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Elves vs. Dwarves: Finding the Good in the Unlikely Rivalry · Systematic Geekology

• 1:14
  Would
• 1:14
  you
• 1:14
  rather
• 1:15
  share
• 1:15
  a
• 1:15
  pint
• 1:16
  after
• 1:16
  a
• 1:16
  hard
• 1:16
  day's
• 1:17
  work
• 1:17
  in
• 1:17
  the
• 1:17
  minds
• 1:17
  of
• 1:17
  Moria
• 1:18
  or
• 1:18
  engage
• 1:19
  in
• 1:19
  stimulating
• 1:20
  conversation
• 1:20
  as
• 1:20
  you
• 1:20
  walk
• 1:21
  about
• 1:22
  the
• 1:22
  great
• 1:22
  halls
• 1:23
  of
• 1:23
  Rivendell?
• 1:24
  Well,
• 1:24
  guys,
• 1:24
  this
• 1:24
  is
• 1:25
  part
• 1:25
  of
• 1:25
  our
• 1:25
  flagship
• 1:25
  series
• 1:26
  for
• 1:26
  our
• 1:26
  annual
• 1:26
  theme
• 1:26
  of
• 1:27
  2025.
• 1:27
  Our
• 1:27
  theme
• 1:28
  of
• 1:28
  being
• 1:28
  polarization,
• 1:29
  the
• 1:29
  series
• 1:30
  being
• 1:30
  finding
• 1:31
  the
• 1:31
  good,
• 1:31
  where
• 1:32
  we
• 1:32
  are
• 1:32
  going
• 1:32
  to
• 1:32
  see
• 1:33
  some
• 1:33
  of
• 1:33
  these
• 1:34
  polarizing
• 1:34
  things
• 1:35
  in
• 1:35
  our
• 1:35
  fandoms.
• 1:36
  You
• 1:36
  know,
• 1:36
  we
• 1:36
  had
• 1:36
  science
• 1:36
  and
• 1:37
  Faith.
• 1:37
  We
• 1:37
  had
• 1:37
  Jackie
• 1:38
  Chan
• 1:38
  versus
• 1:38
  Bruce
• 1:38
  Lee,
• 1:39
  and
• 1:39
  today
• 1:39
  we
• 1:40
  have
• 1:40
  elves
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  versus
• 1:41
  dwarves.
• 1:42
  Not
• 1:43
  just
• 1:43
  in
• 1:43
  the
• 1:43
  Lord
• 1:43
  of
• 1:43
  the
• 1:43
  Rings,
• 1:44
  Arda,
• 1:44
  Middle
• 1:44
  Earth,
• 1:45
  whatever.
• 1:45
  We're
• 1:45
  going
• 1:45
  to
• 1:45
  talk
• 1:45
  about
• 1:46
  just
• 1:46
  in
• 1:46
  general,
• 1:46
  because
• 1:47
  it
• 1:47
  shows
• 1:47
  up
• 1:47
  in
• 1:47
  a
• 1:47
  few
• 1:47
  different
• 1:48
  fandoms.
• 1:48
  And
• 1:48
  there's
• 1:48
  some
• 1:49
  interesting
• 1:49
  reasons
• 1:49
  for
• 1:49
  why
• 1:50
  I
• 1:50
  think
• 1:50
  that
• 1:50
  we
• 1:51
  might
• 1:51
  have
• 1:51
  a
• 1:51
  fun
• 1:51
  conversation
• 1:52
  with.
• 1:52
  And
• 1:52
  when
• 1:53
  I
• 1:53
  say
• 1:53
  we,
• 1:53
  I,
• 1:54
  of
• 1:54
  course
• 1:54
  mean
• 1:55
  myself,
• 1:55
  Joshua
• 1:55
  Null,
• 1:56
  not
• 1:56
  of
• 1:56
  Darwin
• 1:57
  folk,
• 1:57
  not
• 1:58
  of
• 1:58
  importance,
• 1:59
  but
• 1:59
  the
• 1:59
  one
• 1:59
  who
• 1:59
  is
• 2:00
  of
• 2:00
  importance,
• 2:00
  the
• 2:01
  great
• 2:02
  wizard
• 2:05
  Nick
• 2:05
  Polk.
• 2:06
  The.
• 2:07
  See,
• 2:07
  I
• 2:07
  want
• 2:08
  to
• 2:08
  say
• 2:08
  Black,
• 2:08
  but,
• 2:08
  like,
• 2:09
  I
• 2:09
  don't
• 2:09
  want
• 2:09
  to,
• 2:09
  like,
• 2:10
  since
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  this
• 2:10
  isn't
• 2:10
  video,
• 2:11
  I
• 2:11
  don't
• 2:11
  want
• 2:11
  to,
• 2:11
  like,
• 2:11
  mislead
• 2:12
  people.
• 2:12
  I'm
• 2:12
  talking
• 2:13
  about
• 2:13
  his
• 2:13
  beard
• 2:13
  specifically,
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  because
• 2:14
  that's
• 2:15
  how
• 2:15
  wizards
• 2:15
  get
• 2:15
  their.
• 2:16
  Oh,
• 2:16
  like
• 2:16
  Nick
• 2:16
  the
• 2:16
  Black.
• 2:17
  Like
• 2:17
  the
• 2:17
  beard.
• 2:17
  Yeah,
• 2:17
  yeah,
• 2:18
  yeah,
• 2:18
  the
• 2:18
  beard,
• 2:19
  specifically.
• 2:20
  Yeah,
• 2:20
  no
• 2:20
  doubt,
• 2:20
  no
• 2:21
  doubt.
• 2:21
  Yeah.
• 2:21
  Also
• 2:22
  of
• 2:22
  Jack
• 2:22
  Black
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  fame.
• 2:23
  That's
• 2:23
  where
• 2:23
  Jack
• 2:24
  Black
• 2:24
  took
• 2:24
  his
• 2:24
  name
• 2:24
  from
• 2:25
  Nick,
• 2:25
  actually.
• 2:26
  Yeah,
• 2:26
  from
• 2:26
  me
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  specifically.
• 2:27
  We
• 2:28
  go
• 2:28
  way
• 2:28
  back,
• 2:28
  me
• 2:28
  and
• 2:28
  Jack
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  Black.
• 2:30
  You
• 2:30
  know,
• 2:31
  you're
• 2:31
  talking
• 2:31
  about.
• 2:31
  You're.
• 2:32
  You
• 2:32
  know,
• 2:32
  you're
• 2:32
  important.
• 2:33
  You're
• 2:33
  just.
• 2:33
  You're
• 2:33
  just
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  embodying
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  the.
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  The.
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  The
• 2:37
  hobbit
• 2:39
  virtue
• 2:39
  of
• 2:39
  humility.
• 2:41
  Well,
• 2:42
  what's
• 2:42
  funny
• 2:42
  is,
• 2:42
  like,
• 2:42
  like,
• 2:43
  I
• 2:43
  play
• 2:43
  off
• 2:43
  like
• 2:44
  the,
• 2:44
  like,
• 2:44
  oh,
• 2:44
  I'm
• 2:45
  humble.
• 2:45
  I'm
• 2:45
  the
• 2:45
  dummy.
• 2:46
  But
• 2:46
  then,
• 2:46
  like,
• 2:46
  if
• 2:47
  y'
• 2:47
  all
• 2:47
  pay
• 2:47
  attention,
• 2:48
  I
• 2:48
  build
• 2:48
  this
• 2:48
  lore
• 2:49
  where
• 2:49
  I'm,
• 2:49
  like,
• 2:49
  we're
• 2:49
  creating
• 2:50
  a
• 2:50
  cult
• 2:50
  around
• 2:50
  Nick
• 2:51
  Polk,
• 2:51
  who's
• 2:51
  also
• 2:52
  great
• 2:52
  friends
• 2:52
  with
• 2:52
  Jack
• 2:52
  Black.
• 2:53
  And
• 2:53
  TJ
• 2:54
  helped
• 2:54
  God
• 2:54
  create
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  universe.
• 2:55
  And
• 2:56
  if
• 2:56
  you
• 2:56
  pay
• 2:56
  attention,
• 2:56
  I'm
• 2:57
  really
• 2:57
  setting
• 2:57
  myself
• 2:58
  up
• 2:58
  where,
• 2:58
  like,
• 2:58
  all
• 2:59
  of
• 2:59
  my
• 2:59
  friends
• 2:59
  are
• 3:00
  like
• 3:00
  gods
• 3:00
  for
• 3:01
  some
• 3:01
  reason,
• 3:02
  so
• 3:02
  that
• 3:02
  naturally,
• 3:02
  you
• 3:03
  guys
• 3:03
  have
• 3:03
  to
• 3:03
  assume
• 3:04
  that
• 3:04
  I
• 3:04
  must
• 3:05
  be,
• 3:05
  like,
• 3:05
  at
• 3:05
  least
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  demigod.
• 3:07
  I
• 3:07
  mean,
• 3:07
  you
• 3:08
  draw
• 3:08
  us
• 3:08
  all
• 3:09
  together.
• 3:09
  So
• 3:09
  who
• 3:10
  has
• 3:10
  the
• 3:10
  real
• 3:10
  power?
• 3:11
  You
• 3:11
  know,
• 3:12
  that
• 3:13
  might
• 3:13
  be
• 3:13
  Trip,
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  great
• 3:14
  podfather,
• 3:15
  but
• 3:16
  true,
• 3:17
  true.
• 3:18
  I
• 3:18
  kind
• 3:18
  of
• 3:18
  wish
• 3:18
  he
• 3:18
  was
• 3:18
  here
• 3:19
  for
• 3:19
  this.
• 3:19
  Should
• 3:19
  we
• 3:19
  stop
• 3:20
  and
• 3:20
  call
• 3:20
  him?
• 3:21
  He
• 3:21
  would
• 3:22
  probably
• 3:22
  jump
• 3:22
  on.
• 3:23
  Dude,
• 3:23
  he
• 3:23
  would
• 3:23
  nerd
• 3:24
  out
• 3:24
  so
• 3:24
  hard.
• 3:25
  Well,
• 3:25
  now
• 3:25
  that
• 3:25
  we're
• 3:26
  already
• 3:26
  off
• 3:26
  the
• 3:26
  rails,
• 3:28
  if
• 3:28
  you
• 3:28
  listeners
• 3:28
  are
• 3:29
  on
• 3:29
  a
• 3:29
  laptop
• 3:29
  and
• 3:29
  you're
• 3:29
  like,
• 3:29
  man,
• 3:30
  I
• 3:30
  want
• 3:30
  to
• 3:30
  rate
• 3:30
  and
• 3:30
  review
• 3:30
  this
• 3:31
  nonsense.
• 3:31
  Go
• 3:31
  over
• 3:32
  to
• 3:32
  Podchaser,
• 3:32
  go
• 3:32
  to
• 3:33
  GoodPods,
• 3:33
  their
• 3:34
  websites.
• 3:34
  It's
• 3:34
  going
• 3:34
  to
• 3:34
  help
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  show
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  lot.
• 3:35
  Specifically
• 3:36
  one
• 3:36
  of
• 3:36
  those
• 3:36
  two.
• 3:36
  It
• 3:36
  helps
• 3:37
  with
• 3:37
  search
• 3:37
  engines
• 3:37
  like
• 3:37
  Google
• 3:38
  because
• 3:38
  it
• 3:38
  likes
• 3:39
  those
• 3:39
  for
• 3:39
  some
• 3:39
  reason.
• 3:40
  But
• 3:40
  if
• 3:40
  you're
• 3:41
  on
• 3:41
  your
• 3:41
  phone,
• 3:41
  good
• 3:42
  news,
• 3:42
  you
• 3:42
  could
• 3:42
  still
• 3:42
  help,
• 3:43
  rate,
• 3:43
  review,
• 3:43
  comment
• 3:44
  on
• 3:44
  Apple
• 3:44
  Podcasts
• 3:45
  or
• 3:45
  Spotify.
• 3:45
  That's
• 3:45
  where
• 3:45
  most
• 3:46
  people
• 3:46
  listen
• 3:46
  to
• 3:46
  podcasts.
• 3:47
  And
• 3:47
  if
• 3:47
  you
• 3:48
  interact
• 3:48
  with
• 3:49
  us
• 3:49
  on
• 3:49
  those
• 3:49
  apps,
• 3:50
  it
• 3:50
  bumps
• 3:50
  us
• 3:51
  up
• 3:51
  in
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  algorithms,
• 3:51
  makes
• 3:52
  other
• 3:52
  people
• 3:52
  think
• 3:52
  we're
• 3:53
  important.
• 3:53
  And
• 3:54
  they'll
• 3:54
  be
• 3:54
  like,
• 3:54
  wow,
• 3:54
  there's
• 3:54
  a
• 3:55
  whole
• 3:55
  pantheon
• 3:55
  here
• 3:55
  of
• 3:56
  podcast
• 3:56
  hosts.
• 3:56
  And
• 3:57
  like,
• 3:57
  yeah,
• 3:57
  yeah,
• 3:57
  yeah,
• 3:57
  you
• 3:58
  never
• 3:58
  knew.
• 3:58
  You
• 3:58
  never
• 3:58
  knew.
• 3:59
  Until
• 4:00
  you
• 4:00
  rate
• 4:00
  and
• 4:01
  review
• 4:01
  other
• 4:01
  people,
• 4:02
  they'll
• 4:02
  never
• 4:02
  know
• 4:02
  the
• 4:02
  greatness
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  Nick
• 4:03
  Polk.
• 4:04
  So
• 4:04
  you
• 4:04
  guys,
• 4:04
  you
• 4:04
  got
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  do
• 4:05
  it
• 4:05
  so
• 4:05
  that
• 4:06
  when
• 4:06
  I
• 4:06
  bring
• 4:06
  Nick
• 4:06
  on,
• 4:06
  I
• 4:06
  talk
• 4:07
  about
• 4:07
  how
• 4:07
  great
• 4:07
  he
• 4:07
  is.
• 4:08
  I'll
• 4:08
  have
• 4:08
  a
• 4:08
  lot
• 4:09
  of
• 4:09
  comments
• 4:09
  about.
• 4:09
  Yeah,
• 4:10
  he's
• 4:10
  totally
• 4:10
  right
• 4:10
  about
• 4:11
  that.
• 4:11
  And
• 4:12
  of
• 4:12
  course,
• 4:12
  you
• 4:12
  can
• 4:12
  also
• 4:12
  sponsor
• 4:13
  our
• 4:13
  show
• 4:13
  on
• 4:13
  Apple
• 4:13
  Podcast
• 4:14
  Captivator
• 4:14
  Patreon.
• 4:15
  Today
• 4:15
  we're
• 4:15
  going
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  shout
• 4:15
  out
• 4:15
  Russell
• 4:16
  Gentry.
• 4:16
  He's
• 4:16
  one
• 4:17
  of
• 4:17
  our
• 4:17
  supporters.
• 4:18
  We
• 4:18
  really
• 4:18
  appreciate
• 4:18
  it.
• 4:19
  And
• 4:19
  if
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  guys
• 4:19
  want
• 4:19
  your
• 4:20
  own
• 4:20
  shout
• 4:20
  out
• 4:20
  again,
• 4:21
  Apple
• 4:21
  podcast
• 4:22
  captivator
• 4:22
  patreon,
• 4:22
  $3
• 4:23
  a
• 4:23
  month
• 4:23
  and
• 4:23
  you
• 4:23
  can
• 4:24
  get
• 4:24
  your
• 4:24
  own
• 4:24
  shout
• 4:24
  out
• 4:24
  at
• 4:24
  the
• 4:25
  beginning
• 4:25
  and
• 4:25
  end
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  episodes.
• 4:26
  But
• 4:27
  what
• 4:27
  I've
• 4:27
  been
• 4:27
  geeking
• 4:28
  out
• 4:28
  on
• 4:28
  recently
• 4:28
  is
• 4:28
  what
• 4:29
  we're
• 4:29
  going
• 4:29
  to
• 4:29
  be
• 4:29
  talking
• 4:29
  about
• 4:29
  next.
• 4:30
  I'm
• 4:31
  going
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  go
• 4:31
  first
• 4:32
  to
• 4:32
  see
• 4:32
  if.
• 4:33
  Because
• 4:33
  I
• 4:33
  already
• 4:33
  told
• 4:34
  Nick
• 4:34
  about
• 4:34
  some
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  this,
• 4:36
  I'm
• 4:37
  going
• 4:37
  to
• 4:37
  let
• 4:37
  our
• 4:37
  listeners
• 4:37
  know.
• 4:38
  And
• 4:38
  because
• 4:38
  I'm
• 4:38
  being
• 4:39
  sporadic,
• 4:39
  so
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  need
• 4:39
  to
• 4:40
  give
• 4:40
  Nick
• 4:40
  time
• 4:40
  to
• 4:41
  catch
• 4:41
  up
• 4:41
  with
• 4:41
  my
• 4:41
  sporadic
• 4:42
  ness
• 4:45
  during
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  May
• 4:45
  the
• 4:46
  fourth
• 4:46
  weekend.
• 4:46
  For
• 4:47
  whatever
• 4:47
  reason,
• 4:48
  Steam
• 4:49
  naturally
• 4:49
  had
• 4:49
  a
• 4:50
  May
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  fourth
• 4:50
  sale,
• 4:51
  which
• 4:51
  was
• 4:51
  cool.
• 4:52
  So
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  got
• 4:52
  like
• 4:53
  Fall
• 4:53
  of
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  Jedi
• 4:54
  or
• 4:54
  Jedi
• 4:55
  Survival,
• 4:55
  both
• 4:55
  of
• 4:55
  those
• 4:56
  games.
• 4:57
  Then
• 4:58
  Middle
• 4:58
  Earth
• 4:58
  was
• 4:59
  like,
• 5:00
  we
• 5:00
  need
• 5:00
  to
• 5:00
  compete
• 5:01
  for
• 5:01
  some
• 5:01
  reason.
• 5:01
  So
• 5:01
  then
• 5:01
  there
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  Spring
• 5:02
  in
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  Shire
• 5:03
  sale
• 5:03
  and
• 5:04
  I
• 5:04
  got
• 5:04
  both
• 5:05
  Shadow
• 5:05
  of
• 5:06
  War
• 5:06
  and
• 5:06
  Shadow
• 5:06
  of
• 5:06
  Mordor.
• 5:07
  And
• 5:07
  then
• 5:07
  on
• 5:08
  top
• 5:08
  of
• 5:08
  all
• 5:08
  that,
• 5:08
  I
• 5:08
  got
• 5:08
  Battlefront
• 5:09
  2.
• 5:09
  Start,
• 5:09
  like
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  old
• 5:10
  original
• 5:10
  Battlefront
• 5:11
  2.
• 5:11
  And
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  got
• 5:11
  it
• 5:11
  all
• 5:12
  for
• 5:12
  like
• 5:12
  $25
• 5:13
  on
• 5:13
  sale,
• 5:13
  like,
• 5:14
  together.
• 5:14
  And
• 5:14
  I'm
• 5:15
  like,
• 5:15
  man,
• 5:15
  each
• 5:16
  of
• 5:16
  these
• 5:16
  usually
• 5:16
  are
• 5:17
  like
• 5:17
  60
• 5:17
  bucks.
• 5:18
  This
• 5:18
  was
• 5:18
  a
• 5:18
  great
• 5:19
  day.
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  haven't
• 5:20
  played
• 5:20
  all
• 5:20
  of
• 5:20
  them
• 5:20
  yet,
• 5:21
  but
• 5:21
  I'm
• 5:21
  geeking
• 5:22
  out
• 5:22
  on
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  fact
• 5:22
  that
• 5:22
  finals
• 5:23
  are
• 5:23
  over.
• 5:23
  I
• 5:24
  have
• 5:24
  all
• 5:24
  these
• 5:24
  games
• 5:24
  thanks
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  sales,
• 5:25
  and
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  have
• 5:26
  something
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  go
• 5:27
  do.
• 5:28
  But
• 5:28
  yeah,
• 5:28
  Nick,
• 5:29
  what
• 5:29
  about
• 5:29
  you?
• 5:30
  Yeah,
• 5:30
  you
• 5:30
  got
• 5:30
  Two
• 5:30
  of
• 5:30
  the
• 5:31
  heaviest
• 5:31
  hitters
• 5:31
  there,
• 5:32
  man.
• 5:32
  Star
• 5:32
  wars
• 5:32
  and
• 5:33
  Lord
• 5:33
  of
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  rings
• 5:34
  for
• 5:34
  freaking
• 5:35
  25
• 5:35
  bucks.
• 5:36
  Kind
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  crazy.
• 5:37
  Yeah.
• 5:37
  And
• 5:37
  it's
• 5:37
  stuff
• 5:38
  that
• 5:38
  I
• 5:38
  haven't
• 5:38
  even
• 5:38
  played
• 5:38
  yet
• 5:38
  because
• 5:39
  my
• 5:39
  PS,
• 5:40
  I've
• 5:40
  never
• 5:40
  got
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  PS5.
• 5:41
  And
• 5:41
  my
• 5:41
  PS4
• 5:42
  got
• 5:42
  to
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  point
• 5:42
  where
• 5:42
  it
• 5:42
  was
• 5:42
  so
• 5:43
  loud
• 5:43
  it
• 5:44
  was
• 5:44
  unbearable
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  play
• 5:45
  games
• 5:45
  anymore.
• 5:46
  So
• 5:46
  now
• 5:46
  I
• 5:47
  got
• 5:47
  a
• 5:47
  steam
• 5:47
  room
• 5:47
  catching
• 5:48
  up.
• 5:48
  Yeah,
• 5:49
  my
• 5:49
  wife
• 5:50
  this
• 5:50
  year,
• 5:51
  she
• 5:51
  bought
• 5:51
  me
• 5:51
  an
• 5:51
  Xbox,
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  new
• 5:52
  latest
• 5:53
  Xbox,
• 5:53
  because
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  had
• 5:54
  an
• 5:54
  Xbox
• 5:54
  One
• 5:55
  like
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  original
• 5:55
  VCR1,
• 5:57
  and
• 5:57
  it
• 5:57
  just
• 5:57
  wasn't
• 5:57
  cutting
• 5:58
  it
• 5:58
  anymore.
• 6:00
  Not
• 6:00
  nice,
• 6:00
  but.
• 6:01
  Yeah,
• 6:01
  but
• 6:01
  what
• 6:02
  I've
• 6:02
  been
• 6:02
  nerding
• 6:02
  out
• 6:02
  on
• 6:03
  a
• 6:03
  couple
• 6:03
  things.
• 6:04
  One
• 6:04
  was
• 6:04
  that
• 6:05
  it
• 6:05
  was
• 6:05
  recently
• 6:05
  free
• 6:06
  comic
• 6:06
  book
• 6:06
  day.
• 6:07
  I've
• 6:07
  never
• 6:07
  been,
• 6:08
  but
• 6:08
  I'm
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  big
• 6:08
  Diablo
• 6:09
  fan,
• 6:09
  and
• 6:10
  Diablo
• 6:11
  4
• 6:12
  is
• 6:12
  doing
• 6:12
  like
• 6:12
  a
• 6:13
  comic
• 6:13
  series.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:14
  so
• 6:14
  they
• 6:14
  had
• 6:14
  a
• 6:15
  free
• 6:15
  comic
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  announce
• 6:16
  their
• 6:16
  upcoming
• 6:17
  run
• 6:17
  that
• 6:17
  they're
• 6:17
  doing.
• 6:20
  That's
• 6:20
  kind
• 6:20
  of
• 6:20
  happening
• 6:21
  after
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  events
• 6:22
  of
• 6:22
  the
• 6:23
  latest
• 6:25
  DLC
• 6:25
  in
• 6:26
  Diablo.
• 6:26
  And
• 6:27
  then
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  watched
• 6:28
  Gilmore
• 6:29
  Girls
• 6:29
  for
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  first
• 6:29
  time
• 6:30
  all
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  way
• 6:30
  through,
• 6:31
  so
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  got
• 6:31
  super
• 6:31
  nerdy.
• 6:32
  We
• 6:32
  got
• 6:33
  an
• 6:33
  episode
• 6:33
  on
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  soon
• 6:34
  too,
• 6:35
  so.
• 6:35
  Good.
• 6:35
  I.
• 6:35
  I
• 6:36
  wrote
• 6:36
  a
• 6:36
  post
• 6:36
  about
• 6:36
  it
• 6:37
  on
• 6:37
  Tolkien
• 6:37
  Pop,
• 6:38
  you
• 6:38
  know,
• 6:39
  so
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  got.
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  got
• 6:39
  extra
• 6:40
  nerdy
• 6:40
  with
• 6:40
  it
• 6:40
  as
• 6:40
  well
• 6:41
  because
• 6:41
  they.
• 6:42
  Surprisingly.
• 6:43
  Lots
• 6:43
  of
• 6:44
  Lord
• 6:44
  of
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  Rings
• 6:44
  references
• 6:45
  in
• 6:45
  Gilmore
• 6:46
  Girls.
• 6:46
  Yeah,
• 6:47
  there's
• 6:47
  lots
• 6:47
  of
• 6:47
  everything
• 6:48
  references
• 6:48
  in
• 6:48
  Gilmore
• 6:49
  Girls.
• 6:49
  There's
• 6:50
  so
• 6:50
  many.
• 6:51
  It's
• 6:51
  just
• 6:51
  like
• 6:51
  a
• 6:52
  flagpole
• 6:53
  or
• 6:53
  flagship
• 6:54
  for.
• 6:56
  Yeah.
• 6:56
  In
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  fall
• 6:56
  last
• 6:57
  year,
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  learned
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  term,
• 6:58
  like,
• 6:58
  thawing.
• 6:59
  So
• 6:59
  it's
• 6:59
  like
• 6:59
  Noah
• 7:00
  Khan
• 7:00
  is
• 7:00
  thawing
• 7:01
  right
• 7:01
  now.
• 7:01
  And
• 7:02
  like,
• 7:02
  guess
• 7:02
  Gilmore
• 7:03
  Girls
• 7:03
  every
• 7:03
  fall,
• 7:04
  like,
• 7:04
  like
• 7:04
  they're
• 7:04
  thawing
• 7:05
  and
• 7:05
  you're
• 7:05
  like,
• 7:05
  oh,
• 7:05
  yeah,
• 7:06
  now
• 7:06
  it's
• 7:06
  time
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  get
• 7:06
  into
• 7:07
  it.
• 7:07
  So
• 7:07
  maybe
• 7:07
  in
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  fall
• 7:07
  we'll
• 7:08
  do
• 7:08
  like
• 7:08
  a.
• 7:08
  We'll
• 7:08
  do
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  big
• 7:09
  episode
• 7:09
  and
• 7:10
  geek
• 7:10
  out.
• 7:11
  Two
• 7:11
  bearded
• 7:11
  men
• 7:12
  talking
• 7:12
  about
• 7:12
  Gilmore
• 7:12
  Girls.
• 7:13
  That'd
• 7:13
  be
• 7:13
  great.
• 7:15
  More
• 7:15
  bearded
• 7:16
  men
• 7:16
  need
• 7:16
  to
• 7:16
  talk
• 7:16
  about
• 7:17
  Gilmore
• 7:17
  Girls.
• 7:18
  Yeah.
• 7:18
  Because,
• 7:18
  I
• 7:18
  mean,
• 7:19
  let's
• 7:19
  be
• 7:19
  honest,
• 7:20
  Luke
• 7:20
  is
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  most
• 7:21
  goat
• 7:22
  just
• 7:22
  maybe
• 7:22
  ever.
• 7:24
  Yes,
• 7:24
  100%.
• 7:25
  Could
• 7:25
  not
• 7:25
  agree
• 7:25
  more,
• 7:26
  man.
• 7:27
  So
• 7:28
  with
• 7:28
  all
• 7:28
  this
• 7:28
  out
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  way,
• 7:29
  we
• 7:29
  got
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  get
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  the
• 7:30
  main
• 7:30
  topic.
• 7:31
  Well,
• 7:31
  let
• 7:32
  me
• 7:32
  say,
• 7:32
  if
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  guys
• 7:32
  want
• 7:32
  more
• 7:32
  of
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  Finding
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  Good
• 7:33
  series,
• 7:34
  we're
• 7:34
  doing
• 7:34
  this,
• 7:34
  like,
• 7:35
  picking
• 7:35
  sides
• 7:36
  and
• 7:36
  then
• 7:36
  finding
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  good
• 7:36
  in
• 7:36
  the
• 7:37
  other
• 7:37
  side.
• 7:37
  There's
• 7:38
  a
• 7:38
  link
• 7:38
  down
• 7:38
  below
• 7:38
  in
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  show
• 7:39
  notes
• 7:39
  for
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  entire
• 7:40
  series.
• 7:40
  Check
• 7:40
  that
• 7:41
  out.
• 7:41
  But
• 7:42
  for
• 7:43
  now,
• 7:46
  today's
• 7:46
  topic
• 7:47
  is
• 7:47
  Elves
• 7:47
  versus
• 7:47
  Dwarves.
• 7:48
  And
• 7:48
  it's
• 7:49
  going
• 7:49
  to
• 7:49
  be
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  fun
• 7:49
  one
• 7:50
  because
• 7:50
  I
• 7:50
  learned
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  little
• 7:51
  bit
• 7:51
  doing
• 7:51
  some
• 7:52
  research
• 7:52
  for
• 7:52
  this
• 7:52
  I'm
• 7:52
  like,
• 7:52
  oh,
• 7:53
  this
• 7:53
  is
• 7:53
  some
• 7:53
  interesting
• 7:54
  history.
• 7:55
  Elves
• 7:56
  and
• 7:56
  Dwarves
• 7:56
  have
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  long
• 7:57
  history
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  rivalry
• 7:58
  and
• 7:59
  other
• 7:59
  things
• 7:59
  that
• 8:00
  we're
• 8:00
  going
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  discuss
• 8:00
  in
• 8:01
  several
• 8:01
  different
• 8:01
  IPs
• 8:01
  though,
• 8:02
  like
• 8:02
  it's
• 8:02
  not
• 8:02
  just
• 8:02
  like
• 8:03
  Lord
• 8:03
  of
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  Rings
• 8:04
  inheritance
• 8:05
  cycle.
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  think
• 8:05
  we've
• 8:05
  already
• 8:06
  mentioned
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  one
• 8:07
  or
• 8:07
  you
• 8:07
  mentioned
• 8:07
  it
• 8:07
  before.
• 8:08
  Zero
• 8:08
  something.
• 8:08
  It's
• 8:09
  got
• 8:09
  it.
• 8:09
  You
• 8:10
  see
• 8:10
  it
• 8:10
  in
• 8:10
  Dungeons
• 8:11
  and
• 8:11
  Dragons,
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  see
• 8:12
  it
• 8:12
  in
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  few
• 8:12
  different
• 8:12
  places
• 8:13
  we're
• 8:13
  going
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  talk
• 8:13
  about.
• 8:15
  Mainly
• 8:15
  I'm
• 8:15
  probably
• 8:15
  going
• 8:16
  to
• 8:16
  pull
• 8:16
  from
• 8:16
  Lord
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  Rings.
• 8:17
  The
• 8:17
  inheritance
• 8:18
  cycle
• 8:19
  and
• 8:19
  Elder
• 8:19
  Scrolls
• 8:20
  will
• 8:20
  probably
• 8:20
  be
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  main
• 8:21
  ones
• 8:21
  that
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  pull
• 8:21
  from,
• 8:22
  just
• 8:23
  because
• 8:23
  that's
• 8:23
  what
• 8:23
  I'm
• 8:23
  most
• 8:23
  familiar
• 8:24
  with.
• 8:25
  But
• 8:25
  Nick
• 8:26
  might
• 8:26
  have
• 8:26
  some
• 8:26
  other
• 8:26
  interesting
• 8:27
  ones
• 8:27
  before
• 8:28
  we
• 8:28
  get
• 8:28
  into
• 8:28
  anything
• 8:28
  else.
• 8:29
  What
• 8:29
  are
• 8:30
  some
• 8:30
  of
• 8:30
  the
• 8:30
  ones
• 8:30
  that
• 8:30
  you're
• 8:30
  most
• 8:30
  aware
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  and
• 8:32
  where
• 8:32
  do
• 8:32
  you
• 8:33
  think
• 8:33
  this
• 8:33
  conflict
• 8:33
  has
• 8:34
  started?
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  actually
• 8:34
  developed
• 8:35
  a
• 8:35
  theory
• 8:35
  through
• 8:35
  research,
• 8:36
  but
• 8:36
  I
• 8:37
  want
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  hear
• 8:37
  from
• 8:37
  you
• 8:37
  first
• 8:37
  because
• 8:38
  you're
• 8:38
  smarter
• 8:38
  than
• 8:38
  me
• 8:38
  and
• 8:39
  have
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  better
• 8:39
  beard.
• 8:40
  Well,
• 8:41
  like
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  said,
• 8:42
  I'm
• 8:42
  kind
• 8:42
  of
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  one
• 8:43
  trick
• 8:43
  pony
• 8:43
  where
• 8:44
  Tolkien's
• 8:45
  legendarium
• 8:45
  is
• 8:46
  kind
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  my
• 8:47
  main
• 8:47
  thing.
• 8:48
  And
• 8:48
  so
• 8:49
  I'm
• 8:49
  not
• 8:49
  really
• 8:50
  as
• 8:50
  familiar
• 8:51
  with
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  lot
• 8:51
  of
• 8:51
  the
• 8:52
  like,
• 8:52
  expansive
• 8:53
  universes.
• 8:53
  You
• 8:54
  know,
• 8:54
  there's
• 8:54
  a
• 8:54
  couple
• 8:54
  other
• 8:55
  ones
• 8:55
  like
• 8:55
  Avatar,
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  Last
• 8:56
  Airbender
• 8:57
  that
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  am.
• 8:57
  There's
• 8:58
  no
• 8:58
  dwarves
• 8:58
  in
• 8:58
  that.
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  don't
• 9:00
  know
• 9:00
  if
• 9:00
  it's
• 9:00
  a
• 9:01
  real
• 9:01
  conflict,
• 9:02
  but
• 9:02
  I
• 9:02
  know
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  Witcher
• 9:03
  series,
• 9:04
  there's
• 9:04
  like.
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  think
• 9:06
  it's
• 9:06
  more
• 9:06
  of
• 9:07
  just
• 9:08
  a
• 9:09
  like
• 9:09
  ecological
• 9:10
  reality
• 9:11
  where
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  think
• 9:12
  dwarves
• 9:12
  were
• 9:13
  old
• 9:13
  and
• 9:14
  they
• 9:14
  don't
• 9:15
  reproduce
• 9:16
  as
• 9:16
  fast.
• 9:17
  The
• 9:17
  elves
• 9:17
  and
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  Witcher,
• 9:18
  you
• 9:19
  know,
• 9:19
  series
• 9:20
  are
• 9:20
  just
• 9:20
  faster
• 9:21
  at
• 9:21
  producing.
• 9:21
  And
• 9:22
  then
• 9:22
  of
• 9:22
  course,
• 9:22
  humans
• 9:23
  reproduce
• 9:23
  way
• 9:23
  faster
• 9:24
  than
• 9:24
  both
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  them.
• 9:25
  And
• 9:25
  therefore
• 9:25
  elves
• 9:26
  are
• 9:26
  like
• 9:26
  on
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  decline.
• 9:27
  Dwarves
• 9:28
  are
• 9:28
  even
• 9:28
  like
• 9:28
  scarcer.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  know
• 9:30
  that
• 9:30
  because
• 9:30
  of
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  elves
• 9:31
  reproduction
• 9:32
  rates,
• 9:32
  they
• 9:33
  kind
• 9:33
  of
• 9:33
  like
• 9:33
  push
• 9:33
  Dwarves
• 9:34
  out,
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  think
• 9:35
  in
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  history
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  Witcher.
• 9:37
  But
• 9:37
  besides
• 9:38
  that
• 9:38
  and
• 9:38
  Tolkien,
• 9:40
  that's
• 9:40
  kind
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  all
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  got
• 9:41
  for
• 9:42
  elves
• 9:43
  and
• 9:43
  dwarves,
• 9:43
  except
• 9:44
  for
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  conflict
• 9:45
  I
• 9:45
  think
• 9:45
  probably
• 9:47
  comes
• 9:47
  up.
• 9:48
  It
• 9:48
  probably
• 9:48
  has
• 9:48
  its
• 9:49
  roots
• 9:49
  in
• 9:49
  Norse
• 9:50
  mythology,
• 9:51
  the
• 9:52
  Poetic
• 9:52
  Edda
• 9:53
  and
• 9:53
  Prose
• 9:53
  Edda.
• 9:53
  Right?
• 9:54
  Yeah.
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  want
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  throw
• 9:56
  my
• 9:56
  theory
• 9:56
  by
• 9:56
  you
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  see
• 9:57
  if
• 9:57
  you
• 9:57
  think
• 9:57
  I'm
• 9:58
  right
• 9:58
  or
• 9:58
  if
• 9:58
  I'm
• 9:58
  stupid.
• 9:59
  Also,
• 10:00
  side
• 10:00
  note,
• 10:01
  I
• 10:01
  just
• 10:01
  remembered
• 10:01
  another
• 10:01
  one
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  can
• 10:02
  put
• 10:02
  out
• 10:02
  there
• 10:03
  and
• 10:03
  delicious.
• 10:03
  In
• 10:04
  Dungeon,
• 10:04
  you
• 10:04
  see
• 10:04
  it
• 10:04
  again
• 10:04
  where
• 10:05
  one
• 10:05
  of
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  characters
• 10:06
  is
• 10:06
  a
• 10:06
  dwarf
• 10:06
  and
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  have
• 10:07
  an
• 10:07
  elf
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  they
• 10:08
  kind
• 10:08
  of
• 10:08
  talk
• 10:08
  a
• 10:09
  little
• 10:09
  bit
• 10:09
  about
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  rivalry.
• 10:09
  It's
• 10:10
  not
• 10:10
  like
• 10:10
  main
• 10:10
  Headlight,
• 10:11
  but
• 10:11
  like
• 10:12
  it's
• 10:12
  common
• 10:12
  enough
• 10:13
  knowledge
• 10:13
  that
• 10:13
  even
• 10:13
  in,
• 10:14
  like,
• 10:14
  anime
• 10:14
  version
• 10:15
  of
• 10:15
  fantasy,
• 10:15
  it's
• 10:15
  still
• 10:16
  something
• 10:16
  that's
• 10:16
  present
• 10:16
  that
• 10:17
  elves
• 10:17
  and
• 10:17
  dwarves
• 10:18
  don't
• 10:18
  always,
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:19
  love
• 10:19
  each
• 10:19
  other
• 10:19
  that
• 10:19
  much.
• 10:20
  Right.
• 10:21
  Which
• 10:22
  for
• 10:22
  some
• 10:22
  reason
• 10:23
  always
• 10:23
  ends,
• 10:23
  we'll
• 10:24
  get
• 10:24
  to
• 10:24
  this
• 10:24
  later.
• 10:24
  But
• 10:24
  it
• 10:24
  always
• 10:25
  ends
• 10:25
  up
• 10:25
  with
• 10:25
  like
• 10:25
  a
• 10:25
  fun
• 10:26
  elf
• 10:26
  and
• 10:26
  dwarf
• 10:27
  being
• 10:27
  friends
• 10:27
  because
• 10:27
  they're
• 10:28
  not
• 10:28
  supposed
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  like
• 10:28
  each
• 10:29
  other.
• 10:29
  Like,
• 10:29
  I
• 10:29
  don't
• 10:29
  know,
• 10:29
  like,
• 10:30
  it
• 10:30
  happens
• 10:30
  always.
• 10:30
  It's
• 10:31
  like
• 10:31
  we
• 10:31
  only
• 10:31
  establish
• 10:32
  this
• 10:32
  conflict
• 10:33
  so
• 10:33
  that
• 10:33
  we
• 10:33
  can
• 10:33
  have
• 10:33
  an
• 10:33
  entertaining
• 10:34
  buddy
• 10:34
  sequence.
• 10:36
  Like,
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  don't
• 10:36
  know,
• 10:36
  man.
• 10:37
  I
• 10:37
  just
• 10:37
  love
• 10:38
  that.
• 10:38
  That's
• 10:38
  like
• 10:39
  racial
• 10:40
  reconciliation
• 10:40
  and
• 10:41
  fantasy
• 10:41
  is
• 10:42
  always
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  elf
• 10:43
  in
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  dwarf.
• 10:44
  Yeah.
• 10:45
  It's
• 10:45
  beautiful.
• 10:45
  It's
• 10:46
  great.
• 10:46
  Okay,
• 10:47
  my
• 10:47
  theory
• 10:48
  from
• 10:48
  Mind
• 10:49
  you,
• 10:49
  like,
• 10:50
  maybe
• 10:50
  five
• 10:50
  minutes
• 10:51
  of
• 10:51
  Google
• 10:51
  research.
• 10:52
  So
• 10:52
  this,
• 10:52
  this
• 10:52
  is
• 10:52
  not
• 10:53
  like
• 10:53
  deep
• 10:54
  knowledge
• 10:54
  or
• 10:54
  anything,
• 10:55
  guys.
• 10:56
  It
• 10:56
  looks
• 10:57
  like
• 10:57
  in
• 10:57
  Norse
• 10:57
  mythology,
• 10:58
  because,
• 10:58
  like,
• 10:58
  I
• 10:58
  know
• 10:59
  that
• 10:59
  Tolkien
• 10:59
  pulled
• 10:59
  a
• 11:00
  lot
• 11:00
  from
• 11:00
  Norse
• 11:00
  mythology.
• 11:02
  There's
• 11:02
  this
• 11:02
  really
• 11:02
  weird
• 11:03
  thing
• 11:03
  where
• 11:03
  all
• 11:04
  dwarves
• 11:04
  really
• 11:05
  were.
• 11:05
  Where
• 11:06
  just
• 11:06
  like
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  had
• 11:06
  like
• 11:07
  tree
• 11:07
  elves
• 11:08
  and,
• 11:08
  you
• 11:08
  know,
• 11:08
  irregular
• 11:09
  elves
• 11:09
  and
• 11:09
  dark
• 11:10
  elves.
• 11:10
  They
• 11:10
  were
• 11:11
  like,
• 11:11
  associated
• 11:11
  with
• 11:12
  dark
• 11:12
  elves,
• 11:12
  but
• 11:12
  they
• 11:12
  were
• 11:12
  like
• 11:12
  the
• 11:13
  elves
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  the
• 11:13
  earth,
• 11:13
  like
• 11:14
  under
• 11:14
  earth.
• 11:15
  That's
• 11:15
  what
• 11:16
  elves
• 11:16
  were.
• 11:16
  They
• 11:16
  were
• 11:17
  just
• 11:17
  dwarves.
• 11:17
  So
• 11:18
  it
• 11:18
  wasn't
• 11:18
  like
• 11:18
  they
• 11:18
  weren't
• 11:19
  depicted
• 11:19
  as
• 11:19
  short,
• 11:19
  little
• 11:20
  grubby
• 11:20
  men.
• 11:20
  They
• 11:20
  were
• 11:20
  just
• 11:21
  like
• 11:21
  elves,
• 11:21
  but
• 11:22
  underground.
• 11:22
  And
• 11:22
  they
• 11:22
  were
• 11:23
  associated
• 11:23
  with
• 11:23
  dark
• 11:23
  elves.
• 11:24
  So
• 11:24
  they
• 11:24
  were
• 11:24
  like.
• 11:24
  Because
• 11:25
  it's
• 11:25
  like
• 11:25
  under
• 11:25
  earth,
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  underworld
• 11:27
  kind
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  association,
• 11:28
  you
• 11:28
  know,
• 11:29
  back
• 11:29
  when
• 11:29
  we
• 11:29
  thought
• 11:29
  heaven
• 11:30
  was
• 11:30
  up
• 11:30
  above
• 11:30
  and
• 11:30
  hell
• 11:31
  was
• 11:31
  down
• 11:31
  below,
• 11:31
  they're
• 11:32
  down
• 11:32
  below,
• 11:32
  so
• 11:32
  these
• 11:32
  must
• 11:33
  be
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  bad
• 11:33
  guys.
• 11:34
  And
• 11:35
  to
• 11:35
  kind
• 11:35
  of
• 11:35
  see
• 11:35
  that
• 11:35
  evolve.
• 11:36
  And
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  think
• 11:37
  if
• 11:37
  I'm
• 11:37
  right
• 11:38
  about
• 11:38
  this
• 11:38
  is
• 11:38
  where
• 11:38
  Tolkien's
• 11:39
  pulling
• 11:39
  from,
• 11:39
  what
• 11:40
  Tolkien
• 11:40
  does,
• 11:41
  making
• 11:41
  the
• 11:42
  dwarves
• 11:42
  not
• 11:43
  just
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  little
• 11:43
  bad
• 11:44
  guys
• 11:44
  because
• 11:44
  they're
• 11:44
  under
• 11:44
  the
• 11:45
  ground
• 11:45
  actually
• 11:46
  is
• 11:46
  super
• 11:46
  cool
• 11:47
  when
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  think
• 11:47
  about
• 11:47
  it.
• 11:48
  Oh,
• 11:48
  it's
• 11:48
  great.
• 11:48
  You
• 11:49
  know,
• 11:49
  and
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  think
• 11:49
  people
• 11:50
  don't
• 11:50
  know
• 11:50
  and
• 11:51
  like,
• 11:52
  a
• 11:52
  lot
• 11:52
  of
• 11:52
  that
• 11:53
  underground
• 11:53
  elves,
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  distinction,
• 11:56
  you
• 11:56
  know,
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  don't
• 11:56
  think
• 11:56
  was
• 11:57
  so
• 11:57
  hard
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  fast.
• 11:58
  Like,
• 11:58
  there's
• 11:58
  leprechauns
• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  brownies,
• 12:00
  you
• 12:01
  know,
• 12:01
  dwarves,
• 12:02
  elves
• 12:02
  were
• 12:03
  kind
• 12:03
  of
• 12:03
  in
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  same
• 12:03
  category
• 12:04
  of
• 12:04
  like
• 12:04
  weird
• 12:05
  kind
• 12:05
  of
• 12:05
  evil
• 12:06
  spirits
• 12:06
  at
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  most
• 12:07
  and
• 12:08
  tricksters
• 12:08
  at
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  least.
• 12:10
  Like
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  said
• 12:10
  over
• 12:10
  time
• 12:11
  with
• 12:11
  like
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  invention
• 12:12
  of
• 12:12
  like
• 12:12
  the
• 12:13
  Shakespearean
• 12:14
  or
• 12:14
  like
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  Victorian
• 12:15
  era,
• 12:15
  fairies
• 12:16
  who
• 12:16
  are
• 12:16
  like,
• 12:17
  you
• 12:17
  know,
• 12:17
  kind
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  trickster,
• 12:18
  positive
• 12:19
  nature
• 12:19
  spirits.
• 12:20
  Tolkien
• 12:21
  kind
• 12:21
  of
• 12:22
  took
• 12:23
  those
• 12:23
  elements
• 12:23
  and
• 12:24
  transformed
• 12:24
  them.
• 12:25
  And
• 12:25
  then,
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  course,
• 12:26
  modern
• 12:26
  fantasy
• 12:27
  has
• 12:28
  done
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  rest.
• 12:28
  Oh,
• 12:28
  and
• 12:28
  goblins,
• 12:29
  goblins
• 12:29
  were
• 12:29
  also
• 12:30
  kind
• 12:30
  of
• 12:30
  in
• 12:30
  the
• 12:31
  same
• 12:31
  category
• 12:31
  as
• 12:31
  dwarves,
• 12:32
  elves
• 12:32
  and
• 12:33
  leprechauns
• 12:34
  and
• 12:34
  stuff
• 12:34
  until
• 12:35
  Way
• 12:35
  later.
• 12:35
  Yeah.
• 12:36
  Yeah.
• 12:36
  I
• 12:37
  was
• 12:37
  trying
• 12:37
  to
• 12:37
  think.
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  don't
• 12:37
  think
• 12:37
  there
• 12:38
  are
• 12:38
  any
• 12:38
  dwarves
• 12:39
  in
• 12:39
  Beowulf,
• 12:39
  but
• 12:40
  there's
• 12:40
  some,
• 12:40
  like,
• 12:40
  similar
• 12:41
  stuff,
• 12:41
  like
• 12:41
  what
• 12:41
  you're
• 12:42
  talking
• 12:42
  about.
• 12:42
  And
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  know
• 12:42
  Tolkien
• 12:43
  pulled
• 12:43
  a
• 12:43
  lot
• 12:43
  from
• 12:43
  Beowulf,
• 12:43
  too,
• 12:44
  so.
• 12:44
  Oh,
• 12:44
  yeah.
• 12:45
  Usually
• 12:45
  hugely.
• 12:46
  Yeah.
• 12:47
  So.
• 12:48
  So
• 12:49
  it
• 12:49
  sounds
• 12:49
  like
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  might
• 12:49
  not
• 12:49
  be
• 12:50
  totally
• 12:50
  off
• 12:50
  base.
• 12:51
  So
• 12:51
  what
• 12:52
  I'm
• 12:52
  picking
• 12:52
  at
• 12:52
  that
• 12:52
  I
• 12:52
  think
• 12:53
  is
• 12:53
  interesting,
• 12:53
  that
• 12:54
  I
• 12:54
  want
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  hear,
• 12:54
  like,
• 12:54
  Nick's
• 12:55
  wisdom
• 12:55
  about
• 12:56
  one
• 12:57
  of
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  things.
• 12:57
  And
• 12:57
  this
• 12:57
  is
• 12:57
  where,
• 12:58
  like,
• 12:58
  again,
• 12:59
  I
• 13:00
  don't
• 13:00
  know
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  lot
• 13:00
  about
• 13:00
  Tolkien,
• 13:01
  so
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  can
• 13:01
  just
• 13:01
  say
• 13:01
  whatever
• 13:02
  and
• 13:02
  then
• 13:02
  have
• 13:02
  Nick
• 13:03
  correct
• 13:03
  me
• 13:03
  afterwards.
• 13:04
  And
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  love
• 13:04
  this.
• 13:05
  Some
• 13:05
  of
• 13:05
  my
• 13:06
  understanding
• 13:06
  is,
• 13:06
  like,
• 13:06
  Tolkien,
• 13:07
  one
• 13:07
  of
• 13:07
  his
• 13:07
  problems
• 13:07
  with
• 13:07
  his
• 13:08
  own
• 13:08
  work
• 13:08
  was
• 13:09
  kind
• 13:09
  of
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  do
• 13:10
  with,
• 13:10
  like,
• 13:10
  some
• 13:10
  of
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  ogres
• 13:11
  or
• 13:11
  the
• 13:12
  goblins
• 13:13
  kind
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  stuff,
• 13:13
  because
• 13:13
  it's
• 13:13
  like
• 13:14
  he
• 13:14
  had
• 13:14
  this
• 13:16
  theology
• 13:16
  as
• 13:17
  a
• 13:17
  Catholic
• 13:17
  that
• 13:17
  every
• 13:18
  thing
• 13:18
  was
• 13:18
  created
• 13:19
  good.
• 13:20
  So
• 13:20
  what
• 13:20
  was
• 13:20
  interesting
• 13:21
  to
• 13:21
  me
• 13:21
  is
• 13:22
  what
• 13:22
  you
• 13:22
  see
• 13:22
  is,
• 13:22
  like,
• 13:22
  usually
• 13:23
  dwarves
• 13:24
  in
• 13:24
  Norse
• 13:25
  mythology,
• 13:25
  they
• 13:25
  were
• 13:25
  kind
• 13:26
  of
• 13:26
  bad
• 13:26
  because
• 13:26
  they
• 13:26
  were
• 13:27
  underworld
• 13:27
  or
• 13:28
  tricksters,
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  know,
• 13:28
  something.
• 13:29
  But
• 13:29
  they
• 13:29
  were
• 13:29
  associated
• 13:30
  with
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  dark
• 13:30
  elves.
• 13:31
  And
• 13:31
  here
• 13:31
  he
• 13:32
  has
• 13:32
  where.
• 13:33
  So
• 13:34
  ERU
• 13:34
  iluvatar,
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  main
• 13:35
  God,
• 13:36
  creates
• 13:37
  elves
• 13:37
  and
• 13:38
  humans
• 13:38
  directly.
• 13:39
  Dwarves
• 13:39
  are
• 13:40
  still
• 13:40
  under
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  ground.
• 13:40
  They're
• 13:41
  not
• 13:41
  created
• 13:41
  directly
• 13:42
  from
• 13:42
  ERU
• 13:42
  Iluvatar,
• 13:43
  they're
• 13:43
  created
• 13:43
  from
• 13:44
  Aule
• 13:45
  because
• 13:46
  shenanigans,
• 13:47
  then
• 13:49
  they're
• 13:49
  given
• 13:49
  their
• 13:49
  life
• 13:50
  by
• 13:50
  Auru
• 13:51
  Iluvatar
• 13:51
  still.
• 13:52
  So
• 13:52
  they're
• 13:52
  not.
• 13:52
  So.
• 13:53
  So
• 13:53
  you
• 13:53
  still
• 13:53
  kind
• 13:53
  of
• 13:53
  have
• 13:54
  this
• 13:54
  kind
• 13:54
  of,
• 13:54
  like,
• 13:54
  distinction
• 13:54
  of
• 13:55
  maybe
• 13:55
  they're
• 13:55
  not
• 13:55
  quite
• 13:56
  as
• 13:56
  good
• 13:56
  as
• 13:56
  human
• 13:56
  and
• 13:57
  elves,
• 13:58
  but
• 13:58
  they're
• 13:58
  still
• 13:58
  giving
• 13:58
  their
• 13:59
  life
• 13:59
  from
• 14:00
  aerial
• 14:00
  Illuvatar,
• 14:01
  and
• 14:01
  they're
• 14:01
  still
• 14:01
  seen
• 14:01
  as
• 14:02
  good,
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  think,
• 14:03
  for
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  most
• 14:04
  part,
• 14:04
  in
• 14:04
  Arda.
• 14:04
  Right?
• 14:05
  Yeah,
• 14:06
  totally.
• 14:06
  Yeah.
• 14:07
  It's
• 14:07
  part
• 14:08
  of
• 14:08
  it
• 14:08
  is
• 14:08
  that
• 14:08
  for.
• 14:09
  For
• 14:09
  those
• 14:09
  who
• 14:09
  don't
• 14:09
  know,
• 14:09
  Aule
• 14:11
  is
• 14:11
  a
• 14:11
  sort
• 14:12
  of,
• 14:12
  like,
• 14:13
  God
• 14:13
  figure,
• 14:13
  lower
• 14:14
  G
• 14:14
  God.
• 14:14
  And
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  Tolkien's
• 14:15
  universe,
• 14:16
  there's
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  capital
• 14:16
  G,
• 14:17
  God
• 14:17
  who
• 14:17
  creates
• 14:17
  everything.
• 14:18
  But
• 14:18
  he
• 14:18
  creates
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  gods
• 14:19
  and
• 14:19
  the
• 14:20
  angels
• 14:20
  first.
• 14:21
  Kind
• 14:21
  of
• 14:21
  weird.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:22
  then
• 14:22
  he's
• 14:22
  like,
• 14:23
  all
• 14:23
  right,
• 14:23
  gods
• 14:23
  and
• 14:23
  angels,
• 14:24
  help
• 14:24
  me
• 14:24
  create
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  rest
• 14:24
  of
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  world.
• 14:26
  And
• 14:26
  he's
• 14:26
  like,
• 14:26
  by
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  way,
• 14:27
  I'm
• 14:27
  going
• 14:27
  to
• 14:27
  create
• 14:28
  some
• 14:28
  other
• 14:28
  children
• 14:28
  of
• 14:29
  mine,
• 14:29
  elves
• 14:30
  and.
• 14:31
  And
• 14:31
  human,
• 14:31
  so
• 14:32
  watch
• 14:32
  out.
• 14:33
  And
• 14:33
  Al
• 14:33
  is
• 14:34
  like,
• 14:34
  man,
• 14:34
  I
• 14:34
  can't
• 14:34
  wait
• 14:35
  that
• 14:35
  long.
• 14:36
  So
• 14:36
  because
• 14:36
  he
• 14:37
  is
• 14:37
  not
• 14:37
  a.
• 14:38
  The
• 14:38
  omnipotent
• 14:39
  deity
• 14:39
  God,
• 14:40
  he
• 14:40
  can
• 14:40
  only
• 14:41
  make
• 14:41
  these
• 14:41
  kind
• 14:42
  of
• 14:42
  meat
• 14:42
  puppets
• 14:42
  and
• 14:43
  can't
• 14:43
  control
• 14:43
  them,
• 14:44
  or
• 14:44
  he
• 14:44
  can
• 14:45
  only
• 14:45
  control
• 14:45
  them
• 14:46
  so
• 14:46
  they
• 14:47
  don't
• 14:47
  have
• 14:47
  their
• 14:47
  own
• 14:47
  will.
• 14:48
  And
• 14:48
  so
• 14:49
  Illuvitar
• 14:50
  is
• 14:50
  like,
• 14:50
  what
• 14:50
  are
• 14:50
  you
• 14:50
  doing,
• 14:50
  dude?
• 14:50
  Like,
• 14:51
  you're
• 14:51
  trying
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  be
• 14:51
  like
• 14:51
  me.
• 14:52
  Not.
• 14:52
  Not
• 14:52
  allowed.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:53
  Ali's
• 14:54
  like,
• 14:54
  oh,
• 14:54
  I'm
• 14:54
  so
• 14:54
  sorry.
• 14:55
  But
• 14:55
  then
• 14:55
  because
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  Ale
• 14:57
  being
• 14:57
  like,
• 14:57
  repentant
• 14:58
  and
• 14:58
  just
• 14:58
  trying
• 14:58
  to
• 14:59
  create
• 14:59
  and
• 14:59
  wanting
• 15:00
  to.
• 15:00
  Wanting
• 15:01
  to.
• 15:01
  Has
• 15:01
  a
• 15:02
  desire
• 15:02
  to
• 15:02
  like,
• 15:02
  be
• 15:03
  with
• 15:04
  something,
• 15:05
  to
• 15:05
  share
• 15:05
  life
• 15:06
  with.
• 15:07
  Iluvatar
• 15:07
  basically
• 15:08
  gives
• 15:08
  them
• 15:09
  life
• 15:09
  and
• 15:10
  then
• 15:10
  adopts
• 15:10
  them.
• 15:11
  And
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  way
• 15:15
  that
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  Dwarves
• 15:16
  view
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  end
• 15:16
  of
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  world,
• 15:17
  they
• 15:17
  believe
• 15:17
  that
• 15:18
  they're
• 15:18
  going
• 15:18
  to
• 15:18
  be
• 15:18
  with
• 15:18
  Aule,
• 15:19
  creating
• 15:20
  the
• 15:21
  new
• 15:22
  Arda
• 15:22
  after
• 15:23
  its
• 15:23
  destruction.
• 17:05
  That
• 17:05
  is
• 17:05
  so
• 17:05
  interesting.
• 17:06
  That's
• 17:06
  going
• 17:06
  to
• 17:06
  make.
• 17:07
  There's
• 17:07
  some
• 17:07
  fun
• 17:07
  connections
• 17:08
  with
• 17:08
  that
• 17:08
  and
• 17:08
  what
• 17:08
  happens
• 17:08
  in
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  inheritance
• 17:09
  cycle
• 17:09
  with
• 17:09
  Dwarves
• 17:10
  too.
• 17:11
  But
• 17:11
  for
• 17:11
  now,
• 17:12
  I'm
• 17:12
  going
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  stick
• 17:12
  on
• 17:12
  Arda
• 17:13
  for
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  little
• 17:13
  bit.
• 17:14
  Because
• 17:14
  this
• 17:14
  is
• 17:15
  interesting
• 17:16
  because
• 17:16
  you're
• 17:17
  mentioning
• 17:17
  how
• 17:18
  he
• 17:18
  tried
• 17:19
  to
• 17:19
  create,
• 17:19
  but
• 17:19
  he
• 17:19
  couldn't
• 17:19
  really
• 17:20
  do
• 17:20
  it
• 17:20
  on
• 17:20
  his
• 17:20
  own.
• 17:21
  And
• 17:21
  basically,
• 17:21
  ERU
• 17:22
  Iluvatar
• 17:22
  is
• 17:22
  like.
• 17:23
  Or
• 17:23
  can
• 17:23
  we
• 17:23
  just
• 17:23
  say
• 17:24
  Illuvatar?
• 17:24
  Is
• 17:24
  that
• 17:24
  fine?
• 17:25
  Yeah,
• 17:25
  that'd
• 17:25
  be
• 17:25
  fine.
• 17:26
  Okay.
• 17:26
  Iluvatar
• 17:27
  is
• 17:27
  like,
• 17:27
  hey,
• 17:27
  man.
• 17:28
  Wanting
• 17:28
  to
• 17:29
  create,
• 17:29
  that
• 17:29
  desire
• 17:29
  is
• 17:30
  good,
• 17:30
  but
• 17:30
  you
• 17:31
  ain't
• 17:31
  me.
• 17:31
  But
• 17:32
  then
• 17:32
  he
• 17:32
  blesses
• 17:32
  it
• 17:33
  anyway.
• 17:33
  But
• 17:34
  repentance,
• 17:34
  you
• 17:35
  know,
• 17:35
  whatever.
• 17:35
  And
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  think
• 17:36
  that's
• 17:36
  what
• 17:36
  we
• 17:36
  see
• 17:36
  the
• 17:37
  Dwarves
• 17:37
  do
• 17:37
  in
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  story
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  Arda,
• 17:39
  right?
• 17:39
  Like,
• 17:39
  they're
• 17:39
  constantly
• 17:40
  trying
• 17:40
  to
• 17:40
  create.
• 17:41
  And
• 17:41
  then
• 17:41
  you
• 17:41
  see
• 17:41
  them
• 17:42
  starting
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  tear
• 17:42
  down
• 17:43
  trees.
• 17:43
  And
• 17:43
  then
• 17:44
  Aule's
• 17:45
  girlfriend,
• 17:45
  I
• 17:46
  don't
• 17:46
  remember
• 17:46
  her
• 17:46
  name.
• 17:46
  So
• 17:46
  right
• 17:46
  now
• 17:47
  it's
• 17:47
  girlfriend.
• 17:48
  Yeah,
• 17:49
  yeah,
• 17:49
  that's
• 17:49
  one
• 17:49
  sexy
• 17:50
  lady.
• 17:50
  But
• 17:51
  she
• 17:51
  was
• 17:52
  like,
• 17:52
  yo,
• 17:52
  what
• 17:53
  about
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  trees?
• 17:53
  And
• 17:54
  that's
• 17:54
  how
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  Ents
• 17:54
  end
• 17:54
  up
• 17:55
  coming
• 17:55
  to
• 17:55
  be.
• 17:56
  But,
• 17:56
  like,
• 17:56
  what
• 17:56
  you
• 17:57
  see
• 17:57
  is
• 17:57
  like,
• 17:57
  the
• 17:58
  Dwarves
• 17:58
  are
• 17:59
  kind
• 17:59
  of
• 17:59
  made
• 18:00
  in
• 18:00
  the
• 18:00
  image
• 18:00
  of
• 18:01
  Aule
• 18:01
  almost
• 18:02
  because,
• 18:02
  like,
• 18:03
  they're
• 18:03
  wanting
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  create,
• 18:05
  but
• 18:05
  in
• 18:05
  their
• 18:05
  doing
• 18:06
  that,
• 18:06
  they're
• 18:06
  not
• 18:06
  doing
• 18:06
  it
• 18:07
  perfectly.
• 18:08
  You
• 18:08
  know,
• 18:08
  they're
• 18:08
  not
• 18:08
  doing
• 18:08
  it
• 18:09
  as
• 18:09
  maybe
• 18:10
  ERU
• 18:10
  Iluvatar
• 18:10
  would
• 18:11
  have
• 18:11
  wanted.
• 18:11
  Where
• 18:11
  I
• 18:11
  think
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  elves,
• 18:12
  you
• 18:12
  see
• 18:12
  working
• 18:13
  with
• 18:13
  nature
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  little
• 18:13
  bit
• 18:14
  better.
• 18:14
  And
• 18:14
  then
• 18:14
  humans
• 18:15
  are
• 18:15
  flawed
• 18:15
  because,
• 18:15
  well.
• 18:16
  Well,
• 18:16
  we're
• 18:17
  humans.
• 18:17
  So
• 18:17
  when
• 18:17
  we
• 18:17
  write
• 18:18
  stories
• 18:18
  that
• 18:18
  involve
• 18:18
  humans,
• 18:19
  it's
• 18:19
  like,
• 18:19
  yeah,
• 18:19
  screw
• 18:19
  them,
• 18:20
  they
• 18:20
  suck.
• 18:21
  Humans
• 18:22
  historically
• 18:22
  haven't
• 18:23
  liked
• 18:23
  ourselves
• 18:23
  very
• 18:23
  much.
• 18:25
  Yeah.
• 18:25
  And
• 18:26
  even
• 18:26
  the
• 18:26
  elves,
• 18:27
  this
• 18:27
  kind
• 18:27
  of
• 18:28
  draws
• 18:28
  up
• 18:28
  from
• 18:28
  the
• 18:29
  beginning
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  their
• 18:30
  conflict.
• 18:31
  The
• 18:31
  Elvish
• 18:32
  name
• 18:32
  for
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  Dwarves
• 18:33
  is
• 18:33
  Nagrim,
• 18:35
  which
• 18:35
  means
• 18:35
  the
• 18:36
  stunted
• 18:36
  people.
• 18:37
  Basically,
• 18:38
  the
• 18:38
  people
• 18:38
  who
• 18:39
  are
• 18:39
  too
• 18:39
  short.
• 18:40
  Call
• 18:41
  them
• 18:41
  short
• 18:41
  people.
• 18:42
  And
• 18:42
  now
• 18:42
  I'm
• 18:43
  going
• 18:43
  to
• 18:43
  play
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  song.
• 18:44
  I
• 18:45
  think
• 18:45
  it's
• 18:45
  from
• 18:45
  Rolling
• 18:45
  Stones.
• 18:46
  The
• 18:46
  short
• 18:46
  people
• 18:47
  got
• 18:47
  no
• 18:47
  reason.
• 18:49
  Have
• 18:49
  you
• 18:49
  Heard
• 18:50
  this.
• 18:51
  Are
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  talking
• 18:52
  about,
• 18:52
  like,
• 18:53
  can't
• 18:53
  get
• 18:53
  enough
• 18:53
  satisfaction,
• 18:54
  but
• 18:54
  instead
• 18:54
  of
• 18:55
  short
• 18:55
  people?
• 18:56
  Oh,
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  don't
• 18:56
  think
• 18:56
  so.
• 18:57
  Okay,
• 18:58
  keep
• 18:58
  talking.
• 18:58
  Tell
• 18:58
  me,
• 18:59
  why
• 18:59
  did
• 18:59
  Illuvitar
• 18:59
  make
• 19:00
  humans
• 19:00
  and
• 19:00
  elves?
• 19:00
  And
• 19:01
  I'm
• 19:01
  actually.
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  actually
• 19:02
  am
• 19:02
  going
• 19:02
  to
• 19:02
  look
• 19:02
  up
• 19:02
  the
• 19:02
  song
• 19:03
  and
• 19:03
  play
• 19:03
  it,
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  think,
• 19:03
  because
• 19:04
  it's
• 19:04
  just
• 19:04
  so
• 19:05
  freaking
• 19:05
  funny.
• 19:07
  Yeah.
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  mean,
• 19:08
  Illuvitar
• 19:09
  created
• 19:09
  humans
• 19:10
  and
• 19:10
  elves
• 19:11
  because
• 19:12
  he
• 19:12
  wanted
• 19:13
  creatures
• 19:13
  to
• 19:14
  enjoy
• 19:16
  and
• 19:16
  participate
• 19:17
  and
• 19:18
  partner
• 19:18
  with
• 19:18
  him
• 19:19
  in
• 19:19
  creating.
• 19:19
  Why
• 19:19
  both?
• 19:20
  Why
• 19:20
  not
• 19:20
  just
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  elves?
• 19:21
  Because
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  elves
• 19:22
  seem
• 19:22
  like
• 19:22
  they're
• 19:22
  more
• 19:22
  godly
• 19:23
  anyway.
• 19:23
  Right.
• 19:24
  It's.
• 19:24
  Honestly,
• 19:25
  it's
• 19:25
  more
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  Tolkien.
• 19:26
  Tolkien
• 19:26
  wanted
• 19:27
  to
• 19:27
  explore
• 19:28
  what
• 19:29
  it
• 19:29
  would
• 19:29
  be
• 19:29
  like
• 19:29
  to
• 19:30
  be
• 19:30
  a
• 19:30
  human
• 19:31
  with
• 19:31
  e.
• 19:31
  With
• 19:32
  basically
• 19:33
  immortality.
• 19:35
  And
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  elves
• 19:35
  are.
• 19:36
  They're
• 19:36
  Time
• 19:36
  Lords.
• 19:37
  Yeah.
• 19:38
  Tolkien
• 19:39
  kind
• 19:39
  of
• 19:39
  says
• 19:39
  that
• 19:39
  they're
• 19:39
  the
• 19:40
  same
• 19:40
  species
• 19:40
  as
• 19:40
  men.
• 19:41
  That's
• 19:41
  how,
• 19:41
  you
• 19:42
  know,
• 19:42
  some
• 19:42
  of
• 19:42
  them
• 19:43
  can
• 19:43
  get
• 19:43
  married
• 19:43
  and
• 19:43
  have
• 19:43
  kids.
• 19:44
  But
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  think
• 19:45
  it's
• 19:45
  more
• 19:45
  of
• 19:45
  Tolkien
• 19:46
  basically
• 19:46
  doing
• 19:46
  a
• 19:46
  thought
• 19:47
  experiment
• 19:48
  with.
• 19:49
  Interesting.
• 19:49
  Elves
• 19:49
  and
• 19:50
  immortality.
• 19:50
  Yeah.
• 19:51
  So
• 19:52
  more
• 19:52
  generically
• 19:53
  then
• 19:53
  in
• 19:53
  Arda,
• 19:54
  and
• 19:54
  I
• 19:54
  think
• 19:54
  this
• 19:54
  tends
• 19:54
  to
• 19:55
  be
• 19:55
  true
• 19:55
  over
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  course
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  most
• 19:56
  things.
• 19:57
  The
• 19:57
  elves
• 19:58
  live
• 19:58
  longer
• 19:59
  than
• 19:59
  other
• 19:59
  species.
• 20:00
  They're
• 20:00
  more
• 20:00
  sophisticated.
• 20:01
  You
• 20:02
  know,
• 20:02
  they
• 20:02
  like
• 20:03
  intellectual
• 20:03
  conversations.
• 20:04
  They're
• 20:05
  probably
• 20:06
  eating
• 20:06
  vegetarian
• 20:07
  meals
• 20:08
  and
• 20:08
  maybe
• 20:08
  having
• 20:08
  some
• 20:09
  wine.
• 20:09
  And
• 20:09
  then
• 20:10
  your
• 20:10
  dwarves
• 20:10
  are.
• 20:11
  Mead,
• 20:12
  mead.
• 20:13
  More
• 20:13
  pints.
• 20:15
  And
• 20:15
  then
• 20:15
  they're
• 20:16
  digging,
• 20:16
  they're
• 20:16
  working,
• 20:16
  they're
• 20:17
  building
• 20:17
  with
• 20:17
  their
• 20:17
  hands,
• 20:17
  but
• 20:17
  they're
• 20:17
  also
• 20:18
  good
• 20:18
  craftsmen.
• 20:19
  So,
• 20:19
  you
• 20:19
  know,
• 20:20
  they're
• 20:20
  built
• 20:20
  almost
• 20:21
  like
• 20:21
  industry,
• 20:22
  but
• 20:22
  not
• 20:22
  in
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  same
• 20:23
  way
• 20:23
  that
• 20:23
  we
• 20:23
  see
• 20:23
  Sauron
• 20:24
  and
• 20:24
  all
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  other
• 20:24
  characters
• 20:25
  that
• 20:25
  Tolkien
• 20:25
  kind
• 20:25
  of
• 20:25
  writes
• 20:26
  as
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  bad
• 20:26
  guys.
• 20:27
  Dwarven
• 20:27
  industry
• 20:28
  is
• 20:28
  more
• 20:28
  working
• 20:29
  with
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  Earth
• 20:29
  instead
• 20:30
  of
• 20:30
  against
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  Earth,
• 20:30
  I
• 20:31
  guess
• 20:31
  is
• 20:31
  how
• 20:31
  you
• 20:31
  would
• 20:31
  say
• 20:31
  it.
• 20:32
  And
• 20:32
  I
• 20:32
  think
• 20:32
  that's
• 20:33
  for
• 20:33
  both
• 20:33
  species.
• 20:34
  It's
• 20:34
  kind
• 20:34
  of
• 20:34
  true.
• 20:34
  Across
• 20:35
  the
• 20:35
  fields,
• 20:35
  maybe.
• 20:36
  Yeah,
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  agree.
• 20:37
  I
• 20:37
  agree.
• 20:38
  Yeah.
• 20:38
  I
• 20:38
  mean,
• 20:38
  I'm
• 20:38
  sure
• 20:38
  there
• 20:39
  are
• 20:39
  exceptions,
• 20:39
  but
• 20:40
  here's
• 20:40
  my
• 20:40
  favorite
• 20:41
  Dwarf
• 20:41
  song
• 20:42
  now,
• 20:42
  because.
• 20:43
  What
• 20:44
  did
• 20:44
  you
• 20:44
  say
• 20:44
  they're
• 20:44
  called
• 20:45
  by
• 20:45
  the
• 20:46
  Stunted
• 20:47
  People?
• 20:47
  Stunted
• 20:48
  People.
• 20:48
  Okay.
• 20:49
  So
• 20:49
  it's
• 20:49
  actually
• 20:49
  Randy
• 20:50
  Newman.
• 20:50
  Short
• 20:51
  People.
• 20:51
  Even
• 20:52
  better.
• 20:53
  Even
• 20:53
  Fre.
• 20:53
  So
• 20:54
  funny.
• 20:57
  Short
• 20:57
  people
• 20:57
  got
• 20:58
  no
• 20:59
  reason
• 21:00
  Short
• 21:01
  people
• 21:01
  got
• 21:02
  no
• 21:03
  reason
• 21:04
  Short
• 21:05
  people
• 21:05
  got
• 21:06
  no
• 21:07
  reason
• 21:07
  to
• 21:08
  live.
• 21:08
  They
• 21:08
  got
• 21:08
  little
• 21:08
  hands.Little
• 21:08
  eyes
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  don't
• 21:08
  know
• 21:08
  why
• 21:08
  it's
• 21:08
  so.
• 21:19
  My
• 21:20
  dad's
• 21:20
  side
• 21:20
  of
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  family
• 21:21
  are
• 21:21
  all
• 21:22
  kind
• 21:22
  of
• 21:22
  short.
• 21:23
  And
• 21:23
  for
• 21:23
  some
• 21:23
  reason,
• 21:23
  one
• 21:24
  of
• 21:24
  my
• 21:24
  aunts,
• 21:24
  because
• 21:24
  I
• 21:25
  was
• 21:25
  only
• 21:25
  allowed
• 21:25
  to
• 21:25
  listen
• 21:25
  to
• 21:25
  Christian
• 21:25
  music,
• 21:26
  with
• 21:26
  two
• 21:26
  exceptions
• 21:27
  being
• 21:28
  Disney
• 21:28
  music.
• 21:28
  And
• 21:28
  then
• 21:29
  these
• 21:29
  mixed
• 21:30
  CDs
• 21:30
  that
• 21:30
  my
• 21:31
  aunt
• 21:31
  would
• 21:31
  make
• 21:31
  me
• 21:31
  so
• 21:32
  that
• 21:32
  I
• 21:32
  had
• 21:32
  some
• 21:33
  semblance
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  culture.
• 21:35
  Right.
• 21:36
  For
• 21:36
  some
• 21:36
  reason,
• 21:36
  she
• 21:36
  put
• 21:37
  that
• 21:37
  on
• 21:37
  one
• 21:37
  of
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  CDs.
• 21:38
  So
• 21:38
  every
• 21:38
  time
• 21:38
  my
• 21:38
  dad
• 21:38
  was
• 21:39
  getting
• 21:39
  on
• 21:39
  my
• 21:39
  nerves.
• 21:39
  My
• 21:40
  dad's
• 21:40
  been
• 21:40
  shorter
• 21:41
  than
• 21:41
  me
• 21:41
  since
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  was
• 21:41
  in
• 21:41
  middle
• 21:42
  school.
• 21:42
  I
• 21:43
  would
• 21:43
  play
• 21:43
  this
• 21:44
  song
• 21:44
  because
• 21:44
  I
• 21:44
  just
• 21:44
  thought
• 21:45
  it
• 21:45
  was
• 21:45
  so
• 21:45
  funny.
• 21:47
  Now
• 21:47
  you
• 21:47
  play
• 21:47
  it.
• 21:47
  I
• 21:47
  had
• 21:48
  forgotten
• 21:48
  about
• 21:48
  that
• 21:49
  song,
• 21:49
  but
• 21:49
  I'm
• 21:49
  pretty
• 21:50
  sure
• 21:50
  someone
• 21:50
  at
• 21:50
  work
• 21:50
  showed
• 21:51
  me
• 21:51
  that
• 21:51
  song.
• 21:52
  They
• 21:52
  got
• 21:53
  little
• 21:53
  hands
• 21:54
  and
• 21:54
  little
• 21:54
  feet
• 21:54
  and
• 21:54
  they
• 21:55
  go
• 21:55
  around
• 21:55
  telling
• 21:55
  great
• 21:56
  big
• 21:56
  lies.
• 21:56
  You
• 21:56
  know,
• 21:57
  Little
• 21:58
  eyes.
• 21:58
  Yeah.
• 21:59
  Yeah,
• 21:59
  that's
• 22:00
  a.
• 22:00
  That's.
• 22:01
  That's
• 22:01
  the
• 22:01
  Dwarves.
• 22:02
  No,
• 22:02
  I'm
• 22:02
  just
• 22:02
  kidding.
• 22:03
  Dwarves
• 22:04
  are
• 22:04
  not
• 22:04
  going
• 22:04
  around
• 22:04
  telling
• 22:05
  lies.
• 22:05
  That's
• 22:05
  not
• 22:06
  what
• 22:06
  they're
• 22:06
  known
• 22:06
  for.
• 22:07
  But
• 22:07
  some
• 22:07
  of
• 22:07
  the
• 22:08
  other
• 22:08
  ones.
• 22:09
  So
• 22:09
  inherited
• 22:10
  cycle.
• 22:10
  This
• 22:10
  is
• 22:11
  for.
• 22:11
  For
• 22:11
  me,
• 22:11
  I
• 22:12
  never
• 22:12
  thought
• 22:12
  of
• 22:12
  Doors
• 22:13
  as
• 22:13
  particularly
• 22:13
  religious.
• 22:14
  Usually
• 22:14
  when
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  encounter
• 22:15
  them
• 22:15
  in
• 22:15
  stories
• 22:15
  and
• 22:15
  stuff,
• 22:16
  they're
• 22:16
  just
• 22:16
  like
• 22:17
  little
• 22:17
  men
• 22:17
  who
• 22:17
  want
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  work.
• 22:18
  You
• 22:18
  know,
• 22:19
  hi
• 22:19
  ho,
• 22:19
  hi
• 22:19
  ho,
• 22:19
  off
• 22:19
  to
• 22:20
  work
• 22:20
  we
• 22:20
  go.
• 22:21
  And
• 22:21
  then
• 22:21
  we're
• 22:21
  going
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  have
• 22:22
  some
• 22:22
  meat.
• 22:22
  And
• 22:22
  meat.
• 22:23
  But
• 22:23
  in
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  inheritance
• 22:24
  cycle,
• 22:25
  you
• 22:25
  also
• 22:25
  see
• 22:25
  that
• 22:25
  they're
• 22:26
  deeply
• 22:26
  religious.
• 22:26
  They're
• 22:27
  willing
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  lay
• 22:27
  down
• 22:27
  their
• 22:28
  lives
• 22:28
  for
• 22:28
  their
• 22:28
  religious
• 22:29
  beliefs.
• 22:29
  And
• 22:30
  they
• 22:31
  believe
• 22:31
  that
• 22:31
  if
• 22:31
  they
• 22:32
  died
• 22:32
  as
• 22:32
  long
• 22:32
  as
• 22:32
  they
• 22:32
  were
• 22:33
  buried
• 22:33
  in
• 22:33
  rock
• 22:33
  with
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  earth,
• 22:34
  that
• 22:35
  they
• 22:35
  would
• 22:35
  go
• 22:35
  to
• 22:35
  be
• 22:35
  with
• 22:35
  their
• 22:36
  God
• 22:36
  and
• 22:36
  kind
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  be
• 22:36
  able
• 22:36
  to
• 22:37
  help
• 22:37
  rebuild
• 22:38
  stuff
• 22:38
  in
• 22:38
  an
• 22:38
  afterlife.
• 22:39
  So
• 22:39
  it's
• 22:39
  kind
• 22:39
  of
• 22:39
  interesting
• 22:40
  that
• 22:41
  Tolkien
• 22:41
  has
• 22:41
  that,
• 22:42
  too.
• 22:42
  Tolkien
• 22:43
  was
• 22:43
  obviously
• 22:43
  first.
• 22:44
  Inheritance
• 22:44
  cycle
• 22:44
  is
• 22:45
  going
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  pull
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  lot
• 22:45
  from
• 22:46
  Tolkien's
• 22:46
  ideas.
• 22:48
  Which
• 22:48
  one?
• 22:48
  Which
• 22:49
  is
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  inheritance
• 22:49
  cycle
• 22:50
  again?
• 22:51
  It's
• 22:51
  Eragon.
• 22:52
  Eldest.
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  can't
• 22:54
  remember
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  other
• 22:54
  two
• 22:55
  or
• 22:55
  three
• 22:55
  books.
• 22:56
  Really
• 22:57
  good,
• 22:57
  though.
• 22:57
  They're
• 22:58
  really
• 22:58
  good.
• 22:59
  I
• 22:59
  listened
• 22:59
  to
• 22:59
  them
• 22:59
  on
• 22:59
  audiobook.
• 23:00
  I
• 23:00
  never
• 23:00
  actually
• 23:01
  read
• 23:01
  them.
• 23:01
  It
• 23:02
  was
• 23:02
  funny.
• 23:02
  This
• 23:02
  is
• 23:03
  one
• 23:03
  of
• 23:03
  the
• 23:03
  most
• 23:03
  irritating
• 23:04
  things
• 23:04
  maybe
• 23:04
  ever.
• 23:05
  My
• 23:05
  brother
• 23:05
  was
• 23:05
  obsessed
• 23:06
  with
• 23:06
  these
• 23:06
  books
• 23:06
  when
• 23:07
  he
• 23:07
  was
• 23:07
  a
• 23:07
  kid,
• 23:07
  right.
• 23:08
  And
• 23:08
  he
• 23:09
  wrote
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  author
• 23:09
  back,
• 23:10
  like,
• 23:10
  before.
• 23:11
  I
• 23:11
  think
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  second
• 23:12
  book
• 23:12
  came
• 23:12
  out.
• 23:13
  So
• 23:13
  this
• 23:13
  is
• 23:13
  like
• 23:13
  back
• 23:14
  when
• 23:14
  Christopher,
• 23:15
  whatever
• 23:15
  his
• 23:15
  name
• 23:16
  is,
• 23:16
  was
• 23:16
  basically
• 23:16
  not
• 23:17
  well,
• 23:17
  like,
• 23:17
  he
• 23:17
  wasn't
• 23:18
  that
• 23:18
  well
• 23:18
  known.
• 23:19
  So
• 23:19
  he
• 23:19
  wrote
• 23:20
  my
• 23:20
  brother
• 23:20
  back.
• 23:20
  My
• 23:20
  brother
• 23:21
  had
• 23:21
  this
• 23:21
  really
• 23:21
  long,
• 23:22
  nice
• 23:22
  handwritten
• 23:23
  letter
• 23:23
  from
• 23:23
  this
• 23:24
  author
• 23:24
  who's
• 23:24
  now,
• 23:24
  like,
• 23:25
  super
• 23:25
  famous.
• 23:26
  And
• 23:26
  he
• 23:26
  lost
• 23:26
  it.
• 23:27
  And
• 23:28
  I'm
• 23:28
  like,
• 23:29
  dude.
• 23:30
  Like,
• 23:30
  that
• 23:30
  was.
• 23:31
  Well,
• 23:31
  you
• 23:31
  know,
• 23:31
  he
• 23:31
  was
• 23:31
  like,
• 23:32
  oh,
• 23:32
  just
• 23:32
  some
• 23:32
  author
• 23:32
  I
• 23:32
  liked.
• 23:33
  It
• 23:33
  was
• 23:33
  just
• 23:33
  a
• 23:33
  guy.
• 23:33
  No
• 23:34
  one
• 23:34
  will
• 23:34
  remember
• 23:34
  him.
• 23:34
  And
• 23:34
  I'm
• 23:35
  like,
• 23:35
  right,
• 23:35
  Matt,
• 23:36
  dude,
• 23:36
  dude,
• 23:37
  you
• 23:37
  messed
• 23:37
  up.
• 23:39
  But,
• 23:39
  yeah.
• 23:40
  So
• 23:40
  beyond
• 23:40
  that,
• 23:41
  in
• 23:41
  Elder
• 23:42
  Scrolls,
• 23:42
  this
• 23:42
  is
• 23:42
  going
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  be
• 23:43
  another
• 23:43
  interesting
• 23:43
  thing
• 23:43
  with
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  Dwarves.
• 23:44
  Elves.
• 23:45
  I
• 23:45
  feel
• 23:45
  like
• 23:45
  pretty
• 23:45
  much
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  same
• 23:47
  everywhere.
• 23:47
  Like,
• 23:47
  I
• 23:48
  don't
• 23:48
  find
• 23:49
  Elves
• 23:49
  as
• 23:49
  interesting,
• 23:50
  which
• 23:50
  might
• 23:50
  tell
• 23:50
  you
• 23:50
  guys
• 23:50
  where
• 23:51
  I'm
• 23:51
  going
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  go
• 23:51
  here.
• 23:51
  But
• 23:54
  in
• 23:54
  Elder
• 23:55
  Scrolls,
• 23:56
  they're
• 23:56
  not
• 23:57
  actually
• 23:57
  dwarves,
• 23:58
  they're
• 23:58
  like
• 23:58
  the
• 23:58
  Dwemlin
• 23:59
  or
• 23:59
  something
• 23:59
  like
• 23:59
  that,
• 24:00
  right?
• 24:01
  Yeah.
• 24:02
  Have
• 24:02
  you
• 24:02
  played
• 24:02
  Elder
• 24:02
  Scrolls?
• 24:03
  Yeah,
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  played.
• 24:05
  I
• 24:05
  played
• 24:05
  a
• 24:05
  little
• 24:06
  bit
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  Oblivion,
• 24:06
  a
• 24:07
  little
• 24:07
  bit
• 24:07
  of
• 24:07
  Morrowind,
• 24:08
  and
• 24:08
  I
• 24:08
  played
• 24:08
  Skyrim
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  most.
• 24:10
  Yes.
• 24:11
  So
• 24:11
  I
• 24:11
  know
• 24:11
  that
• 24:11
  when
• 24:11
  you
• 24:11
  go
• 24:12
  into
• 24:12
  those
• 24:13
  dungeons,
• 24:13
  like,
• 24:14
  they're
• 24:14
  not
• 24:14
  really
• 24:15
  anywhere.
• 24:16
  Right.
• 24:16
  Because
• 24:16
  you
• 24:16
  basically
• 24:17
  fight
• 24:17
  their,
• 24:17
  like,
• 24:17
  little
• 24:18
  contraptions
• 24:19
  that
• 24:19
  they
• 24:19
  made
• 24:19
  or
• 24:19
  whatever.
• 24:20
  Yeah.
• 24:20
  They're
• 24:20
  like
• 24:20
  a
• 24:21
  forgotten
• 24:21
  lost
• 24:22
  race
• 24:22
  that
• 24:22
  were
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  Dwemer
• 24:23
  and.
• 24:24
  Yeah.
• 24:24
  Which
• 24:25
  the
• 24:25
  cool
• 24:25
  thing
• 24:25
  about,
• 24:25
  like,
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  contraptions
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  you're
• 24:27
  talking
• 24:27
  about
• 24:27
  is
• 24:27
  like,
• 24:27
  it's
• 24:27
  all
• 24:27
  kind
• 24:28
  of
• 24:28
  a
• 24:28
  steampunk
• 24:29
  vibe.
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  feel
• 24:29
  like.
• 24:31
  I
• 24:31
  love
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  architecture,
• 24:33
  but,
• 24:33
  yeah,
• 24:33
  the
• 24:33
  Dwemer
• 24:34
  were
• 24:34
  actually
• 24:35
  like
• 24:36
  dark
• 24:36
  elves
• 24:36
  that
• 24:37
  lived
• 24:37
  under
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  earth.
• 24:37
  So
• 24:38
  like,
• 24:38
  that's
• 24:38
  going
• 24:39
  way
• 24:39
  back
• 24:39
  to
• 24:39
  like
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  Norse
• 24:40
  stuff
• 24:40
  again.
• 24:41
  But
• 24:41
  they
• 24:41
  weren't
• 24:42
  just
• 24:42
  elves,
• 24:43
  they
• 24:43
  were
• 24:43
  just
• 24:43
  associated
• 24:44
  with
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  elves.
• 24:44
  They
• 24:44
  were
• 24:45
  still
• 24:45
  their
• 24:45
  own
• 24:45
  creature.
• 24:46
  Right.
• 24:47
  We
• 24:47
  don't
• 24:48
  know
• 24:48
  a
• 24:48
  lot
• 24:48
  about
• 24:48
  them
• 24:48
  on
• 24:48
  purpose.
• 24:49
  I
• 24:49
  think
• 24:49
  Elder
• 24:49
  Scrolls
• 24:50
  just
• 24:50
  thought
• 24:50
  it
• 24:50
  would
• 24:50
  be
• 24:50
  funny
• 24:51
  because
• 24:51
  they
• 24:51
  didn't
• 24:52
  die
• 24:52
  off,
• 24:52
  they
• 24:52
  just
• 24:53
  gone.
• 24:54
  Don't
• 24:54
  know
• 24:55
  why.
• 24:55
  It's
• 24:55
  just
• 24:55
  a
• 24:55
  mystery
• 24:56
  game
• 24:56
  has
• 24:56
  been
• 24:57
  going
• 24:57
  on
• 24:57
  forever.
• 24:57
  You
• 24:58
  think
• 24:58
  they
• 24:58
  would
• 24:58
  have
• 24:58
  given
• 24:59
  us
• 24:59
  something
• 24:59
  about
• 24:59
  it?
• 25:00
  Nah.
• 25:01
  Tolkien
• 25:02
  calls
• 25:02
  that
• 25:02
  textual
• 25:03
  ruins
• 25:04
  or.
• 25:04
  Sorry,
• 25:05
  he
• 25:05
  doesn't
• 25:05
  call
• 25:05
  it
• 25:05
  textual
• 25:06
  ruins.
• 25:06
  There's
• 25:07
  this
• 25:07
  Tolkien
• 25:07
  scholar
• 25:08
  who
• 25:08
  talks
• 25:08
  about.
• 25:08
  Because
• 25:09
  there's
• 25:09
  things
• 25:09
  in
• 25:09
  Tolkien
• 25:10
  that
• 25:10
  are
• 25:10
  unexplained.
• 25:11
  And
• 25:11
  you're
• 25:11
  like,
• 25:11
  why
• 25:11
  is
• 25:11
  this
• 25:12
  lost
• 25:12
  civilization
• 25:13
  here?
• 25:13
  You're
• 25:14
  just
• 25:14
  like,
• 25:14
  I
• 25:14
  don't
• 25:14
  know.
• 25:15
  It's
• 25:15
  called
• 25:15
  textual
• 25:16
  ruins.
• 25:17
  The
• 25:17
  ruins
• 25:17
  are
• 25:17
  there
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  it
• 25:18
  makes
• 25:18
  it
• 25:18
  like.
• 25:18
  It
• 25:19
  increases
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  depth
• 25:20
  of
• 25:21
  the
• 25:22
  feeling
• 25:22
  of
• 25:22
  realness,
• 25:23
  you
• 25:23
  know?
• 25:23
  That's
• 25:24
  great,
• 25:25
  dude.
• 25:25
  All
• 25:25
  right.
• 25:26
  I've
• 25:27
  played
• 25:27
  D
• 25:28
  and
• 25:28
  D,
• 25:28
  like,
• 25:28
  twice.
• 25:29
  I
• 25:29
  don't
• 25:29
  know
• 25:29
  a
• 25:29
  lot
• 25:29
  about
• 25:30
  it.
• 25:30
  Can
• 25:30
  you
• 25:31
  tell
• 25:31
  me
• 25:31
  anything
• 25:31
  about,
• 25:31
  like,
• 25:31
  how
• 25:31
  elves
• 25:32
  and
• 25:32
  dwarves
• 25:32
  are.
• 25:32
  Are
• 25:33
  depicted
• 25:33
  there?
• 25:33
  Do
• 25:33
  you
• 25:33
  know
• 25:34
  much
• 25:34
  about
• 25:34
  it
• 25:34
  or.
• 25:34
  Literally
• 25:35
  know
• 25:35
  nothing
• 25:36
  about
• 25:37
  the.
• 25:39
  Yeah.
• 25:39
  The
• 25:39
  lore
• 25:40
  behind
• 25:40
  deity?
• 25:40
  Very
• 25:41
  little.
• 25:41
  I've
• 25:42
  played
• 25:42
  multiple
• 25:42
  times.
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  know
• 25:44
  very
• 25:44
  little
• 25:44
  about
• 25:44
  the
• 25:44
  lore.
• 25:45
  Yeah,
• 25:46
  well,
• 25:46
  as.
• 25:46
  As
• 25:46
  far
• 25:46
  as,
• 25:47
  like,
• 25:47
  when
• 25:47
  you
• 25:47
  play
• 25:47
  and
• 25:47
  stuff
• 25:48
  and
• 25:48
  the
• 25:48
  way
• 25:48
  they
• 25:48
  do
• 25:48
  interactions,
• 25:49
  is
• 25:49
  it
• 25:49
  still
• 25:49
  basically
• 25:50
  the
• 25:50
  same
• 25:50
  as
• 25:50
  Lord
• 25:51
  of
• 25:51
  the
• 25:51
  Rings
• 25:51
  as
• 25:51
  far
• 25:51
  as
• 25:52
  you
• 25:52
  can
• 25:52
  tell,
• 25:52
  or,
• 25:52
  like,
• 25:53
  how
• 25:53
  they
• 25:53
  relate
• 25:53
  to
• 25:53
  each
• 25:53
  other
• 25:54
  or
• 25:54
  is
• 25:54
  it
• 25:54
  just
• 25:54
  kind
• 25:54
  of
• 25:55
  whatever
• 25:55
  the
• 25:56
  GM
• 25:56
  feels
• 25:56
  like
• 25:56
  that
• 25:57
  day?
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  have
• 25:58
  literally
• 25:58
  no
• 25:59
  clue.
• 25:59
  Cool.
• 26:00
  I'm
• 26:01
  sure
• 26:01
  Magic
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  Gathering
• 26:02
  probably
• 26:02
  has
• 26:02
  history
• 26:02
  too.
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  know
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  don't
• 26:04
  know
• 26:04
  it.
• 26:04
  And
• 26:04
  since
• 26:05
  you
• 26:05
  didn't
• 26:05
  mention
• 26:05
  it.
• 26:05
  I'm
• 26:06
  assuming
• 26:06
  you
• 26:06
  don't
• 26:06
  know.
• 26:07
  No,
• 26:08
  I
• 26:08
  play
• 26:08
  it,
• 26:08
  but
• 26:09
  they're
• 26:09
  kind
• 26:09
  of
• 26:10
  separate,
• 26:10
  I
• 26:10
  guess.
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  feel
• 26:11
  like
• 26:11
  elves
• 26:12
  are
• 26:12
  more
• 26:12
  prominent.
• 26:14
  I
• 26:14
  don't
• 26:14
  think
• 26:15
  there's
• 26:15
  a
• 26:15
  lot
• 26:15
  of
• 26:15
  dwarf
• 26:16
  cards
• 26:17
  comparatively
• 26:18
  speaking
• 26:19
  to
• 26:19
  how
• 26:20
  prevalent
• 26:21
  elf
• 26:21
  cards
• 26:22
  are.
• 26:22
  Gotcha.
• 26:23
  All
• 26:24
  right,
• 26:24
  so
• 26:24
  I
• 26:24
  think
• 26:24
  for
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  purpose
• 26:25
  of
• 26:25
  our
• 26:25
  conversation
• 26:26
  then
• 26:27
  will
• 26:27
  keep.
• 26:27
  Elves
• 26:27
  are
• 26:28
  pretty
• 26:28
  much
• 26:28
  static.
• 26:29
  You
• 26:29
  know,
• 26:29
  they're,
• 26:29
  they
• 26:30
  live
• 26:30
  a
• 26:30
  long
• 26:30
  time.
• 26:31
  High
• 26:31
  culture
• 26:32
  philosophy,
• 26:33
  you
• 26:34
  know,
• 26:34
  that
• 26:34
  kind
• 26:34
  of
• 26:34
  stuff.
• 26:35
  We're
• 26:35
  not
• 26:35
  going
• 26:35
  to
• 26:36
  do
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  version
• 26:36
  of
• 26:36
  Dwarves
• 26:36
  that
• 26:36
  are
• 26:37
  basically
• 26:37
  bad
• 26:38
  elves
• 26:38
  under
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  ground.
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  think
• 26:39
  for
• 26:39
  this
• 26:39
  we'll
• 26:39
  stick
• 26:40
  with
• 26:40
  like
• 26:40
  what
• 26:40
  more
• 26:41
  people
• 26:41
  are
• 26:41
  familiar
• 26:41
  with
• 26:42
  from
• 26:42
  like
• 26:42
  delishin
• 26:43
  and
• 26:43
  dungeon,
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  inheritance
• 26:46
  cycle,
• 26:46
  Lord
• 26:46
  of
• 26:46
  the
• 26:46
  Rings,
• 26:47
  that
• 26:47
  kind
• 26:47
  of
• 26:47
  stuff.
• 26:47
  So
• 26:47
  we'll
• 26:47
  take
• 26:48
  with
• 26:48
  like
• 26:48
  just
• 26:48
  like
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  normal
• 26:50
  short
• 26:50
  people
• 26:50
  who
• 26:51
  like
• 26:51
  to
• 26:51
  work
• 26:51
  in
• 26:51
  mines
• 26:52
  and
• 26:53
  eat
• 26:53
  meat,
• 26:53
  drink
• 26:53
  mead.
• 26:55
  We're
• 26:55
  going
• 26:55
  with
• 26:56
  these
• 26:56
  versions.
• 26:56
  Nick,
• 26:57
  you
• 26:57
  got
• 26:57
  to
• 26:57
  pick
• 26:58
  side
• 26:58
  elf
• 26:58
  or
• 26:59
  dwarf.
• 26:59
  Where
• 26:59
  are
• 26:59
  you
• 26:59
  going?
• 27:00
  You
• 27:00
  know,
• 27:01
  I'm
• 27:01
  probably
• 27:02
  still
• 27:02
  gonna
• 27:02
  go
• 27:02
  with
• 27:03
  the
• 27:03
  elves.
• 27:03
  You
• 27:04
  know,
• 27:04
  I
• 27:04
  do,
• 27:04
  I
• 27:04
  love
• 27:05
  Dwarves.
• 27:06
  But
• 27:07
  you
• 27:07
  know,
• 27:07
  elves,
• 27:08
  I
• 27:08
  feel
• 27:08
  like
• 27:08
  just
• 27:09
  have
• 27:09
  comfier,
• 27:10
  you
• 27:10
  know,
• 27:11
  dwellings.
• 27:11
  I
• 27:12
  feel
• 27:12
  like
• 27:12
  it's
• 27:12
  gonna
• 27:12
  be
• 27:13
  cooler.
• 27:14
  I
• 27:14
  feel
• 27:14
  like
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  food's
• 27:15
  gonna
• 27:15
  be
• 27:15
  a
• 27:15
  little
• 27:16
  more,
• 27:17
  you
• 27:17
  know,
• 27:18
  upper,
• 27:19
  you
• 27:19
  know,
• 27:19
  quality
• 27:20
  and
• 27:20
  they
• 27:20
  have
• 27:21
  awesome
• 27:21
  libraries.
• 27:22
  And
• 27:23
  Dwarves
• 27:23
  are
• 27:24
  not,
• 27:24
  are
• 27:25
  not
• 27:25
  prone
• 27:26
  to
• 27:27
  write
• 27:27
  things
• 27:27
  down
• 27:28
  very
• 27:28
  often.
• 27:31
  Yeah,
• 27:31
  see
• 27:31
  this
• 27:32
  is,
• 27:32
  this
• 27:32
  is
• 27:32
  where
• 27:32
  I'm
• 27:33
  in
• 27:33
  conflict.
• 27:34
  I
• 27:34
  love
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  read,
• 27:35
  I
• 27:36
  just
• 27:36
  do.
• 27:36
  I'm
• 27:37
  a
• 27:37
  big
• 27:37
  reader
• 27:37
  but
• 27:38
  like
• 27:38
  personality
• 27:39
  wise,
• 27:39
  everything
• 27:40
  else,
• 27:40
  man.
• 27:41
  Give
• 27:41
  me
• 27:41
  some
• 27:41
  meat,
• 27:41
  give
• 27:42
  me
• 27:42
  some
• 27:42
  mead.
• 27:42
  I
• 27:43
  want
• 27:43
  to
• 27:43
  be
• 27:43
  like
• 27:43
  that
• 27:43
  one
• 27:43
  scene
• 27:44
  in
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  first
• 27:44
  Hobbit
• 27:44
  movie
• 27:45
  where
• 27:45
  we're
• 27:45
  just
• 27:45
  like
• 27:45
  throwing
• 27:46
  crap
• 27:46
  around,
• 27:47
  singing
• 27:47
  songs.
• 27:47
  It's
• 27:48
  like,
• 27:48
  oh
• 27:48
  yeah,
• 27:49
  like,
• 27:49
  because
• 27:49
  they're
• 27:50
  not
• 27:50
  like,
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  don't
• 27:51
  like
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  me,
• 27:52
  they
• 27:52
  don't
• 27:52
  betray
• 27:53
  like
• 27:53
  toxic
• 27:53
  masculinity.
• 27:54
  They
• 27:54
  like
• 27:54
  to
• 27:54
  sing
• 27:55
  and
• 27:55
  stuff
• 27:55
  still.
• 27:55
  They're
• 27:56
  just
• 27:56
  like,
• 27:57
  we're
• 27:57
  down,
• 27:57
  we're
• 27:58
  getting
• 27:58
  dirty
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  we're
• 27:58
  gonna
• 27:58
  have
• 27:59
  a
• 27:59
  good
• 27:59
  time.
• 27:59
  And
• 27:59
  I'm
• 28:00
  like,
• 28:00
  yeah,
• 28:00
  you
• 28:00
  know
• 28:00
  what?
• 28:01
  I
• 28:01
  don't
• 28:01
  need
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  long
• 28:02
  life
• 28:02
  sophistication.
• 28:03
  That
• 28:03
  kind
• 28:03
  of
• 28:04
  like
• 28:04
  whatever.
• 28:04
  I
• 28:04
  don't
• 28:04
  want
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  eat
• 28:05
  a
• 28:05
  vegan
• 28:05
  meal.
• 28:06
  I
• 28:06
  want
• 28:06
  to
• 28:07
  eat
• 28:07
  meat,
• 28:07
  drink
• 28:07
  some
• 28:08
  beer
• 28:08
  and
• 28:09
  sing
• 28:10
  cool
• 28:10
  songs
• 28:10
  by
• 28:10
  a
• 28:11
  campfire.
• 28:11
  But
• 28:11
  I
• 28:11
  also
• 28:12
  want
• 28:12
  to
• 28:12
  read.
• 28:13
  So
• 28:13
  like,
• 28:14
  like
• 28:14
  that's
• 28:14
  where
• 28:14
  I'm
• 28:15
  like,
• 28:15
  the
• 28:15
  inheritance
• 28:15
  cycle
• 28:16
  is
• 28:16
  really
• 28:16
  what
• 28:16
  won
• 28:16
  me
• 28:16
  over.
• 28:17
  Whenever
• 28:17
  I
• 28:17
  see
• 28:17
  like
• 28:18
  these
• 28:18
  dwarves
• 28:18
  who
• 28:18
  are
• 28:18
  also
• 28:19
  highly
• 28:19
  religious,
• 28:19
  I'm
• 28:19
  like,
• 28:21
  it's
• 28:21
  hard
• 28:21
  for
• 28:21
  them
• 28:21
  to
• 28:21
  have
• 28:21
  some
• 28:22
  of
• 28:22
  these
• 28:22
  beliefs
• 28:22
  if
• 28:22
  there
• 28:22
  isn't
• 28:23
  something
• 28:23
  written
• 28:23
  down.
• 28:24
  Like
• 28:24
  some
• 28:24
  formal
• 28:25
  system
• 28:25
  here.
• 28:26
  So
• 28:26
  maybe
• 28:26
  I'm
• 28:27
  like
• 28:27
  a
• 28:27
  high
• 28:27
  priest
• 28:28
  dwarf
• 28:28
  in
• 28:28
  inheritance
• 28:29
  cycle.
• 28:30
  I
• 28:30
  don't
• 28:30
  know.
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  like
• 28:31
  that.
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  like
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  high
• 28:32
  priest,
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  cleric
• 28:33
  dwarf
• 28:33
  there.
• 28:35
  Yeah.
• 28:36
  Like
• 28:36
  we.
• 28:37
  Now
• 28:37
  we're
• 28:37
  gonna
• 28:37
  throw
• 28:38
  in.
• 28:38
  Yeah,
• 28:38
  yeah.
• 28:38
  So,
• 28:39
  like,
• 28:39
  if
• 28:39
  you
• 28:39
  were
• 28:39
  an
• 28:39
  elf,
• 28:40
  what.
• 28:40
  What
• 28:40
  class
• 28:41
  would
• 28:41
  you
• 28:41
  be?
• 28:42
  Oh,
• 28:42
  man.
• 28:42
  If
• 28:43
  I
• 28:43
  was
• 28:43
  an
• 28:43
  elf,
• 28:43
  what
• 28:44
  class
• 28:44
  I
• 28:44
  would.
• 28:45
  Would
• 28:45
  I
• 28:45
  be?
• 28:47
  I
• 28:47
  would
• 28:47
  honestly
• 28:48
  probably
• 28:49
  be
• 28:49
  an
• 28:49
  archer
• 28:51
  just
• 28:51
  because
• 28:52
  I
• 28:52
  would
• 28:53
  have
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  higher
• 28:53
  chance
• 28:54
  of
• 28:54
  surviving.
• 28:55
  That's
• 28:56
  probably
• 28:56
  what
• 28:56
  I'd
• 28:56
  be.
• 28:57
  Because
• 28:57
  I
• 28:57
  don't.
• 28:57
  You're
• 28:58
  gonna
• 28:58
  be,
• 28:58
  like,
• 28:58
  a
• 28:58
  little
• 28:58
  bit
• 28:58
  boring.
• 28:59
  Yeah.
• 29:00
  Basically
• 29:00
  Legolas,
• 29:01
  for
• 29:01
  sure.
• 29:01
  Yeah.
• 29:02
  Yeah.
• 29:03
  And
• 29:03
  I'm
• 29:03
  your.
• 29:04
  Your
• 29:04
  cleric
• 29:04
  dwarf
• 29:05
  friend.
• 29:07
  Yeah.
• 29:07
  Here's
• 29:07
  the
• 29:07
  thing.
• 29:07
  You'll
• 29:08
  bring
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  healing,
• 29:09
  you
• 29:09
  know,
• 29:09
  maybe
• 29:09
  bring
• 29:10
  in,
• 29:10
  you
• 29:10
  know,
• 29:10
  channel
• 29:11
  the
• 29:11
  God.
• 29:11
  I
• 29:11
  don't
• 29:11
  know.
• 29:12
  What's
• 29:12
  the.
• 29:12
  Do
• 29:12
  you
• 29:12
  know
• 29:12
  the
• 29:13
  Dwarven
• 29:13
  God?
• 29:13
  D
• 29:14
  and
• 29:14
  D
• 29:14
  is
• 29:14
  at
• 29:14
  all.
• 29:15
  Not
• 29:15
  in
• 29:15
  D
• 29:15
  and
• 29:16
  D.
• 29:17
  What's
• 29:17
  the.
• 29:18
  Dwarven
• 29:18
  God
• 29:18
  for
• 29:18
  the
• 29:19
  inheritance
• 29:19
  cycle?
• 29:20
  Moradin.
• 29:21
  I
• 29:22
  might
• 29:22
  be
• 29:22
  saying
• 29:22
  that
• 29:22
  incorrectly.
• 29:23
  The
• 29:23
  problem
• 29:23
  with
• 29:23
  inheritance
• 29:24
  cycle
• 29:24
  is,
• 29:24
  like,
• 29:24
  I
• 29:25
  hated
• 29:25
  the
• 29:25
  Eragun
• 29:25
  movie,
• 29:26
  so,
• 29:26
  like,
• 29:26
  I've
• 29:27
  only
• 29:27
  read
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  books,
• 29:27
  so
• 29:28
  I
• 29:28
  have
• 29:28
  that
• 29:28
  problem
• 29:28
  where
• 29:29
  I'm
• 29:30
  probably
• 29:30
  mispronouncing
• 29:31
  everything.
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  mean,
• 29:33
  it's
• 29:33
  fair.
• 29:33
  The
• 29:34
  movie,
• 29:34
  you
• 29:34
  know,
• 29:35
  get
• 29:35
  it
• 29:35
  out
• 29:35
  of
• 29:35
  here.
• 29:36
  Yeah,
• 29:36
  it
• 29:36
  was.
• 29:36
  It
• 29:36
  was
• 29:37
  bad.
• 29:37
  It
• 29:37
  was
• 29:37
  really
• 29:38
  bad.
• 29:38
  So
• 29:38
  it's
• 29:38
  a
• 29:39
  terrible
• 29:39
  use
• 29:39
  of
• 29:40
  Jeremy
• 29:40
  Lyon's
• 29:40
  talent.
• 29:41
  So
• 29:42
  true.
• 29:43
  All
• 29:43
  right,
• 29:43
  so
• 29:43
  we
• 29:43
  picked
• 29:44
  our
• 29:44
  sides.
• 29:44
  We
• 29:44
  kind
• 29:44
  of
• 29:45
  said,
• 29:45
  why
• 29:45
  a
• 29:45
  little
• 29:45
  bit.
• 29:46
  Here's
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  thing,
• 29:47
  the
• 29:48
  gimmick
• 29:48
  for
• 29:48
  our
• 29:48
  finding
• 29:48
  the
• 29:49
  good
• 29:49
  series,
• 29:49
  you
• 29:49
  got
• 29:50
  to
• 29:50
  defend
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  other
• 29:50
  side.
• 29:51
  You
• 29:51
  got
• 29:51
  to
• 29:51
  say,
• 29:52
  what
• 29:52
  can
• 29:52
  you,
• 29:53
  in
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  deepest
• 29:53
  parts
• 29:54
  of
• 29:54
  you,
• 29:54
  if
• 29:54
  you
• 29:54
  were
• 29:54
  like,
• 29:55
  what
• 29:55
  is
• 29:56
  good
• 29:56
  about
• 29:56
  Dwarves?
• 29:57
  As
• 29:57
  someone
• 29:58
  who
• 29:58
  chose
• 29:58
  the
• 29:58
  Elven
• 29:58
  side,
• 29:59
  what
• 30:00
  good
• 30:00
  do
• 30:00
  you
• 30:00
  see
• 30:00
  in
• 30:01
  Dwarven
• 30:01
  culture
• 30:02
  that
• 30:02
  you
• 30:02
  think
• 30:02
  you
• 30:03
  could
• 30:03
  glean.
• 30:04
  From
• 30:04
  one
• 30:04
  of
• 30:04
  the
• 30:04
  best
• 30:05
  things?
• 30:06
  Obviously,
• 30:06
  I'm
• 30:07
  going
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  use
• 30:07
  Tolkien
• 30:08
  as
• 30:08
  kind
• 30:08
  of
• 30:08
  my
• 30:09
  reference
• 30:09
  point,
• 30:10
  but
• 30:11
  in
• 30:12
  the
• 30:14
  Lord
• 30:14
  of
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  Rings,
• 30:16
  the
• 30:16
  legendarium,
• 30:17
  the
• 30:17
  history
• 30:17
  of
• 30:17
  Tolkien's
• 30:18
  universe,
• 30:19
  the
• 30:19
  Dwarves
• 30:20
  are
• 30:21
  one
• 30:21
  of
• 30:21
  the
• 30:21
  least
• 30:22
  corruptible
• 30:23
  races
• 30:24
  where
• 30:24
  when
• 30:25
  Sauron
• 30:25
  creates
• 30:25
  the
• 30:26
  rings
• 30:26
  to
• 30:26
  corrupt
• 30:27
  and
• 30:27
  control
• 30:27
  people,
• 30:28
  the
• 30:29
  Dwarves,
• 30:29
  you
• 30:29
  know,
• 30:30
  increases
• 30:30
  kind
• 30:31
  of
• 30:31
  their
• 30:31
  greed.
• 30:32
  But
• 30:33
  Sauron
• 30:34
  can't
• 30:34
  control
• 30:35
  them.
• 30:35
  And
• 30:35
  so
• 30:36
  they
• 30:36
  are
• 30:36
  kind
• 30:36
  of
• 30:37
  who
• 30:37
  they
• 30:37
  are.
• 30:38
  They
• 30:38
  know
• 30:38
  what
• 30:38
  they
• 30:38
  want,
• 30:39
  they
• 30:39
  know
• 30:40
  what
• 30:40
  their
• 30:40
  life
• 30:40
  is
• 30:40
  about,
• 30:41
  and
• 30:42
  they're
• 30:42
  not
• 30:42
  going
• 30:42
  to
• 30:43
  be
• 30:43
  corrupted
• 30:44
  by
• 30:44
  outside
• 30:46
  influence.
• 30:46
  And
• 30:46
  I
• 30:47
  find
• 30:47
  that
• 30:47
  really
• 30:47
  respectable.
• 30:48
  And
• 30:48
  the
• 30:48
  elves
• 30:49
  are
• 30:50
  not
• 30:50
  that
• 30:50
  way.
• 30:50
  They're
• 30:51
  a
• 30:51
  little
• 30:51
  more
• 30:51
  corruptible,
• 30:52
  obviously,
• 30:52
  men,
• 30:53
  even
• 30:53
  more
• 30:53
  so,
• 30:55
  because
• 30:55
  they're
• 30:55
  not
• 30:56
  immortal.
• 30:57
  Yeah,
• 30:58
  but
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  elves
• 30:58
  are
• 30:58
  Always
• 30:58
  trying
• 30:59
  to
• 30:59
  kind
• 30:59
  of
• 31:00
  keep
• 31:00
  making
• 31:00
  cool
• 31:01
  science
• 31:01
  stuff,
• 31:01
  keep
• 31:02
  learning.
• 31:02
  And
• 31:03
  Sauron
• 31:04
  takes
• 31:04
  advantage
• 31:04
  of
• 31:04
  that.
• 31:06
  That's
• 31:06
  something
• 31:06
  I
• 31:06
  didn't
• 31:06
  even
• 31:06
  know
• 31:07
  about
• 31:07
  my
• 31:07
  own
• 31:07
  side
• 31:08
  that
• 31:08
  I
• 31:08
  chose
• 31:08
  today.
• 31:09
  I
• 31:09
  know.
• 31:10
  I
• 31:10
  feel
• 31:10
  wiser
• 31:11
  already.
• 31:12
  Yeah.
• 31:14
  Here's
• 31:15
  what
• 31:15
  I
• 31:15
  love.
• 31:15
  So
• 31:16
  I
• 31:16
  mentioned
• 31:16
  I
• 31:16
  love
• 31:16
  reading
• 31:17
  and
• 31:17
  stuff,
• 31:17
  but
• 31:18
  I
• 31:18
  think
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  thing,
• 31:19
  if
• 31:19
  I'm
• 31:19
  finding
• 31:19
  the
• 31:19
  good
• 31:20
  in
• 31:20
  the
• 31:20
  other
• 31:20
  side,
• 31:20
  I'm
• 31:20
  looking
• 31:21
  at.
• 31:21
  I
• 31:22
  chose
• 31:22
  dwarf.
• 31:22
  I'm
• 31:22
  looking
• 31:22
  at
• 31:23
  the
• 31:23
  elven
• 31:23
  side.
• 31:23
  What
• 31:23
  do
• 31:24
  I
• 31:24
  love
• 31:24
  about
• 31:24
  this
• 31:24
  culture?
• 31:25
  What
• 31:25
  do
• 31:25
  I
• 31:25
  still
• 31:25
  find
• 31:26
  that
• 31:26
  we
• 31:26
  can
• 31:26
  gleam
• 31:27
  from
• 31:27
  elven
• 31:27
  culture,
• 31:28
  which,
• 31:28
  again,
• 31:28
  is
• 31:28
  fictional.
• 31:29
  But
• 31:29
  still,
• 31:31
  their
• 31:31
  respect
• 31:31
  for
• 31:31
  language
• 31:32
  is
• 31:32
  so
• 31:32
  freaking
• 31:32
  cool.
• 31:33
  Like,
• 31:33
  they
• 31:33
  still
• 31:33
  speak
• 31:33
  the
• 31:34
  language
• 31:34
  of
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  gods.
• 31:34
  Especially,
• 31:35
  like,
• 31:35
  I'm
• 31:35
  sticking
• 31:35
  with
• 31:36
  Arda
• 31:36
  mostly,
• 31:36
  but
• 31:37
  also,
• 31:37
  like,
• 31:37
  when
• 31:37
  you
• 31:37
  see
• 31:38
  how
• 31:38
  they
• 31:38
  name
• 31:38
  weapons
• 31:39
  or,
• 31:39
  like,
• 31:39
  how
• 31:39
  they
• 31:40
  like
• 31:40
  why
• 31:41
  they
• 31:41
  name
• 31:41
  things
• 31:41
  the
• 31:41
  way
• 31:42
  they
• 31:42
  do,
• 31:42
  why
• 31:42
  they
• 31:42
  write
• 31:42
  things
• 31:43
  the
• 31:43
  way
• 31:43
  they
• 31:43
  do,
• 31:43
  what
• 31:43
  they
• 31:43
  call
• 31:44
  their
• 31:44
  different
• 31:44
  halls.
• 31:44
  Like,
• 31:44
  they
• 31:45
  just
• 31:45
  have
• 31:45
  such
• 31:45
  a
• 31:45
  respect
• 31:45
  for
• 31:46
  language.
• 31:47
  And
• 31:47
  that's
• 31:48
  something
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  feel
• 31:48
  like
• 31:49
  I
• 31:49
  could
• 31:49
  do
• 31:49
  better.
• 31:49
  You
• 31:50
  know,
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  know
• 31:50
  whenever
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  do,
• 31:51
  you
• 31:51
  know,
• 31:51
  I'm
• 31:52
  a
• 31:52
  little
• 31:52
  Bible
• 31:52
  nerd.
• 31:52
  I
• 31:53
  usually
• 31:53
  just
• 31:53
  read
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  English,
• 31:54
  but
• 31:54
  every
• 31:54
  now
• 31:54
  and
• 31:54
  then
• 31:54
  when
• 31:55
  I
• 31:55
  decide
• 31:55
  I'm
• 31:55
  gonna
• 31:55
  read
• 31:55
  some
• 31:56
  Aramaic
• 31:56
  or
• 31:56
  Hebrew
• 31:56
  or
• 31:57
  something,
• 31:57
  I'm
• 31:57
  like,
• 31:57
  oh,
• 31:57
  wait,
• 31:57
  yeah,
• 31:58
  I
• 31:58
  do
• 31:58
  gleam
• 31:58
  more
• 31:59
  from
• 31:59
  looking
• 31:59
  at
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  language
• 32:00
  of
• 32:00
  this
• 32:00
  thing.
• 32:00
  And,
• 32:01
  you
• 32:01
  know,
• 32:02
  even
• 32:02
  if
• 32:02
  I
• 32:02
  read
• 32:02
  other
• 32:03
  religions
• 32:03
  like
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  Quran
• 32:04
  and
• 32:04
  I
• 32:04
  look
• 32:04
  at
• 32:05
  like
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  Arabic
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  I
• 32:05
  do,
• 32:05
  like
• 32:06
  a
• 32:06
  little
• 32:06
  word
• 32:06
  study.
• 32:07
  You
• 32:07
  learn
• 32:08
  more
• 32:08
  from
• 32:08
  respecting
• 32:09
  original
• 32:09
  language,
• 32:10
  respecting
• 32:11
  why
• 32:11
  things
• 32:11
  name
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  way
• 32:12
  it
• 32:12
  is,
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  history
• 32:13
  of
• 32:13
  a
• 32:13
  word,
• 32:14
  you
• 32:14
  know,
• 32:14
  even
• 32:14
  in
• 32:14
  this,
• 32:15
  like,
• 32:16
  I
• 32:16
  didn't
• 32:16
  know
• 32:16
  anything
• 32:17
  about
• 32:17
  dwarf.
• 32:17
  And
• 32:17
  then
• 32:17
  you're
• 32:18
  telling
• 32:18
  me
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  old
• 32:18
  Elvish
• 32:19
  word
• 32:19
  and
• 32:19
  like,
• 32:19
  we
• 32:19
  got
• 32:20
  like
• 32:20
  a
• 32:20
  little
• 32:20
  fun
• 32:20
  song
• 32:21
  moment
• 32:21
  out
• 32:21
  of
• 32:21
  it.
• 32:21
  And
• 32:22
  like,
• 32:22
  I'm
• 32:22
  looking
• 32:22
  at
• 32:22
  like
• 32:23
  the
• 32:23
  history
• 32:23
  of
• 32:23
  Norse
• 32:23
  and
• 32:24
  I'm
• 32:24
  like,
• 32:24
  man,
• 32:24
  if
• 32:24
  I
• 32:24
  just
• 32:25
  knew
• 32:25
  how
• 32:25
  much
• 32:25
  was
• 32:26
  packed
• 32:26
  into
• 32:26
  the
• 32:26
  word
• 32:26
  dwarf,
• 32:27
  I
• 32:28
  would
• 32:28
  have
• 32:28
  such
• 32:28
  a
• 32:28
  better
• 32:28
  respect
• 32:29
  for
• 32:29
  it.
• 32:29
  And
• 32:29
  I'm
• 32:29
  like,
• 32:30
  I
• 32:30
  don't
• 32:30
  know.
• 32:30
  So
• 32:31
  I
• 32:31
  guess
• 32:31
  that's
• 32:31
  my
• 32:31
  big
• 32:31
  thing
• 32:32
  with
• 32:32
  elves
• 32:32
  that
• 32:32
  I'm
• 32:32
  like,
• 32:32
  man,
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  love
• 32:33
  their.
• 32:34
  Their
• 32:34
  love
• 32:34
  of
• 32:34
  words.
• 32:36
  Yeah.
• 32:36
  Oh,
• 32:36
  yeah.
• 32:37
  To.
• 32:38
  To.
• 32:38
  One
• 32:38
  other
• 32:38
  fun
• 32:39
  fact
• 32:39
  is
• 32:39
  that
• 32:39
  the
• 32:40
  elves.
• 32:40
  I
• 32:40
  can't
• 32:41
  remember
• 32:41
  who
• 32:42
  it
• 32:42
  is.
• 32:43
  So
• 32:43
  the.
• 32:43
  The
• 32:43
  elfish
• 32:44
  script
• 32:44
  that
• 32:45
  we
• 32:45
  see
• 32:45
  in
• 32:45
  like
• 32:45
  Lord
• 32:46
  of
• 32:46
  the
• 32:46
  Rings
• 32:46
  and
• 32:46
  the
• 32:47
  normal
• 32:47
  stuff
• 32:48
  is.
• 32:48
  Was.
• 32:49
  Were
• 32:49
  created
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  out
• 32:50
  like
• 32:51
  the
• 32:51
  writing
• 32:51
  style
• 32:51
  was
• 32:52
  created
• 32:52
  by
• 32:53
  guy
• 32:53
  named
• 32:53
  Theanor
• 32:54
  who
• 32:54
  also
• 32:55
  loves
• 32:55
  to
• 32:55
  craft
• 32:56
  things.
• 32:57
  One
• 32:57
  of
• 32:57
  the
• 32:57
  most
• 32:57
  dwarf,
• 32:58
  like,
• 32:58
  elves
• 32:59
  out
• 32:59
  of
• 32:59
  the
• 32:59
  history.
• 33:00
  But
• 33:00
  there
• 33:01
  was
• 33:01
  a
• 33:01
  person
• 33:01
  before
• 33:02
  him
• 33:02
  who
• 33:03
  wrote.
• 33:03
  Who
• 33:04
  created
• 33:04
  an
• 33:04
  Alphabet
• 33:05
  Writing
• 33:05
  system.
• 33:06
  And
• 33:06
  I
• 33:06
  want
• 33:06
  to
• 33:07
  say
• 33:07
  it's
• 33:07
  Pangolo
• 33:08
  is
• 33:08
  his
• 33:08
  name.
• 33:09
  Don't
• 33:09
  quote
• 33:09
  me.
• 33:09
  I
• 33:09
  might
• 33:10
  be
• 33:10
  wrong
• 33:11
  on
• 33:11
  the
• 33:11
  name,
• 33:11
  but
• 33:12
  it
• 33:12
  was
• 33:12
  called
• 33:12
  the
• 33:12
  Kth.
• 33:13
  And
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  dwarves
• 33:14
  use
• 33:15
  the
• 33:15
  Kth
• 33:16
  for
• 33:16
  their
• 33:16
  writing
• 33:17
  and
• 33:17
  Lord
• 33:18
  of
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  Rings
• 33:19
  so
• 33:19
  their
• 33:19
  writing
• 33:20
  style
• 33:20
  is
• 33:20
  rooted
• 33:21
  in
• 33:22
  the
• 33:22
  elvish
• 33:22
  invention
• 33:24
  of
• 33:24
  legends.
• 33:25
  That's
• 33:25
  super
• 33:25
  cool,
• 33:26
  man.
• 33:26
  That's
• 33:26
  cool.
• 33:28
  So
• 33:29
  this
• 33:29
  is
• 33:29
  a
• 33:29
  little
• 33:29
  bit
• 33:29
  random,
• 33:30
  but
• 33:30
  since
• 33:30
  you
• 33:31
  mentioned
• 33:31
  it,
• 33:31
  what
• 33:31
  I
• 33:31
  find
• 33:32
  interesting
• 33:33
  for
• 33:33
  me
• 33:34
  in
• 33:34
  Arda,
• 33:35
  Lord
• 33:35
  of
• 33:35
  the
• 33:35
  Rings
• 33:36
  kind
• 33:36
  of
• 33:36
  stuff,
• 33:37
  Dwarves
• 33:37
  seem
• 33:38
  like
• 33:38
  not
• 33:39
  anti
• 33:39
  magic,
• 33:40
  but
• 33:41
  they
• 33:41
  don't
• 33:41
  mess
• 33:41
  with
• 33:42
  that
• 33:42
  stuff.
• 33:42
  Delicious.
• 33:42
  In
• 33:42
  dungeon,
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  dwarf
• 33:43
  that's
• 33:44
  part
• 33:44
  of
• 33:44
  your
• 33:45
  main
• 33:45
  group
• 33:45
  there
• 33:45
  doesn't
• 33:46
  like
• 33:46
  magic
• 33:46
  at
• 33:46
  all.
• 33:47
  And
• 33:47
  in
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  inheritance
• 33:48
  cycle
• 33:48
  though,
• 33:49
  Dwarves
• 33:49
  are
• 33:50
  really
• 33:50
  big
• 33:50
  on
• 33:50
  like
• 33:50
  ruins
• 33:51
  and
• 33:51
  stuff
• 33:51
  in
• 33:51
  the
• 33:51
  caves.
• 33:52
  So
• 33:52
  like
• 33:52
  they
• 33:52
  have
• 33:52
  like
• 33:52
  their
• 33:53
  own
• 33:53
  kind
• 33:53
  of
• 33:53
  like
• 33:53
  ancient
• 33:54
  Earth
• 33:54
  magic.
• 33:54
  And
• 33:55
  I
• 33:55
  like,
• 33:55
  I
• 33:55
  kind
• 33:55
  of
• 33:55
  like
• 33:56
  kind
• 33:56
  of
• 33:56
  like
• 33:56
  that
• 33:56
  vibe.
• 33:57
  Yeah,
• 33:58
  Yeah.
• 33:58
  I
• 33:59
  wonder
• 33:59
  at
• 33:59
  what
• 33:59
  point
• 34:00
  they
• 34:00
  went
• 34:00
  from
• 34:01
  like
• 34:01
  these
• 34:01
  dark
• 34:01
  elf
• 34:02
  kind
• 34:02
  of
• 34:02
  mysterious
• 34:03
  magic
• 34:03
  stuff
• 34:03
  under
• 34:04
  the
• 34:04
  ground
• 34:04
  to
• 34:05
  nope,
• 34:05
  we
• 34:05
  build
• 34:06
  now.
• 34:06
  Or
• 34:07
  if
• 34:07
  like
• 34:07
  it
• 34:07
  was
• 34:07
  a
• 34:07
  little
• 34:07
  bit
• 34:08
  of
• 34:08
  both
• 34:08
  in
• 34:08
  Norse
• 34:08
  and
• 34:08
  then
• 34:09
  we
• 34:09
  just
• 34:09
  highlighted
• 34:10
  one
• 34:10
  and
• 34:10
  left
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  other
• 34:11
  out
• 34:11
  or
• 34:11
  what
• 34:11
  happened?
• 34:12
  That's
• 34:12
  a
• 34:12
  great
• 34:12
  question.
• 34:13
  I
• 34:13
  don't
• 34:13
  know.
• 34:13
  Also
• 34:13
  I
• 34:14
  was
• 34:14
  looking
• 34:14
  up
• 34:14
  what
• 34:14
  if.
• 34:15
  So
• 34:15
  actually
• 34:15
  Feanor
• 34:16
  created
• 34:16
  the.
• 34:16
  Kirby.
• 34:17
  Sorry.
• 34:17
  So
• 34:17
  it
• 34:17
  wasn't
• 34:18
  the
• 34:18
  other
• 34:18
  guy,
• 34:20
  man,
• 34:21
  I,
• 34:21
  I
• 34:21
  honestly
• 34:22
  don't
• 34:22
  even
• 34:23
  know.
• 34:24
  I,
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  think
• 34:25
  probably
• 34:26
  it
• 34:26
  had
• 34:27
  to.
• 34:27
  Do
• 34:28
  with
• 34:29
  probably
• 34:29
  Tolkien.
• 34:30
  I
• 34:30
  think
• 34:31
  so.
• 34:31
  Because
• 34:31
  what
• 34:31
  Tolkien
• 34:32
  does
• 34:33
  is
• 34:33
  that
• 34:33
  there
• 34:33
  was
• 34:34
  also,
• 34:34
  which
• 34:35
  happens
• 34:35
  throughout
• 34:35
  history
• 34:36
  too,
• 34:36
  usually
• 34:37
  stereotypes
• 34:38
  of
• 34:39
  certain
• 34:39
  fantasy
• 34:40
  races
• 34:41
  are
• 34:41
  connected
• 34:42
  to
• 34:42
  real
• 34:42
  life
• 34:43
  interactions
• 34:43
  with
• 34:44
  people
• 34:44
  of
• 34:44
  different
• 34:44
  ethnicities,
• 34:45
  nationalities.
• 34:46
  Right.
• 34:46
  And
• 34:47
  so
• 34:47
  one
• 34:47
  of
• 34:47
  the
• 34:47
  most
• 34:48
  negative
• 34:48
  things
• 34:49
  and
• 34:49
  wrestled
• 34:49
  with
• 34:50
  is
• 34:50
  that
• 34:50
  he
• 34:50
  uses
• 34:51
  a
• 34:51
  lot
• 34:51
  of
• 34:51
  anti
• 34:52
  Semitic
• 34:52
  tropes
• 34:53
  at
• 34:54
  first
• 34:54
  in
• 34:55
  creating
• 34:55
  the
• 34:55
  Dwarves,
• 34:56
  which
• 34:56
  is
• 34:56
  actually
• 34:56
  pretty
• 34:58
  prevalent.
• 34:59
  And
• 34:59
  I'm
• 35:00
  thinking
• 35:00
  about
• 35:00
  even
• 35:00
  how
• 35:00
  they're
• 35:01
  depicted
• 35:01
  in
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  movies
• 35:01
  and
• 35:01
  stuff.
• 35:02
  And
• 35:02
  I'm
• 35:02
  like,
• 35:02
  I
• 35:02
  can,
• 35:02
  I
• 35:03
  can
• 35:03
  see
• 35:03
  it.
• 35:03
  Yeah,
• 35:04
  right.
• 35:04
  And
• 35:05
  so
• 35:05
  to
• 35:06
  on
• 35:06
  top
• 35:06
  of
• 35:06
  that
• 35:06
  to
• 35:07
  say
• 35:07
  like,
• 35:07
  oh,
• 35:07
  they're
• 35:07
  evil,
• 35:08
  they're
• 35:08
  from
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  ground.
• 35:09
  There
• 35:09
  is
• 35:09
  sort
• 35:10
  of
• 35:10
  this
• 35:10
  implicit,
• 35:11
  you
• 35:12
  know,
• 35:13
  or
• 35:13
  inherent
• 35:14
  anti
• 35:14
  Semitism.
• 35:15
  And
• 35:15
  I
• 35:15
  think
• 35:15
  Tolkien
• 35:16
  tried
• 35:16
  to
• 35:17
  later
• 35:17
  in
• 35:17
  life
• 35:18
  bring
• 35:19
  that
• 35:19
  out
• 35:19
  and
• 35:20
  be
• 35:20
  like,
• 35:20
  okay.
• 35:21
  He
• 35:22
  even
• 35:22
  talks
• 35:22
  about
• 35:22
  how
• 35:23
  the
• 35:23
  language
• 35:23
  of
• 35:24
  the
• 35:24
  dwarves
• 35:25
  is
• 35:25
  inspired
• 35:26
  by
• 35:26
  Hebrew,
• 35:27
  like
• 35:27
  actual
• 35:28
  Hebrew
• 35:29
  language.
• 35:30
  And
• 35:30
  so
• 35:30
  I
• 35:30
  think
• 35:30
  he's
• 35:30
  trying
• 35:31
  to
• 35:31
  like,
• 35:31
  he
• 35:31
  eventually
• 35:32
  tries
• 35:32
  to
• 35:32
  like
• 35:32
  elevate
• 35:33
  it,
• 35:33
  make
• 35:34
  the
• 35:34
  dwarves
• 35:34
  a
• 35:35
  good
• 35:35
  culture
• 35:35
  and
• 35:36
  whatever.
• 35:36
  Yeah,
• 35:37
  I
• 35:37
  actually,
• 35:37
  I
• 35:37
  kind
• 35:37
  of
• 35:38
  like
• 35:38
  that
• 35:38
  connection.
• 35:40
  And
• 35:40
  this,
• 35:40
  this
• 35:40
  isn't
• 35:40
  based
• 35:41
  on
• 35:41
  anything
• 35:41
  smart.
• 35:43
  If
• 35:43
  people
• 35:43
  are
• 35:43
  listening
• 35:43
  and
• 35:43
  wondering,
• 35:44
  this
• 35:44
  is
• 35:44
  just
• 35:44
  like
• 35:45
  vibes,
• 35:46
  like
• 35:46
  the
• 35:46
  Hebrew
• 35:47
  language
• 35:47
  from
• 35:47
  what
• 35:47
  I've
• 35:47
  studied
• 35:48
  really
• 35:48
  does
• 35:48
  feel
• 35:48
  more
• 35:49
  earthy.
• 35:49
  Where
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  guess
• 35:50
  like
• 35:50
  the
• 35:50
  Greek
• 35:51
  and
• 35:51
  stuff
• 35:51
  of
• 35:51
  like
• 35:51
  the
• 35:51
  New
• 35:52
  Testament
• 35:52
  feels
• 35:52
  a
• 35:53
  little
• 35:53
  bit
• 35:53
  more
• 35:53
  sophisticated.
• 35:54
  So
• 35:55
  kind
• 35:55
  of
• 35:55
  like
• 35:55
  this
• 35:55
  like,
• 35:56
  like
• 35:56
  the
• 35:57
  dwarves
• 35:57
  or
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  Old
• 35:57
  Testament,
• 35:58
  Hebrew,
• 35:58
  the
• 35:59
  elves
• 35:59
  or
• 35:59
  the
• 35:59
  New
• 36:00
  Testament
• 36:00
  Greek,
• 36:00
  you
• 36:00
  know.
• 36:02
  Well,
• 36:02
  I
• 36:02
  think
• 36:02
  too,
• 36:02
  especially
• 36:03
  like
• 36:03
  the
• 36:03
  Old
• 36:03
  Testament
• 36:04
  and
• 36:04
  a
• 36:04
  lot
• 36:04
  of
• 36:05
  the,
• 36:05
  you
• 36:05
  know,
• 36:05
  the
• 36:06
  Hebrew
• 36:06
  Bible,
• 36:07
  the
• 36:07
  land
• 36:08
  is
• 36:09
  like
• 36:09
  one
• 36:09
  of
• 36:09
  the
• 36:09
  biggest
• 36:10
  themes
• 36:10
  that,
• 36:11
  you
• 36:11
  know,
• 36:11
  like
• 36:11
  you
• 36:11
  said,
• 36:12
  it's
• 36:12
  like
• 36:12
  feels
• 36:12
  earthy.
• 36:13
  And
• 36:13
  Tolkien,
• 36:14
  which
• 36:14
  his
• 36:14
  theory
• 36:15
  I
• 36:15
  think
• 36:15
  is
• 36:15
  wrong
• 36:16
  is
• 36:16
  that
• 36:17
  in
• 36:17
  modern
• 36:17
  day
• 36:18
  linguistics.
• 36:19
  But
• 36:19
  he
• 36:19
  was
• 36:19
  writing
• 36:20
  and
• 36:20
  thought,
• 36:21
  and
• 36:21
  I
• 36:21
  think
• 36:21
  even
• 36:21
  in
• 36:22
  his
• 36:22
  day
• 36:22
  it
• 36:22
  was
• 36:22
  wrong.
• 36:22
  But
• 36:23
  he
• 36:23
  thought
• 36:23
  that
• 36:23
  language
• 36:24
  had
• 36:25
  inherent
• 36:25
  vibes
• 36:26
  in
• 36:26
  them.
• 36:27
  So
• 36:27
  he
• 36:27
  thought
• 36:27
  words
• 36:28
  could
• 36:29
  literally
• 36:29
  sound
• 36:30
  worse
• 36:30
  than
• 36:30
  others
• 36:31
  and
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  it
• 36:32
  was
• 36:33
  potentially
• 36:33
  like
• 36:34
  the
• 36:35
  Platonic
• 36:35
  form
• 36:35
  of
• 36:36
  a
• 36:36
  word,
• 36:37
  essentially.
• 36:38
  See,
• 36:38
  the
• 36:39
  thing
• 36:39
  is,
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  problem
• 36:40
  with
• 36:40
  that
• 36:40
  is
• 36:40
  like,
• 36:40
  that's
• 36:41
  so
• 36:41
  subjective
• 36:41
  because,
• 36:42
  like
• 36:43
  me
• 36:43
  personally,
• 36:44
  I
• 36:45
  don't
• 36:45
  like
• 36:45
  hearing
• 36:46
  French.
• 36:46
  I
• 36:46
  don't
• 36:46
  know
• 36:47
  what
• 36:47
  it
• 36:47
  is.
• 36:48
  It
• 36:48
  just
• 36:48
  is.
• 36:48
  It's
• 36:49
  like
• 36:49
  supposed
• 36:49
  to
• 36:49
  be
• 36:49
  like
• 36:49
  this
• 36:49
  romantic
• 36:50
  language.
• 36:50
  But
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  hear
• 36:50
  it,
• 36:51
  I'm
• 36:51
  like,
• 36:51
  nah,
• 36:52
  give
• 36:52
  me
• 36:52
  some
• 36:52
  German,
• 36:53
  some
• 36:53
  Russian,
• 36:55
  some
• 36:55
  Italian,
• 36:56
  you
• 36:56
  know,
• 36:56
  like
• 36:57
  Latin,
• 36:57
  Spanish,
• 36:58
  I
• 36:58
  love
• 36:58
  it
• 36:59
  all.
• 36:59
  For
• 36:59
  some
• 36:59
  reason,
• 37:00
  French
• 37:00
  is
• 37:01
  like
• 37:01
  the
• 37:01
  one
• 37:01
  language
• 37:01
  that
• 37:01
  I
• 37:02
  listen
• 37:02
  to
• 37:02
  and
• 37:02
  I'm
• 37:02
  like,
• 37:02
  I
• 37:02
  don't
• 37:03
  want
• 37:03
  to
• 37:03
  hear
• 37:03
  this
• 37:03
  anymore.
• 37:05
  Go
• 37:05
  away
• 37:06
  before
• 37:06
  I
• 37:06
  taunt
• 37:07
  you
• 37:07
  a
• 37:07
  second
• 37:07
  time.
• 37:09
  I
• 37:09
  just
• 37:10
  offended
• 37:10
  like,
• 37:10
  like
• 37:10
  all
• 37:11
  these
• 37:11
  people
• 37:11
  who
• 37:11
  are
• 37:11
  listening
• 37:12
  to
• 37:12
  our
• 37:12
  podcast
• 37:12
  in
• 37:12
  France,
• 37:13
  because
• 37:13
  there
• 37:13
  are
• 37:13
  a
• 37:13
  few
• 37:13
  and
• 37:14
  I
• 37:14
  forgot
• 37:14
  about
• 37:14
  that.
• 37:14
  Sorry
• 37:15
  guys,
• 37:15
  this
• 37:15
  is
• 37:15
  French
• 37:15
  people.
• 37:16
  I
• 37:16
  don't
• 37:16
  like
• 37:16
  your
• 37:16
  language.
• 37:17
  Some
• 37:17
  Canadians
• 37:17
  do.
• 37:18
  Oh,
• 37:18
  sorry.
• 37:19
  Listen,
• 37:19
  I'm
• 37:19
  sorry
• 37:19
  guys,
• 37:20
  I
• 37:20
  apologize.
• 37:21
  I'm
• 37:21
  an
• 37:21
  ignorant
• 37:22
  American
• 37:22
  dwarf
• 37:23
  priest.
• 37:25
  Is
• 37:25
  Canada
• 37:26
  even
• 37:26
  a
• 37:26
  real
• 37:26
  country?
• 37:27
  Try.
• 37:27
  That's
• 37:27
  a
• 37:27
  South
• 37:28
  park
• 37:28
  reference.
• 37:30
  So,
• 37:31
  Nick,
• 37:31
  I
• 37:31
  do
• 37:31
  want
• 37:31
  to
• 37:31
  get
• 37:31
  at.
• 37:32
  Since
• 37:33
  we
• 37:33
  talked
• 37:33
  about
• 37:33
  Arda
• 37:33
  a
• 37:33
  lot,
• 37:34
  when
• 37:34
  you
• 37:34
  get
• 37:35
  into
• 37:35
  the
• 37:35
  Lord
• 37:35
  of
• 37:35
  the
• 37:35
  Rings
• 37:35
  movie,
• 37:36
  a
• 37:36
  lot
• 37:36
  of
• 37:36
  people
• 37:36
  might
• 37:36
  not
• 37:36
  understand
• 37:37
  why
• 37:38
  in
• 37:38
  that
• 37:39
  movie
• 37:39
  it
• 37:39
  exists.
• 37:39
  Because
• 37:40
  I
• 37:40
  think
• 37:40
  that's
• 37:40
  most
• 37:41
  people's
• 37:41
  main
• 37:42
  point
• 37:43
  of
• 37:43
  reference
• 37:43
  is
• 37:44
  like
• 37:44
  Legolas
• 37:45
  and
• 37:45
  Gimli.
• 37:45
  Gimli's
• 37:46
  like
• 37:46
  dwarves
• 37:47
  or
• 37:47
  elves.
• 37:48
  You
• 37:48
  know
• 37:48
  what
• 37:48
  I
• 37:48
  mean?
• 37:49
  And
• 37:49
  Legolas
• 37:50
  is
• 37:50
  like
• 37:51
  dwarf.
• 37:53
  Sorry,
• 37:54
  in
• 37:54
  my
• 37:54
  mind,
• 37:54
  Legolas
• 37:55
  is
• 37:55
  like
• 37:55
  way
• 37:55
  worse
• 37:55
  nudie
• 37:56
  than
• 37:56
  he
• 37:56
  actually
• 37:56
  is.
• 37:57
  Yes,
• 37:57
  the
• 37:57
  Dwarves.
• 38:00
  But
• 38:00
  so
• 38:01
  for
• 38:01
  people
• 38:01
  who
• 38:01
  aren't
• 38:01
  aware,
• 38:02
  like
• 38:02
  when
• 38:02
  Lord
• 38:03
  of
• 38:03
  the
• 38:03
  Rings
• 38:03
  starts,
• 38:04
  why
• 38:04
  is
• 38:04
  Gimli
• 38:05
  and
• 38:05
  Legolas
• 38:05
  like,
• 38:07
  where's
• 38:07
  that
• 38:07
  tension
• 38:08
  coming
• 38:08
  from?
• 38:09
  Yeah,
• 38:10
  so
• 38:10
  for
• 38:10
  those
• 38:11
  who
• 38:11
  like,
• 38:12
  obviously,
• 38:12
  if
• 38:12
  you're
• 38:12
  thinking
• 38:12
  of
• 38:13
  like
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  Fellowship
• 38:13
  of
• 38:13
  the
• 38:14
  Ring
• 38:14
  movie,
• 38:14
  when
• 38:14
  they're
• 38:14
  at
• 38:15
  The
• 38:15
  Council
• 38:15
  of
• 38:15
  Elrond.
• 38:16
  And
• 38:17
  you
• 38:17
  know,
• 38:17
  Gimli
• 38:18
  says
• 38:18
  something,
• 38:18
  he's
• 38:19
  like,
• 38:19
  I'll
• 38:19
  die
• 38:19
  before
• 38:19
  I
• 38:20
  let
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  ring
• 38:20
  go
• 38:20
  into
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  hands
• 38:21
  of
• 38:21
  an
• 38:21
  elf
• 38:22
  or
• 38:22
  whatever.
• 38:23
  And
• 38:23
  you're
• 38:24
  like,
• 38:24
  what
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  heck?
• 38:24
  Where
• 38:24
  is
• 38:24
  that
• 38:25
  coming
• 38:25
  from?
• 38:26
  So
• 38:27
  in,
• 38:27
  in
• 38:27
  Tolkien's
• 38:28
  world,
• 38:29
  there's
• 38:30
  three
• 38:30
  ages,
• 38:31
  kind
• 38:31
  of
• 38:32
  like
• 38:32
  how
• 38:32
  we
• 38:32
  do
• 38:32
  BC
• 38:33
  and
• 38:33
  AD
• 38:33
  there's
• 38:34
  first
• 38:34
  Age,
• 38:34
  second
• 38:35
  and
• 38:35
  third,
• 38:35
  and
• 38:36
  there's
• 38:36
  a
• 38:36
  fourth
• 38:36
  age
• 38:36
  at
• 38:36
  one
• 38:37
  point.
• 38:37
  But
• 38:38
  these
• 38:38
  span
• 38:38
  kind
• 38:39
  of
• 38:39
  thousands
• 38:39
  of
• 38:39
  years
• 38:40
  for
• 38:40
  them.
• 38:41
  And
• 38:41
  then
• 38:42
  it
• 38:42
  goes
• 38:42
  all
• 38:42
  the
• 38:42
  way
• 38:42
  back
• 38:43
  to
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  first
• 38:43
  stage
• 38:44
  in
• 38:44
  the
• 38:44
  Legendarium
• 38:46
  where
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  stunted
• 38:49
  people.
• 38:49
  Right,
• 38:49
  we
• 38:49
  talked
• 38:50
  about
• 38:50
  that
• 38:50
  already.
• 38:50
  The
• 38:51
  Elvish
• 38:51
  language
• 38:51
  is
• 38:52
  already
• 38:52
  like,
• 38:52
  oh,
• 38:52
  we're
• 38:53
  better
• 38:53
  than
• 38:53
  you
• 38:53
  because
• 38:54
  Illumitar
• 38:54
  created
• 38:55
  us
• 38:55
  directly
• 38:55
  and
• 38:56
  you
• 38:56
  had
• 38:56
  to
• 38:56
  get
• 38:56
  adopte.
• 38:59
  But
• 38:59
  later
• 38:59
  on.
• 39:00
  So
• 39:00
  actually
• 39:00
  there's
• 39:01
  also
• 39:01
  lots
• 39:01
  of
• 39:01
  stuff
• 39:01
  so
• 39:02
  people
• 39:02
  bought.
• 39:03
  So
• 39:03
  there
• 39:04
  is
• 39:04
  stuff
• 39:04
  in
• 39:04
  Tolkien
• 39:05
  still
• 39:05
  that
• 39:05
  shows
• 39:05
  that
• 39:06
  Dwarves,
• 39:06
  some
• 39:06
  of
• 39:07
  them
• 39:07
  did
• 39:07
  side
• 39:07
  with
• 39:08
  Sauron
• 39:08
  at
• 39:09
  one
• 39:09
  point.
• 39:10
  And
• 39:10
  so.
• 39:11
  Oh,
• 39:11
  interesting.
• 39:12
  And
• 39:12
  there's
• 39:13
  also
• 39:13
  evidence
• 39:13
  to
• 39:14
  show
• 39:14
  that
• 39:14
  elves
• 39:14
  thought
• 39:15
  that
• 39:15
  like,
• 39:16
  Dwarves
• 39:16
  were
• 39:17
  sort
• 39:17
  of
• 39:17
  like
• 39:17
  orcs
• 39:18
  in
• 39:18
  a
• 39:18
  way
• 39:18
  and
• 39:19
  they
• 39:19
  would
• 39:19
  literally
• 39:19
  hunt
• 39:19
  them
• 39:20
  for
• 39:20
  sport.
• 39:21
  So
• 39:21
  there's
• 39:21
  that.
• 39:22
  Oh,
• 39:22
  yeah.
• 39:22
  I
• 39:22
  mean
• 39:23
  that.
• 39:23
  That
• 39:23
  would
• 39:23
  do
• 39:23
  it.
• 39:24
  Yeah.
• 39:25
  And
• 39:25
  so
• 39:25
  one
• 39:25
  of
• 39:25
  the
• 39:26
  main
• 39:26
  conflicts
• 39:27
  that
• 39:27
  happens
• 39:28
  is
• 39:28
  that
• 39:29
  sometime
• 39:29
  in
• 39:29
  the
• 39:30
  First
• 39:30
  Age
• 39:31
  there
• 39:31
  is
• 39:32
  a
• 39:32
  Elvish
• 39:32
  king
• 39:33
  named
• 39:33
  Thingol,
• 39:34
  okay?
• 39:35
  And
• 39:35
  he
• 39:36
  rules
• 39:37
  this
• 39:37
  realm
• 39:38
  in
• 39:39
  Middle
• 39:39
  Earth.
• 39:40
  And
• 39:41
  he
• 39:42
  makes
• 39:43
  a
• 39:45
  alliance
• 39:46
  with
• 39:46
  a
• 39:47
  dwarf
• 39:48
  kingdom
• 39:49
  called
• 39:49
  Nagarod.
• 39:50
  And
• 39:50
  they're
• 39:51
  amazing
• 39:51
  smiths,
• 39:52
  they
• 39:52
  create
• 39:52
  jewelry.
• 39:52
  And
• 39:53
  he
• 39:53
  gets
• 39:53
  a
• 39:53
  Silmaril,
• 39:54
  which
• 39:54
  is
• 39:54
  an
• 39:54
  amazing
• 39:55
  magical
• 39:55
  jewel
• 39:56
  that
• 39:56
  gives
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  lots
• 39:56
  of
• 39:57
  power.
• 39:57
  It's
• 39:57
  very
• 39:57
  sought
• 39:57
  after.
• 39:58
  And
• 39:59
  he's
• 39:59
  like,
• 39:59
  hey,
• 39:59
  what's
• 39:59
  up,
• 40:00
  dwarfs?
• 40:00
  Come
• 40:00
  make
• 40:00
  me
• 40:01
  a
• 40:01
  cool
• 40:01
  necklace
• 40:01
  so
• 40:01
  I
• 40:02
  can
• 40:02
  put
• 40:02
  the
• 40:02
  Silmaril
• 40:03
  on
• 40:03
  and
• 40:03
  I
• 40:03
  can
• 40:04
  have
• 40:04
  it.
• 40:05
  And
• 40:05
  the
• 40:05
  Dwarves
• 40:05
  are
• 40:06
  greedy.
• 40:06
  Everyone
• 40:06
  wants
• 40:07
  the
• 40:07
  Silmaril.
• 40:07
  The
• 40:08
  Thingol's
• 40:09
  also
• 40:09
  very
• 40:09
  greedy.
• 40:10
  This
• 40:11
  is
• 40:11
  what
• 40:11
  the
• 40:11
  Silmaril
• 40:12
  does
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  people.
• 40:13
  And
• 40:13
  the
• 40:13
  Dwarves
• 40:14
  are
• 40:14
  like,
• 40:14
  cool,
• 40:14
  you
• 40:14
  better
• 40:15
  actually
• 40:15
  you
• 40:16
  give
• 40:16
  us
• 40:16
  the
• 40:16
  necklace
• 40:17
  because
• 40:17
  we
• 40:17
  made
• 40:18
  it,
• 40:18
  we
• 40:18
  don't
• 40:18
  want
• 40:18
  to
• 40:18
  give
• 40:18
  it
• 40:18
  to
• 40:19
  you.
• 40:19
  And
• 40:19
  Thenol
• 40:20
  insults
• 40:21
  them,
• 40:21
  they
• 40:21
  kill
• 40:22
  Thingol.
• 40:23
  The
• 40:23
  Dwarves
• 40:24
  killed
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  Elven
• 40:24
  King.
• 40:27
  The
• 40:27
  elves,
• 40:28
  of
• 40:28
  course,
• 40:28
  kill
• 40:29
  that
• 40:29
  group
• 40:29
  of
• 40:29
  Dwarves.
• 40:30
  The
• 40:30
  Nagra
• 40:31
  dwarves
• 40:31
  now
• 40:32
  declare
• 40:33
  war
• 40:33
  on
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  elves
• 40:34
  and
• 40:35
  slaughter
• 40:35
  and
• 40:35
  kill
• 40:36
  the
• 40:36
  elves.
• 40:37
  And
• 40:37
  then
• 40:37
  there's
• 40:37
  another
• 40:37
  group
• 40:38
  of
• 40:38
  elves
• 40:38
  that
• 40:38
  come
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  kill
• 40:40
  the
• 40:40
  Dwarves.
• 40:41
  And
• 40:41
  that
• 40:41
  basically
• 40:42
  sets
• 40:42
  off
• 40:42
  the
• 40:43
  rest
• 40:43
  of
• 40:43
  the
• 40:43
  history
• 40:44
  of
• 40:44
  the
• 40:44
  Dwarven
• 40:45
  and
• 40:45
  Elvish
• 40:45
  conflict
• 40:46
  in
• 40:46
  Middle
• 40:47
  Earth.
• 40:48
  Yeah,
• 40:48
  yeah.
• 40:49
  And
• 40:49
  there's
• 40:50
  crazy
• 40:50
  stuff
• 40:50
  because
• 40:50
  they're
• 40:51
  both
• 40:51
  like
• 40:51
  good
• 40:51
  guys
• 40:52
  too.
• 40:52
  But
• 40:52
  like,
• 40:52
  then
• 40:53
  there's
• 40:53
  Times
• 40:53
  where
• 40:53
  like,
• 40:54
  you
• 40:54
  know,
• 40:54
  the
• 40:54
  clear
• 40:55
  bad
• 40:55
  guys,
• 40:55
  the
• 40:56
  Orcs
• 40:56
  and
• 40:56
  like
• 40:56
  Zauron
• 40:57
  and
• 40:57
  stuff
• 40:57
  happen
• 40:57
  and
• 40:58
  one
• 40:58
  side's
• 40:59
  like,
• 40:59
  well
• 40:59
  I'm
• 40:59
  not
• 40:59
  gonna
• 40:59
  help
• 41:00
  the
• 41:00
  other
• 41:00
  side.
• 41:00
  And
• 41:00
  then
• 41:00
  it
• 41:01
  just
• 41:01
  kind
• 41:01
  of
• 41:01
  perpetuates
• 41:02
  of
• 41:02
  the
• 41:02
  oh,
• 41:02
  you
• 41:02
  didn't
• 41:03
  help
• 41:03
  us,
• 41:03
  so
• 41:03
  now
• 41:03
  we're
• 41:03
  not
• 41:04
  gonna
• 41:04
  help
• 41:04
  you.
• 41:04
  It's
• 41:05
  very
• 41:05
  mature.
• 41:05
  I'm
• 41:05
  pretty
• 41:05
  sure
• 41:06
  the
• 41:06
  first
• 41:06
  instance
• 41:07
  of
• 41:07
  murder
• 41:09
  is
• 41:09
  the
• 41:09
  elves
• 41:10
  committed
• 41:10
  first.
• 41:11
  So.
• 41:11
  And
• 41:12
  it's
• 41:12
  against
• 41:12
  each
• 41:13
  other.
• 41:13
  So
• 41:13
  you
• 41:13
  know,
• 41:14
  like
• 41:15
  I
• 41:15
  said,
• 41:15
  there's,
• 41:15
  there's.
• 41:16
  Everyone's
• 41:17
  good,
• 41:17
  but
• 41:18
  not
• 41:18
  everyone
• 41:19
  obviously,
• 41:19
  but
• 41:19
  most.
• 41:20
  The
• 41:20
  dwarves,
• 41:20
  elves
• 41:21
  and
• 41:21
  men,
• 41:21
  everyone's
• 41:21
  good
• 41:22
  for
• 41:22
  the
• 41:22
  most
• 41:22
  part.
• 41:23
  They
• 41:23
  just
• 41:24
  do
• 41:24
  naughty
• 41:24
  things
• 41:25
  sometimes.
• 41:26
  Yeah.
• 41:26
  And
• 41:27
  sometimes
• 41:27
  don't
• 41:28
  help.
• 41:28
  Not
• 41:28
  helping
• 41:29
  is
• 41:29
  really
• 41:29
  seen
• 41:29
  as
• 41:29
  super
• 41:30
  evil
• 41:30
  and
• 41:31
  in
• 41:31
  Middle
• 41:31
  Earth
• 41:32
  stories.
• 41:33
  Yeah.
• 41:33
  And
• 41:34
  I
• 41:34
  think
• 41:34
  rightfully
• 41:34
  so.
• 41:35
  It's
• 41:35
  just
• 41:35
  hard
• 41:35
  for
• 41:35
  us
• 41:35
  to
• 41:35
  see
• 41:35
  it
• 41:36
  in
• 41:36
  our
• 41:36
  world
• 41:37
  because
• 41:37
  we're
• 41:37
  like,
• 41:37
  well
• 41:38
  why
• 41:38
  should
• 41:38
  we
• 41:38
  go
• 41:38
  help
• 41:38
  Ukraine?
• 41:39
  That's
• 41:40
  just
• 41:40
  gonna
• 41:40
  take
• 41:41
  away
• 41:41
  from
• 41:41
  me.
• 41:42
  And
• 41:42
  we're
• 41:43
  just
• 41:43
  very
• 41:43
  self
• 41:43
  centered
• 41:44
  because
• 41:44
  all
• 41:44
  you
• 41:44
  see
• 41:44
  is
• 41:44
  the
• 41:44
  world
• 41:45
  here.
• 41:45
  You
• 41:45
  don't
• 41:45
  see
• 41:45
  what's
• 41:46
  happening
• 41:46
  in
• 41:46
  Ukraine
• 41:47
  and
• 41:47
  same
• 41:48
  thing
• 41:48
  Palestine
• 41:48
  right
• 41:49
  now.
• 41:49
  And
• 41:50
  America's
• 41:51
  been
• 41:51
  historically
• 41:52
  bad
• 41:52
  at
• 41:52
  this.
• 41:52
  But
• 41:52
  America
• 41:53
  is
• 41:53
  kind
• 41:53
  of
• 41:53
  like.
• 41:55
  I'm
• 41:56
  trying
• 41:56
  to
• 41:56
  think
• 41:56
  of
• 41:56
  what
• 41:56
  it
• 41:56
  was,
• 41:57
  what
• 41:57
  is
• 41:57
  it
• 41:57
  when
• 41:59
  the
• 41:59
  elves
• 42:00
  didn't
• 42:00
  come
• 42:00
  for.
• 42:00
  There
• 42:00
  was,
• 42:01
  there's
• 42:01
  a.
• 42:03
  I'm
• 42:03
  blinking
• 42:03
  here.
• 42:04
  Imagine
• 42:05
  seeing
• 42:06
  Dwarf
• 42:06
  kingdom
• 42:06
  under
• 42:06
  attack.
• 42:07
  They're
• 42:07
  the
• 42:08
  last
• 42:08
  people
• 42:09
  standing.
• 42:09
  You're
• 42:09
  talking
• 42:10
  about
• 42:10
  the,
• 42:11
  the
• 42:12
  prologue
• 42:12
  to
• 42:12
  the
• 42:13
  Hobbit
• 42:13
  movies.
• 42:14
  They
• 42:14
  do
• 42:14
  this
• 42:15
  thing
• 42:15
  where
• 42:15
  the
• 42:15
  dwarves
• 42:16
  need
• 42:16
  help
• 42:16
  from
• 42:17
  Smaug
• 42:18
  after
• 42:18
  he's
• 42:18
  attacking
• 42:19
  and
• 42:19
  the.
• 42:19
  And
• 42:19
  the
• 42:20
  elves
• 42:20
  run
• 42:20
  away.
• 42:21
  That
• 42:21
  is
• 42:21
  a
• 42:21
  made
• 42:22
  up
• 42:22
  thing
• 42:22
  from
• 42:22
  the
• 42:22
  movie
• 42:22
  by
• 42:23
  the
• 42:23
  way.
• 42:23
  Interesting.
• 42:24
  And
• 42:24
  it's
• 42:25
  not.
• 42:25
  And
• 42:25
  also
• 42:26
  Gondor
• 42:26
  not
• 42:27
  trying
• 42:27
  to
• 42:27
  help
• 42:29
  Rohan.
• 42:30
  Also
• 42:30
  not
• 42:31
  a
• 42:31
  real
• 42:31
  thing.
• 42:32
  I
• 42:32
  knew
• 42:32
  that
• 42:32
  one.
• 42:33
  I
• 42:33
  didn't
• 42:33
  know
• 42:33
  the
• 42:33
  first
• 42:33
  one.
• 42:34
  For
• 42:34
  some
• 42:34
  reason
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  thought
• 42:34
  that
• 42:34
  was
• 42:35
  in
• 42:35
  there.
• 42:35
  But
• 42:36
  this
• 42:36
  is
• 42:36
  why
• 42:36
  you're
• 42:36
  the
• 42:37
  Tolkien
• 42:37
  expert
• 42:37
  and
• 42:37
  I'm
• 42:38
  the
• 42:38
  guy
• 42:38
  who
• 42:38
  likes
• 42:38
  Tolkien,
• 42:40
  like
• 42:40
  you
• 42:40
  said.
• 42:40
  The
• 42:40
  theme
• 42:41
  is
• 42:41
  there
• 42:41
  though.
• 42:41
  Helping
• 42:41
  people
• 42:42
  and
• 42:42
  being
• 42:42
  assistants.
• 42:43
  And
• 42:43
  like
• 42:43
  we
• 42:44
  see
• 42:44
  that
• 42:44
  we're
• 42:44
  like
• 42:44
  dang,
• 42:45
  that's
• 42:45
  really
• 42:45
  bad.
• 42:46
  And
• 42:46
  it
• 42:46
  creates
• 42:46
  conflict
• 42:47
  in
• 42:47
  the
• 42:47
  movies.
• 42:48
  Yeah,
• 42:49
  but
• 42:50
  we're
• 42:50
  go
• 42:50
  with
• 42:50
  the
• 42:50
  movie
• 42:51
  just
• 42:51
  so
• 42:51
  I
• 42:51
  can
• 42:51
  make
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  analogy.
• 42:52
  But
• 42:52
  like
• 42:52
  America
• 42:53
  are
• 42:53
  the
• 42:53
  elves
• 42:54
  a
• 42:54
  lot
• 42:54
  of
• 42:54
  the
• 42:54
  time.
• 42:54
  Right?
• 42:55
  Like
• 42:55
  Even
• 42:55
  World
• 42:56
  War
• 42:56
  II
• 42:56
  we
• 42:56
  did
• 42:56
  not
• 42:56
  want
• 42:57
  to
• 42:57
  be
• 42:57
  involved.
• 42:57
  We
• 42:57
  were
• 42:58
  just
• 42:58
  like
• 42:58
  letting.
• 42:59
  Watching
• 42:59
  other
• 42:59
  people
• 42:59
  get
• 42:59
  attacked
• 43:00
  and
• 43:00
  we're
• 43:00
  like,
• 43:00
  well,
• 43:00
  what
• 43:00
  about
• 43:01
  our
• 43:01
  needs
• 43:01
  and
• 43:02
  what
• 43:02
  about,
• 43:02
  you
• 43:02
  know,
• 43:02
  our
• 43:03
  people?
• 43:03
  We
• 43:03
  can't
• 43:04
  afford
• 43:04
  to
• 43:04
  do
• 43:04
  this
• 43:04
  until
• 43:05
  it
• 43:05
  becomes
• 43:05
  on
• 43:06
  our
• 43:06
  shores
• 43:06
  and
• 43:06
  then
• 43:07
  it's
• 43:07
  like,
• 43:07
  now
• 43:07
  it's
• 43:07
  suddenly
• 43:08
  our
• 43:08
  problem.
• 43:09
  We're
• 43:09
  the
• 43:09
  elves,
• 43:10
  you
• 43:10
  know,
• 43:10
  watching
• 43:11
  the
• 43:11
  Dwarves
• 43:11
  get
• 43:12
  attacked,
• 43:12
  but
• 43:13
  we
• 43:13
  just
• 43:13
  don't
• 43:14
  see
• 43:14
  it.
• 43:14
  So
• 43:14
  we
• 43:14
  can
• 43:15
  distance
• 43:15
  ourselves
• 43:15
  and
• 43:15
  be
• 43:16
  selfish.
• 43:16
  And
• 43:17
  we're
• 43:17
  still
• 43:17
  doing
• 43:17
  it
• 43:18
  today
• 43:18
  with
• 43:18
  Ukraine
• 43:19
  and
• 43:19
  Palestine
• 43:19
  and
• 43:19
  other
• 43:20
  conflicts
• 43:20
  and
• 43:21
  yay,
• 43:21
  America.
• 43:22
  Yeah,
• 43:23
  yeah.
• 43:23
  You
• 43:23
  see,
• 43:23
  you
• 43:24
  see
• 43:24
  my
• 43:24
  Captain
• 43:24
  America
• 43:25
  shield?
• 43:25
  I
• 43:25
  love
• 43:25
  America.
• 43:26
  Yay.
• 44:25
  And
• 44:25
  I
• 44:25
  will
• 44:25
  find
• 44:25
  the
• 44:26
  good
• 44:26
  in
• 44:26
  it.
• 44:28
  But
• 44:29
  actually,
• 44:30
  I
• 44:30
  like
• 44:30
  the
• 44:30
  elves
• 44:30
  a
• 44:30
  little
• 44:31
  bit
• 44:31
  better,
• 44:31
  knowing
• 44:31
  that
• 44:31
  that
• 44:31
  was
• 44:31
  a
• 44:32
  made
• 44:32
  up
• 44:32
  thing
• 44:32
  for
• 44:32
  the
• 44:32
  movie.
• 43:36
  But
• 44:34
  so
• 44:35
  in
• 44:35
  a
• 44:35
  lot
• 44:35
  of
• 44:35
  different
• 44:35
  IPs,
• 44:36
  you
• 44:36
  know,
• 44:36
  we
• 44:36
  mentioned
• 44:37
  Legolas
• 44:37
  and
• 44:37
  Gimli.
• 44:37
  Like,
• 44:38
  that's
• 44:38
  the
• 44:38
  big
• 44:38
  one.
• 44:38
  You
• 44:38
  see
• 44:38
  them
• 44:39
  kind
• 44:39
  of
• 44:39
  reconciling,
• 44:39
  becoming
• 44:40
  best
• 44:40
  friends,
• 44:40
  fighting
• 44:41
  together
• 44:41
  in
• 44:41
  the
• 44:41
  Lord
• 44:41
  of
• 44:41
  the
• 44:41
  Rings
• 44:42
  movies
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  books,
• 44:44
  in
• 44:45
  Delicious
• 44:46
  and
• 44:46
  Dungeon.
• 44:46
  Since
• 44:47
  I
• 44:47
  brought
• 44:47
  it
• 44:47
  up,
• 44:47
  I'll
• 44:47
  use
• 44:47
  it.
• 44:48
  You
• 44:48
  know,
• 44:49
  Our
• 44:49
  dwarf
• 44:50
  character,
• 44:51
  whose
• 44:51
  name
• 44:51
  escapes
• 44:51
  me
• 44:52
  right
• 44:52
  now,
• 44:52
  really
• 44:53
  didn't
• 44:53
  want
• 44:53
  to
• 44:53
  trust
• 44:53
  magic,
• 44:54
  really
• 44:54
  didn't
• 44:54
  want
• 44:54
  to
• 44:54
  trust
• 44:54
  the
• 44:54
  elves.
• 44:55
  But
• 44:55
  when
• 44:55
  he
• 44:55
  came
• 44:56
  to
• 44:56
  a
• 44:56
  situation
• 44:56
  where
• 44:56
  he
• 44:56
  could
• 44:57
  either
• 44:57
  help
• 44:57
  the
• 44:57
  group
• 44:58
  by
• 44:58
  allowing
• 44:59
  the
• 44:59
  magic
• 44:59
  to
• 45:00
  assist
• 45:00
  him
• 45:00
  or
• 45:01
  turn
• 45:01
  back,
• 45:02
  he
• 45:02
  learns
• 45:03
  to
• 45:03
  cooperate.
• 45:03
  He
• 45:04
  learns
• 45:04
  to,
• 45:04
  you
• 45:04
  know,
• 45:04
  work
• 45:04
  with
• 45:04
  the
• 45:05
  magic.
• 45:05
  And
• 45:05
  we
• 45:05
  have
• 45:05
  these
• 45:05
  big
• 45:06
  stories
• 45:06
  of
• 45:06
  reconciliation
• 45:07
  and
• 45:08
  the
• 45:08
  inheritance
• 45:08
  cycle.
• 45:09
  The
• 45:09
  elves
• 45:09
  and
• 45:09
  dwarves
• 45:09
  don't
• 45:10
  like
• 45:10
  each
• 45:10
  other,
• 45:11
  but
• 45:11
  our
• 45:11
  main
• 45:11
  character,
• 45:12
  Aragorn,
• 45:12
  is
• 45:12
  being
• 45:13
  mentored
• 45:14
  from
• 45:14
  a
• 45:15
  priest
• 45:15
  in
• 45:16
  the
• 45:16
  Dwarven.
• 45:16
  Thank
• 45:17
  me.
• 45:18
  You
• 45:18
  know,
• 45:18
  he's
• 45:19
  going
• 45:19
  to
• 45:19
  the
• 45:19
  Dwarves
• 45:19
  and
• 45:20
  learning
• 45:20
  about
• 45:20
  philosophy,
• 45:21
  different
• 45:21
  stuff,
• 45:21
  and
• 45:21
  getting
• 45:21
  help
• 45:22
  from
• 45:22
  them.
• 45:22
  But
• 45:22
  also
• 45:23
  he's
• 45:23
  training
• 45:24
  in
• 45:24
  magic
• 45:25
  from
• 45:25
  the
• 45:25
  elves.
• 45:26
  So
• 45:26
  we
• 45:27
  see
• 45:27
  this
• 45:27
  cooperation
• 45:28
  when
• 45:28
  it
• 45:28
  needs
• 45:28
  to
• 45:28
  happen,
• 45:29
  and
• 45:29
  it
• 45:29
  comes
• 45:29
  over
• 45:30
  and
• 45:30
  over
• 45:30
  and
• 45:30
  over
• 45:30
  again.
• 45:31
  It's
• 45:31
  just
• 45:31
  so
• 45:31
  common.
• 45:32
  We
• 45:32
  pit
• 45:32
  them
• 45:33
  against
• 45:33
  each
• 45:33
  other
• 45:33
  just
• 45:33
  so
• 45:33
  we
• 45:33
  can
• 45:34
  have
• 45:34
  them
• 45:34
  learn
• 45:34
  to
• 45:34
  cooperate.
• 45:35
  Like
• 45:35
  we
• 45:35
  mentioned
• 45:36
  earlier.
• 45:37
  Nick,
• 45:37
  why
• 45:38
  does
• 45:38
  this
• 45:38
  keep
• 45:38
  happening
• 45:38
  in
• 45:39
  our
• 45:39
  fantasy
• 45:39
  stories?
• 45:39
  Why
• 45:39
  do
• 45:39
  we
• 45:40
  keep
• 45:40
  wanting
• 45:40
  to
• 45:40
  pit
• 45:40
  them
• 45:41
  against
• 45:41
  each
• 45:41
  other
• 45:41
  just
• 45:41
  to
• 45:42
  make
• 45:42
  them
• 45:42
  reconcile
• 45:43
  and
• 45:43
  work
• 45:43
  together?
• 45:44
  My
• 45:44
  assumption
• 45:44
  is
• 45:45
  probably
• 45:45
  that
• 45:45
  it
• 45:46
  has
• 45:46
  roots
• 45:46
  in
• 45:46
  Tolkien.
• 45:48
  And
• 45:48
  it's
• 45:49
  probably
• 45:49
  also
• 45:49
  just
• 45:49
  a
• 45:50
  such
• 45:50
  a
• 45:51
  pervasive
• 45:52
  problem
• 45:52
  that's
• 45:53
  been
• 45:53
  a
• 45:53
  part
• 45:53
  of
• 45:53
  human
• 45:53
  history
• 45:54
  is
• 45:54
  that
• 45:54
  there's
• 45:55
  always
• 45:55
  been
• 45:55
  some
• 45:55
  sort
• 45:56
  of
• 45:56
  xenophobia,
• 45:58
  whatever
• 45:58
  it's
• 45:58
  informed
• 45:59
  by,
• 46:00
  and
• 46:01
  in,
• 46:01
  you
• 46:02
  know,
• 46:02
  a
• 46:02
  lot
• 46:02
  of
• 46:02
  these
• 46:03
  fictional
• 46:04
  worlds,
• 46:05
  that's
• 46:05
  where
• 46:05
  humans
• 46:06
  kind
• 46:06
  of
• 46:06
  have
• 46:06
  a
• 46:06
  safe
• 46:06
  split,
• 46:07
  safe
• 46:08
  place
• 46:08
  to
• 46:08
  wrestle
• 46:09
  with
• 46:09
  those
• 46:09
  questions.
• 46:10
  And,
• 46:11
  you
• 46:11
  know,
• 46:11
  if
• 46:11
  it's
• 46:12
  there
• 46:13
  and
• 46:13
  people
• 46:13
  want
• 46:14
  that
• 46:14
  in
• 46:14
  the
• 46:14
  world,
• 46:15
  you
• 46:16
  know,
• 46:16
  use
• 46:17
  elves
• 46:17
  and
• 46:17
  dwarves
• 46:18
  to
• 46:18
  create
• 46:19
  the
• 46:19
  conflict
• 46:19
  and
• 46:19
  show
• 46:20
  some
• 46:20
  reconciliation.
• 46:21
  So
• 46:22
  hopefully
• 46:22
  that
• 46:22
  kind
• 46:23
  of
• 46:23
  reflects
• 46:23
  back
• 46:23
  into
• 46:23
  our
• 46:24
  own
• 46:24
  world.
• 46:25
  Yeah,
• 46:25
  yeah,
• 46:26
  it's
• 46:27
  Interesting.
• 46:27
  So
• 46:27
  something
• 46:27
  sci
• 46:28
  fi
• 46:28
  does
• 46:28
  a
• 46:28
  lot
• 46:28
  that
• 46:29
  will
• 46:29
  pointed
• 46:30
  out
• 46:30
  for
• 46:30
  me
• 46:30
  that
• 46:30
  helps
• 46:31
  me
• 46:31
  is
• 46:31
  it
• 46:32
  often
• 46:32
  makes
• 46:32
  you
• 46:33
  ask
• 46:33
  how
• 46:33
  you
• 46:33
  treat
• 46:34
  the
• 46:34
  other
• 46:34
  or
• 46:35
  what
• 46:35
  makes
• 46:35
  us
• 46:35
  human
• 46:36
  compared
• 46:36
  to
• 46:36
  these
• 46:37
  other
• 46:37
  things.
• 46:38
  What
• 46:38
  I
• 46:38
  think
• 46:38
  fantasy
• 46:39
  does
• 46:39
  that's
• 46:39
  a
• 46:39
  little
• 46:39
  bit
• 46:39
  different
• 46:40
  with
• 46:40
  some
• 46:40
  of
• 46:40
  these
• 46:40
  races.
• 46:41
  Is
• 46:41
  it
• 46:41
  like
• 46:41
  you
• 46:42
  talk
• 46:42
  about
• 46:42
  xenophobia,
• 46:42
  it
• 46:43
  makes
• 46:43
  us
• 46:43
  ask
• 46:43
  this
• 46:43
  question
• 46:44
  of
• 46:44
  why
• 46:45
  do
• 46:45
  we
• 46:46
  other
• 46:46
  not
• 46:46
  like,
• 46:46
  how
• 46:47
  do
• 46:47
  we
• 46:47
  treat
• 46:47
  the
• 46:47
  other.
• 46:47
  But
• 46:47
  I
• 46:47
  think
• 46:48
  a
• 46:48
  lot
• 46:48
  of
• 46:48
  times
• 46:48
  of
• 46:48
  fantasy,
• 46:49
  it's
• 46:49
  asking
• 46:49
  more
• 46:50
  why
• 46:50
  rather
• 46:50
  than
• 46:51
  how.
• 46:52
  And
• 46:53
  I
• 46:53
  think
• 46:53
  part
• 46:53
  of
• 46:53
  it
• 46:53
  probably
• 46:53
  comes
• 46:54
  from
• 46:54
  what
• 46:54
  you
• 46:54
  were
• 46:54
  talking
• 46:54
  about
• 46:54
  earlier,
• 46:54
  where
• 46:55
  certain
• 46:55
  ones
• 46:56
  get
• 46:56
  grouped
• 46:56
  with
• 46:57
  some
• 46:57
  of
• 46:57
  these
• 46:57
  racial
• 46:57
  stereotypes
• 46:58
  like
• 46:58
  you
• 46:58
  remember
• 46:59
  talking
• 46:59
  about
• 46:59
  with
• 46:59
  the
• 46:59
  dwarves.
• 47:00
  And
• 47:00
  I
• 47:01
  know
• 47:01
  you
• 47:01
  see
• 47:01
  that
• 47:01
  with
• 47:01
  some
• 47:01
  of
• 47:01
  the
• 47:02
  dark
• 47:02
  elves
• 47:02
  stuff
• 47:02
  and
• 47:03
  certain
• 47:03
  things
• 47:04
  that
• 47:04
  we're
• 47:04
  not
• 47:04
  going
• 47:04
  to
• 47:04
  go
• 47:04
  there
• 47:06
  Marvel,
• 47:08
  but
• 47:09
  we
• 47:09
  see
• 47:10
  some
• 47:10
  of
• 47:10
  this
• 47:10
  and
• 47:11
  I
• 47:11
  think
• 47:11
  because
• 47:11
  it's
• 47:12
  been
• 47:12
  used
• 47:12
  to
• 47:12
  depict
• 47:13
  race
• 47:13
  poorly,
• 47:14
  it's
• 47:14
  just
• 47:14
  really
• 47:14
  natural
• 47:15
  to
• 47:15
  use
• 47:15
  that
• 47:15
  same
• 47:16
  story
• 47:17
  that,
• 47:17
  you
• 47:17
  know,
• 47:17
  where
• 47:18
  we
• 47:18
  depicted
• 47:18
  things
• 47:18
  in
• 47:19
  a
• 47:19
  way
• 47:19
  that
• 47:19
  was
• 47:19
  evil.
• 47:20
  We
• 47:20
  now
• 47:20
  use
• 47:20
  that
• 47:20
  same
• 47:21
  story,
• 47:21
  reconciling
• 47:22
  the
• 47:23
  medium
• 47:24
  by
• 47:24
  asking
• 47:25
  why
• 47:25
  we
• 47:25
  do
• 47:25
  this
• 47:26
  in
• 47:26
  the
• 47:26
  first
• 47:26
  place.
• 47:27
  Yeah,
• 47:27
  I
• 47:27
  think
• 47:27
  too,
• 47:28
  the
• 47:29
  elves
• 47:29
  are
• 47:29
  kind
• 47:30
  of
• 47:30
  like
• 47:30
  this
• 47:31
  on
• 47:31
  the
• 47:32
  other
• 47:32
  end
• 47:32
  that,
• 47:32
  you
• 47:32
  know,
• 47:32
  the
• 47:33
  elves
• 47:33
  are
• 47:33
  like
• 47:33
  supermodels,
• 47:34
  perfect,
• 47:34
  quote,
• 47:35
  unquote,
• 47:35
  perfect
• 47:36
  specimens.
• 47:37
  And
• 47:37
  dwarves,
• 47:37
  on
• 47:37
  the
• 47:37
  other
• 47:38
  hand,
• 47:38
  are
• 47:38
  like
• 47:38
  hairy,
• 47:39
  short,
• 47:40
  you
• 47:40
  know,
• 47:40
  not
• 47:40
  as
• 47:41
  attractive
• 47:42
  features.
• 47:43
  And
• 47:43
  so
• 47:43
  I
• 47:43
  think
• 47:43
  it's
• 47:43
  a
• 47:44
  place
• 47:44
  where
• 47:45
  there
• 47:45
  is
• 47:45
  no
• 47:45
  such
• 47:45
  thing
• 47:46
  as
• 47:46
  the
• 47:46
  perfect
• 47:46
  person.
• 47:47
  Right.
• 47:47
  There's
• 47:48
  no
• 47:48
  like,
• 47:48
  that
• 47:49
  doesn't
• 47:49
  exist.
• 47:49
  And
• 47:50
  so
• 47:50
  to
• 47:50
  have
• 47:50
  this
• 47:50
  weird
• 47:50
  happy
• 47:51
  medium
• 47:52
  in
• 47:52
  between
• 47:53
  through
• 47:53
  this
• 47:53
  reconciliation,
• 47:55
  you
• 47:55
  know,
• 47:55
  kind
• 47:56
  of,
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  think,
• 47:56
  trying
• 47:57
  to
• 47:57
  capture
• 47:57
  something
• 47:58
  that's
• 47:58
  more
• 47:59
  real.
• 48:00
  Yeah,
• 48:00
  yeah,
• 48:01
  I
• 48:02
  know
• 48:02
  all
• 48:02
  that's
• 48:03
  interesting.
• 48:04
  So,
• 48:04
  you
• 48:05
  know,
• 48:05
  I
• 48:05
  think
• 48:05
  most
• 48:05
  of
• 48:05
  our
• 48:05
  listeners
• 48:06
  know
• 48:06
  that
• 48:06
  I
• 48:06
  also
• 48:06
  am
• 48:06
  part
• 48:07
  of
• 48:07
  another
• 48:07
  podcast,
• 48:08
  the
• 48:08
  Whole
• 48:08
  Church
• 48:08
  Podcast,
• 48:09
  and
• 48:09
  I
• 48:09
  care
• 48:09
  deeply
• 48:10
  about
• 48:10
  the
• 48:10
  church
• 48:10
  and
• 48:10
  church
• 48:10
  unity,
• 48:11
  that
• 48:11
  kind
• 48:11
  of
• 48:11
  stuff.
• 48:11
  I've
• 48:12
  been
• 48:12
  working
• 48:12
  on
• 48:12
  ecumenical
• 48:13
  stuff
• 48:13
  with
• 48:13
  that
• 48:13
  podcast
• 48:14
  for
• 48:14
  like
• 48:15
  eight
• 48:15
  or
• 48:15
  nine
• 48:15
  years
• 48:15
  now
• 48:16
  or
• 48:16
  something
• 48:16
  crazy.
• 48:16
  Like
• 48:17
  basically
• 48:17
  a
• 48:17
  decade,
• 48:18
  like
• 48:18
  huge
• 48:19
  chunk
• 48:19
  of
• 48:19
  my
• 48:19
  life
• 48:19
  has
• 48:20
  been
• 48:20
  dedicated
• 48:20
  to
• 48:20
  this.
• 48:21
  So
• 48:21
  when
• 48:21
  I
• 48:21
  see
• 48:22
  some
• 48:22
  of
• 48:22
  the
• 48:22
  stuff
• 48:22
  we
• 48:22
  see
• 48:22
  in
• 48:22
  these
• 48:23
  fantasy
• 48:23
  stories,
• 48:23
  I
• 48:24
  can't
• 48:24
  help
• 48:24
  but
• 48:24
  think
• 48:24
  of
• 48:24
  like,
• 48:25
  how
• 48:25
  the
• 48:25
  church
• 48:25
  in
• 48:25
  America
• 48:26
  right
• 48:26
  now
• 48:26
  is
• 48:27
  othering
• 48:27
  immigrants
• 48:28
  or
• 48:28
  how
• 48:29
  our
• 48:29
  progressive
• 48:30
  church
• 48:30
  in
• 48:30
  America
• 48:30
  is
• 48:30
  othering
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  conservative
• 48:31
  church
• 48:32
  in
• 48:32
  America
• 48:32
  that's
• 48:32
  othering
• 48:33
  the
• 48:33
  progressive
• 48:33
  because
• 48:34
  they're
• 48:34
  not
• 48:34
  real
• 48:34
  Christians.
• 48:35
  You
• 48:35
  know,
• 48:35
  we're
• 48:36
  just
• 48:36
  using
• 48:36
  the
• 48:36
  like
• 48:36
  the
• 48:37
  true
• 48:37
  Scotsman
• 48:37
  argument
• 48:37
  back
• 48:38
  and
• 48:38
  forth
• 48:38
  because
• 48:39
  you're
• 48:39
  not
• 48:39
  a
• 48:39
  real
• 48:39
  Christian
• 48:39
  because
• 48:40
  you
• 48:40
  don't
• 48:40
  love
• 48:40
  immigrants
• 48:40
  and
• 48:40
  you're
• 48:41
  not
• 48:41
  a
• 48:41
  real
• 48:41
  Christian
• 48:41
  because
• 48:42
  you
• 48:42
  love
• 48:42
  gay
• 48:42
  people
• 48:43
  too
• 48:43
  much
• 48:43
  and
• 48:43
  you're
• 48:43
  not
• 48:43
  a
• 48:44
  real
• 48:44
  Christian
• 48:44
  because
• 48:44
  you
• 48:45
  know,
• 48:45
  like
• 48:45
  we
• 48:45
  always
• 48:45
  do
• 48:46
  this
• 48:46
  othering,
• 48:46
  we
• 48:46
  always
• 48:47
  do
• 48:47
  this
• 48:47
  like
• 48:47
  pushing
• 48:47
  people
• 48:48
  away.
• 48:48
  And
• 48:48
  the
• 48:48
  church
• 48:49
  has
• 48:49
  become
• 48:49
  so
• 48:49
  fractured.
• 48:51
  Like
• 48:52
  to
• 48:52
  me
• 48:52
  it
• 48:52
  breaks
• 48:52
  my
• 48:52
  heart
• 48:53
  and
• 48:53
  that's
• 48:53
  why
• 48:53
  I
• 48:53
  care
• 48:53
  so
• 48:53
  much
• 48:54
  about
• 48:54
  this.
• 48:54
  But
• 48:55
  when
• 48:56
  I
• 48:56
  look
• 48:56
  at
• 48:56
  this
• 48:56
  stuff
• 48:56
  in
• 48:57
  fantasy
• 48:57
  and
• 48:57
  how
• 48:58
  frequently
• 48:59
  the
• 49:00
  conflicted
• 49:00
  elves
• 49:01
  and
• 49:01
  dwarves
• 49:01
  can
• 49:01
  come
• 49:02
  together,
• 49:03
  I
• 49:03
  gotta
• 49:03
  believe
• 49:04
  there's
• 49:04
  something
• 49:04
  the
• 49:04
  church
• 49:04
  can
• 49:04
  learn.
• 49:05
  Nick,
• 49:06
  what's
• 49:06
  your
• 49:06
  wisdom
• 49:07
  for
• 49:07
  the
• 49:08
  church
• 49:08
  from
• 49:08
  the
• 49:09
  elf
• 49:09
  dwarf
• 49:09
  conflict?
• 49:10
  That
• 49:10
  they
• 49:10
  need
• 49:10
  to
• 49:10
  look
• 49:10
  at
• 49:11
  one.
• 49:12
  Of
• 49:12
  the
• 49:12
  things
• 49:12
  too.
• 49:12
  And
• 49:12
  I'm
• 49:13
  going,
• 49:13
  you
• 49:13
  know,
• 49:13
  Tolkien
• 49:14
  has
• 49:14
  an
• 49:14
  essay
• 49:15
  called
• 49:15
  On
• 49:15
  Fairy
• 49:16
  Stories
• 49:16
  where
• 49:16
  he
• 49:17
  basically
• 49:17
  makes
• 49:17
  a
• 49:17
  whole
• 49:18
  argument
• 49:18
  about
• 49:18
  why
• 49:18
  fantasy
• 49:19
  is
• 49:19
  a
• 49:19
  legitimate
• 49:20
  art
• 49:20
  form.
• 49:21
  There's
• 49:21
  three
• 49:21
  main
• 49:21
  things
• 49:22
  he
• 49:22
  said
• 49:22
  it
• 49:22
  does
• 49:22
  it's
• 49:23
  function.
• 49:23
  Fantasies,
• 49:24
  functions.
• 49:24
  One,
• 49:24
  we
• 49:25
  go
• 49:25
  to
• 49:25
  escape
• 49:25
  because
• 49:26
  the
• 49:26
  world
• 49:26
  sucks.
• 49:27
  Yeah.
• 49:28
  And
• 49:28
  we
• 49:28
  need,
• 49:28
  we
• 49:28
  need
• 49:28
  a
• 49:29
  breather.
• 49:30
  Two,
• 49:30
  we
• 49:31
  get
• 49:31
  recovery.
• 49:32
  So
• 49:32
  what
• 49:32
  that
• 49:32
  means
• 49:33
  is
• 49:33
  like
• 49:34
  things
• 49:35
  in
• 49:35
  the
• 49:35
  world
• 49:35
  where
• 49:35
  like
• 49:36
  man,
• 49:36
  life
• 49:36
  sucks.
• 49:36
  But
• 49:37
  then
• 49:37
  we
• 49:38
  see
• 49:38
  Legolas
• 49:39
  and
• 49:39
  Gimli
• 49:40
  become
• 49:40
  best
• 49:40
  friends
• 49:41
  and
• 49:41
  go
• 49:41
  to
• 49:42
  freaking
• 49:42
  Ballinor
• 49:43
  together,
• 49:44
  which
• 49:45
  normally
• 49:45
  wouldn't
• 49:45
  happen.
• 49:46
  You're
• 49:46
  like,
• 49:46
  dang,
• 49:47
  that's
• 49:47
  awesome.
• 49:47
  I
• 49:48
  didn't
• 49:48
  know
• 49:48
  friendships
• 49:48
  could
• 49:48
  be
• 49:49
  like
• 49:49
  that.
• 49:49
  Yeah.
• 49:50
  And
• 49:50
  then
• 49:50
  it's
• 49:50
  consolation
• 49:51
  where
• 49:51
  we're
• 49:51
  consoled,
• 49:52
  we're
• 49:52
  comforted
• 49:53
  by
• 49:54
  that.
• 49:54
  So
• 49:54
  that
• 49:54
  when
• 49:55
  we
• 49:55
  return
• 49:55
  to
• 49:55
  our
• 49:56
  world
• 49:56
  we
• 49:57
  have
• 49:57
  this
• 49:57
  kind
• 49:57
  of
• 49:58
  new
• 49:58
  set
• 49:59
  of
• 49:59
  eyes
• 49:59
  to
• 50:00
  try
• 50:00
  to
• 50:00
  manifest,
• 50:01
  you
• 50:02
  know,
• 50:02
  better
• 50:02
  realities
• 50:03
  in
• 50:03
  our
• 50:03
  world.
• 50:04
  And
• 50:04
  so
• 50:04
  I
• 50:04
  think
• 50:05
  that
• 50:06
  this
• 50:06
  racial
• 50:06
  reconciliation
• 50:08
  between
• 50:08
  elves
• 50:09
  and
• 50:09
  dwarves,
• 50:09
  specifically
• 50:10
  in
• 50:10
  Tolkien,
• 50:10
  and
• 50:10
  probably
• 50:11
  influence
• 50:11
  in
• 50:12
  other,
• 50:12
  you
• 50:12
  know,
• 50:13
  intellectual
• 50:13
  properties,
• 50:14
  is
• 50:15
  that
• 50:15
  if
• 50:16
  we
• 50:16
  have
• 50:16
  fictional
• 50:17
  examples
• 50:18
  that
• 50:19
  do
• 50:19
  that,
• 50:20
  that
• 50:20
  do
• 50:20
  that,
• 50:20
  well,
• 50:21
  there's
• 50:22
  hope
• 50:22
  that
• 50:22
  we
• 50:23
  can
• 50:23
  do
• 50:23
  that
• 50:23
  in
• 50:24
  our
• 50:24
  world.
• 50:25
  Yeah,
• 50:25
  man,
• 50:25
  I
• 50:26
  could
• 50:26
  shout
• 50:26
  hallelujah.
• 50:28
  And
• 50:28
  I
• 50:28
  think
• 50:29
  that's.
• 50:29
  And
• 50:30
  if
• 50:30
  you
• 50:30
  guys
• 50:30
  love
• 50:30
  the
• 50:31
  Bible,
• 50:31
  that's
• 50:31
  a
• 50:32
  lot
• 50:32
  of
• 50:32
  the
• 50:32
  points
• 50:32
  of
• 50:32
  our
• 50:33
  apocalyptic
• 50:34
  literature
• 50:34
  and
• 50:34
  our
• 50:35
  prophecy
• 50:35
  literature
• 50:36
  and
• 50:36
  biblical
• 50:37
  work
• 50:37
  is
• 50:37
  like.
• 50:38
  Because
• 50:38
  yeah,
• 50:38
  life
• 50:39
  sucks
• 50:39
  right
• 50:39
  now.
• 50:39
  Let
• 50:39
  me
• 50:40
  tell
• 50:40
  you
• 50:40
  the
• 50:40
  future.
• 50:40
  And
• 50:40
  a
• 50:41
  lot
• 50:41
  of
• 50:41
  times
• 50:41
  there's
• 50:41
  a
• 50:41
  lot
• 50:41
  of
• 50:41
  violence
• 50:42
  and
• 50:42
  crazy
• 50:42
  stuff
• 50:42
  in
• 50:42
  the
• 50:42
  Bible
• 50:43
  that
• 50:43
  I'm
• 50:43
  like,
• 50:43
  some
• 50:43
  of
• 50:43
  that
• 50:44
  I
• 50:44
  don't
• 50:44
  love.
• 50:44
  I
• 50:44
  don't
• 50:45
  agree
• 50:45
  with
• 50:45
  all
• 50:45
  of
• 50:45
  it.
• 50:45
  Right.
• 50:46
  But
• 50:47
  the
• 50:47
  point
• 50:47
  of
• 50:47
  so
• 50:48
  much
• 50:48
  of
• 50:48
  it,
• 50:48
  especially
• 50:48
  like
• 50:49
  if
• 50:49
  you
• 50:49
  look
• 50:49
  at
• 50:49
  the
• 50:49
  Book
• 50:49
  of
• 50:49
  Daniel,
• 50:50
  which
• 50:50
  I'm
• 50:50
  really
• 50:50
  passionate
• 50:51
  about,
• 50:51
  is
• 50:52
  that
• 50:52
  there's
• 50:52
  hope.
• 50:52
  And
• 50:53
  I
• 50:53
  think
• 50:53
  if
• 50:54
  that's
• 50:54
  what
• 50:54
  you
• 50:54
  get
• 50:54
  from
• 50:55
  these
• 50:55
  stories,
• 50:55
  that's
• 50:56
  worthwhile.
• 50:57
  Because
• 50:57
  I
• 50:57
  think
• 50:57
  one
• 50:58
  of
• 50:58
  the
• 50:58
  reasons
• 50:59
  why
• 50:59
  the
• 50:59
  church
• 50:59
  is
• 50:59
  so
• 51:00
  divided
• 51:00
  is
• 51:01
  because
• 51:01
  of
• 51:01
  Fear,
• 51:01
  we
• 51:02
  fear
• 51:02
  the
• 51:02
  other.
• 51:02
  Xenophobia
• 51:03
  again.
• 51:03
  Right?
• 51:04
  We
• 51:04
  have
• 51:05
  this
• 51:05
  fear
• 51:05
  of
• 51:05
  like,
• 51:05
  oh,
• 51:06
  you're
• 51:06
  not
• 51:06
  really
• 51:06
  Christians
• 51:07
  and
• 51:07
  if
• 51:07
  people
• 51:07
  believe
• 51:07
  what
• 51:08
  you're
• 51:08
  saying,
• 51:08
  then
• 51:08
  all
• 51:08
  of
• 51:08
  a
• 51:08
  sudden
• 51:09
  they're
• 51:09
  going
• 51:09
  to
• 51:09
  burn
• 51:09
  in
• 51:09
  hell
• 51:09
  for
• 51:09
  eternity.
• 51:10
  Or
• 51:10
  you're
• 51:11
  not
• 51:11
  really
• 51:11
  Christians
• 51:11
  and
• 51:11
  people
• 51:12
  believe
• 51:12
  what
• 51:12
  you're
• 51:12
  saying,
• 51:12
  they'll
• 51:13
  never
• 51:13
  know
• 51:13
  the
• 51:13
  real
• 51:13
  Jesus
• 51:14
  and
• 51:14
  maybe
• 51:15
  legitimate
• 51:15
  fears.
• 51:16
  Right.
• 51:17
  But
• 51:17
  if
• 51:17
  we
• 51:17
  let
• 51:17
  fear
• 51:18
  drown
• 51:18
  out
• 51:18
  hope,
• 51:19
  then
• 51:19
  reconciliation
• 51:20
  becomes
• 51:20
  impossible.
• 51:21
  So
• 51:21
  I
• 51:21
  think
• 51:21
  seeing
• 51:22
  these
• 51:22
  stories
• 51:22
  of
• 51:22
  fantasy
• 51:23
  and
• 51:23
  having
• 51:23
  this
• 51:23
  hope
• 51:24
  of
• 51:24
  reconciliation
• 51:26
  can
• 51:26
  probably
• 51:26
  speak
• 51:26
  a
• 51:27
  lot
• 51:27
  more
• 51:27
  than
• 51:27
  us
• 51:27
  trying
• 51:27
  to
• 51:27
  hash
• 51:28
  out
• 51:28
  our
• 51:28
  arguments
• 51:28
  that
• 51:29
  we're
• 51:29
  never
• 51:29
  going
• 51:30
  to
• 51:30
  agree
• 51:30
  on
• 51:30
  anyway.
• 51:31
  Yeah.
• 51:32
  And
• 51:32
  the
• 51:32
  blame
• 51:33
  is
• 51:33
  usually
• 51:34
  a
• 51:34
  lot.
• 51:35
  We
• 51:35
  carry
• 51:36
  our
• 51:36
  groups
• 51:37
  and
• 51:37
  us
• 51:38
  carry
• 51:38
  a
• 51:38
  lot
• 51:38
  of
• 51:39
  the
• 51:39
  blame
• 51:40
  that
• 51:40
  we
• 51:40
  don't
• 51:40
  want
• 51:40
  to
• 51:41
  admit,
• 51:42
  because
• 51:42
  elves
• 51:42
  and
• 51:42
  dwarves,
• 51:43
  usually
• 51:43
  the
• 51:43
  conflict
• 51:44
  is
• 51:44
  rooted
• 51:44
  in
• 51:45
  both
• 51:45
  sides
• 51:46
  simultaneously,
• 51:47
  and
• 51:48
  then
• 51:48
  it
• 51:48
  just
• 51:48
  festers
• 51:49
  and
• 51:49
  grows,
• 51:50
  man.
• 51:50
  Good
• 51:51
  stuff.
• 51:52
  Well,
• 51:53
  did
• 51:53
  you
• 51:53
  have.
• 51:54
  I
• 51:54
  don't
• 51:55
  have
• 51:55
  anywhere
• 51:55
  to
• 51:55
  go
• 51:55
  with
• 51:55
  that.
• 51:56
  I
• 51:56
  think
• 51:56
  it's
• 51:57
  good.
• 51:57
  Poignant
• 51:58
  truth.
• 51:59
  Did
• 51:59
  you
• 51:59
  have
• 52:00
  anything
• 52:00
  else
• 52:00
  you
• 52:00
  want
• 52:00
  to
• 52:00
  add
• 52:01
  about
• 52:01
  this
• 52:01
  or
• 52:01
  just
• 52:02
  about
• 52:02
  elves
• 52:02
  and
• 52:02
  dwarves
• 52:02
  in
• 52:02
  general
• 52:03
  before
• 52:03
  we
• 52:03
  head
• 52:03
  to
• 52:04
  our
• 52:04
  wrap
• 52:04
  up
• 52:04
  here?
• 52:04
  No,
• 52:05
  I
• 52:05
  just
• 52:05
  said
• 52:06
  I
• 52:06
  alluded
• 52:07
  to
• 52:07
  Gimli
• 52:08
  and
• 52:08
  Legolas
• 52:09
  going
• 52:09
  to
• 52:09
  Valinor,
• 52:10
  which
• 52:10
  is
• 52:10
  basically
• 52:11
  kind
• 52:11
  of
• 52:11
  like
• 52:11
  heaven.
• 52:12
  And
• 52:12
  so
• 52:13
  there's
• 52:13
  this
• 52:13
  idea
• 52:14
  of
• 52:14
  like,
• 52:15
  we
• 52:15
  should
• 52:15
  all
• 52:15
  be
• 52:16
  heading
• 52:16
  to
• 52:17
  the
• 52:17
  Good
• 52:17
  place,
• 52:18
  a
• 52:18
  better
• 52:19
  world.
• 52:20
  Like,
• 52:20
  let's
• 52:21
  do
• 52:21
  it.
• 52:21
  Like
• 52:21
  it's
• 52:22
  there.
• 52:22
  We've
• 52:22
  got.
• 52:23
  We've
• 52:23
  got
• 52:23
  examples.
• 52:24
  Yeah,
• 52:24
  yeah.
• 52:25
  What's
• 52:25
  up?
• 52:25
  Is
• 52:26
  it
• 52:26
  Baron
• 52:27
  and
• 52:27
  Luthien?
• 52:27
  Is
• 52:27
  that
• 52:28
  the
• 52:28
  story?
• 52:28
  I'm
• 52:28
  thinking
• 52:29
  of
• 52:29
  where
• 52:29
  the.
• 52:29
  The
• 52:29
  human
• 52:30
  and
• 52:30
  the
• 52:30
  elf
• 52:30
  are
• 52:30
  talking
• 52:31
  about
• 52:31
  eternity
• 52:31
  kind
• 52:32
  of
• 52:32
  stuff.
• 52:33
  Oh,
• 52:33
  that
• 52:33
  is
• 52:34
  the
• 52:34
  Athrobath.
• 52:35
  That
• 52:35
  is
• 52:35
  Finrod.
• 52:36
  And
• 52:38
  I
• 52:38
  don't
• 52:38
  know,
• 52:38
  I'm
• 52:39
  terrible
• 52:39
  at
• 52:39
  names.
• 52:39
  Andreth.
• 52:40
  Maybe
• 52:41
  it
• 52:41
  might
• 52:41
  be
• 52:42
  Andreth
• 52:43
  Finra.
• 52:43
  Google
• 52:43
  will
• 52:44
  know,
• 52:44
  guys,
• 52:44
  I
• 52:44
  promise.
• 52:45
  Google
• 52:45
  knows.
• 52:45
  Yeah.
• 52:47
  Well,
• 52:47
  all
• 52:47
  right
• 52:47
  then,
• 52:48
  let's
• 52:48
  wrap
• 52:48
  this
• 52:48
  up.
• 52:49
  I'm
• 52:50
  excited
• 52:50
  to
• 52:50
  just
• 52:51
  kind
• 52:51
  of
• 52:51
  jump
• 52:51
  in
• 52:51
  the
• 52:51
  end
• 52:51
  of
• 52:51
  this.
• 52:51
  And
• 52:52
  for
• 52:52
  our
• 52:52
  bonus
• 52:52
  question,
• 52:53
  right.
• 52:53
  We
• 52:54
  always
• 52:54
  do
• 52:54
  a
• 52:54
  bonus
• 52:54
  question
• 52:55
  for
• 52:55
  our
• 52:55
  patrons
• 52:56
  or
• 52:56
  captivate
• 52:57
  listeners
• 52:57
  or
• 52:57
  Apple
• 52:57
  podcast
• 52:58
  sponsors.
• 52:58
  And
• 52:58
  today's
• 52:59
  a
• 52:59
  fun
• 52:59
  one.
• 53:00
  We're
• 53:01
  going
• 53:01
  to
• 53:01
  say
• 53:02
  the
• 53:02
  question
• 53:02
  simple.
• 53:04
  What
• 53:04
  good
• 53:04
  can
• 53:04
  be
• 53:04
  found
• 53:05
  in
• 53:05
  ogre
• 53:05
  society?
• 53:06
  It's
• 53:06
  a
• 53:06
  Finding
• 53:06
  the
• 53:06
  Good
• 53:07
  bonus
• 53:07
  episode.
• 53:09
  Yeah.
• 53:09
  Where
• 53:10
  can
• 53:10
  we
• 53:10
  find
• 53:10
  the
• 53:10
  good
• 53:10
  in
• 53:11
  ogres?
• 53:12
  But
• 53:12
  before
• 53:12
  we
• 53:12
  get
• 53:13
  to
• 53:13
  that,
• 53:13
  we're
• 53:13
  gonna
• 53:13
  do
• 53:14
  some
• 53:14
  recommendations.
• 53:15
  Nick,
• 53:15
  do
• 53:15
  you
• 53:15
  wanna
• 53:15
  go
• 53:15
  first
• 53:16
  or
• 53:16
  do
• 53:16
  you
• 53:16
  want
• 53:16
  me
• 53:16
  to
• 53:16
  go
• 53:16
  first?
• 53:16
  Give
• 53:16
  you
• 53:17
  a
• 53:17
  little
• 53:17
  time.
• 53:17
  I
• 53:17
  think
• 53:18
  you
• 53:18
  go
• 53:18
  first.
• 53:19
  Okay.
• 53:20
  This
• 53:21
  one
• 53:21
  I'm
• 53:21
  basically
• 53:22
  recommending
• 53:22
  this
• 53:22
  for
• 53:22
  Nick,
• 53:23
  because
• 53:23
  I
• 53:24
  told
• 53:24
  all
• 53:24
  of
• 53:24
  our
• 53:24
  listeners
• 53:25
  about
• 53:25
  this
• 53:25
  like
• 53:25
  a
• 53:25
  million
• 53:25
  times.
• 53:26
  I
• 53:26
  feel
• 53:26
  like
• 53:26
  Hunger
• 53:27
  in
• 53:27
  the
• 53:27
  Dusk
• 53:28
  is
• 53:28
  a
• 53:28
  comic
• 53:28
  book
• 53:28
  series
• 53:29
  written
• 53:29
  by
• 53:29
  my
• 53:29
  favorite
• 53:30
  author,
• 53:31
  G.
• 53:31
  Willow
• 53:31
  Wilson.
• 53:32
  High
• 53:33
  fantasy.
• 53:34
  For
• 53:35
  me.
• 53:35
  It
• 53:36
  is
• 53:36
  my
• 53:36
  favorite
• 53:36
  fantasy,
• 53:37
  not
• 53:37
  written
• 53:37
  by
• 53:37
  Tolkien.
• 53:39
  Interesting.
• 53:40
  Okay.
• 53:41
  A
• 53:41
  race
• 53:41
  known
• 53:42
  as
• 53:42
  the
• 53:42
  Van
• 53:42
  Gogh,
• 53:43
  which
• 53:43
  we're
• 53:43
  learning
• 53:43
  a
• 53:44
  lot
• 53:44
  about.
• 53:44
  Maybe
• 53:44
  they're
• 53:44
  not
• 53:44
  as
• 53:45
  evil
• 53:45
  as
• 53:45
  we
• 53:45
  thought,
• 53:45
  which
• 53:45
  is
• 53:46
  interesting.
• 53:47
  Attacking
• 53:48
  ogres
• 53:48
  and
• 53:48
  humans
• 53:49
  and
• 53:49
  humans
• 53:49
  and
• 53:50
  ogres
• 53:50
  had
• 53:50
  to
• 53:50
  make
• 53:50
  an
• 53:51
  alliance
• 53:51
  of
• 53:51
  reconciliation
• 53:53
  because
• 53:54
  of
• 53:54
  that
• 53:55
  threat
• 53:55
  which
• 53:55
  is
• 53:56
  only
• 53:56
  threatening
• 53:56
  them,
• 53:57
  it
• 53:57
  turns
• 53:57
  out
• 53:57
  because
• 53:57
  of
• 53:57
  a
• 53:58
  bigger
• 53:58
  threat.
• 53:59
  It's
• 54:00
  so
• 54:00
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• 54:00
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• 54:00
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• 54:01
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• 54:01
  And
• 54:01
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• 54:01
  like
• 54:01
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• 54:02
  way
• 54:02
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• 54:02
  world's
• 54:02
  built
• 54:02
  out
• 54:02
  and
• 54:03
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• 54:03
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• 54:03
  is
• 54:03
  drawn.
• 54:03
  Like,
• 54:04
  I
• 54:04
  really
• 54:04
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• 54:05
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• 54:05
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• 54:05
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• 54:05
  it.
• 54:05
  I
• 54:05
  really
• 54:06
  do.
• 54:07
  And
• 54:07
  she's
• 54:07
  also
• 54:08
  just
• 54:08
  a
• 54:08
  fantastic
• 54:08
  writer.
• 54:09
  But
• 54:10
  right
• 54:10
  now
• 54:10
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• 54:11
  can
• 54:11
  get
• 54:11
  like
• 54:11
  volume
• 54:11
  one,
• 54:12
  the
• 54:12
  graphic
• 54:12
  novel.
• 54:12
  And
• 54:13
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• 54:13
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• 54:13
  I'll
• 54:13
  text
• 54:13
  you
• 54:13
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• 54:14
  volume
• 54:14
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• 54:14
  comes
• 54:14
  out
• 54:15
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• 54:15
  you
• 54:15
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• 54:15
  it.
• 54:15
  Okay.
• 54:16
  I
• 54:16
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• 54:16
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• 54:16
  it
• 54:17
  on.
• 54:17
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• 54:17
  got
• 54:17
  it
• 54:17
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• 54:18
  my
• 54:19
  search.
• 54:19
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• 54:19
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• 54:19
  it
• 54:19
  up
• 54:20
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• 54:20
  Hunger
• 54:20
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• 54:20
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• 54:20
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• 54:21
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• 54:21
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• 54:21
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• 54:21
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• 54:21
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• 54:21
  out
• 54:21
  Volume
• 54:22
  one
• 54:22
  also
• 54:22
  is
• 54:22
  available
• 54:22
  on
• 54:23
  Kindle
• 54:23
  Unlimited,
• 54:23
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• 54:24
  you
• 54:24
  have
• 54:24
  that.
• 54:24
  So
• 54:24
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• 54:24
  That's
• 54:25
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• 54:25
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• 54:26
  Yeah.
• 54:27
  Okay.
• 54:27
  Anyway,
• 54:27
  see
• 54:27
  you
• 54:28
  recommendation.
• 54:28
  It
• 54:28
  doesn't
• 54:29
  have
• 54:29
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• 54:29
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• 54:29
  specific
• 54:29
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• 54:30
  me.
• 54:30
  I
• 54:30
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• 54:30
  I'm
• 54:30
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• 54:30
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• 54:31
  talking
• 54:31
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• 54:31
  Dick.
• 54:31
  I
• 54:31
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• 54:31
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• 54:32
  tell
• 54:32
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• 54:32
  about
• 54:32
  this
• 54:32
  anyway.
• 54:33
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• 54:33
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• 54:33
  love
• 54:33
  it,
• 54:34
  especially
• 54:34
  with
• 54:34
  comics.
• 54:35
  You
• 54:35
  know,
• 54:35
  just
• 54:35
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• 54:36
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• 54:36
  it.
• 54:36
  I
• 54:36
  know
• 54:36
  you're
• 54:36
  starting
• 54:36
  to
• 54:37
  get
• 54:37
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• 54:37
  it.
• 54:37
  I'm
• 54:37
  like,
• 54:37
  hey,
• 54:37
  this
• 54:38
  is
• 54:38
  one.
• 54:38
  Yeah.
• 54:39
  She's
• 54:39
  won
• 54:39
  an
• 54:40
  Eisner
• 54:40
  Award
• 54:40
  for
• 54:40
  her
• 54:40
  sci
• 54:41
  fi
• 54:41
  comic
• 54:41
  series,
• 54:42
  which
• 54:42
  is
• 54:43
  like.
• 54:43
  Yeah,
• 54:44
  so
• 54:44
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• 54:44
  like
• 54:44
  the
• 54:44
  goat.
• 54:45
  Okay,
• 54:46
  Willow.
• 54:46
  All
• 54:46
  right,
• 54:47
  Willow.
• 54:47
  Yeah,
• 54:47
  yeah,
• 54:47
  yeah.
• 54:48
  All
• 54:49
  right,
• 54:49
  man.
• 54:49
  What
• 54:49
  you
• 54:49
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• 54:51
  I
• 54:51
  think
• 54:51
  that,
• 54:52
  you
• 54:52
  know,
• 54:52
  I'm
• 54:52
  going
• 54:53
  to
• 54:53
  go
• 54:53
  a
• 54:53
  little
• 54:53
  older.
• 54:53
  I'm
• 54:54
  going
• 54:54
  to
• 54:54
  say
• 54:54
  go
• 54:54
  for
• 54:54
  the
• 54:55
  classics.
• 54:55
  I'm
• 54:55
  talking
• 54:56
  about
• 54:56
  the
• 54:56
  classic
• 54:56
  literature.
• 54:58
  You
• 54:58
  know,
• 54:58
  I've
• 54:58
  kind
• 54:59
  of
• 54:59
  been
• 54:59
  making
• 54:59
  my
• 54:59
  way
• 54:59
  through
• 55:00
  some
• 55:00
  stuff
• 55:00
  as
• 55:01
  an
• 55:01
  English
• 55:01
  teacher.
• 55:01
  And
• 55:01
  I'm
• 55:02
  reading
• 55:02
  Gulliver's
• 55:03
  Travels
• 55:03
  right
• 55:03
  now,
• 55:04
  which
• 55:04
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• 55:04
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• 55:04
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• 55:04
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• 55:04
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• 55:05
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• 55:05
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• 55:06
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• 55:06
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• 55:06
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• 55:07
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• 55:07
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• 55:08
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• 55:08
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• 55:09
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• 55:09
  you
• 55:09
  will.
• 55:10
  But
• 55:11
  it's
• 55:11
  fun,
• 55:12
  it's
• 55:12
  cool.
• 55:12
  There's
• 55:13
  a
• 55:13
  reason
• 55:13
  why
• 55:13
  there's
• 55:13
  things
• 55:13
  are
• 55:14
  classics.
• 55:15
  We
• 55:16
  should
• 55:16
  add
• 55:16
  more
• 55:16
  to
• 55:16
  the
• 55:16
  classics.
• 55:17
  We
• 55:17
  should
• 55:18
  expand
• 55:18
  the
• 55:18
  Western
• 55:18
  canon
• 55:19
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• 55:19
  abolish
• 55:20
  it
• 55:20
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• 55:20
  just
• 55:20
  make
• 55:20
  things
• 55:20
  awesome.
• 55:21
  But
• 55:21
  they're
• 55:22
  worth
• 55:22
  reading
• 55:22
  and
• 55:23
  reading
• 55:23
  the
• 55:23
  class,
• 55:24
  you
• 55:24
  know.
• 55:24
  Yeah,
• 55:25
  yeah,
• 55:25
  yeah,
• 55:25
  yeah.
• 55:26
  Check
• 55:26
  out.
• 55:26
  Check
• 55:26
  out
• 55:26
  a
• 55:27
  little,
• 55:27
  you
• 55:27
  know,
• 55:27
  Great
• 55:28
  Gatsby.
• 55:28
  Check
• 55:29
  out
• 55:29
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• 55:29
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• 55:29
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• 55:30
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• 55:30
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• 55:31
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• 55:31
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• 55:31
  Also,
• 55:31
  listen
• 55:32
  Catholic
• 55:32
  church,
• 55:33
  if
• 55:33
  you're
• 55:33
  listening.
• 55:33
  I'm
• 55:34
  not
• 55:34
  opposed
• 55:34
  to
• 55:34
  you
• 55:34
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• 55:35
  a
• 55:35
  Newer
• 55:35
  Testament.
• 55:36
  I
• 55:36
  think
• 55:36
  it
• 55:36
  would
• 55:36
  be
• 55:36
  great
• 55:37
  to
• 55:37
  have
• 55:37
  Old
• 55:37
  Testament,
• 55:38
  New
• 55:38
  Testament,
• 55:38
  Newer
• 55:38
  Testament.
• 55:39
  And
• 55:39
  I'd
• 55:39
  read
• 55:39
  it
• 55:40
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• 55:41
  on
• 55:41
  what
• 55:41
  you.
• 55:41
  I
• 55:41
  mean
• 55:41
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• 55:42
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• 55:42
  read
• 55:42
  it
• 55:42
  no
• 55:42
  matter
• 55:42
  what
• 55:42
  you
• 55:42
  put
• 55:42
  in
• 55:43
  there.
• 55:43
  Whether
• 55:43
  I
• 55:43
  agree
• 55:44
  with
• 55:44
  it
• 55:44
  or
• 55:44
  not
• 55:44
  would
• 55:44
  probably
• 55:45
  depend
• 55:45
  on
• 55:45
  what
• 55:45
  you
• 55:45
  put
• 55:45
  in
• 55:45
  there.
• 55:46
  The
• 55:46
  Gospel
• 55:46
  of
• 55:47
  Joshua.
• 55:47
  No,
• 55:47
  yeah,
• 55:48
  there
• 55:48
  we
• 55:48
  go.
• 55:48
  There
• 55:48
  we
• 55:48
  go.
• 55:49
  It
• 55:49
  would
• 55:49
  be
• 55:49
  terrible,
• 55:50
  but
• 55:50
  do
• 55:50
  it
• 55:50
  anyway.
• 55:52
  Well,
• 55:52
  guys,
• 55:53
  again,
• 55:53
  if
• 55:53
  you're
• 55:53
  on
• 55:53
  a
• 55:53
  laptop,
• 55:54
  please
• 55:54
  consider
• 55:54
  interviewing
• 55:55
  our
• 55:55
  show
• 55:55
  on
• 55:55
  Podchaser
• 55:56
  or
• 55:56
  GoodPods,
• 55:56
  one
• 55:56
  of
• 55:57
  those
• 55:57
  two
• 55:57
  websites.
• 55:57
  It's
• 55:57
  going
• 55:57
  to
• 55:57
  help
• 55:58
  our
• 55:58
  show
• 55:58
  gain
• 55:58
  recognition
• 55:58
  and
• 55:58
  make
• 55:59
  it
• 55:59
  easier
• 55:59
  to
• 55:59
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• 55:59
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• 55:59
  search
• 55:59
  engines
• 56:00
  like
• 56:00
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• 56:00
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• 56:01
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• 56:01
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• 56:01
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• 56:01
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• 56:01
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• 56:02
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• 56:02
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• 56:02
  So
• 56:02
  podchaser,
• 56:03
  good
• 56:03
  pods,
• 56:03
  that
• 56:03
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• 56:04
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• 56:04
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• 56:04
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• 56:04
  But
• 56:04
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• 56:05
  you're
• 56:05
  not
• 56:05
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• 56:05
  a
• 56:05
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• 56:05
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• 56:06
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• 56:06
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• 56:06
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• 56:06
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• 56:06
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• 56:06
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• 56:06
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• 56:06
  the
• 56:07
  mobile
• 56:07
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• 56:07
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• 56:07
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• 56:08
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• 56:08
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• 56:08
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• 56:08
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• 56:08
  They're
• 56:09
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• 56:09
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• 56:09
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• 56:10
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• 56:10
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• 56:10
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• 56:10
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• 56:10
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• 56:11
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• 56:11
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• 56:12
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• 56:12
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• 56:13
  Our
• 56:13
  show
• 56:13
  on
• 56:13
  Apple
• 56:13
  Podcasts
• 56:14
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• 56:14
  Spotify,
• 56:14
  it's
• 56:14
  going
• 56:14
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• 56:15
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• 56:15
  prioritize
• 56:15
  our
• 56:16
  show
• 56:16
  and
• 56:16
  those
• 56:16
  albums,
• 56:17
  apps,
• 56:18
  algorithms,
• 56:19
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• 56:20
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• 56:20
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• 56:20
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• 56:20
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• 56:20
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• 56:21
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• 56:21
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• 56:21
  podcasts
• 56:21
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• 56:22
  So
• 56:22
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• 56:23
  us
• 56:23
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• 56:23
  We'd
• 56:23
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• 56:24
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• 56:24
  It's
• 56:24
  free,
• 56:24
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• 56:24
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• 56:25
  awesome.
• 56:25
  What's
• 56:25
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• 56:26
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• 56:26
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• 56:26
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• 56:26
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• 56:26
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• 56:26
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• 56:27
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• 56:27
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• 56:27
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• 56:27
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• 56:27
  shouting
• 56:28
  them
• 56:28
  out
• 56:28
  as
• 56:28
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• 56:28
  You
• 56:28
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• 56:28
  sponsor
• 56:29
  our
• 56:29
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• 56:29
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• 56:29
  Apple
• 56:29
  Podcasts
• 56:30
  activator
• 56:30
  Patreon.
• 56:31
  Today
• 56:31
  we're
• 56:31
  shouting
• 56:31
  out
• 56:32
  Russell
• 56:32
  Gentry.
• 56:32
  I
• 56:33
  love
• 56:33
  you
• 56:33
  dude.
• 56:33
  You
• 56:34
  are
• 56:34
  the
• 56:34
  coolest.
• 56:34
  He's
• 56:35
  the
• 56:35
  first
• 56:35
  sponsor
• 56:36
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• 56:36
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• 56:36
  on
• 56:36
  any
• 56:36
  podcast
• 56:37
  actually.
• 56:37
  And
• 56:37
  a
• 56:37
  good
• 56:37
  friend
• 56:37
  of
• 56:38
  mine,
• 56:38
  I
• 56:38
  love
• 56:38
  him.
• 56:40
  He's
• 56:41
  got
• 56:41
  several
• 56:41
  merchants
• 56:42
  from
• 56:42
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• 56:43
  us
• 56:43
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• 56:44
  both
• 56:44
  Patreons
• 56:45
  for
• 56:45
  this
• 56:45
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• 56:45
  whole
• 56:45
  church.
• 56:46
  He's
• 56:46
  a
• 56:46
  cool
• 56:47
  guy.
• 56:49
  So
• 56:49
  be
• 56:49
  like
• 56:49
  Russell,
• 56:50
  support
• 56:50
  our
• 56:50
  show
• 56:50
  for
• 56:50
  $3
• 56:51
  a
• 56:51
  month
• 56:51
  and
• 56:51
  you'll
• 56:51
  get
• 56:51
  your
• 56:51
  own
• 56:52
  shout
• 56:52
  out
• 56:52
  as
• 56:52
  well
• 56:52
  as
• 56:52
  some
• 56:53
  of
• 56:53
  that
• 56:53
  free
• 56:53
  merch
• 56:53
  every
• 56:53
  so
• 56:54
  often,
• 56:54
  which
• 56:54
  is
• 56:54
  sick.
• 56:55
  If
• 56:55
  you
• 56:55
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• 56:56
  to
• 56:56
  hear
• 56:56
  more
• 56:56
  Finding
• 56:56
  the
• 56:56
  good,
• 56:56
  there's
• 56:57
  a
• 56:57
  link
• 56:57
  down
• 56:57
  below
• 56:58
  in
• 56:58
  the
• 56:58
  show
• 56:58
  notes.
• 56:59
  You
• 56:59
  can
• 56:59
  find
• 56:59
  the
• 56:59
  whole
• 56:59
  series.
• 57:00
  It's
• 57:00
  awesome.
• 57:00
  I
• 57:01
  love
• 57:01
  everything
• 57:01
  we've
• 57:01
  done
• 57:02
  so
• 57:02
  far.
• 57:03
  This
• 57:03
  one
• 57:03
  might
• 57:03
  be
• 57:03
  my
• 57:04
  favorite
• 57:04
  because
• 57:04
  I
• 57:04
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• 57:04
  to
• 57:04
  talk
• 57:05
  with
• 57:05
  Nick
• 57:05
  more
• 57:05
  on
• 57:05
  this
• 57:06
  one
• 57:06
  because
• 57:07
  I
• 57:07
  don't
• 57:07
  think
• 57:07
  he's
• 57:07
  been
• 57:07
  on
• 57:07
  any
• 57:07
  of
• 57:07
  the
• 57:07
  others.
• 57:09
  Yeah
• 57:09
  smooches
• 57:10
  guys.
• 57:10
  Anyway,
• 57:11
  remember,
• 57:11
  we're
• 57:12
  all
• 57:12
  chosen
• 57:13
  people.
• 57:13
  A
• 57:13
  geek
• 57:13
  of
• 57:14
  priests.
• 57:15
  Yeah.