million dollar trust fund.
- 1:59Speaker 2: That's not true. She was born in Russia. Her data
- 2:02Speaker 2: truck driver. She moved to Germany when she was sixteen.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Once she got to New York, she quickly began her grifting,
- 2:10Speaker 2: skipping out on a nearly twelve thousand dollars tab at
- 2:13Speaker 2: a Beakman Hotel, another thirty grand at the eleven Howard Hotel,
- 2:18Speaker 2: and soho forget about that nearly seventy thousand dollars vacation
- 2:22Speaker 2: in Marrakesh on a friend's credit card. Then there was
- 2:27Speaker 2: the twenty thousand bucks at Richard Branson's Tony Kazba Tomado
- 2:32Speaker 2: resort in Morocco. It just goes on and on and on.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Then Netflix heaps more misery onto the works by giving
- 2:40Speaker 2: her three hundred and twenty thousand dollars for the rights
- 2:43Speaker 2: to her life story, and she became the media darling
- 2:47Speaker 2: in a hit docuseries Inventing Anna.
- 2:51Speaker 3: How did she do it, just take a little flashback.
- 2:54Speaker 4: With an extravagant lifestyle and a seemingly endless supply of money,
- 2:57Speaker 4: Delvy was an enigma that was met the age of Instagram,
- 3:01Speaker 4: always at the right place, with the right people, living
- 3:04Speaker 4: her best life, but with no apparent cause for her fame.
- 3:08Speaker 4: Her circle of acquaintances was fed various stories as to
- 3:11Speaker 4: how she accumulated her vast wealth. Her father was a
- 3:14Speaker 4: Russian billionaire, a Russian diplomat, an oil tycoon, a Russian
- 3:17Speaker 4: antiques collector, or a solar energy capitalist. While many parts
- 3:22Speaker 4: of Delvy's story were fluid, some things were consistent. Delby
- 3:26Speaker 4: made no effort to hide her internship at the Paris
- 3:28Speaker 4: magazine Purple, and made it very clear that her dream
- 3:30Speaker 4: was to open a Soho house for art and quote.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Upset fake German heiress and a soroken guilty of grand
- 3:38Speaker 2: larceny after a life of fake ripping people off to
- 3:44Speaker 2: nearly a quarter of a million dollars that we know
- 3:47Speaker 2: of who would believe a Russian heiress and fork over
- 3:52Speaker 2: thousands of dollars and in court she was more upset
- 3:56Speaker 2: about her designer clothing wardrobe than she was about being
- 4:00Speaker 2: found guilty.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Now that's unusual.
- 4:03Speaker 2: This girl, Anna Soroken also known as Anna Delviy, somehow
- 4:07Speaker 2: manages to con so ho Elite out of a quarter
- 4:12Speaker 2: of a million dollars.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Joining me in all star lineup.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Jeff Cortize, former FBI special agent, Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
- 4:22Speaker 2: author of Red Flags, Doctor William in July, psychologist in
- 4:26Speaker 2: John Limley, crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter John Limley, help
- 4:30Speaker 2: me out. This girl shows up. Her skin is so pale,
- 4:35Speaker 2: she looks like a ghost. And she's got this long
- 4:39Speaker 2: brown hair parted usually slightly on the side, big glasses,
- 4:44Speaker 2: and the hair hangs down like curtains over her face.
- 4:47Speaker 2: You can barely see the eyes, you know. The hair
- 4:50Speaker 2: is so close down. I can't see her face. That
- 4:53Speaker 2: makes me suspicious. But who would buy into my dad
- 4:57Speaker 2: is a Russian billionaire?
- 4:58Speaker 3: Give me your money?
- 4:59Speaker 1: Oop, I forgot my credit card. What happened?
- 5:02Speaker 3: Let's just start at the beginning.
- 5:03Speaker 5: Well, Nancy, apparently a lot of people were just hungry
- 5:06Speaker 5: to buy into this story. If New York City is
- 5:10Speaker 5: a city of dreams, which we hear it called all
- 5:13Speaker 5: the time, Anna had enough for the entire Island, she
- 5:17Speaker 5: had longed to be a member of the upper echelon
- 5:20Speaker 5: of Manhattan system.
- 5:21Speaker 2: I understand something, John Lindlaye, Crime Online Investigator reporter, did
- 5:25Speaker 2: you just call her giant fraud? Ripping people off tens
- 5:29Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars? Including one woman that took the
- 5:32Speaker 2: stand a working class person who goes on an all
- 5:36Speaker 2: expense paid trip with her to Morocco and then she
- 5:41Speaker 2: gets stiffed with a sixty five thousand dollars bill. Wait
- 5:44Speaker 2: are you calling that a dream?
- 5:46Speaker 3: How go it? Wait? How dare you person?
- 5:49Speaker 5: This dream is another person's night.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Here you find yourself with cliches.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Don't the American dream my rear end. Jeff Cortiese, I
- 5:58Speaker 2: call it something a lot different than the American dream?
- 6:01Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
- 6:02Speaker 6: I mean this was a at least on the front end,
- 6:05Speaker 6: a well executed fraud.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Over the long term, it didn't.
- 6:10Speaker 6: It didn't have the legs to remain sustainable a long term.
- 6:14Speaker 2: I mean she managed to pull it off, Wendy Patrick,
- 6:16Speaker 2: for you know what, two years? I forgot how long
- 6:18Speaker 2: she managed to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, going
- 6:21Speaker 2: on trips to Morocco, staying at I think it's eleven Howard,
- 6:26Speaker 2: some ritzy. I don't even know how you find that
- 6:28Speaker 2: hotel in New York. It's one of those places. I
- 6:30Speaker 2: don't think it's even marked. Only rich people go there.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, what is what happened to John Limley, the
- 6:37Speaker 2: Voice of Reason? He just called this the American Dream?
- 6:40Speaker 1: What?
- 6:42Speaker 5: Well?
- 6:42Speaker 2: I think?
- 6:43Speaker 7: I think John Limley, what he was talking about is
- 6:45Speaker 7: there are there are some misguided, vulnerable people that really
- 6:49Speaker 7: are subjected to social predators like Anna. And you know,
- 6:53Speaker 7: some people just are absolutely you guys mentioned the glamour,
- 6:56Speaker 7: the glitz. It's like they want to believe and this
- 6:59Speaker 7: fake till you make it lifestyle. You know, nobody even
- 7:02Speaker 7: took the time to say, show me the money, show
- 7:05Speaker 7: me the fun, show me the corroboration behind your wild stories.
- 7:09Speaker 7: Because caught up in the moment in an Instagram savvy society,
- 7:13Speaker 7: people want to be in the company of people like Anna,
- 7:16Speaker 7: and sadly, as a prosecutor, I am just we are
- 7:19Speaker 7: just absolutely just terrified of people like this that are
- 7:23Speaker 7: able to so easily infiltrate our social network.
- 7:26Speaker 1: To doctor Williams.
- 7:27Speaker 2: July, psychologist, author of a Dark and they did a
- 7:29Speaker 2: quit her off, which I was shocked about because this
- 7:31Speaker 2: girl actually took the stand Graham larceny for allegedly stealing
- 7:36Speaker 2: sixty two thousand dollars from a friend that she said,
- 7:41Speaker 2: come along, I'll pay for everything on a chip to Morocco. Okay,
- 7:45Speaker 2: I think they actually punished the friend because when you
- 7:48Speaker 2: go on a luxurious trip to Morocco, you stay in
- 7:52Speaker 2: a five star hotel. They went to Spa treatments that
- 7:56Speaker 2: were costing like three hundred dollars a treatment.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Whatever.
- 7:59Speaker 2: That treatment may be laying in mud, getting their nails, whatever,
- 8:05Speaker 2: three hundred, But I think that Jerry punished that friend
- 8:08Speaker 2: for going along with the excess doctor July.
- 8:12Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, at worse, Nancy, what you're looking at
- 8:15Speaker 8: in cases like this, at worst is a psychopathological level
- 8:18Speaker 8: of narcissism. At best, what you're looking at as a
- 8:21Speaker 8: person who has so much greed and desire to please
- 8:25Speaker 8: herself that she doesn't care what the consequences are for
- 8:28Speaker 8: other people. You were asking earlier, and I just want
- 8:31Speaker 8: to address what you were asking earlier about why and
- 8:34Speaker 8: how can this sort of thing happen. We're all baffled
- 8:38Speaker 8: when we see this, but it's age old. It's a
- 8:40Speaker 8: tale as old as time. Charlottan comes in and fools everyone.
- 8:44Speaker 8: So there's a part of people that are looking at
- 8:47Speaker 8: this who want to believe this because they want to
- 8:50Speaker 8: hang out with the person who has this kind of
- 8:53Speaker 8: social these types of social credentials, and they want to
- 8:58Speaker 8: believe that she's an heiress so that they can be
- 9:00Speaker 8: with her. And people are blaming social media. It's not
- 9:03Speaker 8: the fault of social media. Social media is just a
- 9:06Speaker 8: facilitator to the neediness of other people who want to
- 9:10Speaker 8: believe and accept it.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Bye, are you piling on?
- 9:13Speaker 2: Everybody on the panel except Cortiese Thank goodness, keeps talking
- 9:18Speaker 2: about the Instagram and society. You know what, Instagram didn't
- 9:21Speaker 2: have a dang thing to.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Do with this.
- 9:22Speaker 2: It was all miss thing.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Is fraudster, grand larcenist, Anna Dilvy aka and Asorican finally
- 9:43Speaker 2: headed home to Germany to make a living like everybody else.
- 9:49Speaker 2: What did we learn at her trial? Segment three? Will
- 9:53Speaker 2: those banks, hotels, and especially her friends ever get paid back?
- 9:58Speaker 1: Probably never.
- 10:00Speaker 2: An Adelby is set to be kicked out of the country,
- 10:03Speaker 2: Finally out of her pash New York high rise where
- 10:06Speaker 2: she's been hidden away for months.
- 10:10Speaker 3: But let's take a walk down memory lane.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Her parents, hard working middle class people that she borrowed
- 10:18Speaker 2: a ton of money, borrowed. I east ole a ton
- 10:21Speaker 2: of money from them as well. Hey, but she didn't
- 10:24Speaker 2: just create a different identity her parents. I think the
- 10:28Speaker 2: dad drives a truck, and I know what that's like.
- 10:32Speaker 2: My dad, as you know, worked on the railroad. My
- 10:35Speaker 2: mom started as a bank teller. My grandfather drove an
- 10:39Speaker 2: ice truck and a school bus, anything to put the
- 10:42Speaker 2: food on the table. But she not only assumed different
- 10:46Speaker 2: an identity for herself, but she also created a whole
- 10:49Speaker 2: team of imaginary assistants, an assistant, an accountant.
- 10:54Speaker 3: A manager.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Limley, is this true of her imaginary assistance?
- 10:59Speaker 5: Well, were not so imaginary. She even had the concierge
- 11:04Speaker 5: at a hotel essentially on her staff. At her beck
- 11:08Speaker 5: and Call. She was able to convince people of not
- 11:12Speaker 5: only her wealth, but all of her aspirations, her dreams.
- 11:16Speaker 5: She really wanted to build this member's only arts club
- 11:21Speaker 5: on Park Avenue South and was even working to get
- 11:24Speaker 5: the financing for it, and was not too far awaiting this.
- 11:27Speaker 2: John Lanley she lied to a bank using phony records.
- 11:31Speaker 9: Anna went too far when she attempted to take out
- 11:34Speaker 9: a loan for twenty two million dollars to finance a
- 11:37Speaker 9: visual arts center she called the Anna Delvey Foundation. In all,
- 11:41Speaker 9: Anna reportedly scammed a total of two hundred and seventy
- 11:45Speaker 9: five thousand dollars, and his double life began to crumble
- 11:48Speaker 9: as hotels went after her unpaid debts and banks began
- 11:52Speaker 9: to investigate her alleged assets.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Wow that's Jesse Palmer at Daily Mail TV.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Wow okay so friends and acquaintance to say Sorokan spent
- 12:01Speaker 2: years playing the part of an art obsessed German heiress.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Sometimes she'd be Russian, sometimes she'd be German. She had
- 12:09Speaker 2: an accent to go with it, Rubbing shoulders with the
- 12:12Speaker 2: fashion elite at Paris Fashion Week, frequently spotted in London
- 12:16Speaker 2: night spots. Then those who knew her saw her at
- 12:20Speaker 2: a party in Berlin. She told everybody she had just
- 12:23Speaker 2: flown in on a private jet. How did she pull
- 12:27Speaker 2: it off? Scamming nearly three hundred thousand dollars. It was
- 12:31Speaker 2: only when these ritzy hotels in New York went after
- 12:35Speaker 2: her to pay her bills. That the whole thing fell apart.
- 12:38Speaker 2: But what really amazed me. You know, I don't know
- 12:42Speaker 2: if you do this or not. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
- 12:45Speaker 2: author of red Flags on Amazon. Wendy, under the constitution,
- 12:51Speaker 2: you can't force a defendant into court in handcuffs or
- 12:55Speaker 2: leg irons or waist shackle. You can't force them to
- 13:00Speaker 2: come in in inmate jumpsuit, prison blues or orange or stripes,
- 13:05Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. But I would always keep
- 13:09Speaker 2: a jacket and pants and a couple of different sizes
- 13:12Speaker 2: in my office.
- 13:13Speaker 3: So when a defendant would show up.
- 13:15Speaker 2: On Monday morning trial calendar and say, oh, yeah, I
- 13:17Speaker 2: want to go to trial, but I don't have a suit,
- 13:20Speaker 2: I go, oh, I do have a suit for you.
- 13:22Speaker 2: But she was more concerned about what she wore to
- 13:25Speaker 2: court every day. She had She actually had a personal
- 13:28Speaker 2: dresser dialist dressing her for court. Wendy.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Nancy, what.
- 13:34Speaker 7: You're describing really is something hopefully the judge will take
- 13:37Speaker 7: into considering it sentencing, because it's this entire mentality of
- 13:42Speaker 7: I don't want to say just not getting it. That
- 13:44Speaker 7: would be too kind. It's a complete underappreciation or I
- 13:47Speaker 7: should say non appreciation for the fact that.
- 13:49Speaker 3: The rest of us work for a living. Her family
- 13:52Speaker 3: works for a living.
- 13:53Speaker 7: There is so much more to life than clothes and
- 13:55Speaker 7: appearances an image. You know. One of the things that
- 13:57Speaker 7: distinguishes this case is the fact that this over emphasis
- 14:01Speaker 7: on image, on money, on glamour sounds like it absolutely
- 14:05Speaker 7: overrode every ounce of judgment that she had and to
- 14:08Speaker 7: take that into the courtroom, as you mentioned, Nancy is
- 14:11Speaker 7: probably a little bit beyond the pale.
- 14:12Speaker 3: So well, listen to our friends and inside edition. This
- 14:14Speaker 3: is Diane mcinernie.
- 14:15Speaker 1: This one may look.
- 14:16Speaker 10: Like she is dressed for a fashion show, and her
- 14:18Speaker 10: designer does, but the wannabe socialite is actually on trial
- 14:21Speaker 10: for swindling hundreds of thousands of dollars from unsuspecting people.
- 14:25Speaker 1: She was so concerned.
- 14:25Speaker 7: About how she looked in court she actually hired a stylist.
- 14:29Speaker 10: Is she in a courtroom or at a red carpet event.
- 14:32Speaker 10: Annahsakid is accused of posing as an heiress to live
- 14:35Speaker 10: an extravagant lifestyle, but it's what she's wearing to trial
- 14:39Speaker 10: that is making headlines. The twenty seven year old defendant
- 14:42Speaker 10: showed up wearing a form fitting black dress with a
- 14:44Speaker 10: plunging neckline.
- 14:45Speaker 3: And choker necklace.
- 14:47Speaker 10: It's a look that could backfire a Warren stylist Don Karen.
- 14:50Speaker 11: Black dress definitely a no no. A hyper sexualize her.
- 14:54Speaker 11: It makes her appear to be like a seductress. The
- 14:57Speaker 11: choker kind of shows to me that she should trying
- 15:00Speaker 11: to be overtly sexy. The more sexy she appears to
- 15:04Speaker 11: be it hurts her.
- 15:06Speaker 10: Soora can is so obsessed with her clothes. She refused
- 15:09Speaker 10: to enter the courtroom because the outfit she was given
- 15:11Speaker 10: to wear was not up to her standards. The angry
- 15:14Speaker 10: judge told her this is unacceptable and inappropriate.
- 15:17Speaker 1: This is not a fashion show.
- 15:19Speaker 10: But Sorrikin's lawyer, Todd Spodek says accounts of his client
- 15:23Speaker 10: delaying the trial because of fashion are being blown out
- 15:26Speaker 10: of proportion.
- 15:27Speaker 12: It's not that she didn't want to come out only
- 15:29Speaker 12: because of the clothes. She's going through a major criminal
- 15:32Speaker 12: trial that's publicized every day. It's emotional and it's her life.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Don't cry too much for Anna Sorokan. She was living
- 15:40Speaker 2: a life that many people, not me, but many people
- 15:44Speaker 2: dream of. She made a show of proving she belonged
- 15:49Speaker 2: with the rich and famous, decked out in signature sealine glasses,
- 15:54Speaker 2: couci sandals, high in bots from Nete to Porte at
- 15:59Speaker 2: least walk her. She usually hold up in a four
- 16:03Speaker 2: hundred dollars a night room for months on in at
- 16:07Speaker 2: Manhattan's Very very Luxurious eleven Howard Hotel. Concierge at the
- 16:15Speaker 2: hotel said they became friends when she would repeatedly routinely
- 16:22Speaker 2: pass out Crisp one hundred dollar tips to both them
- 16:27Speaker 2: and Uber drivers. When I hear the words Crisp one
- 16:32Speaker 2: hundred dollars, how many hundred dollar bills do you have, Jackie?
- 16:34Speaker 2: I don't think I have any. So Jeff Cartiese, former
- 16:39Speaker 2: FBI special agent, when I hear the word Crisp one
- 16:42Speaker 2: hundred dollar bills, that means you just got them out
- 16:44Speaker 2: of an ATM or from the bank.
- 16:46Speaker 3: So how does she.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Manage to defraud the bank, to get cash, to tip
- 16:52Speaker 2: concierge to fake for her.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question, you know.
- 16:56Speaker 2: I think it's a numbers game.
- 16:59Speaker 6: In many respects. There were multiple banks engaged in her activity.
- 17:04Speaker 6: She appears, based on the information, limited her trips back
- 17:08Speaker 6: to the same well, though she would go back to
- 17:11Speaker 6: the same bank on occasion for.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Certain banking activity.
- 17:17Speaker 6: She did share the wealth amongst the banks within New
- 17:20Speaker 6: York so as not to draw too much attention over
- 17:23Speaker 6: an extended period of time.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Well, what I understand that she did, and I'm going
- 17:27Speaker 2: to have to get clarity on this, is that she
- 17:30Speaker 2: would provide fake bank records to one bank, and then
- 17:36Speaker 2: she was trying to get a massive loan for twenty
- 17:38Speaker 2: two million, so she they wanted a down payment, so
- 17:42Speaker 2: she faked.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Records and got I don't know, fifty to one.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Hundred grand from one bank and used that money to
- 17:49Speaker 2: get a loan as a down payment on a loan,
- 17:51Speaker 2: a bigger loan at another bank, none of the banks
- 17:54Speaker 2: realizing what the others were doing. Another thing that really
- 17:57Speaker 2: fascinates me, doctor Williams July, and not in a good way.
- 18:00Speaker 2: It's like looking at a tarantula under a glass box.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Okay, that sort of fascination.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Is the way she carried on this big, huge, imaginary life.
- 18:12Speaker 2: She would splash out on shopping sprees at boutiques, very
- 18:17Speaker 2: expensive personal training sessions and beautician appointments, and she would
- 18:20Speaker 2: always bring along a friend and pay for them and
- 18:23Speaker 2: they would be all impressed. The social elite as they
- 18:28Speaker 2: call themselves, would go to lavish in large dinners for celebs,
- 18:34Speaker 2: are as, CEOs, all in restaurants there in Soho And
- 18:39Speaker 2: if you do look at her online, she's always drinking
- 18:42Speaker 2: a big glass of wine at some beautiful location. How
- 18:47Speaker 2: can an adult have that type of an imaginary life?
- 18:50Speaker 2: I mean, I know when children have an imaginary friend,
- 18:53Speaker 2: there's all sorts of psychological reasons for that, maybe just security,
- 18:57Speaker 2: but an.
- 18:57Speaker 8: Adult, certainly people can have these types of imaginary lives
- 19:02Speaker 8: and they're going to recruit other people. But just because
- 19:05Speaker 8: of the chronological age does not make a person have
- 19:09Speaker 8: the maturation that they should have. And then that can
- 19:11Speaker 8: be from a lot of different things. But certainly, as
- 19:15Speaker 8: much as she can get other people to buy into this,
- 19:18Speaker 8: then that's because she's going to continue and she's going
- 19:21Speaker 8: to expand that imaginary life. And people can be very charming.
- 19:25Speaker 8: They can be very off putting or excuse me, they
- 19:27Speaker 8: can be very charming, and they can be very persuasive,
- 19:30Speaker 8: and they can get other people to buy in. There
- 19:32Speaker 8: are people that can go into banks and they can
- 19:34Speaker 8: fake a story and they can get people to believe
- 19:36Speaker 8: that it happens every day, and this is a person
- 19:39Speaker 8: who can do that, and the imaginary fast parts of this.
- 19:43Speaker 8: I mean, I wouldn't. I haven't examined her, so I
- 19:44Speaker 8: can't go so far to say she's delusional or anything
- 19:47Speaker 8: like that. But clearly she has the ability the maybe
- 19:53Speaker 8: a pathological type of charm. Some people can do that.
- 19:55Speaker 8: And also you can remember other people are buying into
- 19:58Speaker 8: this because the banks aren't jaking prdundials properly.
- 20:01Speaker 13: Under the name Anna Delvi, she arrived in New York
- 20:04Speaker 13: with a high priced wardrobe and was known for handing
- 20:06Speaker 13: out one hundred dollars cash tips, reportedly saying at different
- 20:10Speaker 13: points that her father was a diplomat, an oil baron,
- 20:12Speaker 13: or involved in the solar panel business, none of which
- 20:15Speaker 13: are the case. People who knew her said she often
- 20:17Speaker 13: asked others to use their credit cards to cover cab
- 20:20Speaker 13: and plane fares and then failing to repay them.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Our friend Michael Sissak at Time Magazine online, Yeah, there
- 20:26Speaker 2: was one story that came out.
- 20:27Speaker 3: At trial.
- 20:30Speaker 2: How she hired a PR firm to organize her birthday
- 20:33Speaker 2: party in Soho. It emerged she never paid the bill.
- 20:38Speaker 2: During her stay at eleven Howard. She struck up a
- 20:42Speaker 2: friend there. In addition to the concierges to and as
- 20:47Speaker 2: for the recommendations for the very very verty best food
- 20:51Speaker 2: in Soho, we also learned that on one occasion she
- 20:56Speaker 2: invited friends to dinner at Soho and bro and the
- 21:01Speaker 2: friend ended up paying a whopper massive bill when Soroken's
- 21:06Speaker 2: twelve credit cards were all declined, but Sorokin paid her
- 21:12Speaker 2: back triple the amount the following day in cash. We
- 21:17Speaker 2: also learned that she would go to unique treatments like
- 21:23Speaker 2: infrared saunas in the East Village, go out to dinner
- 21:29Speaker 2: after celebrity training sessions with Casey Duke, which soro Can
- 21:35Speaker 2: also paid for.
- 21:36Speaker 1: John Limley.
- 21:37Speaker 2: How did she get money from one bank to get
- 21:40Speaker 2: a loan from another bank?
- 21:42Speaker 1: Howd that work?
- 21:43Speaker 5: It's a very interesting line to follow how she did this.
- 21:48Speaker 5: She would go to a bank and ask for a
- 21:53Speaker 5: certain line of credit based on a lot of times
- 21:57Speaker 5: just a promise of the fact that she had millions
- 22:01Speaker 5: overseas that she could repay the loan, and she would
- 22:05Speaker 5: go from one bank with that money to another bank
- 22:11Speaker 5: and get an even larger In fact, here's an example
- 22:16Speaker 5: she talked to an exam to an executive with City
- 22:19Speaker 5: National Bank into giving her a line of credit on
- 22:23Speaker 5: her account for one hundred thousand dollars, promising to repay
- 22:27Speaker 5: it with a wire transfer from a European account. She'd
- 22:31Speaker 5: used that money in a failed attempt to secure a
- 22:35Speaker 5: twenty five million dollar loan from Fortress Investment Group, and
- 22:40Speaker 5: the one of the managing directors at Fortress has said
- 22:44Speaker 5: that she ran into problems providing details about the origin
- 22:49Speaker 5: of her wealth. Someone actually thought to ask about that.
- 22:52Speaker 2: You know, her lines became more and more spectacular. Wendy Patchett,
- 22:55Speaker 2: California Prosecutor. In fact, she even managed to charter a
- 22:58Speaker 2: private plan on one occasion with absolutely zero money.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Wendy, how do you do that?
- 23:05Speaker 8: Yeah?
- 23:05Speaker 7: The level of sophistication Nancy, as John was explaining, and
- 23:09Speaker 7: as we know now looking back, was absolutely stunning. It
- 23:12Speaker 7: was almost as if she was daring authorities to catch
- 23:15Speaker 7: her in this escalating scheme of sophistication. And you know,
- 23:19Speaker 7: the answer to how you do that is the same
- 23:21Speaker 7: way we've committed we see people committing other crimes. Is
- 23:24Speaker 7: sometimes people are so trusting because image matters. You know,
- 23:28Speaker 7: this is something I talk about in my book. We
- 23:30Speaker 7: tend to attribute all these positive qualities to somebody who
- 23:33Speaker 7: comes across as believable, whether they're pretty, or we like
- 23:37Speaker 7: what they say, or we're enamored with their axe and
- 23:39Speaker 7: or their clothes. All the types of things that Anna
- 23:41Speaker 7: used to get ahead can fool other people into letting
- 23:45Speaker 7: them acquire the kind of wealth and as you point out,
- 23:48Speaker 7: tangible benefits that this young lady did.
- 23:50Speaker 2: John Lenley tell me about the lux treatment she got
- 23:53Speaker 2: in Morocco where she ended up stiffing her friend with
- 23:55Speaker 2: the bail.
- 23:56Speaker 5: Well, when they went to Marrakesh, she went with a
- 24:01Speaker 5: friend and she had offered to pay for everything. Now
- 24:06Speaker 5: her friend actually offered to help pay, but she said, no, no, no,
- 24:10Speaker 5: you work hard for your money, harder for your money
- 24:14Speaker 5: than I do. This is my treat. And they would
- 24:17Speaker 5: go out for a round of drinks and oops, she
- 24:21Speaker 5: forgot her credit cards. So she would ask, you know,
- 24:25Speaker 5: very quietly, if the friend could, you know, just cover
- 24:28Speaker 5: this one check. And that would happen over and over
- 24:31Speaker 5: and over again, and this friend in the end ended
- 24:35Speaker 5: up covering the sixty two thousand dollars cost of the flights, dining, shopping,
- 24:42Speaker 5: and the stay at a hotel where they had a
- 24:44Speaker 5: private villa with a courtyard, a pool, and a butler,
- 24:48Speaker 5: all the extravagance that you might say was fit for,
- 24:52Speaker 5: say a Kardashian.
- 24:53Speaker 2: A sixty two thousand dollars vacation that is more than
- 24:59Speaker 2: most poole make an entire year. While in Marrakesh, Morocco,
- 25:06Speaker 2: Soroken aka delv took part in all the activities the
- 25:11Speaker 2: hotel had to offer.
- 25:13Speaker 3: For instance, they took private tennis lessons. They ate breakfast
- 25:17Speaker 3: pool side. A butler would deliver.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Them fresh watermelons and bottles of rose. They roamed the gardens, relaxed,
- 25:30Speaker 2: swam in the villa's private.
- 25:32Speaker 3: Pool, took a tour of the.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Wine cellar, eight dinner with live Moroccan music, before capping
- 25:41Speaker 2: off their knights with cocktails at the Churchill Bar. I mean,
- 25:47Speaker 2: this is a trip that most people.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Only dream of.
- 25:51Speaker 2: And now here's miss thing having a nearly seventy thousand
- 25:55Speaker 2: dollars vacation built on crime.
- 26:00Speaker 7: You know, Nancy, the best things in life are free,
- 26:02Speaker 7: and everybody knows that. So when you look at a
- 26:05Speaker 7: story like this, part of I think the offense that
- 26:08Speaker 7: everyone is taking is to use crime and criminal activity
- 26:11Speaker 7: to build a fake world where people pay the kind
- 26:15Speaker 7: of money that most of us would never do even
- 26:17Speaker 7: if we had it. And you talk about the value
- 26:19Speaker 7: of hard work the way we were all raised, it
- 26:21Speaker 7: sounds like those she surrounded herself were really taken with
- 26:25Speaker 7: the fact that someone they believed was as rich and
- 26:27Speaker 7: famous as she was would be interested in them. That
- 26:30Speaker 7: is a basic human need. Ironically, that was being satisfied
- 26:35Speaker 7: through crime and through, as you pointed out earlier, having
- 26:38Speaker 7: this imaginary friend that's larger than life.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Gray, Anna Delphi, the froster who ripped people off to
- 26:57Speaker 2: the tune of nearly half a million dollars, finally going
- 27:01Speaker 2: home to Germany, leaving behind a string of unpaid tabs
- 27:04Speaker 2: and broken hearts. What exactly did Anna Delvey do?
- 27:09Speaker 8: You know?
- 27:09Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 27:10Speaker 2: About you, Jeff Cortize, FBI special agent, but I loved
- 27:14Speaker 2: it when I would. Of course, the prosecutor gets in
- 27:17Speaker 2: front of an entire jury panel and reads the indictment
- 27:20Speaker 2: before you begin jury selection, so everybody knows who's charged with.
- 27:25Speaker 1: What and what all the counts are.
- 27:27Speaker 2: And I would love it to say state versus Jeff
- 27:31Speaker 2: Cortize aka Charlie Tuna aka the Hammer aka Blah.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Blah blah, and so forth and so on.
- 27:41Speaker 2: I would love reading out ten or twelve aliases, and
- 27:45Speaker 2: by the time you've done reading that.
- 27:47Speaker 3: The jury just looks at the person and goes, You're
- 27:49Speaker 3: so you're guilty, You're guilty.
- 27:52Speaker 1: Why are you?
- 27:53Speaker 3: Why do you have twelve aliases?
- 27:55Speaker 2: And this girl, I'm telling you, not only had aliases,
- 27:59Speaker 2: but she had fake assistance.
- 28:02Speaker 3: She lied about her mom.
- 28:04Speaker 1: And dad who they really are.
- 28:06Speaker 2: The reality is that her father was a truck driver
- 28:11Speaker 2: and he went on to work at or start a
- 28:17Speaker 2: heating and air conditioned business. The friends in school called
- 28:22Speaker 2: her Barbie and her favorite movie was Mean Girls. And
- 28:27Speaker 2: I don't think that's any of that is good. Okay,
- 28:31Speaker 2: that means nothing good. Jeff Cartize, No, I agree one
- 28:34Speaker 2: hundred percent. You hit it on the head.
- 28:36Speaker 6: You know, the minute individuals start layering themselves with aliases
- 28:41Speaker 6: and aka's, you know they're putting up walls and barriers
- 28:44Speaker 6: that any jury is going to be able to see through.
- 28:48Speaker 6: You know, she really executed a well thought out plan
- 28:51Speaker 6: against the banks, using multiple techniques and methods to siphon
- 28:57Speaker 6: money from them. You know, from top to bottom. She
- 29:01Speaker 6: exploited what people want to see and exploited the type
- 29:07Speaker 6: of lifestyle that people want to have to the extent that,
- 29:09Speaker 6: you know, if I was going to run undercover, I
- 29:11Speaker 6: would have done many of the techniques that she did
- 29:14Speaker 6: in order to manipulate my audience.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Well, another aspect to this, John Lemley, is I remember
- 29:20Speaker 2: one day when John David came running home and went,
- 29:24Speaker 2: so and.
- 29:25Speaker 3: So's mom is so cool. She works for Chick fil
- 29:29Speaker 3: A and she.
- 29:30Speaker 2: Gets free T shirts and she gets this, and she
- 29:34Speaker 2: gets that. I think the lady who's very lovely was
- 29:38Speaker 2: in marketing or PR and would bring home, you know,
- 29:41Speaker 2: like a T shirt or a moocau or what whatever
- 29:45Speaker 2: they had. And I thought briefly of creating a different
- 29:50Speaker 2: persona to try to impress John Davis's friends, who were
- 29:54Speaker 2: then four years old. Okay, but I just decided, no,
- 29:58Speaker 2: I'm just going to stick with a tree, you know,
- 30:00Speaker 2: and let the chips.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Fall where they may. John Lomoy, I mean.
- 30:05Speaker 3: That would hurt me if I found out the twins
- 30:08Speaker 3: were lying.
- 30:09Speaker 1: About their mom and dad, that what we are.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Isn't good enough to fit in to their self image
- 30:19Speaker 2: they're projecting that would really hurt my feelers.
- 30:21Speaker 5: And that's exactly the way her parents felt about the
- 30:24Speaker 5: whole thing. They actually did help fund her through college
- 30:29Speaker 5: and as she was getting out on her own, but
- 30:31Speaker 5: there was never any sort of trust fund. She moved
- 30:36Speaker 5: to Germany in two thousand and seven, and after she
- 30:40Speaker 5: dropped out of college, she interned in public relations before
- 30:43Speaker 5: then moving to Paris and became an intern at Purple Magazine.
- 30:48Speaker 5: Once she arrived in New York City, she just somehow
- 30:51Speaker 5: managed to be in all the sort of right places.
- 30:54Speaker 5: And she was this German heiress according to her, with
- 30:59Speaker 5: a father, and that you would think was.
- 31:02Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I thought she was supposed to be
- 31:04Speaker 3: a Russian heiress.
- 31:05Speaker 5: Well, no, she was from Russia, but she told people
- 31:09Speaker 5: she was a German heiress. What's really funny, though, is
- 31:13Speaker 5: that her German, according to a lot of people, was terrible.
- 31:17Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 31:18Speaker 2: I want you to take a listen to what the
- 31:19Speaker 2: defense claims in closing arguments.
- 31:22Speaker 14: She had to fake it until she could make it.
- 31:24Speaker 14: Those words from the defendant's own attorney, who claimed she
- 31:27Speaker 14: never intended to commit a crime. But prosecutors call her
- 31:30Speaker 14: a fraud and a liar who would do almost anything
- 31:32Speaker 14: to prolong her life of luxury. This morning, the fate
- 31:38Speaker 14: of an alleged scam artist is now in the hands
- 31:40Speaker 14: of a jury, both sides wrapping up arguments for a
- 31:45Speaker 14: case that's drawn international outrage. The style savvy defendant even
- 31:49Speaker 14: turning heads in court wearing an animal print dress. She
- 31:53Speaker 14: called herself Anna Delvi, a fashionable globetrotter who prosecutors say
- 31:57Speaker 14: was pretending to be a high flying German air living
- 32:00Speaker 14: a fairytale life of glitz and glam among Manhattan's elite.
- 32:06Speaker 6: The.
- 32:08Speaker 7: Order of law and that.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Beyond.
- 32:15Speaker 14: Prosecutors say, the twenty eight year old, whose real name
- 32:18Speaker 14: is Annasorrikan, stole two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
- 32:22Speaker 14: from banks, hotels, and friends, all part of an elaborate
- 32:26Speaker 14: scheme to keep up her illusion of grandeur. Prosecutors also
- 32:29Speaker 14: alleged Sorrikin tried securing a twenty two million dollar loan
- 32:33Speaker 14: to operate a private club, claims her lawyer denies.
- 32:37Speaker 12: I do not believe she had the intent to ever
- 32:39Speaker 12: commit a crime. Whether she owes people money, that's a
- 32:42Speaker 12: fact of life. That's that's the reality of doing business
- 32:45Speaker 12: in New York.
- 32:45Speaker 14: Now, facing charges of grand larceny and theft, she could
- 32:49Speaker 14: spend up to fifteen years in prison if convicted. An
- 32:52Speaker 14: official say even if acquitted, she will be deported to Germany.
- 32:56Speaker 14: Sorkin's attorney says she got in over her head, but
- 32:59Speaker 14: was this time until she could pay everyone back.
- 33:02Speaker 2: You're hearing our buddy wit Johnson at GMA, at ABC.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Pay everybody back.
- 33:07Speaker 2: I saw no signs of paying everybody back and calling
- 33:10Speaker 2: this doing business.
- 33:13Speaker 1: That's certainly putting perfume on the pig.
- 33:15Speaker 3: Now you know there's a problem.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Wendy Patchrick, California prosecutor and author of red Flags. When
- 33:20Speaker 2: the defense to theft and fraud is fake it till
- 33:25Speaker 2: you make it, okay, I would not say that that's
- 33:29Speaker 2: a valid defense and a fraud case, you're admitting you're
- 33:32Speaker 2: faking it.
- 33:33Speaker 1: It's probably not a good theme for the defense one.
- 33:36Speaker 7: I'm sure they're rethinking right about now. You don't want
- 33:39Speaker 7: to that's kind of playing right into the prosecutor's case.
- 33:43Speaker 7: Now what they probably were trying to do. Interestingly, and
- 33:46Speaker 7: trial and Nancy, you and I have both seen this
- 33:47Speaker 7: is really kind of painting this vulnerability picture of the
- 33:50Speaker 7: defendant to try to make somebody feel sorry for her,
- 33:53Speaker 7: that she was caught up in this false lifestyle, felt
- 33:56Speaker 7: she had to pretend she was somebody she wasn't.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Who can't relate to that there's a little bit of
- 34:00Speaker 3: Anna and all of us, you know. Some of the themes were.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Well wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I want to isolate
- 34:05Speaker 2: what you just said. The defense argued at trial as
- 34:09Speaker 2: if Anna Sorokan aka Anna Delphy was some type of
- 34:14Speaker 2: a renegade and a rebel, someone who was, you know,
- 34:20Speaker 2: making her own path in the world creatively.
- 34:23Speaker 3: B As, don't tell.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Me there's a little bit of Anna Sorocan in me,
- 34:27Speaker 2: because that was their defense. There's a little bit of
- 34:29Speaker 2: Anna and all of us. Oh uh uh uh no,
- 34:32Speaker 2: because she is a fraud, a thief, and she ripped
- 34:36Speaker 2: people off and they're never going to get repaid, Wendy, Right, that's.
- 34:40Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
- 34:41Speaker 6: That.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Well, that's probably why she.
- 34:42Speaker 7: Was convicted, because these defenses are just not realistic to jurors,
- 34:46Speaker 7: to hardworking jurors, and just cannot relate to the fact
- 34:50Speaker 7: that we are anything like this picture of Anna. Nonetheless,
- 34:55Speaker 7: we have seen this defense time and again, and thankfully
- 34:58Speaker 7: it is not successful.
- 34:59Speaker 3: Take a listen to this.
- 35:01Speaker 14: The courtroom drama played out late into the evening. At
- 35:04Speaker 14: one point the jury appeared deadlocked, the defense asking for
- 35:07Speaker 14: a mistrial, but then the verdict, jurors agreeing with the
- 35:10Speaker 14: prosecution that Anasaurkin built her fairytale life on a foundation
- 35:15Speaker 14: of theft and lives. Overnight, a New York City jury
- 35:19Speaker 14: finding socialite Anasaurici, the so called SOHO grifter, guilty on
- 35:24Speaker 14: eight counts, including grand larceny, attempted grand larceny, and theft
- 35:28Speaker 14: of services. Prosecutors arguing the twenty eight year old stole
- 35:32Speaker 14: a quarter of a million dollars from banks, hotels, and
- 35:35Speaker 14: friends to fund a lavish lifestyle.
- 35:37Speaker 12: The jurors obviously believed our point of view and followed
- 35:41Speaker 12: our logic and acquitted her of the top charges. I'm
- 35:43Speaker 12: sad and that she was.
- 35:44Speaker 13: Convicted of some of the other charges.
- 35:46Speaker 14: Prosecutors say the Russian born Sorkin, who called herself Anna Delvi,
- 35:51Speaker 14: was pretending to be a high flying German heiress living
- 35:54Speaker 14: a life of glamour among Manhattan's elite. Authorities say she
- 35:57Speaker 14: even forged financial documents hoping to get a twenty two
- 36:01Speaker 14: million dollar loan to open a private club in the
- 36:04Speaker 14: Big Apple.
- 36:04Speaker 2: A word of legal advice, I'm solicited. I'll give it
- 36:08Speaker 2: to you for free. Delby, be quiet. Silence is golden.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Keep all those special feelings to yourself and they'll be
- 36:18Speaker 2: even more special.
- 36:21Speaker 3: We wait as just as unfolds, I predict we have not.
- 36:25Speaker 2: Heard the last from Anna Delbi aka Anna Suck
- 36:31Speaker 8: Good By