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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm productions.
- 0:05Speaker 2: We are being hynotized people like this, news readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
- 0:15Speaker 3: We are in a country and in a world that
- 0:18Speaker 3: is being run by.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Unbelievably sick people.
- 0:23Speaker 3: The chasm between what we're told is going on and
- 0:26Speaker 3: what he's really going on is.
- 0:28Speaker 4: Absolutely Oh yeah, dude, basing that one ship.
- 0:32Speaker 3: It's like we all know what's going down, but no
- 0:35Speaker 3: one's saying what happens to the home of.
- 0:36Speaker 5: The brief.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Doing this now when no one's talking about it aside.
- 0:41Speaker 6: Every plase and everybody's just.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Walking around out in the problem to make up till
- 0:46Speaker 3: we're done in the.
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- 0:49Speaker 1: We need to be ready to raise that.
- 0:51Speaker 7: Welcome to the end of everybody.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Welcome back, ladies, Jam into another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
- 1:02Speaker 3: I am David Lee Corbo, aka the Raven that is
- 1:06Speaker 3: top Lobbsite, the Father of Disinformation. Before we get into
- 1:10Speaker 3: today's guest, I would like to remind all of our
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- 1:37Speaker 7: Probably what three days, four days.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Something like that.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Top when we feel like it, when.
- 1:41Speaker 3: We feel like it is really yeah, that's really the
- 1:44Speaker 3: thing here coming getting into today's guest, we are joined
- 1:47Speaker 3: by rider Lee Ryder. For the audience who may not
- 1:50Speaker 3: be familiar with you, where can they find your work?
- 1:53Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on guys, really appreciate it is
- 1:55Speaker 6: looking forward to the conversation. You can find me on
- 1:58Speaker 6: raizby Giants, on YouTube and innion all cast platforms, and
- 2:01Speaker 6: if you would like to reach out to me personally,
- 2:02Speaker 6: you can find me on x at Raised by a
- 2:05Speaker 6: Giants eight and on Instagram at Raised by a Giants pod.
- 2:08Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm a filmmaker. I'm a director and editor.
- 2:12Speaker 6: I have two films on Amazon Prime. I have JFKX
- 2:15Speaker 6: Solving The Crime of the Century, which you can watch
- 2:17Speaker 6: for free on Amazon Prime, and then my latest documentary,
- 2:21Speaker 6: A Clockwork Shining. Kubrick's Odyssey three is also on Amazon Prime.
- 2:26Speaker 6: And if you don't like Amazon Prime, and if you
- 2:28Speaker 6: think Amazon Prime is promoting free Masonic symbolism in their logo,
- 2:33Speaker 6: you can watch the movie on Vimeo as well. So
- 2:37Speaker 6: got you some options there.
- 2:38Speaker 4: Nice, you're man, You're maybe your JFK film is about
- 2:41Speaker 4: to take off again if you can get in front
- 2:43Speaker 4: of the right eyes. We have some disclosure coming or
- 2:45Speaker 4: what they're calling disclosure. Will see what they decided to
- 2:48Speaker 4: tell us. But what angle did you take on that film?
- 2:53Speaker 6: It's unlike anything that anyone has really ever heard before.
- 2:57Speaker 6: It takes is basically j It's his theory. And we
- 3:02Speaker 6: originally wanted to do the film on Stanley Kubrick first,
- 3:06Speaker 6: and then we were like, okay, well Stanley Kubrick film
- 3:09Speaker 6: was going to take a lot more money because he
- 3:11Speaker 6: had already previously done two movies on Stanley Kubrick, which
- 3:14Speaker 6: was A Kubrick's Odyssey one and A Cubric's Odyssey two.
- 3:17Speaker 6: He's the originator of Stanley Kubrick, essentially showing that the
- 3:22Speaker 6: shining is his confession of faking the moon landing. That's
- 3:26Speaker 6: where a lot of people got that idea from was
- 3:28Speaker 6: from Jay Widner in those are Cubric's Odyssey films, and
- 3:31Speaker 6: they don't give him enough credit for that. They kind
- 3:33Speaker 6: of take the idea and then put it out there
- 3:35Speaker 6: and throw clips and stuff. But who popularized that was
- 3:39Speaker 6: Jay Widner in the movie Room two thirty seven. That's
- 3:42Speaker 6: where everyone really heard that movie, well heard that theory.
- 3:47Speaker 6: And so JFK Acts is a different take on the
- 3:52Speaker 6: assassination of JFK. And I don't want to ruin it
- 3:55Speaker 6: for the people that haven't seen it. If you can
- 3:58Speaker 6: also watch it on tub as well as free to be,
- 4:00Speaker 6: so you can get on it's on Amazon, freeb and s,
- 4:03Speaker 6: type in jfkas and you can watch it on there.
- 4:06Speaker 6: Or if you got to be on your TV or
- 4:09Speaker 6: got the two b opp you just type in Jfkax
- 4:11Speaker 6: and you'll find it on there.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Kubrick, he did this thing that has kind of solidified
- 4:18Speaker 3: him as the man with the blueprint for subliminal messaging,
- 4:21Speaker 3: or at least he did it to the highest level.
- 4:24Speaker 3: You just mentioned that he admitted within the film The
- 4:28Speaker 3: Shining that he faked the moon landing. And so we
- 4:33Speaker 3: find ourselves on this show bringing him up very often,
- 4:36Speaker 3: because whenever you see a piece of media with subliminal
- 4:40Speaker 3: messaging in the background. Well, he's always gonna end up
- 4:42Speaker 3: being part of the conversation. And recently we did a
- 4:47Speaker 3: deep dive on the Santa Baby video by Kim Kardashian,
- 4:52Speaker 3: And also we talk quite a bit about the movie
- 4:55Speaker 3: White Noise, which is starring Adam Driver. It's a film
- 4:58Speaker 3: on Netflix where they're depicting an Ohio train derailment, and
- 5:02Speaker 3: the background of that film is rich with storytelling if
- 5:05Speaker 3: you pay attention. But we don't really get into Kubrick
- 5:09Speaker 3: very much, and sometimes it doesn't dawn on me that
- 5:12Speaker 3: the audience might not know what I'm talking about. Something
- 5:15Speaker 3: that you take for granted, but it's not on everybody's radars.
- 5:19Speaker 3: So I'd love to start picking this at part today,
- 5:21Speaker 3: especially when it comes to the shining and clockwork Orange.
- 5:27Speaker 3: How can a thing be a movie on one level
- 5:31Speaker 3: but have a completely different story in the background. Well,
- 5:34Speaker 3: that's what.
- 5:34Speaker 6: Kubrick was a master doing, was telling the story through
- 5:38Speaker 6: the actual filmmaking process. And like we were mentioning before
- 5:42Speaker 6: the show started, so many filmmakers now want to give
- 5:45Speaker 6: everything away in the exposition of the movie, like long Legs,
- 5:49Speaker 6: did you guys see Long Legs with Nicholas Cage.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I was told to watch Long Legs and I
- 5:55Speaker 3: don't know. It was a strange film. What do you
- 5:57Speaker 3: make of it?
- 5:58Speaker 6: It was really good. I loved it up until the
- 6:01Speaker 6: last until her mom blows the back out of the head,
- 6:07Speaker 6: shoots the doll, and then her spirit or whatever gets released,
- 6:11Speaker 6: and then she's laying on the bed and then her
- 6:12Speaker 6: mom comes to her and tells her the entire plot
- 6:15Speaker 6: of the freaking movie. Yeah, ruins the entire thing. In
- 6:19Speaker 6: the same way with Smile Too. Smile Too did the
- 6:22Speaker 6: exact same thing, Like we didn't have to be told
- 6:25Speaker 6: that all of it was happening in her head. We
- 6:28Speaker 6: could have put two and two together whenever she woke
- 6:30Speaker 6: up on the stage and then she's the Smile character, like,
- 6:35Speaker 6: we would have put two and two together and realized
- 6:38Speaker 6: that the entire movie was happening in her head. Like
- 6:41Speaker 6: the Smile entity did not have to tell her, this
- 6:44Speaker 6: is all happening in your head. These are the problems
- 6:48Speaker 6: and the issues with filmmaking nowadays. This is literally all.
- 6:51Speaker 6: There's no wonder, there's no mystery, it's just all. And
- 6:55Speaker 6: whenever they build up that mystery where you're like, oh man,
- 6:57Speaker 6: this is super intrigued. I really like this, and then
- 7:01Speaker 6: instead of creating your own ideas and your own theories
- 7:05Speaker 6: about the movie, they just tell you exactly what the
- 7:07Speaker 6: movie is about. And that's what Kubric never wanted to do.
- 7:11Speaker 6: And that's the reason why Kubric never did any interviews. Well,
- 7:14Speaker 6: he did very few interviews because he didn't want his
- 7:19Speaker 6: interpretation of the movie to be projected onto the audience,
- 7:22Speaker 6: because he felt that if he told the audience exactly
- 7:25Speaker 6: what the movie was about, then that ends all theory
- 7:28Speaker 6: and speculation as to what he might have been trying
- 7:30Speaker 6: to say with the movie.
- 7:32Speaker 3: I wonder if those films performed well in the box office,
- 7:36Speaker 3: because it almost seems logical to me that where it
- 7:42Speaker 3: will take some time for a Kubric film to potentially
- 7:45Speaker 3: find its audience, and that audience are people that like
- 7:48Speaker 3: that sort of a thing, right, like that mystery, like
- 7:50Speaker 3: that speculation, and like having to think critically. But I
- 7:55Speaker 3: think we're being honest, the vast majority of people don't,
- 7:59Speaker 3: especially today, right we just everything happened so fast, nobody's
- 8:03Speaker 3: got time, and so could it be that they're trying
- 8:06Speaker 3: to appeal to a larger audience when they do that,
- 8:09Speaker 3: because I would almost I wouldn't be surprised if it
- 8:11Speaker 3: didn't perform well in the box office and then became
- 8:14Speaker 3: a cult classic after the fact.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Well I'm reading about it now. So the opening weekend
- 8:19Speaker 4: it did just over half a million dollars and then
- 8:24Speaker 4: like the domestic total when all of said and done,
- 8:26Speaker 4: it was forty four million and worldwide forty seven million.
- 8:29Speaker 4: So it started off like people like, what the hell
- 8:31Speaker 4: is this shit? And then it just took off. I
- 8:33Speaker 4: guess it took his films take a little while to
- 8:35Speaker 4: boil over and really think about.
- 8:38Speaker 6: Yeah, he didn't really have that many large successes whenever
- 8:41Speaker 6: they came out. I mean even two thousand and one
- 8:44Speaker 6: of Space honestly was kind of trashed critically. But before
- 8:47Speaker 6: he did the Shining his movie before that was Barry Linden,
- 8:51Speaker 6: and Barry Linden was not a success at all, did
- 8:54Speaker 6: not make It was probably Kubrick's worst performing film that
- 8:57Speaker 6: ever hit theaters. It was not a critical success, it
- 9:00Speaker 6: was not an audience success. And then after Barry Lyndon
- 9:03Speaker 6: came out, Kubrick was then offered the Extorcist. He was
- 9:08Speaker 6: going to direct the Actorcist and he turned it down,
- 9:13Speaker 6: and then they ultimately went to William Freaking, which is
- 9:17Speaker 6: the director of the Actressist, and that kind of became,
- 9:21Speaker 6: you know, a really big film for Warner Brothers because
- 9:24Speaker 6: it's based on a novel and really popular movie. And
- 9:29Speaker 6: then it's kind of we sort of theorized in our movie,
- 9:33Speaker 6: which there is some evidence for this is that Warner Brothers.
- 9:37Speaker 5: It was kind of Warner Brothers.
- 9:38Speaker 6: Idea to give The Shining to Stanley Kubrick to make
- 9:43Speaker 6: the movie because they had already had success with adapting
- 9:47Speaker 6: a horror novel with William Freaking directing the actressists. So
- 9:51Speaker 6: it was probably pushed in Kubrick's way like here take this,
- 9:55Speaker 6: because they had a pre published copy of The Shining
- 9:58Speaker 6: from Stephen King, and they were like, here, Kubrick, you
- 10:02Speaker 6: know kind of you're you're on a downstreak right now.
- 10:04Speaker 6: Your last movie did not perform well, so we want
- 10:07Speaker 6: you to do an adaptation of Stephen King's The Shining.
- 10:12Speaker 6: And a lot of Kubrick's films, he changes things, he
- 10:16Speaker 6: doesn't base it off of the novel, and that's what
- 10:18Speaker 6: really upset Stephen King. Within The Shining is because Kubrick
- 10:22Speaker 6: put his own spin on the adaptation, and then King
- 10:26Speaker 6: came in and then made his miniseries on The Shining,
- 10:29Speaker 6: which was complete and total dog shit.
- 10:32Speaker 5: It was not good.
- 10:33Speaker 6: It was haunted bushes and haunted freaking play swings and
- 10:39Speaker 6: like just a god awful disaster. And that's what Kubrick
- 10:46Speaker 6: was saying. He was like, yeah, King, you might be
- 10:48Speaker 6: a really good you might be able to write really
- 10:50Speaker 6: good novels, but you're not a filmmaker. You can't make
- 10:52Speaker 6: a good film. And we see evidence of that as
- 10:55Speaker 6: Kubrick is making the movie. Kubrick is rewriting the entire
- 11:00Speaker 6: movie as he's making it. He's rewriting the script, so
- 11:04Speaker 6: he's changing things, He's putting things in there, he's taking
- 11:06Speaker 6: things out. He probably submitted a more conducive script Warner
- 11:12Speaker 6: Brothers in the beginning to follow it along with King's
- 11:15Speaker 6: work so that they would greenlight the movie. No filmmaker
- 11:21Speaker 6: is ever going to be writing a script for a
- 11:24Speaker 6: film as you're shooting the movie. Unless you want to
- 11:28Speaker 6: complete an utter disaster of a movie. You just don't
- 11:32Speaker 6: do that.
- 11:33Speaker 3: What did you think about Doctor Sleep, which is the
- 11:36Speaker 3: sequel to the Shining.
- 11:38Speaker 6: I like Doctor Sleep, but it takes a completely different angle.
- 11:41Speaker 6: It's more about like astral projection and out of body
- 11:45Speaker 6: experiences and remote viewing and by location, which is a
- 11:50Speaker 6: really interesting concept which gets into a lot of the
- 11:53Speaker 6: remote viewing and I've done a lot of work into
- 11:56Speaker 6: researching the government's remote viewing program, the Stargate. I've had
- 12:00Speaker 6: a lot of those people on my show, the official
- 12:02Speaker 6: people that were in the program, doctor David Morehouse, Lim Buchanan,
- 12:06Speaker 6: Dell Graph. He was their originator that called the coin
- 12:10Speaker 6: the term Stargate, Doctor Paul Smith. I've had a lot
- 12:15Speaker 6: of them on my channel, and I've done a lot
- 12:17Speaker 6: of research into it, and I think that it's a
- 12:20Speaker 6: really interesting film. They took a completely different direction, and
- 12:23Speaker 6: obviously it's not a cubric film, though they do use
- 12:27Speaker 6: a lot of the symbolism, Like they use the carpet
- 12:29Speaker 6: from that Kubric used in The Shining. It's there and
- 12:32Speaker 6: they take it, take you back to the hotel at
- 12:35Speaker 6: the end of the movie, and then it, you know,
- 12:37Speaker 6: burns to the ground, which it was originally supposed to
- 12:40Speaker 6: burn to the ground at the end of the Shining book.
- 12:43Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure that that's what happened at the end
- 12:45Speaker 6: of Stephen King's novel The Shining is that the hotel
- 12:48Speaker 6: burned to the ground, But Cubrick didn't do that in
- 12:50Speaker 6: the first movie, so then they just did it at
- 12:53Speaker 6: the end of the movie of Doctor Sleep.
- 12:55Speaker 5: But I liked it.
- 12:56Speaker 6: I thought that the acting was good. Hugh McGregor was it.
- 13:01Speaker 6: But it has really nothing other than the surface level
- 13:05Speaker 6: stuff in Doctor Sleep.
- 13:07Speaker 3: As a film, Yeah, I found that it didn't connect it.
- 13:10Speaker 3: It almost felt like two different movies in a way,
- 13:13Speaker 3: where you have that first chunk and then when they
- 13:15Speaker 3: go to the hotel, it almost feels like it's you're
- 13:18Speaker 3: watching something different in some way because outside of it,
- 13:22Speaker 3: it feels like it bears very little resemblance or connection
- 13:26Speaker 3: to The Shining except for you know, ew and McGregor's character.
- 13:29Speaker 3: But going back to the original film, I've watched some
- 13:36Speaker 3: segments of documentaries on it. You can find a lot
- 13:39Speaker 3: of people are fascinated. It's kind of the gift that
- 13:41Speaker 3: keeps giving, right because there seems to be replay value
- 13:46Speaker 3: in it where you can catch something where you didn't
- 13:48Speaker 3: see it the first time around, and it seems that
- 13:51Speaker 3: people are pretty comfortable with the idea that The Shining
- 13:54Speaker 3: is telling two stories in the background. One is, like
- 13:57Speaker 3: we said earlier, about the moon landing, and the other
- 13:59Speaker 3: is about the genocide of the Native Americans.
- 14:02Speaker 7: And I don't know if that's true.
- 14:04Speaker 3: So I'd love to hear your point of view on
- 14:06Speaker 3: what is it that Kubrick is trying to express in
- 14:09Speaker 3: The Shining.
- 14:10Speaker 6: Well, that gets really deep, and that's essentially what the
- 14:13Speaker 6: entire almost two hour movie is really all about and
- 14:16Speaker 6: is really setting out because it's a different theory that
- 14:19Speaker 6: no one has ever heard before, no one has ever
- 14:21Speaker 6: talked about before, and that is that Stanley Kubrick is
- 14:26Speaker 6: essentially telling us about MK Ultra mind control. That's what
- 14:31Speaker 6: the entire movie is really about. And it's mind control
- 14:35Speaker 6: on many levels. Because that doesn't discount the other theories
- 14:39Speaker 6: that are circulating about The Shining, like the faking of
- 14:41Speaker 6: the moon landing, because if they did indeed fake the
- 14:45Speaker 6: moon landing, that's going to be a giant MK Ultra operation.
- 14:48Speaker 6: And then when you look at why do none of
- 14:50Speaker 6: the TVs have look like they're plugged into anything in
- 14:54Speaker 6: the Shining. They're cordless, they're not, but they're running in
- 14:58Speaker 6: the Shining right, So it's like, if he did indeed
- 15:02Speaker 6: fake the moon landing, then he's trying to say that
- 15:04Speaker 6: what you were watching was fake because the moon landing
- 15:08Speaker 6: footage was supposedly broadcasted live everywhere in the world at
- 15:13Speaker 6: that time, I think, but mainly in the United States
- 15:15Speaker 6: because the United States was the one that was launching
- 15:17Speaker 6: the rocket. So if that's what he's trying to say,
- 15:20Speaker 6: it's an mk Ultra program on many different layers, but
- 15:23Speaker 6: there's so many subtle things like Hubert puts in there,
- 15:26Speaker 6: there's so many different continuity errors within the shining that
- 15:29Speaker 6: really doesn't make any sense unless he is trying to
- 15:35Speaker 6: break the psyche of the viewer. As the viewer is
- 15:39Speaker 6: watching the movie, and as Jack Torrence is also starting
- 15:42Speaker 6: to go deeper and deeper into this MK Ultra program
- 15:45Speaker 6: and getting his psyche split, he's subliminally trying to get
- 15:48Speaker 6: the audience to have their psyche split, to have them
- 15:51Speaker 6: start to question their reality subliminally by things disappearing or reappearing,
- 15:56Speaker 6: or moving around the screen, or being there in one shot,
- 15:59Speaker 6: disappearing in the.
- 16:00Speaker 5: Next shot, or being there earlier.
- 16:01Speaker 6: In the movie and not being there later in the movie.
- 16:04Speaker 6: So those are some of the subliminal techniques. It's to
- 16:07Speaker 6: disorient the audience, as he's also disorienting the characters within
- 16:12Speaker 6: the movie. But there's there's so many different things. Like
- 16:17Speaker 6: the first time that we meet Wendy and Danny in
- 16:19Speaker 6: the movie, Wendy's reading the book by J. D. Salinger
- 16:23Speaker 6: called Ketcher in the Rye. And I'm sure you guys
- 16:25Speaker 6: are familiar with the book. Ketcher and the Ryot has
- 16:27Speaker 6: been associated with two major assassinations within a year of
- 16:32Speaker 6: the release of The Shining, So Kubrick had this book
- 16:36Speaker 6: in his movie a year before both assassinations of John
- 16:42Speaker 6: Lennon and the attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan, and where
- 16:46Speaker 6: both books were found at the scene, and they've been
- 16:48Speaker 6: related to an mk Ultri style Manchurian candidate assassination. Kubrick
- 16:54Speaker 6: had this book in his movie and Wendy is reading
- 16:56Speaker 6: it a year before both of these assassinations.
- 17:00Speaker 3: It begins to suggest that, I mean, obviously, if you
- 17:04Speaker 3: are recruited to help fake the moon landing, then you
- 17:07Speaker 3: might be keen to other information or plans, right, That's
- 17:10Speaker 3: kind of what happens or the implications of that idea
- 17:14Speaker 3: and it seems like the elite, for lack of a
- 17:18Speaker 3: better term, they regard Kubrick pretty highly. It seems that
- 17:24Speaker 3: they celebrate his ability to do this sort of a thing,
- 17:29Speaker 3: to ingrain his media with these symbols that tell a story.
- 17:33Speaker 3: We were watching the Kim Kardashian video and in it
- 17:38Speaker 3: there is a scene where I actually have it right here.
- 17:40Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to bring this image
- 17:42Speaker 3: up top, give me one second, but there is an
- 17:45Speaker 3: homage to the shining and we've got this image here.
- 17:50Speaker 3: If you bring that up, you can see on the
- 17:53Speaker 3: right side there is that sort of a mascot down
- 17:57Speaker 3: along hallway and he's being you know, molested in one way,
- 18:03Speaker 3: shape or form by two men. And this is also
- 18:05Speaker 3: the same thing that you see in Jared Leto's thirty
- 18:09Speaker 3: Seconds to Mars video, the Kill, which is arguably one
- 18:14Speaker 3: of their more successful songs. I would say thirty seconds
- 18:19Speaker 3: to Mars that's probably like maybe their number one hit,
- 18:23Speaker 3: and the entire hit too. Was it their first hit,
- 18:26Speaker 3: And I think that was the moment that really launched
- 18:29Speaker 3: Jared Leto into the stratosphere as far as being you know,
- 18:33Speaker 3: a Hollywood icon goes. And so that entire music video
- 18:37Speaker 3: is one big short or not big, you know, but
- 18:40Speaker 3: it's a It's a Kubrick film in many ways. It's
- 18:43Speaker 3: done like the Shining. The whole thing is an homage
- 18:45Speaker 3: to the Shining. And when I see that, especially when
- 18:49Speaker 3: we're talking about Jared Leto, Hollywood elite, Kim Kardashian, you know,
- 18:53Speaker 3: Hollywood elite also probably a witch. These people, I think
- 18:58Speaker 3: they they guard Kubrick pretty highly.
- 19:03Speaker 6: Then when you look at Jared Leto, he owns Lookout
- 19:08Speaker 6: Mountain Air Force Base in Laurel Canyon in Hollywood.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Duzzy, come on, man, that's crazy.
- 19:15Speaker 6: And you look at Lookout Mountain. You look at the overlook.
- 19:20Speaker 6: There used to be a hotel that sat on the
- 19:23Speaker 6: grounds of where the Lookout Mountain Air Force Base is.
- 19:28Speaker 6: That was called the Lookout Hotel, and that hotel burnt
- 19:35Speaker 6: to the ground in the early nineteen hundreds. Then at
- 19:41Speaker 6: the end of Stephen King's novel and at the end
- 19:45Speaker 6: of Doctor Sleep, the overlook burns to the ground.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so you Lookout Overlook.
- 19:52Speaker 6: You got all those connections there and then all these
- 19:55Speaker 6: high ranking there were so many films that was made
- 19:58Speaker 6: at Lookout Mountain Air Force that we don't even know
- 20:03Speaker 6: about to this very day, like thousands of films. There
- 20:05Speaker 6: was more films that were made up there Lookout Mountain
- 20:08Speaker 6: Air Force Base than was made all of Hollywood up
- 20:11Speaker 6: until that point. Several people had high ranking clearance for it.
- 20:14Speaker 6: Major Hollywood actors had high ranking clearance. This is where
- 20:18Speaker 6: all of the nuclear bomb testing footage was filmed up
- 20:22Speaker 6: there on miniature sets. Was that Lookout Mountain Air Force Base.
- 20:28Speaker 6: Marilyn Monroe, Carrie Grant, James Stewart, all these, Ronald Reagan,
- 20:34Speaker 6: they all had top secret security clearance for this Lookout
- 20:38Speaker 6: Mountain Air Force Base on top of the Lower Canyon,
- 20:40Speaker 6: right outside of Hollywood, And no one knows exactly what
- 20:43Speaker 6: they were doing up there, but it is factual that
- 20:46Speaker 6: that's where the nuclear testing bombs were filmed. They weren't
- 20:52Speaker 6: real bombs that were being dropped and filmed. They were
- 20:55Speaker 6: being filmed on miniature sets and they were being filmed
- 20:57Speaker 6: at Lookout Mountain Air Force Base out of Hollywood and
- 21:00Speaker 6: Laurel Canyon.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Right I might be locate. Oh I'm sorry, go ahead,
- 21:05Speaker 1: tap yeah, I'm gonna jump the gun here. Why do
- 21:09Speaker 1: you think they have to tell you?
- 21:11Speaker 4: Because we're describing in multiple, multiple ways how his movie
- 21:15Speaker 4: is pointing to events in the future in the past,
- 21:19Speaker 4: but like, why why even bother telling the general public
- 21:23Speaker 4: in this way?
- 21:26Speaker 6: Well, because I think that it's super cryptic, and I
- 21:28Speaker 6: think that it's like kind of an homage to the
- 21:32Speaker 6: other people that are in the know, like, oh, hey,
- 21:36Speaker 6: this is what we did, and if someone that knows
- 21:39Speaker 6: about it sees it, then they'll be clued in on
- 21:42Speaker 6: the clues to it. It's essentially them just playing playing
- 21:45Speaker 6: with people. That's what I personally think. I don't even
- 21:47Speaker 6: think it has anything to do with predictive programming or anything.
- 21:50Speaker 6: I think it's them just like sitting back and they're
- 21:54Speaker 6: a giant freaking dust star, rocking chairs and having a
- 21:59Speaker 6: good life of.
- 22:03Speaker 3: It's like when you're de see like if you ever
- 22:05Speaker 3: did something you played a trick on somebody and you
- 22:07Speaker 3: and your homie were in on the trick and somebody
- 22:09Speaker 3: else was the unwilling participant, and you might look over
- 22:11Speaker 3: and like give your buddy a nod, right because you're
- 22:14Speaker 3: in on it. It's it's uh, I guess it could be.
- 22:17Speaker 3: I look at these things like they could be a
- 22:18Speaker 3: form of communication. This is this is an interesting catch.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Just this morning, I believe it was just this morning
- 22:25Speaker 3: from Red Pill Drifter. It says, I'm sure you understand
- 22:27Speaker 3: what the cages are depicting in Toy Story three. What's
- 22:30Speaker 3: also strange is that they would give a nod to
- 22:32Speaker 3: Stanley Kubricks the shining on the camera and if you
- 22:35Speaker 3: zoom in, which I can't zoom in, it looks like
- 22:37Speaker 3: it says overlook H two three seven. So I mean,
- 22:43Speaker 3: it's Toy Story And I don't even have an answer
- 22:46Speaker 3: for that one. I don't know why. I don't know
- 22:49Speaker 3: why you would go through the trouble of putting that
- 22:52Speaker 3: little detail in Toy Story.
- 22:55Speaker 7: It could just be an animator having fun.
- 22:57Speaker 3: But that's a very lazy answer that I kind of
- 23:01Speaker 3: not a big fan of that. It's a lot of
- 23:04Speaker 3: it is just like, oh, animators are having fun. Right,
- 23:06Speaker 3: That's the same thing when it comes to Disney putting
- 23:08Speaker 3: all these strange, sumbliminal messages in their backgrounds. But when
- 23:13Speaker 3: you see that, I mean, do you think that that
- 23:15Speaker 3: is another one of these films just paying homage.
- 23:19Speaker 6: Well, I brought up a thing down here on the
- 23:21Speaker 6: bottom that is another Toy Story thing that shows the
- 23:24Speaker 6: exact carpet. Oh wow, what's going on there? And the
- 23:29Speaker 6: Overlook Hotel?
- 23:31Speaker 7: What the hell is that about?
- 23:33Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 23:34Speaker 6: Huh, Well, apparently the director of Toy Story is a
- 23:38Speaker 6: really big Stanley Kubrick fan and a huge Shining fan,
- 23:41Speaker 6: and he collects all the memorabilia and is like really
- 23:45Speaker 6: big into it. The director is actually of Toy Story
- 23:49Speaker 6: is actually the guy that funded the movie Room two
- 23:54Speaker 6: thirty seven that has all the theories in it.
- 23:58Speaker 3: When you so in the have you seen the Santa
- 24:03Speaker 3: Baby video with Kim Kardashian.
- 24:06Speaker 6: I watched it once and just to see what the
- 24:09Speaker 6: hype was about, but I really didn't analyze it to
- 24:12Speaker 6: the degree that you guys probably have.
- 24:15Speaker 3: Well, in one scene, there is a girl. She's in
- 24:19Speaker 3: a cheerleader's outfit. She's got a sort of a boulder
- 24:22Speaker 3: cap and it's covering one eye, and on her chest
- 24:25Speaker 3: is blatantly the A from Clockwork Orange same colors and everything,
- 24:32Speaker 3: and then of course her her cheerleader outfit is keeping
- 24:35Speaker 3: the same color theme. And we went in heavily. I mean,
- 24:40Speaker 3: look when I see that, to me, I go, oh,
- 24:45Speaker 3: they're trying to tell you that it's not about what's
- 24:47Speaker 3: happening in the foreground. It's what's about happen, It's about
- 24:51Speaker 3: what's happening in the background. And I think another great
- 24:53Speaker 3: example of that is something that I've talked about on
- 24:56Speaker 3: the show before. There's a film called White Noise. There
- 25:00Speaker 3: was a time a few years ago where we had
- 25:02Speaker 3: that train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, and at the
- 25:09Speaker 3: same time we had a Chinese balloon spy balloon is
- 25:14Speaker 3: what we've dubbed it since then, traveling from the northwest
- 25:19Speaker 3: all the way to the southeast of America kind of diagonally.
- 25:23Speaker 3: And so that film is, you know, it takes place
- 25:26Speaker 3: in the nineteen eighties. It stars Adam Driver, and in
- 25:28Speaker 3: it a train derailment happens in Ohio. It turns out
- 25:32Speaker 3: that a lot of the people in the film, a
- 25:35Speaker 3: lot of the actors, were locals from East Palestine. And
- 25:40Speaker 3: on the surface, if you watch the film for some reason,
- 25:43Speaker 3: the dialogue is captivating and it's well shot, and all
- 25:47Speaker 3: of the actors are likable, But if you really pay attention,
- 25:51Speaker 3: they're not really saying anything. They're not explaining the situation,
- 25:55Speaker 3: and there's no narrative that's really unfolding in the dialogue.
- 26:01Speaker 3: But if you look at the background, there's a narrative,
- 26:04Speaker 3: and that narrative is UFOs. There's TVs in the background,
- 26:10Speaker 3: there's news reports running UFOs are landing. You'll see newspapers
- 26:13Speaker 3: occasionally about UFO sightings. And this theme continues all throughout
- 26:17Speaker 3: the film. And it's fascinating because in real life, two
- 26:21Speaker 3: weeks later after this film's release, a train derails, and
- 26:25Speaker 3: of course, before we knew it was a spy balloon
- 26:28Speaker 3: or whatever the hell it was, we were speculating wildly
- 26:32Speaker 3: as to whether or not it was a UFO. And
- 26:33Speaker 3: at that same time, there were reports coming from a
- 26:36Speaker 3: bunch of different countries Canada, Uruguay, China and a few
- 26:41Speaker 3: others claiming to have either seen UFOs or have shot
- 26:46Speaker 3: them down. And those reports went away and there was
- 26:50Speaker 3: nothing ever made about them. But that was our backdrop
- 26:53Speaker 3: while we had a train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio.
- 26:56Speaker 7: So, I mean, I don't even know really what to
- 27:00Speaker 7: make of that.
- 27:01Speaker 3: You know, you start to ask these questions, is this
- 27:04Speaker 3: revelation of the method, Is this elites communicating back and forth?
- 27:10Speaker 3: Have you seen that film? Do you have any thoughts
- 27:12Speaker 3: on that?
- 27:13Speaker 6: I have not seen the film. I wanted to watch it,
- 27:15Speaker 6: but I just got it was one of those things
- 27:18Speaker 6: where I started it. I normally watch a movie until
- 27:21Speaker 6: the very end, but I started it and it was
- 27:24Speaker 6: really late and it was not picking up speed at all,
- 27:27Speaker 6: and I didn't really know what was going on because
- 27:29Speaker 6: I don't really like to watch previews or trailers and movies,
- 27:33Speaker 6: because that's another problem, is the trailers give away so
- 27:36Speaker 6: much about the movie. Yeah, and I didn't know anything
- 27:40Speaker 6: about it. I didn't know what it was really about
- 27:43Speaker 6: or you know, what was going on within the movie,
- 27:45Speaker 6: and it was just seemed like really slow. But I'll
- 27:47Speaker 6: definitely have to go back and check it out. But
- 27:49Speaker 6: there's another movie that's called White Noise that came out
- 27:51Speaker 6: in like the early two thousands that is like a
- 27:53Speaker 6: horror movie. So that's whenever you first said White Noise,
- 27:56Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, that old early two thousands horror movie.
- 28:01Speaker 6: But Kubrick has been known to like, there's been several
- 28:04Speaker 6: things throughout Kubrick's career that it's kind of like what
- 28:08Speaker 6: you're talking about with art imitating reality or reality imitating art.
- 28:13Speaker 6: That's a common theme throughout Kubrick's entire film just like
- 28:17Speaker 6: what I was mentioning with Ketcher in the Rye. He
- 28:19Speaker 6: has the book Catcher in the Rye in his movie
- 28:21Speaker 6: a year before both of the assassinations, the one a
- 28:24Speaker 6: real assassination on the Beatle John Lennon and then the
- 28:29Speaker 6: attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan. But before that was Lolita.
- 28:36Speaker 6: So the movie Lolita is a very touchy film that
- 28:41Speaker 6: deals with you know, pedophilia essentially of a really young
- 28:46Speaker 6: girl and uhs a thirteen year old girl. But it
- 28:49Speaker 6: turns out that the exact same thing that the movie
- 28:53Speaker 6: is about is actually happening to the main actor of
- 28:58Speaker 6: the movie in real life on the set with Qubrick's
- 29:04Speaker 6: production manager. And she's essentially the things that she's acting
- 29:12Speaker 6: about is really happening to her in real life from
- 29:16Speaker 6: Kubrick's production manager. And yeah, it's like it's just this
- 29:21Speaker 6: common thing with cubrics and also with the clockwork Orange.
- 29:26Speaker 6: Whenever that movie came out, crime rose like heavily. There
- 29:31Speaker 6: was literally newspaper articles.
- 29:33Speaker 5: There was like the clockwork.
- 29:35Speaker 6: Orange gangs, the clockwork Orange murderers, like and there. It
- 29:38Speaker 6: was eventually pulled from a lot of other countries, especially
- 29:42Speaker 6: in the uk Kubrick pulled the film because it was
- 29:45Speaker 6: inciting violence in real life. And then when you look
- 29:49Speaker 6: at The Shining as well, and the things how Cubrick
- 29:53Speaker 6: was treating Shelley Duvall on the set of The Shining,
- 29:57Speaker 6: which essentially ruined Shelley do entire career. She was never
- 30:02Speaker 6: really the same. She did a few other acting things,
- 30:04Speaker 6: but was never really as big as you know, The
- 30:08Speaker 6: Shining and these other Popeye that she was in before.
- 30:12Speaker 6: It kind of wrecked her entire career. And that was
- 30:15Speaker 6: due to the abuse, the mental abuse, and sometimes like
- 30:21Speaker 6: wouldn't really call it physical abuse because he never really
- 30:24Speaker 6: physically abused her, but he would tell the people on
- 30:26Speaker 6: the set not to tend to her, not listen, don't
- 30:29Speaker 6: listen to her, don't tend to her needs, and like
- 30:33Speaker 6: pretty much verbally abusing her a lot. And that's like
- 30:36Speaker 6: a common thing with like what happens in MK ultra programs.
- 30:40Speaker 6: It's like the thing that you want to do the
- 30:43Speaker 6: most is psychologically break them down, to fracture their mind.
- 30:47Speaker 6: So therefore you can put and you would use the
- 30:49Speaker 6: excuse as you know, well, I'm just trying to get
- 30:52Speaker 6: a good performance out of her. Because obviously Kubrick did
- 30:55Speaker 6: not think that she was that great of an actor,
- 30:58Speaker 6: which is a solid excuse, but you're also using these
- 31:02Speaker 6: types of techniques on her that is like verbati in
- 31:06Speaker 6: what would be being done in some sort of mind
- 31:10Speaker 6: control operation, and it essentially.
- 31:13Speaker 5: Wrecked and ruined her career afterwards. And she just passed.
- 31:17Speaker 6: Away last year. And we actually have a title screen
- 31:21Speaker 6: at the end of our movie and you know, in
- 31:23Speaker 6: memory of Chello Duval. But yeah, she became like a
- 31:27Speaker 6: wreck after.
- 31:28Speaker 1: I remember she was.
- 31:29Speaker 6: On Doctor Phil and like that Doctor Phil's series whenever
- 31:33Speaker 6: he had her on is like brutal.
- 31:36Speaker 4: I remember hearing the scene, you know, he was Johnny
- 31:40Speaker 4: that that scene. They did it over one hundred times.
- 31:43Speaker 4: I think it has a Guinness Guinness World Book record
- 31:46Speaker 4: or something for a scene, that one scene that was
- 31:49Speaker 4: filmed the most.
- 31:50Speaker 1: And it's like.
- 31:52Speaker 4: That's the peak of the movie right where he's like
- 31:54Speaker 4: about to murder ax murder you and he's been torturing
- 31:58Speaker 4: you this entire time, and he finally gets in and
- 32:00Speaker 4: it's just like here's Johnny to make somebody relive that. Yeah,
- 32:04Speaker 4: is fucking brutal man.
- 32:07Speaker 7: You imagine that doing it enough eventually.
- 32:10Speaker 1: You could be becoming real to you.
- 32:11Speaker 3: Right, yeah, it becomes That's what I was gonna say.
- 32:13Speaker 3: It becomes real to you.
- 32:14Speaker 6: You want to see something really interesting real quick. So this,
- 32:18Speaker 6: Oh yeah, whenever Jack goes through the whenever he breaks
- 32:23Speaker 6: down the before he sticks his head and he says,
- 32:26Speaker 6: here's Johnny. You only see him break down one side
- 32:31Speaker 6: of the quarter panel of the door, right, It's only
- 32:36Speaker 6: on the right side, and he sticks his head through
- 32:38Speaker 6: and says, here's Johnny. But then whenever Hollerin shows up
- 32:42Speaker 6: in the snowmobile at the hotel and he turns around,
- 32:46Speaker 6: both sides of the quarter panel of the door have
- 32:48Speaker 6: been broken down.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Why is this done to create a certain effect on
- 32:55Speaker 3: the audience or is there is there maybe a coded mess?
- 33:00Speaker 3: What do you yea do people?
- 33:02Speaker 4: Do you think people even recognize when they're seeing it
- 33:05Speaker 4: or is it just like their subconscious psyche like being
- 33:08Speaker 4: fucked with.
- 33:08Speaker 6: I think it's subconsciously, because I mean, define this stuff.
- 33:12Speaker 6: You have to watch the movie so many times and
- 33:16Speaker 6: like go through like frame by frame by frame to
- 33:19Speaker 6: see a lot of this stuff that is there, and
- 33:22Speaker 6: that's just one of them. Like there's like there's like
- 33:26Speaker 6: at least sixty or seventy. Gee, these subtle things that
- 33:31Speaker 6: change and move throughout the Shining that is one hundred
- 33:35Speaker 6: percent obvious. It makes absolutely no sense as to why Qubria,
- 33:39Speaker 6: why this would be done. I mean, this has to
- 33:41Speaker 6: pass through so many people's hands, Like he has an
- 33:44Speaker 6: entire team working for him. So if he would have
- 33:48Speaker 6: made a mistake, which is probably highly unlikely because Kubrick
- 33:52Speaker 6: is a perfectionist, he gets all the details right. So
- 33:56Speaker 6: if it doesn't, if it passes by him, it also
- 34:00Speaker 6: has to pass by several other people. Like there's another
- 34:05Speaker 6: one that's really crazy. Let me try and pull this
- 34:07Speaker 6: one up. This one, this one is one that not
- 34:11Speaker 6: many people have ever seen, and it's so blatantly obvious.
- 34:16Speaker 6: And so whenever Hallarin is giving a tour to Wendy
- 34:20Speaker 6: and Danny in the beginning of the movie, he this
- 34:25Speaker 6: first room is the freezer room, right, so it goes
- 34:28Speaker 6: the freezer room and then the storage room, which the
- 34:30Speaker 6: storage room is really interesting because it plays a heavy
- 34:32Speaker 6: role later on in the Shiny onever Wendy is dragging
- 34:36Speaker 6: Jack's body into the storage room. But it sounds like
- 34:39Speaker 6: Hollarin says a story room. But Anyway, this is the
- 34:41Speaker 6: first room that Hallarin shows Wendy and Danny. He opens
- 34:46Speaker 6: it up. You see where the door handle is. It's
- 34:48Speaker 6: on the right side of the door. Ye yeah, okay,
- 34:51Speaker 6: So this the bottom panel here is them exiting that
- 34:55Speaker 6: same room, and you see where the handle is on
- 34:59Speaker 6: the the door is now on the left side.
- 35:02Speaker 1: It's not even in the same place.
- 35:04Speaker 6: It's not even in the same place. There's two completely
- 35:07Speaker 6: different places. The entire background is completely different.
- 35:10Speaker 4: Let me say something real quick, and this is nothing
- 35:12Speaker 4: to do with the shining. I let my kids watch
- 35:16Speaker 4: some shows. I'm careful what they watch, and I was like, Bluey,
- 35:19Speaker 4: it seems okay. I like the message of the I
- 35:21Speaker 4: don't know if you have kids, and I know this
- 35:22Speaker 4: is the craziest side, but I was like, Bluey seems fine.
- 35:26Speaker 4: And they my daughter's learning to spell. So she goes
- 35:29Speaker 4: on YouTube and she writes Bluey. And of course you're
- 35:32Speaker 4: not necessarily going to get full episodes. You're going to
- 35:34Speaker 4: get other things about Bluey, sometimes people making their own
- 35:38Speaker 4: Bluey things, sometimes playing with toys. This one turned out
- 35:41Speaker 4: to be a deep dive into blue It's the fucking
- 35:44Speaker 4: craziest thing. And my kids are sitting there watching this
- 35:47Speaker 4: for about five minutes before I look and I said,
- 35:49Speaker 4: what the hell are you guys looking at?
- 35:50Speaker 1: And it's just some dude.
- 35:51Speaker 4: He's like, well, here are the inconsistencies with the show, Bluey,
- 35:55Speaker 4: and it's riddled with them things just like this. And
- 35:57Speaker 4: he's like, look at the father Bingo as he sits here,
- 36:00Speaker 4: but in the next frame something is off, and he's like,
- 36:02Speaker 4: it shouldn't.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Be that way.
- 36:03Speaker 4: This is a strange oversight anyway, And I'm watching this
- 36:07Speaker 4: and it's just one after another after another. I'm like,
- 36:09Speaker 4: this fucking show is riddled with these things. And then
- 36:12Speaker 4: I started thinking the same thing. I'm like, I understand
- 36:15Speaker 4: animation to a certain level. I'm a graphic artist, but
- 36:18Speaker 4: I'm like, to get that wrong, you would have had
- 36:20Speaker 4: to intentionally design and draw a whole nother set, because
- 36:24Speaker 4: it doesn't this makes sense to get this one detail.
- 36:26Speaker 4: This is an asset that you would reuse in the
- 36:29Speaker 4: same spot always to redo. It is like intentional, and
- 36:33Speaker 4: that's what they did. I was like, get the fuck
- 36:35Speaker 4: out of here, man. I'm like, now I can't show
- 36:36Speaker 4: my kids Bluey. It's crazy.
- 36:37Speaker 7: I was watching YouTube with my son and all of
- 36:40Speaker 7: a sudden.
- 36:41Speaker 3: The next video that popped up that was recommended to
- 36:43Speaker 3: him was ipet goat.
- 36:45Speaker 7: Two, which is like super good Z.
- 36:48Speaker 3: That was recommended to him, And so I was able
- 36:50Speaker 3: to sit down with my son for the first like
- 36:53Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you end up pausing so much
- 36:56Speaker 3: and then and then and you know, establishing what all
- 36:59Speaker 3: these symbols mean, and a lot of it goes over
- 37:01Speaker 3: my head. But I'm still trying to explain to my son, like, look,
- 37:03Speaker 3: this is what he's nine years old. I'm just ruining him.
- 37:06Speaker 3: This is what symbols convey. These are all the different meanings.
- 37:09Speaker 3: And this is why it's a more effective form of
- 37:12Speaker 3: communication than spoken word, because one symbol can have so
- 37:15Speaker 3: many meanings and in conjunction with other symbols, there's a
- 37:18Speaker 3: never ending, you know, amount of branches you can go on.
- 37:21Speaker 7: But we were talking to Dave Snedeker, who used to.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Be a Hollywood guy, and oh yeah, one of the
- 37:29Speaker 3: things that he highlighted was like, you.
- 37:31Speaker 4: Hold on, wait, before you get into that, let's let
- 37:33Speaker 4: the people know because we're well past thirty minutes.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty nine minutes. We gave them ten extra minutes, guys,
- 37:38Speaker 3: We are now cutting the stream to YouTube rumble elsewhere.
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- 37:57Speaker 7: Bye bye, So Snedeker.
- 38:00Speaker 3: One of the things that he highlights is that, you know,
- 38:03Speaker 3: in filmmaking, what's the what's the word continuity? I think
- 38:07Speaker 3: it's continuity. So so it's so important to have continuity
- 38:11Speaker 3: from one scene to the next scene. In other words,
- 38:13Speaker 3: if it's a cloud, it's if it's an overcast sky
- 38:15Speaker 3: in one shot and the next shot is still in that.
- 38:18Speaker 4: This one's gonna blow your mind, dude when he tells
- 38:20Speaker 4: you this shit.
- 38:22Speaker 3: What the uh? What I tell about the yeah, dude.
- 38:25Speaker 3: So basically what he does is that's the the anchor point.
- 38:28Speaker 3: It's like, look, you're looking for continuity from one scene
- 38:30Speaker 3: to the next. If the watches on the left wrist
- 38:32Speaker 3: in one scene, it had better be on the left
- 38:34Speaker 3: wrist in another scene. If there is overcast in one scene,
- 38:37Speaker 3: and and the camera switches, a frame switches, it had
- 38:40Speaker 3: still better be overcast, which he explained sometimes that's the
- 38:43Speaker 3: reason why they're in a rush to get these because
- 38:45Speaker 3: it's weather dependent, right, you need that. Everybody knows continuity
- 38:48Speaker 3: is is incredibly important. So for somebody like Kubert to
- 38:52Speaker 3: deviate from that is is, you know, strange, what are
- 38:54Speaker 3: you trying to do here? But what he shows us
- 38:57Speaker 3: is that in Joe Biden's inauguration there is really grotesque
- 39:03Speaker 3: examples of of you know, non continuity from one moment
- 39:08Speaker 3: to the next. In fact, he shows us this video
- 39:11Speaker 3: where where Hunter Biden is standing in one place and
- 39:14Speaker 3: the scene switches or the frame switches, and he's completely
- 39:18Speaker 3: in a different location. Oh, you actually have it?
- 39:20Speaker 4: Yeah, let me see. Okay, I think this is a scene. Yeah,
- 39:23Speaker 4: so he's on uh, he should be on this side.
- 39:27Speaker 4: And this is filmed live right allegedly.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Yeah, And then when the scene switches because he walks
- 39:35Speaker 3: off right or something like that.
- 39:38Speaker 1: It's like a crossfade that goes.
- 39:40Speaker 3: On cross fade and then it goes and then he's
- 39:42Speaker 3: in a completely different location. That's not it yet, this
- 39:45Speaker 3: is it. He's going to walk away and then they'll
- 39:46Speaker 3: cross fade and then Hunter Biden is a completely different location.
- 39:52Speaker 4: So he steps down. He should be on the left
- 39:54Speaker 4: of Joe as he steps down. Now here's the here's
- 39:57Speaker 4: a crossfade. Well he's talking, he's.
- 40:00Speaker 3: Talking through it. Boom boom boom.
- 40:02Speaker 4: Yeah, this is great. This is really great TV that
- 40:05Speaker 4: we're showing people.
- 40:08Speaker 3: You really want to watch this one, all right, not
- 40:10Speaker 3: a listening one. Watch it and then.
- 40:12Speaker 4: See boom, so as show him he's on the he's
- 40:16Speaker 4: on the wrong side of Joe Biden.
- 40:19Speaker 1: Is basically what's going on here?
- 40:21Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I forget which moment it is, but but
- 40:25Speaker 3: either way that that is Needteker and he, like I said,
- 40:27Speaker 3: used to be a filmmaker. And so when when we're
- 40:32Speaker 3: saying here that it's not sloppy, like all these things
- 40:35Speaker 3: are done on purpose, there's somebody who they pay a
- 40:38Speaker 3: lot of money to put every single thing in the
- 40:40Speaker 3: background in a very particular way, very particular, you know
- 40:43Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like set designers get paid a lot.
- 40:46Speaker 3: It's a very important thing to them. This is not
- 40:48Speaker 3: something that you would just overlook. And then you said
- 40:51Speaker 3: writer that there's like upwards of like seven instances or
- 40:55Speaker 3: seventy instances of this, like that's not an accident at all,
- 40:58Speaker 3: and then you have to ask the question, what on
- 41:00Speaker 3: earth is Kubrick trying to express by these inconsistencies.
- 41:05Speaker 6: Yeah, I would, I have to absolutely agree. I mean,
- 41:08Speaker 6: the way that you could get away with that with
- 41:10Speaker 6: the Hunter Biden thing is if you just flipped the
- 41:14Speaker 6: video to the opposite direction, so you could just irritate. Yeah,
- 41:18Speaker 6: you could just mirrored it or like turn it around,
- 41:21Speaker 6: but I'm not sure. I'd have to look into that
- 41:23Speaker 6: one more. But yeah, the Shining is completely just riddled
- 41:27Speaker 6: with all of these inconsistencies, continuity errors, earlier setups in
- 41:34Speaker 6: the movie for things that are being paid off later
- 41:37Speaker 6: on in the movie, like whenever the doctor comes to
- 41:41Speaker 6: visit Danny, Danny's lane on a Teddy Bear, there's teddy
- 41:44Speaker 6: bear freaking paintings on the wall to overlook hotel, and
- 41:49Speaker 6: then later on whenever Wendy's She's essentially been traumatized because
- 41:54Speaker 6: Wendy hasn't been gotten to the degree that Danny and
- 41:58Speaker 6: Jack are at because the reason that Danny has his
- 42:02Speaker 6: ability is to be able to do anything is because
- 42:04Speaker 6: of the abuse that he's suffered by Jack, and this
- 42:07Speaker 6: is explained in the beginning of the movie between the
- 42:10Speaker 6: doctor Wendy, and Wendy that comes to visit.
- 42:12Speaker 5: Them in their apartment in Boulder.
- 42:15Speaker 6: The doctor asked her when when did these When did
- 42:18Speaker 6: he start showing these types of signs? When did he
- 42:20Speaker 6: start having these issues or these problems, because they're calling.
- 42:23Speaker 5: Them problems and they're not really the problems there.
- 42:25Speaker 6: He's essentially being able to remote view and like see
- 42:29Speaker 6: events that are going to happen in the future is
- 42:31Speaker 6: essentially what it is. And she's like, well, when did
- 42:34Speaker 6: he start experiencing this kind of stuff? And then Wendy says, well,
- 42:37Speaker 6: it wasn't long after Jack had hurt Danny's arm. Essentially,
- 42:44Speaker 6: that's not the exact verbatim words, I'm paraphrasing it, but
- 42:48Speaker 6: he started experiencing these problems whenever Jack injured Danny's arm.
- 42:51Speaker 6: And then Jack later on admits that to Lloyd the bartender.
- 42:55Speaker 6: He first off he says, oh, well, I didn't touch him,
- 42:58Speaker 6: and then he was like, oh, maybe I had, Maybe
- 43:00Speaker 6: I got him one time, but it was an accident.
- 43:03Speaker 6: It was four and amn years ago, which is another
- 43:06Speaker 6: there's dialogue continuity errors as well, because Wendy says in
- 43:10Speaker 6: the movie that Jack had been sober since the time
- 43:14Speaker 6: that he had hurt Danny's arm, and then Jack says
- 43:18Speaker 6: that it was I think he says that it was
- 43:21Speaker 6: three or four years ago, so it didn't make any
- 43:23Speaker 6: sense because Jack had only been sober for five months.
- 43:29Speaker 6: So it's a dialogue air. And there's other dialogue airs
- 43:31Speaker 6: as well in the movie. There's one with Grady, which
- 43:37Speaker 6: is the theory that there's two different Grady's in the movie,
- 43:40Speaker 6: but one that I didn't even catch that was brought
- 43:44Speaker 6: up whenever we had Mark Devlin on the show, because
- 43:46Speaker 6: Mark Devlin's in the documentary. We have Kathy O'Brien, which
- 43:50Speaker 6: is MK Ultra Mind Control Survivor. We have Joe Otwell,
- 43:54Speaker 6: which is an author and a researcher. We have Mark Devlin,
- 43:57Speaker 6: which is an author and researcher in his delved into
- 44:00Speaker 6: the music industry. That we have Walter Bosley, which is
- 44:03Speaker 6: a a FOSI former Air Force intelligence agent. They're all
- 44:08Speaker 6: in the movie, including me and uh and Jay Wider.
- 44:11Speaker 6: But Mark, brought up in our interview is the reason
- 44:15Speaker 6: why Grady's name changes throughout the movie. So whenever Jack
- 44:21Speaker 6: is sitting down for the interview with Ollmen. Allmend says that, uh,
- 44:30Speaker 6: he says Grady, he says his full name. Sorry, I'm
- 44:34Speaker 6: blinking on the exact name that he calls him.
- 44:37Speaker 5: He says, uh, fuck.
- 44:41Speaker 6: So later Grady calls himself Delberg Grady. So Jack has
- 44:45Speaker 6: seen Delbur Grady. Don't I know you from somewhere. I've
- 44:48Speaker 6: seen you around the hotel before. I've seen your pictures
- 44:50Speaker 6: on the wall, But we've never seen any picture of
- 44:53Speaker 6: Delburg Grady. But there was actually a scene that was
- 44:55Speaker 6: cut out of the movie of the Shining that Stanley
- 44:58Speaker 6: Kubrick actually filmed, which was Jack whenever he went down
- 45:01Speaker 6: into the basement, he found a scrap book of all
- 45:05Speaker 6: the events that had happened up at the Overlook Hotel.
- 45:08Speaker 6: So that's like a scene that was cut out, which
- 45:11Speaker 6: didn't make any sense because he says that he had
- 45:14Speaker 6: seen Delbert Grady's picture around the hotel, and the only
- 45:19Speaker 6: way that he would have seen that picture is if
- 45:20Speaker 6: he would have found the scrap book that was in
- 45:22Speaker 6: the basement, which was the scene that was cut out.
- 45:24Speaker 6: So there's remnants of that scene still being in there.
- 45:28Speaker 6: Later on in the movie whenever they're in the bathroom,
- 45:32Speaker 6: and then before.
- 45:33Speaker 1: It there's a reason, so he had a different name
- 45:36Speaker 1: in the book.
- 45:36Speaker 4: It's not the same name from the Stephen King book.
- 45:40Speaker 4: I think it was Delbert, and then it's Charles in
- 45:43Speaker 4: one version for whatever reason, and then it does it's
- 45:46Speaker 4: a weird slip, right, like they kind of like forget
- 45:50Speaker 4: that they did that.
- 45:52Speaker 6: That's right, it was Charles, Charles Grady. Whenever Allman was
- 45:55Speaker 6: saying talking to Jack, he said, the former caretaker, Charles Grady,
- 45:59Speaker 6: we had up here, ordered his his wife and his
- 46:01Speaker 6: two daughters. And then later whenever Jack and Grady is
- 46:05Speaker 6: in the in the bathroom and just cleaning the alcohol
- 46:08Speaker 6: off of Jack's blazer, he refers to himself as Delbert Grady.
- 46:16Speaker 4: Delbert is his name in the book. If because I
- 46:18Speaker 4: love Stephen King, I hate his politics. I think he's
- 46:21Speaker 4: a huge homo, but I just really like his writing
- 46:25Speaker 4: The Dark Tower or whatever.
- 46:26Speaker 3: I do.
- 46:27Speaker 4: Remember it's Delbert in the book and it's Charles. So yeah,
- 46:31Speaker 4: it's like they so they they intentionally he goes through
- 46:34Speaker 4: the trouble of changing this guy's name for really no reason,
- 46:36Speaker 4: because it's not even a real character in this in
- 46:39Speaker 4: this uh play, in this book or movie and then
- 46:43Speaker 4: accidentally like what would be the term mandela affecting himself Like.
- 46:50Speaker 1: I don't, I don't get it.
- 46:51Speaker 3: It's almost like a Mandela effect.
- 46:52Speaker 1: It's extremely jarring for anybody who is.
- 46:56Speaker 3: If he is creating all these inconsistencies in the hopes
- 47:01Speaker 3: that someone would notice, And if you notice, then you
- 47:04Speaker 3: might start looking for more inconsistencies. And to your point, writer,
- 47:08Speaker 3: it seems to be riddled with them. And then if
- 47:11Speaker 3: you're looking for those things and you're no longer paying
- 47:14Speaker 3: attention to the story, well then you might pick up
- 47:17Speaker 3: on the other one. So do you think it's a
- 47:19Speaker 3: form of like breadcrumbs left for the viewer so that
- 47:22Speaker 3: you will be cued.
- 47:23Speaker 7: Into the idea that something else is happening.
- 47:27Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a because whenever I was making the movie,
- 47:31Speaker 6: I originally wanted to make the movie, and I was
- 47:36Speaker 6: watching the Shining over and over and over again, and
- 47:39Speaker 6: I wasn't really privy to any of the other theories
- 47:41Speaker 6: surrounding the Shining Stars. Just watching the movie over and
- 47:44Speaker 6: over and over again, I'm trying to figure out and
- 47:46Speaker 6: see things that maybe no one had ever seen before.
- 47:50Speaker 6: And I believe that I did find things that no
- 47:53Speaker 6: one had ever seen before in the background of the
- 47:57Speaker 6: Gold Room. Hold on, let me try and okay, we're
- 48:01Speaker 6: on we're on on sunsory platform, right. Oh yeah, okay,
- 48:05Speaker 6: so if you want to screenshore.
- 48:07Speaker 1: This, oh that's right here.
- 48:10Speaker 6: So in the background of the Gold Room.
- 48:12Speaker 5: Whenever uh, they're being.
- 48:14Speaker 6: Walked through elementals giving them a tour of the Gold Room,
- 48:18Speaker 6: there's a fucking Nazi swastika in the background of the
- 48:24Speaker 6: Gold Room on the wall.
- 48:26Speaker 1: Nazis love their symbology, dude.
- 48:28Speaker 6: Yeah, and where did where did mind control in the
- 48:32Speaker 6: MK Ultra start?
- 48:35Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a shame that the Nazis get lumped
- 48:38Speaker 4: in with racism and like like politics, because like they
- 48:43Speaker 4: really do shine with their occult symbolism and and that
- 48:46Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
- 48:47Speaker 1: There ties to me and feto me.
- 48:48Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's everybody's mad because they're they're they're racism, Like
- 48:51Speaker 3: you should be mad because they're occultists and yeah, and
- 48:55Speaker 3: they're clearly trying to do something pretty nefarious.
- 49:00Speaker 4: I mean, you're like channeling channeling ancient Atlanians and shit
- 49:03Speaker 4: like that. No problem, But did you hear about how
- 49:07Speaker 4: they felt about the Blacks, like all right, it's like
- 49:09Speaker 4: that's not good.
- 49:10Speaker 3: We're missing it. We're missing it here. Yeah, I see this.
- 49:15Speaker 3: I mean I wonder if why do.
- 49:17Speaker 4: You think, why do you think he put it here?
- 49:19Speaker 4: Because for me, it's like it's got to be the
- 49:20Speaker 4: occult symbolism of the Nazis, Like he's paying respect to
- 49:23Speaker 4: these these dudes who are looking for you know, uh,
- 49:27Speaker 4: this the spear of destiny that killed Jesus or that
- 49:29Speaker 4: you know, poked him inside.
- 49:30Speaker 3: Because it could be a nod to that, that MK ultra.
- 49:33Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's where it got its roots in
- 49:35Speaker 3: very many ways. And this is what you're doing. I
- 49:37Speaker 3: mean you're literally doing that to the actress in real time, right,
- 49:41Speaker 3: You're you're manipulating her via trauma. And so yeah, I
- 49:48Speaker 3: mean maybe maybe that's what it is.
- 49:50Speaker 6: I think that it was one hundred percent house to
- 49:53Speaker 6: do with a nod to the the MK ultra programs
- 49:56Speaker 6: that were started in in Nazi Germany during that time.
- 50:00Speaker 6: I mean there's other things as well that revolve around this.
- 50:04Speaker 6: Whenever Jack is in the gold Room and he's talking
- 50:07Speaker 6: to Lloyd the bartender, there's a lady that walks past
- 50:12Speaker 6: that has like this this outline of a bloody handprint
- 50:16Speaker 6: that's on her ass. Not people have said that this
- 50:19Speaker 6: is I was the first person to see this. I
- 50:21Speaker 6: was the only person that ever pointed this and pointed
- 50:23Speaker 6: this out like two years ago with Jay Winer on
- 50:25Speaker 6: my show, before we even met our documentary. It looks
- 50:27Speaker 6: like exactly, that's exactly what it is. Tom Hanks and
- 50:31Speaker 6: the Wilson volleyball, the four fingerprint thing. You can look
- 50:35Speaker 6: into freaking Tom Hanks and see all the weird ship
- 50:39Speaker 6: that he's been into, and then you know.
- 50:41Speaker 1: You go back to that, Yeah, yeah, there it is.
- 50:43Speaker 3: And then what do you suggest that that that that
- 50:47Speaker 3: bloody handprint is is actually representative of one in particular
- 50:51Speaker 3: torture victim, a child who would have been, you know,
- 50:55Speaker 3: the recipient of just horrifying things in an Epstein esque
- 50:59Speaker 3: kind of a scenario. Uh. And and they even allege
- 51:02Speaker 3: that people like Ellen DeGeneres and I think Jay z
- 51:05Speaker 3: and and a few others pay homage to that moment.
- 51:10Speaker 3: You'll see this this bloody handprint face thing and a
- 51:13Speaker 3: lot of things, and they'll wear it on a sweater
- 51:17Speaker 3: and there's resemblance. It's not quite the same thing, but
- 51:19Speaker 3: it does bear resemblance. It's a face and it's it's bloodied.
- 51:23Speaker 3: I've also seen it blown up as artwork, I think
- 51:26Speaker 3: in like Jay Z's house or somebody like that. I
- 51:28Speaker 3: think even maybe Tony Podesta. So I mean, yeah, this
- 51:31Speaker 3: this all becomes I mean, that just got real messy,
- 51:34Speaker 3: real quick.
- 51:36Speaker 6: It did. And that's one of the first things that
- 51:38Speaker 6: that I had seen while I was watching the movie
- 51:41Speaker 6: that no one else had ever brought up or ever
- 51:43Speaker 6: noticed before. And and with anything.
- 51:46Speaker 7: Too, like now that you see it's blatant.
- 51:48Speaker 6: Yeah, with anything that you first discovered, there's always people
- 51:51Speaker 6: that's gonna come out and try and say that's not
- 51:54Speaker 6: what it is because they're jealous that they're when they
- 51:56Speaker 6: didn't see it first, right, They're like, oh, that's not
- 51:59Speaker 6: that's it's just a part of the dross that's just
- 52:01Speaker 6: made into the dress. Well, regardless if it's a part
- 52:03Speaker 6: of the dress, were made into the dress. Cuba put
- 52:06Speaker 6: this costume designer to put a freaking the shape of
- 52:09Speaker 6: a bloody handprint on the back of this woman's dress
- 52:12Speaker 6: and it just happens to be on her ass, Like, right,
- 52:14Speaker 6: weren't her asses?
- 52:15Speaker 3: Yeah, but give me a break, great catch, great catch. Yeah,
- 52:19Speaker 3: I mean I mean as soon as you pointed it out,
- 52:21Speaker 3: that's where my mind went straight to the Wilson volleyball.
- 52:24Speaker 3: And like I said, it, it gets messy because the
- 52:27Speaker 3: implications of that are are massive. When did Castaway come out?
- 52:32Speaker 3: So when if this thousand I believe two thousand, and
- 52:35Speaker 3: when did The Shining come out?
- 52:37Speaker 6: Nineteen eighty?
- 52:39Speaker 5: Wow?
- 52:40Speaker 1: This is as a very long game.
- 52:42Speaker 3: It's a game. It really.
- 52:45Speaker 4: It makes me think though, like like damn, like as
- 52:47Speaker 4: as we're uncovering, like you did it, when did your
- 52:49Speaker 4: documentary about this release.
- 52:52Speaker 6: Release last year? Released the day before the election.
- 52:55Speaker 4: It's almost like almost fifty years fifty they've been Yeah,
- 53:00Speaker 4: I mean other people have been talking about it, of course, but.
- 53:02Speaker 3: You know, but I was saying to writer earlier, like
- 53:05Speaker 3: Kubrick Films, The Shining in particular is like, you know,
- 53:08Speaker 3: you think about a video game and its replay value.
- 53:11Speaker 3: This film has replay value and it just keeps giving.
- 53:15Speaker 6: It does it keeps giving and giving and giving it.
- 53:17Speaker 6: There's a movie that doesn't doesn't stop giving.
- 53:21Speaker 3: And it's in that way you look at Cubric and
- 53:24Speaker 3: it's like he's a he's a master.
- 53:28Speaker 6: He's a master, he's a master filmmaker, and he can
- 53:31Speaker 6: slide things in there that people won't notice.
- 53:33Speaker 5: For years and years and years.
- 53:35Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I mean to the fact that we
- 53:39Speaker 6: can still watch the movie and find new things within
- 53:43Speaker 6: the movie that no one has ever seen before. Because
- 53:45Speaker 6: that was going to be that was my hurdle, right,
- 53:49Speaker 6: because I wasn't going to make the movie if I
- 53:53Speaker 6: was just going to be rehashing everyone's previously established theories, right.
- 54:00Speaker 6: And as I was watching it, this was the first
- 54:03Speaker 6: thing that I seen. And then I seen the swastika
- 54:08Speaker 6: in the background of the gold room. And then the
- 54:11Speaker 6: one thing that people really bring up a lot, but
- 54:15Speaker 6: they've misinterpreted is this photo right here. So whenever Danny
- 54:22Speaker 6: is in the games room and you're throwing darts at
- 54:23Speaker 6: the dartboard, he turns around and he sees the two
- 54:26Speaker 6: little girls, which is the twins. There's a lot of
- 54:28Speaker 6: eleven symbolism.
- 54:29Speaker 5: In the movie.
- 54:30Speaker 6: There's elevens everywhere. You got the twins right here that
- 54:33Speaker 6: are representing the eleven. You got the double doors behind
- 54:35Speaker 6: them that's also presenting the love in pretty much all
- 54:38Speaker 6: the doors in the entire hotel are two doors. There
- 54:40Speaker 6: are two double doors eleven the.
- 54:42Speaker 7: Light writer that Stranger Things.
- 54:46Speaker 3: The main character is eleven, and that is a trauma
- 54:48Speaker 3: based mk ultra you know, mind control entities on the
- 54:51Speaker 3: other side of the veil kind of a situation.
- 54:53Speaker 6: That's exactly right.
- 54:55Speaker 1: What's even stranger to is that?
- 54:56Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to get real, like supernatural
- 54:59Speaker 4: with it, Eleven they referred to or as l and
- 55:02Speaker 4: that's like an abbreviation of elohem, which would be full
- 55:06Speaker 4: if anything, from fallen angels to God the Creator. So yeah,
- 55:11Speaker 4: it's man, it's this shiic goes super deep, super super deep.
- 55:16Speaker 3: It's the nine to eleven thing too, right, I mean
- 55:18Speaker 3: they it's everywhere the buildings were they had names. Actually,
- 55:23Speaker 3: each individual tower had a name. They were considered like twins.
- 55:26Speaker 3: It was I forget exactly how that went, but yeah,
- 55:30Speaker 3: that so, I mean that eleven symbolism was done to
- 55:32Speaker 3: us on nine eleven two.
- 55:34Speaker 6: Yeah, the twin Towers, the twins in this movie, the
- 55:37Speaker 6: double Doors lives looking like Eleven's like, it's it's insane
- 55:40Speaker 6: whenever you look at all the eleven types of symbolism
- 55:43Speaker 6: within the Shining But this poster on the wall that's
- 55:45Speaker 6: in the background. People have pointed this all. This wasn't
- 55:49Speaker 6: something that I had seen. Others have pointed out this
- 55:51Speaker 6: poster before, but they got the meaning of what the
- 55:54Speaker 6: poster actually is wrong, and they think that it's referring
- 55:57Speaker 6: to the They they look at the poster and they
- 56:01Speaker 6: see the ski this guy and the ski looks like
- 56:04Speaker 6: you're skiing or whatever, and they bring but also they
- 56:07Speaker 6: think that it looks like a menotaur, which you have
- 56:10Speaker 6: like the famous Cubrick stairs that are prominent in his movies.
- 56:15Speaker 6: You had it in a clockwork Orange where Alex was
- 56:18Speaker 6: doing you know that stare that they do where they
- 56:20Speaker 6: bring the rye, they nod their head down and they
- 56:22Speaker 6: what's their eyes up?
- 56:24Speaker 1: Sampouku i or something like that.
- 56:26Speaker 3: Yeah, it's where you could see the whites of their
- 56:27Speaker 3: eyes on the bottom predominantly.
- 56:30Speaker 6: Yes, And that's also in full metal jacket. That's in
- 56:33Speaker 6: the Shining Cubrit does.
- 56:35Speaker 3: It all the time as well. Trump did it, and
- 56:37Speaker 3: obviously the painting of Lucifer is one of the more
- 56:39Speaker 3: famous examples of that. I forget who painted that. I
- 56:43Speaker 3: don't know if it was DaVinci or Michelangel or whatever,
- 56:45Speaker 3: but he is doing this kind of like you know,
- 56:49Speaker 3: it's it's indicative of like vengeance or something like that.
- 56:53Speaker 6: So when you take this poster for what it actually
- 56:55Speaker 6: means and you analyze.
- 56:58Speaker 5: The word monarchy, you have monarch.
- 57:01Speaker 6: Mk ultra right right right, so exactly, so you have
- 57:07Speaker 6: you have monarch mk ultra. You have Jack writing out
- 57:12Speaker 6: over and over and over again the same phrase, and
- 57:14Speaker 6: Windy comes in and finds it, and then Jack's then
- 57:17Speaker 6: triggered to do violence and try and murder his family
- 57:21Speaker 6: after that, which is a psychic driving technique that is
- 57:25Speaker 6: done where they would basically imprint. It's a famous technique
- 57:30Speaker 6: that was developed in Canada that they would take a
- 57:34Speaker 6: looped audio message into a room and have the subject
- 57:38Speaker 6: or the patient listen to the looped audio message over
- 57:41Speaker 6: and over and over again, so then it just gets
- 57:44Speaker 6: stuck in their head. So that's what they're doing to Jack.
- 57:47Speaker 6: They're essentially making him write the same thing over and
- 57:51Speaker 6: over and over again. And we see evidence of that
- 57:53Speaker 6: with sir Han. Sirhan which assassin was said to us
- 57:57Speaker 6: assassinated RFK. He did the same thing over and over
- 58:03Speaker 6: and over again in his notebook rfkmist die rfkm ustye
- 58:06Speaker 6: over and over and over again. And Jack is doing
- 58:08Speaker 6: his own version of that same exact technique, which a
- 58:11Speaker 6: psychic driving. He's all working, no play makes Jack a
- 58:14Speaker 6: doll boy. All work and no play makes Jack a
- 58:16Speaker 6: doll boy. It's the same exact technique. And then when
- 58:20Speaker 6: Windy comes in and sees it, he's just he's not
- 58:22Speaker 6: really writing a novel, He's just writing the same words
- 58:25Speaker 6: over and over and over again. He then becomes he
- 58:28Speaker 6: gets triggered. Yeah mk Ultramanchurian style candidate. Trigger that makes
- 58:34Speaker 6: him want to murder Wendy and Danny.
- 58:38Speaker 3: The image on the poster reminds me of like the
- 58:40Speaker 3: kind of the Lucifer, the morning Star, the light bearer,
- 58:43Speaker 3: the Promethean kind of a situation. It's like this man
- 58:46Speaker 3: carrying the light, but all these things, there's spells at
- 58:51Speaker 3: the end of the day. I mean, you were talking
- 58:53Speaker 3: before about how you know, not only are they doing
- 58:55Speaker 3: this to the actress while they're going through it, but
- 58:59Speaker 3: also it's is that clockwork orange is having this effect
- 59:02Speaker 3: wherever it's playing that suddenly, you know, violence is happening
- 59:06Speaker 3: around the areas where it's released, to the point where
- 59:08Speaker 3: they even remove it from the UK. That to me,
- 59:12Speaker 3: sounds just like at some point the music industry hijacked.
- 59:20Speaker 7: Predominantly black music.
- 59:21Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's happened, but with hip hop in particular,
- 59:26Speaker 3: it wasn't always like this. Violence adduled sort of like
- 59:31Speaker 3: drug use, gang banging, disrespect to women, that kind of
- 59:36Speaker 3: a thing. It didn't used to be that when it
- 59:38Speaker 3: first happened. And then it seems like at some point
- 59:41Speaker 3: you can speculate as to why it's a prison industrial
- 59:43Speaker 3: complex trying to create a situation we're going to end
- 59:47Speaker 3: up imprisoning more black people because they get paid, or
- 59:49Speaker 3: or the crack epidemic right funding, the Iran contra wars,
- 59:52Speaker 3: all these things doesn't really matter. What eventually happens is
- 59:57Speaker 3: let's just put it in the most generous light possible.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: They realize that violence, drug use, and things of that
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: nature sell very well, and so then what happens is
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: their artists start pushing that because look, if you're a
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: record label, like you got Talent, Kid, you just got
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: to change your messaging.
- 1:00:18Speaker 7: We know what works.
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: And then eventually what happens is where the art form
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: used to be a reflection of the culture, it then
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: mirrors itself back and the culture becomes a product of
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: the art form. So where the art form is now
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: pushing out into the world violence and you know, women
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: abuse and drug usage and glorifying like being in prison
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: and things like that, then the culture starts to emulate it.
- 1:00:43Speaker 7: So it becomes this like feedback loop.
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: And if you can do that to an entire community
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: of people and hijack a culture like that, well then
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: maybe you could do that with like world events. Maybe
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: if you could embed your plans for what's going to
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: happen in the future and enough of your media and
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: aim that at people, maybe somehow there's this exchange back
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: and we can kind of manifest these things. It's spellcraft,
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: it's just not in the way that we think about
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: spellcraft when you think about I don't know, like the
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: way children's cartoons or something presents it.
- 1:01:16Speaker 6: There's a lot of that too, with like double speak
- 1:01:18Speaker 6: within the community the you know, where people will mention
- 1:01:24Speaker 6: one thing but they mean something completely different, but the
- 1:01:28Speaker 6: audience and the people that are listening have a different interpretation.
- 1:01:31Speaker 6: And I think that it's a surface level when they
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: actually mean something, you know, I mean, look at the
- 1:01:36Speaker 6: alien invasion stuff. I mean, how long have people been
- 1:01:39Speaker 6: talking about an alien invasion. Well, we had an alien invasion.
- 1:01:43Speaker 6: It happened in twenty twenty, Biden, let it happen. It
- 1:01:46Speaker 6: came across our borders. When you're in another country, you're
- 1:01:50Speaker 6: considered an alien. If I were to go to any
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: other country right now, and I'm not a citizen of
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: that country, I'm an alien. I'm an alien there. I
- 1:02:00Speaker 6: am foreign to that country, I am not from there.
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: So we have this crisis where everyone's talking about, you know,
- 1:02:08Speaker 6: the big alien invasion, and then you know, Trump comes
- 1:02:12Speaker 6: in and is like, well, let's deport all these people
- 1:02:15Speaker 6: back to where they're from. So Trump came in and
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: defeated the freaking aliens. Dude, it's it's it's mind it's
- 1:02:20Speaker 6: word magic, mind fuckery. Well, it's all that it is.
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: Reagan said like, oh, if we wanted to have some
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: kind of like world government, we would it would take
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: something like an alien invasion. Never thought about it among
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: those lines.
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it is a very literal though, And by
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: that I mean like people have pretty well established that
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: before nine to eleven happened, we were just constantly absorbing
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: media that was about the towers getting attacked. It and
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: it showed up in so many different ways, you know,
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: all the way from like the Simpsons to I don't know,
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: whatever you name the show. And in hindsight, Hindsight's twenty twenty,
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: we can look back and be like, now that the
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: towers are gone, this magazine is really strange, or this
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: episode of this show is really strange, or this film
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: or this you know whatever. And we ended up finding
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: that there was a lot of it. And so I
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: don't know what purpose that serves you. You can only kind
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: of speculate, but it's it seems like on some level
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: it's communications with those in the know. On another destroyed,
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: it's because the towers are gonna get destroyed. And then
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: sometimes maybe it's it's a little bit different where you
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: know your alien analogy works.
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: Right, I see you're about to pull up another another
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: uh still here, But I wanted to say before I
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: forget the eleven stuff. Crowley, that's like big in Thalima.
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: I think the do as that will will be the
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: whole of the law. Like He's like made sure it
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: had eleven words in it. Eleven was like a divine
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: number to the you know, to Thelema, to Crowley, and yes,
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: Crowley ice, and.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: It's also shows up in Kabala.
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: It's something like uh in their uh sort of numerology,
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: it means uh. It's the space. It's this supernatural space
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: between like human understanding and this like esoteric world. That's
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: what they that's what they thought eleven was.
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: So it also has something to do with like the
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: Pillars of Solomon in some way. There's these two pillars
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: I'm reading it here made of bronze that stood in
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: front of the entrance to Solomon's temple in Jerusalem. And
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: then it's like on nine to eleven, who took out
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: that gigantic insurance claim. Uh, I know, I know the
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: Solomon Brothers had something to do. Their name gets brought
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: up or that name gets brought up in the nine
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: to eleven situation. Here. Let me see if I can
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: find it.
- 1:04:44Speaker 6: Solomon makes me think of solomonca from Breaking Bad.
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I just yes, Okay, Solomon Brothers was building seven,
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: the Solomon Brothers building. Okay, so you know the Pillars
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: of Solomon, the Solomon Brothers. Yeah, this is there's like
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: it's a big The number eleven is is like the
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: nuvirological representation of the Pillars of Solomon. Yeah, there's there's
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: something there.
- 1:05:11Speaker 6: It also refers to Janice, the god Janis, the androgynous
- 1:05:16Speaker 6: god Jenis.
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, doesn't it doesn't it have two faces?
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: Yes, yes, nef one shit baby.
- 1:05:23Speaker 6: And then when you look at you know, what they
- 1:05:25Speaker 6: were trying to be, you know, pushing for the past
- 1:05:28Speaker 6: long time now is like essentially androgynya. Yeah, mixing of
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: the genders.
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: And then when it's when those two genders are destroyed,
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: what takes their place is one unified thing. So two
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: become one. It becomes this intersex kind of a situation.
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah.
- 1:05:45Speaker 6: And then like hermaphrodite type situation. And then you look
- 1:05:48Speaker 6: at Joseph Mingela during World War two and some of
- 1:05:52Speaker 6: the Nazi experiments on twins.
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm. Yeah, he was a weird guy. He's
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: obsessed with twins, and he was obsessed with the I
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: learned recently central heterochromia.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: Which apparently here we go.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go into it, but people that have
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: like two.
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: Different tell the people. Go ahead, people, we told me
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: seven times when you have my house, tell the people.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: Did you know that he was injecting adrenaline in people's
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: eyeballs who had central heterochromia, and he was trying to
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: see if it would change that guy, weird cat.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? Central heterochromia? Ever heard
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: of this?
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: It's just basically heterochromia is when you have like me,
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: when you're the best bro like me. It's when one
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: color one eye is one color and another one is
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: another color. And then central heterochroma is where there's two
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: definitive colors in one eye, like there's a ring of
- 1:06:44Speaker 3: color and then an outer ring of color. There you go,
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: I have that, but it's it's not served me at all.
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: But the idea behind it is that people with this
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: sort of genetic trade are harder to MK ultra, maybe
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: because of the flicker rate or.
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: Whatever, have extra cones in their eye. I guess we
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: have extra cones in our eye. Allegedly, the Gates program
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: and k mk Ultra and other programs like that were
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: seeking people out who had this disposition, and I guess
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: the story goes basically they were trying to figure out
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: why in the hell these people won't succumb to this
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: sort of a like the apparently we can't be hypnotized.
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: I've never been hypnotized, but it doesn't mean shit. That's anecdotal.
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's interesting mk Ultra, the Gates program, Mangola,
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: you know it all. It also the eye in general,
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: the eye in general.
- 1:07:35Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really interesting because I have two pupils in
- 1:07:37Speaker 6: my left eye.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: Do you really how does that work?
- 1:07:41Speaker 6: My pupil and my left eye has been split, so
- 1:07:46Speaker 6: the top half of my left eye you wouldn't be
- 1:07:48Speaker 6: able to see the camera quality is not good enough.
- 1:07:50Speaker 6: But the pupil on my left eye, I was shot
- 1:07:52Speaker 6: in the eye with a BB gun when I was
- 1:07:55Speaker 6: twelve years old.
- 1:07:57Speaker 7: That's a nightmare, dude.
- 1:07:58Speaker 5: It was horrible, Dude, it was.
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: I have literally shot two of my friends in the
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: eye with the BB gun. That's my literature.
- 1:08:06Speaker 7: You were that guy, bro, Fuck you O.
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: No, I was literally that guy.
- 1:08:09Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:08:09Speaker 7: That's horrifying. Oh my god, it's split.
- 1:08:12Speaker 6: Your pupil, split my pupil in half. So whenever I
- 1:08:14Speaker 6: go anytime that I ever go to the eye doctor,
- 1:08:17Speaker 6: which I don't really ever go to the eye doctor.
- 1:08:20Speaker 6: I don't go to any doctors in general ever, but
- 1:08:23Speaker 6: whenever I have in the past, they're like astounded by
- 1:08:28Speaker 6: what they can see in my eye because you're they're
- 1:08:31Speaker 6: able to see things that they normally couldn't see because
- 1:08:35Speaker 6: my pupils.
- 1:08:35Speaker 7: Like as it affected your vision a little bit.
- 1:08:39Speaker 6: I mean, if I close my right eye, it's definitely
- 1:08:42Speaker 6: more blurry. But it's I think it's like I don't know,
- 1:08:45Speaker 6: eighteen twenty. Vision is still really good.
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: Vision still really good.
- 1:08:48Speaker 6: Yeah, but it recovered and like the blood was like
- 1:08:52Speaker 6: all like blocked my eye. Also, I couldn't see for
- 1:08:55Speaker 6: like three months out of my left eye.
- 1:08:57Speaker 7: Oh that's such a nightmare.
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: Dude. I have nine year old and I'm just thinking, like,
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: if that happened, holy grad some sort of weird karma
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: for me. Yeah. But this, this, I mean, that's a
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: great bit of connective tissue right between you brought up Mangola.
- 1:09:14Speaker 7: I wonder what it is?
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: What was his do do you have any information about
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: what his fascination regarding twins was was it? Was it
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: the alleged psychic connection that exists between twins.
- 1:09:25Speaker 6: I think that that's what he was trying to figure out.
- 1:09:27Speaker 6: But it's difficult to find a lot of information on
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: it because a lot of it is like a bunch
- 1:09:32Speaker 6: of speculation and what in like secondhand information on exactly
- 1:09:38Speaker 6: the types of experiments that he was doing. There's really
- 1:09:42Speaker 6: no solid like documentation that shows exactly what he was
- 1:09:49Speaker 6: doing with twins, so it's kind of like handed down information,
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: and that information has kind of been regurgitated, and we
- 1:09:54Speaker 6: know when things are regurgitated, things get lost in the
- 1:09:57Speaker 6: shuffle and things get added or things get taken away
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: from so it becomes like this this kind of mystery thing.
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: But it's been reported by several people that he was
- 1:10:09Speaker 6: doing experiments on twins, So what exactly it was for.
- 1:10:14Speaker 6: I would be guessing that it had something to do
- 1:10:16Speaker 6: with the psychic communication between them and if they would
- 1:10:20Speaker 6: be able to tell what was going on to the
- 1:10:22Speaker 6: other one, which then relates into mk ultra as well,
- 1:10:25Speaker 6: because that's what they were trying to do with mk
- 1:10:28Speaker 6: ultra ultimately, was to try and bring about these psychic
- 1:10:32Speaker 6: abilities and these psychic powers from the mind fracturing that
- 1:10:36Speaker 6: they were doing. It was kind of like an after effect.
- 1:10:38Speaker 6: It was kind of like an afterthought like, yeah, well,
- 1:10:41Speaker 6: let's see if we can control their mind, let's traumatize them,
- 1:10:43Speaker 6: let's see what we can do with that, and then
- 1:10:45Speaker 6: let's see what happens.
- 1:10:46Speaker 5: Afterwards, like what.
- 1:10:48Speaker 6: Can we do with them after we've broken down their
- 1:10:52Speaker 6: psyche and several of them got enhanced abilities. Their intuition
- 1:10:59Speaker 6: was locked, the psychic abilities were then opened up, like
- 1:11:02Speaker 6: it opened up this whole other world. It's just so
- 1:11:05Speaker 6: unfortunate that in order to essentially unlock these abilities you
- 1:11:11Speaker 6: have to go through really torturous conditions. But that can
- 1:11:15Speaker 6: also happen in just like everyday normal life as well,
- 1:11:18Speaker 6: Like you don't have to be a part of any
- 1:11:21Speaker 6: kind of governmental mk ultra mind fracturing program to have
- 1:11:27Speaker 6: some form of psychic abilities. I believe that we all
- 1:11:30Speaker 6: have psychic abilities, it's just if it's in the forefront
- 1:11:33Speaker 6: of our consciousness or not. So like, any kind of
- 1:11:38Speaker 6: traumatizing event that has done to you personally can and
- 1:11:42Speaker 6: probably will inevitably open up these psychic abilities within you.
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: That's why kids are probably the most susceptible to it.
- 1:11:52Speaker 6: And that's also where you get a lot of in
- 1:11:56Speaker 6: like the hairy fairy stuff, like the mystical as well,
- 1:12:00Speaker 6: because our brain actually tries to cover up that trauma,
- 1:12:04Speaker 6: and our brain can actually just make up things to
- 1:12:07Speaker 6: replace the negative stuff that we experienced. So instead of
- 1:12:12Speaker 6: you being molested whenever you were younger, or something happening
- 1:12:15Speaker 6: to you whenever you were really young, some very traumatic
- 1:12:19Speaker 6: thing and your uncle raping you in the closet or whatever.
- 1:12:22Speaker 6: Your your brain, well, then make something up to replace
- 1:12:27Speaker 6: those events with in order to cover up that trauma,
- 1:12:31Speaker 6: so it could be instead of that happening to you,
- 1:12:35Speaker 6: it could be all well, I was on a top
- 1:12:38Speaker 6: secret mission and I was a superhero, you know what
- 1:12:42Speaker 6: I mean. I was a super soldier in space, you know,
- 1:12:45Speaker 6: for fighting a least exactly.
- 1:12:49Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, I guess the personal question.
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: Do you, knowing what they were after and what they're
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: searching for, do you think that we should like that
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: we should continue that we should I don't even know
- 1:13:02Speaker 4: if this is a question, but like should we be
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: figuring this stuff out at all?
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Like if human beings.
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: Do have these latent abilities that lie within you that
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: are released with traumas, Like like, I get why these
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: people wanted to study that. That's the most fascinating thing
- 1:13:19Speaker 4: you can Right now, we're trying to make rats transgender
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: in Afghanistan or something.
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: Like cares this?
- 1:13:25Speaker 4: I understand people are people are getting hurt, and I'm
- 1:13:27Speaker 4: not advocating.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: I'm not like, I.
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: Guess molesting these rats so that they have psychic powers.
- 1:13:33Speaker 4: All right, I'm coming out as a proponent of Project
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: MK Ultra like I'm going to go into government and
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: petition them to fund it. More like, we need to
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: or at least to know what you found out. I
- 1:13:46Speaker 4: understand you did this awful thing, but it's kind of
- 1:13:48Speaker 4: like the information is just it's priceless, and it's a
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: it's a shame that we don't know. We don't really
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: know what they discovered.
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: The issue with it becomes if you adhere to the
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: idea that within these different realms or wherever you're you know, going,
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: when you're remote viewing or actual projecting, that there are
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: other things that inhabit it. This is something obviously that
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: Stranger Things plays off of, and I don't think that
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: that is the only element in that film that's inconsistent
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: with reality. I think that probably is consistent with reality.
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: I myself have been exposed to things that I don't
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: have the luxury of, you know, wondering if other things exist.
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: And so the question then becomes there seems to be
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: a connection between childhood trauma and psychic abilities there's also
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: a connection between trauma, especially childhood trauma, and demonic possession.
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: And so the question then becomes.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: Gets into Jerry morzinski territory.
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: Right, And I know, yeah, Jerry is the man. I
- 1:14:52Speaker 3: know you've spoken to him as well. I've heard that
- 1:14:55Speaker 3: we have an episode.
- 1:14:56Speaker 4: We have a running gag on this show where I'm
- 1:14:58Speaker 4: about to I'm about to produce Bengal cards. So as
- 1:15:01Speaker 4: they watch, every time David says something like I have
- 1:15:04Speaker 4: autopilo erection, or like he talks about his eye, or
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: says Jerry Marzinski, everybody either you put like a little
- 1:15:10Speaker 4: bingo card in there.
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: You just drink. At this point, they're drinking it.
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: If I say the word indicative, which is like I
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: can't so if there is a chance, there seems to
- 1:15:24Speaker 3: be a chance. And I understand the logical line of
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: thinking here. It's like, how do you know that these
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: spiritual abilities that you then derive from this traumatic experience
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: are your own abilities? Or if you've been augmented in
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: some way by something that's remaining silent but allowing whatever
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: abilities it has to be to be lent to you,
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: Like sometimes you see a film that plays off that, right, actually,
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: there's a great music video by scrill X, which a
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: lot of people would say that's an oxymoron, but either way,
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: there's a music video by Skrillx called First of the Year,
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: and in that video, it's about a pedophile who's going
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: to playgrounds and picking up kids, picks up the wrong kid,
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: and this little girl who he takes to like an
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: empty warehouse, ends up having like she's possessed in one
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: way or another. So she has a demon that comes
- 1:16:19Speaker 3: along with her and rips the guy to shreds. It's
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: a really cool song in a really cool video, But
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: she looks like she's doing telekinesis to this guy, but
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: the shadow that she's casting on the wall shows you
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: that something else is in the room with her and
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: it's actually doing it. So I think that there might
- 1:16:40Speaker 3: be a reality to that. I mean, you have looked
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: into these things a lot. You were talking before about
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: all the remote viewing, and I'm not saying that any
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: one of these these abilities isn't outside of like a
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: demonic possession. Like, I think there might be something to
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: remote viewing, but there are other things like telekinesis, knowing
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: one way or another what somebody's thinking or any of
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: these things. I mean, how do you separate those two?
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: What have you found looking into them?
- 1:17:09Speaker 6: Well, what I found is I think kind of reimagines the.
- 1:17:14Speaker 5: Entire paranormal and.
- 1:17:18Speaker 6: Spirit phenomenon because there's this remote viewing technique that was
- 1:17:26Speaker 6: taught by Ingo Swan, which was he was a part
- 1:17:28Speaker 6: of SRI International. That was some of the first people
- 1:17:31Speaker 6: that were looked into, you know, the psychic phenomenon and
- 1:17:36Speaker 6: remote viewing. And there's this advanced form of remote viewing,
- 1:17:41Speaker 6: this called perfect site integration, which is essentially by location.
- 1:17:47Speaker 6: So you get into your remote viewing state, you can
- 1:17:51Speaker 6: essentially duplicate your physical body and take that physical body
- 1:17:57Speaker 6: wherever you want it to go, like a like an
- 1:18:00Speaker 6: astral projection by location form. So then whenever you get
- 1:18:07Speaker 6: to that site that you're essentially removed, you you can
- 1:18:10Speaker 6: interact with the environment. Oh, you can move things, you
- 1:18:14Speaker 6: can knock things off walls, you can open cabinets, you
- 1:18:16Speaker 6: can open refrigerator doors.
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: That kind of makes you feel like whatever people are
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: having Poultergeist, it's really just an asshole who's remote viewing
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: and he's like, watch this shit when it knock this
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: over watching.
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: Yeah, the Poultergeist.
- 1:18:28Speaker 4: It doesn't fit with the supernatural worldview of like the
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: other side most of the time, because sometimes it's like
- 1:18:34Speaker 4: it's like this is a human being, Like like this
- 1:18:37Speaker 4: is the.
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: Motherfucker's just standing in my kitchen knocking cups off the counter.
- 1:18:40Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it really reimagines that because some of
- 1:18:43Speaker 6: those stuff might not even be like what we think
- 1:18:46Speaker 6: that it is. It might be another living human being
- 1:18:49Speaker 6: also in our dream state as well. I mean, when
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: does a lot of this type of activity normally happen.
- 1:18:58Speaker 6: It's normally synonymous with happening at night. Oh yeah, what
- 1:19:02Speaker 6: are people doing at night? They're sleeping. A majority of
- 1:19:06Speaker 6: the population is a sleep at night. So could we
- 1:19:11Speaker 6: be dreaming about a specific location that is important to us?
- 1:19:16Speaker 6: And then we've literally brought our dream consciousness into this
- 1:19:20Speaker 6: physical reality and we're able to manipulate the environment and
- 1:19:23Speaker 6: manipulate the area of like where we are. And then
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: that's what people are experiencing and they're thinking, oh, well,
- 1:19:30Speaker 6: it has to be some kind of disembodied spirit or
- 1:19:33Speaker 6: someone that's died here, and when that might not be
- 1:19:35Speaker 6: the case. And I'm not saying that that other possibility
- 1:19:38Speaker 6: isn't possible. Well, I mean, it could could very well.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: Be somebudded spirits, but a plethora of shape going on,
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: which is like we're just we think in the physical,
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: three dimensional realm, but you know, whenever it comes to
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: these other realms, they're probably just as diverse.
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: So in the way that you would hear something in
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: your attic and you go, that's either an intruder demon
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: or I have this fucking raccoon problem. Again, it was like, yeah,
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: it's pretty diverse. There could be a number of things
- 1:20:05Speaker 3: that could be. All of those things be all of
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: those things the psychic psychic rads, right, So it's interesting
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: when you traumatized him, so they have psych.
- 1:20:15Speaker 4: Some people that have these encounters that like, I don't know,
- 1:20:17Speaker 4: some surefire ways that we've we've went through, like from
- 1:20:21Speaker 4: sleep paralysis to like alien abduction. Is like saying the
- 1:20:25Speaker 4: name of Jesus Christ. A lot of people have said
- 1:20:27Speaker 4: this and that it works, and but there will be
- 1:20:31Speaker 4: cases where stuff like this doesn't work, Like if your
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: house is being haunted and then you're like, I rebuke
- 1:20:35Speaker 4: you in the name of Jesus Christ, and it's like
- 1:20:36Speaker 4: it's some guy, it's a government worker and He's like.
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: This doesn't neighbor who figured out.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: That doesn't work on him?
- 1:20:43Speaker 4: Like there's I don't know if you're familiar with the
- 1:20:45Speaker 4: story of the guy that killed Anton Levey in uh
- 1:20:49Speaker 4: he was allegedly whatever. In Tony Merkle's show The Confessionals,
- 1:20:55Speaker 4: he says that Anton is doing astral projection at him,
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: or like manifesting himself some way, and he rebuked the me.
- 1:21:02Speaker 4: He's like, that doesn't work on me because he's not
- 1:21:05Speaker 4: He's not an incorporal entity. He's a human being that
- 1:21:08Speaker 4: is doing this thing, you know what I mean. So,
- 1:21:10Speaker 4: like the rules to have to this other world are
- 1:21:13Speaker 4: just baffling, and some people, I guess, understand it more
- 1:21:17Speaker 4: than I do.
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: Well, I've been having this thing like pretty reliably now.
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: I don't like doing it because it kind of freaks
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: me out, and I really like my sleep. But you know,
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: when you're in these pseudo sleep states between you know,
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: waking and sleeping, there's some pliability in the way your
- 1:21:38Speaker 3: mind works. So very often recently I'll wake up and
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: I'll see whatever dreamscape I was in almost like kind
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: of pull away from me like a tunnel, and then
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: the quality of the image suffers, you know, tremendously. It's
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: no longer tanity. It's it's like something real bad, Like
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: it just fades to the color spectrum goes away, and
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: it's almost like I'm viewing it in negative color, like inverted.
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: And but I could still see a lot. I could
- 1:22:12Speaker 3: see a lot a lot. I could see like objects
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: and people and and and there's a lot of like
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: patterns and geometry and things like that. And I get
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: this feeling that if I wasn't retarded and I knew
- 1:22:22Speaker 3: what I was doing, that I could do something in
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: that moment. But instead, my like my logical brain kicks
- 1:22:27Speaker 3: in and there's a lot of like what's this? What
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: am I looking at? Why is this happening? And as
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: soon as that shit starts happening, it just goes away. So,
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: you know, and I don't I would hope I don't
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: have demons. I think we all can do something like that.
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: My grandmother used to write papers on remote viewing, and
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: that's interesting in hindsight, but she also considered herself like
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: a clairvoyant and also, interestingly enough, suffered from alien abduction experiences.
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: So I also think those things go hand and hit
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: and you know, whatever remote viewing is or astral projection is,
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: I would be very sure or at least unsurprised to
- 1:23:07Speaker 3: find out that the people who are doing it there's
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: also a big overlap in their sleep paralysis experiences, maybe
- 1:23:14Speaker 3: even abduction experiences, shadow people, other entities. I imagine these
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: things all played together in the same sandpit pretty often.
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: Yeah. I just had a really weird experience the other
- 1:23:29Speaker 6: night where I had a really wild, crazy dream and
- 1:23:33Speaker 6: I woke up from my dream and I kind of
- 1:23:36Speaker 6: opened my eyes and the entire reality was like nothing
- 1:23:40Speaker 6: but code. Like you've heard of people like seeing like
- 1:23:43Speaker 6: the matrix like in front of them, and this was
- 1:23:45Speaker 6: my first time ever experiencing it.
- 1:23:47Speaker 7: Screw, what was it made up of? Like if you
- 1:23:51Speaker 7: could almost.
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: See any numbers or symbols?
- 1:23:54Speaker 6: Like it was numbers, a bunch of numbers, and the
- 1:23:57Speaker 6: numbers like flashed and they were like rotating. Some of
- 1:23:59Speaker 6: them look like dates, some of them looked like coordinates. Interesting,
- 1:24:04Speaker 6: but it still had like the outline of like the
- 1:24:08Speaker 6: walls in my room were there, like but it was
- 1:24:13Speaker 6: all code.
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: What were the colors?
- 1:24:17Speaker 6: It was like blue, there were blue in the and
- 1:24:20Speaker 6: the collars were like white.
- 1:24:24Speaker 3: I had something recently where I had that experience, and it,
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: like I said, by what I was looking at that
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: was my dream almost detached and became far away from me.
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: And then it kind of tilted and I was still
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: looking at it. But everything looked like the matrix black
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: and green, except it wasn't like data. It was like
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: blackness and really really dark green sand. So everything, all
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: the highlights and the shadows, it was just you know,
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: mixtures of black and green, black and green, and that
- 1:24:57Speaker 3: was everything that I saw, and my POV was like stuck.
- 1:25:00Speaker 3: I was looking at the sidewalk, but I wasn't really
- 1:25:03Speaker 3: looking at it. I was actually viewing that behind my
- 1:25:05Speaker 3: eyes like a small window with a bunch of other
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: weird shit going on. I don't know what it is, man,
- 1:25:10Speaker 3: but I am not so inclined to think that it's
- 1:25:12Speaker 3: inherently evil. This is a this is a Christian show.
- 1:25:17Speaker 3: We tend to look at the world through the biblical
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: world lens. Obviously, there's you know, conjoining of a lot
- 1:25:23Speaker 3: of different ideas besides that when it comes to conspiracy
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: and occulted things. But sometimes I look at those practices
- 1:25:33Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm really not too sure The main
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: reason I'm not too sure is because it's very clear
- 1:25:37Speaker 3: there of a spiritual nature, and it's very clear we
- 1:25:40Speaker 3: don't have a map, and that's not good because that's
- 1:25:43Speaker 3: like going anywhere. It's like going in the woods or
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: going in the ocean and just not being familiar with
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: where the hell you are and what inhabits that realm.
- 1:25:50Speaker 3: And I do think that negative things are there, but
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: I think just like any place you know, there's gonna
- 1:25:57Speaker 3: be negative things, there's gonna be positive things, there's gonna
- 1:25:59Speaker 3: be neutral things, and it's I don't know. It feels
- 1:26:04Speaker 3: almost harrowing to me to do it because it always
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: happens at night, and I really don't like when things,
- 1:26:11Speaker 3: like the last thing I want to do is be
- 1:26:12Speaker 3: creeped out before I'm going to sleep, and that'll keep me, honestly,
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: like that alone will keep me from pursuing a lot
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: of this shit. But it does kind of seem to
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: happen almost naturally. And I'm sure there's a way through,
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: like a meditative process or a greater understanding that you
- 1:26:27Speaker 3: could have more depth of experience with that, but I'm
- 1:26:31Speaker 3: just not too sure where that depth is going to
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: take me, And what the hell is going to be
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: there when I get there.
- 1:26:37Speaker 6: I think that is really important to be able to
- 1:26:39Speaker 6: get outside of your body. I think that that I've
- 1:26:42Speaker 6: never really done it. I've come really really close. I
- 1:26:45Speaker 6: was doing some incredible breath work really late one night,
- 1:26:48Speaker 6: at like three in the morning, and I was really close.
- 1:26:50Speaker 6: It seemed like the circle open up and I had
- 1:26:52Speaker 6: like one leg through the circle. I was about to
- 1:26:55Speaker 6: just jump right out of my body. Like it was
- 1:26:57Speaker 6: the exact experience that everyone says happens, like where your
- 1:27:01Speaker 6: whole body tingles, like it started at my feet super tingly,
- 1:27:05Speaker 6: went up all my legs, and then when I hit
- 1:27:07Speaker 6: the back of my head like where the uh the
- 1:27:11Speaker 6: crown chakra is, then that's whenever I like was getting
- 1:27:15Speaker 6: ready to get out of my body.
- 1:27:16Speaker 5: It was.
- 1:27:17Speaker 6: It was crazy, dude. It was like almost and it
- 1:27:18Speaker 6: felt so warm. It almost felt like what people describe
- 1:27:21Speaker 6: as like the Kundalini energy as well, like how it
- 1:27:23Speaker 6: comes up through your body and all that. But it
- 1:27:26Speaker 6: was like me getting ready to exit my body and
- 1:27:29Speaker 6: I didn't make it. I snapped out of it and
- 1:27:31Speaker 6: it was completely gone. But I think that that is
- 1:27:33Speaker 6: really important to be able to do because I believe
- 1:27:36Speaker 6: that we're spiritual entities inside of a physical shell. Yeah,
- 1:27:40Speaker 6: and we have to have the map because if we
- 1:27:44Speaker 6: don't know what it's like outside of our body, then
- 1:27:48Speaker 6: we're going to be completely lost. Whenever this physical body dies,
- 1:27:52Speaker 6: We're not going to know where to go, what to do,
- 1:27:55Speaker 6: and we're going to be stuck.
- 1:27:58Speaker 3: That's the thing that gets me too, is like, I know,
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: you know, within like Egyptian mythology, when you die, the
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: soul has like a very elongated journey upward through like
- 1:28:07Speaker 3: celestial bodies and such that it has to go through
- 1:28:11Speaker 3: and eventually ends up in a place where their heart
- 1:28:15Speaker 3: is weighed up against a feather or something like that.
- 1:28:17Speaker 3: It's basically a way of measuring your sin how heavy
- 1:28:20Speaker 3: is your heart, but it's described as like an actual journey.
- 1:28:24Speaker 3: And then you have this other thing that people suggest
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: there's been a karmic reincarnation cycle that's been created to
- 1:28:33Speaker 3: our detriment, and that there are these things that seek
- 1:28:36Speaker 3: to loose off of us that will usher us into
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: this reincarnation cycle.
- 1:28:42Speaker 7: And I know that there are things.
- 1:28:46Speaker 3: That exist that would be pleased to inhabit your physical
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: form so that they could interact with this physical realm again.
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: And I mean this is just like the notion of possession, which,
- 1:28:58Speaker 3: by the way, going back to what we were talking
- 1:29:00Speaker 3: about before, where these actors and actresses are often subjected
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: to like really harrowing experiences and trauma. Uh the Exorcist
- 1:29:07Speaker 3: we were talking about. I believe that little girl went
- 1:29:09Speaker 3: through hell.
- 1:29:12Speaker 4: And everybody who's everyone who's played the Joker.
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: Played the Joker, right, that's another one. So my thing
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: is like, hey, look at that.
- 1:29:22Speaker 4: Hold on a second, Jack Nicholson, Oh shit, whoa And
- 1:29:27Speaker 4: that was definitely before the Shining because that movie was seventies.
- 1:29:31Speaker 6: That Batman Huh yeah, I thought it was before the Shining.
- 1:29:35Speaker 6: He played the Joker in the in the Batman movie
- 1:29:39Speaker 6: with what's his name, the most famous Batman Keaton, Michael Kington.
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you ever talked to Paul Stobs,
- 1:29:51Speaker 3: but he's a great, uh content creator. He does a
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: show called Understanding Conspiracy, and he talks about how various
- 1:30:00Speaker 3: cultures will dress up as the entity that they want
- 1:30:03Speaker 3: to be inhabited by. And he says that there are
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: you know, there's a race of giants. It would have
- 1:30:10Speaker 3: been the offspring of like fallen angels and human beings.
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: It's the namesake of the show.
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: Got to ask, is that why why do you call
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: your show Raised by Giants?
- 1:30:21Speaker 6: Yeah, so it does have some something to do with
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: the giants and the nuffhalon. But I'm also really tall.
- 1:30:27Speaker 6: I'm six five.
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: It's a very simple reason. I'm a huge guy, a
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: really big guy.
- 1:30:33Speaker 6: My whole family is really tall. So it kind of
- 1:30:36Speaker 6: seemed right. And I originally wanted it to be a
- 1:30:38Speaker 6: name of a band, but then I decided to repurpose
- 1:30:42Speaker 6: it from a.
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: Banger name for a banger name.
- 1:30:44Speaker 4: By the way, you do give very tall energy, like
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: you don't give a fuck, Like it's very tall, Like
- 1:30:49Speaker 4: he has this very like right, like we're sure. I'm
- 1:30:51Speaker 4: five eight five nine, David's like five to eight five seven.
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: We have to have this energy like it's very annoying.
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: I understand to like totally at this, like I don't
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: fucking care.
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: Owen Benjamin's the same thing with us.
- 1:31:05Speaker 4: Like when we talk to Owen, he's like six', Eight
- 1:31:08Speaker 4: so we're talking to him AND i could just tell
- 1:31:09Speaker 4: he's just. Annoyed it's just annoyed by our small presence
- 1:31:12Speaker 4: and Our go, Ahead. David i'm sorry for cutting height.
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: Supremacist so that's.
- 1:31:17Speaker 6: WHY i want to get a big truck SO i
- 1:31:18Speaker 6: can look at everybody while i'm driving AS i look
- 1:31:20Speaker 6: at them When i'm standing, There so just the top
- 1:31:22Speaker 6: of the, head.
- 1:31:24Speaker 7: It's light top to just look at look at people
- 1:31:26Speaker 7: like that all the.
- 1:31:27Speaker 4: TIME i, wonder, like, Yeah i'm SEEING i would be
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: seeing everyone else from a slightly different, angle like either
- 1:31:32Speaker 4: equal or.
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: Up it must.
- 1:31:33Speaker 3: Be it's psychologically, like, dude WHEN i step on something
- 1:31:36Speaker 3: and it makes me TOLER i, go, YEAH i feel.
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: Like that that turtle in the Fucking Doctor SEUs Boul go,
- 1:31:41Speaker 4: ahead go, Ahead. David finish because we only have a
- 1:31:43Speaker 4: couple of. Minutes we have guests coming on again at,
- 1:31:45Speaker 4: two SO i don't.
- 1:31:46Speaker 3: Even remember WHAT i was talking about it three oh,
- 1:31:49Speaker 3: oh this idea that you become inhabited by the spirit
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: that you dress. Like and so he suggests that the
- 1:31:54Speaker 3: modern day visage of the clown is actually something that
- 1:31:58Speaker 3: was created by a freeman who was running The barnum
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: And bailey or whatever circus it, was and that it
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: has to do with homage to the net film because
- 1:32:07Speaker 3: the nephilin would have had red, hair very pale, skin
- 1:32:10Speaker 3: a very red nose that and also always would have
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: because they were. Cannibals they ate human, beings blood all
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: over their faces and so large shit used.
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: To cover up their six. Toes shit like, that all.
- 1:32:23Speaker 3: Kinds of fun. Stuff and so to, me you, know
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: if you talk to, him he lays it out in
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: such a compelling way or like something. Happened the way
- 1:32:30Speaker 3: they made the clown and the way they injected it
- 1:32:32Speaker 3: Into american culture was clearly done on. Purpose and so
- 1:32:37Speaker 3: then you have to ask yourself to what? End but
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: WHEN i See Jack nicholson play that character and the
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: way he plays a character In The, SHINING i think
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: these actors and actresses at the highest levels what we
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: call method, ACTING i think is just a level of.
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: Possession not just.
- 1:32:51Speaker 4: That but like so he, plays he plays a, joker
- 1:32:54Speaker 4: and forget about what he plays on. Screen For The,
- 1:32:57Speaker 4: shining he was With brick in torturing this woman for
- 1:33:01Speaker 4: however long it took to film this fucking. Movie that
- 1:33:05Speaker 4: was like what he was doing to her was like
- 1:33:07Speaker 4: joke or.
- 1:33:07Speaker 3: Esque, yes, yes and.
- 1:33:09Speaker 6: It was a long, shoe too long. Shoot they shot
- 1:33:12Speaker 6: Them The shining for a really long, time but several
- 1:33:14Speaker 6: people throughout the entertainment industry have talked about. This Jim
- 1:33:17Speaker 6: carrey has talked about this where he felt like he
- 1:33:19Speaker 6: was possessed By Andy kaufman's. Spirit, Yes beyonce says that
- 1:33:23Speaker 6: she when she performs The sasha fears so like something
- 1:33:28Speaker 6: else comes in and takes them, over and then it
- 1:33:29Speaker 6: gives them the ability to be that. Individual and it's
- 1:33:33Speaker 6: really strange whether that's like real or way that they perceive.
- 1:33:38Speaker 6: IT i, mean it's up for. INTERPRETATION i, mean but
- 1:33:40Speaker 6: to be that good of an, actor like somebody Liked
- 1:33:43Speaker 6: Jim carrey like you gotta, BE i don't know how
- 1:33:47Speaker 6: you would get Your you would have to open yourself
- 1:33:50Speaker 6: up to that type of, thing you.
- 1:33:53Speaker 3: Know they we look at this like it's, spellcraft and
- 1:33:57Speaker 3: it's all works of like rituals and embolism and. Ceremony
- 1:34:02Speaker 3: and then you have Like, hollywood which is what The
- 1:34:04Speaker 3: druids made their wands out, of was wood from the holly.
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: Tree it just all of it kind of does like
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: why the hell does every element of, this you, know
- 1:34:16Speaker 3: performative aspect Of american culture have embedded within it something
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: to do with, SPELLCRAFT i, mean it's just at some
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: POINT i kind of, go, yeah the anecdotal evidence is piled,
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: up AND i believe. It it's now something THAT i will.
- 1:34:31Speaker 3: Espouse it's the. Truth but we are ten minutes away
- 1:34:35Speaker 3: from having to launch another. Show this has been a wonderful.
- 1:34:39Speaker 6: Conversation you guys are cutting me. Off what the?
- 1:34:41Speaker 5: Fuck not just?
- 1:34:42Speaker 6: Joking CAN i run through some of these other slides really.
- 1:34:44Speaker 3: Quick before we up? Up?
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: Yeah, dog?
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: Please.
- 1:34:48Speaker 6: Okay so this one here is like the beetle reference
- 1:34:53Speaker 6: with in The. Shining there's so many of. Them it's
- 1:34:54Speaker 6: the top panel as The Beatles Abbey road nineteen sixty,
- 1:34:57Speaker 6: nine the bottom panels The. Shining they're almost walking in
- 1:34:59Speaker 6: the Eggs Zach seam line up there With almond And
- 1:35:04Speaker 6: jack And wendy And Bill, watson which we don't really
- 1:35:08Speaker 6: talk too much About Bill watson in the movie because
- 1:35:10Speaker 6: it seems Like Bill watson In The shining is more
- 1:35:13Speaker 6: of Like Sidney gottlieb character within THE, Cia Like Sidney
- 1:35:16Speaker 6: gottlieb was known, for you, know being the head of
- 1:35:19Speaker 6: the Mk ultra, programs and what they would do essentially
- 1:35:22Speaker 6: is like the front person is All Stuart almond so
- 1:35:27Speaker 6: he's like the person that is made to look like
- 1:35:30Speaker 6: he's actually running the place when it's really Like Bill.
- 1:35:32Speaker 6: Watson it's a classic trick that a lot of people
- 1:35:36Speaker 6: have used throughout history where the person that's actually really
- 1:35:39Speaker 6: calling the shots is like the person that no one
- 1:35:41Speaker 6: thinks is actually calling the. Shots so, Yeah almond is
- 1:35:43Speaker 6: actually the front person of this entire. Operation so in
- 1:35:48Speaker 6: the Movie The Shining Stephen king in the, book it
- 1:35:53Speaker 6: was a red. Beatle and this is one of the
- 1:35:55Speaker 6: other people have pointed. Out Jay winer has pointed this
- 1:35:57Speaker 6: out on his several, movies has been pointed out a
- 1:35:59Speaker 6: room two third. Seven but it's just important to go
- 1:36:02Speaker 6: to kind of go through. It so it was a red.
- 1:36:04Speaker 6: Beatle In The shining novel By Stephen, King kubrick changed
- 1:36:07Speaker 6: the beatle to a yellow. Beatle and then Whenever allman
- 1:36:11Speaker 6: is traveling up to The Overlook hotel to check on
- 1:36:15Speaker 6: the family up, there there's a red beetle that crushed
- 1:36:17Speaker 6: underneath the semi truck on the way up. There so
- 1:36:20Speaker 6: it's definitely a nod to you, know, like, hey this
- 1:36:24Speaker 6: is this is my, Movie Stephen, king this isn't. Yours
- 1:36:27Speaker 6: and also there's The White, Beatle John Lennon's White beatle
- 1:36:30Speaker 6: that's in the background of The Abbey.
- 1:36:32Speaker 7: ROAD i like, that by the, Way, king that's, right,
- 1:36:35Speaker 7: yeah very.
- 1:36:36Speaker 6: Much and also Another beatle references was That Stephen king
- 1:36:40Speaker 6: got the inspiration the title the Novel The shining by
- 1:36:44Speaker 6: The John lennon Song Instant.
- 1:36:45Speaker 7: Karma isn't he a horrifying? Creature Stephen?
- 1:36:50Speaker 3: King my? GOD i mean you look at his nogging
- 1:36:53Speaker 3: and you go for sure there are horror stories in.
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: THERE i think it's his, mouth, really it is his.
- 1:36:58Speaker 3: Mouth he's got a bad. Mouth it's not, good.
- 1:37:02Speaker 5: Not a good.
- 1:37:03Speaker 6: Mouth Stephen king fixed that mouth bro a ton of.
- 1:37:05Speaker 6: Money he definitely looks like he got hit by every
- 1:37:07Speaker 6: branch on the way down from the Tream. Bro he's
- 1:37:09Speaker 6: an ugly looking ass. Mouthfucker. Yeah this is the catcher
- 1:37:13Speaker 6: in the ride that we mentioned. Earlier this is one
- 1:37:16Speaker 6: with the. Lampshade this tilted slightly Whenever windy And danny
- 1:37:20Speaker 6: go into the room did the bathroom to hide From
- 1:37:22Speaker 6: jack when he breaks down the, wall and then in
- 1:37:24Speaker 6: the next shot the lampshade is perfectly. Straight this is
- 1:37:27Speaker 6: the panel that we talked about. Earlier is the monarch.
- 1:37:29Speaker 6: Sign this is another one that people have pointed out,
- 1:37:32Speaker 6: before which is The hitler mustache whenever the picture fades
- 1:37:35Speaker 6: from the faraway shot to the close up. Shot this
- 1:37:38Speaker 6: was shown In room two thirty. Seven but it just
- 1:37:40Speaker 6: connects because of all the Other nazi And holocaust symbolism
- 1:37:45Speaker 6: that we've already pointed out and mk ultra throughout the.
- 1:37:48Speaker 6: Thing and here's the, swastika and that's really. It but
- 1:37:52Speaker 6: there's other ones back here THAT i didn't really get,
- 1:37:54Speaker 6: to which is the maze in the background of the establishing,
- 1:37:58Speaker 6: shot which was shot In oregon at The Timberline. Lodge
- 1:38:01Speaker 6: there's not a maze in the background of the opening establishing,
- 1:38:04Speaker 6: shop and then later on there is the maze because
- 1:38:06Speaker 6: the rest of it was filmed In england on a.
- 1:38:08Speaker 6: Set The jack's tie is in the same pattern as
- 1:38:12Speaker 6: The hedge, maze so the first time we See jack
- 1:38:15Speaker 6: And jack's tie looks almost identical to the same patterns
- 1:38:18Speaker 6: The hedge mase sticker of a dopey the dwarf disappearing
- 1:38:22Speaker 6: on the.
- 1:38:23Speaker 4: Door they have to peel off the, Wall that's What i'm, saying,
- 1:38:25Speaker 4: yeah or put it on like you're gonna peel it
- 1:38:28Speaker 4: or put it, on like there's no reason for.
- 1:38:29Speaker 6: That come, on, yeah and everything else is in the
- 1:38:32Speaker 6: exact same, location so they either they had to peel
- 1:38:35Speaker 6: it off and they only took one. Off and what
- 1:38:37Speaker 6: do you, mean? Bro this one is the whenever The
- 1:38:42Speaker 6: grady thing where they the different. Names. Uh this one
- 1:38:49Speaker 6: is interesting because it's got the cool laid on the
- 1:38:51Speaker 6: top and two years before was The Jim jones incident
- 1:38:53Speaker 6: where all the people, died so and that was happening
- 1:38:58Speaker 6: during the filming Of The. Shining this one's a weird
- 1:39:01Speaker 6: connuity air which is like a plastic set tarp can
- 1:39:04Speaker 6: be seen in the background As danny's rolling around the.
- 1:39:08Speaker 6: Hotel the, chair the infamous chair that disappears and then
- 1:39:11Speaker 6: reappears Behind, jack all in the exact same. Shot the
- 1:39:18Speaker 6: paper tray on the desk looking like he gives an
- 1:39:20Speaker 6: almond a boar whenever he goes in the shake hands
- 1:39:23Speaker 6: With jack The teddy bear in the. Background it also
- 1:39:27Speaker 6: looks like it has a heart on which is fire
- 1:39:29Speaker 6: truck which Is this is also where The windy picks
- 1:39:32Speaker 6: up the. Bat not a lot of people realize, this
- 1:39:34Speaker 6: but that's where because it's in the, Background so Whenever
- 1:39:37Speaker 6: windy gets up from With, danny she turns around.
- 1:39:40Speaker 5: And she grabs the.
- 1:39:41Speaker 6: Bat and then there's also other things that are setting
- 1:39:44Speaker 6: up for the bat. Scene earlier in the. Movie there's on.
- 1:39:47Speaker 5: The curtain right up, here on this top left quarter.
- 1:39:49Speaker 6: Panel there's a cartoon character that's holding.
- 1:39:51Speaker 7: A baseball pat it looks Like Donald.
- 1:39:53Speaker 6: Duck and down here Whenever jack before he goes to
- 1:39:57Speaker 6: look into the, maze and then the maze fades and
- 1:40:00Speaker 6: the exterior shot Of windy And danny outside in the,
- 1:40:03Speaker 6: maze there's the baseball bat on the. Couch so the
- 1:40:06Speaker 6: baseball bat goes from downstairs When jack's looking into the
- 1:40:11Speaker 6: maze to upstairs in their apartment for where she picks
- 1:40:15Speaker 6: it up and Hits jack WITH.
- 1:40:18Speaker 3: I forgot that which director said, it but it was
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: something like if there is a if there is a
- 1:40:22Speaker 3: shotgun on the wall in act, one, yeah then it's
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: going to be guaranteed that it's going to be used
- 1:40:28Speaker 3: In act. Two.
- 1:40:30Speaker 6: Yeah and also the. Knife the knife is shown in
- 1:40:35Speaker 6: the previous set up When hollerin is giving them a
- 1:40:38Speaker 6: tour of the you see the, knife and that knife
- 1:40:40Speaker 6: is the knife that she's running around with at the
- 1:40:42Speaker 6: end of the movie through the. Hotel this one's. Interesting
- 1:40:45Speaker 6: this one's a door that was closed Whenever danny seems
- 1:40:49Speaker 6: sees room two thirty, seven and then in the next
- 1:40:52Speaker 6: shot it's. Open this is a carpet switching. Patterns there's
- 1:40:57Speaker 6: been so much contention over. This people say that this
- 1:41:01Speaker 6: just moved him over one, square BUT i, mean that
- 1:41:05Speaker 6: could be possible, that but why would you not put
- 1:41:08Speaker 6: him in the exact same location as you were were?
- 1:41:11Speaker 6: Before because this is the first shot and it's got
- 1:41:13Speaker 6: the open facing hexagonal carpet.
- 1:41:15Speaker 5: Pattern but then whenever it.
- 1:41:17Speaker 6: Switches, around it's got the closes facing hexagonal carpet.
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: Pattern i've heard that they used that sort of a
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: plot device to to show you that like shit's about
- 1:41:28Speaker 3: to pop.
- 1:41:28Speaker 7: Off so typically what they'll do is they'll.
- 1:41:30Speaker 3: Wind a frame upside down and when it becomes, inverted
- 1:41:34Speaker 3: that's gonna you, know it's time for things to get.
- 1:41:36Speaker 3: CRAZY i WOULD i would interpret this almost as as
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: one of those things WHERE i would wonder if before
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: this it wasn't too, crazy and then right after, this
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: something really horrifying happens in the.
- 1:41:45Speaker 6: Film but the thing is is all the cars are
- 1:41:48Speaker 6: all set.
- 1:41:49Speaker 3: Up, yes, no, No I'm i'm saying that would be
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: it would be done on, purpose and you're, right, like,
- 1:41:54Speaker 3: yeah this is definitely intentionally to jar. You it's, yes,
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: yeah this is on, purpose like shell shock.
- 1:42:01Speaker 6: Somebody this is The Teddy bear set up for earlier
- 1:42:05Speaker 6: in the. Film H this Is Tang tang in the
- 1:42:11Speaker 6: the in the. Background it's next to the kool aid as.
- 1:42:13Speaker 6: Well And tang was a really big drink for the
- 1:42:16Speaker 6: astronauts and all The apollo programs are basically Blue tang
- 1:42:20Speaker 6: into the stratosphere made it a very popular drink that everyone.
- 1:42:24Speaker 6: Wanted room two thirty seven d anywhere in The apollo loving,
- 1:42:28Speaker 6: sure going in the room two thirty. Seven and we
- 1:42:29Speaker 6: all know that there's a toy story. Reference there's the
- 1:42:33Speaker 6: TVs THAT i was referring to earlier that don't have
- 1:42:37Speaker 6: any kind of power source to. Them they're just playing
- 1:42:42Speaker 6: without being plugged into.
- 1:42:43Speaker 3: Anything this one's like in the middle of. It it's
- 1:42:45Speaker 3: not even near a wall for an. Outlet it's just
- 1:42:47Speaker 3: in the middle of the.
- 1:42:47Speaker 6: Floor, yeah and, uh that's, uh this is the one
- 1:42:52Speaker 6: THAT i showed. Earlier and then we're back to The.
- 1:42:53Speaker 6: Beatles so, yeah that. Was that's just a little quick presentation,
- 1:42:58Speaker 6: there and that's some of. Them there's other ones THAT
- 1:43:01Speaker 6: i didn't even. Add there's even one.
- 1:43:04Speaker 5: For a clockwork.
- 1:43:06Speaker 6: Orange it's probably important to also show if we have enough,
- 1:43:10Speaker 6: time it's just, one just one little and then the
- 1:43:15Speaker 6: people are aware of this. Too but in a clockwork,
- 1:43:17Speaker 6: orange there's a word above here this as A drm.
- 1:43:23Speaker 5: Chrome.
- 1:43:24Speaker 3: Yeah, Here i'm gonna bring that up real. Quick people
- 1:43:26Speaker 3: can see, that, yep you could see his head is blocking.
- 1:43:29Speaker 3: It but if you fill in the, blanks it's one
- 1:43:32Speaker 3: of the earlier cultural mentions of a drenochrome, yep which
- 1:43:37Speaker 3: you know right there mk ultra and that goes all
- 1:43:40Speaker 3: the way back to The nazis and stretches all the
- 1:43:42Speaker 3: way to modern day where, this you, know enigma of
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: adrenochrome still still eludes.
- 1:43:51Speaker 5: Us.
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- 1:44:21Speaker 6: CONVERSATION i had a lot of. Fun let's do it again.
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